The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #640 - Rikki Rockett

Episode Date: December 3, 2018

Rikki Rockett, the drummer for the band Poison and a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt, returns to the Church of What's Happening Now to join Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio.  This podcast is brought to you by: Stamps.com -  Use code JOEY for a 4 week trial which includes postage and a digital scale. Go to Stamps.com, click on the Radio Microphone at the top of the homepage and type in JOEY. Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.   Recorded live on 12/02/2018.
  

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So good to see you, man. Good to see you. Why the hell do you have me on here again? Because you're spectacular. Because you're spectacular. You know what? It's nice because I had to go see the ex-wife before I came over here. Go drop some stuff.

off to the kids. And it made me think about something. I remember that when I was seeing her, when we were together, somebody stole my credit card, right? But I never bothered to report it because the guy that stole it was spending less than her. You can use that. That's for you. Now, the ex-wife, how's your relationship with it? It's fine. You talk. Yeah, yeah, we're civil. Yeah, we're civil. That's the most important fucking thing. The ex-wife war could be fucking... Well, we've been through that too.

You know. So now you're civil. Now you put your differences aside. For the sake of the kids, man. You know, they say stay together for the kids. No, go apart and learn to work together apart. That's the best for the kids when you can't get along. We did everything we could, and it just wouldn't work.

When people stay together for the kids... The kids see it. Absolutely. They feel it. Yeah. They feel it. They feel it. The kids feel it and you're doing the kids of disjustice anyway.

Yeah, yeah. You know, divorce is a fucking motherfucker. I was talking to a guy this weekend that got divorced after 37 years. Like, what do you do? 37 years. Yeah. How old is a guy? Let's say he's 60.

What are you going to do? What do you do? That would be as honest as I am with you guys. it would be my biggest fear to lose my wife because I would be completely lost. Well, I mean, like George Bush, he was lost when Barbara died. Lost. It's why he died.

I mean, I'm convinced him. No, he was old, too. Don't get me wrong. But, I mean, you know, after my mom went, my dad was a year behind her. Yeah, my wife is my, like, I don't know anything. I don't know anything about the house, the mortgage. the rents, the car payments. Isn't that funny how they wind up right?

I don't show. She's an accountant by trade. She's an accountant? This is what she does. Oh, man. This is her world. Do you have a pre-nup? No, no.

I couldn't have a pre-up. How can you have a pre-up with somebody who saw you grow from nothing? I couldn't have a pre-n't ask you. Well, yeah, that's different. I would not even. My ex-wife came into it. I was already, poison had already done. Right.

We were, you know, I mean, all our pivotal records had already been recorded by the time we got involved. I'm talking, you move out here from Pennsylvania, move a girl sleeps in a car with you for a week until you find an apartment. Right, doesn't give you any shit. Yeah. You get an apartment with her, you have your ups and downs. All of a sudden you join a band. You got to, what are you going to do, dump her? The karma that you're going to have on you.

I did. No. The karma that's going to be on you is going to be the stench of 10 dead fucking money. So you don't want that stench on you. So somebody who's been there with you, but here's another side of that coin that when I got married, I got married because she stuck it out with me in prison. Yeah, yeah. The first wife. The first wife.

When I came out, I felt obliged, even though we were having ups and downs. I felt like she stuck it out with me. I ended up marrying her and it backfired. Yeah. So there's two sides to every coin. Yeah, yeah. But you know, my girl went through, you know, all the cancer stuff with me. But it wasn't like I don't feel obliged. I mean, of course I do to some degree, but that's not why I'm with her. I feel like she showed me the side of her that I was looking for in somebody. There was other

candidates, you know what I mean? But somebody that will, you know, really stand by you? I mean, come on, That's gold. You know what I mean? I mean, it's just... You cannot... I'll never forget that her and I had been dating about two or three years. And at that time, they were...

I don't know if it was A&E. They did a series of stories about different actors and comics. And they did a story about Kennyson. Oh, right, right. They were talking and they go that he dated a girl in the beginning and dumped her, and she knew he was just using her, you know?

Right. I'll never forget that my wife at the time after like two or three years looked at me and she goes I hope you you'll never do anything like that you know like yeah if you ever happened did you know Kinnison no no I did C C C C C C C C C C in him with him a lot a lot right C C C C C C C C and him would say that was they were they were that was and so therefore I saw him a lot you know what I mean personally I think C C C C C C is wittier and funnier than Sam Kinnison you have no I thought there was a time when I first moved here

where I'd see C C C C and he'd honestly make me laugh there's people who make you laugh with their wit but there's people that their body language cracks me the fuck up and C C C C is one of those guys

who C C C C C? The guitar player from Poison. Okay gotcha but it's really weird he's from Brooklyn yeah so he's got that natural character you know, who else is like that? Ace freely. Yeah, he is.

Ace freely, I think in the early interviews, I can't control myself some nights. I go into a kisshole and I get into, you know, early ones when Gene would be furious and Ace freely would be high as fuck, cracking judge and shit. Laughing his ass off. I remember one of some interview he was doing, he was laughing about something where they said,

you know, what else are we going to do, be plumbers. Yeah, yeah. He's laughing his ass off about it and jeans are like all serious, you know. He's howling. Yeah. But the last couple interviews I see them with, ever since he got clean and sober, he's not that funny no more. Oh, sure. Now he's more, you know, he's more focused on the music, which I love Ace, no disrespect to him.

I just think ever since he got sober, like, he's just a little bit more tighter now in his interviews. Oh, right. Oh, sorry. It's like a kick drum. The Kiss reunion, or not reunion, but they, supposedly it's going to. be the last tour we're talking about right it's got to be with ace and Peter don't you think I don't think Peter

oh that is causing that tour isn't it that tour could be they could I would look at Stone's tickets for 800 right I think this Kiss Army tour could be 1,200 a ticket and they could get away with it but

they got to have Ace and they got to have the other guy but then something else happened that destroyed the tour. It's done. Unless you're cooking crazy, because last Monday on what's his name show, they had a

whole, they busted out Paul Stanley. His voice is gone. Is it really? He's going to do this to a lip singing. Seriously? The people that are in the know like in music are like Paul Stanley got that operation and instead of

recovering properly, and I'm not even part of the Kiss Army. This is what I learned just listening. to that guy on Mondays. What's his name? I don't know. The guy on Sirius, like Jim Florentine's buddy. They did have a metal show together. Oh, okay. You know, Michael Trunk.

Eddie Trunk. Oh, Eddie Trunk. I love Mondays. I love Mondays. I get in the car just to listen to fucking Eddie Trunk. Yeah, no, Eddie's the shit. So last Monday busted out. I caught the tail end. I had the baby. Yeah. I had to take it a movie tie. You know, the first 10 minutes of Muay Thai can sit outside.

My wife's with her, but then I have to go on and watch the class. So I just heard the thing that they're doing the tour, but they taunted people because they thought, nah, bro, they've been taunting people. They did the kiss crews, and they had fucking Gene Ace come on and do two songs. You know, these kids people are serious.

Poison people are serious. Led Zeppelin people are serious. You know, you remember as a child growing up in Pennsylvania, and I've always used this argument because America forgets this argument. There was a time before 1979, that no matter what fucking album you liked, there was always one asshole in the circle that said,

it doesn't matter if the Lenin's skin, it's good, but they're not better than the Beatles. Wait till the Beatles get back together. Do you remember that before John Lennon got shot? There was always one fucking nerd in the room that didn't like whatever, and it was always like that. Always, always.

There's one nayser, of course. You're with 6, 16-year-olds in the room and you listen to the new poison hour. And four of us saying one guy is always the, well, you know, the bass sounds off. There's always that one jerk off. But then there's always that one jerk off at the end that goes, it's a good album, but it doesn't matter. Wait till the Beatles get back together.

There was always that one asshole. I was so happy that day John Lennon got shot because all those people fucking had to go fuck themselves. I was happy and sad at the same time because now I could win an argument. I can finally win a fuck in our fuck you with the Beatles. It's over. But it was weird. Like you just, I don't even know how we got the topic. But it doesn't really matter.

They take it seriously with their band members. They take it very seriously. You know, these people, listen, man, when you're a fan or whoever, you'll pay whatever. You'll pay whatever. You see the prices. We're talking about, yeah, there's no money in music, no money. So there's no money in music sales. so that money has to come from sold. Right, right.

A lot of stuff is live stuff. And like I said, like Devil City Angels, my sideband, we're negotiating with a label in Australia. They want to do a single at a time. That's how they want to do it. They don't care about a full record all once, like where you go lock up for two, three months, make a record and then release it

and then keep releasing single. They want to do it one song at a time. And it makes sense. It's like back to the 50s, you know what I mean? because that's how people consume it now one thing at a time quick you know it's not necessarily a bad thing I mean yeah I just think you have to look at it at the industry a little differently people are just like oh my god they're just so doomsday about the music industry now what happened you know a lot of things

happen a lot of things changed and and a lot of people bitch about the internet it's the fucking internet you know it's a lot of things happen. I mean, cultural shifts and all sorts of stuff, you know. Rock and roll wasn't as dangerous as it used to be. It was just not. And I think that hurt rock and roll. And rock and roll were albums.

Rap were albums. That was the last thing to go. It was always the CDs. You know what I mean? The albums and then, of course, the CDs. And the CDs were the last things to go. And the last places that it went were the people that were buying rap albums.

Rock went and then rap one. But Rock's not dangerous no more. We were raised on the you're giving me $7 for an album concept. Like I was just thinking about this. Like I don't know how much music I bought.

I don't know how many millions of dollars I've spent on albums. They got lost. I re-bought them. Just the collection, the vinyl I gave away. The vinyl a collection I gave away in 84 broke my heart. Like it was one of those things where you had to turn your back

and I had to get in the car with tear rolling down. I got a story and I don't even want to tell you because it would just implicate somebody so bad but somebody put my records out in the fucking rain. Okay. I'm talking Led Zeppelin 2, all kinds of shit. The Who, Tommy, all kinds of shit.

Gone. Fucking gone. My collection from I'm not going to say who it is. What are you? Like, that situation. You want to stab a motherfucker. Yeah. Especially if you have that type of collection.

I can't even verbalize the things I've thought of, you know. I can't get me arrested. I can't imagine. There's people who could just go to, not Chiba. What's the name of it on Sunset, the music place, Gazebo? Amoeba. You go to Amoeba. You go to Amoeba, drop $20,000 and have a great music collection.

Yeah, you could. That's one thing. Yeah. That's one thing, which I refuse to do. I like, I don't know, I'm still into the, I feel bad that I gave away my albums in 84. I had no choice. I gave him to somebody who was a metal head chick who still has them, who I trust her, the whole thing. But now that, I love these fucking albums.

Yeah, I know. I'm looking. I love going over to this place over here in Burbank, and I go in there and I walk around for an hour like a moron. It's my psychiatry. albums are bitching. There were firms, right? That that's all they did was come up with album concepts and photography and graphics and stuff.

And now that's a digital form and those companies are gone and people have moved on. But I mean, I mean, people would just be like when they're, I mean, how many kids did you know in school, right? That the thing they wanted to do was grow up and be an artist for an album cover. I want to do album covers. I'm going to do art for album covers. I mean, it literally begged people to create another art form, you know, this square that would open up. You know what I mean?

And we don't have that anymore. I mean, yeah, sure, there's a few here, but it's not like it was. No, I always say that they took away that whole, listen, I grew up on Saturday mornings watching cartoons. Saturday morning and all the American kids, you watch cartoons. Once you outgrew that, it got to the, point where you went on your whatever your main street was in your hometown where they

had the sporting goods and they had the comic book store and they had the music store you know all in different parts right right you and your buddies would walk for miles without complaining in the wintertime humidity you know fleas the whole fucking thing it didn't matter where today you wouldn't do that right you know that feeling of going to the record store and like you're going to get something i'm going to get sabotage you're going to get Pink Floyd metal and Lees going to get Rolling Stones made in the shade. But then we'd get down there

and you'd find something cooler. You'd find Metallica on whatever. We'd change. There was something to that. No, let me tell you something. It would be like, I don't remember what day of the week, but I would get my allowance for doing, you know, chores and stuff like that.

