The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #396 - Eddie Bravo

Episode Date: July 11, 2016

Eddie Bravo, Owner of 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu and the founder of EBI, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio.   The Seventh Eddie Bravo Invitational takes place July 16, 2016 at the Orpheum The...atre in Los Angeles, CA and being streamed live for the first time on UFC Fight Pass.   All info can be found here: http://www.eddiebravoinvitational.com/   This podcast is brought to you by:   SeatGeek: Download the FREE SeatGeek app and use promo code CHURCH to get $20 off of your first SeatGeek purchase.   Datsusara: Go to DSgear.com and check out all of their great products, like gi's and rash guards, that are made with high quality hemp textiles. Use code Joey to get 5% off of your order. Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.   Recorded live on 07/11/2016.
  

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Starting point is 00:01:21 A-strow and heat, listen to, tonight. I want to stick it in you. I love it. The church, bitches, Sunday, Monday, July 11th. It's a whole new fucking week. It's a straight week. There's no fucked up holiday on Monday. you're walking around Wednesday thinking it's Thursday
Starting point is 00:01:59 it's just going to be a beautiful fucking week Lee Syatt my other little brother Eddie Bravo in the house Oh shit fucking Vegas driving back Signing autographs the UFC past People telling me people wouldn't leave you alone at the fucking comedy show Asking if you want to go to Spearmint Rino and shoot Fucking crazy people out there aren't that those things They're crazy
Starting point is 00:02:21 They go out there to lose their mind I was smoking a fucking number with talking layer hidden under a bridge as six people came over we were fucking draped and fucking what's that camouflage and people still found us in the fucking weeds though
Starting point is 00:02:39 was Vegas crazy this weekend it must have been yeah it was nuts crazy the fan listen the fan expo is fun as shit you know how many I mean I went the first year how was it this year
Starting point is 00:02:52 it was good packed yeah packed Yeah, it was, it's growing. It's bigger and bigger. They have like wrestling tournaments, kickboxing tournaments, that MMA events going on. I mean, the space that they rent for this is like, oh, man, it's like Lala Palooza or something, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Or a Coachella. It's just a giant fucking play. I mean, they had an IBJF full-blown tournament going on with multiple mats. And they had like an eight-man superfight thing too. They had karate tournaments. It was fucking huge, man. It was crazy. I was going to fly in Thursday and go Friday morning,
Starting point is 00:03:31 but I had to go to the doctor at 915. I just took the 1230 flight and said, fuck it. But I wanted to walk around. I just wanted to see it wasn't even the fighters as much as the other shit they got there. You go, wow, martial arts has come a long fucking weight. Mouthpieces that are made of this, you know, whatever. They just have shit.
Starting point is 00:03:51 that you know I didn't see as a fucking kid I used to go to those martial art stores every fucking Saturday and just sit there and drew I'm gonna put away money and come back and get a star then they sold you a star and it wasn't sharpened that drove you fucking nuts you were told against the wall 80 times it wouldn't stick you're like what the fuck then somebody's like what are you stupid you gotta get it sharp now you gotta go down to the fucking hardware store and give the guy with the missing finger five bucks and he puts it in like a fucking thing, like a thing that closes, and then he would
Starting point is 00:04:25 hit his, that's how you got him sharpened. What are you going to do? Somebody said to bring him home and doing your mother's can opener. Remember that fucking can opener your mom had, that the back of it was a knife sharpener? I had one of those knife sharpening, like swords or sticks. I don't know how to use them. I spent time as a kid. You know, you can't. I had nun chucks at the kid, but it was the rubber with the foam kind.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Like I never got like actual good ones. What about, I guess it was a collie stick. When I did Taekwondo, my master had like a huge, long wooden stick that he would just whack us with if we were doing something wrong. Like that, like that was the best. Like that's what I always wanted. A collie stick? Just to hit my little brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You know, it's funny because today, Chinese connection was on. Somebody says, I'm watching the Bruce Lee Festival. And I turned it on. And it was the part where he was about to hang the fucking. fucking dude, which is just a violation of a martial arts film. Like this was the early, early, early martial
Starting point is 00:05:27 art films. And Bruce Lee hangs this motherfucker. He hangs two of them in one day, then another motherfucker on the third day. That's close with type shit. And like the one hang him high and one of those one of those he paints the town
Starting point is 00:05:43 red. I don't know what the fucking movie is. Don't quote me. Joey, you're wrong. I don't know. One of those Italian movies he did. was really he was really evil he was very evil in this movie bruce lee is evil so i'm sitting there i'm watching it and i'm watching it i'm watching when he goes and he's watching the japanese guys train he's watching the russian train and now i see him go for the kill and i put on periscope and i put him on and showed him and i narrated it any bravo is one of the greatest martial art runs he goes through forty motherfuckers you understand me but he says a lot of
Starting point is 00:06:19 line that is so unique. He looks at the school and he goes, listen, I come here to avenge my master. This has nothing to do with you. I'm allowing you to leave. It's like me coming into the house and going, Eddie, I'm allowing you to leave. And they were like, we don't know what the fuck.
Starting point is 00:06:39 They're sweeping the mat, mopping the map. He just drew a beating on those guys. He stabs the black belt with a fucking sword. He comes outside. He just is a spitting. elbow who does a spinning elbow in 1971 you understand that I walk directly and spins Eddie pops comes back kicks the guy goes in beats the fuck out of three more guys bodyguards then he fucks up the Russian dude then he
Starting point is 00:07:08 goes in and when he goes in to fight the master the master has a sword brusely took out new chucks and for a minute Eddie it was like I was 10 years old Is that scene on YouTube or something? I'm sure it is. Yeah. So, come on YouTube. Chinese connection, the ending scene. But the beauty of it is, Eddie, when he took those new chugs out, I had goosebumps, I got tears in my eyes.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Because I still remember the first time he broke those new chugs out, America lost their mind. Like, it's very hard to describe as an old man, but I feel proud that I saw it. Like, he put the new chugs out on the Friday, and by Monday, motherfuckers had new chucks. Yep. Not the fucking good ones either. The homemade ones. How do you make homemade newtucks? You take a broom. You cut it, measure it completely even.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And then you get eye hooks. And you screw the eye hook into the fucking thing on top. And you get a little six inch chain and you start practicing. That's a homemade fucking newtuck. Put that fight scene on. Okay, YouTube, let me see if this is it. It's two minutes. That's probably it, huh?
Starting point is 00:08:19 No, no, this isn't it. Go back. This is the end. You got to go back. That was part three. Maybe that was a part one. Right here. The fourth one.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Chinese connection fight scene. Okay, guys, this is something that... Just look at him. This is 1971. He's fucking Steve McQueen coached. They gave him a picture that said, Sick Man of Asia. And he walks back to the fucking Japanese school.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And he says, take this fucking from me now. Kick the volume on this league. Oh, I see. Now, this is based in the 40s when Japanese oppressed are Chinese. Take this from me and then get out of here. Whenever you are ready, I'll take on any Japanese here. Now, any problem, to you, you're like, Joey, why are you making me once? It's because...
Starting point is 00:09:17 No, I want to watch it. I want you to put yourself in 1971. Okay, nobody was doing anything close to this. You had Clint Eastwood. You had Charles Bronson. Then you must be tired. of living. Well,
Starting point is 00:09:34 we fight alone. All together. You think the guy that overdub Gusley's voice here ever got laid because of it? This was something that, these movies cost maybe 50,000 to make in Thailand. They made millions on this movie. Look at this guy's win. The fight scene itself I saw on a Wednesday in Catholic school.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And it was coming out Friday. This was the trailer, in happy days and I lost my mind in Catholic school. How old were you? Eight. Oh, yeah, of course. Lost my fucking mind. When they picked me up, they asked me what I wanted to do that weekend. It was to go see this.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And the movie theater was packed by me, Bob. Look at this shit. This is what America saw. Like, everybody got to see this. Not just Fista Fury, the first one, did kind of weird. This one swept across. us the fucking board. To this day, that shirt that he wears, that's one of the
Starting point is 00:10:51 coolest outfits. I always used to get that. You have to get the white shirt with the long, long, long sleeves, then the blue shirt, and then you roll the white sleeves up over the blue shirt. And he brought you, eight years old, here we go. I'm studying with Resad's father, and I'm seeing
Starting point is 00:11:09 this shit. Are you kidding me? Like, you believe it. It's like, that could happen. Oh, I lost my fucking mind. Look at this. And he chore-ass grafted everything. Right here, look at this. The money, the money, right here.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Oh, shit. That's money right there. A double punch backwards. Watch out how they turn it to dummies. You said they turn it to dummies? This is old school. But here you go. This was history, guys.
Starting point is 00:11:56 This was history. Right here. Everybody in the movie theater went, Oh, shit. Look at it. This is history. right here. This is like a-blinking. By-out.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Right now you're at the movie theater. Your heart's bleeding. Your heart's pumping. Your hands are sweating. You can't wait for this movie to end. So you can figure out how to get new jobs. You were looking blackbell magazines. You lost your fucking mind. That guy right there, that guy's name was John Ree.
Starting point is 00:13:01 He was one of the best traditional Taekon Doe guys at a time. He's not even sweating. No. That was classic. Now, that destroyed America, guys. So you went home and you made the wooden ones. And then people figured out, wait a second, you got to get the thicker stick. And then they did that one with the chain.
Starting point is 00:13:31 But then a movie called Carado, the Hong Kong cat came out. When Bruce Lee died, the first wannabe movie that you cannot find. because I've looked for this motherfucker. Was it Bruce Lye? No. It was his other good-looking Chinese kid but the opening scene is him fucking up like 13 kids and his mom's like
Starting point is 00:13:52 Carrado, time for dinner and they're like all right, see you tomorrow. Like they did this every fucking day for Carado. And Carado's new chucks had tips at the end. That destroyed him ever. Let's see if we could find that. Carado, the Hong Kong cat.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Oh shit. How crazy was it that This is 1974. This is probably 1973 A few months after Bruce Lee died Or right before Bruce Lee died They said step aside Bruce Lee And make way for Carrado
Starting point is 00:14:23 The Hong Kong cat Uh-oh Hong Kong or Hong Kong? Hong Kong. What about the fuck it is? Hong Kong, you know He was from Hong Kong What about Bruce fucking lie? They were trying to get him to
Starting point is 00:14:35 They needed someone to Look like Bruce Lee kind of sound like Bruce Lee, we just changed one letter at the end. And they were hoping, like, Kiss, they hope that the masses won't even notice the difference. You know, like with Ace Frily and with
Starting point is 00:14:50 Peter Chris, they got a different dude to play Ace Frily, same makeup, and a different dude to play Peter Chris same makeup. And, you know, the fans, the real fans know, like, what the fuck's going on? But, but, like, the Fairweather fans go, oh, let's go check out, Kiss, they're in town. They're not going to have
Starting point is 00:15:06 any idea. They're, they're They're counting on that. Isn't that crazy? The whole thing's on YouTube. Let's just see what this is. Oh, shit. The Hong Kong cat. Let's just see what this is.
Starting point is 00:15:25 He's got the same shirt and everything. You listen to my words. And crawl under both my legs. Then I'll let you go. You're witty enough. Better crawl under my legs. Or else you'll never walk. Go to hell.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Why are his hands in his pocket? Because he's that badass. Oh, my God, this is so bad. Worst shit ever. You know, they just threw out, there was a time period where they called Black Exploitation Movies. Well, they started putting knees out.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And when Bruce Lee died, they were putting knees out. Fucking, Tannen. Keep going, keep going, keep going. I just want to see if he breaks out of his new chuck that this is even the same guy. It's got to be. His name is Carrotto. Listen, they could have made a fake carato too.
Starting point is 00:16:24 You never fucking know with these people. These people were savages in the 70s, man. Dude, this is news to me. I never heard of carot. Bruce Lee opened up. Bruce Lee's death opened up every... See? This is the German version.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Shah Pow-Wa. You know, I loved all these movies, but once Bruce Lee died, that was it. I was not one of the ones that got... One of my funniest Eddie's conversations ever was about 10 years ago. But the guy who pitched Game of Death 4, like the balls on that guy. How are you doing? We don't want to waste your time for that.
Starting point is 00:17:12 We have an idea for Game of Death 4. Listen, yeah, Game of Death 2 made $2 million, and Game of Death 3 made $10 million. This, we're going to use a black guy and put Bruce Lee's face over it. That sounds interesting. what is your production value about 10 2250 because that's what it's going to cost to shoot that they ended up shooting like eight game of deaths that's crazy the first one was crazy enough let me tell you some
Starting point is 00:17:39 the first game of death is one of the worst movies you will ever see in your fucking life yes you know there's different reports that he started losing his mind towards the end you know like little things and when you watch that movie it solidifies death. Well, he, Bruce Lee was actually only in the last scene, the scene where he fights Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Danny and Asano.
Starting point is 00:18:04 He goes up from level. He had shot that. Then he died. And they wanted to, they had one tenth of the movie. And they figured, you know what, we could do this. We could put this shit out. He died in 73. Game of Death came out in 1977.
Starting point is 00:18:21 They had a fake Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. a fake Bruce Lee to play the whole movie except the end the real Bruce Lee comes in it was pretty fucking ridiculous it was fucking embarrassing it was fucking in my world it was fucking embarrassing I wouldn't go I wouldn't fall for watch put put the game of death fine game of death that'd be better because you could see the fake Bruce Lee this reef is kicking tonight and shit I can't believe I got to be in surgery and fucking 11 hours god damn Eddie for some reason I'm scared of this fucking surgery, though. I think
Starting point is 00:19:03 this is the game. No, this is the last thing. This is going to be the actual part that Bruce Lee's in. Yeah, he's actually in this. Can you find the movie Game of Death? You want, like, the whole thing? Let's see what we got. Because what they're doing is they're actually showing the parts that he
Starting point is 00:19:21 was actually in, but most of the movie he wasn't in. Yeah, right there. That Bruce Lee Game of Death is right there. Yeah. Look, look. He's dead for four years, and they decided um they open they open the movie with the chuck not the scene with chuck norris from that's really brusley but that movie was return of the dragon and then it turns out that this movie game of death is about like brusley like a superstar Asian action film star and he's filming here
Starting point is 00:19:53 and then they say cut they'll say cut and then oh they were filming them this scene and all of a done it's on Bruce Lee no more and you see like some other Bruce Lee lookalike walk away. Watch, check this out. See, look. Now they're... Is that Bruce Lee? It was Bruce Lee, but is that Bruce Lee? No. Fuck, no, it's not. Fuck no. They just, that's how they decided.
