The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #586 - Rick Ramos
Episode Date: May 22, 2018Rick Ramos, a stand up comedian, actor and the host of the "Watch This with Rick Ramos" podcast, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: FujiSpo...rts.com - Use promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount on all the best jiu jitsu and martial arts gear. Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout. Recorded live on 05/21/2018.
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May 22nd
The Christ Killer
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And Rick Ramos
Movie critic
Podcaster
Movie reviewer
Be a friend
The theme is revenge
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Tuesday morning, you bad motherfuckers, I missed you.
Long week last week.
I want to thank Providence and the comedy connection
for having me last week.
Two sold-out shows.
And then my man fucking Vinnie Brandstress Factory.
You guys were phenomenal.
I'm sorry about the heckler Friday night late show.
He threw my timing off.
You know, I'm deaf in one fucking year.
And I'm all fucked up, and this guy wouldn't shut the fuck up.
But that's it and that's that.
I had a great time.
Thank you very much.
for making my homecoming
always a fucking pleasure
on the way back
I had the pleasure
of flying back
with Kate Quigley
and Andrew Dice Clay
and Andrew Dice Clay
is the funniest man alive
who's getting away
free don't are bagels
on the fucking flight
to people
and two chicks actually
took the fucking bagels
there don't get the fucking
it wasn't two guys
it was too broads
it took the fucking bagels
unbelievable
can you imagine
getting a bagel from Dice
at six in the morning
like four
we were on that plane
at fucking four
we boarded that
motherfucker at five
to eight,
15 a.m.
Oh, my God.
Up all night.
I went over and my brother picked me up in New Brunswick.
Yeah.
I got to hand it to George.
You know, I've known him since I was fucking 15, the summer of 79.
I've known that lunatic.
And, but he's such a, his whole family, like, you know, he saved my life.
He's another guy.
Yeah.
But he picked me up in New Brunswick.
Went back to his house.
He made fresh chicken colors, Italian style, with the breakfast.
crumbs then i must have had 18 of them and then he whips out a fucking box from
rispoly's a bakery a famous bakery and he got two lobster tails and a fucking
canoly in that motherfucker this lobster tail has his velvet cream in that motherfucker i didn't
care about points i was going to say you just didn't fuck points on then he brought me some double
caffeine starbuck coffee or some shit i drank that with the fucking lobster tail i was off
and running we stayed there till three
45 for the car came and got me the car came and got me at 3 30 yeah it was just 12 30
you know a dear friend of mine travels a lot and I asked her how she deals with stuff
and she said that she always stays on that way time when she travels regardless what people want
and that was always weird to me I don't I fight it I try to go to bed at 12 and it's a
motherfucker oh no it sucks dick but anyway who gives the fuck the theme is revenge I was talking to
Rick a few weeks ago we're talking about movies ago we're talking about movies
I told him I wanted them back on the film.
I'm back on the podcast and you know why have Rick on if you're not going to discuss films.
I'm not going to have Rick come on in and talk about baseball.
So yeah, they're going to win it.
They're not going to end well.
So I was thinking about how many films I like that are about revenge.
Yeah.
But then after I spoke to you, I thought about revenge from many different angles.
Like if you watch Rocky, it's about revenge.
revenge. It's about a guy getting one shot. There's some, there's so many themes for revenge, you know?
It's thematically, it's like everything has been against me for so long. People have been
shitting on me. People have been saying that he isn't worth the fuck. And yet, I got to believe in me,
because I'm like the only person that will. And whereas other people will write shit off or will
allow, they'll allow the shit to come down on them. I'm going to finally get my balls back and say,
no not this time it's going to be different this time and that's you're absolutely right it's a revenge
against the self it's a revenge against everybody who has said it's a revenge against mickey it's revenge
against the leg breaking and the fucking fight game as a whole that's a beautiful example of that yeah
it was crazy because a kid hit me i said something on the periscope this morning and uh the greek
hit me up from toronto and he was like fucking did you think about godfather too and i'm thinking
about even godfather as a whole you know it's true like he waited in the bushes yeah for 50
fucking years veto and he went back there and stabbed the fucking guy which is a tremendous scene and it's
great too because the guy is damn near death as it is but veto needs to be the one veto needs
this guy and he lets him know vito andolini you know i you know i come from this place and this is for
you cut some right at the batting or something fucking he says some crazy
He cuts them from the lower part of the belly all.
In the main clip, they don't show when he blows up the guy that let, he blows up the guy
in the pizza parlour in Buffalo, New York.
They don't show that in the movie cut, the theater cut.
But when you get the ones with the added scenes and they cut out, which if you watch the
movie and you see some of the added scenes, you wish that they stay the fuck out, especially
a lot of James con scenes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They were pretty fucking bad.
Well, that's the thing.
But sometimes these directors go back.
I mean, I mean, fucking Coppola did it with Apocalypse.
I mean, some of the shit that he put back in was good.
Some of that shit, that whole plantation scene.
I mean, God damn.
It just slows the movie down.
You know, I understand what he's trying to do with it.
But if the idea of it is good and the execution is bad, you've got to just keep it out of there.
Who are your favorite directors right now?
Right now.
I still love Gilliam.
I still love Scorsese.
Fincher hasn't made anything really great in a long time, but, but now it's just like a free for all.
It's like everything that's, it's almost like these, these directors, these directors don't exist on that same level as you're like, oh shit, there's going to be a Scorsese film coming out this month.
Like, like, remember when Goodfellas came out and you were like, shit, this is going to be, this is Scorsese going back to what he knows.
and then I would go and see Kundan or Age of Innocence or bringing out the dead.
Anything that the man did, it was the passion of that.
I know Terry Gilliam is finally getting ready to make the man who killed Don Quixote,
which from the previews doesn't look like it's going to be very good.
But this guy for years has always impressed me with his visual sense, you know?
But like right now, I can't say that there's too many young directors.
I mean, Fincher's already in his 50s.
Christopher Nolan is already up there.
Who the fuck is out there making great films?
You know, I'm...
It's almost impossible to pin it down to one director doing really good work right now.
Let's go back a second here.
Yeah.
Because this is something that I want to discuss that's been bothering me for a long time.
You know, Lee and you, Lee asked you when we came in before the podcast started about movie pass and all this shit.
Yeah.
And it's so weird.
He also asked you a really weird question,
which a lot of people don't ask.
Of Lee's age, he asked you when the new Beverly was going to reopen.
Yeah.
Let's put our cards on the table here.
I fucking grew up in a movie theater.
Yeah.
I grew up in a movie theater.
And the movie experience was easy.
Yeah.
It was like everything else in this life, you know.
Flying used to be a breeze.
You could smoke in the air.
You could drink in the air.
You get up and get up and sit with your friend.
And then they ruined it, you know.
Everything has become this fucking,
everything has become this fucking semi-communistic.
If you saw life back then,
you'd see how much freedom has been taken from us
in so many ways,
from the videos to the fucking,
to the fucking hemispheres,
one of those things that the kids have with the cameras.
You know, you can't commit a legit crime.
Oh, yeah, the drones.
Yeah, the drones.
You commit a crime, they find the body.
They tap into a camera.
They'll find you.
They'll see you digging that fucking drone.
Everything is DNA.
Everything is on fucking tape.
So even the movie theater experience has been taken from us.
The movie experience, Lee said to you,
well, some of the movies have selected seating or assigned seating.
What are you talking about?
Oh, yeah.
I said what the fuck I want.
Not anymore.
Not anymore.
Depending on the theater.
Yeah, you would like to.
But places like the arc light, places like some of the AMC theaters.
Cinema now is the $8 theater.
To be honest, I like it.
I like what they're doing
I like the comfortable seats
But the issue I have with movies right now
And the reason why
I wouldn't go to movies
With that movie pass
Is and I'm not saying they're bad
Because everyone says movies are bad now
But it seems like they went from making
Like films or store
Like
Full on like worlds
Yeah
And now they're just making like themes
Like oh this movie
Is a love story with
With a comedic love story
And this one, like they had an emoji movie.
Yeah.
They have the Kong movie, which I heard with the rock wasn't terrible.
But like, it's just a way for the rock to, to blow stuff up.
It's going to be the rock doing what the rock does.
And it's all going to be CGI.
But the thing is that when you, when you find, I love old movies.
And the fact of the matter is they are better movies.
There are better stories.
They were told better.
They were told with more heart and passion.
But you also had actors that you and I could relate to.
these were actors that you wanted to be you wanted to be lee marvin you wanted to be
bronz and there's not an actor working today that i look at going yeah that that's a cool
motherfucker that i wish i could be for a minute you know you gotta understand one thing
most of the people who listen to the show yeah a young yeah it's people and you don't want to
sound like that guy like i never want to sound like that guy that or 30 years ago you should
seen but in many ways it's an it's an eye-opening experience when you see them film from the
70s and you see a cellular and you see a rotary phone and you see different things that do not
exist today are not even close to existing but the movie theater experience like name me one
fucking movie theater around here but I go to the movies at midnight is there one there is one
I know Lee likes one well but we were talking about that before you got here
First of all, I'd be scared to go to a movie at midnight.
Really?
I'm thinking about somebody's going to come in and jerk off a midnight.
I used to love midnight movies were the best.
I love it.
Lee, I grew up on a midnight movie.
Every fucking Saturday there was a different rock movie or they played.
I went to see Apocalypse at midnight at the midnight showing, you know, on acid.
I always used to hate that about, I mean, I hate it.
I got mad in New York because in New York, like, I'd take a 6 a.m. bus if I'm out at four,
why don't they have 24-hour movie theaters?
I never, especially now.
Because people go into the sleep.
Yeah, well, yeah, we had to get rid of a 12 o'clock movie that's an event. Yeah, I'm talking about a fucking event at midnight. That's what I'm talking about. It's a rare thing that they do that now. They'll do that when a Marvel movie opens. They'll play at 24 hours a day. I remember seeing a, I think it was the first Star Star Wars reboot. They were playing that from 7 p.m. until 3 or 4 in the morning, shut the theater down for a couple hours and then started up again 8 a.m. I mean, they'll do it.
when it's an event when they know they can pack them in and they're trying to get as many people
into the place as possible but you're not going to see you but the thing is like when we were kids
you didn't have Netflix you didn't have Hulu or amazon prime you couldn't pull up so much shit
just there you didn't have that available to you so the theaters the you know the theater's got to
make money and it costs money to staff it it costs money to to light that place to keep it running
um so they're not
going to have people coming in to do that
and they're not going to give the opportunity
when it's only going to be three or four people.
How much is a moving fucking ticket at Lemley?
At Lemley? A Lemley is about
$12, $13,000, I think.
$13 fucking. They need
that much from you to keep the fucking lights on
and shit. And that's a weird thing. Like, they don't get
much of the ticket price.
They get all their money from concessions. Most of the
ticket price goes back. But
I was just going to ask you guys, like, what do you
say? How much blame do you put?
