The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #457 - Danny Brown

Episode Date: February 21, 2017

Danny Brown, a highly acclaimed rapper who went from Detroit to touring the world, and has also released multiple albums and mixtapes, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. This podcast is brought to you by:  Naturebox.com - Go to Naturebox.com/joey for 50% off of your first box.    ZipRecruiter - post your job to 200+ job sites with a single click for free at www.ziprecruiter.com/church     Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.   Recorded live on 02/20/2017.  

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Four walls just staring at a nigga. I'm paranoid sleeping. Monday, February 20th. My mother's always dressing I ain't living right. Churchill, what's happened now. Proud to present my main man, Danny Brown, without a frown. That's right. With up, though.

Lee Syed. Kick that meal, Lee. That's right. When I'm deep in the covers. When I awake, I don't see the motherfucker. He owns a black hat like I own. A black suit and I came with my own. Somebody say take a chill, be, but fuck that shit.

There's a nigga trying to kill. Oh, shit. That's how of stars make you feel. Oh, shit. It's on, cock suckers. What's going on, you bad motherfuckers? Uncle Joey coming at you on a beautiful Monday night. Post my 54 birthday.

A birthday, nice time at the store. Nice weekend with the family. Went to the school dance. How was that? Fucking tremendous. High as fuck, I walked in there. Not reeking. I ate edibles.

I walked in there. I had my hands in my pocket. I didn't bother nobody. To church, you know, the fucking hoop. Kids running around. And all of a sudden, the dad came home. He's like, hey, man, I listen to the podcast. What's going on?

He goes, I wish I had a flash right now. That's right. And that's thing, you know, I started talking to this dude that was an FBI agent. He's married to a Cuban chick. So my kid and Hup kid plays together. So I started, my wife told me, she goes, if he comes over, you know, he's an FBI guy. He can't fucking. So you got to be cool.

But I talked to him for a long time. He was cool. Both went to the university in Colorado. And everything was fine. My daughter was fine until the fucking helium balloon went to the ceiling. And that little bitch lost. You understand? My poor little daughter just lost her cheeks got red.

She was yelling. But you know what? 7.30, she's done anyway. She's done at 7.30. Happy new new time. Yeah. Before I grabbed her arm. She came in when she goes, Daddy.

And I touched her heart. And you could feel it about to go out of the fucking shirt. And her eyes were like wiggling, her cheeks were red. She was fucking going. Do you think they just don't, like, they get a little overwhelmed? They don't know. They don't know. They don't know until they stop.

And they catch their breath. And then she had the balloon, the balloon, the balloon. Once her fucking balloon went up to the ceiling. And then everything was good for about 20 minutes, but every five minutes, she'd look at that fucking balloon. And she tried to figure out of the way how to get the balloon. Oh, shit. She just took her home. But it was great.

I was in town, and I had the opportunity to do that with her. Yeah. That's the most important thing. And I'm going to tell you something, man, it was the best part of my week. Yeah. All week I waited for Friday night for that fucking dance. It says as dumb as it fucking sounds. No, that's not dumb at all.

Like you said, man, you don't do that type of shit. She's going to be in garage, you know what I'm saying? It's a weird shit. Watch the wild, you know what I'm saying? You got to spend time. You got to spend time with girls, though. I think that's the most important thing about this one thing. You know, we have boys, but girls are like, you know, they just look up to their dad way more than any other man.

You know, you set the trait for whatever a man they want to be with everything in their life. You know what I'm saying? The blueprint. It's the blueprint. It's the blueprint. It's the blueprint. You know what I'm saying. She follows me, guys.

She's at a different age now where, you know, in three or four months, I won't be smoking dope at the house no more. I just know it because she watches my hands. She knows I go outside. Yeah, she knows it. Kids, you can't have too much for them. No, they're not. They're way smarter than what we think they are. So, and I don't want her to smell it.

Mm-hmm. I don't want her to see me. See, how the thing about me. From the time I remember, man, my mom smoked away from the time. Me too. Me too. I remember just coming home from school, just loving that smell to be honest. Like, damn, everybody makes me hungry.

You know, it's so weird how moms have changed, how we judge our mom. Maybe my mom did smoke weed, but she covered a lot of the bases that people don't get covered today. Oh, yeah, facts. With their children. All of people don't cover those bases. My mom smoked weed, and she covered certain bases that there's times on Pistula for covering those bases at that age. Because it gives you that peek behind the curtain and the element of surprise. But at the same time, she covered a lot of good bases.

bases that and she smoked wheat you know she smoked weed I had a godfather who really enjoyed weed you ever see a motherfucker who just smoked weed yeah I'm sure my that's my party for him that's like pretty much my whole family my whole family just we pretty much a drug because you did you know what I'm drinking always did my aunt was a crazy drinker you know what I'm saying but she had slow she got to slow down now because she's starting to have like you know trouble and shit but but the most part of my uncle I was like did heroin and shit like he was Like, hell, when I've since she's like 16.

You know, so, yeah, bad thing. Like, I don't know, but smoking weed. So that was always, like, the less of the anything. So, like, what age do you remember seeing people smoke weed? Five. Yeah, I can't, yeah. Like, I can't remember that. My godfather would pick me up.

A time of me, not even smelling it. Like, it's always just my house just smelled like weed all the time. Like, shit. No, I remember being like five and going on my godfather to a movie theater. And before the movie, we'd pull over on the street and do the whole thing. You get the Daily News with the brown envelope. And I'd be sitting there going, why is this motherfucker rolling his own cigarettes? He could just go to the fucking store and buy a pack, you know?

And then he would smoke it. And from being at my mom's bar, I knew it wasn't the cigarettes, regular people smoke. You know, you figure it out. You know that, man. That's not that. And then his eyes would get red, but he would get really fucking giggly and shit. And at the time, he was a Spanish dude that was probably in his early 30s, his English was very broken. But he always had like a white girlfriend.

And after the movie theater, we'd go back to her house and they'd smoke again. Like she'd be giggling, he, and he'd walk. You know, it was the early 60s, early 70s. Everybody got high. So I'd go over there and they'd smoke again in front of me and they'd get giggly. And I'd just make like a mental note, don't smoke that shit. because it'll make you fucking giggly, you know. And then I would go home and see my mom and my babysitter smoke.

Oh, shit. What? That's the same situation. I'm kind of like the same situation. That's how I knew, but I didn't say nothing to nobody. Like, I didn't say nothing to nobody. And then when you get to kindergarten, they take you to the police station in New York and they fucking fingerprint you.

We didn't do that type of shit. It's crazy. They give you a little bad. Yeah, I got extra, extra, extra. Like they got more, I don't know, more feelings to be able, because I remember that type of stuff. They gave you like a little badge to make you to, to, to, uh, they do it to, uh. So you like the cops, right? Yeah, so you like the cops.

And they also shoot a gun and you get to take the target. But it's funny. I asked the fucking cop, like, officer, you know, sometimes I'm walking down the street and I smell funny stuff. And he was like, that's marijuana. So I always knew from the cop what my mother and my godfather was smoking. but I never said nothing. It's not like I went out in the street and said nothing. So one day my mom sat me down and she goes,

this is marijuana. It gets you fucked up. See, I never even had that conversation. Yeah, we have that conversation. My conversation came. I remember when I started smoking weed, I feel like I started smoking weed on the regular, probably, or regularly, probably around like 14, 15.

So, and I remember a beat time in my mom's pride didn't have weed or something. And I come in house smelling like weed, and she'd be like, You better share that shit. You know what I'm saying? So that's our week conversation started. Yeah, I just started to smoke with my mom in high school.

Like, yeah, about it. I think that's about, yeah. You're still cool, your mom? Yeah, my mom's living with me, actually. I just bought her house, actually, though. So she's about to get ready to move. She don't know it yet, no. She's about to get a body to him.

Where is she now? I mean, we still live in Michigan. But is she the bad neighborhood now? No, no. She should live in me. She lived in my house. I live in, like, you know, like, you know. For what neighbor did you come from originally?

No, for me, I came from Linwood, born and raised, like, West Side of Detroit, then we moved to the East Side of Detroit. How was that? The West Side of Detroit, to me, I liked it more because it was more about like, I think it's more like, it was more like, I guess, better. It's more like suburban I felt like, you know? Like, then when I moved to the East Side, it was like gangs and shit like that. You know, like the West Side was all about like you was the cool kid if you dress nice. Then you go to East Side, you was the cool kid if you knew I don't. fight you know what I'm saying that's all it was about so I don't know I mean I

really like to fight too much so I could take the east side you know what I'm saying so I went back to the west side if this is a stupid question I'm sorry but the only thing I know about rap in Detroit is 8 mile is 8 mile is what separates Detroit from the suburbs okay got so where's east or where's east and west like what's it east I mean that's just in Detroit in general like the east side and the west like it's an east east eight mile and it's a west eight mile oh got you get me so just east side and west side you know what I'm saying? So, but the east side Detroit is a little more tougher.

They're a little more like just grimeier, just more blue, like the east side type of guys that had like $10,000 in their pocket, but looked like a bum. You feel me? And you meet a guy from the west side. He looked like a million dollars and ain't got a penny. You feel me? And that's just always with the logic of it. So I come from both sides and I gained and learned a lot from both sides a little bit,

to be honest. So it kind of molded me to be who I am. I'm kind of glad that I was able to experience both sides of Detroit because I couldn't just imagine just living on the west side of. side on my luck I wouldn't have been tough a little because when I moved to east side and then been through all the shit I was going to muffins beating me up and shit jumping on anywhere you know what I said so by the time I moved back to a motherfucker in west side I feel like them nigs was soft like everybody was like you know just felt a little soft

and I wasn't really just trying to be tough and I wanted to dress and just be fresh like them too you know just all about going shopping you know we just always wanted to had a new sneakers just go get the jortons you know like shit like that so we didn't want to be I didn't I didn't want to be on that. You know, niggas on the east side, they was already breaking in the houses. And, you know, like, I'm talking about just like middle school, though, like, 14, 50, you know what I'm saying? Like, because I went to elementary school on the west side. Then my mom's moved to the east side and middle school. And we moved over there. Like I said, it was like gangs and shit. And I don't know. It was kind of weird. Because I guess that was a phase in the 90s. If you think about it once that whole blood and crypt shit probably like went.

Because a lot of, I bet you that shit probably happened like in a lot of different cities where it's like, because that shit is like real out here. That's where origin at. But then they were spaking it out there, but people really lost their lives and shit over that shit. Because I remember it was like fake bloods and crips. They're like two people got killed. It wasn't no more game, man. Crazy.

They stopped gaming. Now, let me. You can't find a bloods crib in Detroit, right? Let me simplify this because I know you did some time. I knew nothing about that world until I did time. Yeah. And then when I started doing time, I became very tight with a Crip. Mm-hmm.

Because at that time, the mid-80s, remember when that dude, what's a documentary of the dude who brought Coke into Compton? Rick Ross. Rick Ross, whatever. So for some reason in those days, the people were bringing Coke to Colorado to the urban communities, the black communities, in Nevada and downtown Denver with the crypts. There's still going down to the day. There's rumors that there was a quarterback that played for the buffaloes. And he was in college and he was like a crib. So on the weekends, he would drive to LA, pick up Coke.

Damn. To bring to Boulder. But this kid that I did time with, this Toray kid, we became tight. I mean, we were in each other's cells every night talking shit, having stories, listening to two short, you know, the whole fucking thing. That's right. And it was very interesting. very interesting. It was very interesting to me. Would I join it? I was, I'm not there. I'm not there.

But the way he put it down. See, that shit was like, they born into that shit. They're born into that. So it's like your family, like you don't know nothing else type. You know, this is what it is. So I can say out there it was fate, but people really went to jail or did dumb shit. They probably regret doing, you know what I'm saying? People lost their lives. I remember that shit and it was kind of wild over there for a minute. You ever watch those gangline shows? I love that shit. I love America's Most Evil. All that shit.

That's my favorite show. When you see those kids on MSNBC, Saturday late night, you come back and doing a show, you're scrolling through your TV. Watch some jail shows and shit. Those jail shows. Some of them be a little fate to me. You don't feel like it's a little weird.

Do they really? Yeah. Some of them seem weird because they're too calm. When I was in jail, I wouldn't, and the camera came in there, I don't know how I would. I mean, I know you'd be so bored in there, I probably would act in a goddamn fool to be. Well, I mean, they kind of do.

I mean, and just coming from like TV. I just had to have a revelation. I probably would act a goddamn fool, beautiful. Because you'd be so goddamn bored. You'd just waiting on anything. I mean, it was a point of time, like, I was on one floor, and you could, like, look out the window to our floor, and you could see the girl prison floor, too. So we had just looked in the floor, just show her tithies and shit.

You'd be jerking off in the window and shit. My father got caught, sent to other floors and shit. But you always wanted to go to that floor. where you could look and see the bitches from your window. It was like in our county, Wayne County Jail, because it's like the female in the male prison, like right now at each other. But you can get on this one floor, you can see this is one window. You can get so here, like, what do you think?

How much time did you do? I did eight months in the county. Let me ask you. But I was the dumbest ever because I got. How old were you when you got arrested? Like, maybe 19. For my first case, I caught a distribution and manufacturing. The dumb and shit ever.

And that's crack. No, we. I sold crack forever. That was the worst part of it. It never got in trouble. We used to get, I'd sell and crack like, it started for me. Like, just, you know, just normal shit. Like I say, hanging out, trying to be cool, just doing too much,

and just caring more about being fresh and actually caring about clothes. I mean, I mean, then actually caring about school and stuff, you know? Hey. You want to put it to. So then I just, I didn't just hanging out with the wrong crowd, I guess. I don't know. say it's the wrong crowd because you know you're just impressionable as a kid were you like what was it like when you went to prison like even when you just found out joe

joey said he was oh me that's what i said i said i said i got to get to this story to get to that point you give it i'm saying so with me it was like one day my homeboy was just like fuck it you know he was he was he had came into you know some money so he was trying to you know flip his money a little bit you know said like fuck the school shit i'm about to get some work and we're about to put it down you want to fuck with me you want to do something you know So we got like this apartment building, you know what I'm saying? And that was terrified. Like I ain't, you know, I think I was like maybe, yeah, I was like 17, 18 maybe.

Because you're telling me pretty much you're about to, I'm about to run my own crack house pretty much. Because you're not about to be around. You're just putting the money up to do it. You feel what I'm? So I'm the one who got to sit there all the time, you know? So we get the apartment, you know, end up finding a place where the landlord was like a crackhead. So that's how we got the building in the first place. You know what I'm saying?

So we got the apartment. And it was slow for maybe like a month, maybe two months, you know? And we maybe had like, you maybe kind of like an eighth. Like, you know, like a, you know, it's crack days, though, you know. So we got it cooked it. You know, it's the normal way we did it. They're supposed to do. Slow not doing nothing, but we found this one crackhead named Chicken Wing.

You know, and we called him chicken wing because he just had a, you know, his hand. It was all fucked up. It was all fucked up. You know what I'm saying? So here, we would tell, you know, other crack kids about it. And we just did a special three for ten. Dime rocks, you know, just lost out on like a batch because we had it for so long anyway. It's like, fuck it did three for tens just to get our name off.

there. And once we did that, it just... It just took off. Empire, like some shit I could never even explain. You can't explain. To the point where I had to, like, grab other kids from school. Like, I had to go to school because I was in there by myself. It was just me in there with a gun. And I remember one night, you know, I'm just... After so long, I got comfortable a little bit, I guess. I remember one night waking up late and I just, you know, woke up and, you know, knock on the door,

it was not going to just serving the lady. And she, and I had the gun just right there, like, on the table. And she was like, you better, you know, you better watch herself. a little bit. You know, I was sleep on the floor. You know, she, and I thought about that. They're like, damn, she could have just picked that, put that pistol. You know what I'm saying? Took the whole shit.

You know what I'm saying? So, every since then I was a little more tighter. So then I ended up to start going back to school and shit and recruited a couple more homies. And then we started off like that. And we ran that spot for about a good, maybe two years. Like, two years selling crack. Like just, like, they became millionaires.

They became millionaires. Like, me, I know. never had the mindset of a drug dealer, I don't think. I never thought about that shit. So I was just getting my money and just buying clothes and just spending it on just random shit. I didn't even realize how much money I was even making. To the point

when I recruited other motherfuckers and I looked in two weeks, they was buying cars and putting rims on them, getting apartments, and I wouldn't even thinking, and I wouldn't even thinking on that level, you know? I was just spending my money just, you know, partying. I see, you got an ounce of Coke,

28 grams. You paid $800 for it. It was $750. Yeah, yeah, sir. It was so $750. Let's just say $800. I usually chop up $1,200. So I chop up $1,200 in stones.

We're talking about an ounce of crack. All right, let's say we have an ounce of coke. How do I turn it into crack? You got to go get it cooked. How do we cook it? So you got to find a special cook, which was like, me, I fuck with my uncle, but my homie, he's the fuck with his one dude.

And he's the, so you want the special guy who could bring your shit back a little extra. You know, you know how to cook it back, we could bring some extras. But sometimes trying to bring it back extra, end up fucking up the whole batch. Right. Because I remember so many times having the fucked up batch and that motherfucker's slow. You can't get that shit.

I mean, one time we had some motherfucking, he left, he had the coke in his girl purse, and it was around her perfume, and the perfume or something, exorbing the coke, and then when he cooked it up, it was fucked up. When we were trying to say, he was calling that shit Michael Jordan Cologne.

That's when the Michael Jordan Cologne just came out. So we said we were trying to sell a Michael Jordan We got an ounce of powder, which is 28 grams. What am I looking for to get back from that? When I'm in the crack world. And the crack was, like I said, with me, breaking it down, telling you all you got is an ounce. You can't do nothing but try to sell that in stones.

