The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #673 - Jennifer Lee Pryor

Episode Date: April 8, 2019

Jennifer Lee Pryor, wife to comedian Richard Pryor and executive producer of the new documentary, "I am Richard Pryor," joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio. This podcast is brought to you by:  Manscaped - Get 20% off your first order and a travel bag if you purchase "The Perfect Package" at manscaped.com and use the code CHURCH    Hims - Go to ForHims.com/joeysc for your first month of their anti-aging kit for $20. While supplies last, restrictions apply.  Recorded live on 04/08/2019.  

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It's Tuesday, the 9th of April. The day the devil was buried at sea. I got Jennifer Pry in the room I got the Christ Killer The original And your uncle Joey bitches Marisa Arborado is also here It's a party

Oh shit What's the story? Oh my God It's a pleasure Thank you finally Thank you I haven't seen you in a while Since we're introduced at the comedy store

But I've always been a fan of yours For many reasons Because Richard Pry everything to me. I was always scared of this meeting with you because I'm going to cry a couple times. Oh, no, I appreciate that. Yeah, he was everything to me.

I mean, he saved me. He saved. You know, when I heard these albums as a seven-year-old, eight-year-old, nine-year-old, I was blown away by the language. Yeah. I'm Cuban. You know, they don't let you say shit.

And my mom was very outspoken, you know, And Richard was introduced to me probably, I don't know, that was about eight, maybe nine. And I was obsessed. Like, that was it. You know, and the main albums were the niggas crazy. Was it something I said in bicentennial? Early lap stuff. That was just mind-blown for a guy like me.

And I watched the documentary, Mauricio said you were going to go out and talk a little bit. I really appreciate you taking the time. Oh, I'm happy to be here. First of all, without meeting you. I know how tough you are. If I wasn't, if I was in a situation, I would call you because I know you show up your fucking back. That's right.

And a gallon of milk and just, we go back to back. When you're a comic's wife, a real comic, never mind Richard Pryor who had major league demons. Yeah. You're the toughest, you're one of the toughest women I never know. Yeah. You know, I mean, when I watched I Am Pry the documentary, and I knew I am Richard Pryor,

the documentary and I knew the story before you left and came back for more fucking abuse not that he hit you or anything I mean the last well he did hit me yeah yeah after he hit you left but it was just the ups and down to the life of a comic yeah yeah

and most importantly the pain that he had that I really noticed it in that documentary yeah that's the first time that while I watch something the riches I always cry yeah sometimes I come here late night and I put on an album, a Bicentennial Nega, and I'll just cry.

Because it's such a piece of my childhood. I understood that. It overtook me from being a regular Spanish kid to being outspoken and cursing. You remember the old fake Newton commercials, Chewy, Chewy, Chewy, Chewy on the inside. I would sing Jewy, Jewelie, Jewelie on the inside. All that shit came from Richard. Like Richard sparked my sense of humor. What year did you meet Richard?

Well, he sparked your creativity. creativity and your ability to and your need to express yourself and that's the beauty of richard i think richard uh you know changed creative culture in that way it wasn't just comedians who were moved by him it was a lot of people it was actors and writers and artists and because he he spoke to the humanity in people and he obviously he touched something in you very deeply that allowed you to express yourself stuff that needed to come out and and you wanted to come out but there was no way to to do that and you found the key and Richard was the key that unlocked that door. I met him in 77. I worked for him first. You just answered an ad one day? No, no, no, no, no. He was a friend of mine,

Lucy Soroyan, William Soroyan, the writer's daughter. She was a good friend of mine. And she was working for him. She was also fucking him. And she was a consultant on his NBC variety show. And she said, he's just bought this house in Northridge. We got to fix it up. He wants it decorated. I need help. Can you help me. And I've been working in Texas. I was on the road with a friend of mine singing in songwriting in clubs and stuff. And I got back and, and, you know, she said, you need a gig and I met him. And the first time I met him, August 22nd, 1977, and I wrote about it. I fell madly in love. I mean, his vulnerability. And I didn't know much about his career. You know, I'd never seen him doing stand-up. I knew he had this, you know, Lucy told me he had this rep and he, you know,

to, but I really was, I was captured by the man, you know, I just was so touched by him. Of course, I'd come to work, and I'd come early to meet the workmen to do the house over. He'd come out every morning with a new woman, and I'm like, oh, he's got it going on, you know. I didn't care. I just, wild horses going to drag me away. And one night, it was my birthday, he gave me an envelope of Coke, and those were the days man, right? And it was good shit, too. Let me tell you.