Starting point is 00:20:19 That's how they decided to make the movie. They used, see, that's Bruce Lee. That's Bruce Lee. And then they're going to cut back. Watch. They cut back and it's the fake one. Or they're show... See, that's the fake one. He looks up. They don't get a good shot. out of his face. They never really,
Starting point is 00:20:34 they always shoot around that dude's face. And then check this scene out, dude. So now the fake Bruce Lee walks away and now he goes by the crew and he's going to go to his trailer and check out. They put a picture of Bruce Lee's face
Starting point is 00:20:48 on this dude and has a conversation with some dude once. Check this out. This is the craziest scene of all time. Fake Bruce Lee. He's going to go to his trailer. Watch. Look, that's real Bruce Lee.
Starting point is 00:21:06 That's real Bruce Lee. They soup. Look, see how that... This is... Look, now, fake Bruce Lee. That's a fake one. And I got the famous American actor. I forget his name.
Starting point is 00:21:17 But that's the real Bruceley from another movie. They spliced... That's another movie. Oh, my God. It's just so... It's another movie. Fucking embarrassing. Look at the picture, though, right here.
Starting point is 00:21:26 This is going to be insane. Can you turn it up a little? You don't this reminds me? Hutch. They were very stubborn. Their lead guitarist lost a couple of things. real brusely another movie
Starting point is 00:21:47 hands and feet the known of this lights what fall out of the sky all kinds of another movie still that's the real bruce
Starting point is 00:21:56 man gotta have all his parts fake bruceley this is just awful what just wait hold on
Starting point is 00:22:16 wait the money shot is coming up sitting right there about a telephone just waiting that's a picture of Bruce Lee that's a picture no shit
Starting point is 00:22:33 that's him in Fist the fucking Fury They just showed two different pictures of them With two different haircuts This is something that only A fucking And the word got out right away When people left Friday night They're like, don't go see it
Starting point is 00:22:49 Different movie and then now that's The fake brusley It is something that And they did two or three more I thought with the fake Bruce Lee Yeah And the poor people who went to see it Listen man
Starting point is 00:23:00 I was I'll never forget him dying. There's no internet. It wasn't in the newspapers. So we actually had to go to Chinatown. And in Chinatown is what we found out. Bruce Lee was dead. And they actually had the newspapers with him in the casket. And then there were some of these 10 packs of pictures. So for four bucks, you got 10 boycotted pictures. The Chinese don't give a fuck. It was like Bruce Lee, two pictures. from each movie and two pictures from the casket one with him you could see the casket and the other one with like Steve McQueen and James Cobur and carrying the fucking casket and you think back now you're like how much money these people make
Starting point is 00:23:48 off this guy's name after he fucking died they made so many fucking movies you know when you go to blockbuster you see boxes and they actually say the real Bruce and you sit there and go how the fuck do these people get away with it but millions of people fall for that shit man I was seven when that game of death came on I didn't know a kid can't tell no kids can't tell that was made for kids that wasn't made for adults that was made to beat fucking adults that wasn't made for kids that was made to beat fucking adults they figured a hundred adults to go to the movie that and 25 of them were asked for their money back
Starting point is 00:24:31 that's what they pray and you know what in those days there was no computerized ticketing so I could tell you 50 people came to the fucking movie and steal 25 tickets it wasn't like it is now that in those days you gave me cash I put in the register
Starting point is 00:24:47 I gave you a ticket and I gave you a friend to your fucking I'd love to see a documentary on the making of death that would be hysterical they had a bunch of shit they had a bunch of shit maybe they did maybe they do that like you know he did and to the dragon,
Starting point is 00:25:02 but part of the deal was that they gave him all these movies for him to produce and direct. But he was losing it. None of the parts that he's in and game of death or any fucking Academy Award winning roles. By that time, he was doing the voice too much, he was doing the cat too much, he was starting to do a different cat.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Like, what the fuck are you doing, Bruce? You're killing me. But you know what, man? It's like one of the skin, who knew where Bruce Lee would be today? Was the martial arts still good? Were the fight scenes still good in the movies? Or were the garbage like that? Well, when End of the Dragon came out, that was his big movie.
Starting point is 00:25:39 That was on Warner Brothers. That was his first big movie. He finally, he did a Fist of Fury in small Chinese label, Chinese connection, small Chinese label. Return of the Dragon now that the production's blowing up. So then Warner Bros. But he kills Chuck Norris and forget. And Return of the Dragon. Everybody goes to see that.
Starting point is 00:25:58 That's another one that's, you sit there going, what the first? fuck of my watching, but he had some pretty good fight scenes, plus he kills Chuck Morris. And the end of the dragon was the big one. He does it. He has full control. He's like the man. Warner Bros. said, this is the motherfucker man right here. He had full
Starting point is 00:26:15 control of that whole movie. All the fight scenes, everything. He had, he was the man. Then he dies. So he dies right before the movie comes out. So the movie comes out. It's just fucking huge. It's like the biggest thing ever. But that was the line. Yeah. Like by that time, there was a line. Look for the fight scene, enter the dragon.
Starting point is 00:26:33 The second fight scene is possibly in the tunnel before Han catches him. When he breaks out, he uses every weapon known to mankind. He starts with the bow. He gets the fucking sticks that Lee talked about. Then he gets the new chucks. That's all great and handy. The other, I was home and it was on. And I watched the, I had to go do a spot.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And I watched the first couple minutes. Right there with O'Harrant, right there. Baddest fight scene ever. You're not even going to remember this Lee. Now, it's 1970 fucking three. This guy, this white dude rapes his sister. Put this on loud. Put the volume on Lee.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Watch this. Watch Bruce Lee's look on his face when he finds out who he's going to fight. This guy raped his sister, and she killed herself. Look at his fucking face. Yeah. Okay. So now, this guy actually knocks in the door and says,
Starting point is 00:27:28 bring your uniform for the whatever and Bruce Lee told them on my side another classic line Now you're in the movie theater as I'm 10 when this came out Lee I'm a green belt and karate And the whole school is there with you Bored don't hit back
Starting point is 00:27:49 Bored's don't hit back And now he got to use his real voice No overdubs Well they had money for these That dude's still alive Bois. Watch his hands, Lee. One shot. That's intense.
Starting point is 00:28:17 He can't even fucking believe. This guy's still alive, Bob Wall. Bob Ward will come to your house and tell you stories for the small 50. Same fucking move. What a great choice of like the scene, the way it's going down. Clots him with a fucking elbow
Starting point is 00:28:46 when he blocks it. Here we go, Lee. Watch. Look at this. Stop looking at the thing. Look at this. This is 19. 73 people. You're at the movie theater going fucking bananas now. That was one of the greatest kicks of all time. Oh, hell. But when he gets him with the spinning back kick right here, don't watch Mealy. Watch the spinning back kick, kid.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Watch this, Lee. Textbook. Bam! Are you fucking kidding me? This guy's getting smacked around in front of his fucking arms. Another one. He's getting bitch slapped with turning sidekicks. Jim Kelly just died, the black dude, just recently died maybe three weeks ago. We got this right here, Lee. Oh, you know what happens to your insides, Lee?
Starting point is 00:29:41 If somebody gets you with that like that? I think somebody broke their arm on this thing. Yeah, yeah. One of the guys sitting down broke his arm. But here it is, here's pure Steve McQueen. Someone just dropped a bottle. Well, they didn't have thermoses. They have water bottles.
Starting point is 00:30:03 in the old face. Look at this crazy fuck. Oh, that goes the elbow. That goes the equilibrium. And the ear. That's the shot right here. That's the look. You just lost your mind at the movie theater.
Starting point is 00:30:31 You had exploded. There was no weed necessary. Nobody could do kung fu like this. No, no, no. His acting was fucking awesome. His fight scenes. They were all just. How he looks at this motherfucker now.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Look at him. What? What the fuck do you want? Eyeballing me, son. Look at it. He's the best. Giso under the arm. He's dead.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Geesel right here. O'Hara's treachery has disgrace us. The greatest scenes of all times. That stands the test the motherfucking time right there. The way he wants, when he broke the, the way he walked to him, like, he's just like, I'm like a father. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:25 What would you do? He just looked at him. and said, you're not fucking serious, are you? You're really not serious. I just fucked you up and let you live, and you're going to bust two bottles. It was just sensational, and he was dead a week before that movie came out. He died a week before that movie came out.
Starting point is 00:31:45 It was already on the street that it was a fucking masterpiece, and, you know, it was just... I saw all these movies at a place called Encinatoni or the cinema. If the cinema didn't have it, We even wanted to see it. Whatever was at the cinema, he was always had seen that on it. He was owned by a Cuban dude with a wig.
Starting point is 00:32:04 But all the movies had Spanish translations. The movies weren't English, but with Spanish. All the guys that came after him sucked so bad, and the movies were so horrible that you could take any one of those movies from like Kung Fu Theater, you could do whatever you want with them. They're all public domain.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Nobody fucking owns them. You could do whatever you want with those movies, Those shitty kung fu movies, all those Bruce Lee ripoff movies, they're worth nothing. They're worth nothing. Public domain, all of those. They shot, Eddie, I remember going to Puerto Rico in 1973, a couple weeks after Bruce Lee died. Me and this kid named Jimmy Crespo, our parents were friends, and both our families went. But him and I had the same agenda every day.
Starting point is 00:32:51 We went to the fucking beach. We went home, we ate, we took a nap, and we caught a fucking kung fu. man they we saw Matt we were down there nine days we saw a different Kung Fu movie every fucking day that's how popular they were
Starting point is 00:33:06 they were coming out by the bundles even more so than the American movies my favorite movies I watched in Puerto Rico were the one arm swordsman I don't remember any of that shit the only I remember Jesus I don't remember the man master of the flying guillotine
Starting point is 00:33:22 do you remember that I remember that's the only thing I remember Sonny Cheever put a couple crazy ones out for a while. He was eating people's tongues and shit like that. Sonny Cheever. Do you remember Killer Be Killed by something Ryan? They were trying to bust out another Chuck Norris, some white guy. And the movie's called Killer Be Kiel. And Chuck Norris' his first three or four movies were not bad guys.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Good men wear black. Chuck Norris is legit. He transcended and started doing like missing an action and shit like that. Missing an action. I'll tell you what his favorite movie of mine is. Code of silence. Chuck Norris was fucking shit. Dennis Farina, with a crazy drug dealer who would give people Colombian neckties.
Starting point is 00:34:05 The mob was involved. Great story, 1984. I don't know what happened. People playing from the time to time. Code of silence, Chuck Norris. Yeah, that was it for me, Eddie. Chuck Norris has a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsin. Does he really?
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah, through the Machado's. His karate association is giant, and all the black belts are required to do jiu-jitzen. That's how evolutionary he is. What happened with Chuck Norris was, he was involved with something called Tang Sudo. And it was Tang Sudo, Teng Sudo, Teng Sudo. When the Koreans said where they got into it, then he took Teng Sudo
Starting point is 00:34:42 and the other guys took the Muda Kwan section of it, which is the same stuff, basically. When I moved to Colorado, one of the first guys I went through the Colorado Mountain College when you went to the classroom it was him and Chuck Norris. They had been the originators of that style and then they broke apart.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Bruce Lee was originally a Wing Chung guy. He was a traditional martial artist and in Wing Chung, they generally don't believe in kicking to the head because for whatever reason you can get off balance and fall into the ground.
Starting point is 00:35:17 So they like kicking low and that's what Bruce Lee was about. And when he met Chuck Norris, he's Tang Su-Doh. and Tanks Tseudo is basically Type 1 Doe, which means lots of head kicks and spinning kicks. And Chuck Norris was responsible for, they've had debates and shit, you know, personally. And Chuck Norris is the reason Bruce Lee started opening up to high kicks. Chuck Norris said, hey, man, if you can kick the head, why not kick the motherfucker head?
Starting point is 00:35:45 You land one shot in the head. And that's a grand slam right there. Why not have grand slams in your chamber? You know what I mean? Like, why? you understand you know especially like even in the ufc there's a lot of guys that never kick high they just they want they want to stay standing they don't want to take any chance because they know if they kick high and they fuck up and the guy takes him down that could be the whole fight right there one high kick look at chris wide wide you know what i mean so a lot of guys never throw head kicks or rarely there's a bunch of current huge UFC stars that just won't throw to the head and that's the way brusley was and until chuck norris convinced him to well if you want to do tv and phone You have to kick to the head for the effect. Nobody wants to see six body shots.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Well, the guy's kidney got fucked up. Well, that's exactly. Exactly. They want to see. But I'm talking about personally for his style. Right. Because in the movies, Bruce Lee was always throwing head kicks. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:35 He was always throwing head kicks. Yeah. And that, you know, that pissed off a lot of his original students, because his original students came from the school that Bruceley was teaching that you don't kick to the head and don't do fancy shit. It was all about just really practical the best shit. Like the best shit's going to be a head butt to the face. That's the opening move.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Elbow to the face. kick to the balls. Get it quick. Put them out. No fucking jabs. Just two or three shots and it should be a done deal. If he's not done with the first two or three shots, your style sucks. It's basically what the original was.
Starting point is 00:37:08 But then once he started doing movies and doing all sorts of shit that he preached against, his original students were like, dude, he thought it was kind of like, you know, in a weird way kind of sound out. But Bruce was like, hey, listen, movies, that's a different fucking thing. No one wants to see ball shots constantly or a headbut to the face. It's really crazy shit. Because I understood the wing chung style. And the wing chung style uses kicks in sort of a way like Kempo.
