The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #618 - Jon Bernthal

Episode Date: September 17, 2018

Jon Bernthal, an actor seen in countless film and television projects including Netflix' "The Punisher," "Fury," and "The Walking Dead," joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio.    This podcast is brought to you by:   ZipRecruiter - post your job to 200+ job sites with a single click for free at www.ziprecruiter.com/church   Blue Apron: Go to blueapron.com/JOEY to get your first THREE meals for free.    MyBookie.com -  Use promo codeChurch to get up to a 100% match on your first deposit up to $1,000.    

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What's happening, you bad motherfuckers? I hope you had a great weekend. Philly, I want to thank you for coming out. DC, the nine motherfucking 30 club. Speaking of DC, we got one of DC's favorite sons here in the house tonight. My man, John Berthold. Thank you very much for coming out. It's good to be here, brother.

It's great to see. I haven't seen you since we shot that fucking movie. That fucking movie. New Orleans. But I was telling Sean that I walked in when I landed. I went to watch the scenes and De Niro was, you know, I just met L.L. Kuljo and he had fucked them up a little bit. Like, you know, L.L. was cool, trying to be cool with him.

And then finally... Even fucking L.L. gets humbled. Even like... The first two takes, he just fell apart. And I'm like, wow, that's funny that, you know. And then it was my first before my thing with him. I had like two lines. And John came over and he goes, I'm friends with John.

So at least I knew I was home. So now I could... And the first take, I looked at him. and you see every actor that he's played. You see him in the fucking retard. Remember in that movie? You see him as fucking Deer Hunter. You see him as Frankie Angel.

And all of a sudden they're like, cut, Joey, you okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me a minute, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But if so, it's great to see you, man. It's great. God bless you on all your work and all your success.

Thank you, back. It's like fucking walking dead just started a fucking valve. That show, man. Yeah, that was a special one, man. And then it didn't, now let me ask something. You were a boxer first? No, man, I boxed with him. Oh, I learned how to box from Sean.

I thought that was your first dream. No, I mean, you know, I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot from boxing, I think, in terms of, in terms of, you know, with this, with what we do. He could have been a box. I mean, like, you know, I came up, you know, Sean, I can't, I can't really say enough about how much I've learned from him. and how much of this friendship means to me. You know, I mean, me and Sean come from the same place. We met in D.C.

Sean came out here first. And this motherfucker, man, you know, when, you know, I was getting in all kinds of trouble growing up. And, you know, I played sports. I did baseball, football. And, you know, I ended up not being able to finish college because I was always getting in trouble. I mean, one thing after another, I ended up moving to Russia. And that's where I studied acting. I lived in Moscow for a couple years.

And right before all that, you know, I knew Sean and Sean was a professional boxer. And fucking, you know, I heard Sean's interview with you, which was great. But, you know, he's a modest guy. But, you know, he went to the nationals. I mean, he was a, you know, he's an undefeated pro. I mean, he's a serious motherfucker. And the thing also with Sean, you know, just, you also got to remember he's a Division 1 wrestler.

And, you know, not to talk about, but in a deeper, darker time in our lives, Sean Kerrigan was the most lethal dude I've ever seen in my life on the street. And I'll tell you something, never a guy to talk shit, never a guy to start a fight. That's not who he is, man. That's the happiest guy in the world. That's it, man. But if you want to be a bully around him, it's not going to work. It's not going to work.

It's not going to work. It doesn't matter. You got a knife. You got a gun. It doesn't matter. It's not going to work. And I've seen it. But, you know, one of the things with Sean and I, you know, I don't want to talk about

this stupid motherfucker the whole time because I fucking kind of hate him. But what I'll say is, you know, Sean came out here and, you know, he taught, did you guys get into the next action star thing? Yeah. He did. So, I mean, you got to understand like what that was, you know, he came, he came out here and, you know, Sean, you know, in D.C., there's no frame of reference. You want to be an actor.

That doesn't exist where we're from. There's no, you know, nobody really knows what that kind of means. And, you know, Sean came out here really with nothing. He gets on this TV show right in the beginning, right in the sort of birth of reality TV, right when American Ottawa started. And they wanted to do like an American Idol. And anyway, this is my fucking version of your story. So you just deal with it, dude.

So, you know, right in the beginning of reality TV, you know, he gets on basically the American Idol but for actors, for action stars. And the criteria was that you could have no real TV experience. So he came out here just being a fighter coming out here. He wanted to act. He had done some things back in D.C. He gets on that show. And the guy who gets to win that show gets to star in a two-hour, movie aired on NBC directed by Joel Silver.

Is that right? No, it's written by Lewis. But it was produced by fucking Joe. Good enough, right? But that is a huge gig, man, for somebody coming out to L.A. It's huge. Sean gets on this thing and he wins the whole fucking thing. And they had to put him in hiding so he wouldn't tell anybody because everybody thought

this show was going to be the next American Idol and what was doing for, I don't know, Kelly Clarkson and all these people was going to do for these action stars. And this dude just came in and won the whole fucking thing. And to me, you know, I didn't even know. that he had won it. I just knew that he did it. And for me, that was the biggest celebrity. That was the coolest shit. I mean, when I first came out here, I would go to nightclubs and I'd be like, hey man, I'm with the dude from fucking, you know, next action star and shit. The show hadn't even come out, but I thought in my idiot mind that that was, you know, the end-on be-all, you know. And he came and he won it and they put him in hiding. And, you know, they secured holding deals with him. They, you know, ICM came in and, and, you know, represented him. And, you know, he was poised to be the this huge action star.

And I know him. I know how talented he is. And I know how good he is. And I knew that, of course, this all made sense. They ended up airing the show much later than they thought they're going to air the show. And the show was a huge freaking flop. And it ended up not being the American out of what they thought it was going to do. And as Hollywood is Hollywood, these motherfuckers, and again, this is my version of the story. But these folks, as much as they were pumping him up, now they're all turning their back on him and backing out one after an

another after another. And all of a sudden, this guy who has this media, what do you say, meteoric? Meteoric? Yeah. Meteoric, yeah. Thank you, brother. So he's got this fucking rise just like that. They kind of leave them high and dry. And the movie doesn't, you know, the, the movie on NBC doesn't do what they thought it was going to do. And so this guy gets a taste of, of the falsehood and the bullshit that this town can, can give you. And 99.9.9% of these people who this would happen to would tuck and run. Would fucking leave, man. And be a psychiatrist for a year and a half

at home. That's it. That's it. And this motherfucker, because he is a fighter, because he is a fighter, he is a real fucking man and a real fucking fighter. He said, hey, look, man, I'm not let this thing lick me. He could have gone and fought in the UFC. He could have gone and done a million different things. He was undefeated fucking boxer, division one

wrestler. And what he decided to do is invest and dive into acting school and to learn and learn and put his work in. He went and did open mic night's every night. I have so much respect for stand-up comics. I envy you guys because

you guys don't need to be hired to do your art. For me, I got to go grind, hit the pavement, jerk people off, do whatever it takes to get hired onto a job. I love the fact that stand-ups, you just need an audience and a mic, and I'm so envious of that. But what I saw Sean do

is work day in and day out every single night getting up there performing somewhere, and he went and he kicked fucking ass, and he did it. Now he's got this great career in both acting and in comedy. And, you know, for me, that's about being a fighter. And it was a huge lesson for me. And it was a huge lesson for me to sort of, you know, man,

for me starting out in this job, it was me and Kerrigan, meeting in the mornings, 5 a.m., going to get fucking coffee, going, we would go to each other's auditions, wouldn't let anybody fuck with each other. We would get each other. We got each other the work that we got. He would be right there with me every step of the way.

And we'd go boxing the afternoons. We'd go out all goddamn night and start the next day. And that's really was, that's what being in California was like for me. And I can't tell you how much I owe to him and how much I've learned from him and how much I respect him. Now, before you came out here, you said you went to Russia. You lost. Did you take any acting classes in D.C.? No, no. Was there anything being offered? No, no, man. Maybe at a college, nothing. I went to college to play baseball. I had no real business being in college. I was getting in trouble all the time, getting in all kinds of shit. And then, you know, in the, in the college that I went to, I ended up taking an

acting class almost as a, as a fluke. And I've told the story before, but, you know, I ended up because I'm an asshole. I thought I was going to be in a 250-person intro to acting class where I could drop acid sit in the back of the theater and just watch movies, you know, because that's what I heard that the athletes did. But I was such a dipshit. I signed up for the wrong class and ended up into this intro to acting class, which was with theater majors. And it was just 10 of us sitting on the goddamn floor trying to learn how to act. And I'd never met theater people before. I didn't understand what they were like. They were so different from me. And, you know, the first assignment, I told this story before, so I'll try to be brief. But the first assignment was to bring in something

that you cared about and share it with the rest of the class. And I remember the first girl, she got up, she had a blues traveler CD that her boyfriend had given her. And she's sharing that with the rest of the class talking about it. And she's crying her eyes out. I'm like, this is the weirdest fucking girl I've ever like why is she crying in front of all these fucking people and then the next person had a teddy bear they're crying their eyes out talking about it and you know it was just like a game of show and tell on steroids you know and slowly but surely was working itself to me and I've forgotten to bring anything so I knew I was going to a fall baseball practice right afterwards and I had a I had my catcher's glove so I just decided what are you doing that

situation I bullshit it I made up this story about how my mom had given me this catcher's glove on her deathbed. And my mom's alive and well in D.C. You know what I mean? And I'm telling this story. And I'm fucking crying my eyes. Everybody in the class is crying their eyes out. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I'm just bullshit. I'm just doing the acting. I mean, that's what... And the teacher, this woman, Alma Becker, who ended up marrying my wife and I. She's an angel. She saved my life, man. She excused the class and she pulled me aside.