And I'd go right down to, I think, Corvettes, the basement. E.J. Corvettes, right? And sometimes I just look at the cover and go through all these covers and find like the coolest looking cover and go, I'm just going to try this. And sometimes you fucked up. It would be like horrible. You'd be like, ah. But I discovered shit like UFO and stuff like that just by the cover. The cover.

Because I thought it was so cool. I'm like it's, they have to have good music if they put this much into the cover. That's where my head went. No, my head too. And, you know, so I try, you made you try things. Now it's, it's a whole different way. I mean, they did this social experiment. They ask all these kids, you know, hey, what would you rather have Snapchat or would

you rather have iTunes? And like 70% said, we'd rather have Snapchat. I can't even wrap my head around that. Can you? No. You know, music is like ancillary to like a lot of kids growing up now. It's like an ancillary product. It's not like the thing.

For us, it was the thing. I'm coming over to your house because you have a better high-fi system than I do. So I'm going to listen to my new record at your house because you have bitching shit. We're going to smoke pot. We're going to listen to the fucking new Zeppelin record.

Now it's like, let's go over to his house because he's got a better PlayStation. He's got surround sound PlayStation. I've never thought about this, you know? I've never thought about this. If we could get another piece of product, that required a way of listening to things again,

like 5.1 surround sound, if that became cool again, which it should, because I've heard records done in 5.1 surround and it's fucking phenomenal. I heard a remix of like Blackwater, you know, in 5.1 and voices were over it, and it was incredible.

Just freaking incredible. Nobody cares. They're fine with this compressed sound that comes off of a laptop, you know, with headphones. Let me ask you this. Fake bass. Who pays 800 for Rolling Stone tickets? Is it 29-year-old kids that go to Lola, not Lola Palooza?

What's the one in the desert that they paid $254 a ticket last year? And it was the stone. In the desert? Yeah. What's the one there? Not burning, man. But the other one they did. Nobody pays me.

It's the big one. Beyonce just did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the hell do you? Oh, Coachella? Yes, right, right. Okay, so Coachella's young kids. That's primarily.

Okay. Now who's going to pay 800 to go see the stones? Guys are age? Or will there be like I was talking to the owner of the Nashville Zanis and he's a fucking deadhead to the end? You know, now he got to cut his hair and the whole thing, but he has stories for hours. And he said that last year,

year, two years ago as a joke, he figured he went to see him in Denver. And he said that he had to leave. He goes, it wasn't really deadheads. It was kids with deadhead t-shirts on, smoking pot. Well, you know what? This, that can happen. You know what I mean? It can be a lot of people rediscovered. No, they rediscovered things, but people rediscover things. I mean, the thing is, is that so many of these bands were a moment in time. I mean, you know, the Rolling Stones, are a phenomenon. I mean, if you dissect each guy's playing, you know, are people better guitar players

than Keith Richards? I know all this stuff is subjective, okay? But I mean, from a technical standpoint, a lot of people are gonna be better guitar players in Keith Richard. But Keith Richards somehow has that grease and the stones together feel like they're gonna fall off the edge all the time.

And you're always like there's this uneasiness. It's not, the imperfection what's so perfect about them. I mean, it just feels like it's going to fall apart and it doesn't fall apart. It stays together. But barely, and you're waiting for the next book. You know what I mean?

And there's this tension in their music, you know? And it's like sometimes, you know, Ron's like, you know, even on stage, he's like he's telling, you know, mix something. You know what I mean? Like there's this crazy exchange. And not every band works that way. Some bands, it's like they're playing to a click

and they're just all doing their thing. and it's a great song and the vocals are on and the music's on and okay great how do you come up with a band like the stone even the even the even zeppelin if you think about it as good of players as they were the way they mesh is really what it what makes it work what made that band work you know what i mean just i mean sometimes um you know uh bottom would be playing in a different time than page would be playing in. And it would sound like it was in the same time, but it would create this tension. We do it with poison. C.C. is ahead of the beat, and I sit behind the beat. It's just how it's always been, and there's this thing. And if I play with a different guitar player, it's bitching,

and a lot of times we're right on, but there's something between Cici and I that works. And most drummers and guitar players don't work that way. It's usually bass players and drummers that have that dynamic, you know. Bobby's always right up the middle, glues it together. And that's what makes it work for us, you know? It's weird of all the components to make a great band. Like, it's just not four great musicians. There's so many, it's invisible jiu-jitsu. Dude, exactly.

If one plus one equal two, we'd be doing it all day long. We'd be fucking doing it all day long. This morning I listened to what I think is a musical masterpiece. It was an album that I just sunk into my head at a weird time in my life. when I was just starting to discover who the fuck I was and experimented. That just happened for me like a year ago. No.

I listened to some girls on the plane today. Start to finish. Start to finish. And the one thing I got to say about it was, I think Keith's guitar work on it, on some girls, just the song, Some girls, is phenomenal.

Respectable, beast of burden. that song that album has so many fucking great beast of burden just destroys me on the inside destroys me it's emotional I mean it's you know the emotion in their stuff is what

I mean they I heard that the way they record and I don't know this to be true but they'll just do one part over and over and over again until it feels right and then they'll splice that and then they'll do the next part over and over until it feels kind of like pro tooling but they did it with splicing tape organically for years and years like that.

I don't know if it's true or not, but they're looking for that moment. You know, when we worked with, when we did the Flesh and Blood record, that's how it was. The producer, God rest his soul, wanted, he only wanted three takes out of me. And if I didn't get it in three takes, he's like, we're moving on. of the next song, we'll deal with it either next day or after lunch or at the end of the day. But I want a snapshot. I want the inspired performance within Bruce Fairburn.

For some reason, I forgot his name for a second. I want, you know, he just wanted that initial feeling within the first three takes. I think I did four takes on one song. And if I didn't get it, oh, we'll do it tomorrow. I want it inspired. I want it to feel fresh and inspired. And I'll feel it. I'll know it when I hear it.

You know what I mean? I couldn't even hear it anymore. You know, we rehearsed the shit so many times. I didn't know when I was inspired and when I wasn't anymore. That's why you need an adult in the room when you're a kid where I'm making a record. Now I think I recognize it, but I probably still don't. Did you like the recording process? I do.

I love the recording process. I love the live process. I love every piece of. making music. I like the writing, all of it. I don't like the business part. I'm not a good business guy. That's why I let Bobby Dahl do it. I'm not a good business person. I just don't like that part. I don't like looking at somebody and saying, you need to pay me this money. It sucks. Yeah. I don't like that. It sucks. Dick. You know. This club I'm doing this weekend. I'm doing La Jolla this weekend. La Jolla Seats.

tickets maybe 190 maybe one 95 most comics avoid it because they can't make any money in there I wanted to do it because it's the way comedy was meant to be done you know I love comics I love comedians with all my heart I love the but I think at one time a venue you lose that magic you know When Mitchie Shaw opened up the La Jolla County store for 190 seats, she was Jewish. She was greedy, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. She sure didn't do it. She paid $15 a set.

She could have put 400 seats in there if she wanted to, but she didn't. She liked the intimacy of that place, you know. And it's so weird that that's what it was meant to be in the beginning. And now it's become Madison Square Garden. I mean, yeah, my favorite. did fucking the one place in the city, Lenny Bruce did Carnegie Hall. I get that, I get. But it's got to be the perfect venue.

Were you a big Lenny Bruce fan? I was a bigger prior fan. Yeah. But Lenny has something I really dig that I really like to tap into. When I listen to Lenny Bruce, it makes me, I don't know. Well, he had some balls. He had balls. He makes me go crazy.

He makes me go crazy. His Jewish, like his Jewish, I could feel a Jew coming through him on the album, which isn't even meant to be funny or nothing. Happy Hanuk at all the Jews up there. This was just something about him. He was a tough Jew. Like, he was a tough Jew,

and he fucking, something just about him. He was always one step past. Yeah. Past, everybody else is thinking. When I read that book And when people would catch up to him They go, ah, yeah, that's why he was so I love when I read that book

It changed me as the first time I read that book I knew I wasn't fucking crazy Freddy Prince Did he mean anything to? Freddie Prince, absolutely Because he was Spanish Yeah So Freddie Prince came along

You know, I was trying to get Freddy Prince Jr. does a show with a dear friend of mine and we were trying to get Freddie on here. And I think I'm happy we couldn't get it together because I think it'd be too emotional for a guy like me. Oh, yeah? Because it's very rough to explain what happened.

It was 1970, you know, and I was a kid, and I was learning the language, and I fell in love with all these different people. And the first guy fell in love with it was Roberto Clemente. Of course. You know, I love Pete Rose, fucking Pete Rose. was my motherfucker when I was growing up. When I saw him beat up Bud Adelson.

Did you know that? Who was that? He has ADHD. Pete Rose. He has what? ADHD. He's got a lot of problems. He's been out, but he's been out, yeah.

He's gambling. He's like, but that may have caused some stuff as a- Right. But, you know, I had all these heroes, you know, Julius serving, but there was something about Roberto Clemente's death that it was just New Year's Day.

Yeah, yeah. New Year's Day. Like, you know, you wake up New Year's Day. And this guy had just fucking hit his 300 hit. Like, this guy was on fire. Like, and all of a sudden there's an earthquake, and he's going to bring supplies down. He's going to be a good guy, the Nicaragua,

and the plane disappears in fucking the Bermuda Triangle. It just destroyed America. Just, like, people are like, what? Yeah, man, it's a deep. It's a deep story. Deep, deep, deep. Like, you're like, this is America's baseball. And he was fucking Puerto Rican.

But if you watch his videos, his English, you could feel his English, how he came through. Like, he really wanted to be an American. He always had a little suit on with a fucking tie and shit. He was just a badass leaf. If he played the Red Sox, you still cheered for him. He was that type of guy. Like, you're like, you know what?

man I hate the Pittsburgh Pirates. But fuck, and the Dodgers had him. Really? Like the whole story is the Dodgers had him. And they didn't know what to do with him. And then he went to fucking Pittsburgh. And it's just I forgot that you're from Pennsylvania and you grew up in it. You know,

that catcher never recovered. Mani Saint-Gia, like, never recovered. Like, that was his fucking best friend. Yeah. They were both Puerto Ricans. He went down to the fucking Keyes and sat on the beach waiting for a burner or walk out of the war. that's how manny was like Roberto was such a badass I had a fly down there just to see if he would walk out of the ocean like that's how fucking and then after he died no the whole thing's an intense story

intense like very very you know Jay Bish he's a Pittsburgh guy he sends me all my Pittsburgh stuff oh yeah the Rocksburg shirt yeah I got two nice shirts that he sends me he just gave me a poster from the Roberto Clemente Museum. Nice. When I go home and decide him, and they give it to my brother to frame and bring it here. So after he dies, he's Puerto Rican. Freddie Prince comes along.

You know, and America was taking a fucking beating then. Then Freddie Prince shoots himself, you know, which is like, you know, the hottest comedian in the fucking world. Yeah, that was a weird one. That was a weird. No way. No end up nowhere. Yeah.

No internet. I mean, for the rest of the world, came out of nowhere. No internet. You're fucking walking home. I was walking on a Friday night. I still remember being with my friends and somebody going, Freddie Prince shot himself.

And I'm like, I walked through a cemetery. I think that night, that was the night that I ate some girls pussy. I fucking behind the grammar school. I still remember her name. I fucked the first and I ate a pussy. And then are you supposed to do it the other way around? I know. But it was freezing outside, right?

