The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #396 - Eddie Bravo
Episode Date: July 11, 2016Eddie Bravo, Owner of 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu and the founder of EBI, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. The Seventh Eddie Bravo Invitational takes place July 16, 2016 at the Orpheum The...atre in Los Angeles, CA and being streamed live for the first time on UFC Fight Pass. All info can be found here: http://www.eddiebravoinvitational.com/ This podcast is brought to you by: SeatGeek: Download the FREE SeatGeek app and use promo code CHURCH to get $20 off of your first SeatGeek purchase. Datsusara: Go to DSgear.com and check out all of their great products, like gi's and rash guards, that are made with high quality hemp textiles. Use code Joey to get 5% off of your order. Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout. Recorded live on 07/11/2016.
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Oh, shit.
Sunday night.
Early Monday morning, a little kiss for you, cock suckers.
This little kiss went a little disco, double-teamed a little bit.
A-strow and heat, listen to, tonight.
I want to stick it in you.
I love it.
The church, bitches, Sunday, Monday, July 11th.
It's a whole new fucking week.
It's a straight week.
There's no fucked up holiday on Monday.
you're walking around Wednesday thinking it's Thursday
it's just going to be a beautiful fucking week Lee Syatt
my other little brother Eddie Bravo in the house
Oh shit fucking Vegas driving back
Signing autographs the UFC past
People telling me people wouldn't leave you alone at the fucking comedy show
Asking if you want to go to Spearmint Rino and shoot
Fucking crazy people out there aren't that those things
They're crazy
They go out there to lose their mind
I was smoking a fucking number
with talking layer hidden under a bridge
as six people came over
we were fucking draped and fucking
what's that camouflage
and people still found us in the fucking weeds
though
was Vegas crazy this weekend
it must have been
yeah it was nuts
crazy the fan listen the fan expo
is fun as shit
you know how many
I mean I went the first year
how was it this year
it was good
packed yeah packed
Yeah, it was, it's growing.
It's bigger and bigger.
They have like wrestling tournaments, kickboxing tournaments,
that MMA events going on.
I mean, the space that they rent for this is like, oh, man,
it's like Lala Palooza or something, you know what I mean?
Or a Coachella.
It's just a giant fucking play.
I mean, they had an IBJF full-blown tournament going on with multiple mats.
And they had like an eight-man superfight thing too.
They had karate tournaments.
It was fucking huge, man.
It was crazy.
I was going to fly in Thursday and go Friday morning,
but I had to go to the doctor at 915.
I just took the 1230 flight and said, fuck it.
But I wanted to walk around.
I just wanted to see it wasn't even the fighters as much
as the other shit they got there.
You go, wow, martial arts has come a long fucking weight.
Mouthpieces that are made of this, you know, whatever.
They just have shit.
that you know I didn't see as a fucking kid I used to go to those martial
art stores every fucking Saturday and just sit there and drew I'm gonna put away
money and come back and get a star then they sold you a star and it wasn't
sharpened that drove you fucking nuts you were told against the wall 80 times it
wouldn't stick you're like what the fuck then somebody's like what are you stupid
you gotta get it sharp now you gotta go down to the fucking hardware store and give
the guy with the missing finger five bucks and he puts it in like a fucking
thing, like a thing that closes, and then he would
hit his, that's how you got him sharpened. What are you going to do?
Somebody said to bring him home and doing your mother's can opener.
Remember that fucking can opener your mom had, that the back of it was a knife sharpener?
I had one of those knife sharpening, like swords or sticks.
I don't know how to use them.
I spent time as a kid.
You know, you can't.
I had nun chucks at the kid, but it was the rubber with the foam kind.
Like I never got like actual good ones.
What about, I guess it was a collie stick.
When I did Taekwondo, my master had like a huge, long wooden stick that he would just whack us with if we were doing something wrong.
Like that, like that was the best.
Like that's what I always wanted.
A collie stick?
Just to hit my little brother.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny because today, Chinese connection was on.
Somebody says, I'm watching the Bruce Lee Festival.
And I turned it on.
And it was the part where he was about to hang the fucking.
fucking dude, which is just
a violation of a martial
arts film. Like this was
the early, early, early martial
art films. And Bruce
Lee hangs this motherfucker. He hangs
two of them in one day,
then another motherfucker on the third day.
That's close with type shit.
And like the one
hang him high and one of those
one of those he paints the town
red. I don't know what the fucking movie is.
Don't quote me. Joey, you're wrong. I don't know.
One of those Italian movies he did.
was really he was really evil he was very evil in this movie bruce lee is evil so i'm sitting there
i'm watching it and i'm watching it i'm watching when he goes and he's watching the japanese guys train
he's watching the russian train and now i see him go for the kill and i put on periscope and i put him on
and showed him and i narrated it any bravo is one of the greatest martial art runs he goes through
forty motherfuckers you understand me but he says a lot of
line that is so unique.
He looks at the school and he goes,
listen, I come here to avenge my master.
This has nothing to do with you.
I'm allowing you to leave.
It's like me coming into the house and going,
Eddie, I'm allowing you to leave.
And they were like, we don't know what the fuck.
They're sweeping the mat, mopping the map.
He just drew a beating on those guys.
He stabs the black belt with a fucking sword.
He comes outside.
He just is a spitting.
elbow who does a spinning elbow in 1971 you understand that I
walk directly and spins Eddie pops comes back kicks the guy goes in beats the
fuck out of three more guys bodyguards then he fucks up the Russian dude then he
goes in and when he goes in to fight the master the master has a sword
brusely took out new chucks and for a minute Eddie it was like I was 10 years old
Is that scene on YouTube or something?
I'm sure it is.
Yeah.
So, come on YouTube.
Chinese connection, the ending scene.
But the beauty of it is, Eddie, when he took those new chugs out, I had goosebumps, I got tears in my eyes.
Because I still remember the first time he broke those new chugs out, America lost their mind.
Like, it's very hard to describe as an old man, but I feel proud that I saw it.
Like, he put the new chugs out on the Friday, and by Monday, motherfuckers had new chucks.
Yep. Not the fucking good ones either.
The homemade ones.
How do you make homemade newtucks?
You take a broom.
You cut it, measure it completely even.
And then you get eye hooks.
And you screw the eye hook into the fucking thing on top.
And you get a little six inch chain and you start practicing.
That's a homemade fucking newtuck.
Put that fight scene on.
Okay, YouTube, let me see if this is it.
It's two minutes.
That's probably it, huh?
No, no, this isn't it.
Go back.
This is the end.
You got to go back.
That was part three.
Maybe that was a part one.
Right here.
The fourth one.
Chinese connection fight scene.
Okay, guys, this is something that...
Just look at him.
This is 1971.
He's fucking Steve McQueen coached.
They gave him a picture that said,
Sick Man of Asia.
And he walks back to the fucking Japanese school.
And he says, take this fucking from me now.
Kick the volume on this league.
Oh, I see.
Now, this is based in the 40s when Japanese oppressed are Chinese.
Take this from me and then get out of here.
Whenever you are ready, I'll take on any Japanese here.
Now, any problem, to you, you're like, Joey, why are you making me once?
It's because...
No, I want to watch it.
I want you to put yourself in 1971.
Okay, nobody was doing anything close to this.
You had Clint Eastwood.
You had Charles Bronson.
Then you must be tired.
of living.
Well,
we fight alone.
All together.
You think the guy that overdub Gusley's voice here ever got laid because of it?
This was something that,
these movies cost maybe 50,000 to make in Thailand.
They made millions on this movie.
Look at this guy's win.
The fight scene itself I saw on a Wednesday in Catholic school.
And it was coming out Friday.
This was the trailer,
in happy days and I lost my mind in Catholic school.
How old were you? Eight.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Lost my fucking mind.
When they picked me up, they asked me what I wanted to do that weekend.
It was to go see this.
And the movie theater was packed by me, Bob.
Look at this shit.
This is what America saw.
Like, everybody got to see this.
Not just Fista Fury, the first one, did kind of weird.
This one swept across.
us the fucking board.
To this day, that shirt that he wears, that's one of the
coolest outfits. I always used to get that.
You have to get the white shirt with the long,
long, long sleeves, then the blue
shirt, and then you roll the white
sleeves up over the blue shirt.
And he brought you, eight years old, here we
go. I'm studying with
Resad's father, and I'm seeing
this shit. Are you kidding me?
Like, you believe it.
It's like, that could happen.
Oh, I lost my
fucking mind. Look at this.
And he chore-ass grafted everything.
Right here, look at this.
The money, the money, right here.
Oh, shit.
That's money right there.
A double punch backwards.
Watch out how they turn it to dummies.
You said they turn it to dummies?
This is old school.
But here you go.
This was history, guys.
This was history.
Right here.
Everybody in the movie theater went,
Oh, shit.
Look at it.
This is history.
right here. This is like a-blinking.
By-out.
Right now you're at the movie theater. Your heart's bleeding.
Your heart's pumping.
Your hands are sweating.
You can't wait for this movie to end.
So you can figure out how to get new jobs.
You were looking blackbell magazines.
You lost your fucking mind.
That guy right there, that guy's name was John Ree.
He was one of the best traditional Taekon Doe guys at a time.
He's not even sweating.
No.
That was classic.
Now, that destroyed America, guys.
So you went home and you made the wooden ones.
And then people figured out, wait a second, you got to get the thicker stick.
And then they did that one with the chain.
But then a movie called Carado, the Hong Kong cat came out.
When Bruce Lee died, the first wannabe movie that you cannot find.
because I've looked for this
motherfucker. Was it Bruce Lye? No.
It was his other good-looking Chinese kid
but the opening scene
is him fucking up like 13 kids
and his mom's like
Carrado, time for dinner and they're like
all right, see you tomorrow. Like they did this
every fucking day for Carado.
And Carado's new chucks had
tips at the end.
That destroyed him ever.
Let's see if we could find that.
Carado, the Hong Kong cat.
Oh shit. How crazy
was it that
This is 1974.
This is probably 1973
A few months after Bruce Lee died
Or right before Bruce Lee died
They said step aside Bruce Lee
And make way for Carrado
The Hong Kong cat
Uh-oh
Hong Kong or Hong Kong?
Hong Kong. What about the fuck it is?
Hong Kong, you know
He was from Hong Kong
What about Bruce fucking lie?
They were trying to get him to
They needed someone to
Look like Bruce Lee
kind of sound like Bruce Lee, we just changed
one letter at the end.
And they were hoping, like, Kiss,
they hope that the masses
won't even notice the difference.
You know, like with Ace Frily and with
Peter Chris, they got a different
dude to play Ace Frily, same makeup,
and a different dude to play Peter Chris
same makeup. And, you know,
the fans, the real fans know, like, what the
fuck's going on? But, but, like,
the Fairweather fans go, oh, let's go check
out, Kiss, they're in town. They're not going to have
any idea. They're, they're
They're counting on that.
Isn't that crazy?
The whole thing's on YouTube.
Let's just see what this is.
Oh, shit.
The Hong Kong cat.
Let's just see what this is.
He's got the same shirt and everything.
You listen to my words.
And crawl under both my legs.
Then I'll let you go.
You're witty enough.
Better crawl under my legs.
Or else you'll never walk.
Go to hell.
Why are his hands in his pocket?
Because he's that badass.
Oh, my God, this is so bad.
Worst shit ever.
You know, they just threw out,
there was a time period where they called
Black Exploitation Movies.
Well, they started putting knees out.
And when Bruce Lee died, they were putting knees out.
Fucking, Tannen.
Keep going, keep going, keep going.
I just want to see if he breaks out of his new chuck
that this is even the same guy.
It's got to be.
His name is Carrotto.
Listen, they could have made a fake carato too.
You never fucking know with these people.
These people were savages in the 70s, man.
Dude, this is news to me.
I never heard of carot.
Bruce Lee opened up.
Bruce Lee's death opened up every...
See?
This is the German version.
Shah Pow-Wa.
You know, I loved all these movies,
but once Bruce Lee died, that was it.
I was not one of the ones that got...
One of my funniest Eddie's conversations ever was about 10 years ago.
But the guy who pitched Game of Death 4, like the balls on that guy.
How are you doing?
We don't want to waste your time for that.
We have an idea for Game of Death 4.
Listen, yeah, Game of Death 2 made $2 million, and Game of Death 3 made $10 million.
This, we're going to use a black guy and put Bruce Lee's face over it.
That sounds interesting.
what is your production value about 10 2250
because that's what it's going to cost to shoot that
they ended up shooting like eight game of deaths that's crazy
the first one was crazy enough let me tell you some
the first game of death is one of the worst movies
you will ever see in your fucking life yes you know
there's different reports that he
started losing his mind towards the end
you know like little things and when you watch that movie
it solidifies death.
Well, he, Bruce Lee was actually only in the last scene,
the scene where he fights Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Danny and Asano.
He goes up from level.
He had shot that.
Then he died.
And they wanted to, they had one tenth of the movie.
And they figured, you know what, we could do this.
We could put this shit out.
He died in 73.
Game of Death came out in 1977.
They had a fake Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
a fake Bruce Lee to play the whole movie except the end the real Bruce Lee comes in
it was pretty fucking ridiculous it was fucking embarrassing it was fucking in my world
it was fucking embarrassing I wouldn't go I wouldn't fall for watch put put the game of
death fine game of death that'd be better because you could see the fake Bruce Lee
this reef is kicking tonight and shit I can't believe I got to be in surgery and
fucking 11 hours god damn Eddie for some reason I'm scared of this fucking
surgery, though. I think
this is the game. No, this is the last
thing. This is going to be the actual
part that Bruce Lee's in.
Yeah, he's actually in this.
Can you find the movie Game of Death?