And he said, you got to spend the night. I'm not going to let you drive back, you know. I lived in Hollywood at the time. And Lucy came in with, you know, Coke rim nostrils about, you know, dawn. Sun was coming up. She goes, we got to get out of here. Richard pulled a gun on me. I said, well, I got to be here in an hour anyway.

I mean, you know, I got to work here. So I'm not going to go anywhere. Well, she never spoke to me again. because Richard came in right after she took off. And he said, yeah, I pulled a gun on her. She, you know, she wouldn't give me a blow job. I mean, what can I tell you? I, you know, I kind of giggled.

And he said, listen, my house is torn up. All I've got, can you help? Can you stay? I said, oh, sure, I'll stay. Wild horses could not have dragged me away. I was there. And I was loyal to him. Even then, we were not dating.

I was just adored him. He married Deborah in the meantime. He went through the NBC variety show. Richard's life in one week is like somebody living in Nebraska for 25 or 30 years. The shit that would go down in one week in his life was so fast and furious. I mean, you know, you had to hang on for dear life to keep up, right? But, yeah, he married Deborah, and then he shot the car. Remember that incident?

He said you're leaving, but the hush puppies bitch, and not in my car, bang, bang, shot the tires, shot the engine, and she was in the car with her girlfriends. And I was back east visiting my family for Christmas, and I came back and was told, do not contact him. He was in jail, I mean, there's drama going on. He called me, he goes, well, what the fuck? Where are you?

And again, we had not started, you know, anything by then. And I said, well, you know, I was told to stay away. He said, please come see me. And from then on, that was January 78. We were together. And that he was huge in January 78, huge, just off albums and shit. Like, just off house. He was huge.

But I had never been to the comedy store. So we're dating. We go to Hawaii together. We come back and we're out on the town one night. And we're on Cold Water Canyon on the way back to North. Rich, he does a Ui and says, I got a surprise. We pull into the comedy store. I'd never been to the comedy store.

We walk in, I don't say a word. I'm like, where are we going? He goes, you'll see. He puts me seated next to Mitzi, goes up on stage, and starts talking about candlewax on the floor. That's how no net Richard was. He would work so spontaneously, and he would woodshed. He was also so disciplined when he worked. So he started to him at candle wax on the floor.

And out of that, he would spin like alchemy, this stories and it would just come. And then, and I would start taking notes just spontaneously. And every night we'd go to the store and he would take a couple of pieces from the night before, expand on them. And woodshed. You know the term woodshed. And then the next morning we'd sit by the pool and we'd go over the note. and I say, Richard, you got to move more. Talk more about women and love.

Women love it. And, you know, and at the end of six weeks, he had live in concert, live in Long Beach. That was the first big one. The first big one. I mean, he had done live in smoking at the bitter end. I mean, the improv, sorry, the improv in New York. With the fucking menu behind them?

Yes. That's some raw shit. That's the one that set me on the top. When I started stand up, that's interesting. I found that one, and I'll never think. forget going, this guy. And the funny thing is you look at the prices on the menu, 25-6 for an hamburger, 10 cents for french fries. That's the one that fucked me up emotionally. It's so interesting to hear

you saying that because every comic has their one. For you, it was live in smoking. For some, it's live in concert. For some, it's live on sunset. Well, for me, it was as a comedian. Once I became, as a fan, it was live on sunset. As a comedian, he taught me what to do once I watch. live and smoking. Really? Once I watch live and smoking, that one opened my eyes to the non-glamorous side of comedy. You always see curtains and this guy come up and bring you up. Richard, it seemed like Richard just went up there off the cuff and somebody was taping him. Yeah. And it set me fucking on fire. Yeah. Michael Blum filmed that. I bought that from him, so we own that now too. Yeah, thank God. Yeah,

that's when I came back. I had to start a couple of coalescing all Richard's shit, you know, his legacy. So now what's going on in January 78? Oh, well, January 78. So it's rock and roll man. I mean, it is, you know, the comedy store every night. He's, you know, he realizes he wants to divest himself of those demons that made him shoot the car. And that was Richard's genius. He turned that scene, which could have been really negative. I mean, he was arrested, right? what was the line he he said and then the cops came and they got guns too yeah but they don't shoot cars i went in the house because they don't shoot cars they shoot yep yep yep and and you know he said let's turn this into you know that was richard's genius he would take his anything bad or

