The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #335 - Greg Proops

Episode Date: November 24, 2015

Greg Proops, Comedian who's Album, "In The Ball Park" will be released on Friday November 27th, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio This podcast is brought to you by: Texture. Go To texture.c...om/joey to get a free trial for the Texture App. The Texture App gives the use access to hundreds of magazines. Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout.   HITecigs.com For a better tasting, longer lasting e cig go to HITecigs.com. Use Promo code joeyschurch for five Hit E Cig's for $50   Naileditlife.com - Get 20% off a vapor pen by using code word joeydiaz. They are also produce some of the best edibles on the market, Los Gummies Hermanos   Recorded live on 11/23/2015.
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Starting point is 00:02:07 I never really owned an album, but I think they're groovy. I love that screechy sound, man. I love that fucking album. That's the death album. Great Proops, what's happening, brother? Everything, baby. You come bearing gifts like the Three Wiseman, the new album in the ballpark on vinyl. Greg Proops.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Dig it. And he also brought a new book in, the smartest book in the world, authored by The Smartest Man in the World podcast. You know how we do it here? Always give him plugs, whatever we can do. What's up, my brother? Well, I've been busy in the Proops Orchard, obviously. And everything's orange-oriented, if you notice it.
Starting point is 00:02:42 This is my favorite part of the record. Not the material or having worked on it or anything like that. Oh, shit! It's the orange vinyl. So it's in that awesome 50s bowling ball motif. Oh, wait, let me switch. Fucking tremendous. Fucking tremendous.
Starting point is 00:02:59 That's a genius idea. Yeah, Ryan and Matt, who work with Jimmy Pardo and Doug Benson, we all worked together. We've made several records together, and they do the podcast and everything. And so we were saying, yeah, let's do a, when we do the album, let's actually do an album version of the album, because you can download it, of course, like everyone will,
Starting point is 00:03:16 like I already have. But if you want to spin, we thought, let's do a groovy album cover, I mean, a groovy record that's got texture and everything, and a groovy album cover. My wife took the picture, my buddy Jeff, our friend Jeff, Marcus John, did the album cover. So it was a family affair.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Now, you really believe in vinyl. Correct? You're a big vinyl advocate, or you just did this for this album? As you can tell, Joe, I move with the times because the interweb is in my blood, as you know. I'm like Tron. I will fight a gigabyte in a hallway or whatever Tron did. On the other case, I'm old-fashioned, and I love books and records. And I think books and records are the real deal.
Starting point is 00:03:58 The tactile function of it, the putting a record on to spin it, they're picking up a book, to putting a marker in it, putting it down. You know, it's a whole groovy experience. I really think when they stopped doing albums, they took a big part of music out for me. Yeah. Like, I never got used to getting a CD opening it up and just putting the CD in. I never got used to it. The thrill was completely gone with me.
Starting point is 00:04:21 The whole thing about going, getting the album, walking home, that fucking excitement of walking home. Ripping the plastic off. Ripping the plastic, putting it on. You know, if you were lucky enough, you went to your buddies who had a garage and you rolled a joint, you opened the album covering. You roll the joint and you pass the album cover around and look how good it looks or look how cool the guitar whatever It was this big it's like somebody once told me that in this country Way before I got here from Cube I don't remember that buying selling a car was completely different Yeah that they would put the car in the showroom with a blanket on top of it cover and you walk past every day going
Starting point is 00:05:00 When are they going to pull that thing up and then on that Saturday they pulled it out and they had like a mini circus and hot dogs Oh, yeah. And they'd pull the cover off and people would make offers. And, you know, they took all that, that excitement. For me, that was the, Eddie Bravo, one night, I was high doing a show with Rogan. And Rogan was on stage. And Eddie Bravo told me a story about everybody in this hayball, and anybody could relate to this story, that everybody in this neighborhood hated kiss.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So when the new kiss album came out, he had to walk at home and back out. Right, right. And jump fences and bring it. And his brother hated kids. He had to bring the album. Put in his headphones. Yeah, I was under the fucking bed. And then, you know, when everybody was asleep, he'd take it out and with the flashlight.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And when he told me, I said, I go, you know, that's a one-man show. Yeah. It is. It is a one-man show. It's at least a novella. Yeah, that is a one-man show, man. You could do an hour on that. So what was different with the CDs for you?
Starting point is 00:05:58 That you get nothing. I got fucking music. I get fucking music. You know, I buy a CD about a, a, a, Let's say I'm a Batman freak. And I buy a CD about a film. Yeah, they had the extras that I could look at and the interviews and shit like that. But there was something about reading.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Something about reading. Okay? And then with music, the same thing. Listen, did you just not hear the process? The process started when you went to get it and then you'd walk home. And if you had to take a bus, Lee, it's like if I told you, I'm going to suck your dick when you get to the house. And now you get in the bus and there's traffic. What the fact?
Starting point is 00:06:39 That's the excitement. It was an exciting thing. Now, and this is the time. Now you go to iTunes or whatever payloads. Boom, Flynn, and they send you a thing and you don't read. There's no story. There's no note to the consumer. Also, look what he did.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Oh, look. The coupon entitles you do a free download of this record in digital formats. If you buy the album, you can download it anyway. And like that. So there you are. Just a little note. This is, this to me. means the world.
Starting point is 00:07:08 This to me means that every time you release something, I'm going to buy it. Good, bad, whatever the fuck. Because you took the time. This is what they're not doing anymore. Your music is great. I'll give you the $10 for the fucking album.
Starting point is 00:07:26 But do me a favor. Put a little Vaseline around. Exactly. Give me a picture of the band. Give me something. Van Halen, Worse album ever. Van Halen 3. At least they gave you a poster
Starting point is 00:07:37 of Andy, whatever, the singer handcuffed to a wall. I ripped that up 80 times. But at least they fucking gave you something. I buy something today and I feel like I just got fucked. When I buy a CD, I'm excited. Unless I spend $60 for
Starting point is 00:07:53 the Bruce Springsteen CD collection. And they'll rip you off every fucking ear. Remastered the lost tapes. Listen, they're lost for a fucking reason. Okay? You have a bad set at the Ice House. They give you a tape on the way. You take that motherfucker, you put in your glove compartment, you hope the sun melts it, okay?
Starting point is 00:08:10 All of a sudden you die and some jerkhole says, look what I found. A mask. And now you got all this bad material out there after you're dead, and the kids are like, he was sucked. They fucking did that to Bill Hicks. They released every fucking thing he did, you know, while he was working on whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Right, when you're not ready to have it prepared. You're not ready to fucking do that stuff. So I always wondered that, because I never met him, Patrice O'Neill, they're releasing another album that he did. And I was like, why wouldn't he? have released it back then. Because somebody found it, you know, somebody gave it, maybe it, maybe the profits go
Starting point is 00:08:42 to diabetes or something like that. It's probably to his family, but it's not even just him. It's always, it always struck me as odd that they would re-release something where you think if they, if the people wanted it released, it would have been released. Okay. Right now, uh, the Beatles re-release. Yeah, what is that? Tell me what that is.
Starting point is 00:09:04 No, no, no, no. I'm just, I don't. I don't even know it is. I'm just saying to you... I see posters for it everywhere. The Beatles re-release Sergeant Pepper. Yeah. And they had two songs,
Starting point is 00:09:13 a new song. I don't think they have any new songs. Ringo and whatever. Let's say they got together and sang fucking jingle bells. Yeah. I don't give a fuck. And just did a little interview 20 years later.
Starting point is 00:09:25 You know what? If they said the money was going to some charity or percentage... Oh, yeah. I'd buy the fucking out. You know, that's the type of guy. I buy the album. You know how many times I bought Sergeant Pepper's? 80 fucking nine.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I'd buy it again, you know, but sometimes they just put out these lost tapes. John Lennon, that fucking Yoko, that fucking Yoko will steal a fucking, you know, she started putting out garbage, and that's not what he wanted out. Nobody wants their
Starting point is 00:09:52 car, Tupac, oh, Tupac! How many fucking arms and that poor bastard put out of him? You know he didn't want those chocks. Or he would have wanted to work on them more. Well, you know, they do it with authors, too. Jack London died and left a book, and I'm not kidding. Two or three authors came in and finished the book and put it out.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I think that one's Assassination Bureau Limited. But, I mean, he was a famous author at the time. And, like, you know, like Mark Twain's biography just got published the last couple of years, and it's this big. And he wrote into his well, this isn't to be printed until 100 years after I die. And that's when they put it out. They finally put it out. And, like, I don't even know that he really wanted it out ever.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Because it's him being awful about all those contemporaries. You know, it's this giant journal, basically. of a life, you know? It's a thousand zillion pages. And so people Kirk Cobain, his poetry after he died, remember there was a big controversy. Should they release that notebook that had all the doodles in it and shit? Now that's your
Starting point is 00:10:46 fucking notebook. That's not a polished piece of art that you make, that you finish, that you fucking edit, that you put stuff on to. It's thoughts. It's random. I know everybody wants to see the process, so I understand the impetus and the urge to want to see everything an artist did.
Starting point is 00:11:02 But by the same token, like, I remember a friend of mine had a Jimmy Hendricks album that was like, just the worst fucking noodling on stage in London that some other guy put out and went like Hendricks is on this. And it doesn't make you like Hendrix more makes you think, well, he did this gig with this guy. And, you know, it's just shitty.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And you're like, it was totally being sold under that. And, you know, like Jimmy Hendrix with so-and-so. And you're like, blef, he didn't want that record. No. He wanted to fucking, of all artists, you know, honing, refining, refining, we're exploring, making it better, making it different, not just here's some shit I thought of in the fucking car
Starting point is 00:11:38 on the way over. No, I know, like Pink Floyd, used songs that were left over from some album for another album that were really good. You know, I could see that, maybe you tap me. I could see a guy leaving 10 songs and one of them being spectacular.
Starting point is 00:11:55 The stones, I think, have dozens of songs, but I think they've been, you know, picky about which ones they put out. They don't put out, like, everything they record it. The Beatles, I think, were down to the limit. I don't think there's any tracks kicking around that aren't just an extra track. You know, the song we know that's been sung over again. They kind of put out everything they did.
Starting point is 00:12:13 But it also speaks to what they wanted to do, right? They did put out. Maybe there's one album of oddities and verities they never put out, you know, when they were banned. But, like, they put out. They worked on their shit, and they fucking put out, here's 11 songs, man. The 70s were brutal for Beatle fans. They made you hate the fucking Beatles. Like I like the Beatles, but the Beatle fans were brutal in the mid-70s.