Starting point is 00:37:37 If you see the old really good Kempo guys, they block you and then they throw a short kick at your thigh. And with that short kick, they step in. So that movement is really not waste. Do you follow me? So I'm boxing you. Set it out. Boxing you. Unboxing you. I see you. I go to counter. I'm going to throw a punch.
Starting point is 00:38:01 But while I'm throwing a punch, I'm throwing a kick. Low, wild. It's a weird kick they have. And even like it's a slap kick. To go and move your hands and that's wing chunk. They move your hand and just broke and then they get out real quick. But to start and get out, it's a little leg kick. that you actually, sometimes it throws you off.
Starting point is 00:38:24 You don't expect it, you know. I'm very torn, and I want to understand how much of it is nostalgia? Because if you're watching the movie today, 2016, everything is bad, direction, acting. It's not entertaining. Some movies do stand the test of time and enter the dragon is when it's like Apocalypse now. It's like The Godfather.
Starting point is 00:38:54 You know when you watch The Godfather, you don't see shitty production. You see epic shots. You see epic filmmaking. You go back, but you're right, though. Most movies don't stand the test of time. You see shit production. Yeah, but there's a difference between like standing the test of time, and these are just like, I guess maybe it's because they're from China.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Enter the Dragon. You know what? Watch End of the Dragon. No, no, no, no. Watch Fist of Fury first. Okay. And watch his humble fucking beginnings. And then watch Chinese Connection.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Because Chinese Connection already launched him in the States. Okay. After Chinese Connection, Eddie, he was huge. And now Americans were sitting there, foaming at the mouth. And it drops Way of the Dragon. So this was entertaining. Where the Dragon was so big and made it to HBO late night.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And then it ended up being cold. return of the dragon. And then he had return of the dragon. But end of the dragons better than all that. And all that other shit was like the first couple. He anticipated. It's like Klinnie's Spaghetti Westerns. You could not dismiss his spaghetti westerns. They're classic
Starting point is 00:40:04 spaghetti westerns. You know, he put his heart into him. There was really no dough involved. He had nothing going on here. His TV show got canceled. He had nothing to lose. And if you ever have, like you like watching, fuck
Starting point is 00:40:20 kidding you'll sit there and watch orange as the new black than nine hours right yeah if I have that's good that's good if I have nine hours he's got his girlfriend thinks it's good it's an okay show but so if you have nine hours like this week I have 22 hours to
Starting point is 00:40:36 watch TV and if hang them high the good and the bad the ugly or one of those films comes on I will watch it I will run out to the balcony smoke dope even if it's on AMC with commercial because I have the time.
Starting point is 00:40:53 There's nowhere I can go with stroze in my nose. Those movies are so you know you have to do it's white belt shit but you have to watch it to understand what he did later on. That's why there's so many people that love the unforgiving.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I'm an outlawed Josie Wales guy. That's a Warner Brothers film. You follow me? And at this time he had put on This is when they were shooting Westmans all the fucking time. Jesus Christ. Oh, you can't get out that way, Eddie. There's a glass door there.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah, this is when, this is when you, you, you know, he was, what's that word? People use. Well, you don't want to be torn into something, the same role over and over. Oh, yeah, I know what you're saying. Pige and hell. And then he picked up the fucking whatever's. then he picked up the fucking the dirty
Starting point is 00:41:52 Harry thing and then he went back to like the outlaw Josie Wales outlawed Josie Wales like 76 then in 80 something he put out the Unforgiven so if you watch the Unforgiven it's great but if you watch those early films you know
Starting point is 00:42:09 all that early shit he did that was brilliant starkly it just takes patience and a woman's not going to watch for you doesn't really matter You order Chinese. You get two different dishes. You get a couple appetizers. You get a couple cans of fucking soda, a gallon of water,
Starting point is 00:42:25 and you put the food on the stove, and you put on these three films. And you really watch what America, what in the town. What a great job they did. The same thing happened with Bruce Lee. Okay. Bruce Lee had a show called The Green Hornet, and the show got canceled.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And then they came to him with another idea for a show. but a man that travels all across the country and the word on the street was Bruce Lee was going to get a TV show and at the end of the show he's going to do Kung Fu guess what happened at the end the network decided he was too Asian and they didn't want to commit so they got a white guy to play an Asian
Starting point is 00:43:04 role and that broke Bruce Lee's heart how could it not so Bruce Lee ended up getting a deal to make a show that was released as the big boss. To us, it was released as Fist of Fury. Okay. And it's a really good film, but I feel the Chinese connection was a lot better. When the Chinese connection came out, that was it.
Starting point is 00:43:30 That fucking put them to a new level in the United States. Why do you think they don't make these movies anymore? They don't have the... Because they don't have the, you know, Lee, this, these were independent films. The three spaghetti from Westerns, the four he made. made were independent films. Right. The three, the four movies Bruce Lee made, three before Enter the Dragon were independent
Starting point is 00:43:55 films. Okay. So do you understand that it was a different time. It was a different place for this type of shit. It wasn't about, you know, budgets and whatever. On the other side, on the other end, the United States, what are you doing, Lee? What are you looking for? You made me nervous.
Starting point is 00:44:13 What are you looking for? I'm just turning up my side. off, I'm fine. You know, the United States at that time is releasing some of the greatest films they're released in the history of cinema. Right. The first five years of 75 are some of the greatest films released in cinema. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:34 From the godfather to, you know, Dia Hunter with Dia Hunter and taxi driver came later on in 78 and 79. So here's Bruce Lee fighting for his line. I mean, if you look at the films, it got released. from 70 to 73, 74. So he's going up against major... He was going up against major firms. Now, when he came out with the United States, when he came out with Warner Brothers,
Starting point is 00:44:58 it was a complete different game. He had hundreds of millions of dollars of advertising. People were waiting for Bruce Lee, and all of a sudden the word got out, he died, which made the fucking movie even bigger, 10 days before he comes out. But to answer your question, now I know where you're coming from. If you didn't grow up, a Bruce Lee fan, Thiss of Fury, Chinese Connection, Return to the Dragon,
Starting point is 00:45:24 you're going to see the shit production. You're going to see it because you're just like, you don't have, there's not a nostalgic thing going on there. But enter the dragon. If you don't know Bruce Lee at all, and that's the first thing you see, that stands at test time. That's high quality production right there. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:41 But there's also a point to be made for him. taking over the country, it seemed like. Like, how could an eight-year-old boy not love this dude going in and just destroying an entire dojo? When I came from Cuba, on the weekends, my mom
Starting point is 00:46:00 always did things. She always did different things, and then we go back to the bar. And I still don't know being a little boy and stopping at a gas station. In those days, golf, golf, that gas station golf, you got a notebook.
Starting point is 00:46:16 and every time you go in and then got gas they gave you a coin and if you filled the fucking notebook up with the coins you got something and I never forget that I got those coins and I wanted to win something but it didn't matter because the green hornet was coming out at 7
Starting point is 00:46:31 I still remember going home as a 4 or 5 year old and watching this Chinese guy and going wow. Before he made his movies he actually had it was on an American show the Green Hornet he was a sidekick he was like Batman Robin He was Robin.
Starting point is 00:46:46 He was wrong. He was wrong. On the Green Hornet. And then once that show got canceled, really quick, like within maybe two seasons, it got canceled. Not even. Not even. It got canceled. So then he went to China to, I think. His father died.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Yeah. And that's when they approached him. And next thing, he left his family here and went over there and he shot those films. Because in China, the fact that there was a Chinese guy on an American show, Kato. They know who he was. He was huge in China. He was huge in China. From a shitty little show, he was fucking huge.
Starting point is 00:47:16 He was a hero. He shows up in China, and that's when the movie houses started. Raymond Chow, I think, was his name. He signed him and started. And the first movie, he was supposed to be a co-star. First movie, he wasn't the main guy. But after a couple weeks of filming, and he just fucking took over the camera work and the fight choreography.
Starting point is 00:47:38 So the producer said, okay, we're going to rewrite the script a little bit. This motherfucker, this guy is going to be the star. They changed it in the first movie. He just took over. They're like, oh, shit, that's the motherfucking man. So they redid everything. And then from that point on, it was just, he was on an ascension to, like, fucking. But that, you see how now, like, people eat assaye bowls.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Right. People would eat outside bowls. They wouldn't give a fucking good shit. But since it's a Brazilian jih Tzu thing, people eat them. It's a Brazilian culture thing. Right. Well, the same thing. happened in this country and Bruce Lee took
Starting point is 00:48:17 over. And I said it one time in the Arii thing. He represented all immigrants. So I want you to think of a different time. You know, you had Charles Bronson. What colors Charles Bronson? White as shit. What colors Cornice was?
Starting point is 00:48:33 Same thing. You know, so we really didn't have, we had shaft. Black people had shaft. Chico and the man. Chico and the man came in 78, 78. you know 77 but right that when bruce lee came along he represented everybody who was the little guy hope
Starting point is 00:48:54 he represented something else but what all the other thing you saw was martial arts was became fucking huge like i saw a magazine black belt go from 30 pages to 100 you know like now people were into it judo schools were opening up Kung Fu schools are opening up. Karate schools were opening up. Taekwondo schools were still, nobody was still into Taekwondo. Taekwondo is that dude down the corner. They charge 85 instead of 100.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Not even. It's bullshit. I think I paid 50 to go to Goshen Roo Karate in those days, unlimited. But it made everybody more aware. You know, everybody wanted to be. It's funny because they were talking about gym wars. you know people always talk about the gym wars that you know down in brazil and AT&T and fucking uh and uh what's this other one up here aka you know and i remember that in our neighborhood which is much like eddies in a lot of ways not everybody went to the same karate school so Mario Diaz went to food job pie kung fu uh this other kid from up the block went to like goju karate
Starting point is 00:50:12 I went to Goshenru and this kid Glenn Colon was a black belt and three things at the time and everybody would eat dinner and we meet at Mario Diaz was a Chinese Cuban kid. His last name was spelled with an E
Starting point is 00:50:27 and we would go to his basement and we'd each do a form somebody would teach a form from their school like on Mondays Eddie you teach something today that on Wednesday you would teach something so we'd all learn something from each other's school and then after about an hour with Eddie
Starting point is 00:50:45 it was on it was on when you're 12 and 13 you don't feel dick it was on we broke those walls we threw each other to the old sheet rock walls he wouldn't let the father down there he would have to put boxes
Starting point is 00:51:00 around the wall I'll never forget he called me one day because it's over my father found there was holes everywhere we used to hang the maki rahors up you know what they are Maki Haramaki Rawhara is a skinny thing with a little two-inch thing and you stand in front of it and throw fucking punches and shit. So we had all the beams all fucked up. We tried to hang a heavy bag down there.
Starting point is 00:51:26 But the point of story is, Eddie, I used to leave there bleeding from my mouth every fucking night. Like they would fuck you up. You know, a little bit fight club. It was a fight club without black eyes and shit like that. You know, what would happen is. you would be light sparring. Okay. And all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:51:43 Eddie would kick me a little harder than what he's been kicking me. You know what I'm saying? So now I got to hit Eddie a little harder to just let him know. And now it becomes this, and there was no head gear. There was no hanged things.
Starting point is 00:51:56 It was just us. No mouthguards? Mouth guards, yes. Oh, really? Okay. Mouth guards, yes. But it's just so crazy. I went through that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I swallowed a growth. No Brazilian jiu jitza. None. The most. foreign thing there was, there was a black dude in the Bronx that taught Cevatt, the French kicking art of kicking.
Starting point is 00:52:18 That was as crazy as it got. How crazy is it that even during that time, in Brazil jiu jiu jutsu was huge. You know? All through, I mean, the whole, you know, I guess from the 20s on, really, that was a Brazilian jiu jihitsu scene
Starting point is 00:52:34 going on, and the world did not know about this. But America had not seen it. America had not seen. it. But if you really watch Chinese connection, he gets Bruce Lee and an arm bar and Bruce Lee bites his way out.
Starting point is 00:52:48 No, no, no. In the Chinese connection and enter the dragon in the first scene. He puts a dude in an armbard. It puts a dude in an armbar. It was a shitty arm bar. Whatever it was. You could see that he was in the ground. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You could see that he was already knew what it
Starting point is 00:53:04 was. Yeah. I wonder if he knew what the Brazilians were doing. I wonder if he knew about every heard about the grace. He had to have, right? He was this famous martial artist. He hung out with the most famous of people. He had to have known a Brabara's on Jutza, but he learned, for sure, he learned some grappling from Jean LeBelle. He learned a lot of grappling. There's, like, famous stories where him and Gene were kind of fucking around, and Gene LeBelle kind of just tossed him up a little bit with grappling. Tell me if I'm wrong, but how is it, is it okay to compare Bruce Lee to Hoyler for the U of
Starting point is 00:53:40 because I was watching like that look back because I don't I didn't see that whole other match I don't know anything about it The big question The big question is Bruce Lee The demonstrations Okay
Starting point is 00:53:52 He did the one inch punch And he must have done a lot of the things Bruce Lee was a great martial artist For the movies And nobody ever saw him fight in the ring You know Never in the ring But he did fight people on set
Starting point is 00:54:06 Because a lot of the got The extras were actual actual actual fighters and they try to challenge him and there's been many stories where he fucked people up like for real like but not in a sport in a cage or in a ring or anything like
Starting point is 00:54:20 he wasn't into that there wasn't no fucking phones with cameras so nobody ever got to see those before it so when when you look at Bruce Lee you have to look at Bruce Lee through two different sets of eyes the reason why it's very hard to sell Bruce Lee to somebody of your age
Starting point is 00:54:36 is because he's just a Chinese guy that's a martial obviously. He did three movies. His kicks were tremendous, whatever, but the production value and shit stuns you a little bit as a young guy. Hey, when I was 20, I would not even think of watching a black and white
Starting point is 00:54:52 movie. The only black and white thing I watched was the Honeymovers. Twilight Zone. The Twilight Zone. But that's, for me, if somebody came to me and said, I want to start watching movies, give me 10 movies. I would recommend Chinese connection.
