The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #654 - Bruce Buffer
Episode Date: January 30, 2019Bruce Buffer, the voice of the UFC, poker player, and the host of the "IT'S TIME!" podcast, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio! This podcast is brought to you by: Hims - Go to ForHi...ms.com/joey for a trial month of everything you need to keep your hair - for just $5. My Bookie - Join now and MYBookie will match your deposit with up to a 50% bonus of your first deposit up to $1,000. www.mybookie.ag. Use Promo code CHURCH to activate the offer. Recorded live on 01/27/2019.
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Bruce Buffer.
Joey Diaz.
A fucking king of poker.
How come you weren't in rounders?
How do you fuck did you not get rid?
Even Lenny, everybody was in rounders.
Everybody was in rounders, but back when they made rounders,
that was really before I took off, you know,
in my poker world.
How long have you been playing poker?
My dad taught me how to play poker when I was nine years old.
He taught me how to play poker, which back then was a five-card draw, seven-card stud.
He taught me how to play blackjack, and he taught me about horse racing.
And he said, son, the only way to follow a horse with a shovel, don't bet on him, right?
So I never went to the track a couple times, had a great time, but I've never been a horse better.
You notice when you go to the track, with all respect, is some of the saddest-est-looking people walking around the track.
It's like, Monarchy, though.
Yeah, they got a big head.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
So I started playing cash games with my brother Brian when I was 14.
And during the summertime, we play a lot of caddies from the local country clubs who I'll have, you know, good money.
And I started making some money.
And Brian made a good amount of money.
And actually, with the money, he made in the poker games when he was 18, he took himself over to Europe for a couple of months, you know, and had a good time.
My dad was always, you know, telling us about street knowledge.
You know, we touched on it earlier, but my dad was.
old breed sure your your dad was like that just like your old breed I'm a little bit old
breed raising a kid back then was a lot different you know now we their faces are in the
screens fortnight's causing issues with families divorces everybody's on and on and on it needs
be managed totally differently and back then where with all respect the kids are on the screens
not getting better at their communication skills they're all into the technology which is fantastic
but I think it's also causing some issues I think in 10 years you're going to have a hard time
finding somebody's going to be able to walk in a room and close a deal, make a sale, you know, like a salesman, right?
Because communication skills are going to be tight.
When you were a kid and I was a kid, man, I was riding my bike to baseball games.
I was playing baseball to five o'clock.
I was going downtown.
Five o'clock.
Five o'clock.
I was up, I was out till nine.
Me too.
Okay, now we're talking.
You went out at eight.
You stayed out until dinner.
Yeah.
My mom would make me come up at lunchtime to be civilized just to slow my heartbeat down for 20 minutes.
You know what I'm saying?
Because by that time, you were already torturing.
somebody it was a full day slate yeah you know with a ball stick ball johnny rider pony uh hop peas
and butter go get your mother and walk to the corner and shoplift and then go up and throw eggs at mr
martini and then fucking mr softy would come and then go upstairs eat dinner and then if you did good at
dinner your mom will let you go out as so as long as you stayed in front of the house till nine o'clock
and you would take chances you knew when she was going in the shower so you that would give you a chance
to run around the corner and my whole thing is like I used to run across Broadway in New
York City right and I look at my daughter she's six she'll even run across fucking
you know what I'm saying here I am running my mother would say don't cross Broadway yeah and I
would run across Broadway with my friends with no lights there was no hand then no there was no 10 seconds
or but you know take your time nothing yeah but back then you know it's we live in the world of
stranger danger these days right and it's like there's
no way you can let your kids run free like that. It's a different world and it's a different
time for raising. But I thought, I'm not saying that it's bad the way the kids are being raised
because we have to adjust the way technology goes. But I think that they're not being raised as
tough as we were as kids, but even tougher the generations before me. Every computer at the house
has a timer. In your house? Yeah. Yeah. For her purposes, my purposes, my wife's purpose.
Right. My timer is my back. I have an hour to six.
And then I have to do something for an hour.
Then I have to come back for an hour.
I'm trying to write a book.
That's my, for my daughter, I get her out.
There's a rule at the house.
She's got to be out by nine.
If there's no school, I want her out of there by nine,
burn out of energy.
Nine in the morning.
Yeah, right.
I'm going to have her work in the same way I did.
She's already doing chores for the mother.
Good.
She's got a vacuum in, clean, and dust, and she gets,
I don't know how much from her mother.
You know, there's little things,
just because the world's changing.
doesn't mean I have to change.
No.
Just because the world's change doesn't mean I'm going to take a text message.
No.
You could text me to your face is green.
You hate text.
I won't.
You don't text.
No.
I think you even say it on your answering machine.
Don't text me.
No, no.
Used to.
I don't even leave a message no more.
Yeah.
I don't even,
I don't leave them.
I don't give a fuck.
I know the numbers.
If you text me and I don't know the number,
you, listen, if you text me, you got no chance.
Right.
But if you text me and I don't know your number, you really got no chance.
Oh, you got no.
a chance you got no change you're just gonna burn a slow debt yeah I like people who just
come up with a tech and I don't even get the text I won't get the text like a home they come up on
my iPad uh-huh so unless I open up my iPad you don't see him I don't see well you know it's like
even in the dating world right like if you're date or if you date a girl who's under the age
35 I'd say 30 35 used to be that dating was I love the phone calls I love conversing on the phone
It's the greatest form of mental foreplay there is before you pick up your date.
I mean, you have them interested in you, maybe, you know, romancing him, getting excited about the date.
I can't get that across in text.
No, no.
I can't do that.
And I love the whole setup of it.
I mean, honestly, I don't have that many.
I sit down, talk for an hour on the phone, half hour.
I can't believe you're saying this.
The other night, I worked brayer this last weekend.
Thursday, it took leave with me.
But the other nights I drove by myself.
Before I do a show, I enjoy myself.
Before I do a show, I like driving and no radio.
Just digging into the coconut.
I'm not even thinking about jokes.
I'm thinking about parts of my life.
Sad things, how I had that argument, Bruce Buffer in 1984, and we still don't talk.
I think about all that shit, you know?
And on the way back, I listened to the radio.
And on the way back, that song came by my Michael Jackson.
Remember the time?
And I was listening to the lyrics.
And he goes, we'd be talking on the phone all night.
And I said to myself, do people still, do kids still?
I still remember the girl's name, but I would talk to from midnight to six in the morning.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then go to the seventh grade.
Yeah.
My brother just hit me up yet.
He's an actor in New York.
Me and this girl would talk all.
I never fucked them.
If you want, I never even sucked the tithies.
Right.
That's what you did back then.
Right.
You talked for five hours on.
the phone. Right. The other night, one of these nights came on by the Eagles. That was my song
with this girl from Miami. Great song. Natasha and Rebecca, they were twins. You didn't know who you
were kissing. And I was like 10 when that song came out. 75. I was 12. And I remember that I
started my first long-distance relationship. And I didn't know about long distance. I'm picking up
the phone, Dallon, 305, eight times a day. Yep. In 1975. Yep. One day my mother came
up with 24 pages of phone bills.
It threw them at me and said,
how are you expecting to pay for this bill?
It was like an $800 phone bill.
I had to give a four out of my bank account
and work out four weeks for 10.
I would work at the bar and I would get like 80 a week,
so she took 40 a week for 10 weeks until my big was paid.
Well, you know, back in 75, I mean, the cell phone was back.
I graduated high school in 75.
Jesus,
yeah, because I've got four years on it, right?
Four?
I graduated in 82.
Well, I'm 61.
How old are you?
56th.
19th.
I got five years on you.
Five years.
Be nice to your elders.
Yes.
So,
beautiful.
Thank you.
But, you know, going back then, the telephones back then were like Michael
Douglas and Wall Street walking on the beach, you know, with the big square things.
And I remember back when they...
What was the first cell phone?
It was that big, big cell phone.
Because they had one in Escarbar and Narcos and they were fucking.
That's what I'm talking about.
Okay.
So in Escobar, they have those, what do you call those phones?
Satellite phones.
Satellite phones.
Satellite phones.
Yeah, that's what they're using there.
But this thing was like big and used to sit in the carriage in the middle of the car.
We all excited when we got our cell phones.
But my frigging cell phone bills back then.
Yes.
Worth a thousand plus.
You were paying huge amounts of time per minute back then.
It's changed so much.
Your plans were per minute.
Huge.
Your plans were 600 minutes a month.
You didn't talk much in those days.
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
Real quick.
Hello, goodbye.
I got to save our minutes and shit.
And then there was something on the phone where you could check how many minutes you had for the month or a computer page on Sprint.
Would show you how many, oh, my God.
Holy shit.
And now people, like, in their 20s and younger, they get anxiety about talking on the phone.
Like, they'll text, but they don't talk on the phone.
I think that social anxiety along with ADD is rampant these days.
Why do you think social anxiety is so big now?
I see it in a lot of, you know what I notice in kids?
When I used to walk in a room and I'd say to my dad, even as a young kid,
my dad was a Marine drill instructor, Korean World War II, 13 years in the Marine Corps,
probably has Michael, my brother, the legendary, who you've worked with,
who by the way, just got inducted into the International Sports Hall of Fame.
Yeah, he's a bad.
Yeah, he's great.
It's awesome for him.
So I'd walk in a room and I'd say, hi, dad.
He'd go, son, project your voice.
Let them know you're in the room, right?
okay dad all right and you know son look him in the eye shake their hands look them in the eye when
you talk to a man look him in the eye if he doesn't look you in the eyes something's wrong right
so i mean kids do that i notice the kids now they and i and again i love children you know i help
raise two boys henry and rupert they're about to be 11 and once 14 it's a great experience
in my life helping raise these two boys is their godfather their uncle and second father you know
and i put a lot into it but i'm noticing that kids
down. They don't look you in the eye. They don't communicate. They stand across
from each other. They're sitting on the couch like they're doing here and they're not
looking each other and talking. They're texting to each other, right? It's not teaching that in.
I don't know the proper term is intimacy, but just communication skills. You know, you walk in to get a
job. Am I going to hire you if you walk in my office looking at the floor, not making eye contact
with me, not making proper communication? Have you ever seen it with sunglasses on?
You?
Yeah. You ever seen them? No, I never have.
Lee, eight years.
No, no, no.
Don't believe in them.
Well, I came from, you're not allowed to wear sunglasses.
Why, what happened if you did?
They smack them off.
Really?
Yeah.
Really?
The time I grew up in, nobody wears sunglasses.
Interesting.
No earrings, no tattoos.
Earrings I can understand.
Nothing.
Yeah.
Nothing.
Wow.
Society, I grew up in, you walk into a room with sunglasses,
somebody would smack them off your face.
And when did that change?
What about right now?
You go back there and now.
