The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #631 - Bas Rutten

Episode Date: November 1, 2018

Bas Rutten, a multiple time Heavyweight Champ in the UFC and Pancrase, actor and broadcaster, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Ridge Wallet - Use c...ode "church" for 10% off your order at ridgewallet.com/church   Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.      

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Starting point is 00:02:59 When you were a kid, this song made you want to fuck and you had nobody to fuck. Nobody was fucking, you walk around frustrated. What fucking whole lot of love? Nobody wants to suck my dick. You know what I'm saying? Everybody sucks Led Zepple's dick. Nobody wants to suck my dick. suck my dick.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And Burbank. Poss Rootin in the house. Whoop, whoop. What's up, my friend? Always a pleasure to see you. Yeah. The mouthpiece is still working. I still use it.
Starting point is 00:03:25 It's effective as fuck. We'll talk about that later. But now, about a month ago, I see something, people bleeding from the fucking head. You know, you open up Facebook, and you see some guy bleeding, and it's bare knuckles, and I'm like, oh, we're going back to Charles Bronson. Yeah, hard times, buddy.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I'm going, Jesus Christ. And all of a sudden, you and I speak on the phone, and you tell me you just got appointed the president of the, what is it? WBKFF, the World Bear Knuckle Fighting Federation. And where are they out of? It's Casper, Wyoming. We're located in Chicago, but Casper Wyoming is right now, I believe, one of the only states that legalizes it.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Bear knuckle. So all the fights have to be in Casper. Yes. That's crazy. Yeah, they're in Wyoming. I've done comedy in Casper thousands of times. Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:12 So anywhere in the state. to Wyoming you can bare-knuckle it. That's it. And I think, well, you know, it's frowned upon, right? A lot of people, they think, oh, there's going to be blood all the place and people CTE. But actually, I did a Google search because before I said yes to them, I said, let me give me, give me a day. Let me think about this.
Starting point is 00:04:30 And I start Googling and I could not find a test that said otherwise, if you Google is bare-knuckle boxing safer than boxing, every test will say yes. And the reason is that like hard times, we were just talking about, how time. You remember the bold guy who would catch all the punches on the forehead, right? He was leaning over the whole time and that's what happens. You're going to break your hand. Like in the 1800s when boxing was bare knuckle in England, they realized that if somebody defended his title, then anybody broke his hand in the process, he couldn't defend his title for the next six months. So the promoter goes like, man, we gotta figure something out. Now,
Starting point is 00:05:02 we all know this about mixed martial arts, we went through this, but a lot of people still out there, they believe that the glove is invented to protect the head, but it's not. It's to protect the hand. That's why they invented it because people, broke their hands. What is bad about that is that normally bare knuckle fighters, they hit about 40, 50% of their power hitting the head because they do not want to break their hands. So they focus more on the body and they hit less hard to the head. So CTE-wise, it's actually safer than boxing. Boxing, you have a boxing glove, you can just hit as hard as you can. And trust me, if you hit bare-knuckle something and you with the boxing glove something, the power, the impact is going
Starting point is 00:05:37 to be the same. Only with the glove is going to be much harder because you're not going to break your hand. course it will penetrate more with a bare fist but that on the face has nothing to do with it yes you're going to get lacerations that's the thing we're going to have a problem with but but that's about it we have plastic surgeons we didn't have normal doctors we didn't take normal doctors we have plastic surgeons at the event two of them so if does somebody gets cut you know we have plastic surgeons to stitch them up and make sure that it almost doesn't show oh my god i'm starting to faint just listening to you.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Crazy, right? What do you think as a fight, like, if you were still fighting, would that be something you'd be like, that sounds like terrifying? 100%. I truly believe because I just did another interview and they said, you think, oh, this is more like the guys in M.M.A. who didn't fight for a long time and they want to come back now and they want to do bare knuckle boxing. And I said, well, if bare knuckle boxing would have been there at the time when
Starting point is 00:06:29 M.M.A. started, I think a lot of those guys would have actually chosen. No takedowns. No takedowns, no, nothing. You can clinch, though. You can hold and you can do uppercut. almost like dirty boxing. He can do that as well. So, yeah, once we get over that hurdle,
Starting point is 00:06:43 once people see it, once you start watching bare knuckle boxing in England, it's huge in England right now. And actually Julian Lane, you know, I want to bang that guy, you know, from the Ultimate Fighter. He went to England. He beat the bare knuckle champion there
Starting point is 00:06:56 who was 18 fights undefeated. And we have him on the card as well. So I'm super stoked about this card. It's going to be great. And I think we're going to see fighters using different strategies, you know? It's different than MMA. It's a different distance than MMA.
Starting point is 00:07:10 The punches penetrate easier because there's no gloves. MMA is tiny gloves. It also penetrates easier. But boxing, of course, bigger gloves and tie boxing. You see, so it's harder to penetrate. Now, yeah, every punch is probably going to slip through. But you're going to have to pick your shots. Because if you punch me and I just lean over
Starting point is 00:07:25 and you hit the top of my head, it's night night to the hand. You know, you're going to break your hand. And that's why they go 40% to the head. You know, it's funny when we start the conversation, this is why I love you to death because right away you started with CTE.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yep. Right away, that seemed like that was your biggest concern. You didn't look at money. You wanted to, you really cared about... You know, I don't want to do something
Starting point is 00:07:48 that I'm going to feel bad about later in life. You know, I thought, what if some people start dying? You know, because the first thing, and I don't want to do this. Somebody told me, no boss, it's actually safe
Starting point is 00:07:59 than boxing. But, you know, you hear that, but you don't really know. So that's why I said, let me Google a little bit, let me play around with this tonight, and let's see what happens. And then you find out
Starting point is 00:08:06 that this. It is indeed better than CTE, CTE better for the fighter, for the boxer in this case. And it's same, it's like there's a ref in the ring during the whole? Everything. Everything is very classy. We're going to have a very classy show. We have the ring goals with nightgowns. We get, you know, Jimmy Lennon Jr. is the ring announcer. We got Kenny Rice is back with me. You know, we got a whole really great team. We have Frank Belmontie who did the Pac-Man Mayweather show. I mean, we have the production top-natch, top-nice. And is it only live or can I watch it online on TV or something?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Well, we're going to start online on Fight TV. That's for the prelims fights. We have four of them, five maybe. Because you know how it goes before the fight. Everybody is sick and he cannot, didn't approve. And it's a freaking nightmare. Now I know what it really is. You know, it's a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:08:54 But then after that, you know, when people see the production and they say, hey, man, wow, I would love to check it. 29.95. We kept it very cheap. Also, if you want to do the high definition, of course, like 10 bucks more, I believe. Okay, cool. So now, how many, what are the rules? for this now. How many rounds?
Starting point is 00:09:08 There's five rounds or two minutes, which you can play a round with. Once you do a title fight, you can increase the rounds. Two rounds, two minutes per round. Two minutes per round, five rounds. I think for an MMA fighter, we have a lot of MMA fighters. We also have a few pro-boxers. A woman pro-boxer and a guy pro-boxer also. The guy who fights Sir Julian Lane actually
Starting point is 00:09:24 is a pro-boxer who wants to try it out. And now we finally can figure out if all the boxers say, oh, we beat these MMA guys easy in boxing. Well, now's your chance. We have bare-knuckle boxing. Let's come over to our side. and see if you actually can do that. So you think that fighters will go to different strategies
Starting point is 00:09:42 because of the head to hand? That's pretty brilliant that you thought all this out. Yeah, no. We just talked about the movie, Hard Times with Bronson, that's what the guy does. That's how everybody breaks their hand in that movie, and it's true. You know, I told the story that I was sparring after seven years. I didn't spar.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I took a problem of fight in 2006. And I was sparring with the guy. And first he asked me, do you want to spar? I said, now my reflexes are not back yet. I just started, you know, two weeks ago. He says, oh, that's okay. I say, oh, no, I'm not saying that for you. For me, I'm saying that for you.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Because normally when I give you a head kick and I see that you're not blocking, I can redirect a hat kick and I'm not going to hit you. But now I don't have that reflex. It's been a long time ago. So let me get into it. He said, no, I don't mind. I said, okay, then it's good.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Then we'll fight. I said, and don't throw that crazy overhand that you have. That's what I told him. And the first point she threw was the crazy overhand, right in my neck. So I stopped and I looked at him I said, okay, you know, you do that again I'm going to hurt your hand.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And he started laughing and we started boxing and sure enough he threw it again. The only thing I did was lean over. He hit the top of my head. He was on the ground. And that was with a boxing glove. He goes, oh my God! I said, I told you, I'm going to hurt your hand.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And that's why I has a bouncer also. You know, when I was a bouncer and guys they talked to you, yeah, yeah. And they, you know, they turn away. You know they're going to sucker punch. That was the moment I was waiting for because if they turn away, if I see one movement,
Starting point is 00:10:57 only thing I would do is lean over. because they hit the top of your head and they're not gonna break the top of your head oh no no no no the bones in the hand much tinier than the thick skull let's go yeah every time over around you i learned something like i'm just fucking like i'm just fucking blown away right now i shouldn't have smoked that pot you're freaking me out i didn't know this more intense and another great thing about this is distance i always talk about distance like we're boxers right if you if you squeeze the whole time you can't box right because you're draining yourself so what happens you make a fist at the end of your punch that's where you start
Starting point is 00:11:29 squeezing, right? The last, let's say, this space, you start squeezing the hand. With this, if you lean over, so if the target is here and you want to hit it, but the head is still relaxia, and suddenly I lean over, I'm closing the distance. So not only you're going to hit my head full power the top of my head, but your hand is not fully squeezed yet because you do that only at the end of your punch. So if I suddenly meet your fist halfway down by bringing my head forward, yeah, you're going to snap your hand for sure. And what about the jaw? Like, is it? it only at top of the head? No, no, no, no, you're the jaw.
Starting point is 00:12:01 That's good. You know, you can hit the jaw. Of course, yeah. But then people go, like, but you can break the jaw. Yeah, okay. I believe so that it can break easier. I do believe that because it will be bone-on-bone. Come on, guys, have an M-M-A glove? And what about this? What tie-boxing?
