The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #654 - Bruce Buffer

Episode Date: January 30, 2019

Bruce Buffer, the voice of the UFC, poker player, and the host of the "IT'S TIME!" podcast, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio! This podcast is brought to you by:   Hims - Go to ForHi...ms.com/joey for a trial month of everything you need to keep your hair - for just $5.   My Bookie - Join now and MYBookie will match your deposit with up to a 50% bonus of your first deposit up to $1,000. www.mybookie.ag. Use Promo code CHURCH to activate the offer.   Recorded live on 01/27/2019.


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Starting point is 00:02:36 Here we go, cock suckers. A little Duran Duran to get your Wednesday morning going. Bruce Bucker, the Christ Killer, and your uncle Joey Diers on a Wednesday morning. Talking shit. Here we go, Coxuckin' dick it. Do you guys like to get up in free bass? Here's your song.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Oh shit. And all the while I think of you, motherfucker. Let's do this shit, let's do it, baby. Get me jacked up here. Bruce Buffer. Joey Diaz.
Starting point is 00:03:42 A fucking king of poker. How come you weren't in rounders? How do you fuck did you not get rid? Even Lenny, everybody was in rounders. Everybody was in rounders, but back when they made rounders, that was really before I took off, you know, in my poker world. How long have you been playing poker?
Starting point is 00:03:57 My dad taught me how to play poker when I was nine years old. He taught me how to play poker, which back then was a five-card draw, seven-card stud. He taught me how to play blackjack, and he taught me about horse racing. And he said, son, the only way to follow a horse with a shovel, don't bet on him, right? So I never went to the track a couple times, had a great time, but I've never been a horse better. You notice when you go to the track, with all respect, is some of the saddest-est-looking people walking around the track. It's like, Monarchy, though. Yeah, they got a big head.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah. It's crazy. So I started playing cash games with my brother Brian when I was 14. And during the summertime, we play a lot of caddies from the local country clubs who I'll have, you know, good money. And I started making some money. And Brian made a good amount of money. And actually, with the money, he made in the poker games when he was 18, he took himself over to Europe for a couple of months, you know, and had a good time. My dad was always, you know, telling us about street knowledge.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You know, we touched on it earlier, but my dad was. old breed sure your your dad was like that just like your old breed I'm a little bit old breed raising a kid back then was a lot different you know now we their faces are in the screens fortnight's causing issues with families divorces everybody's on and on and on it needs be managed totally differently and back then where with all respect the kids are on the screens not getting better at their communication skills they're all into the technology which is fantastic but I think it's also causing some issues I think in 10 years you're going to have a hard time finding somebody's going to be able to walk in a room and close a deal, make a sale, you know, like a salesman, right?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Because communication skills are going to be tight. When you were a kid and I was a kid, man, I was riding my bike to baseball games. I was playing baseball to five o'clock. I was going downtown. Five o'clock. Five o'clock. I was up, I was out till nine. Me too.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Okay, now we're talking. You went out at eight. You stayed out until dinner. Yeah. My mom would make me come up at lunchtime to be civilized just to slow my heartbeat down for 20 minutes. You know what I'm saying? Because by that time, you were already torturing. somebody it was a full day slate yeah you know with a ball stick ball johnny rider pony uh hop peas
Starting point is 00:06:02 and butter go get your mother and walk to the corner and shoplift and then go up and throw eggs at mr martini and then fucking mr softy would come and then go upstairs eat dinner and then if you did good at dinner your mom will let you go out as so as long as you stayed in front of the house till nine o'clock and you would take chances you knew when she was going in the shower so you that would give you a chance to run around the corner and my whole thing is like I used to run across Broadway in New York City right and I look at my daughter she's six she'll even run across fucking you know what I'm saying here I am running my mother would say don't cross Broadway yeah and I would run across Broadway with my friends with no lights there was no hand then no there was no 10 seconds
Starting point is 00:06:46 or but you know take your time nothing yeah but back then you know it's we live in the world of stranger danger these days right and it's like there's no way you can let your kids run free like that. It's a different world and it's a different time for raising. But I thought, I'm not saying that it's bad the way the kids are being raised because we have to adjust the way technology goes. But I think that they're not being raised as tough as we were as kids, but even tougher the generations before me. Every computer at the house has a timer. In your house? Yeah. Yeah. For her purposes, my purposes, my wife's purpose. Right. My timer is my back. I have an hour to six.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And then I have to do something for an hour. Then I have to come back for an hour. I'm trying to write a book. That's my, for my daughter, I get her out. There's a rule at the house. She's got to be out by nine. If there's no school, I want her out of there by nine, burn out of energy.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Nine in the morning. Yeah, right. I'm going to have her work in the same way I did. She's already doing chores for the mother. Good. She's got a vacuum in, clean, and dust, and she gets, I don't know how much from her mother. You know, there's little things,
Starting point is 00:07:51 just because the world's changing. doesn't mean I have to change. No. Just because the world's change doesn't mean I'm going to take a text message. No. You could text me to your face is green. You hate text. I won't.
Starting point is 00:08:01 You don't text. No. I think you even say it on your answering machine. Don't text me. No, no. Used to. I don't even leave a message no more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I don't even, I don't leave them. I don't give a fuck. I know the numbers. If you text me and I don't know the number, you, listen, if you text me, you got no chance. Right. But if you text me and I don't know your number, you really got no chance.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Oh, you got no. a chance you got no change you're just gonna burn a slow debt yeah I like people who just come up with a tech and I don't even get the text I won't get the text like a home they come up on my iPad uh-huh so unless I open up my iPad you don't see him I don't see well you know it's like even in the dating world right like if you're date or if you date a girl who's under the age 35 I'd say 30 35 used to be that dating was I love the phone calls I love conversing on the phone It's the greatest form of mental foreplay there is before you pick up your date. I mean, you have them interested in you, maybe, you know, romancing him, getting excited about the date.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I can't get that across in text. No, no. I can't do that. And I love the whole setup of it. I mean, honestly, I don't have that many. I sit down, talk for an hour on the phone, half hour. I can't believe you're saying this. The other night, I worked brayer this last weekend.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Thursday, it took leave with me. But the other nights I drove by myself. Before I do a show, I enjoy myself. Before I do a show, I like driving and no radio. Just digging into the coconut. I'm not even thinking about jokes. I'm thinking about parts of my life. Sad things, how I had that argument, Bruce Buffer in 1984, and we still don't talk.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I think about all that shit, you know? And on the way back, I listened to the radio. And on the way back, that song came by my Michael Jackson. Remember the time? And I was listening to the lyrics. And he goes, we'd be talking on the phone all night. And I said to myself, do people still, do kids still? I still remember the girl's name, but I would talk to from midnight to six in the morning.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, absolutely. And then go to the seventh grade. Yeah. My brother just hit me up yet. He's an actor in New York. Me and this girl would talk all. I never fucked them. If you want, I never even sucked the tithies.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Right. That's what you did back then. Right. You talked for five hours on. the phone. Right. The other night, one of these nights came on by the Eagles. That was my song with this girl from Miami. Great song. Natasha and Rebecca, they were twins. You didn't know who you were kissing. And I was like 10 when that song came out. 75. I was 12. And I remember that I started my first long-distance relationship. And I didn't know about long distance. I'm picking up
Starting point is 00:10:43 the phone, Dallon, 305, eight times a day. Yep. In 1975. Yep. One day my mother came up with 24 pages of phone bills. It threw them at me and said, how are you expecting to pay for this bill? It was like an $800 phone bill. I had to give a four out of my bank account and work out four weeks for 10. I would work at the bar and I would get like 80 a week,
Starting point is 00:11:12 so she took 40 a week for 10 weeks until my big was paid. Well, you know, back in 75, I mean, the cell phone was back. I graduated high school in 75. Jesus, yeah, because I've got four years on it, right? Four? I graduated in 82. Well, I'm 61.
Starting point is 00:11:26 How old are you? 56th. 19th. I got five years on you. Five years. Be nice to your elders. Yes. So,
Starting point is 00:11:32 beautiful. Thank you. But, you know, going back then, the telephones back then were like Michael Douglas and Wall Street walking on the beach, you know, with the big square things. And I remember back when they... What was the first cell phone? It was that big, big cell phone. Because they had one in Escarbar and Narcos and they were fucking.
Starting point is 00:11:50 That's what I'm talking about. Okay. So in Escobar, they have those, what do you call those phones? Satellite phones. Satellite phones. Satellite phones. Yeah, that's what they're using there. But this thing was like big and used to sit in the carriage in the middle of the car.
Starting point is 00:12:02 We all excited when we got our cell phones. But my frigging cell phone bills back then. Yes. Worth a thousand plus. You were paying huge amounts of time per minute back then. It's changed so much. Your plans were per minute. Huge.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Your plans were 600 minutes a month. You didn't talk much in those days. No. No, no, no, no, no. Real quick. Hello, goodbye. I got to save our minutes and shit. And then there was something on the phone where you could check how many minutes you had for the month or a computer page on Sprint.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Would show you how many, oh, my God. Holy shit. And now people, like, in their 20s and younger, they get anxiety about talking on the phone. Like, they'll text, but they don't talk on the phone. I think that social anxiety along with ADD is rampant these days. Why do you think social anxiety is so big now? I see it in a lot of, you know what I notice in kids? When I used to walk in a room and I'd say to my dad, even as a young kid,
Starting point is 00:12:57 my dad was a Marine drill instructor, Korean World War II, 13 years in the Marine Corps, probably has Michael, my brother, the legendary, who you've worked with, who by the way, just got inducted into the International Sports Hall of Fame. Yeah, he's a bad. Yeah, he's great. It's awesome for him. So I'd walk in a room and I'd say, hi, dad. He'd go, son, project your voice.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Let them know you're in the room, right? okay dad all right and you know son look him in the eye shake their hands look them in the eye when you talk to a man look him in the eye if he doesn't look you in the eyes something's wrong right so i mean kids do that i notice the kids now they and i and again i love children you know i help raise two boys henry and rupert they're about to be 11 and once 14 it's a great experience in my life helping raise these two boys is their godfather their uncle and second father you know and i put a lot into it but i'm noticing that kids down. They don't look you in the eye. They don't communicate. They stand across
Starting point is 00:13:54 from each other. They're sitting on the couch like they're doing here and they're not looking each other and talking. They're texting to each other, right? It's not teaching that in. I don't know the proper term is intimacy, but just communication skills. You know, you walk in to get a job. Am I going to hire you if you walk in my office looking at the floor, not making eye contact with me, not making proper communication? Have you ever seen it with sunglasses on? You? Yeah. You ever seen them? No, I never have. Lee, eight years.