Are they tattooed and earringed and sunglasses?
The kids I hang up are still.
are still straight like that.
Straight like that.
Just the mentality was this way of being
that was just, I don't believe in glass.
It's like the Bronx tale.
When you come in my house, you take those fucking things off.
Unless you're fucking Steve McQueen,
don't put Steve's fucking sunglasses on it, right?
Not around me.
You want to hear a quick Steve McQueen sunglass story?
Yeah.
Okay.
One of the best movies McQueen ever made
where he, people think he really did a true acting turn.
Because like you know, I was good for,
friends with him, really good friends for the last six years of his life. I surfed in front of his
house every day. He was my neighbor a quarter mile away from me in Malibu. And he had a great
search spot in front of his house. When he made the Thomas Crown Affair, right, which he dressed up
and all, he wore these blue lens per sole glasses, sunglasses, which they make today. They're the
Steve McQueen version. They fold, right? So his last wife, Barbara Minty auctioned off a bunch of his
materials. And it was the sunglasses from the Thomas Crown Affair.
They sold for $35,000.
Okay?
Nobody knows this, but when you walked in his house,
he had a little wicker basket by the front door.
There were four pair of those sunglasses in the wicker basket, right?
So like Chad, his son is one of my best friends who has auctioned off a lot of material.
His jacket from Bullet valued the one on the poster, the great movie Bullet,
valued at $800,000.
When on auction, the auction went up to $725,000.
And so they didn't sell it because that's the reserve.
It had to get 800,000.
Well, Chad told me that, chances are,
were not the original sunglasses from the...
Sorry, if anybody's listening to bought this.
I'm not trying to get me in trouble,
but it was probably not the original sunglasses.
His dad had a...
I remember myself.
He had a little wicker basket right there
with all the glasses.
Now, I actually own the poster
of the Thomas Crown Affair,
which...
Do you remember the movie?
Yes.
And then they made it.
They remade it with Pierce Brosson,
who had great job.
Good movie.
There's a scene in the film.
that movie that like when Sam Peck and Pawn made a movie called A Wild Bunch, it changed the way violence
was perceived. Tremendous movie. One of the greatest movies of all time. A story about men and honor,
even those were criminals, but story, I can recite every line from that film. I've seen it over 200 times.
Getting back to, for I lose track of what I'm saying, what was I at? Darn it. You have the poster
for the Thomas Crown. Yeah, the Thomas Crown Affair. So the scene in the Thomas Crown Affair,
when he and Fay Dunaway are playing chess. And if you remember how provocatively, she would touch the
chess pieces. This was big stuff back then. This was very risque, right? Then they kissed each other
and the camera went 360 degrees around them as they kissed with open mouth kisses. That's the first
open mouth kiss ever in Hollywood. That's what, you know, changed the art of kissing. It's one of the,
at that time considered an erotic scene. Look up Thomas Crown of her. I'm going to guess when I met
Steve in 74 for the first time, he just got done doing or 73, the getaway, just got done doing the
getaway met him and Alan McGrawlocky. 68. 68, I was going to say. Yeah, 68. So that's one that changed.
You know, there's certain films, whether it's Orson Wells back, you know, with one of his
original movies, they're trendsetters. You know, Tarantino, he changes film. You know,
certain scenes, certain films that just changed the way films are made. And that had one little
aspect to it. But the jacket in bullet, the point I'm trying to make is I'm going back and forth
on subjects here. Steve gave me a jacket. That was a Brooks Brothers jacket. Steve gave me a jacket when
I was a kid same jacket right but it wasn't the one worn in the movie I wish I kept that
jacket a little certificate of authenticity I don't know why being the big collector of
memorabilia that I am today I vintage movie posters you name it but that jacket probably even
though he didn't wear it a movie be worth 150 200 thousand dollars today the fire suit in the
movie Lamon remember we made the yeah yeah yeah Lamond the car the car car racing the fire suit he
wore underneath his race suit did auction off for 750,000 dollars the tag horse
watch that he wore on his wrist also auctioned off for 750,000.
The thing he wore in the towering inferno, I read that the hat, the hat, the fireman's
hat he wore, went for like 600, I don't quote me.
No, that's, but I remember reading it going, Jesus, this had to be 10 years ago before
I even knew you were involved with McQueen and anything's possible.
I've seen his stuff go.
Yeah, that's how wearing inferno, fire hat and something else that he did.
I remember reading went off big big time
well Ford just came out with the Steve what do you do you take it home
I was going to say put in your closet they just uh people pay people pay money for crazy
things there was just a lock of hair uh Marilyn Monroe's lock of hair a lock of hair just sold
for $16,000 16,000 the original document signed by Jackie Robinson the baseball player
who was the first Afro-American black baseball player
to ever be,
play on a major league team.
The original document is now being up for auction
and it's valued at $36 million.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, so what document?
They're putting it up for auction.
His first contract or something?
His first contract for his first major league baseball contract,
the movie 52, Jackie Robinson, right?
Yes, yes.
So, or 42.
Jackie Robinson
They're starting it off
15 million base
They expect the document to sell for 36 million or more
I love this stuff
I'm a big collector
You know when you go on the road
When I'm at home I don't watch that much TV
Yeah
And when I go on the road
I put the TV on
But I'll put Netflix on
And put the earphones on
I'm a fucking idiot
And I'll watch
I'm an idiot too
I do the same thing
I'll watch like an old UFC
And watch
so I'm watching or listening
and I do all that shit
What the fuck were you just talking about?
You're talking about Netflix
You don't watch too much TV
Jackie Robinson
We're talking Jackie Robinson
Steve McQueen collectibles
I mean Bruce do you
I was gonna ask what your most expensive thing is
But have you been at an auction
Where something went from like three
Four million dollars
Jeez
Yeah
It's very common
Like the I have an original poster
Of the great movie
Everybody watches the Christmas
Called It's a Wonderful Life
one of my favorite
tremendous
favorite movies all
Jimmy Stewart
Donna Reed
what a Fox
what a Fox Donna Reed
wasn't or hate it
you know it's amazing
it's a seven foot high poster
and it's in three pieces
now the reason I collect
a lot of vintage movie posters
because they're like artwork
yeah I love them
they're cool
yeah my whole house is just
you know and I've got stuff
in vaults because I have so much
of this stuff
but he
it's Jimmy Stewart
and he's holding Donna Reed
over his head
and her feet are in the air
and her pearls are dangling
and they're smiling
and it's a wonderful life right so i paid like four thousand dollars for this back in like
nineteen ninety two um and when they used to tear down when the movies were done running at the movie
theaters there's the one sheet the single sheet and there's the three sheets well the three sheets they
would just tear down the one sheets they would roll up so this that's why if you got a three
sheet it's a very rare piece so this piece is probably valued around 40 50 000 today or whatever
but um christie's contacted me who's another big auction house because it's like one of less than six known
So they wanted me to sell it.
I go, there's no way I'm selling it.
If I'm ever broke, right, and I'm homeless, you're going to see me with this damn poster
underneath my arm because it means everything to me.
It motivates me.
It's a wonderful life, you know.
It's what we're all searching for, right?
So movie memorabilia, some of the biggest, most expensive memorabilia, I collect a lot of
guns and artifacts all World War II and before.
I don't hunt.
I'm not a hunter.
Not saying there's anything wrong with that.
If it's done correctly, there's, I have issues with an,
in many cases.
But I do collect, and I have a lot of World War II member bill.
And the most expensive stuff that's being sold is the German military,
weaponry, and artifacts from World War II.
It's like some of the most expensive stuff you'll ever find going up in value.
Sports cards, out-open wax packs.
Remember when we were a kid?
We'd open up.
We'd get the gum.
We'd get the baseball cards, all that kind of stuff, right?
I've got unopened wax packs from the 50s and the 60s.
I'd pay $1,000 for a piece of that bubble gum, right?
now. Well, you'll have to pay $1,000 for the damn pack. It was usually harder to fuck.
It was already broken. Break your teeth on. That's what gave you the jaw strength you have today.
Yeah. Was chewing on that fucking cheap bubble gum. Cheap bubble gum and jawbreakers. Remember jawbreakers?
Like a mother-oh. Yeah. Big time. Big time.
Who determines like, I know like a baseball card or like Bob Linguish sent me a picture of Julius serving.
And it's a signature and it has the authorization and all that stuff. Yeah. But who determines?
determines the value.
It's like, how do you know what,
like Tony Soprano,
the Soprano 20th anniversary
was on two weeks ago on HBO?
Right.
And I watched a couple episodes
and he showed up with JFK's
sailor hat, some hat.
Who the fuck knows of JFK
that even put that on?
Is there some fat guy in Boston
right now?
I'm giggling with 80,000
there's bank account,
a room full of Navy hats?
You know, that's the problem
I have.
Well, unless I know you,
you're Steve McQueen's
son yeah he gave it to me I'm in hard shape I can't stop doing blow
take this poster right now buy it from here maybe in 10 years when you get you
get together I'll sell it back to you if it's a you know but who determines like
this day like a house oh I know what I was talking about porn porn what's the
pawn stars pawn stars let me tell you I'm not much into TV when I'm on the road
I watch that show yeah that you got it
I learned like a motherfucker about pricing on stuff.
They're pretty well, they're pretty well set up.
They're very well set up.
They're scripted and all to a large extent.
But you got pawn stars, you've got antique roadshow.
I only watch Porn Shardsars.
That's the only one I watch.
Antique Roadhouse or Roadshow?
Yeah.
The father just died.
Yeah, the father just died.
The father just died.
But that show, you always learn something.
And to answer your question about how do you determine the value?
It's like, how do you determine the value of people?
piece of real estate, the most common way is the comps, right? The house down the street sold.
It's this thing. Comp. So once an item sells, I'll give you an example. My UFC 232 cards,
the Amanda Nunes fight, where she fought Chris Cyborg, right? I only done this 15 times,
16 times where I sold up the cards and I do it for animal, military, and children's charities.
I get partial proceeds. In this case, it was Make a Wish Foundation. So I sold, I auctioned off
individual the cards instead of the set. All the cards and the John Jones,
card sold for around 150 each to 250 for the John Jones card roughly. The Amanda Nunes card sold for
$4,272. That piece of card will determine that. eBay. The buyers got it. No, no, not eBay. I didn't
put a reserve. The buyer's gotten a bidding war over it. So now once the price is paid, it sets the
precedent. The most that I've ever received for my cards as a set, the Connor McGregor Diaz cards
when the second time they fought sold for $5,000 for the set.
Rhonda Rousey sold for $3,200 when she fought Holly Holmes.
And then I've sold sets for $500.
It's all about what the market will bear.
But once the price is there, it sets a tone.
Now, there's a grading on cards called PSA.