She ripped me apart for, you know, violating the sanctity of her studio. But then she said, hey, man, you fucking have something. And you need to audition for this play. And she put me in my first play. and I found it. And then when I couldn't finish college because I was always getting in trouble

and it just wasn't working out, she was the one that said, hey, listen, the best, I went to her. And I didn't think acting would be any different than being a lawyer, or being a plumber, being a doctor. What are the steps? That's how stupid I was.

Like, what are the steps that you have to take to make that happen? And she said, look, if I was you, if I was a young actor, I would audition for the Moscow Art Theater. It's the best theater school in the world. And I think deep down, she knew she needed to get me away

from all my craziness and my knucklehead friends and the people that were sort of made. I was doing the crazy shit that I was doing with. And I ended up moving to Russia, man. And I was there for about two years. And, you know, Moscow in the late 90s, that shit opened my world up. It taught me so much about being an artist.

And it was the first place, you know, to be an actor in Russia, it's a very masculine profession, man. It's not like here. It's not like the people I grew up and it's stupid. You know, they look at being an artist and it's, you know, they look down on it. like it's a weak profession, you know, like it's that it's not a profession of building and putting in work and craftsmanship and sweat and tears. And, you know, in Russia, you go around,

they have statues on every street corner of playwrights and of poets and of actors. And being an artist is something that's celebrated and revered because of how much work it takes and how how strong you need to be and how much you need to experience life and investigate every fucking nook and cranny of life and you need to go live among all kinds of people. They understand that. And it's a brutal, it's a brutal school and a brutal profession. And they get that and they celebrate that. And I just thank God that, you know, Alma sent me there.

And that's where I got to sort of cut my teeth because that made me who I, there's no way I'd be doing this shit if I went for that. We've been acting since day one, Jesus left Chicago. But the guys that, the guy that honed in the acting was Stanis Lops. That's it. And that's the school that I went to. That's the school you went. Yeah, yeah.

So it was like teaching the Stanislauski. And I remember that then they came to the United States and like three of them broke off. Yeah. Stella Adler. Misner. The guy that played the Godfather. Yeah, Elise Strasberg. Yeah, so basically the group theater.

Yeah, came from that. So it became like a group theater and stuff like that, which has always been very interesting to me. So you are considered a method actor. I don't know. You look, man, you know, what that is. You know, the crazy shit is, you know, acting is, you know, I don't want to give a fucking history. lesson, but you know, when Stanislavsky, you know, for them to take that trip, it had to be sanctioned by the government, right? So in 1933, they went on a world tour with a play called The Segal, which is one of Chekhov's most famous plays, Stanislavski starred in it and he directed in it. And they went to Europe. Not to interrupt you. Now, when you went to Russia, did you learn how to act in Russian or did they speak American? I'm just curious. So everybody in my class spoke Russian. They were all Russian. I spoke English, but the whole point was that if the acting is good, I went to go see the theater every night. night in Russian. I understood every fucking, if it's good, if the acting is good and you're playing

what you're going for clearly and with all your heart, you'll know exactly what's going on. I believe that. You don't need to. The language doesn't matter. I truly believe that. And in your first year there, you don't speak any text. It's all about getting your body right and your mind right and learning how to play actions with people, learning to connect with people, learning how to build an ensemble with people. But when they were, when they were doing this world tour of this play, they they it was the first time ever what acting was up into that point it was presentational so it was assholes going to the front of the stage and proclaiming to the audience and everybody looking straight out and then what stanislavski did is he started out the

place starts and everybody's got their back to the audience they're really drinking tea they're talking to each other not talking to the audience and that shit blew fucking people's minds realism blue fucking people's minds and so the whole thing about method and you know it gets so like i feel like bastardizing nowadays it's like all these people they just want to wear being a method actor as like a badge of courage you know like you know i fucking got my leg bit off by a shark because i'm going to be in a movie about fucking fish you know it's like everybody wants to fucking show how hard they work but you know for me you know what method acting really means is just an absolute commitment to to being truthful you know

and and to not to knowing it and to understanding and put it in your heart enough that it's you and this other person you guys are are soldiers for a story that you're working on together and it's not about doing a whole bunch of acting. It's not about sort of showing anything. It's about being right there. And whatever it takes for you to get there, that's your method. I always loved, like when I got here, I was a dirty stand-up comic. I don't know about nothing.

You go to the comedy store, you do comedy, and somebody comes and talks to you one day about being on TV. But then I heard about bad acting. So I started taking acting classes. And it was so weird that I took, like, you take the basic one, like Frank Magna, off a gardener across. from Toy. Behind Toy,

there's a little actor studio. He was on Monday nights, but he hated stand-ups. He liked me, but he didn't like stand-ups in his acting class, because he says we were a little too wild from. So I went over to Ivana Chubbock. I don't know what the fuck she teaches over there.

But she had the blonde, you know, Therese Sharon. And she had Holly Berry, who had won Academy Awards back to back, so I got her everybody in town. And I enjoyed. When I was going to acting class, it showed me how to hustle as an actor. I wasn't hustling as a stand-up normal because the stand-up world wasn't responding to my material.

So I was getting breakdowns at five. I would pull them off and email them to my manager, my nine or my agent. And in those days, there was no computerized thing. So I had three agents. In my world, it was whoever called first. So I would call Sean Kerrigan. And Sean Kerrigan, they're casting this movie. I call you back in an hour.

You had an hour. What happened? I left a message. Go fuck your mother. Yo, call this guy. Yo, call this guy. I would say three people. And three people would be pitching the same one.

And it's amazing. I had three agents at one time. And the auditions I was going in, it taught me what each agent saw me as. I had a gay guy that was crazy gay up here in North in Ventura. I mean, telling me about bars in Hollywood where if there's a red light, they were all sucking dick. in there. I mean, this guy was crazy gay.

He only represented theater actors in New York. And he took me, he saw me at the store. But he would send me for high level stuff. Like, he was an agent by himself that would call casting people. Like, he got me a movie that it was an extra.

He contacted the writer and made the writer write me and he thought it would be a funny thing and they listened to him. Like, he had been around that long. Yeah. You know, like it's... I really got into the acting thing. Yeah. But And it got to a point where it got creepy. How so?

It was too creepy for me. Like I started working with people that they have to be in character before the thing and don't talk to me and, you know, the trailer. And then I was like, that's it. I'm done with that part of it. You know, listen, I love the acting thing. I love Stanislavski and I love Stella Allen, everybody. I got bad news for you.

I know a bunch of fucking black dudes from Compton that they put them in a movie with no previous experience. that could fog up the bottom of a glass. Queen Latifah, she came from East Starings, New Jersey. Look at it. So do you understand my comparison in my head? Like I was like, there's people, and then there's other people. But the people who study like you, I see that richness in your work.

Look, man, I appreciate you. I see that richness. But I hear what you're saying. You've got to live life, man. You got to go through life. You got to be, you know, that's what we do. We're telling stories. What year did you get here?

I got here. I think 2004. How about you, Sean? 2001. Do you remember in Santa Monica on Fountain right below, like, the comedy store in that area? There was an acting coach. And every hour on the hour, when you drove on Fountain, you would see 40 people. Reading lines out loud.

Reading lines on the street. I used to beep at them. He knows. He knows. I'd beep and go crazy. And I would tell him, get out of there. You're a bunch of dick suckers. I ain't going to do nothing for you.

You know, listen, in my world, me reading on Santa Monica Boulevard with some other mook. Yeah. Yeah. You ain't gonna fucking cut. Like, it just, it got too abusive. Yeah, yeah. You know, Ivana Chubbick was making women's trip. Like, when you meet an actress from Ivana Chubbik that's been there for a year, she's crazy.

Yeah. Because Ivanochubbic made women do shit they wouldn't normally do. Take off your blouse and show the audience of tits. And they would crack, dog. They would crack, dog. They would crack. But motherfuckers, I mean, you want a dream. You want a dream. That's it.

That's a problem I've really found, you know, I never did like acting classes out here, but you know, look, versus Russia, you know, here to be an acting teacher, so many people are doing it because it didn't work out for them or because they're validating their own sort of thing. Like they're staying in the world by taking other people's money and showing you how to do it, but you didn't fucking do it. So how are you showing, you know, like what do you really have to offer? And don't get me wrong, I think there's great coaches.

But you know, in Russia, the way it worked, the highest honor that you could get, the highest honor, was to be a teacher. So if you, you know, my teachers were the biggest, the biggest and most respected actors of stage and screen, those were the teachers over there. Who was one of the greatest NBA teams in the last 20 years? Who had one of the greatest teams? I mean, the Bulls.

Let's talk about the Bulls. Who coached the Bulls? Phil Jackson. Did you ever see Phil Jackson play basketball? He played. You wanted to stick a stab through your heart. He was the sixth man. Yeah, yeah.

And he had no meat on his bones. And I was in the eighth grade. And me and Wadi O'Donnell were gambling addicts. So we would split five times That's $12.50 apiece, $15 if you lose. Let me tell you something. Whenever they put Phil Jackson, we'd just hang up on each other. Like, we were kids, and we watched the fucking fucking whole game on the phone.