You're going to sell that in stone. I would take it. I had a buddy. I had a buddy who I give him $8,500. And he'd give me back 11 ounces of coke. That were beautiful. Fucking beautiful. we take one ounce out of the gold

and we throw a fucking four in there and he'd do this fucking thing and he put it in the oven with a little bit of fall around it and he took it out and there was still an inch he called it re-rocketed it and he would take an inch

it was an inch thick and then we would break it and he'd take the walls off and that's what we would snort like fucking around the wall so they wouldn't see the walls on it. And if you picked up the rocks, you could still see the shine. Yeah, thanks.

So that was his chemical breakdown for it. It was still great Coke. It was great Coke. Nobody knew I would take it to Colorado. But I had friends who were in the crack business, and they told me they would get a paint can and put four ounces of Coke in there and put like turpentine. This is $0.000.

This is the shit they were serving up in $85. Okay, okay. And you get four ounces. or two ounces of that crack, and you'd break it up into, you know, $10 stones. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And he'd make, you know, $3,000 a day off that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, that's all it was with me. Like I said, me, I get at my max, because it started off with just me getting an $8 bar. You know what I'm saying? I get an eight bar, which I think, what? You'd give me... Three and a half.

Yeah, so I opposed to get my hundred back. You know what I'm saying? So I've chopped up 15. So $150, make a $50 off it. Usually when you try to double, but we want the biggest on. because he was more apartments in that building. I told you the landlord was a crackhead.

Right. So now... So you're like your own cool Jack City. Yeah, it's like fucking New Jack... Because you know it. Now it's like three apartments in there. You know what I'm saying? You just fucking work and give the guy fucking 20...

Yeah, so now... So now, so if he gave me an eight ball, and it was... I had to give him chop up 15 songs. I give him. And I was... Like I said, we was... I remember one time, I could, like,

somebody had a knock on a dough because we had two of... You didn't. So the point, we had two apartments, like an apartment building across from each other, and we kept the work in that one, and we did what we do that. And I remember just going in the hallway, and in that time, like, selling like three eight balls in stones. Like, before they even chopped up, like, uh-huh, just before I even went back into the other one, just for motherfuckers coming in the hallway.

That's how crazy. This was like late 90s, so, like 98, 99. It had to be the end of the crack era, though, because no one, I feel like there's no new crackheads now. Like, no one just digs right now. I'm going to do another shit. People still smoking crack, but I guarantee they go home. I want to try crack. Listen,

80, 85 in New York City, you'd make a right turn off the main street. Let me give an example. And I'd say you were driving on Broadway on 181st Street, and you made a right turn within two blocks. Two blocks.

Like within a block, you'd see motherfuckers on the corner just looking at you, and they're the ones that don't tell you nothing. They want you to come up to them and ask them for directions. Then you go, what are you looking for? And they're like, I'm looking to get high. What do you need?

I got it right now. But if you went down another block, the more you went away from that, you looked at the savages. Lee, they're the ones that run up to your car. Oh, yeah? That was that. And hold your fucking, your rearview mirror.

That was bad. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Let me get motherfucking two ounces of coke. Yo, Flacco, come on over here. Let me see the cash.

You ain't a cop, right? No, I ain't a cop. Let's do this shit. Bam. When you come on the block from now on, ask for Danny B. I'm here all day from 12 to 12. Lee, it was a business that was being run on the street,

and there was 10 motherfuckers on the same street, fighting for the same nickel. And guess what? They would all go home with pockets fat. And do the cops just not care? Do they not know? Are they? I mean, no.

They know. You play that game. You play that game. They're coming. They're going to come. day you're going to go on one day one day you're going to beat in one day it's just a part of the game you know see but it's not a game though you but every day you know you not that's not you don't you're not thinking about that like that was just not nothing you're just thinking about the money you're not even

there anymore danny and I'm worried for you like it just that's scary away from that life if it's on another I'm away I'm just 36 years old about to be in March you know what I'm saying so I'm so far that we're talking about 98 99 like back and that, like, that shit was so fucking. But anyway, like, that shit got fucked over. Like you're saying, we end up being those savages on the block because we ain't had that apartment no more. And those savages were getting...

We didn't have. Those guys never had dick. And now they're giving them an opportunity to make 300 cash a day. They don't even go home. Those dudes don't even go home because they ain't nothing at home but a fan and a floor. Why go home?

I'll stay out here all fucking... And that's how it is. You don't go home because you might miss the white dude that comes over to buy. With the $100,000 that comes over to get Coke for his whole neighborhood or weed for his whole neighborhood.

Because then after a while you become the guy Lee. I don't like going into the city. I'm scared. Okay, no problem. Those $20 bags you like, they became 40. Because now you're going into the city league. You became friends with Danny. And as soon as Danny sees you on the block,

you page him before you come over. He's out there waiting for you. What is it about? Guess what? Nobody will say a fucking word to you on that street. Nobody will try to rob you on that street. If you have a lot on you, somebody will get in the car and follow you to that fucking bridge. It's amazing how must they protect you? Because you are their livelihood. Danny's not going to call me and go, Joey, went on the corner for a Volkswagen with a short little Jew in there

and hit him in the head with a stick and take these drugs. There's no money in that. they want you to keep coming back. It's such a weird. It's a business. It's a business. It's all it is. There's no other way to bring it down.

What we did in 85. But the fucked up part about it is that, like me, like I say, all that savage, like I didn't never get caught. No. There's no trouble, like he said, with the police. I didn't go to jail for that. I went to jail for weed. That's crazy.

That's what got me locked up was selling weed. But I'm going to tell you why. Because when you say, oh, crack, it's so sketchy and it's so, you know, it's a real way. Girl, we know what you're dealing with when you fucking with that type of shit. You know, you know what you know what you're involved with. With weed, it's your homies. It's Lee.

He's trying to come over here and buy a bag. You know, they're pulling up the music loud. You know what I'm saying? Everybody, they're coming over a wild time. You know, crack, it's discreet. Everything was, even though we had this apartment building, and it was still, like, even when we used to get raided. It was the time we was getting raided like two times a week.

But no one would never get caught because they had to get buzzed in to get into the apartment. building and who else gonna buzz them in but a crack head or a person selling crack so once they come they lease out there five minutes before they even get in to even try to break the door because the door was so it was like not that type of door you can hit with the shit and it's gonna open and we would just run straight up we would just leave out the apartment run straight on the roof and go out like the chimney and just sit on top of the chimney you couldn't you couldn't get us we'd leave a ounce of weed up there just go up to it rose some bloods up smoke today leave come back down,

pay a crackhead to clean the motherfucker up, back open the next night, back up in a few hours. You'd pay it up there. That was the rule. That was the way it was. It was fun, though. I hate to say it.

I loved it. I loved it. I would do it all over again. I would do it all over again. I hate to say it. But see, I used to go down blocks that were fucking savages, like in, like in the late 80s in New York. See, that's a different piece.

You geez came. When those Mario Litos came, you didn't know they were black or fucking Cuban, and they would sit on that street and run after you. But when I got to San Francisco, the Cubans were selling weed on coke and weed on the street. And I told them, I said, guys, you're going to get nailed every fucking day. Go down to the corner and put a dice game up here. Put a dice game up there. And they looked at me all weird the same way.

You know, because I was like, that's like Brigh and Murray, right? I'd rather them stop for the dice game. By the time the dice game was getting broken up, the Coke dude was running down the corner. Uncle Joey, see, that's what... Uncle Joey, that's right. And the dude was in Bougarong.

The dude was one of those Cuban dudes that saw Coke that used to be married with kids, but when he went to jail, he became part of that lifestyle where you just fuck men. And they suck your dick, but you don't let them. them fuck you. So he was a

Cuban dude that would be well dressed and he'd have two dudes with wigs on and makeup and shit. And that was his point men in the operation. So I would tell him to hide the Coke in the bumpers. Right? Listen to me. You know him the real deal. Holyfield.

And he would smack him and their wig would fall off from the street. Like he was a domestic... It was 1985. You get domestic violence whoever you wanted to do. Thanks. He was domestic violence in these half a fan. He would smack them open-handed, like if they brought the wrong liquor. Why is that domestic violence?

Because you can't be smacking people like that. But he had a wig on. It counts for something. And in those days, never know... They just battery. In those days, never know our LBGT community. No. He would just smack them, though.

He would like the man was. He would just smack them in the street if they fucked anything up. Anything. And they would be there with him. They would be like two guys dressed up as women. And they would be side by side and he'd be slaying coke. And nobody would say dick to him because he was one of those Mario Lettos. The ones that came in 1980 with Scarface, those crazy motherfuckers.

So would you see them around, like, around town just with black eyes? Like, would you see them beat up around town? All the time. He would choke him in public. Oh, my God. He would do the weirdest fucking kick him, drop kick him. What was they doing for him? He had an apartment where they both lived.

And he would take him up in the daytime and give him dick, pay for the best. and they would hire his drugs. Everybody knew that his drugs were hitting upstairs in these two gay dudes apartment. This was fucking nuts. This was fucking the street of nuts. But I bet I could, in some sense, but I bet you they could hold water more than a female

in that certain situation. I could trust a man to hold my work instead of a woman. He would travel with them too. He would take him to Miami to pick up the blow. He would travel with them like they would fucking. That was his logic. I'm trying to think them out. You know what I'm trying to think them out. You know what?

It's fucking crazy. When you walked in here, you said something, and I've been dying to ask you, what is a fucking mixtape? That's how fucking old I am. Break it down for Uncle Joy. What's a mixtape? And I guess a mix tape would just be, and back in the day it would be you would take other people beats. It's just freestyle over them because you couldn't, you didn't have that good of production as, essentially. accessible to you, you know?

So you're taking whatever the top industry beats is, and if you can do it as good as an industry rapper at that point, it will show how good you is, you know? So making a mix-take was a good point to show how good you was in the rapper, like maybe early 2000s.

You know me a favor? Play OPP for a second. You're on with OPP? I'm just going to ask you a question. I just want to learn something. Tretch, naughty by nature. I just went to, uh, when I I go to Edgewater, I stay in Edgewater when I go to Jersey. Mm-hmm. When I do New York, I stay in the edgewater.

Yeah. I see him, Matt. Yeah. Well, he don't live in the hood no more. He lives in Edgewater, now. What? What? What?

Now, who is he paying? Other people's property. This song is talking about fucking other niggas bitches. Oh, no, no. I'm not talking about that. Oh. I hear Michael Jackson. Oh, oh.

Is this a mixtape right here? Who's he paying? No, this is an album. No, this is a album. No, this is a budget. They have to clear that same. Now how much time they paid a lot of fucking money. That's why that song's a big hit. They paid it, I bet he never made, I bet he probably didn't make no money off this song.

That's a commercial, that's what I call them. When you use a fucking sample that is so expensive that you're not even going to be able to clear no money, or even like if you use a like, like me, like with my last album, I like used a part from Jay-Z and Kanye song on dip, where I say, don't let me enter my zone. And just off that alone, I don't even own that record no more. They make more money off that record than I could. You know what I'm saying? Just from using that little part.

And there's just out here. Or the dip part. That was like a DJ and a nasty part from Atlanta. Like you can't do it. Like that's why I never would do that shit ever. Okay, so is that a mixtape right then OPP? No, that's from their album. That's from their debut album, actually.

That was the first single from their album. But we were talking about mixtapes became popular probably like 2000, early 2000. So a mixtape. At first, a mixtape was from DJs. That was DJs just finding the exclusive records from top rappers. To the point where they were still in records, like, back in like, let's say, mid-90s, early 90s to late 90s. You know what I'm saying? That was when the mixtape in New York, that was the mixtape scene was cracking.

Because I remember, like, if a motherfucker went to New York and came back with like a DJ Clue mixtape, and they were, you know what I'm saying, come back. And you'll hear that shit, it would have shit on that you could never, because it's before the internet. So that was how you heard shit you would never, because I guess hearing demo versions, because sometimes you would hear a song, and you would end up hearing the real version of that song when the album came out,

and it was like, it was like, damn there are two different worlds. He was like, damn, I liked it did the mixtape version better. So I guess in the demo version, or sometimes just hearing, like, I guess, exclusive. Sometimes people leaking records to the DJ, giving them the, because that DJ had had hot at that point. You know what I'm saying? Like a DJ, back in the day, it was like DJ,

DJ clue, you know, then, you know, it was a thousand DJ, but I remember back in the producer, I'm in my basement, ziggas, zika, zika, zika. I come up with a fucking zika, zika, I put it on a mix, I put it on a fucking, uh, you get it to a DJ. I give it to a DJ at a club.

It just all happens, just chilling with Wiz Khalifa. You hear that beat and you go, who's beat is that? I want that beat. You go up to the DJ, who gets paid here? Nobody gets, At this point, man, ain't no money in rap music. I really feel like that.

So this tape, I just made my... No, all that is free. You don't give me that time. Nothing. Nothing. With Mixed, we're talking to all free world. I mean, you're using other people music. No, this is my music.

I'm not my bass music. See? Like with me, my first album that you considered to be my first album, which is triple X, which, you know, it was considered to be a mixteat when it came out because it was free. But it was an album to me when I was making it. I was making an album, you know? I had just signed my first deal with an indie label, Fools Gold, so I was making an album.

I wasn't thinking about making a mixtape. Who paid you? I mean, they signed me. When I signed, I got a, you know, I got the signing bonus. And that's it. That's it. I didn't even get a budget for this record. For that record.

I didn't even have a budget for it. What a crazy fucking world. Bro, like, I had a friend that just was cool enough to just like, he ran, he worked at a studio. And if I just pay him, like a good, good-ass studio, if I just pay him then he would stay late hours and just let me record

so I would have to go to his studio maybe like two in the morning and record all the way to six so I recorded that album that I'm talking about like four sessions maybe like you know like mixed and master everything boom turned in because

I mean I wrote it for them in like a year though like that's why I fucking I fucking relate to comedy so much in some sense because I'm more of a writer I think to anything I just rap because I think that was just what I was around.

But I think the writing part is what I love the most. You know, just being up late night and writing some shit and just singing it to myself like, there's some shit. And then once I recorded and put it out and then seeing all the reviews and shit, I get back and be like, oh, yeah, I was right. You know, I knew all that hard work I put in writing and fucking every night sitting with this shit, rewriting and recording it, re-recording, you know. So I like the writing part because I hate sitting in the studio.

That's the one part I hate them. Now, who comes up with the beats? With me, I have a producer in London that I work with a lot that I connect with. His name Paul White. I work with him since, like, yeah, for like the last triple X. And, like, you know, so that's like my main producer I work with. And other than that, I try to work with, like, producers at this point that I always wanted to work with. So I reach out to, like, all the old school guys that, like, I want to, I would love to work with Riza from the Wu-Tang.

You know what I'm saying? At this point. So I'm just trying to get with all the producers that I always wanted to work with at this point. But at this point, like, yeah, I work with Paul White. It's a guy in London. But he pretty much, like, he was more into, like, he into a lot of the psychedelic shit that I was into. And that's why I connect with him, like, because he's just, it's like a lot of live instrumentation. You know what I'm saying?

Type shit. So it ain't just a motherfucker just sampling, you know? It's like we, I don't know. We really trying to, like, be progressive with rap at this point. Who are your influences? With rap or in general? In general, music. Yeah, like, in general, man, I would say, like, fucking, like, Nause as rap, like, rap music.

Commendous. Nause is, like, that's what I always, like, looked up to. Because I just looked at that, like, the great story of, like, I don't know, of what a rapper is supposed to be. Like, I always say, like, a rapper can't be made. Like, every day a motherfucker say, I was. want to be a rapper. I never had that conversation with myself. Rappers are born. You know what I'm saying? I was in kindergarten and I was in show and tell. I ain't had nothing to show or tell. I ain't know. And I just said a rap randomly and the

class was lit. The class was like that shit was dope. Can I ask you a question, Danny? And I was thinking about this and it's, and I just kept rap it. I swear that's I started rapping. Kindergarten. I was thinking about this the other day. A lot of like musicians and like when you think of guys, you don't really think of singing being like a very, like, manly activity. And I know rapping isn't technically really always singing. But, like, I don't know.

Is it, like, tough? Is it manly to be a singer? Some of the best singers weren't even good singers, though. Okay. Yeah, you feel me? Like, some of my favorite artists, I don't think, like, in that world, like, I don't think Ian Curtis was a great singer, like, from Joy Division. I love Joy, Division. That's the one of my favorite bands.

So that's one of my biggest influences. Joy, Division. That's actually my last album was just like really like influence and like really like I guess like tribut it to him in some sense. I called it a trosity exhibition because that first song of that closer album like I really just hit home with me really hard. You know, so I just took that one song and made a whole album out of it. Who is the crackhead from The Temptation? The Crackhead, David Ruffin. That's, he's got a great voice.

Yeah. Now that's a real scene. So you born with shit like that. That's born with it. When you went so long, walk away from love, whatever, all that shit. I wish it would rain. That's my biggest one. I wish it would rain from all that shit.

That's my favorite temptation. It is very masculine to singly. It is. You feel? Fuck. Yeah. Well, because I think it's Monday. We're going to play Tony Bennett here in a minute.

And Tony Bennett. We love Tony Bennett, man. For decades, it's been doing it. But I was thinking about it the other day. It's like, you both joey's like especially you're very much like a man like you like men's men like tough things and then just singing just seems a little bit apart from that a little but not not like you're like a wimp but it just i don't like it for a second it doesn't really click up you ever heard those

narco songs yeah that's what i'm saying you heard them niggins singing dude you go in the fucking seven-eleven you hear some mexican music playing and it just sounded they just playing some fucking margarita music or something and ain't really talking about chopping heads off and killing people like that's true yeah that's like the craziest thing of the world of making. Expression

has been around you know I love these people like right now you showed up tonight you showed up with five of the greatest classic rap albums of all the time yeah you know how to come through it you know but it's like I'm the motherfucker that tells you that no rap's been around for a long time

with that put on something fell while the album finally went and Tocico okay this is this is rapping Cuba in 1960

okay tell me what songs are available all right how did you even know what he said I grew up on this you like this one Agua cake

Vazera no NL Carajon Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kayao, I don't want to pronounce that. That's the one. He just, he's talking over conga drums. Okay?