It was freezing outside. She was a year older to me. I hope the hell you pulled out. Is this when he dug something in the snow? No. This is a different girl? That was a different girl. This was a German girl that apparently hated Spicks.

Who are Nazis and they hated Spanish people. Hey, well, listen, go back to Desi Arnaz. I mean, that had to, you know, come on. Well, Desi, you know, Desi I loved it and the whole thing. And he related to it. But once Freddie Prince shot himself, that's it. Well, that's more our era, too. And then, I'll tell you what, destroyed me.

The one that put the fucking straw in the camels back with Bruce Lee. That was it. Oh, fuck, yeah. That fucked me up for three or four months. I went nuts for three or four months. You know, I just saw Danny Anasano. Yeah, we saw him that day when we were done it. Well, no, I just saw him.

Again, yeah. I took a picture with him. My son was with me. I was, what, two weeks ago? And what's he 80 something? I mean, you know, and he trains every day. He is Yoda. He is the living Yoda of our generation.

I mean, he's learned more martial arts. He's forgotten more martial arts than I'll ever learn. I mean, you know, I mean, the guy's amazing. I took, you know, one of the first things I wanted to learn was JKD because of Bruce Lee. And so when I had the money and the time, time finally i dedicated myself and i hired cast magda um who was danny's protege for a long time and danny was bruce's protege so i'm like well shit this makes me like third generation bruce lee kind of you know what i mean uh and i worked with him for five years and i learned jkd and i learned

collie you know the stick fighting and knife fighting and c lot and i that's where the ground stuff started to come in, which connected me back in high school with the wrestling when I wrestled in school. And so when I met the Machado brothers, I was like, that's what really sunk into me. I realized that I'm a ground game guy. What's Z-L-L-A-T? Well, there's a supposedly, S-I-L-A-T. Yes. Right, right. In-J-L-L-A, which is, I've heard that there's like hundreds of styles because there's hundreds of villages. Okay. But the one, one of them, one of them, words, you know, in like Sumatra, it's so wet, you know, so they've just started the ground because they're going to fall down, so they just start there.

And that's one of the kinds. Some of it looks like bad kung fu. I mean, some of it's not good. And some of it's extremely effective stuff. You know what I mean? It's a loose grappling style. And there's strikes, but it's more, you know, trips and get the guy on the ground. And sometimes there's weapons involved.

It just depends on the style of C lot. There's just like 140. styles or some crazy and fucking number. And some are more prominent than others. I remember meeting some people from Indonesia and a guy came into a jujitsu school and I'm like, did you ever study C lot? And he goes, no, there's Taekwondo schools on like every corner. I'm like, well, good thing I'm not going over there.

I can learn more of it here. He goes, yeah, you probably could. What's Jekwondo like? Like, I never. I think it's very. It affected me so much that I didn't even want to even fuck with it. You know, I got to tell you, it was when Bruce was, you know, I mean, initially it came from Wing Chung, Kung, Kung, and I think when he came over here, he realized that American Western boxing was such an alive art that, you know, because it's when he said, you know, like if you can, if you can, you know, box for a year and wrestle for you. your year, you can probably beat every lifetime martial artist, you know, because he realized

how effective those things really, truly were. So he started to combine the boxing and the Wing Chun, uh, Kung, uh, Kung, uh, Kung together. And I think it just started and he started to look at other martial arts and go, this is why this works and this is why it doesn't. And why are people practicing and learning techniques that don't work in real combat? What the hell are you doing this for. And he would verbalize this and he would piss people off, man. He made a lot of fucking people mad. And he was just being truthful. He's just going, you need this. You have to listen to your instincts too. You can't just 100% take somebody else's word for it. Hey, if I, you know, if I hit this person in the solar plexes, it's going to crush this and they're going to fall down and

they're going to die. Well, if that worked, they'd be happening in the UFC. You know what I mean? But so, I think what he did was just put a lens on it. You know, Cass told me that, you know, you can actually learn JKD in like three months. The principles, you know, the punches, you know, the strikes, the kicks, they're not, it's not complicated. It just takes a long time to get really good at it. It's just like Muay. There's not a ton of punches and kicks. And like Bruce Lee said, you know, when you first learn martial arts, a punch is a punch.

And when you've gotten to black belt, a punch is still just a punch. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, it's like, you know, all this physics belongs to all of us. You know what I mean? None of us are born with four arms and, you know. So it's not a complicated art. It's not at all. It's very simple.

It just takes a long time, I think, to hone it to where you're really good at. It's just like drums. I can hit a drum and make a noise. You're going to hit a drum and make a noise. But to make the noise cohesive into something that sounds like a piece of music, that takes a little time. And that's what JKD is. It's putting all those pieces together until it makes a lot of sense. No forms, right? No form.

No, there's no forms. They used to, you know, sometimes people teach with the wooden dummy. I know Danny did that. I've never studied under Danny, so I'm not sure, but from what I've heard. But Cass didn't do the wooden dummy. he didn't teach with that. The wind dummies, the wing chung dummy with the two little arms stationary, okay? You just keep making little blocks with your hands and using like kind of your elbows.

Maybe not. It's a lot of trapping and stuff like that. But, you know, I think that, I mean, look, if that trapping worked that well, I think boxers would use it. And I think boxers have their own little version of trapping. You know what I mean? but that the way they trap in Wing Chung, not that it can't be effective,

anything delivered at the right time can be effective. I remember in the UFC in the early days, everybody said, you know what? Why even bother kicking? You do a high kick, you're going to get knocked out. Somebody's going to take you down, and that's the end of it. So just forget ever learning high kicks. Well, now you're looking at people using high kicks

and they're working because they know when to deliver it. You know what I mean? If somebody's trying takedowns for the first two rounds, they're going to start getting tired and their takedowns aren't going to be effective. That's the time to use a high kick on a guy when he comes in for that takedown. I mean, we saw that hat play out many times in the UFC.

I don't even remember what fight it was, but it's crazy how that shit works. If Bruce Lee was alive today, I think he'd be all over the UFC. I think he'd be a commentator. You know what I mean? It would be glorious. Can you imagine that?

I don't know I don't know I don't know how it would feel because at first I didn't like it at first the UFC when I turned around I saw two fat guys from a bunch of I was furious really when what would you have C was this you know just when it first started one of the first one of the first one like I was such a purist like you know when I quit martial arts I quit and there was another thing like it was like the first time I had to walk away from it not because I was lazy I was I was scared because I had to choose my lifestyle. Where I had to go train at 15 was two bus rides. And those kids didn't do what I like doing at that age. I want to go get Percy. They wanted to train on Saturdays. And Saturday night stay in and watch fucking kung fu movies

and practice the iron bomb technique in their basements and shit. I didn't want to do that. I wanted to get high and get my dick sucked. It's not like I was getting my dick sucked. It wasn't happening. Right. But that's the reason. But you were trying.

And they weren't getting an iron fist either. No, they were staying in. I mean, we were geeks. We'd go to karate from 9 in the morning to fucking one. Then we'd go eat pizza in Union City. And then we'd walk down, you know, it was like an all-day fucking affair. Right, right. Of geekiness.

And then sometimes we got together at night, our parents would drop us off and we'd watch Kung Fu movies or something like that. You know, 11 o'clock at night. I mean, it's, it's, we, you know, if you look at the movies that come out, and even like Jackie Chan, and I happen to love Jackie Chan, and I love kung fu movies and all that stuff, I think it's great. But at the end of the day, I mean, what is truth? What is the truth? And I think Bruce Lee was constantly searching for the truth. What really works?

But at the same time, he was making movies that were far-fetched. You know what I mean? And he knew that. He was doing things in those movies that probably wouldn't work. real life. But he would talk about the truth. You know what I mean? So what he would preach and what he would put in a movie were two different things. You know what I mean? They were not the same guy. One guy was an actor and one guy was a serious martial artist. That serious martial artist is the guy that I really found the most intriguing. But, you know, what is the truth with, you know,

anything can, you know, you heard the old saying, any horse can win on any day. I mean, you know, some pure karate guy old school karate guy could walk into the ufc and win you don't fucking know probably not you know what i mean i mean the the hybrid of of of uh is almost it almost have to have that hybrid thing today that's what blows my mind about damien maya though and you know about damien maya he's one of the few guys that i mean i don't know how much stand-up he trained or where he trained his stand-up. Not a ton of it, I don't think. He's one of these guys that, I mean, just, he's like a John Jock or any jiu-jitsu guy with almost pure jiu-jitsu's come in and rank what up to four or five in the UFC. You know, he hasn't fought in a

while. He's getting older now. He's got a little older. That's pretty amazing. It's pretty amazing. I saw, I saw his hands get better and improved. Right. But they never really matched. But it's one of the few martial arts that still holds up even today in that kind of an environment is Brazilian jiu-jitsu still holds up I am very impressed it you still have to learn how to very impressed and you know what there's more ground than pound I watched fight night last night there was so much grappling and ground and pound there for a while I was seeing so much stand-up stand-up stand-up stand-up stand-up stand-up I'm like damn it looks like K-1 kickboxing this isn't as interesting to me then all of a sudden little by little you know

And I think Kabeb ushered that in a little more, you know. I mean, the guy that has, like, one of the best records in UFC history was ground and pounding. And it's like, you know, he's got something right here, you know. What do you think, or why do you think there aren't as many martial arts movies anymore? Like in the 80s or whatever, there was Jard Clant Van Damme, there was, I'm blanking on his name right now, but the guy who's kind of Russian, he goes to Russia. He still makes movies. They're not that great. whatever it is.

Well, you're going to answer this. It's a UFC, right? Yeah, but I mean, there was still, I mean, there was action movies back in the 80s. There was Rambo and all that stuff, but there was still amongst our movies. Yeah, mate. Billy Jack was off.

Oh, I'm going to put this leg on that side of your head. And there you're going to be a fucking thing you could do about. Lee, this is 1970. 70, they took a deep fucking chance of Billy Jack. And they won. They had them until they took him to trial. The trial of Billy Jack lost me. Yeah.

But Billy Jack. And you know who did the soundtrack? Who? Coven. A band that had a 12-minute black Sabbath. Literally on their record. It was on a record called Blood on the Snow. And the lead singer is a girl.

James jinks. Don't ask me why I know this. My mind is a freaking junkyard. I love it. I love it. Because a lot of people don't even know who Billy Jack was. I forgot it until. And he was fighting for the Indians, man. He was fighting for the Indians. That's what that was about. So it was like 1969. You know, Bruce Lee's already out. People already know about Bruce Lee. America said, we got to get a jump on this. We can't let this get out of control. We could not let a little Asian man. So they trained this guy that was an ex-marine, white dude, that he was a badass. Was he Indian at all? I think he was supposed to be. If he did 23 and me, he failed a test. If he did 23 and me, I think he failed a test. I think I forgot.

See what the guy's name was and what's the, if you don't mind, please, if they give you any background of the guy. He was just a white dude and he fought for them Indian and Lee it fucking skyrocketed But born losers wasn't that the second one? Or was that a different thing? I think it was it was Billy Jack and then it ends with him going to jail Born loser was the first one born loser was the first one okay all right I'm not totally yeah so what years were that? I saw it at the drive-ins.

Yeah, I saw the driving, too. I'm Clifton, New Jersey, off of Rick, three. I saw it, you know, like Carlisle, PA or something. What's the score of the Pittsburgh game? Hit me. I don't know. I'm going to find out. Hit me, baby.

Well, Billy Jack was in 71. Right. That's, and that's two years before Into the Dragon. Right around Chinese connection type. So it was ballsy to release. Ooh, seven. 23 to seven. Steelers.

