The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #483 - Christopher Reid

Episode Date: May 23, 2017

Christopher Reid, Kid from the band, "Kid 'n Play" comedian and actor, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: MVMT Watches - Go to MVMTWatches.com/church to get 15% off of their high quality watches at revolutionary prices. MVMTWatches.com/church for 15% off, with free shipping and free returns.   DollarShaveClub.com -  get your first month of razors for only $1 with free shipping at dollarshaveclub.com/church   Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.   Recorded live on 05/22/2017.  

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Oh shit. What? Monday. What? May. something that don't fucking matter. You're here. Oh shit.

In the morning, crack a don't knowin' Now I'm yawning. Whip the cold out of my eye? See who's this page in me? And why? It's my nigga pop from the barbby shop. He told me he was in the gamut. It hurt the intricate plot.

My niggas want to stick me like fly paper neighbor. Slow down love. Please chill, drop the caper. Remember that bigas from the hill up and brine. Got nice with it. God damn. Sounds good. Right here, this one. Man, love wouldn't disrespect.

Are you fucking nuts? The church of what's happening now. Christopher Kid Reed. What's up? My man, Lee Syatt. Here we go. Do you win pipes low? Oh shit.

Oh. Tell me what you want to do. I didn't want to stick me from my papers. Niggas want to stick me from my papers. Niggas from the papers. Fucker. You're a brilliant. and you bad motherfuckers.

Love wouldn't disrespect. Happy Tuesday. Christopher Kid Reed in the house, my main man. Is it Tuesday or Monday? Monday, but they'll hear it Tuesday. Don't fucking matter. And my main man on the drums, Lee Syatt, looking good. Hello, sir.

How are you? Lee's a bad motherfucker. If he was a momster, they were calling, what would they call him? What would they call? Lee the Jew. I like that. I thought you were going to go with like Tiny or something. If Lee was a gangster, he'd be the Lee the Jew.

You know, and that's a nice compliment. You said, yo, he's funny. the way to hang out with motherfuckers that are the smarter than you. Always. That's what people have never realized. You don't have to be a genius. Just get you three guys

are the smarter than you and you can take over a fucking kingdom. You know, my father used to tell me stuff like that. My father's old school Jamaican. He just turned 89. And he would tell me, like, sometimes he would see me with my friends.

He said, I see here with your friends. And sometime, you know, you're the one have it going on the most. You know, you're the smartest. You have it going on. You're bringing them up. That's a good thing. You're bringing them up.

But who bringing you up? Like, who do you hang with that's smarter than you? That's doing better than you. That, you know what I'm saying? Like, people get to take from your ocean, but where do you refill it at? You know what I mean? That's why I started hanging about, you know,

started hanging with people like Bill Maher. Like, hanging people smarter than me and, you know, just different stuff, you know what I'm saying? I think it was- What a depressing, way to start this interview. No, it was crazy. I think it was you that introduced me to Bill Maher.

But then about three weeks later, I got an audition. And I swear to God, I get there, and there's a bunch of Italians in the room with Sopranos was on fire. Right. They couldn't control this shit. Right.

So I get down and I see Sebastian Manascoco. At that time, Sebastian didn't talk much. Sebastian was very introverted, very shy, even more so than Chris Rock. Like, they just don't talk. Right. And I take Sebastian, and go in there with me.

he was hanging out with the wrong element at this audition. He wasn't going to get dick if he went in there with other than these other days. And I knew it. I was looking like big pussy. I was on fire. Right. I grabbed him out and we went in there and we nailed it. And it was me, Sebastian, and somebody else that we knew.

So it was like three brothers that we knew. Right. And they told us, don't shake Bill Maher's hand. All that shit. And all of a sudden, Bill Ma came over, started talking to us. Yeah. You know, talking about some girl on the set. He was very sweet.

He asked us if we ate. You know, we got $300 for that. to talk to us. I thought I was going to make like $10,000. I went down to like I booked an ABC promo. I'm going to make 10 Gs and shit. My agent's like you made 30. And where's mine?

And I need fucking $30. Right, but it was a good look, right? You got that tape. You know, that tape exists somewhere, you know what I mean? People that listen to us, go look for that. Because, yeah, I mean, I did a sketch back then. Yeah, man, you know what, dudes, like I said, dude's been a good, he's been a good friend to me.

And, you know, not just on the professional, but the personal. And, you know, for years, you know, we had the, you know, his theme on, on HBO's real time. You know, that I'm, um, dun, son, son, I don't get done, bun, that's you, that's you? I'll keep doing it if you don't stop. Yeah, me and me and my two good buddies busting, Chavani. You know what?

This was the thing. You know, when, you know, when Bill left ABC, you know, it was under real. They're going to put politically incorrect back. I mean They're bringing it back They're looking for a host right now Well they need I mean that'd be great if they did it

But they got to give him a check They got to you know what I'm saying Yeah they're gonna bring him back Yeah yeah yeah But my point was He had got fired from politically incorrect You know everybody thought he was You know he was

You know those were tough days You know what I'm saying You know we would talk And you know He was you know he was low But They got back on at HBO They got the show

They got real time And one day I just hit him up. I was like, hey man, you know, like, do you got a theme song for your new show? It's HBO. It should be like some cool shit, you know what I'm saying? I was like, yo, the only other one I had done was I did it from my boy Martin Lawrence for his TV show, you know, my, um, btum, btum, my because that was my boy, you know what I mean? That's kind of how I worked.

I was like, yo, you know, you got a, you got a song and he had a song. So he said, yo, man, these dudes did a song for it. And he played it for me, and it was awful. And I was like, man, let me and my boys get some of that. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, it's HBO, man. It's cool. You can cuss. And the main thing was just musically, you know, you got to get across to people and get across to the people you work with. Say, hey, man, the music we create, the way you rock, when you hear your theme song, people got to know the truth is coming. You know what I mean? So it's thinking that's what it's like that. And if you think about it, he's the only comedian that has his own theme song. Like lots of us come out to music. You know, like George Lopez comes out to lowrider, but that's not his song. You know, he

copped it. When you hear that Billmore theme song, the only person you think about is him. Wrong? That makes sense. Wrong right. But anyway. But I digress. Back to you, my friend. What's up, baby boy? No, this is interesting shit. It's good to see. Yeah, but we just talk like... I'm a big music dude, bro. That sounds like, yeah, that's

I'm a big music dude. We just talked about sound like something we should have did like 40 minutes. No, no, no. I'm a big movie. But your shit rocks. So how, you are? How, I never thought of that, that you called them and said, yours is the truth. And I want your music to come up a little bit.

Yeah, I mean, like, you know, I never even thought about that. I mean, like, I mean, you know what? I came in this game. You know, people know us, you know, kid, kid and play and the hair and the dancing and the movies and all that. But we came in the game or I came in the game on the music tip. And, you know, you know, we're both from New York. And, you know, it was just a. you know, we got exposed to everything, man.

So, you know, like we were talking about it. Like, man, you know, we grew up and we went to school with all kinds of people. We went to school with white people. We knew all their music and our music. And we got exposed to everything. You remember AM radio back in the days? Like, you didn't know what you could hear. W.A.B.C.

W.A.B.C. You had to wear the button and you got $25,000. Right. But what was the playlist? The play. You could hear OJ's. Then you could hear Captain. to Neil and then you could hear

Billy Preston and then you could hear the miracles and then you could hear Oh yes they call it the street Look at that Look at that fast thing on two feet Remember them? Remember them We got a great big convoin Runkin' through the night

We got a great big convoy I gotta get you and Bean Delray together I'm telling you man People forget these novelty records Man like and they would be Am I wrong? They would be right in the mix right after that. And then after that,

you know, you hear like, dancing, dancing, dancing, dancing! All right, so when you grew up, what station

did you grow up listen to? W.ABC. W.A.B.C. was the, you know, that was the pop station. And then,

um, um, one of the black stations, WBLS. WBLS, that was my station. BLS. I got to take two steps

to the rear and get out of here. Oh, I'm in the wind later. Are you talking about Frankie Krocker? That's how he said. That's what you said. That's all true.

Thracke, I love W. And then on Sunday nights, There I go, there I go. Yo, you should play that. Pull that song. Then on Sundays. You should go out on that song.

He's dead. So you could do that. And then on Sunday nights was, on Sunday nights was the church. You could be what you want to be. Do what you want to do. Oh, the preacher? And have what you want to have.

Reverend Ike. I used to get pissed on Sunday nights because Reverend Ike would show up on WBLS. That's right. And then I would have to switch over to fucking. But then I would have to switch over to fucking. What's what's your number of N.E.W. And you had the King Biscuit Flower Hour. And he would interview people when you learned.

Right. You said something very interesting here in the beginning. When I came from Cuba, whatever my mother played at the house is what I grew up on. The Doors at first. She used to rock out, huh? She liked the Doors, and she liked Spanish music. Right.

But then I was against the Spanish music. But when I started hanging out in 140A Street, those little Rican motherfuckers got me into salsa and funny, All-Stars and all that shit. So now I'm eight. Good stuff. Listening to our Latin thing.

Eight. At eight, most kids are listening to. I wasn't even listening to American music. Right. And I would listen to the radio at the house. Then about ten was when I got my first. I thought long-haired people were creepy motherfuckers. Right.

Like, fuck that long-haired shit. They are. Those people around me. Right. Coming from a long-haired. Yeah. My long-hair went up in the air. This is 1970.

Like, I was against long-haired. The whole thing. When I started hearing that. type of music. That was my closet music. Right. Like Led Zepp was the shit I listened to alone. I didn't want my buddies to know. I listened to Led Zepp. I did that too. We all did. I hid

that. And I'm half white. So you know I'm so, you know, it's a beautiful thing that you're I grew up on everything. Yeah, yeah, you know what it is. I grew up on everything. I did. And you know, growing up, um, you know, I'm Jamaican and Irish. So, you know, which means I get high and drunk, by the way. But what it, what it meant was, it meant for a real,

you know, like you said, we listen to everything. And then, you know what? Thank God, you know, we grew up where we grew up. You know what I'm saying? Like, New York's going to give you a dose of everything. You know, if you're just walking down the block hearing music from different cars and stuff like that. So we grew up on that, but there was something about that hip hop that we gravitated toward. You know what I mean?

Like we weren't like traditional singers or stuff like that. And we grew up, we love that R&B era. You know what I mean? We love that Teddy Pendergrass. And we love that OJ's and all that. But something about that hip hop when it started popping, it spoke to us. You know what I mean? And me, I was like an English major.

I was like a little, I thought I was a little writer, you know? And I was like, you know, I feel like I can do this. Like I can be clever and whatever. And I remember the first rhyme that I wrote. First rhyme I was 14 years old. Freshman. I went to the Bronx High School. of science.

All right. I'm gonna break this. Can I break, can I break it down? This is the first rhyme I ever wrote. Break it down. First rhyme I ever wrote. You always, it's like your first one.

It's like the first piece of pussy you ever got. You have them. Most emcees, they remember their first rhyme, even if it sucks. Okay. All right. This is my first rhyme. Yo, I was on the train coming home from school when I seen this freak that made me drool. We used to call them freaks.

A girl was a freak. Okay. Right. There's still freaks in the church. Right. When it came back, though, it went away and it came back. You know what I'm saying? I was on the train coming home from school when I seen this freak that made me drool.