Starting point is 00:12:15 You can shin kick somebody in the face. You can knee him in the face. You can elbow him in the face. They're all unprotected. Much harder weapons than a punch, right? A knee, a foot. I mean, it's longer on its way to travel. It's a heavier object.
Starting point is 00:12:28 and it has more time to develop speed and power, and that's why it's way more. So shin kick from crow cop in the face, and you think that's healthy, right? And now you're talking about a little tender hand that's going to hit the skull. Come on, guys. You know, the smart guys,
Starting point is 00:12:41 they hit 40, 50% to the head. You're allowed to knee somewhere in the face? No, no, no, no. But I'm saying... Well, not in yours, but in other sports that are like to meet. In the MMA, you can do that. In the face? I've never seen that.
Starting point is 00:12:51 No, I have a really great knockout that I can show you that I drilled somebody's knee in the face. Oh, God. Literally grab him by the head. and then I need him as hard as I could in the face. You see, but that's an unprotected knee. You know, so people, that's allowed. A foot, a shin, a knee, and an elbow is allowed,
Starting point is 00:13:08 but suddenly a hand is not allowed. You see, so if you start breaking it down, you're going to realize, hey, actually, he is right. And what I always say, don't believe me, just Google it, you know. I can say, of course, because I'm the president of the company, people are going to go, yeah, of course he says that. Google it. See it yourself.
Starting point is 00:13:24 This CT has become a big topic. Yeah. I saw this thing that I've been made junkie about opioids in the UFC already. Oh, it's so bad. It's everywhere. And I started thinking about the NFL, how, you know, for years you're a player. You got to do what you've got to do. You're getting $6 million a year. And every year there's a new college, All-American, that's coming out, that's challenging your job.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yep. And you play hurt, and you shoot pain, pills, and you shoot pain fucking solvents. Yep. you know then you see these guys years later and they can't walk girl Campbell yeah you crumble your liver you crumble everything is the worst stuff you know we know we notice you know
Starting point is 00:14:06 I had an uh after my last fight all my injuries that I retired for in the very first place I didn't fight for seven years I thought I was completely in the clear everything went perfect I felt like a maniac I mean literally in a month I was everybody was telling me that I was starting to do it you got a new career this is insane I mean you're flying
Starting point is 00:14:23 through everything I say this wild right and then boom your first injury came back and that came back, and that came back, and that came back, and then some. You know, so I thought, I couldn't kick higher than low kicks because people said, because I stopped the guy with low kicks. They said, why didn't kick him in the head? I couldn't kick higher than low kick because I tore my groin. You know, I had a rip out.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I had my knees that were completely shot. I mean, everything that went wrong. I had 10 and night is in both arms. I could only shadow box. I couldn't even hit a bag anymore with my arms. I was in so much pain. So what starts, it started there with a simple norco. I remember taking one and a half Norco on the day of the fight at 10 a.m.
Starting point is 00:14:56 in the morning because it said, you know, at least 10, eight hours you don't have to take anything because it can affect you mentally. And I figured, you know, my fight's going to be around 9 o'clock. You know, I'm the main event. Not the co-main, actually, I thought it was. And then it's out of my system, you know. But, you know, I remember the next day, taken again, and after the fight, you know, you were in pain and slowly. And then I remember a time that I wrote a 9, the number 9 with a pencil, you know, my wife uses of makeup. I put it on the on the mirror. I remember putting on the left corner the number 9 because I took nine pills a day and I was not going to pass nine pills a day.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Well, those nine pills a day became 12 pills at the same in one time, four times a day, five times a day. So now I'm taking 48 pills a day. Now the doctor says, dude, this is so bad for you. It's all the Tylenol you're taking because, okay, there's less Tylenol than in a vicaratin, but it's still really bad. You're going to have to switch to oxycanton.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Okay, doc, you know, idiot that I am. And then it's an oxycontin. An oxycanon is just, that's pharmaceutical heroin. You know, and then you realize, and I had this problem that I went to, I believe it was Ohio or something, and I measured every old pill out, and I had a five-hour delay.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I ran out of pills. And let me tell you, that's when I realized I'm addicted. You know, I was on the plane shaking, I couldn't eat, swanning cold sweats, goose bumps all over the place, and I go, I got to kick this stuff, and then I start kicking it.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Then I did it the wrong way, because of the wrong way, I did it with Suboxone, and Suboxone is kind of the, the Bridgman's methadone, right, that you get from the doctor. But what you should do, officially you should build that off for you can use it two weeks and after two weeks you should
Starting point is 00:16:29 stop that my doctor said no no it's good it still works for the pain and you only can take less so if you start with a whole pill you can literally go to two quarters you can go to a half you can actually build off instead of going up all the time with the pain pill so i figured you know i believe the doctor and i do that but then i was on for that for three years and you should google what happens to people who are on that for three years because once i start uh hearing i heard dr oz dr drew was talking about it on the radio and I go what and then I start googling it finally after three years I start googling what I'm taking the idiot you know and it's so bad it got in my bones it took me 11 days to kick that so you're supposed to take it for two weeks for two weeks because if you
Starting point is 00:17:09 win it over two weeks you don't have any side effects and took it for three years I did it for three years so it gets into your bones and it gets the double vision sweating heart rate is like 95 in bed you can't pee you can't go to the restroom you can't I mean I wrote a whole list of the side effects that it had and I said, I gotta stop this crap. So then finally I stopped it. I tried gold turkey, didn't work, you know, because my daughter, I was five days in, I was like freaking out. It's really hard.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Like people say that it's way harder to kick that actually oxycontin by itself. It's way harder to kick the suboxone. So then my daughter had a party that weekend and I said, okay, I'm gonna have to take it again. I mean, otherwise, there's no way I can help you to my wife. We had 70 kids coming. So I took it again, felt good right away again. And then I said, okay, now I'm gonna smart.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I'm going to build it down. Literally go to a quarter, to a third from that quarter, and slowly but slowly down. Then once every day, a little tiny crumb under your tongue. And then slowly, okay, then I stopped. And then 11 days.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Those 11 days, dude, hell. You know what my testosterone level was? They've never seen anything. It was five. So not 500. It's one, two, three, four, five. The doctor showed it to another doctor, and they're both freaking out.
Starting point is 00:18:22 They say, how can you come out of bed? how do you get out of bed? I said, I'm really, I don't want to go out of bed, but I have to. I just force myself, drink a coffee, and once I'm going, I'm going. He says, dude, women have 60. You have five. You know, people don't go to work anymore. They stay in bed.
Starting point is 00:18:39 It's amazing that you still come out of bed. How's your sex drive? I said, that's gone, you know? And that's the moment that I stopped doing all that crap. And once that comes back, oh, man, you're like freaking superman. No, like the, I explained it like the bad guy. You know Michael Shannon who played the bad guy from Krypton, right? He came here and he took his helmet off
Starting point is 00:18:59 and then hear everything, all the people, all the sounds you heard because he was not used to that. That's exactly when he came over that stuff. Like shades, I had to wear everything. This would be way too bright light for my... I mean, I was crazy. Your senses are so out of control because they're not stomped away anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:16 So what's the name of that? Suboxone. So how does it compare to like methadone? It's the same stuff, you know? Oh yeah, it's just... Oh, yeah, then you're in a bad name. Yeah. So it's just what they call the rich...
Starting point is 00:19:26 That's how I heard on Dr. Dewey says, the rich man's methadone. And I go, what did he say? And then I came home and started Googling. That's when I realized I should have stopped in it with two weeks. So, yeah, I have so many people who email me and I have a whole piece now written out that I literally can copy and paste because you do that five times, you go like, I should save this because more people are going to ask me the same question.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So now I have it all written out that I only have to copy and paste. And right away, if somebody has... a problem and now now fortunately we have a CBD right if you use good CBD with a little tiny bit like 0.3% or 0.5% THC it really helps you to calm down like a pain pill if you take three pain pills a day let's say if you take CBD you only have to take one because it will enhance it so it's an easier way to build up a lot of these facilities where you can detox are actually using CBD right now to bring it down marijuana as well by the way it's funny because CBD does me down. Yeah. Somebody told me if you take an edible and I take it in
Starting point is 00:20:25 central control, I have emergency CBD in my draw. Like in case you take an edible or something, the CBD calms you down. Oh really? I know at night for a fact that the nights that I put CBD under my tongue takes about an hour. Yeah. But I'll fall asleep really good. It's nice and relaxed. It takes about an hour. You don't get high. I get the 1%. You know what I do, I eat something. I take the CBD. I wait 10 minutes and just eat one or two slices of bread and then it will go into your system right away. It's a better way of doing it
Starting point is 00:20:57 because sometimes an edible can show up two hours later, right? But if you eat with it like 10 minutes later, it'll pretty much within 10, 50 minutes, it's on. Yeah, I don't eat edibles no more, but I like the CBD without it. They say you have to have a little bit of THC. To activate it. To activate it for it to take it to where the pain is and stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:17 So I get a small percentage now because I think it was starting to get. get me sick, the edibles. Oh, I believe it. I can do edibles. If I do edibles, you know, it affects me the next day. You know, I literally use, but people don't believe it. I buy a cream, a vapean.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I can literally do two and a half or three months with that. People go, there's no way. I literally go, about four seconds. I put it, not even until it starts blinking, and I'm gone. And I'd only do it once a day. But if I would do during the day, if I'm at a party or something,
Starting point is 00:21:48 and I don't want to drink, and I take a little zip, just not to drink, and then at night I want to go to sleep, I need more. But if I don't do that, only one, I only need one time a day, like three or four second drag. That's it.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And I sleep perfect. I'm feeling great. No headache, no nothing. It's the best. All the pain is gone. It's really an amazing product. You don't smoke weed no more. No, I do.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I do a night also. Like, I take the flour. I do that. But also, very little amounts I do. For me, I only want to calm down and I tell myself, you don't need to go go out of control
Starting point is 00:22:23 just calm yourself down and feel my legs my legs I have this great feeling and some of my friends have it too but most have not like it starts glowing and it's literally when I and it's such a good feeling
Starting point is 00:22:33 like my legs hurt a lot but at night and I only do it once I'm in bed so you won't see me walking around the house and no I lay in bed that's when I take my little zip I lay down and literally I think 25 minutes I'm out
Starting point is 00:22:45 feeling great I never forget years ago this had to be 10 11 years ago when people were talking about the benefits of marijuana I got a toothache over the holidays I needed a root canal over the holidays and nobody was open and I didn't have viking you know I was taking pain pills whatever the fuck at Advil and one night the pain woke me up and I go let me see if this marijuana shit works and I smoked a bunch of pot I smoked a joint like three in the morning you're sold and it was so weird that I
Starting point is 00:23:20 I got so high and I started writing that I forgot about the pain. Yep. And I said, this really works. And now my wife is on the fence. After 18 years of being with her, she went to a kids party Saturday night at the martial art school. Yeah. She took mercy to watch a movie over there.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And the owner and the wife and a bunch of the moms went outside and went to smoke. And that the crazy, she told me, she goes, you know, the guy. smokes and I go come on that guy's fucking straight as an hour she goes no he Bruce Lee smoked man he was having pain and he got off the pain pills and started smoking blunts and his pain went away so he's been smoking blunts at night and I thought and so my wife is considering at night after mercy falls asleep listen listen we know this you know and your listeners probably notice as well it's just labeled a drug because of alcohol came out at the time before
Starting point is 00:24:20 The government labeled it as a drug. It has always been medicine. I have a priest that I know. I'm a Catholic. And he said, no, absolutely. You can use it. If you use it for your pain, yeah. If you're all day long, start smoking, lay on bed.