And we were like, come on, they're going to cover the spread. And all of a sudden, hold on, substitute Phil Jackson. Fuck! And you would hang up the phone because he'd always blow it. He was the best six-man in the league. But he had no bones to him. Just because you're not a good player. Yeah.

Doesn't mean, I believe that. There's a lot of things about me that I've seen it. I've seen guys that are not great comedians, but when you talk to them, they have great comedy knowledge, and you'll learn something. They just didn't know how to express it. Phil Jackson, every time they put him in, I just hung up on Wydie.

Whitey, go fuck your mother. You cock sucker making me bet the Knicks. You fuck, I thought he was hurt. You know what I'm saying? I thought he was hurt. Jesus Christ! But look what he went on to do with two teams. He came out to the Lakers,

a while or something. So that, I didn't mind that. There was one particular guy in town, and I don't want to give him out. He taught me for like six months, and then he booked the cold case. It was the worst episode of Coke case that ever made. Like, he kept calling me. When are you coming back? Never.

And I just hung up the phone. Like, I had the craziest acting teachers. I had a gay guy that had to him. And he would coach me for $20 a coach. He was the best game, best coach ever. He started getting me callbacks. Yeah, yeah. In those days, when you went to callbacks, Travol.

was in the room with Danny DeVito was in the room or like in callback he would just show up to a callback but the actors were in the room and the sides would shake you remember those days shan currig and they're like okay calm down just read it how it is you know what I'm saying like it's it's such a process but you said fuck I'm going to Moscow yeah yeah well I think New York yeah yeah fuck those dick suckers fuck L.A. and those dick suckers I'm taking it right to the hood or the to doot that's like going to move to Thailand that's like going to Thailand and following that perverted coach into the cave yeah but you learn muwitai in louis Thaiville you know you want to learn how to cook

french what we're going to learn in New York go to France for three fucking years that's what I respect about you thank that you went to the heart of fucking matter yeah you took two years it wasn't some smart idea of mine no man I got led that I didn't really I was no I just I just got lucky it absolutely you know all right you know all right He also lived in Russia. Who? Mike Swick. You remember Mike Swick, the UFC fighter, good guy. His mother was the consulate or the ambassador of Russia.

So he grew up in Russia. Oh, yeah. And one day he was telling me and Rogan Russian stories for six hours about how it works in Russia. You pay at every level. Every level. They don't fuck around. You get a dollar. It's not really your dollar.

It's not just on loan. Next thing you know, you got 18 cents. Everybody has their fucking hand down, Russia. That's it. Like just some creepy stories. Now after Russia, you end up in New York. Yeah, I went from Russia to New York. I was there for about a year or so, just doing what I could do.

And it was crazy. Actually, right from Russia, Harvard's got a graduate school for acting that takes their students to Russia to get taught by these Russian masters. They saw me in a show acting with these Russian kids. They saw me in a show, and they said, hey, what are you doing? I told them my story. They said, hey, would you want to come to graduate school in Harvard? and they invited me to come there.

I said, a kid, like, I didn't finish college. I was like a fucking fuck-up. And I said, yeah, man, of course I'll do that. So I actually went from Russia then to Boston. I lived in Boston for two years studying there and then went back to Russia, but this time, as a Harvard student. How are you making a living doing all this? Well, when I was in Russia, I played baseball.

I played some pro baseball, which was like a joke over there. But I got paid a little bit. But then when I went to Harvard, it's just student loans. And then you come out, and then you talk about a racket. You know, you talk about a kid coming out of acting school, and then you owe $70,000 and you can't do a fucking thing. You know, because that's the thing. I thought I was going to go to Harvard, and I thought,

finally I'm going to be with the best of the best. You know, they see 10,000 kids. They only take these few, and these are going to be the fucking best. And I remember on the first day, everybody got to do their thing. And I'm like, oh, really, this is it. You know, this is who's here. And, you know, for a lot of these kids, they never had a chance.

It's a racket. They actually closed the school down there because they were ripping people off because you saw the amount of loans that people took off and no one was making any money in the field. And so they said that the school was unlawful. Let's be honest, it's 2018 and they do it until you're here. You get out of college, one night you watch Saturday Live with your fraternity boys and you're like, that's what I want to do. I saw it for years. When I went to Improv Olympic to take writing classes, I just signed up to take a sketch writing class to learn how to write sketches. And I was surrounded by kids that were living off of credit cards,

that their dad sent them out here on a tweet like their dad's own, the biggest tomato company in, like Jersey, but said, okay, I'll give you a credit card and you go out there and they're at the Groundlings, they're out of Van der Chubbock. They're taking voice classes, and everybody's telling them not to go out in auditions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, don't go out on auditions, like, until I tell you to.

And they're like, okay. Like, I wasn't even in acting class, and I was taking chances of audition. I was telling the shit I booked the first two times, I didn't even know what, get on the mark or stand on the mark. I didn't know action or direct. I didn't know nothing. First job I went, they told me to go to the hair and makeup trailer. I didn't know what the fucking hair and makeup trailer. You know, Poppy Montgomery, I walked right into her trailer, man.

She was changing. She's like, get out, you motherfucker! And threw a fucking shoe at my head. She's hot. Oh, my God. She's beautiful. Yeah, I took an extra second closing the door. Yeah, absolutely.

So that was a TV show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I think the hardest thing, and I did not discuss it with you, Sean Kerrigan. The hardest acting job I ever had in that way that if I wouldn't have had the chops, I would have got fired. The first day was a soap opera.

Yeah. That's the hardest thing because nobody talks to you. It's like you got the flu. You walk into ABC, you sign in. They tell you to go to locker room to 12. You go to locker room 12. Some chick comes in and says, read the teleprompter. It'll tell you, what are you talking about?

You're the teleprompter. They'll tell you when to come out. And they'll say, scene 34, rehearse. You go out there. You rehearse, and the next thing you know, they're like, go. That's what I couldn't believe. Oh, my God. Fucking no joke.

I was like, we ain't fucking around. Then I had another scene that, like, stay close. And I'm like, stay close means an hour and a half. What? Shit, both soap operas I shot, I was in at eight and out by nine-thirty. Like, really, guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we don't play here.

This is four, three, four cameras. Fast-moving train. I would have never. And you know, like, when you, in a movie, you go, okay, action, your line is like, I told you not to fucking touch the dog. Yeah. They don't even play that shit. Yeah.

They don't even start from, I told you. They start where, the dog. Yeah, go. No, start from the dog. No, not from the top, no, the dog. Yeah. The dog. Okay.

was beautiful thank you very much for coming in they blow a whistle and you're out of there you get the thing they take your scarf off and I never saw nothing like that in my life like I was not if I would have got here off the boat and been prepared for and been hiring on the soap opera probably got fired I got fired my second job from Telemundo they hired me as a Cuban door man I went there there talking the street Cuban and they all looked at each other and I went out for lunch and before you come back I got a page from Daniel Hoff saying, don't even go back, they're going to pay you for the day.

And they paid for my after. After it was 850 back then. And they paid for my after. That's always great getting fucking fine. Yeah, that's, yeah, I got five. Now, let me ask you this, because I looked at the IMDB, the AMDB, your Wikipedia. How long did you do Tina and Tony's wedding for?

I didn't do that. I did the movie. I didn't do the play. Holy shit. I did the movie in New York. That was my first. When did the movie fucking come out? You didn't see it.

It didn't come out. Yeah, yeah. It didn't come up. Nah, nothing happened with that. Listen, I did that for one week. Oh, did you? I was in Seattle, and the guy came up to him when I needed to talk to you. And we want to make you the host of the thing, the guy that's the host.

Yeah. It was nothing. It was like $75 a week. Yeah. Four shows. You got to eat shitty spaghetti. You got following into the bathroom, taking a piss, making conversation. Yeah, it's crazy, man.

It's fucking hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they said, just do Wednesday through Sunday and let us know on Sunday. dog I told him on Saturday. I go, you ain't going to see Mike Cuban. What do you mean? We got a replacement. You're going to ruin it.

For what? The Tony and Tina's in New York or here? Teen and Tony's in Seattle. I'll tell you what, brother. I audition for that shit in D.C. like three times. I wanted to be in that place. In the play.

I mean, if I get paid to act at that point, you pay me anything, I'll do it. You know what I mean? It was interactive, though. He was interactive. Very interactive. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

The whole thing. The whole fucking thing. It drove me crazy. It drove me crazy. It drove me fucking out. I was like, I'm done with my career because I'm quitting this job. I never had nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who gives a fuck, Latin Antonio? Yeah, yeah. So you kicked the two years in New York. Were you booking anything in New York? I was doing all right, man. I was doing like some, you know, I did like the law and orders and stuff like that. I was getting enough that, you know, to me, I was getting enough that I would go in and I would do well so people would sort of have me back kind of thing. But, you know, it was strange, man, just like you, I was so green and I had no idea.

I had no idea what acting on camera really was about. I used to wake up every single morning. I get up and at 5 a.m. every morning they do something called EPA's, Equity Principle auditions where you could sign up. It was an open call every single morning. And for me, I just wanted to get better at audition. I guess it's like for you guys going to open mics. So I would get up and it's just they would take the first 200 people and it's people

without agents. So every morning and you, I don't know if they still do it, but you can get there. And if you're the first 200, the door opens at 5 and by, you know, 530. you got 200 people there. And every single morning, I'd go and I would just do my monologues in front of people. And for that, just to sort of exercise and see what that was like and just perform a little bit. So I was doing that. I got a couple jobs off of that.