Because I know they, like, of course, it's a business.
but $5 candy can it be $3 candy and then and because what you're telling me is the movie theater
doesn't make a dime at the door I'm not thinking they make a very small percentage they make a very
small percentage that all goes back to it all goes back to the studio really yeah I think I think
probably 80 plus percent I did not know that yeah they make their money off of concessions
that's why it's so ridiculously expensive that's why if you got to the last time I took a woman to see a
popcorn, sodas, and a candy bar cost me $30.
It was fucking ridiculous.
I went to Lemley one time.
I got a sign to go watch a movie for a podcast.
This had to be 10 years ago because I was still 11 years ago.
I was still living in Hollywood.
And it was a Disney movie.
And the girl who works a rotten tomatoes, whatever I mean.
Great.
She had the office downstairs.
She had it at the time with Anna Bader.
They were together at that time at the podcast and they asked me to be on about film and they said go see this film
I figured let me take my wife to the fucking Lemley
We dropped the half a yard exactly
Because we got the sauce the chicken sauce and sandwich and shit
I remember going home that night and sitting there going I'm not cheap
Yeah, by no means I'm my cheap
But a half a yard to go to the fucking movies with your wife is a lot of Doree meat and that was my point
I think that's what it gets because people now
How many of us have a home theater in her house for not that much money?
But I can't watch a movie anymore in television.
I can't.
It's very difficult.
I enjoyed Black Panther on the plane the end of the day.
When I got on the plane and Black Panther popped up on fucking Delta, I was done.
Like I had downloaded a bunch of shit and I'm like, psh.
Yeah.
I don't have to watch that stuff.
Look at this, Black Panther.
I watch it.
You know, on a plane, I do not get disturbed.
I could sit here all fucking day in the phone with a fucking ring.
Go to the movies with me.
For three days, I'll sit here, and by Thursday, I'll go to leave.
There's no sense to sit here.
Let's go to a movie.
And my world ends.
They've got to see me in 20 minutes.
They're casting.
Are you available Friday for this whole day?
Everything comes in.
As soon as I step foot into that fucking Lenny on Lancash.
As soon as I step foot in there, the fucking thing goes off.
Yeah.
So what happens is even if I don't answer the phone, my mind is thinking, why is Lee calling me twice?
Yeah.
Why is Rick calling me four times?
There's somebody that can hit by a car.
Now I actually get up to go pee, and there goes the fucking movie.
You can't do that.
There goes to a movie theater.
I usually go at the time when I realize, okay, have I booked anything for tomorrow?
Do I got some extra work tomorrow?
Do I have something else that I can do that I'm not going to have to be, I'm not going to be beholden to the phone,
where it's like, now I got to check it, now I got to check it, now I got to check it because I've done that.
And it fucks up the movie watching experience.
know you know and I I don't want to be the guy that's checking his phone in the
fucking theater because I hate that guy I don't want to do that you know but it
does take you out of the movie watching experience now you get sued correct if if I
when I first started comedy I started comedy at the broker in and mold that's not
why I started I started the demo County works but the broker did comedy and the
broker was very they were cool as fuck yeah this is I'm talking 91 okay it was
the known hot spot on Wednesdays
It was called like professional or whatever.
They gave away shrimp.
So you had every fucking mama look at it.
You know, when you give everybody had cologne on.
Everybody was looking to meet and mingle.
It was a fucking hysterical scene, but the food was delicious.
And I did comedy there on Tuesdays.
Tuesdays was steak night and they had comedy.
Monday was Monday night football.
And they'd have fucking finger food.
Lee, you'd go crazy.
They had little hot dogs and shit.
And shrimp.
Yeah.
They always had shrimp.
Where did they get shrimp from in Colorado?
I have no idea.
I didn't buy that shit in.
I used to eat it, shit blood, and keep eating it.
You could do it back then, though.
And the first Sunday of every month was a seafood or you could eat.
And they had a salmon that was out that he went and took pieces of.
You have no idea.
It was heaven.
But I never forget.
I went to the buffet one time, and the juices weren't included.
And they banged me $7 a glass with fresh squeeze orange juice.
I'm over there.
drinking iron juice like I got the hiv.
I drank like 20 glasses. I was not
like a buck 40 fucking, you know.
Just in juice. Just in juice.
I couldn't fucking believe everybody was mad at me.
How the fuck do you drink 140 dollars in fucking juice?
That's how much juice I used to drink.
Because the more juice I drank, I figured they got rid of the cocaine, the vitamin C.
But my point being on Sunday night was movie night.
Yeah.
At the place?
At the bar.
And they would play two old movies.
Like two Clint Eastwood, two Charles Brown.
and two car you know something of the theme yeah and they would charge five bucks to get in
and that's where they went wrong and free something like finger food yeah and people go in their
fucking pajamas and sit in a booth yeah and watch movies on sunday and i always figured out how
the fuck they got away with it for years because nobody's reporting it you know if you're doing
it under the radar and nobody knows and they can't say anything but all it takes is one person to go
to call in and say, you know what?
This company is charging for that.
Let's say some asshole goes in there and he,
he throws something on a waitress.
She rejects him.
Now his attitude is,
I'm going to call up the studio or I'm going to call up some legal people and say,
hey,
they are showing movies and I know you guys aren't getting a cut out of that.
So it's rat shit,
you know,
it's them ratting somebody out for just doing it,
you know?
Now, the purpose of having a movie thing is to make money.
Yeah.
Now in 1995, 1985, I lived in San Francisco.
And on the northern end of Haydashbury, two blocks away from the park, was a movie theater that you went into and they had couches.
Yeah.
All right.
And they basically had three rows, three, four rows of couches, all different couches.
They went into a flea market and just bought couches.
The place probably seeded, I don't know, nine.
60 you know perfect you know each couch maybe four people could sit yeah and they opened up at 11 and
they had a matinee they had homemade chocolate chip cookies you see the cookies going on in the tray
and people would put them in the oven and then would take them out and serve them and they also would
have you know those bars of butter they would have the bar of butter and they would put
real butter on the fucking popcorn I mean this was just superb yeah and they had little and they had
little footstools. If you wanted to put a footstool up, you could sit there. I forget what it
cost to get in. But I remember sitting there going, how do they make money here? You know, I went
to see mask there with Cher and Rock. Eric Stolts and, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I went to see masks there.
And I was blown the fuck away. Yeah. Until this day, that would be a dream for me to move to some
small town and open up a small movie theater that just plays old films. You know, who would have to
pay a victor. Well, you know, you don't.
There's not much.
That's why it's like they have dollar theaters and stuff still, which are great,
older movies.
Yeah, they're going to put out the dollar.
They're going to put out those cheap movies because there's not a lot of,
it doesn't cost them much except to get the film to you.
And now they can do it digitally.
So it's, it's much easier now.
You project it.
Whatever you make on charging people to get in, that goes to the studio.
That has to go to the studio.
That dollar, that $2.
That dollar, that $2.
So I would make my money from making fresh pizzas.
Exactly.
Shrimp cocktails and now a lot of these places are serving liquor now so they got it they got it in their head
They got the right thing the arc light
There's a theater in in Pasadena and and
West LA I pick it's great
They'll have couches. They'll have these big
Lazy boy recliners
What's I? I pick it's just a fancy they have it on floor I won my dad
They have regular like reclining seats but then in the back where the better seats are
They have they give you like kill
like nice little blanket and they have waiter service in the theater so you know you
you just go sit straight down call them they bring the m&Ms in like a little martini
glass i've seen waiter service mm-hmm in nineteen ninety eight in toronto yeah they were already
ahead of the fucking game in 98 they had a movie theater that had wait waiters waitresses
i think they brought your beer i don't want to say that for sure yeah i'm not saying that for sure
but yeah yeah once you start doing that people off a bloor yeah that that that's that
That's the thing that brought people in there because people people still love the movie watching
experience going out because now you're committed to something.
You got to make the effort to get out of your house.
Look, when you're sitting at your house and you're watching a movie, you got your kid there.
You got your wife doing, you know, maybe she's balancing the checkbook.
Maybe she's talking about what you guys are going to do for the next day.
She's preparing something in the kitchen.
You got a million fucking phone calls coming in.
We've got the internet that's, you know, you're on your phone checking to see if there's,
somebody sent something to you when you're in a movie theater it's less likely for any of that to happen and if you're if you can really tell yourself you know what I'm going to see a movie I'm not fucking around with anything when I go I turn my phone almost completely off I don't want to deal with it I don't want to I don't want to think about it I just want to watch that movie for two fucking hours I mean it's on until the movie starts and as soon as it's finished it's on again but while the movie is on I'm watching this shit I'm dedicated and especially
if it's something that I've seen that I love or it's a director that I do like or or
an actor doing something but the problem is that nowadays it's like I find myself going to
movies just because hey you know I got the past I might as well just go see this movie
yeah I'm bored out of my mind no and nothing comes true to you anymore nothing is it's so it's
hard you leave and go and you you know while I was talking to you I was thinking about like
your ideal movie theater experience would be,
I don't even, I don't want to wait it.
I'm,
I'm not my own fucking food.
Yeah, you know.
I don't, I'm fat.
I don't even bring food.
I hate food in movie theaters.
I like, uh,
I like to get pizza at a movie theater.
Really?
Yeah, like slices of pizza, like two,
get a whole pie,
like a good, good New York style pie at a pizza.
Yeah.
I'd like a reclining chair,
on the table next to me and the guy four feet away from me.
See, that's, though.
I'll pay 20 for that.
See, I'll pay the 20 for that.
No, absolutely.
You know, I don't want to wait.
Yeah, you know what?
Yeah.
If he wants to wait on me, fuck it.
But it does, it does get a little bit, uh, for everyone else because they see the waiter walking in.
They talk a little bit.
That's like that's like that's a whole point when you're like, oh, I'm not watching this at home because I have distractions.
And it, it, I, like, it hurts my feelings almost when people come to movies and talk.
Oh, I'm like.
I can't stand it.
I, you know.
No, I can't.
I can't.
When they're having a full.
conversation or somebody picks up their phone and has a conversation get the fuck out of
there or if you know the Mexicans are the worst because they'll come in there with their kids
it'll be deadpool you'll be watching something ridiculously we're just ridiculous to have a child
in it'll be 11 o'clock a night and they'll have their fucking kids in there and I'm just sitting
like my god my people are fucked up but this is the kind like like I'll go out of my way
Like I'll never see a blockbuster film on a Friday or Saturday or even a Sunday.
I'll go Monday when I know that there's nobody going to be there.
And there's no chance of me really getting an audition or getting called for any bullshit.
I like to go to the 10.30 or 11 a.m.
Knock that shit out by one.
And now I got my whole day ahead of me too.
Plus it helps me wake up in the morning, you know.
It's a good thing to start the day with a movie.
But there's going to be fewer people in there, which is great.
That's a sad aspect of my life.
It is.
It's a sad aspect of my life that the biggest movie I've seen the last six months is Black Panther.
And I saw it on the plane and that the movie theater experience has been gone from me for close to 20 years.