You want, like, the whole thing?
Let's see what we got. Because what they're doing
is they're actually showing the parts that he
was actually in, but most of the
movie he wasn't in. Yeah, right there.
That Bruce Lee Game of Death is right there.
Yeah. Look, look. He's
dead for four years, and they
decided um they open they open the movie with the chuck not the scene with chuck norris from that's
really brusley but that movie was return of the dragon and then it turns out that this movie
game of death is about like brusley like a superstar Asian action film star and he's filming here
and then they say cut they'll say cut and then oh they were filming them this scene and all of a
done it's on Bruce Lee no more and you see like some other
Bruce Lee lookalike walk away. Watch, check this out.
See, look. Now they're...
Is that Bruce Lee?
It was Bruce Lee, but is that Bruce Lee?
No. Fuck, no, it's not.
Fuck no. They just, that's how they decided.
That's how they decided to make the movie.
They used, see, that's Bruce Lee. That's Bruce Lee.
And then they're going to cut back.
Watch. They cut back and it's the fake one.
Or they're show... See, that's the fake one.
He looks up. They don't get a good shot.
out of his face.
They never really,
they always shoot around
that dude's face.
And then check this scene out, dude.
So now the fake Bruce Lee walks away
and now he goes by the crew
and he's going to go to his trailer
and check out.
They put a picture of Bruce Lee's face
on this dude
and has a conversation with some dude once.
Check this out.
This is the craziest scene of all time.
Fake Bruce Lee.
He's going to go to his trailer.
Watch.
Look, that's real Bruce Lee.
That's real Bruce Lee.
They soup.
Look, see how that...
This is...
Look, now, fake Bruce Lee.
That's a fake one.
And I got the famous American actor.
I forget his name.
But that's the real Bruceley from another movie.
They spliced...
That's another movie.
Oh, my God.
It's just so...
It's another movie.
Fucking embarrassing.
Look at the picture, though, right here.
This is going to be insane.
Can you turn it up a little?
You don't this reminds me?
Hutch.
They were very stubborn.
Their lead guitarist
lost a couple of things.
real brusely another movie
hands and feet
the known of this
lights
what
fall out of the sky
all kinds of
another movie
still that's the real bruce
man
gotta have all
his parts
fake bruceley
this is just awful
what
just wait
hold on
wait
the money shot is coming up
sitting right there
about a telephone
just waiting
that's a picture of Bruce Lee
that's a picture
no shit
that's him in Fist the fucking Fury
They just showed two different pictures of them
With two different haircuts
This is something that only
A fucking
And the word got out right away
When people left Friday night
They're like, don't go see it
Different movie and then now that's
The fake brusley
It is something that
And they did two or three more
I thought with the fake Bruce Lee
Yeah
And the poor people who went to see it
Listen man
I was I'll never forget
him dying. There's no internet. It wasn't in the newspapers. So we actually had to go to Chinatown.
And in Chinatown is what we found out. Bruce Lee was dead. And they actually had the newspapers with him in the casket.
And then there were some of these 10 packs of pictures. So for four bucks, you got 10 boycotted pictures.
The Chinese don't give a fuck. It was like Bruce Lee, two pictures.
from each movie and two pictures from the casket one with him you could see the
casket and the other one with like Steve McQueen and James Cobur and carrying the
fucking casket and you think back now you're like how much money these people make
off this guy's name after he fucking died they made so many fucking movies you know
when you go to blockbuster you see boxes and they actually say the real Bruce
and you sit there and go how the fuck do these people get away with it
but millions of people fall for that shit man I was seven when that game of death came
on I didn't know a kid can't tell no kids can't tell that was made for kids that
wasn't made for adults that was made to beat fucking adults that wasn't made for kids
that was made to beat fucking adults they figured a hundred adults to go to the movie
that and 25 of them were asked for their money back
that's what they pray
and you know what in those days
there was no computerized ticketing
so I could tell you 50 people came to the
fucking movie and steal 25
tickets it wasn't like it is now
that in those days you gave me cash
I put in the register
I gave you a ticket and I gave you a friend to your
fucking I'd love to see a documentary
on the making of death that would be hysterical
they had a bunch of shit
they had a bunch of shit
maybe they did maybe they do that like
you know he did
and to the dragon,
but part of the deal was that they gave him all these movies
for him to produce and direct.
But he was losing it.
None of the parts that he's in and game of death
or any fucking Academy Award winning roles.
By that time, he was doing the voice too much,
he was doing the cat too much,
he was starting to do a different cat.
Like, what the fuck are you doing, Bruce?
You're killing me.
But you know what, man?
It's like one of the skin, who knew where Bruce Lee would be today?
Was the martial arts still good?
Were the fight scenes still good in the movies?
Or were the garbage like that?
Well, when End of the Dragon came out, that was his big movie.
That was on Warner Brothers.
That was his first big movie.
He finally, he did a Fist of Fury in small Chinese label, Chinese connection, small Chinese label.
Return of the Dragon now that the production's blowing up.
So then Warner Bros.
But he kills Chuck Norris and forget.
And Return of the Dragon.
Everybody goes to see that.
That's another one that's, you sit there going, what the first?
fuck of my watching, but he
had some pretty good fight scenes, plus he kills
Chuck Morris. And the end of the dragon
was the big one. He does it. He
has full control. He's like the man.
Warner Bros. said, this is the motherfucker man right
here. He had full
control of that whole movie. All the
fight scenes, everything. He had, he was
the man. Then he dies.
So he dies right before the movie comes out.
So the movie comes out. It's just fucking huge.
It's like the biggest thing ever. But that was the line.
Yeah. Like by that time, there was a line.
Look for the fight scene, enter the dragon.
The second fight scene is possibly in the tunnel before Han catches him.
When he breaks out, he uses every weapon known to mankind.
He starts with the bow.
He gets the fucking sticks that Lee talked about.
Then he gets the new chucks.
That's all great and handy.
The other, I was home and it was on.
And I watched the, I had to go do a spot.
And I watched the first couple minutes.
Right there with O'Harrant, right there.
Baddest fight scene ever.
You're not even going to remember this Lee.
Now, it's 1970 fucking three.
This guy, this white dude rapes his sister.
Put this on loud.
Put the volume on Lee.
Watch this.
Watch Bruce Lee's look on his face
when he finds out who he's going to fight.
This guy raped his sister, and she killed herself.
Look at his fucking face.
Yeah.
Okay.
So now, this guy actually knocks in the door and says,
bring your uniform for the whatever
and Bruce Lee told them on my side
another classic line
Now you're in the movie theater as
I'm 10 when this came out Lee
I'm a green belt and karate
And the whole school is there with you
Bored don't hit back
Bored's don't hit back
And now he got to use his real voice
No overdubs
Well they had money for these
That dude's still alive
Bois. Watch his hands, Lee.
One shot.
That's intense.
He can't even
fucking believe. This guy's still alive, Bob Wall.
Bob Ward will come to your house
and tell you stories for the small 50.
Same fucking move.
What a great choice of
like the scene, the way it's going
down. Clots him with a fucking elbow
when he blocks it. Here we go, Lee. Watch.
Look at this. Stop looking at the thing.
Look at this. This is 19.
73 people. You're at the movie theater going fucking bananas now.
That was one of the greatest kicks of all time.
Oh, hell.
But when he gets him with the spinning back kick right here,
don't watch Mealy. Watch the spinning back kick, kid.
Watch this, Lee. Textbook.
Bam! Are you fucking kidding me?
This guy's getting smacked around in front of his fucking arms.
Another one.
He's getting bitch slapped with turning sidekicks.
Jim Kelly just died, the black dude, just recently died maybe three weeks ago.
We got this right here, Lee.
Oh, you know what happens to your insides, Lee?
If somebody gets you with that like that?
I think somebody broke their arm on this thing.
Yeah, yeah.
One of the guys sitting down broke his arm.
But here it is, here's pure Steve McQueen.
Someone just dropped a bottle.
Well, they didn't have thermoses.
They have water bottles.
in the old face.
Look at this crazy fuck.
Oh, that goes the elbow.
That goes the equilibrium.
And the ear.
That's the shot right here.
That's the look.
You just lost your mind at the movie theater.
You had exploded.
There was no weed necessary.
Nobody could do kung fu like this.
No, no, no.
His acting was fucking awesome.
His fight scenes.
They were all just.
How he looks at this motherfucker now.
Look at him.
What?
What the fuck do you want?
Eyeballing me, son.
Look at it.
He's the best.
Giso under the arm.
He's dead.
Geesel right here.
O'Hara's treachery has disgrace us.
The greatest scenes of all times.
That stands the test the motherfucking time right there.
The way he wants, when he broke the,
the way he walked to him, like, he's just like,
I'm like a father.
You know what I mean?
What would you do?
He just looked at him.
and said, you're not fucking serious, are you?
You're really not serious.
I just fucked you up
and let you live, and you're going to bust two bottles.
It was just sensational, and he was dead a week before that movie came out.
He died a week before that movie came out.
It was already on the street that it was a fucking masterpiece,
and, you know, it was just...
I saw all these movies at a place called Encinatoni or the cinema.
If the cinema didn't have it,
We even wanted to see it.
Whatever was at the cinema,
he was always had seen that on it.
He was owned by a Cuban dude with a wig.
But all the movies had Spanish translations.
The movies weren't English, but with Spanish.
All the guys that came after him sucked so bad,
and the movies were so horrible
that you could take any one of those movies
from like Kung Fu Theater,
you could do whatever you want with them.
They're all public domain.
Nobody fucking owns them.
You could do whatever you want with those movies,
Those shitty kung fu movies, all those Bruce Lee ripoff movies, they're worth nothing.
They're worth nothing.
Public domain, all of those.
They shot, Eddie, I remember going to Puerto Rico in 1973, a couple weeks after Bruce Lee died.
Me and this kid named Jimmy Crespo, our parents were friends, and both our families went.
But him and I had the same agenda every day.
We went to the fucking beach.
We went home, we ate, we took a nap, and we caught a fucking kung fu.
man they
we saw
Matt we were down there nine days
we saw a different Kung Fu movie
every fucking day
that's how popular they were
they were coming out by the bundles
even more so than the American movies
my favorite movies I watched in Puerto Rico
were the one arm
swordsman
I don't remember any of that shit
the only I remember Jesus I don't remember the man
master of the flying guillotine
do you remember that I remember that's the only thing I remember
Sonny Cheever put a couple crazy ones out for a while.
He was eating people's tongues and shit like that.
Sonny Cheever.
Do you remember Killer Be Killed by something Ryan?
They were trying to bust out another Chuck Norris, some white guy.
And the movie's called Killer Be Kiel.
And Chuck Norris' his first three or four movies were not bad guys.
Good men wear black.
Chuck Norris is legit.
He transcended and started doing like missing an action and shit like that.
Missing an action.
I'll tell you what his favorite movie of mine is.
Code of silence.
Chuck Norris was fucking shit.
Dennis Farina, with a crazy drug dealer who would give people Colombian neckties.
The mob was involved.
Great story, 1984.
I don't know what happened.
People playing from the time to time.
Code of silence, Chuck Norris.
Yeah, that was it for me, Eddie.
Chuck Norris has a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsin.
Does he really?
Yeah, through the Machado's.
His karate association is giant, and all the black belts are required to do jiu-jitzen.
That's how evolutionary he is.
What happened with Chuck Norris was,
he was involved with something called Tang Sudo.
And it was Tang Sudo, Teng Sudo, Teng Sudo.
When the Koreans said where they got into it,
then he took Teng Sudo
and the other guys took the Muda Kwan section of it,
which is the same stuff, basically.
When I moved to Colorado,
one of the first guys I went through the Colorado Mountain College
when you went to the classroom
it was him and Chuck Norris.
They had been the originators of that style
and then they broke apart.
Bruce Lee was originally a Wing Chung guy.
He was a traditional martial artist
and in Wing Chung,
they generally don't believe
in kicking to the head
because for whatever reason
you can get off balance
and fall into the ground.
So they like kicking low
and that's what Bruce Lee was about.
And when he met Chuck Norris,
he's Tang Su-Doh.
and Tanks Tseudo is basically Type 1 Doe, which means lots of head kicks and spinning kicks.
And Chuck Norris was responsible for, they've had debates and shit, you know, personally.
And Chuck Norris is the reason Bruce Lee started opening up to high kicks.
Chuck Norris said, hey, man, if you can kick the head, why not kick the motherfucker head?
You land one shot in the head.
And that's a grand slam right there.
Why not have grand slams in your chamber?
You know what I mean?
Like, why?
you understand you know especially like even in the ufc there's a lot of guys that never kick high they just they want they want to stay standing they don't want to take any chance because they know if they kick high and they fuck up and the guy takes him down that could be the whole fight right there one high kick look at chris wide wide you know what i mean so a lot of guys never throw head kicks or rarely there's a bunch of current huge UFC stars that just won't throw to the head and that's the way brusley was and until chuck norris convinced him to well if you want to do tv and phone
You have to kick to the head for the effect.
Nobody wants to see six body shots.
Well, the guy's kidney got fucked up.
Well, that's exactly.
Exactly.
They want to see.
But I'm talking about personally for his style.
Right.
Because in the movies, Bruce Lee was always throwing head kicks.
Right.
He was always throwing head kicks.
Yeah.
And that, you know, that pissed off a lot of his original students,
because his original students came from the school that Bruceley was teaching that
you don't kick to the head and don't do fancy shit.
It was all about just really practical the best shit.
Like the best shit's going to be a head butt to the face.
That's the opening move.
Elbow to the face.
kick to the balls.
Get it quick.
Put them out.
No fucking jabs.