And then I started doing a, I did Tony and Tina's. I did a few shows here and there. But then I remember there was, I really wanted to move to Los Angeles. I was with an agency that had an L.A. office. And my brother was living out here. One of my best friends was living out here. And so I told my agent I really want to come out there And they said, well, you don't have enough credits

We can't represent you out here So I say, you just let me know when an LA agent comes to the office One day he calls me up, there's an LA agent in the office I went, I went right up to like an asshole And I said, hey, listen, you're saying you can't represent me in L.A. So here's a thing. Let's just go in that room and let me just do this monologue for you And if after that I do that monologue, you tell me you can't represent me,

I'll leave you alone. But I just want to give it a shot. So we go into the room and I do the monologue, she says, you got an agent in L.A., you got it. And I went and did a play. Got rid of all my shit. Who was the agent? Marty Rosen's Way, right?

And I go, I went and did a playup in Portland, Maine. And when I was done, I was moving to LA and I called her up and I said, hey, it's me. Remember, I just want to make sure everything's set because I'm coming out there. She goes, yeah, you don't have enough credits. We can't represent you out there. I go, oh, I'm the fucking guy from the fucking monologue. Remember, I'm that guy? And she's like, yeah, you know, you don't have enough credits.

So I had a ticket out to LA. My brother got me a ticket because it was one of those weekends where it was like so fucking cold in New New York, they say, you can't even go outside. I call my brother. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, yeah, we're just getting high by the pool. Like, God, I want to fucking be out there so bad. He sent me a ticket.

I go out and I visit him for the weekend. And after the weekend, I'd gone out messing around with them all fucking night. And I'd lost my credit card. I'd lost my ID so I couldn't fly back. The next day, my New York agent gets me an audition in L.A. for a pilot. I end up testing for the pilot. Now all of a sudden they want to represent me.

So I had an agent. I just never went back. I just never went back. That was it. That's it. No looking back. No looking back. You've been here. And what year was that? That was like 2003, 2003.

And how was business then? It was rough, man. I mean, look, you know, those first couple years, I mean, I remember my wife, she was my girlfriend then. She's an ICU trauma nurse. And, you know, I would come home sometimes and I'd just be like, look, baby, this ain't going to fucking work for me. Like, it just ain't happening, you know.

And I'd be like, you know, I'd be sitting there crying in my pillow, you know, like this just after all this shit, after all this work, it's just not going to happen. You know, and then she tells me about her day. of like scooping some guy's brains back in his head or telling some little girl she's never going to see her dad again and she basically gave me a look like fucking buck the fuck up motherfucker you know stop that shit and uh it was about you know there was about a year there where it was really really rough and uh and then you know I started to I started to work

now and then I started to get you generate any work on your own these time did you send thank you letters to agent I did what you were talking about I was I was vicious about being on those breakdowns and I was vicious about I mean I would I would just go to casting offices where they were casting things and even if I didn't have an audition I would just look the one thing I will say I was very confident so I would go in and I would say look I know I'm not on any list and I know you're not supposed to see me today but I'll just fucking wait here and when you're done or maybe before lunch just let me do my thing and if you don't like it I'll never fucking come back see this is post nine this was his was easy because I was

pre nine 11 when you could walk in a lot yeah you can just walk to a lot gone going to nancy Gumbat's office. And in those days, I would get the, like, I didn't give a fuck. I took criminal skills. I was working with actors, and I was saying, how lazy are these guys? So wait a second, how does it work in your world? Well, our agent submits us, and then we wait for an audition. Yeah, fuck all that.

And I was like, that's not going to work in my work. Exactly, exactly. A gangster one time, a Jersey gangster told me that a casting director's movie, their job is to cast a movie. this guy was like a retard that told me this line. You know what? A casting director job is to cast a movie.

You ever think about that? I'm like, no. And I started getting envelopes. I would go on the breakdowns. But see, the breakdowns that people don't know at home, it's a service that comes out that tells you the commercial shootings in town.

Like not commercials and films are the commercial shootings. There's a thousand movies that have made that you don't even see the breakdown out. They don't even, it's all in-house, CAA and ICM, or they'll hire somebody from WME, but you don't see it.

In those days, you got called then. So it really teaches you. The breakdown also teaches you that even if you're right for something, you don't know how many times I went to the office and called, and they would say the guy had a brother-in-law, that was perfect for the job. I learned a lot because I didn't take no for an answer. In those days, I told him the other day,

If you're a comic and you're not up and up at nine and out of your house, don't fucking talk to me. Because in those days, at 9 a.m., I was all right. I had six or seven yellow envelopes. I remember going for an audition for a De Niro movie with Markey Warburg that was sold by Vinnie Curdo. Do you guys know who Vinny Curdo is? He's a boxer.

I won the Welterweight Championship at 44. He's a little box. He's tremendous to see out auditions. I would see him an audition and go, Vinnie, come here. Did you about to do De Niro movie? And he goes, no, who's casting? Casting out of New York. I just make up a name, John B.

And before he'd go in, he come back to me, and he go, what's the name of that movie again? And I go, Mafia Six, it's with these two guys, and I would goof on him. I'd go home and he'd call me and go, what's the name of the movie again? The Joe Rogan story. It's directed by John Berthel.

Who's in it? De Niro, Pacino, everybody. He'd call your agent. He would call me back. My agent can't find it on the breakdown. It was hilarious, but he really did won. He really did win, and he was supposed to fight Marvelous Marvin Hagler. Wow.

And he booked that dog. You guys, you two sit with him stories about Sammy the Bull made him fight under a Puerto Rican name and put a wig on him at the garden. Is that right? Oh, dog. If you open up Sinatra live from whatever, the album, it's all Vinnie Curdo with Sinatra. He's talking about being in Palm Springs with Sinatra, and Sinatra going, He didn't move for a hot dog.

He sent this pilot to Vegas to get Sabret hot dogs. And he goes, when he came back, and you know Vinnie Curler, he's a box. He's like, when he came back, he was cooking these hot dogs. And I did the math in my head. Those hot dogs must have cost $8,000 a piece to go get. So I ate like eight of them, just out of respect. Even though I wasn't training, I had to run an extra mile every day. He's got real stories.

And he said he was boxing at the garden under like the name of Tito Ortiz with a blonde hair on and that Sinatra walked in and Sinatra looked at him and goes Vinny, you ain't no fucking spit, get the fuck out of that fucking ring right now and Sammy kept saying, you better fucking be careful and he's like, he ain't fighting under no Spick's name

and they took him out and they took him to a hotel and hit him out for the night and Sinatra had to negotiate for him he's got dog as a script writer and Vinnie Curdle like forget shit he took a script writing class and he came out of he didn't sell that one script He saw two scripts.

He saw another script about being on the rum from the mob. And he went to Canada. That was a kid that was handicapped. And all he wanted to do is run up the hill. So every day he would push the kid to run up the hill. And finally the kid ran up the hill. And the next day he died. Dog, a story that everybody was in.

They would have a bidding war. But when De Niro bought the movie from him with Markey Warbrook. This is 98. That's when this guy. He's the guy. Any of you guys ever see 29th Street? It's an old movie about like a neighborhood with who was the Australian actor for a while that was really hot

Anthony Lumpaglia. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a really funny movie about the 29th Street, New York City, and he's the guy like, who sent you? No names. He's one of that. So when I saw him at the comedy store, I fell in love with him. And he's half Cuban, half Italian, he's from Boston.

And Rogan, all those guys will say, dog, his body shot. He was supposed to fight Hagler. But something happened. He was up next. How can he didn't fight Hagrid? Something happened. Something weird happened. But when he sold the script of De Niro and Markey Walberg,

listen, they were about to shoot on Monday, and he went to a party on Wednesday and started saying racial slurs about De Niro's wife at a party. Yeah, you can't do that. And that was the end of that tune. They pulled the fucking movie. But when I went to see that woman, I forget what her name was.

You ready for this? She goes, oh, before, first of all, I did a read that was just God awful. You ever read for somebody, and it's just God awful. Like, I just got in here. It was the third time in front of a casting director. It was god-awful. The next thing, you know, before you leave, she goes,

hold on, and she turned around. She gave me a stack of my envelopes with all the headshots. It was like 18. Like, I was hitting her up every week. I didn't fuck around, guys. Your job is to cast a fucking movie. My job is to book it.

My agent says I can't come in here because I don't have enough credits. That's great. Let me read for you. That's what I would do. I didn't give a fuck. Now, I advise you to do it. going to get into the gate unless they're in an independent building yeah you know you're not going

to get through the gate yeah but do you guys always have this confidence or did was it i can't because i can't imagine like all of us came to l.a and like l.a is like kind of scary to come to from the east coast you went from the east coast to russia where you didn't speak the language to a school where they didn't speak your language and to now coming out here but did it seem kind of easy to come out here to l. like it's not that big of it did i go back to the same thing i go i go i go back to the same thing like what we were talking about about boxing and being in the ring. And, you know, like, you got to go back to, you know, why you're doing it in the first place. Because I'll tell you right now, man, you know, three days into Russia, I got a gunpoint in my head.

You know, like being in that city, you know, seeing how far, first of all, seeing the Russian kids, seeing, you know, if you make it through that school, it's not like schools here. If you make it through that school, you're going to work. Like they see 10,000 kids. They take 100. and then they cut it in half each year. And then they only graduate 10 kids. And those 10 kids in their fourth year, when they show up at the theater each night,

all they do is perform in their fourth year. And when they show up each night, they're told which of 10 plays they're going to do and which role they're going to play. And it could be male or female. So they don't know whether they're doing West Side Story or they're doing handlet or they're doing, and they know everything.