Starting point is 00:14:20 No, no, no. Don't believe in them. Well, I came from, you're not allowed to wear sunglasses. Why, what happened if you did? They smack them off. Really? Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:14:29 The time I grew up in, nobody wears sunglasses. Interesting. No earrings, no tattoos. Earrings I can understand. Nothing. Yeah. Nothing. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Society, I grew up in, you walk into a room with sunglasses, somebody would smack them off your face. And when did that change? What about right now? You go back there and now. Are they tattooed and earringed and sunglasses? The kids I hang up are still. are still straight like that.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Straight like that. Just the mentality was this way of being that was just, I don't believe in glass. It's like the Bronx tale. When you come in my house, you take those fucking things off. Unless you're fucking Steve McQueen, don't put Steve's fucking sunglasses on it, right? Not around me.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You want to hear a quick Steve McQueen sunglass story? Yeah. Okay. One of the best movies McQueen ever made where he, people think he really did a true acting turn. Because like you know, I was good for, friends with him, really good friends for the last six years of his life. I surfed in front of his house every day. He was my neighbor a quarter mile away from me in Malibu. And he had a great
Starting point is 00:15:27 search spot in front of his house. When he made the Thomas Crown Affair, right, which he dressed up and all, he wore these blue lens per sole glasses, sunglasses, which they make today. They're the Steve McQueen version. They fold, right? So his last wife, Barbara Minty auctioned off a bunch of his materials. And it was the sunglasses from the Thomas Crown Affair. They sold for $35,000. Okay? Nobody knows this, but when you walked in his house, he had a little wicker basket by the front door.
Starting point is 00:15:57 There were four pair of those sunglasses in the wicker basket, right? So like Chad, his son is one of my best friends who has auctioned off a lot of material. His jacket from Bullet valued the one on the poster, the great movie Bullet, valued at $800,000. When on auction, the auction went up to $725,000. And so they didn't sell it because that's the reserve. It had to get 800,000. Well, Chad told me that, chances are,
Starting point is 00:16:22 were not the original sunglasses from the... Sorry, if anybody's listening to bought this. I'm not trying to get me in trouble, but it was probably not the original sunglasses. His dad had a... I remember myself. He had a little wicker basket right there with all the glasses.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Now, I actually own the poster of the Thomas Crown Affair, which... Do you remember the movie? Yes. And then they made it. They remade it with Pierce Brosson, who had great job.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Good movie. There's a scene in the film. that movie that like when Sam Peck and Pawn made a movie called A Wild Bunch, it changed the way violence was perceived. Tremendous movie. One of the greatest movies of all time. A story about men and honor, even those were criminals, but story, I can recite every line from that film. I've seen it over 200 times. Getting back to, for I lose track of what I'm saying, what was I at? Darn it. You have the poster for the Thomas Crown. Yeah, the Thomas Crown Affair. So the scene in the Thomas Crown Affair, when he and Fay Dunaway are playing chess. And if you remember how provocatively, she would touch the
Starting point is 00:17:16 chess pieces. This was big stuff back then. This was very risque, right? Then they kissed each other and the camera went 360 degrees around them as they kissed with open mouth kisses. That's the first open mouth kiss ever in Hollywood. That's what, you know, changed the art of kissing. It's one of the, at that time considered an erotic scene. Look up Thomas Crown of her. I'm going to guess when I met Steve in 74 for the first time, he just got done doing or 73, the getaway, just got done doing the getaway met him and Alan McGrawlocky. 68. 68, I was going to say. Yeah, 68. So that's one that changed. You know, there's certain films, whether it's Orson Wells back, you know, with one of his original movies, they're trendsetters. You know, Tarantino, he changes film. You know,
Starting point is 00:18:01 certain scenes, certain films that just changed the way films are made. And that had one little aspect to it. But the jacket in bullet, the point I'm trying to make is I'm going back and forth on subjects here. Steve gave me a jacket. That was a Brooks Brothers jacket. Steve gave me a jacket when I was a kid same jacket right but it wasn't the one worn in the movie I wish I kept that jacket a little certificate of authenticity I don't know why being the big collector of memorabilia that I am today I vintage movie posters you name it but that jacket probably even though he didn't wear it a movie be worth 150 200 thousand dollars today the fire suit in the movie Lamon remember we made the yeah yeah yeah Lamond the car the car car racing the fire suit he
Starting point is 00:18:40 wore underneath his race suit did auction off for 750,000 dollars the tag horse watch that he wore on his wrist also auctioned off for 750,000. The thing he wore in the towering inferno, I read that the hat, the hat, the fireman's hat he wore, went for like 600, I don't quote me. No, that's, but I remember reading it going, Jesus, this had to be 10 years ago before I even knew you were involved with McQueen and anything's possible. I've seen his stuff go. Yeah, that's how wearing inferno, fire hat and something else that he did.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I remember reading went off big big time well Ford just came out with the Steve what do you do you take it home I was going to say put in your closet they just uh people pay people pay money for crazy things there was just a lock of hair uh Marilyn Monroe's lock of hair a lock of hair just sold for $16,000 16,000 the original document signed by Jackie Robinson the baseball player who was the first Afro-American black baseball player to ever be, play on a major league team.
Starting point is 00:19:49 The original document is now being up for auction and it's valued at $36 million. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, so what document? They're putting it up for auction. His first contract or something? His first contract for his first major league baseball contract, the movie 52, Jackie Robinson, right? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:10 So, or 42. Jackie Robinson They're starting it off 15 million base They expect the document to sell for 36 million or more I love this stuff I'm a big collector You know when you go on the road
Starting point is 00:20:24 When I'm at home I don't watch that much TV Yeah And when I go on the road I put the TV on But I'll put Netflix on And put the earphones on I'm a fucking idiot And I'll watch
Starting point is 00:20:35 I'm an idiot too I do the same thing I'll watch like an old UFC And watch so I'm watching or listening and I do all that shit What the fuck were you just talking about? You're talking about Netflix
Starting point is 00:20:49 You don't watch too much TV Jackie Robinson We're talking Jackie Robinson Steve McQueen collectibles I mean Bruce do you I was gonna ask what your most expensive thing is But have you been at an auction Where something went from like three
Starting point is 00:21:03 Four million dollars Jeez Yeah It's very common Like the I have an original poster Of the great movie Everybody watches the Christmas Called It's a Wonderful Life
Starting point is 00:21:13 one of my favorite tremendous favorite movies all Jimmy Stewart Donna Reed what a Fox what a Fox Donna Reed wasn't or hate it
Starting point is 00:21:20 you know it's amazing it's a seven foot high poster and it's in three pieces now the reason I collect a lot of vintage movie posters because they're like artwork yeah I love them they're cool
Starting point is 00:21:30 yeah my whole house is just you know and I've got stuff in vaults because I have so much of this stuff but he it's Jimmy Stewart and he's holding Donna Reed over his head
Starting point is 00:21:39 and her feet are in the air and her pearls are dangling and they're smiling and it's a wonderful life right so i paid like four thousand dollars for this back in like nineteen ninety two um and when they used to tear down when the movies were done running at the movie theaters there's the one sheet the single sheet and there's the three sheets well the three sheets they would just tear down the one sheets they would roll up so this that's why if you got a three sheet it's a very rare piece so this piece is probably valued around 40 50 000 today or whatever
Starting point is 00:22:06 but um christie's contacted me who's another big auction house because it's like one of less than six known So they wanted me to sell it. I go, there's no way I'm selling it. If I'm ever broke, right, and I'm homeless, you're going to see me with this damn poster underneath my arm because it means everything to me. It motivates me. It's a wonderful life, you know. It's what we're all searching for, right?
Starting point is 00:22:27 So movie memorabilia, some of the biggest, most expensive memorabilia, I collect a lot of guns and artifacts all World War II and before. I don't hunt. I'm not a hunter. Not saying there's anything wrong with that. If it's done correctly, there's, I have issues with an, in many cases. But I do collect, and I have a lot of World War II member bill.
Starting point is 00:22:49 And the most expensive stuff that's being sold is the German military, weaponry, and artifacts from World War II. It's like some of the most expensive stuff you'll ever find going up in value. Sports cards, out-open wax packs. Remember when we were a kid? We'd open up. We'd get the gum. We'd get the baseball cards, all that kind of stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:23:07 I've got unopened wax packs from the 50s and the 60s. I'd pay $1,000 for a piece of that bubble gum, right? now. Well, you'll have to pay $1,000 for the damn pack. It was usually harder to fuck. It was already broken. Break your teeth on. That's what gave you the jaw strength you have today. Yeah. Was chewing on that fucking cheap bubble gum. Cheap bubble gum and jawbreakers. Remember jawbreakers? Like a mother-oh. Yeah. Big time. Big time. Who determines like, I know like a baseball card or like Bob Linguish sent me a picture of Julius serving. And it's a signature and it has the authorization and all that stuff. Yeah. But who determines?
Starting point is 00:23:43 determines the value. It's like, how do you know what, like Tony Soprano, the Soprano 20th anniversary was on two weeks ago on HBO? Right. And I watched a couple episodes and he showed up with JFK's
Starting point is 00:23:54 sailor hat, some hat. Who the fuck knows of JFK that even put that on? Is there some fat guy in Boston right now? I'm giggling with 80,000 there's bank account, a room full of Navy hats?
Starting point is 00:24:07 You know, that's the problem I have. Well, unless I know you, you're Steve McQueen's son yeah he gave it to me I'm in hard shape I can't stop doing blow take this poster right now buy it from here maybe in 10 years when you get you get together I'll sell it back to you if it's a you know but who determines like this day like a house oh I know what I was talking about porn porn what's the
Starting point is 00:24:33 pawn stars pawn stars let me tell you I'm not much into TV when I'm on the road I watch that show yeah that you got it I learned like a motherfucker about pricing on stuff. They're pretty well, they're pretty well set up. They're very well set up. They're scripted and all to a large extent. But you got pawn stars, you've got antique roadshow. I only watch Porn Shardsars.
Starting point is 00:24:57 That's the only one I watch. Antique Roadhouse or Roadshow? Yeah. The father just died. Yeah, the father just died. The father just died. But that show, you always learn something. And to answer your question about how do you determine the value?