Starting point is 00:12:36 What happened in the 70s? In the 70s, the Beatles broke up 71 maybe. Yeah, right 70? So in 75, you were finding yourself having arguments. You know, that's why in a way it was a relief when John Lennon got shot because he can't say a fucking word, God. I'm sick and tired of you talking about this shit. They're not getting back together. You know, it was like you always got into a fucking argument about the beat.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I came from a heavy-duty music neighbor where every day, somebody disagree with you on something you know and and like i've told a bunch of my friends you could insult me to the end you know when i get wired up when we talk about music yeah like if you start fucking getting me fired up my music i get fired up and i don't know how many beetle arguments got in that neighborhood you know like aero smith album is great right you know let's just say in 75 they release rocks okay you know and you bring your uh eight track or your cassette player to the basketball court and you put in rocks. There was always some jerk off that said,
Starting point is 00:13:34 take that off and put on, you know, rubber sole. And you're like, fuck it, we'll listen to the rocks. Man, Errol Smith is great, but they're not the Beatles. You know, but wait until the Beatles get back together. All this shit's going to end. None of this shit's going to end. And they got so fucking annoying. They got so fucking annoying.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And every year, like, oh, there's a rumor they're getting back together. And no, I just talked to Yoko. Everybody just talked to fucking Yoko and Paul and her don't still get along. It was crazy. The beating the Beatles left on this country was a phenomenal beating that people do not know today. And guys that are my age and Mr. Proops, they know. You know, from 60-something to 70, he was dead.
Starting point is 00:14:15 They were playing a trick on America that Paul was fucking dead. Can you imagine that? Wait, what? They were playing a trick on America that Paul was dead. Paul McCartney? Yeah, during magical mystery tour. Doing magical mystery tour, and there was one other album he walked with. Where was he?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Abbey Road. He was barefoot walking across the road. He was walking and when they put you in a casket, your barefoot, they played a fucking, they, listen, there's people in therapy right now because of the Beatles. Yeah, at the end of, what is it, strawberry fields? Strawberry field. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes, I buried Paul. Yeah, Paul is dead. At the very end, it goes, Aubrey Paul, like that.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And you're supposed to discern that that meant Paul was dead. And then there is one that where they go, Paul is dead. Paul is dead. It was crazy. If you look at, uh, sorry, 28F is on one of the license plate. If you look at the thing, there's a thing with Paul, a flower arrangement, and it has pee in it. Oh, Sergeant Pepper, yeah. Sergeant Pepper.
Starting point is 00:15:06 These motherfuckers did a number on this country. Jesus Christ. Elton John came along and softened it up. The fucking magical, whatever, not magical mystery talk. Goodbye yellow brick road and shit. And then they broke up. So now all these morons in this country were held without there. That's it.
Starting point is 00:15:23 They broke up. They were fucking people. They were confused. You know, look at the tapes when they first hit Kennedy Airport. And they got out. Kids crying. I don't fucking cry. You cry.
Starting point is 00:15:33 People were crying and shit. So they made an emotional beat. And then all of a sudden, in the middle of they getting back together, getting back together, they shoot. They never said that. But they kept coming up every six months. They weren't saying shit. They hated each other. They weren't speaking.
Starting point is 00:15:46 They weren't even talking. They could give a Frenchman's fuck. Did you see that show that came on two weeks ago about how much money they had and what really went on with the... Oh, no. How she cut the kid out of the will and the fucking, because she gave all the... the money to Sean and that's the really the son had to take it a court oh Julian yeah they're worth
Starting point is 00:16:03 billions oh yeah they have to be billions he just did something oh no no no no no no no no the money you know where they made their biggest money the Beatles you ready they bought Apple they had a company called Apple yeah of course oh when they sold it to Apple and when they sold it to Apple 500 million or something like that
Starting point is 00:16:22 a fucking he stole their logo yeah the green apple the green apple which is a McGreet painting and there was a art dealer in London named Groovy Bob who was a gay and had been in the army with Ediamine when he was a colonial troop, right? He said he claims to have had sex with Ediamine. He's quite dead now, but he was a
Starting point is 00:16:38 drugged up art dealer in London. And all the rock stars hung out with him because he was that guy. You can look him up online and he's got the shades and whatnot. What's his name? Golly. Just look up Groovy Bob and see if we can find it from there. I'm blanking on his last name. My wife's going to kill me. And anyways, he was in art dealer
Starting point is 00:16:55 and he was trying to get the Beatles and the Stones to buy paintings. And he came in with the McGree painting and left it on Paul McCartney's kitchen table. And it's a picture, and you can look that up too if you want, McGreet of a clerk with a bowler hat on, but a giant green apple in front of his face. And so Paul, they've been talking about, what are we going to call a company? We need a name for the Beatles.
Starting point is 00:17:16 We can't call it the Beatles. We won't name for the company because we're going to do all these movies and groups and whatnot. Oh, there he is. There he is. What's his name? Groovy Bob. I just search Groovy Bob.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Look at all that. Yeah, he's a peacock, baby. Yeah, he's got three ties on. This guy's the real fucking. There's a picture of him and Mick Jagger in the back of a car being arrested, and they've got their hands up. And so he left that and... Debra Fraser.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And his father was a big wig with, like, the Bank of England. He was from a really wealthy, connected family, but he was an art dealer and a bohemian, like, you know, crazy. So there's a book about him called Groovy Bob, if you ever want to read that. And it explains in the book how he left the painting for Paul. And Paul and Paul showed it to the boys. And they went, fucking perfect. Apple.
Starting point is 00:18:03 We're going to call it Apple. Because the green apple was such a... Here, look up Magritte, M-A-G-R-I-T-E, and Apple. Thank you, Lee. I didn't mean to order you to do that. That's crazy. If you would please do that. And I didn't mean to, you know, say, like, there's a lot of Beatle fans.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Because I'm a lot of fan. There it is. I became a bigger fan of them, like, after the 80s. I don't know what. Oh, yeah. I don't know what. They kind of growing you're like Sinatra. There can be times you're like, I don't want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Well, I didn't like the early ones. I like the smoke pot. Me too, me too. All that acid shit is tremendous. Which one is the right one? It should be a, see the one with the apple in front of his face? Yeah. That's the one he left on Paul's table.
Starting point is 00:18:44 What is this one? That one, the one on the left there. I believe. Fucking tremendous. And so they always use that green apple and apple uses a big green apple. He's a Belgian painter. Where were you when John London got shot? I was doing the play, you're not going to believe this one, I was doing the play Equus at San Francisco State.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I was 20, and there's a nude scene in it. Equis is the one where the kid is obsessed with horses, and he's being deprogrammed by a psychiatrist, right? The psychiatrist is having a midlife crisis at the same time he's deprogramming this kid. The kid's gone crazy and blinded a bunch of horses, and no one can figure out why he's done this. And so the play kind of, they psychoanalyze the kid, and that's the whole play is the kid flashing. back to his world. So he gets a job as a groom and he doesn't have no friends or anything. And he takes the horses out at night, naked, and rides them until he blasts off, right? And that's a scene in the play. And he doesn't have sex with the horses. He rides on top of the
Starting point is 00:19:45 horses and does like autoerotic, you know, puts a fucking bit in his mouth. And right? So it's kinky. Now who played this kid? I played the fucking kid. It was 1980, man. So I was skinny. And You had to get naked in the second act because he reenacts the being in the stable. So the actors are wearing giant fucking like, you know, theatrical holding horse heads, right? Like these, so they're looming and it's very Greek tragedy, right? So they're not realistic and you're in this stable at the end and the kid loses his shit. He's going to have sex with a girl, but the horses are all there that he rides on every night and he can't fucking deal. Because he has no sexual relationship with women, but he does have one with the fucking horses, right?
Starting point is 00:20:24 so he freaks out and threatens her and she splits and then he blinds the horses right and then at the end he gets cured and the whole point of the play is because it's written by a British man and stuffing your emotions is very important while he's curing the kid as the play goes on he keeps talking to the audience and to his best friend and saying you know I had a dream last night I was a doctor and it was ancient Greece and I was performing sacrifices and the mask started slipping and you know Like he starts to have the fucking God complex freak out of. The kid is a wild thing, right? The kid's a wild thing.
Starting point is 00:21:01 He committed this awful act, but he's emotional and he feels and he's insane. And he knows if he cures him, he's just going to become another fucking person that rides around and buys a washing machine and fucking watch his TV, right? Like he doesn't want to do it. The trick of the play is that he does it because he has to. He's a doctor. But at the same time, he's like, so at the end he goes, there's a bit in my mouth, a sharp bit in my mouth, and it never comes out.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Like, the onus of taking insane people and turning them into people who have jobs is bumming him out. It was very 60s. Crazy. Yeah, right? So I was doing that play. It was intermission. So the second act, you have to get naked. And I come out at intermission.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It was at San Francisco State. And I walked in the hallway. And someone goes, they shot John Lennon. It was that time of night in New York when it happened. And I was like, you're fucking kidding me. I just went, no. It was eight by you. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I went, no. No. I just said no. It didn't happen. And then we went back and finished the play. And being the selfish 20-year-old actor that I was at the time, it was a complete blow to the fucking solar plexus. You know, the news, like, because, you know, we grew up with him and since I was like five years old. You know, I remember watching them.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I had seldom. My sister and fucking, you know, the Beatles cartoon and the whole enchilada. I thought, oh, I'll use it. Right. On stage. Use how upset, you know, I was like, oh, no, you know, like I wanted to denial, and then now I have to get naked and kill a fucking horse or whatever on stage. You know, describe to the youth of America how fucked up people were that week when John Lennon got shit.
Starting point is 00:22:40 It was quiet. And the next day that everyone was in a malaise, and I was at the dorms at 7th,000 college. And, of course, we'd all grown up with him. So all day long, the radio's playing him. Oh. Everybody. And then the newspaper, the San Francisco Chronicle did a complete, like, a whole fucking, the front page, a whole front section. And then a photo montage, which I remember really liking at the back of all of the different periods, the white suit with the beard.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And then during Watergate, John went to the Watergate hearings, and he'd shaved his head. And he was wearing little round fucking shades. And that picture's so bitching. He's like at the Watergate hearings with fucking shaved head. It's crazy we even have to ask this, but like... Sorry, Joe. This was before internet. This was before cell phones.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Obviously, it was on Monday night football. But how did it get around? Were you guys calling people? Television and the radio. But not everybody's. Are you guys calling people on house phones? Like, did you hear? Because when I was a teenager, that's when the internet started.
Starting point is 00:23:38 So I didn't really have that, like, calling people for that sort of stuff. So how did the news? I mean, I know most of it was TV, but. I went out on Monday night, and I used to, it was when I was, I did acid. And I went out and nobody else wanted to apply. Nobody else wanted to play on a Monday night, you know? It was like December or something. And it was the same week, I was, my mom had died.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I was living with a family that I had grown up with. And I was working at a, like I was doing fine. I was 16, 17. I was just about to turn 17. I'm doing fine. And I'm working. I got everything together. School is great.