Starting point is 00:24:32 You don't do anything non-productive. Yeah, you just don't live a productive life. They wouldn't be okay with that. But God invented that plant for a reason. And it is to help people. But just the government, they realized, wait a minute, we've got alcohol now. We can tax that. It's very hard to text the weed, though, because people can grow themselves.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Oh, let's make it a drug. and they labeled it a drug and boom it's funny on the website now on the government all the things like gateway drug and all that stuff that they wrote they all have that's all off now because now the truth came out now they have to literally take that off because it's not true you want to hear the gateway drug alcohol alcohol is the gateway drug i know that all the crap all the real bad stuff i did you know and it's not never to other people but to myself right it starts with alcohol because that lowers your level you go oh yeah that's actually a smarter thing to do I can do it right now, which would so whatever do. We should do a survey. What did you do first? Smoke a joint or drink a bottle of Boone's Farm. And I guarantee it 70-30. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:30 70-30, because that's what I did. I drank Boons Farm first. But I knew at the age of 3, 4, 5, I didn't like drinking. I drank a bottle of red wine when I was 3. At the age of 3.5. My mom owned a bar. So to put me to sleep,
Starting point is 00:25:47 she dipped my fucking pacifier in Blackberry Brandy. Oh, in Holland, they had that with a sugar cube. My mother was a savage when I was a kid. Yeah, in Holland they put a little like that on a sugar coop, and they gave it to the kid to go to sleep. So one day I saw I fucking, I saw her drinking this red wine, Italian, and she put it on top of the refrigerator. And I don't remember this.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I waited for her to go to sleep, and I drank a bottle of wine like Vito Corleone. She woke up three hours later. I was missing. She called the cops. The cops found me in the closet, shit, diarrhea, puke. Oh, yay. And I never drank again.
Starting point is 00:26:22 So drinking was not on my agenda. When I was like seven, I saw all these kids smoking. One that I borrowed a now, cigarette. Do you remember years ago, there was cigarettes called Now? Now. They came red, green, and whatever. I remember I took two hits of it. And in the bathroom in my house, there was like an ironing board in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And one of those things that you scrub with. Yeah, yeah. And I remember that it took. I was making believe I was shit. And my mother was in the kitchen. and here I am smoking the cigarette, the bathroom like at 7. And I took two weeks of the cigarette, and I started getting dizzy as fucked.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Oh, yeah. And I put the cigarette on top of a piece of wood, and I left it there. Oh, yay. And she's like, who the fuck was smoking? I have no idea. I'm puking and shit. So I was away from all that.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Yeah. But the first thing I did, even though I was exposed to marijuana, was drink. Yeah. I drank for a wine. I didn't agree with me. Yeah, no, I have to, Drinking is, you know, always I'm a happy guy if I drink,
Starting point is 00:27:22 so at least I have that and I want to have fun with everybody, but it's just, you know, being drunk, running around the house, it's just not a good thing. And that, thankfully, I got out of my system really fast. Well, really fast. Well, people know all the stories, right? There's been a lot of crazy stories. But, you know, that was drinking.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Fighting keeps you in line. That's the great thing about fighting, you know? You do after a fight, you go two, three days crazy, and then you have to train again for the next fight. I mean, I fought in Japan from 93, let's say, to 97, four years. I fought at 30 fights. That's a lot of fights, you know. You fight first year, I fought eight.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Seven or eight? Oh, yeah, no, I fought the first year of nine fights, I think. You know, I had a really high schedule. And that was MMA. That was MMA. But at least it was in Pancras, you know, so we had to shoes with the shin protection in the open hand to the face and close fist to the body, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:12 But, you know, it was just a great way for me to keep myself in check. It's very hard also from the fighters when they stop fighting because you don't have that high anymore. Like if you knock somebody out, you know, it's like a hole in one, you know, for golf, I assume. You know, you're there, people go nuts. It's a feeling that you start really enjoying. And if that's suddenly being taken away, you start trying to replace that with something. And most of the time with fighters, there's drugs or booze. You know, like Pat Millert is just very smart about it.
Starting point is 00:28:41 He just picked another crazy thing up. He's chasing tornadoes. He says, because I don't. if I don't do not do that it's probably going to be drinking or something like that you know so he uses that to get that same high back you know with me at the time I was drinking
Starting point is 00:28:55 that's why actually I took the last fight in 2006 because I was drinking pretty heavy and I looked at my wife and say you know what I'm going to take the fight because if I take the fight I can't drink anymore I quit drinking so that's what I did and from that moment and it was all good now I don't you know
Starting point is 00:29:11 I got a little out of hand like a couple of weeks ago and that was the first time I think I was drunk in over a year. You know, my boss, Rootin. Every once in a while, my wife goes to bed. I don't even tell Lee. I don't even tell nobody. But now you're telling it on the radio.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Oh, yeah, my wife goes to bed some nights at 10 to 9. And I can't go to bed at 10 to 9. I just can't. I just can't. No, no, that's who I am. I get 10. It's a nightmare. I'll be up at 4.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'll get high and make a meal. And then I'm back sleeping at 6. and I'll mix kickboxing. I won't wake up to 11. It'll ruin my whole fucking day. So some nights, I'll have those, they give me 30 of those anxiety pills.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And I'll take them to the comedy store and I'll put them in my gene pocket. And if I sit in the back, I'm high and I start getting a little of anxiety, I pop it before I go on stage. That's my thing. I get really bad anxiety when I go to the comedy store. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:30:13 It's my whole. Yeah, so, wait. So as I'm walking up the stairs, I look, I make sure I see oxygen. Like, I have to see an opening. Yeah. Those days, like, I don't know. I don't freak out on planes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And I've gone on planes on 2,000 edibles at T.A. Oh, yeah. Like, in the third hour, you're just fucking stoned. Like, I've never freaked out. But I've never freaked out. Like, I keep it under control. but there's some nights I come home I take that anxiety pill at the comedy store
Starting point is 00:30:49 and it's a faggy anxiety pill because when my friends give me the Xanax sticks I ask them compared to that and they're like it's six of those like six of those little ones is one of those old Zanichia so I pop one of those and some nights I get home
Starting point is 00:31:06 and I don't really feel the anxiety pill but ooh I drink a half a hyanagan oh yeah then it goes and I hit that pipe one time and I sit at the desk when I put on beautiful ones by Prince and I just go down the fucking foxhole of debt and I still remember one night
Starting point is 00:31:22 I drank the whole beer like one shot like I thought it was Johnny Bananas and I drank the whole beer and I'll never forget that I had to walk into the bedroom feeling the wall like that's how drunk I get
Starting point is 00:31:36 like I get fucking lit from one drink a couple weeks ago I'm JetBlue I thought it was Johnny Bananas and Matt And I got the red wine And the mint got off
Starting point is 00:31:47 Oh yeah I just Red wine is very good for you I know but I've never I've never I've never seen you drink wine I'm 55 is it I've been drinking more red wine lately
Starting point is 00:31:55 Oh my God No no no And it's not fancy No this was the first red wine I've had Maybe a year Do you spin it and smell it And no I just went on the menu And mint and mint
Starting point is 00:32:06 They have a certain red wine Yeah it's nice And I drank the red wine It's probably good Fucking passed out That is so Like I fucking passed out for an hour. But I don't like drinking on a plane because it dehydrates you.
Starting point is 00:32:20 And if I worked out Saturday and I fly Sunday, now I'm going to be really sore. Yep. So I usually drink on the way outbound. I usually drink outbound. Like I'll drink, but not all the time. Not at all. And I fly mint as much as I can. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:35 As much as I can. I mean, I just went to West Palm Beach, but they fly the Fort Lauderdale Mint. Got it. I'm going to New York Wednesday. Got it. Got it. To Kennedy. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I'm addicted. We went to Boston. Got it. Oh, it's nice. Oh, I love Mint. That there's nothing like... It's the best. I get that single seat and I live like a fucking doctor in there.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah. You could jerk off. You know that if you wanted to... Well, I heard it in the hangover is frowned upon, right, if you do that. What's that? In the hangover, when you said... I was sitting at the plane is frowned upon, which you can do it, he said. The one day I was sitting, I'm thinking, right now I can bang one up.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And nobody would know. It was like five in the morning. I got on there. And so my hot chick, and I felt like asking the, like, I went back to my cocaine days. Like, I would fly on Coke, and I'd get freaky on. I'd just sit next to a bitch, and how are you doing? Yeah, dry mouth. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:33:26 It's like squeezing. You got to remember. I was flying from the 80s. Oh, yeah. You know, in the 80s to now, flying has changed dramatically. In the 80s, it was more of a party. Yeah. People got on a plane, the back of the plane.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Get smoke. So everybody who sat in the back was boozing big. making noises, buy them a drink. I used to go down planes where I was part of a group. All of a sudden was part of a group. We needed a virgin at that time. Remember they have their own bar virgin, you know, in first class? You should have had that at that time.