They know everything's stone fucking cold. And so, you know, for me, like when I would run into trouble and when I would sort of, you mean, up, even now, you know, I mean, there's times where I run up against walls. I go back and I think about why am I doing this in the first place. I think about experiences I've had where there have been more people on stage than in the audience and we fucking ripped, man, we ripped, we put everything we had into it. And, you know, it's like if you can get through all those times, you can get through all this. I mean, shit, I'm doing a movie right now. Fucking Christian Bale, Matt Damon, huge director. You know, I got, you know,

it's an amazing opportunity. My friend, Michelle came and visited me on set. My first week, I'd gone right from Punisher into that. And I was, I was nervous as all hell. I was a mess. I wasn't myself. And he said, hey, motherfucker, be you, God damn it. Like, be who the fuck you are. You're going in like this.

I got an open palm now for all you people in fucking podcast land. And he closed your fucking fist and go in there and be who the fuck you are. And that shit totally changed everything for me on this. You know, we're all human, you know. And, but I will say, you know, for me, I had, when I look back, when I look back, If I saw a kid sort of in my position when I was first starting, I would say you have, you're a fucking goofball, man. You got way too much confidence.

I mean, I would go in and I would do things that I would never advise somebody trying to be an actor to do. I mean, I just literally would walk in any room, say anything, say I could do things that I couldn't necessarily do. I was just balls to the wall. There was no way you were going to tell me no. No way. And we have this comments.

This is a recurring thing because last year I started going back to open mics. I was a little disillusioned with stand-up, because you started as a hobby, and then one day it becomes a business. And that just throws everything off. You know, like, there's a script that you really want to do. You love the director.

You love the material. But there's no money in the project. And your agent's telling you that you got a movie with Antonio Banderas that pays your half a mil. But you don't give a fuck up that half a milk. You really, really want to do this movie. So it becomes a business, and it sucks. It sucks being on a stage you don't want to be on.

It sucks to be in a movie. You don't want to be in, and I'm sure you picked movies that said, what the fuck am I doing here after the third day? But my kid's going to eat next week. That's it. You know, your kid's going to eat next week, you know. I started going back to open mics, and I'm looking around. It's like if you went to acting class.

Right. If you told me next week, I'm going to the $100 a month. in class, which is the bottom of the barrel. And if you sat there, you're going to look around these people and say, I was every one of these people. And I'm a new comedy for 27 years. So I am every one of these people.

I want to know what kept you going that fourth year. That's the question now of the 27. Like, I even did a podcast two weeks ago where I broke down the first 10 years of comedy because I'm still looking for the answer. Like, who the fuck told you that you had a chance?

What the fuck do you think you are? Yeah. Like I would stand up every six months. I was like, what am I doing? I'm living in a basement. I'm barely paying my bills. I'm barely surviving. And then a headliner tells you, hey, man, that was a great fucking joke.

Those little things, man. It's fuel. And you're like, okay? That's it. That's it. Bro, that's a fuck. You were killing me in the back. Or you're at a club and a headliner laughs.

Or next thing you know, a headliner sees you. ask you to go on a weekend with them, those little things. And then they go from being one a month. Yeah, that's it. To two a month. And you're like, I'm still not making a living, you know, and then they go to four a month, you know. But that was my main question.

Like, I want Anthony Robbins to fucking go into the mind and let us know at the five-year mark what gave us the balls to go, you know what? I'm going to give this another year. Yeah. Like, for me, I kept saying six months. And then I would book a commercial. or Mitchie Shaw would give me an 1130 spot in the main room

or it was always something. It's why the fuck you're doing it in the first place. You say it's why you're doing it. You know what I mean? For me, man, you know, the experience of going in there, even if it's an audition that I never got, but going into a room and knowing I got every motherfucker in that room and they're feeling something,

that's why we're doing it for the money. We're not doing it for anything else. And how blessed are we that we get to live a life that our entire purpose is to go after. something that we'll never fucking get. We'll never fucking get there. And it's not about some crazy journey. I mean, it's not about some destination.

It's about getting there. It's about it's about chasing something out in front of you that you'll never attain. But you can always get better. You can always learn and you can always fucking fail. And you're really lucky to have that. You know, most people don't get that. Most people don't get to throw everything on the line and have that. I mean, for what you guys do going up there and fucking do state, you can fucking bomb

and embarrass the fuck out of it. yourself every night man and I like I thought well I would go watch him in the beginning I would be a nervous fucking I would be a mess and this is a guy and let me tell you something he will beat the fuck out of everyone in here and it didn't matter it didn't it didn't matter at all I'm like it's fucking Sean Kerry it's my it didn't I was so nervous for him I was like oh my God look at him up there oh fuck I he would start I'm like I don't know I know okay that was okay and you know people would laugh and I would people wouldn't be laughing or people would be talking I swear I was going to get fucking locked up again I was going to

kill them for fucking talking during his set. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's crazy. And I, and, and, and, you know, but look, every time you step on set, you've got that, you, you run that risk. Every take, you run the risk of fucking failing. And that's awesome. Because a lot of people don't get that, man.

A lot of people don't get that. Fuck all the money. Fuck all the other bullshit. That's why we do this. You know, when I was a kid, I used to read this book in the doctor's office, a Babe Ruth book. And it was like a little fucking cartoon book. And I remember there was this picture of Babe Ruth.

and he was fat as hell and he was leaning up against the ball field and he was eating a hot dog and he was talking to some kid he said hey kid I got it all figured out and he said what's that? He said I get paid to play baseball and eat hot dogs and that stuck with me

man I was like wow he gets paid to do the two things he fucking loves or fucking eat hot dogs and play baseball you know what I mean and there's something that you know you're blessed if you're in that position where you are where you are in your journey who gives a fuck you're on your journey

you know what I'm saying it doesn't matter no it couldn't be said I mean that's It's I couldn't imagine not doing stand-up and waking up one day when you're 52 Working in a general manager as I got nothing against the working man I'm just saying that You didn't go for your dream Even if it was a little little tiny dream What a shit life you had because you lived your life scared if you knew it if you know me some people they don't you know like

I think some people's dream is to you know who knows what somebody's doing dream is. You know what I mean? Some people's dream is to raise a family. Some people's dream is to travel the world. But if you're sick enough to have a dream like this one, you better fucking go after it with everything you got. You better fucking go. Because I think you're right. I think if you if you pull off on that, if you take your foot off the accelerator on that, you know, you'll never, you know, you'll never. And who, I look, I don't know, because I haven't done it. But, but I, I think that, I think that the thing that we fear is, shit, I just, I just didn't give anything here. I just I just didn't leave it all on the table.

And that's, that's an all, you know, it's like what De Niro says in Bronxdale, you know, wasted talent, man, nothing worse, no bigger tragedy. You know what I mean? So you punched it around this town until Walking Dead. Do you think Walking Dead was the beginning? You know, man, it was really two things sort of happened in unison, you know. You know, up into that point, I'd gotten into a lot of trouble growing up. And I just was like, you know, really, you know, I come from a family.

Both, both my brothers are, or my blood brothers are tremendously. successful guys and I was just the fuck up of the family you know and and I just couldn't get anything right I found this thing there's finally something I was good at but you know when I came out here even though life had tried to teach me every lesson I'd I'd been locked up I'd been fucking beaten up I'd been jumped I've been all this crazy shit got kicked out of schools when I found this acting thing I really found purpose and you know but I will say it was a time my life me and this motherfucker were running around the city like wild fucking animals.

But you were roommates at one time? I mean, we basically. I mean, we were with each other every day and day. I don't know if he was still roommates. We lived right down the street. Right down the street. But I mean, times were crazy back then. I mean, we were really, it was, it was crazy.

I mean, it didn't matter what hour of the day somehow. I mean, I saw this guy beat up some guy called himself a paratrooper. He beat him over the head with a fucking magazine at six in the morning in front of a coffee shop in Venice. I mean, it was like, you know, our best friend got stabbed in the stomach and you know we're delivering him to my little brother who's a doctor in the middle of the night like this is all happening while i'm going and doing movies with roman polanski and rome polanski and and oliver stone i mean like crazy shit was going on and we were just going a million miles an hour and then on july third 2009 uh you know we used to have this we used

to do this party in venice where i lived up on my roof i'm really good friends with the guy charlie tuna and guys from Fishbone, there's this great band called House of Vibe, and they play Wednesdays at Harvilles. It's sort of like the local Who's Who of the West Side hip-hop scene, and they would play on my roof every July 4th, and it was a crazy party,

everybody eating mushrooms and just having the time of their life. And the night before that party, I just needed to get away for a second. I was walking my dogs, I'm walking down the street, and I see there's like a house party, these assholes in this party,

and there's an old couple playing the Didgeradoo, right? And they're sitting there, and, you know, a man and his wife and I see this one guy and I just fucking lock on to this guy and there's just something about it where I just couldn't take my eyes off and he was with this group

everybody's all fucked up but he was like the ringleader and he goes up to this old woman who's playing the didgeridoo right next to her husband and he puts the didgeridoo on his dick so it looks like she's blowing his you know there's something about that

that just fucking pissed me off so much and I'm just looking at him and then all of a sudden he locked on to my dog and it was crazy because I'm like 20 yards away from him and this dog right here he calls boss over and you know boss runs over to him, right? And he's holding a dog. So I called Boss back and he held on to Boss.