negative or painful and which is what comedians do that we're supposed to do right that's what you're meant to do if you're that honest right if you can be that raw with yourself and exposed and then and then turn that into genius being exposed like that's really hard to do all the time this is what I this is how I mean I understand Richard more and more as I get older and as I look at him in his work you're walking a razor wire every day you know it as it as yeah and sometimes you fall off because it's a goddamn struggle and it doesn't matter it doesn't make you bad it just makes you makes you human. You struggle. Yeah, you might do some bad things. Yeah, he hit me. Yeah, he did drugs. Yeah, he fucked around. That doesn't make him a bad man. Richard happened to be a really good man. He was a

wonderful person. You know, everyone wants to talk about his genius, and I am more than happy to talk about his work, but I'm here to tell you also, he was a good person. He was generous. Give you the shirt off his back. Help anybody he could. I heard a story once about Adam Sandler. Fucking piss me off. He, a homeless guy in a wheelchair, was asking for money. He says, man, I have to work for a living too. You know what Richard would have done?

Would have peeled off a couple of hundreds in a heartbeat. You know, that's the kind of man Richard was. Even if that guy was maybe faking it, who knows, didn't matter. All right, so get over on me. Who cares? He had such a spirit. Richard's essence was good. He was a sweet guy.

He was a sweet guy. That vulnerability again that I talk of, you know, and the pain that he had that never left him. You know, and yeah, drugs, they were at certain points they were his comfort. They comforted him, right? It's like a couple of drinks. You can't drink the bottle, but, you know, you can have a couple of drinks or a joint or whatever you do. But you can't tip over. And Richard tipped over, obviously.

He went past that line, you know, and that was only he hurt himself more than anybody. At any points in his career, do you want to stop? Stop. The Coke. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. That was the thing that I was so impressed with when I watched him prepare a live in concert. He was very disciplined.

He would go to the store every night. That's what I heard. Yeah. And then the next day, as I said, go over the notes and work on what he was going to do that night. and the afternoon he would take a nap and then I'd pick a wonderful piece of clothing for him to wear you know I loved dressing him in beautiful clothes and he would go out and he would do the same thing again

he would you know woodshed you know peel away what wasn't working add what was working find new material and it was amazing I mean he really he was very disciplined Yeah, he was doing Coke, I mean, in a way, but it was not over the top. Who was at the store in 78 when you walked in? Oh, my God. Just lame some names of these people. Just give these people some.

Well, Robin was there, you know. Robin, yeah, Robert. Yeah, Letterman. I mean, they were all there. And, you know, it was incredible. And everybody was in awe of Richard. I don't care who was there with fame. Richard was the one

who when he got on stage everybody watched him and nobody wanted to follow him yeah you know how that can be right yeah yeah but it was you know and Mitzie of course was thrilled to pieces and you know what a character she was yeah what did you think of her memorial by the way

I wanted to ask him I didn't go why because Cubans are like fucking Irish I get so emotional at funerals and I start smacking motherfuckers There was a fistfight at my mother's funeral. I went to another one when I was 14. And there was a fist fright at that one.

And then the last memorial at the store I went to was Marilyn Martinez. And I threatened Jeff Valdez that night almost smacked the shit out of him. Oh, my God. So I have bad blood with a couple of comics that I knew we were going to be up there. Yeah. Jeff was there. He spoke. Right.

I cherished Mitzi. Mitsy was like a mother to me, but I knew if I would have gone down there, I would have smacks it. It was disappointed. Yeah. And I heard that he was there and he caused the scene. It was disappointing. I was supposed to speak on behalf of Richard in the big room. And I was cut out the way a lot of women were.

And so I went in the OR and I said to, who's Dice's girlfriend? You know, she kind of runs the show over there. Eleanor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, Eleanor, let me get up and say some shit because this is Richard's favorite room anyway. The O.R. Oh, yeah, that was Richard's. That's my fucking.