Starting point is 00:25:11 It's like, how do you determine the value of people? piece of real estate, the most common way is the comps, right? The house down the street sold. It's this thing. Comp. So once an item sells, I'll give you an example. My UFC 232 cards, the Amanda Nunes fight, where she fought Chris Cyborg, right? I only done this 15 times, 16 times where I sold up the cards and I do it for animal, military, and children's charities. I get partial proceeds. In this case, it was Make a Wish Foundation. So I sold, I auctioned off individual the cards instead of the set. All the cards and the John Jones, card sold for around 150 each to 250 for the John Jones card roughly. The Amanda Nunes card sold for
Starting point is 00:25:49 $4,272. That piece of card will determine that. eBay. The buyers got it. No, no, not eBay. I didn't put a reserve. The buyer's gotten a bidding war over it. So now once the price is paid, it sets the precedent. The most that I've ever received for my cards as a set, the Connor McGregor Diaz cards when the second time they fought sold for $5,000 for the set. Rhonda Rousey sold for $3,200 when she fought Holly Holmes. And then I've sold sets for $500. It's all about what the market will bear. But once the price is there, it sets a tone.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Now, there's a grading on cards called PSA. You can take your sport card or your wax pack, send it into PSA grading. They encase it, and they grade it 1 through 10, right? So here's an example of how that works. I bought two wax packs of 1961 Fleer basketball, which contains potentially the Wilk Chamberlain rookie card. Okay? And now we would love to open it and find a Wilk Chamberlain rookie card.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Two years ago, that pack sold, last year, that pack sold for $2,100. So already I've almost made 100% of my money, and I bought this thing four years ago. Last week, it sold for $3,300. Great at PSA 7. They just and they're like gold bricks. Supply and demand.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I've seen the recessions happen. And when I look at the artifacts I collect in the military, the movie posters and these cards, they don't go down. Even the Wall Street Journal once said when we're in a recession, some of the most valuable things you can have to where to put your money is in collectibles. But you've got to know which ones to buy. And you've got to how to do it. Now you're a thing about authenticity.
Starting point is 00:27:34 You need what you call a COA, which is a certificate of authorization. Right, right, right. Got to have that when you buy. Especially when you buy signature items. The movie Melissa McCarthy came out in this year that she's nominated for Best Actress Award for. She plays a writer who is out of a job as far as a writer and discovers that she can write letters from old people in the past and falsify their signatures. And she becomes a forger of collectibles, collecting money. This is a true story that this movie was made.
Starting point is 00:28:03 She does a very good star turn from the comedic actress to dramatic actress, which I'm going to say for you, too I find that most comedians, whether you go back from Jack Lemon in the old days, to comedians that, you know, work the road and are in front of audiences all the time, to music, musicians like David Bowie, McJagger, when they get in film, they do great jobs. Yeah, we do drama. Incredible. I'm a better drama guy. Yeah, you're great.
Starting point is 00:28:27 You know, the drama. Look at Lady Gaga nominated for stars. Okay, she's a singer. Yeah, but she had to act, right? Star turn, performance. Share, share is incredible. Nominated for an actress, best actress. She was great.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Fucking mask. She was great in Moonstruck. She won the award for Moonstruck, right? Back then, you know, so it's just interesting how that turns. My brother frames shit. Yeah. My brother in Jersey. But if you don't.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And I have a lot of conversations about jerseys. Right. He's a big Jersey guy. Again, COA, certificate of authenticity. And we talked about this. So when I went home last time, Jay Bichetti sent me a picture of Berdo Clemente. He got it from the museum. So when I go to New York, I bring him all my stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:08 He frames. when he comes back out for Comic-Con, he gives me my stuff because people send pictures and stuff like that. But years ago, he got caught up in one of those where he bought him from somebody who lied to him.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Oh, he bought some false ones? He bought one false one, and then he caught the guy and he got his money back, and the guy got put in jail. Yeah, the guy sure got arrested. Yeah, no, it's a serious fucking thing. Because it's a huge business. I can just sit here with baseballs and sign him and go, Mickey Mantle.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I hit Mickey Mantle signed strangely enough Mickey Mantle's autograph you used to be able to buy for like 60 bucks he signed multitudes you know a card shows a multitudes of them but now his signatures were quite a lot of money and you got to be careful with these signatures if you don't storm right like I used and I've always lived at the beach and the salt air can just ruin those signatures so you got to encase them right you know you've got to make sure you care for them right but these are gold bricks and they're great way to invest that's where that's where my investment has been done a lot in a I'm fine. I used to invest in comic books. Comic books are great also. Colorado. He used to be a big comic book. Right here. This guy's got original Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:30:17 This is my buddy Gary. He's one of my best friends, a big collector of comic books. And I know comic books, you're talking, they've gone for hundreds, of thousands. We used to, we were kids. Real quick, before you do that.
Starting point is 00:30:27 You know one of the biggest collectors of comic books is? Who? Nicholas Cage. One of the biggest collectors of comic books. Matter of fact, I think he's sold a rare Superman comic book for a huge amount of money.
Starting point is 00:30:37 When I was, When I left Catholic school, the kids I ran were with collectors. And we would go to this guy's house. I was telling Lee, one of those Italian guys that lives with his mother in the basement. He would wake up at two. His comic book store was only open from three to six. He was the laziest sack of shit in the world. He'd come up with a rogue, bad breath, and we just torment them and argue.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Yeah. We were 12-year-olds. Fuck you. It can't be worth this. And then when he would turn his back, we'd rob a Spider-Man, and then bring it back and sell it to him two days later. And I saw you this, yeah. And we would just torment them.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But I got into it. I got into the Fantastic Four. Yeah, one of my favorites. And I got into the Silver Surfer. Yeah. And I bought all of them. I had all of them. I used to go to shows.
Starting point is 00:31:26 You still got them? No. I sold them in the middle of a Coke Feend. Really? Wow. Wow. Yeah. I was telling me, we robbed a van one time.
Starting point is 00:31:34 We were kids. It was one of those comic book thing, conventions. Right. And we were sitting in front of the house, and there was a van on Liberty Avenue for like a week. And there was the summer of the T-shirt where you pressed. Oh, you mean the old rock t-shirt so you used to make? No, the old hot presses. Oh, the hot presses, right, right, right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:53 You would go down to Jersey Shore and there'd be a picture of Hitler and you'd go, let me put that on the T-shirt. You did, I did. No, I didn't. I'm just saying, Hitler. You could put a picture, whatever you wanted. Right. You waited for two minutes, and the guy melted your shirt with an iron.
Starting point is 00:32:06 That was all in the back of that van. We basically emptied the van, took a bus to Comicville land. They were like in hotels, marriots, and shit like that. So you ripped this poor guy off. You took his livelihood and you went to Comic-Con? It wasn't common. This was not Comic-Con. Not back then.
Starting point is 00:32:23 This is 1975. I got to do an appearance of Comic-Con. I've been abided. Oh, you'd make a kill. I couldn't go. I want to go. I want to do what so bad. You and your brother would make a fucking kill.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah, it'd be a lot of fun. Killen. I can't sit. You know, you were talking about something before, about social anxiety. I grew up in a bar. You know, I do stand up for a living, the whole thing. I tell you what I cannot do. And that's go out anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:50 We mean like go out at night and party, or what are you talking about? No, those days are long now. But that's not because you're married with children? No. Just something about when I'm around a lot of people, I got uncomfortable. Like the ship finally sailed this year when I had a little showtime. I did a show for showtime. I went to the party.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I took my wife on a date. I said, let's make it a date. And we both looked at each other after three minutes. I have been the last couple of years that have gotten more and more, not antisocial, I don't have social anxiety. Just when I see a lot of people, I got to go. If you've noticed, I stop going to the UFC's. Yeah, I haven't seen you in a lot.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I've cut them down because it just got too much. It was too much for me. And I feel bad last week. A kid contacted me, and they wanted to do a party for Scott Cunningham. Oh, okay. You know, Scott Cunningham was one of the guys that did the page for us on Facebook, and then they overthrew him a bunch of people. So now there's a war.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Scott Cunningham is the nicest guy in the world. Right. I go, number one, you can't set. I live day-to-day, Buffer. I live day-to-day. I live day-to-day. I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow. I live day-to-day. What happens if somebody calls you Tuesday and says you're doing a movie for three months? All that planning we did was not. I live day-to-day guy. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing Thursday. I don't know what I'm doing Friday. I know I'll be busy, but I have no fucking idea. I'll say one thing, though, I told you to call me for this show on a certain day, and boom, when you say you're going to do something.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Oh, no. This is my business. This is my business. This is what I do. I don't like to bother people or nothing, but I have a set schedule. This is what you have to do. And I don't know what it is. I had to tell this kid.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I go, listen, I appreciate what you're doing. When the time is right, I'm going to fly Scott Cunningham out of here and put him on the show. when I know that I have a month off, that I'm not going to go anywhere. Right. But until that time, he goes, why don't we just get together at the party?
Starting point is 00:34:45 And I go, you obviously don't know me. You obviously don't go to the comedy star on Tuesdays. I have two spots on Tuesdays. Right. So I have that little window. You want to talk to me? That's your window.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah, come there. Because I go right from the stage, straight to the car. You know, I can understand that. Because I think, personally, I think people say,
Starting point is 00:35:07 what does it like getting older? And I think the biggest, benefit to getting older is the knowledge that we keep absorbing and getting more knowledgeable about things. But also the other thing about getting older is we get much more particular. I mean, speaking for myself in particular, whether it's, you know, picking someone to date or a business venture or whatever, been through so many as you have as all of us had. Like Lee, how old do you? 30. Okay. The only difference to you and me is 31 years of life experience, right? Otherwise, I don't consider myself any different. I just got 31 years of experience, whatever I chose to experience in that 31 years. But
Starting point is 00:35:38 we become more particular. You see the mistake. mistakes, hopefully you see the mistakes before they happen. Well, you see the move before it even evolved. Yeah, exactly. Bill Hicks used to have a great joke. Marijuana doesn't make you lazy. It just makes you realize that what you're going to do ain't worth doing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:54 I'm going to go smoke this joint. Go see that fucking boss one more time. That's a good one. That's a great joke because it's very true. My brother, he was a police officer for roughly 25 years, right? He had a good line too. He said, I never broke up a fight at a bar because two guys just got on smoking a joint. never never broke up a fight between two guys just smoked to join no no you know but it's so weird how
Starting point is 00:36:16 I just uh I get high I'll go out mm-hmm you know I gotta do comedy I'm having a good time once it I see more than eight people my fucking heart stops when I give blood I gotta give blood with the window's gotta be I gotta see a window I better hope I never get that way Joey you're on a little step in the octagon you know and do my work God, oh, my. I fainted at two. I fainted. I fainted. I fainted at a fight night at the palm. Really? Yeah. With me, this had to be 15 years ago when they were still doing the little UFC tough night. At the Pearl Palm. At the Pearl Palm. Whatever the fuck that was. I fainted. I had Ralphie Mae over here. And I had a chick over here with the biggest thing. Ralphie didn't pick you up. I'm sure about that.
Starting point is 00:37:04 No, no. I had the biggest fight. I fainted on Ralphie. I had two options. I had Ralphie and I had a chick over here with gigantic fake tits. Soft spots on either way. With the fucking, the doctor who gave her the tits. Hilarious. So what happened was somebody got hit really bad. Right. And when they wiped him, they threw the towel.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And the towel land. I saw the towel hit the thing and blood come out of it. You got blood anxiety? Oh my God. I faked him right there at the UFC fight. What happens when they got to take your blood of the doctors? What do you do? I put an iPod on and I looked the other way.