No, because I enjoyed movies.
I still went to move.
I still going to see payback with Mel Gibson and Ralphie Mae and I'm just.
30 a bunch of us went to see payback yeah so so it's been probably maybe 15 years yeah
i felt like it wasn't going to the movies anymore i felt like i was getting beat well you know
i love going to the movies when it's a crowd we you me i think i think arie edwin and all went
to see the movie about clinicewood with the chinese family we saw that but we also saw godfather
we saw we saw godfather too we saw it at the
the arc light, we might have been in the Cinerama Dome, and it was great.
It was fucking fantastic, but it was a bunch of friends reliving this great film watching
experience, because up until that point, I don't think I'd ever seen The Godfather That You
in a theater.
I think I saw it for the first time in the theater with you guys.
I had seen it on TV.
I'd seen it on broadcast, but also I'd seen it on DVD, but seeing it with you guys
was on a whole other level, because you got that camaraderie there.
We're sitting there.
We're laughing.
We're having a good time.
We're screaming out, you know, and we're reliving something that all of us had experienced at one point or another in our lives.
But now we're together doing it.
But you're right.
Like the going to the movies by yourself thing, that's hard now.
That's hard.
I love it.
Because.
I don't see.
That's the thing.
I'm not going to dump a friend if they don't talk during a movie if they do that.
But I'm not going to go see a movie with them.
Well, that's the thing.
Yeah.
You're not going to.
and it becomes very difficult to find those friends
that are not going to talk during a movie
that are not going to check your own.
I'd rather be honest with you.
Between you and they,
I'd rather go to the movies by myself.
I'm not going to lie to anybody.
I've always been a movie,
because I don't like drama.
I don't want to get to your house.
If I tell you, get ready, 11 o'clock,
because we've got to go for Chinese by 1120
because the movie starts to the quarter of the 12.
I already told the Chinese guy yesterday
I was going to be 1115.
to be ready for me.
Like, it was an event.
Like, I was telling Lee, you know, I never got to see this.
But when I heard this, I always dwelt on it.
I took a marketing class in college at the University of Colorado, some intro or whatever class.
And they were talking about how in the 60s and 50s, when a new car would get out, would be released.
They'd say the new Chevrolet comes out September 1st.
Yeah.
That car was in the showroom, August 1st, with a blanket on top of me.
And every day people would walk up just to take a peek under the blanket.
You'll see if they could look under the sheet, whatever the fuck you want to call it.
That was over the car, you know.
It created a sense.
It created a different feeling in you.
That's what I still remember being a little boy and watching the trailer for the French connection.
And like, I couldn't wait for that.
fucking movie to come out you know I could judge a movie now today by a trailer yeah I could
it doesn't take a genius like no you could you could see that this is the gold of this movie
you could tell yeah so like I said to you I felt beat by the movies when I went that time my
wife it was like two or three times I went to the movies I went home and said that was a great
movie but why did I do this a month like I had to pay the park walk a mile
Yeah, like I did all this shit to go to this fucking movie that was so fucking expensive for that I could have been helicoptered in for it spent
Yeah, I could have been helicoptered in and again I'm not talking about being cheap and it's the same across the board
Listen man when it comes to comedy. I got greedy fucking agents and they will call me sometimes and go this is the contract and I go
Why is the ticket $36? Yeah
and they'll go, well, you, and I go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're blue column.
I'm a blue column in town.
A movie theater used to be, you went to a comedy club if the movie was sold out.
What's a fucking movie now?
Okay, I get it.
But when they come to me with these deals, I tell them, listen, keep it at $25.
That's two tickets, $50.
That's the general shit to go out.
You know, we get robbed at every level in this country.
Yeah whether it's a baseball game whether it's a fucking legged game you a guy like you can't afford a leg a game
No you know what most people can't afford to fly anymore
Could look at plane tickets sometimes you're like how mm-hmm you know if if if if I was a baseline comic right now
Yeah I'd be starving I'd be starving I'm telling you right now because what did they pay a baseline comic 12 to 1,500 a minute maybe no plane ticket
I know no no no
You got to fly like a fucking, like a Mamook, you know,
you got to fly like through one of those buzz saws that you sit in the back with luggage and, you know, you have no,
that's the only way you make a profit.
You have to sell T-shirts and CDs and you can do it all the way you sell.
And that's what everybody says. That's what they do.
And now you've got to put it on the plane too.
So now you've got to pay the freight on the plane.
No, no, no, no.
It's, it's amazing what it takes to make a living.
But it's also amazing.
You know what?
These people charge you
from their services anymore.
You know, I compare ticket prices all the time
when I fly.
And even like JetBlue meant,
it's, if I take a flight,
a year before,
if I buy a ticket,
a year before an American to Kennedy,
even with my platinum fucking status,
I won't get an upgrade.
Like, I've never got an upgrade
to New York or Chicago.
I figure out a way all the time
to get half the ticket off on JetBlue,
and I have the club pay for the other half.
And I take that one with the bed on the way back.
I fly there like a fucking Mamook in the straight seat.
And on Sunday, I don't want no drama.
Yeah.
When I go through the airport on Sunday, I've already gone through five shows.
I've talked to fucking 800 people, and I'm fucking done.
I don't want to see nobody.
I don't want to explain myself.
I don't want to do nothing.
Yeah.
But it's weird.
Once the movie industry did it to me, boom.
Well, the movie industry did it because they were losing.
They were losing once cable hit and and not only did cable hit now you could they they were getting money out of
They were getting money out of repeats of movies, but then they started
They started doing original content Netflix, Hulu Amazon red you know YouTube red they all have their own original contact and because of that
People aren't going to movies like they used to they'll go to a big they'll go to a big they'll go
go to, they'll go to something like Avengers, uh, the new Avengers film, a new Marvel film
is going to make money no matter what, Black Panther was going to be huge, no matter what,
but you have to spend each one of those, each one of those movies costs about 150 to
300 million to make. Now you have to make, now you have to make about 600 million to a
billion dollars just to break even and I mean, that's according to their, their fucking,
their accounting. It can't possibly be right.
But they fucked themselves by creating all these other avenues because it made it impossible for for movies to sustain themselves.
You can't go to a fucking theater because the theater is going to lose money.
If I go into a movie theater and I'm using movie pass,
so I'm getting my movie for fucking $2 probably, the number of movies that I go see a month.
I do not buy shit when I'm there.
So a guy like that.
me I make them no money I make them no money whatsoever I might sneak a
Snickers bar in with me so now I'm actually fucking them a little bit more
but this is the way it goes I mean once television came in radio went out
it's it's technology advances to a point where whatever existed before
slowly starts to die movie theaters movie theaters are still probably the most
affordable going out kind of thing that you can do because if you think movie
theater is bad try to get a ticket to go see a play at the Pentages that shit
going to see whatever show Wicked or or or Hamilton or any of that a single
ticket's gonna cost you 75 to $100 for that probably more more yeah more and
that's that's like you're gonna take you're gonna take a date out for that now
talk I'll leave the 50 you know I hear to go to Yankee Stadium yeah getting robbed
I heard it's like getting robbed.
Like you just can't believe.
Timmy told me,
I mean, I've had so many friends tell me that they went to Yankee Stadium
and they left their feeling like,
what the fuck just happened?
I mean, shit, right there, right alone,
$20 to $40 to park.
$50?
$50.
Yeah.
I don't know what Dodger Stadium is.
I don't know what Angel Stadium is,
but it's going to be $40 to $50 right there.
I know the football stadium is expensive.
Whatever they play football at
Yeah, well over by USC when they first started
We first found that picture was $100 to park
No
I mean, who knows if it's still that
But yeah, right when it first started
But that's a, it's a college stadium
But it's gonna be right over by LAX
Yeah
So yeah, you're not gonna be able to fly in on Sundays anymore
But they're figuring you know what
We can get this out of the people
If we can get this out of them
And they're gonna pay
Then let's charge it, you know
They have no scruples in that
They got no
They've got no respect for the working out
The fucking schedule and I will not fly in a home game.
No.
Well, it's going to be the Rams and the Chargers.
So it's every Sunday for...
Oh, my God.
For fucking four months.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's that to deal with, you know.
You better be home before nine.
And there's no public transportation in L.A.
So you're fucked either way.
That's why, that's why, you know...
But with that comes different opportunities.
Now it's like, now you've got all these guys...
Now you've got a million fucking actors as basically, basically taxi drivers now.
Ubering all goddamn night long so they can I don't know anybody that's working
Me neither I don't know many people who are working it's okay they cancel superior
donuts mm-hmm I didn't know that I didn't I didn't find that out they canceled fucking
The Mick they can to cancel 9 9-n-mBC picked it up they canceled a lot of shows they canceled a lot
That made me fucking say what that where they're going to go with this yeah yeah
where are they going with this?
Aren't they remaking a lot of shows?
Like they're,
Roseanne's going into the second season.
Will and Grace.
Roseanne Will and Grace is another one that they're rebooting.
I think I can't remember.
But,
you know,
and that's going to use actors as well,
but it's like they're not,
as hard as it has been
to make a living as a comic
and as an actor in past years.
It's damn near impossible to do it.
It's incredibly, I mean,
I don't know.
Like, I'm not.
working at all I'm going out for extra work background work I'm collecting
unemployment and I'm trying to hustle up whatever the fuck I can do you know
everybody's chasing the same nickel have to and in the commercial business right now
well it's it's changed completely I got the lowdown last week it's changed
completely well I remember hearing these stories where you could book a commercial
maybe two commercials and you'd be set for the year so that shit will never
happen again you need to you need to book four or five commercials in a year and I'm having a
hard enough time booking one you know what I got to say I had one commercial that changed my life
yeah that much money and I was dumb I thought it was gonna be like this I didn't know I was young
dumb and full of cum and I took that money and it was overwhelming the amount of money they
paid me yeah for a Taco Bell commercial yeah it was overwhelming
Yeah.
And I booked two other ones at the time.
They were duds.
They were dogs at fleas, seven grand, 13 grand.
Yeah.
For the most, the most person, you'd say, Joey, you should be grateful to get
seven grand.
Not when you made 80 grand in four fucking months.
Yeah.
Jesus.
On a Taco Bell commercial.
80 grand in four fucking months in 1997.
Mm-hmm.
You know, my first commercial was 2003,
2004 over a year and a half spanned about 28,000, which I thought that was great.
That was your first commercial?
That was my first commercial.
And I didn't book another union commercial for 10 years.
All I would book was non-union at anywhere between 300 and 1,500 a pop.
I got lucky on one that hit me five grand, and then they renegotiated it for another
five grand a year later.
but this is why
I was always too afraid to just quit
and to quit teaching
and then just throw myself full-hearted
into that shit because I thought
well if I'm gonna only be dependent on
on acting then I got to stay in LA
I can't even go on the road so I'm gonna
how the fuck am I gonna live off of a $20 spots
here and there?
It's the scariest thing which is what I'm doing now.
It's a very tough
tough transition.
Yeah.