Yeah, that was the room he adored. So I said, let me say some shit. Well, you know, after she let 89 people. ahead of me. Of course, you know, I got on and there were three people left in the audience, which you know, I kind of felt insulted on behalf of Richard and Mitzie because they had a serious bond. I

recently, well, not recently, but I found out that they had fucked, which was very interesting to me. Richard fucked everybody. Yeah, he did. And the thing I love about you is that you knew it and you, like, you accepted it. You said there's nothing I'm going to do with this

fucking animal. He's an animal. He's a fucking animal. You know, when he gets off stage. Yeah. And he does what he does. He's going to fuck. He's going to snort. That's what's going to keep him in there. That's what's going to keep him there. For me, I was not a good looking guy, so I couldn't fuck a lot of people. But for him, that's who he was. And you accepted the documentary, you've spoken about it for years. Like, you're like, ah, that's what, because you loved him. And I know he loved me. And I know he loved me. He called me one night from Hooker's house and said, Jennifer, I'm here with this woman. I'm telling her how much you mean to me, how much

you love me, baby. I said, can you come here and tell me? You know, but, you know, I knew it was, it was part of him that he probably would never, you know, forego. He would never give that up. And did it hurt me? Sure, it hurt me, but it never devastated me. You looked at it for what it was. It was just, it's part of the fucking game. It's part of the game. It was pussy. You know, I get it. You know, it was it. But I knew he loved me, you know. And I'd been around the block some, you know. I'd been with some interesting guys, right? But I never felt loved. He was a nice dude, Warren Bainty.

Warren was a good guy. He's a good dude. I did one of his movies and he was a director. Yeah. It was on last night and I saw it. What movie? The last one he did that he directed about Howard Hughes. Howard Hughes, yeah.

So I was one of the gangsters that were supposed to throw him out of the hotel and shit. But he talked to me, was a gentleman. He is. I was in awe. Like, this is shampoo. Yeah. Like, explain the people who the fuck Warren Bady was in 1970. They don't know.

He was the man. And he was slinging more dick than Richard. He was slinging more dick than Richard. Hi. He really, he did. That's a, it's. They were friends, you know. Oh, Richard was friends with everybody.

Yeah. They all, yeah. I think Richard drew people to him. You made a comment a couple months ago that destroyed me on the ends. Not, it didn't destroy me, but like that week, two articles that come out about him. Oh, Brando? About Brando. Oh, yeah, yeah.

How did you guys meet Brando at the store? Well, you know. Actually, the truth is that I just found out from a friend of mine where they met, and it was at Reds Club on La Brea, before I knew Richard. Because people are saying, how do you know that for a fact? Well, no, I wasn't there, so I don't know it for a fact, but I can tell you this much. If Quincy says it, because Quincy doesn't pour the tea like that, you know. And, well, Q is taking so much shit for that.

I mean, he still is taking shit for it for saying that, you know, talking about Marvin Gay and listen, you know, Richard loved pussy. There's no question about it. He wasn't gay. Hey, you know, sometimes a mouth is a mouth is a mouth. What are you going to, you know, when you go, listen, what I said was it was the 70s. When you weren't enough cocaine, you fuck a radiator and send the flowers in the morning. You know.

But Richard didn't have a lot of shame about it. And I think that came from his childhood, you know, when he saw everything was allowed, right? everything went on in that whorehouse, right? He was also molested as a kid, and that's like another whole other topic. But, you know, Richard didn't carry a lot of shame about it. I mean, look what he said to the Hollywood Bowl. Oh, shit, yeah. He had told me about that a couple years ago, and then I saw it in the documentary.

I almost passed out. Yeah. He's like, I've stuck to dick before. What do you say? He's like, I've stuck to dick before. I've stuck to dick, yeah. But you faggots aren't nothing. Like, where were you?

Yeah, where were you when Watts was burning? You know, he was pissed off. He was pissed off. And there are a couple of different stories about it, but the one he told me was he saw the locker group, the dance group, the locker is being mistreated with some bigotry and racism in the dressing rooms. And it really pissed him off. And it was supposed to be, it was titled Evening of Human Rights. And he realized that, oh, no, this is all about gay rights. So what's going on here?

And they're mistreating some black people here. and he really got pissed off and he just let him have it. You know, I mean, that's Richard. That's vintage Richard. That's vintage Richard. That's what you're supposed to do. You know, that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to tell the truth.

So I suck some deaths. What's the big deal? You know, I mean, God bless him. You know, I loved, out of this documentary, what I really loved about I am Richard, that they showed Richard starting off and kind of navigating to the Cosby thing. That's a man I can't fucking stand.

Yeah. never fucking standing in. I can't stand them. I like the one album because he talked about Buck Buck, and we played Buck Buck as a kid in New York City when I came from Cuba. That's a game that you stand on the wall, and then everybody holds their waists, and you go with your ass out.