Starting point is 00:24:15 You know, I'm grieving in my own way. That's why I'm grieving because the pain kicked that off. Like it was like, and I went home. And the guy, Jimmy Bender, who was great, he's up, the father. And he's like, well, you do, let's watch the game. He doesn't know I'm tripping my bulls up. And he keeps saying, you want to salami sandwich? And I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:35 What do you mean you're not hungry? He always hungry at this time. But I know I got tuned up. So, also they just, CoSalle came on. You could find it on YouTube. It'd be fucking interesting to listen to. CoSelle came on. And he said this.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And at the time, I was a little jay. with the Beatles. Right. Like I didn't know what to fucking think. And then the next day, and I was living in Northern New Jersey. And I had, I was working at the lumber yard. And I went to mail my job every day.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It was when I got there was to take a box of billing or mail and send, put it in the post office. I go to mail the letters and a couple letters fall out on the snow. And when I go to pick one up, I hit, so I clip the letter. You can finish the story. I clipped the letter, and it's two credit cards with checks. And I'm a little criminal letter.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I don't know what to do, you know. And I tell my friend, I got these checks. And he goes, go see my brother. My brother runs the bank right by the house. Work something else. So I met him. I gave him the checks. He goes, I don't know if I can make it work.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Give me a few days. He called me two days later. He told me to meet him out of pizza. He called me the night after this. So this night, I went home, gave him the checks. We met. And he called me the next day. He goes, meet me the next night at the pizza place, and I'll give you your money.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And I remember taking that money and going into Manhattan on Friday, like just cut in school with a bunch of guys and being fucking blown away. Like New York City, like they were planning the Sunday. They were going to do the minute of silence. New York City was all in. Like, he lived in New York City. He walked around this fucking park every day, you know? He was fucking New York City for a while.
Starting point is 00:26:20 He was Tony fucking soprano. Without a gun this guy walked through Central Park and nobody bothered the fucking guy with his wife He got orange juice or something they said play and it was just New York City was fucking wounded I mean it was like a a pre 9-11. It was like a baby 9-11 and then I went over that Sunday I don't care what's on the line Howard look who it is Lee The Patriots know in the boot yes we have to say it remember this is just a football game That's what they were Boston Who wins or loses and unspeakable?
Starting point is 00:26:51 tragedy confirmed to us by ABC News in New York City. John Lennon, outside of his apartment building on the west side of New York City, the most famous perhaps of all of the Beatles. Shot twice in the back, rushed to Roosevelt Hospital dead on arrival. Hard to go back to the game. Right there, you were in shock. You were in shock. You were as a kid, a 16-year-old kid, that put me over to fuck.
Starting point is 00:27:21 and top. I was like, Jesus. Then I went to school the next day. I'll tell you how raw they were in my high school. There was a portion of the Beatles by the gym. Somebody had already put an ex on John Lennel. I was like, God damn it. But it destroyed this country for about
Starting point is 00:27:39 10 days late. And it was right before the holidays, so people... Yeah, it was Christmas. And he just had a hit record. Oh, shit. He just had a hit record out about, what, three weeks before? Three weeks before that, so they kept playing. and playing. Then they started playing and so this is Christmas, which
Starting point is 00:27:55 I break down every year as soon as they. That's when I know it's over. As soon as you hear that song, listen, it's over. Start playing in 2016. You know, he had a big hit with starting over, which was on the radio all the time. And everybody was he was about to come back. He was doing
Starting point is 00:28:11 interviews and talking to people again. And he'd spent about five years hanging around New York. That's it. Why are you so emotional, Joey? Because it was such a piece of my youth There's nothing worse than when you don't think something's going to affect you that affects you. I was a Beatle fan, but not really. But at the time, I was going through this shit inside, and all of a sudden, this fucking guy dies. He just wasn't just some regular fucking mutt.
Starting point is 00:28:38 This guy, you grew up on this fucking guy. And he was 40. You know, you had to figure 35 to 40 more years of music and him. And he would have changed. He probably would have written more books and I think become more of a world. You know, now there's a position for people like that. He kind of pioneered that. And like now there's Angelina Jolie's and people who are in show business who run around the world and are, you know, crusaders and activists.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I mean, there always was. But he was a particular one because not that many rock stars had really done that. He's like the first rock star that said women are equal and there's too much racism and war is bad and just kind of simple elemental things that got kind of watched. Do you come off as genuine or because now sometimes when I see that, I'm like they're just doing. that for the screen time? I don't think he was doing it for the screen time. I think he was a real artist, and I think that at the end of the day, when they finished the Beatles,
Starting point is 00:29:30 part of the reason why he didn't want to deal with them was like, he didn't love what they'd become like a pop machine. In his view, I think he was required to make records, and he wasn't grieving on that. So when he was able to do his own albums, the difference in content, obviously, between what he writes when he's in the Beatles and then when he writes on his own, all of a sudden, you know, Now he's writing about mother and drugs and women and, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:55 way more heavy primal stuff than the Beatles dealt with. Shaved fish, is that the end? Yeah, shaved fish. It's fucking brilliant. It's wild, right? He did something else. If you want to, can you play Beatles music or do you, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:08 There's one of John Munner, it's called Mind Games, and it's him walking around Central Park if you want to see the video. It's just him walking around the park and park. With the kid, right? One of the kids, yeah. We played it before. And people are like, you know, and he's having a cigarette and he's jumping around and goofing for people and signing an autographs. And you're like, this is what he did.
Starting point is 00:30:27 He wasn't hiding. People always say like Garbo was reclusive and hid. Garbo went to the department store and ate lunch every day and shopped. You could see her on the street. Like, there were always pictures of her. And Lennon didn't hide in New York. Rick Overton told me the story about meeting him in a health food store. Fucking Steve Pearl met him.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah. Steve Pearl said he went up to him. So let me ask you a question. One of the monkeys getting back to him. That made him laugh. Yeah, that made him laugh. Because people would go up to him and say, When the Beatles get back together.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Every minute they said it. I couldn't fucking imagine him. What are you getting back? Look at him. Yeah, there is walking. It's fucking beautiful. They shot it like right near his house. And I've always said, like people said,
Starting point is 00:31:06 but would you ever live in New York? And I go, there's only one way I would move to New York. In fact, I could live like John Leonard. That's it. The Dakota, go downstairs, fresh squeezed orange juice, smoke a joint in the park. Right. That's as good as it gets.
Starting point is 00:31:20 that's he looks so cool shit shit and he left the butler at the house a bunch of kids and that's you know obviously none of this is staged he just walked through the park
Starting point is 00:31:33 and they filmed him that day well it's as staged as anything I suppose but listen man I'm old-fashioned about one thing and I've said it once I've said it a thousand times when New York sneezes everybody else catches a cold and he was
Starting point is 00:31:48 the king of New York Which meant he was the king of this fucking savage. Look at him. They're just following him. Yeah. Fuck Joe Namath. Fuck Willis Reed. Fuck the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Look at him. A white dude without a bodyguard. What? Yeah, right. There's nobody. We'd never do this. Yeah, like he's cool. And obviously, being amusing for everybody and, you know, not pushed.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Some cheap tricks here. Oh, look at that Italian ice. Yeah, right. the Italian ice, the old time stand? Marinos, look at that, that's the real deal. Could you imagine if John Lennon made you Italian ice? You would never forget it. Right?
Starting point is 00:32:32 These kids are probably all like, remember the time we said John Lennon? Remember the time we were in his video? Look at those pretzels. Those are real pollution pretzels. Was that Central Park Zoo? That's what my wife was talking about today. She's like, why we'll go to Central Park Zoo? I go, that's in there, John.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It's always good fun. But I love, you know, like this is a pretty heady song about, you know, talking about transporting yourself through space and through time and all that. And yet the video is so hilariously. What year is this? Do you want to keep one thing? Seventy-two? Seventy-three? When is this?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Jesus Christ. Now, there's rumors that he wrote fame for David Bowie. Right. And then Elton John... Right. And then he found... Elton John found out about it. He said, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:33:27 You're writing songs for... You're back out of retirement in the summer? Just give me a couple days. And he came back with Benny and the Jets. Is that a true story? Well, they did whatever gets you through the night. I know that one. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And then he made him perform. He said, if the song goes to number one, you have to come and play with it live with me. And John was like, it's not going to number one. Of course I'll do it. And of course, it went to number one. So there's a video of them doing it live together. The idea was driving. I got to be honest with people.
Starting point is 00:33:49 You know, I let you motherfuckers know how this. I'm driving my own fucking business. I got serious on, you know me. I got to say, my wife got serious in the car. And fucking don't let the son go down. Right. I came up by Elton John. Guys, I had it below.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Yeah. I had a fucking pull over. It sucked the fucking energy out of my lungs. You know, I'm really fortunate. Mr. Proops is real fortunate that we lived in a country at one time without ISIS. You know, we just had Puerto Ricans. And a couple of Q, you know, they're mad at these, you know, people don't remember is that in 1980, 125,000 Cubans came into the country.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Of course. And 120 of them with drug dealers. Nobody remembers that. They didn't give a fuck with it. The other 5,000 were. kids. You know, Castro let out 75,000 out of the prisons. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Out of a buck 25. Oh, they have buck 25 on paper. It was about 200,000. Half of those people were in prison that came. But, you know, but we had this fucking music. I grew up with this goddamn music. I have that. I have into the
Starting point is 00:34:54 sun or don't let the... You know, think of being driving down your street and in a row. These are the music, this is the music that's out. Benny of the Jets, don't let the sun go down, Uh-oh, let's just say, Benny and the Jets, Led Zeppelin had an owl mount. And this is what you heard. I remember when I was a kid on WPLJ, they used to have Beatles Stones Who Day?
Starting point is 00:35:15 We just play hooky. We just play hooky. Go to somebody's house, plate the radio on, drink and smoke pot. Fucking tremendous. Fucking tremendous. I don't even know my point is, but, uh... Well, I know sometimes you get really moved by a song. I, uh, I agree.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I listen to the radio all the time about myself, and all of a sudden you're singing along, and then you're choked up. And it's not always necessarily a song of the highest order either. It can be cheesy sometimes. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I think we all reserve the right to cry to...
Starting point is 00:35:47 It seems like Crystal Gell. Like, reality stars. Like, that's what's replaced, like, going crazy when someone's coming to town or buying all their books or all that stuff. I don't think it's music anymore. Well, it's not rock bands now. I think it's like reality YouTube stars.
Starting point is 00:36:04 like those people. Like, you see the line, like, there was a picture. You know those Twitter accounts, like history and pictures? I saw one of the, what was that Beatles movie? Hard Days Night. Yeah, Hard Day's Night. Yeah, Hard Day's Night. It was just crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:18 It was just crazy, like, the premiere of Hard Days Night. And you see, the only place I ever see that now is sporting events. And, like, when a YouTube star comes to town. That's pretty good. Can you give me a favor on the show, Greg? Can you put on Black Sabbath, killing yourself to live live live? But he was on Don Curses. But a second, first off.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Don Curses. Don Curses, rock concert. Again, I can't go home on a Friday. I remember being at a girl's house, having a great time, do an answer with your friends. But you had to go home to watch Don Curses's rock concert. 1130? No, no. After Saturday Night Live.