Just two or three shots and it should be a done deal.
If he's not done with the first two or three shots, your style sucks.
It's basically what the original was.
But then once he started doing movies and doing all sorts of shit that he preached against,
his original students were like, dude, he thought it was kind of like, you know,
in a weird way kind of sound out.
But Bruce was like, hey, listen, movies, that's a different fucking thing.
No one wants to see ball shots constantly or a headbut to the face.
It's really crazy shit.
Because I understood the wing chung style.
And the wing chung style uses kicks in sort of a way like Kempo.
If you see the old really good Kempo guys, they block you and then they throw a short kick at your thigh.
And with that short kick, they step in.
So that movement is really not waste.
Do you follow me?
So I'm boxing you.
Set it out.
Boxing you. Unboxing you. I see you. I go to counter.
I'm going to throw a punch.
But while I'm throwing a punch, I'm throwing a kick.
Low, wild.
It's a weird kick they have.
And even like it's a slap kick.
To go and move your hands and that's wing chunk.
They move your hand and just broke and then they get out real quick.
But to start and get out, it's a little leg kick.
that you actually, sometimes it throws you off.
You don't expect it, you know.
I'm very torn, and I want to understand how much of it is nostalgia?
Because if you're watching the movie today, 2016,
everything is bad, direction, acting.
It's not entertaining.
Some movies do stand the test of time and enter the dragon
is when it's like Apocalypse now.
It's like The Godfather.
You know when you watch The Godfather, you don't see shitty production.
You see epic shots.
You see epic filmmaking.
You go back, but you're right, though.
Most movies don't stand the test of time.
You see shit production.
Yeah, but there's a difference between like standing the test of time,
and these are just like, I guess maybe it's because they're from China.
Enter the Dragon.
You know what?
Watch End of the Dragon.
No, no, no, no.
Watch Fist of Fury first.
Okay.
And watch his humble fucking beginnings.
And then watch Chinese Connection.
Because Chinese Connection already launched him in the States.
Okay.
After Chinese Connection, Eddie, he was huge.
And now Americans were sitting there,
foaming at the mouth.
And it drops Way of the Dragon.
So this was entertaining.
Where the Dragon was so big and made it to HBO late night.
And then it ended up being cold.
return of the dragon. And then he had return of the dragon.
But end of the dragons better than all that.
And all that other shit was like the first couple.
He anticipated. It's like Klinnie's
Spaghetti Westerns.
You could not dismiss his spaghetti
westerns. They're classic
spaghetti westerns.
You know, he put his heart
into him. There was really no dough involved.
He had nothing going on here.
His TV show got canceled.
He had nothing to lose.
And if you ever
have, like you like watching, fuck
kidding you'll sit there and watch
orange as the new black than nine hours
right yeah if I have that's good that's good
if I have nine hours
he's got his girlfriend thinks it's good
it's an okay show but so
if you have nine hours like this week
I have 22 hours to
watch TV and if
hang them high
the good and the bad the ugly
or one of those films comes on
I will watch it I will run out to the balcony
smoke dope even if it's
on AMC with commercial
because I have the time.
There's nowhere I can go with stroze in my nose.
Those movies are so
you know you have to do
it's white belt shit
but you have to watch it to understand
what he did later on.
That's why there's so many people that
love the unforgiving.
I'm an outlawed Josie Wales
guy. That's a Warner
Brothers film. You follow me?
And at this time he had put on
This is when they were shooting Westmans all the fucking time.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, you can't get out that way, Eddie.
There's a glass door there.
Yeah, this is when, this is when you, you, you know, he was, what's that word?
People use.
Well, you don't want to be torn into something, the same role over and over.
Oh, yeah, I know what you're saying.
Pige and hell.
And then he picked up the fucking whatever's.
then he picked up the fucking
the dirty
Harry thing
and then he went back to like the outlaw
Josie Wales outlawed Josie Wales
like 76 then in 80
something he put out the Unforgiven
so if you watch the Unforgiven
it's great but if you watch those early
films you know
all that early shit he did that was brilliant
starkly it just takes patience
and a woman's not going to watch for you
doesn't really matter
You order Chinese.
You get two different dishes.
You get a couple appetizers.
You get a couple cans of fucking soda, a gallon of water,
and you put the food on the stove,
and you put on these three films.
And you really watch what America, what in the town.
What a great job they did.
The same thing happened with Bruce Lee.
Okay.
Bruce Lee had a show called The Green Hornet,
and the show got canceled.
And then they came to him with another idea for a show.
but a man that travels all across the country
and the word on the street was Bruce Lee was
going to get a TV show and at the end of the show
he's going to do Kung Fu
guess what happened at the end
the network decided he was too Asian
and they didn't want to commit so they got a white guy to play an Asian
role and that broke Bruce Lee's heart
how could it not so Bruce Lee ended up
getting a deal to make a show
that was released as the big
boss. To us, it was released as Fist of Fury.
Okay.
And it's a really good film, but I feel the Chinese connection was a lot better.
When the Chinese connection came out, that was it.
That fucking put them to a new level in the United States.
Why do you think they don't make these movies anymore?
They don't have the...
Because they don't have the, you know, Lee, this, these were independent films.
The three spaghetti from Westerns, the four he made.
made were independent films.
Right.
The three, the four movies Bruce Lee made, three before Enter the Dragon were independent
films.
Okay.
So do you understand that it was a different time.
It was a different place for this type of shit.
It wasn't about, you know, budgets and whatever.
On the other side, on the other end, the United States, what are you doing, Lee?
What are you looking for?
You made me nervous.
What are you looking for?
I'm just turning up my side.
off, I'm fine.
You know, the United States at that time is releasing some of the greatest films they're
released in the history of cinema.
Right.
The first five years of 75 are some of the greatest films released in cinema.
Yeah.
From the godfather to, you know, Dia Hunter with Dia Hunter and taxi driver came later on in 78 and 79.
So here's Bruce Lee fighting for his line.
I mean, if you look at the films, it got released.
from 70 to 73, 74.
So he's going up against major...
He was going up against major firms.
Now, when he came out with the United States,
when he came out with Warner Brothers,
it was a complete different game.
He had hundreds of millions of dollars of advertising.
People were waiting for Bruce Lee,
and all of a sudden the word got out, he died,
which made the fucking movie even bigger,
10 days before he comes out.
But to answer your question, now I know where you're coming from.
If you didn't grow up, a Bruce Lee fan, Thiss of Fury, Chinese Connection, Return to the Dragon,
you're going to see the shit production.
You're going to see it because you're just like, you don't have,
there's not a nostalgic thing going on there.
But enter the dragon.
If you don't know Bruce Lee at all, and that's the first thing you see,
that stands at test time.
That's high quality production right there.
Right.
But there's also a point to be made for him.
taking over the country, it seemed like.
Like, how could an eight-year-old boy not
love this dude going
in and just destroying an entire dojo?
When I came from
Cuba,
on the weekends, my mom
always did things.
She always did
different things, and then we go back to the
bar. And I still don't know
being a little boy and stopping at a gas station.
In those days, golf,
golf, that gas station golf,
you got a notebook.
and every time you go in and then got gas
they gave you a coin
and if you filled the fucking notebook
up with the coins you got something
and I never forget that I got those coins
and I wanted to win something
but it didn't matter because the green
hornet was coming out at 7
I still remember going home
as a 4 or 5 year old
and watching this Chinese guy and going
wow. Before he made his movies
he actually had it was on an American show
the Green Hornet
he was a sidekick he was like Batman Robin
He was Robin.
He was wrong.
He was wrong.
On the Green Hornet.
And then once that show got canceled, really quick, like within maybe two seasons, it got canceled.
Not even. Not even.
It got canceled.
So then he went to China to, I think.
His father died.
Yeah.
And that's when they approached him.
And next thing, he left his family here and went over there and he shot those films.
Because in China, the fact that there was a Chinese guy on an American show, Kato.
They know who he was.
He was huge in China.
He was huge in China.
From a shitty little show, he was fucking huge.
He was a hero.
He shows up in China, and that's when the movie houses started.
Raymond Chow, I think, was his name.
He signed him and started.
And the first movie, he was supposed to be a co-star.
First movie, he wasn't the main guy.
But after a couple weeks of filming,
and he just fucking took over the camera work and the fight choreography.
So the producer said, okay, we're going to rewrite the script a little bit.
This motherfucker, this guy is going to be the star.
They changed it in the first movie.
He just took over.
They're like, oh, shit, that's the motherfucking man.
So they redid everything.
And then from that point on, it was just, he was on an ascension to, like, fucking.
But that, you see how now, like, people eat assaye bowls.
Right.
People would eat outside bowls.
They wouldn't give a fucking good shit.
But since it's a Brazilian jih Tzu thing, people eat them.
It's a Brazilian culture thing.
Right.
Well, the same thing.
happened in this country and Bruce Lee took
over. And I said it one time
in the Arii thing. He
represented all
immigrants. So I want
you to think of a different time.
You know, you had Charles Bronson.
What colors Charles Bronson?
White as shit. What colors Cornice was?
Same thing.
You know, so
we really didn't
have, we had shaft.
Black people had shaft.
Chico and the man.
Chico and the man came in 78, 78.
you know 77 but right that when bruce lee came along he represented everybody who was the little guy hope
he represented something else but what all the other thing you saw was martial arts was
became fucking huge like i saw a magazine black belt go from 30 pages to 100 you know like now
people were into it judo schools were opening up
Kung Fu schools are opening up.
Karate schools were opening up.
Taekwondo schools were still, nobody was still into Taekwondo.
Taekwondo is that dude down the corner.
They charge 85 instead of 100.
Not even.
It's bullshit.
I think I paid 50 to go to Goshen Roo Karate in those days, unlimited.
But it made everybody more aware.
You know, everybody wanted to be.
It's funny because they were talking about gym wars.
you know people always talk about the gym wars that you know down in brazil and AT&T and fucking uh and uh what's this other one up here aka you know and i remember that in our neighborhood which is much like eddies in a lot of ways not everybody went to the same karate school
so Mario Diaz went to food job pie kung fu uh this other kid from up the block went to like goju karate
I went to Goshenru
and this kid Glenn Colon was a black belt
and three things at the time
and everybody would eat dinner
and we meet at
Mario Diaz was a Chinese
Cuban kid. His last name was spelled
with an E
and we would go to his basement
and we'd each do a form
somebody would teach a form
from their school like
on Mondays Eddie you teach something today
that on Wednesday you would teach something
so we'd all learn something from each other's school
and then after about an hour with Eddie
it was on
it was on when you're 12 and 13
you don't feel dick
it was on
we broke those walls
we threw each other to the old sheet rock
walls he wouldn't let the father
down there he would have to put boxes
around the wall
I'll never forget he called me one day
because it's over my father found
there was holes everywhere we used to hang
the maki rahors up you know what they are
Maki Haramaki Rawhara is a skinny thing with a little two-inch thing and you stand in front of it and throw fucking punches and shit.
So we had all the beams all fucked up.
We tried to hang a heavy bag down there.
But the point of story is, Eddie, I used to leave there bleeding from my mouth every fucking night.
Like they would fuck you up.
You know, a little bit fight club.
It was a fight club without black eyes and shit like that.
You know, what would happen is.
you would be light sparring.
Okay.
And all of a sudden,
Eddie would kick me a little harder
than what he's been kicking me.
You know what I'm saying?
So now I got to hit Eddie a little harder
to just let him know.
And now it becomes this,
and there was no head gear.
There was no hanged things.
It was just us.
No mouthguards?
Mouth guards, yes.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Mouth guards, yes.
But it's just so crazy.
I went through that whole thing.
I swallowed a growth.
No Brazilian jiu jitza.
None.
The most.
foreign thing there was, there was a black
dude in the Bronx
that taught Cevatt,
the French kicking art of kicking.
That was as crazy as it got.
How crazy is it that
even during that time, in Brazil
jiu jiu jutsu was huge.
You know? All through, I mean, the whole,
you know, I guess
from the 20s on, really,
that was a Brazilian jiu jihitsu scene
going on, and the world
did not know about this.
But America had not seen it.
America had not seen.
it. But if you really watch
Chinese connection,
he gets Bruce Lee and an arm bar
and Bruce Lee bites his way out.
No, no, no. In the Chinese connection
and enter the dragon
in the first scene. He puts a dude in an armbard.
It puts a dude in an armbar. It was a shitty
arm bar. Whatever it was.
You could see that he was
in the ground. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
You could see that he was already knew what it
was. Yeah. I wonder
if he knew what the Brazilians were doing.
I wonder if he knew about every heard about the
grace. He had to have, right? He was this famous martial artist. He hung out with the most famous of people.
He had to have known a Brabara's on Jutza, but he learned, for sure, he learned some grappling from
Jean LeBelle. He learned a lot of grappling. There's, like, famous stories where him and Gene were
kind of fucking around, and Gene LeBelle kind of just tossed him up a little bit with grappling.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but how is it, is it okay to compare Bruce Lee to Hoyler for the U of
because I was watching like that
look back because I don't
I didn't see that whole other match
I don't know anything about it
The big question
The big question is Bruce Lee
The demonstrations
Okay
He did the one inch punch
And he must have done a lot of the things
Bruce Lee was a great martial artist
For the movies
And nobody ever saw him fight in the ring
You know
Never in the ring
But he did fight people on set
Because a lot of the got
The extras were actual actual
actual fighters
and they try to challenge him
and there's been many stories
where he fucked people up like for real
like but not in a sport
in a cage or in a ring or anything like
he wasn't into that
there wasn't no fucking phones with cameras
so nobody ever got to see those
before it so when when you look at Bruce Lee
you have to look at Bruce Lee through
two different sets of eyes
the reason why it's very hard to sell
Bruce Lee to somebody of your age
is because
he's just a Chinese guy that's a
martial obviously. He did three movies.