You can take your sport card or your wax pack, send it into PSA grading.
They encase it, and they grade it 1 through 10, right?
So here's an example of how that works.
I bought two wax packs of 1961 Fleer basketball,
which contains potentially the Wilk Chamberlain rookie card.
Okay?
And now we would love to open it and find a Wilk Chamberlain rookie card.
Two years ago, that pack sold, last year,
that pack sold for $2,100.
So already I've almost made 100% of my money,
and I bought this thing four years ago.
Last week, it sold for $3,300.
Great at PSA 7.
They just and they're like gold bricks.
Supply and demand.
I've seen the recessions happen.
And when I look at the artifacts I collect in the military,
the movie posters and these cards, they don't go down.
Even the Wall Street Journal once said when we're in a recession,
some of the most valuable things you can have to where to put your money is in collectibles.
But you've got to know which ones to buy.
And you've got to how to do it.
Now you're a thing about authenticity.
You need what you call a COA, which is a certificate of authorization.
Right, right, right.
Got to have that when you buy.
Especially when you buy signature items.
The movie Melissa McCarthy came out in this year that she's nominated for Best Actress Award for.
She plays a writer who is out of a job as far as a writer and discovers that she can write letters from old people in the past and falsify their signatures.
And she becomes a forger of collectibles, collecting money.
This is a true story that this movie was made.
She does a very good star turn from the comedic actress to dramatic actress, which I'm going to say for you,
too I find that most comedians, whether you go back from Jack Lemon in the old days, to
comedians that, you know, work the road and are in front of audiences all the time, to music,
musicians like David Bowie, McJagger, when they get in film, they do great jobs.
Yeah, we do drama.
Incredible.
I'm a better drama guy.
Yeah, you're great.
You know, the drama.
Look at Lady Gaga nominated for stars.
Okay, she's a singer.
Yeah, but she had to act, right?
Star turn, performance.
Share, share is incredible.
Nominated for an actress, best actress.
She was great.
Fucking mask.
She was great in Moonstruck.
She won the award for Moonstruck, right?
Back then, you know, so it's just interesting how that turns.
My brother frames shit.
Yeah.
My brother in Jersey.
But if you don't.
And I have a lot of conversations about jerseys.
Right.
He's a big Jersey guy.
Again, COA, certificate of authenticity.
And we talked about this.
So when I went home last time, Jay Bichetti sent me a picture of Berdo Clemente.
He got it from the museum.
So when I go to New York, I bring him all my stuff.
He frames.
when he comes back out for Comic-Con,
he gives me my stuff because people
send pictures and stuff like that.
But years ago,
he got caught up in one of those
where he bought him
from somebody who lied to him.
Oh, he bought some false ones?
He bought one false one, and then he caught the guy
and he got his money back, and the guy got put in jail.
Yeah, the guy sure got arrested.
Yeah, no, it's a serious fucking thing.
Because it's a huge business.
I can just sit here with baseballs
and sign him and go, Mickey Mantle.
I hit Mickey Mantle signed strangely enough Mickey Mantle's autograph you used to be able to buy for like 60 bucks he signed multitudes you know a card shows a multitudes of them but now his signatures were quite a lot of money and you got to be careful with these signatures if you don't storm right like I used and I've always lived at the beach and the salt air can just ruin those signatures so you got to encase them right you know you've got to make sure you care for them right but these are gold bricks and they're great way to invest that's where that's where my investment has been done a lot in a
I'm fine.
I used to invest in comic books.
Comic books are great also.
Colorado.
He used to be a big comic book.
Right here.
This guy's got original Spider-Man.
This is my buddy Gary.
He's one of my best friends,
a big collector of comic books.
And I know comic books,
you're talking,
they've gone for hundreds, of thousands.
We used to, we were kids.
Real quick, before you do that.
You know one of the biggest collectors
of comic books is?
Who?
Nicholas Cage.
One of the biggest collectors of comic books.
Matter of fact,
I think he's sold a rare Superman comic book
for a huge amount of money.
When I was,
When I left Catholic school, the kids I ran were with collectors.
And we would go to this guy's house.
I was telling Lee, one of those Italian guys that lives with his mother in the basement.
He would wake up at two.
His comic book store was only open from three to six.
He was the laziest sack of shit in the world.
He'd come up with a rogue, bad breath, and we just torment them and argue.
Yeah.
We were 12-year-olds.
Fuck you.
It can't be worth this.
And then when he would turn his back, we'd rob a Spider-Man,
and then bring it back and sell it to him two days later.
And I saw you this, yeah.
And we would just torment them.
But I got into it.
I got into the Fantastic Four.
Yeah, one of my favorites.
And I got into the Silver Surfer.
Yeah.
And I bought all of them.
I had all of them.
I used to go to shows.
You still got them?
No.
I sold them in the middle of a Coke Feend.
Really?
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
I was telling me, we robbed a van one time.
We were kids.
It was one of those comic book thing, conventions.
Right.
And we were sitting in front of the house, and there was a van on Liberty Avenue for like a week.
And there was the summer of the T-shirt where you pressed.
Oh, you mean the old rock t-shirt so you used to make?
No, the old hot presses.
Oh, the hot presses, right, right, right, yeah.
You would go down to Jersey Shore and there'd be a picture of Hitler and you'd go,
let me put that on the T-shirt.
You did, I did.
No, I didn't.
I'm just saying, Hitler.
You could put a picture, whatever you wanted.
Right.
You waited for two minutes, and the guy melted your shirt with an iron.
That was all in the back of that van.
We basically emptied the van, took a bus to Comicville land.
They were like in hotels, marriots, and shit like that.
So you ripped this poor guy off.
You took his livelihood and you went to Comic-Con?
It wasn't common.
This was not Comic-Con.
Not back then.
This is 1975.
I got to do an appearance of Comic-Con.
I've been abided.
Oh, you'd make a kill.
I couldn't go.
I want to go.
I want to do what so bad.
You and your brother would make a fucking kill.
Yeah, it'd be a lot of fun.
Killen.
I can't sit.
You know, you were talking about something before, about social anxiety.
I grew up in a bar.
You know, I do stand up for a living, the whole thing.
I tell you what I cannot do.
And that's go out anymore.
We mean like go out at night and party, or what are you talking about?
No, those days are long now.
But that's not because you're married with children?
No.
Just something about when I'm around a lot of people, I got uncomfortable.
Like the ship finally sailed this year when I had a little showtime.
I did a show for showtime.
I went to the party.
I took my wife on a date.
I said, let's make it a date.
And we both looked at each other after three minutes.
I have been the last couple of years that have gotten more and more,
not antisocial, I don't have social anxiety.
Just when I see a lot of people, I got to go.
If you've noticed, I stop going to the UFC's.
Yeah, I haven't seen you in a lot.
I've cut them down because it just got too much.
It was too much for me.
And I feel bad last week.
A kid contacted me, and they wanted to do a party for Scott Cunningham.
Oh, okay.
You know, Scott Cunningham was one of the guys that did the page for us on Facebook,
and then they overthrew him a bunch of people.
So now there's a war.
Scott Cunningham is the nicest guy in the world.
Right.
I go, number one, you can't set. I live day-to-day, Buffer. I live day-to-day. I live day-to-day. I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow. I live day-to-day. What happens if somebody calls you Tuesday and says you're doing a movie for three months? All that planning we did was not. I live day-to-day guy.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I don't know what I'm doing Thursday.
I don't know what I'm doing Friday.
I know I'll be busy, but I have no fucking idea.
I'll say one thing, though, I told you to call me for this show on a certain day, and boom, when you say you're going to do something.
Oh, no.
This is my business.
This is my business.
This is what I do.
I don't like to bother people or nothing, but I have a set schedule.
This is what you have to do.
And I don't know what it is.
I had to tell this kid.
I go, listen, I appreciate what you're doing.
When the time is right, I'm going to fly Scott Cunningham out of here and put him on the show.
when I know that I have a month off,
that I'm not going to go anywhere.
Right.
But until that time,
he goes,
why don't we just get together at the party?
And I go,
you obviously don't know me.
You obviously don't go to the comedy star on Tuesdays.
I have two spots on Tuesdays.
Right.
So I have that little window.
You want to talk to me?
That's your window.
Yeah, come there.
Because I go right from the stage,
straight to the car.
You know,
I can understand that.
Because I think,
personally,
I think people say,
what does it like getting older?
And I think the biggest,
benefit to getting older is the knowledge that we keep absorbing and getting more knowledgeable about
things. But also the other thing about getting older is we get much more particular. I mean, speaking
for myself in particular, whether it's, you know, picking someone to date or a business venture or
whatever, been through so many as you have as all of us had. Like Lee, how old do you? 30. Okay. The only
difference to you and me is 31 years of life experience, right? Otherwise, I don't consider myself any
different. I just got 31 years of experience, whatever I chose to experience in that 31 years. But
we become more particular. You see the mistake.
mistakes, hopefully you see the mistakes before they happen.
Well, you see the move before it even evolved.
Yeah, exactly.
Bill Hicks used to have a great joke.
Marijuana doesn't make you lazy.
It just makes you realize that what you're going to do ain't worth doing.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to go smoke this joint.
Go see that fucking boss one more time.
That's a good one.
That's a great joke because it's very true.
My brother, he was a police officer for roughly 25 years, right?
He had a good line too.
He said, I never broke up a fight at a bar because two guys just got on smoking a joint.
never never broke up a fight between two guys just smoked to join no no you know but it's so weird how
I just uh I get high I'll go out mm-hmm you know I gotta do comedy I'm having a good time
once it I see more than eight people my fucking heart stops when I give blood I gotta give blood
with the window's gotta be I gotta see a window I better hope I never get that way Joey
you're on a little step in the octagon you know and do my work
God, oh, my. I fainted at two. I fainted. I fainted. I fainted at a fight night at the palm.
Really? Yeah. With me, this had to be 15 years ago when they were still doing the little UFC tough night.
At the Pearl Palm. At the Pearl Palm. Whatever the fuck that was. I fainted. I had Ralphie Mae over here.
And I had a chick over here with the biggest thing. Ralphie didn't pick you up. I'm sure about that.
No, no. I had the biggest fight. I fainted on Ralphie. I had two options.
I had Ralphie and I had a chick over here with gigantic fake tits.
Soft spots on either way.
With the fucking, the doctor who gave her the tits.
Hilarious.
So what happened was somebody got hit really bad.
Right.
And when they wiped him, they threw the towel.
And the towel land.
I saw the towel hit the thing and blood come out of it.
You got blood anxiety?
Oh my God.
I faked him right there at the UFC fight.
What happens when they got to take your blood of the doctors?
What do you do?
I put an iPod on and I looked the other way.
They give me a special nurse.
Really?
She takes my blood out with baby needles.