Starting point is 00:36:56 It was 1230 or 1. Yeah, it was after Saturday Live. Oh, my God. You were home. I saw that yesterday I was writing. with the music a little on, and this video came on. And my wife walked in, and I had the ear, phones on.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And my wife goes, what the hell are you watching? And I show what I'm watching. I pull the thing on. It's this video. And they sound fucking great. But in the middle of this whole thing, there's this guy jumping up and down. And my wife goes, look at that fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And I go, honey, I got to be honest here. That asshole was me. You got to see these guys, I used to make my own shirts and go to a concert. My friend worked at Levy's sporting goods. So before every concert, we go over there and make our own little shirt, Black Sabbath, or ACDC, or James Brown. Guy, put it on. Let's see if this is it.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah, Don... I like everybody to see Don Curses, but there's these guys at this show that are jumping up and forth. Is it John Furses or not? Yeah, this is Don Curses. This is what came on. And I guess they taped them at different... places and then he played the tape.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Well, his was, because Midnight Special was all in the studio, the Don Carshner's rock concert was supposed to be like this mad live event or whatever. And Don Cushner was hilarious. Here's a group that's made quite a name for themselves in the rock business. For the last 10 years, they've had hit after
Starting point is 00:38:27 hit. Will you please welcome the unique stylings of Ozzy Osbourne? He was a hilarious record. That's amazing that you know that. That's what he said before this. Every once, tonight we have a fun lace show. It was always the same. Every time we go to a fan poll, this band keeps coming up number one. That's the one for this one.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I just saw this yesterday. Really? But watch this. There are these guys with homemade shirts that are fucking losing their mind. And I tell you, I got so happy because I always thought I was jerk off. There was two other guys that were bigger jerk-haws to me. So I guess this guy's not going on the tour. He wants more Guinness.
Starting point is 00:39:19 He wants Ozzy Gidders. Bill, whatever is. Geezer is it? Yeah, Geese is the bass player, build a drummer, fucking Tony with no fingers. Tony. But watch these guys.
Starting point is 00:39:31 You're going to love this. This little guitar break, these guys pop up. Where is this? Lee, we're going to go see Black Sabbath? Or without liquid acid, you and me? Sure. Let's go, Lee.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Look there they are. Look at these moments. That's Joe Diaz, right there, jumping up in that, look, crying. That's me. That's me. That's me crying, the whole thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I wouldn't lie to you guys. Watch this. cut in here then we'll stop watching these two guys my wife is what is what's look at them oh my god oh yeah they're the real deal these guys look at them that's joe think they made the shirts yeah that's what i said i used to make those just so excited you have no that's what you cannot that's why when i go to a concert and i'm like oh i'm not feeling it right now that's how crazy i used to go i would get fought for whoever okay so you're going to all these concerts right like you're going to see black Sabbath this is from 13 to 19 I was
Starting point is 00:40:52 heavy duty right what time does the day start for on a concert day two 2 p.m. what do you do couple beers like just yeah take us through your day like oh I want to know and then the emotion that when the guy comes okay so let's say I went to see when I went to see the new barbarians that's the stones with Keith Richards right without Mc Jagger it was a fucking beautiful day in April and somebody came to me like a nine in the morning go listen let's play hookie go into the city scout tickets get the tickets now we'll come back take a shower so you knew the night before like they like pink floyd they call you the night before hey man tomorrow we're thinking of cut in school and going into the city and getting tickets for the new barbarians so
Starting point is 00:41:33 I went over with this kid named Mike Denny the devil he had an RX7 I'll never forget this fucking kid that was part of the thing I had to pay for the toll because it was a two-seater so I went and got everybody tickets, like three guys, four guys, tickets. I came back. And you would meet like, in those days, maybe 5.30. First, you had to get beer. So you had to get beer. You didn't get served.
Starting point is 00:41:56 That could take either 10 minutes or an hour. And we'd start with a light package. We'd get a case of nips, right? That's light. A case of nips, which is six, eight packs. Okay, six eight packs, four or five guys. you drink that a couple numbers
Starting point is 00:42:14 maybe you hit an acid or hit a mescaline at 13 and shoot right the fuck over there I went to see the stones and far and on I had a window pain acid those guys started
Starting point is 00:42:24 at lunchtime Wow lunchtime they started When I went to see the wall In 80 I was 17 I started at lunchtime And I had everything Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:42:34 Those guys came out To the stress factory last week Really Two of the guys the same night, the same show that we were in the car together, that went to pick up the Pink Floyd tickets. We went to the Paramus Mall. It was closed, and then we went to St. Peter's Prep,
Starting point is 00:42:50 and that's where we got the fucking tickets for Pink Floyd for $15. Yeah, yeah, $15 and $50,000. No internet in those days. You had to go get them. You had to go get them or no, no, no, no, no. You had a mail in it, WPLJ to who. All right, so this is what you do. Send $12.50 a ticket times four, which is $50.
Starting point is 00:43:09 bucks send the money order for $55 for postage and handling to P.O. Box 125, New York, New York, one or a law or two five. We'll notify you by mail if you got tickets. So in four weeks, they have a raffle and they would mail you a letter with your checkback or a letter with four tickets. Right. So you check back. So me, you, Greg Proops and Eddie Bravo, we're going to go see four nights. Okay, so let's say yes was coming for five nights. We all got together and you put in for Tuesday. I put in for Wednesday. You put it for Thursday Friday. If Greg Brooks and you go, then we all go Tuesday and Thursday. We will get lucky. And then we would go Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. That's big talk.
Starting point is 00:43:50 That means you go to the park and talk shit. What the fuck do you know, bitch? I was there Wednesday. When they did the drum solo? Where the fuck were you? You weren't there Wednesday, you fuck. I was. That's the passion that you have. Yeah. We used to get up to go see the Bay Area, the day on the green, which was at a Oakland Coliseum Baseball Park. And that show started at, I don't know, one in the afternoon, two in the afternoon. And we'd get up in the morning and go eat breakfast together and then start drinking.
Starting point is 00:44:20 How old were you? Oh, 15, 16. You know, and, you know, some of them were hokey. I remember one was, you know, more California. Loggins and Messina, Linda Ronstadt, Renaissance, and then the Eagles. And I think Peter Frampton came out and played with them. And then, but the one that I remember was, Sammy Hagar, Mahogany Rush, Blue Oyster Cult,
Starting point is 00:44:45 Jay Goss Band, the Yon Hammer Group. Oh, my God. Doing Miami Vice shit. Oh, my God. And I think Jeff Beck might have been on that one, too. And, you know, you're so drunk by noon, you know, and this was outdoors in a baseball park, so you had to file in, and there was no assigned seats.
Starting point is 00:45:07 like you, of course, we were on the grass. That's where you wanted to be. You know, they put the stage in the outfield. And I remember a big fat biker chick dropped her acid on me. And I was pretty high and I was just laying there. And something fluttered down onto my jeans. And this giant woman came running over and I was fucking high. And she went like that and grabbed it right off my crotch.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And I was like, what's happening? And then she went, thanks. I dropped my acid. My first big one was. And you have to go in the, well, you could do drugs out. In the 70s, you can fucking do anything. No, in those days at those concerts, you rip the fucking no one cared.
Starting point is 00:45:43 You ripped the joint out, that's it. And acid, take out sheets of acid. Sheets and acid. It was fucking crazy. But my first big one was Aerosmith, Ted Nugent, Frank Marino, Mahogany Rush, Poco. And I'd like to say journey, but I'm not sure. I don't want to say it and get myself in trouble.
Starting point is 00:46:02 No, no, they're a 70s, man. They're definitely in there. And I remember walking home and we could hit Ted from my house. Oh, yeah. Like from Ruth three in the Meadowlands. Then the Dead did one, and somebody jumped off a balcony in the beginning of the metal ends.
Starting point is 00:46:17 In the very beginning, the Dead came to Jersey. He was tripping on ass and he jumped off the fucking thing. Tripping balls. Bro, you decide I could fly. Wow. The Who and the Dead did a tour, too, together. And they played. I didn't go to that one.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I didn't go to that one. They did. I didn't see it. I saw David Bowie and. clash. The clash. I saw the clash a bunch of times. And that dude Blondie? I saw Blondie a bunch of time. No, no, no. Point Dexter? Buster. Buster.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Buster. St.A. When he was... That's Shea Stadium. David Johansson. David Johansson. Shea Stadium. He had a great group in the 70s. The gayest concert I went to see that I loved, okay? I don't give a fuck. Was a flock of seagulls and motherfucking the go-go-go. Oh,
Starting point is 00:47:01 shit! At the Garden on a Tuesday night. I went to see the pretenders one hot fucking August sticky August night and fucking the garden Jeff Beck was supposed to show
Starting point is 00:47:15 with Rod Stewart in 84 that bitch canceled the door infactuation Yeah I went to see even bands Like you and Lewis in the news I love music Me too
Starting point is 00:47:24 And I always wanted to give everybody a chance I went to I saw Chicago I never saw Chicago I saw Prince That was probably the uncoolest one I went to But Prince I saw him on acid Purple Rain.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah, yeah. I saw Prince, Nucleus, Jamonit, Jamon, and Sheila E. Yeah, Shealy. For 15 bucks. Yeah. I went, I was blessed that, and I'm really proud of that. Oh, yeah. No, I quit high school and I was a loser and shit. I kept up on my shows. I talked about it on my podcast and people are like, they can't believe it. I'll go, no, I saw ACDC in 1979 and they weren't the, they weren't the closers, man. Ronnie Montrose band was the closer. I saw ACDC.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And they were awesome. They had a sneaky cordless guitar. No one had cordless guitars. That's how long ago was. Summer, August 4th of 79. Yeah. I saw Ted and Eric. That was one of those shit.
Starting point is 00:48:13 The craziest I ever saw in New York. ZZ Top. Okay, I never saw ZZ Top. The craziest I ever saw in New York was 84 Michael Jackson. Yeah. 84. Remember, 84 was Michael Jackson's Bruce, Bruce, Steve, born, and you. You have no idea, Lee.
Starting point is 00:48:28 You have no idea. Prince and Madonna. Prince and Madonna. This was fucking huge. Huge. Huge. Huge. Huge.
