The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #573 - Rikki Rockett

Episode Date: April 4, 2018

Rikki Rockett, the drummer for the band Poison and a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio.  This podcast is brought to you by: ... Blue Apron: Go to blueapron.com/JOEY to get $30 off you first order.    
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Starting point is 00:02:30 The Christ Killer Ricky Rocket This is going to be a good one Strap on your seatbelt cock-sockers Here we go Here we go A little Bill Ward Here you go
Starting point is 00:02:41 Oh shit Oh shit Oh shit A little geezer butler Listen to him Oh shit This is 405 music When you're in the HOV lane by yourself and you don't give a fuck about the ticket
Starting point is 00:03:03 You're like I'm taking the ticket I ain't sitting in this bullshit You yelling? Yeah, no, no. I will commit a crime. Oh yeah, I will. This is it right here. Ah! Cut your toenails and wash that monkey.
Starting point is 00:03:23 It's going to be a beautiful day. Let's do this shit. Here we go. Here we go. Fucking John Osborne at his finest. Ricky Rocket, finally. Man, that shit just takes me back to, like, kegger parties and, like, you know, when I was discovering all that stuff, man. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Back in your days in Pennsylvania. Yeah, yeah. This all started in Pennsylvania. Like, I thought, you know, when you meet somebody and you see their music and you watch the videos over the years, you go, okay, this started on the sunset strip. Ricky's from fucking Orange County. The other guy, the singer is from fucking San Francisco and the guitar player is from San Diego. And when I read about you, I'm like, these fucking guys are from Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Cici's from Brooklyn. The finalist for the guitar player was between him, Slash, and some other fucking monster. You guys went with Cici, you know? Yeah. Just a phenomenal story. Millions of fucking records all over the world,
Starting point is 00:04:53 world tours. And now, you know, this is all 86 through 92, whatever. The heart of glam rock. Even longer, a little longer. And then all of a sudden, here you are, 2017. Well, here's the thing. Back in PA, we were pretty young guys when we put this band together,
Starting point is 00:05:15 you know, 19, 20, 21 years old. And it was hard to play bars. I mean, they didn't, you know, even if we could get in the door and play, that the generation that was frequenting bars were older. You know what I mean? They were 25, 30, 35, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, so we're appealing to kids. So that's when we, you know, we would play Maryland because the drinking age was only 18 in Maryland at the time.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So we did a lot of shows in Maryland. But then we're like, well, we can't just play those same couple of clubs over and over again. So we started to rent VA, VA, blah, let me try this in English. VFW halls, skating rinks, promote our own concerts. You know what I mean? and it would be all ages. And then we finally, I mean, we had just done everything that we could do back there. Out here was where Hard Rock was happening.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It was where Motley Crew, Rat, Keogh, I mean, all those bands were, you know what I'm saying? And so it made sense to come here. It made sense to come here. New York was not fertile for it. That was still wrapped up in the whole new wave scene, which was fine. That's just not what we were doing. And Philly was like vocal bands. and it really wasn't a rock scene too much.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I mean, arguably, Cinderella came out of there, but out here was where we needed to be. And so we moved out here in March of 84. I mean, we had like $2,500 between the four of us. And we just came out and went for it. We're figuring if we're going to sleep on the sidewalk, at least it'll be warm. And the one guy couldn't take it, the guitar player, so he'd go.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yeah, he got his girl knocked up. And, you know, it just wasn't his, it just wasn't jelling all the way. You know what I mean? Like he's a super good guy. I talked to him once in a great while. And he's a really great guitar player. And I mean, he went through all those clubs with us in the early days and really helped poison be what it is.
Starting point is 00:07:20 But invariably, it just wasn't a life for him. He did not like the late nights. And, I mean, we love to party. You know what I mean? I mean, we were just all. up in it. We'd love to go out every single night, party till 2 in the morning, come back, change into a pair
Starting point is 00:07:38 of jeans, and then go out and put flyers up all over town, and then sleep till noon, and then rehearse, and then do the same thing over again. And that's what we did. We just worked. This was once you got to L.A. or when you were still in Pennsylvania? Well, in Pennsylvania, we did. We had jobs back in Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Out here, we made this our full-time job. We did dumb shit, like, sell pencils for, you know, install. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did all that shit. But as far as like, I mean, we just made it our full time. And then we'd go to like Kavana, West Kavana, and places like that and play cover songs. We were a band that were reared on playing cover songs. You have to do that back east.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And then you slip in some original material. Out here, it is an original circuit. You come out and you play all original material. So we're like, how are we going to make money? So we go to the outskirts of Los Angeles or even different, like Arizona. and play bars that we could play cover songs, just what we did in PA. And we'd make money that way.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And then we'd put it back into our flyers and our promotion. And, you know, we worked really, really, really hard. I mean, we were like the kind of guys that, if we all worked at the same restaurant, we would have owned it in a couple years. I mean, we just had it hair up our ass. We were on fire, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:57 And we were determined, really, really, really determined. What was the first club you guys? into here on the uh the first place we ever played was madam wong's west that's not there no more it's not there anymore it's gone yeah and who wouldn't like you you it was you guys motley crew who was well motley crew was already signed they had played the u us festival i mean they were well on their way they were a couple albums in by the time that's right butly crew did do us because shot with the devil came out 83 84 yeah yeah yeah we moved out here in march of 84 So yeah, they definitely had, were ahead of us and rat.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And when we got here, they said, you know, it was like, you know, we were being told that that music is getting really, really, really heavy. That's where it's going. And if we were going to do anything, we had to go really heavy. And we weren't. We were a rock and roll band. I mean, we were like part Aerosmith, part Van Halen, part kiss, part, you know, whatever. You know, we had all those roots. and we like playing rock and roll songs.
Starting point is 00:10:02 What were your influences growing up? So much stuff. God, so much stuff. I mean, everything from Zeppelin to Mothoopal to everything in between. My first concert, my first concert, believe it or not, was Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass at the Allentown Fair. So I love all kinds of music, you know, and my dad was a trumpet player. My mom loved Elvis.
Starting point is 00:10:26 You know, my sister was a hippie. She was nine years older than me. so she had Grateful Dead going and here I came along, you know what I mean? My first record that I ever bought was Deep Purple made in Japan. You know? And still to this day Highway Star and all those songs are just
Starting point is 00:10:41 and Ian Pace is this fucking I mean, what a drummer. Come on, man. And he's still fucking just fucking just taking it to fucking China. Somebody was on here and we just did when they got back together that video. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Oh, yeah. I forget what the name of the song was. When Deep Purple got back to you? Yeah, something. They did something recently. Not recently, a couple of years back. You know, I feel guilty because I have not kept up with Deep Purple. But I saw Deep Purple at the Farm Show Arena in Harrisburg,
Starting point is 00:11:17 and Tommy Bolin was playing guitar for them. It's when Blackmore left. And Tommy Bolin, who was fucking amazing. Phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal. I mean, just another level. I got to say something, fucking Richie Blackmore has always give me the fucking creeps.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I can't lie to you. He gives me, and I've seen him, I saw him, I think, twice. I saw him in 82 when Rainbow did the Scorpions Breakout, Blackout. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, blackout. Yeah, I saw that tour. And I saw that tour.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I saw that tour with Judas Priest. No shit. Yeah. Because I saw them, it was the Scorpions and them, Rainbow, with Joel Lent Turner, who was really Joe Linguido from Cliffside Park, New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yes. It's so fucking funny. Joe and Turner's a hell of a singer, though, dude. You know, he's still out there? He's still fucking doing it. I mean, but did you Steve or Richie Blackmore looks like now? I haven't seen him.