They sound like narcos already. Yeah. I'm still waiting for somebody to buy the rights to this and rap over this. I mean, it's easy car. And he was talking some gangster shit. He's talking about. This fucking neighbor dog. He's talking about Hilda.

And Hilda told him, I was out doing my fucking thing. Just a translation. Poteet? No, I have to definitely check this up. just a bass in condos. Andy Garcia paid for the bass player to get on a Cuba. This is like, when you go to a Cuban's house

and you look at their record collection, if you don't have this, you just get up and leave. Because this is the heart of Cuba. This is, this is, put on the Awa Kewaka'a. I swear to God, but... This is what the Nanyagoes used to play for that. That is the type of shit that I like to rap to. Oh, this is the shit somebody needs to rap to this.

Like minimal shit? This is, this is, this is, This is something that this album that I play all the time on here. This is like a lot of rap music. Dog, this is... This is... This is the beginning of mumble rap. ...that it's...

...bago, baby. Dog, this is... This is fucking too much. This is too much. That's experiment in the end of spinus. That this is 1960-some. 1960 something. There's one jam off that first down that he's fucking...

And this was huge. This was huge for Cuba. This was like huge in the Afro-Cuban community. That's the other community of Cuba. You have three different types of Cubans. You have the white-skinned ones. You have the Tregnios who are mixed with the Indians that Columbus killed. And then you got motherfuckers that look like Danny Brown.

And that's just the way it is in Cuba. Now, the motherfuckers that look like Danny Brown It just didn't pop up on an island. They were the slaves they brought over that stayed. And they had this fucking language And they had this whole thing going on And that's why it's called Afro-Cuban. Okay.

Because it's very African. They just put a little Cuban on top of it And this shit will go. That's just like Afro-Beat shit too. Yeah, hence a lady called Celia Cruz. That's Afro-Cuban. Play a kimbabana kumbada from. That one I can't type, Daniel.

Yeah, you can't. Just pressing Selly Cruz. It'll be the one of the songs I call. Right? This is Afro-Cuban, and it's so weird when I listen to it type of music. What is it called? That's like rap music for you. This is rap music for Cuban people.

Now they have their own rap music. Yeah, of course, everybody. Now they have their own rap music in Cuba. It's called Selya Cruz. Right. And it begins with a cue. Kimbara? Yeah.

Who the fuck is this? Maybe I give me a 5.46 in the morning, cracker dawn and... You know, I mean, this is black African music in Cuba. Damn barakumba. Shit, it's got 24 million views. Oh, no. This is the weird because she got a Hollywood on the fuck old. That bitch got a star jacket.

See, when she signed, if you watch the... The series on fucking... Netflix. When she signed with the first label, they were throwing Cuban music out of it. And they're like, it ain't working. And some guy in New York said, Doug, you gotta call her blood.

You gotta tap into a blood. And that was the rest is history. Damn. You got to tap into what the fuck you are, bro. This ain't no... This ain't no rap music. You just shut this stuff. I like both of.

Oh, no, that's tremendous. That's, even my wife likes that album. That's a great album. That's like a fucking great album right there. Now, Danny, do you go and tell your guy in London, like, I want something like this or this? Or is he just, like, does he just send you? No, how it started. Even how it started, it's just email.

It's just email. He'd make beats at home and just send them. And that's pretty much how I started. He started sending me beats in like 2000. And I just remember just getting a random email. You know, you know how it is. You had your Twitter, you had your whatever, and you had your fucking email out. And I just had an email to send, you know, and you just sent some beats to me.

One day, I just opened them up. And I'm like, fuck. They were really good. So I just hit them back and just, you just started working ever since. And that was just 2017. What the fuck? Listen, let's get the fucking elephant out of the room. My blood is music.

Yeah, facts. I just, the drugs, I knew. that I could never have the commitment I needed for music. It's like drugs I was doing it. It's like drugs and music are hand in hand. Not this level of drugs. I'd be some microphones or shit. I'd be housing things, you know, you don't need that.

Who was here last? First off, you know, you got 20 black dudes in your studio and I'm the thief. You know what I'm saying? So it just wouldn't go off well. It just wanted to like, there were 20 motherfuckers in here and the white dude is the fight.

I would steal these chairs. When I was starting, I was. snorting, I was snorting. How are you going to steal chairs? I just knew that I would porn that guitar. So everything in the studio. I'd call on that fucking guitar and that snubber. Everything in the studio. But everything I say,

I think, I don't know, I think it really just, with me and music, like you, I love music. I'm a fan more than I think I am. The artist of it. You grew up in music at the house. My dad was more into house music. That's crazy. What's house music?

House music. like just like you know like dance music like tech like Detroit techno like ghetto tech like shit like that just that was my life moms is that where is that way I had young parents that's what happened my mom's was 18 my dad was

16 when I was born my grandma grandparents you never go over there my grandparents my my dad's mom is Filipino so that's that whole world okay so I got that Filipino world and then my mom's is black so yeah my My grandma's still living, but I never met my grandpops, none of my granddad's and

nothing like that. There's never really a lot of men in my family to be honest. I had one uncle who was in jail all the time. Then I had another uncle who was my auntie's boyfriend, my mom's older sister. And he's pretty much, like, he's been more influential, like, than probably anybody in my life. To be honest. You know, my dad's, like I said, he had me that. 16.

Jesus. So, yeah. Then he had four kids. Like, then he had three kids back to back. Like, my dad was a criminal. I think about it every, like, I think about all the time. Like, he was really kind of like, it keeps crazy. What, like 16 and 20?

He had a kid every year. He had 16, 17, 18. Then he stopped a year. Didn't have one at 19. So about 20, he had four kids. Fuck. Different fucking world, my friend. So imagine being right.

Different. The fucking world, my friend. You know, when I listen to your music, first of all, we came in here when Danny goes, some dude Danny Brown wants to be on the podcast. Thanks. I thought it was a white dude. So for a month, people are hearing of Danny Brown on there.

I kept thinking Danny Brown was the white dude Rogan hat on that smoked joints after joint after joint. Blood after blood after blood. What's the white dude that he had? Do you want me to say it? Don't worry about it. Don't say it. I didn't know. He comes in here.

Pappada, Bapa da, Bapa, da Papa, dappy Dany Brown, Danny Brown, Danny Brown. Danny Brown. Yeah. Listen, if I want Eminem, I'll fucking call him. All right? I thought it was a white dude. If I want Eminem, I'll send him a fucking telegram.

All right? So I go home one night. I'm stoned to the fucking gills. He's loyal about weird things. thing. Right? And, yeah, I don't need no white rapper. First of all, I invented the white rapper in 1985.

You're looking at them right here. Joey Diaz, invented the right rapper at the Sheridan on 57 and fucking 7th. I broke it down for this black dude and a white dude that were from a record label. I was bartending, and I said to them, listen, the fucking, you know, the two guys in Brooklyn. who the two guys in Brooklyn, 85? Beastie boys? No, way before the Beastie Boys. I told the other dude,

fucking snap pop, crap, go on Pop. What's his name? Come on, my Adidas. Oh, Run DMC? Run DMC. I go, listen, run DMC is great. And some, and Grandmaster Flash is great, and all that show is great.

But you guys got to get a white dude. A white dude. But the Beast, Beastie Boys. The Beastie Boys came on movie two years later. Yeah. I swear to God, I'm like, see? See? I'm a fucking genius.

See? See? Even now, like, with, that's what I'm saying. Rap music now, I feel like it's, like, so oversaturated. I can't even see how people even make money in it at this point. There's so many rappers. Like, it's just, especially with the internet, which is a great thing, to be honest. It's a great thing.

Yeah, I saw a video about this other, this rapper yesterday, and it blew my mind. There's this guy chants the rapper. Yeah, Chan. I don't really, I don't know anything about him. Just ever since I got into podcast, I don't listen to music anymore. I really don't want to Grammys, man. He's fucking huge. He was on the Grammys.

He did for the White House. He did Saturday Night Live twice. And he doesn't charge for any of his music. He don't have a record deal. So what is he just, he did this own festival where like 50,000 people came. And he, so he just charges for that stuff? Just the Internet. That's crazy.

It's a whole new world. No, I still come from that era. Like I said, I've been trying to do it since. the late 90s so i come from that whole different era you know of how to do it and but these kids yeah it's a whole different world with them like me like i always wanted to be on an independent label kind of because i knew i couldn't like i had a freedom i wanted to do with my music that i couldn't do on a major label like being signed to like i couldn't make the girl songs or the club like you got to think the music business is exactly what it is the music business but i didn't realize

that and two now I'm kind of got deep in it and it's like fuck nobody knows the once you get a mortgage once you get a mortgage and you're like fuck you know the business side of it is what put you into shock yeah because guys like you and I started just to get out of what we were doing yeah I was one point in time in my life I was like if I could just be able to just support my weed habit and to pay my rent right buy fresh clothes and pay I'm good I'm happy I'm good I'm good I'm good I'm good I'm I didn't do that on rap music. I'm happy with that.

I swear. I thought I was going to travel all the time. I wasn't going to get a residence. I was going to get like a downpoint, like live with four dudes. My plan was to travel 40 weeks a year, no kids, no wife, no family, and just do comedy. But see, now with this chance guy and guys like yourself with the internet, so your music is free, but you charge. on the road yeah that's pretty much you get paid that's it you get paid for your show that's it you know how that is though we think about the level of those guys though like like they didn't

even like they were just getting millions of dollars off their music like we're not making no money off music the music is the commercial that's why i call it the commercial the commercial now you're selling everything else that's why me i'm trying to getting more into doing anything else like rap to me i'm trying to make it more of a hobby and just starting to try to you know it's Of course it's my number one job, but it was my hobby before. And that's when I loved it. And that's when I felt like I could do my best at it. I don't want to ever look at it to the point where I know that it's paying my bill.

So I got to do it. I got to do with it, you know, and sacrifice the art or make shit that I don't really want to make just because I know to make some money. Just because I need that to pay my bills, you know? So I'm trying to just do more shit. Like, I'm getting more into, like, voiceover. Like, just trying to do like, you know, like cartoons and shit. always been just wanting to get into that you know I think you're always rap I mean I'm driving on the fucking street there's a billboard of ice cube about to

beat up a white dude you know fist fight like I need to watch this move I know he can't wait for it to get on him and his girlfriend are gonna go because they like that guy there's some parks and rack and he's funny and you know he's he's always sunny but dude I can't I can't forget my Ice Cube for a ride along. The joke is here that even though I'm looking at Ice Cube and I'm looking at this thing. All you think about is Ice Cube. I'm thinking about to die.

How are you going to like me now? I'm in the mix. You can't. It's 1886. And I got the, you know what I'm saying? But that's the point. That's all I'm saying. There's so many avenues now where you can make a living, but you're still going to go to rap.

What it makes you do in a way is that now when you go back to rap, the intensity even with myself. Let's pretend tomorrow and Lee they come to me and they shoot a movie for eight months and you can't do stand-up. You know what? After a month, I'm going to be happy

but I'm going to be sad. I'm going to start writing. And I'm going to write the best shit. It's so hard with rap music though, man. It's really, sometimes it's really depressing, to be honest. Because you can, like me, a person, I spend two years, three years to make an album.

I would never receive the most. money or anything that I could get back from rap music that I put into that I made. Like other back in the day, like maybe everybody else could probably see the return. Like nowadays, some kid could just make one random song on South Cloud and now he's, you know, winning the Grammy tomorrow. Do you feel what I'm saying? So it's almost like, it's a whole, like I said, a whole new world. You can't really, it's like a new ball game.

Like I feel like, and I'm still playing by old rules. kind of you know I mean somewhere along the line you can play with old rules but like new way of thinking you know listen I see a lot of comics my age

than I've been at home yeah you know I could have been at home time my daughter too thanks I know I know I know but same here I want to be with my cats yeah I want my voice to be heard we want to get out there

you know This is our commercial. This is Lee and I's commercial. Lee wants to do consulting. I want to do stand-up. This is our fucking commercial. Somewhere along the line, you've got a sacrifice. But it's not a bad sacrifice.

No, not at all. Because 20 years ago, you didn't have this opportunity. No, because it was a great year ago, you didn't have this. The way I look at it is an American dream. You want to be able to support yourself off something you love doing. Nothing sucks more than, like we said. I was a fucking selling crack. I didn't want to do that shit.

I just wanted some Jordans. You feel what I'm saying? Like so now it's at a point where, yeah, I'm comfortable in life, but it sucks when you see, like, I don't know, you see like certain, certain music. I don't know, like half a noun type stuff. It's almost like, I don't know, like rapping a bank. Years ago. I feel like it's like rapping banks sometimes with the way people make music sometimes

because they know what they're doing because they're that talented. they're that talented that they can make something that they can program with you to like. They know it sucks to their self. They're wearing a more talented, but they know this is what the people like. When your boy and the other guy stole that song

from Marvin Gaye. Your boy. He ain't my boy. What's that dude's name? Robin Dick. I didn't know I was stealing the song. I was on pain medication. Robert Dick.

I will smack you the fucking death. The first time I had, heard that song. I said, that's Marvin Gay. I said that to myself in a fucking car. That's Marvin motherfucking gay. The other poor little bastard. I don't know, I never heard that song before. How the fuck did you not hear that song? You grew up in a black house. Who the fuck you think you're talking to? Doesn't I'm saying it's the same thing. Like if somebody stole a joke. Oh, please. It's a fucking nightmare. It's the same thing. But it happens all the time.

I think more with music, though, people just, it's like a trend to just like back in the day like Wu-Tang when the motherfuckers around you came out and tried to rap like Wu-Tang Wu-Tang might fuck you up Nowadays it's just cool

to just sound like whatever's hot Like let's just say whoever the high rapper is Everybody that just try to rap Just sound like him It's like no more originality I think that's what the internet Kind of fucked up though

Because I remember time of life Where we just had these albums Going about tapes And going about shit in The ghetto boys didn't look like Dr. Dre And Dr. Dre And Dr.

didn't look like Wootang. But nowadays you look at every rapper, they all look the same. Everybody's got the hood on. Everybody's cold. They could be in fucking Florida and they got a fucking hoodb a wig cap on and shit.

God forbid they don't have to goatee, the fucking, you know. Everybody looks to say, what is it? What's going on? Well, at what point is that allowed like that amount of sampling? Just for example. When sampling is all about

what happens is let's just say I take like you say okay this is what could happen with that with that case with the Michael Jackson record let's just say I sample the Michael Jackson record right and I want to get it clear but then they say fuck for you to use that cost a million dollars fuck I can't afford a million dollars to pay for that Michael Jackson sample so I take it and I get it replayed and you will go find people who can replay this you find a band you find some players or you get it piece by piece. It was a bass on there. It was a piano. You find the instruments and you find musicians that can replay this. And then you can just use that because you don't have to clear that because you replayed it. Really? And that's how.

But it sucks kind of when you do that. It's never the same as what it was with the sample. Like my last album, Oh, I was a lot of replays. And the replays is never as good. Like I wish people, sometimes I'd be wanting people to hear the original demos or some of these songs that we replayed. Like if you hit the actual shit, it was phenomenal. I mean, it came out still. I mean, I did the best what I could possibly do with what I had, you know?

But I really liked the original. That's why. But this, I must spend 70,000 in samples alone. Like, I don't have that type of money to be putting into an album. You feel what I'm saying? Let's pretend you have an album. One with smoking and drinking on it. Yeah, that one I didn't really have a budget that I had with it.

All right. So let's pretend. Smoking and drinking was not a sample, though. No, no, no, I'm just saying. I like that album. Whatever that piece is with you on the cover, I like a couple songs from that. Let's pretend Janet Jackson comes to you.

Let's pretend Joey Diaz comes to you tomorrow. He goes, hey, man, I like the beginning of smoking and drinking. I want to use it on my next CD, and you're like $50,000. Oh, no, see, I signed that all that goes through, like, my publishing deal. Okay, so I'm the same, a publishing deal. Like, I don't even be knowing. Like, I just signed a publishing deal. I've always like

I just renew a publishing deal not too long ago but I don't be knowing like you sign a publishing deal and just one day you wake up on your songs on TV show You got paid for it? Yeah I mean you know You get the little checks in

But it don't be like that You know I mean you get the first pay in From the publishing company That first signing bonus And then after that They got to you know They're trying to recoup off that

So You just look up Your shit be on any My question was I should be in the town commercial. My question was... I don't know nothing.

Feel what I'm saying? Would Janet Jack... No, not Janet Jackson. She's fucking... Would Reanne pay more for that? I mean, no, hell no. What you...

That's the difference with that, too. That's what I'm saying. Popular in the motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Everybody let you use them of a little for free. Because I can't let you use... I've always...

Listen. Yeah, right. Find me Janet Jackson. In 94, no, no, no, no, 97 she put out an album called the Velvet Rope. Yeah, Velvet Rope was lit. Give me the songs on the album. I was on her freaky shit. I like that album.

That's when she dumped the ball of the house. She even had a masturbating skit on there and some shit. That album was lit. On the side of the song. That was her most hip-hop album, though, that she had. What's the songs on that? Okay, give me one second, here. That was her most, like, that was, like, some real.

It was like some Dilla shit on there, to be honest, like, really like some D-Trade shit on that album, to be honest. I fuck with that album. So the six singles? Is that what you want? I bought that album. I don't know. The Velvet Roop. What song is your album?

I can't believe. I bought this album. I remember this, man. But that was the time. Like, I actually missed that. Like, I remember the time my life, like, every Saturday. Like, I just go to the record store and just... Everybody.

That's why I grew up in a store. I had to buy something. The coolest album cover. I don't care. The coolest album comes. I guess it was a dry time, and I just grabbed the velvet rope one time. I got to grab this. That single cracking.