It's a very
very tough transition.
I am very fortunate
that all those years,
I give them thanks
every day. Listen, I thank the comedy story.
I think the improv life. I think all that.
But I give thanks to those young Mexicans
that had all those rooms. And I was
from 2000, from 1998
to 2007, they kept me in cocaine.
Spare food.
You know, donuts.
You ate Mexican food every night.
Every night, Lee.
Every night.
It was crazy.
Five nights a week.
Wild Coyote, Casa Latina.
Me, him and Marilyn Martinez.
And Marilyn knew the scoop on every new Latin room that was opening.
And it was something Lee that I would give my right hand for it today.
Every night we went somewhere.
La Plente, Long Beach, Vysalia,
fucking Ventura
every comic you knew
had a fucking Wednesday
that paid 50 fucking bucks
We played bars
We played pizza parlors
Universal City
Anything anything
All those places that passed
Taco
What's that on the 5?
Which place on the 5?
King Taco
Yeah
I don't give a fuck what anybody says
When I got an assignment to go out
And I passed King Taco
Whether it was $50, $75
$5.30, I was happy because I was getting a fucking taco on the way home on the burrito.
You were eating cheap.
You were eating cheap.
Lee, that's the way it is.
People don't even know.
It's like when I first got to the comedy store, I was sitting out there on the porch with the other idiots.
And we had to go in on Saturday night to sign up for the spot.
Then we had to come back Sunday morning at like 11 noon, maybe.
We had to draw tickets out of a bucket.
then we had seven hours to just fuck around because the open mic didn't start until seven o'clock so we would go over to um macdonald's over there on um over there by by uh by laur cany cany next up poy o'i o'clock yeah and we would each get about five thirty nine cent cheeseburgers and we would take those down and we were we were eating shitty but we were young and we had we were full of life and we had dreams and we were talking about what we were
were gonna do and then some of us started working at the comedy store then that's when she
was paying us $25 a shift yeah 25 a shift yeah that shift could go anywhere from three hours
to fucking yeah to 2 30 in the morning picking up tables yeah 25 dollars that's it still that
mexico i remember in 2007 oh yeah when it's first dried up that mexican because I felt it in my
2008 yeah was when something happened in california and all those bars that were doing comedy
They said, that's it.
That was the writer's strike, pretty much.
It was 2008.
I was a writer strike was when I go, wow, why am I so broke?
Yeah.
And I remember looking going, I had a notebook with all the 40s and 35s and 50s.
And let me tell you something at the end of the week, believe it or not, all those $50 dollars and $75.
You used to add up, though, $40.
They all add up.
Some nights you did three, you did a 75 or 50 and a 40.
You were running, bomb, spot, spot, spot.
spot it was Darren Carter was in the mix I'm there was so many people in the mix
I'm sorry about that today that doesn't exist doesn't exist it's sad the kids
don't hustle no more you would just walk into a bar and go we want to do comedy
here how much you're gonna pay us 300 we can work with that's a headliner that's
a feature and I can pay myself 50 bucks the bar would pay you or you pay the bar
would pay us bar would pay you you would run the thing but you would have to pay the
comics so if you want to be cheap you're not gonna get good comics so you got to be
good to the comics you got it yeah you got to negotiate drink tickets for the comics and you got to have
some type of food yeah that's that's what matters the food and we would we would drive to fucking
oh my god yeah yeah yeah you know you're gonna get a fucking burrito with french fries and we wasn't
gonna eat his i'll trade you you drink tickets for your meal okay you know it was just a camaraderie
type of thing did you guys ever run a room i ran two rooms did you run a room i ran a room out there with javago out in
West Covina, it was a Mexican restaurant.
And we had a couple of good shows, but we couldn't sustain it.
And then I had the Sapphire in Alhambra on Main Street.
And I think I had you out there a few times.
And I had some other people, Maryland.
That's where Martin Moreno got into a fistfight.
Yeah.
With the guy.
That was a great little place.
It was a lounge.
It was just it.
They were all weird places like lounges.
What was the one off on Monday nights that the bars like, you think Sinatra was there?
the guy puts out appetizers and that was that that spot over there on fountain and uh you got off off
the i don't even know that was a great little spot on monday there were so many great little just
and they had a chinese restaurant and there was no white people in there and one of those donut spots
yeah that were fucking mind blowing mind blowing one of the sad things was that you knew if you were
going to make any kind of real money which was like $50 and more you couldn't be in l a yeah you had to go
You had to go to Torrance.
You had to go to La Puente.
Any of these cities.
Yeah.
Up north had a thousand gigs.
Yeah.
You were going up north every fucking night.
Yeah.
Two nights a week.
Letting or Lasquez over there.
La La La.
What's that La?
Not La Canana La.
Lancaster.
Lancaster, yeah.
Lancaster had two gigs.
All these shit off the 170 up there.
There was a bunch of scary gigs up there.
There was a bunch of scary gigs up there.
There used to be a Wednesday night, Latin night,
about 45 minutes from here that served your food.
all that shit
that shit went away for the comics
like bars would pay for entertainment
do you think like younger comics a little bit more
responsible because I just held my
first show and I'm not going to throw anyone
under the bus but one of the comics who we booked
didn't show up so that's always
happened yeah but how do you
if you're going to have a show
it must be kind of stressful a little you got to have
when we were doing it there were always enough
comics hanging around that we could
we could fit somebody in there always fit somebody would go in
yeah but then how do you how do you only tell
one person they get a spot I ran into that too how do you tell one person if eight people are
there you know what if he wants to do it bad enough he will take that spot that's the thing we
we performed in front of two or three people at a time we've performed when when there was no
microphone when the light didn't work where there was no stage oh you didn't give a shit you just
did the fuck you went out there and you told your jokes or you made shit up while you were standing
there oh 100 what i meant to what i meant to say was like if let's say you and joey and
And Darren and Carter were here, and I had one spot to give, puts me in kind of a weird position.
I only give one of you guys.
No, we understand what it is.
Everybody would understand.
I got there for, who got it?
Who got it on your mind?
You don't put it on your mind.
Put it on him.
This is a thing.
I got no time.
We understand.
Yeah.
Okay.
There's people that just show up and they can't do that either.
Yeah.
That's disrespectful.
You just can't show up either.
Oh, I didn't know they did come in here.
Really?
Wow.
This is great.
No, I don't take that shit.
Yeah, you got a lot of assholes just show up one of.
I would tell them all the time in Bray.
I used to run into that all the time.
It just happened in Ontario when I was there.
Yeah, people just show, hey, what's happening?
They start ordering drinks and ordering food.
Get the fuck out of my fucking green room.
Yeah.
Get the fuck out of here.
Don't be ordering food.
Nobody knows you.
Yeah.
Somebody knows you.
Nobody knows you.
Get the fuck out of here.
You got really cool guys.
Yeah.
You got scumbags.
You got really cool people.
And then you got people that just have that they don't, like I've always said,
going where you don't belong.
Don't go where you don't belong.
They didn't invite you and you don't know, don't go.
Well, I'm here to support.
Go support yourself.
Go support the flag.
Go fucking go march or something like that.
Where's Tony Bennett cocksucker?
That's funny, man.
That's funny.
Monday to 20.
First.
Tuesday to 22nd.
I'm sorry, you cocks suckers.
To pick up the pieces when somebody breaks your heart.
I want somebody twice as smart as I
A somebody
I want to congratulate Danny and Tarot are getting married this week
Congratulations Nick Lucas
Josh Brott, Jose Luis Valencia, John Pettesky
It's not Nathaniel, Urban City Chick, Matthew R. R. Kelly.
That's it, that's all you got.
Sorry about that
No problem
I said June 4th were taping the Netflix special
Tickets are gone
And then June 17th or something
At Calusa Casino
I don't know
If you want to come come on out
Let's fucking jump up and down a little bit
And have a fucking good time
The topic of the podcast originally
Before we went off on a fucking that tangentian
Was
Revenge
And
Playing out Revenge movies
The first
The first one I ever seen was Death Wish.
That was the first one I ever saw.
It was the movie theater, you know.
And then you look at Man on Fire, which is another one.
You know, I've always been a big fan of revenge movies.
Somebody, even the movie, Revenge.
Yeah.
With Anthony, Anthony Quinn, Madeline Stowe at her most gorgeous.
Oh, tremendous.
God damn, she's beautiful.
What a great movie.
What a great fucking movie.
Revenge is a little tough.
A little tough if you don't like women getting beat up.
It's a hard one.
It's a hard one to watch, but it's, it's pretty weird, you know.
What about, like, movies that have revenge in the, like, when you said revenge, the two I kept
thinking about were pulp fiction when the guy, when they, like, get out of the sex dungeon,
and then, this might be a little bit too new for you, Joey, but office space, seeing Milton burn
that place down.
Well, that's the thing.
Office space is a good movie.
It's a good movie.
It's a good movie.
It's a good movie.
I've never not liked the office space.
Revenge is a kind of it it revenges is this real thing because every you know we for the most part we live our lives
Taking shit just I mean whether it's your job whether it's a supervisor
Whether it's your your wife or your husband somebody is giving you shit that you can't deal with
The movie that the guy fucking snapped Michael Douglas falling down. Oh my god. That's one of my all the time is that's great
It's like everything everything kicking his ass and he was like no I'm not gonna take
these shit anymore. Where do you snap?
Between where the
101 and the 5 and the 110
all meet. That's where I would snap too.
Oh, fuck yeah. That's where I would snap too.
That's why I don't like to drive people. There you go.
There you go. I tell you,
there's a movie about a guy that nobody
remembers called what? Falling
Down. Lee, have you seen it? No, I've never heard.
Oh, it's great. And it's Michael
Douglas with this crew cut hairdo.
He's just played this, he plays
this fucking white nerd with glasses
on. His wife only
let him see the kid yeah it's a fucking catastrophe you know he's going through a divorce when
i watched that movie i was going through to see what yeah that came out i'm late i must have been
about 97 i think when that movie came out i remember leaving they going boy they know exactly how
the fuck i feel yeah that's 93 i told you wow told you okay i was just getting divorced i was going
through everything. I was broke.
I was living
with Al Coelho and his fucking house
in Arvada,
Colorado. You know,
I was living in a bedroom. His wife would
call me, would page me
10 times a day to ask me
it. It was a horrible situation I was in.
I couldn't see my kid.
I had no money. I was living off the
advance I got from Douglas Toyota.
And I remember that in the
afternoons, I would go to work early.
And if there's nothing going on, you sneak
out for lunch but you go to the mall you steal a car go to the mall eat chinese food and go to a
movie that's what i do i saw 20 movies yeah this is you know i would go see the getaway and all those
movies oh yeah yeah but i went to see that fucking movie with michael douglas that you said and i'll never
forget that movie theater walking out of there going they fucking nailed it they got it yeah how i felt
like his car no no like he just got out of his car it's not it you know what it is he's it's the middle
of the summer he's in that underpass that you go to get on to the 101 well you just got off the
one 10 there's an underpass maybe it's to take you to the one time i don't remember but you're sitting there
and he has this kid looking at him from the back seat of another car his air conditioner doesn't work
he's just fucking pissed off he's sweating his ass off he's been fired from his job he's just in a
bad fucking mental place he's going through a divorce yeah that i was going through at the time i could just
I was feeling fucking horrid in that movie theater at that time.