Starting point is 00:12:15 You know what? I've never wanted to meet him because I've heard stuff about it. Right, right. So I'm like, I don't even, you know, I don't try to meet people anymore because I've been let down a few times and I just don't even
Starting point is 00:12:27 want to bother. If somebody wants to say hi to me, I'm open. I'm really an easy guy to get along with. But people have left me down, man, you know, and I just, so I just... Like people you looked up to, you know, all the years you went up to it. Earlier, we were talking about jiu-jitsu people versus musicians. Musicians drive me nuts. Jiu-Jitsu people are solid. You know? So, if somebody's a musician and a jiu-jitsu person, they're usually fairly solid. Because the jiu-jitsu part takes over that asshole musician part.
Starting point is 00:12:57 So we have 20 mutual friends, but the main one is John. John Salami. His family, and... I love John. He's a misunderstood person. Let me tell you something. He's a great thing. He's a very, very creative professional.
Starting point is 00:13:14 That's a bad motherfucker. I love him with all my heart. I torment them three days a week. I call him names. Today I call them at 6 in the morning. You know, I torment him. And he gave me for a birthday present. A Higgen Machado seminar at.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And that's the first time I saw you on the mat. I mean, I was struggling. I was embarrassed to be there. I even popped like the shroom tech. Like I popped two of them. So that made my heart even worse. Like I was really struggling with Jiu-Jitsu. And there's Dan and Asanto.
Starting point is 00:13:48 There's you. There's, you know, you're a professor now. You know, just the fact that you put me in the same sentence with Danny and Asana. It was pretty amazing. I was dying. Because he gets put in the same sentences, Bruce Lee, so I don't even know how I deserve that. No, but it was weird because here I was, you know, a thousand pounds overweight,
Starting point is 00:14:10 and people are coming up to me going, hey, put your foot here. Dude, everybody came over and said, you're doing this. You're a big guy. Do this, you know? And I left there, like, embarrassed, but at the same time I felt good, but you were great. Like, you said something to me about my. my arm, put your arm here, over here, you'll get more leverage. I never forgot that.
Starting point is 00:14:32 And then two weeks later, I walk into an airport, and who's sitting there, like a lonely person, but Ricky Rocket? And I go up to you and I go, I don't know if you remember me from the seminar, we were delayed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 11 hours. We got delayed because there was a thunderstorm. We landed in fucking, we had to do an emergency landing.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And somewhere in Oklahoma. Yeah. Then they flew us into Dallas. Yeah. And in Dallas, I lost you at the airport. Right, right. Every man for himself. I love you, Ricky Rocket, but every man for himself, we got to get to hell out.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And I lost you because we were all switching flights, and we didn't know if we had to spend the night in Dallas. And then I lost. I remember telling you China, I go, can you believe I see him at a seminar? I see him two weeks later, he's the nicest fucking guy in the world. And Higgin, you mentioned Higgin. I love, I love Higgin. Higgin, you know, I've always said this.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You know, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, except Hagan, he'll just kill you. He'll just kill you. Yeah. But no, I love him, man. He's just such a free spirit. I mean, you know, it's like, and he could have, to me, he could have been a heavyweight UFC champ
Starting point is 00:15:47 if he would have wanted to do that in his life. I mean, what's he like 200 to 1 defeats or something like that? Like something ridiculous. How do you use to submit people from his side control? 16 guys in one day, in one tournament. He got submitted, by the way. One day. He submitted 16 guys.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And took the title. He's going into SOMBO championships and won SOMBO championships. I mean, he's incredible. And all the Machado brothers have done that stuff. You know, that was the, you know, all around the world, they were doing that stuff. Who does nothing but Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and then goes in a sombo and wins against a guy that's done nothing but Sambo? I mean, he got to be a special kind of athlete, you know, to do that. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:16:37 His resume is incredible. And all those guys, I mean, Hicks-on, all those guys were doing that stuff. They were just, we're going to rule the world. I mean, that was, and they did, you know. You started 2000, what we were discussing this. Yeah. And it's funny because I'm not here to break your balls,
Starting point is 00:16:55 break anybody's balls. But the members of poison, now there was an original name before you came out here. Yes. What was that? Paris.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Paris. And then when you came out here, you're like, we're from fucking Paris. Yeah. We're fucking poison. Cucksuck. It's so funny how
Starting point is 00:17:14 the members from, you know, your band, used to get into fist of cups. one another. Yeah. Like in 91 at the MTV Music Award, so I figured one day Ricky Rap and said, you know what, before shit go to Ricky Rock and said, before shit gets deep, I'm going to get to
Starting point is 00:17:32 martial arts. Just in case things come over here, I could fuck people up and not feel guilty. So you joined it because, you know, there was, how many fights were there? But you know what? Most of the time we're on each other's sides. We, at the beginning, I always tell people this, at the beginning of our career, for the first even five years. People didn't know what to make of us.
Starting point is 00:17:56 They wanted to either fuck us or fight us. I mean, when we went into a town, literally, we got in so many fights, and our record company didn't know how to deal with it. They suppressed everything. Guns and roses, they would, you know, they'd just argue with somebody and they'd put it in the press. Us, our record company, put everything.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And maybe it was for the best, who knows. But the reason I got into martial arts, Seriously. I mean, I always love Bruce Lee and that stuff. But when I came out here, we had a scenario where a guy tried to stab me and a guy with a bumper off of a Volkswagen tried to stick Bobby Doll, right, on the street, on Washington Boulevard and L.A., right? Right down here. Yeah. And I thought I was going to die that night. And I swore to myself, I'm going to learn how to defend against the knife because I could have died if it really. A cop wouldn't have come around the corner and they saw the cop. That wouldn't have happened. The guy would have stuck me.
Starting point is 00:18:57 He was fucked up. His eyes were, I mean, he looked like, I mean, he was going to get me. And I get freaked out just thinking about it because I didn't know anything really back then. I mean, I took a couple karate classes and I wrestled in school. But I wasn't going to beat a guy with a knife who was on drugs. That wasn't going to happen. And who knows? I might not now either.