His kicks were tremendous,
whatever, but the production value
and shit stuns you a little bit
as a young guy. Hey, when I was 20,
I would not even think of watching a black and white
movie. The only black and white thing I watched was the
Honeymovers. Twilight Zone.
The Twilight Zone.
But that's,
for me, if somebody
came to me and said, I want to start watching
movies, give me 10 movies.
I would recommend Chinese connection.
and then to the dragon.
Definitely.
Without even fucking thinking twice
because they had to see it.
But they would go, yeah, it was great.
Bruce Lee was great.
The other end of Bruce Lee was because he opened up
a big spectrum in this country.
He gave people
little guys a chance.
Little guys joined karate.
Karate schools went from having three students
to 25 fucking students.
Tournaments started flourishing,
you know, flourishing.
You know, the classes were packed.
It was all the impact of Bruce Lee.
All those little sayings he would say and everything.
When Bruce Lee died, that was a hard time for me in my house.
Already I was going to Chinatown and buying the white shirts with the blue and the shoes.
Where would you wear those?
Just out?
Everywhere.
To school.
They thought I was fucking retarded.
I can't believe you were.
I would wear them to my mom's bar.
I would get goofed on by the customers at the bar.
I didn't give it.
fuck Eddie. I loved it. I loved
the whole thing when it stood for.
It made people get out of the
house and work out, you know, and
made people throw kicks.
It also made people go crazy
like USC crazy.
You know, everybody you got into a
pushing match then, got into a
cat stance and wanted to throw a karate kick
at you. So now
you're like, Jesus fucking Christ,
everybody I'm fighting is a
fucking black belt. And they really
weren't. They were all just doing what they were
mimicking from the movies, you know.
Right.
And that's more what I meant with Hoyler is just the...
I mean, Hoyse.
Hoyer's his brother.
Hoyer's his brother.
Hoyer's with the just like the feeling around it, getting like getting people excited
about it, getting people going to juditia classes like that.
Yeah, Hoyce definitely changed the world like in a whole different kind of way.
He, the first UFC I saw, I was doing karate and I immediately dropped it and started doing
Jiu-Jitsu, like that just blew
Jiu-Jitsu out the water
would hoist it.
That was revolutionary.
I mean, I mean, it's been
going on with yourself forever. We didn't know
about it. Nobody knew about it. He came along
and gave martial arts
even a broader view.
People had been coming over the years
and giving little peaks
into different styles of martial arts
or martial arts they developed.
But he really
you know
fucking
uh
gave it a different view
this is jujitsu
here's this guy that's
Joe Dia's his size
and he's on top
whatever
and this guy gets out of it
and then triangles
the guy I don't know what the fuck
the moves he was doing
but that's what I saw
and I'm like that's fucking amazing
even though there's no striking
because that must be hard
especially no striking
there's no striking in juditsu
with like Bruce Lee
you get it's like it's a little bit more
visually exciting even if you don't know anything
about karate but no hoist gracie
was the first guy in the ufs
first ufc champion right no no no obviously
in the ufc yes i'm just
i just meant jujitsu as an art
yeah there's no punching jiu jitsu as an art as a sport
because you
brain damage you know right most people
99 999 9999 of the world
including myself they don't want to go
into a goddamn cage and go to
very few people have the balls to do
that. But the rest of the world still
appreciates the martial arts
and jiu-jitsu especially
if they're into it. So jiu-jitsu is a way
to
it's like playing again. It's like wrestling, but
instead of wrestling, the
objective is to panic eyes shoulders to the ground for
three seconds, jiu-jitsu, it's sort of like that
except the goal is to
make someone tap out. And when you make someone tap
out, it's because you put them in a chokehold or
some kind of joint lock.
And that, you know, although there's no striking, just that alone is pretty badass.
Because you got, you know, the game of trying to make someone tap out is, it's incredible.
You get addicted to it and you get obsessed with it because the better you get at that game,
that game translates the real life.
Even though there's no striking in the dojo, I'll put, you know, if you do jiu-jitsu for a couple of years,
the odds are in a street fight against a guy who doesn't do jiu-jitsu.
The odds are so much in your favor.
So much.
Even though you've never thrown a strike in the dojo.
No punches, no elbows, but you've been doing Jiu-Jitsu for two years on the street.
Even though they're risk striking, if your jiu-jitsu is on point,
you're not going to need striking to immobilize, you know, this douchebag, you know?
I hate to talk about this on the show because I don't like to centralize the show.
If you watched Anderson against Daniel Cornmeal.
last night.
You know, everybody's saying that Daniel
Kormier should have done a lot more damage.
His Jiu-Jitsu
kept throwing his balance off.
Anderson Silva's Jiu-Suh?
Yeah, Anderson-Silver's J-Gur-Wong. He got him in the lockdown
throw a lot of things. I don't understand all the other
variations of his style of J-Jitsu,
but I saw that, but I saw that
he kept around his balance-off.
You know, just that
tech, just that little thing about
Jiu-Jitsu. He's been doing
Jiu-Jitsu, I don't know on hand. This is so, but
20 years. Something like, nah, I don't know
about 20. I would say more like 15.
Let's say 15. Jesus
Christ, in Brazil.
Do you know what he knows, Lee?
Even if you break both
his wrist and he grabs your legs
like that.
He survived. He survived.
He lost the fight, but you know what? He didn't get knocked out.
He didn't get hurt. His jiuetsu
helped him survive.
Well, don't you think that is also just
to point out how good Korme
is that he held down Anderson?
Like, I don't think that...
Korme is an Olympic wrestler.
Right, yeah, he's a...
So he did, by getting on top,
by taking Anderson Silva down,
jujitsu isn't the art of not getting taken down.
So if it was,
if Jiu Jitsu was the art of not getting taken down
against wrestling,
which is the art of taking someone down,
then yes,
Daniel Kormier beat Anderson style.
But that's not the style.
The style, jiu-jitsu is just get the fight to on the ground.
It's better to be on top.
But if you're on your back and your jiu-jitsu is decent, you still got game.
And here is, you can look at it.
Make no mistake about it.
Daniel Cormair beat Anderson-Silva, but he didn't finish him.
And Anderson-Silva is mostly known for striking.
His jiu-jitsu is like, oh, he's his backup plan.
He's never trying to do jiu-jitsu.
He was a striker who started learning jiu-jitsu because he was in M-M-A.
You have to.
but that's not his forteus.
Forteus striking.
But he knew Jiu-Jitsu good enough, and he is a black belt,
to survive an Olympic wrestler's onslaught of strikes.
Daniel Karmia could have thrown as many elbows to the face as he wanted to.
You could have punched him a thousand times in the face if he wanted to.
You could have taken him down him just, but he didn't.
He took him down and got wrapped up and tied up,
and it wasn't some rand-up tie-ups.
It was specific jiu-jitsu tie-ups to survive.
Some guy trying to bash you down.
some giant Olympic wrestler
wanted to
if he could have put 10 elbows
right through Anderson's face
he would have did it but he couldn't
I mean I
found the fight it wasn't as entertaining
as I would have liked it but there was no difference
between that fight and the
Rock Lesnar fight yeah you're right it wasn't
it wasn't very entertaining at all again that's
not I was talking about survival
the survival that he did
entertainment yeah it was pretty
I wasn't if if if if fucko would have done what Anderson did in half guard and did the lockdown he wouldn't have got punched in the face 15 times right because the kid wouldn't be able to set up
he would not be able to fucking set up first of all he's got a fucking mountain for his stomach right away you're off balance
right away you're off balance so if he would have locked his knees together and just fucking hip bump himself
he would have had a mount again
right when he's going to throw a point, fucking hip bumping him again.
Right.
Hip bump him again.
That's what Anderson was doing.
Anderson was picking him up.
He was two inches away.
He can't go back and hit him.
When somebody comes to me and they go,
what do you think of this fight?
I repeat you that guy.
And I always go with the guy
who's got the black belt and jiu-jitsu.
If he's got some fucking coral stripes,
I even go with him more.
Because I know he's been in hell.
I know he's been in hell.
He's been in hell.
a thousand times.
Those guys are in fucking hell.
Once you see him at the brown belt level,
they're not even breathing heavy.
Eddie doesn't even breathe it.
Eddie teaches and fucking looks around like a Momo and looking.
And, you know, that's just a complete different gift.
So I always used that.
I knew.
I either thought Anderson was going to go out there and knock him the fuck out
or they were going to ground him down until he got him down.
And I could see that he wouldn't let him.
He's a fucking professional.
Anderson Silva wasn't the champion for seven years because he sucked guys.
Right.
Okay, so that's what, you know, the advantage is.
Even as a fucking blue belt, you can throw people with balance off.
Once you get to the brown belt level, that's the first thing that goes is your balance.
You're like, what the fuck am I doing all the way over here?
I'm across the fucking room.
It's just a beautiful art.
It's just a beautiful fucking art.
How many stripes you got on your belt right now?
Three.
You got three stripes.
But I'm terrible.
You're almost good today.
You're almost good today.
You're almost, you're trying today?
You're fucking shit.
What?
Did you get a submission today?
No, I did something better than submission.
Would you do pass?
Two deep half fucking flings.
Part of my deep half is I throw the motherfuckers.
None wrong with that.
I'm not holding on to them and recovering my guard.
That's what I should be doing, get them into side control.
from that fucking...
So once you're sweeping, what happens?
They're three feet away from me.
But you're not on top
and you sweep them, but you don't get on top
and control them? They're three feet away from me.
They land three feet away from me. I've got to figure something
the fuck.
You got to try to tell you.
You got to not use so much power.
So I clinch my knees, and I
mess around with them, and I try
to control them with my knees, clenched,
and then they fall for the bait, and I
stick my hand under that leg,
and I pick them up, and I try to get the leg,
and I hide this arm, and then I
walk this way and then I spin real
fucking quick. But that
little spin has been throwing them up my loop
and I got to start all over again. Man, I want to see
video you rolling, man. I want to see... No, it's
terrible. Horrifically bad. Horrifically
bad. Oh, come on. Oh,
horrifically bad. But you know
what? Man, I'm going to do the surgery to breathe a little
better. I think I'm going to go see
a nutrition and really work it down
to the centimeter. Do you
generally get a submission each time
you roll? One?
Maybe one. Every other class? One. One. At least.
I'm going for submissions.
Which is the submission that you get more often?
The most popular submission I go on is I trick people with the...
I love the college show.
I'm a fat dude.
So I ain't doing much out of the ordinary.
My game is not going to be much of the ordinary.
So I try to put one hook into your right side.
And then I fake.
Like, I'm going to go for the fucking arm.
bar and I pull
and before he
knows it I get my other hook in there
and I let my leg help in my guard
and I swing to that sound like a fucking gorilla
so it's 300 pounds hanging
on your neck anyway
and I just try to sneak my hand up
every time I go for an arm bar
fuck it up do you ever get that bow and arrow choke from the back
you ever do that one you ever get someone's back and choke
them it's funny the other day I was
on Joe's podcast and we were talking about my
Roy Nelson doesn't get
people's back when you're a heavy guy it's very hard to get people's back this
really gets in the way so you're very rarely I don't know I haven't never
really seen a big heavier type guy take a lot of backs you know it's too many
steps even the arm bar is too many steps for me if I got you in that compromise
sometimes I put my knee over your belly but it's to trick you into a Camorra
I don't really go for arm bars I don't like drop on my back like that
besides if I get you right I might break your arm by mistakes so I don't even fuck with those I like triangles that's what I have to do fake the arm bar and go for triangles I got strong legs from the mount from the bottom I'm trying to work on the bottom yeah I don't like nothing on top to me that's not what I got involved in the art for the art for me was to learning to be really good from the bottom you know to learn to be really good from the bottom every time I'm in
class, I always take the quickest people.
And they pass my guard and fuck me up, but I don't
give a fuck, because eventually I'm going to get them.
I'm going to figure out how to do my
legs and give me my extra inch.
You know, Matt Baker, your buddy
has a good point. If you're not on your back, they
can't pass your guard.
So it's kind of weird. I'm trying to put all that
stuff together. So
nice. It's a journey
for me, man. But at the same
time, it's helping my stand up, and it's helping
me because, like I told somebody
else I was sitting here, when you
When you go to karate, you fucking figure out you can't throw a kick six feet.
So your coach says on the weekends hang a hook on your fucking roof
and put a strap and hang your leg and stretch your legs a little more.
You don't have enough punching power in karate if you're a Cucas and karate guy.
So they make you do bench presses and hit more stuff, you know.
When I joined Jiu-Jitsu, I found out I couldn't do a lot of those stuff that was physically.
But the mental part of it was the part that I was really disappointed with myself
because I had this fear of people on top of me.
And that's the worst thing I hate is when I have fear or something.
Some things you have fear of and you put them together in your head and you go,
you know what?
I can deal with that when it comes with.
But somebody getting on top of you, that can happen any day
when you're walking on the street with your daughter and your wife and your child.
And what are you going to do?
You're not going to know what to do.
I'm going into my 50s.
There's no way I'm going to karate chop you
doing a flying sidekick through the fucking
hell. But
if I could single you and throw
you down and get on top of you, put my
shoulder on you and put my
forearm in your neck, I got three minutes to get to the
car before you even see your Adam's apples
coming out of your fucking asshole.
You know, breaking
somebody's arm real quick and getting in the car.
I like those little things about
Jiu Jitsu, choking somebody,
you could choke somebody with a
the jacket. It's a collard choke.
Yep.
T-shirt. It's a college
show, you know, with a fucking t-shirt.