You see this freak hat on a low-cut dress that plainly showed the parts that was the best or so I got off my seat and sat down next to her. Told this fine young freak, she was a fine young girl. She rewarded me with an invitation to her house and with an exclamation. I told her I'd be glad to come. But one thing first I got to call my mom Tell her that I'll be home real late Tell her not to worry

And not to wait and rock rock y'all You don't stop a key You know How do you remember? That's amazing Let me ask you this bro First rock 19, you're 14 Who's rapping already Who's rapping when you're 14

It's 97 maybe It's 78 78 78 who's rapping people in my neighborhood because our rappers delight i don't i think i came out in 79 79 yeah it was i mean yeah you know rappers delight was the first like quote-unquote you know rap record but we was already rapping you know i was rapping you know 78 78 79 it was you know it was you know we were getting it on on on literally on cassette tapes you know grandmaster flash and the furious five uh you know uh break out in the in the funky four grandmaster cas and and you know the fearless you know all these you know it was just crews but

but the first one the bus was you know with that hip the hop the hip and but as new yorkers we was like but it was all we had you know what i mean so yeah we was into it it was it was it was real uh tribal and neighborhoodal you know what i mean like you was you was a local legend but outside of, you know, like, you know, we're coming up in Queens, you know what I mean? I was born in the Bronx, but me and Play grew up in Queens together. Yo, we was just trying to be a legend in our neighborhood, you know what I'm saying? And that's what we did. And play and I were like in different groups.

Like he was in one group and I was in another group. We were like rivals at first. So, you know, we would try to, we were all friends, but we all, you know, we're trying to, you know how it is. Like, you know, he even has comics, you know what I'm saying? Like, yo, I'm going to, you know what I mean? That's my boy, but you know what I mean? When you were running in Queens, did you ever bump into the DMC in the early, early days? No, no.

And they were confused. No, no, no, because they were ahead of us. Like, they were like, I mean, those guys were legends. Those guys were Queens legends. Like, if we ever caught sight of- But they busted out like an 82, 83. Yeah. So by the time, yeah.

So by the time, by the time, you know, yeah, I'm just graduating high school then. Like, I remember, God, I remember me and I remember playing I going up to the feet. You don't know the fever uptown disco fever, right? Sal Abatello and the disco fever, you know, that's where they base crush groove out of and all. It was the famous club in the Bronx, right? So we're like, yo, man, we got, you know, we just took the train up there, man. And, you know, we were just trying to be around it. We hadn't blown up or anything.

We were nobody. But we just had to be around that. Man, we seen, we saw a run up in that motherfucker. Like, I mean, run was a legend, man. Those guys are the guys that we idolized that we were trying to be like run DMC, Houdini. you know, Curtis Blow, you know, the fat boys. All them guys was ahead of us, man, and they were doing different shit.

Like, fat boys was, you know, blending into the movies. You know, Crush Groove, you know, Curtis Blow. You know, run DMC. I mean, come on, man, who was bigger than run DMC in, in 85? You know, Cool, Jay. Cool J was blowing up then. And all these cats, lot of these cats were from Queens, man. The sad thing is that I remember talking to you now.

I'm a little fucked up because... You are, because you didn't, you got the edibles. No, no, no, no. But I remember going. It's incredible. I remember going to those different, like, listen, I copped on Jerome Avenue on Wednesdays. It was a free joint day. On Thursday, you go to Queens because the guy had the boot of tie.

Yeah. On Tuesday, you went to the Bronx and you got a slice of pizza at that place because that guy was there selling weed. On Monday, you went to 178th Street. And on Saturday and Sunday, you went to 135th Street. So I would go to all these different burrows. and when you're walking these burrows, you would hear, like you said, your sensory, you would hear all these fucking sounds. And I'm sure I remember hearing like early rapping going, what the fuck is this?

Sure. Wizard on fire when you need them. Oh, yeah, but that's what my mentality was. And then it caught on. Like, I, right, we were the guys. Yeah, we had, we had, we know, you know, it's like, like my kids today, like, and, and, you know, people, the millennials, they don't, know a life where hip hop didn't exist. We do. We do. We had one foot in the old world and then came into the new world. You know what I mean? We remember when they, when there wasn't. You know what I mean?

And so it was a unique. I mean, I appreciate it now. But you're right. There was a time when, you know, man, just give me some fucking earthwind of fire. Give me the whispers. Give me the OJs. Give me the Tavares. You know what I'm saying? Who done it? Who stole my lady? Who done it? Everyone And room looks shady Who done it That we don't remember Who stole my love from me Yeah

We don't remember Jesus Christ Where's Dean Delray When you need him Let me ask you something Like I don't remember You're right The millennials don't know a life

Without rap You're absolutely right I don't know nothing about you I mean God I could tell you a million times I rode in a kid with my car Excuse me Roll with my kids in the car

And you know Something come on the radio And they, you know, they jibbing and jabbing. But that's something, you know, something from our era. And I'm like, man, that ain't that ain't such a such. That's such a such. Like, shut out, daddy. I'm like, you know what?

You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Like, you know, every era thinks they invented fucking everything. You know what I'm saying? Which is cool. I get it. But, you know, I'm glad, you know, I'm glad that I'm glad I grew up when I grew up. Like I said, one foot in, one foot out.

And then as we grew, you know, as a rap group, I felt like we were lucky. We were part of what I think is one of the greatest eras of rap. If you're talking about that 88 to 92 era of hip hop, man, that was a cold era. You have some awesome groups, awesome artists that a lot of them still doing that stuff to this day. And if they're not, the music holds up. You look at people, you look at the groups from that era. Man, it holds up.

And that, you know, and that, you know, that's what's cool. I mean, you know, we're still out here, man. You know what I'm saying? We still out here jumping around. I'm growing away by how it took a while to catch on. But by 88, 89, it was on. Like, once run DMC, met Aerosmith. It took off like a fucking wildfire.

Yeah, you're talking about, yeah, but isn't that, isn't that? But I guess you can probably go back to all, like, a lot of different music forms and be like, you know what I mean? Like there was a time You know Didn't didn't What didn't the Beatles on Ed Sullivan Set it off Like there's always

That's something set it off Yeah I was gonna You know like Elvis Presley On Ed Sullivan Set it off Like you know what I'm saying Like There's probably those hip hop moments as well

Right I would imagine You guys must have lived through it And especially you Chris What do you think Like starts an era And then ends it Like to talk about 88 to 92

That's that's only four years That's not that long Well, this is what I'll say. I'll say, well, the reason why I kind of use those parameters is, 88 was like, if you go back, it was like a huge year. Like, if you look at the groups that released records that year, you're talking about some of the seminal hip-hop artists. Break it down.

And the groups that. Who released that year like that? Oh, my God. You're talking about everybody from us, from Kidd & Play, from N.W. M.C. Hammer. And it's what I'm saying And my point is It started

Jeff and a Fresh Prince So it started reaching Those freaks in Florida Came on 88 Yeah I'm telling you all that stuff Was coming out So weeks

We're reaching We reaching everybody You know what I mean We reaching everybody And the only reason why I clip it there Oh my God Is

After that It was that was the That was the Gangster rap era Right Which is very important And which is You know

Those are my boys too Gangster rap started in 93-94. I mean, that's when it started dominating. You know what I'm saying? Like, this one is that started dominating. If you're talking about 88 to 92, you're talking about crossover artists like myself, kid and play and Jazzy Jeff and MC Hammer

and vanilla ice and salt and pepper and you know what I mean? And which is important. And then you get, we got every, you know, we're good. And then those are edible. You know, I'm going to look at that. I can't get that. Man, that thing probably got it. I don't know.

I don't know. He's eating all these. Oh, my God. How much per... 125. In each one? Yeah. Oh my God.

Just take a little bite of the tail. No. Just a little piece of the tail. It didn't do nothing to know about it. That's it. That's it. You're going to sleep like a baby. You're going to go joey.

I'm going to just on the mic. I'm so happy. But I'm saying, you know, it's just like different errors. But to me, that 88 to 92 was so strong so that so that gangster rap could flourish. No, that's, and that's where we was at as a country, too. You know what I mean? the thing about hip hop that's so beautiful is about rap music is so beautiful

it reflects exactly what's going on at the motherfucking time whatever it is you know what I'm saying 88 to 92 ever hey thing and people getting to know each other and hey ain't gonna hurt nobody and parents you still don't understand and then and then you know

92 93 it's like hey man you know shit it's fucked up man and we got riots and you know like you know people of color are still getting shot Chronic. The music always, the original chronic was 92. I don't know if this was an official list or not, but I just typed in rap albums or hip-hop albums in 1988. First one is Public Enemy.

It takes an age in millions. Oh, Jesus Christ. Then, NW8, straight out of Compton. Then Slick Rick, the Great Adventures of Slick Rick. Boogie down productions by all means necessary. I don't know if any of these are going. They're all classic. They're all classic.

Everyone is like, keep going. You're supposed to get to kid and play. Played too high. We released that in 1988, too. That was the next one. Was it? No. No, yeah, I'm sure if I'm here.

I'm only five. Keep going. Cool. Who else you got? Ultra magnetic MC's critical beat down. Critical beat down. EPMD, strictly business. Come on now.

Big Daddy Kane, long live the cane. Come on. Easy does it. Come on. Biz Marquis going off. Picking boogers. Come on. Eric B and Rakim follow the leader.

Come on. Are you kidding? Am I wrong? No. 88. I was doing time, that's top 10. Listen, I was doing time in 88,

so I don't know nothing about fucking. Let me tell you something. I was doing straight up time, and I was listening to the brothers inside in those days. What are they? At that time? Were they beatboxing? What was they doing?

They were listening to the hot album was Bobby Brown. Don't be cruel. I had just come out, and I still remember going into the laundry room, and they were playing dominoes, and they were cooking. And when that song came on, what are they cooking?

What would they cook the brothers? Nachos? Yeah? There was one brother, Etchy. He worked in the kitchen with me. Yeah? And he could hook up some nachos? We would go at lunch.

We had a 20-minute furlough every day. Pretty much to walk to the store, get your shit, and walk back. Right. So we get bags of nacho, and we buy cheese, and then you take the thing out of the iron, and you melt the cheese. Right. He would cut jalapenos, etchy. Onions, black olives. Etchy was the real deal.

And then they'd buy shredded moutzoel. And they'd go down to the HIV unit and melt it in the fucking microwave. And he'd sell them for two bucks. I don't know he can call it Moutes if you're making nonchos. He would he would dope him up. Actually, he was a bad motherfucker. A little skinny dude. Then he had a partner that was from Buffalo.

I forget, tea, big tea, 6'4 6, you know, 320, Captain Diabetic. Right. Don't think about it. Didn't give a fuck. Don't even think about it. He tried to cook ribs in there and shit. Like he was trying to do revolutionary shit in prison, but he could never, because you need too much eating too much. that's too much attention

right where did he get rid of they would make ham sandwiches yeah but what but I mean to to to to least point I mean it was just

everybody was just you can only let you can only look oh your boy was dropping knowledge that's who everybody was listening to in prison Chuck D. No the guy up here from San Oakland

there was a girl her name was reader oh you're talking about too short too short we're really dropping knowledge too short baby all in them guts oh they were my brothers

Just don't go crazy. Wait, I think life is, wait, can you just go, what you went to top ten? That might even just be someone's own thing. Yeah, I could like try to find billboard or something. Yeah, just do, just do, do really, because life is too short came out in 88 as well. Like, that's what, that's what a year it was. Like, that was a great top ten. Don't get me wrong.

But that's when short came out. I mean, it was, it was a time, dude. You just educated me tonight, bro, because I didn't think about it like that. Also, 88 was, 87 was the other album in prison that was huge. There were two albums. There was a black album and a white album. The black album was, don't be cruel. And the white album was, no, the white album was, uh, welcome to the jungle.

Oh, oh, you're talking about the gun, guns and roses. All you heard in prison was Guns and Roses or, for the love of a girl named Francis. What's the name again? sang that. I just had it the other day for Lee. Who played for the love of a girl named Frank. When that came on, black people would lose their minds in prison. Club Nouveau. Oh, my God.

Club Nouveau. You are I do shows with that guy. Are you serious? Are you serious? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why you treat me so bad? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, tremendous shit.