Starting point is 00:33:57 They had it? When I was a kid, United had a bar in the middle of the plane. Like if you weren't coach, instead of that shitty bathroom, they had a bar with a bartender. And a big bowl of a quailoutes. No, no, no, no. And first class was stairs upstairs. First class was upstairs.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was an airline that went from Newark to L.A. and Newark to England. And the Newark to England fly they know for a fact, they had a pig with an apple on its mouth in first class. No way. And a guy would put on the piano. This is real shit.
Starting point is 00:34:36 This is the old school flying. But I went on a plane in 87. Cigars. In 87. 186, I would go back east and I would pick up coke and bring it back to Colorado. And I would be fucked up, that boss room. And one day I went up to the middle, I did my bump. They'd like, peep, you can walk around the plane.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I shot right to the bartender. I went in that middle bathroom. I did a tremendous blast. I come out of the bathroom. I got the neck twitch the whole thing. And at those days, I used to drink gin and tonic. What a shot of do was. I was gone.
Starting point is 00:35:13 87 that's how I opened up and give me a beer and keep them I would be there are families on these flights too kids everybody you didn't give a fuck they knew not to sit in the back that's what drugs do to you the back of the plane was drug dominated people smoking cigarettes I can't imagine
Starting point is 00:35:29 leave people drinking you could see who was flying to Vegas with a hooker oh she had her tits out flying was completely different when I flew to San Francisco I banged my wife right in the aisle what yeah I gave her a staff and dick on honeymoon night we were in those days slides weren't blind planes were packed do you put like a towel a blanket over you nothing she had a garter belt I picked her up gave it to her right in the middle like a savage man here we're stepping down like a
Starting point is 00:35:59 pinball machine you know what I'm saying oh yeah I go up to the middle of this bar I'm coked out to the gillard they got the bartenders got like a black towel like it's like a velvet thing and he says to me what can i get you the pieces fell out oh coke rock fell the blank thing fell and me and him both looked at it and i never figured i looked at him and i looked at the top of the plane like the chip had painted all yeah i don't know what's going on with that i just wiped it all he knew i was you just took it and go and i no i didn't know i may believe like i didn't know what it was yeah yeah you looked at something that came down yeah it was it was just It was great.
Starting point is 00:36:45 It's a different time. Were planes being landed early all the time and people arrested for being drunk and stuff? No. No, listen. Like now people would go insane. In 1984, in the heat of cocaine, an airline called People's Express
Starting point is 00:37:00 decided that they were going to do something that nobody else was going to do. They were going to schedule a flight every hour on the hour from Newark for $49, but after midnight it was $29. That means that me and Boss Routin could be in New York City at a bar.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Talking shit as crazy as me and Boss Routen. We're talking shit. And Boss would say to me, I got a cousin in Miami that gets ounces for 800. And I would look at bars and say, boss, I got a lemon in my pocket. What do you got, boss? I got four.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Let's go to Miami and see your cousin. Call them up. And boss would go to the pay phone, put $3 a quarters in. Because in those days, you put a quarter in, dial the number, and then the quarter would come back out and she'd say $2.85 and then you had to put orders in. 35 more cents, please.
Starting point is 00:37:49 35 more cents please. Shut up. 35 more cents please. Banking! And all of a sudden, she shut the fuck up. And your phone call would go through and you would call and your cousin picked up. I'm home. Can you pick up that ounce?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Sure. Well, when are you coming? Tomorrow, Tuesday? Right now. I'm there in four hours. I'm there for an hour. They didn't have, you didn't have to call people's express. You just showed up.
Starting point is 00:38:10 and if they had room for you on the plane you got on and I'll never forget going down there one Friday night at like 4 in the morning and if there was 180 people on that plane I swear to God Bostroo and 160 people were going to Oh I believe it
Starting point is 00:38:25 And we all got on that plane and it just Everybody was joined because that was the thing It was like going to Atlantic City It was an hour away Yeah What are you doing tomorrow? I have to meet my mother fuck Come on
Starting point is 00:38:38 We'll go to Miami. 2995. Yeah, 2995, one way. Same price coming back? Yeah. And, you know, if you come the same day back, you don't have a jet lag, nothing is bothering you.
Starting point is 00:38:50 You can go, oops. It's actually a really great idea. This was a long, and they did L.A. They did Newark to L.A. for $69, $79, and they did Newark to England. They banged you out on the plane.
Starting point is 00:39:06 They charged you for the pillow. You got banged. for the meal you want soda or that's the dollar 50 that's how they got you of their spirit okay they have but you pay with a credit card on the plane yeah that's where i came at i'd go on there with somebody's credit card i didn't even know the person i'd go see joe the baker up in the bronx for a nickel credit card and i'd just go on there or a nickel credit card yeah they would know to you were gone how much would those costs they didn't have no computer in those days yeah yeah so they put on a pad so i'd be in there you want to drink come and drink come and drink come
Starting point is 00:39:38 All the drink. Give them the whole hour drink. I'm sparking cigarettes, telling me the mafia. Yeah. And also the check comes, they would charge you the $49 for the flight. And then anything else you took, the blanket, three beers, six sodas, the luncheonette kit, which was like three pieces of cheese, salami, and they would bang you out. And then by the time you got off the plane, you owed $300. You should have flown American.
Starting point is 00:40:05 You know what I'm saying? You could have taken an American for two separate. 99 first class. Yeah, but you had a good time. But you had a good time. Yeah, and it's no stress, no nothing. Nowadays, that's completely different, right? No, there's no.
Starting point is 00:40:16 They watch you on a plane now like a fucking hawk. Yeah. I don't see people having a good time on a plane. Coach is like you're flying to Auschwitz. Look at Coach. When you get up in Mint, look at Coach. It's like they're flying to Auschwitz. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Nobody's smiling. Everybody's got their head down, looking at something stupid. That plane can crash. Nobody's smiling. Nobody's in the aisle laughing. And one tries to defer to deferral. because they tried to go to the restroom to get sent back to get sent back how bad is that
Starting point is 00:40:43 oh my god just let him take a feed no no no your your restroom is there in the back i used to make i used to before i flew in those days i would take notebooks notebook paper and i would make bindles and i'd put like a quarter gram in like six or seven bindles and i'd eventually do three of them but they were tips for the airline people in those days i would give cocaine out like a tip every time you can't use that better what do you mean oh go ahead guys guys I put a quarter gram in their pocket That's a quarter gram when you land To get you the way you need to go
Starting point is 00:41:14 To pick it up to the fucking load That's a diamond in the rough I used to, every time I got Coke And I had like an ounce I'd make like six or seven little bindles To get away like fucking Bob-O It's amazing you didn't get arrested No nobody arrested you
Starting point is 00:41:28 You know who was doing well They were looking for knives and guns Yeah, they don't look for drugs Nobody's tipping people with cocaine When you put a bindle in somebody's hand They gave you like a look Like how do you know Like, how the fuck do you know?
Starting point is 00:41:40 It's quick. Everybody was doing it. Yeah. If I looked at you and you went, I knew you were out the night before. So right off the bat, I'll never forget, look at that, I'll never forget being at a bar. And the cops got surrounded, like, we were in there fucking around, and they were looking for us. That was the day we threw a guy in a snowbank. And the cops came, and I'll never forget walking past the cops.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Like, I remember having, like, maybe like an eight ball on me and telling my baby, They were up, give me a dollar bill, and putting like $50 worth of Coke on a dollar bill. And when I walked out, the cops are yelling at me, get against the wall. But you're my friend, and you're a cop. And if I could get to him with, if I had to get to you with this 20 in my hand, because this was the juice that would make me get through. And I'll never forget, the cops going, you turn against the wall. And as I go, hey, and all of a sudden, he just took me and go, he's all right.
Starting point is 00:42:31 He's my nephew. That guy's three go. Everybody knew. That was a tipping. You know, Bitcoin? Yeah. Yeah, that was my Bitcoin. That was my Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:42:42 That was my Bitcoin. Co-coin. You put a 20 in a bundle for somebody. You made their fucking day, dog. Wow. You made their day. Anytime I got a little bit of a shipment, anything, like an ounce or something, I'd always give it a couple packages. And people would all...
Starting point is 00:42:55 I had a guy, Alki, guy that sold sneakers at Levy's sporting goods. I had every pair of sneakers when I was a kid. I would walk in there five with... to rock the size of your head and give it to him. He'd been drinking doubles all day. He was one of those guys that got to the sporting goods at 10. And the whole day he'd be sipping fucking, I forget what his laying is. God bless him so he died years ago.
Starting point is 00:43:18 He was like 50 at the time in 1982. I would drop a gram off on him and go back hours later and he'd be taking care of customers all fucked up. All fucked up. Yeah. Like his jaw would be going. It was hilarious. Dremont are so funny, you can't tell.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah, I tipped so many people with cocaine those days, Lee, it was funny. People loved it. When you gave somebody a little rocket coke, or I would get the bottles and take half of it out and leave half of it in there. It was just like three-tenths of a gram. You give that to somebody with a little spoon on it. They'll suck your dick.
Starting point is 00:43:54 They said actors, it was just common that they went to their trailer and there would be coke for them, for the actors, right? Like the movie company would literally just arrange that there is coke. If you hear the stories from the 70s for these people, all these actors,
Starting point is 00:44:09 what they were doing, it's insanity. I heard in Miami that they were doing it at restaurants. I could look in the face and light and tell you, I never saw that in my life.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I saw it in 84 years later in New York City at clubs. It was wide open. So we were at the comedy store and we were in the main room, we'd be in a booth.