And then so there's five people, and then five people have to jump on the human chain and break it. So you pick the weakest person. Who's the weakest person? And you get on top of me, and then we start beating that person or if it's a woman. We would squeeze a tits, you know, until, ah, and then the chain breaks,

and then you do it again. Sounds like a great kid. I like, and we played hot peas and butter, go get your mother. You got to hide a belt. Oh, my God. And then you're walking. I'm like, you're hot, you're hot, you're hot.

So there's kids down the corner, and you get the belt. You get to whip them all the way to base with the metal belt. Oh, yeah. We got down in the early 70s. So that's the only reason why I like Cosby. But I really, I think that that part really was for comedians to know that,

Yeah, you play the game. The first six or seven years of comedy, you play the game. You play this fucking stupid, safe game. Especially when you come here. The fucking agents tell you, well, you have to go up there and paint a picture of your sitcom.

So, like, when Myspace came out, you know what my first reaction was? The MicePace. I'm like, I wonder if Richard Pryor was alive. Would he go home and get on MicePice? No. He'd be snorting Coke and getting his dick suck. So I'm not getting on it.

in my space either. But then social media took over and you had to. But I like the part that one day he said, fuck all this. Yeah. Fuck all this nice guy with a suit and a tie. You know, trying to be fucking Montal Luther King Jr. up on stage. I'm going to fucking go for it. Yeah. And he started talking about drugs and the wino. That wino meets Dracula. Yeah. That's something that's like. Well, that's a pivotal point when he goes to Berkeley, he walks off stage in Vegas. And that is, that's why I love the documentary too. I love that too. Because it really shows his evolution as an artist, his growth and how he became Richard Pryor. I am Richard Pryor. That is, we all want to know where was it, what was the key? And the key was

Berkeley. It was the first time he was hanging out with smart black motherfuckers, too. I mean, Ishmael Reed and Cecil Brown and the Panthers. He saw that there was something else. besides this, you know, this, the one-trick pony, the jokes and the bullshit that Vegas. And he was making a nice living. So for this young kid to finally kind of, you know, following in Cosby's, by the way, I agree about Cosby. Can't stand. And what I say about Cosby is clean on the outside, dirty on the inside. And Richard, dirty on the outside, clean on the inside. Different. Yep. And that's the difference. Orio cookie too. I mean, come on. You know, he's really, you know, does it, not a truth teller that man.

like that years later when I got into comedy he did something in Colorado and I was in the room I walked in and I was unsure if I was going to say anything to him and he started talking about dirty comics how they're not really comedians oh god he was on that kick meanwhile he's dosing women with fucking

quailudes meanwhile in 87 one of the girls from his show Lisa Bonnet did a sex scene with Mickey Rock and she had him fire he had her fired from the NBC show this to let you know the fucking hypocrite the fucking Cosby He was all the way.

Lee went down to see him, and I was kind of pissed at Lee. Like, don't give that fucking, this is before the rape allegations. He paid a yardstick and went to San Diego, and I'm like, don't go see that fucking guy. He's an embarrassment to fucking God. Well, he started lecturing everybody. You know, Ebonics, why is everyone talking? Talk real English. I mean, and Hannibal Burris, he was the one.

That brother was the one who finally just said, why are we listening to him? He's a rapist. Bam, that caught fire, didn't it? That caught fire. That little shitty gorilla video that somebody took grainy, fucked up video, that just caught fire. The poor guy, I think it marked him too. Do you know what I mean? I think he got love, hate for that.

I think a lot in the black community, no matter, no matter, they can see some, it's like what Trump says. I can kill somebody on Fifth Avenue. His base wouldn't give a shit. It's the same thing about Cosby. And sometimes African Americans, look at, look at Jackson, right? I shouldn't go down this road, I know. No, do what we do here. I mean, you know, it's just sorry, guys, but right is right and truth is truth and wrong is wrong.

So, you know, if somebody's wrong and they get called out, they got to deal with it. They got to deal with the truth. And boy, I tell you, that caused me. He's doing a hard time. Jennifer, did you smell his pain? Richards? Yes. Did you smell it?

Oh, still. I still do. I still do. I, you know, he just went through so much. He suffered. That's why I just, I just. I was so in love with him. I mean, he's just, he wore it all.

It was right there for you to see. And the way he would connect with everybody. I mean, the rednecks, ah, Richard Pryor, you really, you know. I mean, people didn't like black people. The KKK listened to Richard Pry. That's right. Deep late at night, they would listen to Richard Pry. That's exactly right.