Starting point is 00:48:33 You know, Michael Jackson with the victory tour Did nine nights, and then the week later Springsteen showed up with nine nights And he had born in the USA You have no idea Prince had Purple Rain. Prince had Purple Rain the movie. He had a movie out, Prince, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:46 a scripted movie, but at the same time the album was kicking ass. This was just overwhelming. CNN had an interesting show. And they covered the 70s, 80s, 90s. Tom Hanks produced it. And when then I got back from a comedy show and it's 12 o'clock at night, it's on.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And they talked about the early 70s. music scene of what happened in this country. And this is a fact. In 1973, the United States spent $2 billion on ticket music sales. And if you see who's on, if you press, Stevie Wonder, you've got to see who Paul McCartney, Elton John.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Led Zeppelin, the Stones, the Stones, the Who? Focos were coming out of Florida. They were just starting to destroy. Forget the Ormond brothers and forget the Lennox Gillet was starting to come out. you know forget 10 73 in this country kiss was maybe around the corner
Starting point is 00:49:38 I saw kiss I saw kiss the night Elvis died at the Cal Palace in San Francisco did you know who I didn't I wish I had you know who I saw Chuck Barry and Bo Didley and uh both of them were outstanding Chuck Barry was a daytime gig and he wasn't the headliner I can't even remember who the headliner was he wore a white Keanu shirt and purple slacks
Starting point is 00:50:00 and uh and it's you know like loafers with tassels right chuck and he was how old then this was 76 so he was 45 he's about what 85 now something 90 and uh fantastic there's a lot of pretty girls here you know and then we're gonna do some oldies we're gonna do some golden oldies we're gonna do some moldy oldies and then he made the crowd split up and we sang my dingling i don't know if you remember that fucking chuck berry sing along song and you know how they always talk about him not having a band like It was just guys like Chuck Barry toured for 125 years. He did not have a band that he toured with.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Yeah, I watched a documentary on it. He just would travel with just his guitar. So it was four like college guys on stage, right? And he walked on and plugged in. And his big show that we're starting was this. That meant go. And you didn't know what song, but everybody knows everybody's Chuck Berry's song, right? Because he's got, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So he just fucking burn. So he does all his songs. He does my dingling. And then, and this is the part I'll never forget, it was boiling hot. It was my 16th birthday at Stanford University. He sat on the amp and just sat and played, and everyone came on stage for like half an hour.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And that's how the show closed. Then everyone fucked off, and he got up, and that was it, and he walked off. But he sat on the amp like this and just fucking, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I thought, this is the greatest thing, you know, like, is this what a 50s rock shows like? Everybody got on stage and just,
Starting point is 00:51:32 just fucking, and that was it. Like, he didn't do a big, you know, like, go light show. Yeah, man. Everybody come up here and let's do this. It was really, and when I saw Bo Diddley, it was at a club and Burling game called the Hall, 78, and it was called the Hall because it was really dinky. And he was at the end. And we came in the back, we snuck in, we're underage, you know, fucking drinking and doing drugs.
Starting point is 00:51:55 So we go, oh my God, it's Bo Didley, right? And with Lady Boe, who just died like two months ago, who was in the act, and he had a lady, fucking guitar player in his band who sang with him too. And Bo Diddley had a square guitar, right? And he wore a cowboy hat in shades. And his music
Starting point is 00:52:13 you know Bo Diddley, right? Maybe. Don't, don't, down, down, that's Bo Diddley. Bo Daly bomb down the gold. Give a little baby a Sunday coat. But when he played live, it was like a real fucking freaky.
Starting point is 00:52:31 and at the end of the show, everybody poking, including the whole crowd for like the last 30 minutes, everybody just insanity. And I thought, this is a great, never mind seeing people in a football stadium, seeing Bo Diddley with like 150 people. And he was, you know, not at the top of his career. He's probably doing a gig for a thousand bucks.
Starting point is 00:52:53 You know what I mean? This is 1978, 79. It was like... And he still went out there and fucked you up. It was, I'll never forget it. And then we went up to him after he met him, And he couldn't have cared loss. And he was dialogue in the fattest girl.
Starting point is 00:53:06 And so it was a perfect night. You know what I mean? Like we got fronted by him because he, come on, I'm trying to, you know, fellas, right? And I think I said, Mr. Diddley, because I was a fucking idiot. And I went, excuse me, Mr. Diddley. And he like went, yeah, yeah. And like, you know. I got to ask you something.
Starting point is 00:53:25 From you, from you seeing all these bands, do you think it's helped you comedy? Absolutely. Don't you, Joe, don't you think that, like, it's the live experience, the excitement, the thrill of it, the showmanship, the moment, the moment. What I like most about the rock and roll shows wasn't rockets or pageantry or lasers. It was if they were really fucking into it, if the band was into it. And you love the band, and you were on the right drugs and that, that excite, like you were saying, the passion, the passion. To be the guy in the front row in the homemade shirt fucking losing their shit. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I remember seeing Queen and a dude when they played the Bohemian Rhapsody when they got to the solo, the guy next to us broke loose. You know, we were at the Oakland in an indoor place. And it was that tour. They opened with, right? Like, they opened with, and the spotlight hit Freddy. He was on the top of the staircase. And he, buddy, you're a boy, make a big noise, right?
Starting point is 00:54:20 And then they closed with it, too. They actually did it again at the end. But they did Bohemian Rhapsody for their big encore. And when it got to the solo, the dude next to his fucking, like just. Just lost. And my cousin and I became hysterical because he'd obviously waited, you know, this was it, baby. This was, like you said, next day at the school, you're like, fucking queen. And no one said shredded in those days.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Queen smoked. Smirked it. You went to school, your eyes were still red for the night before. Oh, and tripping still. And still tripping. And fucking people do. So that's what I wanted to know when I asked earlier. Like, when that guy comes out and they start playing like the top song right then, like, what is,
Starting point is 00:54:59 going through your brain. Are you even listening? Are you just so excited? They're just screaming? Listen, when you go to a show, when I went to a show, I had a list in my mind they were going to do it.
Starting point is 00:55:11 You know, I had a list in my mind of what music they were going to do. And in my drug-induced fucking world, they were doing it for me. It's like when you see that movie with Mikey Warburg,
Starting point is 00:55:24 and he replaces the band. Yeah, yeah, the guy pulls on the side and says, listen. Listen, I don't even know if it's that movie. Something about, it's not about the girls getting off on you. It's the guys are getting off on you. You know, the way a guy sucks, you went.
Starting point is 00:55:40 You're like, they're playing that for me. I need this fucking song to make it until next week. And when they played that song, Lee, you lose your fucking mind. You know, I mean, I would lose my mind. It did make you want to be a performing that, didn't. I mean, watching rock stars was way cool. You saw how retarded I was in that video. That was Joe Diaz.
Starting point is 00:55:57 In 1983, I went to see somebody who changed my life. And I like him. You want me to lie to you? I liked three or four of his songs. I thought he was very overrated. And a chick. And his name was Frank Sinatra. Really?
Starting point is 00:56:13 My friends had a... I'm from fucking Jersey. I was going to say. So the last thing I'm here is Bruce Springsteen. Okay? Don't... Every part of you go on the USA, you got to fucking say, no. Enough.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Don't you have any deep purple. Anything. You know, anything. I listened to anything. You know, so I grew up with Hoboken, Italian people. The people who moved to North Bergen were the people who made it out of
Starting point is 00:56:33 of Hoboken. Italian, I made it with people out of... I'm sorry, I kicked the camera right out of whack. I made it. I grew up with people in North Bergen that had grown up, you know, to move to North Bergen, but they were originally from
Starting point is 00:56:47 Hoboken. Right. So when you went to their house, what did you fucking hear? It's not true. You know, when you talked about dinner, they talked about, where are you kids going to see today? the Eagles. Oh, I remember when I went to see Sinatra, $3.
Starting point is 00:57:02 You know, like you hit your parents up for money. Like my friends would go sit here so they know we're going to go to a concert money, $10. $10? Who are you going to see? Elvis? Now we're going to see Nazareth. I had to pay $2.50 to see Sinatra in a hoboken fucking dance hall. You know, Jimmy Roselli, the stories were just...
Starting point is 00:57:19 Right. So I didn't fucking... You know, I was into heavy metal and black music and all this shit. And all some of my friends are like, let's go see Sinatra. And you got to dress up. That really pissed me off. Like that whole thing. You're gonna put a tie on.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But bro, let me tell you, he did something that I never saw anybody did. With the wig. Didn't know the fucking lyrics to songs at the end, had a projector telling him the words. He had something that I can't even fucking describe. He had this control. Cool as shit.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Didn't give a fuck. What the fuck you were thinking? I don't give a fuck what you're thinking. It's 8 o'clock. right the show's supposed to start but I'm on my second scotch yeah then he four of them so sit tight and he come out there like this fucking thing and people I didn't lose it but when I saw him I lost it a little bit I was like look at this motherfucker oh fuck look at this fucking old fuck who's he think he is just and then he just sucks you in lay the next thing you know he's just looking at him like
Starting point is 00:58:20 what is he doing and he's doing these songs that I fucking got nothing to do with you they don't do what you love and birds and shit the lyrics were terrible I mean you look at Sinatra's discography it's got 3,000 fucking albums right? Oh yeah he made a million records
Starting point is 00:58:34 part of his part of his mania is that he made a million records yeah you know and these songs are about what we have for once today money got let's get a song about monago money got he sang about Chicago LA was his lady
Starting point is 00:58:46 New York New York all he needed was a fucking city so some of that but when I saw him it changed me and for a couple years on stage I try to do that shit control them a little too much and turn and not say nothing and I was trying to do Sinatra right right I was trying to fuck with them Sinatra was the one that really showed me that there was something behind this thing now I started going to see people but I wouldn't go see right after sonatra I went to see shot day
Starting point is 00:59:14 at a small place and she took me even deeper than Sinatra deeper is it a crime deep she just took me this black chick and a fucking thing. We paid $35 for the tickets. You had to have three drinks. She just killed it. So I learned that little thing. It's really interesting. You were saying that about Chuck Berry.
Starting point is 00:59:36 That's what reminded me about this because, listen, I grew up in the Palladium, which is San Francisco's film walk. Maybe 900 seats. Every seat is a good one. The place is crazy. If you ever saw a show on one of those places, I saw ACDC.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Def Leopard, but for them. August 4th, 1980. August 1st, 1980, after the singer died. I was going to say, that's the new singer. But I saw him the year before with Bonz Scott opening for Ted. Weekend Warriors. Ted was huge. And here's this fucking ACDC opening up for Ted.
Starting point is 01:00:13 That's the first time I saw what Music Mania was in New York. You know, taking the bus over the city, and as soon as you got to Port Authority, everybody was talking about ACDC. People had ghetto blasts. playing highway to hell and you're like, holy shit. Like, I just entered an ACDZ song
Starting point is 01:00:31 and the closer you get to the garden people telling your tickets. And you're like, by the time you get there Lee, you're so fucking excited. And people walking by going, hash, acid, hash, acid. I got loose joints, I got a single joint, big fat ones.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Take a look at the show. Oh, my God. It's a different world. And not very corporate, surprisingly. Even though it was our corporate world, there wasn't the amount of swag and merch and there was no such thing as video or you know like maybe if the band was high price they had video on stage but most bands didn't still do that then you know like it was a whole
Starting point is 01:01:07 another bag even prince and purple rain i remember there was no video on stage he had special effects and the you know a dick that shot glitter and all that crowd and or what was it a guitar that shot water and you know but it wasn't that it was way more about you know like you say the cult of doing that thing on the night. Well, even if you watch the song remains the same. It's my VH1 every two weeks. I always watch two or three songs. If you watch that video, there's nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It's them playing. There's some fucking smoke from time to time. There's a laser beam. But that's it. You know, later on, I went to see productions that were huge with fucking castles. I think you can learn a lot from the old-time performance like you're saying like Sinatra. My father was and my mother,
Starting point is 01:02:01 I was going to say something so stupid, I'm going to say it anyway. We're much older than me. And as they would be. Remember when you were little? Your parents were 10, 12 years older than you? They went to school with them. They took me to see when I was a little kid, Ella Fitzgerald with Count Basie,
Starting point is 01:02:18 Patty Page and the Mills brothers, Pearl Bailey and the stepbrothers. Jimmy Durante when I was really little died right after that, yeah. And that show there had showgirls, show girls on stage, and a guy did a cakewalk
Starting point is 01:02:36 with a top-hound tails right around the stage. It was around stage in San Carlos California, a circle star theater. So you sat, and then the stage would start moving. The stage moved. That was, you know, and Fristatra played there a bunch of times. Everybody played there.