Starting point is 00:44:33 There would be a mirror somewhere with Coke on it in that booth and nobody was accepted that was it but it's a club it's a dance club you know what I'm saying it's people dancing or everybody knew to go to the ladies bathroom and snorting there
Starting point is 00:44:47 but I never went to a restaurant where they I heard stories where the wait staff would bring it for you I never saw that I never saw that either yeah it was crazy times though and you started doing drugs in Holland in Holland yeah all the way back that's crazy everybody goes to
Starting point is 00:45:04 all the way out there. Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, I think a lot of these guys, you go through it, you know, and then, you know, I think that the way we did it, if you do it when you're young, and then, you know, you realize, okay, you find out it's not good. It's always better. I say that I have friends of mine, and I knew some guys who didn't do anything until they were 45
Starting point is 00:45:24 and then drinking a glass of wine or something suddenly, and they really enjoy it. And since they never had the bad experience, boom, they're hooked to it. And it's the same with Coke or pain pills or whatever it is. they would then they would get addicted I said we're at an age we did everything but it's past we know it's not going to go anywhere you know you're standing a little bit stronger in your feet that's what I think you know I think it's okay to experiment there's some things I never did like acid I would never do I would read you know I had some good oh yeah but I'm afraid I'm the guy who the worm stuck growing out of his arms and I'm going to stab him out with a knife you know
Starting point is 00:45:57 like I think I'm going to fly I can fly by the way I never got that you know why don't they try it out first on the spot if they can fly, you know, and then jump off the building, right? Yeah, you go like, let me say, no, it's not working. Maybe I shouldn't do this because it's not working, you know, but yeah, though crazy times, crazy times. It was just, but with me, normally it was pretty much for a long time alcohol. That was my choice of thing.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Never weed, because in Holland, yeah, it's always been legal to my knowledge when I was there, but it slowed me down. And I'm always this upper kind of guy. That's why I'm only doing it, you know, to go to sleep. Or if I go to a party and there's a lot of drinking going on and I want to eat and I say, I'll take a little zip and then I'm feeling perfect. I'm nice and relaxed. I can still formulate sentences because if I'm stoned, I can't.
Starting point is 00:46:44 That's why I don't want to do it during the day. And it affects my memory, you know, so if you have to memorize pieces and things like that, there's no way I can do it. I have a lot of friends of mine who excel when they use it. They actually get better and they can memorize better and they do everything better. With me, it's the opposite. So that's, you know, for me, it's good that it happened like that. that because it keeps me in line, so to say.
Starting point is 00:47:04 For me, I cannot think of myself not smoking. It is the last of my teddy bears. Yep. Okay, everybody has a teddy bear. Yeah. It is the last thing from that life that I have left. I enjoy it. It calms me down.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I like getting high at night when I get back from the comedy store. We're different. Like, I have to buy two types of weed. Yeah. Like, I'll smoke this all day. But then at night when I get home, I'll smoke this. No, no, they're both into this. I'm an indica type of.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah, me too. I only had to go. So I'll smoke that at night to take that comedy edge off. Yeah. That won't keep you up until 2 in the morning. I get a notebook out. I put music on, and I'm writing as I'm listening to my set. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:51 You know what I'm saying? Just to slow me down. Yeah. Marijuana has always slowed me down. I would never, I don't want to do it out of all, or do I have any desire to do it. I don't ever want to speed up. I always wanted something to slow me down.
Starting point is 00:48:06 When I wake up in the morning, I have my cup of coffee, I look at my early morning emails, I talk to my daughter, I talk to my wife, and then there's a point in time where I know I have to eat. I have no appetite. So I go in the back and I zip-to-zipped, and boom, the appetite opens up. Now you could eat, I don't have to eat like a gorilla. I could eat two eggs and a piece of wheat toast, and I'm done. But that gets that appetite going.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I want that appetite in the morning Without that appetite, my blood sugar drops in the afternoon And I'll eat much later at night And now my hunger will triple So if I eat early Like I can't do intermittent fasting Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I gotta eat when I get up in the morning
Starting point is 00:48:47 Because if not, it catches up to me And I eat triple at night You know Well, that's a good thing to be there and that Like everything else If you would have kept on drinking You probably wouldn't have been here anymore If you kept doing all the other crap
Starting point is 00:49:00 probably wouldn't have been there anymore. It's literally weed that saved your life pretty much. I like it. It keeps me, listen, the thought of saying the word sober would drive me crazy. And it drives a lot of people crazy. That's why the volume of relapsing that there is. After relapsing several times, you realize I don't like the word sober. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And I don't like the word diet. Yeah. Those two words kill people. Yeah. Those two words kill people. I like the word lifestyle. Yeah. This is the lifestyle that I could lead.
Starting point is 00:49:38 You know what I'm saying? Like, if you look at it, it takes pressure off your mind without you thinking on it. I am not on a diet. I just have to acknowledge that I have to eat a little better. Yep. Yeah, you could go to fucking, what's the sandwich place? Jersey Mike's. Jersey Mikes.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And you could have a turkey and provolone. for six points. Yeah. You don't need the chips. Yep. You know, you can put mayonnaise on it. It's not going to kill you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:07 You just don't need the chips. Yeah. You just don't need the chips. And drink a Diet Coke because you're out. Yeah. But the rest of the time, it's water. You know, little things. It's a lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah. It's not a diet. Once you kill yourself with that word diet, you're done. I do not want you to be sober. I want you to be happy. Those are two different fucking words. Oh, just complain. If I need you for 90 days,
Starting point is 00:50:30 to walk around with a frown. Every time I drive past Lancashim, I see black people and I want to do crack. Listen, you're killing yourself to live. Yeah. Cut a deal with yourself. In 85, in 95, I cut a bad deal with myself. I cut a deal with myself,
Starting point is 00:50:46 but I was going to go all in on comedy. I was going to dedicate myself to comedy, but at the same time, I wasn't going to keep fighting this cocaine war. Yep. If I do it, I do it. No more doing it and beating myself up and lying to myself.
Starting point is 00:51:00 that this is the last time. Yeah, no, don't. Boss, I'm happy you're here. This is the last time. We're never going to do this shit. It's fucking poison then two hours later. I heard that broken record. Yeah, but then you hit yourself on the face.
Starting point is 00:51:13 You're breaking your problem with the whole time. It was a broken record for myself to other people. So I said, forget it. I'm accepting this problem that I have. I accept it. I don't want to go overboard. I knew that I could get one package and go to bed at night and jerk off
Starting point is 00:51:28 until I passed out and maybe do a zan. I was hit with that. You know, I really was. I was very, because I knew if I looked at it, like I'm trying to get sober, I would have never done. It's not going to work. It's not going to work. And I think that's, I hate the word sober,
Starting point is 00:51:44 and I hate the word diet. Yeah, that's what it did to me, so you don't drink anymore. Diet, porches you. You know what? When I go to eat breakfast, just don't get the potatoes. Yeah. Eat the bread, put a little tiny butter on the bread.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Eat the two eggs and eat two pieces of bacon. Just don't eat the potatoes. You see, I ate an enormous amount of potatoes like doing the... I mean, I love them too. I'm taking... Yeah, but I blend them because I take so much with vegetables. I put it in a blender like a pan and I literally drink it. And the meat or the fish or whatever I make, that I bake and make really good for myself.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And the rest, this doesn't even have salt on it. I just drank it for pure nutrition and pure clean, everything clean. Like my first till like six o'clock at night, and even if my wife cooks, I'm still eating clean with her. But sometimes when you go out to dinner, that's when I eat the pizza or doing this. But normally during the day, I'm trying to live very clean now. You know, I notice that I'm a completely different person if I eat, correct. You know, if I eat the vegetables and I do that with the meat, I'm feeling like a maniac. You know, you also, when you get older, you start getting bloated and all that, when you eat too much bread and stuff
Starting point is 00:52:49 like that. It's such a BS. And as soon as you start switching to vegetables and you do just one, If you have a bloating feeling, just do one week. I used to make a big pan of vegetables, all vegetables in there and potatoes, everything, and I would eat the whole day, I would just eat that. You do it for one week, all your bloating is gone. Then you can eat bread here and there. But once you start eating bread three times a day again,
Starting point is 00:53:10 it will start again. You know what? Really help me? Because I tried it for my arm. You see this all, see it's all gone, the lower part because of the neck surgeries, it's atrophied here. So what they told me is BPC 157. It's a peptide.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And what it is, is officially it's a gut enzyme. And what they thought in the beginning, because if you had, for instance, you had cancer, they would see that all that BPC was around to cancer. So they thought, oh, it's causing the cancer. We have to watch out for it. But then they realized, no, no, no, no. It's actually, it's trying to get rid of the cancer. That's what it's doing, it's the gut enzyme.
Starting point is 00:53:39 So they figured out that it repairs everything in the body. So now you can get a peptide, which is legal. It's not even on the fighters can use this. And it will make you heal your tendons. Everything, it will heal faster. So I start trying that, and I put it right here in the biceps, to see if I can really reactivate my biceps with the muscles you know but it didn't work but what it did do was thinking complete I lost my the bloating I don't have it anymore and it's got to be the BPC
Starting point is 00:54:05 because that's literally gut enzyme and those are the enzymes that you do start losing when you get older and that's why you start bloating so it's a perfect little thing it's cheap it's legal where can you get it you know yeah I have an address for that because peptides online is a very dangerous thing because you a lot of the guys they just sell you powder right or it comes from China you have no clue I have have a company 99.9% pure 100%. So I'll send you that address. It works really well.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And you drink over water or something like that? No, no. What you do, it's you've got to shoot it. Shoot it? Yeah, like a little, how you call it, the diabetes needles? You know? Oh, geez. You take your right?
Starting point is 00:54:41 No, no, you just put it in the fat of your body, in your stomach. And or when you have an injury, you do it closest to the injury as possible. That's why I did it in the biceps. But then I realized, you know, I'm just going to do it here. You have to shoot yourself every day.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Yeah, but it's a little tiny. I'll stick with fucking yogurt. Oh, actually. Actually, you can put it also in your mouth. You pour it in with the needle so you know exactly how much you take with this little tiny bit and you put it under your tongue. You leave it there for 60 seconds.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I can't do no fucking needles possible. Yeah, I have friends like that too. I go to acupuncture. In fact, I've got to make an appointment for tomorrow. I force myself to go to acupuncture, but the needles for drugs, in fact, I held a doctor a blood test and the tetan shot,
Starting point is 00:55:19 and I've been avoiding them like, fucking an HIV victim in 85. Remember in 85 you wouldn't talk to people So they told you they had AIDS You would fucking run the other way And then they would sneeze in front of you You think you were getting it If you have an open wound
Starting point is 00:55:33 And you're close to them You know, there was all these crazy stories right Now you weren't Where were you in 85 when the whole AIDS scare broke In Holland And how bad was it now No, we only heard the stories from here in America You know that story
Starting point is 00:55:45 That they woke up in the morning And then the mirror was written Welcome to the World of Age You know you would have sex with the prostitute and she would be HIV positive and then she would ride on the mirror in the morning when she would leave welcome to the HIV club or something. That was this, you don't even hear that, heard about that?