Nothing else. You know what I'm saying? I got to just grab it. I might have a grill over or something. I'm going to hear, Janet. But the velvet rope was laid. All right. So we got twisted elegance, velvet rope.

You got until it's gone. That's the fire one. Interlude. My need. Got so it's gone. Hold on. What else? Speakerphone,

the two interludes, so maybe it's like a skit. The one that don't play nobody about you. You? Yeah, see, that's the one. Like this song here, she samples this whole fucking jam.

All right. She paid, though. But part two to that, it's like, it comes out of your budget. Like, they give you a budget for an album. So from Janet Jackson,

she gets a bag of a budget. So who knows? She probably three millions back in. Damn. She had a $3 million budget for a dollar budget. And that includes the videos. So nobody makes videos. It calls videos.

Right here. Yeah, I remember this shit. How do you always find live shit? I'm sorry. Don't worry about, no way, but that's the song of war. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, she paid him, but, like, it's, I don't. It's dope, to be honest.

To me, it's art. I don't know. I don't know. I like it. I love it. I like, I like, I like it. I like it. I like it.

I like it not like in that sense where you're taking it. Like loops is cool where you're taking something and it's just a whole, it's just a reinterpretation of that piece. That's cool. But I love when you can take something like that and just chop it up and deconstruct it to the point where you couldn't even tell where I sampled that from. Well, even OPP. Yeah.

That's a loop though. That's like so like. That's a loop. That's I like that loop. Yeah. Because ABC shit. Who did like that? But that's, but the thing is about that.

with me taking something so popular like that a loop that if you you got to kill that shit you can't come half ass on no fucking Michael Jackson sample what the fuck like that is too like I don't what is you gonna come with on that like you know like so to me I never I don't know I can't wrap over something that popular I wouldn't wrap over a sample that popular no what's a deal and I don't want to start any any problems but like for example I don't know anything about rap and I know that it's well known that Drake has used other people's lyrics. Yeah. So like what, what, like, was that like stealing?

No, it's not using people lyrics. He feels like he used people waves. But in some sense, like, he's not really used people waves. He put people on too. And what I, what that meaning is like, let's just say you made a song, Lee, right? Right. You made a song. And you're just some kid from somewhere and you had on the internet.

And it wasn't really popular like that, but it was popular in your little circle. It was popular in your little, you know, your situation. And then now he jumped on and shed some light on it. And, yeah, it made the song more popular. And it got the song on the radio. You became a big star. It became a hit song. But that's all it was for you.

And it just was another hit under his belt. Okay. So. And now when you try to do it on your own, you can't. You know what I'm saying? Okay, let's start this in scratch. You're in Detroit. You're the king of your fucking little hip-hop community within a mile.

Yeah, because you had to do that. It was one point in time I had to do that. You're the king of that club. One point in time I did have to put. The sugar honey, that's your club. I had to put the foot down. I had to put the foot down. The sugar honey is your club.

Whatever, the fucking sweet tooth on Lancashim, that belongs to Lysayat. He wraps his debt off over there. It's white young Jews. They jump up and down. Let's come see you. You don't go see them. Joey Diaz, best rapper in the game. Plays the Cobo Arena or whatever the fuck.

Cobo. Is that still the song? Yeah, cobo. I mean, whatever's big. I don't even know. I don't know. I think it still is. So somebody comes up to me and says,

Joey, what are you doing afterward? You know me, Doug. I ain't got no after party. But one of my girls says, she's popping off over at where D. Brown is the paint, all right? I walk in, D. Brown is doing his setup on stage. You know, you got a couple songs recorded. You're working at the tire shop to put your demo together.

You know, you're like fucking dude and eight miles. Yeah. I come in, I hear you sing smoking and drinking. What happens now? I take it from you, or I sing it better than you and put you on the song to do two lyrics. You get $2 and you go home. Yeah.

That's your little naps out. That's probably the second option. So let's see, I go in there. I like you the way that song is popping off. I give you a hug. We high five. We're black. We're beautiful.

All that fucking game, okay? We go into a studio a week later. You tell your family, Drake, is flying me up there. He puts you in a hotel. He sends some fucking chicken there in a room. You know, you go to the studio. You lay it down. He sings the whole thing.

He adds lyrics. to your jam. You go home. What do you sign now? Your life away? Is there any percentage? Your life away? You signed everything away?

Even for being the writer of the song. That's the point of it is you want to make a career out of rap music. That's the goal. That's the people not realizing. There are people in rap music with careers. Like literally careers. Like you're not looking at them like the biggest rapper in the world. You're not thinking about them, but they tour all the time.

They can tour it. they want they can make an album they can get a budget from their label whenever they want to make an album you feel them saying then you have these big guys that you got to stay on the radio once you don't make a hit your label might drop you like you know 360 deals which is the worst shit that ever been invented in music history that's what's probably killed rap music and 360 deal is when you know now you sign to a major label they taking the money from your merch they take the money from your show and they take the money from your music. Back in the day,

what I known is that the record label, the music business only take music. You make money from your merch and you make the money from your shows. And that's the way I feel, you know. Like, you know, my principle in it, that's probably why I can't, I would never really sign with major labels.

Because now they don't make enough money on music. Yeah, they got to take it all. So they got to take a piece of everything. Your T-shirts. Yeah, they're not. your tours and your in the old days I give you a budget which is basically in advance right yeah so once the album drops because you really trying to stash that you know everybody's trying to stash their advance even though I this last album I spent more

than what I got on my shit you know and I got prey I mean on so I like I said I spend 70 000 samples alone and I'm on an independent company and I don't have that type of money to be spending on fucking music so like when you're I got to a fucking big family. I'm from Detroit. You give it what I'm saying? So when you go on the road now, there's three different T-shirts. Oh, yeah, hell yeah. We have a whole fucking booop.

Yeah, everything. The thing is about that, with merch, I feel like you can't burn it out. You have to make it still cool and exclusive. And, like, when you make it too much, that's when, you know, I feel like it's just become, like, I don't know. It just feel like you're thirsty.

People can piss at me because I don't put out enough merch. Yeah, I just feel like you thirsty. I don't like it. I don't want to be a I don't want to feel thirsty I want you to come over and shake my hand Yeah

Yeah I just don't If you want it You'll get it It's online I don't want to push it I don't want to buy a t-shirt Come over Take a picture

Get the fuck out of it You know I don't want to be there I sell music Not close No I don't want to do Nothing My people People somebody

My wife went to lunch And the person told them My wife And so my wife Started giving me Luggage with shirts And I fucking

hated it I did it like four times and one day I just left the shirts. I'm not doing this no more. And then we got the shirts from taping. I left for boxes and boxes of t-shirts at the hotel. You want to buy a shirt, go online. I'm not carrying that shit with me.

I love you. I love you if you want to buy a shirt. But it's not my primary business. I want to focus on my comedy. I don't want to focus on shirts and sunglasses and fucking headshots. That's not what I got into it for, you know, for one thing. I just really like, like I say, I like the writing aspect of it more than anything. Like I, for me, like, that's one thing I love.

Like, that's what people don't understand. Like, with rapping, it's so easy, to be honest. Like, just like comedy or something, it's pretty much set up, set up punchline type shit. You feel me? So with me, I just pretty much just try my best to just like make the fucking most original shit I can possibly do. Because rap music has been around for fucking, it's still relatively, new but it's still

it's getting old at this point where it's still like I don't know it's weird and it's still always they say it's a young man's game but it's like old men still running you know it's like a weird facade like rap music is I can't really

put my no one would ever be able to put their finger on it and that's what make it so cool I'm gonna tell what else about rap music because any day it's like the American dream any day some kid can just make a video on YouTube and become the star of tomorrow. There's a lot of good rap music.

There's a lot of good rap music. There's a lot of good rap music. A lot of artistic guys. You're very artistic in your music. I like what you do, but there's a lot of bad rap music. Oh, Jesus Christ, there's a lot of bad comedy. There's a lot of bad films. I think it's about rap music I hate when people say, like,

people say like, it's bad rap music. It always been bad rap music. Which one you want me to move? that the, uh, Hennessy. Oh, my bad. I want this one.

But look, people say it's like it's bad rap music. It's always been bad rap music. I don't remember a time of my life where it wasn't bad rap music. Now,

it, it's always some good. There's always some bad. Is it like reality TV? Yeah, it's never been. When you go to county jail and that brother gives you that tape,

and he says, dog, this is the shit. Every year of a good rapper, every year you could tell me about a good rapper, I can tell you about the trash and shit that came out that year or two. It never was, it always was some trash shit that was cracking. And I like the new stuff.

Let me tell you something. But I'm saying, no, it's right. Rap music has always been what it is. It is what I'm saying. That's where I really feel like to myself, I'm just more like I love, I'm a fan of rap, but it's my environment that controlled that. It's from where I'm from. It's just my blood.

It's just what I was like gang banging. Like people we were talking about earlier with gangs, I was born into rap music. If I was born into a fucking rock music, I'd have been playing a guitar singing in a band. Now, who was the first rap that you heard that you said, this is it? I'm definitely fun. L.L. Cool, Jay. No shit.

Radio. No shit. First, I remember I was in kindergarten. Like I said, I did that rap in the class. So then one day I remember my uncle. I mean, I didn't need my uncle. He's my cousin uncle. You know how it is.

You know so many baby daddies and family type of shit. But my cousin, uncle, came in, he was babysitting me, he came and picked me up from school. And he was like, hurry up, nigger. I swear, this is like, hurry up, niggas. Hurry up, no, he said, nigger. He said, hurry up, nigga, that new LL. Cool J just came out. I ain't got time to be playing with you. We got hurry to fuck up.

I'm trying to hear this shit. And he dragged me the fuck, like ran, like in the rain, like ran all the way to fuck home. And once we got to the crib, we got in the basement. And then he whipped that fucking, he whipped it out. And it was that fucking album with that fucking radio on it on the cover. Pulled that vinyl out and put it on the plate. And that fucking first two beats dropped. And all I remember just was like, oh, yes, this is what I'm doing with the rest of my fucking life.

Facts. Like, ain't nothing else for me. Like, this is what it is. And who solidify that? What was the second album? Ever since then, that's what it was. The second album, like I said, say ever since then

I was just a it was on so I probably like bad shit before I realized what was good you get me because I still went through the phases of a kid like in like shit like kid and play like I was still a kid like an MC Hammer you know I still like the

I didn't know what was good rap music or bad rap music but the point is was that I had a young dad like my dad bought me Wu Taine's first album he just gave it to me I didn't know who the fuck Wu Tane was just bought Wu-Tang album and just gave it to me, like listen to this shit.

But you know, so it was to the point I was on a level like that with my dad, where he knew how I liked rap music, you know? You said earlier, like, you liked the writing a lot. Could you make a living just, like, writing lyrics for people? But that's the hard part. Do I want to write the songs that make that type of money that would support that type of lifestyle?

You give it what I'm saying? Because right now you've got to think with rap music, like we say, it's still, like you say, Like you say it sucks So we gotta make rap music good How can you make rap music good You know at this point Like people making shit like you say like the shit you like

Zeppelin and Sabbath rappers being like progressive and Experimental at this point You know motherfuckers are still doing them same drug And that shit you know what I'm saying And doing rap music and I feel like You know Like

It almost was at that point where It almost like some 70 shit but never really could just break the mold. You know what I'm saying? I'm still in the middle. I never saw Avatar. I never did either. I don't want to see Avatar.

And I'll tell you why I never saw Avatar. That's what I love you. $700 million. I never saw Avatar. Okay, so now the movie gets selected to be the movie of the year. Sweaterp and all this shit. And it pissed me off because, listen, if I gave a three-year-old, $700 million, they could give me back something that's not bad.

within a fucking year. Okay. My mentality is this. I like rap music. I don't like it overproduced. Okay. That's the same thing with me. That's why I like it minimal.

That's what I said. I like it minimally produced and I still want to feel like I'm there. I want to feel like I'm walking to get a nickel bag. Facts. If my heart's not beaten like I'm going to get a nickel bag.

If it doesn't scare you, it's not rap music. If it's some shit you can play around your fucking grandma. There's some shit you can, you know what I'm saying? Your mind. You're like, it's some shit. PC shit like no

I like the Beastie boys would I take them into battle with me not real I like the Beastie boys people get mad at me you don't play the Beastie I like the Beastie boys Paul Boutique is a class yeah that was fucking take them to the

they took sampling they're the one that yeah they're the one fucked up the sampling shit to be honest but back in the day with the equipment and shit that they were using to make rap music and with all the shit that they was doing like creatively and experimentally, like,

compared to what we do today, it's not even coming close. Like, they used to have, like, 12 samples on one record. Like, you go back and listen to those public enemy records with, like, bomb squad and shit. It's like, the shit is you can't even pay. You wouldn't even be able to fucking clear that type of shit. You wouldn't be able to even make those type of records to that.

They fucked it up. Not saying they fucked it up because they made amazing music doing what they did, but you couldn't even do that type of shit, right now. These have like 10 samples on one song. I would love to do shit like that, you know, with me, but it's expensive to make rap music the way I want to make it. And it's cheap to make rap music that's popular right now. And that's the best way I can explain me. Do you have to balance making songs that are, you think are going to be popular versus songs that you actually I just don't, I mean, I just don't, that's not my world, you know? I don't think about that way.

You don't think about it. Yeah, I just know. It's not my world. I'm happy with what I meant. Like I say, I came in this shit. Just thinking if I could get a fucking, if I could just be fresh and pay my rent and smoke good. I'm happy with that. And I'm not spending the night.

And I surpassed. And I way surpassed that. I got out of jail fucking 2007 with it. Like, I'm going to be a rapper dream. You feel what I'm saying? And it's 2017, 10 years later. And like, fuck, I've been here five years already. Like, it's already.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm already trying to explore other options. at this point. Well, it's Tony Bennett. Play that Tony Bennett cocksucker. I want to be around to pick up the pieces when somebody breaks your heart. Some somebody twice as smart. Tony Bennett.

How somebody who will swear to be true as you used to do with me Who leave you to learn That misery loves company Wait and see you want to be around he does it How much fun did you have in county jail? Shit I had a lot of them The only reason why I have fun

Because I think I don't know if you call it luck But I got lucky Lucky I got fucking lucky man And I got the best fucking job In the jail man And I worked

No I worked in the kitchen first To be out See but it all breaks down The rap music So when I got So break down What you said earlier Lee I was asking me

How did you feel When you first I didn't know that When I first got caught my case I caught a distribution In manufacturing case for weed How do you manufacture weed? I don't know what the case.

Know what it was was that our postings got a possession with and sent the distribute. But we had a gun. You know, when they raided us, we had a gun. So it was like we had dropped a gun case if you take a distribution with manufacturing. You know, lawyers, that's what we bargained. So that's what we took. We took the distribution case over the manufacturing case because that was going to get us to probation. I mean, I guess it was a, I don't know.

I took that, but I got probation for that. And you know me, I just violated a probation off-rips, like not even. I think I, no, I didn't try out for it. I just started smoking weed and started seven. Like, I still just, I just never act like it ever happened. But I still went, like, I ran away for like five years before I even got caught. I was flying going to other states. I remember I got caught in the airport one time.

Me and my homie trying to go to Miami just to, like, fuck with around with some bitches and shit and just, like, turn up. And I had, like, 8,000 on me. And my homie had like, maybe like, he probably, like, more he had, like, probably 20,000 on him just in cash, and chilling. But you know you can't have more than 5,000 in airport. What? I thought it was 10. Yeah, 10.

10. What are you? Well, probably now, but I don't know. But whatever, I had that warrant, though. What about the DEA grabbed us up? Just Detroit Airport. The DEA grabbed us up just because we had too much money on this, they said. And he took us, whatever, took.

us in the room, searched this. We ain't had shit. You know, they never found them, but they had that money. But then they ran my name and they had that warrant. And they asked me, they said, so we can just take this money or we can take you to jail. What's your choice? Oh, my God.

We was about to go to Miami. It's my birthday. It's my birthday weekend. We're in Miami. They shook down, homie for his 22. Yes. Oh, that's cold blood. Cold. They took it. Yeah. They got me in my, they got me in Detroit, too, coming back from Miami. See, in the borderline is like real, like, sketchy.

Detroit's fucking crazy. I was coming from the improv to go to Montreal. See, it's just Canada in general, though. Every time I go to Canada, they fucking shake me. My plan was to land in Detroit airport, go to a hotel in Detroit, chill for a few days, and then try to sneak into Canada. Somebody in Detroit said there could help me go through the bridge. Yeah, fuck no, fuck that shit.

This is way before 9-11. Oh, I don't know of that shit. See, before 9-11, I used to sneak into Canada through Buffalo because my friend's dad had a gambling pass. So they would just wave this motherfucker in. And then he would drop me off at the bus station in that place. And I would take a bus to Toronto. I thought I could do that through winter.

No. That's where I was going to go. So I go to fucking Detroit. I'm at this hotel. And the second night, I went out in Detroit. I took a cab to Greektown. Yeah, Greek town. And I started walking around there.

I went into a bar, and somebody sold me a grandma book. You still found blood. I still found out of my first name in Detroit. In Greentown. I went back to look for Coco's. Cocoa House Comedy? And Coco's was closed. So guess what?

My hotel was four blocks from Coco's. I went right to the hood. You know? don't mean, though, is it? $44 a night and you get two free towels and dirty movies. Two free towels? What one is that? What street is this? You don't remember?

Hell. Hell Street. What's the name of it? Hell Street. It's all hell. The street. People are yelling and screaming next to year. People getting stabbed. But you don't give a fuck. So, again, they say... It's lawless. It's so fucking laws. It was lawless. They kept saying...

There's no police. It's no... They don't give a fuck. You can do whatever the fuck you want. You can literally... Like, I have literally. seeing people get killed. Like, I, bro. You got to remember this. You still live there with your mom. I mean.

This has to be. This has to be 19 years ago. I think about it all the time, Lee. I think about it all the time. Sometimes I think about it like I might have fucked up. Right.