Really?
I go to acupuncture
and you overcome the needle fear.
I love acupuncture.
I go to acupuncture every other week
to overcome the needle fear.
Interesting.
I just have, I don't go to acupuncture high.
No, actually, you get a good acupuncture high after the acupuncture.
Yeah, you get high after the acupuncture.
I don't go to acupuncture high because if the needle goes in the wrong way, I'll faint.
Interesting.
So I don't do nothing.
and when it comes to blood and all that stuff.
Joey, I know you're a tough son of a bitch
from the early days.
Will you like this when you got in a fight as a kid?
Blood comes out?
It's not you.
You could bleed the depth of the phone.
It's you.
It's your blood.
It's me.
It's the smallest,
and I don't know when it's going to happen.
Uh-huh.
I could cut my thumb open and nothing happened,
and then one day I could be in the shower.
Chaving.
And just a little thing.
And that'll get you?
I've got to get out of the shower and lay on the floor naked.
Wow.
If you never know when it's going to hit.
I never know when it's going to hit.
I've controlled it more now with like needles.
When I go to the doctor, I force myself to get blood.
You know, it's funny about phobias because, like,
obviously a lot of people suffer from various phobias.
There's so many phobias out there.
Steve McQueen had a phobia.
He was scared of heights.
But you know what he used to do?
He started flying airplanes to get over his fear of heights.
And he didn't just fly airplanes.
He flew the old Pick, Karen and Steerman old airplanes.
They were the World War I double-wing airplanes with the open cockpit.
So I used to go up to his, before he passed away, he had his ranch up in Santa Paula, California.
It was a beach home, Malibu, and the ranch up in Santa Paula.
And he had an airplane hanger there.
We stored all those motorcycles and planes and toys, big toy collector, like Buck Rogers toys.
Huge collector.
That's one of the things we had in common.
We would go to collectors, gun shows together, you know, breakfast.
Guy never had his wallet on him.
I had to pay for every damn breakfast.
For some reason, Steve McQueen never had.
his wallet on him. It could crack me up in his son's the same way. Chad, if you're listening,
you know you are. So with that being said, we went up there and he lands his plane and he chases
a photographer away from like doing one of these out the side, chases him away, right? And we have a
good day together, a nice thing. And I was noticing that Steve was losing weight, you know,
and I didn't understand why. And a week later, after we, he said something. He said something,
to me and I remember we drove away, he just kept waving at us. It's the weirdest feeling. I remember
the scene. You know that scene? You're driving away and just kept waving. I've known him for a good
amount of time and seen them consistently. We're really good friends. And then a week later,
or maybe two weeks later, the National Enquirer came out. Steve McQueen, cancer, right? There's the
picture taken that day of him in the plane. He chased a photographer off or sold the picture to
the National Enquirer. And they got the supposedly, allegedly,
They gathered the story from what I understand back then from what I heard in the inside.
Again, I'm not to say this case, that information was leaked out of Cedar Sinai.
And then he went on his bout, I think it was six months later, give or take that he passed.
They just released the film Tom Horn, that was his last film that came out after the film of a hunter,
which is actually a very good film, really good.
It's good. It's a really good. It's a Western. It's a really good film.
It was good. Tom Horn, that's a whole other subject we can go into.
And then he went through his treatments, and he went down to Mexico.
He went to Mexico.
To get enemas, coffee, enemas, every kind of holistic possible treatment for this.
And I remember Walter Cronkart in the CBS News, they had a tape of him and the raspy voice of Steve McQueen thanking everybody for their thoughts.
And he was gone a few days later, if not within a week later.
They operated on him.
They found like a 10 or 15 pound tumor inside.
He didn't survive the operation.
And that was the last time we heard from Stan.
And you know what?
He passed at the age of 50 when you think about it.
He was 50 years old when he passed.
Amazing, huh?
What year did he pass?
1980.
So he would be, you know, he died right after my mother, yeah?
1980.
You know, I'll start at the age of 50, another one of my idols when I was a kid.
I had certain idols.
Tell me your film idols growing up.
I'm going to give you a couple of mine.
Film idols growing up?
Yeah.
The first one was definitely Charles Bronson after Death Wish.
Do you remember Charles?
Do you know Charles Bronson's real name?
Charles McCluskey Charles Buczynski Polish he changed it on a Hollywood Boulevard on
something yeah there but in the house of wax which was one of his first movies with
Vincent Price back in the 50s his credits are Charles Buczynski it was before he changed it to
Charles Bronson and I'm going to tell you another funny story about Charles Bronson you want to hear
this one yeah this is great because Charles Bronson used to live in Malibu where I grew up right
and his wife he loved her to death she passed away I think from breast cancer I forget
Joe Ireland, Joe Ireland.
So my house, my parents' house where we lived in Trankas caught fire, right?
So my dad, while it was being fixed, he lived at the bed and breakfast in because my dad was a writer.
He'd go up there and write.
And he was up at the bed and breakfast on Point Doom.
And he told me the story.
He goes, he goes, it was driving me crazy because for a couple of days, all this guy next door is doing is banging away all day long.
Sex, all day long.
It's like, you know, like, you know, coming through the windows.
But the picture on the wall is like shaking like a movie, right?
And he's like, I'm sitting here trying to write.
It's like every other hour.
Right, banging away.
So he walks outside when he comes out of the room.
Charles Bronson.
Charles Bronson was there having a little weekend trist, shall we say.
So Charles Bronson.
He was old, too.
Oh, yeah, but he was a stud.
That man, remember Chado's land?
I mean, he was a stud.
He was a stud.
In the mechanic, he's 51 years old.
Yeah.
And there's another.
story who co-starred with him in the mechanic
Jack Michael well another good friend of mine
married my high school friend
and then Jay and Michael
went a bad way too where is he
Jay and Michael Vincent let's
preface this for the for your listeners
okay jam Michael Vincent was the original
Brad motherfucking there you go
right there exactly was gonna come out of mud
Brad Pitt all the way when you saw him
you were like good
Googly moogly God's gift
he did the first one I came from Cuba
he did a movie called the world's greatest
athlete for Disney that with Kurt Russell as his coach that put him on the map put him on the map put him
on the map they did the blue look what else he did he did something else well he had the big tv
show air wolf but this is all after that but early on the film he did he did my buddy john
millius who did Conan the barbarian who actually designed the octagon he was the original designer
of the octagon they were going to put a moat around the octagon with deadly fish and all this that
was john millis's mind working with the graces back then um
Anyway, big Wednesday.
Jam Michael Vincent, Gary Busey, who was my neighbor.
That was his first movie?
No, no, no.
This is when Jan was really big.
This is when Jan did two big movies back to back.
Okay.
Look him up on IMDB.
Did the mechanic and then he did something else.
He did a big ensemble of stars in a horse race movie where they were racing.
I forget the name of that.
He's had a, this Jam Michael Vinson's got a big body.
He's got a, oh, wait a minute.
The stuntman with a star man with a horse race movie.
Bert Reynolds. That's what it was.
Yes. Because he got under Bert Reynolds.
Hopper. Hooper. Hooper. Hooper.
Hooper. Exactly. Same thing.
Bert Reynolds was getting old. He was the new guy on the block.
And at the end, Bert Reynolds showed him how the fuck it was done with the dog.
Remember they kept torturing the animal cruelty guy and Bert did the jump?
It's hilarious movie.
It's a great movie. Great movie.
And then he did another movie that nobody knows about. You got to see the cast.
a movie called Defiance.
Defiance.
It's Jan Michael Vincent as a longshoreman
living in the village in New York.
It was like one of the original death wishes
kind of switch. He fell in love
with the Latin girl. And he was protecting
everybody in the neighborhood. The fucking guy
that played the gang leader in there
was one of the scariest gang leaders you'll ever see.
He had, he was also in the movie with
about gangs.
but that came out with Sean Penn.
And Robert Duval.
What was that movie?
Where they played the LAPD officers.
Hustler.
Hussler, whatever that move.
What is it, Rudy Ronald?
Colors. Colors. Colors.
Colors. Colors.
Colors. But there's a guy in that movie Defend.
Let me tell you who's the Defiance.
Menacing.
All right.
You got Danny A.E.L.
Mm-hmm.
In the beginning, Young, Danny A.
Paulie Walnuts from the Sopranos, right.
Young.
Yep.
The black guy is some star now, young.
Defiance is a movie that you'll never dream about.
It's about a gang that terrorizes the neighborhood
and Jan Michael and his fucking Jan's their friends
fucked them up.
Jan Michael, Vincent,
to watch the mechanic,
the mechanic was on the other night.
The old, the new one.
The one with Jason Stadham was very well one.
No.
But it's not, no.
Jan Michael Vincent was, no.
That was a shit.
That was a shit.
No.
No.
No.
You don't like Jason Statham?
I love Jason Statham until he did
the mechanic. Because he stepped on territory.
And then I wouldn't mind
if he did it. But they took
the main concept out of the movie.
Charles Bronson was just not
a killer in that movie. He was a calculating.
Calculative. He killed you so it didn't
look like it was a murder. In the beginning
he blows up the guy with the books.
Everything was he knew he was
susceptible to heart attacks. So he'd
let firecrackers next to you.
So you would have to jump up in the end. You'd die from a
heart attack. So when they redid it,
I knew they were going to miss out on the calculation.
part of the movie and then at the end jam michael gets in the car yeah bam it's over and you wait there if
you watch this movie today you will hit me tomorrow and go joey go fuck yourself i watched the first half
hour in that movie and i fell asleep then you don't like movies you fall asleep you don't like movies
because it's a 70s movie so it's shot very slow they made great very methodically they made uh serpico
i can go on and on there's so many great movies in 70s oh death wish
That's the wish you're getting so...
That is one of the most...
That is one of the most brutal rape scenes.
Horrible.
You will ever see...
Hope Lang.
Hope Lang.
Was the wife?
Hope Lang.
And...
And...
Yeah, what's his name?
Was the original rapist?
Greenberg or whatever is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's still a fucking rapist.
He's going to sue me for the same.
Oh, Jesus.
I didn't say that.
All right.
So let me tell you about Jan Michael.
You ready?
You asked a question.
Now, when did you meet Jan Michael?
I met Jan Michael when I was in high school at Santa Monica High School.
I was with my girlfriend, Nina
Nicholson. I'll never forget.
I can say names, of course.
Yeah.
So anyway, Nina and I were in a jacuzzi, right?
And Joanne,
Jan married a woman
who was one of our good friends
named Joanne Robinson, right?
So Joanne comes in, really one of the hotter girls
in high school, Jan had a good taste,
and then walks Jan Michael Vincent.
Now I'm a huge fan of his, right?
And I'm in the jacuzzi.