Starting point is 00:56:04 Oh, you see, because that was apparently happening in America that they were doing. That was some weird thing that had been heard in Holland. But for the rest in Holland, yeah, I didn't really notice it. You heard a lot on the radio when people were afraid of it and they thought with blood, you can pass on with blood, or rubbing against each other, even with spit, they thought in the beginning, right?
Starting point is 00:56:20 Drinking from the same glass, all that stuff. Yeah, people get. paranoid you know but then you realize it's not you know still you know it's logic it's a it's a natural thing to do you know if I don't have to drink from the same bottle from somebody who's very sick I'm not going to do it it doesn't matter if it's eight
Starting point is 00:56:34 or if he's got a cold if he's got a cold I'm not going to drink from the same bottle is he because why would you take that risk because now you're going to get the cold so it works pretty much with everything but it was not as big as a scare we just heard the crazy horror stories from America that's wasn't on it well once
Starting point is 00:56:49 Rock Hudson went public Yeah, that was crazy. People started getting sick and stuff like that. I remember there was, like, people were fucking scared. Like, people were really scared. Like, that thing that's going on in Jersey with the kids, like where all the kids died in that hospital all of a sudden, there was like an epidemic, but HIV was out there.
Starting point is 00:57:08 But those first couple of years, I got, when I got locked up in 88, there was an HIV unit. Oh. And I became friends with one of the guys, and we talked, and he broke it down for me. I asked him. And then after that, I felt. fell safe and I hung on the HIV unit for nine months. I don't have HIV. Yeah. So they were right.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I hung on that unit. I used the same utensils they used. That scare, can you imagine if I would have done baroncle boxing in that time, people would have been really afraid. Because with biological boxing, of course, you're going to get cut, right? So there's going to be blot. CTE-wise, it's safer for you, but cutting, you know, that's, I think people would have freaked out. I think everybody needs to be tested 100% and still then you're going to freak out especially at that time when it was at the height that everybody
Starting point is 00:57:56 was scared of it. That fucking, I still can't get over that we're back to, everything makes a full circle. It does. We're back to fucking knuckle hitting each other in the heads with fucking our hands. How cool is that though? Think about it.
Starting point is 00:58:13 You know, we were talking about hard times. Johnny Hendricks, Brennan Ward. I mean, these guys are the main event. Johnny Hendricks, we all know he's got this crazy big left hand. But I bet you he's not going to throw it full power because he knows he understands the rules now. If Brennan Ward just leans in, like I said, and he hit the top of the head, he's going to break his hand.
Starting point is 00:58:33 If he didn't focus on his right hand, he's going to have a problem. You see, so now you're going to be more strategical. You're going to have to all the... They also hit all the meaty parts. They hit the forearms, the shoulders, you know, the body. They focus on that. And the power shots go 40, 50% to the head. because they you know yeah you're gonna get cut but that's it and by the way with the cutting we have plastic surgeons actually we hired instead of normal doctor we said no we're gonna pay a little bit more we have plastic surgeons so if you get cut which will probably will help happen you go to the bag and you have a plastic surgeon there who's gonna stitch you up is gonna make it a nice little cut and you know as well as I do one of the weight classes still the same same yeah 155 170 yeah and I think even with boxing the boxing weight classes right so they have even more weight class
Starting point is 00:59:18 So that's exactly the same. The tape, the hand, sorry, you have to tape minimum an inch behind your knuckles. So you can have any, cannot have any tape on the knuckles. But strategy-wise, you know, I think it's going to be a whole different ballgame, especially for the MMA fighters. Now also we have some professional boxers on there. So that's cool. Now we've got an M.
Starting point is 00:59:40 MFA fighter. Actually, Julian Lane, he is fighting a pro boxer. So now we can tell, because all the pro-boxers all the time say, oh, these MMA guys, we beat them up easy, you know, in boxing. Well, here's your chance. You know, sign up. WBKFF, sign a little note and say, hey, I want to fight on your organization.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I want to prove that boxing that we have better hands than the mixed martial arts. And we team you up with a mixed martial arts on the show. Yeah, but the mixed martial artist can't use his elbows or his kick. No, he can't. But still, you know, the thing with the mixed martial artist is that we have physically in a better shape. Listen, I'm not taking anything away from, I'm not saying anything.
Starting point is 01:00:19 these guys are phenomenal. I mean, you can go 12 rounds four. I'm not saying that. It's an unbelievable thing. But once you are used to kicking, once you're used to kicking and to grappling, and the grappling effect, that is what gets you really tired because every time when you crunch and when you protect the takedown, you're working your core. Once your core start pumping up, just like any other muscle in the body, well, guess what's behind your core? Your lungs. And they don't only pump up to the front, but of course they pump also inside. So now your lungs that normally go all the way in, you know, if the core starts pumping, you can't go breathe in all the way anymore
Starting point is 01:00:51 because it's getting tight in there, because of the muscles around it are getting tight. So, but once you are used to that as a mixed martial artist and suddenly, like for instance, if I say to, if I do tie pads, that's punching, kicking, elbows, knees, everything, right? Or I do, if I do seven rounds or five minutes of that, or I do boxing.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I can do 14 rounds of boxing five minutes. I'll just fly through that. if I'm in the shape that I can do seven rounds or five minutes in tie boxing with the kicks. That's how much the difference is with the shape. You just get really tight. That's what I always would say with boxers, even when you don't kick.
Starting point is 01:01:29 You know, while you're boxing on the back, on a heavy back, suddenly, like every 30 seconds, throw out 10 right kicks. Bang, bang, bang, as hard as you can. That breaks the breathing pattern. You get really tired, and then you continue boxing again. It gets you in a way better shape because what I realized is I didn't have anybody to train with in Holland. I had a bag.
Starting point is 01:01:46 My first year of pancreas, I pretty much trained on a bag, two times a day, 12 rounds on the back. That's what I did. 12 rounds or 3 minutes. Well, if you do that for 3, 4 months straight, you simply don't get tired anymore.
Starting point is 01:01:56 You need to find things that get you tired. For instance, sprawling in between. Every 10 seconds, defense, you sprawl, you get back up and you continue. It breaks the breathing pattern, the interruption, and that's why you're getting tired. Orn there's 10 right kicks and 10 left kicks
Starting point is 01:02:07 and then continue boxing again. But you've got to come up with something because your body is getting so used to it that you can't really get really tired anymore. So you have to start adding the kicks. And once you do that, you get tired again. But guess what? You get tired, you get used to that.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Then you start adding sprawls. And, you know, it's just that evolution. But if you take a guy who prepared himself for a five-round fight in mixed martial arts and you put him in a boxing event, he can go the entire distance. And don't go tell me now all these people are told him. Colonna McGregor. Colonna McGregor also gases out in M.M.A. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Gassed in the third round. But that's what I'm saying. So, so, yes. The third round. And there were three-minute rounds. Yeah. And you see, and he did eight rounds. started the gas and by five.
Starting point is 01:02:47 But eight rounds he did pretty good, seven rounds against Mayweather. You see? So that's what I'm saying. If he would have had great stamina at that time, he would have gone to distance. I truly believe he would have gone the distance with Mayweather, 10 rounds only, not 12. You know, and that would have been an, actually, I thought it was already incredible what he did. You know, he had a pretty good boxing match. I thought when he was boxing against Mayweather.
Starting point is 01:03:12 So, but that's the only thing. Build stamina. You can. You know, what we. do is like I have that workout right is the boss with the workouts an M and an audio workout it's really hard the number three workouts called the MMA that's with sprawls so that is when I go four you have a combination cross you cross who cross defense got a sprawl back up cross who cross who cross left hook right straight right right up got left hook right defense you got a sprawl every
Starting point is 01:03:32 time sprawl sprawl sprawl and they get you really tired I had guys coming into my gym we do five rounds of three minutes of that as a warm up with the sprawls these guys they cannot even do the five rounds and they were they will they will be fighting it to a three weeks later. And they said, how can you do this? I said, this is just a warm-up. We didn't even start the glass. But the thing is, we just start doing it. And once you start doing something, you do it every day, within months, it becomes normal. You can do it. Now, the minute break, we do kettlebell swings. We don't even take a break anymore. You know, there's kettlebell swings in a minute of a break. And then we go into the second round. Now we got a 20-minute, five rounds of three minutes
Starting point is 01:04:08 with the minute breaks, that's 19 minutes then, as a warm-up. And we had guys who had to fight two weeks later they could not do the warm-up that's a warm-up it's a warm and they go it's like what is this I say dude we didn't even start what do you do after that climb mountains backwards no but the spark you know my my concept has always been very simple I put myself I make myself tired in the beginning of the training and then the whole training I learn how to deal with my power with less power and still using technique because I'm you know I tired myself but once you start doing it like I said again for a couple of months it becomes normal and then suddenly you have to
Starting point is 01:04:42 do something else again to make it even more. Everything you can get used to. It's just putting the work in, as I tell people, you know. People, it's always, oh, I can never do that. No, you want to lose 30 or 40 pounds? Yeah. Okay, give yourself half a year. Yeah, it's a long time. Half a year is nothing. In a lifetime, it's a blink and it's gone. But if you have a race and you want to do it in two and a half months, now you're really going to force it and then everything goes down to drain with the diet you're already talking about or you cannot eat this. Don't tell yourself you cannot. Cannot. I'm 100% with you. You know, oh, pass, so you don't drink anymore.
Starting point is 01:05:15 No, I will never say that. Because sometimes I drink a glass of wine with it. Because if I don't do that, you know, yeah, I'm not going to be a happy camper anymore. At least me. Other people might be different, but at least it's me. You get used to everything. Just make it a habit and just keep it on doing it, and you'll be amazed what you can do. So you, because like I watched some fighters over the year.
Starting point is 01:05:36 In fact, Conner's stamina this time impressed me. It was more, yeah, because there was a lot of grappling going on too. Yes, he impressed me. This time I thought he would die a lot sooner, but he impressed me this time. But even BJ Penn for years, struggled with his stamina. I thought that it was maybe just a weakness that some people have. They can't build on their stamina. No, what it is, okay, 90% of the case, I can never say 100%.