Starting point is 00:19:19 but I'd have a fighting chance now. But then I was just like, you know, right at that moment I made that decision, I'm going to learn something. So when I did have some money and some time, I went after Cass Magda, who was Danny and Asano's assistant for years, 15 years, JKD guy, Bruce Lee's stuff, Filipino martial arts, Cilot, Maita, had that mix. of martial arts, a lot of knife fighting, that's what I went for. So for five years, I did knife fighting, stick fighting, all that kind of stuff. And then there was, I'm telling you, my martial arts. No, I want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And then there was a guy that came in and did a seminar with Harry Marr. Let me try that one more time. Harimau C-Lot. And it's a sort of a ground game type of sea lot. And I want, that put me in touch with my wrestling background a little bit. And then I saw Hoyce Gracie in the UFC and I went, look at this. This is coming around full circle. It isn't just about standing up and striking.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I mean, I feel comfortable when I clinch. I feel comfortable when I'm on the ground more than when I'm not. What am I doing trying to just strike? You know what I mean? And so when I got the opportunity to go to the Machado Brothers School, I thought I'd do fine. I got tapped out 14 times that day. I remember it like it was yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And I went, this is where I need to be. And I mean, I just never looked back. I was 17 years ago. My first private that I ever did was with John Jock. And then I started to train with Anato. And Anato Magno. And then I do the regular classes. And then sometimes I do privates.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And then sometimes I do regular classes. And I did a combination of both all the way. And still, I still do it. way. I still do privates, you know, and I still do group class. It just depends on my time, you know what I mean? And now I'm even busier than I was then, oddly enough. I'm semi-retired rock musician, and I have less time than I did then, but that's how it goes, right? Semi-retired. Yeah. And you have children, and you were divorced and remarried, and I mean, you went through the last couple of years after I saw you on that flight, like, your life changed
Starting point is 00:21:46 dramatically one day. Yes. Yes. How did you feel when... We're talking about the rape allegation, right? Right, right. Yeah, back in...
Starting point is 00:21:55 We played... Now we would be... Oh, God. We'd be dead. Like, if it would happen. You know what? People need to, like, we'll get to that in a second,
Starting point is 00:22:02 but... What a weird fucking story. It was very weird. And to this day, I don't completely understand who this person really, truly was. I know quite a bit about her
Starting point is 00:22:12 from the private investigator, but, um, okay, so what happened was we did New Zealand, Auckland, New Zealand, or not Auckland, Wellington, New Zealand. And it was called Rock to Wellington, a big festival over there. We played that. And it's like a 14, I mean, it's like a two-hour drive to get to the airport. It's 14-hour flight. And, you know, I mean, it's like, it kills you, right? And I remember Zach, I sat with Zach Wilde. And he got drunk past Alfa, as he should. But we're in line, right? At L.A.
Starting point is 00:22:45 when we got off to get our bags, right? And a guy came up and said, I need to see you. I need to take you to the front here. And Zach goes, whoa, it looks like somebody's tour manager pulled a favor. And I'm like, yeah, that's cool. I got to go to the front of the line. Well, they took me in a room and handcuffed me. And I went, what is this about?
Starting point is 00:23:06 For two hours, they would not tell me what was going on. And I had one hand on my cell phone. I'm texting my tour manager until they took it from me. but at least I eked out a text to him, right? And so he came and tried to figure out what was going on. And they said, LAPD, we'll talk to you when you get here. Have you been in any problems with anybody and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, well, I got an argument with somebody.
Starting point is 00:23:33 No, I don't know. The police came and started to question me, have you had a situation with somebody? And I said, well, I had a former partner that I was in the drum business with, and we got it had some words at NAM. And he goes, no, no, this is criminal. Mr. You're under arrest for rape. And I went, what? I'm like, this is some kind of fucking joke. You're married.
Starting point is 00:24:03 At this time. No, I was engaged. Okay, you're engaged. And, I mean, I'm looking around for cameras. Like, I'm seriously thinking I'm getting fucked with. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, I didn't, you know. And so they took me in.
Starting point is 00:24:17 They started asking me a bunch of questions. And I didn't know how to answer most of them because I really seriously didn't know what the fuck was going on. I really didn't. And they asked me, they said, what names have you gone by, aliases? And I said, well, you know, I've gone by a bunch of dumb names, dick itches and all kinds of stuff, you know, at hotels. And he goes, what about John Minskyff? And I went, no, I don't know that name. But I remembered it when he said it to me.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I was like, why was he the cop saying this to me? So we got a lawyer, lawyer came down. I thought they were going to extradite me to Mississippi because it turns out that this allegation came out of Mississippi, which we had played there once that year, but a different part of the state we played in. And it was in Philadelphia, Mississippi. Now, if you do some research on Philadelphia, Mississippi,
Starting point is 00:25:07 it's where Mississippi burning happened, by the way. That's the town. That's the area. okay for reference so it's kind of a place it's as it turns out it is a there's a casino there
Starting point is 00:25:21 and it's kind of a destination you don't just pass by it you got to like drive to it you know what I mean I've never been there in my life to this casino to this day and so I didn't know
Starting point is 00:25:36 what they're talking about I'm like I don't know what the Silver Star casino is I don't know who John Minskoff is. I don't know. So 5 o'clock in the morning they cut me loose. The cops come in, go,
Starting point is 00:25:51 you got to get yourself to Mississippi and get that straightened out. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm getting extradited. I'm like, I'm going to be in a jail in Mississippi. Like, this ain't good. And I said, no, no, no, no. You're out in the fucking street. But you need to take care of your shit. And I went, okay, fine. I walk out the door, right?
Starting point is 00:26:08 And I'm like, now what do I do? I called my girlfriend. She had taken 10 Xanax to calm down, couldn't drive. I'm in the middle of L.A. somewhere trying to figure out how to get home. Anyway, I get home and I start just data mining the name John Minskhov. Who is John Minskopf? I come up with a million things, a million of things. All of a sudden, I hit pay dirt.
Starting point is 00:26:32 That there was a John Minskopf that had been arrested, okay, for telling a 15-year-old that he was a photographer for White Snake. and that he would do the in one of his interviews after being arrested for it he actually kidnapped the girl for three days he went to jail for a period of time and he said that him and his friends used to always pretend they were different rock stars to try to get laid
Starting point is 00:26:59 okay I went bingo this has got to be the fucking guy okay because it ain't me I didn't rape anybody I haven't even been to Mississippi except for one show which was not that part of the state like I said. So I told my lawyer right away, I said, there's this guy. And they said, okay, we're going to look him up. In the meantime, you're doing a lie detector test right away. And if it's good, we're going to use the data. We can't use it in court. But if it's bad, we're never going to talk about it. I said, okay, I did the lie detector test, which took all
Starting point is 00:27:31 that. I've never done anything like that. Guy called my lawyer and said, this guy is like flying colors telling the truth. He didn't know anything about this, you know? And so my lawyer was very happy about that because he didn't want to weigh in on it. And so then they started to track down this John Minskyoff guy. And we hired a private investigator to go to the Silver Star Casino in Philadelphia, Mississippi, and figure out who this person was. So the best that we can put it together after all this time was there was a guy that was a piano player and singer who was playing at that casino told a girl there that he was me okay and i don't know why i don't play piano so i don't know this is the part i can't put together okay but maybe she was dumb i don't know
Starting point is 00:28:26 um but there is video of her going into a room with this guy and And then later coming out, there was another guy that was in the room, too. He walked out. She said that was Brett Michaels, by the way. So Brett was there, apparently, too, according to this woman. And that I anally raped her and abused her and all this kind of stuff. And she filed three different times, by the way. And they're doing everything they can.