I was in Jan Michael Vincent's jumping in the jacuzzi
and bottle of champagne opens
and we're all having a good time.
That's when I first met.
Dick's son.
Now,
well,
everybody wanted to,
but I didn't want to sit there
and watch that.
No,
you went away crying.
I,
when I lived in Malibu,
there was a place called
Trankas,
a trancas restaurant
at the corner of Trankas
Canyon Road,
at the end of Zuma Beach.
It was the hot spot.
It was a restaurant by day,
but at nighttime,
on Friday and Saturday nights,
there was a big area there
where bands used to come play.
We partied hard there.
I would party with,
get this group,
you ready for this group?
My next door neighbor was
Jam, excuse me, was Gary Busey.
And this was the time Gary Buse was nominated for the Academy Award for Buddy Holly.
This is before the accident.
This is before the accident.
Yeah, he lived right next door to me, okay?
We were next door.
So this is when he was nominated for the Buddy Holly movie for Best Actor.
And then he went on to do Big Wednesday.
So we'd party there with Michael Parks from then came Bronson,
went on to the Tarantino films.
You know Michael Parks.
David Caridine, right?
Ooh.
Jam Michael Vincent, Gary Busey, and a few other people that are mixed in there.
I once got asked at the bar, I was sitting at the bar, and I can go so many stories of this.
But there was a guy in a cowboy hat, right?
Good looking guy, you know, having his fun, talking and said, hi, I'm worried, you know, just having a couple drinks.
He gets in this argument with this guy, right?
And he turns around and he goes, look, this guy gets on me.
You back me up because I'm going to go for it here.
You know what that guy was?
Don Johnson.
Young Don Johnson.
I can't be going to tell you the personalities
that came in and out of this place.
A lot of people know about Don Johnson.
And I just remember this.
Don Johnson was like a dude that hung out with Frank Zappa.
Don Johnson, he was a big partier.
He was like a young Bruce Willis back then.
Yes.
He hung out with Frank Zappa,
and he also hung out with the Alman Brothers.
He partied with the fucking Ormonds.
but the fucking almond brothers like i read this thing about him that he even
contributed lyrics to one of the almond brothers song they were getting high or something
like that he was he was dating somebody he's got a very interesting he was that guy that was
dating somebody that was big then he got a boy in his dog and he just blew up after then he
married somebody married melanie griffith but no before that he married like melody's mother
first you do it do a check yeah yeah yeah yeah he did some kinky shit well before i forget yeah but
But good body of work.
I mean, Don Johnson, you know, Miami.
I love Don.
Yeah, he's great.
I've always loved Don.
The Tarantino films, he does great jobs.
Yeah, I love Don John.
All right.
Let's get back your original question about John Michael Vincent.
He took a bad turn.
He had substance abuse issues.
When did he take the time?
Chad McQueen, after Steve died, started producing movies and acting in movies.
And he had Jan Michael Vincent on the tail him in his career, post-air Wolf, post-everything, to star in this movie.
Right before the movie was made, Jan had a bad car accident, went right through the windshield,
cut up that beautiful face he had you know all whatever and he had abuse problems drugs and alcohol
and now if you pull up a picture he's like 72 or 74 he's had to have his leg amputated due to
i think diabetes take a look at him lee pull up a picture uh okay jan j a n j a n jane oh no jim michael vinson
or don johnson uh pull up jane michael vinson first hold on don johnson he was right on don john
oh okay we'll be married first uh he married married married
Melanie Griffith.
Melinda Griffith first.
Yeah, but he dated somebody when he was,
she was older than he was.
That's why the Melanie Griffin marriage was kinky.
Because he dated her mother.
She was young when she met him.
She was like 16 or 18 years old.
Well, yeah, she dated.
She was 15 when they first started living together.
Yeah.
But then they remarried in 89.
You know, she married Antonio Banderas.
Right.
You know he had open heart surgery a few years ago?
Heart surgery.
Are they still together, Karen Antonio?
No.
No.
No, no, I don't think they're.
So you pull up Jam Michael Mitz,
you're not going to believe this picture.
But you're right.
I saw him maybe 20 years ago.
He had no teeth.
I didn't see him physically.
Somebody brought a picture of him up.
Where is he living?
Well, he had a ranch north of where I lived in Malibu.
There he is there.
Look at him young and look at him now.
It's crazy.
That was Brad Pitt.
You're right.
That's the best way to put it.
He was the original Brad Pitt.
Amputated.
And his leg.
got amputated for what reason?
I think because he developed diabetes.
He lost a limb to infection.
Yeah, there you are.
Lord bless his self.
He's 12 years older than I am.
This poor guy.
He's got a glass eye.
I mean, he's just a mess.
That's really fucking sad.
It's sad.
That guy had the world.
By the fingertips.
By the ball.
He said the hardest thing he ever did, he told me.
He said he loved making the movies.
But the hardest thing you did, as you know, it's the TV's hard.
You get a series.
You're on that damn set, 12, 16 hours.
hours a day. He goes, it's the hardest he ever did was the Airwolf series. You know, it's crazy going back all that.
What a shame. Yeah. I mean, so yeah, I didn't know how to speak the language. So my original hero,
I loved Dick Van Dyke. Dick Van Dyke was my, that was how I learned how to speak English. He is,
I was watching Dick Van Dyke. Because of his ability to articulate and the way he would talk. He is one of the
nicest manual. Yeah, yeah, I did a movie with him. He doesn't, well, he wasn't, he wasn't, about two months
or 90 walking around.
I think he still lives at the Marina Towers.
Yeah.
I should say that.
But anyway, in Marina,
that way, see him all the time.
He just did a live TV show,
didn't he, like, Marry Poppins?
Yeah, he did a Mary Poppins.
That's right.
He did a scene and Marry Poppins.
He was great.
No, you mean the movie?
The original.
Yeah, the new one.
He was the car.
No, no, the new one.
No, no one.
He was dancing around.
90, dancing around.
Good for him.
Well, he's a showman.
You're talking about a great showman.
I mean, listen, I don't mean to sound like I'm
getting older and we always do that on my day and my day but isn't it different today the types of
talent that that we see today I think that I think for the last 15 years when they give people an
Oscar you can wipe your ass with that Oscar like the guy from and I don't I'm not saying nothing
bad about him I'm not disrespecting him what's the movie with the chick that beat out the husband
ex-husband a couple of years back he hurt locker her locker the guy that
I won the economy
Herd locker.
Herd locker, yeah.
That guy didn't have the class
to win the Academy Award for her.
You tell you, was that Rennie?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a bin.
They don't have what that,
they don't have that movie star.
Let me give you one like that.
Sinatra.
Uh,
that rat packish.
No, it's different.
That Colburn.
Let me,
let me say this.
Movie star.
It is thrown out so cheaply today.
Because what I grew up to appreciate movie star.
John Wayne is a movie star.
Other way, his new whiskey's gonna sponsor the podcast.
He's a whiskey?
I just got a bottle of the other day, the Duke.
The Duke, I gotta check it out.
His son's coming out with a whiskey.
I met him.
I just got the bottle of the other day.
I was gonna try it up tonight, maybe.
Can I tell you my John Wayne story?
You met John Wayne.
I met John Wayne.
Did you meet all these motherfuckers in Malibu?
No, I met John Wayne in Dallas, Texas.
I was 10 years old, roughly, and the movie
True Grit came out, right?
Jesus Christ.
So back in those days, they had premieres.
And you bought a ticket to the premiere, right?
People were lined up around the block, you know, the old days.
So we're out of theater.
My dad got us two tickets to the theater, right?
My brother and I were like 10 and 12, let's say, 8 and 10.
I don't know exactly.
I got to go look.
I wrote about it in my book, but I can't tell you exactly.
So we're in the theater.
The theater's packed.
We have the two end seats about two thirds down, right?
Down comes John Wayne in the aisle beside my seat.
We turn around and he looks like a giant, right?
A giant.
It's John Wayne, right?
He walks by, I'm all shaking, and I go, hey, Duke, right?
He does like a little 180, he turns around him.
He goes, hey, little pilgrim.
My brothers in my jaw went, are you kidding?
He talked to us.
He called me Little Pilgrim.
I will never forget that the rest of my life.
One other one I don't forget is when I was five and Brian was seven,
We were in Philadelphia, and this tall black man walked in, who he recognized from sports.
And we went and said hi to him, just like he walked by.
I said, hi.
He turned around and spent five to ten minutes talking to us.
You know what his name was?
Cassius Clay.
Not Muhammad Ali.
Cassius Clay.
That five to ten minutes that he spent with me as a kid and my brother Brian had an
effect on me, just like John Wayne, that I remember for the rest of my life.
And this is one of the reasons I know you see me in shows.
I never say no to an autograph.
I never say no to pictures as long as everybody's respectful.
But above all, I never say no to children because the effect you can have on a kid, right?
Do you want that to be the most positive, confirming experience they can have when you had a chance to share your presence with them, right?
I always believe we should be role models.
We're out there, you know, we have to get back.
Those are like two experiences that true effects on me.
True effects, but John Wayne.
And Glenn Campbell was behind him, no offense.
John Wayne, right?
Now let me give you my other big idol.
I wish, you ask yourself, out of all the film stars and stuff,
what one or two would you love to have dinner with, to sit down and spend an evening with, right?
You know what mine is?
Arrow Flynn.
I read his biography, My Wicked Wicked Ways.
I grew up watching all his movies.
I friggin' love that he was just such a star.
I loved that he was tough and he would fight stuff.
And he stood up for himself, you know, just a New Zealand tough guy, traveled the world, just an adventurer
Just something about it, man. Just there's no Aero Flynn's today, you know, there's no John Wains today
When I was growing up, I'm sorry if I sound old-fashioned, but I mean, there's some exceptions
I mean, sitting there eating dinner one night. What's that? I remember sitting there eating dinner as a kid
And my hero crushed my hero. Who? Because I grew up in a fucking immigrant fucking house and we were
immigrants and I made a big deal I go mom let me not eat you I want to watch Batman
she looked me straight in the face but she goes Batman's a faggot what he's talking about
she goes Batman who money gone I said it she's right because he wears a cape and then she would
sing me the Batman song in Spanish the Adam West man got Batman tell I met him a gulo
Batman and I would say stop it stop it so my superhero shit went out the window right
You know, I went to, I was raised, I was very fortunate and had somebody like you in my life.
My dad died when I was three.
But the guy who baptized me picked me up every Saturday on 88th Street.
It took me to 42nd Street to watch movies.
And I only seen two kid movies.
The love bug, the world's greatest athlete.
After that, it was all the Valachi papers.
He would just tell me not to tell my mother.
Don't say nothing to you.
That's back on the rating system, you know.
No, there was no.
No rating system back then?
There was no, no, no, the only are you paying,
there was New York City in the 70s.