Starting point is 01:06:05 But I'm telling you that they control what they're doing in the gym. If their coach says, you did the three more rounds and they don't feel like it, and I simply not going to do it. Because there are that statue that the coach is not even going to say anything. You see, and that's the problem. And once you're technically very good and better than everybody else in your gym,
Starting point is 01:06:22 you don't get tired because you school these people. What you need to do is bring a few pro boxers in or pro kickboxers who put the pressure on you and watch how suddenly you get tired again because it's territory that you have never been in. The breathing pattern. If you're totally calm and you can breathe as good, I could get fighters tired by just fainting
Starting point is 01:06:41 because they would stand and they start and they get tired interrupt the breathing pattern you know that's why you get tired you need guys I did I never tapped in class I mean I may be five times in the last 20 years I've ever in rolling so I knew
Starting point is 01:06:58 that I was pretty good there so what I did I did only shark tank exercises because otherwise I'm just working schools around I school them and I don't get tired so what I would do on one and a half minutes with him one and a half one a minute there was a shark tank I did one and a half doctor off one and a half minute Pedro Hizo. Mark Kerr and Marco Huas. Do those rounds, six minute rounds against the
Starting point is 01:07:17 fresh guy every one and a half minute. That's a fun shark thing. Now you're going to be perfect. Trust me, you're going to get tired. But if I do this with white belts, I'm not going to get tired. I'm not going to get tired. That's cool these guys. And that's the problem. You need to bring people in who can beat you, who are better than you. And if you can't get those, then you have to do it like I do. Get yourself tired. Another drill that I did, I would kick two minutes a kicking shield, as hard as I hand, three right, three left, three right, three left. It started with a minute because then you're tired. If you do this really hard, extremely hard kicking, you're really tired after a minute.
Starting point is 01:07:49 But again, you're doing it over and over again, suddenly becomes one and a half minute. And then you get tired as two minutes. After two minutes, I throw the shield down, I lay on my back, they jump on top, any position they want, and they start attacking. I start rolling and rolling. I roll only two minutes, back, two minutes kicking, full power. Now, he's got two minute rest. So every time when I'm working and I'm getting more tired, he's taking a two minute break.
Starting point is 01:08:10 and now I continue with him again. You see, so I make him stronger and stronger. I make myself weaker and weaker, but that's the way you're going to get in shape. Hill sprints. They go, oh, do it on the hill. Why don't you do it in a treadmill? That's what I used to do.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Trapmill, you can't fool a treadmill. You can pace yourself on hill sprints. It's still good, not saying that, but the way I did it. I would go run 11, 12 miles an hour for 10 minutes. That's the warm up. Then the incline goes all the way up. I go to 9 miles an hour.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And I say all the way up when I was training. So it's 15%. because nowadays you have treadmills would go 30%. So don't do that. You know, well, again, if you build it up, you probably can do it. Go slow. 45 seconds on, 30 seconds off. 45 seconds on again, 30 seconds off.
Starting point is 01:08:53 That is a killer. That always got me really hard. First five, six rounds, easy. But boy, once you start doing seven, number eight, number nine, you're getting extremely tired because the treadmill keeps going nine miles an hour. You can slow down. You can't pace yourself. You got to keep her.
Starting point is 01:09:10 money money money you know and I find a lot of guys do it on seven miles now or eight miles now for somehow for me it was I built it up less legged asset if I would do it at a higher speed otherwise I would do it at a two but somehow nine was easier for me to do than eight miles now right I don't know why it's probably because of that you know you go faster and you don't build up as much like that I have no clue so but again you could choose to it you like the treadmill in contrast to just printing 40 years just printing never never just trade I'm never like with my knees right now I have bad knees right now
Starting point is 01:09:43 what I do treadmill I put it all the way up and I walk with my legs stretched because I have no carts on my kneecaps so stretched legs is no problem for me I can kick too
Starting point is 01:09:50 I do these kicking drills doing now almost every once every day I try to work a pool workout I do and then I do a kicking drill the kicking drill is 15 rounds of one minute so what you do is you kick as hard as you can for one minute
Starting point is 01:10:03 you take one minute off and then again one minute as hard as you can and one minute off as one minute after six seven rounds if you don't do this, you cannot do one minute anymore. It's really hard for you. How long does a punching bag last you?
Starting point is 01:10:15 I feel like you kick through everywhere, like a new one. At the gym, I just picked the ones out at the gym, so I never know when they go when they break. But anyway, what I do then, if this is 10 weeks before a fight, for instance, right? So I did the normal workout, and then I'm going to do my half hour workout, the one minute, one minute, one minute I do. Once I have 15 rounds, the next week, I do one minute, five seconds. And I take 55 seconds rest.
Starting point is 01:10:38 So I add, I increase the work time with five seconds and take away five seconds of the rest time. And then a week later, I go five seconds only more. So slowly but surely I do one minute five, one minute 10, one minute 15, 45 seconds rest, one minute 20, 40 seconds rest. Until you hit after like 10 weeks, you're at one and a half minute rounds, full power with 30 seconds break.
Starting point is 01:10:59 And people go like, well, you're going to be in the best shape of your life. Trust me. Because how many times do you see a boxer or a kickboxer So they put somebody in the corner and they unload for like 15 seconds, 20 seconds. And they're gassing. That's 20 seconds. I'm doing a minute and a half. Full blast, 15 of those rounds.
Starting point is 01:11:17 So it's just training your body to throw out relax, throw out relax. And you just keep doing that. Eventually you get used to it like anything else in life and you can do it. I learn more from you in one hour than fucking every time I'm around you. One hour, I get schooled. No, that makes sense. They call that something, right? Like the hit program now?
Starting point is 01:11:39 Yeah. Oh, I don't know. High intensity. High intensity level. I've always been doing that. I've been doing that shit since day one. Yes, since day one. That was my stamina.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I used, you know what, I had really cool. We will go at six o'clock in the morning train because then there was nobody in the weightlifting room. We take 50 or 12 exercises. We do a power training, a pushing exercise, a pulling exercise, a conditioning exercise. And then you have 12, so 12 stations. And then we go around the 12. round the 12 and it should go 50 seconds, 5-0 seconds, you give yourself 10 seconds to go to the next
Starting point is 01:12:09 exercise and then you do the exercise. You do the whole round of 12, that's 12 minutes, then you take a minute break and then you do that circle you do three times, with 36 minutes. That's a very hard workout as well because what happens you start pumping up, especially when you do apps. I challenge you, do 100 apps and go on a treadmill. You're going to die because the apps start pumping up, like I said, and they start also pumping up on the inside. So now your lungs cannot completely inhaled anymore. That's why it's, you know, with the O2 trainer, that's why if you do this, this is proven, by the ways, guys, I have this in published medical journal. So this is 100% proven. If you do it two times a day, 30 repetitions in the morning and in the evening,
Starting point is 01:12:48 if you do that for six weeks, after six weeks, you can maintain it by doing it once. But if you do that twice a day, you take care of all the lectic acid in your core. That, you have no clue what that will do for you. That will do so much wonders for you. You can shoot up EPO. You can do whatever. will never do as much for you as if you take care of the lectic acid in your body. Because that makes sure that it doesn't start pumping anymore. So you constantly have your lungs have space in order to breathe. You're a fucking genius.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Right. Well, tell me, ask my wife. No, you really are. I mean, you just, you just told us about bad knuckle boxing, Pepsidot, whatever, peptides. Peptides, yeah. I love this. I've loved this since day one.
Starting point is 01:13:35 When I saw you on there with somebody, I ordered it right away, and I started the program from day one, and I even walk with it. I made myself walk with it around the park. In the beginning, I had to take it out because I would get dizzy. Yep. But then it just got used to it. Now, when I feel that I'm smoking too much,
Starting point is 01:13:55 this is what I fucking use to clean out my... And I'll do this in the morning. We were just talking about it, and I love that, because I had the same thing. If I'm having phlegm, right, then I feel my lungs about it. I do 30 repetitions and listen, not even five minutes later. You cough everything out, right? It's so wild.
Starting point is 01:14:11 And all my friends have the same thing. And what is it called? O2 trainer. The O2 trainer. The O2 trainer, yeah. You know, go O2Trainor.com, there's a video on there. And you only, literally, for me, it takes less than three and a half minutes a day. I do 30 repetitions.
Starting point is 01:14:24 I have a Facebook page. It's a closed one, but everybody can join and I will accept them. It's Boston's O2 Bootcamp. and you will see me since last May I've been posting videos I might have missed 10 because I've been traveling internationally or something
Starting point is 01:14:39 but that's it every single day I do a time lapse so they don't have to do it they can watch for 12 seconds or 15 seconds instead of watching the whole freaking thing for three and a half minutes nobody's going to do it anyway
Starting point is 01:14:48 but at least they can see that I do it because if I do it hopefully I set the tone that you say okay I'm going to do it also you know it cured me of my asthma all my friends cured me of their asthma nobody's using an inhaler mirror one now you go over the website
Starting point is 01:15:01 you read the review from people that are writing to me that I'm off it's officially I have no more asthma my doctor said you know those things are for me insane because I made this invention when I was 14 years old I was a severe asthma patient I was a week in bed eight days in bed not able to eat because you couldn't breathe 24 seven for eight days straight but then after when I did that I would resume my track and field when my lungs would be open again and once I would resume my track and field I will break my running times. And it drove me nuts. I go, why is that every time after an attack? I'm running better. Until I saw a doctor, I saw a poster from a pair of lungs at the doctor's
Starting point is 01:15:40 office. And you know, as a kid, you think that, and as an adult also, that the affection is in your lungs, right? But it's not. It's the air pipes that go to the lungs. Those are infected. And they get, and there was one open air pipe, and next to it was a pipe that was closed like this. And that was literally 14 years old. I looked at it. I go, oh, man, I've been working out my lungs for eight days. I've been pulling in air through this little tiny hole. I've been, I made my inhaling system stronger. And now when suddenly the infection is gone, it's much easier for me to breathe.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Oh, I got to come up with something that controls the air intake. And I started experimenting with like these coins from France. They had coins. We would go on vacation to France, coins with little holes in them. And I tried to put them in front of my teeth, you know, so I could only breathe through that thing. But yeah, if you get tired and you breathe in, your mouth opens,
Starting point is 01:16:28 well, you're that, you know, if that thing goes into your lungs. So I, but it's talk always was in my head constantly. And then finally, when I came here and I talked, people always told, you know, always people at the parties, they say, I got an invention, I get this invention, this invention. And when I would tell my invention, every single person would go, do you, you got to make that. That's a, that's, so eventually I said, okay, I'll make it. I started training with the prototype.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Now, listen, I carried an inhaler with me everywhere I went. If I would come here without inhaler and I would sneeze, like really violently. I sneezed three times. completely closed my lungs. I have to open them up with an air, but an inhaler. So if I would travel without an inhaler, I would be doomed.