I love it. It's at the half, though. there's still some football to be played and the guy who played billy jack wrote it and directed it what was his name tom lofflin tom lofflin yeah and i got a friend name time lawfully yeah yeah crazy huh let me see if let me find out if he was really native american yeah that guy was the shit wasn't he i watched that movie the

other night and i like i could put a big smile now hey did you like biker movies because i loved biker movies when i was growing up I don't know. Hell's Angels, 69, all that stuff. But then Joe Namath was in C.C. Ryder.

And William Smith was always in all those movies. C.C. He's a tough guy. And it was also in which way but loose and all that. C.C. That's it. That's it right there. Ah, C.

Yeah. Okay. I remember that now. But what's up with Joe Namath doing these commercials where he sounds like he's from New Orleans? Where's he from? I thought he was a New York guy, right? Joe Namath has gone through a lot of changes leave Joe Namath alone that's a lot of context but his but his accent remember at the end did you see at the end

before he died that poor bastard from America he died no no no oh remember that poor bastard from American bandstand what was his name uh no no yeah yeah Dick Clark Dick Clark yeah at the last new year they had him on I couldn't even believe they put him on well he had a stroke didn't he his head was all fucked up and shit like this so yeah and you know what I do want to do a quick little shout out to Kenny Bond, by the way. I'm sure you heard about that.

One of our Jiu-Jitsu guys. I battled brain cancer for a couple years. He finally passed away a couple days ago. And just, I mean, every street sports school were just all in mourning about it. He was such an awesome dude. And, you know, so I know Nadine, his wife, and, you know, he's got the kids and stuff like that.

They did, uh, I think I put up on my, uh, Facebook page a, uh, a link to the, uh, for a support page that, what do you call it a go fund me? Go fund me. So I hope, I hope people will definitely contribute because, you know, he, it is, you know, yeah, I was, uh, really devastated about that. He wasn't Native American. Told you. He wasn't? No. No.

No. Okay. No. No. He just sold it. He said, he wore the hat. Yeah. He put the hat on.

And he just spoke this. It was what a weird time in America. What a weird. I was a kid. And I remember how, like, that was it. America was back on Trump. He was like Trump in 1970. Like America was back.

He was ready to go. They had taken it back. We were coming back from Vietnam. And we got Billy Jack now. Yeah. Billy Jack was, yeah, he was, that was a badass movie. There was so many cool movies back then, I think. i mean i just maybe it was just because i was so young it's just everything was amazing me you know i still

remember the commercial for the french connection yes fuck yeah my dad took me to see it my mom said no you're not going to see it my dad took me anyway i remember going to see that in the movie theater but the commercial said filmed in new york where it happened when he's walking running up the stairs and wasn't that the first high speed auto chase like ever something like that's pretty famous for editing It's the first, that's the first ever. Yeah, it's pretty cool. I saw that at MoMA in New York. Oh, did you?

Yeah, they were screening it. It was funny. It was great. So wait a second, that's the first time. You know how he chased him underneath the subway? Yeah. And that was the first time they ever shot a scene like that. Really?

Yeah, that was the first one, yeah. And then, of course, Steve McQueen did stuff later. And Steve McQueen took it up a notch. So did fucking Bert Reynolds in the longest yard in the beginning. Hell yeah, he did. With the, whatever. fucking car he was. Yeah.

That's why I'm really in shock that that was the first big car scene. That's crazy. French connection was what year though? That was like 68 or, I mean... 69. Something like that. Let's see here.

Maybe we should play trivial. 71, yeah. If I tell you the reason I went to see that movie, you're not going to believe. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell people at home anyway. Okay. There's a writer called What was his name?

We brought him on this. English. T.J. English is a writer out of New York. And he's an Irish guy. And he wrote a book about the Westies. And then he wrote two books about Cuban culture. And they both... Westies were badass motherfuckers.

I know about us. Then he wrote two books that one's getting done as a TV, 10-part miniseries on HBO. Was that good? and the other one is called whatever the fuck that we had him on here for but in that book he had a bunch of names

of people that I grew up around you know and when he was writing the book I contacted him and he interviewed me on a lot of the people a couple weeks ago I was thinking about the French connection and I go and I called them up and I go can I ask you a question in any of your files

did you read a name of a guy named Louis Abel. In Cuban, that means Louis de Turkey. That was his name. Louis Abel. So when I was a kid,

the reason why I went to see the French connection is because my mother pulled me aside and she goes, come here, go watch the French connection and see if they mention Louis de Paavo. If they don't mention them, the movies are fake. Did they mention? No. But when I talked to

TJ, when I talked to T.J. English that time, The first time he said, no, but let me look through my stuff. About six weeks later, he called back, and he goes, this guy, this Louis Pavo, was never really mentioned, but he was one of the original guys that was putting the Coke on the cars and the heroin and how they were weighing it. That's how they would put it in the car and ship it from France or the United States,

and they would weigh the car so you would have to take something out of the car because they knew the weights of the car they knew the weights of the car up the thing like you know it's what movie will we watch oh the one with Markey Warburg when they were chasing the diamonds the gold around town

Italian Joe? And they could tell by the measurement on the tires if the weight on the yeah oh yeah so they'll cut the tire right open and fucking because that's you know coming across the border I'm going to use a restroom Go ahead, go ahead. I'll take one time just a quick party break.

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What possesses a man to wake up on morning and say, you know what? I'm a Black Mountain Jiu-Jitsu. I've sold millions of fucking records with a band. You know, Worldwide, I'm going to wake up and open up a coffee company. Talk to me. You know what? We were talking about this earlier.

My buddy Garrison, the head of ANR for Drum Workshop, we're such coffee fanatics that we started to get, we bought a little roaster. We're like, let's buy some beans and it's just fucking roast, you know? So we're doing it in the garage on Sunday afternoons, right? watching TV and then we go, we had to do a podcast and have drummers on the show since you work for drum workshop and I'm a drummer, but the rule is that we can't talk about drums.

We just talk about everything else. So we thought it was a great fucking idea. And then he moved, unfortunately. So a couple years later, when I met my girl, we talked about coffee. She was a big coffee connoisseur. We just decided to do it. When she was modeling, she went by TCT-T-N-T, bombs.

And I'm rockets, so that's why it's bombs and rockets. Now, when you talk about a big connoisseur of coffee, when she talks to you about herapaccaque beans and shit like that. Oh, she talks fucking beans to me, bro. Let me tell you something. It's hard. But there's people, I've had discussions with people that know shit about coffee that has blown me to fuck away.

You know what? It's just about taste for me, literally. You know what I mean? I mean, if it tastes good, it's good. You know, I mean. Have you tried the really expensive one where, like, an animal eats the bean and poops it out? I just saw a video about it. It's crazy.

It's like a hundred doors. It's like really expensive coffee per cup. I'm going to have to look at now. We have top models eating ours and pooping it out and then we make it into that. That's the way to do it. Just telling you, you might want to try it. I just, I heard about a beer. Somebody doing that with vaginal juices and making it into beer in Europe.

or something like that. I don't know. I'll drink that shit a day long. I'll pour it all over my face. It's Copi Luwack. It's the world's most expensive coffee. Let me just see how much it costs. But what's the...

What's the catch? It's like a calic animal. From what I read, or what I saw in the thing, it said, they think that the animal chooses, like, the best beans. And if there's some sort of, like... What animal? It's called a Copee Looak. It's kind of like a cat.

That's what they said. Oh, what? People. Listen, the Colombian's been drinking coffee and making you jumping up a noun for 2,000 years. Now they want to show up with a fucking cat that eats a bean.

So it costs $35 to $100 per cup. Well, listen, we just wanted to make a really good cup of coffee, not reinvent the wheel. You know what I mean? That's crazy. That's so crazy. But, you know. $35 a lot because a fucking cat eats the bean

and shits it out, and I'm going to fucking cook it up at the house. You might as well snowmell my farts for free. If you had the same fucking effect. And how much would you charge for that? I hate when people fucking, $2 for sniff. I hate when people really do try and reinvent the wheel, especially to a guy like me.

Like I'm Cuban. I love coffee. The only reason why I don't have diabetes is because I avoid the Cuban-style coffee. Why? What's different? Is it sugar? I have some coffee with your sugar.

Oh, is that it? Yeah, I have some, you know, I love going. Because I know how the Turks do it. Right, you know, stuff like that. I love going to Miami International Airport once every two years and looking at Starbucks, it's a fucking ghost town. You'd have to be an idiot to go into Starbucks in Miami. No, yeah.

Like if you go into a Starbucks in Miami, walk out and shoot you something. Because that's the best thing you could do for your life. Hey, man, you know what? Any city I go into, that's one of the things. And I love Starbucks. No, no, no, no. I like Starbucks. You're not getting me wrong.

I love Starbucks. I love Peeps, whatever that is. Peeps. Peeps. I love them all. What I'm trying to say to you is in Miami, for a dollar 50, they give you a white cup that has six shots of espresso, Cuban style. That your dick gets hard, the hairs where you're bald over here, you can feel them navigating. It's like you snorted a black beautiful.

in the 70s. You can feel your hair moving, your scalp. I swear to God. Give me some of that shit and I'll run home? Yeah, no, no. So a lot of people, that's why I'm saying, when you go to Miami International Airport, you look at like the Cuban restaurant there, there's a line for fucking coffee. You look at the Starbucks. It's a one-person operation. I swear to God. Is your wife Cuban? No, my wife is in Tennessee. But we learned how to make Cuban coffee. They don't have Cubans in Tennessee? Yeah, they're not Cuban food in Tennessee. The problem is the Cuban,

how bad, how good is that? It's sticking around. That's the way most farts dissipate. This is just hanging in the air. This is just for you, like it's like ancient orange or something. This is the worst thing that's ever happened. And it just got you in the corner.

Like, Muhammad Ali had Joe Frazier in 71 in the corner. He just got you over that, he broke a doping. I told you. You're done. You're done. That's direct from fucking, uh,

Miami. Portland, yeah. When did you get back last night? This morning. Oh, this morning. I had two shows last night. He came here just for me. Two shows Friday, one Thursday.

You know, it's so funny. When you were 20, how old were you when you started poison? When you got involved with poison, started poison, like 19? Did you think that at 55 you were still going to be in demand to go on the road? No. No. Fuck no.

No, so, you know, I mean, look at these. Yeah, hit that compressor. Look at these fucking, look at these bands that are going on the road now, these ages. If the stones go on the road, what's the average age of the stones? 70. Who's going out anyway? It's Keith, the drummer. Yeah, Keith, Nick.

That's it. And Nick. Charlie Watts and, uh, no. And Ron Wood. Oh, that's right. Yeah, he got Ronnie. the faces where he's been with him for what 20-some years?

40 years, yeah. And they were all in their seven. And Mick was amazing, Rick June. Yeah, I mean, fuck. I mean, there were just stones. I mean, what do you know? They're all in their 70s.

That's what you're trying to tell. I think so. And they're going to go out in the road and fucking perform every other night. Nick Jagger's going to tear that shit up. He's going to fucking inspire another, you know, decade of

young rockers. like he always has, you know? And Tina Turner inspired him. So what are you going to do? You're going to go? You're going to pay the $800? You got no choice. Yeah, I've got to go.

I'm going to just go by myself, though, because I don't want to pay for anybody else. You're not going to take Renan? No, I'm nobody. Fuck everybody. No, my girl and I will go. Hennat wants to go. He wants to take his wife.

Hopefully it'll work out. I already have a call into management. Nobody's calling me back. You know why? Because poison ain't on the road right now. So nobody, I can't, I can't barter shit right now. You know, it's so weird, you know, it's like, you know, I was talking about this the other day. One platform to another doesn't equate, okay?