And there's something about my dogs and my family and my friends. I just like, I can't, I can't take that shit, man. It was a different time of my life. So I went over and I grabbed boss from him and the guy goes, hey man, get your hands off my dogs. And he's got all his friends right there, right? And I just looked at him and I still just had a real coldness in my fucking heart, man. And I grabbed him and I started walking away. I said, come on, boss. And he said, I told you not to, you know, grab my dog. And he his buddy started following. me pushes me in the back and I turn around boom and I just hit him and uh you know at that point of my life man we we're just we're getting street fights all the time man all the fucking

time he was right up the street I hit this guy gets knocked out standing up crashes his head on the pavement he's fucking out his buddies jump me I'm trying to fight them off me they get on top me all of a sudden Kerrigan comes run so I don't know how the fuck this guy heard about it but carrying comes up bam and like he's trying to rip dudes off then the police come and it's this huge mess man and when the thing gets broken up, there's one guy, you know, lying in a pool of blood. And they say, who did this? And it's their party. So me and Kerrigan are handcuffed on the side of the road. And they're all pouring on me, pouring beers on our heads because it's all their people, you know. And anyways,

long story, long story, fucking long. They ended up taking me away because the guy wasn't waking up. They put him in an ambulance. He still had him woken up 45 minutes later. And I'd been in trouble my whole life. And, you know, I'm down there now. And, you know, I had a career, man. I was a series regular on a few TV shows. I'd done 12, 15 movies. And I'm sitting there on this bench in the Pacific Division. And, you know, all of a sudden, I remember being locked up when I was a kid because I'm in a situation where I'm handcuffed to this bench.

And, you know, they got the wall right there so you can't even move to one side or the other. And I had to piss so fucking bad. I couldn't believe I'm at a situation when I piss, I can't go piss. I got to ask somebody permission. He's not going to let me. And these cops are on me. Hey, if he doesn't wake up, that's it, motherfucker. You know how they are.

Just in my ear. If you don't wake up, you're done. And I knew, man, right down that bench, I said to myself, look, man, this is gonna go one or two ways. But if he doesn't wake up, I'm going down and I'm going through that room that way. And I'm done, man. I'm done with family.

I'm done with friends. And I'm gonna be the devil. I know what it means to be locked up in California, and you ain't getting out of that clean, and I'm ready to be that guy. I'm ready, and it was a scary feeling because it wasn't scared, it was peaceful. I'm ready to be that guy.

But, Lord, if you can just wake this guy up, like if you can just change this, I am done, man. I'm done with the bullshit. I'm done with the drinking. I'm done with the messing around. I'm going to commit to my lady. I'm going to commit to my work. I'm going to be about making a family. I'm going to trim all the fat off my life.

And I know I should have learned this lesson, but I've learned it now if you just give me this shot. And look, sure enough, this guy ended up waking up. He ended up suing me for a whole shit ton of money. You know, because I had just done Night at the Museum too, which they fucking put my face on the poster. So my poster's all over California. He saw it. He goes, that's a guy that knocked me out. So now he's suing me for $2 million saying he's got vertigo and PTSD and all this bullshit.

And point being, man, right after that is when I was faced with this situation where I had an audition for Walking Dead. And July 3rd, 2010, one year later, I was on set for Walking Dead. And I got married right after the first year Walking Dead. And that's really what my life changed. in every single way. And I started working different, started behaving different. And I can tell you, man, I've really,

you know, something Sean says all the time, man. I think the biggest gift you can hope for in this world, I don't mean to be, you know, preachy, man. But I think it's peace, man. If you can find some peace, some peace in mind. I got nothing left to prove to anybody anymore, man. I have real peace. I'm in love with my wife.

I'm in love with my kids. I'm in love with my career. And I get the best friends in the world. and there's no part of me anymore that needs to go out and be the guy. There's no part where if I see some sort of brand of injustice, I need to insert myself and say, hey, man, don't you fuck with that motherfucker. Now, don't get me wrong.

You're not going to mess with my wife. You're not going to mess with my kids or my friends. But I'm not going around with this, you know, I think we're confused, man. I think we're confused that we feel like as men, we need to go prove ourselves all the time and we need to assert ourselves. And to me, honestly, there's actually nothing less manly, I think,

than being the loudest voice in the room. And what I came to figure out, you know, literally a year later on July 3rd, 2010, I remember I ended up writing a letter. I never sent it to the guy. I wrote a letter to that guy that I knocked out. And I remember thinking and realizing that that was me that, and not to get too tribut, but that was me that was the old version of me, man. I saw shit in him.

I saw behavior in him. I saw a brashness and a loudness and a disrespect in him that I'd seen in the younger version of myself. And I was done with that guy, man. I was done with that guy. And, you know, that event ended up really changing my life right there along with Walken Dead. And I think you don't have, I don't have one without the other. It's so weird how a negative turned into a positive. If you can make it, man.

I still remember being in a jail cell with a fucking Armani suit on, with handcuffs on. And they just gave me six years. And I'm like, that's it. It's it. This is it. This is it. And you, I went to sleep. you know I just after I got sentenced I just laid my head down and fell asleep for three or four hours I was done and it took me more years to get peace but you're absolutely right there's nothing better than a peaceful man ever since I shot that Netflix thing in June everything changed for me especially comedy wise I'm a better comic because I'm at peace now I really don't give a fuck that I bombed or whatever the fuck they think it's what I do today you know that's it's it

And I go home and it's so weird how did you have a was there a transition period when peace came into your life that you figured something was missing? Have you ever had that? Look man, I think anytime you give up anything, the first thing that happens is there's a big ass hole. You know, and when I sort of gave up kind of being crazy and going out and doing all these things. And, you know, I didn't know what the fuck to do of myself. I didn't know who I was. I didn't know if I could act. I didn't know if unless I was the guy sort of bleeding out and being the craziest. I mean, you can ask Kerrigan. I mean, I was the guy, man. You know, I was the guy who was doing the crazy shit. And anything that people were down for, I was, hey, man, let's go. And when I gave that up, you know, the case of my, my deal was, I sort of was under this, I was under this deal with the prosecutor's office that I had three years where if I was,

I didn't need to be charged and I didn't need to be convicted. But if I was arrested in association with any kind of violence, It was a mandatory 10 years in L.A. County. And those three years, man, right after that, I just, cold turkey stopped. Just stopped everything. And I didn't know what the – I was really scared, man. I didn't believe in myself. I didn't know who the fuck I was if I wasn't being that guy.

But, you know, then, you know, that's life, man. That's growing up. It's like you start to get something new in. You don't know what the fuck it is. But you don't run from that. You run towards it. And I think it's weakness and cowardice to run back to what's familiar to you all the time. And I think especially if you're going to be an artist,

you've got to run to what scares you. You got to run to what you don't do well. You got to run else you're just doing the same shit over and over again. And fuck you, man. Like you got this opportunity. You got this opportunity to be a professional fucking artist. Like challenge yourself. I fucking love it.

You know? Yeah, fuck it. My dick gets hard. That's it, man. I go up there. You know, again, I always knew, you know, and it's dumb. I always knew from watching those stupid YouTube tapes that Lenin Skinner that had something in their head.

And in the documentary, they said, our goal was to blow the band behind us out. And that's what my goal is now, as gentlemanly as I could do, is if I'm at the Columnies Store, I'm destroying that thing. I don't care what comes out of my mouth no more. I'm not politically correct at all no more. It doesn't matter to me. I'm going to take you into my world,

and that's what stand up is, taking you into my world, you know. Not to get too much into that. And after Walking Dead, it hasn't stopped. out. Yeah, you know what I mean? Walking Dead was crazy, man, because, you know, we did this show that was, you know, look, man, it was a zombie show on AMC. We got picked up for... When you first read the fucking pilot, you're like, are they fucking serious? No, man, when I read that piles, this is the best shit I ever read. I mean, I auditioned for like a network show that would have solved all my money problems. It would have,

that lawsuit, I would have been able to piss on that fucking lawsuit. It would have just gone away, and I auditioned for it and I got the gig. It was a show that was in syndication. I would have been set forever. But I knew that I still had this walking. dead audition. And I read that pilot and I said, that is the best, that is the best script that I've ever read. That's the best pilot I've ever read. And I turned down the thing just to go do an audition. My people thought I was fucking out of my mind. But I went in and it happened and it worked. And, you know, it was a very humble job. Nobody thought it was going to be big like it like it was. But you know, you had a bunch of people there that all really

believed in it and believed in the same thing. It was a group of, group of pirates, man, like badass, badass actors, badass crew. You know, way out in the fucking woods in Atlanta. You know, there's no trailers and no crafts. You're just out there. People getting bit by spiders and snakes and shit like that. And it was just great. It was just, it was lightning in a bottle.

And then it blew the fuck up. And the next thing I know I'm getting killed off it. So then bring back all that fear. And of course, you're a fucking loser. That's what you deserve. Like, this was the fastest, you know, rise and fall ever. I did two years and I could have been on a syndicated show. Yeah, yeah.

Now I, you feel like that guy that turned down friends. That's it, man. That's it. That's it. That's it. Go for you. You should shoot yourself. You should have been next to the next to Bordane.

You know what I'm saying? That's it. You turned down friends, you dumb fuck. That's it. I didn't like the creative freedom, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You fucking shut the fuck up. But it's a blessing in the skies.