So these are all the things that
I'm getting older that
I didn't want to have those fears.
I didn't know that my
cardio was just horrific from
smoking reaper and becoming
a vertical breather. I had no idea
about these things that popped up in my
life at 40. There's no
way I could be a father and have these shortcomings.
There was no way.
What the way? The shape of the
world today. I got to be able to run 10 minutes.
I'm at a park and they start shooting,
Eddie. You got to pick your kid
up and run with that fucking,
she's 50 fucking pounds or something.
She's a human kettlebell.
So what I do is when I walk her to school,
I pick her up and I walk with her
this first block. And my goal
is to make it to the office. I don't even make it to
the office, but I make it like
three doors down and shit like that.
Because those are the fears
I couldn't have with a daughter.
man it's it's amazing hearing i didn't really uh know this before me you're really you're really
looking at at fatherhood in um in a super realistic way like you know what i mean you got to you
now you got a daughter you got to be able to protect her but you know that's what i tell people
all the time like just at the very least there's a lot of things you could do you can learn
jiu jitsu for but at the very least to protect your family at the very least you want to
protect your family if some shit goes down
You're out at the movies.
You're in line.
You're with your kid.
There's a fucking douchebag and something's going down.
I mean, who knows if the jiu jitza is going to work all the time,
but you got to do what you got to do or can do to shift the odds in your favor.
And just one year of jih Tijuana, just one year and time flies so fast.
How many times in the UFC?
I don't even, I'm the name two off the bat.
How many times have you seen somebody take a punch get over something?
body, overcommit, and get trapped in an arm bar.
I've seen two. How about you?
Few times.
Radar against Redoom.
And Joe Lozahn had one. That was textbook.
I think against the black kid.
Like an arm bar from the guard? Is that what you're talking about?
But after I punch you in the fucking mouth, hard, I go backwards.
I hold on to that arm right there as I'm going back.
I pull you into me.
I overcommit you.
You're like, you fucking idiot.
You grab my wrist.
I start hitting you with this,
and I've seen Joe Loz on arm bar somebody
when he's getting beat the fuck up.
And I also seen Fadol punching away
and fucking Verduny nailed him with an arm bar.
Nogera and Mark Coleman.
There you go.
So I figured that that's a great protection thing right there.
You could take one punch,
which we all can,
and fall backwards,
and suck this guy in,
and for him to grab you with three,
beers in him or whatever
the fuck drug he has in him
he doesn't even see your hand going around
and pulling your elbow and next
thing you know your leg swings around and you
fucking lean back and pick up your hips and you
hear ah you fuck
you fuck you pull your leg around you stick your boot
in his fucking mouth and you kick the rest of his
fucking teeth out while he's
yelling and shock you get in your car and you go on
nobody knows nothing you pull three blocks away you see a
homeless doing the trade of sneakers hey
about a brand new pair of it.
They got a red stripe that means you're a fucking animal, you know what I'm saying?
And you have to look at little things like that when you have a family.
And when you get older, you don't want no fears.
I didn't want no fucking fears every time I got on my back.
I would think the world was that thing any problem.
I thought the world was that thing any problem.
You did a lot of working out and athletic stuff when you were younger.
You always say you wish you did you did Tia and you were younger.
Why do you think you didn't do it?
Or something.
It wasn't available.
Nothing.
You didn't.
Jitsu became available.
93, 94.
Not for me.
I lived in Boulder at that time, and I was taking Taekwana, Teng Sudo,
or Muda Kwan.
It wasn't available yet in Boulder.
It didn't become available to me until I moved to Los Angeles.
And then a year later, I met you.
It became available to me, but I don't know what the fuck you were talking about.
It's between doing a fucking unborn, snort and coke.
Your arm's going to be.
to work tonight. I'm saying. I ain't fucking
coming down to add 6.30 at night.
Having a kid
will make you think about stuff
like that, though, for sure.
I mean, I remember
taking Draco when he's one
even younger, just in a
stroller every day taking him for a walk, and there was
this one dog that was
behind a fence in our neighborhood that would
come up and bark, and
man, it was a German
shepherd. The thing would probably
fuck me up. But when
My son's there, there'd be no fear.
I could just imagine just grabbing that dog's jaw and just breaking it open.
You know what I mean?
Like, when you have a kid, there is no fear.
If Mike Tyson came up to you and fucked with your kid,
you'd jump on that motherfucker without a hesitation.
There wouldn't even be a delay, you know?
When you have a kid, you just jump in and you just go to war or die.
Well, for me, it was a lot of other things.
It was, I was getting a kid.
so I wanted a new beginning for myself of doing something.
And I also wanted to do something that was hard for me.
That wasn't easy.
The last thing I ever did that was hard for me was comedy.
That just wasn't easy.
You know, today I woke up this morning.
I got up early.
I did some right and I got really stoned.
And I, my fucking knee got tight.
My wife left for church.
I went to the weed store.
I went to CVS to pick up my peasant.
prescriptions. Then I went to the weed store, but I left my cell phone on the car. And, uh, you know, I'm getting
surgery tomorrow. I may have to take two weeks from jih Tzu, Eddie. I can't tell you how bad I feel
because I've been on a roll for the last six months over there. On a roll, on a roll. Like, not killing people,
but at least I'm showing up. Yeah. It's been consistent, you know, nothing like being consistent. He sees me
twice a week if I'm in town, three times if I'm fucking not working. Four times. You're not working. Four times.
if the Sunday class, because the Sunday class is my favorite class, because I always learned
something small. You know what I'm saying? Like last Sunday, I learned how to do a proper hip
escape after three fucking years. Like, I always learned something small, stupid, but that's how good
that guy is on Sundays. And now I've got to take off for two weeks, which means I'm going to be
huffing and fucking puffing and popping all over again now when I go and get in anxiety. That's the last
thing I wanted to fucking do.
I always saw wanted my daughter
to be old enough and
for me to show my daughter that I was doing
something. You know what I'm saying?
That three days a week I have a responsibility
to do something. And she'll
say eventually, where the fuck do you go?
And you have to explain to how
you go to Jitsu. And then she'll say
let me come with you one time.
And you go down there
and she sees it and maybe she'll get
involved in something. Maybe it's not
Jiu Jitsu. Maybe it's Taekwondo.
but at least you're setting an example
for your child. Yeah, I'm saying?
Yeah. It was all those little
variables, man. I wanted
to do something I had never done before.
I'm not going to go wrestle. I can't get
thrown down. I tell that I'm on
300 fucking bounds.
I'm not going to go learn how to shoot a bow and arrow
because I don't want to go fucking
hunting for a week and kill animals and
shit. So I had to find something else.
I had to find something close to my
house. I had to find something that wasn't
a very competitive school.
where people are going to go and take my fucking head off and break my arm.
I can't work.
I can't fucking work with a broken arm.
An accident's happening.
You know what I'm saying?
The accident fucking happened.
You land wrong, your wrist.
And jiu-jitsu is the answer for me, I think.
You know?
And I'm too old to do no fucking gie.
They'll kill me.
I see those people.
I did it one time by all this.
They grabbed my neck.
My whole body stopped.
That's a time I put the fucking 2x rash guard.
And that tapped me out.
A fucking 2x
That's how fat I was
A 2X rash guard
Tap me out
I had to have all to come in the back
And take it off
I can't fucking breathe
With this goddamn thing
It's funny
But I enjoy it
As you saw
I brought copies of Jiu-Jitsu magazine
I read that on planes
Like an asshole
And I look at little moves
And I basically get it
For the diets in there
Little nourishment tips
I got
Get really good nourishment tips in there
Everything else
I can't do what
Andre Galval does
You know what I look at I go
That's great
Thanks for the move, Andre.
I can't do that type of shit.
Where's Tony Bennett, cocksucker?
You can take a little break?
What?
You didn't take a little break?
No, we just do this.
Ten minutes and we come back with a new subject, wait.
Oh, let me go pee again.
Jesus Christ, Almighty.
Jesus Christ, because you're drinking beers, cocksucker.
You got to take little sips of water.
Are you ready for another start?
Absolutely.
Fuck, yeah.
As you used to do with me.
You got to eat these stars.
I can't be eating stars this week.
Maybe Wednesday will eat some stars.
That's going to be, you have to wait until Wednesday?
I don't know.
Let's see what I feel.
I was going to say that's good.
Let me give some shout out to my main man, the Lalingis's.
Uki-Spochuki, always getting my back, that sexy bitch.
I saw your boy, Freddie Correa in Vegas with his beautiful wife.
My man, one-by-one podcast holding it down.
Tracy up there in Canada looking sexy and a motherfucker.
Crystal Johnson looking sexy.
My main man, Timmy Holloway and Timmy Jr.
Mike Land and my man Raymond Basio,
son of the fucking greatest drummer, Terry Basio.
I'm going to give you a fucking shout out to.
Don't forget the next.
No Expectations tour.
Start 7th, July 21st.
I'm flappers in the Yul Room, 50 people.
I'm just going to be trying out my shit.
If you can make it come down and not,
I'm doing it to get in the following week.
I will announce the rest of those fucking dates.
How's that for you?
Very exciting.
It's going to be interesting watching you build a special.
I'm very excited about it.
Well, the set I had in Vegas on Friday wasn't that good.
I tried some new stuff.
it's missing the Diaz umf
so I gotta find something with more fucking umph
norton you ain't umph and hard enough
but just from the surgery
you've been pissing this much or this is always
I don't know maybe it is a surgery
I don't know but fuck I always piss a lot
so the other day I'm reading an article
on BJJ uh Jiu Jitsu
in the magazine
and they're talking about different
tournaments. First off, congratulations on EBI.
Thank you very much.
Saturday night at 7 o'clock.
Yep.
Pacific Standard time on UFC Fight Pass.
And that's where they could order it.
That's where they can pay it or whatever in order it.
You could, if you have UFC Five Pass, it's free.
Or if you just, if you don't want UFC Fight Pass and you want just to watch EBI,
you can order it at UFC.tv one-time deal.
I think it's $999.
You don't have to commit to Fight Pass.
You've got animals again.
this year. Eddie Cummings.
Yeah, we're doing the feather weights for EBI 7.
Eddie Cummings is the champ.
Gio Martinez is coming back.
He's the former champ.
Joe Soto's coming back.
He was in the finals when Cummings got the belt.
Raphael Domingos is dropping down to 45.
Denny Procopos is dropping down to 45.
We got the return of Bill Cooper.
He was the baddest American Jiu-Jitsu player, you know, 8, 10 years ago.
And he's back.
He's in incredible shape.
Aura Maradian, who's a go-court Chevichian's top featherweight, super leglock guy.
You got Chad George, who's a black belt slash MMA fighter.
Barrett Rashid is going to be in there.
Alex Eklund.
Oh, Mikey Main.
Sergio Hernandez, who has the craziest style ever.
He's got Eddie Cummings first round.
Sergio Hernandez and Eddie Cummins.
The first fight of the night is going to be insane.
Sergio Hernandez has got a style that no one.
and can prepare for.
I mean, he's just donkey guard
slash rubber side
mount slash reverse closed guard.
I've rolled with the guy.
It's insane. His styles, the first
match, EBI 7 next
Saturday on Fight Pass is going to be fucking crazy.
And plus, we have some special matches with the
return of Grace Gundrum.
I'm trying to find the best girls
to go to the best girls for
How old is Grace not? She's 13.
She's crazy. So we got, you know,
Raphael Mendez is right now,
the best jiu-jitsu guy on the planet, his prodigy,
Janelle Takachik, that's the best girl I could find,
and that's the best school around right now
as far as like the IBJF tournaments.
She's going to jump in, and we're going to see how she does against Grace.
Maybe Grace gets smoked.
I don't know.
I'm on a quest to find out how good Grace really is,
because she just amazes me with her skill and her decision-making
and her technique.
It's pretty crazy that a 13-year-old girl can be.
She's like a virtuoso,
You know, those 13-old violets who shred.
They don't shred for a 13-year-old.
They shred period.
They're just amazing.
And that's what she is.
She's a jiu-jitsu prodigy, and we'll see how good she really is against A.O.J.,
the art of jih Tzu, Raphael Mendez School, their best 13-year-old.
And that's going to be right before the finals.
Who knows who's going to be in the finals of the guy tournament?
It could be Eddie Cummings versus Joe Soto or Gio Martinez or Barry Ishida.
But right before we find out the champion of that night, which there's $20,000 up for the, that's the grand prize, we're going to see Grace Gundrum versus Janelle Takachuk.
That right there is going to, that could steal the whole show right there.
Now, in your wildest imaginations, did you ever think there was even going to be in the EBI 7?
No, man, I really didn't.
I didn't know there'd be an EBI too.
I didn't.
I was never planning to be a fight prize.
motor type guy. It just fucking happened. I just fell right into it. Just started a, just trying to
think of a rule set in Jiu-Jitsu that would be entertaining for the average UFC fan. The average guy
that doesn't train Jiu-Jitsu likes to UFC, there's millions and millions and millions of UFC fans. Jiu-Jitsu is a
huge part of the UFC. Why isn't there any UFC or Jiu-Jitsu shows that can, you know, cater to like 10%
of those UFC fans.
We're like 15, 20%,
but in reality,
it's less than 1%
of UFC fans
are interested in Jiu-Jitsu show.
And for me,
I think the reason is
the point system.
A point system is not
fan-friendly.
It's great to develop skills,
certain skills like guard passing
and sweeping.
The point system really emphasizes that.
That's the most important part
of the point game
is those sweeps and those passes.