You know, and nobody had that shit.
It's like, do you remember when Midnight Cowboy came out
and it was raided X?
Yeah, yeah, there was no, remember in the 70s
when you could just go, hey, my father sent me to the store.
He wants a bottle of whiskey and a pack of cigarettes.
All right, and they gave it to you.
Until one day your father came in,
and the guy goes, your son keeps coming in for cigarettes.
I don't smoke.
You got a fucking beat.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't drink.
I don't drink or smoke.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Man, I would never love.
It was a different country.
Different, yeah.
It was a very different country.
So if you went to a rated X with your parent on 40 seconds,
as long as you covered the spread and the kid wasn't going to have a nightmare, take them in.
You know my big rated X story?
Okay, back in Santa Monica Boulevard when they, the, okay, let's go back to Boogie Knights.
So you were raised all here.
No.
Pretty much.
No, no.
Philly to how old?
15 on.
I moved out here from.
Philadelphia when I was 15 to Malibu which was like culture shock Joey right no
tremendous it was culture I never saw beautiful blonde girls like that running out of
the beach no no you never saw beach I had that's not a beach in Philadelphia
Atlantic City no no yeah you go in there to get the measles yeah so I didn't even
notice that Delaware is number one fucking state for cancer sure because Philly and New Jersey
piss in the water and dump all this shit and it's and it ends in Dover oh Jesus
whatever the fuck is Delaware there God so you've been out here
you were 15.
I came out of her at 15.
And Malibu was a,
because I've heard stories
completely different.
That Malibu was like
your neighbor was Sinatra.
You heard me?
And this guy was this guy.
And up the corner lived this guy.
Here's the thing.
People think,
oh, you lived to Malibu.
And nobody came up to,
like TMZ didn't come up your book.
No, no.
No, it was a different world.
Nobody came to your house
with a camera and knocked on your door.
If a camera went to Steve McQueen's house,
he punched him out.
He knocked the fuck out of him.
He knocked him out.
You know, I guess so many stories about that.
But listen, 15,
going out to Malibu, hormones flying, all I want to do was lose my virginity and learn how to
surf first. And then I became Baywatch before Baywatch and everything else followed its natural
course. But people think when you live in Malibu, you have to be rich. No, that's not true.
We were middle class. And I wrote about it in my book. My family and I went broke on more
than one occasion. As a family unit, we picked ourselves up. I borrowed $75 for my mom when I was
16 to go, or a weekend skiing and mammoth. That's all it took, $75 with all my friends. That
It was my share of the gas, my share of the condo, the lift tickets, the whole bit.
I didn't have it.
I was like 16, right?
I wasn't working actively at that time.
My mom said, I don't have a son.
She came to me two days later, had to me $75.
I went on my trip, had a great trip.
Two weeks later, I'm up at one in the morning, over here, my parents in the next room, talking about it.
They can't pay the $5.75 month rent we had for the house that month.
What are we going to do?
My mother gave me $75 to go and join myself.
I told myself I would never borrow money for my parents again, and I'd start working,
I started my first business making jewelry in high school,
started pulling down $1,000 a month.
If my parents needed money, I gave it to them.
That's the kind of thing I think kids needs to go through
to learn the self-worth and the ability to take care of things
and not be so entitled and have everything given to them.
I'm real big on that.
Okay?
What do we know if we don't know and we don't do it, right?
So at different times, Joey.
I'm raising my daughter, 70-style.
I'm raising my daughter the same way my mother raised me.
I'm very, I live in an area here where all the answers, unless you have a kid, all the answers to your questions that you ask of what's going on in society, you have no idea.
Because it's a different world out there.
I go to the YMCA, I take a swimming at the YMCA.
You know how many times I went to the YMCA and saw the parents sitting outside the pool texting and their kids in the pool with the nanny?
That's horrible.
With the nanny.
That's horrible.
All these white kids with men.
Mexican fucking nannies and their parents sitting outside texting.
Where's the bond with you and your child?
The only bond that they give now is the money bond.
Everything is replaced by money.
My daughter goes to a self-defense school.
I know who the celebrity kids are there
because their parents never show up.
They dropped off by Uber.
They're eight and nines.
You don't have a parent to come watch you.
Not one parent to come watch you.
I'm a godfather.
I picked my boys up from school three times a week, and I'm busier than now.
I watched Rogan last week.
He was talking about going to a restaurant, and both parents were on their phones,
and the two kids both had iPads, and nobody was talking to one or not.
If that doesn't tell what we're trying to come across here, what we're talking about, that tells him.
I don't happen with me.
I communicate.
That's why I don't like, listen, by nine years ago, a commercial came on,
and a guy comes into, like, a sales room, and he goes, he starts giving out plane tickets.
And he goes, all right, ladies and gentlemen, the vacation's all more.
No more emails, no more of this shit.
We're going back to better-to-belly sales.
This is a commercial for, like, copiers or something.
And I said, in my world, I don't care if it's 2018 or 2019, I don't care about the technology.
I'm the San Francisco 49ers in 1981.
Dallas was coming in here and giving me two points.
This is my house.
Yeah.
This is how I live my life
So if you want a text
You can text all you want
You can text all you want
I'm not going to text you back
I don't go into those holes
But I know that
I live live my life
And you missed a thousand dollar gig
Well sorry
You didn't fucking call me
You know
I'm one of those guys
It's my playing field
You and I touched on this before
Before I go into one thing
Malibu back then
Today you have to have money to live Malve
It's just expensive
Back then the
Rich all lived at the beach, right? The middle class, we lived in the canyons, you know, we did whatever.
I was only a quarter mile from the beach and, you know, McQueen was down right on the beach,
whatever, along with, you name it that lived on the Spielberg and Stallone and, you know, Dustin
Hoffman, on and on and on, they're all picking their fruit and feeling their bananas like everybody
else in the market. They put on their pants like we do, they do everything else. I don't get,
I don't get it crazy when I see celebrities. But there are a couple that have blown me away,
And that was obviously John Wayne, obviously, Cassius Clay.
And obviously the first time I met Steve McQueen, right?
And then it just, we became friends and everything became cool.
And it just taught me a lot about that.
Listen, one of Ali's daughters.
Layla.
The other one, used to do comedy.
I didn't know that.
My picture's up on the wall in the store.
And she came one night and she goes, my father's coming to watch me.
As soon as I heard that I got my car and I left.
Seriously.
Because I would have a nervous breakdown.
he probably talked about him.
He was, no, I know he was great.
He was great.
No entourage.
I know all those things about him.
Joey, remember when we talked, you were on my show last, we both have, we have things
in common.
We have one big thing in common.
We both, I owned and ran telemarketing companies, you know, in my 20s and my 30s,
and you did the telemarketing too.
And we both talk about how much we learned from telemarketing back in those days, you know,
running boiler rooms with 100 salespeople and, you know, to all that type stuff and the
experience we had. Muhammad Ali next to my one of my offices in West LA used to be a school and I met
Muhammad many times over the years he will come to the school to pick up his kids right no entourage
no nothing you know what he did for the kids when they came out of school magic tricks for like 10-15
minutes this is Muhammad Ali today entourage is I need this guy I need that guy the but a bing but
a boom you know it's like it's just different Joey you know I'm not that guy
I know I have this little little niche level compared to these big stars and everything
But I just like to keep it real Joey just it's just more comfortable for me
We came from I came from a different place
You know I came from a different place also where
I'm not I'm not
It takes a lot to fucking impress the shit out of me
A lot the only guy chased when I moved here. I was at Joe Rogan in this super one day
And that the light next to the
This was James Colburn in the Accura NSX.
Love James Cole.
And I go, Rogan chase that motherfucker.
And Rogan's like, I don't want to lose my license.
I'm like, chase that motherfucker.
We chased him, and then they just blew away from us.
They ended up working on Arliss with him.
I love that show.
So I did two episodes.
Love that show.
Talk to him a little bit.
Yeah.
The second.
I did one episode, but I worked two days.
Yeah, yeah.
And the next day I brought up Bruce Lee and, you know.
He trained with him.
Yeah, he trained.
And so did McQueen.
I had a, I think Richard Pree.
was one of my big idols growing up.
Like a lot of my friends still say,
I still remember you bringing the albums over.
I saw them at the comedy store.
Yeah, I saw them at the comedy.
Back in the 70s, you could see everybody, everybody.
Did you used to go to a comedy store then also?
When I was in high school,
I learned that the greatest date in the world
is to take your girl to dinner
and go to the comedy store.
Because you comedians closed up that deal
for that night just by making her lap.
Girls love one thing more than anything,
along with many things they love.
They love to laugh.
If you can make your girl laugh,
you're told me, it's over.
While they're laughing, you slip your dick right now.
He said it.
I didn't.
Anyway, I would go to the comedy store back.
I started going into the comedy store in 1975, right?
I think Missy opened it only a few years before that or so.
David Letterman was the host every night at the Westwood Comedy Store,
which was on Westwood Boulevard.
And I would go up and I used to,
time that the rain the fires came I've been through every fire in Malibu which is
terrifically I mean this last time I called you you called me thank you Joey that's
right and you called make sure we were safe yeah was in England and I appreciate I
had but that I sold my home in Malibu I'm now in another area by the beach and you know
but I thank you so much so there was so nice so you were good dude I lost believe me
terrific firemen always yeah firemen of firemen they got tough fucking jobs in
LA so when the when the fire's hit and then the rain
come the mudslides happen so one of the roads came down which closed off you know
there's only one way in and out of Malibu from Santa Monica right otherwise you're gonna drive another
hour all the way around so my offices were in Santa Monica and I could not get to
Santa Monica so my company at the time and I'm like a 21 year old kid right and you know I own part
of the company so I wound up living at the Hyatt house which back then used to be called the riot
house you live next I live next to the comedy story you was
This is going back.
I'm going to call this at 19.
To be safe.
I'm going to call this at 1978, 79.
Wow.
Okay?
So I lived there for almost two months.
You know what I did every night, Joey?
I went to the comedy store.
I was there, I'd say at least five out of seven nights.
Saw everybody.
Robin Williams, you name it.
Jim Carrey at 18.
Rino was just saying, oh, my God,
this guy's going to be one of the biggest talents in the world.
Dice Clay when he was sleeping on Missy's couch, you know.
I won't trade in those.
experience for the world walking in and there's
Santana walking in and Led Zebelan
walking out and these are the days when they used to throw the
TVs for the windows remember the almost
famous days by the way Bohemian Rhapsody
one of the greatest movies I've ever seen
have you seen it yet yeah yeah I got it at the house
is incredible screen it's not the greatest movie
I'm excited because I just watched it five days ago
it was damn good it was damn it was
it was for today's standards
today's standards it was good
it was really good Ramey Malick
he's up for the board
Yeah, he's getting a sound.