Look at all these rumors. We opened up for that the night with that. But it was not, let me ask you a question. There's two rumors on YouTube. There's Club Nuvo rumors and the Timex Social Club rumors. Yeah. The one might, the original was, excuse me, Timex Social Club, but it's the same producer, same guy, Jay King.

Now, they made a went back, he went back as Club Nouveau and did a rumors joint. Because sometimes what happens is artists re-record their own stuff to try to get back control of it. You know what I mean? There's like weird legal stuff. stuff that goes along with it. So sometimes if you re-record your own stuff, there's stuff you can do with it, you know what I mean? But Timex Social Club was original.

It was original rumors. But it was the same lead guy that went on to create Club Nouveau that did lean on me and all this and that. So it's the same entity. Same entity. All right, so you release your first down in 88, my brother? 88. No cassettes before that, sell them a chunk of cars.

Nah, we wasn't like that. No, we wasn't, no, we wasn't, no, you know. Now, you know what, we were lucky. We had got hooked up with, there was a guy from our neighborhood that was an established producer, Herbie Lovebug, that had already created the group, Saw and Pepper. So he brought us behind Saw and Pepper. We used to dance behind them, and we used to be in their videos and stuff. And, you know, he got us our record deal.

And so, you know, we tried to come up with a catchy name. like originally our names was Kid Cool Out and Playboy but we shortened that to kid and play you know what I mean? As you know kind of in the vein of salt and pepper so you know you got to be talented

but you got to be lucky and I think we were both you know and then Let me ask you something off the fucking record here everybody totally up to work. Everybody in their life has different crushes. You live your life and you go

if I could have had her Right. The big chick from salt and pepper, I would translate to Muslim. You're talking about salt? The big one. The big one. Right. Used to be big.

She's slimmed. Yeah, she used to be a thick Jamaican. She throw me crazy for years. That big, thick, black chick. Well, you know what? I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. You would, well, you know what?

We're actually getting ready to do a television project with Salt and Pepper, like, in the next three weeks. Well, they have, like, the hip-hop kids, and she's on it. Yeah. She's on it. mother than one of the girls. Exactly. She was married to Tretch. She was. Well, I don't know if she ever married to Tretch. She had a baby with Tretch.

But yeah, she's going to be out here in a few weeks. So I would love to introduce me. First of all, that's Sandy. That's Papp. That's my homegirl. When we all hang out and we're on tour together, you know, me and her kick it. You know what I mean? That's my drinking partner. That's, you know, that's my fun. Now, the DJ died. No, no, no, no. No, we've still got the DJ. That's DJ Spinderella. She's beautiful, too.

And the little one's got a voice that's gold. Yeah. The little one, you could feel her warmth on the microphone. When she sings, what a man? Yeah. Drives me crazy. Nah. She drives me crazy.

I'm saying, so you got to come out. We got, we got shows out here. We're going to do this new VH1 show with them. So, you know, come out, yeah, come out, meet them. You know what I'm saying? They would love, they, you know what I'm saying? I can't control myself around the sisters. Trust me, they'll control you.

They know what's up. The original Cuban comes out. No, no, no, no, no doubt. But like I said, Sandy's Jamaican, so she knows what's up. She's Jamaican like, like my family. So, yeah, but the cool thing is like now, you know, we've been on this. I love the 90s tour, like the last year and a half. And a lot of these dates are with salt and pepper, vanilla ice, bar bass.

How big are these things? Tone Loak, if you don't want to be. Oh, my gosh. What, Microsoft? Like $7,000, $8,000, whatever. I'm sure it's all people my age and a little bit older, like early, like late 27 minutes. Man, let me tell you, 30s, 40s, 50s, man. Really?

I mean, 8,000 in Austin, 14,000 in Phoenix. You know, we're going all over the place, man. Missoula, Montana, South Dakota. Man, we just came from, we just came from Worcester Mass and Bangor, Maine. And that was with Kid and Play, Nauty by Nature, Montel Jordan, Cisco. Cisco was on that show. Biz Marquis I think

Tone Loak was on that show So yeah I mean You know first of all You know The 90s is hot right now For whatever Reason and not just with You know people

I mean like young people are into the 90s Because they can click back and look You know I mean my kids are just like They're fascinated with that era And my son wants all my clothes from the 90s And you know what I mean Something about it So I mean you know

We kind of have to rock it And I mean And pretty much the industry is like, you know, who's ever alive, you know, we'll pay you to tour. So, I mean, they just, I just on the way here, I switch between the 80s on, you know, I have Sirius in the call. So you have the 80s, 90s, studio 54 radio. Yeah, shade 45. Lithium. Right.

And I listen to. Backspin. With the other one, Ozzy's Bone Yard. I just go from, from, I got five stations. the 90s covers everything the 90s gives me what kind of stuff SWV yeah I get those

those are my other sisters in the 80s today I heard let me be the one Exposé out of Miami You know you hear all this shit And that's good stuff Oh my God and tonight I heard We do those shows too

Those freestyle shows Like that Sal from the Fever does freestyle shows so we'll be on a bill Kid and player be on a bill with like Judy Torres Expose Stevie B T-K-A

You know Come baby Come baby baby Gong Well that's You know That's It's just

It's just fun music man It's just like You know Nobody was tripping You're just trying to get bitch That was way before Colors came No no

Colors came out in 88 That's right Yeah colors came out in 88 That's right That's right That's right It's funny how I heard tonight

That Saxon And UFO Went on a sample tour And they did so well. Even without the guitar player, Michael Schengler, that they had to reschedule a bunch of fucking shows again.

And that shows me there's a vacuum in music. There's a big fucking vacuum in music because if all these bands are getting together, I mean, the fucking next tour, the summer thing went down the tubes. Led Zeppelin's not getting back to the time. That was the rumor.

Right. Through the millions. They went back. But how much money they must got? They must have so much motherfucker money. You know what I'm saying? They even said ISIS would give them half their weapons. I know. Led Zeppler and Led Zeppel said, we ain't getting back together, Doug. They say he ain't got no money.

Chippey Pan's can't resurrect the devil. Robert plans too old. Yeah, Robert plans like I got... John Bond and don't give a fuck. I have several castles yet now. Or have several castles. These motherfuckers wouldn't even break down. Like I was talking a friend of mine the other day. He said, he called

me and said, how come half this music? And on iTunes. I go, what are you looking for? Because I'm looking for Deaf Leppard. I can't find Def Leppard. I go, bro, I think Led Zeppelin just went on a year ago. Dude, they got so much money. They shut it down.

And they're just like, if you want us on iTunes, you want us on Apple Music, you want us on title. Like, you got a, you got a pay, man. Like, you know what I mean? And I mean, they are already, you know, they got castles, man. They got castles. And look, I used to hear there was a guy. There was one dude. on in the doors that would would fuck shit up because he he would you know when they when when

catac and all these things want to come and license their shit for commercials and shit you know there who had enough money and he was just like no he said jim wouldn't want us to do this and he fucking shut the shit down and so when you can't get the doors what do you do you go get that le le lelele londle they did right so they don't got a tour they don't got a tour how much you think they got for that they got millions for that So they're just like, man, you know what I mean? Like when you get, but that's, to me, I mean, but that's why I love, that's the power of music. You know what I mean?

And not just them. I mean, obviously those, those bands are amazing and incredible and have been for a long time. But man, you know, listen, you know, watch television or go online. I mean, you know, they link in music, and particularly in terms of hip hop. I mean, they throwing that music up there all the time, man. I mean, I've got, you know, I'm, you know, our music. has been part of, you know, advertising campaigns, man. It's, it's, yeah, it's cool.

It's cool to get paid 25 years or 20 years after you wrote some shit. That's cool. But, you know, it almost fits, though, that cycle. You know, these, you know, these advertising executives are like Lee's age, you know what I mean? And that's the shit they grew up on. And they're just like, hey, when they're thinking of these advertising campaigns and these things are like, hey, man, these are the songs they think of, the songs that they grew up with. Wrong?

No, absolutely. And that's, and that's what we wanted, like, we were talking. how they don't really party but they would go and spend a night and get buy tickets to a concert how big are these festivals now Bonnaroo and all these music festivals are huge I just Jamie was just at Rock on the Range

and I think Metallica closed it out or was one of the main bands Sam Garden was supposed to be there Friday bro these I love the 90s dates dude they come in dressed with 90s gear and the hammer pants and the thing and the dokey rope chains and

it's a thing man like they they got you know what I mean all the girls from the office came ah bitch remember remember remember 92 we was this shit bitch let's go five six bitches you know what I'm saying

it's like it's a thing is hammer on tour were you guys off no he's not he's not but he should I mean I heard he's doing his thing I mean he but he totally fits in that in that realm I mean we did oh god back in the days we did so many shows

with hammer puts on a great show you know he was always a you know what I mean his his shit was like wrangling brothers there's always people moving and you know oh oh you know what I said like it was dope it was it was dope so it's great to have a lot of people moving up on stage but when you see the bill at the end of the week got paying you're like God yeah damn yeah that's why me and me and play was like man we're gonna we're gonna do we're gonna do this ourselves we're gonna be

the whole keep it tight we did me and play we'd like the Simon and Garfunkel a rap but you You know what, bro, this idea, whoever put this thing in 90s together was very smart. How he did it. You guys started in small venues. You built momentum. Listen, the summer, there's tons of work for everybody. I watched that show on the 70s, on CNN. They had a show about music in the 70s.

It's still on YouTube and shit. In 1973, they did $2 billion or $2 million, I think it was $2 billion dollars worth of ticket sales in this country. But in 1973, Everybody was on the road from Mountain John to hog. Oh, yeah. That's where you got your money. I mean, but, you know, it's always, it's always been that way. It's always been that way.

Like, that's how you get, because, you know, you got to wait around to get your money from the record company. And they're going to, and they're going to fight you on it. And they're going to battle you on it. And they're going to charge you back for a gang of shit. Where are you going to get your money, money that you're going to live and survive on? Motherfucking road, man. You got to get on the road. And so, yeah, I mean, it was that way back then.

And, you know, it's that way now and to the point where, you know, I'm sure you and your audience knows this, that, that, you know, these record companies now, they do those 360 deals now because record sales are so down that, you know, if a record company feels like they put you out, like, well, we don't make record sales, you know, the way we used to, we give the music away. So I want some of your touring money. I want some of your merchandising money. I want, boom, that's why that's a 360 deal. Like, I want some of whatever, like, what do you say? Like, Frank White? like anyone I want a I want a piece right that's how they do it that's how the shit works today back in the days we didn't do it like that the record company was the record company our torn money that was our money and then we'll come back and fight you for that you know later on but you know let me ask you this my brother so you release your first time in 88 when did the movie start knocking um like that following year whose idea was house party was this your idea no no not at all um the the the the the the

The writer, director of House Party was a cat named Reginal Hudlin, Reggie Hudlin. His brother, Warrington, Hudlin, was a producer. And I used to see Reggie, Reggie was a video director

in the late 80s. And I used to see him out at the clubs, man. He'd be like, hey, what's up? I say, hey, what's up, dude, whatever, and whatever. And he would step to me because he wanted to, he wanted to shoot some of our early music videos. Because we, you know, we were doing, like, you know, kind of quirky, kind of cool-looking shit or whatever.

But we had a guy. You know, we had this white dude we used to use. So, you know, we looked like, I was like, no disrespect, you know, but, you know, we're cool, we cool. You know, we got a guy that we kind of vibe him with, you know, whatever. He's like, all right, bet, bad, bet. And then one time he stepped in me says, yo man, I got a movie script, man. I wrote a movie. And I think y'all, you and play would be great for it and blah, blah, blah.