That's got to be fucking on point
you want to win.
points championship and which is a beautiful thing sweeping and passing it's huge super
important you enuminated that no no no mission only oh you do get points for no no you don't
get any point right you don't get passing is still important but you don't get points for it right
you don't get points for you eliminate it's a mission only yeah it's no points at all which is really
interesting because I like I said I read an article in there that you could break down for me a
little more because I don't know Jiu lingo and I said that they're doing more tournaments
I with EBI rules and I was like fucking Eddie's on to something if all these people are doing I think there's two other tournaments happening with EBI rules there's a lot of tournaments that have adopted EBI there's a bunch there's a bunch and I I want them to use it use it I don't own those rules just use it let's let's make Jiu Jitsu fun again you know because really submission only is what Jiu Jitsu really is when you when you train Jiu Jitsu at your school no one's keeping track of points you're trying to submit each other
It's submission only is not new.
It's what jiu-jitsu is.
It's the essence of jiu-jitsu.
The point system, that's like unnatural jiu-jitsu.
But again, the point system, I believe, is important
because it does stresses certain skills.
And passing and sweeping is very important.
So do points tournaments to focus on those very important parts of jiu-jitsu.
Keep that.
I'm not trying to stomp out point tournaments.
I think point tournaments are important.
But they're just not fan-framing.
You can't put points tournaments on TV.
like chess. I always use this analogy.
Chess is a very cerebral game, very prestigious,
noble people play chess, kings and queens play chess,
but you just can't put chess on TV.
You're not going to put the world champion.
I can ask you a question.
How long is EBI?
What do you mean the show?
How long is the production of EBI?
Like one show is...
Give me red on round ball again.
Give me a pistol Pete or Julius serving.
I don't give a fuck who you get me.
Just give me a red on round ball.
How long is the whole production show?
of, because this is the problem I have.
How long is the whole production of E.
It could be any, we've had shows that
it lasted two and a half hours.
Okay, I'm a downtown in between.
How much downtime in between?
We generally not that much downtime at all.
We just, we bang them out, we go, pop, pop,
we don't have time, no waste.
I go to your fucking EBI.
It's exciting.
It's in a beautiful theater.
The lighting is beautiful.
But after the first whistle, I'm just sitting there watching Chinese because I'm not up to that advanced part of Jiu-Jitsu.
There's nothing wrong with you or anybody.
I just don't really know much about let loss.
I don't like people touching my fucking feet.
That's why I'll never become a blue belt.
I'll stall that white belt for the next 10 fucking years.
I'll get four and a half and three-quarter stripes.
You understand me?
Yeah.
I just don't like it.
I don't know.
I just don't like people touching my feet.
I got fungi on the toe.
You don't touch my foot.
I won't touch your feet.
Hit it, Lee.
Now, it's so funny that, uh, uh,
uh,
Oh, it right there.
Before we tell you why,
these thumbs are down,
the hands are extended.
This is Pete Maravich,
the greatest playmaker and passer in the game today.
From Theo Vrons' hometown.
Also playing with the New Orleans jazz.
Notice.
the fingers. Notice the wrist. Notice the hand. It's firm, finger spread, follow through.
Just on a simple chest pass. Now, Pete, in throwing that pass, do you really think about that
when you do it, or does it become automatic? Well, actually, it becomes automatic, but three
basic ingredients in throwing any type of pass is fingertip control, backspin, and follow through.
Do me a favor, Eddie. Yeah. Give me an intro and give me three moves. A minute of piece.
in between the fucking fights.
Oh, what leg locks are?
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
One minute apiece for a guy like me.
So if I go to Jiu-Jitsu,
when I'm telling you, I'm confused,
I love the game.
Well, the leg locks, see, the thing is
with submission only,
the main difference between submission only
and the points game is generally in the point community,
the leg locks are frowned upon.
They don't like leg locks.
In the what community?
I'm sorry.
But the average BJJ school is not into leg locks.
They don't teach leg locks.
They look at them as too dangerous, dirty.
They teach them, but they don't emphasize it.
They don't teach them or emphasize it.
I go to your school as a purple belt.
I learned this curriculum from Scott Ross,
Scott Myers, whenever it was fucking famous with the glasses.
I go to your advanced classes.
I get a brown belt.
My leg locks are good.
I go to Cabrini.
Okay.
Will I be fucking them up with my leg locks
And my style of Jiu-Jitsu
With those leg locks
You know, it all depends
You know
Does he work?
I mean, does he work on a lot of leg locks
In his school?
They don't know
They don't
Because in the points tournaments
They're illegal
So it's a waste of time
So if I put a guy on
And went to an IBGGF tournament
And I got a heel hook
No good
It's illegal
You get disqualified
No shit
Yeah
You can attack the legs
So I can't do that move
Where I put on
And do a Camora
and twist.
On your leg,
nope.
Even if I'm a purple belt.
Uh-uh.
No,
it's illegal,
generally.
When does it start
become legal?
You could do toeholds,
I think,
as a black belt.
You could do knee bars.
You could do nothing twisting
and no reaping the leg.
But in submission only,
you could do everything.
This is what you need to do.
How you doing?
My name is Eddie Bravo.
The 10th plan systems
is a little different
and advanced in more systems.
Let me show you the basic like what.
Boom.
Thank you.
Come back.
Defense for the best.
Like, why do they spend?
I don't even know what the fuck they spend.
And they're both holding each other's foot.
What the fuck?
I'm like, I got to hold your foot and spin all these little things.
That's them for me in 30 seconds.
And put them up.
It's hard to do in 30 seconds.
How about a fucking minute?
You're right.
You're right.
That's a great idea.
Just say it and then let's edit it.
Yeah.
It's like Twitter.
Yeah.
When I get on Twitter in the morning, I got your fuck your mother in the ass.
I hope bazookas.
But then you got a hundred hundred 80 characters.
You got to start chopping that A and that D and that B and eliminate that comma.
It's the same thing with these until the person gets educated.
That's where you'll have over any other people.
You know, and it's like, all right, I'm switching to the chat.
I got to think of BJJ in 2016 is a cuntail away from being on Sports Center at 2 in the morning.
If I got to sit down, anybody over here who gets hired to put on sports center to do karate?
with the swords and shit.
And you're sitting there going,
this is worthless.
These guys will get beat up.
Especially right now.
This is the worst time
to watch Sports Center
because it's hockey and that's it.
And a little in baseball,
a little bit of baseball.
So from now until Hawkins,
there's no football.
So what you mean to tell me is sports center?
Let me talk to you from the Art Sports Center people.
The fucking kennel show that you put on every year
with those ugly fucking dogs for four hours.
We can't slip a jit-to-thing in there for now.
Again,
it's got to be to go on.
television and to basically educate.
You know, the UFC educates you with the three-point system.
It's a scoring system.
There's three judges, but that's all you know.
The way I look at it, though, it's a great idea, but the way I look at it is if you're a UFC fan and you can follow the UFC and you understand what's going on in the ground, yes, EBI is more technical because it's all groundwork.
But I figure if you're a UFC fan, you'll understand this enough.
You'll get it.
I'm not generally thinking about attracting people that don't know anything about Jiu Jitsu.
Like them, they're going to have to catch up.
You know what I mean?
Right.
No, no, no, no.
It's like NFL.
It's like the NFL.
I'm not talking about that.
Yeah.
I'm talking about somebody who maybe isn't Jiu Jitsu and never seen it to that level.
Yeah.
You know, I'm talking about if you really, really, really want to put this on TV.
Yeah.
You got to break it down from somewhere.
Yeah.
You got to break it down from something.
The leg block game is, it's just as vast as,
Brazilian jiu-jitsu in itself.
You know, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, you attack the neck, you attack the arm.
Asombo is all legs.
It's the same thing, they're joint locks.
It's like, if you, you know, if you attack someone's shoulder or elbow,
it's the same thing as attacking someone's leg.
It's the same thing.
It's not like a different person.
It's your body.
You have limbs.
You have arms and legs, and you have your neck.
Jiu-Jitsu should be about all of it.
And the Gracie's on, especially on Helio's side,
with Hicks, and Horriott and Hoyce.
They attacked legs, not as deep and as vast as like what John Danorahar is done.
They took it to the next level.
You know, there's been Samba.
There's always been catch wrestling.
Who teaches at Black House down there?
I don't think there's actually teachers at Black House.
Yeah, they do.
I think.
Team Nogera, because Team Nogera has a Nogera down there, somebody.
Mike Maxwell was on that team.
Okay.
And I've had discussions on Mike Manple.
I don't even flop with this shit.
I just attack the legs.
They're right there.
Yeah.
I drink.
The great thing about legs is you don't, in Jiu-Jitsu, before you can think about a submission,
if you're on top, you've got to pass the guard.
If you can't pass the guard, very hard to get a submission.
There's still a couple things you can do, but generally, you have to pass the guard to submit.
And on the bottom, you know, generally, you can submit guys off your back,
but generally you want to sweep and pass.
But with leg locks, you don't have to sweep
and you don't have to pass to get a submission.
You can go for legs in any position anywhere.
You don't have to sweep or pass.
That's what he said.
He goes, why we're going to wrestle with you for 10 minutes?
Yeah.
I'm just going to fake and go out to the legs and that the party's over.
The problem is with leg locks, if you get too leglock heavy,
it's not the absolute smartest style for MMA.
Like if you're going for legs, that means, man,
You're not tying up your opponent's arms.
That means he could elbow you or punch you.
So in MMA, it's risky.
That's why I never really got heavy into leg locks until the last couple years.
But in the beginning of my 10th planet, we were always leglock friendly, always allowed leglock guys to go after and reap legs.
And I encouraged it.
But personally, for me, I didn't want to get too heavy with it only because I was focusing on more MMA style.
But, you know, now with the rise of submission-only game, I don't head first into leg locks.
And the whole 10-planet Jiu-Jitsu Association has been transformed.
We've always been heavy on the rubber guard and twister and lockdown stuff and electric chairs.
But now we're also heavy on leg locks.
Last country.
That's for him first.
Oh, really?
I'll give you the last one.
It's like that.
Who's the guest here?
He is tonight.
Trust me.
Lee likes these.
I don't mind going last.
I love leg locks, man
I'm sold
I'm 100% into it man
I love them
my students
like the girls are doing them
kids are doing them
we got everybody on leg locks
right away
kids are funny how you told me
a story when you were like
a blue bout
you went to a tournament
and you went for a heel hook
and people started throwing shoes
I went for a toll
because I used to be into toll
I saw Ken Shamrock video
a long time ago
he's in jeans with some Japanese
guy and he did a toehold
so this is like a 94
95 so I started
I was I was
a Toehold fiend
back in the day.
And the first
Pan Ams
in the States,
they shipped 500
Brazilians into El Segundo to do
the very first Pan Ams, and there was a bunch of
Brazilians. And I went for a tollhold, and
the riot started. The riot almost started.
They started throwing shoes and water bottles at me.
And Johnny Machado
comes, I have a toll, and everyone's going nuts
screaming at me and yelling, they were
doing Brazilian chants and throwing shoes.
And John Jock's brother, Johnny, come running, and he slides them back.
And I have the toe, I'm like, oh, shit, look what's going on.
Everyone's going nuts.
So I let it go, and the guy beat me.
But, yeah, leg locks are really frowned upon for a while.
Now they're more accepted.
But, you know, after seeing how high you can take the leglock game with Danor's done over the last 10, 15 years of leg locks, I'm like, shit, I want some of that.
So it takes your overall game to a whole other level.
Because, yeah, you want to pass, and yeah, you want to sweep,
but there's guys that you can't pass the guard,
and there's guys who can't sweep.
You're going to run into guys as you can't.
If you're really good at leg locks, you're still in the game.
You're like, fuck, the pass me, go after your legs.
And it's a whole different game.
It's a beautiful thing, man.
Jiu-jitsu and leg locks and samba all mixed up together.
Shit, you don't know what's going to happen.
It's a beautiful thing.
And in the submission-only game, since there's no stride.
shit leg locks are crazy
important super if you're not
if you're not on top of what's going on
with leg locks in this submission only game you're gonna
get got you just cannot go
forward unless you understand the
entire body you just can't be half
the body like arms and neck
you got to be full body for submission
only because they're going to come after your legs
guy like Eddie Cummings and Gary Toney come after
your legs shit if you
if you don't know what's going on 100% you're
going to tap
who that bung is
kill that fucking
savage. It's Sunday night
bitches. We're getting the week
started right. You understand me?
Lee, you want another one?
Look at your eyeballs. That went right through
your fucking skull, didn't it?
It really did.
You think Uncle Joey's fucking around before surgery.
I'm going in there
all sambowed out tomorrow. And you could
watch the entire EBI library
one through six on Byte Pass at any
time, too, the whole thing.
We got the EBI 7
countdown show that's on my YouTube channel
that I just uploaded about a week ago.
I retweeted it last week.
Oh, really?
Really?
Oh, nice.
Yeah, the EBI 7 countdown shows, but it's 25 minutes.
It'll give you a rundown of what's going on next Saturday.
So if you watch that countdown show, you're going to be pumped up for Saturday.
You'll understand.
I break down all the competitors, even if you don't know who they are.
Like, at first, you will after that countdown show.
I'm happy you're doing this shit, Eddie.
It just shows the, your evolution, you know, the evolution.
looking at that magazine, I saw all these people with EBI rules.
I know Chal Sunn is doing a tournament now.
He's doing EBI rules too.
He called me.
Chal Sun said, hey, man, you mind them.
I borrow your rule set.
And I said, fuck, yeah, go for it.
I want everyone to do it.
So just, you know, you start seeing, like, tournament flyers,
and then there'll be EBI rules.
You know what I mean?
It's like prison rules, kind of, you know what I mean?
A basketball prison.