Starting point is 00:55:09 and then to the dragon. Definitely. Without even fucking thinking twice because they had to see it. But they would go, yeah, it was great. Bruce Lee was great. The other end of Bruce Lee was because he opened up a big spectrum in this country.
Starting point is 00:55:23 He gave people little guys a chance. Little guys joined karate. Karate schools went from having three students to 25 fucking students. Tournaments started flourishing, you know, flourishing. You know, the classes were packed.
Starting point is 00:55:41 It was all the impact of Bruce Lee. All those little sayings he would say and everything. When Bruce Lee died, that was a hard time for me in my house. Already I was going to Chinatown and buying the white shirts with the blue and the shoes. Where would you wear those? Just out? Everywhere. To school.
Starting point is 00:56:02 They thought I was fucking retarded. I can't believe you were. I would wear them to my mom's bar. I would get goofed on by the customers at the bar. I didn't give it. fuck Eddie. I loved it. I loved the whole thing when it stood for. It made people get out of the
Starting point is 00:56:17 house and work out, you know, and made people throw kicks. It also made people go crazy like USC crazy. You know, everybody you got into a pushing match then, got into a cat stance and wanted to throw a karate kick at you. So now
Starting point is 00:56:32 you're like, Jesus fucking Christ, everybody I'm fighting is a fucking black belt. And they really weren't. They were all just doing what they were mimicking from the movies, you know. Right. And that's more what I meant with Hoyler is just the... I mean, Hoyse.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Hoyer's his brother. Hoyer's his brother. Hoyer's with the just like the feeling around it, getting like getting people excited about it, getting people going to juditia classes like that. Yeah, Hoyce definitely changed the world like in a whole different kind of way. He, the first UFC I saw, I was doing karate and I immediately dropped it and started doing Jiu-Jitsu, like that just blew Jiu-Jitsu out the water
Starting point is 00:57:15 would hoist it. That was revolutionary. I mean, I mean, it's been going on with yourself forever. We didn't know about it. Nobody knew about it. He came along and gave martial arts even a broader view. People had been coming over the years
Starting point is 00:57:32 and giving little peaks into different styles of martial arts or martial arts they developed. But he really you know fucking uh gave it a different view
Starting point is 00:57:45 this is jujitsu here's this guy that's Joe Dia's his size and he's on top whatever and this guy gets out of it and then triangles the guy I don't know what the fuck
Starting point is 00:57:57 the moves he was doing but that's what I saw and I'm like that's fucking amazing even though there's no striking because that must be hard especially no striking there's no striking in juditsu with like Bruce Lee
Starting point is 00:58:09 you get it's like it's a little bit more visually exciting even if you don't know anything about karate but no hoist gracie was the first guy in the ufs first ufc champion right no no no obviously in the ufc yes i'm just i just meant jujitsu as an art yeah there's no punching jiu jitsu as an art as a sport
Starting point is 00:58:27 because you brain damage you know right most people 99 999 9999 of the world including myself they don't want to go into a goddamn cage and go to very few people have the balls to do that. But the rest of the world still appreciates the martial arts
Starting point is 00:58:48 and jiu-jitsu especially if they're into it. So jiu-jitsu is a way to it's like playing again. It's like wrestling, but instead of wrestling, the objective is to panic eyes shoulders to the ground for three seconds, jiu-jitsu, it's sort of like that except the goal is to
Starting point is 00:59:05 make someone tap out. And when you make someone tap out, it's because you put them in a chokehold or some kind of joint lock. And that, you know, although there's no striking, just that alone is pretty badass. Because you got, you know, the game of trying to make someone tap out is, it's incredible. You get addicted to it and you get obsessed with it because the better you get at that game, that game translates the real life. Even though there's no striking in the dojo, I'll put, you know, if you do jiu-jitsu for a couple of years,
Starting point is 00:59:35 the odds are in a street fight against a guy who doesn't do jiu-jitsu. The odds are so much in your favor. So much. Even though you've never thrown a strike in the dojo. No punches, no elbows, but you've been doing Jiu-Jitsu for two years on the street. Even though they're risk striking, if your jiu-jitsu is on point, you're not going to need striking to immobilize, you know, this douchebag, you know? I hate to talk about this on the show because I don't like to centralize the show.
Starting point is 01:00:03 If you watched Anderson against Daniel Cornmeal. last night. You know, everybody's saying that Daniel Kormier should have done a lot more damage. His Jiu-Jitsu kept throwing his balance off. Anderson Silva's Jiu-Suh? Yeah, Anderson-Silver's J-Gur-Wong. He got him in the lockdown
Starting point is 01:00:24 throw a lot of things. I don't understand all the other variations of his style of J-Jitsu, but I saw that, but I saw that he kept around his balance-off. You know, just that tech, just that little thing about Jiu-Jitsu. He's been doing Jiu-Jitsu, I don't know on hand. This is so, but
Starting point is 01:00:42 20 years. Something like, nah, I don't know about 20. I would say more like 15. Let's say 15. Jesus Christ, in Brazil. Do you know what he knows, Lee? Even if you break both his wrist and he grabs your legs like that.
Starting point is 01:00:58 He survived. He survived. He lost the fight, but you know what? He didn't get knocked out. He didn't get hurt. His jiuetsu helped him survive. Well, don't you think that is also just to point out how good Korme is that he held down Anderson? Like, I don't think that...
Starting point is 01:01:13 Korme is an Olympic wrestler. Right, yeah, he's a... So he did, by getting on top, by taking Anderson Silva down, jujitsu isn't the art of not getting taken down. So if it was, if Jiu Jitsu was the art of not getting taken down against wrestling,
Starting point is 01:01:27 which is the art of taking someone down, then yes, Daniel Kormier beat Anderson style. But that's not the style. The style, jiu-jitsu is just get the fight to on the ground. It's better to be on top. But if you're on your back and your jiu-jitsu is decent, you still got game. And here is, you can look at it.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Make no mistake about it. Daniel Cormair beat Anderson-Silva, but he didn't finish him. And Anderson-Silva is mostly known for striking. His jiu-jitsu is like, oh, he's his backup plan. He's never trying to do jiu-jitsu. He was a striker who started learning jiu-jitsu because he was in M-M-A. You have to. but that's not his forteus.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Forteus striking. But he knew Jiu-Jitsu good enough, and he is a black belt, to survive an Olympic wrestler's onslaught of strikes. Daniel Karmia could have thrown as many elbows to the face as he wanted to. You could have punched him a thousand times in the face if he wanted to. You could have taken him down him just, but he didn't. He took him down and got wrapped up and tied up, and it wasn't some rand-up tie-ups.
Starting point is 01:02:30 It was specific jiu-jitsu tie-ups to survive. Some guy trying to bash you down. some giant Olympic wrestler wanted to if he could have put 10 elbows right through Anderson's face he would have did it but he couldn't I mean I
Starting point is 01:02:47 found the fight it wasn't as entertaining as I would have liked it but there was no difference between that fight and the Rock Lesnar fight yeah you're right it wasn't it wasn't very entertaining at all again that's not I was talking about survival the survival that he did entertainment yeah it was pretty
Starting point is 01:03:05 I wasn't if if if if fucko would have done what Anderson did in half guard and did the lockdown he wouldn't have got punched in the face 15 times right because the kid wouldn't be able to set up he would not be able to fucking set up first of all he's got a fucking mountain for his stomach right away you're off balance right away you're off balance so if he would have locked his knees together and just fucking hip bump himself he would have had a mount again right when he's going to throw a point, fucking hip bumping him again. Right. Hip bump him again. That's what Anderson was doing.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Anderson was picking him up. He was two inches away. He can't go back and hit him. When somebody comes to me and they go, what do you think of this fight? I repeat you that guy. And I always go with the guy who's got the black belt and jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 01:03:54 If he's got some fucking coral stripes, I even go with him more. Because I know he's been in hell. I know he's been in hell. He's been in hell. a thousand times. Those guys are in fucking hell. Once you see him at the brown belt level,
Starting point is 01:04:08 they're not even breathing heavy. Eddie doesn't even breathe it. Eddie teaches and fucking looks around like a Momo and looking. And, you know, that's just a complete different gift. So I always used that. I knew. I either thought Anderson was going to go out there and knock him the fuck out or they were going to ground him down until he got him down.
Starting point is 01:04:29 And I could see that he wouldn't let him. He's a fucking professional. Anderson Silva wasn't the champion for seven years because he sucked guys. Right. Okay, so that's what, you know, the advantage is. Even as a fucking blue belt, you can throw people with balance off. Once you get to the brown belt level, that's the first thing that goes is your balance. You're like, what the fuck am I doing all the way over here?
Starting point is 01:04:52 I'm across the fucking room. It's just a beautiful art. It's just a beautiful fucking art. How many stripes you got on your belt right now? Three. You got three stripes. But I'm terrible. You're almost good today.
Starting point is 01:05:06 You're almost good today. You're almost, you're trying today? You're fucking shit. What? Did you get a submission today? No, I did something better than submission. Would you do pass? Two deep half fucking flings.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Part of my deep half is I throw the motherfuckers. None wrong with that. I'm not holding on to them and recovering my guard. That's what I should be doing, get them into side control. from that fucking... So once you're sweeping, what happens? They're three feet away from me. But you're not on top
Starting point is 01:05:36 and you sweep them, but you don't get on top and control them? They're three feet away from me. They land three feet away from me. I've got to figure something the fuck. You got to try to tell you. You got to not use so much power. So I clinch my knees, and I mess around with them, and I try
Starting point is 01:05:51 to control them with my knees, clenched, and then they fall for the bait, and I stick my hand under that leg, and I pick them up, and I try to get the leg, and I hide this arm, and then I walk this way and then I spin real fucking quick. But that little spin has been throwing them up my loop
Starting point is 01:06:06 and I got to start all over again. Man, I want to see video you rolling, man. I want to see... No, it's terrible. Horrifically bad. Horrifically bad. Oh, come on. Oh, horrifically bad. But you know what? Man, I'm going to do the surgery to breathe a little better. I think I'm going to go see a nutrition and really work it down
Starting point is 01:06:23 to the centimeter. Do you generally get a submission each time you roll? One? Maybe one. Every other class? One. One. At least. I'm going for submissions. Which is the submission that you get more often? The most popular submission I go on is I trick people with the... I love the college show.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I'm a fat dude. So I ain't doing much out of the ordinary. My game is not going to be much of the ordinary. So I try to put one hook into your right side. And then I fake. Like, I'm going to go for the fucking arm. bar and I pull and before he
Starting point is 01:07:04 knows it I get my other hook in there and I let my leg help in my guard and I swing to that sound like a fucking gorilla so it's 300 pounds hanging on your neck anyway and I just try to sneak my hand up every time I go for an arm bar fuck it up do you ever get that bow and arrow choke from the back
Starting point is 01:07:24 you ever do that one you ever get someone's back and choke them it's funny the other day I was on Joe's podcast and we were talking about my Roy Nelson doesn't get people's back when you're a heavy guy it's very hard to get people's back this really gets in the way so you're very rarely I don't know I haven't never really seen a big heavier type guy take a lot of backs you know it's too many steps even the arm bar is too many steps for me if I got you in that compromise
Starting point is 01:07:53 sometimes I put my knee over your belly but it's to trick you into a Camorra I don't really go for arm bars I don't like drop on my back like that besides if I get you right I might break your arm by mistakes so I don't even fuck with those I like triangles that's what I have to do fake the arm bar and go for triangles I got strong legs from the mount from the bottom I'm trying to work on the bottom yeah I don't like nothing on top to me that's not what I got involved in the art for the art for me was to learning to be really good from the bottom you know to learn to be really good from the bottom every time I'm in class, I always take the quickest people. And they pass my guard and fuck me up, but I don't give a fuck, because eventually I'm going to get them. I'm going to figure out how to do my legs and give me my extra inch.
Starting point is 01:08:43 You know, Matt Baker, your buddy has a good point. If you're not on your back, they can't pass your guard. So it's kind of weird. I'm trying to put all that stuff together. So nice. It's a journey for me, man. But at the same time, it's helping my stand up, and it's helping
Starting point is 01:08:59 me because, like I told somebody else I was sitting here, when you When you go to karate, you fucking figure out you can't throw a kick six feet. So your coach says on the weekends hang a hook on your fucking roof and put a strap and hang your leg and stretch your legs a little more. You don't have enough punching power in karate if you're a Cucas and karate guy. So they make you do bench presses and hit more stuff, you know. When I joined Jiu-Jitsu, I found out I couldn't do a lot of those stuff that was physically.
Starting point is 01:09:33 But the mental part of it was the part that I was really disappointed with myself because I had this fear of people on top of me. And that's the worst thing I hate is when I have fear or something. Some things you have fear of and you put them together in your head and you go, you know what? I can deal with that when it comes with. But somebody getting on top of you, that can happen any day when you're walking on the street with your daughter and your wife and your child.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And what are you going to do? You're not going to know what to do. I'm going into my 50s. There's no way I'm going to karate chop you doing a flying sidekick through the fucking hell. But if I could single you and throw you down and get on top of you, put my
Starting point is 01:10:15 shoulder on you and put my forearm in your neck, I got three minutes to get to the car before you even see your Adam's apples coming out of your fucking asshole. You know, breaking somebody's arm real quick and getting in the car. I like those little things about Jiu Jitsu, choking somebody,
Starting point is 01:10:31 you could choke somebody with a the jacket. It's a collard choke. Yep. T-shirt. It's a college show, you know, with a fucking t-shirt. So these are all the things that I'm getting older that I didn't want to have those fears.
Starting point is 01:10:46 I didn't know that my cardio was just horrific from smoking reaper and becoming a vertical breather. I had no idea about these things that popped up in my life at 40. There's no way I could be a father and have these shortcomings. There was no way.