So I think about it. So listen to this. I'm in, I'm waiting for the call. Might have fucked up. Because I had the chance to leave, but I didn't. I'm waiting for the car. I'm waiting for the call to go to Windsor. I'm going to get smuggled.

to Windsor. All right. No, you're not. Yes, I am. They are so hot. Yes, I am. Listen to me. What happened?

This is 1998. Okay, 90. Oh, no, it still was hot. How did they sneak you in? I have no idea. It was hot back to the steel. And next thing you know, the people come, they meet me. And they said to me, listen, man, it's going to be really hard to get you.

I told you. I said, God damn. I am in Detroit. Canada. I hug these, listen to me, dog. I hug these motherfuckers. Hug them. I said, thank you, we'll figure it out.

As I'm walking the streets of Detroit, it's 4 o'clock, I hear a horn beep. I turn around and this is a lesbian dude, named Mimi Gonzalez. A lesbian, dude. A lesbian chick. Nemey Gonzalez and shit. Mimi Gonzalez.

She was in town of do comedy, and she didn't have a hotel. And I said, so come stay with me because she was living in her van at the time. This is fucking crazy. Mimi Gonzalez just saw, just saw you roaming the streets of Detroit. I met Mimi out here.

Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying. Mani Gonzalez is a Cuban Jewish lesbian. Of course. And she lived in Hollywood. So you saw a random she saw me? I don't know. Listen, when you're in Detroit, you don't look up. You look that.

And you keep walking straight ahead. I don't know nothing. You look straight. I hear horns beeping. I don't know nothing. You look straight. I don't give a fuck if you're laying there and fucking waiting. You keep fucking You're walking. It's 1990.

You act like shit ain't wrong, but fuck. What is it? I don't stop from nobody. Fuck, that is Detroit. She kept yelling, Joey, Joey, Joey. See, the only thing, like, that's like, you have to grow up and just know that. Like, you have to be instilled with certain, like, it's like common sense and it's like street. Street common sense.

You know, ideally, with the city. Detroit is a place where if you don't have street common sense, you would get. Don't eat up. Don't listen. They'll take this fucking dude they hate. They'll take this dude they will. Brow him into the street. Hit him with a car.

He goes down. They'll look and go, go, Lee, help him. And you come over, he'll bang you. And I'll pickpock to you. And there you were trying to be the Good Samaritan. No, no, mind your business. The Good Samaritan always be fucked over. Keep walking.

Wherever you were going, keep walking. I'm going to cancel my trip to Detroit. That dude on the street is a pigeon. No. This ain't just Detroit. This is every city. This is anywhere. They run a game everywhere.

Anywhere with this tourism, look, the cops even are coming on weekend. There's no tourism in Detroit. Well, they used to be. No, never. Not to me. No, no, not to you. I've been from that, like, I mean, I guess there's some, like I say, I remember being a kid and always hearing about Coco's House of Comedy on the radio and always like.

And before that, it was something else. There was two of them, but the main one was all things something. So Detroit is always like any place I feel like with that much depressing. always want some fucking light of sunshine. So always was a comedy scene in Detroit. Tons of comedy. Tons. From Royal Oak to Traverse City. One of my homies, like, he was like a comic from Detroit.

Like he moved out here, now he's starting to do good. Now he's cracking. Yeah. When I first got here, there was four brothers from Detroit that were tearing it up up here. They got a deal from Cosby's company. They got a deal from Puffy's company. They called themselves something.

but then one of them got into a car accident. Thomas Ward is still around. They were funny motherfuckers. In fact, they lived up here. They lived down the corner 20 years ago. Any place that I feel like that, is that the present to be at, you always be able to create some type of way to make,

like I say, a red sunshine. You know what I'm saying? Like, even with me with rap music, that was my getaway. That was the way I escaped being where I was at. me going in my basement and just write in a song and recording it and like I say I sing it to myself and I thought it was dope and like and then I make it and then other people was like oh shit it's tight you know before I know like even with me with the internet shit that shit

happened when I went to jail I didn't know about putting my music on the internet and nothing like that like to me I just thought internet was fucking going on chat rooms and jerking off on poor to some weird shit. I don't know, you know, I didn't know what the internet really was like that, you know? But when I was in jail, my brother started putting my songs on like random websites and shit.

And then when I got out of jail, I kind of had like, I missed that whole MySpace era. When I got out out of jail, it was like Twitter was just starting where I caught on a Twitter early. You know? As a luck, you know? And then I just started being on Twitter and

just started just promoting. my cell phone Twitter, like early. Like, maybe it's like 2000. When that was Twitter started, I feel like like it was really like when it first started type shit. I remember it was on the sidekick. I had the sidekick. That's when I was on. I was never cool enough to have the sidekick.

You know what I'm saying? Like, when you really had to type a whole person name, you had to hit the you know what I'm saying? Like, it wasn't even DMs. I'm talking about when you had to really say what you wanted to say on the shit. I was on Twitter like really like crack it when it wasn't even DMs. Like, and that's what I feel like my

music took a turn. That's when shit changed. Because before then it was like me just being in Detroit, like going to open mics where I wasn't really accepted for the type of shit that I wanted to do with my music. And then it was like when I went up to New York or if I went to LA, because I was coming out here too. You know what I'm saying? Trying to do music and stuff. I never would fit into what was popular or what was considered to be, I don't know, like to be, I don't know. I was just doing what I liked, you know, and it never would, like, I click with people in some type of way. But once, like, I guess, like, 2011, like, when Triple X came out, it just, it clicked, you know, it just was a time when it clicked, because I was knocking on that door forever, you know.

I was 30 years old when my fucking, when people started acknowledging me as a rapper, like, nothing worse to me, like, I feel like, telling a person you're a rapper. Like that's like the worst shit ever to tell a person you're a rapper Because you don't never pose to have to tell a person you're a fucking rapper You feel they're supposed to know If you have to tell a person you're a rapper then guess what? You're not a fucking rapper and it's just embarrassing To even have to go through that you know

Now you said that your brother was putting the tapes on for you online Yeah when I was in jail where were you taping this? No I was just random no I was going to in New York, what happened was, okay, had a group called Reservoir Dogs, which is my cousin, another homie Chips, and Dovehead. We had a group called Reservoir Dogs.

We made an album, we put it out. And it was kind of, it was decent, but it wasn't, you know, it wasn't nothing that was going to change your life. You feel me? So, but what we did, we had money involved in us. Whole other world or other shit.

We had motherfuckers involved with us that was like doing bank. scam shit like scamming the checks and shit so like them trying to make this was the days of like like master pee and like cash money and all that shit came out so anybody with money thought they could just start a record label and one day they could become a fucking millionaire so i had a homie that was like doing bank scam shit like the type of shit where you just that type of shit motherfucker's doing that like you got a bank account they just take a random check and deposit 10 000 in your account it clear they give you 2000 and take this you know I'm saying take the eight and then

whoever find it they split they give them 2000 then they take in the six and he used to have like three people a date like he was just making like so he just invested in the record like one day with me rapping because I was just broke as fuck smoking weed in my fucking basement recording songs on a fucking four track and then he just made it um he made an album with me like put the money into it where I can get in the studio pay for And we made an album as a group, but it just and then we paid for songs to get on the radio like literally pay for DJs to play our songs on the radio and shit like that and like how much would cost a lot of fucking money like we got a nigga fire We got a nigga fire for the radio station. I swear to God like so much we paid this nigga like like Like 5,000 to pay his own on radio but the nigga played it like to the point where it got kind of like popular and shit so we was like doing like local

And it was like popular, but... So what happened was he tried to take the music, you know, like a number of the company do. So he went to like death jam or record labels with the music and shit. And A&R at Rockefeller really liked the shit. Like he really wanted to fuck with it. Like, I'm trying to get it cracking. But once they did the deal, I mean, did the meeting for it when they went into the shit. I don't know.

I wasn't there. I'm no artist. I don't know what the fuck was said. To me, when they came back and it was like, the shit didn't happen. It was a fit. Like, all I knew was motherfuckers went to New York and motherfuckers met with motherfuckers. And they said they were trying to do a deal. And then the next thing I know the deal didn't happen.

But what ended up coming out was that the motherfucker that went in there that put the money into it, went in there, you know, talking crazy, talking, you know, just extra and trying to get, you know, just talking, you know. So that didn't happen. But some type of way, I still got the ANR connect from one of my friends that was there with one of the guys. and I just contacted him and told him who I was like I'm Danny Brown from the group Reservoir Dogs I had this, you know

and he's like, oh yeah, I remember that shit I fuck with that shit you can come out here you know, I check and I was making my own solo shit at the time already so I had a mixtape already that I made

and I just came out there with that mixtape and then he took me to a studio in Queens and I just started recording at that studio and I made like three mixtapes there Like I'm talking about years. We're talking about years of work now.

Like I would go to like fucking New York like have like I was broke as fuck. Like I was living sleeping on couches. I'm down at home as at this point. I'm bouncing from like moms to grandmonds to like aunts. Sleeping where I could sleep. Smoking whoever weed I can smoke, you know, bumming cigarettes. Like that type of shit. Saying I'm going to be a rapper.

No, just trying to figure it out. Thank God I'm into jail to be honest. Because I think going to jail made me a rapper. Because before the end, this is before jail. This is when I had the warrants and I couldn't, you know, I already worked it and I already violated the probation. So now I'm just trying to be a rapper. But I know any given moment, police could fucking type my name and it's a rap.

You feel what I'm saying? And I'm flying. That's why I was catching the Greyhound in New York. So I go to, I go to fucking New York with fucking $300 sleep on the fucking studio floor. Because he gave me that, the ANR at Rockefeller, didn't even have that much pull to even get me signed nowhere and do anything. but he was just, I was able to come out there and he would, you know, show me love. I'd be able to sleep at his crib and fucking, you know, go to the studio, record music.

I would just try to record the music I can make. And like I say, eventually I had enough songs that when I went to jail, my brother just made mixtapes out of them. I didn't want to think about doing none of that type of shit. I was thinking about getting a fucking record deal, because that's what I knew to be a rapper. So when I came back home out of jail, I kind of had like a name a little bit. Like, on my face, like, had, like, fans.

Like, he had people writing me in jail and shit. Denny Brown and all this shit. And I'm like, oh, shit, you know? Like, maybe it is something, you know. And then once I got out of jail, I was like, oh, shit. But I went right back to hustling, though, when I got out of jail, though. I still had the fucking, because I was still kind of like homeless, though. That's the worst part.

Like, you want to get out of jail. Like, I felt like that was the worst day to me, to be honest. Like you say, like, how much fun you had in jail? And I was like, I had a lot of fucking fun. But I remember the first day being out of jail and being like, what the fuck now? You know what I'm saying? You missed that salami sandwich. I mean, I just knew in jail.

I mean. A baloney sandwich of American cheese. I wanted to be out of, no, I didn't miss none of that shit. I don't want to know of that shit. I ain't got to see that. I don't know. But I'm just saying I remember being like, I mean, I guess you institutionalized in that point. Or I don't know.

I remember coming back and they're like, what the fuck I'm gonna do? And I didn't have a, so I had to go back to hustling. I remember I hooked back up with my homies and now they were selling weed. But they was getting the pounds from Arizona. And the only job I could get then was like just lowering the trucks up with the pounds of weed. Because flying in Mexico, I mean, not Mexico, but flying to Arizona and these motherfuckers, Mexico niggas don't even speak English. None that they're stealing money.

like the most sketchy shit I would have been a part of and I just remember like I mean we were still like I would have to like fly out to like Arizona like load trucks up you know load the trucks up that's what I get paid for

put the weed on the trucks that's all I was getting paid for but like 3,000 pounds shit like that I would pay like I would break like $2,500 to run

so it was like maybe doing like maybe one in a month you know and you're good it keeps your dream a lot but I was trying to be a rapper at that time yeah that's what you're doing you're financing your dream and but every time I was doing it I felt like fuck I'm going to jail I'm gonna go back to jail like I was really scared like before like you leave

like that said back in the day and I was selling cracking apartments and shit I wasn't scared I wasn't worried about nothing but once I got to that like that shit like putting 3,000 pounds on fucking trailer tractor and fucking going to Miami with $50,000 drip of ice on that ain't yours because they just want you

to look good because they with you and you and this you know what I'm saying like I'm going back to jail. This is what I told myself in jail I'm not going to do and then once I got back out I was right back in it. You know so I was trying to be a rapper and what we hated as drug

dealers was rappers. What do you hate more than anything? Like when we went to like the strip clubs or like like niggas like had money like like real money like we go to Atlanta we go to fucking like you got real money like and you got

these rappers that don't even got money like you got but the bitches is all on the rappers all the strippers all on rappers if the rappers got a hit yeah I mean period if the rapers got a hit I know the rap it was like that rap but even with me like that wasn't the drive of it

but I remember like all my drug dealing that life of being a drug dealing like being around the drug dealing friends, they hated rappers more than anything. So me just popping up saying I wanted to be a rapper was like, no one fucked with me after that. Like, they just cut me off, like, literally, like, cut me off. Like, stop, fuck with me.

Like, you rap? Like, I don't fuck with it. And I was rapping my whole life before I meant them. They just didn't know it. I bump into one rapper every week. Hold this, I got to go to the bathroom. But I bump into not, Danny Brown rap.

You know what I'm saying? But somewhere along the line, if I go to an audition, I go to a meeting, there's always one dude in there with some fucking outfit on. Looking like a fucking clown. He's a rap.

It's embarrassing, man. I hate it. Like, what the fuck? I'm planning on it. Lee, man. What's up, Danny? Time is how much time we're gonna look. I don't know.

We got a few minutes left. Fuck. What was gonna ask? What would you say? Because I told the, people were super excited you were coming on. And someone said like, oh. It's so funny that people are like, know that I fuck with this shit. So I know, like.

Yeah, how did that happen? Like, how did you? Because I watched Hot Ones and I saw it there. No. But the first time I saw it was on Twitter. Yeah, of course. this is how I fuck because you know I like video games

a lot, Lee you know I'm a gamer like I play video games a lot you like video games leave I do but I'm not good at them so I quit either yeah I didn't it's kind of like that with me

yeah that's probably why I was you know but whatever but yeah I don't I don't finish a lot of games I'm either but I buy them all I try them out and see them but I don't finish a lot of them

but what how it literally how it happened with video games just being on a row buying video games and I bought UFC. Oh, that's a hard game, too. So I started playing UFC.

And from me started playing UFC, I started like in Joe Rogan. Just from the video game version of Joe Rogan? I'm talking. This is years ago, though. This is years in the process of this making. Oh, okay. So then I started watching Joe Rogan.

See, one day I see this guy. Joe Rogan. So now I become a fan of this guy. This is all come from, you know what I'm saying? From video, this is where it came from. That's crap. What, what? You have UFC too.

I wasn't even a fan of UFC when I bought the video game. It just was a cool game. Yeah, I just was on the, I was on a tour. I was on the road. I just bought every video. I was just, you know, you're on the bus. You play video games. You buy DVDs.

You watch movies, you know. So I was just one day on the road. It was like, fuck it. I'm about, oh, fuck it. UFC, a fighting game. I've never been on the road. Play UFC. I didn't even know of UFC fighter name at the time.

Now I'm so engulfing fucking UFC is like runs my fucking world. Like, my fucking, like, fucking, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can't even explain it. Like, it changed my life in some sense. Like, being, like, even learning about, like, because even the point of, like, I say, like, it went from fucking just me buying that video game on the road.

And then hearing Joe Rogan on the fucking video game, being like, oh, Joe Rogan is dope. And just liking Joe Rogan to start watching real UFC fights for me, like, in a video game, just to want to learn about the fighters that I was fighting with on the fucking game. So now I'm watching real UFC. So now I learn about Joe Rogan.

I like Joe Rogan. So now I watch Joe Rogan podcast. Now I'm fucking learn about you. You know what I'm saying? Now it just trickles down the fact. So now I just watch now I'm part of the church. You feel that I'm saying? We love it.

Now I'm here smoking dope on the church. You feel what I'm saying? And it started from a WFC video game on tour. Do you feel what I'm saying? But that's the way life happened. Do you feel what I'm saying? If you don't look at the little. signs and shit and just realize it and just respect it what it was you feel what I'm saying

when I was washing my hands I was thinking I want to ask you something because this is how I felt you know I fucked around for years got locked up did my time and when I walked out of that prison I felt like all my sins were absolved you know what I'm saying yeah be too though like that's how I felt that's why I never went back so I feel like that's the most like to me the most like I'm I'm I I'd rather die than go back to jail, bro. Right? That's the most scariest shit to me is to go back to jail. It wasn't that it was scary.

I just don't, I just don't ever want to go through that. I don't want to go through that ever. You know what you belong to? I think at this point in my life, like, I'd rather die in brother. I just knew I didn't know. And like I say, I had fun. It was great. It was really great.

And you weren't county. What county? Wayne County, it was so, bro. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Like with me. I had the I had the best job which is the worst job and the best job in Wayne County Jail is fucking registry

so I work registry and that's when you get registered in so the motherfucker that work registry is the motherfucker that really control the whole county because when you come in guess what you got your cigarettes on you you may have a bag of weed in your ass you might have whatever that all happens in registry once you get changed out of your real clothes and get putting your greens and go to your flow whatever I'm the only nigga down there that works that fucking motherfucker.