Starting point is 01:02:51 So I saw it. all those old-fashioned acts when I was a kid. And it was fantastic, you know, because they are laid back, but they're always, like you say, in control. Like, Elephant's Shill didn't sell it, but when she started singing, it was electric. You know what I mean? In between, she'd be like, well, here's the song, you know. And then, I want to think the band.
Starting point is 01:03:12 And then, boom, she, and I swear to God, Joey, she did Sanford and Son. Like, but not lyrics. Like Eddie Davis, the sax player, got up with her, and she went, It was different. They fucked around. They fucked around. Didn't that's going to happen in comedy soon?
Starting point is 01:03:36 Like, people getting a little bit, like, it's already happening with live podcasts. Play Tony Bennett, we'll answer that when I get back. Let me go take a little take one blown by those. Play Tony Bennett. We'll wrap this up. All right. I'm ready to wrap. Now what's happening?
Starting point is 01:03:54 We play this song every Monday It's just Tony Bennett I want to be around To pick up the pieces He's still around Oh yeah baby I never saw Tony Bennett You never what
Starting point is 01:04:09 I never saw Tony Bennett No me either I saw Ella a couple times I never saw Synotchrist I saw Rickles in the 70s I haven't seen him Is he still playing? This is still fine
Starting point is 01:04:20 Rickles are so fucking funny And Jerry Vale open for him was an old-time crooner like Johnny Ben Tyling guy. Like the same you as a singer? Jerry Vale, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Yeah. Yeah. And Don Rickles made fun of him which was hilarious. That's pretty, I wonder why more people don't do that. Like, it would be kind of nice
Starting point is 01:04:38 to have like a full show instead of like, because sometimes the feature isn't great. Sometimes they are, sometimes the feature's good, but it would be kind of cool if like you like a band and they wanted to do two songs.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yep. Oh, I always like shows. I haven't done them in a long time because now the podcast Revolution and all that. But years ago, I used to play at Largo, and I always had music John Brian or Grantley Phillips or Colin Hay or Fiona Apple come down and do a couple numbers. And it just makes the show so awesome. Comedy interviews and then a couple numbers. Yeah. It's a really
Starting point is 01:05:14 gruevy atmosphere. And I think people really like it. I think people pine for the interaction in the live performing, they want to connect. That's why people go. Oh, yeah, and I wanted to tell to Joey, too. But for you, with the podcast, the way that people were so excited to see Black Sabbath, when they come out to see you and Joey now, they're just as excited. Like, I see them, and I'm a fan too, and I see some people like that, I'm just as excited. So it's pretty interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:46 It's evolved, you know. Everything is. Sorry about that. You guys got me emotional. I know. So my nose got clogged up. No sorry. I'm back, bitches. Sorry about that, you bad motherfuckers there.
Starting point is 01:06:01 No need to apologize. You're a beautiful man, and I'm going to make juice out of you later. I love it. Let me get some shout outs here. Groovy Bob. I got to remember that. How about a shout out to my northern emerales? They showed up with a fucking box with the best reefer in the world here.
Starting point is 01:06:16 We smoked to join the before the show. I really love that stuff. I'm drawing the rest of it to. save. I'm putting it in my fallout shelter. Perfect. You know, I got my man Alec Moscow, Abe from Sack, water box, I forgot to shot him out this morning. John Harris, Jonathan Hernandez,
Starting point is 01:06:34 Lewis Duran, Henry Salari, where the fuck are? You got to come to class. Cash ruling my world and my main man one-by-one podcast. Fucking the new he's the dude who made the cover for the scene. It's a great cover. Yeah, he did a good job with it, man.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I brought you on because we're both released the CDs this week. Yeah, well, tell me about your CD, Joe. Where'd you do it? I taped them in Washington, D.C. CD. specials. Anyway, my CD is about it. It's not my fucking forte. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I wanted you to talk about the process. You know, I'm a mutt. You're the real deal. No. How long did it take you to figure this whole CD out? You know, I'd been playing a lot, and I'd been, I had a club act that I hadn't put down. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:19 Like, it was new enough that I hadn't put it down. on an album. So I had a couple new things I working on that they were in there. And then there's stuff that I've been doing off and on and finally sorted it out, you know, and put it. And then the last couple things I riffed because the Giants had won the World Series
Starting point is 01:07:35 three times in a row last year when I did the album or three times in five years, so it was the third time around. So the last couple cuts, or the last cut is me doing the Giants Manager, which I improvised every night for like four or five nights. And then I made them pick the best one and put it. We didn't edit it too much.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Where'd you tape it? At the punchline in San Francisco. So I'm doing Bruce Bochy going, well, you know, when Angel Paghan, you don't want to give him a chance to get out there and say, he made a chicken tetrazzini the other day that really surprised a lot of us. We didn't expect that kind of flavor out of the center fielder. And, you know, you want to get, you want to get Angel a couple chances at the dish up there.
Starting point is 01:08:15 And Hunter Pence made a kale shake that I think energized a lot of the guys in the club. It was just nonsense, you know. And I do Tony Bennett singing, God bless America, because he sang it at the park. And he fucked up the words when he sang it. And I was like, he's 80-something, give a guy a break. So I do Tony Bennett singing the anthem and shit. Is it a punchline your favorite club in the country? One of them, I mean, it's my home club, and I'm from San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:08:36 So, yeah, like, I love going back there. And it was the only place I wanted to make the record. And also, you know, I can get away with murder there. And that's what makes it good. And, you know, especially, like, it was the end of the year last year, in the beginning of this year, the Giants had just won the World Series in October. So to talk about the three World Series
Starting point is 01:08:56 in front of that crowd in San Francisco where they don't, they're not disinterested. I didn't do it in Chicago or Maine. I mean, in San Francisco talking about the team that we waited 50 years for, and then we got three. And so, like, that part was really fun. It's not all baseball.
Starting point is 01:09:11 What do you think of that, Cocksucker, three World Series. He's over there throwing spears at Lee. Lee's over there going to fucking dead. I'm a, right? It's a rest of. Well, you have three World Series. We have a bunch of World Series.
Starting point is 01:09:23 You have three. And then before that, it's 1918. Let's not get crazy. So they have three in how many years? 2004, 2008, 2012, 13? Yeah, something like that. We've talked the past two years. It happens.
Starting point is 01:09:38 And then last year, they sucked last year. But it does. It goes in cycles. I saw something really. The Giants fans and Sox fans can't fucking whine anymore. We could for a long time. Right. But then when you win a couple, it's like,
Starting point is 01:09:49 Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. Then you're a Yankees fan. We didn't win this year. Really? Fuck you. Something really interesting I saw, and I called Lee immediately, was the design they have at the airport. They have the Super Bowl thing every year, and they have the scores. And they have the picture of the MVP of the game, you know, whoever it is, Roger Craig,
Starting point is 01:10:10 stepping high against Miami, whatever. And I was telling Lee, I called him, like, oh, this is really interesting, that if you look at the Super Bowls, the teams linger for three years. So the first year they'll lose, then they'll win one, then they'll lose one. Then they'll come back three years later and win two. It's really interesting what I saw from the beginning all the way. The first three, Baltimore, Miami and somebody out. So it's like a team has three years to really figure it out, then they move on.
Starting point is 01:10:39 If a team has a good quarterback, they can pretty much stick around for a few years. Well, Montana had four. How many does And Bradshaw had what, four? Four. And what about your buddy name? Brady? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I think he has five, isn't he? Five now. No, no, no, no, no. I think he's four now, yeah. But he's been in like six or seven. Yeah, he's been in six. He will be lost to the Giants. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:02 God damn it. Well, the biggest paid days of my gambling career, I quit high school and I decided to go back. I was fucking broke. It was the holidays. And the Dallas Cowboys, San Francisco kept with it. Then they lost it.
Starting point is 01:11:17 against somebody. But I kept betting them. They kept covering that year. 82. They kept covering. Right. Covered. And I remember that there was a guy
Starting point is 01:11:27 I didn't like too much. He didn't like me either. He was a Dallas cowboy for it. And we were at a bar and I was fucking lit. Gregor. And I'm telling them, I go, listen. What you mean to tell me is Dallas is given a point in half. And they're going to come in the candlestick and tell Joe Montana's story.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Right. It's not going to happen. He's a captain. telling me I didn't know dick I didn't know dick put my money where my mouth was and I'm like you know what what I'm just telling you that you're in no danger montana's gonna chuck those motherfuckers out those little criminal in so sunday came and i put a bet it and i bet the over and the night is i never forget we're in my friend's basement just him and i we both bet the fucking night is and when he threw that touchdown the clock oh that was the game like that game i won eight hundred
Starting point is 01:12:15 I still remember. I was a senior in high school. I was at my sister's house in Phoenix. I went 800. Can you fucking believe that? 800 bucks. And then they played Cincinnati Bengals, right? They played the Bengals. Yeah, and beat him. And beat them. I had that game. At the end of the game. At the end of the game. Goal line stands.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Fucking tremendously how good. And since he came back and scored again, and they still beat him. There was a stand where they had like four plays from what within the five. And on third and like goal, third and three, Dan Bunz, who was a reserve fucking linebacker, they put him in, and he came across the screen and nailed a fucking
Starting point is 01:12:51 since he running back, not icky, but the other one, right at the fucking goal line. And Bunn said, I looked down where his arm was, and just fucking yard, you know, and that was it. Then they were forced to fucking, they didn't score. They did not score.
Starting point is 01:13:07 They had to try for a fucking touchdown, and they didn't make it on fourth. And that was the end. And they scored again, but it was the end of that. And that was a good team with Sincere. That was Kenny Anderson. Yeah, Kenny Anderson, Chris Collins was worth.
Starting point is 01:13:17 And they hadn't been to the Super Bowl either, I don't think. I love that Super Bowl. We didn't have Jerry Rice done or anything. We had crappy running backs. We had Earl Cooper. Yeah, Ronnie Lott, though, out there hit him motherfuckers. Dude, we had the fucking best back to the world. It was Carlton Williamson, Ronnie Lott, Dwight Hicks, and I can't remember who the fucking fourth back on, Reynolds, Fred Dean.