Like, we, like, we're so lucky our band, okay? I feel so privileged to be able to be in this band and go out on the road. and play for 10, 12, 14, 15,000 people a night. I mean, we're very lucky to be able to do that at this point in our lives. You're still doing 12 to 15? We're still doing that kind of business. Wow. Some nights there'll be an 8,000 cedar, some nights there'll be a 15,

but on average it's 10 in there. Okay. That's pretty awesome. And that's a headlining thing because we headlined this last time. But I go on, I have a YouTube channel, and it's really hard to grow that channel. Very, very hard. Hard as fuck.

I didn't realize how hard that would be. What's on your YouTube channel? I do mainly vlogs that have to do with motorcycle stuff. And at least motorcycles are always the backdrop. Even if I do, I did one day. I didn't even mean to do it. I got a barbecue grill and the thing was totally fucked up when I got it. So I did a vlog about taking it back and assembling a bar.

barbecue grill. But in the middle of it, I get frustrated and take a ride in the motorcycle and I do this whole thing where I have like GoPro cameras and all this stuff. I always wind up doing something with a motorcycle almost nine times out of ten. However, I just did this one little mystery thing that I did for Halloween. And a old friend of mine that did all the documentaries for Amityville called me up and he said, hey, man, we've got to do something together. Do you have any other stuff? And I said, yes, I do. I'm sitting on a really, really good mystery right now that is absolutely one of the most. And I'm not going to tell anybody right now, because if I do, somebody will steal a fucking idea.

But it's something that happened in another state 40 years ago. And him and I are going to do something on it. And hopefully it'll wind up on a TV show. That would be pretty cool. But I want to ride my motorcycle to it. I don't want to just show up. I'm here. I didn't know you were a big biker guy.

Oh, I have eight motorcycles. I have eight motorcycles in about a dozen mini bikes. I'm out of my mind. I've had 15 motorcycles at one time. I love mini bikes, but my mini bike days ago. I call myself the motorcycle evangelist. I would love to go dirt riding again. I just did it this weekend.

I took the kids. I would love that. And the last weekend, we went out to the desert. Lucy, my five-year-old's riding Jews. quad and Jude has a 110 Kalasaki, he's riding a dirt bike now. I have a 250 and we just all ride together. We go slow, you know, other kids.

But to him, he's hauling ass. I mean, he's doing good. She's doing good. It's so much fun. They get dirty and filthy. I love it. I love it. It's just awesome.

Do you ride motorcycles on the street too? Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely. That's where it ends for me. I did a vlog. Okay. This is one thing I did over the summer. summer. CTC, my girlfriend, her colon's got to come out later this year, or early next year, rather.

She's got a very rare condition that she just has to have it removed her. She'll get cancer. I beat cancer, at least so far. I think I'm good. So, yeah, exactly. So we said, we want to do Sturgis. We want to go to Sturgis. So we flew into Sturgis. bought an Indian roadmaster and rode it back to LA and hit like nine, I think it was nine national parks. We took like two weeks to go and hang out, ride around and just have a good time. And I did a vlog series about it. I think I did like six or seven and eight, eight installments is what it was. Awesome. And I was just watching it like yesterday. I was like, I was reliving it all over again. It was so awesome. I have my girl on the back of the motorcycle and we just fucking

I think we wound up doing like 20, 2,800 miles, almost 3,000 miles on the bike over a period of two weeks. I mean, we just fucking rode and rode and road. It was awesome. Got to do it, man. I want to do it again. But I don't think she's going to be able to do it.

You know, for a while. You're a fucking savage, brother. You really, it doesn't end. It doesn't end with you. And it got hot. Holy fuck, it was 114 degrees going through Nevada. Yeah, that's a nightmare.

That's a fucking nightmare. We had these shirts on that we'd get wet, put them on, and then these cooling vests we'd get wet and put those on. I mean, we're just soaking wet ourselves down and just go like 45 minutes until everything completely evaporated. Then we pull over to another gas station, get everything all wet again and take off again. That's how we did that one day where it was, I'd hardly even vlog because it was, I didn't even want to fucking pull a camera out. I was so hot and miserable. I just wanted to get to where we were going to. But the rest of it was like chill.

I mean, it was, you know, an amazing experience. And she planned everything out. Otherwise, I would have been sleeping alongside the road somewhere because I didn't plan shit. She planned everything. We stayed at all these Airbnbs and, you know, stuff like that. A couple crappy hotels. What's that? This fucking guy always gets a rash of there.

Oh, I got, you know what? I got some fucking serious monkey. but on that right yeah oh fuck yeah and we talk about it too we put so much powder on there was it looked like fucking charlie sheen had a party i mean there was powder fucking fucking fucking everywhere in this hotel room i'm like oh we can't leave it like this right the guy in poison out of party in here did you ride motorcycles as a kid in pennsylvania oh yeah hell yeah i fucking i'm thinking about it now i've been thinking about it from the last year but i just don't know where to go like i don't

want to have to fucking haul my bike. I like to live somewhere. That's why I wanted to move somewhere where I could just have my bike, you know, drive it maybe a mile on an off road and then take it off road. So you want a dirt ride? Yes, I don't want to.

You got to get an enduro. I mean, a plated, but I mean nowadays, excuse me, nowadays some of the endurals like that fucking new KTM six days and 450 or whatever, that fucking thing is a race bike with a plate on it.

I mean, you can go anywhere. And, you know, adventure riding is so big now, like BMWs, you know. No, no. G.S. 1,000, you know, you can go into dirt with them. I still want my... Too big? No, I still love. Remember, I had a...

I went from a Honda mini trail. Which I have, two of, by the way. You still have... I have two of them. Do they have a clutch now? No, neither of them have a clutch. No, no clutch. Three, three on the tree.

That's it. And then I went to... a 75 and then I went to an XL 80 I'm really hell yeah yeah and then I got an Excel 125 Kawasaki had a place right up the corner from me and it was I would be in there every day torture those people do you understand me me and my buddies are going there every day I had a Yamaha 60 that was my first motorcycle Yamaha 60 was a mini cycle it looked like a motorcycle but it was just little you know what

Kind of like what I got for Jude. It looked like that. I had an Indian for a while, too. Oh, fuck. Dude, if you still had that, man, you get those old Indian mini bikes, fuck, there were so much money. It was like 100 Cs. It was only like 100. That's why I didn't get, I only had it for a short time.

They were never good at the dirt bike stuff back then so much. You know what I mean? Neither was Harley Davidson. They never figured that out. No, I was a cowie. It was a high-go and Bocaco and all those. Yeah, I started with Honda, and then I went to a Kawasaki. Then I had a Suzuki for a while, I won something.

And I think I... I had an RM 125. Brett and I bought bikes, and he bought a Kawasaki and I bought a Suzuki. We both bought 125s on one tour, and we compressed the fucking forks as much as we couldn't stick them under the bay of the bus. We pulled out and just go right around the parking lot, try to find somewhere to go off-roading. try to get the bus driver to drop us off somewhere where we can we were into it now yeah that's what i want to do again i really but no those are endurros these days these four-stroke enduros what's an

duro that's a different brand no no no no no and enduro is a bike that it's a dual sport you can ride it in the street you can ride it in the dirt you know and so if you you know you could ride to where you know it's it's a modern-day adventure bike you know what i mean you're i have that this philosophy that your adventure shouldn't start at the back of your truck it should start right at your garage yeah i don't like that i don't want to haul the fucking thing yeah that's my problem leave leave the garage yeah and and so i try to keep that in mind now when you have you know full on two-stroke dirt bikes i mean that you know it is what it is but i'm not a racer i'm not going to race dirt bikes at my age you know and fucking i just want to do 40 and

just go behind some fucking that's what I do now maybe slipping some mud I like that shit yeah I just washed over I got pictures of muddy I mean look at this shit

I don't want to fucking I don't not trust drivers whatsoever on the street I'm done I'm done I hear horror stories every day my heart goes out to Wendley Leemann

she got hit by you're gonna love this picture right here that's my Kalasaki right there I just oh yeah Yeah, Kawasaki, let's the good times, bro. Yeah, but look at what that says.

You let's the good times, bro. That was the fucking... See what that says? Quick as fucky. Oh, quick as fucking, did you? Kawasaki. Unfucking believable. Unfucking believable.

Yeah, no, these... You know, that's what my little girl rides. That's what my boy rides. I got... This shit was filthy when I brought it home, man. So let me ask you question. When we were talking and you were saying that you make the coffee in New Jersey Yes, it's an interesting story this shit you have everything going on well we were going we went TC and I went to a lot of different

Sources to try to find somebody that was reliable that because we just we can't roast ourselves right now We don't have a situation like that and we wound up talking to various people from various companies. And most of them, a lot of them gave us some good answers. And then we wound up talking to A.C., who was with Joan Jett for a long time. And now he's with the misfits. And he's doing dead sled coffee from the same roaster. And he said, look, let me hook you up.

Let's work together. We can do a bigger buy. We can help each other save money. and so we've been working with AC on it and so we did our first order through those guys our blend's different than what they're doing with Dead Sled but we're doing it through the same roaster awesome people by the way

and so I want to fly back there and go see these people soon talk to them I want to do like a signature maybe like a different blend like it's seasonally like every season do something different little little something different maybe a dark or a blonde or something something that's not out there already you know what I mean I want to experiment with you like a darker coffee I do I like strong coffee I like strong coffee that's what I mean I can drink coffee right now go to bed and I mean it's ridiculous I fucking love it yeah fucking love it me too I love I love strong strong this isn't ridiculously strong it's a good strong coffee but you know it's not gonna it's not like you know it's not like death wish or something it's got a decent amount of caffeine

but you can you can drink a couple of cups of it and you're not going to be climbing the walls you got a website for it yeah well we do I do everything through fallen angel customs.net that's my little imprint is falling in any anything that I do any kind of merch

t-shirts I run it we run it all through that so but yeah we have Facebook page bombs and rockets coffee but I sell everything on fallen angel customs.net. And I have my motorist. No, rickie rocket.com. I have a rickeryrocket.com, yeah. Okay.

But it'll just link you to falling angel customs. Okay. That's what it's open. Yeah. I'm like fucking, how would I even know, fucking fallen angel? Yeah, well, you have to have fallen angel.

Ricky fucking rocket. What are the plans, I mean, with all the money that's getting thrown around? Does C.C. me some fucking money. Does he tour on his own or the other guys? No.

Brett does. C.C. does not at this time. What does C.C. do in between? I mean, he's got his son. He puts a lot of time into his boy. And, you know, he's semi-retired. I mean, he just, he's good with doing a, you know, torn once a year for two, three months. And he's good with that, you know?

Now, these guys have a... He takes care of his parents, too. They're not in the best of health. So he's taking care of his boys, taking care of his parents. Is he here full time? He's in Orange County, yeah. Okay.

Yeah, no, he doesn't have a place back east anymore. He was in Philly for a little while. He's like, how the fuck did you guys move out here and I wind up in Philly? But he's out here, yeah, full time. You think you guys will tour again next summer, hopefully? I don't think so. I think next summer it's going to be, you know,

maybe some, you know, private you know gigs like that and that's kind of going to be the extent of it so i'll be focusing more on devil city angels um for next year and my you know my vlog and my coffee and you know the little things that i'm doing with that and just focus on the kids you know i key i never have a spare moment in the day i swear to god a lot of people are always like hey man are you just kicking back i don't even what that fucking word i don't know what that fucking means i really don't i don't that people really get it. Like the level of commitment

that you have to put in, I think that a lot of people really do not understand. It's like when people call me on Saturday nights when I'm doing comedy. Nothing pisses me off more than when people call me on Saturday nights. Like constantly, like,

like, what the fuck do you think is it that I do? Like, why are you calling? And you have a kid too. Yeah. And people will be like, oh, I don't want to call you too early because I know you're a rock guy, so you probably sleep into one. No, no. I have kids. Are you kidding me?