Starting point is 00:28:55 And so we ran just the logistics. Like, let's pretend that I really wanted to go to Philadelphia, Mississippi, find somebody, rape them and fly back to Los Angeles. Okay, how would all that work? Okay. So we put together this trajectory of that day, okay? And that day, by the way, I happened to be with my fiancé hoping her pick out wedding dresses because you have to sign in at one of these places, right?
Starting point is 00:29:21 So that was too many afternoon. So I would have had to flown all night and driven like two hours. Like it was some ridiculous thing. I would have had to go in like get it done and get back on a flight that, had no delays. And, I mean, there was like no way you could even do it. You know, and the district attorney looked at it and said, I can't even indict this guy. And I'll indict fucking anybody.
Starting point is 00:29:43 But I can't indict this guy. It's not even possible. I didn't fly back to Mississippi at all. I did not have to. Thank God. You were smart. But it took like six weeks for the, for the DA to get to my case. Because he had like murder cases and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And he's listening to some testimonies from not woman that was trying to make money, basically. because what they found out was that she had hired two different civil attorneys because they knew they weren't going to get me on any real charges because there wasn't anything. I didn't do anything. I never met her in my life. But maybe they could twist my arm hard enough that they could get other lawyers to come in and try to get me to just give them shut up money.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And I said, fucking no way. I never met this person. I've never been in that part of the state. I didn't have anything to do with. I've never raped a person in my. life. I got nothing to do with this at all. Somebody is stealing my identity and they're the ones that either did it, like actually raped her, or she just came up with a story because her husband got wind of it and now they're after money. I don't know. I think, because they were in cahoots.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Her and the husband did go to the police together. That much I know. And I know he filed chapter 11 a couple times. He had a car car lot, used car lot or something like that. So to this day, I still don't know who the girl is. I know her name, but I've never met her. I've never seen what she looks like. And I'd never been to that casino. And for the life of me, why I would get picked and singled out is beyond me. I was just fucking unlucky. You know what I mean? I think Rock of Love was on at the time. And maybe if she would have picked Brett,
Starting point is 00:31:28 it would have been too obvious because he was right there on the TV, so let's pick somebody else from the TV, from the band, the same band. I don't know. I mean, this is all guesses. I really don't know what her line of thinking was. Or maybe it was the guy that told her
Starting point is 00:31:43 and she believed them. Or maybe it was a... I don't know. I don't know. Fucking crazy. Crazy. To get off a plane, get pulled over,
Starting point is 00:31:51 and to be, basically, I mean, you know, on the other terms, was able to charge you, put you in LA County until Mississippi extradited you. You had to go over there and make bail, which you wouldn't have a man. I spent every cent I made to pay my lawyer and more. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:11 You know what I mean? And the other thing was, is that it made it so hard for me because we're getting ready to go overseas to do some other shows, too. and they don't like you leaving the country when you're under investigation like that. I remember I was in a target looking for something, I don't know, and this woman who you could tell she was like my age group, somebody that would like poison. You know what I mean? Kind of rock looking. She had her little girl with her.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And I look over and she recognizes who I am and grabs her little girl's hand and beelines it the other direction. because she saw me and she heard about that charge. That broke my heart more than almost anything for somebody to actually think that I would do that and to be treated like that. You know what I mean? Because that ain't me. I don't. I've never raped anybody.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And I was coming out with my first signature symbol and stores wouldn't carry it. And I mean, you are definitely guilty until proven innocent. And worse now. Like you said, you were starting to talk about it just a second ago. You better fucking believe it. Nowadays.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Done. Whether it's true or not. Once they read it on print, it's fucking true. Like, that's what's crazy about those type of allegations. That once people, it's like, have you ever written something about yourself, like a book? No, I plan on doing that, though. Wait till you write the part of being in Pennsylvania and the stuff you. You and Ricky, you and Brett did, and how you hooked up with Mike and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:33:55 When you read it, never mind thinking about it. Once you read it, there's times you have to put your pen down, take these glasses off and go, wow. I can't believe I did that. You know, you just said before about the sleeping when you first got here. Yeah. Who does that shit? Right. People with a dream.
Starting point is 00:34:12 But the fucking, you don't know how, you won't know how strong, because I'm trying to write a book. and as days I have to take a day off from what I wrote the day before and read, because whatever I thought about it, it hit me a little harder once you read it. Right, sure. And that's the problem that we have today. Listen, we started, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:34 the Me Too Pratt thing started a crazy thing now. So now guys are walking around scared. You know, women are walking around, fucking scared. And there's going to be a lot of fake allegations in the next couple of years. Well, as it turns out, I mean, I talk to a lot of police and, you know, so many rape allegations aren't true to begin with, which really sucks for the people that truly do get raped, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Because, you know, they, they have it hard enough as it is trying to come forward. Okay. And the Me Too thing, I think it's great. But now people, it's human nature, are going to take advantage of that. and try to make a name for themselves with it. Now, I wouldn't want it. If I was a woman, I wouldn't want to be a Me Too person, you know, unless it really fucking happened to me, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And I wish these women would realize that when they do that, and it's not true, they are doing such a disservice to the truly, to the people that truly were taking advantage of. You know what I mean? Because you know, you shouldn't do that, really. I mean, Weinstein or was, you know, am I saying his name? Weinstein? Yeah, Weinstein.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah. I mean, come on. Lee Harvey. You know, yeah. Lee Harvey, the fucking shooter. I mean, you know, I mean, it's, you know, come on. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:35:55 You can't get away. You shouldn't get away with that shit. But, you know, at the same time, people should not be able to get away with faking it either. That's bullshit, too. You know what I mean? God, we're in the fuck. Where is truth in this world anymore? I mean, it's just like, and I don't like to get, I'm very apolitical because our audience,
Starting point is 00:36:14 I do not like separating our audience because we have people from all law. I like it, like our music, and the thing that brings us together is our music, okay? And our love for music, our love for a good time and what that feels like when you play or enjoy music together. So the last thing I like to do is bring politics into my world because it does nothing but destroy it. But like with this march that just happened, the thing I like about it more than anything is at least it has people talking about that subject. And what it's done is it's made people show their ass on both sides of the aisle. I've seen people on both sides of that argument and I'm sitting there gone, I cannot believe that you said that on both sides.