Starting point is 01:13:39 The defense was nasty. And we didn't win. The first six games, we were like three and three, and then we caught fire. I forget they played that. They had a special edition Sunday night. Dallas was tough, too. Dallas was tough. Starbucks still.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Starbuck, but I'll tell you, I saw a Sunday night game with an Atlanta Falcons. The Atlanta Falcons played fucking San Fran on a special edition Sunday night. Before he, this was NBC. And they had a running back. The Atlanta Falcons then, forget his fucking name. But that secondary was beating up on that Dwight Hicks kid. That kid would hit you to fucking kill you. mother like your mother would rattle in the chair at home.
Starting point is 01:14:16 And that's the legend against the net. The Jets, didn't he get his finger cut off? That's the little finger. You imagine that? Tell him. Tell him. He got the end of the tip of his finger crushed. And the, you know, the medical guy says, look, you know, we got to, we got to wrap this and take you to the hospital.
Starting point is 01:14:32 And he's like, I'm not coming out of the game. And the guy's like, well, if you leave it in, I have to cut it. And he's like, cut it. So he's missing some of the end of his. You imagine that shit? That's when you know you love something. Ronnie Lott is legendary in San Francisco. I mean, as much as Joe, of course, and Jerry,
Starting point is 01:14:49 but Ronnie Lott is as beloved, I think, by the Niners fans, because he was on every one of those teams. Anne was, you know, by the end, he was a rookie like that year, and I think, again, since he might have been the second year, the other three guys were rookies, but by the end, he was the veteran. And then it was his way of the highway. Like, you know, you don't come on to this team
Starting point is 01:15:07 unless you're going to play at my level. late in the career Jerry Rice we got this receiver from USC named JJ Stokes who had all kinds of talent but he wouldn't press and I remember a story of Jerry Rice
Starting point is 01:15:20 said come and train with me and Stokes went no I'm all right man and you're like no you see Jerry Rice asked you come over come over early and bring oranges you know what I mean because Jerry Rice used to like run up a mountain
Starting point is 01:15:33 that was where he lived that was what he did every morning right like seven miles you know and then back down because Jerry Rice was and JJ Sticks just couldn't be fucking bothered. No, you know, I'm like a
Starting point is 01:15:45 big deal and I always thought, you pussy. When Frank Sinatra says come over, I want to work on some shit, you don't go like, I don't know. Nah, I don't want to go down to that traffic. It's tough ride to Santa Monica right now, 5 o'clock. That time of day,
Starting point is 01:16:02 golly, Jerry. I don't well, that's so nice that you want a bunch of money on them. What I remember about the Niners is they never covered this spread. Once they got good after that Super Bowl, they had a fucking way of all over. But that year they kept covering it. And you wouldn't bet them, you were like they're a fluke. 13 games in a row, 10 games in a row.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Then they lost a lot of games. In those days, they couldn't be fucking New Orleans. Yeah. They couldn't beat New Orleans. New Orleans were 0 and 9. They would beat the fucking Niners in San Francisco, beat them up, throw them around, bit slap them, somebody broke it on them. It was fucking outrageous.
Starting point is 01:16:35 They had that number. Yeah. It used to drive me fucking crazy. But that first season, they kept covering, and nobody else bet. I caught on, like, game seven is when I caught on. They beat the Jets and the Steelers in the middle of the year, and they really handed it to the Steelers. And the Steelers were awesome, then.
Starting point is 01:16:52 And it was like, oh, you know, the amount, maybe I'm confusing with it. I want to say it was that, yeah. Do you think the, did you over here by Montana Drug Rummers? Oh, yeah, the whole team. Well, it was the 80s in San Francisco, man. But Fred Dean left San Diego. because at those days, he called them a bunch of free base of motherfuckers,
Starting point is 01:17:12 which they had the league covered with drug. There's well-known stories. I mean, all their players went out to write books, Chuck Muncie. They went to write books out. They had a liaison in San Diego that just handled all their drug offense. Chuck Muncie was a good back. Yeah, until he dropped the fucking ball when you bet him. He was a good back to you bet him.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Then he'd fumble on the two, and you'd lose your goddamn fucking mind with Chuck Muncie. How old is that anger? There was the most of been a game like 20-80s. This is the early 80s, okay? Hey, listen, listen, there's something about Uncle Joey. You know what I had to turn the red for us. Listen, there's something Uncle Joey got to be coping, you guys, okay? So when's your record come out?
Starting point is 01:17:48 There's something I got to cop to. All right. Uncle Joey plays fair. He's a great guy. I pay you when I lose. Let me tell you something. I don't mind losing, but it used to kill me to pay a Bucky on Thursday because somebody fumbled.
Starting point is 01:18:02 That's why I stopped betting football because I would not sleep. Even as a kid, me and my buddy, Whitey and checking McBride would bet like, you know, the Knicks. And then they put Phil Jackson. You have no idea what it is to grow up with Phil Jackson on your team. He was a fucking lot when I was growing up. He had the needle shoulders. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:18:20 And when they put him in with two minutes left, let me tell you something. My mom didn't run that house correctly. I would have thrown that TV out the fucking witness. $5 was a lot of fucking money in the eighth grade. I hate it losing. That's why I couldn't get it. You can't be a gambler. Cannot be a gamblers.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Gamblers don't care whether they were going to do. No, no, no, no, no, no, I can't. They just want, no, no, no, no, no. Especially when I got to get out, but they eat and work. Listen, I'm selling ounces of coke. I could spare to lose 300, you know, one game. You come and go, you got to give money back to the universe. But when I got to get up from 8 to 4 and drill nails and cover sheet rock to fucking control my gambling.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Without your, without lunch money. No, that's not. That's not my world. That's what stopped me from gambling, really. I just got an email about a week ago. Some guy going, he can't stop gambling. I'm like, that. That's the end. Once you start tapping your fucking cards and shit, I didn't even have cards that.
Starting point is 01:19:12 If I lost, I had to do fucking kinky shit. Whenever I lost money, I always had to do something fucking I didn't want to do. Do you ever try to go to a casino and win a bunch of money at poker or blackjack? Fuck no. Fuck no. I don't know how to play none of that stuff. I don't have the patience to sit there. I thought that Vegas was running a charity when I was a kid. When you're 18 and you hear people,
Starting point is 01:19:37 I won 800 last right let me give it a shot and you don't want it's like life it lets you win it's like do him blow it first you get hard on So everybody wants to hang out with you you're a fucking king of swing give it two years And that's how gambling it sucks you in next thing you know you you're fucking sucked in And listen the biggest worst beating I got was 800 that I didn't pay the guy But my room at the time we were 18 he took a bath of 60,000 oh no He didn't get to kill him no he got to get two jobs and his dad had a sign for a loan Oh my God. This kid got so...
Starting point is 01:20:09 He never watched football again. Never watched sports again. Never, ever, ever. He's on Facebook. He won't friend me. Very, you know, it was that fucking deep. He had two jobs. And I saw that, and I'm like, I don't want to...
Starting point is 01:20:23 And I'll tell you, it was a degenerate gamut? My mother. Yeah. Baseball. Really? The Yankees, the fucking Red Sox and the Mets. She gave a fortune. Degenerate.
Starting point is 01:20:36 And you know what? Women are the worst gamblers once they get into it. Look what's going on in Connecticut with all these casinos. 60 minutes did this thing about how women are getting hooked on the colors. It's not just numbers no more. It's become, they three-deed the games. Everything's visual. Butterflies and shit.
Starting point is 01:20:51 And that's what they're doing it for? Oh, my God, terrible. Gambling's a very hard addiction. My father was a degenerate horsewear. Degenerate. Degenerate. My mother, too. That was her game.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Horses. And they would do the 3 o'clock, and then you lose. And then my mom would catch herself. Roosevelt you know Roosevelt race track like it all the way up there and what the fuck part of New York is that we're married Jay Blige is from and fucking the kid
Starting point is 01:21:16 in the Kmart accident. Roosevelt? Yeah, Rosaville. Yonkers. Yonkers. That's all the way out of yonkers. It's a long trip. And my mom would get out of the last race. It's like fucking Hollywood Park. If we go to Hollywood Park, I made a mistake. I went to the Hollywood Park. I went to the
Starting point is 01:21:30 casino ones. No, no, no. On Fridays when I first got here with dollars, it was dollar Fridays. Dollar Beard dollar hot dog dollar admission. I thought I could go down there one Friday. I was scared to take money out of my pocket. That's Youngers. Metalands, you can gamble comfortably.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Ain't nobody going to rob you. They got cameras and go to fucking Yonkers and win 800. You got to hire four people. I was an idiot and went to the actual casino one night because that's right where Paula lived. And I went in there and played like a minute of blackjack and this guy tried to sneak in on my bet. Like, because they have like side bets at those weird.
Starting point is 01:22:06 because it's weird to play blackjack in california they have a bunch of side bets and someone has to pay the casino to do it there's a bank it's really weird but they have this like side bet that you'll hit like pairs so there's like dude was just putting money on my thing and i was like okay and i said no but then he kept doing it but then i split and doubled lost one and one and he was trying to take from the winning one and i was like no dude we lost yours and he was like getting all upset and I was like oh I probably shouldn't be the scary
Starting point is 01:22:38 because you know I left I'm not a good place for me to be. I think if you're going to gamble you have to feel comfortable oh no if you lose the money and you don't have the money no that's it that was yeah no I spent a lifetime of that nonsense it's not my not my sport gambling
Starting point is 01:22:54 and I think about it on Sundays when I talk to Lee and I think about it and just fucking around I lose just talking to Lee about bets I lose unless we talk about Listen, it doesn't take a genius to bet in New England. He averages four touchdowns to the game. You're all waiting on whether the defense or the other team shows up. He's going to get his four touchdown.
Starting point is 01:23:11 He's 28 points are coming from that fucking lunatic. Yeah, he's pretty good. He's doing great this year. I just, I have friends that gamble. It's just, you're always chasing it. But it's like anything else. It's just like drugs. It's a fucking distraction.
Starting point is 01:23:26 It really is a fucking man. I saw it kill my mother. I saw it destroy. That. And then. with gambling comes drinking. If you're going to gamble, you must have a fucking cocktail.
Starting point is 01:23:37 You know, you're at the casino all day. Yeah, you know, so it's just I've never been a big game. You know, my wife bought, she asked one I want for Christmas, I said, buy battleship. I like battleship growing up. I still haven't sat down
Starting point is 01:23:48 with a large battleship. Who has fucking time for an hour? I never understood people could sit there and say I played poker for 15 hours. Yeah. Unless you're going to win 15,000. But they don't. It's never about that.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Gambling is all about action. People who gamble want to be in action to gamble the next day. That's more important than winning, losing. When you have a big hit, it's fun, and everybody has a good time, and you go to dinner, and then there's the weeks that there's no fucking food, and the car keeps getting sold, and, you know, and all that jazz. Listen, 20 years of my drug addiction was the action. Going into dark places.