It's fucking impressive, Eddie, because for years, they tried to do something,
and you just took it over with an idea.
So you got to tap yourself on the back again.
You know what's going to be crazy is EBI 8, which is September 11th,
is going to be a 16, instead of an all, you know, Beast tournament with dudes,
it's going to be a 16, 13, 14-year-old girl tournament with Grace, Cora, Alyssa,
Jasmine the Beast, Danielle Garcia, Janelle Takach, Alex Tarich.
14-year-old girls.
13 and 14.
That's fucking amazing.
EBI 8.
It's called the females.
It's going to be all-woman show.
But the tournament is going to be 13, 14-year-olds all bad.
We're going to find out of Grace is the best.
We're going to EBI8.
We're going to find out if she is.
Maybe she gets knocked down in the first round.
Who knows?
You know, because there's this girl named Jasmine the Beast Johnson,
who's going to, I'm featuring her against Danielle Garcia this Saturday as well.
Because she was going to be in the tournament, I wanted to bring her in and, you know, let people get a glimpse of what she can do.
She's a hundred and 15 pounds.
She's 14 years old, 115 pounds.
Grace is 100 pounds.
So that's the weight.
That's the weight limit for the EBI 8 is 115.
But Kora Sexton there, she's 103.
So there's going to be these light, super light technical girls going against these super athlete,
14-year-old girls that are having a hard time making 115 pounds.
You know what I mean?
So it's going to be like Rocky 4.
It's going to be like Drago against Rocky.
Seriously, man.
Very interesting, the growth of J-J.
I mean, there's schools in Burbank.
I don't even know about it.
I rolled with a guy from Checkmate, Burbank.
I didn't know Leo Vieira.
Check Matt.
Check Matt.
Check Matt.
Check Matt.
His best girl, Danielle Garcia, she's actually going to be, she's fighting this Saturday
against Jasmine.
Out of Burbank or Long Beach?
He was out of Long Beach.
You know what?
I don't know.
She's checkmat, but I don't know.
There's a bunch of checkmats.
I don't know which one she trains at.
I should know that, but I know that she's Leo Vera.
Oh, you know what?
She's probably up in Victorville.
There's a Czech map with Marcelo Mafra.
He's out in Victorville.
That's where Danielle Garcia is from.
She's from Victorville.
She's 14-year-old.
She's going against Jasmine the Beast.
Two hundred and 15-pound 14-year-olds with superb jujitsu.
There's going to be some crazy shit.
Coracek is going to also have a special match.
She's going against a Zoe Childs.
This is a rematch.
So on top of the 16 guys, the featherweights,
We're going to have three special matches with girls that are going to be in EBIA.
I just wanted to give people a glimpse, like I said, of them before.
We do that all-female show.
It's going to be nuts, man.
It's just really funny.
I'll get your girl in there, too.
The girl.
What's her name?
Jessica Flowers.
It's just really funny where you've taken this game.
And I know for a long time you struggled, you know, people didn't like the reef a thing.
People didn't like the fucking tent planet.
And now you got the system.
you got them over a barrel.
They're using your fucking rules.
You know what's cool, man,
it was a cool weekend in so many ways and on so many levels,
but one of the coolest things was,
you know, like I said, the IBJJF,
they held a tournament there at the UFC Fan Expo.
And I ran into so, like Leo Vieira,
ran into him, talked to him, Roan Conero,
Luca Tella, a guy from Gracie, Mike,
all these guys that,
I was never really close to.
I wasn't like ever like we were never buddies and texting each other or anything like that.
We just kind of never really said anything.
We passed by each other and just occasionally said, hey, or whatever, shook your hand.
But it was a really good time, man.
I had really good conversations with Leo Vieira.
That's the guy that crushed me after I beat Hoyler.
I tapped out Hoyler in 2003 Abu Dhabi, but the very next match,
Leo Vieira beats me like 100 to nothing.
And we had a really good conversation.
conversation. It was a, it was a very pleasant time at, uh, at that IBJF tournament.
Met a lot of people out of Brazilians that I never knew before. Uh, it was, it had a really good time.
It's, uh, you know, you're, you're one of the contemporaries right now. You're one of the guys right now.
You know, I've had conversations with Alberta when he was telling me, you met you when you guys were bluebells.
Yep. Yep. Yep. Or something like that. So, you know, you know,
I met Brody Stevens when he had a fucking public access show.
I see Brody now.
I got to give him a hug because I knew him back then.
And this is the same thing with the people you're seeing now.
Yeah.
With Alberto Crane, we met at a Santa Cruz tournament.
They had, Claudio Franza had the Santa Cruz tournament.
I forget what it was called, like U.S. nationals or something.
And I met Alberto Crane up there at a blue belt,
and he was the only one with the video camera.
He had a big, one of those video cameras that recorded VHS,
the big ones, and he had one at the tournament,
and he said he would film my matches.
We met him kind of hit it off, and he filmed my matches.
And then he lived in New Mexico, and he said he would make me a copy.
I remember writing him, and shit.
It was like, this is 1995, 96, and I asked,
hey, do you have that tape?
When are you going to send that tape?
And he took so long.
I just wanted to watch me.
I never had any video of me competing.
I didn't videotape anything.
this is a you know no one had video cameras and you gotta be rich
keep talking about it on the bed oh now you got a piss
what are you gonna do jih Tutsi Lee when you thinking about it
I did it for a while and oh you did where I Joey yeah the same place he was at
at VMA I like VMA but I um I don't know I I
listening to Joey and you and everyone who talks about Jit too there's such a love for
it and I just
couldn't, I didn't have it.
But at that ju-duty two place, they had kettlebell class months a week.
So from that, I found a place that Joey actually used to go to as well, but it's a kettlebell gym.
So I'd do that three times a week now.
But if you could press a button right now, if you could press a button that gave you the skills to put people to sleep and break their limbs and totally immobilized people in control.
If you could press a button that gave you that, boom, would you do it?
Or you're saying, nah.
Oh, absolutely.
Of course, right?
Why?
Because it'd be awesome.
Wouldn't it be awesome to, like, actually know?
I totally get the appeal of Jiu-Jitsu.
So you've got to look at it like this.
Some people, some people turn away from Jiu-Jitsu.
Most people.
Most people.
Yeah.
You're like most people.
Absolutely.
You're like most people.
People that like Jiu-Jitsu are in the minority.
You know why?
It's just all about how they look at it.
You know, because you could, some people tapping, getting submitted,
it's in our DNA for it not to feel good.
Nobody ever gets tapped out and it feels good.
It wasn't, I did a tournament that I knew
I was going to get killed at and it was fine.
I don't mind getting tapped out.
I just, I don't know, man.
It's just not something that I was physically good at
and I know most people aren't when they start,
but I don't know.
Did you feel like everyone was thinking you just suck?
No, no, everyone's always very, very,
But you just said earlier that you would press that button because it was awesome.
Yeah, but that button would be awesome.
Taking into account of my arms.
So you got to look at it.
No, but you got to look at it like this.
This is coming from a guy that's been teaching jiu-jitsu for a long time.
I've seen people come and go.
There have been lots of people.
Most people react like you.
It's just like, fuck God.
I'm not good at this.
I can't do this.
And I'm not having fun.
I'm losing all the times.
Like, why is this fun?
I go in here and I get tapped out.
Fuck that.
Why is this?
How is this fun getting tapped out?
It sucks.
It's in our DNA for it to suck.
And when you, but when you, all you got to do is focus on being able to do to someone what they're doing to you.
Oh, man, all you got to do is just know that you can do it.
So you don't think you could do it.
But you can do it.
But you think you can't.
You think you can't.
But I'm here to tell you, I've never met anybody ever that just continue to do it and not get better at it, little by little.
So you can't do you think like it was just too hard for you?
You can't figure it out and it's too complex?
I think it was a fun thing.
I think I fell in love with kiddle bills and I just wasn't enjoying.
Because you thought you couldn't get good at it.
That probably had a good amount of doing it.
Of course.
Most people think they can't, they just can't do it.
Most people, they think, man, it's just not worth it.
You're going to get tapped out all the time.
Yeah.
You got to get anything in life.
When you first walk into something that's outside,
outside your comfort zone.
I called the guy up first.
I drove by there 15 times.
And I was done with kickboxing.
And I had a bunch of options.
I could call you.
I could call a bunch of people.
I said, you know what?
I don't know this guy.
Let me give him the 50 bucks.
Go down there.
Because if I don't like it,
I don't know.
I haven't wanted anybody to know I even tried it.
And on the end, we spoke,
and he taught me the grips.
And he taught me the grips.
and he taught me, but when I did the hip escapes,
the room just started spinning.
And we talked a little more,
and he taught me a basic scissors sweep.
I thought it was interesting.
I got in the car and I'm like,
that was interesting, but I'm never going to go back.
And then I did a Ben Franklin close.
You know what that is?
When you put a piece of paper,
and you put lines down the piece of paper,
and you write the advantages and the disadvantages,
to jihitsu for me.
You know, and obviously I wrote out of shape.
But obviously I wrote commitment
and I wanted to do something different.
So I went to a night class.
And that was fucking brutal, Eddie.
Brutal.
Because I'm 50.
I don't have energy in the fucking nighttime.
All my energy's done in the daytime.
It's tough for me to learn the moves.
But he taught me a pass, a collar pass,
where you double up the legs and you throw them over.
and I could do that.
But again, I walked out and I'm like, I'm not coming back in here again.
But you know me, Doug.
I said, I'm going back down on Monday night.
And on Mondays from 8 to 8, 30, people don't like it
because he makes you do jumping jacks and burpees.
I would do whatever I could do, push-ups,
10 jumping jacks and stop.
I would run some laps, I'd walk some.
But one night I went in there and another one.
And that was the biggest mistake in my life.
That was like the time of St.
Patty's Day, 1992, I got on stage on Coke. I thought it was cute. That was a big mistake.
And I know not to get high or nothing when I go to Jitza because I would panic when somebody got
on top of me. The weight would just make me panic. I got sleep happy. I can't breathe on the bottom.
But I started thinking, what if somebody gets on top of me on the street, dog? I'm going to die.
I'm going to die. I can't die because I don't want to do this. And that's what made me go back,
Between you and I, I don't have the aptitude for it.
When I played football, I had aptitude three days.
You know, you learn your fucking formations,
and you learn to block this guy and tackle this guy as he comes around.
With basketball, I had the thing.
With baseball, I didn't.
And I'm Cuban.
I didn't have the aptitude to play baseball.
With Jiu-Jitsu, I was completely out of the game.
It was like me going to a technical school to learn mechanics.
I'm not an auto mechanic.
You know, it's like when you, like with your experience,
with comedy, you know that if a guy
starts doing comedy and he goes
up to a couple open mics, he's like,
fuck this, I got, you know,
I'm not going to fucking do this. It's just too hard.
I'm gone. But you know,
like, you know, like, man,
you know, whether you tell him or not, you're like,
you can do this. You just got to
fucking work. You can do
this. Most people think they can,
but they can't. I knew
I could. Like, my day,
my first day at Jiu-Jitsu, I got
wrecked. I had 37 times.
got wrecked. But instead of doing what most people do, most people are like, fuck this. How is that
fun? That's not fun. Most people are like, they're gone. But the way I looked at it is like survival
on the streets. I knew that, fuck, who cares if this guy, these guys beat my ass? One of these days,
I'm going to be able to do that to a dude who walked in the first day. That was the goal.
I just want to be able to do what that dude did to me. I go, you've been training four years.
And you look like a fucking nerd.
You know what I mean?
I go, you can do this?
He goes, hey, train hard for four years.
I'm like, shit, I'm going to be able to do this too.
So I didn't care about getting tapped.
Like, the more I got tapped, the more I'm like, fuck, yes, I'm going to be able to do this.
And I got obsessed.
And all I wanted to do was my goal, my first goal is to be able to put a clinic on a dude who's been training one day.
Then after like six months of hard training, I was able to do that.
It took maybe six months, maybe even a year.
before I can just do whatever I want it to that dude, you know, but time flies.
So a year goes by like that, but you, you actually can do it.
There is nobody on the planet unless you have some kind of serious, like, um, condition.
We have that, we have that friend who has, who's in a wheelchair.
He's in a fucking, uh, he's got cerebral pausing.
You got to, you still with your girl?
Mm-hmm.
What happens when you go out and someone starts shit, man?
You want to be able to fucking handle the goddamn, your business, man.
You want to be able to...
And Jiu-Jitsu will 100% give you that confidence.
Like, if anything goes down, you're like,
I got this motherfucker.
I wreck them every day.
You can do that.
You know, I'm not...
Whether you go to Jiu-Jitsu again or not,
it's not none of my concern at all.
I'm just telling you, I'm just giving you...
Like, I'm trying to...
And I'm never going to bring this up again.
I'm telling you the truth.
You're trying to get really good at this man.
You could.
You could.
could say you could have it'll it'll it'll you know what jihitsu will do when you stay when if you stay
you'll start to realize that shit i'm constantly taking these moves that i suck at and getting
pretty good at them then getting really good and then mastering them and it becomes i'm unconscious
and then i'm doing it to this move and then all these moves are in different parts of development
you're like shit if i just keep practicing all this they look what i could do it's like then you
realize you could do that to anything you're like shit i anything i want to do i can
can actually do when people say that. Oh, you can do anything. You just got to believe in yourself.
That's actually true. It doesn't mean that, hey, I want to be an NBA star, you know. No, it means that
if you want to get good at basketball, you could actually get way better at basketball than you are right now.
You can get good at it, not to play in the NBA, but you could do anything you want to do.
And, man, why not have the power to and the skills to put people to sleep and break their bones if you had to?
If you got kids, he did a kid.