I was like, all right, you know, fast forward. I get the script. You know, back in those days, it was my job to read shit. You know what I mean? like play and her you know Herbie our producer manager like they never went to college

I mean not like that but you know what I'm saying I was considered the braini actors it was like you know I'm like kid read it you know and tell us what you know what it is

you know what I'm saying every crew every crew of a nigga got a superpower like this is this motherfucker he reads this motherfucker kills this motherfucker steals

you know what I'm saying so we think so my job was to read so I read So I read the script and honestly I was like, it wasn't the superpower of reading. So I read it and I was like it wasn't all the way there, but I was like, I said it's close enough that we can bring it. Like it was a little corny, but I was like, I was like, I said, we'll bring it there. Like I thought maybe out of 100% I thought it was like 70%.

And I said, I said we can get it to 90. and if we get it to 90 then you know we're we'll be all right so I told him I said they say what I said hey what happened with that thing you read I was like I said yeah

I said it was good I said I think we should do it so they gave us like a little I don't know like a little screen test or whatever me and play whatever see if we had like chemistry and shit so we you know we're in this little small office you know New Line cinema wasn't

shit back then they was like one little goofy office on 14th street like down the block from nels you know like 14th and 8th you know i mean they wasn't they wasn't shit they all they had out at that time was freddie cougar they had one freddy cougar movie out and so they were starting to bubble a little bit so they thinking nana nana anyway long story short they want to do it but we still never believed it until we like landed in los angeles you know what i mean before they were like yeah whatever they got the fucking movie get out of yeah right who wasn't the first movie Who was in the first house party?

You got Kid and Played. You got Tisha Campbell. You got A.J. Johnson. You got Martin Lawrence. You got Full Force. You got Robin Harris. You got John Witherspoon. You know what I mean?

Where's A.J. Johnson? A.J. Johnson. You know what A.J. Johnson is doing? Well, there's two A.J. Johnson. It's a little one. Right. You're talking about that guy. Yeah.

There's two A.J. Johnsons. There's a female, A.J. Johnson. A real pretty girl. That's right. The brown skin. Where is she? Oh, she's out here? You know what she did?

she got into the fitness and wellness world. She is beautiful. She is beautiful. Br, br. Bro, I seen her. She used to do the main room coming once in a while. I saw one time I found love with AJ Johnson. This is 98, 97. No, no, no, bro. She's, she's that, remember she was in baby boy? She was in something. She was in a few things. But, but she kind of, she, she got off the thing like those, but into this whole kind of, you know, wellness thing. she's been on a lot of these reality shows

where she was she had to get Lindsay Lohan she was like her life coach you know she's into that life coaching thing she's dope with that you know you know Tisha you know Tisha Campbell come on she's at everything my wife and kids Martin

blah blah blah um yeah man I mean Robin motherfucking Harris one of my mentors loved them with all my heart never got to meet him you Hammerstone. All right.

Let me sip this thing. So, you know, we do, you know, the first house party. You know what I'm saying? You know, he plays my father. So, you know, you know how it goes on a movie set. You know, you spend a lot of time with each other, you know, mostly not doing filming or whatever, you know, so he's just talking. So he wanted to tell me a story one time.

So he said, man, let me tell you this story, man. I was trying to talk to this girl, man. She wouldn't invite me over to her house for dinner. you know, to meet her parents. So, you know, as he said, I'm all nervous and shit. So, you know, I'm going to impress a parent. So, you know, I'm on my best behavior. You know, I want to do the right thing or whatever like that.

And everything's going well. You had a nice dinner. And then the mother came out, brought out some dessert. They had some pie. And then it had, you know, it had some pie. And then it got to the point it was there was a last piece of pie. And the last piece of pie. So the father told Robin, he said, man, go on, man, Robin, go on get that.

get that last slice of pie. And Robert said, he said, no, no, no, sir, I'm fine. I had enough, man. Thank you. Thank you so much, my son. He said, man, Robert, get that piece of pie, man. Will you get that piece of pie? Mama then cooked the pie.

You hear, with my daughter, you're here. We had a great dinner man. Had that piece of pie. He said, no, sir, I'm, I'm cooked. Boy, will you eat that piece of pie? Go on eat that piece of pie, all right? This delicious pie. You know, has a pie.

Have some more. Pats or pat. That last piece of pie. And finally, Robin was like, okay, all right, sir. Thank you. All right. I'll have that last piece of pie. So he eat the last piece of pie.

Then down on the line, down the line, they washing the dishes. Mother, father in the kitchen washing the dishes. And Robin got to go to the bathroom, but you got to go to the bathroom. You got to go past the kitchen to go to the bathroom. So as Robin going to the bathroom goes past the kitchen, but the parents are, and then he hears the father say,

can you believe that nigger ate the last piece of pie? Shit. Robin Harris, man, was so good. Can you believe that nigga ain't the last piece of mine? The last three or four times through the right thing has been on. You fucking beg me. I've stayed up and watched it because of Robin Harris, that little scene under the fucking umbrella.

No. When he's with the other two black dudes. Yeah. This shit kills me with the Jamaican dude. They goofing on him. And he's sweet dick Willie and all that shit. Can you believe that? And let me tell you, hey, and guess what?

Just kicking it with him as a person. He's as cool as you thought he was like he used to you know what I mean He's so he was so dope like You know on that movie house party like it was so like rugged right like we would literally get like paychecks You know like every other week like you get a paycheck So I would get I got a paycheck He got a paycheck and he said he wanted to Take me to cash our paychecks

But he took he wanted to take me to the best bank where he used to be a security guard. Okay? To show him like, hey, motherfucker. So yeah, I'm a couple of the day with kids. You're a Casey, motherfucker. Yeah, Cassie's checks. You know what I'm saying?

He used to drive a 5.0. And he had a pistol under the seat at all times. And he would talk shit to the cops, the cops, you know what I mean? At the light company, he's like, ah, shut up. You know, I'm like, he talks shit to him. And he was older than us. Like, he had like, you know, he probably, probably had like 10, 15 years on most of us.

Talking about me, play, Martin, Tommy Davidson, Tommy Ford, Joe Torrey, Ricky Harris, all, you know, all these guys. We were in that same thing. So we all looked up to him. And I tell you, one time, we used to play basketball together, too. One time we were playing ball somewhere in Burbank. And, you know, we got into it with some, you know, some other crews, man, some, you know, some white dudes thought they was all this and that or whatever. and Robin he stepped out boy he went

he went to the car and came back and came back with that pistol with his you know Jim shorts on and all that man he had the pistol down and he said

now what what y'all talking about you know and then they started going hama now how ma'ma now he's like yeah motherfucker

that's what I thought and then you know what I'm saying like he was he was that guy man he looked out for us like he taught us a lot you know he didn't you know

sugar cold nothing I mean but he was a good dude man like what was he from Chicago right yeah exactly Chicago yeah not I mean he came out to you know what I'm saying like he went to high school in LA but he you know he had them Chicago in Chicago you know you like I said you know he and I he and I would talk because we spent a lot of time you know I mean we talk about his you know his wife was you know his kids and whatever like that and and and he was and you know what else he would do too he

would fall asleep at the drop of a dime I we used to think he was like narcoleptic because like he would fall asleep like he would fall asleep like in between like you doing right now. I'm not falling asleep. I'm just looking at you. I'm an amazement. I said you do House Party one. Yeah.

After that, you blew up already by then? Yeah. Yeah, that was a big deal. And then you went, how quick do they do the house party too? Like, real quick. Real quick. Yeah, like, yeah, like real quick. And the problem, and the thing was, I mean, for that,

look, everybody benefited, you know what I'm saying? but they didn't have an option on us beyond that first movie. So that first movie, they got us like really cheap. The second one, that's when we had. We stuck them up, you know, comparatively. You know what I mean? And yeah, it was hot.

You know how it goes. You know, the first one hot. House party hot, you got to do House party two. You know? And then, you know, then do a House Party three and then do a class act. So, you know, that was a, that was a hot, that was a hot little movie run right there, you know. But, you know, God, I mean, and, I mean, I think, I think I hope that's why the film still hold up because, man, we just having a lot of fun and a lot of good people involved.

You could tell. You could tell. Yeah, I mean, I mean, come on, Joe, you've been on a gang of movie sets. You know, you know when motherfuckers are having fun and when they ain't. Right. And you know when you got a, when it's not a fun situation, you know, like, all right, well, I got a. I got to summon something else because that, that energy ain't here. Other times, you're like, oh, these motherfuckers, oh, these motherfuckers are jamming.

It ain't going to be no thing to get to where I need to get to. That's what it was with us. It was just like, oh, man, it's something, you know, it ain't like we making Citizen Kane. You know, man, we're doing house party movies. But, you know, people come to depend like, hey, man, a house party movie got to be something. We got to have some fun. We need some dancing. We need some, you know, we need some pretty girl.

and woo-woo and whatever whatever and kid and play is going to go through some shit you know like like you know like homeboys do you know that's a lot of things to this day so many people come up you know either both of us or individually and they're like man I said me and you know

I had a home boy in high school and they said they used to call us kid in play he said like we type and that's that's what that's That's what it's become. You know what I mean? Like, motherfuckers said like, nah, man,

don't try to, don't try to get in between them. Don't try to separate them dudes. That motherfucker's tight like hit and play. Like, that's what it's come to represent. You know what I mean? Like, motherfuckers stick together,

whatever, you know, up, down, whatever, whatever. But, nah, man. How are you gonna get between? You can't get between kid and Blake. Who you're gonna get between you next week?

Peanut Butter and jelly? Huh? I don't think so. Wait, I got another funny story, though. Hold up. Wait, you can look this up.

We're going on at the halftime here. Tony Bennett, brother. Hit it. I got something for you, though. Watch. Okay, Jesus, Christ. Tony Bennett. This is halftime, you know what I'm saying?

I'm going to freestyle. It's a beautiful song. I'm going to freestyle over this, man. Me and two chains are going to freestyle over this. I want to be around to pick up the pieces. Well, you need some more stars or what? You're over there throwing them away. enough, sorry.

It ain't enough. You ate three out of six, I threw. Yeah, that's a... Let's go. Let's go. What do you mean? You're not? Last time we ate five, 200th.

You got to be... You got a double. You got to eat the double. What are you doing? It's Monday night. It's Memorial Day weekend. What's the problem here? Dube, doby, do...

Eat the double. That's good for you. You only ate three of them. That's it. Doby, do me. That's 375. On top of the chocolate and the... Who can?

Bo-be-d-do-do. You'll learn. That misery loves company. Wait and see. I want to be around. You like Nat King Colt? To see how he does it. I like the platter.

Flawless. Like those flawless vocals. Like him. This is super. Flutter. Let's see if the puzzle fits. So fine What's going on with those stars over there?

You got to eat them. Wait, you see how you bent that note? I'm saving him. Eat him right now, though. Let's go. It's training tonight. Let's go. We're in training.

You ain't three stars. You can eat five more and nothing will happen to you. You're still safe. When somebody breaks your heart like you. Oh shit. As I'm talking about you. Bad motherfuckers always. Turn up to the end.

Let me get some shoutouts. Mani Costa. Who loves you? My main man, Lorne Rosenca. I got you. Trapper Welton. Uncle Tony. Jay Zan.

Cleo. My man, Berger, the Armenian. Bob Linguis, Amanda Guthrie, and my main man. Call, man. Don't forget, Ice House,

working out with Uncle Joey. Thursday night, 10 bucks. You go down there. some chicken wings you got a beer and you go to fuck home how's the wing kick open the wings are delicious

you kick off the fucking Memorial Day weekend with your uncle Joey I got a list I go up there we talk about it and everybody goes home half we all learn something you understand me number two so now it's 1995 a number another get down

sound of the fucking drunk anyway wait before I forget I want to have you look this up and then we'll come back to it because it's something that I'm that I've been thinking about but I'm working on I'm kind of working it

into my stand-up but top 100 duos and I saw kid and play came in on that list but I was a little

perturbed at what number we came in on like 50 best on Rolling Stone is that a good one like top 100 duos digital

maybe this one Digital dream No no not even music duos The top duos Not even music duos Like Like even music duels Like yeah like peanut butter and jelly

So you include that list Kid and Play Like Batman and Robin Yeah That's fucking historical It is But I was still like You know

I was flattered And then I was like Wait a minute They are ahead of us Like peanut Like peanut butter and jelly I didn't have a problem with, but there was like a couple of other ones I was like.