Like, I'm the nigga get your cheese sandwich when you work in the shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm the only fucking male inmate that even interacts with female inmates. I had so many fucking female bitches writing me. I ain't even had people out of the outside writing me. I would just take the fucking courtslips and find a bitch and then see her and know her name and then just take the fucking. her number,

just to write the bitch off rip. I'm the nigger work at Registry. I see you going to court. I be giving you your sandwiches. I hope your case going away. No way. And before we know it, now we're jerking off to each other letters,

but what the rest of our bit. You feel what I'm saying? Do you ever hear of... I had more bitches in jail. In that jail writing me, I swear no one was writing me on the outside of them. Like, it was over for that eight months. I didn't even want to love.

letter from me. I ain't even want to visit. I had it crack it. Once I got the registry and it happened for me being a fucking rapper, like rapping. Because at first, you know, you get the fucking kitchen job. And I was working in fucking, like, the fucking dishes. And that shit, they called

that shit Waterworld. I was in Waterworld working that shit. Muffer gets splashed up, washing dishes and shit, fucking up. And then it was these two motherfuckers on my pod. They ran my shit, too. It was a big ass nigga. This nigga was like fucking six fucking, I don't know,

it looked like a fucking, fucking Travis Brown or something. You know what I'm saying? That's the nigga who ran my flow. You know what I'm saying? He wanted to be a rapper, but he was trash. I swear, every birthday, like,

he was just so trash. He wasn't listening to this. You don't want to say. I mean, whatever. No, he's not. He's probably in jail right now. But he was so trash, and they used to rap every night.

Like, just all night. Like, I would, like, when they lock us down, we'd be close to go to sleep. They hear these niggas sales away just rap and they sales and it's like the whack

it's like it's just so trashed. All night. All night. I told birthright. And I'm not even, and I'm not even, I didn't even tell niggas I could rap.

I didn't even tell them about it to wrap. No, no, no, no. But they're getting on my nerves so much. Like it's killing me. Like it's irking me. Like it's making my skin crawl. Every night.

I can't even sleep right hearing these motherfuckers try to rap every night. So one day I just get fucking pit. off and just go in their fucking room and just unloads a clip and just give them like two verses just give them bars like and show them really how to do it like just rap for them and just and they were so fucked up but they felt deceived too that they wouldn't run around me for months and they've been rapping in front of me and doing all this and then I just all of a sudden just come out the blue and do this in front of them so but they respect that me so much and they knew my case and they knew whoa you know because I wouldn't know on there on over. I wasn't trying to be a rapper. So once they saw that, like I say,

he ran our flow. The nigga was like six foot eight, like diesel as fuck. He told you to turn the TV off, motherfuckers turned the TV off. You feel what I'm saying? He ran our floor, and he was the one that worked registry. So once he left registry, he gave me his job because he felt that I was

going to become a rapper one day and maybe I would help him. I don't know. Something, but I was so good at rap to him that he always would invite me to his fucking sale and be like, help me rap. Help me write some bars or figure out some shit. Show me how to do this.

You know? Just, and when he left, he gave me his job. So I had registered. All your boys going through changes. No, but I'm like, well, like, what if he? He's going through changes. See, look, I feel like, I'm good. Like, I ate the star.

I was straight. One other one? I feel like I really accepted it. I thought I was really scared of it. I accepted it. You went into it with a clear mind. Yeah, see. I respected it.

I went into it. See, if you don't go into shit with respect, that's when you get fucked up. There you go, me. You see? It's that easy. I respected this. I went about to go in there and try to eat.

I talked to my niece. I went about to eat fucking six stars. Soon as I come in here, fuck with y'all, niggas. Come on, man. Anybody do me like that. My niece called me tonight. But one star, wasn't bad.

Is Danny Barry really going to be on the show? Yeah, Daner was going to be on the show. I had another niece called me. She's like, listen, I got to talk to you about something. And we start talking about one of the dates I have. Excuse me. And she goes, can I ask you a question? I go, why?

She goes, are you trying to kill Lee? Thank you. And I'm like, no. She's in training right now. She's telling me, she goes, the most fucked. And, like, this is the niece. I can't really understand. I can't see it.

This is the niece that I grew up with her uncle. and her mother. So she knows all the motherfucking stories. When she was a baby, they used to hide the coke under her crib. Oh, let. So she'd be in the crib, and this was her mattress, it would be in here. Right, yeah.

So everybody knew that if you picked up the mattress, you'd wake her up. Fuck that. You don't know how many times I went in there five in the morning and creeped up that mattress just a little bit. Oh, shit. And got my little Cuban fingers in that motherfucker and took that bag yelling.

You know me, dog. I don't give a fuck. But she goes, it's weird how you're tolerance. She goes, I see you eating. I see you smoking. I see you eating those stars. And it's because I go into it like it's a situation. I remember when, if I were to eat five stars,

I'd be high for fucking 12 hours, couldn't stop talking, couldn't stop eating, paranoid. And now, I look at it just as a day in the office. Oh, my God. So how I go into it is how I walk out of it. Sure. That's not how it works. Yes, that's not how it works.

It does. Yes, it does. I mean, you know more than us. Yes, it does. That's what I'm going to run with it. But say, yeah. No, because here's the thing. Because you might be right.

I came like you said. If I didn't respect the star. No, I'm fucked up. I'm fucked up. But after the, after the week of sugar cubes. The edible is Yeah, the sugar cube week You still got sugar cubes

You still got sugar cubes You have a whole box right So like We got paper acid too We got loose Oh After the week After the week of sugar cube

Like the edible is just On as hard anymore And these lights right here Oh my god Yeah that's a Thank you You know When you're doing acid

This right here But But the tolerance thing Every time I did acid And roll my segway For like two hours And you did what? Roll my segue

for two hours around my neighbor. The wind felt so good. I thought I was an angel flying with wings of my back for a moment. I just know

what if my neighbor saw me? Like, what the fuck is Danny Brown doing? You hit's riding around the corner. Oh,

he holding his arms on like he's on the end of the Titanic shit. That's why I can't be doing like a lucidgenic drugs and then I do mad goofy shit. That shit fucked me up for two weeks.

I just do goofy shit. That embarrassed myself for the people. Listen, I went in that bathroom just now. As soon as I turned on the light, I got a flashback to that night I did the acid. That fucked me up. Oh, when you did, when you cut that light on. The night that me and him got high. Now, Monday night, I was straight.

I got a little high in here on the acid. I went home and went to bed. The second night with Ralphie Mae, there was a point in here. I couldn't fucking talk towards the end. And I got up to go to the bathroom, and my face. face was pale, the light in there was green. I went in there to pee. I forgot what I went in there for.

I washed my hands. Then I peed. It was fucked up. I came out here. I'm like, I'm fucked. That's what I'm saying, USA again? You know what? Within 10 or 15 minutes of acknowledging that,

I smoked a little refit. I went home and made a fucking salami sandwich. Ooh, I got a corned beef from grandbrass right now. Wait, no. And within 10 minutes, I knew I was a doctor for fucking... It's the mental aspect. I called Lee. Grab it to take us in.

Lee was up all fucking night. He wanted to walk around. If Lee would have gone home and made a tuna fist sandwich and sat down and watched TV, but then probably... Even good. I can't watch TV on acid. Well, yes, you can.

I can't. I don't like it. It's the because they're too bright in the face. You know what the craziest thing I ever happened to me, Danny Brown? I'm writing about it right now. Like, this is what I'm writing about. like this like right after my mother died like they buried her on a Monday but my mother's best friend said listen I'm gonna stay at the house so you could you're when you decide what you want to do you let me know

and you could I'll leave and I go listen I think I'm gonna move with the benders on Thanksgiving day but once you stay for two weeks and help me with the transition so for the first week I was cool you know we're all cool for the first week. We come home when we were supposed to come home, but the second week, I started eating that acid again. And she's living in my mom's bedroom, and I'm living

in my bedroom, and I got my TV with the cable. I did acid one night, and I came home when the blob was on. The one with Steve was in. Jesus. Oh, my God. Lee, I was 16 years old.

That shit, fucking me. You got on acid, too. That shit. Imagine a motherfucker being. When that thing was coming under the door and shit, I started looking under the door, I started looking under the door. But there's one scene in that movie.

Why would you watch that over acid? Oh, my God. Because the tool was out and there was 90 channels. So threw the TV off. And do what? Sit there in the dark and a head of asses. It's better than the blob. No, it's not.

No, it's not. You'd rather take the blob at Steve McQueen. There was a little bit of comedy. I giggled a little bit. Then I started getting paranoid. It didn't help. that I had the lights off. I had to turn the fucking lights on.

Once you turn the lights on, everything's all right. Everything is all right. That's something where I'm not. I still got some acid in my house that I lost because I was just so geeked about it when I was out of the acid. That I was having such a good time. I'm like, I got to hide this shit. And I don't even know where I hit it. I look for it all the time, but I don't even know where the fucking acid is at, man.

I feel ashamed that I did it. It's in the house. I got some acid in my, I don't know where it's at, though I hit it. Like the first night I did it. I felt okay, but the second night I started thinking about like, I'm a 54-year-old dad. That's the thing. And I'm doing acid.

What the fuck is wrong with me? I should be ashamed of myself. I should be shot, fucking hung and thrown under the prison for doing a head of acid. What type of dad am I? So now I'm on the fence about it. I got a tube there. When I see Lee slipping, we'll do some more sugar cubes just to make them. And just, you know, there's no guidelines for that.

It's not like I could adhere to any more strict and on something. That's why we look up like me, like, being like 36 and looking at you like I want to be like you when I'm 50. On 54. Yeah. Alive and kicking. And having fun doing ass. You know what I'm saying?

Like I aspire to be like you, you know what I'm saying? More so than to be some like fucking just bored and just fucked with life and just stuck in some shit that I want to be involved in. Like you lived your life the way you wanted to live and now you, you know what I'm saying? You still doing that. some sense and there's some people that stuck in shit because they just like jobs they don't even want to work like we're saying that to me the american dream is to fucking be able to make money off or doing something you love we have people that's fucking working jobs making a lot of money and probably don't even care about it and i don't even hate doing their fucking job you got people

married to motherfucking people in relationships they don't fucking want to be in they don't be around that shit, you know what I'm saying? And they stuck in that shit. But I feel like you as, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I found when I first heard you. I'm like, this is how I'm fucking growing a beat. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm doing the fuck I want to do with my art.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you with your comedy and me with my rap, I feel like it's the same kind of way. Same animal, brother. I didn't sacrifice it for, and maybe me, like, being so fucked up all the time. I'll talk about all the time. Like, that might be the reason that I didn't. I mean, I'm not fucking like the fucking biggest rapper

in the world or whatever the fuck. Like, you know what I'm saying? I could still go out. You didn't want to be. If you wanted to be, you could be, but you didn't want to be. I still look at it. You just want to do something with your life.

I still kind of look at it like selling drugs stuff. Like, long as I could be able to make money off it and like it. Like Detroit's still dangerous. I want never to be able to still live there and pray do what I do if I didn't keep it as low key as I keep it. Like it's rappers, it's local rappers that's probably get more trouble or more like acknowledgement than I get and I'm fucking, you know what I'm saying?

But I like it like that, like you said. So I wanted it like to kind of to be honest, but I still like I want I got what I want out of it. I feel like in his I don't know like with far as rap music, it's like I don't know if I like. It's so much, it's only something where I can go with it. You feel me? Before I can feel like, like the next level for me is the only thing I feel like it's like running a record label. Like me just now like going into like finding those kids that was like me from Detroit

that probably a major label wouldn't like them being experimental just because, you know, like you say, it's bad. Rap music is not, it doesn't have a good number. name. I don't care. Like, I'm a prison that's in it. You feel what I'm saying? Like, when you had the trenches of it, when you're in the trenches or some shit, you can really talk about it. You feel what I'm saying?

No, no, no. We're talking about... It's not a good name. And that guy in the prison. It doesn't have a good name. You feel what I'm saying? I love rap music. But there's a lot of... It's not respected. It's not like respect. I know who's faking the funk. You can hear it. There's something

about it that you know when they're faking the funk. Oh, no. I was going to ask about that. I have no idea how many of these rappers who were saying, like, like, they're doing what you just did, like sell drugs or whatever. Like, are they actually doing it? Most of them, probably not. I mean, it's just like anything else.

It's all entertainment. Anything for entertainment purposes. So anybody that, even if I did sell some drugs, I probably would exaggerate it more just to make it more entertainment. I'm doing. Yeah. He sold. He was a. You know what I'm saying?

Like so. I had three dudes working with me. Let me give some shout-offs real quick. Maverick Matthews, I love you. Edsky Ugaldi. Stay Black. My man Leon over there in Germany. Amy, thank you for the birthday wishes.

Tiger Armstrong, D. Alexander, Tripp Berg, Bergi, my main Armenian over there. Always, we talked yesterday. Jimster, Daniel Riley, and Nick Nightingale. You know, Nightingdale. You know, I love you, cock-suckers. Don't forget, I'll be over at the Minneapolis House of Comedy,

Thursday night, bitches, Friday and Saturday. Don't fuck around. Bring the reefer. Bring the pills that killed Prince. Whatever you got. A wheelchair, roller skates. I don't give a fuck, Jack.

I love Prince, man. I love Prince, too. Papa Rain was like, like, I remember. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's feel like my, my childhood I had remember coming home from school like my mom was like watching purple rain my whole house like smell like weed but like you say it was still different shit involved like when I was coming home I was coming home to a

fucking clean house though sparkling spick and spank and spain in a fucking cooked meal you smell it too over the weed like nowadays like fucking kids like they're my fucking feed the McDonald's shit like it's not even like I don't know like you said like it was a different type of parent Even though my mom was young, I still got that old school parenting because it was that, I don't know if it was that generation or that, because maybe my grandmas raised me more so than my mom's when I think about it now, you know, because she's been so young, she couldn't really take care of me. Because I really went to my Filipino grandma because, you know, me, I was the first. I was the oldest child. I was your Filipino grandma.

Would you think of Filipino grandma? I was shit. Crazy than a motherfucker. She loved you. I mean, it was just, she spoiled me a little. It was spoiled, but it was like spoiled crazy. So I had to deal with being spoiled to deal with crazy. So, like, I could get those jortons and I could get all that shit that I wanted

that my mom probably couldn't afford it. My grandma could get for me. But if she came home and, like, the house wasn't clean or, like, little, like, weird shit like that, she would, like, freak the fuck out. Like, just, like, be, like, trip on me. Like, it was like weird. Like, I couldn't do shit. I couldn't bring girls over.

Couldn't like, it was just like extra strict. Like, extra, extra strict. My Filipino grandma was like. Catholic. But would give me Pentecostal. Which is extra. Like, went to like. Filipino Pentecostal.

I went to fucking church every Sunday. Church is like when I really realized I was like, really wasn't like a good kid. Like, I was like. fingering bitches. In church. Yeah. Fighting motherfuckers. I was like, that's what I really like did.

All my, because I was like, I used to go to church with her every Sunday. Like, I live with her. Like my brother, like my mom's, you know. So I live like, but I live with my grandma and shit. Because I wanted to be the only child, I guess, though. Because I was the first one. I don't know.

I guess that's how it is when you were like the oldest one. I don't know. Like kind of like jealous. I don't know. But so. Me going with my grandma. I was like me being on each. I had my own bedroom.

I didn't have to do this shit. You didn't have to do no sense. So I wanted to live my grandma. I wanted to do that. But she was like way more strict than my black parents, like the black shit. So once I got older, I was like, fuck, Filipino shit.

I want to go just nigger shit. What is Filipino music like? I don't know. I mean, that's what I said. I never been to the Philippines. All the only thing I know is my grandma. I don't know. Well, yeah.

The only other Filipinos I met was at the church, going to church with my grandma. you know other than that it's not like a real big Filipino community in like Michigan I don't think but I don't know but that's the only Filipinos I met was like going to church but far as that like the lifestyle like she still lives like she

fucking in Manila she don't know fucking she met some other fucking that was came from Detroit like I never met my fucking granddad I don't know what like I feel like I got his blood all the way like I don't even know who he was but I probably feel like that's who I am probably that you know what I'm saying like they say he was

tall as fuck he just was like a sad but the thing was he made he went he was in a peace court you know what I'm saying during the Vietnam shit and whatever the fuck my grandma was a school teacher in Manila he met her brought her back to Detroit but then when he brought her back to Detroit he ended up being a savage beating the shit out of her you know what I'm saying like just wilding he died of alcohol poisoning but I don't really believe he died of alcohol poisoning with a Filipino grandma

that kills them you know they buried that motherfuck in the yard I'm not saying I'm just saying now

and I'm like 36 35 or whatever you know I don't really like you know I don't know

people who die alcohol poise I don't even know motherfuck that overdose up coke right now

you know what I'm saying like you can't even overdose up coke right now that shit is like so bad right now

I don't even know like who even will want to do coke right now. Let me ask you that you still tour a lot. I just came off a fucking four-month tour. Where did you go? I went everywhere, the United States and Europe.

No shit. Who else is on the bill? Me and another artist signed to my label, Zalupers. So just me and him. And when do you go back again now? I'm not trying to go. No time soon, I guess, whenever something else work out. It happened.

But I guess that's the most, like I don't, like you said, I don't, I don't make money off music. I make money off shows, you know what I'm so? About 10. I mean, I play festivals, you know? Let's say maybe 10, 15 years ago. I'm just giving you numbers. I lived down in Hollywood. And the kid upstairs, unbeknownst to fucking me, who I saw every day, and talked to,

and he'd walk up down, burnt and down with a fucking guitar. box, you know, I thought he was a student up the corner. Everybody got a fucking guitar, right? Well, one day we're talking in the back. There's like a 4th of July barbecue, and somebody's going on, so when are you going back on the road with Limp Biscuit? He was in a band? He was in that Biscuit?

And he's going, I go back out. What the fuck, was it, Wes? No, no, no, no. This was the opening band for Limp Biscuit. So, you know, after. the barbecue, I saw him a few times, and one day we were outside and I asked him if you want to smoke a joint. And we started talking, I go, can I ask you some personal questions? So you're on tour with Limbiscuit. He goes, yeah, this is Limbiscuit's biggest tour. We do six cities and then somebody else does six cities, then somebody else does six, then we go back.