Starting point is 00:36:58 There's people I only want to be friends with because it doesn't even matter what the politics are. I'm just sitting there going, I can't believe you just fucking said that. That's how you really feel. How old are your children now, Rick? Mine are my girl's five and my boy's eight. He'll be nine in a month. I got to ask you from your heart Do you worry
Starting point is 00:37:16 Ever His school was locked down a few weeks ago Oh Jesus Christ So I took him Drop him off at school Right And then Took my little girl
Starting point is 00:37:28 She goes to a preschool Took her to preschool I get the call Just as I'm getting back in my car From dropping her off I had to beeline it Back to Jude's school And by the time I got there
Starting point is 00:37:42 The police were not letting us in, not letting them out. And I'm sitting there going, what the fuck is going on here? You know what I mean? And a lot of parents are freaking out. And I'm like, look, don't freak out. They are doing the best job they can do right now. I mean, you got cops wall to wall here, right? But nobody knew what was going on. And they're like, why can't they tell us what's going on? I'm like, they can't. Because as soon as you do that, then the criminal changes their story. That's why. you know so i get that um and but it was so frustrating not to be able to just go fuck it i can i know that 15 feet away that my little boy's in there and i can just go grab i'm like why can't i
Starting point is 00:38:24 just go do that right now you know what i mean that's a very frustrating feeling but it was all this you know uh see monkey see monkey do stuff you know if somebody else is doing it they're getting notoriety then i'll get notoriety if i do it too what was uh the cause of the lockdown. It was a kid who's 15 years old. He was in one of the older kids, obviously. And he told somebody at school that the next day
Starting point is 00:38:50 he was going to come in and shoot up to school. And then he didn't show up for school the next day. And so they went and looked for him and he wasn't at home. It wasn't at home and he hadn't checked into school. So they don't know where he's at. You know what I mean? And so that's where it all came from.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And I don't know any more than that yet. He's going to be, I know he had face the judge probably I think this week actually so we'll see we'll see what his motivation I mean maybe he was just kidding maybe whatever but you know people need to realize you cannot
Starting point is 00:39:23 kid about that shit you have a five year old like I do you're 56 correct yeah Jesus you were slinging dick at 51 like yeah damn because I had mercy at 50 you know I knocked my wife up legally at 49 But I had mercy at 49 and a month late.
Starting point is 00:39:45 She's January 8th. I think I'm February 19th. You know, sometimes I wonder that. Like, is there should be, like, you know, you should knock somebody up when they're too young? Like, should you be a point where you shouldn't knock somebody up when you're old enough? I mean, seriously, think about, I'm going to be an old guy by the time my kids get out of high school. I'm an old guy now.
Starting point is 00:40:04 You know, so sometimes I feel bad about it. You know, look, I mean, today's America. the 55-year-old and 60, they're looking 45. I mean, a guy like you trained three times a week and one of the toughest things you could do, and you're going at it with Renato, who's no fucking white belt, you know? So I believe the same thing, too.
Starting point is 00:40:27 When I first came here, I got infatuated with the comedy bug, and I forgot about everything. Even though I came from a martial arts background and lifting weights, I just, you know, the late night, You go to fucking Mel's or Pinks and you get a sandwich and your french fries And next thing you know was 400 fucking pounds
Starting point is 00:40:45 And then I lost weight And then I joined finally joined Jiu-Jitsu Which I was I never want to touch a man's foot And I never want a man's ass in my face I was always a karate guy Kickboxing When I went down and watched what Eddie was doing
Starting point is 00:41:00 I'm like listen The first time Ricky Rocket Put his ass in my face To try to get a Camaro I tap And I shoot him in the fucking that. Like, that's how I thought. Like, you could do whatever you want, just don't put your ass in my face.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Now, I love it. I walked in there and got this addiction to just jiu-jitsu, even though I'm fucking horrible Ricky Rock it, because it doesn't matter. My first seven years of comedy, I was mumbling, stumbling along. It's like when you're a drummer, and you've been playing for two years,
Starting point is 00:41:28 all of a band signs you, you got to get, you got to go from level A to level B. But sometimes it takes time, and I'm patient. This is comedy taught me to be patient. The whole thing is just keep showing up. Yeah. If you keep going to that mat, just keep going.
Starting point is 00:41:44 You'll get drilled for two years, three. I still got beat up today. Well, it's like I'm figuring out my vlog. Like, I finally started a YouTube channel. What made you do all this stuff? I started doing the vlog because I geek out on stuff. I love cameras. I love drones, motorcycles, motorcycle gear, all that shit.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And I'm like, if I do a vlog, I can talk about it. because every day I'm going on YouTube watching some, you know, some guy talk about why I should get this drone or this jacket sucks or don't get this helmet or, you know, and it helps. I mean, it helps you make a decision, you know. Otherwise, you're just reading ads, right? And I thought, I just geek out on stuff so much. I want people to see, that's why I named it, you know, Ricky Rocket vlog, drummer, etc. Yeah, I'm a drummer, but it's the other part that you don't know about. this shit that I'm interested in and that I, you know, I love gear. I'm a gearhead. I love all that
Starting point is 00:42:43 shit. You know what I mean? Now, who gave you the name Ricky Rocket? Well, my name's Richard, you know, so Ricky was, you know, came right along with it. But, uh, uh, Rocket, I, I worked for a hairdresser and my job, okay, I did, it was just a summer job, okay? And my job was to greet the patron, okay? wash everything in this you know all the perm rods the combs that all that stuff clean up sweep hair just really the shit job is what what it was take the person's code where was this in pia in central pia and uh billy campbell uh heterosexual by the way uh just taught me how to talk to people and how how to move really really quickly and he said he never saw anybody moved their ass that fast i was like a
Starting point is 00:43:36 fucking rocket. And I would seriously just, you know, he'd say, Mr. So-and-so is coming in today. He likes Playboy and he likes a ham sandwich with, you know, whatever. And, you know, so I would run out and I'd get it and everything would be ready for that client. And I'd get ready for the next client. And I made his life easier. And so I got called the Rocket Man because I would just bam, bam, bam, bam. You know what I mean? And I learned a lot about life and hustling by that. Because the more I did it, the better tips I got. Better tips I got, the better more. could party and the more drums I could buy. So that was, and then I really fell in love with that business. I was like, man, you can like be around girls all day. I don't have to be out in the heat,
Starting point is 00:44:19 like laying tar or something like that. Like, I don't want to do that, right? And so I turned around, I went to beauty school and got my license in beauty culture. Yeah. And so I, and I was like, should I get a barber license? Should I get there? Now, this is all pre- Paris. Oh, yeah. Oh, this is during the past. Well, it was during a little bit. Part of it. I was always in bands.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I've been in bands since I was like 12. Okay. I always wanted to play. But I had to make a living, too. You know what I mean? And I didn't know if that was going to work out for me or not. You know what I mean? Anytime I could pick music over anything, I picked music over anything, over anything, literally, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:01 That's why I think it took me so long in life to have a family is because I chose. it over family. Yeah, I felt like there wasn't enough room in my life to do both. And I didn't meet the right, I thought I didn't meet the right person and all that kind of stuff. Really, it was me that wasn't ready. But I'd like to say that I didn't
Starting point is 00:45:20 meet the right person. I was just trying to get laid. That's all it was. All those years. All those years. Let's pretend just to fall off of Brent Michaels. I mean, I'd get pussy every night. I'd just hang up by the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:45:36 and watch them cry as they didn't get to meet Brett. Man, let me talk to you. Let me show you something. That was you? Just the Brett fall off? Just to hang out. Like, do you know Brett? I kind of know.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Could you talk to him a little before me? I really like to meet him. Well, you know, I usually do it, but Brett wants me to try you out first. I got to be the creepy guy. You know what I'm saying? Just what it fell off of Brett. I was going to ask you about your little girl. you like me or I like you because you're the fucking savage you saw the other side of life
Starting point is 00:46:14 from this woman who allegedly said you raped her to all those years on the road i mean i'm sure you went home a lot of nights and held your head and said what the fuck just happened you know what do i just say i live in the same boat as you do i mean my little girl is my world you know well But you know what? I always say this, that Lucy, my little girl was, you know, in Jude's a miracle, obviously, too. But Lucy, I think, came along in my life when I least expected it. And I think that there's like some lesson in her. I should probably think I was waiting for mercy. What's that?