Great job.
But anyway, there was the days back then.
You know, it's just different.
I used to have, I think I saw every concert that came in and out of the form.
You'd name it, I saw it.
You know, just one of the things I loved to do.
What you were doing out here, I was doing in New York.
Yeah, okay.
It was the same type.
You're hitting Dangerfield.
You're hitting that way back there.
Never went to a comedy club.
No?
I was in Madison Square Garden type of motherfucker.
Oh, okay.
I went to see Sinatra one time at Radio City.
But it's like we were just talking about this earlier.
on a podcast last week
about how there's no middle class.
Like when I was a kid, I went to a Nick game.
Yeah.
You know, what are you doing tonight?
Nothing.
You're going to sit at home like an asshole?
We've got a half hour.
We can make it to a Nick game.
Let's go.
We'll miss the first 10 minutes.
Right.
Let's go to a Nick game,
and we go watch it.
And you're still home.
The game started at 7.30.
So you're home by 9.30, 10.
You know what I'm saying?
So I grew up watching the Nick game.
And it's so weird how families today
cannot afford to go to a Laker game.
Do you know how?
A family of three can.
if not afford to go to Olegic again.
Add it up.
And it eats me up alive.
Between the parking, the tickets, the food is
300 bucks, 400 bucks.
You know, somebody a couple weeks ago.
So that type of shit burns me up
that I had.
I loved basketball growing up.
I loved Bernard King.
I loved Julius Irving.
Oh.
I loved all that shit.
But I had dinner with Julius Irving when did you?
In Utah.
My brother, I had him announce the
Chicago Bulls
against the Utah Jazz
in Utah.
when Michael Jordan was sick as a dog throwing up before the game,
had six or seven points during the game.
This is game five, right?
They're down by like 15 points.
I don't know exactly for those watching.
He comes out at halftime.
One of the greatest single-man performances I've seen in my life,
scored like 42 points, won the game, won the series.
I had Michael set off the game.
I'm on the floor with them celebrating.
The confetti's coming down.
Man, I'm telling you, Joey, it's not all about the paycheck.
It's about these experiences that we learn from.
That's a million-dollar experience.
Incredible.
You know, just to see that.
I'm going to tell you a story real quick.
You touched on Frank Snottra.
I had the pleasure of seeing him three times in concert.
Two of the times I saw him,
my dad used to be a boss gambler at the Riviera hotel in Vegas,
where they film the movie, Casino.
Now, back in 72 to 75,
who was running Vegas, Joey?
Okay, our friends.
You know what I'm saying?
it wasn't the bean counters and the corporations and all and the Riviera was one of the hottest spots in the world.
Now, back then when you look at a pit boss and you're a boss gambler, my dad, I was playing, I was playing blackjack when I was 18, 19 years old, thanks to my dad in casinos, right?
Cutting my teeth on the blackjack tables, right? My brother Brian, too.
Shecky Green, one of the greatest comedians ever. Come on, do you like Shecky Green?
Yeah.
I love Shecky Green. I'd seen him a million times for it, right?
So we saw Shecky Green one night.
So we're in Delmonico's, you know,
Downes and some lobsters, courtesy of the Revere Hotel
because we didn't pay for anything, right?
They didn't care if you gambled or not.
We got the Frank Sinatra suite.
Dinner's paid.
Just come have a good time.
That's the way it was back then.
It was different, right?
So my dad says, well, sons, you know, where do you want to go?
Elvis Presley's over at the Hilton, one of his last concert tours, right?
The bloated Elvis, whatever, but I never saw Elvis.
And so, Brian, I look at each other.
You know, Shakey Green was really funny, Brian, wasn't he?
Let's go see Shecky Green again tonight.
my dad could have had his first road to Elvis Presley.
I would have had a chance to see the king, Elvis Presley, one time.
Just to say I saw him one time.
I regret that to this day, Joey.
I regret that.
I saw Barbara Streisand, Liza Minnelly.
I mean, you name it.
Frank Sinatra.
You name it back then.
It was just easy.
Nowadays, it's Ticketron.
Buy your ticket stand in line.
That's not for me.
I hate standing in line, personally.
This morning I drove.
I had to go to GNC to get my little energy thing.
and I saw a bunch of people standing in front of eat.
I fucking opened my window, yelled at the midst of 10.30, there was 40 people waiting online for fucking eggs.
How retarded.
What is that?
Depression?
Me?
No, it sounded like the Depression.
They're waiting in line for bread.
Waiting online for eggs.
Really?
Over at eat.
There's a little, like, you know, a little restaurant.
And it isn't bad.
It's one of your favorite little places, I guess.
No, no, it's not one of my favorites.
No, not at all.
It's a nice place.
I'll go with my wife there on Thursday.
Okay.
After we dropped the baby house sometimes.
Because the baby likes fucking Denny's.
She likes the pancakes and the waiter at Denny's.
They've been friends for years.
So I don't get to go to you.
But my point being that it's one of those restaurants
where people stand online to get breakfast on Sundays.
Yeah, the brunch.
And nothing bothers me more than gets on my nerves.
And I was right there at the light where you could beep at them and go,
what the fuck are you doing?
And they just look at me and I just keep going.
Then on the way back, I beep out.
You fucking dummies,
eggs everybody got eggs.
And you're waiting out of line for those.
I guess you're saying if there's a steak fraud Diablo or a lobster something.
Lopser frab Diablo.
Lopser for diablo.
One of my favorite dishes from the past.
How about pasta?
You know what my favorites is?
Spaghetti Putanesca.
Now, you know why they call Puttneseca.
What that is, Lee, it's called horse pasta, right?
They used to get together and just put everything in the could in the pot, right?
To make some good pasta.
It's called Putaneska.
Very popular dishes.
Very popular.
Olive.
Yeah.
Isn't it the olivey one?
It's got a lot of olives to put it.
It's got the olives.
Yeah, it's good.
All that stuff.
It's good.
How good are you at poker?
Like, if you had to rate somebody from one to ten, how good are you at poker?
Now, you've been playing all these years.
I'm going to have Lee do something for us, okay?
And you tell me how good I am.
Lee?
No, no, no, no.
I want you to tell me.
I'm prorated.
I can play top pro-rated.
Are you pro-rated?
I am.
And do you do all the stuff in Vegas and stuff like that?
Yeah.
When I get time, the World Series of poker is one that, you know, every poker wants to play at.
I just got back from the Bahamas where poker stars flew me down and I played a $25,000 entry tournament.
You'd have to pay $25,000 cash to enter.
But first prize is $5.1 million.
Now, I played the main event in Vegas.
I went out on, I got out on day two.
My entry fee, you know, you put up the $25,000, you know, you take the shot, right?
5.1 million.
Somebody wins, Joey.
But you're playing against.
animals.
It's fine.
You know why?
When I stand across and I have to fight somebody, you know,
spar or somebody, whatever,
when I'm standing across and, you know,
I got to maybe have an announce off or something like that
or if I'm standing across, sitting across from you playing poker,
you bleed like I do.
You breathe like I do.
I've got a heart.
You've got a brain.
I try not to get intimidated.
I have been in the past,
but I know my skills.
So I look at it like this.
Everything I do in life comes down to three letters.
B-S-C stands for balls, skill, and confidence.
And if I'm lacking any one of those three qualities,
I'm not going to sit down at the table.
But you also need that 20% luck factor.
Always got to have that 20% luck factor to win.
I played the top pros in the World Series of Poker.
Last time I played the main event was about five years ago.
I was in the top 10% of chip leaders for five days, Joey, 12 hours a day,
you're playing poker, right?
You make one mistake, you're gone.
It's like fighting, you know, and there's an endurance level that goes with
that which makes it kind of a sport or is a sport because it's mentally you know and physically wearing
right you make one wrong mistake you're knocked off just like you get knocked out in the octagon
and the i the feeling you get when you take somebody for an all-in as they say and and you take their
chips it's almost like knocking them out you know i'm not at the poker table to make friends i never lie in
person i never lie to you joey i tell the truth all day long or i don't talk right but at the poker
table it's legal a lie and i do what it takes to win and i want your chips it's as simple as that how
many tournaments do do we yeah i try to do i used to be on full tilts team i was on full tilt poker
two full tilt poker's team okay if you remember that site remember back in the wild days the wild
west when everybody was happening it was a black friday back then when the government you know
cabosh full tilt poker two months before that happened the owners called me up and they said you're
playing so well you know i've got won a couple titles wants some money
course with the UFC status, they go, we're going to, I was what they call Red Pro. They paid me like
$35 an hour to play and they gave me all my rate back, which amount of the thousands you can make
each month. Then they said, well, we're going to put you in all the TV commercials. We're going to
pay all your entry fees into the World Series. We negotiated a 70-30 cut, meaning I get to keep 70% of
the winnings, right? And some of those entries are 10,000, 5,000, you know, it adds up, Joey, right?
So do me a favor. Go to cardplayer.com.
And you'll see a thing on the top says players.
And just put in my name, there's no hiding it.
I don't lie.
People walk up to you and say, hey, I won $5,000 last night playing poker or playing
blackjack.
Well, that guy doesn't tell you about the 10 times he lost two or three times.
Right, right.
Nobody would tell you.
He just tells you when he won.
Okay.
I have a program on my computer for 14, 15 years now.
No matter where I play, poker, blackjack, football bet.
I only bet on football.
I never bet fights.
Equal Opportunity announcer.
I play poker, I bet football games, and I play blackjack.
I will tell you, I can tell you everywhere I played, the date I played, where I played, what I played, how much I won, how much I lost, tally at the end of the month, tally at the end of the year.
Why?
Because I'm real with myself.
I treated like a business.
And I've only had two losing years in 15 years, honest to God.
Cardplayer.com, how much money is to say I have won in the pro circuit against the pros, Joey?
I have top caches and recent caches.
What's the total amount?
Oh, here we go.
Oh, total winnings.
338, 814.
Say it so people understand it.
$338,8,814.
I can play.
I can play.
And now, what's the rake real quick?
Okay, you saw Molly's game.
Yes, I saw it.
I loved it.
I played with those people, Joey.
I have.
And the game got too big.
You can lose everything you have friggin' own in your life.
And one night.
Guys sitting down playing two, 400 blinds, putting quarter million dollars on the table.