It was the best thing that ever happened to me. Best thing that ever happened. Again, something happens. That's it. Now, you're like me. Every time you do it. Like every weekend, I swear to God. Every weekend as I'm getting on the plane to come home, I'm like,

I guarantee those people are going to call the club, and they're going to cancel me at the next gig I'm going to. Even though I sold out the room, even though I killed them in my mind, yeah, I must have had one bad set, one night, I didn't notch this together. I always think it's the last job. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, look, man. And even as an actor, do you feel that?

100%. Wrap. 100%. You're home for three days, and you're like, Yeah, I asked him what I was like that first week of this job. I was, you know, I was a mess. But I think that means you give a fuck. It means you care and you realize.

And look, man, you know, the hardest thing for me is I got three little kids, you know, that I love more than anything in this world. And I mean, anything. I kill for him, I'll die for him. And I'm away from them so much because of my work. And I'm putting their name on my work. That's what their daddy's building. That's why I'm not around. So I sure as fuck, I think about it every time before I start.

You know, when they're older and they go back and they look, it's not because I was doing some doofy, you know, bullshit, man. You will see that I was working my ass off, that I was sweating my ass off, that I was giving everything I had. Because if I'm away from them, I'm not out in the club and I'm not. Right, I'm the same way. No, not, man. If I'm got to be away from them.

I got to pick up an envelope to get away from mercy. That's it. That's it. I'm sorry. I know your movie's going to get to a festival. And I know it's going to be great. but you want me in Marina Del Rey for three days on their cuff. She's got to go be a karate at four.

That's it. I take her the bully buster at four and swimming at 5.30 and there's gymnastics. And that is, you know, I live in this area here where people send their nannies to karate. There's a couple of kids that bully buses at the kid. A lift pulls up. Where's the parents? Here, I'm the piece of shit from Jersey. They grew up with a single mom.

My mom snorted coke and drank. Well, my mom got involved in everything I did. You know what I'm saying? You can't even drive the kid to karate. No place I'd rather be. No place I'd be. And me, you know, there's times I'm on the computer and I'm on fire.

I'm giggling, I'm stoned. I'm putting my finger in her ass. Yoga. I love yoga pussy. And I'm typing. I'm going nuts. And she just walks in, puts her leg on my leg. And goes, Daddy, I'm out of some superhero.

All right. And it ends. There's no hold down. Let me write one more paragraph. Yeah, I finished the sentence. Like, hold on, I'll let Dad do this. And I sit there and I put YouTube on for her. I said, you know what?

Whatever money I could have made that Thursday night in whatever city can't make up for that hour of sitting there. Because after 30 minutes, you're like, I can't get this hour back. Yeah, you're never going to get it back. Yeah. And I know, for me to be away from Mercy, it just takes a lot. Like tonight I pick her up. We got two podcasts today.

That's it. I pick her up at 5.30. We go for pizza tonight. Nice. We're slimming pizza. We stop at Yum Yum donuts. I told her I'd get her a donut tonight. Daddy, get me the blue ones with the sprinkles.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I sit there and watch some movie about bumblebees, and she breaks the whole thing down. And God forbid, I look away at the clock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because she'll go, Dad, and she'll turn your cheek. I got one of those that sits on the lap and actually hold your cheek. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you have to watch it, and then she'll look back at you. Daddy, that's the guy. I love that. And that you cannot, you know, You look at a, I'm sure you've met movie star sons. Yeah. And look with the kids alike. There was no attention.

There was Gidas and premieres and you're special. You go to the front of the line because your daddies and movies. But there was no real hanging out, you know. I respect you, man. Thank you, brother. In fucking a thousand one ways. Just your passion for comedy, your passion for acting. How you treated me on the fucking film.

Man, that movie, man. And it's great that he's coming today, that Pete's coming today. Pete Segal's a good guy. You know, when I got the audition for that, yeah. I look, you know, you get an audition. I got it from Dave Seekaw, right?

The best. And we were with the same age in a while. Oh, nice. Dave Seekleer used to wear bowtie. He's the best gay guy in the business. He wore bow ties and he didn't give a fuck. Purple ones. Like, I'm here, I'm queer.

I don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying. And he called me up and he goes, they called you. win and I did the longest yard for peter seagull when I was doing an eight ball every two hours in fact the producers pulled me aside one day they're like you gotta give a breathing on that film on that film on the longest yard oh on the longest yard okay they sent me to a doctor oh they knew something was up had twitch to me and shit yeah you know and they said we gotta give it a breathe and then at the premiere Pete sego had a couple cocktails in him and they came up to me he goes

you weren't my first choice and I was like you know what you go fuck yourself bitch And they had to separate this at the premiere a little bit. That was how it ended. I knew he didn't like me because when you do an Adam Sala film, you got two directors. You got the director and Adam. And I went with Adam. I had to go with Adam.

Adam was the one that hired me, so me and Pete had this never again. He did Get Smart, didn't call me in. And then when I saw the movie, I MD beat it, and Pete was in it. He was a director. I go, I'm not going down there. I'm not going to get it. it. And then, fuck, and I go,

who the fuck is he that time me? If I kill it, he's got no choice. That's it. And I went down and killed, it went back again rebate him. And I told the casting director, it was Puerto Rican at the time. He stole Puerto Rican. I know him for years. I just tell him about, I pulled him aside.

Can I talk to you for a second? I go, listen, tell Pete, when I did the longest yard, I had a lot of problems. But I took care of those problems. He gave a good job from me. He goes, what are you talking about? It was Pete who called you. Yeah. So that was it. Like, it was so, after that, I confronted him on the set of the longest,

that we spoiled him, and then I had him on the podcast. And I told him, he's got a great Twitter that he should come on. So he goes, you know, I'm coming out today. Nice. But, no, we had a great time shooting that. And then. Did you say goodbye to, how, did you say goodbye to De Niro on that? Yes.

Yeah, tell me about that. I got to, I, you know how he was. What was he like for you, man? For me, it. came in the first day and I did that one scene where he goes, you my train or something, and I go that way. Then the second scene was with you, when you interrupt us, and he kept calling me a fat fuck, and after every take he kept going, I'm sorry.

Yeah, he's so sweet. He's so sweet. He goes, I won't use that word, and you get offended. I go, you butterfucking use it. And then I had a scene where he was jumping rope, and I was busting his balls about his tits and shit. I remember that, yeah. And then there was the last scene I shot with him was the best

because L.L. Cool J. kept calling him Benjamin Buttons. Yeah. You're saying, you Benjamin Buttons looking motherfucking all this shit. I'm, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he fires, whatever, you know. But I think as I was leaving that night, I went to his assistant first, his trainer. Sure.

And that's something I learned that as soon as I left that movie, I started doing. Yeah. You know, after he did Raging Bull, he hired that trainer was the offensive, or he was the strength and conditioning coach or the Jets. Right. So De Niro hired him for the summer to be his coach for the raging bull to get him into physical shape. And he's worked for De Niro ever since. Great guy.

Great guy. So to get to De Niro, you kind of had to talk to him, and then they start. But he started talking to me direct, you know. And I play, you know, when you talk to Niro or anybody like that, your heart's breaking inside. You feel like jerking off and putting it on your face. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just want to jerk off in your cup, put it on your face. You're like, I'm talking to the Niro.

I'm talking to Pacino. I'm talking to whoever. Yeah, yeah. But then you just, because you realize they put their pants on one leg at a time. That's it, man. And he had, like, this great demeanor to him. Like, he was robbing deniero, but it didn't give a fuck. I didn't call him Bobby.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, the rest of these jerk-offs. I didn't know that shit. Yeah. And then at the premiere, he was sitting in front of me. Yeah. And he just fell asleep three minutes into the movie. He's that old.

He just was sitting there with a little cap. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. God bless you. That's so good. My buddy kept going, should we wake him up? He said, he's like Sinatra at the end. He didn't remember the lyrics.

Sinatra at the end would go out with that wig twisted, and he had the teleprompters, and he'd be singing New York, New York, and he'd go, and let's sing at old. Just pay the 80. Don't expect much. Here's the 80. Just do what you do. You know, he was, I met him.

I saw his social disorder. He has a social disorder. And once you see it, you feel better about yourself, because we all have. I worked with him and analyzed that. Oh, okay. And that's when the Sopranos were very hot. And we shot on that block.

Okay. So all the New Jersey Italians are like, and all this shit. And he walked out of his trailer onto those 80 people and he just slammed the door. He's like, I, yeah. Yeah, and that was it.

Like he fucking had the cops pulled the people away. I realized his social. But, no, I had a great experience for him. Yeah, I loved him, man. I loved him. You know, I played his son in the movie And the only reason I did that movie, obviously, it was like, you know, I had just done Wolf of Wall Street.

And all I, you know, when I heard I could work with him and I'd have scenes with him, I'm like, I'm fucking in. I'll do whatever I can to do this. And, you know, went out there, same as you. I really wanted to give him his space. You know, everybody's kind of around him. And I had so much respect for him, you know, because between takes, he just stands on his mark and he's, you know,

I mean, that movie, it wasn't exactly fucking, you know, I mean. Was it an Academy Award? Nah, no, nobody knew, you know, but, like, he just, but, you know, he would put everything you had into it. and I had so much respect for him. And it was just he's one of those guys. You know, you meet him. And sometimes they turn out to be just such a fucking disappointment.