In today's world, with everybody bitching, do you know the accomplishments you young black motherfuckers made? Do you have any idea of the accomplishments? I always say, under the circumstance. Listen, I always use this as an example, no offense. When you look at the cover of Dr. Dre's chronic, that picture of him,

on that day, he could have been president of the United States on that day. Look at his fucking face. where you guys were doing you started from fucking listen listen dog oh gods nobody knew what the fuck you were doing

nobody know what the fuck you we didn't either we didn't either I'm sitting back now thinking of my life in those days and I was still stuck in the early 80s I was still crossing over there was some of the shit I liked and some I liked

white lines yeah I liked you know I like no shit yeah I liked all those Those funky things I like. Like that expose type shit. Exposet, I'm just using as an example. Yeah, yeah.

Cover girls. That was fucking... Exposé was fucking radio shit. I'm talking about the shit you motherfuckers are doing early on when I was going over to the cop. Let's get it. Get it together. Let's get it together.

Like real... There was a lot of cool. Lee, what's going on with those stars? That's an orphan name. I had four stars. That's okay. That's fucking... That's 500 Lee.

Are you fucking kidding me tonight? You got to do two grand. tonight. Lewis Gomez is coming on Wednesday and he's looking for blood. He's saying that fucking you're leaving in a habit. 7 nights a week, I'll be shitting money. But you didn't need 2,000, 7 nights a week. You didn't need

stars last night. I'm doing that. I'm hurting. You didn't eat 9. 7 nights. Stop your crying. You're doing 2 G's tonight. It's over. What the fuck you think we're talking about? Right. What? Did that? That didn't come up? You were a 20-year-old guy. I saw a list. Gomez is coming on. You're going to do 25-100.

You're going to die on Wednesday. You've got to eat at least 2200 tonight. You're going to piss gelatin this week. I'll die either way. I'm still nibbling, man. You're going to piss gelatin this week. I don't want to piss. I'm already pissed as it is.

So you've got to go see a doctor then. But you've got to eat these stars, dog. Stop telling yourself stories. You're cutting yourself short. I'm going to take another little nibble. Yeah, just don't worry about nothing. Keep nibbling. Yeah, but there was one list that I saw, like, top 100,

duo or whatever. Like, so you compared to Simon and fucking Garfinkel. Yeah, yeah. They were way up there. Yeah, they was way up there. We were like number 77. Who gives a fuck? You know how a story?

We're like number 77. Yeah, but you know what I mean? The competitor in me was just like, really? What number did you want to be, though? I don't know. You know what I'm saying? No, tell me. I don't know.

Top 20? Whatever. Right? I don't know. Right. Ain't wrong with that. But you know what? You're right.

When you think about it, you just like, you know, because like I said, this is the same list that peanut butter and jelly. Like if I'm on the same list as peanut butter and jelly, and that's probably pretty good. you know what else is on that the best list like whatever oh i i'm i don't see this one i just top top 100 put in top 100 duos that's what i did you did and what came up nothing let's see let's try this one was i that high did i just imagine this one maybe okay here we go.

Tom and Jerry. There we go. There we go. Hans Sello and Chabaca. Bert and Ernie. So yeah, Scooby Doo and Shagga. Jesus Christ. Scooby-Doo is above milk and cookies.

I don't believe that. I'm on the same list with milk and cookies. I don't think this is like an official. This is like people can vote on it. With no one of us kidding play. Let's find it. Hamburgers and fries is on it. This is a good list.

to be on. I'm telling you, I know I saw it. I was like, I know we're there somewhere. Let's see here. I think we might need to get the church people to get on it. Let's see. Salt and pepper. Yeah, we've got to get you back on there.

Oh, that's right. Lucy and Desi got to be on. Yeah, we was up in there. One of them lists, we was like number 77 or something. But it was pretty, you know, I don't know. We'll get you back up there. Yeah, it's a company. We'll get you back up there.

It's just a vote. Yeah, tell the audience, look out, look out for that. Vote for you, boy. What were you studying for when all this shit came at you? What were you looking to do? I mean, this school, you went to this high school, Bronx School of Science. Right. You had to get picked to go in there?

He had to take a test. You know, you know, there was, back then, if you wanted to go to one of the specialized public high schools, there was three of them. It was Stuyvesant, Bronx Science, and Brooklyn Tech. So you had to take a test. and depending on how you did on the test, the top kids went to Stuyvesant, then it was Bronx Science, and then Brooklyn Tech was the number three.

It was number three. So I made it to Bronx Science. And I mean, a thing that was, you know, I graduated from there, but then I went to college right down the block at Lehman College. And I was an English literature major. And at the same time, you know,

trying to, you know, kind of do our thing, you know we did a lot of things man like before we ended up you know as kid and play we were doing like a lot of things man we were just you know you know and then we then we just kind of figured it out like all right man it's going to be the two of us you know and and like everybody knew what their job was you know like play play has a great artistic eye and you know so i so how we look and how we're fashioned and what the album covers look like and all that artwork shit and all that you do that because i don't know nothing about that what i do is i write the songs that's what i do so you know that that made us a good team and then you got to you know you

know you still got to trust one another and then like i said we had the home boy that had produced salt and pepper in him already and he was hot so the timing was right you know what i'm saying and then you know the the movies get you here they get you there you know i mean like then after that it's like Then sometimes it's, it's, sometimes it's a little tough because you're not, you're not that same hungry cat no more. You know what I mean? You're like, you know, we're out here. We're out here in Cali. And, you know, we're smashing.

And, you know, we're getting Superman high and, you know, feeling yourself or whatever, you know. So, you know, we always had to almost kind of shock ourselves back into that. that animal we used to be you know what I mean? Because it's hard man because you know we start doing good you know what did I heard I heard Denzel say this

when he was on the the award circuit he said ease is a greater threat to progress than hardship he said ease is a greater threat when you get easy

what you do you get soft when we're up against it when it's hard When we ain't got no options, what do we do? We figure that shit out. We do it. You know, somebody, you know, somebody let you slide on some shit, man. That's when we, you know, that's when we ease up.

Ease is a greater threat to progress than hardship. No, let me ask you something. Look at it. I mean, you started rapping live shows, the whole thing. You probably did it a little bit then. When did you make, when did you decide when damn it got on a thought? Because I met you in 99, maybe, at the improv. with yeah with Pablo I was gonna ask you when's gonna you know what I mean Pablo we

know each other because of Pablo Francisco no but you were with the manager that's how we met he was with our worthy worthy you were worthy I was talking to worthy you came by and asked me if I knew you I said no we shook hands yeah asked me about my accent we started talking oh but we were I think we want yeah but yeah I was with him but it was it was on a I know me and you just do a lot of Pablo shows a lot of shit with Pablo yeah I did his CD in Houston still love him I love that guy

I love that guy Don't see him enough I know When does anyone see Popper Francisco But when you do bump into him Bro you get this warm feeling in you You do But like when is it

You know what I'm saying Like I almost feel like Like like you know what I'm saying Like like And you know I don't want to be crazy But it's weird like You know what I'm saying Like do we know he's alive

You know what I'm saying Yeah yeah But you know what I'm saying He's out there every week Yeah man He's one of those guys that still travels 47 weeks of the year.

He's America's quarter horse. He does improvs. He does Charlotte. He does funny bones. He's out there. And those guys you can't control that fucking animals. They have no children.

No. And you know what? The guy was, you know, he was always great to me. And he taught me a lot. This is when I, you know, that's when I first started, when I first started jumping up

and trying to do it. And you know what I mean? Didn't know what I was doing. So I learned a lot from him, you. I remember we used to do that. The old, I remember you and me at the old Brea improv. The old one that we used to fucking rock. And just trying to learn.

Next to the movie theater. Yeah. Just trying to learn how to do this, how to do this thing. Yeah, before they moved it to new fly shit. You know? You know, from 95 guys to 2005. Yeah. I was out seven nights or eight.

Like my life changed. for 10 years. The first time I took a week off is when the longest year I got released, which was 12 years ago this week, was when I said, okay, I did a movie now. I'm not going to go out five nights a week no more.

It took another two years to get off the blow. I got out of the store for a while to adjust my mentality. I just hoard around town, and now I'm back at the store. You, man, can I ask you something? Yeah, no. Man, and you know, I go way back with Pauli and all this and that man, but man, I never, never liked the story.

And I, and I never, and I never perform there. But, you know me, I respect guys that do, but man, I was just like, man, I just, the energy. Is your dislike for it? Let me answer an honest question because we're brothers old school. Is your dislike for it because they don't give you spots? Or from the first time you walked in there, you go, you know what? this place ain't for me no not that they didn't give me spots

like they would that that that you know I'm saying that that wasn't an issue it was it was doing it and then trust me I used to go there long before I became a comic I would go there with Chappelle and Martin you know what I mean I was the I was the funny guy

in the crew you know just checking and taking notes and you know what I'm saying that kind of deal so man I was up in that place for a long long long long time I remember all the hot girls that motherfuckers used to holl at you know what I'm saying like you said worthy and them used to be up in there and you know they were smashing smashing them waitresses and all this and that and you know we was cool with

everybody and and and as a social place it was especially then you know in the 90s it was in the 90s it was awesome I went there the last night did you but here's the deal I'm too old to go to every night there's a bunch of young cats yeah so I try to go and I do Brian Monarch shows on Saturday 7 o'clock main room I live by 9 And then Tuesday I'd call in Like when I went out

A workout a little bit But they didn't work out No more It's sold out You gotta go down There with polished material And shit Because they put you in between

Chappelle And fucking Joe Rogan Oh they got Cats are rolling up like that Oh yeah Cats are rolling up like that During the week This week though

Right So you can't even go up there No Tuesday It's sold out to the bill There's people In there from England Who listened to the podcast

Remember dude You used to do His Fat Tuesday There My God Tories Tories I did the first time

I did it Richard prior rolled in there and sat in that Mitzie box though $35 he got me out of them Monday night Latino night right and you know what I used to do the black rooms I did great for like three times and then I died on freaky Monday yeah at the improv at the improv yeah I died a slow death and I said no more black rooms no and for four or five because those those deaths are excoriating well the guy in front of me said nigger so he was white

and who was in the room Friday was in the room Chris Tucker said get that motherfucker off the stage so now there was no now they brought up another white dude essentially if I was the host that night I would have brought up a black dude

right to say something about what happened and bring me up I could have said something cleanse the palate but I think the DJ let me let me throw no but those guys they're against you too this I'm saying them hosty dudes

like them cats to be hosting over the years. They weren't thinking. Not just not thinking. They want a train wreck. They want a thing. That's why that's another reason why I don't fuck with that sometimes either. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're going to get your fucked up intro.

They're going to do 15, 20 minutes in front of you on some ratchet shit. And then, you know what I mean? And then bring you up on a smooth tip. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, what are you? So, I mean, look, out of any club, any place you like, you got to be like, as a creative like what am I gaining

what am I gaining what am I gaining what am I getting and what do I got to do to win here whatever I'm saying like and like you look it's like any club like you're going there's like

oh man you know what it ain't for me you know what I'm saying it ain't for me I know this listen but that's what I'm saying I mean there's 10 clubs across the country there's 10 clubs across the country

that I don't even walk into because I get the same feelings as you, my brother. Right. You know, uh, I could count them up.

Dude, I love the laugh factory. I love, I love, you know what I'm saying? You know, I love the improv on, you know what I'm saying?