I go, how many cities are they doing all together? Bro, I'm just throwing numbers at you. At the time, he goes, they're doing. in 43 cities and I go how many shows are you guys on and he goes we're on like 32 of them so I go can ask you a question well we see you waiting for the fucking bus it's not right and he goes what are you talking about I go talk I get $15 a show and I got a fucking piece of shit car it's got no insurance and the breaks hardly work at least no money giving it a New York trying he was telling me his deal

Yeah, and it was... They gave it out, the album came in Top 10, like number 6, it did well, but not for the 70th stances. It did well for 1998. Yeah.

And Lip biscuit, it was on Limp Biscuit's label, with somebody's label, and Limp Biscuit took them out. They just tore with them and that's all that was. They played for, they paid for Perdium, hotel, travel. That's it.

And that's it. I mean, that's what a lot of people don't even understand that part of the world too. I was like, even be like most of these, like even some of these festivals.

You can't even play these festivals if you don't have the money to pay for them. You got to pay for your own flight in your own room. Let's just say it like a big festival, like a coach, like some certain shit, if you're not the artist that they want,

like, you know, if they booked you to make you to the point where they're like, you should be happy that you're on this festival type of shit. It's like, you pay up your own room your own flight. You know what I'm saying? So if you

didn't get that money to do that shit, then you can't even do that. You feel me? So you've got to turn that festival down. Thank God I always had the money to be able to do that. And I think that's what made me. Because I think I took all the fucked up shit that I did in drug dealing, I didn't do it with rap music.

So I always had the money to be able to play those festivals and cover those grounds. So anytime a big festival came to me and it was probably something that I probably a lot of shit I probably did I probably won't even on that level to probably play yet but I was able to afford it to do it

and I was had that name to where I could bring that draw so like now it's like I'm too big I'm too, it's like I'm in a space where it's like I'm too big for it I'm too over it like you can't really it's like how I was when I started it I don't know if I respect it

I know I can't expect it I'm humble and I'm and I'm fucking and I appreciate it appreciate everything that I got from it, but it's not like, it's not, it doesn't, like, I don't know. Like, it doesn't drive me. Like, I don't want to wake up in the morning and write a rap song. Well, you're pretty good at it.

So unless you're going to become a weatherman over. I'm beating, you're a weatherman and shit. You better get back to just, in the words of Paul Mooney, when you want to be creative, you're going to get entertained. Oh, oh no. And that's what I do, and I know that. I know that, and that's what I try to do a lot. No, I'm never, I was, I would rap for the rest of my life, but I'm saying my whole point of it. That's not your number one ambition.

And that's what I'm, look, now let's draw back to that. Now I told you, in the beginning, my favorite rapper was Nas, right? My last, like, when I got out of my last deal, Nause was trying to sign me to his label and Mass Appeal. And, you know, we clicked, you know, we talked. So you're like meeting your idol. Like, you know, you know what they say you never should meet your idols type shit. Like, I'm meeting the fucking person that makes me like even want to do the shit that I want to do.

And when I talked to him, he told me that I was just more than a rapper. That's what his breakdown was. It was like, you were way more than a fucking rapper. And I just thought about that shit all the time. Like, what does he mean by that? Like, what do we mean by that I'm more than a rapper? So always, ever since then, I tried to do shit that was outside of, like, just, try to do more than rap.

Like, doing voiceover work or just trying to even do, like, I'm fucking auditioning for movies and shit, which fucking sucks because I don't ever get it. Like, going on auditions is not something that, like, I'm not, that's not a part of my world. Is it frustrating? Do you wish you could make? Even now, like, I'm close. I'm always close to getting the road.

Like, I'm close. I could probably say I got it, but I don't even want to mention it, but. It's fun. I'm close. Yeah. I'm close. All that stuff is fun. And, you know, Jim Brown played football.

Any fucking shot movies, you know. And now, you know, you put American gangster on. How many fucking rappers are in that movie? Ti. Mm-hmm. Common, you know. Just you did the soundtrack. But even like you, even with comedy, though, like,

I even feel like even some time with that. Like, now, like, even look at comedy with Netflix. with Netflix. So many fucking comedy specials on Netflix. Unbelievable. And I don't, like, you can't even watch them all.

It's too much content. And not even, I mean, I mean, most of them are that good. One month, every month.

There's some shit I can find on YouTube that's better. Like, some random, like, it's almost like rap, it's like the way comedy, like comedy is cracking right now,

but it's almost like underground shit the way rap was. Like, I find myself listening to more a podcast than I do music now. And I find it fucked up because I make music. I don't even know what's cracking right now. I'm new at music because I listen to podcast. I'm listening to the fucking church.

I'm not looking at the blog, looking at what the fucking newest, how this mixtape is now. I'm listening to fucking podcast now. I guess it's like a growing up. I don't know. And that's organic because I'm just doing what I like. because I could still be studying fucking bullshit rap music and trying to fucking be a fucking 18-year-old right now

and I'm fucking about to be 36. You feel me? Like, I can't be fucking jumping around on stage. Like, put a fucking, when I'm 50 years old, you feel me? So I'm in that transition point right now, you know? And I just really just want to, like, be secure in life because rap music is selling dope to me. It's a gamble.

Like, because you can, You can be successful for 10 years and be fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Like right now, like, I'm good right now. Fucking 36 years old, but 46 I can be fucked up. Do you what I'm saying? Ficked up in which way? Financially.

And I'm not trying to be fucked up in 10 years in no type of way. Like, I came, because people look at it, like, and then that's the second call to it where you see these motherfuckers. fucking, blind private jabs and having the biggest, you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? Like, they fuck with not even a half of the shit that you put into what you do. You get what I'm saying? But that shit only lasts for it, man, you know? Like I say, I wanted a career out of it. I didn't want to fucking fly by night, fucking rap, fucking one-hit wonder type of bullshit, you know.

And I'm building a natural fan. band bass and I'm real humble and I'm real fucking appreciative of what I have but I just know the state of music that fucking the genre of music that I do is not really like it's not like I can't really like

look at it like it like it's not insurance for me I can't say I can't trust it that's what I'm gonna say I can't trust it at this point you know it's like selling dope to me and always look at it like that which I kind of Because there's nothing like having your back against the wall. And that's what probably makes me produce the best shit. That's what probably make me have like,

because I know like any project could be over for me. One trash your album and then it's over. I'm back to figuring it out. I might be buying some weed. Going back and trying to buy some pounds of weed. But here's the beauty. Going back to the hood. I did some research into this.

Okay, let's talk about. do do do do do do do do do do do What's the name of that girl that sang that? Tom Diner She also sang that song My name is Luca I live on the second floor I'm just giving you an example

This woman, okay? This woman is no ball of fire. What was that again though? What was the name of it? What? You made that song. Tom's Diner. Tom's Diner.

Yeah, that was like a big deal. Okay, when I was gonna take a girl like her, for example. Suzanne Vega. Suzanne Vega had two fucking big commercial hits. Tom's Dina, I don't know when Tom's Dina came out with. That was a commercial hit that Suzanne Vega still held on. 87. That's 35.

That's what I love of what's he doing. That's what I'm saying. Okay, so that's 30 years. So it's to the point. That's what I'm saying. It's to the point in my life where I want to look at it like, I could be able to do this. I wanted to be able to do rap music.

and I want to make rap music just because I love doing it and I'm a fan and I'm a fan and I want to have fun and I want to make music for the people that like The fans that like

what I do I want to make music for them and like that shit but it has become so expensive that I don't even know if I can afford it no more let's say that you feel what I'm saying

it has become so expensive that I don't even know if I can afford it no more you know so to make the type of music that I want to make and then the type music that's popular

it doesn't even cost happening that I'm trying to make so it's almost like I could lose a game already before I even started playing you know me so it's like selling dope it's like being a hustler which I love in some sense because it's like being around from Detroit if I was like some like like I've been doing what I'm doing for a long fucking time and been real like making good money and being successful in that sense but But if I was like, it's rappers that don't even have like a quarter of what I have and they go through way more trouble just because they're way more popular. Because like they hide, like with police.

So let's say say fans are the police, I'm still being able to make money and kick my feet up and hang out with my cats and fucking permanent heels and have to worry about nobody trying to even worry about where I live at and even be weird with me. Like I can go out every day and people don't say shit to me and don't fuck with me. Only time people fucking me is when I go to big cities When I go to New York When I go to L.A. Like, it's just big cities

That's when I get recognized And people like, oh, Danny Brown shit But when I'm in Detroit, When I'm at home, I'm at fucking the grocery motherfuckers They hate to see me almost type of shit It's like, what the fuck you doing here? If a person know who I am, they hate to see me That's how Michigan is.

That's how Detroit is. And you live in Detroit full time? I live in Permanent Hills. Well, I probably shouldn't say that. I live in the suburbs of Detroit. But you live in Detroit full time. So you fly a lot. All the time.

That's why I move closer to that. So about, yeah. So will you go back in the studio soon? I mean, the studio is in my house. With me, I'd rather go back in a studio to be recording lines for some cartoon TV show or something. You know what I'm saying, than an album. but with me, as far as making songs, I can't really count it. Like, it just really happens organic.

Like, I just get music, I get beats, and I might get bored one night. Or if I'm working on an app, working on a project, I know to put these beats on every night. Probably like any, like a comedian. Probably sit down and want to write jokes every night. I know I've got to sit down and write an album. You know, I've got to write these songs. But me, I was in Adirah. Adderall is my shit

So I take Adirau And sit down And fucking smoke an ounce of weed Fucking probably about two cigarettes And write like five songs You know But then I just write Probably like

And I probably do this for like A year Not even record them And then once I get done Once I feel like I got enough shit Where I'm comfortable enough Because I like You know

You know it is when you write some shit And it's so good You just memorize it Like you're in a shower You're just taking a shower and you ain't even recorded this like I don't even know for you like you ain't even said this joke yet Probably like you didn't even did this bit But it's so good till you already to yourself You just already saying it to yourself and I have a song in my head and I'm already grooving to that shit like damn

It's gonna be laid so I got it record and that's how I know when I record that song and put that shit up So when you have the lyrics down you already know you got the lyrics Where's the beat come from your boy? Yeah your homie's is you just get some there and I'm yeah You can't even I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't start until I get a beat, but I don't even start writing a song until I get a hook. Hooked is the number one thing.

People don't really realize, I mean, that's the money maker. You can't really, you can't really be a successful musician writing-wise if you can't even write hooks. And you can be the best rapper in the fucking world. You can't write a good, the worst rappers have the best hooks at this point.

What is a hook name? They're the most successful. I mean, the chorus. Okay. The chorus. I mean, if you could just write choruses and rap music, like, that's all that matters now. You don't even have to be, like, a great lyricist. You don't have to be like...

What's the best chorus of all time? I love it when you call me Big Papa. That was amazing. Damn, that is a great question. Fucking Uncle Joey. What is the best fucking chorus and rap music of all the time? And you know what? You know what I would say?

To be on some rap music shit? best rap chorus probably wasn't even rap. It was just some shit that was scratched. Or it wasn't a chorus. Like, just being that real. Like, the best rap chorus in this motherfucker probably was Jay-Z. I don't need a hook for this bitch. Like, you know what I'm saying?

That's what the hook was. I don't need a hook for this shit. And then he went back in. So something like that, I would probably say was the best chorus. When Joey says he would go crazy When he'd hear Black Sabbath, if you hear Jay Z going, I don't need a hook for this shit. Do you know?

My go crazy, like, go crazy for me music. It's like, like, like, I'm real. Like, I'm like, like, I want shit to like, I want, like, with rap music, I want to make, like, want to do bad shit. Like, rap music, I'm supposed to want to fucking feel like I want to murder you. Like, the first time I heard Cheap Key, like, you get what I'm saying? Like, I wonder if, like, if rap music doesn't,

It doesn't scare me if it doesn't feel like I don't post it. Like I don't feel like this is not good. I think it's not good. You feel what I'm saying? Like, it's not nothing that's supposed to be on the radio. It's nothing that's supposed to be cool with your grandma and be able to play that fucking picnics and fucking rap music is supposed to be some shit that she's supposed to be like, oh the fuck, no.

That shit is only supposed to be listening to in your headphones and your basement, in your personal time. Like the shit this person is saying like, You listen to those really too short records, like freaky tales? Like, you can't even play that shit out loud right now and not feel comfortable. Like, so how was he playing that shit back in the day and being comfortable? Like, the 80s is crazy. Like, growing up in the 80s was crazy in some sense.

That's why I'm, like, when you be talking about the 70s and shit, like, I really, like, just, like, really wish I was, like, a part of the ad world. Like, I wish I was, like, the 70s seemed, like, the best decade. Ever. First time I heard that was when I was locked up, and it was the third spot I went to, which was primarily black. And I said this on Burke Kreis's podcast. I go, Bert Kreisier, if you think black people talking movie theaters,

wait until you go to county jail and spend the night. You don't know nothing. That ain't rapping. Brothers come to life. That's why when you... Both. Listen. That's why when you said to me that they rap in prison at night, I just died.

Because if I listen to bad rap music. It gets deeper than that. Like Uncle Joey, like, I had a bunky that the thing was, Oh, my God. Do you know you could take a garbage bag and, like, wrap it over your toilet? And then, you know, you flush all the water out your toilet. And you just put your ear to the bowl and then just yell down the bowl. And there's other motherfuckers that did that

And then now you talk with them Like that was like internet chat lines And counting chill So you had it It's crazy Like he woke up They call it flush in the talk Like they were flushed like boom

He did tear a plashing bag Knock all the water out You in your bunk I'm in the top bunk Trying to go to sleep And you're having a conversation This motherfucker had to flush the water On the bone

Now he got his head at the bowl Trying to talk to What's up? What's up, dog? Yo, what's up? The next thing you got somebody flush their bones. A little rock. Who's this?

Who's this? A little rock. They got it through a toilet. Like, the same toilet you got the shit on and piss on. You got your face on that bitch. Like, it's motherfucking. All fucking night. Like, you go on Skype. Like, they skyping every night.

And you might come across some shit. Every night and I wake up. This thing might be doing some weird shit. Won't they see them tomorrow? Won't they get to hang out in the morning? How? You in jail? Where?

I don't know. Doesn't matter. Lee, they will talk. Like, I would be here. And the funeral parlor is across the street. I'm just saying. And they would yell from the cells. Oh, yeah.

No, that's all. The brothers would yell. Yo, Toray, yo, what up? What up? Where are you at? Yo, Toray, where you from? I'm down from Maine, Washington. You got a cousin name, Tina?

Ask him in the morning. Oh, shit. I love to you. I think one thing I learned about jail and it was probably like the best thing. It exposes to whoever you are. Like, if you really, if you were, if you tough like that, like, you tough like that.

If you're a bitch-ass nigga, like, you're a bitch. If you're a fact, like, you're a fact. Like, if you, like, whatever you are in, like, you can fake in the real world. But once you go behind them walls, like, as a man, like, we're gonna find, like, niggas, like, we're gonna really, what are you? Like, you know what I'm saying?

Or you really find yourself. I don't know, like, Like, I can't. I don't want to say that. Like, it's like such type of retreat. If you go there and you make it out, like, and you can figure it out. Like, it really is true. Like, but you find yourself in that motherfucker.

You really figure out who you are. You're like, no, I'm not like these motherfuckers. Like, I watch the nigg get raped through the sale. Oh, God. Like, that they had the job for me, like a registry job. Like, you know, because you know, motherfuckers come from upstate. And they got to come to the county. to the jail

and he had to get a nigga the cheese sandwich the nigger grabbed him through the cell like the nigga he gave him a sandwich the nigger knocked him out I don't know how

but he knocked him out some type of way and was fucking this nigga through the cell like he in his cell this thing on the outside what would you take dick or cheese sandwich

that's what type of shit out and this is county jail this ain't prison this ain't growing up state this fucking county Okay

I saw it again Fuck Don't talk If I don't If I ever had to go there Could I Could I just talk to? No the worst thing I had

Let me tell you The worst thing I dealt with in jail I'm going to tell like this Because I work registry I'm gonna put this shit out there Because it need to be put out there Oh sure It needs to be put out there

This is a story That need to be told Worse than the last one What This is a story That need to be told This is the real one This is the story

they need to be told in Danny Brown like some real shit. Like, get your recorders ready. Like, real shit. So look, I'm working, like I said, I'm in the county. I'm working registry. It's to the point I got the motherfucking police officers on my line. Like, all the fucking CEOs, they love me. I don't even eat the jail

food no more, Joey. They bring me Burger King. I'm a motherfucking taking a subway sandwiches up to my bunk. Like, I'm living that type of life in county jail. You feel what I'm saying? Like, the fucking police, I'm like, Cheecher's pet. The fucking police laugh me at this motherfucker, you know what I'm saying?

So I get, but I get other cigarettes. You feel what I'm saying? I'm the nigger because I work registry. That's the point of registry. So, but all the people before me was sell cigarettes. I smoke so much cigarettes and I'm getting people sending me money. Like my homies from, like I said, the homies I was hustling for,

they sending me money. So I don't need to even need to sell cigarettes to make money in jail for commissary because I always got full commissary books. Like I, you know what I'm saying? So I was in tripping on making money like that. So I just smoke. cigarettes so the whole jail hated me I really flipped the whole jail when the homie gave me his job and left he was selling cigarettes he left out and

showed me like he had like 5,000 like he just made fire racks in like eight months like he was locked up for a year too I got me fire racks eight months like you better make money while you locked up you leave home with some money which I wish I probably should have did because I went home broke like I I told you and like my second day being home I'm like what the fuck I'm gonna do but anyway so I was just just smoking all the cigarettes. Like, the type of

motherfucker I was going and next floor is getting my hair braided by motherfuckers, like, all the type of weird shit. You know what I'm doing? See, I didn't forget what I was even talking about there now. That's that story. What was I needed to? He would talk a shit about the star of death.

What was I leading to with this story? I don't even remember, but whatever. If I had, God forbid, anything ever happened, could I, like, go to a garden and just say, put me in, in solitary.