Starting point is 00:37:38 They give me a special nurse. Really? She takes my blood out with baby needles. Really? I go to acupuncture and you overcome the needle fear. I love acupuncture. I go to acupuncture every other week
Starting point is 00:37:49 to overcome the needle fear. Interesting. I just have, I don't go to acupuncture high. No, actually, you get a good acupuncture high after the acupuncture. Yeah, you get high after the acupuncture. I don't go to acupuncture high because if the needle goes in the wrong way, I'll faint. Interesting. So I don't do nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:08 and when it comes to blood and all that stuff. Joey, I know you're a tough son of a bitch from the early days. Will you like this when you got in a fight as a kid? Blood comes out? It's not you. You could bleed the depth of the phone. It's you.
Starting point is 00:38:20 It's your blood. It's me. It's the smallest, and I don't know when it's going to happen. Uh-huh. I could cut my thumb open and nothing happened, and then one day I could be in the shower. Chaving.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And just a little thing. And that'll get you? I've got to get out of the shower and lay on the floor naked. Wow. If you never know when it's going to hit. I never know when it's going to hit. I've controlled it more now with like needles. When I go to the doctor, I force myself to get blood.
Starting point is 00:38:48 You know, it's funny about phobias because, like, obviously a lot of people suffer from various phobias. There's so many phobias out there. Steve McQueen had a phobia. He was scared of heights. But you know what he used to do? He started flying airplanes to get over his fear of heights. And he didn't just fly airplanes.
Starting point is 00:39:03 He flew the old Pick, Karen and Steerman old airplanes. They were the World War I double-wing airplanes with the open cockpit. So I used to go up to his, before he passed away, he had his ranch up in Santa Paula, California. It was a beach home, Malibu, and the ranch up in Santa Paula. And he had an airplane hanger there. We stored all those motorcycles and planes and toys, big toy collector, like Buck Rogers toys. Huge collector. That's one of the things we had in common.
Starting point is 00:39:28 We would go to collectors, gun shows together, you know, breakfast. Guy never had his wallet on him. I had to pay for every damn breakfast. For some reason, Steve McQueen never had. his wallet on him. It could crack me up in his son's the same way. Chad, if you're listening, you know you are. So with that being said, we went up there and he lands his plane and he chases a photographer away from like doing one of these out the side, chases him away, right? And we have a good day together, a nice thing. And I was noticing that Steve was losing weight, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:00 and I didn't understand why. And a week later, after we, he said something. He said something, to me and I remember we drove away, he just kept waving at us. It's the weirdest feeling. I remember the scene. You know that scene? You're driving away and just kept waving. I've known him for a good amount of time and seen them consistently. We're really good friends. And then a week later, or maybe two weeks later, the National Enquirer came out. Steve McQueen, cancer, right? There's the picture taken that day of him in the plane. He chased a photographer off or sold the picture to the National Enquirer. And they got the supposedly, allegedly, They gathered the story from what I understand back then from what I heard in the inside.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Again, I'm not to say this case, that information was leaked out of Cedar Sinai. And then he went on his bout, I think it was six months later, give or take that he passed. They just released the film Tom Horn, that was his last film that came out after the film of a hunter, which is actually a very good film, really good. It's good. It's a really good. It's a Western. It's a really good film. It was good. Tom Horn, that's a whole other subject we can go into. And then he went through his treatments, and he went down to Mexico. He went to Mexico.
Starting point is 00:41:10 To get enemas, coffee, enemas, every kind of holistic possible treatment for this. And I remember Walter Cronkart in the CBS News, they had a tape of him and the raspy voice of Steve McQueen thanking everybody for their thoughts. And he was gone a few days later, if not within a week later. They operated on him. They found like a 10 or 15 pound tumor inside. He didn't survive the operation. And that was the last time we heard from Stan. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:41:36 He passed at the age of 50 when you think about it. He was 50 years old when he passed. Amazing, huh? What year did he pass? 1980. So he would be, you know, he died right after my mother, yeah? 1980. You know, I'll start at the age of 50, another one of my idols when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I had certain idols. Tell me your film idols growing up. I'm going to give you a couple of mine. Film idols growing up? Yeah. The first one was definitely Charles Bronson after Death Wish. Do you remember Charles? Do you know Charles Bronson's real name?
Starting point is 00:42:04 Charles McCluskey Charles Buczynski Polish he changed it on a Hollywood Boulevard on something yeah there but in the house of wax which was one of his first movies with Vincent Price back in the 50s his credits are Charles Buczynski it was before he changed it to Charles Bronson and I'm going to tell you another funny story about Charles Bronson you want to hear this one yeah this is great because Charles Bronson used to live in Malibu where I grew up right and his wife he loved her to death she passed away I think from breast cancer I forget Joe Ireland, Joe Ireland. So my house, my parents' house where we lived in Trankas caught fire, right?
Starting point is 00:42:41 So my dad, while it was being fixed, he lived at the bed and breakfast in because my dad was a writer. He'd go up there and write. And he was up at the bed and breakfast on Point Doom. And he told me the story. He goes, he goes, it was driving me crazy because for a couple of days, all this guy next door is doing is banging away all day long. Sex, all day long. It's like, you know, like, you know, coming through the windows. But the picture on the wall is like shaking like a movie, right?
Starting point is 00:43:07 And he's like, I'm sitting here trying to write. It's like every other hour. Right, banging away. So he walks outside when he comes out of the room. Charles Bronson. Charles Bronson was there having a little weekend trist, shall we say. So Charles Bronson. He was old, too.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Oh, yeah, but he was a stud. That man, remember Chado's land? I mean, he was a stud. He was a stud. In the mechanic, he's 51 years old. Yeah. And there's another. story who co-starred with him in the mechanic
Starting point is 00:43:35 Jack Michael well another good friend of mine married my high school friend and then Jay and Michael went a bad way too where is he Jay and Michael Vincent let's preface this for the for your listeners okay jam Michael Vincent was the original Brad motherfucking there you go
Starting point is 00:43:51 right there exactly was gonna come out of mud Brad Pitt all the way when you saw him you were like good Googly moogly God's gift he did the first one I came from Cuba he did a movie called the world's greatest athlete for Disney that with Kurt Russell as his coach that put him on the map put him on the map put him on the map they did the blue look what else he did he did something else well he had the big tv
Starting point is 00:44:14 show air wolf but this is all after that but early on the film he did he did my buddy john millius who did Conan the barbarian who actually designed the octagon he was the original designer of the octagon they were going to put a moat around the octagon with deadly fish and all this that was john millis's mind working with the graces back then um Anyway, big Wednesday. Jam Michael Vincent, Gary Busey, who was my neighbor. That was his first movie? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:44:43 This is when Jan was really big. This is when Jan did two big movies back to back. Okay. Look him up on IMDB. Did the mechanic and then he did something else. He did a big ensemble of stars in a horse race movie where they were racing. I forget the name of that. He's had a, this Jam Michael Vinson's got a big body.
Starting point is 00:45:01 He's got a, oh, wait a minute. The stuntman with a star man with a horse race movie. Bert Reynolds. That's what it was. Yes. Because he got under Bert Reynolds. Hopper. Hooper. Hooper. Hooper. Hooper. Exactly. Same thing. Bert Reynolds was getting old. He was the new guy on the block. And at the end, Bert Reynolds showed him how the fuck it was done with the dog.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Remember they kept torturing the animal cruelty guy and Bert did the jump? It's hilarious movie. It's a great movie. Great movie. And then he did another movie that nobody knows about. You got to see the cast. a movie called Defiance. Defiance. It's Jan Michael Vincent as a longshoreman living in the village in New York.
Starting point is 00:45:41 It was like one of the original death wishes kind of switch. He fell in love with the Latin girl. And he was protecting everybody in the neighborhood. The fucking guy that played the gang leader in there was one of the scariest gang leaders you'll ever see. He had, he was also in the movie with about gangs.
Starting point is 00:46:00 but that came out with Sean Penn. And Robert Duval. What was that movie? Where they played the LAPD officers. Hustler. Hussler, whatever that move. What is it, Rudy Ronald? Colors. Colors. Colors.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Colors. Colors. Colors. But there's a guy in that movie Defend. Let me tell you who's the Defiance. Menacing. All right. You got Danny A.E.L. Mm-hmm. In the beginning, Young, Danny A.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Paulie Walnuts from the Sopranos, right. Young. Yep. The black guy is some star now, young. Defiance is a movie that you'll never dream about. It's about a gang that terrorizes the neighborhood and Jan Michael and his fucking Jan's their friends fucked them up.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Jan Michael, Vincent, to watch the mechanic, the mechanic was on the other night. The old, the new one. The one with Jason Stadham was very well one. No. But it's not, no. Jan Michael Vincent was, no.
Starting point is 00:46:51 That was a shit. That was a shit. No. No. No. You don't like Jason Statham? I love Jason Statham until he did the mechanic. Because he stepped on territory.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And then I wouldn't mind if he did it. But they took the main concept out of the movie. Charles Bronson was just not a killer in that movie. He was a calculating. Calculative. He killed you so it didn't look like it was a murder. In the beginning he blows up the guy with the books.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Everything was he knew he was susceptible to heart attacks. So he'd let firecrackers next to you. So you would have to jump up in the end. You'd die from a heart attack. So when they redid it, I knew they were going to miss out on the calculation. part of the movie and then at the end jam michael gets in the car yeah bam it's over and you wait there if you watch this movie today you will hit me tomorrow and go joey go fuck yourself i watched the first half
Starting point is 00:47:42 hour in that movie and i fell asleep then you don't like movies you fall asleep you don't like movies because it's a 70s movie so it's shot very slow they made great very methodically they made uh serpico i can go on and on there's so many great movies in 70s oh death wish That's the wish you're getting so... That is one of the most... That is one of the most brutal rape scenes. Horrible. You will ever see...
Starting point is 00:48:06 Hope Lang. Hope Lang. Was the wife? Hope Lang. And... And... Yeah, what's his name? Was the original rapist?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Greenberg or whatever is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's still a fucking rapist. He's going to sue me for the same. Oh, Jesus. I didn't say that. All right. So let me tell you about Jan Michael.
Starting point is 00:48:22 You ready? You asked a question. Now, when did you meet Jan Michael? I met Jan Michael when I was in high school at Santa Monica High School. I was with my girlfriend, Nina Nicholson. I'll never forget. I can say names, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:33 So anyway, Nina and I were in a jacuzzi, right? And Joanne, Jan married a woman who was one of our good friends named Joanne Robinson, right? So Joanne comes in, really one of the hotter girls in high school, Jan had a good taste, and then walks Jan Michael Vincent.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Now I'm a huge fan of his, right? And I'm in the jacuzzi. I was in Jan Michael Vincent's jumping in the jacuzzi and bottle of champagne opens and we're all having a good time. That's when I first met. Dick's son. Now,
Starting point is 00:48:59 well, everybody wanted to, but I didn't want to sit there and watch that. No, you went away crying. I, when I lived in Malibu,
Starting point is 00:49:07 there was a place called Trankas, a trancas restaurant at the corner of Trankas Canyon Road, at the end of Zuma Beach. It was the hot spot. It was a restaurant by day,
Starting point is 00:49:16 but at nighttime, on Friday and Saturday nights, there was a big area there where bands used to come play. We partied hard there. I would party with, get this group, you ready for this group?