Starting point is 00:46:55 I was with my wife for 13 years. You think I, like, I expected mercy to show up. I just threw my wife as stabbing. And that was the day I probably, I had knee surgery. and I started doing squats, drinking protein powder, and between the GNC protein powder and the squats, it rejuvenated this. I mean, that was my wife for 13 years.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Listen to this. This is a GNC commercial. This is a GNC. I tell them. I go to GNC still. Because after all those years, the weight protein got my wife knocked up. Well.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Between the squats and the wave protein. The squats do the testosterone. Testosterone up, so I got my wife. Did you stop drinking weight protein? I just drank it before I came now I even text Ricky and said I'll be there in seven can I sit where you are You get it in between us please trust me he farts
Starting point is 00:47:43 I don't need to be any closer to him So you were saying I didn't mean I don't know you know no no I just think that Lucy came along Like I still not sure what the lesson is Completely but I think it has a lot to do with I mean I've always respected women honest to God I know a lot of people say oh give me a fucking break But really
Starting point is 00:48:05 but I think she's taken it to another level. I want people to treat my little girl with respect. Have I treated every girl with the same kind of respect I want to see her treated with? I don't know. I wanted to get laid, right? So, which is normal. I mean, you know, there's nothing weird about that. But did I just like, is there something that I'm going to learn?
Starting point is 00:48:30 And I think I am learning it. that I've never it's like when you have a little girl and I think you're going to agree with this you endear somebody it's the most endearing you can be to somebody with nothing else attached to it. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Who wouldn't make me wear this? You could come here with a gun. Did you make that for it? And the best part about it is she's been gone for a week. She's not here. She's not here. She gave me this with the look in her eye. It was like it took her like, like, somebody said to me that, I said, who made that for you, a little girl?
Starting point is 00:49:07 I go, no, an intelligence stripper. Yeah, my little fucking girl made it for me. And it took, like, she, like, the teacher told me in school, she's like, she made you the matching necklace ensemble bracelet. So I got out of wearing the bracelet, but when she gave me the thing, you know the feeling. Yeah. You know the feeling. You know the feeling. You know, hard stops.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I mean, I could be on the computer deep. deep. I got Judas Free's help, Ben for letter on. I'm answering Ricky on Twitter. I'm sending an email back. I'm making notes in the notebook. And she'll just come in the room, like, get on my lap and go, Daddy, put on the octonauts. And that's it. No, no, you're done. Like, whatever I was thinking about. Lucy will cry and do something and come over and hug me. And I'll be like, oh, Lucy, Lucy, and my girlfriend will go, you know she's working here right now. That's what my life says to me. Yeah. Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:50:05 My wife goes like this. My wife will go like this from far away. Sucker, I'm doing an S with my hand. Whenever I'm doing something, my wife will come from the other side and go, oh my God. You know, I took her out to, you know, if I'm in town, listen, we're gone so much, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:22 on the weekends that when I'm home Saturday, I catch a 9 a.m. kickboxing class. I get out of 10.15. I get to meet the boys, sweat out the THC. I go home, I pick her up, and I take her and the mother for breakfast, you know, a pancake restaurant. Right. And then I dropped the mother off and I take her. Aren't you glad he just didn't say, like, I'm sweating out the meth?
Starting point is 00:50:46 Well, you know, I mean, that would just suck. He left out of the part. He spreads out the T.H. It's good Friday, so I didn't stop and get edibles for me. I was going to stop and get us a 200 edible, the body of Christ. I appreciate it. Do you realize Easter is on April Fool's Day this year? Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Like what? I'm going to put it in a podcast. I'm going to like wrap like eggs and I mean grapes and wrap and wrap and give it to my kid and say, hey, that's a little egg. April fools. I mean, you know, wow, that's weird. But anyway, it is what it is. I've never been like, I was like never the fun holiday for me Easter. It was okay.
Starting point is 00:51:26 But it's like eat some chocolate. You have dinner and now what? Everything's closed. You know? You know, it's not supposed to be fun. When you get older, it's supposed to be more serious. You know what I mean? But I'm going home with my wife and my daughter to Tennessee this weekend.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And I thought about it. You know, for ESA, the whole thing. Where they live, I survive two days. Wait, you live in Tennessee? No, no, I live here. Okay. Where my wife is from, the city where she's from. It's...
Starting point is 00:51:59 What city? It's, uh... It's close to Myland, Tennessee. Okay. It's a little, like 20 minutes from there. Yeah, my girl's from Memphis. And they have Lees Fried Chicken, which is the only reason why I would get on that fucking plane. Like, if I get on that plane, it's for Lee's fried motherfucking chicken.