Starting point is 01:11:00 What the way? The shape of the world today. I got to be able to run 10 minutes. I'm at a park and they start shooting, Eddie. You got to pick your kid up and run with that fucking, she's 50 fucking pounds or something. She's a human kettlebell. So what I do is when I walk her to school,
Starting point is 01:11:16 I pick her up and I walk with her this first block. And my goal is to make it to the office. I don't even make it to the office, but I make it like three doors down and shit like that. Because those are the fears I couldn't have with a daughter. man it's it's amazing hearing i didn't really uh know this before me you're really you're really
Starting point is 01:11:37 looking at at fatherhood in um in a super realistic way like you know what i mean you got to you now you got a daughter you got to be able to protect her but you know that's what i tell people all the time like just at the very least there's a lot of things you could do you can learn jiu jitsu for but at the very least to protect your family at the very least you want to protect your family if some shit goes down You're out at the movies. You're in line. You're with your kid.
Starting point is 01:12:03 There's a fucking douchebag and something's going down. I mean, who knows if the jiu jitza is going to work all the time, but you got to do what you got to do or can do to shift the odds in your favor. And just one year of jih Tijuana, just one year and time flies so fast. How many times in the UFC? I don't even, I'm the name two off the bat. How many times have you seen somebody take a punch get over something? body, overcommit, and get trapped in an arm bar.
Starting point is 01:12:34 I've seen two. How about you? Few times. Radar against Redoom. And Joe Lozahn had one. That was textbook. I think against the black kid. Like an arm bar from the guard? Is that what you're talking about? But after I punch you in the fucking mouth, hard, I go backwards. I hold on to that arm right there as I'm going back.
Starting point is 01:13:00 I pull you into me. I overcommit you. You're like, you fucking idiot. You grab my wrist. I start hitting you with this, and I've seen Joe Loz on arm bar somebody when he's getting beat the fuck up. And I also seen Fadol punching away
Starting point is 01:13:14 and fucking Verduny nailed him with an arm bar. Nogera and Mark Coleman. There you go. So I figured that that's a great protection thing right there. You could take one punch, which we all can, and fall backwards, and suck this guy in,
Starting point is 01:13:29 and for him to grab you with three, beers in him or whatever the fuck drug he has in him he doesn't even see your hand going around and pulling your elbow and next thing you know your leg swings around and you fucking lean back and pick up your hips and you hear ah you fuck
Starting point is 01:13:46 you fuck you pull your leg around you stick your boot in his fucking mouth and you kick the rest of his fucking teeth out while he's yelling and shock you get in your car and you go on nobody knows nothing you pull three blocks away you see a homeless doing the trade of sneakers hey about a brand new pair of it. They got a red stripe that means you're a fucking animal, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:07 And you have to look at little things like that when you have a family. And when you get older, you don't want no fears. I didn't want no fucking fears every time I got on my back. I would think the world was that thing any problem. I thought the world was that thing any problem. You did a lot of working out and athletic stuff when you were younger. You always say you wish you did you did Tia and you were younger. Why do you think you didn't do it?
Starting point is 01:14:31 Or something. It wasn't available. Nothing. You didn't. Jitsu became available. 93, 94. Not for me. I lived in Boulder at that time, and I was taking Taekwana, Teng Sudo,
Starting point is 01:14:44 or Muda Kwan. It wasn't available yet in Boulder. It didn't become available to me until I moved to Los Angeles. And then a year later, I met you. It became available to me, but I don't know what the fuck you were talking about. It's between doing a fucking unborn, snort and coke. Your arm's going to be. to work tonight. I'm saying. I ain't fucking
Starting point is 01:15:03 coming down to add 6.30 at night. Having a kid will make you think about stuff like that, though, for sure. I mean, I remember taking Draco when he's one even younger, just in a stroller every day taking him for a walk, and there was
Starting point is 01:15:19 this one dog that was behind a fence in our neighborhood that would come up and bark, and man, it was a German shepherd. The thing would probably fuck me up. But when My son's there, there'd be no fear. I could just imagine just grabbing that dog's jaw and just breaking it open.
Starting point is 01:15:40 You know what I mean? Like, when you have a kid, there is no fear. If Mike Tyson came up to you and fucked with your kid, you'd jump on that motherfucker without a hesitation. There wouldn't even be a delay, you know? When you have a kid, you just jump in and you just go to war or die. Well, for me, it was a lot of other things. It was, I was getting a kid.
Starting point is 01:16:01 so I wanted a new beginning for myself of doing something. And I also wanted to do something that was hard for me. That wasn't easy. The last thing I ever did that was hard for me was comedy. That just wasn't easy. You know, today I woke up this morning. I got up early. I did some right and I got really stoned.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And I, my fucking knee got tight. My wife left for church. I went to the weed store. I went to CVS to pick up my peasant. prescriptions. Then I went to the weed store, but I left my cell phone on the car. And, uh, you know, I'm getting surgery tomorrow. I may have to take two weeks from jih Tzu, Eddie. I can't tell you how bad I feel because I've been on a roll for the last six months over there. On a roll, on a roll. Like, not killing people, but at least I'm showing up. Yeah. It's been consistent, you know, nothing like being consistent. He sees me
Starting point is 01:16:57 twice a week if I'm in town, three times if I'm fucking not working. Four times. You're not working. Four times. if the Sunday class, because the Sunday class is my favorite class, because I always learned something small. You know what I'm saying? Like last Sunday, I learned how to do a proper hip escape after three fucking years. Like, I always learned something small, stupid, but that's how good that guy is on Sundays. And now I've got to take off for two weeks, which means I'm going to be huffing and fucking puffing and popping all over again now when I go and get in anxiety. That's the last thing I wanted to fucking do. I always saw wanted my daughter
Starting point is 01:17:34 to be old enough and for me to show my daughter that I was doing something. You know what I'm saying? That three days a week I have a responsibility to do something. And she'll say eventually, where the fuck do you go? And you have to explain to how you go to Jitsu. And then she'll say
Starting point is 01:17:50 let me come with you one time. And you go down there and she sees it and maybe she'll get involved in something. Maybe it's not Jiu Jitsu. Maybe it's Taekwondo. but at least you're setting an example for your child. Yeah, I'm saying? Yeah. It was all those little
Starting point is 01:18:05 variables, man. I wanted to do something I had never done before. I'm not going to go wrestle. I can't get thrown down. I tell that I'm on 300 fucking bounds. I'm not going to go learn how to shoot a bow and arrow because I don't want to go fucking hunting for a week and kill animals and
Starting point is 01:18:21 shit. So I had to find something else. I had to find something close to my house. I had to find something that wasn't a very competitive school. where people are going to go and take my fucking head off and break my arm. I can't work. I can't fucking work with a broken arm. An accident's happening.
Starting point is 01:18:37 You know what I'm saying? The accident fucking happened. You land wrong, your wrist. And jiu-jitsu is the answer for me, I think. You know? And I'm too old to do no fucking gie. They'll kill me. I see those people.
Starting point is 01:18:49 I did it one time by all this. They grabbed my neck. My whole body stopped. That's a time I put the fucking 2x rash guard. And that tapped me out. A fucking 2x That's how fat I was A 2X rash guard
Starting point is 01:19:03 Tap me out I had to have all to come in the back And take it off I can't fucking breathe With this goddamn thing It's funny But I enjoy it As you saw
Starting point is 01:19:11 I brought copies of Jiu-Jitsu magazine I read that on planes Like an asshole And I look at little moves And I basically get it For the diets in there Little nourishment tips I got
Starting point is 01:19:21 Get really good nourishment tips in there Everything else I can't do what Andre Galval does You know what I look at I go That's great Thanks for the move, Andre. I can't do that type of shit.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Where's Tony Bennett, cocksucker? You can take a little break? What? You didn't take a little break? No, we just do this. Ten minutes and we come back with a new subject, wait. Oh, let me go pee again. Jesus Christ, Almighty.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Jesus Christ, because you're drinking beers, cocksucker. You got to take little sips of water. Are you ready for another start? Absolutely. Fuck, yeah. As you used to do with me. You got to eat these stars. I can't be eating stars this week.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Maybe Wednesday will eat some stars. That's going to be, you have to wait until Wednesday? I don't know. Let's see what I feel. I was going to say that's good. Let me give some shout out to my main man, the Lalingis's. Uki-Spochuki, always getting my back, that sexy bitch. I saw your boy, Freddie Correa in Vegas with his beautiful wife.
Starting point is 01:20:49 My man, one-by-one podcast holding it down. Tracy up there in Canada looking sexy and a motherfucker. Crystal Johnson looking sexy. My main man, Timmy Holloway and Timmy Jr. Mike Land and my man Raymond Basio, son of the fucking greatest drummer, Terry Basio. I'm going to give you a fucking shout out to. Don't forget the next.
Starting point is 01:21:15 No Expectations tour. Start 7th, July 21st. I'm flappers in the Yul Room, 50 people. I'm just going to be trying out my shit. If you can make it come down and not, I'm doing it to get in the following week. I will announce the rest of those fucking dates. How's that for you?
Starting point is 01:21:33 Very exciting. It's going to be interesting watching you build a special. I'm very excited about it. Well, the set I had in Vegas on Friday wasn't that good. I tried some new stuff. it's missing the Diaz umf so I gotta find something with more fucking umph norton you ain't umph and hard enough
Starting point is 01:21:55 but just from the surgery you've been pissing this much or this is always I don't know maybe it is a surgery I don't know but fuck I always piss a lot so the other day I'm reading an article on BJJ uh Jiu Jitsu in the magazine and they're talking about different
Starting point is 01:22:20 tournaments. First off, congratulations on EBI. Thank you very much. Saturday night at 7 o'clock. Yep. Pacific Standard time on UFC Fight Pass. And that's where they could order it. That's where they can pay it or whatever in order it. You could, if you have UFC Five Pass, it's free.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Or if you just, if you don't want UFC Fight Pass and you want just to watch EBI, you can order it at UFC.tv one-time deal. I think it's $999. You don't have to commit to Fight Pass. You've got animals again. this year. Eddie Cummings. Yeah, we're doing the feather weights for EBI 7. Eddie Cummings is the champ.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Gio Martinez is coming back. He's the former champ. Joe Soto's coming back. He was in the finals when Cummings got the belt. Raphael Domingos is dropping down to 45. Denny Procopos is dropping down to 45. We got the return of Bill Cooper. He was the baddest American Jiu-Jitsu player, you know, 8, 10 years ago.
Starting point is 01:23:18 And he's back. He's in incredible shape. Aura Maradian, who's a go-court Chevichian's top featherweight, super leglock guy. You got Chad George, who's a black belt slash MMA fighter. Barrett Rashid is going to be in there. Alex Eklund. Oh, Mikey Main. Sergio Hernandez, who has the craziest style ever.
Starting point is 01:23:41 He's got Eddie Cummings first round. Sergio Hernandez and Eddie Cummins. The first fight of the night is going to be insane. Sergio Hernandez has got a style that no one. and can prepare for. I mean, he's just donkey guard slash rubber side mount slash reverse closed guard.
Starting point is 01:23:57 I've rolled with the guy. It's insane. His styles, the first match, EBI 7 next Saturday on Fight Pass is going to be fucking crazy. And plus, we have some special matches with the return of Grace Gundrum. I'm trying to find the best girls to go to the best girls for
Starting point is 01:24:13 How old is Grace not? She's 13. She's crazy. So we got, you know, Raphael Mendez is right now, the best jiu-jitsu guy on the planet, his prodigy, Janelle Takachik, that's the best girl I could find, and that's the best school around right now as far as like the IBJF tournaments. She's going to jump in, and we're going to see how she does against Grace.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Maybe Grace gets smoked. I don't know. I'm on a quest to find out how good Grace really is, because she just amazes me with her skill and her decision-making and her technique. It's pretty crazy that a 13-year-old girl can be. She's like a virtuoso, You know, those 13-old violets who shred.
Starting point is 01:24:52 They don't shred for a 13-year-old. They shred period. They're just amazing. And that's what she is. She's a jiu-jitsu prodigy, and we'll see how good she really is against A.O.J., the art of jih Tzu, Raphael Mendez School, their best 13-year-old. And that's going to be right before the finals. Who knows who's going to be in the finals of the guy tournament?
Starting point is 01:25:13 It could be Eddie Cummings versus Joe Soto or Gio Martinez or Barry Ishida. But right before we find out the champion of that night, which there's $20,000 up for the, that's the grand prize, we're going to see Grace Gundrum versus Janelle Takachuk. That right there is going to, that could steal the whole show right there. Now, in your wildest imaginations, did you ever think there was even going to be in the EBI 7? No, man, I really didn't. I didn't know there'd be an EBI too. I didn't. I was never planning to be a fight prize.
Starting point is 01:25:49 motor type guy. It just fucking happened. I just fell right into it. Just started a, just trying to think of a rule set in Jiu-Jitsu that would be entertaining for the average UFC fan. The average guy that doesn't train Jiu-Jitsu likes to UFC, there's millions and millions and millions of UFC fans. Jiu-Jitsu is a huge part of the UFC. Why isn't there any UFC or Jiu-Jitsu shows that can, you know, cater to like 10% of those UFC fans. We're like 15, 20%, but in reality, it's less than 1%
Starting point is 01:26:24 of UFC fans are interested in Jiu-Jitsu show. And for me, I think the reason is the point system. A point system is not fan-friendly. It's great to develop skills,
Starting point is 01:26:37 certain skills like guard passing and sweeping. The point system really emphasizes that. That's the most important part of the point game is those sweeps and those passes. That's got to be fucking on point you want to win.
Starting point is 01:26:49 points championship and which is a beautiful thing sweeping and passing it's huge super important you enuminated that no no no mission only oh you do get points for no no you don't get any point right you don't get passing is still important but you don't get points for it right you don't get points for you eliminate it's a mission only yeah it's no points at all which is really interesting because I like I said I read an article in there that you could break down for me a little more because I don't know Jiu lingo and I said that they're doing more tournaments I with EBI rules and I was like fucking Eddie's on to something if all these people are doing I think there's two other tournaments happening with EBI rules there's a lot of tournaments that have adopted EBI there's a bunch there's a bunch and I I want them to use it use it I don't own those rules just use it let's let's make Jiu Jitsu fun again you know because really submission only is what Jiu Jitsu really is when you when you train Jiu Jitsu at your school no one's keeping track of points you're trying to submit each other It's submission only is not new.