Starting point is 00:49:27 My next door neighbor was Jam, excuse me, was Gary Busey. And this was the time Gary Buse was nominated for the Academy Award for Buddy Holly. This is before the accident. This is before the accident. Yeah, he lived right next door to me, okay? We were next door. So this is when he was nominated for the Buddy Holly movie for Best Actor.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And then he went on to do Big Wednesday. So we'd party there with Michael Parks from then came Bronson, went on to the Tarantino films. You know Michael Parks. David Caridine, right? Ooh. Jam Michael Vincent, Gary Busey, and a few other people that are mixed in there. I once got asked at the bar, I was sitting at the bar, and I can go so many stories of this.
Starting point is 00:50:11 But there was a guy in a cowboy hat, right? Good looking guy, you know, having his fun, talking and said, hi, I'm worried, you know, just having a couple drinks. He gets in this argument with this guy, right? And he turns around and he goes, look, this guy gets on me. You back me up because I'm going to go for it here. You know what that guy was? Don Johnson. Young Don Johnson.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I can't be going to tell you the personalities that came in and out of this place. A lot of people know about Don Johnson. And I just remember this. Don Johnson was like a dude that hung out with Frank Zappa. Don Johnson, he was a big partier. He was like a young Bruce Willis back then. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:47 He hung out with Frank Zappa, and he also hung out with the Alman Brothers. He partied with the fucking Ormonds. but the fucking almond brothers like i read this thing about him that he even contributed lyrics to one of the almond brothers song they were getting high or something like that he was he was dating somebody he's got a very interesting he was that guy that was dating somebody that was big then he got a boy in his dog and he just blew up after then he married somebody married melanie griffith but no before that he married like melody's mother
Starting point is 00:51:16 first you do it do a check yeah yeah yeah yeah he did some kinky shit well before i forget yeah but But good body of work. I mean, Don Johnson, you know, Miami. I love Don. Yeah, he's great. I've always loved Don. The Tarantino films, he does great jobs. Yeah, I love Don John.
Starting point is 00:51:29 All right. Let's get back your original question about John Michael Vincent. He took a bad turn. He had substance abuse issues. When did he take the time? Chad McQueen, after Steve died, started producing movies and acting in movies. And he had Jan Michael Vincent on the tail him in his career, post-air Wolf, post-everything, to star in this movie. Right before the movie was made, Jan had a bad car accident, went right through the windshield,
Starting point is 00:51:51 cut up that beautiful face he had you know all whatever and he had abuse problems drugs and alcohol and now if you pull up a picture he's like 72 or 74 he's had to have his leg amputated due to i think diabetes take a look at him lee pull up a picture uh okay jan j a n j a n jane oh no jim michael vinson or don johnson uh pull up jane michael vinson first hold on don johnson he was right on don john oh okay we'll be married first uh he married married married Melanie Griffith. Melinda Griffith first. Yeah, but he dated somebody when he was,
Starting point is 00:52:25 she was older than he was. That's why the Melanie Griffin marriage was kinky. Because he dated her mother. She was young when she met him. She was like 16 or 18 years old. Well, yeah, she dated. She was 15 when they first started living together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:40 But then they remarried in 89. You know, she married Antonio Banderas. Right. You know he had open heart surgery a few years ago? Heart surgery. Are they still together, Karen Antonio? No. No.
Starting point is 00:52:51 No, no, I don't think they're. So you pull up Jam Michael Mitz, you're not going to believe this picture. But you're right. I saw him maybe 20 years ago. He had no teeth. I didn't see him physically. Somebody brought a picture of him up.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Where is he living? Well, he had a ranch north of where I lived in Malibu. There he is there. Look at him young and look at him now. It's crazy. That was Brad Pitt. You're right. That's the best way to put it.
Starting point is 00:53:17 He was the original Brad Pitt. Amputated. And his leg. got amputated for what reason? I think because he developed diabetes. He lost a limb to infection. Yeah, there you are. Lord bless his self.
Starting point is 00:53:33 He's 12 years older than I am. This poor guy. He's got a glass eye. I mean, he's just a mess. That's really fucking sad. It's sad. That guy had the world. By the fingertips.
Starting point is 00:53:46 By the ball. He said the hardest thing he ever did, he told me. He said he loved making the movies. But the hardest thing you did, as you know, it's the TV's hard. You get a series. You're on that damn set, 12, 16 hours. hours a day. He goes, it's the hardest he ever did was the Airwolf series. You know, it's crazy going back all that. What a shame. Yeah. I mean, so yeah, I didn't know how to speak the language. So my original hero,
Starting point is 00:54:09 I loved Dick Van Dyke. Dick Van Dyke was my, that was how I learned how to speak English. He is, I was watching Dick Van Dyke. Because of his ability to articulate and the way he would talk. He is one of the nicest manual. Yeah, yeah, I did a movie with him. He doesn't, well, he wasn't, he wasn't, about two months or 90 walking around. I think he still lives at the Marina Towers. Yeah. I should say that. But anyway, in Marina,
Starting point is 00:54:32 that way, see him all the time. He just did a live TV show, didn't he, like, Marry Poppins? Yeah, he did a Mary Poppins. That's right. He did a scene and Marry Poppins. He was great. No, you mean the movie?
Starting point is 00:54:41 The original. Yeah, the new one. He was the car. No, no, the new one. No, no one. He was dancing around. 90, dancing around. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Well, he's a showman. You're talking about a great showman. I mean, listen, I don't mean to sound like I'm getting older and we always do that on my day and my day but isn't it different today the types of talent that that we see today I think that I think for the last 15 years when they give people an Oscar you can wipe your ass with that Oscar like the guy from and I don't I'm not saying nothing bad about him I'm not disrespecting him what's the movie with the chick that beat out the husband ex-husband a couple of years back he hurt locker her locker the guy that
Starting point is 00:55:24 I won the economy Herd locker. Herd locker, yeah. That guy didn't have the class to win the Academy Award for her. You tell you, was that Rennie? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Yeah. There's a bin. They don't have what that, they don't have that movie star. Let me give you one like that. Sinatra. Uh, that rat packish.
Starting point is 00:55:40 No, it's different. That Colburn. Let me, let me say this. Movie star. It is thrown out so cheaply today. Because what I grew up to appreciate movie star. John Wayne is a movie star.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Other way, his new whiskey's gonna sponsor the podcast. He's a whiskey? I just got a bottle of the other day, the Duke. The Duke, I gotta check it out. His son's coming out with a whiskey. I met him. I just got the bottle of the other day. I was gonna try it up tonight, maybe.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Can I tell you my John Wayne story? You met John Wayne. I met John Wayne. Did you meet all these motherfuckers in Malibu? No, I met John Wayne in Dallas, Texas. I was 10 years old, roughly, and the movie True Grit came out, right? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:56:24 So back in those days, they had premieres. And you bought a ticket to the premiere, right? People were lined up around the block, you know, the old days. So we're out of theater. My dad got us two tickets to the theater, right? My brother and I were like 10 and 12, let's say, 8 and 10. I don't know exactly. I got to go look.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I wrote about it in my book, but I can't tell you exactly. So we're in the theater. The theater's packed. We have the two end seats about two thirds down, right? Down comes John Wayne in the aisle beside my seat. We turn around and he looks like a giant, right? A giant. It's John Wayne, right?
Starting point is 00:57:00 He walks by, I'm all shaking, and I go, hey, Duke, right? He does like a little 180, he turns around him. He goes, hey, little pilgrim. My brothers in my jaw went, are you kidding? He talked to us. He called me Little Pilgrim. I will never forget that the rest of my life. One other one I don't forget is when I was five and Brian was seven,
Starting point is 00:57:23 We were in Philadelphia, and this tall black man walked in, who he recognized from sports. And we went and said hi to him, just like he walked by. I said, hi. He turned around and spent five to ten minutes talking to us. You know what his name was? Cassius Clay. Not Muhammad Ali. Cassius Clay.
Starting point is 00:57:43 That five to ten minutes that he spent with me as a kid and my brother Brian had an effect on me, just like John Wayne, that I remember for the rest of my life. And this is one of the reasons I know you see me in shows. I never say no to an autograph. I never say no to pictures as long as everybody's respectful. But above all, I never say no to children because the effect you can have on a kid, right? Do you want that to be the most positive, confirming experience they can have when you had a chance to share your presence with them, right? I always believe we should be role models.
Starting point is 00:58:15 We're out there, you know, we have to get back. Those are like two experiences that true effects on me. True effects, but John Wayne. And Glenn Campbell was behind him, no offense. John Wayne, right? Now let me give you my other big idol. I wish, you ask yourself, out of all the film stars and stuff, what one or two would you love to have dinner with, to sit down and spend an evening with, right?
Starting point is 00:58:39 You know what mine is? Arrow Flynn. I read his biography, My Wicked Wicked Ways. I grew up watching all his movies. I friggin' love that he was just such a star. I loved that he was tough and he would fight stuff. And he stood up for himself, you know, just a New Zealand tough guy, traveled the world, just an adventurer Just something about it, man. Just there's no Aero Flynn's today, you know, there's no John Wains today
Starting point is 00:59:06 When I was growing up, I'm sorry if I sound old-fashioned, but I mean, there's some exceptions I mean, sitting there eating dinner one night. What's that? I remember sitting there eating dinner as a kid And my hero crushed my hero. Who? Because I grew up in a fucking immigrant fucking house and we were immigrants and I made a big deal I go mom let me not eat you I want to watch Batman she looked me straight in the face but she goes Batman's a faggot what he's talking about she goes Batman who money gone I said it she's right because he wears a cape and then she would sing me the Batman song in Spanish the Adam West man got Batman tell I met him a gulo Batman and I would say stop it stop it so my superhero shit went out the window right
Starting point is 00:59:50 You know, I went to, I was raised, I was very fortunate and had somebody like you in my life. My dad died when I was three. But the guy who baptized me picked me up every Saturday on 88th Street. It took me to 42nd Street to watch movies. And I only seen two kid movies. The love bug, the world's greatest athlete. After that, it was all the Valachi papers. He would just tell me not to tell my mother.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Don't say nothing to you. That's back on the rating system, you know. No, there was no. No rating system back then? There was no, no, no, the only are you paying, there was New York City in the 70s. You know, and nobody had that shit. It's like, do you remember when Midnight Cowboy came out
Starting point is 01:00:32 and it was raided X? Yeah, yeah, there was no, remember in the 70s when you could just go, hey, my father sent me to the store. He wants a bottle of whiskey and a pack of cigarettes. All right, and they gave it to you. Until one day your father came in, and the guy goes, your son keeps coming in for cigarettes. I don't smoke.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You got a fucking beat. You know what I'm saying? I don't drink. I don't drink or smoke. What the fuck are you talking about? Man, I would never love. It was a different country. Different, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:54 It was a very different country. So if you went to a rated X with your parent on 40 seconds, as long as you covered the spread and the kid wasn't going to have a nightmare, take them in. You know my big rated X story? Okay, back in Santa Monica Boulevard when they, the, okay, let's go back to Boogie Knights. So you were raised all here. No. Pretty much.