Starting point is 01:17:07 I always need every fight I had, every single fight I had in my life. In the dressing room, I have to spray my lungs open because it's exercise-induced, they call it. Like a lot of asthma patients have it. If they take a sprint,
Starting point is 01:17:18 a hundred-meter sprint, they stop, they're good for about a minute, boom, longs close up. Then they need the inhaler to open it up. I trained with the prototype, maybe two and a half, maximum three weeks.
Starting point is 01:17:29 I've never used my inhaler anymore. I don't carry with me. I don't have them in my bag. Not even as a backup thing in my womb, nothing with me. It's complete freedom because these bulky things you don't want to have them in your pants off
Starting point is 01:17:40 everywhere you go. So I sent it to a friend of mine in Holland who had asthma and I say, here, try this out. You know, this is crazy. At that time we used to train with it instead of doing the exercises. And he called me a week later.
Starting point is 01:17:51 He says, I want to sell them in Europe. I said, why? He says, my asthma's gone. I got a week. And then I start bringing it to everybody with asthma. and it was freaking during their asthma I go man we're on to something
Starting point is 01:18:01 you know so now I'm in talk I have some really good the guy who trains Usain Bolt you know and he trains three other gold medalists from the last Olympics and the silver medalist and boxing Jet Masias he's a very smart guy
Starting point is 01:18:15 scientist and he wrote a really bad review about my competition's product and my manager called me said did you read the review I said about what about that so-and-so product and I said no but I can tell you that it sucks to write the review. And he says, how?
Starting point is 01:18:29 I said, because they control the air in and out. They said, it's not a good concept. You only have to control the air in because then you can completely exhaling your lungs. You can empty your lungs and entirely fill them back up again. But if you do with resistance, there's always air left in your lungs. Right. You cannot completely clean them out.
Starting point is 01:18:46 So they all said that I was crazy. And now suddenly they want to partner up with me because guess what? I have the patent. But anyway, I told the guy, my manager, called a guy who wrote a review. If you can find out who that is, I want to send him an O2 trainer. And he tells me, you sure you want to do that?
Starting point is 01:19:01 Because what if they got to write a bad review? I say they're not. Because I know. It cured me from my asthma, all the other people. It's going to be good. Trust me. He finds the guy, calls the guy, says, hey, I'm representing Boss Rutton. Guys answer, right away.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Oh, O2 trainer, we're already doing that. Boom. Now I had suddenly 12 or 18 published medical journals because they're already using that. And whether it's 100% proven, because that's what it means. If it's a published medical journal, that means it's 100% percent proven. I always tell people if you know if this is clinically tested, don't buy that product. Because if it was clinically proven, it would have said clinically proven.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Clinical testing doesn't mean anything. What was the result of that test? That's what you want to ask. But people nowadays, they're so, oh, it's clinically tested. It's got to be good because they read the word clinically and they think it's good. No, no, no. If it's clinically tested, it's not a good product. Because if it's clinically tested and it would be proven, it would have said clinically proven. That's where you want to look for. And that's a problem. It's journal that's clinically proven and you can find it. You know, there's published medical journals online.
Starting point is 01:20:03 You can literally look in there and that's where you can find the test. Well, I use it so I don't need to read no fucking test. There you go. You know what I'm saying? I'm a believer. I'm like Ozzy Osbourne and 81. I'm a believer. But you didn't eat a bet. No, fuck that shit.
Starting point is 01:20:19 No, this is, uh, I told you, I ordered it when I saw you on Rogan. I didn't even know who you were really. I know you were, but I didn't even really think about. it and right away I felt it and I went up the ladder yeah I'm up to the last hole and I sit there at nights in the mornings and when I'm doing things I'll pop it in especially if I hear a lot of wheezing yep if I hear a lot of wheezing which the listeners here yeah and I work on that wheezing it's just it's 30 years of smoking pot there's nothing you could do yeah but this takes
Starting point is 01:20:47 that top layer of phlegm out yep it really does clean it out you know what I had a great thing but Belize that right you know Belize right yeah we did the video together yeah so what happens I forced myself with this to stop breathing with my shoulders. That's what I... All that stuff I did. I think you put me in contact with her, right? That was in the beginning. I told her that you guys had to get together.
Starting point is 01:21:09 So I went over to the Park Fifth Avenue where she has her office, right? I'm coming in there. She says, okay, first thing we're going to do is measure your chest. So I'm breathing out and then she measured my chest. She says, oh, she's freaked out. He goes, what? He says, no, do it again, do it again. That's not possible.
Starting point is 01:21:26 She does it again. I breathe in again. And she goes, oh, you're going to have to wait. And she runs out and she comes back with another doctor. And I go, okay, what's going on? She said, well, if I wouldn't do this, he would never believe it. I said, what's going on? She said, okay, my inhale, normally when somebody breaks the record.
Starting point is 01:21:42 So what they do, they measure how much your chest expands, right? Because that's how much air you can pull in, because that's how your lungs open up. By your chest expanding, your lungs don't do anything. There's a vacuum between the lungs and the body. And if you expand this, that's how your lungs go open. muscles almost don't do anything it's all your upper body doing it the more you can expand the more air you can pull in she says normally when somebody breaks the record here it's like an eighth of an inch maybe maybe maybe a quarter of an inch you just broke it over
Starting point is 01:22:12 almost two and a half inch she says this is insane and the only thing that I've been doing different than everybody else she was was the O2 trainer so now she on her breathing classes she gives everybody no to trainer you know she says start breathing with this. So we have a really good relationship now together because she's focusing on the breathing out part. I'm focusing on the breathing in part. But now I know people say, yeah, but you cannot do it both
Starting point is 01:22:37 because you just said that. No, no, no, no. You cannot do it simultaneously. You won't find a test that's good. Yeah, maybe a test written by the person who invented that thing will say it's good. But a real test will not say that. But if you switch it up, if you do one day you're inhaling and the next day you do your exhaling, the way
Starting point is 01:22:53 she does with the balloon, you know, then you strengthen both muscles and then that's a really good combination to do. So it works both. As long as you don't do it simultaneously, out with resistance, in with resistance, that's not going to work.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Boss Routen from breathing to bed knuckle beatens. You're going to watch his show, right? Heavyweight champ. What date is it? It's November 9th. It's a Friday night. It's a Friday night.
Starting point is 01:23:17 And I'll be in New York City doing two shows, but I will promise to tape it and give a review of my own on the animalistic ways. I would love that. I love all that shit. Oh, it's the best, man.
Starting point is 01:23:28 But once I see blood, I start fainting. I faintly at the U.S.C. one time. No, don't tell me that. Yes. Keep your phrase to yourself, dude. Don't do that. I came faint of the UFC. When they threw the towel out of the ring,
Starting point is 01:23:39 and it was covered with blood, I just went out. Oh, my God. Wow. And when BJ Penn beat up Big Daddy Stevenson, that was the most blood ever in the ring. Oh, with the elbows. It was at one in the morning. It was all the puddle was there on the floor, remember?
Starting point is 01:23:53 And I remember being on the couch, and next thing waking up at like four in the morning, and going, what the fuck? Wow. Yeah, I can't watch it. Use your periscope yourself watching and just waking up every few minutes on them. I should have known.
Starting point is 01:24:03 That's what I need. With your little needles, she can't even use a needle. No, I don't like needles. I got to look the other way. I got to have an iPod on. I got to listen to music. I got to trust a lady. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:12 I got a little lady down at Bob Hope. She knows exactly how to handle Uncle Joey. They come in with the cart. I looked the other way in the window. I got to see light coming in. And then I know I'm safe. Yeah, yeah. If I do it in a room with no windows, I get claustrophobic.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Okay. I've got to be really careful. Always a pleasure, brother. Yeah, man. Always a pleasure to get together with you. Always a pleasure spreading the O2 trainer. I love it. You know, it's helped me dramatically.
Starting point is 01:24:39 I mean, I'm not fucking jumping over windows. Yep. But I'm doing a lot better than I was. Yeah, man. I'm so happy to hear that. All right, so November 9th. And then what do you think after that? There's going to be a monthly card.
Starting point is 01:24:49 No, I think in February, they were kind of going for that. We're doing a lot of fun stuff, good stuff as well. It's a very classy show. Jimmy Lennon Jr. is going to be the ring announcer. We got Kenny Rice back with me in the commentating booth. I worked with him for such a long time. It was like my brother. And he's got that old voice, you know, Jimmy Lennon also.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Ladies and gentlemen, you know, they've got that Kenny little voice. What I love about him. I was so excited that he was the voice for my last fight in 2006. And he was the announcer. I go, there's no way. Jimmy Lannin Jr. So I called him and he said, it's your boss. For you, I would do anything.
Starting point is 01:25:20 So they came over Bert Watson. We have Bert Watson running backstage. the stuff. Candy Rice is in there. Yeah, we, you know, the microphone is going to come from the top down, like the old boxing. We got the ring goals and nightgowns. We make it a very
Starting point is 01:25:33 classy show and then we let the boxing speak for itself, you know, because you know it will be bloody. But our competition is the last show for what I believe I believe that 14 fights. There was one knockout and there was one broken hand. And there was some little cuts there. So CTE wise,
Starting point is 01:25:50 yeah, I hope people really don't believe what I'm saying and Google it. Is bare knuckle boxing safer than boxing because then you will find out that pretty much every single test will tell you it's actually safer because you hit the head less hard. So, yeah, do the homework. Come watch the show, 2995, man.
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