No. The latest I get up is 6.30 a. Yeah, I'm a businessman. And if I want to do anything, I got to get up at 5.30 before the kids get up. Or I'm not going to be able to get anything done. People will be like, man, you're posted. What do you have your shit automatically post on Facebook? No, I'm up.

I'm having my coffee. My Bombs and Rockets coffee. and I'm posting shit. And because now the kids are up, now I've got to take care of it. I'm going to take them to school. I got to do all that stuff. You know what I mean? You put me up this morning as I was boarding the plane.

I was, I bought it at 7.15 or something. Holy shit. Would you go to the airport at 5 a.m.? Probably, huh? No, the plane was 755 and I had the car pick me up at 615. Okay. That's even cutting it close. Got there at a quarter of, no, that's plenty of time.

Where are you at, though? Portland, Oregon. No, no, but I mean, how far are you? From the hotel? 20 minutes. Oh, okay. Yeah, you see me? I'm out in the fucking boondock, so.

Oh, no, no, no. I'm out by Magic Mountain. So for me to get to the airport? No, no, I'm talking about up in Portland. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a 20-minute ride. I got there. I fucking sat down.

I ordered two eggs sunny side up. I always give myself plenty of time. If I can't order those two eggs sunny side up, it ain't going to happen. I got a little piece of wheat toast, two pieces of bacon. I threw away the potatoes. I had some water. I smoked a joint before I got in the fucking car with a cup of coffee from the front.

I do it right. I got a downward system. No, man. I love breakfast. I love breakfast. I love breakfast. I love going to breakfast. God, I have breakfast.

If I don't eat my breakfast, my day is fucking ruined. Yeah, me too. I love those hotel buffets. Oh, fuck, yes. Like when I wake up, you know why? Because I could eat. You know what? sucks is when you get in late on the road and you miss breakfast.

That sucks a dick. I want to punch people in the throat. I mean, I get up purposely. Me too. Listen. I'll go back to bed. I'll go back to bed. Just as long as I can get up and get that fucking buffet, I'm good.

Every Friday and Saturday morning I live for that. That's what I live for. I try the Thursday night. If I fly into it like this week, I flew in Thursday at a, I got to Portland at 122. I went to my room. I rolled the joint. I got the sleep batting machine on.

You know, you get the I Mac, the iPad out. Yeah, yeah. I fucking got my narcos going. I had my feet up. When I leave the club, I always rolled two joints, one before the show

and one for when I get to the hotel. When I get to the hotel on Thursday, and I smoke a joint outside, there's a coffee machine in the hallway that makes Starbucks coffee with your credit card. So I get the large 16 ounce. Holy shit. Fill it up with yellow cancer sugar.

And I go upstairs to my fucking bedroom with a 16 ounce black fucking starboard. That shit ain't going to give you cancer, by the way. No. And I fucking watch TV until, like, you know, 1 o'clock, which it was L.A. time. So 1 o'clock L.A. time is late for Joey Diaz. Oh, me too. That's late. Let me tell you something.

I'm in bed by 10, 10.30 at the latest these days. People see me up by one of them. They're like, are you doing Coke again? Yeah. Because they know I'm not fucking up. No, I have to get the, you know, I got to get the kids to bed when they're with me. Okay. And Lucy, Jude just, when he's done, he's done.

He climbs in bed. You don't even know it. He just all said, Lucy is a whole other game. I've got to make, I got to lay with her and make sure she falls asleep. and it's a whole thing with her. But, yeah, she's five. You know, she gets scared easy. She hears coyotes out there where I live.

You know what I mean? She wants to be with Daddy, so. And I always, and a lot of people are like, oh, you got to get her over that. You got to get over it. It's like she's five. She's, one day I won't be able to lay with her because it'll be inappropriate, you know,

and she won't want it and she'll be too old. Right now I'm cherishing those moments that she looked up, goes, Daddy, is it okay? No, it's just a coyote. He's having a good time. He's trying to find his mom. See, he's quiet now. He's found his mom.

It's amazing the time you have to put in when you have a little girl and what they consider, like, for me and Mercy, it's watching YouTube sometimes. Like, I'll sell her a thousand options. What does she watch? Does she watch these, like, unboxing?

things of toys and shit no no she watches high school ghouls oh okay see lucy can just endlessly watch unboxing of dolls those kids make millions of dollars they're like the most popular things on youtube now no they're that one kid that the american doll girl that i forget what her name chloe i'm not sure forget it forget puty pie this girl's the one that's making the money they get those videos that the dolls just talk to each other she goes crazy and you get to No, they just play. There's one person. Somebody else is playing.

I even told, they go, we should do these videos ourselves. You should. They're making so much money. I would do those videos myself. Oh, my God. Could you imagine a Joey Diaz doll? I would play with a Joey Diaz doll.

I would take it. No, me and my daughter. You got to do this. I was thinking about it. Because I like what. Sometimes she comes up to me. I'll be sitting on the computer. She just, she just gangsters me.

And I'll say, put this on. And I'll put it on. And she's, The way she holds, sometimes she'll take my wrist and put it over her arm, which means you ain't going nowhere. She's got me on like a semi-fucking Camorra. And she holds on to my wrist and she even does things to my wrist so I can't get out of it. Like she'll rub my wrist and shit.

I'm stuck there watching these god-awful videos. Yeah. I mean, god-awful. Yeah, some of them. But you say to yourself, you know what, what are my options? This is what it's about. This is what they want. Yeah.

They don't want Disneyland. They don't want to do. We watch a lot of Peppa Pig and stuff like that. Yeah. Peppa Pig is how funny is Peppa Pig. You know, the YouTube platform is so amazing. I love doing vlogs. And it's like I'm not making any money doing it.

I didn't. I'm famous for what I want to be famous for, playing drums and poison. I started that because I have so many interests that I want to share with people and have a good time with it. You know what I mean? That's why I started doing it. But it's a whole other headspace. It's almost like they don't want traditional media people meddling on their platform a little bit.

Like other YouTubers, there's one guy, suburban delinquent, who is a motorcycle guy. And he does all vlogs and motorcycle. And there's a couple of YouTube. Most of the YouTubers fucking completely ignore me. If I even reach out to him and say, hey, man, I'd go with you. They never even fucking respond. They're just, I don't know what they're. I have no fucking respect.

Oh, I know. It's like, it's like, but, you know, they can't go on tour either like this, you know. Some of them can. There's some of these YouTubers that are doing. If they're doing music, if they already have a talent, it's one thing. But if their talent is only vlogging, that's really as far as that platform goes. You know what I mean? But there are some amazingly talented people if you dig into YouTube,

What's so, oh shit, I'm sorry. What's so cool is that if there's a girl in the middle of Iowa, who's 16 years old and can sing her ass off and play guitar, she's got an equal chance at a shot these days of getting the world to hear her as somebody did years ago that had to find some way to get somebody interested or maybe never get a shot. You know what I mean? That's one cool thing about the platform that I think is so fascinating. or somebody in the middle of Germany or somewhere in the world. It's like equal. You know what I mean? I mean, how cool is that?

That amazes me. And I wait for those things. That one band, BLS or whatever it is, that BTS. Right, yeah. They're Korean, right? Something like that. Yeah. Just out did Taylor Swift.

I mean, the biggest amount of views like ever in history, insane. Insane. The thing I like the most about the internet that I don't think people really realize is that you're alive. You have a voice now. Right. You don't have no excuse. There's no excuse. There's no, I can't get my art in a gallery, you know, put it online and fucking promote it.

I mean, your word, you know, I mean, when we were growing up, you had to have a fucking CB to get the word out. Yeah, breaker one nine. Anybody out there, any truck is out there? Hello, hello, this is the flying Cuban. Anybody out there? You know, now. Let's pick up chicks on the CB. Yeah, I mean, you know, if I was a 13-year-old kid right now,

there's no reason to even go to USC, the media school no more. I mean, listen, you know, everybody has access to a camera like this or the phone or something like that, you can tell a story. Now, it doesn't mean you're going to tell a story. We've all had paper and pencils. It doesn't mean you're going to write a great book, but you have the ability.

You have the ability. That's what I live the most. Whether it's going to be good or bad, that's up to you. And you don't have to worry about that. That's not important. The most important thing is that you get whatever you have on your mind or in your heart out.

And you can honestly say, I tried to get it out. 13 people watched. but there's 13 people know the fuck I am. Right. That's what's nice. I mean, I have a small channel, but the people that are there are very focused. There's a lot of people that, you know, people are throwing me some cool gear and stuff like that

because they're like, at least I know the people that are watching and they're going to look at this gear. So there's a local motorcycle shop. I'm going to do some reviews for them on some of their new bikes. And it's building. It's taking time. You know what else is nice? It's like the reason why I go to Jiu-Jitsu. I go to Jiu-Jitsu.

I don't go there to be Bouchetcha or to be John Jock. You know why I go to Jitsu, bro? To be a fat guy in the back, that's just a fat blue belt in the back. It's nice to have that feeling once in a while. You can't be Ricky Rock at every fucking day. No. I can't. Could you imagine if anybody who talked to you, all they talked to you was about fucking drumming?

I know you love drumming. I know you. love percussion. But can you imagine every fucking body who came up to you was, can I ask you a question? When you were writing every rose, as it's thorned, how was your input? Can I just be Ricky, can I just be fucking a brown bed

with the rock? Dude, this is why I do this for this. This is why I can do it. I love you that. Now, I do other thing. Sometimes I'll do a drum thing or I'll do a little song. Once in a while. That's your life. But I, but that's that's my work. Okay. And I don't hate it. I love my work. But I don't necessarily want to talk about it all the time.

Here's other stuff I want to talk about. And if it falls short and people aren't into it, then they're not. But, you know, I'm trying. My son is at the age now. He's starting to know who I am and my impact for better or for worse on the world. Like, he'll listen to a band and he'll go, is, are they more famouser than you? I don't know, Jude, you know. It's like, that's a hard one to answer.

But he's starting to get it. He's starting to get it. And that's kind of weird a little bit. It's like we're talking at the very beginning. I don't know if we were on the air when we were talking about it. We're talking about how Hollywood is just littered with the ghosts of past actors and their kids and their siblings and everybody. You know what I mean? It's so weird.

You know, don't you know who my dad was. And I don't want Jude or Lucy to ever live in my shadow for better or worse. For better or worse. I want them to stand on their own. You know what I mean? I want them to be their own person and be loved for their... Like the guy in the wallflowers, they never... He never talks about his dad being Bob Dylan.

I mean, he's fucking wallflowers or the fucking wallflowers. With or without Dylan, his kid. You know what I mean? I mean, that's kind of cool, you know? That's important. That it really isn't. And I want that for Jude. Sure.

Will it help him that I have some of these connections and stuff? It may or it may not. So, you know, sometimes people prejudge it right off the bat, you know? Sometimes they don't want, you know what is so weird? I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this earlier today when I was washing my truck. Sometimes I just like to wash my truck because I don't trust anybody else to do it, right? I was thinking that, you know, in the 70s, for example, when a musician had something to say,

A lot of people would look at that musician and go, well, I like their music. I like the subjects they talk about and those things ring true. I'm going to take what they have to say with a little bit of weight. You know what I mean? So if they're protesting something, I really want to know what they're thinking about. I'm kind of with them on that. You know, maybe they have a good point. Nowadays, it's like, you're the show monkey, so don't fucking opinionate on anything.

Just do your job and shut up. that's how it's getting a little bit I think that's weird and I think that's sad you know what I mean it's like if somebody doesn't agree with De Niro saying something about Trump let's say

which he's been outspoken about that then all of a sudden De Niro's a shitty actor now his days are gone he can't say anything bad about the Niro come on really you may not like what he's saying about Trump but I just feel like it's the opinions of people have changed

They don't want to hear anymore. Musicians are back to, like, way back into the 40s now where we don't want your opinion. Just give us a show and shut up. You know what I mean? It was so much more influential in the 60s and 70s. But we're not there anymore. We're back. You know, we've been pushed back.