Starting point is 00:52:24 It is delicious. It's not that Nashville spicy shit. Right, right. This is just good old fried chicken made by good old African-O. American old school black people they're all overweight you know what I'm saying they got gloves on they got flour all over their faces
Starting point is 00:52:42 but they fucking have pride in the chicken they make you know and I felt like going but again it's like I'm gonna get stuck there for five days for them or whatever and it's my wife's time like for me it's my wife's time like when I'm there she's worried about me like what am I
Starting point is 00:53:01 thinking yeah she's trying to appease me and I'm like don't just worry about your mom and dad you know I go for a walk I smoke a joint I put an iPod on I'm fucking happy I mean there's no jiu-jitsu there but you're married right married yeah nine years 10 years yeah
Starting point is 00:53:17 I've been with it for 17 and I did a movie for Nix Watson years ago and he called me in like the night before and I said some dirty shit but my scene was with Don Johnson and him and I got stuck in the room because we'd have to I met him I met him.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah, and he, at the time, I don't know how old I was, but people were congratulating him because he just had a kid, and I go, in the back of my mind, you creepy, selfish motherfucker, having a kid over 50. Yeah, right. You're thinking. Like, what are you thinking?
Starting point is 00:53:50 Dr. Laura talked about that one time. Whatever. But Don Johnson, I met at a wedding, John Branca's wedding, who's a very famous attorney that poisoned you. used. He was also Michael Jackson's attorney. I met Michael Jackson that same night. The one and only time I met Michael Jackson, who was very cool, by the way, very cool. I was introduced to Michael Jackson through Quincy Jones, and all this told me never. No, I'm kidding. But it sounds like a
Starting point is 00:54:25 joke, like I'm about ready, like I'm just like bringing up fucking names. But Don Johnson was there, And I talked to him for maybe three minutes. Very nice guy. He's talking to other people. When he went to leave the reception, he went around and said, hey, it was nice to meet you, Dick. Hey, Ricky, it was nice meeting you. Hey, Jane, nice meeting.
Starting point is 00:54:45 He remembered every fucking person's name that he met, that he had never met before. It blew me away. Blew me away. I said, I want to be able to do that. I still can't do it. Well, that's funny because when I worked with him, I had heard all the Miami Vice stuff and stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:00 and it was one of the best mornings of my life. I treated him like one of the guys I'd known. We started talking about movies, and next thing you know, I looked at them and I go, one night I was in Galena Street, having a cocktail in 1984, and I heard a bunch of yelling and screaming,
Starting point is 00:55:19 and it was Don Johnson at the heat of Miami Vice. He was living in Aspen. I was living in Snowman's Village. I was in a bar in Aspen, and I remember hearing all these screams. he walked into the wrong fucking bar where there was like 90 women and they chased him out
Starting point is 00:55:36 all you can see is his bodyguard and Don Johnson running down the street and 90 fucking women he was the shit by 85 white fucking loafers and you know all that shit don't you wish you could get away with wearing white fucking loafers he used to wear the shit
Starting point is 00:55:53 he brought that stuff let's bring that shit back yeah with no socks on yeah no socks I wear no socks for one day my feet smell like that dead Bodies. Don Johnson's putting on fucking sneakers with no socks. I know you got to go. What do you think of this? Because this is what they're important. Can you believe when you started this band Paris in 1986, was it? Well, we started, no, we moved out here in 84. We started the band in like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:56:19 Brett and I had been in another band before what became poison. And we were doing all the work. and the other two guys just were not working it. They had an excuse for everything. And so that's why we started poison. And we started it with the idea in mind that we wanted to see, or we wanted to be, everything that we wanted to see in a band. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:56:48 We wanted the music to be there. We wanted people to look cool. We wanted it to be an exciting onstage, the dynamic on stage, all that stuff. We created, we set out to create that as fans. Like, as a fan, what do I want to see? And that's what we pursued with poison. We couldn't do it with the other guy.
Starting point is 00:57:10 So we tried to make it happen in PA, but it was limited, like I said. You know, we're able to go to Maryland and play shows and things like that and then start, but it was happening here. This is where rock and roll was happening. Heavy metal, all that was happening in Los Angeles. There was fertile ground for what we were doing. It was not happening back east, not that much, a little bit. There were some good bands that came out of there.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Of course, Kicks is amazing. Rathchild America. I mean, there were some great bands that came out from there. The Dead End kids, all these great bands. But the timing, our age, all that stuff, we just couldn't make it fly back there. You know what I mean? It was always going to stay just at this level. you know, we wanted, we were shooting higher than that.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Who does most of the songwriting for you guys? Like the first three out. We wrote together. We would get, no, we would get in just like a garage band. You know, we'd get in a rehearsal room or, you know, when we lived in Washington Avenue, you know, it was just a room, basically. We just get together and start playing, you know. Somebody come up with a riff. Hey, I come up with a riff.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Or I'm in the mood for this. And, you know, do you ever do this? And do you ever hear this song? And I had this guy. You know, and we just work on it together. like that. I love that. I love, we are literally a garage band, you know what I mean, that figured out how to take it to an arena level. I really honestly stick by that script. That was my next question. I mean, in 1984, when you came out here, I mean, what were you thinking? What was
Starting point is 00:58:45 going to be the final result? We had, Kim Fowley was interested in us. Kim Fowley, I don't know if you know who he is, was. He produced the runaways. He's famous for the runaways. But he's kind of like an idol maker. There's not many of those guys left in the world anymore, especially in rock. Malcolm McLaren's probably the last living idol maker. But, you know, he wrote a lot of songs, Alleyoop and all this stuff back in the day. But he would create bands and concepts and try to turn it into something. And he fell in love with what we were doing. He had heard a demo and said you guys got to come out so we tried to work with him and he said something to me one time our whole band actually he said people do things around rock and roll they will never do in normal life
Starting point is 00:59:32 and i'll never forget that because he was so right he was crazy he died a couple years ago he was crazy and he was a very underhanded guy but he was very brilliant and some of the things he said it just stuck with me all these years um but he sort of taught us a little bit how to survive in l.a because it's a different vibe out here. I mean, it isn't, you know, you have to, if you're not hustling, you're getting hustled. I mean, that's L.A. That is fucking L.A.
Starting point is 01:00:00 But did you see like arenas and shit? I mean, in the beginning, was that what you guys were thinking? Did I see what? Arenas, I mean. Hell no. Fuck no. We didn't know that. You just guys wanted to get signed to maybe open up for Aerosmith.
Starting point is 01:00:15 You would have been good with that. We were very lucky. I mean, the first tour we got was, Quiet Riot. We went out with Choir right now. They were on their way down, unfortunately, at that time. And they weren't doing that well. But they were still playing big clubs, some, you know, some smaller arenas, some theaters, a lot of clubs at that time. But it was big time for us, dude. You know, and that was like our shot. And we went out there and we did everything we could on that tour. When our record came out and we released Cry Tough, It didn't do that well. Crytoff's a great song, and I believe in those words, you know what I mean? The lyrics to that song. Somebody put it in their yearbook, as a matter of fact.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Somebody showed me some time ago. But it didn't light up the phones at MTV. I mean, it just didn't work. And so the record company said, you know, unless you get a tour or something, we're going to have to go back to the drawing board. And so we said, that's when we managed to finage. old a rat tour. Rat, those guys liked us.