You're 20,000 in. Somebody raises it to 80,000. You got a pair of kings and there's an ace on the board. You're sweating balls. What do you do? It's pressure, Joey. And you don't want to play beyond your means. So the rake. What they meant in the rake, which she said she did not rake the games until towards the end. But any poker player, including Gary is a big, big poker player. It's like, you don't make the five million she made. I think, you know, that's just not on tips. They do tip a lot. You'd be a
amazed how much money flies around these games. So, you know, you get the good looking girls to
serve you, you get the gourmet chefs, you put up the man's cave and you have a game. So the
rake is you go into a game in some of these games and they'll say, because casinos rake the tables,
that's how they make their money, right? But they take a short rake. In these games, they'll take
like, say, 5% of the pot. So let's say in one of these big games, like Molly's game, where those
hands, as an example, could be anywhere from a $20,000 to a $50,000 hand.
pull a 5%
if you're playing 30 hands
20 30 hands an hour
do the math
look how much being raked off that table
right that's how those kind of games
as they depicted in the theater that's what the rake is
but if you do that
you're a casino and that makes it illegal
right so home games there should be no rake
you pull out a $5 like what we do in my home games
you pull out a $5 chip to add up over the night
to pay for all the food you bought for the group right
Everybody's cool about that, right?
When you do your games, you don't make a profit on your game.
I try to make profit by playing and winning.
That's where it is.
But you know, the house isn't making any money.
No, it's, you're not supposed to, Joey, this is illegal.
So it's breaking a table.
Like I said, I'm not a card gal.
No, it's okay.
I'm not a dice guy.
But in Molly's game, it's all right there.
People that don't understand and watch it.
I found that to be a really good movie.
I thought it was true.
She's great.
I'm big fan of.
She's great.
I watch all the movies on the point.
She does it for me, Joe.
She does it for me.
Anything? Oh, she does it for me too.
Oh, she's, I love redheads.
When she's on skis, I'm almost having a fucking hot effect.
In Fuego.
She's fucking beautiful.
What is your schedule looking like?
What is your next card game?
Tomorrow night.
Okay.
Yeah.
And you do one a month?
Yeah, I try to do one a month.
You know, I built a poker room in my house and BBO poker tables.
If you guys want to find a great place to custom-made poker tables,
BBO poker tables fantastic, they may be a beautiful table.
They put an image of me jumping in the middle of the table.
And, you know, but like, it's just beautiful.
And it's in my game room.
It's where, you know, a lot of collectibles.
And I have built a game room in my house.
And, you know, I've got the chef coming in tomorrow, making the food.
You know what the menu is tomorrow night?
You ready?
The best, best baby back ribs you'll ever eat in your life.
Sauce on the side.
Not everybody wants the sauce.
Great mashed potatoes, cornbread, red velvet cake for dessert.
Johnny Walker Blue Label,
what you want, you got it,
you're at my house, let's enjoy ourselves,
pull $10 a hand out of the thing
to pay for the food, you know?
There we go.
I wind up going to the hole anyway.
I spend more money than I did.
It costs a lot of money,
but I've got some really good friends,
action players.
And it's a man cave.
It's great.
You sit around with your friends.
Some girls are really good players too.
You know, they come over and just have a good time,
especially when the Monday night football games
or something's happening.
It's just a good excuse.
to kick back. I was in a game last night. I went downtown. I think I played a four in the
morning. I slept till 12. But you know what? I got the weekend off, Joey. When do I get a weekend
off? You know? I know. This is a slow one. It's, I love it. And people say, why don't you take a
vacation? I'm home. I'm living a vacation. I'm home. I love being on the road. I love when I get home.
What is your next fight? Melbourne, Australia. When? Two weeks.
Oh, that's right. I love Melbourne. Speaking of poker, they have one of the greatest poker
casinos in the world they're the crown casino and there's some good action players there so i'll be
down there so you play polka all around the world yeah if i'm in if i'm around the world anywhere
there's a poker room i'd like to relax with the night before show i don't i don't drink a lot joey and
i'm like i'm like a nun the night before a show i want to be ready yeah no i want to be 150% for show
night right not 24 no yeah you got to go to bed early i could so party like i get so party like
i'm 24 i'd probably die if i did some of the stuff i did when i was 24 i wish i could do
I can't even party when I was 54 now.
Okay.
I can't even do what I was doing two years ago no more.
I stopped with the edibles.
You said they were hurting your stomach.
They weren't hurt in my stomach.
I just felt that there was something going on.
I didn't know what it was and I ended up finding out
I was lactosellular.
Oh, there you go.
But now I don't really want to eat.
CBDs, you're doing the CBD oils?
A little bit.
You do the CBD water.
I believe in them so much.
I love them.
I mean, listen, you can know what your pharmacy is.
We all know the marijuana.
Well, I've talked about it on my podcast forever.
Marijuana should be legalized, them all for it, whether I do it or not.
That's, it's not the case.
I just believe it should be legalized.
The whole thing about CBDs, I'm tired of NFL players getting addicted to opiates because they stuff them down their throat, right?
I think Terrell Davis from the, from the Broncos, if not mistaken, just went public and said, if he had CBDs, he would have a longer career in the NFL.
I mean, my friend's mother suffers from MS.
Couldn't walk.
CBDs two weeks later she's walking Joey no it's it's walking it's phenomenal it's
phenomenal it really is Joe Montana just made a major investment in a marijuana company
right that's going to be big in California you know this is the while while West people
are getting in there it's legal ice and everybody the game is in it's real it's better for you
than drinking those straight shots of bourbon and scotch you and I both know that
you know those anxiety pills well anxiety I have something for
Always a pleasure when you come on this fucking show.
What did you bring us today?
Okay.
Ready?
Yeah.
All right.
My friend Dave Manley owns a company named MMA bobbleheads.com.
Have you seen these yet?
Yeah.
Okay.
He's amazing.
And he really did.
I appreciate this man so much because he's so passionate about his business.
And he makes the best figures ever.
So he made one of me, Cowboy Soroni, Brian Ortega.
There's a real cool one coming out, but I can't mention name.
Chuck Liddell.
so here this is there's only a thousand of these made and this is my gift to you thank you brother
so open it up a bruce buffer bobblehead look at the quality and the detail though he's it's
unbelievable even the box is nice yeah it comes with a certificate of authenticity pull it gently out
and they can see it very nice i wonder what this will go for in 30 years with the tuxedo and everything
yeah well they sell check out the fight card
Look at the detail on the fight card.
Let me show you some, Joe.
Here, I'm going to get over here.
I got to get glasses and I got to get a bunch of it.
I can't see.
I believe you.
Here.
That's one.
Fucking beautiful.
Now what he's done is he took it another step further for Christmas.
And you can have mini B Christmas ornament.
I like it.
Is that great?
Now here's an example of collectibles.
You remember round five, the figures they made,
the other figurines that were made for the UFC called Round Five.
You, there you go, Joey.
Now you're in my heart all the time.
Oh, my pleasure.
Right there.
So they made a thousand of those round five.
And when they first came out with the one, I know for mine, you could buy it for like
$39 bucks.
You can't touch it on eBay for under $250 now.
There's only a thousand of these.
These originally sold signed for like 79, 39, 39 unsigned.
But not just mine, but the others because they're limited and made so well, this will be a $500,
three to $500 item in about three years, my prediction.
knowing collectibles.
Not because it's me.
Screw that.
Screw that.
It's just supply and demand.
They're not making this.
They don't make action figures for any.
This is it.
Ten years from now,
we'll be watching porn stars
and somebody will come in with their...
Somebody me.
Somebody will come in with their little Bruce Buffer.
Don't...
M.M.A. Do you?
Don't throw away your stuff.
I got some big things that we'll be
talking about this year.
I can't mention them right now.
I just had a really cool cameo
in the Holmes and Watson movie
with Wolf Farrow,
one of the nicest guys ever
met my life and and Riley who's so talented what a great character actor he is that guy right um got a
couple big announcers some products coming out surrounding let's get ready at rumble and my it's
time trademark but you know what joey you know what's really taken off big is um at bruce buffer
com i always got approach to do championship introductions and i did i mean people were paying me some
ridiculous money for him but the fans are so great okay i'm all about the fans and i give way i give partial
proceeds to children military and animal charities like I just gave to make a wish
and I do champions for audio and videos where anybody I did this for you before
when I was on the show where I introduced you like a champion in the cage just got your
championship now people ordering audios like Steve A Miochich I did a birth of a baby
the birth of his baby then he put it on social media I'm doing more birth of
babies announcements you know coming out now or whatever you know that kind of
thing and weddings tons of weddings podcast intros all that stuff it's grown up into a whole
another business my partner christen and i were just doing a lot and then it goes into the business
aspect repeat and what people want them for products and their businesses and and i'm doing a lot
of motivational speeches teaching branding and marketing and be a winner speech you know positive
i i don't want to get you worried i have a simple theory joey three-foot theory if i can
make everybody happy money
Enjoy their life.
Then it comes back to me.
I live life on a very carmic way.
Pay forward.
Carmic.
Come back.
Right.
Simple theory.
Very nice.
I'm happy you made the fucking trek up here.
It's always a pleasure to see you.
Thank you for the dolls and stuff.
Do not forget bitches.
Valentine's Day at the San Jose Improv.
And then the week after that, the 23rd,
I'm at the Treasure Island.
And the 24th, I'm at the Fox Theater in Tucson.
no other Tempea
Phoenix appearances
so if you live in Arizona
you're making the fucking track
to Tucson
I want to thank my man
Bruce Buffer again
where's your website
Bruce Buffer.com
for everything right there
and my podcast
it's time
you can catch everything
when does that get released
we release every Thursday
you know I've done that podcast
for 10 years now
before even you and Joe started
you know it went back
when they were kind of in their emphasis
is this way for you Joey
it's a cathartic experience
for me. When I'm done my podcast, I feel like I've released.
It's tremendous. It's tremendous. Again, it's not about the money.
No, I'm not about the money. But I'll cash that paycheck. Always.
And the Christ killer. Yes, sir. The man of steel, he'll be with me Thursday night next week.
Or this, tomorrow night. Yeah, tomorrow night. Tomorrow night. Who, Jimmy?
Comedy store. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy will be there.
All right, I want to thank my man, Bruce Buffer. I want to thank my man, the Christ killer.
But most importantly, I want to thank you guys.
guys for listening. Don't forget the Fox Theater on the 23rd of February in Tucson. I'm not going
at Tempe and I'm not going to Phoenix is my only Arizona appearance. So get your fucking skateboards.
And on the 22nd, I'm at Treasure Island. Valentine's weekend, San Jose Improv. Tickets are
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But before I get out of, I got to talk to you about something big, all right? Everybody wants to know who's
going to win the big game. Is Tom Brady and Bill Belichick going to have another championship to their
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Without you guys, we wouldn't even have a goddamn show.
So listen, enjoy the Super Bowl,
enjoy the families, and enjoy yourselves.
Thank you very much for listening.
Have a great weekend. Stay black.
See you, motherfuckers Monday morning.
Take that fuck at me, O'Lean.
Love you guys.
Yeah, they don't want to talk about the Super Bowl.
Oh, that's right.