Starting point is 01:27:49 It's what jiu-jitsu is. It's the essence of jiu-jitsu. The point system, that's like unnatural jiu-jitsu. But again, the point system, I believe, is important because it does stresses certain skills. And passing and sweeping is very important. So do points tournaments to focus on those very important parts of jiu-jitsu. Keep that.
Starting point is 01:28:09 I'm not trying to stomp out point tournaments. I think point tournaments are important. But they're just not fan-framing. You can't put points tournaments on TV. like chess. I always use this analogy. Chess is a very cerebral game, very prestigious, noble people play chess, kings and queens play chess, but you just can't put chess on TV.
Starting point is 01:28:26 You're not going to put the world champion. I can ask you a question. How long is EBI? What do you mean the show? How long is the production of EBI? Like one show is... Give me red on round ball again. Give me a pistol Pete or Julius serving.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I don't give a fuck who you get me. Just give me a red on round ball. How long is the whole production show? of, because this is the problem I have. How long is the whole production of E. It could be any, we've had shows that it lasted two and a half hours. Okay, I'm a downtown in between.
Starting point is 01:28:59 How much downtime in between? We generally not that much downtime at all. We just, we bang them out, we go, pop, pop, we don't have time, no waste. I go to your fucking EBI. It's exciting. It's in a beautiful theater. The lighting is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:29:16 But after the first whistle, I'm just sitting there watching Chinese because I'm not up to that advanced part of Jiu-Jitsu. There's nothing wrong with you or anybody. I just don't really know much about let loss. I don't like people touching my fucking feet. That's why I'll never become a blue belt. I'll stall that white belt for the next 10 fucking years. I'll get four and a half and three-quarter stripes. You understand me?
Starting point is 01:29:41 Yeah. I just don't like it. I don't know. I just don't like people touching my feet. I got fungi on the toe. You don't touch my foot. I won't touch your feet. Hit it, Lee.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Now, it's so funny that, uh, uh, uh, Oh, it right there. Before we tell you why, these thumbs are down, the hands are extended. This is Pete Maravich, the greatest playmaker and passer in the game today.
Starting point is 01:30:09 From Theo Vrons' hometown. Also playing with the New Orleans jazz. Notice. the fingers. Notice the wrist. Notice the hand. It's firm, finger spread, follow through. Just on a simple chest pass. Now, Pete, in throwing that pass, do you really think about that when you do it, or does it become automatic? Well, actually, it becomes automatic, but three basic ingredients in throwing any type of pass is fingertip control, backspin, and follow through. Do me a favor, Eddie. Yeah. Give me an intro and give me three moves. A minute of piece.
Starting point is 01:30:46 in between the fucking fights. Oh, what leg locks are? Yeah, I see what you're saying. One minute apiece for a guy like me. So if I go to Jiu-Jitsu, when I'm telling you, I'm confused, I love the game. Well, the leg locks, see, the thing is
Starting point is 01:31:00 with submission only, the main difference between submission only and the points game is generally in the point community, the leg locks are frowned upon. They don't like leg locks. In the what community? I'm sorry. But the average BJJ school is not into leg locks.
Starting point is 01:31:19 They don't teach leg locks. They look at them as too dangerous, dirty. They teach them, but they don't emphasize it. They don't teach them or emphasize it. I go to your school as a purple belt. I learned this curriculum from Scott Ross, Scott Myers, whenever it was fucking famous with the glasses. I go to your advanced classes.
Starting point is 01:31:37 I get a brown belt. My leg locks are good. I go to Cabrini. Okay. Will I be fucking them up with my leg locks And my style of Jiu-Jitsu With those leg locks You know, it all depends
Starting point is 01:31:49 You know Does he work? I mean, does he work on a lot of leg locks In his school? They don't know They don't Because in the points tournaments They're illegal
Starting point is 01:31:56 So it's a waste of time So if I put a guy on And went to an IBGGF tournament And I got a heel hook No good It's illegal You get disqualified No shit
Starting point is 01:32:08 Yeah You can attack the legs So I can't do that move Where I put on And do a Camora and twist. On your leg, nope.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Even if I'm a purple belt. Uh-uh. No, it's illegal, generally. When does it start become legal? You could do toeholds,
Starting point is 01:32:22 I think, as a black belt. You could do knee bars. You could do nothing twisting and no reaping the leg. But in submission only, you could do everything. This is what you need to do.
Starting point is 01:32:33 How you doing? My name is Eddie Bravo. The 10th plan systems is a little different and advanced in more systems. Let me show you the basic like what. Boom. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Come back. Defense for the best. Like, why do they spend? I don't even know what the fuck they spend. And they're both holding each other's foot. What the fuck? I'm like, I got to hold your foot and spin all these little things. That's them for me in 30 seconds.
Starting point is 01:32:58 And put them up. It's hard to do in 30 seconds. How about a fucking minute? You're right. You're right. That's a great idea. Just say it and then let's edit it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:06 It's like Twitter. Yeah. When I get on Twitter in the morning, I got your fuck your mother in the ass. I hope bazookas. But then you got a hundred hundred 80 characters. You got to start chopping that A and that D and that B and eliminate that comma. It's the same thing with these until the person gets educated. That's where you'll have over any other people.
Starting point is 01:33:27 You know, and it's like, all right, I'm switching to the chat. I got to think of BJJ in 2016 is a cuntail away from being on Sports Center at 2 in the morning. If I got to sit down, anybody over here who gets hired to put on sports center to do karate? with the swords and shit. And you're sitting there going, this is worthless. These guys will get beat up. Especially right now.
Starting point is 01:33:49 This is the worst time to watch Sports Center because it's hockey and that's it. And a little in baseball, a little bit of baseball. So from now until Hawkins, there's no football. So what you mean to tell me is sports center?
Starting point is 01:34:01 Let me talk to you from the Art Sports Center people. The fucking kennel show that you put on every year with those ugly fucking dogs for four hours. We can't slip a jit-to-thing in there for now. Again, it's got to be to go on. television and to basically educate. You know, the UFC educates you with the three-point system.
Starting point is 01:34:21 It's a scoring system. There's three judges, but that's all you know. The way I look at it, though, it's a great idea, but the way I look at it is if you're a UFC fan and you can follow the UFC and you understand what's going on in the ground, yes, EBI is more technical because it's all groundwork. But I figure if you're a UFC fan, you'll understand this enough. You'll get it. I'm not generally thinking about attracting people that don't know anything about Jiu Jitsu. Like them, they're going to have to catch up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:34:54 Right. No, no, no, no. It's like NFL. It's like the NFL. I'm not talking about that. Yeah. I'm talking about somebody who maybe isn't Jiu Jitsu and never seen it to that level. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:04 You know, I'm talking about if you really, really, really want to put this on TV. Yeah. You got to break it down from somewhere. Yeah. You got to break it down from something. The leg block game is, it's just as vast as, Brazilian jiu-jitsu in itself. You know, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, you attack the neck, you attack the arm.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Asombo is all legs. It's the same thing, they're joint locks. It's like, if you, you know, if you attack someone's shoulder or elbow, it's the same thing as attacking someone's leg. It's the same thing. It's not like a different person. It's your body. You have limbs.
Starting point is 01:35:34 You have arms and legs, and you have your neck. Jiu-Jitsu should be about all of it. And the Gracie's on, especially on Helio's side, with Hicks, and Horriott and Hoyce. They attacked legs, not as deep and as vast as like what John Danorahar is done. They took it to the next level. You know, there's been Samba. There's always been catch wrestling.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Who teaches at Black House down there? I don't think there's actually teachers at Black House. Yeah, they do. I think. Team Nogera, because Team Nogera has a Nogera down there, somebody. Mike Maxwell was on that team. Okay. And I've had discussions on Mike Manple.
Starting point is 01:36:13 I don't even flop with this shit. I just attack the legs. They're right there. Yeah. I drink. The great thing about legs is you don't, in Jiu-Jitsu, before you can think about a submission, if you're on top, you've got to pass the guard. If you can't pass the guard, very hard to get a submission.
Starting point is 01:36:32 There's still a couple things you can do, but generally, you have to pass the guard to submit. And on the bottom, you know, generally, you can submit guys off your back, but generally you want to sweep and pass. But with leg locks, you don't have to sweep and you don't have to pass to get a submission. You can go for legs in any position anywhere. You don't have to sweep or pass. That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:36:52 He goes, why we're going to wrestle with you for 10 minutes? Yeah. I'm just going to fake and go out to the legs and that the party's over. The problem is with leg locks, if you get too leglock heavy, it's not the absolute smartest style for MMA. Like if you're going for legs, that means, man, You're not tying up your opponent's arms. That means he could elbow you or punch you.
Starting point is 01:37:14 So in MMA, it's risky. That's why I never really got heavy into leg locks until the last couple years. But in the beginning of my 10th planet, we were always leglock friendly, always allowed leglock guys to go after and reap legs. And I encouraged it. But personally, for me, I didn't want to get too heavy with it only because I was focusing on more MMA style. But, you know, now with the rise of submission-only game, I don't head first into leg locks. And the whole 10-planet Jiu-Jitsu Association has been transformed. We've always been heavy on the rubber guard and twister and lockdown stuff and electric chairs.
Starting point is 01:37:57 But now we're also heavy on leg locks. Last country. That's for him first. Oh, really? I'll give you the last one. It's like that. Who's the guest here? He is tonight.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Trust me. Lee likes these. I don't mind going last. I love leg locks, man I'm sold I'm 100% into it man I love them my students
Starting point is 01:38:17 like the girls are doing them kids are doing them we got everybody on leg locks right away kids are funny how you told me a story when you were like a blue bout you went to a tournament
Starting point is 01:38:26 and you went for a heel hook and people started throwing shoes I went for a toll because I used to be into toll I saw Ken Shamrock video a long time ago he's in jeans with some Japanese guy and he did a toehold
Starting point is 01:38:36 so this is like a 94 95 so I started I was I was a Toehold fiend back in the day. And the first Pan Ams in the States,
Starting point is 01:38:50 they shipped 500 Brazilians into El Segundo to do the very first Pan Ams, and there was a bunch of Brazilians. And I went for a tollhold, and the riot started. The riot almost started. They started throwing shoes and water bottles at me. And Johnny Machado comes, I have a toll, and everyone's going nuts
Starting point is 01:39:05 screaming at me and yelling, they were doing Brazilian chants and throwing shoes. And John Jock's brother, Johnny, come running, and he slides them back. And I have the toe, I'm like, oh, shit, look what's going on. Everyone's going nuts. So I let it go, and the guy beat me. But, yeah, leg locks are really frowned upon for a while. Now they're more accepted.
Starting point is 01:39:30 But, you know, after seeing how high you can take the leglock game with Danor's done over the last 10, 15 years of leg locks, I'm like, shit, I want some of that. So it takes your overall game to a whole other level. Because, yeah, you want to pass, and yeah, you want to sweep, but there's guys that you can't pass the guard, and there's guys who can't sweep. You're going to run into guys as you can't. If you're really good at leg locks, you're still in the game. You're like, fuck, the pass me, go after your legs.
Starting point is 01:39:56 And it's a whole different game. It's a beautiful thing, man. Jiu-jitsu and leg locks and samba all mixed up together. Shit, you don't know what's going to happen. It's a beautiful thing. And in the submission-only game, since there's no stride. shit leg locks are crazy important super if you're not
Starting point is 01:40:13 if you're not on top of what's going on with leg locks in this submission only game you're gonna get got you just cannot go forward unless you understand the entire body you just can't be half the body like arms and neck you got to be full body for submission only because they're going to come after your legs
Starting point is 01:40:29 guy like Eddie Cummings and Gary Toney come after your legs shit if you if you don't know what's going on 100% you're going to tap who that bung is kill that fucking savage. It's Sunday night bitches. We're getting the week
Starting point is 01:40:43 started right. You understand me? Lee, you want another one? Look at your eyeballs. That went right through your fucking skull, didn't it? It really did. You think Uncle Joey's fucking around before surgery. I'm going in there all sambowed out tomorrow. And you could
Starting point is 01:41:03 watch the entire EBI library one through six on Byte Pass at any time, too, the whole thing. We got the EBI 7 countdown show that's on my YouTube channel that I just uploaded about a week ago. I retweeted it last week. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:41:17 Really? Oh, nice. Yeah, the EBI 7 countdown shows, but it's 25 minutes. It'll give you a rundown of what's going on next Saturday. So if you watch that countdown show, you're going to be pumped up for Saturday. You'll understand. I break down all the competitors, even if you don't know who they are. Like, at first, you will after that countdown show.
Starting point is 01:41:37 I'm happy you're doing this shit, Eddie. It just shows the, your evolution, you know, the evolution. looking at that magazine, I saw all these people with EBI rules. I know Chal Sunn is doing a tournament now. He's doing EBI rules too. He called me. Chal Sun said, hey, man, you mind them. I borrow your rule set.
Starting point is 01:41:55 And I said, fuck, yeah, go for it. I want everyone to do it. So just, you know, you start seeing, like, tournament flyers, and then there'll be EBI rules. You know what I mean? It's like prison rules, kind of, you know what I mean? A basketball prison. It's fucking impressive, Eddie, because for years, they tried to do something,
Starting point is 01:42:10 and you just took it over with an idea. So you got to tap yourself on the back again. You know what's going to be crazy is EBI 8, which is September 11th, is going to be a 16, instead of an all, you know, Beast tournament with dudes, it's going to be a 16, 13, 14-year-old girl tournament with Grace, Cora, Alyssa, Jasmine the Beast, Danielle Garcia, Janelle Takach, Alex Tarich. 14-year-old girls. 13 and 14.
Starting point is 01:42:40 That's fucking amazing. EBI 8. It's called the females. It's going to be all-woman show. But the tournament is going to be 13, 14-year-olds all bad. We're going to find out of Grace is the best. We're going to EBI8. We're going to find out if she is.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Maybe she gets knocked down in the first round. Who knows? You know, because there's this girl named Jasmine the Beast Johnson, who's going to, I'm featuring her against Danielle Garcia this Saturday as well. Because she was going to be in the tournament, I wanted to bring her in and, you know, let people get a glimpse of what she can do. She's a hundred and 15 pounds. She's 14 years old, 115 pounds. Grace is 100 pounds.