Nope. It's hard to get people to want to hear anything that I have to say unless it has to do with music. You know what I mean? Have you noticed that or am I alone in this? Are you too high to know? I know. I've, you know, it's like when a fighter is a fighter and he gets into movies. People watch him because he's a fighter in a movie.

It's a fighter. Right. But a lot of fighters will get out of fighting thinking they're going to have a movie career afterward. it. Right. And it's very tough. They have to still be fighting. Actors, it's hard for actors to make the switch to music. Johnny Depp, one of the most famous actors in the whole world. I mean, he's one of the few people that have been able to cross over a little bit. But it's not like he has a number one selling record, you know what I mean?

But he's playing out with Joe Perry and Alice Cooper, you know, he's doing the Hollywood vampires thing. At least he's able to live out that part of his dream. but it's very, very hard for actors to switch over. But between you and I, okay. Let me tell you some. Right now, I got a Hollywood dream, too. I would love to play fucking music. I would love to play the bass or whatever.

Let's pretend tomorrow I went and fucking got a guitar and I went three fucking chords or whatever. And all of a sudden I got into a movie and I got really popular. You know, sometimes it's just, it's like when Don Johnson made an album. it's very tough to take an actor to just, like,

yeah, that was driving and I heard Jennifer Lopez music. And I remember when that album came out, thinking to myself, who told fucking Jennifer she could sing? Right, right. And she's a successful setting her. I'm putting it down. It's very tough to win over.

Especially guys like me that are old school. Katie Seagall. That girl has an incredible voice. You know what I mean? You know, from... Suns Antigee? Yeah. Really?

She did half of the soundtrack of Sons of Anarchy. She's an incredible singer. A lot of people don't know that. I know if she goes on tour, I didn't know what the fuck she was talking about. Yeah, she's phenomenal. Yeah, she fucking tears it up, dude. Yeah.

You wouldn't know it, you know. But yeah, it's hard to make the crossover. I mean, I remember reading an article not that long ago that was talking about bands in the greater Los Angeles area 30,000 organized and some disorganized bands, okay? 30,000. I don't think there's 30,000 clubs in the United States that you could go play at. I mean, where all these musicians going?

You know what I mean? I mean, it's competitive. Everybody wants to be a rock star, you know? It's a bitch. Just to make a living doing it is hard. just to figure out how to make a living. You must know this with comedy. Fuck, that's a lonely job, man.

I don't know how you do it. That takes some intestinal fortitude. You get all my respect, I'll tell you. Walking out on that stage and trying to get people to laugh and shit, fuck, that's fucking tough. That's tough. That is tough. I can't even imagine.

And it's so weird how what I'm doing on stage now is the results of the work I put in the 90s. and we're being close to 2020 and I'm seeing the results from the work I put in the 90s now so it's such

it's the journey brother yeah the journey is it's a beautiful fucking journey and you either pick a good one or you can pick a bad one you have a choice so you can make a fucking great journey you know sometimes I do these acoustic

gigs with Brandon Gibbs as singer for Devil City Angels. We're just doing acoustic gaiters. Just be him and I. He plays guitar, I'll play a cone, or something like that. And we'll tell us some stories in between, and I'm always laughing and telling jokes. I like to tell jokes. But I can hide behind the instrument

at the end of the day. At the end of the day, if nobody's laughing, it's like, okay, next song. You know what I mean? And it's the end of it. With you, if it ain't working, man, I mean, what do you do? You know? I mean, you can't get mad at people. You know?

I mean, that's like counterproductive. You go through different phases of your journey. The first two years you blame the audience. You know, there's always a blame until you become a comedian, accept it, and just be better the next day. It's a horrible feeling to bomb. Oh, I bet. It's a horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible feeling to bomb.

Did you ever have, have you ever been on stage and bombed with a band? Oh, yeah. What's bombing with a band like? It sucks. I remember I was just telling this story not long ago. Brett and I were in another band that we played a four-wheel drive convention in Williamsburg, Pennsylvania. What year was this? Oh, God.

81 or something like that, you know. And the only time they clapped is when we said we were taking a break. You know. and now I'm a four-wheel guy right but um it's just yeah no it sucks man when you bomb that hard or when people just don't react at all and I think that's what made us work so hard because we had to work so hard back there to get a reaction you know um and especially in pennsylvania yeah you got to work real fucking hard yeah that's that's why you know I think we belong in a category of our own. We always said that we were the

blue collar glam band. You know what I mean? Here we were you know, we definitely weren't a dandy, you know, as they would say in England. You know, my dad was a taxi driver, you know, how glamorous could I really be? But we fooled everybody. You know, I like that we, our work ethic is really what what drove it and I think still does. We still have a great work ethic. When this band gets together, we work our ass off.

How long do you rehearse before the tour starts? But usually about two weeks, you know, something like that. And several of those days are just figuring out your instruments. You know, trying to get everything to work together, just sussing out your sound, getting your text to be on board. You know, a lot of it's production. And I don't go on. on stage nervous because I can't play

the songs because I've been playing these songs a long time. So I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about something not working right. You go out on stage and something fucking fails. I'm always worried about the thing that I can't control. And that's the

thing that makes me nuts. That's probably why I have OCDs because I can't control every aspect of it. Does it happen a lot? Oh, every, you know, it's always going to happen the first show, at least. You know, And then you start to get used to it. Everything's going.

You're cruising along. And then you drop your guard. And that's when it happens again. You know what I mean? As soon as you drop your guard, something wrong happens. How many shows are you doing this last tour? Not that many. We only did like 36, 38, something like that.

Damn. Yeah. So it was only like eight, seven weeks or something. We were doing five nights a week. Oh, man. On a bus? Oh, yeah. I love my bus.

Are you kidding me? It's your old bus? I got my own bus. I don't own it. We lease our buses. But when we hit our 20-year anniversary, we went now, we got a, in order to keep doing this, we need a little space if we can make it happen. Motley Crew was doing it, Aerosmith.

So we did it. And I could stay out there, honest to God, if it wasn't for my kids, I could almost just perpetually stay on the road. I got a trailer with my motorcycle in it, some of my shit. I don't need a hotel most of the time. Sometimes I get up in the morning, go in and do the buffet, come back out to my bus. All my clothes are there, all my stuff's there. I love, I love.

Do you have a shower in the bus? Yes, all that. Bathroom, shower, bed. It's fantastic. So when you guys travel, each of you have your own bus. Yeah. Yep. That's how we do it.

Because then people will be like, man, aren't you, you guys are like brothers. Like, what happened? And it's like, I love my sister. I don't want to live with her. Love her to death. I don't want to live with her. I love Brett, Bobby, and Ceasy. Don't want to live with them.

I see him on stage. I see him in the morning at catering. You know what I mean? We'll play a little football in the afternoon. Go out and do a sound check and do the show. That's good. We don't have to be in each other's faces 24-7. That's not good.

Trust me. And everything's changed. more drinking i mean there's no more you know yeah i mean i can drink i don't so much because of what i went through it it actually hurt burns you know so i don't drink anymore very rarely um uh i don't think you know brett's diabetic so he can't drink now bobby and cecy are both sober so so they don't drink completely they're totally suzzi had no fucking cecy is not and has not thank god thank god he would have died i mean the fact of the matter is and when you get to that level one or two things is going to happen you're either going to die or you're

going to stop either way you're going to stop you know what I mean because you can't just keep doing it how long has he been sober for about nine years at least yeah something like 11 I saw him his kid changed everything for him and you hear about this you know oh my kid change it it really did it changed it he gave up all that shit to make sure he was there for ballot he's a good dad he's a you know Bobby same thing he's he's he's he's he's there for his kids, you know. You have to be.

Yeah. You have to be. And Brett's never been able to party to that same. I mean, you know, he parties, but not, he can't drink like a fish. I mean, we did all that shit in the early days. He did it in spite of being a diabetic. I mean, there were his times where I was like, fuck, he's going to die. You know what I mean?

And I think he went, yeah, I can't do this or I'm going to die. Yeah, we all. You know? And so what's more important going on stage and playing or do? that until you can't do it anymore and we made the choice we want to keep playing and it's not easy it's you know i mean you're insulated as a rock guy i mean i could do any drug i wanted and i'm never going to get caught for it probably i mean i'm in that tour bus or i'm back you know wherever i got security i'm insulated i can fucking do drugs till the cows come home i can just

obliterate myself the only people are going to care that i'm alive or the promoting motors and managers and people that want me to get on that stage every night. You know what I mean? But the minute that tour is over, I'm back to me caring about myself. You know what I'm saying? And that's where people go down that rabbit hole when all of a sudden there's nobody there picking you up and going, no, no, no, no, you've got to get up. You can't, you know.

You just that's when it really can go bad for people. So, you know, thankfully for me, I just never, I think I think I experimented so much stuff when I was younger that I just didn't care about it when I got to this place, when I got to the point where we were touring. I did party. I ain't going to lie about it. But I never got addicted to anything but cigarettes, you know. That was the only thing I ever got, and girls, I got very addicted to girls. But I didn't get addicted to drugs. I just didn't care about Coke like everybody else did. That would have taken me the fuck down. because when I'm into something, I'm fucking into it.

I mean, I'd have scales and all this shit. I mean, when I smoked a lot of pot, I had every fucking pot thing that you could imagine. I was like stamping, making leather, fucking clips and shit. I mean, I was into it, man. If when I get into something, I get massively into it. I have a very addictive personality. Thank God I'm not addicted to any drugs.

Because if I was, I'd be dead. I'd be fucking dead. That got all of you guys are still together and you can still do your thing and nothing bad happened to end the band. A lot of bands end with a bad ending. I mean, it's tough. It's tough.

Yeah, it's tough. It's fucking tough, man. But I mean, it's tough to hold a band together. We've been together 32 years, almost 33 years. It's hard to hold it together, you know. As mad as I get at these guys, And I get fucking mad at these guys. You know, I can't get them to do what I want them to do, you know?

But I still respect them. And that's the bottom line. At the end of the day, I think we have respect for each other, even if we're fucking mad at each other. I could be mad at Brett for two fucking years. I'm still going to respect them, you know? Because if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be where I'm mad. If it wasn't for me, he wouldn't be where he was. I mean, you know, we were, you know, I come from a place.

Okay. Where a band is a gang with instruments. Okay. And there's loyalty there. Today, bands are too interchangeable. But I think the members are too interchangeable. People look the same. One guy jumps from one band to the other.

There's not the commitment. You know what I'm saying? I like when a band looks like a fucking gang. And that's what I think we came from. And, you know, Motley Crew was like that. You know what I mean? Van Halen. You know, Marilyn Manson, I mean, if you shave your fucking eyebrow, you know, I mean, do something over the top so that it's cohesive, you know, because I believe that everything comes from your attitude.

Your attitude makes you play, you set a soundtrack to your attitude. You talk and do interviews from your attitude. You look the way you look because of your attitude. That's the core thing. You know what I mean? Is that attitude thing. And I think it's sorely missing from music these days because people are looking and gone, I don't know what kind of music I want to do.

I just want to play something. I'm good with whatever it is. And then maybe I should come up with some kind of an image and they get it all fucked up. You know what I mean? And it's like, no, guys, start at the core. At the core. Where are you at, really? Are you an angry guy?

Are you a happy person? Are you, you know, what is it that really rings true? And then start to build your whole story out of that. You know what I mean? I want my music. If I'm angry, I want my music to be angry. I want my clothes to look like it because I want to talk like this. This is who I am.