And he walks out of his car and he just walks away from it.
He's just trying to get to Venice.
And then, Lee, something that couldn't happen, happen.
As he's walking in the neighborhood, they try to mug him.
Oh, no.
And he beats the fuck out of one guy and he yells,
you want the bag?
And they both run away.
I'm not forget that.
Like, he's not having a bad, and he even tells him, guys,
I'm having a really bad day.
Don't make me fuck it.
And they're, like, fucking with them.
What about changing lanes?
Changing Lanes is...
With Affleck and what the...
It sounds like a similar movie.
It's different in that...
Yeah, you...
Have you seen Changing Lanes?
No.
It's Samuel Jackson is a guy who's...
He's been busting his ass to get alone for a house.
And he gets in a car accident with Ben Affleck,
and Ben Affleck is going to a business meeting.
But Ben Affleck doesn't have the time to help him...
For them to fill out the...
the the work so that they can they can get this accident taken care of
Sam Jackson's car won't run he needs to get to the bank at a certain time and
Affleck leaves him there Afflick says sorry it's not my problem you know but
Jackson gets the paperwork that Ben Affleck needs for later on it's a pretty good
movie it's a pretty good movie but I'll tell you right now I ain't no falling
falling down is on a whole other level of but it's like it's weird because
Michael Douglas has this
stature, you know. I mean, Michael Douglas was the white guy of that generation. You know, he was
Gordon Gecko. He was the great white hunter. He was the great adventurer. But now he's this guy who
who did everything by the book and got fucked anyway. And I think that's the part that makes it
resonate with people. The most was like, I'm just trying to be a good guy. I did everything you
were told you told me to do. And now I don't have a job. I don't have a home. My fucking my kid,
My wife won't let me see my kid.
Where the fuck am I supposed to, you know, get this right?
That taps into a psyche, especially of American men who find themselves losing out all the time.
I was, when I walked out of that movie theater, I felt better than I did because I knew that other people were ready to snap.
That's a horrible feeling when none of the cards are going your way.
And every day something else tumbles.
Yeah.
That's a horrible feeling.
Oh, it's absolutely horrible feeling.
And you know what?
It's self-created sometimes.
You created it somewhere.
Oh, yeah.
You left a missing peg.
Somewhere you left something.
Yeah.
And then, because, man, for years it would, like, I still remember getting a call from comedy works, like, getting momentum.
Yeah.
In comedy, like, getting momentum.
Like, people started hiring me.
And I don't listen, I got a call one day that I'm banned from the comedy works.
for sexual harassment.
I don't even know what the fuck they're talking about.
The manager said he saw you grabbing her ass, whatever.
Like that type of shit.
Like I was, you know, every day was,
that was part of many things at that time.
I can't even remember, like, I was getting,
I bounced to check.
My wife found that.
She took me to court.
I mean, it was just that every day was something else.
And that was the main,
that was the main anger bill.
It was me not seeing my child.
She would hold a child.
over me that's a big anger that's a big fuck you that's a big fuck you that's a big
fuck you to overcome sometimes when they're playing games of the kid like I I saw the
writing on the wall thank God yeah I feel very bad today and if I can apologize
to anybody I would but I knew I wasn't gonna get to raise that girl didn't take a
genius from the beginning I got the warning sign so when I went to see that movie
it kind of cleared the air for me a little bit.
And sometimes the movie will do that.
Yeah.
Sometimes a movie is as far affects as the scenes.
Sometimes you'll watch a movie,
and you really, really are relatable to.
You know what movie I felt relatable to,
like, who I always thought I was going to be the catcher in Major League.
Tom Berger.
That's the type of comic I thought I was going to be.
Like, when I first saw that movie, I go, okay, I get it now.
Yeah.
I'm going to be one of those comics that plays in whorehouses and fucking dirty bars and
it's never going to be on TV.
So it really doesn't matter.
Yeah.
But when I saw that movie, like he was like when he goes to dinner and they go, what are you going to pay a lot of money?
And he goes, no, I make the league minimum.
Yeah.
That although that whole thing felt like me.
Yeah.
There's times you go to a movie and you relate to that.
Like, for me, my movie experience growing up was, it was to get away from the noise at the bar.
My mother with her bookmaking, the mother with sports betting, the drugs and all that shit.
It would take me away as a child.
Yeah.
I can name on one hand the movies I saw at the Union City Cinema.
Mm-hmm.
And your heart would stop.
Oh, yeah.
I remember Rocky there and the audience on their feet, cheer.
the whole movie theater yeah at the end of it during the fight oh Jesus yelling
Rocky Rocky Rocky Rocky Rocky the whole movie theater Lee I saw the exorcist
there I still remember seeing the longest yard dead all of us on our feet yelling
mean machine mean machine you know I still remember seeing ended a dragon there
and I still remember seeing the Chinese connection there and the Chinese
connection they actually had a
11 o'clock viewing. You didn't get out of the movie theater until one. My mother would let me go as
like an eight-year-old because it was on 48th Street. The movie theater was on 29th. We would walk home
on Bergamilanders was a straight shot and my mother could call the movie theater. You know what I'm
saying? And check on me that. That's how cool it was. Your mother could call the movie theater.
There was a freedom to that. There was a magic that that doesn't exist now because, I mean,
shit, it was just as dangerous back then. And the seats weren't aware of it. There was no fucking nothing.
No. The seat sliding.
Like, that's it. That's all you had.
If you went back, the seat slided. You didn't worry about comfort.
I didn't care about a waitress.
It was just a general attitude of the movie, how exciting everybody was.
When I go to a movie now, at the other day, I went to eat over at the Greenhouse over here in Lancash.
It's across the street from the Lemley.
They got a Campuchon fucking tap that have rock your world over there.
Cherry, fucking, they got everything over there.
But I sit there and I see people go into the movie theater and they're not movie fans Rick. No
It's more to stand online
It's something else yeah
They didn't go to it. It's
I don't know it feels different
Yeah, the one day I sat there and actually watched them on that line
I don't know what movie it was you know over there. They always have these you know
Intelligent movies at Lemley and shit
You know and I'm sitting there and I'm sitting there and I'm
watching these people online I'm thinking of myself these half these people aren't even here to watch this movie
they want to be on that line yeah they're not film buffs let me tell you something bro
i remember vividly yeah one of the greatest days of my life honestly like if i got like this is how
much of a fucking degenerate i am one of the biggest best days of my life was you weren't allowed to
drive when you were in the halfway house you think that's not yeah i had a car parked three blocks away
and i would park it under trees and bushes and i would walk one way and then walk two blocks and cross
the street and go behind a building and my car was there yeah and i still remember going to see fucking
goodfellas like i had a pager yeah i'm in the halfway house now when i got to prison the prison librarian
gave me the book one day oh yeah he goes you read this book read this book i was blown to
away and then two weeks later in my prison black and white TV Henry Hill was on
2020 and he told all these crazy fucking stories I'm like Jesus Christ yeah so I was
read the book already wise guy and here he was this was way this was a year
before the movie came out when I was in when I was in prison this was a year
before the movie came out they were just trying to
hype it up a little bit like a year before that you know they sold the book and i was in the
halfway house from goodfell's premiered on a friday yeah and dog and in those days you had to give
them a phone number where you were going to go so when i leave there okay so where you headed
i'm headed to lees i s house 666 called water boulevard what's his phone number i got to write
your phone number how long it's going to take me to get there i'm going to take the number three
bus, I'll be there in 40 minutes
and how long are you going to stay there to?
And you have to call when you leave.
So they would have to
verify all this information.
I found the loophole.
I gave him a
pager number.
Did you have to hide your page or something?
No. No, I'll keep it in my
pocket. And because I told them
I needed it for work and I had to
travel for work.
So I went back to court, got a
pass to drive, and I
was allowed to drive cars at work do you follow me yeah i paid a lot to an attorney to do
all this shit because i wanted to get my ass covered there's no way i'm not going to drive yeah
i'm what a fucking lewis and clark i'm gonna walk all over fuck you so i would hide cars
and i would never forget one day i was excited like i woke up like you know when you
open your eyes yeah like oh fuck it's good fella day today and i still remember the chinese
restaurant i went to and how i ate like with the napkin yeah like i was going and i remember
smoking like i didn't give a fuck yeah if they give me a piss test so be it i'm not gonna go see
goodfellas and not be high and when they gave that mailman a beat my brother was a mailman at
the time like running was a mailman i was howled i was howling and that's sunday i had to go to
my wife's family's house for dinner and they had the priest over and the priest said anybody see the
movie Goodfellas on no shit I swear to God father Tom was his name and I mean him just
started dropping knowledge he was loving it he was loving he is his little chubby priest going
when he put his head in the pizza I loved it when he put his head in the pizza thing you know
I'm saying like he like that every movie I went to to me was an event whether it was the
the black dragon the movie of the show gun Harlem whatever that was called or
officer and gentleman like I cite myself up for movies yeah
I had that
I have that still
You know what I have it now
But I don't have it with new releases
It's it's very rare that I have it with a new release
But you're still stuck on the old films
I'm stuck on the old films because
Every once in a while you see
You find fucking gold and I'm not
And I'm like you I don't want to sound like an old man
Who just is stuck in the past
Because the majority of shit that I really love
is from way before I was watching movies.
Because I was,
I was born in 74.
I wasn't really watching movies until about 80, 81,
where I was really, you know,
you would see things and,
oh, that's kind of cool.
And, you know,
your parents took you to see Star Wars or whatever,
or you were afraid of the shark and jaws,
but you weren't watching the godfather.
You weren't watching taxi driver.
So when I discovered taxi driver in like 89,
I was like, holy fuck,
this is out there.
I didn't know anything like this.
I didn't know there could be anything like that.
Or Raging Bull or De Palma's Address to Kill.
I still remember going to movies to see taxi driver.
Yeah.
I saw that movie at the Mayfair Theater in West New York.
That was a little too out there, that movie.
That movie when it came out.
Like, it was known that it was going to be a little too out there.
Yeah, it was too much for most people.
And that movie fucked my world up.
Yeah.
I still remember when that movie came on TV for the first time.
It came on Sunday night.
Sunday night TV.
Didn't they edit the shit out of it?
All they edited the shit.
The whole ending?
Oh, just about everything in it has to go.
I still remember when National TV aired Midnight Express.
I saw Midnight Express in the movie theater,
but I still remember watching Midnight Express in my mother's television.
She had a remote control with four buttons on it.
You got cable and it came with a string with three tears,
with three tiers.
So the third tier was like all the dirty channels.
So if you didn't have the dirty channels,
you could still put it on the tier,
and there would be a line across,
and you could still see like a tit.