Starting point is 01:01:23 We were creating enough buzz without a successful single that they wanted to put us out on the road. What year was that? That was 86. That was, uh, that was 86 approximately. Lay it down tour. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, I think it was the second record.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Right, because the first one was rat and roll. No, first, they released a four-song EP first. Right, right. With wanted man and something else. Then they released an album, then the second one, whatever the fuck got it. But because of getting the Rat tour, Enigma Records said, we'll give you another single, but we're not going to give you that kind of money for a video again,
Starting point is 01:02:05 because it didn't work. And we said, just give us a video, we'll make it work. So it was a very inexpensive video, which is why Talk to EME has no continuity to it. It's like, we don't have time to make all this, have all this perfect, filmatic continuity. We're just going to make it a fucking party.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Like, we're having a party. We're doing this video. There's the cameras. There's the camera guys. Put them all in. It's all fun. Let's just do it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:32 And I think that energy translated because when that video came out on MTV, people really connected with it. They connected with the fun aspect of the song, the fact that we were just really, really wanting to take fun rock and roll to another level. You know what I mean? We were living in absolute shit at that time. So you fantasize about what would it be like if you were playing arenas and we did have all the things that we wanted.
Starting point is 01:03:00 We'd write songs about how we wanted our life to be. You know what I mean? Not how it was, but how we wanted it to be. And we weren't going to like bathe in our own shit and write all these shitty lyrics. Some people did it that way. But we didn't. We were like fantasized. We're going to be positive.
Starting point is 01:03:16 We're going to come up. And that song just connected. And when I did meet Michael Jackson back to that for a second, he said that was one of the funnest videos he's ever seen. That was pretty cool. So when somebody else would cut us down and say, oh, poison sucks, it's like, look, Michael Jackson loved our video, so fuck you. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:36 David Bowie likes our video. Fuck you. You guys had a lot of great videos. I mean, MTV, it's a shame to see that I grew up on MTV. you know when I grew up on fucking MTV and now I turn it on it's some fucking pregnant chick and she can't afford the kid and she's married to Bruno
Starting point is 01:03:56 I fucking you know what we I think poison was really meant for that that medium it was a perfect timing it all worked yeah I mean Brett works great in that medium I think all of us you know CC's great in front of it you know right
Starting point is 01:04:13 up front in front of the camera you know I mean it's just I think synergistically, our band just works so well in the video medium. It just, and at that time, they approached videos like they were little movies. I mean, Marty Collar and all these amazing video directors, they went after it like they were doing a film. Remember the time they got the smuggler's blues? Remember Glenn Fry's smuggler's blues? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:41 That was a short fucking film. God, thriller came out. Frill was a short film. Aerosmith, the videos they were making, forget about it. I still remember sitting at home with our buddies in 1982 because Al-Donovo was the midnight, New Year's Eve. And I'm like, who the fuck is Al-No-Novo? That guy's a good guitar player. He's a great guitar player.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I heard that years later he's written like he's still around writing songs to fucking people. Yeah, he's the real deal. When does this tour start now? We start May 18th here in Irvine, and we finish now in Florida. I want to say Miami, I believe, don't quote me on that, on the 1st of May, or not May. 1st of July, yeah. So we go May to July. It's a quick tour, but it's big cities. It's, you know, we're hitting it hard. It's going to be awesome. I mean, original lineup, everybody, you know, cheap tricks out there with us. Pop Evil's a great band. I mean, it's going to be a blast,
Starting point is 01:05:38 man. It's a, what a way to kick off spring, you know. Ricky, next time I have you on, I want you to come on earlier so we could talk long. I hate putting people into traffic. Oh, yeah. What time is it, anyone? It's 3.45, so I want to get you out of here. I just want to tell you, I love you to all my heart. Ever since I met you've been a gentleman, you know, the jiu-situ thing, you inspired me that day with Danny and the Santa, how sweet you are.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And I know what you've been through, and you're a fucking soldier, and I love you. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. And you always have an open door here, and, you know, we'll support the... too soon? No. No, you can come back whenever the hell you want. I just, I want to do it two hours just talking about arm bars.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Shit, yeah. Because that's, I know you, you love it. Then next time we'll do symbols. Dude, you know what? I mean, if, you know, if I felt like I could keep everybody in my vlog, I've done some jiu-jitsu stuff, it doesn't get the most response, you know, people like it. You know what I mean? Well, not this week.
Starting point is 01:06:41 But people don't get it the same way. I want to do a film so bad, just so you know, about jiu-jitsu and grappling, so that people, some way for people to really, really understand what's going on. Because, I mean, I was like, who is it, the middleweight champion right now, the black dude who's amazing. Tyrone Wood. Yes. He was talking, he did an interview, and he's talking about Damien Maya.
Starting point is 01:07:13 where it's like Damien Maya sometimes will act like he's getting beat up so that they'll go in for the kill. When they go in for the kill, that's when he grabs a hold of you. Okay. And these are the types of things that people, the average person has no clue about. They don't know what's going on in the mind of grapplers. You know, punching is a little more obvious, you know. You swing and you hit the guy, okay? With grappling, it's so subtle.
Starting point is 01:07:39 You'd move your hip this way, lean the weight this way, all the, a shit, you know what I mean? Hickson calls it invisible jiu-jitsu, all the stuff that happens that isn't obvious to the naked eye. And I would love to do a film or some special or a documentary that really concentrates on getting people to understand what is going on, maybe in slow motion, maybe with narrative, maybe a combination of both. But I'd like to talk to you about that. When does the vlog get released? I'm on vlog 13, number 13 already. So I have 13 vlogs already. And your YouTube pages, what?
Starting point is 01:08:16 It's Ricky Rocket. Ricky Rocket. And it's a Rocket vlog. And you release the blogs when? Usually on Wednesdays, but sometimes I do it Tuesday. It depends on the kids' schedule. I want to ask your permission for some. Is it okay?
Starting point is 01:08:29 Not this week coming. The following week, if I pay Magno and come down and you teach me a move on camera and we put it on the blog. Let's do it. Fuck yeah. Simple sweep to Camora. I'll be more than happy to do it with you. I will teach you the rock star roll-up. This is what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Let me give some shoutouts real quick, and I'll get you out of here. Austin Moneyball, Schmachter, Stephen Cruz, Bob Lillings, I love you, Barrow Yexley, Matt Borgias, Shary Robbins, Danny Porter, and Steve Robbins.
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Starting point is 01:12:43 a fucking blast. I've been wanting to have you on for two or three years and you made my fucking week. Have a great fucking weekend. Anything you want to tell these people just to talk? I love you. I love you too. Christ killer. Stay black, baby.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Let's close up with some poison here. Thank you again. Thank you. This is us. Has it dawn Just like every cowboy Seems his sad Say it's song
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