I have no problem with the California rooms. I can't lie to you. Dude, come on. How many, how many, how many, how many,

not even clubs? How many converted bars have we done? How many Willie Barsena and Jeff Garcia and Sebastian Satina Satina and Robert Zapata and Rick Martinez shows that we've done. Like, it ain't about, you know, we've gotten up and, you know, I get up in gully spot.

I get up in gully spot. I get up in gully spot. I taped the pilot for Robertsa Potter eight years ago. And every time I see him, he goes, dog, it's going to be done pretty soon. And I'm like, I wouldn't want that shit now if you're fucking, who are you going to sell that to now, eight, ten years later? We did all those. No, no, no, no.

Listen, bro, I paid my dues just like you. We were there. We were at the same rooms on the time. Tuesday night for 35 hours, bro. Yeah. And a burrito and a taco. I used to be in those rooms with your fuck yeah. Fucking Casa Latina.

Fucking the, Willie Barsena's room. Where they threw a knife at Willie. Tortillas. Tortillas. Mora. And then it changed a thousand times, the names. People have no idea the fucking. Yeah, man.

I would switch it up. These one-nighters, yeah. It was training guys in those days for me because in those days he would do a Willie Barcena room. From 8 to 10. Rudy Moreno. Then Rudy would tell you to swing by. We had the ice house on lock.

At 10.30, it could be the brave bull, too, in O'Hambra. And then you would have an 1145 at the company store, which is going to be late because Eddie Griffin was going to do three hours. But at least you picked up 40 and 35. You made $75. I put $20 in the gas tank and buy a gram a blow for $40 and I owe you $20. You know what I'm saying? So I can wake up and have cigarettes and breakfast in the morning.

Who the fucking thing you're dealing with Joey Bananas? Look here, I got a budget. My budget is budgetary. It was, bro, those rooms, I did that, listen, after 2007, all those little rooms shut down for a while. And, bro, I was starving, and I couldn't figure out. I'm not doing Coke, but I'm broke. How is this going on?

I go, oh, I'm living off residuals and weekends. You know what I'm missing? Those weekly shows. It started Monday nights You'd go up to Universal And what's the kid's name? Remember John Lovett still that is the day thing? No, no, no. This was way before John Blah.

Were you fucking with a ha-ha? No, no, no, no. Universal on Monday nights, the club is still there. I know what you're talking about. What's the crazy guy that used to book that? Ernie G. Monday night's 40. 40 bucks.

Across from the piano bar? You went there. Yes. You went in there, you picked up 40. You shot to the Latino line at the laugh factory. They paid your 25 Bevere check Right

Yeah you gotta come back And get that Yeah you gotta go back Then I go to the comedy store And get 10 minutes And go the fuck home in those days And then if you were really cool In those days

You did Monday 90 improv If you were white You went up before 10 to 9 Yeah So if you were white You got out of there

By 10 to 9 The first comic would do 6 minutes 6 minutes And then there was a two white Dude spots And then they put flavor in there and then they'd turn on black.

So they would have like me, Josh Wolf, David Tell would sprinkle that room with machine guns. And then a black dude would go up there and rip that fucking room apart. Then from there... Wait, was you doing it when a member of my man? Ah, they used to call him. Zoo. Zoo man. I was there with Zoo.

Zool man used to run it. He ran it before D-ray. Right. Oh, way before D-ray. This is 97. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Zuma. Zuma had a...

Corey Miller. Great kid. I send them my love. Yeah. If somebody knows him, tell him Joey Diaz. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We love Zuma.

I love that dude with all my heart. I don't, yeah. And then I used to go to the laugh factory and do Latino night for Gilbert Escobal. And then from there, I go to the comedy store. But if you, that's how you rocked on Monday night. You had to have a triple header. You had to do the store, the laugh factory and the fucking...

Right, but then somebody had a bar going. Somebody had a... Yeah, you got to pick up your $50. Barcena had a, you know what I'm saying? Ladies and gentlemen. Rick Martinez. People always talk about Rudy Moreno. I had to leave L.A.

Because I couldn't find work. Let me tell you some guys. I was doing, if I do the math now, I can't tell you. I was coping $60 a night in cocaine four to five nights a week. And my wife had no idea because I was. Right. Because the money never came up missing. I was picking up 20s.

50s, 75s, 82s, what's his name, would pay you, 57, but you always picked up 80 bucks a night. What's over there? What's in that bottle over there? Tequila. 80 bucks a night is fucking 400 bucks.

Yeah. And let's pretend. Is that tequila? Let's pretend. Half of that. Like, the Comedy Store pays you 15. I don't know if you people know that. When I go to the Comedy Store on Tuesday night, on a Wednesday, even back in 1990,

fucking seven they pay you $15 in those days the improv will pay you $27, $1750 and depending how long the fucking spot was and Laugh Factory would pay you $25 bucks on Monday night

but they made they paid you with a check a month later you'd be sitting there for that check doing a math going yeah I did three Latino nights I'm picking up 75 bucks and you're going to have one of your checks to 25 so this you had to make a living during one-nighters and there was

an abundance of them and every once in a while you pick up one for 300 you're like oh shit yeah somebody did like a baker's field corporate thing yeah no no no no you pick up one of those you bro I tell these guys

I picked up one one year dog December's my month right me to really rocking this town I always come through in December there's a god up there that goes you know what joey you suffered all year but December right right We're going to send you out in style.

One year I booked a non-union commercial 20 years ago walking in for another audition, and they gave me like $3,000 cash four days before Christmas. Two days shoot, two days shoot international buyer. You blew up with that. You know, bro, when you first get here and you're doing $15 spots, are you fighting your bumming cigarettes at the store, so you could borrow $20 from something? get a $20 and get a $5.

In those days, I could steal cigarettes from the gas station across the street right there. What, the arco? No, I'm thinking of the, I'm thinking of the laugh factory. It was down. No, it was way down. It was by the guitar center. Now it's a tire shop.

From 97 to about 99. I would go in there every morning. I would wait for the owner to walk out and pump gas. And I'd walk in there and put my hand behind the counter and take the other. Are there the cups over there? We have cups over there. Right right next to the fridge on the other side.

Uh-oh, sorry. Yeah, it looks like you're drinking out of the bottle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you don't mind, I don't. I don't drink that shit. That's somebody left out here, so I think she had the hurt, but don't worry about it. Tequila kills everything. I'm only teasing you so.

It's like an episode of Law & Order. Bang, bong. Yeah, no, no, no. It was a different fucking, so those, those, those, let me tell you something. Those, bro, those are the hustle day. Those shows. Those are hustle day. Those shows mix with the comedy store

Are you kidding me? That's like being a fighter I'm doing four fucking training sessions It's not that I don't respect Not that I don't respect the comedy store Like I know what that place means Like I mean I know what that place means And the annals of comedy but man

It doesn't work for you Doesn't work for listen Mitsy Shaw was walking past the main room one night She looked in the door and she saw An independent show This was way before Mitzie would She had a pass year. And she looked up on stage and Rudy

Moreno was that. She waited for Rudy to get off and she goes, I'm making your a regular angle. Calling for spots. The next week Rudy goes, I'm a regular, Joe. What do you think? I go, come on down, Rudy. Rudy gets a spot on a Wednesday night. His spot is at 9.45. Rudy shows up at

9.30 and there's five guys waiting to go on before Rudy. They're running late because some of the dice came in or something. I remember Rudy's sitting there for 15 minutes and going I'll never come back here again. And in the back of my mind, I was used to it down there.

Like, it had become a part of who I was. I would go down there to socialize, so whenever my spot came up. Yeah, you were ready for whatever. Sometimes I knew I wasn't going up. No. If Paul Mooney show up, what the fuck you might as well go to fuck home. Dice was there, and I saw Paul Mooney and go home.

Yeah, Joe Rogan. And sometimes they called. In those days, Rogan was doing 40, but any Griffin was doing three. Carlos was doing two. Come on. Come on. Mooney was doing one hour.

Eddie Griffin, I mean, come on, man. These motherfuck were going to go home. Dude, trust me. I used to have spots. When I see them motherfuckos, I'm like, yo, I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. It's funny how Dave Chappelle

started a trend of doing long sets. Let me tell you something, Lee. 99, 2000. Eddie Griffin would go on stage at 10 o'clock at night, and he would get off of 5 to 2. I mean. Can you imagine? That's crazy.

you and your girlfriend, Paul, on the Saturday, you call him and you're going to see Ron Punches, and you fly fucking down there, and you park your car, and you walk in there, and it's not Ron Funches, it's fucking Eddie Griffin at 10 o'clock. And at midnight,

Eddie's still on stage. Now, listen, I'm going to look in the aisle, Lee, and tell you something. At that day and age, I understood it. I understood what ego was. I understood all those things, so I didn't take it as personal. as love

other comics Hold up We're taking it No but that that But it It's shit ain't right No no no It wasn't not right

That's why he's bad for life Wait and I know you remember this How And who's a mentor of mine And an idol of mine As well Paul Mooney But I remember when Paul Mooney

Would come in there On the late night tip And his mission Was to drive every white person out of the showroom like summarily you know what I mean like

that was his you know what I mean he was on sometimes he came in he was on that tip like and he would work on each one and he would get up to go and you know what I'm saying and just hit him with

he was you know what I mean sometimes that was his goal like I'm going to drive each and every white person from here with my voice and thoughts. I guess he used to have to follow him for a year.

Oh, Mooney. You're looking at him. I learned more from that dude. No, I mean, I would always go down there. That would be, he's the man now. It would be Paul Mooney and Joe Diaz. I would sit back there and I, it would be 30, the set would be, excuse me, 20 minutes late.

And I'd sit there going, you know, first I got nothing to do tomorrow morning. In those days, I got up at 8 in the morning anyway. I would snort till 5 and sleep. I was tip top. I was a Marine. Oh, my gosh. Amazing. I would follow him.

I still got the lineups for a year. She put me behind them. And I learned. And one night... That is trial by fire. I kept telling the club in Miami. Why did you bring Paul Money down here? I think Paul money would do great.

And finally, they booked them. And I go, Paul, they got you in Miami. The improv? This was in Coconut Grove. Yeah, I know the one. I know that one. This is 2001. I know that one.

Yeah. But the Marinos and all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is 2000, 2001. Yeah, I get more money in there and I feature from. And he's having a rough week. It's the week that the Cubans sent the government to go get Elian Fernandez. So he kept going up on stage, like just he started ripping the Cubans, bro, right off the bat.

I'm howling in the back. But those Cubans, they weren't taking the ride. No, it's some kind of way. He was going. You Cuban's got your nigger wake up call. walking around thinking that to everybody shit

you motherfucker's got your nigga wake up call manana talking all this nonsense and shit they came in here and took Elion and that's what he used to go Madonna

I knew him when she was Mniana he would go off on that shit he would go on I mean it was just a different way of looking at it he had a hard time

like Tuesday and Wednesday but by Thursday he picked it up he picked it up he picked up a way to attack the Cubans right

And then get them back and wild. And then that was it after that. Yeah. He had jokes about them like swimming on top of each other. Like he was using each other for rafts. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you got to find a way to do it. Like you used to say little things to me, bro, that really I learned.

Yeah. Like I would ask him stupid shit. He'd give me an answer. And then he started talking to me. And he would talk to me about horses and shit. Horses? Because he was a gamble. He liked horse better.

Oh, like horses. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, that's what I'm... You ever been to the Kentucky Derby? No, no, no, no. You? Yeah, man, I've been there like three times, man. You don't see the Kentucky Derby.

Let me tell you something. You should go... Let me tell you something. I got things on my bucket list. If you're like a horse dude, you got to do it. You know, they got these, you know, they were... This is like several years ago, but there was this organization. They were trying to get, like, more celebrities of color at the, at the DERBers.