And her walk in with a pussy.
It was the creepiest thing.
But when you were 11,
you got to watch it and bang one out.
That's the only way you could jerk off.
You'd be jerking off to a crooked fucking screen.
It wasn't like you kids who could just punch some shit into a computer.
It's crazy.
It was crazy.
But I used to go to hotels that just
played porn. You go to a hotel and it just plays porn.
You go to a hotel and they got no cable and they just play porn.
That's it.
And it's the worst porn.
I drove past on Saturday night, I drove past all the old hotels I used to hang out with.
All those little seedy hotels on Tully Avenue.
There was one on 91st Street that I liked.
If I liked you, like if I was dating you, I'd take you there.
But if I was fucking you, I'd take it to the one on the bottom of my 83rd Street.
It was disgusting.
and they had a room with a jacuzzi
you definitely caught something.
Did they have it on like the sign?
Like did they played XXXX movies?
That's it.
That's all that's in there.
There's no TV. There's no sports.
There's no TV.
There's a TV, but all they play is fucking
porn on Channel 3.
And sometimes they play the porn.
And sometimes they play the porn over and I would hear the guy next door calling the
front desk.
Hey, change the fucking tape already, will you?
It was fucking crazy.
It's fucking.
and the Hindu guys yelling back
I changed the tape
I put the tape in
you want to fuck
you know it's fucking
crazyly
where they just have fuck hotels
and all they have on channel three
that's it
it's just two people
fucking and suckling
you're sitting there with a girl
you know how many hotels
I walked in with a girl
like I walked in to do coke
with a girl
and the first thing you do
is turn the TV on for porn
like nothing happened
that's sexual harassment
and so
just on the TV
Yeah.
Like, even if you don't want to fuck, you're going to fuck because it's on the TV.
It's crazy.
See, to me, like, going to hotels as a kid was great because I never had HBO.
So, like, my brother and I would be like, oh, my God, real sex is going to, like, something like that.
I can't imagine just turning into finding real.
That's it.
That was it.
And I'm not talking HBO porn.
I'm talking porn.
Porn.
Porn.
Yeah.
Fist banging and fucking dicks in your face.
Yeah.
Oh, just ridiculous.
Just disgusting fucking porn.
Then there was a hotel on 69th Street.
That was kind of nice.
And they had Sony Triniton.
Yeah.
So you would steal an ID and go in those days.
New Jersey didn't have licenses with your pictures of it.
And the camera and the thing was a Fugazi.
Yeah.
So he would check in and take the TV.
Oh, my God.
We would rob the fucking TV.
What about the guy whose ID you used?
The fucking police.
Fuck them.
Knocked on their door.
Fuck them.
If I found your wallet
Leet
Beside the cash
Everything in your wallet
Would be utilized for something
At one point
You know once he realizes
Wallet is missing
Start creating an alibi
Because yeah
Yeah
Once your wallet was missing
Consider everything
Even your library card
We're gonna fucking abuse
What if he had a Sony Trintern
Fuck him
What do you mean?
What if he already had one
And they come in his house
That's his problem
I cut you right handed
No that's his
I wouldn't give a flea
I didn't give a Frenchman's fuck
If I went into a gym and I saw you left your wallet in the locker,
as soon as you, I saw you lifting or jump in the pool,
I'd bang your fucking locker.
See, I knew guys like that, but I could never bring myself to do it
because I was always too scared.
I would see opportunity.
I'd be like, I can't.
I'm going to fucking go to jail.
I didn't tell them, oh, you got to try the steam bath.
They go in that bust into their fucking locker.
I did the creepiest shit in the world.
And I would use every piece of,
your card eventually the library everything everything what do you do the books what do you
do the books what are you going to do to his library card like whatever i could whatever i could
finagle there's always an angle it was crazy if you're looking to make a dollar there's always a
weird illegal angle that you can take there always is i never forget i worked at bar mitcher one time
but i'm playing new jersey and they had a door yeah that i had a key to oh like they kept giving me
Yeah.
And, like, there was an office behind.
It was my first night there.
I got a call from the American Bartending Institute.
Are you available to Union Hall?
Are you available to work this private function at the Alpine Country Club?
I'm like, absolutely.
I go down the Alpine Country Club.
It's fucking 20 million Jews.
I don't care.
I got nothing against Jews.
They were nice.
I'm eating.
They had good food.
Trusting.
They invited me to eat.
And they had this room over here.
and every 10 minutes they put bags in there.
I mean handfuls of bags and envelopes.
There was a stack envelopes.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm sitting there by the fucking bar by myself, thinking,
they're over there singing,
I don't on a heat of harm,
the fucking hits of the Jewish culture.
And I'm sitting there thinking,
I got a bust into one of those envelopes.
One.
And I took the key, and I took like 10 of them.
And I had 10 envelopes, five of them had cash in them.
I said, you know what?
I'm taking every fucking envelope.
I took, God forgive me, I took every fucking envelope.
I emptied it out.
I must have got out.
I don't know how much of dough.
A lot of dumb much from dough that I had when I walked in.
I'll tell you that one.
There's some Jewish kids still thinking about that day.
I was a Jewish kid.
They got cards that were empty.
They just got empty cards.
I left the checks.
I left the checks.
Oh, my God.
And I left the gifts.
When that shift was over, dog, I burned ass out of that thing before anybody could find out.
What the fuck happened?
This had to be 19.
now 85 yeah this was 32 fucking years ago I robbed the bomb it's unbelievable talk
about revenge you make you do what you got to do that's that's who you were at that
time you know it's like you're chasing that crazy at the alpine fucking country club I'm
surprised there was at a country club I didn't think they let Jews in there it might have been
a Jew country club who knows what of the movies don't like there's been a lot
One with Travolta, what's that movie about the house?
Whether they move in and the fucking house is falling apart.
Which house is falling apart?
Michael Keaton.
Didn't Michael Keaton do a movie about a, he bought a house?
Oh, no, that's not Travolta.
It was Pacific Heights.
Pacific Heights.
I think it's Melanie Griffith and Matthew Modine.
And they buy a house to flip it.
And Michael Keaton is this fucking psycho-rentice.
that won't move out they can't get him out and yet he does everything in his power to make it even even worse
yeah that was that was back in the early 90s i think it was pacific heights yeah 1990
another good movie about revenge that you have to look at it as revenge is what's the movie the nero
made with the crazy guy he's a crazy guy which crazy guy and it's a remake he torments nick nalty
oh cape fear the original's better though the original the original yeah the original is better
That like like when I finally saw the because I had seen Cape Fear.
I had seen the De Niro version and it was good.
But then the Egyptian showed the original one and I went to see it and I was knocked on my ass.
You want to talk about it.
It's black and white.
It's black and white.
It's Gregory Peck.
Yes.
It's Polly Bergen is the wife and it's Robert Mitchum as Caddy and he and as Max Cady and he's fucking.
See with De Niro you get this cartoonish kind of.
He's scary and he's he's creepy but he's.
movie creepy. Mitchum.
Mitchum looked like a guy you could
put Mitchum in the remake. Yeah, they did.
He played the cop in the cop, you
know, he's just, but Mitchum had this
cool style to him. He had this
cool vibe to him where
he was hypersexual, but he was
violent and you got this sense that he was going to do
some horrible shit to that family.
And it didn't go down in the same
way that it goes down in the, the
Scorsese throws all this biblical shit into
it of religion and, and, and,
this uh this avenging angel kind of thing but what he is doing he is going back on this family
because in the de nero version nolte was his lawyer and he buried a bunch of information that could
have kept him out of prison in the other film in the mitcham film i think gregory peck is a witness
as um as uh den as mitcham's character is getting ready to rape a girl he stops him from
raping a girl so being the main witness he's he goes after him because he's he goes after him because
because he's the reason he spent seven years in prison.
But I'm telling you, man, both of those films,
that level of vengeance coming back on the,
it was fucking crazy.
And I really, I remember going, my God,
this is really great filmmaking.
This is, I still get excited
when a Scorsese film is coming out.
I don't.
You don't get, you don't do it anymore?
It doesn't, I enjoyed the one with Jack Nicholson.
The Departed.
What's the other one he did?
The one with the kid,
Wolf of Wall Street.
Wolf of Wall Street.
You didn't care for that one too much?
I don't know.
It's starting to all get the same pattern.
He hasn't blown my socks off in a long time.
Did you see Hugo?
No.
Watch it when your little girl gets a little bit older and she can understand stuff
because it's a beautiful film.
It's really,
it's a kid's movie.
And you wouldn't suspect him of being able to put together a kids movie.
But he's such a,
he's such a consummate artist and he loves movies so much
that he can go into that world.
I mean, this is a guy that,
It's made musicals.
He's made documentaries.
He's made religious films.
He's made biblical epics.
He's made crime dramas.
He's done comedies.
He's done everything.
Are you excited about his new movie, The Irishman?
You know what?
I'm scared.
I saw a poster today, Fagotti.
What happened with that?
Can you see the trailer, please?
Vagotti, if there's a trailer 2018.
I've seen a trailer for it.
You did see it.
Yeah, yeah.
Look, Travolta.
when travolta is great there's nobody better
Travolta really delivers he's just a fucking great
he's a movie star but he is a great actor but you know
but the movie star thing overwhelms everything else
that he does
but
that movie was supposed to come out so long ago
and then it got buried
and then I started thinking he was going to start doing straight to video shit
so what's happening with it
here it is let's see what the fuck he
says because I just saw the poster today.
Strong violence and
pervasive language. Let me tell you something. New York is the greatest
city in the world. My city.
I was a kid in these streets, and I
made it to the top.
I made my bones doing a piece of
work for Don Carlo Gambino.
Like that, I became a maid man.
Dad, I'm thinking maybe take a year off.
Why do you want to hang out with me?
Do you know what you're doing to this family?
I will build something that nobody can destroy.
Thank you.
Paul Castellano was a fish in the desert.
I never respected Paul.
You killed the boss's loss.
You will bring down hellfire.
There is no choice.
You'll need the support of all five boroughs.
Queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Staten Island, the Browns.
Our job now is to maintain leadership.
I nominate John Gotti.
To a new boss.
Help.
Let everybody know.
Now everybody comes to me.
I'm so proud of you.
You should be running your own crew now.
Mr. Gotti, are you the head of the Gambino Prime family?
The head of my family.
Mrs. Gotti, do you know what your husband does fair living?
He provides.
John's getting too much press.
That can't go unchecked.
It was meant for you.
We've never been under this kind of scrutiny before.
What were you saying on the tapes?
I said a lot of things that could get a lot of people in trouble.
Dad, you say the word, I'll go over a cliff for you.
You swore to me that you would not bring him into that world.
This life of ours is a wonderful life.
If you can get away with it.
Johnson has been an informant for the FBI.
There's a damn lot.
You fight till you can't fight no more.
Never back off ever.
We'll walk together and we fall together.
This is the life.
They do it up.
So here's my question, because it doesn't mean as much to me as it means to, I think you guys.