Starting point is 01:43:16 So that's the weight. That's the weight limit for the EBI 8 is 115. But Kora Sexton there, she's 103. So there's going to be these light, super light technical girls going against these super athlete, 14-year-old girls that are having a hard time making 115 pounds. You know what I mean? So it's going to be like Rocky 4. It's going to be like Drago against Rocky.
Starting point is 01:43:37 Seriously, man. Very interesting, the growth of J-J. I mean, there's schools in Burbank. I don't even know about it. I rolled with a guy from Checkmate, Burbank. I didn't know Leo Vieira. Check Matt. Check Matt.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Check Matt. Check Matt. His best girl, Danielle Garcia, she's actually going to be, she's fighting this Saturday against Jasmine. Out of Burbank or Long Beach? He was out of Long Beach. You know what? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:03 She's checkmat, but I don't know. There's a bunch of checkmats. I don't know which one she trains at. I should know that, but I know that she's Leo Vera. Oh, you know what? She's probably up in Victorville. There's a Czech map with Marcelo Mafra. He's out in Victorville.
Starting point is 01:44:19 That's where Danielle Garcia is from. She's from Victorville. She's 14-year-old. She's going against Jasmine the Beast. Two hundred and 15-pound 14-year-olds with superb jujitsu. There's going to be some crazy shit. Coracek is going to also have a special match. She's going against a Zoe Childs.
Starting point is 01:44:34 This is a rematch. So on top of the 16 guys, the featherweights, We're going to have three special matches with girls that are going to be in EBIA. I just wanted to give people a glimpse, like I said, of them before. We do that all-female show. It's going to be nuts, man. It's just really funny. I'll get your girl in there, too.
Starting point is 01:44:56 The girl. What's her name? Jessica Flowers. It's just really funny where you've taken this game. And I know for a long time you struggled, you know, people didn't like the reef a thing. People didn't like the fucking tent planet. And now you got the system. you got them over a barrel.
Starting point is 01:45:12 They're using your fucking rules. You know what's cool, man, it was a cool weekend in so many ways and on so many levels, but one of the coolest things was, you know, like I said, the IBJJF, they held a tournament there at the UFC Fan Expo. And I ran into so, like Leo Vieira, ran into him, talked to him, Roan Conero,
Starting point is 01:45:35 Luca Tella, a guy from Gracie, Mike, all these guys that, I was never really close to. I wasn't like ever like we were never buddies and texting each other or anything like that. We just kind of never really said anything. We passed by each other and just occasionally said, hey, or whatever, shook your hand. But it was a really good time, man. I had really good conversations with Leo Vieira.
Starting point is 01:45:56 That's the guy that crushed me after I beat Hoyler. I tapped out Hoyler in 2003 Abu Dhabi, but the very next match, Leo Vieira beats me like 100 to nothing. And we had a really good conversation. conversation. It was a, it was a very pleasant time at, uh, at that IBJF tournament. Met a lot of people out of Brazilians that I never knew before. Uh, it was, it had a really good time. It's, uh, you know, you're, you're one of the contemporaries right now. You're one of the guys right now. You know, I've had conversations with Alberta when he was telling me, you met you when you guys were bluebells.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Yep. Yep. Yep. Or something like that. So, you know, you know, I met Brody Stevens when he had a fucking public access show. I see Brody now. I got to give him a hug because I knew him back then. And this is the same thing with the people you're seeing now. Yeah. With Alberto Crane, we met at a Santa Cruz tournament. They had, Claudio Franza had the Santa Cruz tournament.
Starting point is 01:47:00 I forget what it was called, like U.S. nationals or something. And I met Alberto Crane up there at a blue belt, and he was the only one with the video camera. He had a big, one of those video cameras that recorded VHS, the big ones, and he had one at the tournament, and he said he would film my matches. We met him kind of hit it off, and he filmed my matches. And then he lived in New Mexico, and he said he would make me a copy.
Starting point is 01:47:22 I remember writing him, and shit. It was like, this is 1995, 96, and I asked, hey, do you have that tape? When are you going to send that tape? And he took so long. I just wanted to watch me. I never had any video of me competing. I didn't videotape anything.
Starting point is 01:47:35 this is a you know no one had video cameras and you gotta be rich keep talking about it on the bed oh now you got a piss what are you gonna do jih Tutsi Lee when you thinking about it I did it for a while and oh you did where I Joey yeah the same place he was at at VMA I like VMA but I um I don't know I I listening to Joey and you and everyone who talks about Jit too there's such a love for it and I just couldn't, I didn't have it.
Starting point is 01:48:08 But at that ju-duty two place, they had kettlebell class months a week. So from that, I found a place that Joey actually used to go to as well, but it's a kettlebell gym. So I'd do that three times a week now. But if you could press a button right now, if you could press a button that gave you the skills to put people to sleep and break their limbs and totally immobilized people in control. If you could press a button that gave you that, boom, would you do it? Or you're saying, nah. Oh, absolutely. Of course, right?
Starting point is 01:48:37 Why? Because it'd be awesome. Wouldn't it be awesome to, like, actually know? I totally get the appeal of Jiu-Jitsu. So you've got to look at it like this. Some people, some people turn away from Jiu-Jitsu. Most people. Most people.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Yeah. You're like most people. Absolutely. You're like most people. People that like Jiu-Jitsu are in the minority. You know why? It's just all about how they look at it. You know, because you could, some people tapping, getting submitted,
Starting point is 01:49:04 it's in our DNA for it not to feel good. Nobody ever gets tapped out and it feels good. It wasn't, I did a tournament that I knew I was going to get killed at and it was fine. I don't mind getting tapped out. I just, I don't know, man. It's just not something that I was physically good at and I know most people aren't when they start,
Starting point is 01:49:27 but I don't know. Did you feel like everyone was thinking you just suck? No, no, everyone's always very, very, But you just said earlier that you would press that button because it was awesome. Yeah, but that button would be awesome. Taking into account of my arms. So you got to look at it. No, but you got to look at it like this.
Starting point is 01:49:44 This is coming from a guy that's been teaching jiu-jitsu for a long time. I've seen people come and go. There have been lots of people. Most people react like you. It's just like, fuck God. I'm not good at this. I can't do this. And I'm not having fun.
Starting point is 01:49:58 I'm losing all the times. Like, why is this fun? I go in here and I get tapped out. Fuck that. Why is this? How is this fun getting tapped out? It sucks. It's in our DNA for it to suck.
Starting point is 01:50:08 And when you, but when you, all you got to do is focus on being able to do to someone what they're doing to you. Oh, man, all you got to do is just know that you can do it. So you don't think you could do it. But you can do it. But you think you can't. You think you can't. But I'm here to tell you, I've never met anybody ever that just continue to do it and not get better at it, little by little. So you can't do you think like it was just too hard for you?
Starting point is 01:50:35 You can't figure it out and it's too complex? I think it was a fun thing. I think I fell in love with kiddle bills and I just wasn't enjoying. Because you thought you couldn't get good at it. That probably had a good amount of doing it. Of course. Most people think they can't, they just can't do it. Most people, they think, man, it's just not worth it.
Starting point is 01:50:55 You're going to get tapped out all the time. Yeah. You got to get anything in life. When you first walk into something that's outside, outside your comfort zone. I called the guy up first. I drove by there 15 times. And I was done with kickboxing.
Starting point is 01:51:12 And I had a bunch of options. I could call you. I could call a bunch of people. I said, you know what? I don't know this guy. Let me give him the 50 bucks. Go down there. Because if I don't like it,
Starting point is 01:51:23 I don't know. I haven't wanted anybody to know I even tried it. And on the end, we spoke, and he taught me the grips. And he taught me the grips. and he taught me, but when I did the hip escapes, the room just started spinning. And we talked a little more,
Starting point is 01:51:40 and he taught me a basic scissors sweep. I thought it was interesting. I got in the car and I'm like, that was interesting, but I'm never going to go back. And then I did a Ben Franklin close. You know what that is? When you put a piece of paper, and you put lines down the piece of paper,
Starting point is 01:51:59 and you write the advantages and the disadvantages, to jihitsu for me. You know, and obviously I wrote out of shape. But obviously I wrote commitment and I wanted to do something different. So I went to a night class. And that was fucking brutal, Eddie. Brutal.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Because I'm 50. I don't have energy in the fucking nighttime. All my energy's done in the daytime. It's tough for me to learn the moves. But he taught me a pass, a collar pass, where you double up the legs and you throw them over. and I could do that. But again, I walked out and I'm like, I'm not coming back in here again.
Starting point is 01:52:37 But you know me, Doug. I said, I'm going back down on Monday night. And on Mondays from 8 to 8, 30, people don't like it because he makes you do jumping jacks and burpees. I would do whatever I could do, push-ups, 10 jumping jacks and stop. I would run some laps, I'd walk some. But one night I went in there and another one.
Starting point is 01:52:57 And that was the biggest mistake in my life. That was like the time of St. Patty's Day, 1992, I got on stage on Coke. I thought it was cute. That was a big mistake. And I know not to get high or nothing when I go to Jitza because I would panic when somebody got on top of me. The weight would just make me panic. I got sleep happy. I can't breathe on the bottom. But I started thinking, what if somebody gets on top of me on the street, dog? I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I can't die because I don't want to do this. And that's what made me go back, Between you and I, I don't have the aptitude for it.
Starting point is 01:53:34 When I played football, I had aptitude three days. You know, you learn your fucking formations, and you learn to block this guy and tackle this guy as he comes around. With basketball, I had the thing. With baseball, I didn't. And I'm Cuban. I didn't have the aptitude to play baseball. With Jiu-Jitsu, I was completely out of the game.
Starting point is 01:53:52 It was like me going to a technical school to learn mechanics. I'm not an auto mechanic. You know, it's like when you, like with your experience, with comedy, you know that if a guy starts doing comedy and he goes up to a couple open mics, he's like, fuck this, I got, you know, I'm not going to fucking do this. It's just too hard.
Starting point is 01:54:11 I'm gone. But you know, like, you know, like, man, you know, whether you tell him or not, you're like, you can do this. You just got to fucking work. You can do this. Most people think they can, but they can't. I knew I could. Like, my day,
Starting point is 01:54:27 my first day at Jiu-Jitsu, I got wrecked. I had 37 times. got wrecked. But instead of doing what most people do, most people are like, fuck this. How is that fun? That's not fun. Most people are like, they're gone. But the way I looked at it is like survival on the streets. I knew that, fuck, who cares if this guy, these guys beat my ass? One of these days, I'm going to be able to do that to a dude who walked in the first day. That was the goal. I just want to be able to do what that dude did to me. I go, you've been training four years. And you look like a fucking nerd.
Starting point is 01:55:04 You know what I mean? I go, you can do this? He goes, hey, train hard for four years. I'm like, shit, I'm going to be able to do this too. So I didn't care about getting tapped. Like, the more I got tapped, the more I'm like, fuck, yes, I'm going to be able to do this. And I got obsessed. And all I wanted to do was my goal, my first goal is to be able to put a clinic on a dude who's been training one day.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Then after like six months of hard training, I was able to do that. It took maybe six months, maybe even a year. before I can just do whatever I want it to that dude, you know, but time flies. So a year goes by like that, but you, you actually can do it. There is nobody on the planet unless you have some kind of serious, like, um, condition. We have that, we have that friend who has, who's in a wheelchair. He's in a fucking, uh, he's got cerebral pausing. You got to, you still with your girl?
Starting point is 01:55:53 Mm-hmm. What happens when you go out and someone starts shit, man? You want to be able to fucking handle the goddamn, your business, man. You want to be able to... And Jiu-Jitsu will 100% give you that confidence. Like, if anything goes down, you're like, I got this motherfucker. I wreck them every day.
Starting point is 01:56:12 You can do that. You know, I'm not... Whether you go to Jiu-Jitsu again or not, it's not none of my concern at all. I'm just telling you, I'm just giving you... Like, I'm trying to... And I'm never going to bring this up again. I'm telling you the truth.
Starting point is 01:56:27 You're trying to get really good at this man. You could. You could. could say you could have it'll it'll it'll you know what jihitsu will do when you stay when if you stay you'll start to realize that shit i'm constantly taking these moves that i suck at and getting pretty good at them then getting really good and then mastering them and it becomes i'm unconscious and then i'm doing it to this move and then all these moves are in different parts of development you're like shit if i just keep practicing all this they look what i could do it's like then you
Starting point is 01:56:57 realize you could do that to anything you're like shit i anything i want to do i can can actually do when people say that. Oh, you can do anything. You just got to believe in yourself. That's actually true. It doesn't mean that, hey, I want to be an NBA star, you know. No, it means that if you want to get good at basketball, you could actually get way better at basketball than you are right now. You can get good at it, not to play in the NBA, but you could do anything you want to do. And, man, why not have the power to and the skills to put people to sleep and break their bones if you had to? If you got kids, he did a kid. Mercy snapped him into shape.
Starting point is 01:57:34 Mercy made him do it. Maybe it'll take a kid for you too. But ultimately, ultimately, you want to do it, man. One thing for sure. You want to. Got me going on it. One thing, the main objective I thought Jiu-Jitsu had over anything I had done, even comedy, that really got my dick hard about it.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Yeah, they. I'm on the floor. My hip escape. I get the guy into my guard. Something happens. We go a scramble, and my arm got caught, and I go, ah. And one of the purple belts, brown belt, looked over at me. Weird.
Starting point is 01:58:20 And after the class, you know how many times this guy's talked to me? I think maybe two times. He came over. He goes, what happened to you before? I go, my fucking shoulder. And he goes, let's, let me see. this and I was something he goes let's go on the back and we took a stick and we worked with this stick for 20 minutes and he told me to take the stick home and do this by myself for 20 minutes
Starting point is 01:58:42 he didn't look for a five dollar bill he didn't want me to give him free tickets to the conony store he didn't want nothing from me and one thing I wanted from conody one thing I wanted from my criminal friend one thing I was always looking for was one a family but be I was always looking for sort of like of his brotherhood. And I really found it with Jiu-Jitsu. More self-in comedy, believe it or not. More soul and comedy. When I walk into where I go,
Starting point is 01:59:14 I'm good to go. That's my fucking out. The phone don't ring. I don't want to talk on the phone. I don't get text. I don't get nothing. It's my ow. I take it really fucking serious when I go in there.