So man, they set it out for us, man. They flew us there, put us up. You know what I mean? Like, caked us off and whatever, man. We went and, you know, you get all, you know, you get all fucking, you know, dressed up, you know, my lady was there with a fucking hat and shit and mint jewelips and shit. It's something to see. And then like in the infield, that's like where all the white trash cats got, you know what

is like a NASCAR race or whatever. That's in there, but that's not what we are. they had us in like a, you know, like a box and whatever. Shit is dope. Give me the guy's number. Maybe you guys want to come from Cubans there. Yeah, now you gotta do a few. It's fresh.

It's fresh. You gotta really, what the fuck? What is this? What is this? Yo, let's up. I just want to know. What is this? We need another music break.

Yeah. Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Eat the stars here. What's going on?

There's no music. There's no music yet. There's no music till you. and my brother. We just chit-chatting here. We need, we need, like, a, we need a, we need a lot of things. We need an instrumental hip-hop beat that I can freestyle to. Do the police thing.

Oh, God. Go ahead and do the police thing. All right, Lee, please. As I chuck. What are you got to bother me for? All of a sudden, everybody wants to come on the show and rap. You know what I'm saying? The words getting out.

No, me. You know I got $1,500,000, 2,000 milligrams. The words getting out. There we go. rap to that like Ohio players five. Really? It's just the whole thing is even if you do it

they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna take it down on YouTube so you can't Oh so that so don't do that. Yeah you can't be singing no fucking music here the same no. Well even just you can't even do music that I that I'm making up out of my head. No no no no they don't want to hear no music they don't want to hear nothing. Yeah but you know what you got to do?

They got these things like these cats they put out these music they put out these CDs of just of just beats and they give you permission to use the beats any way that you want to

I'm gonna put you up on it I use them all the time I've made records with them that I've sold and they say amen and it says like when you like what you buy the CD and it would say hey man you know it's like 20 beats here and they're like yo these beat use these beats

any way you want. We don't care. We give you the right. Why, why? So I'm going to put you up on that. I need something like that in my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That way you can do it. Yeah, that way you can do whatever you, you know what?

You know what? You wait what tonight? 2, 250. That's 4. He might got something to do later. He got something to do later. He got another do. He got another do with going home. And stare at the wall. Something to do later. You didn't even break a thousand milligrams. Some of do later.

What are you talking about? Something to do later. 250 and 2 is 4.50 and 3 stars. Four stars. Four stars. Whoopty-doo. 300 is 800. You're way off.

You're 1,200 off the minimum here. You're slipping. I'm going to do one more. I'm going to do one more edge here. Even fucking my man here has taken chances. Even pussy-ass kid is taking chances. Even kids take into you. Eat the fucking things.

You're going to regret it. Oh, fuck, yeah. But at least you're going into the cave knowing. You know what I'm saying? You ever watch that? No, not knowing. Do you got, you know, we used to watch, that El Ray Network?

You ever watch that? I watch Friday night sometimes they have like Kung Fu movies. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Like on Sundays, like all day long. They have like Kung Fu movies and shit, man. Like all them shit that we used to fuck with, man. I like, I'm like,

I got a big bag of weed and a fucking. You remember Bruce Lee from day one? Yeah, man. What are you talking about Green Hornet days and shit? Haute Horny. You remember that one? Yeah, Cato? Remember Cato? Yeah. He disappeared for a while and they came back with. Yeah. Fist of Fury.

Fist of Fury, Chinese Connection. By the time the Chinese connection came back, returning, return to the dragon. It was all over. Chinese connection. Chinese connection was, you know, no dogs and Chinese allowed. I'm fucking unbelievable. Kick the sign

and all, man. Kid me? Bruce Lee was the mother. Come on, man. Bruce Lee was a cold. He just took over it. tell you what, as dope as he was, man, we like that next era, you know, with those, you know, with those, you know, what those, was Wu-Tang kind of films. Man, we like that better. No, not me. I did.

I did. I did. Because, nah, because, well. When he died, I watched, when he died, maybe for another eight months, I watched Kung Fu movies. And then once they started flying through the air, I was done. Man, you're crazy. That was the best time ever. Man, that's when we really got into it

Because if you look at it No, no, no, no, no. Look, Mooseley was dope. You know what I'm saying? Remember that? No, I'm traditional. Remember when they're on the boat And entered the dragon,

the white guys, do I bother you? Yeah, yeah, doing that. Yeah, and then, yeah. And then, yeah, and he makes him out on the fucking rap. Bucci's like, don't waste yourself. Like, Bustle was dope, but trust me, when you got to like, you know,

five deadly venoms and master killer and all that Wu-Tang and 36 chamber and all that, Man, I really like those movies. I went to see one of those. Because they got all the corny, hokey drama shit. This was the Shitley. I go to Jersey City to watch one of those fucking movies.

By this time, I had retired fully from Kung Fu movies. And I don't remember which one it was. I get the bus. I get awfully. I mean, 10 minutes into the movie, they're chasing the Chinese guy. And I loved it. I was in. And all of a sudden, he's running with this thing that must weigh 300 pounds.

It's a treasure chest. Okay, I've been there. I pecked up a safe one time and ran out of a fucking place. Wasn't no fucking yard that you're running, but I carried it for a few feet. Adrenaline's a motherfucker. You wasn't Bob Hayes with it. He gets to a fucking mountain that's chasing him.

He looks up at the mountain league, and he goes like this with the safe. He throws it up into the air, and then he jumps, lands on the mountain, and grabs the gold out of the air. I got up, put my popcorn, one down and that was the end of my Kung Fu theater. No.

How sad was that? See, let me tell you something. That's how sad it was. I'll tell you when I made a comeback when I got arrested, when I got, when the warrant got released for me, November 18, 1987, against my best judgment. My buddy had to do from Detroit.

That was crazy. He goes, go home. I didn't go home. I told them I was going to go home. I didn't tell nobody who I was going. I rented above the law. Lethal weapon was out I wouldn't see that shit

I wouldn't watch that shit And that was the first time I watched the martial arts film Was above the law Anybody seen Richie No that was the one before that Which one is that? Anybody seen Richie?

Bobby Lupo Anybody seen what Richie did to Bobby Lupo? Where's Bobby Lupo? Who shot Bobby? That's the one when he's a New York guy The Chinese guy sticks is in it

But that was the first Bobby Lupo Oh no no no I'm lying to you Code of Silence with Chuck Norris 83 with Dennis Farina, Garbage Men, Cops Undercover. That was one of his, no, one of his first movies. Dennis Farina got old money, man. No, Dennis Renza got Midnight, remember Midnight Run?

87, but before that, Dennis Farina showed up in Code of Silence. And there was, oh, Thief, 81. He was one of the fucking bad guys. Check it out, Lee Syatt. IMDB Dennis Farina. See what his first film was. It was a Chicago movie. It was either like the first...

Dennis Farina. Wait, wait, you know what we were talking about before? Wait, let's go back because I wouldn't ask about it. He also had that show from Chicago on NBC with Andrew Dice Clay. He did that, but then he did Law & Order 2, right? He did season that. But that was what I was going to answer you. Like, somebody like that.

He was a movie like that. A thief was his first movie. What the fuck you think you're dealing? What's the second movie? Do you want TV movies or real movies? What was the second film? Wait, what they list. Code of silence.

Code is the... Who the fuck? No, you think I'm a fucking amateur from Johnny 28th? You're expert on Dennis. Then he came back with Midnight Run in 87, which to me, the best commercial mobster ever to fuck it in a film. I've said it once. I said it a thousand time.

Rick Ramos. Better than Robert De Niro and analyze this? better than Robert De Niro until you see Robert De Niro and fucking Goodfellas you know shit like that But we were talking about this before Like you acted with him

Yes I was asking you something like like like what Like how you know what I'm saying Like how heavy sometimes the interviewer gets interviewed Okay the first time I did analyze that My I thought They kept saying your scene

Might be with De Niro They have not decided yet. Okay. And then a week before, I shot, they said, no, no, no, no. You're scenes with Anthony Lumpagli. I go perfect. But. So when I was there, I was there for two days.

But they had two cameras going. They had A and B. Was it out here? No, Jersey. Bye. And soprano neighborhood. Right there. In the cut.

Right in the fucking cut with Incarni and all that shit right there. Oh, God. So right there on the streets, they had the trailers out. And they said that they're shooting the barbecue scene over on the other thing. So really, I never really, I got to see him like, you know, 10 feet away. Did I take a picture or break his balls? Not even close. I didn't even say nothing.

We would never do that. I would never do something like that. I wouldn't do that. And then I booked a boxing movie. And I read the script and I was going to play his thing. And I learned my lines. I even paid an acting coach. I made notes.

I taped myself and I was prepared. My scene was Thursday night, and it was like a 15-minute scene, but they wanted me to come in Thursday morning. I said, you know what? How about I fly, and I got a fucking tremendous deal on a ticket. I use my miles. How about I got a room Wednesday?

Right. They go, come on down. Right. I fly down there. I get a room. I check, and you know me, I look around, everything's coach. I roll a joint.

I'm going to be down there for six or seven. I got a big bag of fucking weed with me. I roll a joint. They say when you check in that you get three meals cooked for you. You have to come down to the showroom from 7 to 9, 11, 30 to 1,

and 5 to 7. And it's one meal. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Okay. I go downstairs, they shuttle me over to the set. It's the first set with him and your buddy out of Kudra.

Okay. Now, I don't know this. Right. I just want to go. You know us, bro. Let's go check this shit out. I want to see if I'm over my head and this motherfucker.

Yeah, let me just sniff it out. Let me just sniff this shit out. I always heard that, what's his name, was always on set. He didn't give a fuck. He never wanted this trailer because he always wanted to see it in Spider-Man 2. I was never in my fucking trailer.

Well, at night, when I'd smoke dope. But I was always on the set watching. Right. Just in case he needed me. whatever, Jack Nicholson. Somebody said he was always on set. Yeah, he's always on deck. Some motherfuckers just like that.

They like being on deck. So I get there, and it's the first scene with him and De Niro. Now, in my mind, De Niro's going to show Blake. Canero's there. He's got two white dudes with him. He's got the director talking to him. Right. A lot Cool J comes over.

They shake hands. They hug. Everything's solid. You know what's going on. I'm overhearing this whole thing. They go back upstairs. they set the cameras up they block they block a few scenes

right they come back down they each go to the respected corners and about 25 minutes later let's go guys let's do this shit now I'm sitting there drinking now it's lit ready to go ready to go fellow cool jay has become a great little actor

for 40 years brother man I'm saying you know what I know that dude I know that dude for a long time I know you do he worked he works at it he gets lessons all the time. So yeah, so he's getting his, he's ready to, he's ready to get busy too, huh?

So getting ready to get busy. Everybody ready, positions. Everybody in the markers, yeah, all right. Action, roll, no, roll cameras, action. Fucking LL Cochay and him start to talk. And I could see that when the LL CoJ looks at De Niro. I could see it in his eyes.

You lose it. Okay. And all of a sudden you're like, Bubba cut. And also I can see how old Cool Jay going, sorry. And now he's like, all right, we'll start it from scratch. But you could see it. That little Cool J's head.

Next take. Boom. After a minute. Boom. Rattled. He shook. Okay. Same thing.

They rap. They shoot the scene. Everybody's happy. Everybody goes home. The next morning there's a scene and then it's me and De Niro alone. He comes in and asks me where the fucking dude is. Me and him alone. Same thing.

Same thing. But they took dude out. Right. So now it's me and him. I'm sitting. I don't have to do dick, bro. All I got to do is sit like this, laying back like I'm watching TV,

and I'm reading the newspaper. And he asked me a question and I'm fucking answer. I got on the set at 8. De Niro shows up by 9.15, whatever. They're shooting other shit. They shoot me about 11 o'clock. About 11 o'clock. He comes over, shakes my hand,

introduces himself. I say, hello. He asks me if I'm in town. I'm a Cuban. Wow. I had a Cuban friend. He was a lot darker than you. Bava, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Right. Very lighthearted. He goes, do you want to rehearse? Shooting the shit? Like, you're like, yo, Bobb didn't ever shooting shit with me? I can't say nothing. I don't say nothing. He walks away.