To me, watching that trailer, I couldn't tell whatever year it was,
1970, 1980.
It looked like a
other than the cars
a little bit.
It looked like a 2018
movie.
To me,
I'd rather see it
look like the 19,
I don't know what year
he was running around,
but.
He was running around
what, mid-80s?
85.
85 to, what, early 90s?
Oh, he was in rhythm.
He was running around
from late 60 to,
I think 85, 87,
when he fell.
85 was when he killed
Costalano.
So it's,
the movie's dirty years late.
But HBO did a movie.
Who did he?
Did they have Armand Asante?
Amanda Santhé?
That was tremendous.
And Anthony Quinn played the fucking Mob Boy,
whatever, the underboss.
It was great.
I thought it was great.
I don't think people, you know, listen,
right now, I'm so far taken away from movies.
Yeah.
And it breaks my heart.
That's why I like talking to you.
I bring you in here because you refresh me.
At least you let me know.
But when I ask you, you've seen anything that floats your bum.
Nothing.
You know, I've seen some of the Oscar winner.
in the last 10 years.
And I sit there and I go,
they don't even look like Oscar winners.
You know,
Brando looked like an Oscar winner.
You know,
you looked at most people,
they won an Oscar.
It's not about that no more.
You know,
we know the waiter from the Ice House.
He worked for four years nonstop.
He says he can't get a job now
because he's a straight white guy.
You got to be,
it's all diversity.
You know, it's all very diversified.
Yeah, they say it's all diversity,
but I'm not seeing any diversity on the screen.
See how I'm not seeing.
All I want to see is a fucking movie.
Yeah.
You follow me?
I don't care who's in it, what color the people are.
I'd rather see a movie that fucking entertains me.
That takes me somewhere for two hours.
That makes me think about what I just saw for two hours and go, you know what?
I'm going to go see that fucking movie again.
Something about that movie fucking got me.
You know, like I said, when I got into comedy, I gave up a lot of shit.
And I still remember, and then I went to prison.
Then when I came out of prison, you think I gave a fuck about movies?
I came a fuck about good fella.
But I never saw Major League in the movie theater.
Yeah.
I love discovering a film.
Yeah.
I love discovering a gem, you know.
My wife does that.
My wife will say, I caught a movie the other night.
It wasn't for me, but it's going to work for you.
And I watched a movie.
Not in a tent.
She showed me a movie while back with Lee.
Whoever plays in the, I'm dying up here.
Melissa Leo.
Melissa Leo.
Which movie are you talking about?
The one about the Indians that she crosses.
Oh, Wind River.
No, no, not Win River.
It was something about her getting those Indians across that.
Frozen Lake.
Frozen Lake.
Let me tell you something, man.
That was a great fucking movie.
Yes, it was.
And there's movies that you don't, it's,
it's so weird that somebody said something to me the other day.
When I went to New Jersey, I was talking to a guy after the second show.
And it's something I told Lee.
I feel bad sometimes.
I feel bad because we didn't get to see the best of the best.
No.
It was chosen and picked between us, between the networks and shit like that.
Like that first episode of season one of I'm dying.
I caught it on the plane there that I saw me at my role.
And thank you for the people who watched it.
I really liked Eric Griffin and all that stuff.
I forgot what I was going to tell you.
I'm not even eating edibles.
The spirit of it, I liked.
You know, it's not an Academy Award winning,
but the spirit of it, I like,
sometimes a movie is an Academy Award winner,
but the spirit of it I like.
Black Panther had me until I saw the CGI.
The Renaissance Wars is horrible.
I fucking hated it.
Hated it.
I was having a good time.
I was having a good time for that, too.
See, that's all that shit loses me,
and that's every movie today.
That's every movie.
They took something out of movies, the realism, something realism out of it.
They really did.
They really did.
You know, when that dude won the Oscar for a Hurt Locker, that guy shouldn't.
And I don't know him.
I'm not saying nothing bad about it.
I didn't think that was an Oscar winning performance.
No.
That was far from what I expect.
When I saw Pesci and Goodfellas, I left there going, something's going to happen.
That's the guy that delivered.
You know, when I seen Dancing with Wolves, I knew that.
That was a beautiful fucking film.
Like I cried during the dances of a little strong twice, you know, and I watched that.
The movie when Mel Gibson played the Irish guy.
Braveheart.
Graveheart, you know.
Listen, and again, I don't want to be that guy.
What does it take the movie studio to put money into a film like that again?
These are films that have lasted.
Back then, we were seeing good films and you were more likely to see better films
on a on a per chance basis
but the ones that we're talking about
are the ones that have lasted
there are a handful of films being made right now
that are good
but they're just fewer
I mean I watch movies now
and I'm just like oh god
when I go to see a movie in a theater
I'm usually not really disappointed
because I don't go into it expecting that much
but there was a movie called
beautiful land or something like that.
It came out of Australia.
And it was about these Aborigines who,
this Aborigines man who killed a white man who raped his wife
and how they were hunting him down.
And it was great.
It was beautiful to look at.
It's still out there.
There's still good shit to be found.
A lot of good shit is also on TV now.
So you get pulled into cereals, you know,
you get pulled into a Sopranos or a Deadwood
or Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones or whatever the fuck people are watching right now.
The industry changes, but good work is still there.
You can still find good work.
Did you see three billboards outside of Ebbing's, Missouri, the Francis McDonorman film?
No.
I liked that.
It was about a woman who rents these three billboards, and she makes a statement on them basically saying,
why haven't you found my daughter's rapist and murderer?
Oh, yeah, I heard about it.
And it was good.
It was really well-made.
Woody Harrelson is great in it.
Francis McDormon.
For the year, she deserved the Oscar for that performance.
But there's going to be a handful of films like that.
There's a movie called, God damn.
There's a movie called Wind River.
If you get a chance, see that.
If you have Netflix, watch the Wind River.
We're about to die.
That was the Wind River.
Fuck.
You get some Wind River in about two minutes here.
Do you have Fish and Robbie Aida again?
Every time you have fish, he farts like, oh.
That was sea bass.
I know it.
Jesus Christ.
Jamba wire for lunch.
Chicken breasts.
He gets him to shit his pants.
But he is going to shit his pants one of these days.
I know that's going to happen.
I've done already.
No big deal.
You got a paper towel.
You wipe the juice and you go back to what you were doing.
You know what I'm saying?
The party doesn't end.
You ever get it where the sock catches to let the drip?
Oh, God.
I've had the brown in my sock.
I've shipped.
Yes, I have.
A couple years ago, I shipped my pants.
No, you can't, it's actually run down your pant leg.
Yeah, I've had that.
Oh, no.
You take your socks off and it brown up at the right on the inside.
You got to remember, chubby guys that were in baggy pants, so there's no, there's no cling.
I'm not claiming that I've never shit my pants.
I shit my pants a bunch, but, like, I usually catch it, and then I just go straight home.
What are you talking about?
Wipe the juice and keep doing what you're doing.
You got to do something.
You got to go home.
Your day's over.
You're not going to fight through that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Take it out of your.
underwear you take your underwear off you throw them away I've done that too but if it gets in
the pants you're done it's like I got on the pants and they're gonna get the underwear that's
why you wear the loose fitting pants and you get that liceaw sprayed on your fucking jeans and
finish up the day what is wrong with you fucking animal have you ever
have you ever shit or paced your pants in movies no no really I've gotten in clothes
because I I hate getting up to go pee so I'll sit there until the last possible
Well, that's why I don't drink in a movie theater anymore.
I'll eat.
I'll have the pizza.
I'll have a sandwich, whatever.
If they got to serve.
But if I have to drink, if they're going to bring me, especially those fucking vats of Coke that they bring you, I'm going to piss before the end of this fucking movie.
I can't have that, you know?
Then I miss some shit that I wanted to see now.
It's funny how Mel Gibson, when an actor decides to make movies, you can see.
like Mel Gibson made some great movies.
Yeah, he did make some...
Procto, Braveheart, you know.
All the movies are, the one about the temptation of Christ.
Did he put himself in that?
No, he wasn't in that.
No, like he was...
Passion of the Passion of the Christ.
You know, these guys, they see, they cut all the waist.
Look, I can't stand.
I worked on every type of movie.
Yeah.
And I remember during the long...
Not even the longest yard, Spider-Man, too.
Mm-hmm.
was one of the first times I said wow they're spending a lot of money yeah they got
pomegranate juice and I'm killing it by the gallon of this motherfucker
granite juice like three dollars a bottle I was killing that shit isn't that the best part
of being on set the food of what you could what you could hustle out of there it's not
anymore that the last show that I worked on not anymore was so fucking yeah no anymore
it's that that's a day that all depends on the show mm-hmm there's some shows that
say listen I'm taking all the money get the cheapest food
Some people go, hey, man, I've been on a set as an actor or I've been hungry.
I don't ever want that to happen.
Take 10,000 on my salary and I want fucking, I don't mind work in 12-hour days.
But let me tell you something.
When I want a bagel with locks, there better be a bagel with locks.
When I want chocolate cake, there better be chocolate cake.
There's some movies you're on Lee that you could ask for anything.
Yeah.
You guys from bagel with locks?
Beagle with locks.
What I was doing the longest yard, I used to bring Steve Simone and Ari to the set and go.
I was like, let me get two pastrami sandwiches for my buddies.
Jesus.
Just like that.
I would love to look at what they thought the catering budget would be on your movies and then what after.
Because if you're stealing jugs of pomegranate juice.
You have no idea.
There was on Spider-Man, too, they hired a guy just to open the door.
Wow.
But then I've done movies where you walk yourself to set, you bring your own jeans.
You know, the fucking, there's nothing to eat.
There's cheese packages.
One of those crackers with peanut butter and cheese.
Crackers, like a thousand of those, popcorn in a bag, and apples and bananas.
They might give you peanut butter and jelly there.
The peanut butter and jelly.
And that shit goes quick.
Yeah.
Because those animals go through peanut butter and jelly like fucking, like welfare people on the fifth.
They fucking tear that up on the set.
He's telling the absolute truth.
Oh, my God.
Those people go, what did I just work on?
Guessbook, they had a tremendous, tremendous.
Yeah.
They were tremendous.
The food was tremendous on the fucking set.
They didn't serve you lunch.
They gave you an hour to walk around,
which means they give you $35.
Yeah.
Per diem.
They don't give you to you that day.
They give it to you in your check.
You could walk and go eat,
but there was enough food on the set you didn't need.
And they brought it in every four hours.
They brought in something.
Yeah.
Jesus.
You know, yeah, they don't fuck around.
But there's some sets,
and what happened with me was,
and it was funny.
I did a short film
in a pizza place
they were paying me cash.
That's all I cared about.
We'll pay you two days in cash.
There was two nights of work.
And he goes, the second night's
to be like till two or three,
but the first night you're going to be out of that quick.
But we'll pay you for the night.
I said, you need to pay me for gas.
And I went up there the first night,
and there was nothing.
I mean, crackers and wards.
and waters.