Starting point is 01:59:26 When I go in there, I'm the fat white belt in the corner. I'm not Joey D. is the comedian. I really like that. I like that. I like that hour of nobody has to take a fucking picture. Nobody has to talk to me about auditions. In fact, I'm asking people questions. Hey, dog, get me in your guard, do that movie.
Starting point is 01:59:47 You know what I'm saying? And people actually go, yeah, nobody says, fuck you. You know, some kid came up to me that day. He goes, dog, my fucking cousin called me. He says, you're going to Nashville. He has a school. They want to train you. When I was 418 pounds, how many people emailed me and said,
Starting point is 02:00:05 we want to train you this weekend? That many. A week before I go to a town now, I got an email from somebody who says, bring your gear like to train you at my school, and I'll say, is it far? And if they say, yeah, I won't do it. But if it's close, I'll do it. If it's close to the school, I'll definitely do it. It's very interesting.
Starting point is 02:00:26 That's... One day, Lee, one day. That's what turned me on the most about it, that I'm just a fat, in the corner who does eight hip escapes and he has to get up and breathe and he starts from scratch and it doesn't bother me at all because it brings me back to reality it brings me back to the reality I like to be on you know what I'm saying it gets old to go out and people want to take pictures it gets old for people to laugh at your stupid fucking jokes you know what I'm saying there I'm just a guy in the corner that at first I couldn't even make the whole warm up now I do the whole warm up
Starting point is 02:01:02 you know. Today I got submitted one time and maybe I got the guy in a collar choke. But I was happy that those two those two deep halves worth. Like I went right home and wrote it down. Like they really fucking work.
Starting point is 02:01:21 And they would textbook both times. Like I practiced it so many times at drill class now. I hook his leg, pick him up, gone. Boom. I'm on top. It's all about numbers, man. on. I'm on top of him now. It's like now I love Halfguard.
Starting point is 02:01:36 I love Halfguard. I pop up. I grab his back. I turn myself down. Then I keep growing and keep expanding. It doesn't stop. You're going to keep growing up. A year ago? Do you think I would put somebody purposely on top of me, Lee? Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 02:01:50 I actually pull somebody on top of me and throw his knees up and get under him and fucking pull him up again. Then I hold him there and I breathe a little bit. Then I walk his leg out. Then I fucking spin him backwards. a fucking, you know, and I love it. I love it. That should be some animation right now. What you're saying?
Starting point is 02:02:09 And today, right now I'm so as fuck because I can't eat no fucking aspirin because tomorrow I'll bleed the debt. So that's why I'm really so, so it's a day. So I enjoy going. I wish you a lot of luck with the EBI this weekend. Thank you very much. I'm happy they could go to Fight Pass. You can either pay for the daily, which is $9.95.
Starting point is 02:02:30 You can just sign up a Pipe Pass. And everything's on there. You could see fucking Popeye fighting Pluto in 1922. They got everything on there. So it's not a bad fucking deal to be on, especially if you're a UFC pan. Lee, how are you feeling, dog? It goes bonk. It's got to you.
Starting point is 02:02:46 Oh, everything got to me. But, yeah, UFC Fight Pass is great. I signed up for it for the past week. And they have like the where are they now, fights. They have like all the other. They have, obviously, they have EBI, but they have a ton of other organizations. and I think if it's a one-time fee of $999, it's the same price as one month and five-pass.
Starting point is 02:03:06 So might as well just do five-pass. Yeah, yeah. Your choice, whatever you want to do. Some people don't like to get that. Sign up for subscriptions. They just feel like weird about it. I'm at Cora Sack. She's really cool, too.
Starting point is 02:03:18 She's going to be good progress. I watched her like crazy submission video. So she's, she's, who? Kora. Kora, yeah, yeah. I'm a big friend of Kora's too. Yeah. It's weird.
Starting point is 02:03:28 She's got a new weapon that no one knows about. She's really good at some shit. Everybody is that prepares for Cora. They prepare her rubber guard. If you get caught, if you get caught in her guard, she has one of the best full guards on the planet, even for a little girl. It's super high advance, what she's doing.
Starting point is 02:03:52 So people are always trying to stay away from her guard. But now she's got a new weapon. Ooh, she's got a new one. I mean, she's really good with it and has nothing to do with guards. Walt Jiu-Jitsu, you were raised by a stepdad. In the relationship with him, wasn't that great from what you told me over the years. Did he pass, or is he still alive? A stepdad?
Starting point is 02:04:12 Yeah. I have no idea. No, I think he's still alive. Yeah, I would have heard of you would have died because he's my sister and my brother's real father, so I would have known if he would have died. He's still alive. It's crazy. Today I found out that my stepdad died.
Starting point is 02:04:26 He was like my own official stepdad. that it fucking killed me for a minute because let me tell you something I hadn't talked to him in a few days so this morning I got up at five and I wrote for two hours and then about six seven thirty I started calling my friends on the East Coast and I called him at eight o'clock ain't an answer this motherfucker always answers he always answers even the taif he's sleeping And so I hung up and I said, I'll wait 10 minutes and he'll call back. He's one of those people. So he always calls you back.
Starting point is 02:05:02 He didn't call back. So when my wife left to go to church with the baby, I had to go to the weed store. And I had to go to CVS to pick up my purpose sets and all that shit. And when I got back in the car, I left the phone and at the weed store. I was in there talking to the girl. And I saw the, and you know who else I called after him? I called my best friend that's a funeral director because he's a freeholder
Starting point is 02:05:28 This is how you know how you and I talk sometimes And you're like Joey I was just telling somebody about you and you called Yeah synchronicity so it was the same thing I called and if you look at my phone I called Carmine first And I called the gear Rennary and I talked to him he was sleeping it was 11 o'clock I go what the fuck you're doing the sleep he goes I got up early Ransomeroons and I'm taking a nap now till some baseball game or some shit
Starting point is 02:05:52 And I said, all right, man, just checking in where you love you. And I hung up the phone. And when I got out of the weed store, he called and Pete, I was in a call. And I knew it. I knew it already. Like, I didn't need a genius. I called Anthony first, and he told me you here. And Carmine died that I called Pete, and he told me.
Starting point is 02:06:13 Carmine died. If they talked to him, they called him, and he said he was in the bathroom, give him five minutes. They didn't answer the door. So he had a heart attack on me. the way in. Now I gotta tell you at first one, how was he? He was 70, he was done. You know, he was starting to lose his mind.
Starting point is 02:06:31 He was going to bed at 6 o'clock and calling me at 1 in the fucking morning. You know, he would get up at 12 and start dying. And he would wake me up at 3. Like, it was nobody. Cockarini, what are you doing? What are you watching? What's on TV? I didn't want
Starting point is 02:06:47 to hurt his feelings and tell him I was sleeping. So I would talk to him for a little while. And I'd hang up the phone. called me back 10 minutes and asked me my zip code. Then he would hang up and he called me again. So he was starting to lose it. But he would always tell me, you know, he'd always told me on the phone. I was his adopted son. And today when I got Frankie on the phone, Frankie goes, when he passed, I went over there, Coco, and I don't want to make you feel bad. I wanted his wallet. And he had to picture me from the longest yard. This dude was my dog, dog. You know, it's, it's hard to, and I've never told these stories because I was always.
Starting point is 02:07:25 always ashamed of this, but it's hard to, you know, Joe Rogan put me on the map. I did a few movies, but Joe put me on the map. Carmine and Life put me on the map. Because when I moved to Jersey, I was so insecure, I wouldn't go out. So when I stuck up for his son, he liked that, and I started going to his house. Because there was weapons in my house and drugs and cash, I wasn't allowed to invite kids all my house when I was a kid. Like, you'd come to my house, you had to wait on the porch.
Starting point is 02:07:55 Unless you were Spanish and you know about Santerian stuff, then I would like, yeah. But if not, I had to explain it. And I'm not the mood to fucking explain it. You know what I'm saying? We're going on in a fucking date. I got to break to you out as a dead chicken in my liver room. I'm not in the fucking mood.
Starting point is 02:08:12 But when I went to his house the first time, like I went, ate dinner with them, and then the second time I went back, and I'm like, you're hungry, yeah. Going to a fridge and make yourself a sandwich. Like, I had all access to that fucking house. you know that's not where it goes i'm a spanish dude you know what i'm a spanish dude so he had already thrown a beat on the guy for his son and i was there and then he ended up throwing a beat on
Starting point is 02:08:39 another guy because of me and his son so now the word got out that i was a carmine so nobody would bother me dog and even all those years when i was causing a lot of problems carmine was furious at me but they would call him first before they wanted to talk to me. So this is one story. There was his drug deal named Mundi, and his partner had a gas station. His name was George Yamiko, and his brother had a gas station, Cuban dudes,
Starting point is 02:09:06 and they would bring fruit up. But before they put the fruit in, they would put coke on the truck. And they had this very successful cocaine operation. So one day, George Amico, I could never approach him directly. I robbed his gas station one time when I was a sophomore without a gun. He didn't know it was me and my buddy. So we never really fucked with George Amico, but he was mutual friends with a friend of mine. And one day my friend said to me, Georgie said that if you want to fuck with him,
Starting point is 02:09:35 you got to talk to this guy named Mundi, this Cuban dude named Mundi. So I started dealing with Mundi. And one day ended up beating him for like an ounce. Well, Moondi went nuts. So George Amico went and talked to my friend's dad, and my friend's dad said, listen I can't help you talk to fucking carmoy so I got a call from Carmine one day and he goes hey man listen I don't know what you're in I'm accusing you or anything but some drug dealers came talking to me to tell you own some type of money what do you want me to do here like what do you mean
Starting point is 02:10:07 what do you want to do you want to pay them and I go not really and he goes what do you want me to do I go up there I just talked to you know just tell him that and he was and he wants to up there and talked on the people never came looking for me but he always took care of me all those years from way before my mother died till you know we did the documentary so it's just uh i could sit here and cry and be a fucking phony fuck i already crying i got out of the way i can't go to the funeral, but I love the guy. It's, it's so crazy the gift I got growing up that my parents are taken away, but God taught me the gift of friendship. Like, it's a weird gift to describe to people. It's a very, very weird gift to describe to people when you have no blood and what people have
Starting point is 02:11:08 done for you. Do you know what I'm saying? Usually you need to be blood with people like that. So it was a great gift that God gave me. I'm good with it and that's it. I just wanted to dedicate I hate this show to Carmine. He made me laugh growing up a lot. When he shot the guy seven times in the back, that was the best. Because he used to always tell me if he wanted to shoot somebody and write him all for dinner. Growing up, all the time, we were kids. If you ever want to kill somebody, you want to get away with it, invite him off a dinner and shoot him.
Starting point is 02:11:38 And when I was 18, that's exactly what he did. He shot a guy in the back seven times in self-defense. And he got away with it. And he lost his job as a cop, but he kept his pension. You can't beat that fucking story. And then he lit a strip club on fire. So as we were kids, we used to call him the torch. Because he lit the strip club on fire.
Starting point is 02:12:00 We'd always ask me if he had a match. And he told us to go fuck ourselves. Come on, you got a match. Go fuck yourself. You speak fuck. Insulting me like that. A lot of good times that he brought him. He treated me like he had four boys.
Starting point is 02:12:16 And whatever his boys got to. I got. One time he called me up. He just come over. I went over there. There was a brand new 300 Indian motorcycle waiting for me. Whatever his boys got, I got. And that was way before my mother died. In fact, in the 8th grade, he called me to tell me to come over, to tell me to go run to my house and tell me that my mother's
Starting point is 02:12:36 house is getting busted by the fucking Union City and Newark Police Department. He goes, go over there. And he didn't say it like that. And he goes, go over and tell your mother, I said, for the clean the house, she's going to have a visit. I knew what he was saying to me. I ran over there and told my mother when the cops got there was nothing. Very interesting, the life we live in Eddie Brabissimo.
Starting point is 02:13:00 I wish you luck next Saturday. What times it start? 7 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, just like the UFC next Saturday night. Lisa, what's going on in your world, Cocksucker? You've been very quiet tonight. I'm very intrigued by the conversation. Intrity?
Starting point is 02:13:17 Yeah, indeed. I'm good. I was very lucky to meet Carmine and it's very sad. Was he still working? No, they gave him a medical release because he got sugar diabetes and his foot turned purple. So they had to send him home and that's what was really. That's what he did he tell us when we were there. We go, Carmen, you still work and he goes, when you stop using it, you lose it.
Starting point is 02:13:43 And it took him six months to die after his job. So if you're old, don't think of it. retiring. Keep your job, especially if you're single, your wife died or whatever and at least keep your mind occupied. And that's the show, folks. We've got fucking sponsors tonight. As usual, the show
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Starting point is 02:14:16 Datsu-Sara bag, the cops from ever find none. There's a thousand pockets in there. Don't give up after the 80 second fucking pocket, okay? You got a place for your mouth guard. Water, an extra water. I put protein powder in there and a little
Starting point is 02:14:32 container and I put it in there. So after the fucking jiu jihitsu, I have 26 grams of protein. I got my wallet. I got my fucking cell phone. I got my keys. I got an extra set of fucking knee pads. I got so much shit in that fucking bag. I got an extra belt. I got an
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Starting point is 02:19:25 what the fuck my voice or sound like next week when we do a podcast, but we'll take our chances. Don't forget, September 21st is the first night of the Flappers. It's at Flappers. This is the No Expectation Tour. I go up there with a notebook, with topics, and we
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Starting point is 02:19:57 Go luck with EBI. Thank you. On UFC Fight Pass. Lee Syak, get your shit together. This happens to you because you're not in training on off nights. I'm fine. You're hanging out with mom and holding their hand, and you still got to do 10 stars when I'm out of town. I don't mean you got a lot of time.
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