Starting point is 01:01:16 No, no. Philly to how old? 15 on. I moved out here from. Philadelphia when I was 15 to Malibu which was like culture shock Joey right no tremendous it was culture I never saw beautiful blonde girls like that running out of the beach no no you never saw beach I had that's not a beach in Philadelphia Atlantic City no no yeah you go in there to get the measles yeah so I didn't even
Starting point is 01:01:37 notice that Delaware is number one fucking state for cancer sure because Philly and New Jersey piss in the water and dump all this shit and it's and it ends in Dover oh Jesus whatever the fuck is Delaware there God so you've been out here you were 15. I came out of her at 15. And Malibu was a, because I've heard stories completely different.
Starting point is 01:01:55 That Malibu was like your neighbor was Sinatra. You heard me? And this guy was this guy. And up the corner lived this guy. Here's the thing. People think, oh, you lived to Malibu.
Starting point is 01:02:05 And nobody came up to, like TMZ didn't come up your book. No, no. No, it was a different world. Nobody came to your house with a camera and knocked on your door. If a camera went to Steve McQueen's house, he punched him out.
Starting point is 01:02:15 He knocked the fuck out of him. He knocked him out. You know, I guess so many stories about that. But listen, 15, going out to Malibu, hormones flying, all I want to do was lose my virginity and learn how to surf first. And then I became Baywatch before Baywatch and everything else followed its natural course. But people think when you live in Malibu, you have to be rich. No, that's not true. We were middle class. And I wrote about it in my book. My family and I went broke on more
Starting point is 01:02:38 than one occasion. As a family unit, we picked ourselves up. I borrowed $75 for my mom when I was 16 to go, or a weekend skiing and mammoth. That's all it took, $75 with all my friends. That It was my share of the gas, my share of the condo, the lift tickets, the whole bit. I didn't have it. I was like 16, right? I wasn't working actively at that time. My mom said, I don't have a son. She came to me two days later, had to me $75.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I went on my trip, had a great trip. Two weeks later, I'm up at one in the morning, over here, my parents in the next room, talking about it. They can't pay the $5.75 month rent we had for the house that month. What are we going to do? My mother gave me $75 to go and join myself. I told myself I would never borrow money for my parents again, and I'd start working, I started my first business making jewelry in high school, started pulling down $1,000 a month.
Starting point is 01:03:21 If my parents needed money, I gave it to them. That's the kind of thing I think kids needs to go through to learn the self-worth and the ability to take care of things and not be so entitled and have everything given to them. I'm real big on that. Okay? What do we know if we don't know and we don't do it, right? So at different times, Joey.
Starting point is 01:03:37 I'm raising my daughter, 70-style. I'm raising my daughter the same way my mother raised me. I'm very, I live in an area here where all the answers, unless you have a kid, all the answers to your questions that you ask of what's going on in society, you have no idea. Because it's a different world out there. I go to the YMCA, I take a swimming at the YMCA. You know how many times I went to the YMCA and saw the parents sitting outside the pool texting and their kids in the pool with the nanny? That's horrible. With the nanny.
Starting point is 01:04:11 That's horrible. All these white kids with men. Mexican fucking nannies and their parents sitting outside texting. Where's the bond with you and your child? The only bond that they give now is the money bond. Everything is replaced by money. My daughter goes to a self-defense school. I know who the celebrity kids are there
Starting point is 01:04:32 because their parents never show up. They dropped off by Uber. They're eight and nines. You don't have a parent to come watch you. Not one parent to come watch you. I'm a godfather. I picked my boys up from school three times a week, and I'm busier than now. I watched Rogan last week.
Starting point is 01:04:47 He was talking about going to a restaurant, and both parents were on their phones, and the two kids both had iPads, and nobody was talking to one or not. If that doesn't tell what we're trying to come across here, what we're talking about, that tells him. I don't happen with me. I communicate. That's why I don't like, listen, by nine years ago, a commercial came on, and a guy comes into, like, a sales room, and he goes, he starts giving out plane tickets. And he goes, all right, ladies and gentlemen, the vacation's all more.
Starting point is 01:05:15 No more emails, no more of this shit. We're going back to better-to-belly sales. This is a commercial for, like, copiers or something. And I said, in my world, I don't care if it's 2018 or 2019, I don't care about the technology. I'm the San Francisco 49ers in 1981. Dallas was coming in here and giving me two points. This is my house. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:41 This is how I live my life So if you want a text You can text all you want You can text all you want I'm not going to text you back I don't go into those holes But I know that I live live my life
Starting point is 01:05:53 And you missed a thousand dollar gig Well sorry You didn't fucking call me You know I'm one of those guys It's my playing field You and I touched on this before Before I go into one thing
Starting point is 01:06:05 Malibu back then Today you have to have money to live Malve It's just expensive Back then the Rich all lived at the beach, right? The middle class, we lived in the canyons, you know, we did whatever. I was only a quarter mile from the beach and, you know, McQueen was down right on the beach, whatever, along with, you name it that lived on the Spielberg and Stallone and, you know, Dustin Hoffman, on and on and on, they're all picking their fruit and feeling their bananas like everybody
Starting point is 01:06:29 else in the market. They put on their pants like we do, they do everything else. I don't get, I don't get it crazy when I see celebrities. But there are a couple that have blown me away, And that was obviously John Wayne, obviously, Cassius Clay. And obviously the first time I met Steve McQueen, right? And then it just, we became friends and everything became cool. And it just taught me a lot about that. Listen, one of Ali's daughters. Layla.
Starting point is 01:06:52 The other one, used to do comedy. I didn't know that. My picture's up on the wall in the store. And she came one night and she goes, my father's coming to watch me. As soon as I heard that I got my car and I left. Seriously. Because I would have a nervous breakdown. he probably talked about him.
Starting point is 01:07:09 He was, no, I know he was great. He was great. No entourage. I know all those things about him. Joey, remember when we talked, you were on my show last, we both have, we have things in common. We have one big thing in common. We both, I owned and ran telemarketing companies, you know, in my 20s and my 30s,
Starting point is 01:07:27 and you did the telemarketing too. And we both talk about how much we learned from telemarketing back in those days, you know, running boiler rooms with 100 salespeople and, you know, to all that type stuff and the experience we had. Muhammad Ali next to my one of my offices in West LA used to be a school and I met Muhammad many times over the years he will come to the school to pick up his kids right no entourage no nothing you know what he did for the kids when they came out of school magic tricks for like 10-15 minutes this is Muhammad Ali today entourage is I need this guy I need that guy the but a bing but a boom you know it's like it's just different Joey you know I'm not that guy
Starting point is 01:08:07 I know I have this little little niche level compared to these big stars and everything But I just like to keep it real Joey just it's just more comfortable for me We came from I came from a different place You know I came from a different place also where I'm not I'm not It takes a lot to fucking impress the shit out of me A lot the only guy chased when I moved here. I was at Joe Rogan in this super one day And that the light next to the
Starting point is 01:08:37 This was James Colburn in the Accura NSX. Love James Cole. And I go, Rogan chase that motherfucker. And Rogan's like, I don't want to lose my license. I'm like, chase that motherfucker. We chased him, and then they just blew away from us. They ended up working on Arliss with him. I love that show.
Starting point is 01:08:52 So I did two episodes. Love that show. Talk to him a little bit. Yeah. The second. I did one episode, but I worked two days. Yeah, yeah. And the next day I brought up Bruce Lee and, you know.
Starting point is 01:09:01 He trained with him. Yeah, he trained. And so did McQueen. I had a, I think Richard Pree. was one of my big idols growing up. Like a lot of my friends still say, I still remember you bringing the albums over. I saw them at the comedy store.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Yeah, I saw them at the comedy. Back in the 70s, you could see everybody, everybody. Did you used to go to a comedy store then also? When I was in high school, I learned that the greatest date in the world is to take your girl to dinner and go to the comedy store. Because you comedians closed up that deal
Starting point is 01:09:31 for that night just by making her lap. Girls love one thing more than anything, along with many things they love. They love to laugh. If you can make your girl laugh, you're told me, it's over. While they're laughing, you slip your dick right now. He said it.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I didn't. Anyway, I would go to the comedy store back. I started going into the comedy store in 1975, right? I think Missy opened it only a few years before that or so. David Letterman was the host every night at the Westwood Comedy Store, which was on Westwood Boulevard. And I would go up and I used to, time that the rain the fires came I've been through every fire in Malibu which is
Starting point is 01:10:12 terrifically I mean this last time I called you you called me thank you Joey that's right and you called make sure we were safe yeah was in England and I appreciate I had but that I sold my home in Malibu I'm now in another area by the beach and you know but I thank you so much so there was so nice so you were good dude I lost believe me terrific firemen always yeah firemen of firemen they got tough fucking jobs in LA so when the when the fire's hit and then the rain come the mudslides happen so one of the roads came down which closed off you know there's only one way in and out of Malibu from Santa Monica right otherwise you're gonna drive another
Starting point is 01:10:45 hour all the way around so my offices were in Santa Monica and I could not get to Santa Monica so my company at the time and I'm like a 21 year old kid right and you know I own part of the company so I wound up living at the Hyatt house which back then used to be called the riot house you live next I live next to the comedy story you was This is going back. I'm going to call this at 19. To be safe. I'm going to call this at 1978, 79.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Wow. Okay? So I lived there for almost two months. You know what I did every night, Joey? I went to the comedy store. I was there, I'd say at least five out of seven nights. Saw everybody. Robin Williams, you name it.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Jim Carrey at 18. Rino was just saying, oh, my God, this guy's going to be one of the biggest talents in the world. Dice Clay when he was sleeping on Missy's couch, you know. I won't trade in those. experience for the world walking in and there's Santana walking in and Led Zebelan walking out and these are the days when they used to throw the
Starting point is 01:11:43 TVs for the windows remember the almost famous days by the way Bohemian Rhapsody one of the greatest movies I've ever seen have you seen it yet yeah yeah I got it at the house is incredible screen it's not the greatest movie I'm excited because I just watched it five days ago it was damn good it was damn it was it was for today's standards
Starting point is 01:12:00 today's standards it was good it was really good Ramey Malick he's up for the board Yeah, he's getting a sound. Great job. But anyway, there was the days back then. You know, it's just different. I used to have, I think I saw every concert that came in and out of the form.