And the next night, when I got there,
it was the Taj Mahal
because the after rep was there.
And I asked him,
I still have that dude's card.
He's not after no more because it merged.
That was like 12 years ago.
But I found this card.
About a month ago I was going through my cards,
he said the next time you go on a set
and it don't look like the Taj Mahal,
I want you to call him here immediately.
I'll send the fucking rep over and find them on the spot.
And after that, I got really, like I did a movie called Boilermaker.
Great movie.
But the second day, I had to throw a little fucking fit on the set.
On the third day, it was a Sunday.
There was no food.
And I said, listen, time out.
Monday through Saturday, you don't want to have food?
I'm cool with that.
But Sunday, you took people away from their family.
You better get some fucking food on this set.
I'm calling the after rep.
They looked at me, dog.
They never liked me after that.
I had the director on the podcast years ago.
Yeah.
And he just started liking me again.
And then he put me in a movie and I couldn't do it.
So he hates me now.
He put me in a movie and I was like 100 a day, three days.
I don't want to be in a movie that bad.
I don't.
It's, it's, it's, it's, uh,
you're going to be a motherfucker.
And I feel, you know, I love doing the podcast.
I love doing stand-up.
I love being on a set for a limited time.
Limited time.
It's really weird.
I don't think I could do a long movie anymore or nothing like that.
I don't think I could do four days in a row on the set.
I think I'd lose my fucking mind.
The dream I had when I first got here being in a TV show, that left.
That left.
I don't mind doing an episode of two or three, but every week, no mask for Uncle Joe.
That's a weird thing to say.
It's a, I don't know.
Unless I fell in love with the role.
Unless they trade, unless I can do like a Tracy Morgan role on Third Rock where you call me in early and get me out of there by 12 or one or two, I'm in.
Guarantee me that you're going to get me out of there because I'm fidgety.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm too old and too fucking fidgety and you want me in there for comic relief.
I'm in.
Yeah.
By 12 hour days, 14 hour days.
I can't do those.
See for me though, like when I'm,
working extra. I hate, you can either work, you can either work me three hours and get me the
fuck out of there or I want to work 14 hours. I want that shit because, because eight hours is
the regular day. Three hours, they're going to pay you eight. I get out of there early. That's great.
Nine to 10 hours, that's time and a half. Ten to 12 hours, that's double time. And if you make it
to that 15th hour, they're supposed to pay you your, your day rate.
I figure I'm not doing anything else and I'm sitting here and I'm watching and I'm trying to
pay attention to, you know, I'm trying to get to know these, uh, these, these production assistants
and trying to figure out how they're moving the camera and I, I love being on set.
I love it.
It's, it's, it's, if I have to go to fucking Santa Clarita or Long Beach or San Pedro or if I
got to go to one of those studios, I'm okay with all of that as long as I get to, as long as I
get to see how it's being done i like all that's all yeah i love when i was watching gregsy i love
watching directors i love watching exactly i haven't been doing it as long as you though so that's
that's that's the difference i've always admired you know i was thinking about that today i was driving
back and i was thinking about questions to hit you with yeah you know i think the word director has
also been yeah fucked up i think that too many people with cameras have
call themselves directors.
A director, in another words, for me,
what it means to me is he's going to read the script 15 times
and then tell me a fucking story.
Tell me a story how he sees it with his shots,
with his lighting, with his...
I see these movies, they all look the same to me now.
They all do now.
Okay, you know, these are little things I notice
and I could bitch, I don't have to.
time to bitch. I had a wife and a kid.
What do I know? What do I give a fuck? I'm too old.
But these are things that
turn me off about the film industry.
When I went to see Angel Heart, the fact that
the movie's dark, it's just dark.
It's dark all the way through.
The director.
Alan Parker, that shooting those
shafts of light shooting through that elevator
as it's coming down. Beautiful to look at.
Beautiful look at. I understood that.
I don't see that anymore.
Yeah. I don't know if it's me.
if it's the studios
if it's a director
if it's the coordinator
I don't know what it is anymore
I don't get to see that in a film anymore
you know
even I watched splash last week
oh my God
last week there were two movies on
one night Lee called me
and I actually had to tell Lee I had to call him back
yeah blind date was on
oh wow Bruce Willis
Ken Bassinger John Larrakett
John Larraket brilliant
fucking when we put it on last week
I was fucking howling here.
You know, a simple comedy.
And she carried it.
Yeah.
She was the fucking force.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, she should have done 20,000 comedic roles after that.
You know what happened?
She was too pretty.
She was too pretty and you can't have, they couldn't sell that.
They wanted her to be sexy.
They wanted, because I think the next thing that she did after that was big was nine and
half weeks.
And then she was a sex kitten for the rest of her career.
Then she did that movie with Richard Gerey and 87, which I really,
enjoyed.
True.
Richard Gere,
where she belongs
to a gangster in New Orleans.
And Richard Gere goes down there
and he fucking
investigates the thing.
He buys her from her.
She explains to him that
the guy
bought Kim Bassenger when she was a girl.
Like the parent bought her
from the parents when she was 16.
So Richard Gere tries to take her away.
What's the fucking... I can't remember that movie.
See if you can find it. Richard Gere.
87, No Way Out.
No, it's not in the way out.
That's the Kevin Costner film with Sean Young and Hackman.
Oh, man.
Kim Bassinger, Richard Gere.
No mercy.
No mercy.
Yeah.
That.
I haven't thought about that movie in years.
Oh, my God.
In fact, the guy that plays the husband, what's the movie with Nick Nolte and Barbara Streisand?
The Prince of Tides.
Prince of Tides, he plays a husband.
He's the violin player.
Okay.
I remember that.
He plays the bad guy.
in that movie.
Now, if you watch The Prince of Tides,
the guy's a dick.
The guy's a dick.
You get up by his face.
You can talk by his walk.
Everything, he's a dick.
But if you watch No Mercy,
you learn the camera work.
You're going to see that he makes this guy look like Black Panther.
You're going to go, wow.
And then you're going to see the guy in that movie and go,
hmm, either he was that good of an actor or,
Because when did Prince of Tides come out?
91 maybe.
91, 90 around there.
I was out.
I was unlocked up.
No Way Out came out in 87.
91.
91.
So no way out came out in 97, 88, 87.
So in four years, the guy didn't lose that much muscle.
No.
And he played so fucking intimidating.
This guy, even in my movie seat, was intimidating to me.
Just fucking sitting there.
But it's weird how the director shot him low and made him look ginormous.
That's always baffled me.
That's what I'm talking about.
The school...
When you have a director who really knows what the camera is capable of,
and they know the lens that they need to use,
they know how far they need to be away,
they know how intimate the scene needs to be.
A lot of directors don't have that.
A lot of directors,
because I think now you had you had directors who at one point had lived lives you know
by the time John Houston was writing and directing I think Treasure the Sierra
Sierra Moderator Maltese Falcon he had had a life he had traveled the world he
had been on all kinds of adventures he loved movies but he had lived so it
informed the films that he was making I think the problem with with today is
that you got every director taking every director trying to be tarentino what's out it's a
dea card for a get on a jail card the fuck do you got a d a card a car a fan of the podcast came to the
show in jersey yeah and it was funny we should leave that at the office i think you save this is my
man detective stephen gates retired right but it's funny that that i met a lot of cops when i
went home yeah and i was talking to one cop and we're talking about policing
He was telling me how he was happy he retired because what happened to the police, he goes, is that now they're all college educated.
It's like where if you grew up in North Hollywood, you become a North Hollywood cop.
And this is your home.
And you know all the nucks and crannies.
And when he was telling me, he goes, when I became a cop, he had a high school diploma.
He goes, now they give them the college kids who never really lived.
Yeah.
They don't have interactions.
They don't know the neighborhood.
And that's why they quick to pull a trigger.
That's why you have all these shootings and it made sense to me.
I didn't understand what was going on.
I go, so what you mean to tell me right now in New Brunswick,
there's no cop that walks to beat.
He goes, that's a thing of the past.
Yeah. A beat cop is a thing of the past.
Lee, you've never seen a beat cop.
Only in movies.
Only, that's amazing.
You know, anytime you put a police officer in a uniform in the neighborhood,
it strengthens that neighborhood because you know he's around the corner.
Even in Boston, I didn't see it.
Yeah, that's really fucking weird.
Every neighbor, like North Hollywood should have a walking cop by that park
Because then the homeless people know all those people know they got to be in check every hour on the hour
He's gonna come by when I was a kid there was a cop that walked by you every two hours
Yeah, but you knew you did something he'd be there in 10 fucking seconds
So you didn't do dick you know what a different time you was called something it's called
When a cop wears a uniform it's not the terrant it's one of the biggest crime deterrents you can have
If I know that there's a cop on the corner.
It's going to be a big crime to terror for me.
You know, so many things have changed like that
because they all go to USC
and they all learn the same tricks.
Or they have the budgets to be creative.
I mean, for Christ's sakes,
these movies have the budget to be creative.
One thing about Black Panther, the story held me.
The story was great.
The story was great.
They used some great stuff.
The girl was, I think the girl stole the movie.
New Pita in Longaro or something?
Yeah, I thought she stole the movie.
And then what about Michael B. Jordan?
He was really good, too.
He was great.
He was great.
Everybody was good.
But the sister stole the show.
She was my favorite.
Oh, the sister.
Tina Turner was in the movie.
What's her name?
Angela Bassett.
Angela Bass was in the movie.
I was waiting for fucking Ike to pop out of somewhere.
A bunch of stuff.
It's always a pleasure having you.
What's the name of your podcast?
Watch this with Rick Ramos.
Watch this with Rick Ramos.
If anybody knows about movies, this motherfuckeron knows.
the date, the director, what else he did, what he ate for breakfast.
And that's a quality you can't find a lot of people.
As my father-in-law said, you have the capacity to withhold a lot of use of information.
Yeah, shut the fuck up, bitch.
At least I'm happy.
Mind your fucking business.
Like I said, the beginning of the show, if you're looking to get healthy, you travel a lot,
you stop with the fucking water bottle.
If you travel a lot, if you do all these things, you want to be protected from the germs.
You see these Japanese people walking around with masks.
That's why you think they do it.
They don't know about fucking Shroom Tech immune.
They don't know about this shit.
Me?
I know about Shroom Tech immune.
And when I fly, I pop four of them and tip top Magoo.
I can make out with a crack hole and come home with no fucking flu.
You understand me?
Shroom tech immune, shroom tech sport.
The fucking, the mushroom enlarges your fucking oxygen.
They test it up there in high altitude and all that stuff.
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I want to thank Rick Ramos again.
I want to thank the fucking Christ killer number one again.
That bong hit.
put them in fucking La La LaVille.
And I want to thank you guys
and the guys that came out
for the stress factory
in Providence again
for coming out
and making it a great weekend.
We'll see you guys
Wednesday afternoon
with Mr. Ed Quinn.
I love you,
motherfucker.
Stay black.
Kick that meal, Lee.