He was just everything, man. He was everything for me. And I remember when the film was over and, you know, we'd gotten close. We had gone on a couple dinners and he had said some nice things sort of towards the end. And I remember on the last day, you know, I went up to him and I said, you know, it's going to be very hard for me to say goodbye to you. And he said, you know, I said, maybe I could, you know, I could come say goodbye when this is all done. He said, yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, I went to the assistant, you know, and they had me go to his trailer at the end of the day.

And I was sort of waiting outside. And I'm pacing back and forth. Like, how am I going to say goodbye? And he's my idol, you know? And I'm like pacing back and forth outside the trailer, and they're loading up and loading up. And then these three guys come out and they say, okay, Bob's ready for you. You can walk on in. I walk into his trailer and it's just him in there.

And he's mixed two martinis, you know, and I go and it's just him and me. And I said, you know, listen, I just want to tell you. I've never said this to you before, but you know, you're my favorite actor. And I said, look, I got a lot of trouble in my life. And you're the real reason why I am an actor. When I saw the kind of roles that you played over the years, and I saw that you could do that, I realized that there was a certain kind of energy that when I tapped into, I only got in trouble.

If I tapped into that energy like you did, I could actually make a life for myself. And now I got a life and I got a family and I got a career. And the whole time, it's like I was literally spitting. He wanted nothing to do with this. It was making him. him so uncomfortable. He's like pushing me away. And I said, look, no, no, no, listen, Mr. De Niro, I got to say this. I got to get this off my chest. You know what I mean? And he just, he did not fucking want it. You know what I mean? And I was like, I got to say it. I got to say it.

And then I said, you know, and that's just, you know, Bob De Niro, the actor. But now I've seen you and I consider you a friend. And I can't believe your work ethic. I can't believe how committed you are. You know, you're so much of a better guy than I ever hoped to dream. You know, I'm just kind of late. And I'm crying like a little fucking baby. You know, I'm so bad. You know, he just wants it to end and wants it to just stop, you know what I mean? So then it finally ends, you know what I mean? And like, I wasn't looking for anything back. I didn't want any, you know, I didn't need, I sucked your dick, now suck mine. I wanted nothing, you know what I mean? I just wanted to tell him the, I just wanted to get this off my chest because I thought

I never live with myself. If I didn't tell my idol that he's my fucking idol and that he was better than what I thought. And so when the conversation was over, naturally, it just sort of fell to this awkward silence because now he's got to say something. And he's sitting there and he's looking at me and he's like, you know, we do these things and then they end. And that's all he fucking said. You know what I mean?

And he didn't mean anything by it, but, you know, he just couldn't, you know, he didn't want to engage. And I, you know, I felt so bad for kind of putting him in. That's it because that was all on me, man. And I wasn't looking for anything back. But it's that social, you know, and I see it with a lot of great, like we're not in the, You know, it's like, and I'm sure it's the same with comics, too.

You can get in front of a room, you can get in front of a room and just rip the fucking place down. But I'm sure there's sometimes you're out with your daughter, you're out, you're doing your things. You know, you're not, you don't want to be the fucking MC. You don't want to be, like, that's, it's two different things. And just because you can do one doesn't mean you, you can do other. And sure as fuck doesn't mean you want to do the other. And I could tell, man, he just, he just wanted to move on and get going. You know what I mean?

And, and there was no lack of love in what he said. But I say what I needed to say When have you bumped into him again? I have not bumped into him again. No, no. But he's, you know, I have bumped into, you know, Mr. Scorsese and, you know, other folks I've worked with and he's always passed along, you know, very kind.

You know, he was very, very good to me. He was very good to me, very kind to me. How was my man in Sicario? I was... Which one? The Spanish dude. Benicio? Yeah.

He's the best in the world. You love to death? I mean, look, man. I work one day with him in the scene. I just come off of this movie Fury where they're, you know, we're eight months in a fucking tank, you know, not showering, fucking, you know, shy of a bus fucking, you know, pulling out his fucking teeth and you know, we're all like going madman in this fucking movie and pushing each other and, you know, throwing bottles of piss at each other when we feel like the

acting's not good. So I came from that world right into two days on Sicario. And I remember I'm doing this scene with him and Josh Brolin. I'm in the back of the car. Right. And in the script, it says my character, I think it was 10. or some shit. Ted is crying his eyes out. So the scene starts and they roll cameras

and I don't do anything. And Brolin's like, hey man, you gotta cry, man? You gotta start? I mean, what do you mean? I'm like, make me cry, motherfucker. You know, because I'm coming from fucking fury where that's what it is. And I'm like, let's go.

I'm like, I'm not going to fucking cry. Fucking make me go. Let's go. Let's go. Come on. I'm like, fuck it. And the cameras were rolling and that's how I got into it. And fucking Benicio just takes his fucking finger and grabs me, sticks his fucking... He puts it in your fucking ear. And I'm like,

you know, and I started playing it, you know, like screaming and fucking out. And they fucking, you know, and what a fucking, what a monster he is.

I mean, what a great, you know, he was right. He was like, oh, you want to fucking play? You want to play big boy? Let's go big boy.

And he just was, you know, he's a genius. He's a genius. And I, I love him for that, man. I love you. He's one of my favorite. Another guy who,

and Brolin too. Another, I mean, I think Brolin is the fucking best, man. The best. He was so good. He was great in American gangster. Oh, so fucking.

Damn, he was good to American gangster. So, fucking hard, man. So good. And, you know, those are the guys. You know, I don't know. It's like, for me, I still go to movies for performances. You know, I go to movies, go see directors direct, and I go see actors act, you know. And if I know Brolin's doing something, Benicio's doing something, DiCaprio, you know,

if those guys are doing something, you know, there's a list of them. I got to see it. I got to see what they're doing, you know. Listen, bro, it's not going to be too long until you're going to be one of those guys. Thank you, brother. I see it. We'll see me. And I'm happy you took the time.

Oh, fuck, man, of course, man. I'm such a fan of this, man. It meant the world to me that you came down. And, man, you do a lot of good, man, on this show, man, because it's all fucking heart. You guys are funny. No, but it's just fucking heart, man. I don't want to hear no shit. I want to hear about it.

And you brought the dogs, which you were, when you hit me, I was in a meeting. So I couldn't spell it out for you. Okay, okay. That gave me a fucking ear beating. I'm trying to say yes. Yeah, yeah. And me, I love dogs. I don't give a fuck about it.

Look, I got St. Lazaro here or whatever. But, Sean, I got to tell you a funny story since this is your comic. I got to tell you, you weren't here. Joe Rogan used to, did you hear that? He had a dog for a while named Frank. Joe Rogan was a saver of Pit Bulls for a while. He had Frank, and then he had another guy, and then he got a girl. From a friend of his that plays the guitar.

The girl was a little chubier and older, and she ended up killing one of the dogs. But before Frank died, we went to the comedy store on a Tuesday night. And this is when the comedy store was Men's Mort. Nobody went down there. People had been shot. Tuesday night was Black night. So nobody white went in there. It was really sad.

But Mayneroon. Wednesdays was maybe 60 people. Thursday was maybe 65 people. Then the weekends were the weekends. But we were there like on a Wednesday night saying there was 60 people in the audience. And Joe was coming from somewhere from a set. He's bringing the fucking Frank with him. So I knew Frank at that time and Joe.

So we're outside. I'm hugging Frank and whatever. And next thing you know, they go, Joe, you're up next. And he goes, Joe, can you just hold Frank from me? So I hold Frank by the stairs. You know, like if you go up to the belly room and Joe's on stage, but Frank could hear Joe's voice and he's going nuts. He's barking.

So finally, one of Pauli's friends, that great guy, he comes over and he goes, Joe's in there yelling just to let the dog on stage. It's 10, 15 at night. There's 60 people. Frank, I leave him off the leash. He runs. He gets up on the stage. Joe gives a dog on stage. He goes, let's keep it going for Frank. Frank fucking goes into the

shit and takes a shit right on the fucking stage at the comedy store while everybody's in the audience. And it smells like 10 dead Iranians, right? It smells like the whole original room smells, the stairs in the hallway. Joe takes the dog off. He's like,

I'm sorry, he ate a bad mouse. Who eats a good mouse? You know what's a bad, fucking mouse. He took like a 16 shit on the stage, but it smelled so bad. So in between comics they had to come up like a little Mexican dude and this white manager and had scrub the shit. Joe's up there

giving 20s out. Fucking. So sometimes, that's what I kept thinking about. The dogs are going to take a shit in the studio. And me and Lee are going to be cleaning it later on. What are you doing this thing with Christian bail now that's all, Sean's also got. Sean also has a few days on it. But you got Widow

coming out. Yeah, Widows coming out. I got a movie with Shia LaBuff that's coming out. And then this one, for Ferrari, that's going to be a big one. And then we just finished season two of Punisher. Fuck. Yeah, man. So Tate said, don't forget about him. Yeah, fuck it. Because he sent Keith Jardine to you. Keith, Keith is the best man. I love that motherfucker, man. So he was saying last night, hopefully I get on Punisher the third season. I would love to have Tate. Tate's a great guy. You were great in the accountant, by the way. Thanks, bro. I watched that on two planes.

Thank you, that's always on planes. and shit and the whole thing. Both of you guys, all three is. I love you as all. And anytime you have an hour to kill when you just want to talk some shit or about a movie, please, you're always welcome here, brother, all right?

I want to thank John Bernthal for coming in. I mean, John, you're a fucking savage. I appreciate you with all my heart and Sean and the guy and the dogs. I mean, it was a great podcast. We had a great time today. But listen, don't forget. Don't forget.

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