Starting point is 01:12:16 You'd name it, I saw it. You know, just one of the things I loved to do. What you were doing out here, I was doing in New York. Yeah, okay. It was the same type. You're hitting Dangerfield. You're hitting that way back there. Never went to a comedy club.
Starting point is 01:12:26 No? I was in Madison Square Garden type of motherfucker. Oh, okay. I went to see Sinatra one time at Radio City. But it's like we were just talking about this earlier. on a podcast last week about how there's no middle class. Like when I was a kid, I went to a Nick game.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah. You know, what are you doing tonight? Nothing. You're going to sit at home like an asshole? We've got a half hour. We can make it to a Nick game. Let's go. We'll miss the first 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Right. Let's go to a Nick game, and we go watch it. And you're still home. The game started at 7.30. So you're home by 9.30, 10. You know what I'm saying? So I grew up watching the Nick game.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And it's so weird how families today cannot afford to go to a Laker game. Do you know how? A family of three can. if not afford to go to Olegic again. Add it up. And it eats me up alive. Between the parking, the tickets, the food is
Starting point is 01:13:11 300 bucks, 400 bucks. You know, somebody a couple weeks ago. So that type of shit burns me up that I had. I loved basketball growing up. I loved Bernard King. I loved Julius Irving. Oh.
Starting point is 01:13:23 I loved all that shit. But I had dinner with Julius Irving when did you? In Utah. My brother, I had him announce the Chicago Bulls against the Utah Jazz in Utah. when Michael Jordan was sick as a dog throwing up before the game,
Starting point is 01:13:39 had six or seven points during the game. This is game five, right? They're down by like 15 points. I don't know exactly for those watching. He comes out at halftime. One of the greatest single-man performances I've seen in my life, scored like 42 points, won the game, won the series. I had Michael set off the game.
Starting point is 01:13:58 I'm on the floor with them celebrating. The confetti's coming down. Man, I'm telling you, Joey, it's not all about the paycheck. It's about these experiences that we learn from. That's a million-dollar experience. Incredible. You know, just to see that. I'm going to tell you a story real quick.
Starting point is 01:14:12 You touched on Frank Snottra. I had the pleasure of seeing him three times in concert. Two of the times I saw him, my dad used to be a boss gambler at the Riviera hotel in Vegas, where they film the movie, Casino. Now, back in 72 to 75, who was running Vegas, Joey? Okay, our friends.
Starting point is 01:14:32 You know what I'm saying? it wasn't the bean counters and the corporations and all and the Riviera was one of the hottest spots in the world. Now, back then when you look at a pit boss and you're a boss gambler, my dad, I was playing, I was playing blackjack when I was 18, 19 years old, thanks to my dad in casinos, right? Cutting my teeth on the blackjack tables, right? My brother Brian, too. Shecky Green, one of the greatest comedians ever. Come on, do you like Shecky Green? Yeah. I love Shecky Green. I'd seen him a million times for it, right? So we saw Shecky Green one night.
Starting point is 01:15:03 So we're in Delmonico's, you know, Downes and some lobsters, courtesy of the Revere Hotel because we didn't pay for anything, right? They didn't care if you gambled or not. We got the Frank Sinatra suite. Dinner's paid. Just come have a good time. That's the way it was back then.
Starting point is 01:15:15 It was different, right? So my dad says, well, sons, you know, where do you want to go? Elvis Presley's over at the Hilton, one of his last concert tours, right? The bloated Elvis, whatever, but I never saw Elvis. And so, Brian, I look at each other. You know, Shakey Green was really funny, Brian, wasn't he? Let's go see Shecky Green again tonight. my dad could have had his first road to Elvis Presley.
Starting point is 01:15:36 I would have had a chance to see the king, Elvis Presley, one time. Just to say I saw him one time. I regret that to this day, Joey. I regret that. I saw Barbara Streisand, Liza Minnelly. I mean, you name it. Frank Sinatra. You name it back then.
Starting point is 01:15:49 It was just easy. Nowadays, it's Ticketron. Buy your ticket stand in line. That's not for me. I hate standing in line, personally. This morning I drove. I had to go to GNC to get my little energy thing. and I saw a bunch of people standing in front of eat.
Starting point is 01:16:05 I fucking opened my window, yelled at the midst of 10.30, there was 40 people waiting online for fucking eggs. How retarded. What is that? Depression? Me? No, it sounded like the Depression. They're waiting in line for bread. Waiting online for eggs.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Really? Over at eat. There's a little, like, you know, a little restaurant. And it isn't bad. It's one of your favorite little places, I guess. No, no, it's not one of my favorites. No, not at all. It's a nice place.
Starting point is 01:16:28 I'll go with my wife there on Thursday. Okay. After we dropped the baby house sometimes. Because the baby likes fucking Denny's. She likes the pancakes and the waiter at Denny's. They've been friends for years. So I don't get to go to you. But my point being that it's one of those restaurants
Starting point is 01:16:43 where people stand online to get breakfast on Sundays. Yeah, the brunch. And nothing bothers me more than gets on my nerves. And I was right there at the light where you could beep at them and go, what the fuck are you doing? And they just look at me and I just keep going. Then on the way back, I beep out. You fucking dummies,
Starting point is 01:17:02 eggs everybody got eggs. And you're waiting out of line for those. I guess you're saying if there's a steak fraud Diablo or a lobster something. Lopser frab Diablo. Lopser for diablo. One of my favorite dishes from the past. How about pasta? You know what my favorites is?
Starting point is 01:17:18 Spaghetti Putanesca. Now, you know why they call Puttneseca. What that is, Lee, it's called horse pasta, right? They used to get together and just put everything in the could in the pot, right? To make some good pasta. It's called Putaneska. Very popular dishes. Very popular.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Olive. Yeah. Isn't it the olivey one? It's got a lot of olives to put it. It's got the olives. Yeah, it's good. All that stuff. It's good.
Starting point is 01:17:40 How good are you at poker? Like, if you had to rate somebody from one to ten, how good are you at poker? Now, you've been playing all these years. I'm going to have Lee do something for us, okay? And you tell me how good I am. Lee? No, no, no, no. I want you to tell me.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I'm prorated. I can play top pro-rated. Are you pro-rated? I am. And do you do all the stuff in Vegas and stuff like that? Yeah. When I get time, the World Series of poker is one that, you know, every poker wants to play at. I just got back from the Bahamas where poker stars flew me down and I played a $25,000 entry tournament.
Starting point is 01:18:12 You'd have to pay $25,000 cash to enter. But first prize is $5.1 million. Now, I played the main event in Vegas. I went out on, I got out on day two. My entry fee, you know, you put up the $25,000, you know, you take the shot, right? 5.1 million. Somebody wins, Joey. But you're playing against.
Starting point is 01:18:29 animals. It's fine. You know why? When I stand across and I have to fight somebody, you know, spar or somebody, whatever, when I'm standing across and, you know, I got to maybe have an announce off or something like that or if I'm standing across, sitting across from you playing poker,
Starting point is 01:18:44 you bleed like I do. You breathe like I do. I've got a heart. You've got a brain. I try not to get intimidated. I have been in the past, but I know my skills. So I look at it like this.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Everything I do in life comes down to three letters. B-S-C stands for balls, skill, and confidence. And if I'm lacking any one of those three qualities, I'm not going to sit down at the table. But you also need that 20% luck factor. Always got to have that 20% luck factor to win. I played the top pros in the World Series of Poker. Last time I played the main event was about five years ago.
Starting point is 01:19:19 I was in the top 10% of chip leaders for five days, Joey, 12 hours a day, you're playing poker, right? You make one mistake, you're gone. It's like fighting, you know, and there's an endurance level that goes with that which makes it kind of a sport or is a sport because it's mentally you know and physically wearing right you make one wrong mistake you're knocked off just like you get knocked out in the octagon and the i the feeling you get when you take somebody for an all-in as they say and and you take their chips it's almost like knocking them out you know i'm not at the poker table to make friends i never lie in
Starting point is 01:19:52 person i never lie to you joey i tell the truth all day long or i don't talk right but at the poker table it's legal a lie and i do what it takes to win and i want your chips it's as simple as that how many tournaments do do we yeah i try to do i used to be on full tilts team i was on full tilt poker two full tilt poker's team okay if you remember that site remember back in the wild days the wild west when everybody was happening it was a black friday back then when the government you know cabosh full tilt poker two months before that happened the owners called me up and they said you're playing so well you know i've got won a couple titles wants some money course with the UFC status, they go, we're going to, I was what they call Red Pro. They paid me like
Starting point is 01:20:31 $35 an hour to play and they gave me all my rate back, which amount of the thousands you can make each month. Then they said, well, we're going to put you in all the TV commercials. We're going to pay all your entry fees into the World Series. We negotiated a 70-30 cut, meaning I get to keep 70% of the winnings, right? And some of those entries are 10,000, 5,000, you know, it adds up, Joey, right? So do me a favor. Go to cardplayer.com. And you'll see a thing on the top says players. And just put in my name, there's no hiding it. I don't lie.
Starting point is 01:21:02 People walk up to you and say, hey, I won $5,000 last night playing poker or playing blackjack. Well, that guy doesn't tell you about the 10 times he lost two or three times. Right, right. Nobody would tell you. He just tells you when he won. Okay. I have a program on my computer for 14, 15 years now.
Starting point is 01:21:18 No matter where I play, poker, blackjack, football bet. I only bet on football. I never bet fights. Equal Opportunity announcer. I play poker, I bet football games, and I play blackjack. I will tell you, I can tell you everywhere I played, the date I played, where I played, what I played, how much I won, how much I lost, tally at the end of the month, tally at the end of the year. Why? Because I'm real with myself.
Starting point is 01:21:40 I treated like a business. And I've only had two losing years in 15 years, honest to God. Cardplayer.com, how much money is to say I have won in the pro circuit against the pros, Joey? I have top caches and recent caches. What's the total amount? Oh, here we go. Oh, total winnings. 338, 814.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Say it so people understand it. $338,8,814. I can play. I can play. And now, what's the rake real quick? Okay, you saw Molly's game. Yes, I saw it. I loved it.
Starting point is 01:22:12 I played with those people, Joey. I have. And the game got too big. You can lose everything you have friggin' own in your life. And one night. Guys sitting down playing two, 400 blinds, putting quarter million dollars on the table. You're 20,000 in. Somebody raises it to 80,000. You got a pair of kings and there's an ace on the board. You're sweating balls. What do you do? It's pressure, Joey. And you don't want to play beyond your means. So the rake. What they meant in the rake, which she said she did not rake the games until towards the end. But any poker player, including Gary is a big, big poker player. It's like, you don't make the five million she made. I think, you know, that's just not on tips. They do tip a lot. You'd be a amazed how much money flies around these games. So, you know, you get the good looking girls to
Starting point is 01:22:59 serve you, you get the gourmet chefs, you put up the man's cave and you have a game. So the rake is you go into a game in some of these games and they'll say, because casinos rake the tables, that's how they make their money, right? But they take a short rake. In these games, they'll take like, say, 5% of the pot. So let's say in one of these big games, like Molly's game, where those hands, as an example, could be anywhere from a $20,000 to a $50,000 hand. pull a 5% if you're playing 30 hands 20 30 hands an hour
Starting point is 01:23:30 do the math look how much being raked off that table right that's how those kind of games as they depicted in the theater that's what the rake is but if you do that you're a casino and that makes it illegal right so home games there should be no rake you pull out a $5 like what we do in my home games
Starting point is 01:23:49 you pull out a $5 chip to add up over the night to pay for all the food you bought for the group right Everybody's cool about that, right? When you do your games, you don't make a profit on your game. I try to make profit by playing and winning. That's where it is. But you know, the house isn't making any money. No, it's, you're not supposed to, Joey, this is illegal.