He comes back. He goes, you want to rehearse a little bit? Yeah, let's do it. Boom, done. Second rehearsal. Boom, done. He tells me to take a pause here. Boom, done.

Let's do this. Boom, done. You guys ready? Yeah, let's do this. Now the whole time I'm fucking with him, dog I ain't looking at this motherfucker I don't have the balls to look at this motherfucker I'm glancing at him

I'm making believe I'm looking at him But I can't look at this motherfucker's eyes So you're trying to wait till it's time to go To really work it And to get it okay I got to right I ain't gonna waste this My brother first take

Do I look him straight in the high And all of a sudden time stops and you see the guy in Cape Fear. Yeah. You see Godfather too. You see the priest with Madonna's ex-husband when they escaped from the jail in Buffalo when they became priest.

You see the other one. The other one he did. You see the raging bull. Him and Robert Duval. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Deer Hunter. You see every movie he's ever been in and whatever thought you had in your mind

stutters. And also they go, cut! And you're like, what? Diaz, you missed your line. You're like, oh, shit. That's how powerful his faces. He's heavy. But the first time he must know.

He knows. He knows. Like Denzel knows. Yeah, they know. Robert De Niro knows. They know that people are going to choke. Sean Penn knows. Yeah.

During rehearsal, we're just shit chatting. Leo knows. All those guys got to know that. They know. They know the first time they got to look at you around. And I'm just me. Yeah. It's kind of.

Then the second. can take again. This time I kept it together and said it. But after that, I made myself just stare at him and talked to him for a little while. And I kept seeing, you know, the guy from the devil. So maybe what you're saying is you wish you would have, you put

eyes on him before, like got that over with? No, no, no, no, it wouldn't have mattered. It was going to go down. I could have gone to a dance with him and the first time I had to act with him, it's still going to go down. You're right. There's certain people. somebody mentioned to me once they did a scene with Denzel in the movie

and we were talking about something and he goes dog there's nothing worse than the Denzel stared down you're gonna lose you know no he goes you just your whole body just out yeah he goes the first two times because it's just hold on

it's 10 fucking Zelle how many movies you still do every year dog you know what I'm saying like look Densvert I mean it's Denzel no no but I'm saying asking you my brother me you're still doing movies yeah no no not nearly as much but you're doing music you're the last of the real mohicans gee you're surviving out in tally with kids yeah no look i'm i'm lucky because look i'm not only just that but you know i've gotten off into the voiceover game

you know what i'm saying like you know you know you know how it is you got to be crafty out in this thing and once you find out things that you know people think you're good at you know you have to you know try to exploit that but you know, to my point when we were talking about earlier was, hey man, you know, we're not, you know, we're in this thing and we're doing our thing, but we're not that, that off that,

that when we, you know, when we get to work with legends, like it doesn't mean anything, you know, it means something. You know, it means something to work with Robert De Niro. You know what I mean? I told you, you know, you're talking about Robert DeNiro. I said, I said, I got geek, I got fleaky when I worked with Paul Sorvino. Like, like, you know what?

mean there's just certain people i did something with him too yeah i mean but you know he's you know yeah yeah he's heavy like you know i mean like there's certain people like they just like yo man you know what i mean you know or you're doing something with your boy and you look like yo the fucker do you know what this fucking is you know and and that and get to me i think that's one of the cool things about i got like like i don't want to use that you know you ever see these old jaded ass motherfucker's been in there too long like nothing gets them excited anymore you know what i mean like you know what mean like no disrespect but but i i i used to really love uh richard jenny you know what i mean and richard jenny was like a really funny dude thing but every time but you know it was almost like

rich you know obviously you know he got to a point where like you know like shit wasn't making them happy anymore like even even when good stuff happens you know what i mean and then you get to yeah absolutely and he was me is a good dude and a really good dude to me but me too you know what i'm good to me too like you know what I'm saying like when you get to that point when you know when even you like you get the you in an opportunity and and then you know like oh you get a pilot or something and then you're all right well and nothing it's gonna work you know then then what then what are we doing what are we doing it for like I still you I still get excited about stuff that happens in our business you know what I mean like it's fun like you know me kicking a hit with you man me

you ain't kicked in a long time that shit is fun you know I mean, I didn't do nothing. I didn't do anything today. You know, I worked, I worked all weekend. Me and Played head shows over the weekends, man. I got back here. I didn't do shit today. But I drank champagne and I got, I got a manny petty.

You know, like that, you know, you know what I'm saying? And that's what, wait, wait, but because that, because me and you used to do the Braia improv on Tuesdays and Wednesday nights and last night. I don't know how many Sebastian's the Tina Rooms. You know what, but you know what? They don't know. For me, I got to be honest with you. I wake up every morning and I'm happy that I'm still here.

And then I'm happy that I'm still here. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? Like I get two blessings every morning. Wait, but look at them. How do fuck does a guy like me end up in Los Angeles, California. And you still do and stand that fucking comedy. Right.

At the store. You think you fucking people? are baffled. I'm baffled. Wait, and what you're talking about, look, and people think, look, and I don't, I don't want, you know, you know, me, like, not, you know, loving the comedy store or whatever like that.

I don't want anybody to get it twisted. I don't want anybody to get it twisted like, like it's not, like it's not a prestigious place. Lee, say, do we not have talks and clubs? I just don't like. I'm telling you. And I don't want to say any names. Paulie's, my dude.

Yeah, I know you're on Paulie. My dude. Nothing wrong with that. And there's nothing. And if you really think about it. I mean, that place is one of the preeminent place. You look, but this is where, this is where we came because this is the stuff at its highest level. It's the comedy store.

It's the laugh factory. It's the improv. You know, it's the, you know, it's the, you know, and there's improvs dotted all around here. And there's cool rooms, you know, somebody does something cool. They do, they, man, my man, Adam Hunter, I've been out of town, but he's been trying to get me to come over there. they're at the dime. You know, Chappelle went over to that spot.

Like, man, they, you know, they're doing cool stuff all over town, man. You know how that goes. We just,

you know, we're not as young as we used to be. But we used to, we used to hit all those spots and all those Latin spots. Trust me, those Latin spots helped me become. Oh,

Jesus Christ. A comic. Fucked yet. Because they were, they were the most plentiful out here in Southern California, right? Do they still exist?

Are there still? Man, they sue. You know what? No, I still, I mean, I still do stuff with, um, Robert Zapata. Sebastian. You know, I haven't done something for, for Rudy at a minute. But yeah, I mean, you know, God, I mean, how many times, you know, I haven't spoke to him in a minute. But Rick Martinez, God, I used to do shit with it.

I used to do two, three joints with him a week. Is he still out? I think he kind of, I don't, I know, I hear it from a minute. I see, like the store from time to time of the Saturday night. Yeah, you know. He does something from time. Yeah. You know, look, man, God bless, you know, God bless those Latin dudes that was hustling.

No, no, no, they was hustling so that we can, you know, you're talking about when, you trust me. Like you said, when shit was low. Yeah, man. You need that 50. That was cash money. And these guys would have 40. Yeah, that's that money you put in the gas to get back to fuck to L.A. They would have 40, 50 people.

Do that show and Whittier. I used to a Bowling Alley. O'Hambra. Bowling Allie and Whittier. Fucking. I mean, you name it people. You know what I'm saying? And I was just mad to get a key from kid and play in a bowling alley and Whittier.

Sunday through Thursday. Every fucking week. And I'm going to do it. You were out there doing two Mexican gigs. It didn't matter. And you drive anywhere, Lee. Tortillas. Tortillas.

We get stone. We see Felipe, Willie Garcia. We see fucking people every goddamn week. And then you end up either at the improv, the store. it was just fucking a different you know and I wish I wish at times

I still had the stamina it is you're right about that you're right about that five nights a week you're right about that you know what it is but guess what you know we got to take advantage of it like you know like on the lift or Uber tip like you know what I'm saying because we don't got to drive no more

you know what I'm saying but you're right even even that you still it's hard to have the energy because you used to hit like come on now you used to hit like four or five spots a night like a like I remember I remember a guy like Jeff Garcia used to tell me like how many spots he hit a night like spots spots spots spots spots but you know we're not 32 no more.

There's a fucking yore already and I got eight hours of sleep last night. Yeah, I got eight hours of sleep last night. I can't do it no more every fucking night. Yeah. I worked. Yeah, no, I went to bed at one. Yeah, I got up at fucking eight. I wasn't bad last night.

Dog, I'm happy you came on. I'm happy you're going on tour and I'm happy you're still in the fucking. I would say this. Yeah, I would say this. Cats that are interested in catching kid and play doing our thing as kid and play. We're still doing a lot of those. I love the 90s dates. And then it's like, I love the 90s.

And I love the 90s. The party continues. I think we're at the Greek. We're at the Greek in July with TLC and Genuine and a bunch of other groups. So, you know, it's been real cool, man. Like, you know, we're glad to still be doing it. No, TLC. How many girls now?

Just two? Yeah, they're keeping it together on stage? Yeah, yeah, we did a show with them a few months ago, like up north at a casino, you know, and they, you know, they got like dancers and all kind of things, you know, the kind of, you know, you know, why we're not. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You know, they're missing an important part, but, you know, they got video aspect to it and whatever, whatever. So I would say this.

I think, you know, if you love the group TLC, then you should come check it because, You know, if you love the music, you're going to love the music, and then, you know, they pay homage to left eye. You know what I'm saying? In a way, you know what I'm saying? What are you laughing? You can't laugh at that. Your timing is like, number one, your timing is terrible. I'm laughing at Lee.

And number two, I can see the star creeping up on you. You might as well take another bite. You know what I'm saying? It's all over. It's like that. Who sang that song? Let me see. Who sung that song?

I'm going down since you ain't around. Well, they did a couple of different ones. Mary J. Blige did one. Yeah, you're probably thinking of Mary J. Blige's one. Don't really matter because I can see it. I'm going down. Oh, Jesus, what's Dean Dower when you need him? This would be a duet of death.

I'm going to do a duet. Because you're in a ride. What you got some? You got some, you got some should to read. I got read too, man. W. N-E-W-O. We got joy Diaz.

Listen, the quicker we do this, the quicker we do this, the quicker we're out of here, Tarzanian. You understand me? Lee, what's going on? Don't act like you don't remember that. Lee, what's going out with that last thought? What is he, an orphan? He's an orphan tonight. He's out of the bag already.

He's hiding him shit, man. We're putting him back in the bag. Lee, you're at 800 milligrams. I don't even want to squeal on him, buddy. You got to eat three or four more. No, I know. You got to eat that last one. No, it goes.

Yes, you got me fucking up. Lee, what is the problem tonight? I'm too high. Why are you flicking? This is what we do? He's Superman high. What are you going to do Wednesday night when Gomez comes out here? And he wants to break your record and break you got to eat.

You're going to have to eat 2,500 milligrams on Wednesday. You're going to need some fake gummy. We'll see what happens. I got to star one for fucking hooking us up tomorrow. You understand me, Lee. You don't have to eat fucking 2,500 milligrams on Wednesday. Are you prepared for this? I'm trying to prepare it.

No one's prepared for that. You think I'm a bad guy here. You got like four more stars to eat just to put you in that level to prepare you for Wednesday night. I'm just trying to help you out. I appreciate it. You do what you need to do, but I would eat that last

style. There's about six or seven more than you. What? You could eat those down in two fucking handfuls. I got my stuff. I'll take fucking three or four more. No. What do you think?

I'm a fucking half a fucking soldier here and shit. Look, you smell this. When you smell the bag, it says, tell me to eat this. I smelled it. There's unfortunate here. It punched me in the nose. All right, number one, you know, I love you motherfuckers always, okay? You got two options.

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