Mercy snapped him into shape.
Mercy made him do it.
Maybe it'll take a kid for you too.
But ultimately, ultimately, you want to do it, man.
One thing for sure.
You want to.
Got me going on it.
One thing, the main objective I thought Jiu-Jitsu had over anything I had done, even comedy,
that really got my dick hard about it.
Yeah, they.
I'm on the floor.
My hip escape.
I get the guy into my guard.
Something happens.
We go a scramble, and my arm got caught, and I go, ah.
And one of the purple belts, brown belt, looked over at me.
Weird.
And after the class, you know how many times this guy's talked to me?
I think maybe two times.
He came over.
He goes, what happened to you before?
I go, my fucking shoulder.
And he goes, let's, let me see.
this and I was something he goes let's go on the back and we took a stick and we worked with
this stick for 20 minutes and he told me to take the stick home and do this by myself for 20 minutes
he didn't look for a five dollar bill he didn't want me to give him free tickets to the
conony store he didn't want nothing from me and one thing I wanted from conody one thing I wanted from
my criminal friend one thing I was always looking for was one a family but be I was always looking for
sort of like of his brotherhood.
And I really found it with Jiu-Jitsu.
More self-in comedy, believe it or not.
More soul and comedy.
When I walk into where I go,
I'm good to go.
That's my fucking out.
The phone don't ring.
I don't want to talk on the phone.
I don't get text.
I don't get nothing.
It's my ow.
I take it really fucking serious when I go in there.
When I go in there, I'm the fat white belt in the corner.
I'm not Joey D. is the comedian.
I really like that.
I like that.
I like that hour of nobody has to take a fucking picture.
Nobody has to talk to me about auditions.
In fact, I'm asking people questions.
Hey, dog, get me in your guard, do that movie.
You know what I'm saying?
And people actually go, yeah, nobody says, fuck you.
You know, some kid came up to me that day.
He goes, dog, my fucking cousin called me.
He says, you're going to Nashville.
He has a school.
They want to train you.
When I was 418 pounds, how many people emailed me and said,
we want to train you this weekend?
That many.
A week before I go to a town now, I got an email from somebody who says,
bring your gear like to train you at my school, and I'll say, is it far?
And if they say, yeah, I won't do it.
But if it's close, I'll do it.
If it's close to the school, I'll definitely do it.
It's very interesting.
That's...
One day, Lee, one day.
That's what turned me on the most about it, that I'm just a fat,
in the corner who does eight hip escapes and he has to get up and breathe and he starts from scratch
and it doesn't bother me at all because it brings me back to reality it brings me back to the reality
I like to be on you know what I'm saying it gets old to go out and people want to take pictures
it gets old for people to laugh at your stupid fucking jokes you know what I'm saying there I'm just a guy
in the corner that at first I couldn't even make the whole warm up now I do the whole warm up
you know.
Today I got submitted one time
and maybe I got the guy in a collar choke.
But I was happy that those two
those two
deep halves worth.
Like I went right home and wrote it down.
Like they really fucking work.
And they would textbook both times.
Like I practiced it so many times
at drill class now.
I hook his leg, pick him up, gone.
Boom. I'm on top.
It's all about numbers, man.
on. I'm on top of him now.
It's like now I love Halfguard.
I love Halfguard.
I pop up. I grab his back.
I turn myself down.
Then I keep growing and keep expanding.
It doesn't stop. You're going to keep growing up.
A year ago? Do you think I would put somebody
purposely on top of me, Lee?
Are you fucking kidding me?
I actually pull somebody on top of me and throw his knees up
and get under him and fucking pull him up again.
Then I hold him there and I breathe a little bit.
Then I walk his leg out.
Then I fucking spin him backwards.
a fucking, you know, and I love it. I love it.
That should be some animation right now.
What you're saying?
And today, right now I'm so as fuck because I can't eat no fucking aspirin because tomorrow
I'll bleed the debt.
So that's why I'm really so, so it's a day.
So I enjoy going.
I wish you a lot of luck with the EBI this weekend.
Thank you very much.
I'm happy they could go to Fight Pass.
You can either pay for the daily, which is $9.95.
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And everything's on there.
You could see fucking Popeye fighting Pluto in 1922.
They got everything on there.
So it's not a bad fucking deal to be on, especially if you're a UFC pan.
Lee, how are you feeling, dog?
It goes bonk.
It's got to you.
Oh, everything got to me.
But, yeah, UFC Fight Pass is great.
I signed up for it for the past week.
And they have like the where are they now, fights.
They have like all the other.
They have, obviously, they have EBI, but they have a ton of other organizations.
and I think if it's a one-time fee of $999,
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So might as well just do five-pass.
Yeah, yeah.
Your choice, whatever you want to do.
Some people don't like to get that.
Sign up for subscriptions.
They just feel like weird about it.
I'm at Cora Sack.
She's really cool, too.
She's going to be good progress.
I watched her like crazy submission video.
So she's, she's, who?
Kora.
Kora, yeah, yeah.
I'm a big friend of Kora's too.
Yeah.
It's weird.
She's got a new weapon that no one knows about.
She's really good at some shit.
Everybody is that prepares for Cora.
They prepare her rubber guard.
If you get caught, if you get caught in her guard,
she has one of the best full guards on the planet,
even for a little girl.
It's super high advance, what she's doing.
So people are always trying to stay away from her guard.
But now she's got a new weapon.
Ooh, she's got a new one.
I mean, she's really good with it and has nothing to do with guards.
Walt Jiu-Jitsu, you were raised by a stepdad.
In the relationship with him, wasn't that great from what you told me over the years.
Did he pass, or is he still alive?
A stepdad?
Yeah.
I have no idea.
No, I think he's still alive.
Yeah, I would have heard of you would have died because he's my sister and my brother's real father,
so I would have known if he would have died.
He's still alive.
It's crazy.
Today I found out that my stepdad died.
He was like my own official stepdad.
that it fucking killed me for a minute because let me tell you something I hadn't talked to him in a few
days so this morning I got up at five and I wrote for two hours and then about six seven
thirty I started calling my friends on the East Coast and I called him at eight o'clock
ain't an answer this motherfucker always answers he always answers even the taif he's sleeping
And so I hung up and I said, I'll wait 10 minutes and he'll call back.
He's one of those people.
So he always calls you back.
He didn't call back.
So when my wife left to go to church with the baby, I had to go to the weed store.
And I had to go to CVS to pick up my purpose sets and all that shit.
And when I got back in the car, I left the phone and at the weed store.
I was in there talking to the girl.
And I saw the, and you know who else I called after him?
I called my best friend that's a funeral director
because he's a freeholder
This is how you know how you and I talk sometimes
And you're like Joey I was just telling somebody about you and you called
Yeah synchronicity so it was the same thing I called and if you look at my phone
I called Carmine first
And I called the gear
Rennary and I talked to him he was sleeping it was 11 o'clock
I go what the fuck you're doing the sleep he goes I got up early
Ransomeroons and I'm taking a nap now till some baseball game or some shit
And I said, all right, man, just checking in where you love you.
And I hung up the phone.
And when I got out of the weed store, he called and Pete, I was in a call.
And I knew it.
I knew it already.
Like, I didn't need a genius.
I called Anthony first, and he told me you here.
And Carmine died that I called Pete, and he told me.
Carmine died.
If they talked to him, they called him, and he said he was in the bathroom, give him five minutes.
They didn't answer the door.
So he had a heart attack on me.
the way in. Now I gotta tell you
at first one, how was he? He was
70, he was done.
You know, he was starting to lose his mind.
He was going to bed at 6 o'clock and calling
me at 1 in the fucking morning.
You know, he would get up at 12
and start dying.
And he would wake me up at 3. Like, it was
nobody. Cockarini,
what are you doing? What are you watching?
What's on TV? I didn't want
to hurt his feelings and tell him I was sleeping.
So I would talk to him for a little
while. And I'd hang up the phone.
called me back 10 minutes and asked me my zip code. Then he would hang up and he called me again.
So he was starting to lose it. But he would always tell me, you know, he'd always told me on the phone.
I was his adopted son. And today when I got Frankie on the phone, Frankie goes, when he passed, I went over there, Coco, and I don't want to make you feel bad.
I wanted his wallet. And he had to picture me from the longest yard. This dude was my dog, dog.
You know, it's, it's hard to, and I've never told these stories because I was always.
always ashamed of this, but it's hard to, you know, Joe Rogan put me on the map.
I did a few movies, but Joe put me on the map.
Carmine and Life put me on the map.
Because when I moved to Jersey, I was so insecure, I wouldn't go out.
So when I stuck up for his son, he liked that, and I started going to his house.
Because there was weapons in my house and drugs and cash, I wasn't allowed to invite kids
all my house when I was a kid.
Like, you'd come to my house, you had to wait on the porch.
Unless you were Spanish and you know about Santerian stuff,
then I would like, yeah.
But if not, I had to explain it.
And I'm not the mood to fucking explain it.
You know what I'm saying?
We're going on in a fucking date.
I got to break to you out as a dead chicken in my liver room.
I'm not in the fucking mood.
But when I went to his house the first time,
like I went, ate dinner with them,
and then the second time I went back,
and I'm like, you're hungry, yeah.
Going to a fridge and make yourself a sandwich.
Like, I had all access to that fucking house.
you know that's not where it goes i'm a spanish dude you know what i'm a spanish dude so he had
already thrown a beat on the guy for his son and i was there and then he ended up throwing a beat on
another guy because of me and his son so now the word got out that i was a carmine so nobody would
bother me dog and even all those years when i was causing a lot of problems carmine was furious at me
but they would call him first before they wanted to talk to me.
So this is one story.
There was his drug deal named Mundi,
and his partner had a gas station.
His name was George Yamiko,
and his brother had a gas station, Cuban dudes,
and they would bring fruit up.
But before they put the fruit in, they would put coke on the truck.
And they had this very successful cocaine operation.
So one day, George Amico, I could never approach him directly.
I robbed his gas station one time when I was a sophomore without a gun.
He didn't know it was me and my buddy.
So we never really fucked with George Amico, but he was mutual friends with a friend of mine.
And one day my friend said to me, Georgie said that if you want to fuck with him,
you got to talk to this guy named Mundi, this Cuban dude named Mundi.
So I started dealing with Mundi.
And one day ended up beating him for like an ounce.
Well, Moondi went nuts.
So George Amico went and talked to my friend's dad, and my friend's dad said,
listen I can't help you talk to fucking carmoy so I got a call from Carmine one day and he goes
hey man listen I don't know what you're in I'm accusing you or anything but some drug dealers came
talking to me to tell you own some type of money what do you want me to do here like what do you mean
what do you want to do you want to pay them and I go not really and he goes what do you want me to
do I go up there I just talked to you know just tell him that and he was and he wants to
up there and talked on the people never came looking for me but he always took care of me all
those years from way before my mother died till you know we did the documentary so it's just uh i could sit
here and cry and be a fucking phony fuck i already crying i got out of the way i can't go to the
funeral, but I love the guy. It's, it's so crazy the gift I got growing up that my parents are taken
away, but God taught me the gift of friendship. Like, it's a weird gift to describe to people.
It's a very, very weird gift to describe to people when you have no blood and what people have
done for you. Do you know what I'm saying? Usually you need to be blood with people like that.
So it was a great gift that God gave me. I'm good with it and that's it. I just wanted to dedicate
I hate this show to Carmine.
He made me laugh growing up a lot.
When he shot the guy seven times in the back, that was the best.
Because he used to always tell me if he wanted to shoot somebody and write him all for dinner.
Growing up, all the time, we were kids.
If you ever want to kill somebody, you want to get away with it, invite him off a dinner and shoot him.
And when I was 18, that's exactly what he did.
He shot a guy in the back seven times in self-defense.
And he got away with it.
And he lost his job as a cop, but he kept his pension.
You can't beat that fucking story.
And then he lit a strip club on fire.
So as we were kids, we used to call him the torch.
Because he lit the strip club on fire.
We'd always ask me if he had a match.
And he told us to go fuck ourselves.
Come on, you got a match.
Go fuck yourself.
You speak fuck.
Insulting me like that.
A lot of good times that he brought him.
He treated me like he had four boys.
And whatever his boys got to.
I got. One time he called me up.
He just come over. I went over there. There was a brand new
300 Indian motorcycle waiting for me.
Whatever his boys got, I got.
And that was way before my mother died.
In fact, in the 8th grade, he called me to
tell me to come over, to tell me to go run to my house and tell me that my mother's
house is getting busted by the fucking Union City and
Newark Police Department.
He goes, go over there. And he didn't say it like that.
And he goes, go over and tell your mother, I said,
for the clean the house, she's going to have a visit.
I knew what he was saying to me.
I ran over there and told my mother when the cops got there was nothing.
Very interesting, the life we live in Eddie Brabissimo.
I wish you luck next Saturday.
What times it start?
7 p.m.
Pacific Standard Time, just like the UFC next Saturday night.
Lisa, what's going on in your world, Cocksucker?
You've been very quiet tonight.
I'm very intrigued by the conversation.
Intrity?
Yeah, indeed.
I'm good.
I was very lucky to meet Carmine and it's very sad.
Was he still working?
No, they gave him a medical release because he got sugar diabetes and his foot turned purple.
So they had to send him home and that's what was really.
That's what he did he tell us when we were there.
We go, Carmen, you still work and he goes, when you stop using it, you lose it.
And it took him six months to die after his job.
So if you're old, don't think of it.
retiring. Keep your job, especially
if you're single, your wife died or whatever
and at least keep your mind occupied.
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Thank you.
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Lee Syak, get your shit together.
This happens to you because you're not in training on off nights.
I'm fine.
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