Starting point is 01:24:07 So it's breaking a table. Like I said, I'm not a card gal. No, it's okay. I'm not a dice guy. But in Molly's game, it's all right there. People that don't understand and watch it. I found that to be a really good movie. I thought it was true.
Starting point is 01:24:17 She's great. I'm big fan of. She's great. I watch all the movies on the point. She does it for me, Joe. She does it for me. Anything? Oh, she does it for me too. Oh, she's, I love redheads.
Starting point is 01:24:25 When she's on skis, I'm almost having a fucking hot effect. In Fuego. She's fucking beautiful. What is your schedule looking like? What is your next card game? Tomorrow night. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:37 And you do one a month? Yeah, I try to do one a month. You know, I built a poker room in my house and BBO poker tables. If you guys want to find a great place to custom-made poker tables, BBO poker tables fantastic, they may be a beautiful table. They put an image of me jumping in the middle of the table. And, you know, but like, it's just beautiful. And it's in my game room.
Starting point is 01:24:58 It's where, you know, a lot of collectibles. And I have built a game room in my house. And, you know, I've got the chef coming in tomorrow, making the food. You know what the menu is tomorrow night? You ready? The best, best baby back ribs you'll ever eat in your life. Sauce on the side. Not everybody wants the sauce.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Great mashed potatoes, cornbread, red velvet cake for dessert. Johnny Walker Blue Label, what you want, you got it, you're at my house, let's enjoy ourselves, pull $10 a hand out of the thing to pay for the food, you know? There we go. I wind up going to the hole anyway.
Starting point is 01:25:33 I spend more money than I did. It costs a lot of money, but I've got some really good friends, action players. And it's a man cave. It's great. You sit around with your friends. Some girls are really good players too.
Starting point is 01:25:43 You know, they come over and just have a good time, especially when the Monday night football games or something's happening. It's just a good excuse. to kick back. I was in a game last night. I went downtown. I think I played a four in the morning. I slept till 12. But you know what? I got the weekend off, Joey. When do I get a weekend off? You know? I know. This is a slow one. It's, I love it. And people say, why don't you take a vacation? I'm home. I'm living a vacation. I'm home. I love being on the road. I love when I get home.
Starting point is 01:26:10 What is your next fight? Melbourne, Australia. When? Two weeks. Oh, that's right. I love Melbourne. Speaking of poker, they have one of the greatest poker casinos in the world they're the crown casino and there's some good action players there so i'll be down there so you play polka all around the world yeah if i'm in if i'm around the world anywhere there's a poker room i'd like to relax with the night before show i don't i don't drink a lot joey and i'm like i'm like a nun the night before a show i want to be ready yeah no i want to be 150% for show night right not 24 no yeah you got to go to bed early i could so party like i get so party like i'm 24 i'd probably die if i did some of the stuff i did when i was 24 i wish i could do
Starting point is 01:26:49 I can't even party when I was 54 now. Okay. I can't even do what I was doing two years ago no more. I stopped with the edibles. You said they were hurting your stomach. They weren't hurt in my stomach. I just felt that there was something going on. I didn't know what it was and I ended up finding out
Starting point is 01:27:04 I was lactosellular. Oh, there you go. But now I don't really want to eat. CBDs, you're doing the CBD oils? A little bit. You do the CBD water. I believe in them so much. I love them.
Starting point is 01:27:15 I mean, listen, you can know what your pharmacy is. We all know the marijuana. Well, I've talked about it on my podcast forever. Marijuana should be legalized, them all for it, whether I do it or not. That's, it's not the case. I just believe it should be legalized. The whole thing about CBDs, I'm tired of NFL players getting addicted to opiates because they stuff them down their throat, right? I think Terrell Davis from the, from the Broncos, if not mistaken, just went public and said, if he had CBDs, he would have a longer career in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:27:43 I mean, my friend's mother suffers from MS. Couldn't walk. CBDs two weeks later she's walking Joey no it's it's walking it's phenomenal it's phenomenal it really is Joe Montana just made a major investment in a marijuana company right that's going to be big in California you know this is the while while West people are getting in there it's legal ice and everybody the game is in it's real it's better for you than drinking those straight shots of bourbon and scotch you and I both know that you know those anxiety pills well anxiety I have something for
Starting point is 01:28:17 Always a pleasure when you come on this fucking show. What did you bring us today? Okay. Ready? Yeah. All right. My friend Dave Manley owns a company named MMA bobbleheads.com. Have you seen these yet?
Starting point is 01:28:28 Yeah. Okay. He's amazing. And he really did. I appreciate this man so much because he's so passionate about his business. And he makes the best figures ever. So he made one of me, Cowboy Soroni, Brian Ortega. There's a real cool one coming out, but I can't mention name.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Chuck Liddell. so here this is there's only a thousand of these made and this is my gift to you thank you brother so open it up a bruce buffer bobblehead look at the quality and the detail though he's it's unbelievable even the box is nice yeah it comes with a certificate of authenticity pull it gently out and they can see it very nice i wonder what this will go for in 30 years with the tuxedo and everything yeah well they sell check out the fight card Look at the detail on the fight card. Let me show you some, Joe.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Here, I'm going to get over here. I got to get glasses and I got to get a bunch of it. I can't see. I believe you. Here. That's one. Fucking beautiful. Now what he's done is he took it another step further for Christmas.
Starting point is 01:29:32 And you can have mini B Christmas ornament. I like it. Is that great? Now here's an example of collectibles. You remember round five, the figures they made, the other figurines that were made for the UFC called Round Five. You, there you go, Joey. Now you're in my heart all the time.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Oh, my pleasure. Right there. So they made a thousand of those round five. And when they first came out with the one, I know for mine, you could buy it for like $39 bucks. You can't touch it on eBay for under $250 now. There's only a thousand of these. These originally sold signed for like 79, 39, 39 unsigned.
Starting point is 01:30:09 But not just mine, but the others because they're limited and made so well, this will be a $500, three to $500 item in about three years, my prediction. knowing collectibles. Not because it's me. Screw that. Screw that. It's just supply and demand. They're not making this.
Starting point is 01:30:25 They don't make action figures for any. This is it. Ten years from now, we'll be watching porn stars and somebody will come in with their... Somebody me. Somebody will come in with their little Bruce Buffer. Don't...
Starting point is 01:30:35 M.M.A. Do you? Don't throw away your stuff. I got some big things that we'll be talking about this year. I can't mention them right now. I just had a really cool cameo in the Holmes and Watson movie with Wolf Farrow,
Starting point is 01:30:46 one of the nicest guys ever met my life and and Riley who's so talented what a great character actor he is that guy right um got a couple big announcers some products coming out surrounding let's get ready at rumble and my it's time trademark but you know what joey you know what's really taken off big is um at bruce buffer com i always got approach to do championship introductions and i did i mean people were paying me some ridiculous money for him but the fans are so great okay i'm all about the fans and i give way i give partial proceeds to children military and animal charities like I just gave to make a wish and I do champions for audio and videos where anybody I did this for you before
Starting point is 01:31:27 when I was on the show where I introduced you like a champion in the cage just got your championship now people ordering audios like Steve A Miochich I did a birth of a baby the birth of his baby then he put it on social media I'm doing more birth of babies announcements you know coming out now or whatever you know that kind of thing and weddings tons of weddings podcast intros all that stuff it's grown up into a whole another business my partner christen and i were just doing a lot and then it goes into the business aspect repeat and what people want them for products and their businesses and and i'm doing a lot of motivational speeches teaching branding and marketing and be a winner speech you know positive
Starting point is 01:32:06 i i don't want to get you worried i have a simple theory joey three-foot theory if i can make everybody happy money Enjoy their life. Then it comes back to me. I live life on a very carmic way. Pay forward. Carmic. Come back.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Right. Simple theory. Very nice. I'm happy you made the fucking trek up here. It's always a pleasure to see you. Thank you for the dolls and stuff. Do not forget bitches. Valentine's Day at the San Jose Improv.
Starting point is 01:32:39 And then the week after that, the 23rd, I'm at the Treasure Island. And the 24th, I'm at the Fox Theater in Tucson. no other Tempea Phoenix appearances so if you live in Arizona you're making the fucking track to Tucson
Starting point is 01:32:53 I want to thank my man Bruce Buffer again where's your website Bruce Buffer.com for everything right there and my podcast it's time you can catch everything
Starting point is 01:33:02 when does that get released we release every Thursday you know I've done that podcast for 10 years now before even you and Joe started you know it went back when they were kind of in their emphasis is this way for you Joey
Starting point is 01:33:14 it's a cathartic experience for me. When I'm done my podcast, I feel like I've released. It's tremendous. It's tremendous. Again, it's not about the money. No, I'm not about the money. But I'll cash that paycheck. Always. And the Christ killer. Yes, sir. The man of steel, he'll be with me Thursday night next week. Or this, tomorrow night. Yeah, tomorrow night. Tomorrow night. Who, Jimmy? Comedy store. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy will be there. All right, I want to thank my man, Bruce Buffer. I want to thank my man, the Christ killer.
Starting point is 01:33:44 But most importantly, I want to thank you guys. guys for listening. Don't forget the Fox Theater on the 23rd of February in Tucson. I'm not going at Tempe and I'm not going to Phoenix is my only Arizona appearance. So get your fucking skateboards. And on the 22nd, I'm at Treasure Island. Valentine's weekend, San Jose Improv. Tickets are available for Valentine's weekend, the weekend, the men's amends. So get to the web page now. But before I get out of, I got to talk to you about something big, all right? Everybody wants to know who's going to win the big game. Is Tom Brady and Bill Belichick going to have another championship to their Patriots dynasty or the upstart Rams and the brilliant young coach, Sean McBay, be the last team standing?
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Starting point is 01:38:49 Without you guys, we wouldn't even have a goddamn show. So listen, enjoy the Super Bowl, enjoy the families, and enjoy yourselves. Thank you very much for listening. Have a great weekend. Stay black. See you, motherfuckers Monday morning. Take that fuck at me, O'Lean. Love you guys.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Yeah, they don't want to talk about the Super Bowl. Oh, that's right.

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