I can look in the mirror every day and do it. I don't have to remember anything because I'm telling the truth every day. You know what I mean? To me, that's what a real rock? band does they tell the truth every day you know what i mean and i look at so many musicians today and it's like wow it's just so calculated yeah i i can't buy into it if i'm buying into it i'm buying into some social media guy that's sitting somewhere else coming up with this shit you know what i mean um you know i come from the basements of fucking the east coast where we went and hacked it out

you know what i mean that's that's that's what it's really about that's why those all those bands are so great you know i mean i'm looking at black sabbath right there you know these guys fucking and you know they didn't come from the from the swanky part of fucking england i mean they were grinding it out man with the rest of everybody but music was the most important thing to them you know and they would sacrifice for it that there's a certain personal sacrifice i've always said that real true art and i know i'm just blabbing here but real true art has got to come from a personal place. And I think it does with you,

and I can see that in your stand- But it took years. That's the other side of that thing. It took years. It took years. You guys, it happened with poison also. It takes years to get those layers off. Yes.

It's not a lot of people who want to tell the truth. Listen, there's not a lot of people who want you to know who they are. Now, 50% of people really want you to know who they are. You know, what's going on now with music is, and I think it's society. We all have costumes. Oh, yeah.

Everybody's got a fucking costume now. I've never seen more of a society with a costume. There's more costumes. Yeah. When I was growing up, you had an afro, you had long hair, or you had short hair. That's it. You had an afro, you had short hair,

or you had the pick in there. Or you had long hair. The pick hadn't even come along yet, you know? I love that. Now I got guys, it's 90 degrees, you're wearing a ski cap. So I got to be impressed with your music. You know, it's like they sell so many different things that once I see that, I get turned off.

Like, I'm done. Well, I think a lot of people wear things and stand behind an attitude, but they don't even know what it means in the first place. You know what I'm saying? Nothing burns me up more. than some pop, total, total pop star, wearing like a Metallica shirt. I was like, you know, any fucking into Metallica?

What are you doing? No, no, no. You know, I mean? It's like, you know, come on. It's just, it's become a fashion thing. It's become some way of, isn't that queued, you know what I mean? It's like, two years ago,

they had like two lineups that played down there. And I don't know what they wanted for the tickets. My friend Josh Wolf went. And he said the same thing. He goes, there was a lot of people down there. that paid the $500 that didn't even know why they were down there. Didn't know who the who was, didn't know who the stones,

where they just bought the T-shirt for $48 at the door and went in there to see, be somebody. Well, that's what I try to remember. There's a lot, you know, with a lot of these younger people, they don't know who poison is. Some do, some don't. Only if they decide that they want to learn about it. Like a lot of people don't know who Bruce Lee is.

Okay, we'll go back to that beginning, okay? We didn't know who Wolfman Jack was. Oh, shit. Two weeks ago, I said to him, I had some Wolfman Jack asked. Shell for the Wolfman. He's going to reach your record high. It's really weird when you... It's really weird when you talk with you.

I'm not mad at you for it. No, yeah, no, I'm mad at him. No. Can I be mad at him? Yeah, you can call him what you want. It's just weird that... Boop Man, Jack. A couple weeks ago, but I was playing Jersey.

And my buddy's a long showman. And he goes, I'm getting off. I'll swing by to see you. And he came by and we had dinner at the hotel. And then he went home. But he says, he was walking to his car. He saw a young kid from work. And the kid goes, what are you doing?

And he goes, I came to meet my buddy for dinner. He goes, what are you doing? He goes, I'm here to see Joey Diaz. He goes, that's what I was having dinner with. So now the kid bothers him. So he said a couple weeks ago, Dice was playing in Fort Lee or in one part of Jersey. And he went up to him. He goes, you know, Dice is.

in Fort Leithland. The kid's like, who's that? And he goes, so wait a second. You know who this old guy is, Joey D? You know what I'm saying? Like they just, oh, no, no. I was talking to a friend of mine that does your showrunner. He's doing the Ice, Ice Tea show, you know, the true crime show.

Right, right, right, man. And people today don't know that he was an influential, serious fucking rapper. They know him from, what, CSI or what show was he on? Order. Law and Order. That's what they know him That's the guy from law and order You believe he's doing

Not the rapper I see him as the rapper I mean this You believe he's doing New Year's Eve With Ozzy His band is doing New Year's Eve Ice Tears? Yeah what's name of that band?

What's the name of that band? He brought that band back? Yeah, go look it up Ozfest They're doing fucking New Year's Eve What the fuck was that band? That really good album Yeah.

That really fucking good album. Yeah, it was like heavy metal. Yes. Yes, he was phenomenal. Yeah. Body count? Body count. Yeah.

Are they doing new? Was it bodies hit the floor? Was that? No. Oh, my God. That song. I should know this. I want to be watching.

You can fucking lambas my ass for not knowing this. Forgive us, Guy. You know, you have so much on your mind. You can't remember everything. You can't remember everything. But yeah, fucking body count. Is it with iced tea? Yeah.

The Ozfest debut of Body Count featuring Ice Tea. Yep. And you fucking believe that 20 years later. I go fucking see that. Are you kidding me? Yeah, it looks like a good lineup. Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, Jonathan Davis, and Body Count at the form. The only problem, it's only will be 12 hours.

Holy shit. You know, by the time, I think it starts like, what time? Let's see here. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. And I was telling the story that somebody called me and said, hey, we have a function. We're really interesting. you were playing it down New Year's and I told my wife she said ah what do you got to lose like

they go it's 10 30 though we want you to go on between 1030 and 11 I was like you know what guys I thought about and I'm like I really don't like going up that late on new years if I do anything it's at the ice house early and two days later they announced this and I'm like thank god you know you know one one thing I wanted to talk about too that I forgot to mention when we were talking about earlier like you know something just had that feeling to it and all that kind of stuff we played uh bethled new york where woodstock was and i did a vlog about it okay because i was so moved by the whole thing i was not a woodstock i was too young my sister wanted to go my sister is nine years is nine years older than me and um so i took a tour of woodstock like where

the whole thing happened. And I called the vlog sacred ground because they've made it like a monument literally now. Have you ever been there? Bethel, New York is really a nice place, by the way. Beautiful. Somebody who lives close to that. I have a friend who lives

close to that. And he told me about that they restored something. Oh, it's beautiful. And they have a museum there, and they have all kinds of art. And I mean, it's just totally worth it going for the day and hanging out.

If there's a concert up there, go to it. I mean, it was great. So I did a vlog about it called Sacred Ground, and I tried to insert, like, the crowds from Woodstock in the areas that I was standing in, like, where it would have been and where the stage was. There's a little controversy exactly where the stage was. But you can tell by some of the tree lines and stuff like that, they've got it pretty much figured out, you know what I mean? But how cool, man.

Just, you know, you get a feeling. I mean, there were plenty. There's plenty of festivals, but that one was truly fucking special. I bought a drum kit. I love Roger's drums, and I brought a drum kit from a guy who was a drummer in a band called Eternities Children. And in 1969, they broke up, right?

Or maybe in the 70s, but in 69, they had their first hit. That's when the drum kit was from. He didn't play. When the band broke up. up he just put the drums in a closet didn't touch him i bought him from them what two three years ago fucking awesome right they were supposed to play woodstock they turned it down wasn't enough money and they didn't like the time of day so they said fuck it we're going to go to atlanta and play it club we'll make more money so they didn't do woodstock he told me this whole story and can you

imagine what it completely changed everything but it's just it's just where there's so many stories like that they were trying to you know there was like that band sweetwater you know but i i was like man somebody needs to do a fucking documentary when your band because they actually had two songs that were almost hits they were like in the top 30 or it's top 20 or something like that a lot of eternity's children look them up it's kind of crazy i didn't know anything about it never heard of him until but he signed a fucking head for me i have that drum kit it's kind of cool Bricky Rocket, always a fucking pleasure. Always a pleasure.

Always. You always come up with something fucking interesting. Oh, I can talk and talk, man. I'll put people to sleep. I had a girlfriend that almost fucking put to sleep driving one time. You just abandon knowledge, man. That's why I love you to death.

Well, we got a train. We didn't talk about Jiu-Jitsu Harley-O. We talked about other martial arts and stuff like that. And next time, maybe we'll talk. talk about Jitsu a little more. But you said you were going to come and you did. You were a man of your word. You came. You're fucking trained.

You had a good time. You didn't know. You fucking worked me that day. That was a real private. Hey man, sometimes sometimes he gets a fucking, that was nothing to some days he gets a hair up his ass.

But he always fucking respect first from that man. And not, Renato Magno is one of the i respect that man as much as anybody could respect anybody i'm telling you he's just privates every day almost every day every day yeah different people different time still with danny there's privates with danny i mean he's teaching danny he's teaching yoda you know that's pretty badass that's fucking i don't know if danny would like me calling them yoda but to me that's the biggest

compliment you can pay somebody you know what i mean when i walked into that that's the second time i've seen it when i shit my pants i had to do everything i can just to keep it together because i know exactly what and who he was no oh i know we could you can go on game of death and watch you know he turned him on he turned bruce leon all that shit all those weapons and stuff that's fucking crazy he was a gym teacher you know that like at a high school or something danny was or a college or something i hope i'm getting this right he's a pretty amazing dude you really is you know what they did one time and i'll just wrap it up with her uh castes was telling me cast magda was telling me that at one point bruce got interested in how hard

football players were able to hit another guy and take him down okay he wasn't just interested in the wrestling aspect he thought well if i can fucking hit somebody that hard imagine what i can do if i try to hit him wrestle him and then beat him on the ground this is what bruce was thinking about So Danny got one of those What do they call them that you fucking Sleds? Yeah. And it's in Bruce's backyard.

They practiced on these fucking things. This is how forward thinking he was about all this kind of stuff. And Danny's got all this rolling around in his head. You know what I mean? It's just There's so much. This is why I don't do drugs anymore

because there's so many neat things to do and learn about it. awesome. It would just, shit would get in the way, right? You're a fucking animal, brother. Always a pleasure. Give me a line, please. No, I'm kidding.

Anytime you're free and you want to come down. And I'll try to see you after the 19th. I'm going to come down there. Okay. I try to see you. Once I come back from New York, I'm going to have a lot more time to, like I said, I'm barely getting in twice a week at my place.

And I'm embarrassed about it. I like trying to get in three years. four times a week i do too i've been like doing two and three's a good week for me and it sucks because i lose timing and all kinds of shit i do the muay conditioning twice a week and i also do power strength lifting with a lady a coach twice a week just to keep you know 55 see the road will fuck you up if you're not prepared for the road oh yeah you know your hips your knees your back hell yeah flying the driving the

sitting, it's rough, it's fucking rough. It beats you up in a way, so I've been really taking it serious lately. But man, any time you want to come on here and just chit-chat, this is your second fucking home. I love you to death. Hanat said he was going to come down. I gave him the address, but he didn't show. I'll call him tomorrow. I'm going to call him tomorrow anyway.

I like to get him on the podcast. I'm scared to look at the score. 30-30 and the fourth with 4-10 remaining. Jesus Christ. Oh, come on. 60 fucking points. Wait a minute. Touchdown. Stealers, watch touchdown. What? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Am I updating now? Come on. Update, update, update.

That's a fan right there. Oh, yeah, of course. That's a fucking fan right there. Come on, what's up here? I want to thank my man, Ricky Rocket. Thank you for having me, man. I want to thank the Flying Jew, the original Christ Killer, the Thriller from Manila. Lee Syatt will be with me this weekend in La Jolla, opening up the motherfucking

show. I'm so excited. I'm excited that you're coming, Cucksucker. And that's it. I'll see you guys. Thursday morning Tip Top Magoo. Love you. Stay black. Have a great fucking day. Tell them all to suck your dick. All right. I want to thank my man Ricky Rocket. I want to thank the Christ Killer. But most importantly, I want to thank you motherfuckers on a Monday morning for supporting the church and for listening and for hanging out with us. Listen, as usual, we got sponsors. All right? The holidays are here and it's a busy.

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