You don't want to do that. Lee, Jelley? You know what it is about Jim? No. It just be, no. No, I'm being honest though.

Just be yourself. Just be who you is. I don't want to be anything. Like I said, exposed you for who you is. So if you, if you're like not really about that life, man.

I'm not. Like, isn't that what happens? Joey's talked about it. Like, some kid like me, just like a DUI or something and end up in there. why that seems like the worst place. Yeah, I'd probably be on negative.

But you know what it is? It's just that those big states, like, L.A. and like I hear like shit about Texas, like a motherfucker get locked up like a DUI, and you get lost in the system. Like shit like that, you're supposed to be fucking, you're supposed to go out and then you end up doing six months. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like shit like that. Like, I hear a story. Like, even me. But hang on, I put, I won't pose to do a year for it. Because now look what we're doing now. you got fucking dispensaries we buy weed for free I got like that for selling weed

I did eight months in my life for selling weed you can go buy weed for free every fucking day y'all gonna give my eight months back every every fucking state trying to fucking legalize weed that's what I did time for I'm gonna Joe you are you alright

no no I got allergies you did time for everything else you did it just caught up with me it just caught up That's what I said. There's a good. The stick in the head. That's right.

No, the worst story I had. See, that's what I'm saying. Like, the fuck, the worst fuck them shit. That's what fucked our spot up. I remember one time, like, one time we got raided. Like I said, we used to get raided so much that we was used to the shit. We used to have a fucking ounce head on the roof. So we're going to fucking roof.

And we had this weed. We'll go out there. Why on the cops stretching the roof? They couldn't even get up there if they wanted to because it was a chimney. So if there was the cum, it was like a ladder. if there was a coming. So you said, say, it was a fucking seven-story apartment, right?

So if you got to the highest floor, the seven-floor, and then you saw a ladder, you go up this ladder, and it's like a lock, it's like a padlock. So you think it's locked. So when you push it,

it feels like it's locked, but it's just us sitting on it. Because they were push on it. They would get there and push on it, but it was us sitting on it. You know what I'm saying? But if you went there, like, as soon as they raided,

we would just run instantly and run to their route, open that shit up. We're sitting in the roof clothes that shit up, boom. Sitting on it, I got a pack of a cigarette. We're fired up. We smoke, and we just wait in the sea. We look over and just see how our neighborhood react to know if the post.

Well, we can see the bands and know if they're gone and shit like that and know if they love. But one day we got raided, right? We like, fuck it. Whatever the fuck. We got raided. But day taking, we're getting so used to raise. Well, we don't give a fuck no more. What do you mean you don't give a fuck that?

I'm saying? don't give a fuck so much that we like fuck it why they raiding we still just left from the roof and just came down and just went down through the shit and just went out the back dough like fuck it and we came out the back door and then we went to the gas station like grabbed some sodas grabbed some blunts or whatever the fuck and we're like walking up the block and shit and we've seen this little kid on the porch and was like fuck it let's just um you know i ran and sat on the Portuguese. And the kid name, his name was Little B, which is the funniest shit. His name is Bryant, but we called him Little B. This was like 2000, I don't know, 2001

Little B. So I met Little B. He's from Oakland, just the funniest shit in the world. He's telling me about fucking OG Cush, all this type of crazy weed that I never even heard of in my life. But I ended up liking his little kid. He only like 13, 14. You know what I'm saying? Like I told you we had this spot for like so this is like the first year of us having a spot and us getting rated You know what I'm saying but I met this kid a little bit already grabbed the kid from a remember I told you like once the spot started making money I went back to school and started recruiting and I grabbed the kid which is baby jane that's my homie so I had baby jane's work with me Then doom was just like my fourth I had doom with me so had like two niggas in the spot with me that and they was like surpassed me quickly That's how I knew I wasn't a good drug dealer

Like because like all I was doing Was buying video games and like clothes And like instantly they had like Benz and car And houses and shit And like two weeks of them working around me Like I brought them into this shit And then before I knew it

They was like way more successful than me And like soon as like instantly So I end up meeting this kid Little B and I'm like fuck it I said on his porch while my spot was getting raided and I smoked the blunt with him and then I end up brought him into the mix. How old is this little being? 14.

Oh my God. But he turns out to be a fucking psycho. Like one day, like I put him in a spot and I put him up on game. Okay, I'm just going to fast for it and I'm just going to make a long, you know, just make a long story short. So now he already with the shit, he in the spot. And one day I just come back to the spot. That's when I knew it was like all the way like full fled, it's crazy.

Like I come back to the spot. He in there working with it. And I come back to the spot and he's like, yo, the nigger owe me for some money so I kidnapped him. He in the closet right now. He got a motherfucking craghead that owe him $20 just trapped in the closet like on some oak. Like we don't even trip on fucking credit. Like how we hustle like that is like a $20 or whatever. Like we like, you know.

You got to give a hundred credit from time and time. Credit is like what made me like being like popular. Like I didn't even have a name Danny. My name was Daniel all the way so I started giving out credit. Then crack and started calling me Danny. You like to be like, Danny, what's up? What's up? You know what I'm saying?

So anyway, the motherfucker, um, and he kidnapped the, he got a shit. He had a nigga in the fucking closet. Fucking let the nigga go. I'm like, man, you can't do that. You know what I'm saying? Like, just not. You got a little nigga go.

But how do you get him in the closet? I don't know as a 14 year old But we had guns So I feel like he's a gun He just put him in the closet Yeah he just put him in the closet And was the closet on the street If I had a closet

This is I'm just making a long story short The long story short is the motherfucker in the closet End up getting shot I ain't saying who shot I'm a who shot What happened? He ended up getting shot Like a week later The brothers

Or the people of the brother End up coming through And they shot our shit up shooting at us, like, doing shit, like, retaliation for the brother. And it's like, it was a crackhead. This wasn't like, and that's what fucked our spot up.

It wasn't that we got into it with some street niggers, some real shit. It was us, like, my homie that we got some random 14-year-old from Oakland. And I was like, oh shit, he with the shits, he might be cool. He just took it too far

and kidnapped a crackhead. But you don't know who you kidnapping? just because a motherfucker crackhead don't mean he don't got people and this crackhead ended up having people that really care the fuck about him like really like money behind like he was just a crackhead

but his family really had shit and they they threw firebombs in our spot they burnt the bitch up like I remember us it got to the point we started trying to go out of town because we had so much work from us hustling so like we got to get it up somewhere we started trying to go to Ohio Lymo Ohio

And I remember I went to Vegas, then that shit didn't work out and coming back and then everything was over. Like with selling crack, like our spot was burnt down. The building was raided out, like you couldn't even make, we selling crack on the streets. Like it was over. You know what I'm saying? So you started trying to, that's when we started selling weed. So it just transferred the weed. And selling weed was selling weed to our friends.

And from that, that's what got me locked up. And once I went to jail, it was like, once I was in jail, because I was already started, like, trying to make music and, like, trying to be a rapper. But, like I said, my friends hated me for making, trying to be a rapper. So, I was always, like, not really, like, confident in it. You people what I'm saying? But I just put my best foot forward. I don't know. It's just like I had nothing else to do.

I don't know. You're like, rich again, officer and the gentleman. You have nowhere else to go. Like, it's like, what else am I doing? That's it. After that point, like, after the shit, like me putting the pounds on the truck and all that shit. I mean, one time it was like... Pounds in truck.

No, it was like, we was in Arizona, and I had to, like, and I was, like, putting the bows on the world. We were putting the bows on truck and shit. But we had, like, money in the house. But then he was these Mexican motherfuckers like the one boy was getting the pounds from. But, like, the niggas that was, it was like, okay, it was like the plug. It was like the big homie. He was talking to my big homie, and then it was like, he had his workers. then my big homie

had his worker and I'm part of my big homie workers like so I was the nigga that was just with my big I'm his right hand man look they're fucking playing I'm his right hand man

but I'm just putting balls on the truck I ain't doing anything I got a gun I got a gun on me shit like that but one day just 10,000 came up missing

so I had to be one of these niggas like one of these Mexican niggas not speaking English like like weird shit like so a nigga's trying to find where the money yet like you know what I'm saying

and it could it went bad, but I guess we just took that L, just to be like, whatever, but I knew that, that was me after jail, though. I'm like, but I'm still putting myself in these situations because this is my big homie that's supporting my life, like, put my money in my pocket, but he was giving me the gun, and I, a motherfucker beat him for Tim Racks, and I got, so I'm supposed to shoot the nigger. You get what I'm saying? Like, I got a plan, like, I'm already, like, I'm already planning there, like, fuck it,

I'm about to shoot this nigga and then just jump out the window, and then, I got to figure it out. I'm in fucking Phoenix, Arizona. But what the fuck I'm supposed to be putting myself through that shit after spending eight months in the county? You know what I'm saying? This is after county jail? Yeah, this is after.

This is when I got out and told myself I'm being a rapper. All the money I was making was going into my rap career at this point. You're a glutton for punishment. I did the same thing. I did the same thing. I didn't load trains. A glutton for punishment. I was treading on a thin motherfuckin.

I was treading on a thin motherfucker. fucking line, you know what I'm saying? Big difference, but because that's the thing I want to actually like, nobody comes out of general and sticks with the Bible. Like, how do you stay so strong and just stick to the script?

Me? Yeah. No, no, no, no. I let, where's the pen? You know me? I'm an econ major. I like graphs. So there's no misunderstandings. You understand me? I like graphs. So let's pretend.

I got out of. I got out of. for three seven months i stayed at that fucking camp okay then they ship me to a halfway house now let's say i got to the halfway house monday at 3 p.m if you want me to lie to you i can tell you a bunch of lies and shit if i got to the halfway house monday at 3 p.m you got like a three day period in the house where you got to do paperwork and learn to buy laws and clean your room and mop

the hallways. Then that's like the three days, they give you your paperwork and they verify all the places that you know in the area and shit. By Thursday, they let me out in the afternoon. By Thursday afternoon, I already did cook. What did you?

What time did you leave? Like noon? Let's say I got the the halfway house Monday. Right. At 3 in the afternoon. I played the game Monday. Okay. You already know a blow.

I'm over. The game Tuesday. See, that's my whole thing with me. I played the game Wednesday. Even I told you now, like I told you like blow right now is so trash. No, no, no. I'm just saying that how long did it take me to break the law? Like it took me three days.

And that's when I started slinging it. But it wasn't even three days because you were, you killed the house. Yeah, the whole time I couldn't think about it. Then it was, then I started slinging it. while living at the halfway house and loan sharking rent money. Plus, my friend was sending me watches from New Jersey, which fell off a bus there. You know, I was a one-man wrecking crew.

But I did everything that was under the radar. Like, the only worst thing I ever did there was I wanted to see you, the college, and across the street from the college, there was like a student center. And one day I walked in there, and there was just like this, fuck. I don't want to listen. They realized this thing of watches. You know, when I was in high school, I stole the whole thing

of gold chains one time. It was the same difference. They put a thing of watches that spins around. I just picked this motherfucker up. The old ladies looked at me like, and I just walked out of that motherfucker. Like, what the fucking thing you're dealing

with joy, banana? All those places, I stole every... Oh, my God. I did everything that was low radar. So there's a low-we-in-or. Because you saw you. How is that, Lord? It's a way in your face.

I remember going to somebody in the department stores and seeing the shit of Rowley water. Listen, man. These times just grab that bitch. You walk out. You're getting caught with two ounces. I know it's part of a cook. You get caught with two ounces of coke.

It's a ride. And you getting caught with three stolen pens that assumeably you stole. Because remember, there was no cameras in these days. There was no roll. the videotape like there is now go to the hallway see if he walked by if he was getting chased

by Davy Brown you know you know you don't fuck it there was none of that shit listen I remember being 1985 this is how crazy and Daniel Tice

this is the mind of an 85 I don't know I'm like boom I'm born in 81 I moved to Boulder I got 10 G000 94 it was lit 85. I got 10 G's in the bank. I got eight G's in my pocket, maybe a thousand and hundreds and the rest in 20s.

I walk by this radio shack every fucking day. Oh my God. I go to the mall every day and every day I walk past this radio shack and there's not a it's not a DVD player. What came before the DVD player? VHS. VCR. Oh, laser dish. Oh, laser desk.

Can I remember my uncle, look. Look, that's why I laughed when you said Radio Shack. I had an uncle that was addicted to crack, and he would break into every Radio Shack. Oh, my God. It was so much he was on the news. He, like, caused Radio Shack millions. Like, it was the Radio Shack band.

He got caught in this shit. He did, like, eight years. He was breaking in Radio Shacks. Like, he literally destroyed every Radio Shack in Detroit, or in Michigan, that area of Detroit. Like, he would, like, just, he would saw the back of the back of the store. Like, I don't, what you call?

Like, break. I don't know. Oh, no, it's a gold mine. We just go into that shit. People love... We had laser disc players with that shit before we didn't know what to do with the shit. A long clock. We didn't even have a good enough TV.

I got that shit on. You know what I'm saying? Dog, I kill Radio Shack single-handily across the country. I'm talking my... I would rob different shit from the... Give me the paperwork. No wonder I had a business now. Dog, I would rob different shit in different cities

and bring them to a different radio shack and get the money back. This is before computer. This is before you went beep. Now when you go beep it tells you where the store it came from, what time it got there, what marketing was shipped them, where it was made, who the inspector was, and who put that fucking alarm clock together. How's that one for you, Lisa, I had? Now they don't know dick. All they know is you're paying $12.9 an effort. They give you a receipt back then and you went home, and nobody do nothing.

As long as I had the store name and the date, and it's the same paperwork as their receipt, that's all they. Give a Frenchman's fuck about. How are you feeling, Lisa? I see you looking at him. Yeah, he's going through changes. He went through a couple changes. I went to, see, that's what I say. I came in respecting the star.

I ain't died. I thought I might. No, you look good. You did good. Plus the henny yak. Plus the fucking cigars. I got, bitch, his face-time. No, we did good tonight.

Lee did very good. We ate like 2,000 milligrams of trash. Western fluid. Look at them. Jesus Christ. Oh, my Uncle Joey. That's right. Tell him I'm sending them my love.

Right here. Let me show up. What up? Tell him, send me love, Uncle Joey. That's right. What's up, my love? It's over. Let me read the sad and we'll get the hell out of here.

I can't believe we came on the podcast, man. Man, I love it, man. You're the main man here. Bro, I'm a part of the church, man. You are the inspiration. If it wasn't for you, man, I don't know. like the last like year like me being in my last tour like I remember just waking up every morning and then watching your fucking morning smokes and I'd be hitting my tut-to-to-to-to when you

was hitting your shit and you just that would inspire me to do my show that night every night like fuck that go out there and slain dick fuck with you know what I'm saying that was every night I'd be like fuck that and I and that every night I would like I would no matter how I felt like I could watch you I could watch you on Periscope in the morning And you say what you got to do? I could go out and do my show every night, no matter. And that got me through my last fucking tour. I swear.

That's what I love you. I don't know if there's something about you. I liked this. Shit, Lee, how are you feeling? I'm feeling. I'm good. I'm good. I feel like I might have to go out to dinner.

Oh, it was a teen. Where are you going to? Anyway, good? No boo or something like that. No, look at you, like a fucking doctor. What are you doing when you want a snack, but you can't find it. All you can find is junk food. You rely on your self-control and you try to resist the temptation.

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Deliver to your house. Sorry about that DB. Drop it on it. No, thanks. No, I was just saying, like, man, you know, like you were, like, a big inspiration with me, like, man. I just want, like, you know, me. Like, I feel like I'm old and being 36.

Like, if I could be as cool as you are at fucking 54 years old. I'm trying, bro. And I feel like I made it. It's like a gentleman from time. I can just be as, like that's all I want to be. I just want to be as cool as you. Well, you're on your way, brother. When I'm 50, you know what I'm saying?

You got yourself out of the hard part. Yeah. That's it. Now you're out of the woods. Now you can be whatever you want to be. I mean, now the her part is just sustaining. I said my brother. And, you know, like you said, just staying in the flow.

No, no. She jungle sometimes. Make me want. What I said, since they're one. I know that's why I try to tell you the history of the Afro-Cuban. Yeah. Day one. I'm definitely going to stay black.

All I've ever told you is to stay black. Me, I stay black every day. That's all I ever try to do. I wake up in the morning, I try to stay black. Ask Lee Syatt, if I'm not the blackest Cuban, he knows. I don't change any day or the week. He wants to go eat the Vietnamese food. I wish he gets hit by a fucking food truck.

You know me, dog. All that shit, we don't change. Liger meat. Leather meat. I was not eating lizard meat. The only thing he is. I really do eat. to me like he does eat

the only thing he is more than black is he's Jewish this week he went and ate more junk oh my god and then he went back Sunday again for more junk about like what did I junk on Sunday do you like chicken gizzards I'm never trying to gizze he eats that shit every day he don't even know

he thinks he's eating like a fucking I love like that's the why I know how I'm fucked up like why do I like fried chicken gizzards like but I'm from a neighborhood like my neighborhood had like a spot That was like his thing. Like it sold fried chicken.

My neighbor didn't have that spot. Like fried chicken gizzards and fried chicken livers. And that was like the thing. Like you can go order other food from it. You can buy chicken like or like, you know, like whatever. But Joe, it's not fair with Joey because he just, he, he, he sticks with the first Asian. He's raised on that shit. He sticks with, well, do you, would you mess with anyone other than Mexican and Cuban?

Do you, do you have any other, like Hispanic food that you eat? Not really. God damn it. What else? I'm trying to think. Filipino food is fucked up. They like take like all the worst like cheapest shit but they didn't Everything is great with the Filipino for the pigeon comes out.

That's in the party. It's not going to paint a tab. We all give hugs each other. Once I see the pigeon feet on the table, you got to go. I'm saying. I love you, motherfucker. See you Wednesday night. I love you, brother.

Stay black and beautiful. Thank you very much. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Biddle. Oh, my God. Tiger. Everything is...

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