Starting point is 01:24:21 I loved it. I love it. And I could buy drugs from white people. I'm, no, fuck that. I'm going, I was in Beaumont, Texas, and my boy Slade's brother took me into K. KKville to buy blow. I mean, right now, on the other side of Beaumont, there's a town, and they're fucking hate
Starting point is 01:24:36 everybody. And he took me in there, like, at 4'emone to buy blow, and I was like, geez, they had guns. I was going to say it. Fucking craziness, man. And half of my whole rush was putting the $50 together. If I think about it now, that was part of the fucking thing. The cocaine was the least of my worries. It was fucking putting the whole deal together, borrowing the 30.
Starting point is 01:24:57 That's the whole thrill. Great proofs. Always a fucking pleasure to have you on. I found that you were releasing this, and I know how hard to work is. I was just looking at Lee thinking about how we shot a special in Vegas, and then I taped my CD in D.C. And I didn't use the same bits. You know, sometimes people shoot a special issue.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I use two different bits on the special. On the CD, just to make it interesting. Just to... And it's a lot of fucking work. It's a lot of pressure, man. Well, you want to do it right, you know? It's just, I always like that rustic sound I grew up on. I don't like to really polish CD sound.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Like I bought on a trip on time, I bought the kid who died, Freddie Prince Live from Chicago. It was God awful. But the sound is just how I like it. Fantastic. I could hear a dish. Yeah, I was going to say, I want to hear glasses. I want to hear glasses.
Starting point is 01:25:57 I want to hear an ashtray. Yeah, yeah. I want to hear an ash. hit a fucking ashton. That's how deep I go in. You know, when I look at really good comedy specials, I think, I liked what you did. I've always admired what you did
Starting point is 01:26:08 just because it was outside the box. Yeah. Outside the box. Yeah, it's outside the fucking box. But I always like the early specials. I like the, I like the Carlin transition, black and white to five or six years after that.
Starting point is 01:26:25 I like the Lenny Bruce, black and white, made my fucking dick hard. Bob Newhart, black and white. The Richard Pryor at the improv with the menu behind this head. I like that stuff. Me too.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Those comedy central ones with the curtains and the theater, you know, not to take nothing away. I don't like them. I don't like them. I'd rather cut on the money and do a smaller room, more intimate where my sound could get across. Absolutely. People could see my face. And DC was perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:53 DC Improv was a great little quaint. Yeah, I love that. DC Improv is a great little quaint little room. There's a little beam in the middle. But besides that, who gives a fuck. You know, everybody sees everybody. I thought it would be a challenge because they're a little on the politically correct side. So that's why I did the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:27:08 It worked out. So I'm putting it out. And then at least I could kiss this material goodbye. What's your name in this record? Savage Dad. Savage Dad. Savage Dad. Yes, it's me walking mercy to day camp with a gun in my back.
Starting point is 01:27:24 You don't see my, our face is just the gun tucked into my jeans, you know, because that's my biggest fear is the future with your children walking around. So you have to have a gun on you and the baby carries now. You know what I'm saying? Our first picture was just to get like a baby bag, a diaper and then have a gun in there, but I wanted it to suck you in a little bit. I like all this.
Starting point is 01:27:45 I appreciate this. So thank you for bringing the album, but thank you more for what you did. This to me is a lost art. Even if I fucking put the arm on it, it's you whacking off. You know what I'm saying? Just hold on it. All right, hold on, come back in 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:27:59 I'll whack off some more. This is what makes my dick hard. I like when somebody goes, you know what, I want to do something outside the norm. You know, the big word now when you go to meetings is branding. Yeah. Oh, my God. We need to brand your certain stuff.
Starting point is 01:28:15 I got no style. I dress like an electrician. But you, you know what I'm saying? I'm dressed like a electrician, but anybody could release shit. It's this stuff that I love. I didn't think you said vinyl. I was like, what's he talking? talking about i thought he was going iTunes but this is the genius now i'm gonna have to do it but
Starting point is 01:28:32 you're gonna say fucking joey copied me that cuck suck no so everybody puts out albums and there's a coupon in there you can download it too so or lee can if he's board beyond measure yeah this is all definitely download no it makes me fucking happy about comedy that there's still some people who brought their childhood yeah right comedy well there's a lot of people doing like vinyl just came back And then I don't know if you saw the last South Park. They did a whole thing about how amazing newspapers were and how we just like shit on them. It was just news and there's not ads.
Starting point is 01:29:07 And it's just there. I can just read it. And do you know all this stuff is happening? Do you see that? They're doing this season of South Park is basically, it's amazing. It's like all the stuff you're talking about in the CD. And all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:29:25 You know my biggest thing to do? do from the age of 12 was to 25 whenever I was in New York. I would just look at it one ads. Yeah. That's what makes my dick hard. Anytime I go to a town, even when I was just
Starting point is 01:29:40 starting comedy, I was featured somewhere, I'd get the local newspaper and look at the one ad, just in case. Because you never fucking know. You never know. You know, I meet somebody I want to relocate up here. This is it to be a dishwasher. I was addicted to one ads in high school.
Starting point is 01:29:56 You know, I wanted to see what they were looking for, so when I went into Mr. Lungano's fucking counselor, I'd say, hey, what are you talking about poetry? They're looking for fucking truckloaders over there in Brooklyn. You know, whatever the fuck. I always was addicted to that. So I get it, you know? When I was growing up, somebody told me that if you read the Wall Street Journal for four years,
Starting point is 01:30:14 it gave you more of an education than a college education. That's probably true. I really believed that until this day. And just a whole Wall Street Journal every day, that's a big fucking read. And the Sunday one has a huge. huge art section like it's better than the new york times and even though it's a murdock paper they have very good writers about sometimes when i'm on the road it'll be given out of the hotel
Starting point is 01:30:34 or whatever and you think i'm gonna fucking read one and then you get into it and go it's not all stocks and bonds there's a whole other thing right there's a whole other thing they cover everything they cover movies they cover you know this and that's like and all of a sudden you start reading about things you wouldn't have read about or things that you led to and that's what i think i don't know i think that's what our job is too you know as podcasters and the book is to curate things for people. The book's full of records and movies and shit I like. I think you have to turn people onto it.
Starting point is 01:31:02 I'm a big reader. I think that reading helps. Reading helps my writing. Yeah. I've always felt that. The more I read, the better I write. Absolutely. It all works out in the end.
Starting point is 01:31:14 It's all part of what we're trying to do. And for a young comic, I've always been a great reader. Like, I've always gotten something to read. You know, on the plane, I'd rather than much of a fuck. That's when you read the best. You got nowhere to go for four fucking hours. I got nowhere to go. I might as well dig into this now.
Starting point is 01:31:30 If it really sucks me and I'm in like fucking Flint. If the book takes me somewhere else, then I took a shot. Columbus did. Where are you at the next couple weeks? I'm in the Bell House in Brooklyn on Friday and Black Friday. And the album drops that day, you can get on iTunes or Gregproops.com. And then December 7th, I'm showing over at the Senate family, I'm doing the Greg Proops Film Club podcast, and we're going to show the Palm Beach
Starting point is 01:31:55 story, a screwball comedy from the 30s. And then the ninth will be at LaR. Lubitsch, and then after we go to Greg Proops.com. Then we'll be at the nerd metal, I think on the 15th. Just doing the podcast this month, really. New Year's at the... New Year's in San Francisco. Thank you for. I was just out last week. New Year's in the States. The great club.
Starting point is 01:32:10 You're the king of that fucking club. Thank you. All right. Let's go. I got to make my wife dinner. I love you. Have a great week. I know, no, no. We'll just do the ads without you. Don't worry, but you could go. Yeah, you can go. You're good. You got the ads for your Uncle Joey. You're going to leave me your fucking blind here. Can I use the key for a second?
Starting point is 01:32:28 Sure. Give them the fucking key. You got one there? Let's see. How far as you drive? Oh, in Hollywood. Oh, okay. You don't know that bad.
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Starting point is 01:35:06 It was a one-hour flight. I love you, Greg. Good luck to you on Friday. Let me know when it's jobs. I love you, my friend. Happy holidays to you and your family. In the ballpark. He's got it on vinyl.
Starting point is 01:35:16 He's got it on vinyl. And he'll have it on iTunes Friday, fucking midnight. Go crazy. Please support Greg Proops. Great comic has helped me a lot. You know what you guys. of them on the show. I'm talking about Onyk, the Alpha Brain. I flew yesterday. I got
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Starting point is 01:37:36 You get to spend it with your family. Hopefully, you're traveling right now, and you listen to Uncle Joey and Lee Syatt. And you know me, dog, from the bottom of my heart. I wish all you, cock suck. It's a tremendous Thanksgiving, man. I hope you get to spend it with your families. I hope you enjoy your families because at the end of the day, that's all you really got. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:37:54 Here at the church, we got our own fucking family. We don't have fans. We don't have none of that shit. We all fucking digging for one another. Look what happened. My man from the one-by-one podcast, Mikey Klein. He saw the fucking Savage Dad. I didn't tell him nothing.
Starting point is 01:38:08 He took the fucking cover and doped it up. And who's better than him? Now we're using the thing. We're going to send him a fucking package with an envelope. Who's better than fucking him? Because he took the initiative. But all these people, everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to fucking die.
Starting point is 01:38:23 You know what I'm saying? So I want to give a shout out to the one by one podcast And also all the support you guys give me On the shows and on the CDs and all these t-shirts And support and all of us So I love you guys It was a great Thanksgiving for me Because I'm thankful I got you guys
Starting point is 01:38:38 And that's from the bottom of my heart I'm very thankful for having you guys You guys have changed my life around in many ways Because you keep me honest And you keep me from fucking slipping here Even my little gumballie cheer We didn't give you your podcast last Wednesday because the sound
Starting point is 01:38:55 was fucked up. So what we're going to do is we're going to do one Wednesday with Greg Fitzsimmons. And then we'll probably do a special one on Friday. We'll get either Dean Delray or somebody, some fucking porno chick to come in here and put a banana and their ass off for Black Friday. All right guys. You know I love you guys. Don't forget this, tomorrow night, Irvine,
Starting point is 01:39:12 Wednesday night before Thanksgiving my anniversary. 8 o'clock. Leasnall to be there with me. Wednesday night. Irvine. Then December 5th. I'm at Governors in Long Island. Two shows. Seven and nine, Lee will not be with that with me, unless he fucking comes on the back of the plane and parachutes him's ass down the fucking stairs.
Starting point is 01:39:31 But I love you guys. Thank you very much. What's up, buddy? I have my ways. I know you got your ways. You're a little cock sucker. I want to thank Greg Proops. And from the bottom of my heart,
Starting point is 01:39:39 I know you guys support us also. Whatever you can do, if you can't do the vinyl, at least get the iTunes, and let's rock out without cock out. It's going to have a new fucking year. And you'll love the CD. I got some great bits on there.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Thank God I'm putting them fucking down. And I start new in the jam. January, you know, on the fucking Savage Dad tour. All right? I love you guys with all my heart. We'll be here Wednesday at 2 o'clock with my man Greg Fitzsimmons
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