Richard Pryor was the one now. What killed me, back to pain, like I saw my mother. My mother had this. My mother had to leave her daughter in Cuba. my sister. And my mother would be Richard Pryor all day, suck my dick, let's do a blast, let's do this.

But about 2 a.m., that's when they couldn't fake the fuck no more. That's when Richard pulled out the guns. 2.3 a.m., that moment when you got up to go to the bathroom, that pain would show up. You'd come out and see. I still have it. Yes.

But that pain is what drives a great comic. Yeah. The more the pain, the better the fucking comic. And if they touch on it, like when I drive to the comedy store at night, I don't put music on. I go into my thoughts

and I go into painful moments for myself. You know, my father dying, I'm finding my mother on the floor, you know, the first time a girl told you she cheated on you. You dip into those places. Truth.

Things that really, you know, that truths that you found that about yourself, that they're not, all that pain is what makes me go up on stage and be a fucking animal that's good like i but i got that and i noticed in all the documentaries i've watched richard wore his fucking pain on his sleeve yeah richard's pain was right there and i think i do the same at times like i feel it i dated my wife for about a year and a half can i tell you that i thought she was okay i liked her a lot until my wife is

naive as can be she's from Tennessee she's Irish and she figured me out when she said something to me and nobody had ever said she said I could tell that you were raised without a mother I didn't know whether I want to kick her in the stomach or kiss her but that opened up my that just made me a good comic when she said that to me I had had 2,000 friends I'd never brought that up

and I always saw that with Richard like in his movies that those little pauses and there's a video of him that he's coaked out to the gills doing an interview. I hate that's what I have. I have those moments of manic where you can't control what comes out of my mouth. The pain is too much and I really don't give a fuck. It's like the night he went to the Hollywood boat.

He didn't give a fuck. He didn't care about the consequences. And that's what a comic does. We do what we do and there's no consequences. There's no consequences. We just did it. Now what, bitch? Yeah, make the next move.

What's your move? You got no move? Then I'm going to keep doing it. That's it. That's it. That's what was interesting about Richard that I really always loved. Even when he did that, we were talking about that thing with a lighter. Yeah.

Live on the Sunsister. I know what you motherfuckers been saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is Richard Pry walking out of the theater. I still remember that. The whole movie theater died. Yeah. He threw the shit up.

He just turned stand up around. He just did something that was. He did. Did you get to me for. Freddie Prince? I never met him. He was gone already? Yeah.

Yeah, he was gone. What year did he die? There were... Richard's guns terrified me. I mean, I didn't like guns around, but Richard had guns. He died in 77. I have guns, but I don't keep him accessed. Richard pulled a gun on me one time.

Yeah, because that's why I will not put a gun in my right. Yeah, shit happened. in my waist because I will pull it out by mistake. By mistake. Yeah. Something happens because the schedule's not on time. Yeah. You know, it's about the smallest thing.

Yeah. It's not, Richard got manic about the smaller thing. Yeah. Yes. It's not the big thing. Now, Bali. Yeah. It's the small thing.

Yeah. That's when you look at them and go, why are you going crazy over this? You can, ba-p-ba-da-pap-da-pap-a-pap-da-ba-ba-ba-b. That's our mentality. Yeah. That's our little comedian. We have flaws as comics. Yeah.

Musicians have flaws. We all have flaws. Richard brought them up. Richard wasn't scared of exposing them. No. No, the more flaws, the better. When did you meet Paul Mooney? Shortly after, I mean, I met Paul when I was, in that period of time when I was working for Richard,

he would come out to the house, you know. He was always, you know, bitchy. You know, Paul was, you know, Paul was Paul. I told you before I had a love-hate thing with Paul, you know, because I saw sometimes how he, well, let me tell you, the last time I saw Paul, we, he was being, Richard was being honored at the director's guilt. And he's in a wheelchair, and Paul came in

and was unkind to Richard, I'll just say that. And didn't come to his funeral. The love-hate thing, I think, was always somehow in balance, but at some points it went out of balance, and Paul would become very jealous of Richard and bitter. I mean, you know his comedy. He was, you know, he'd clear the room. I mean, Mitzie had to blackball him from the store. How many times? Oh, my God, at least 20 times, you know, and then she'd let him back in, because he could empty a room. I mean, not to say that some of his stuff wasn't great. It was, but he, you know, he was, he would pick at you. He would pick at you a little

shit, yeah. He would pick at you. I mean, that was his genius though. That was his other genius. Yeah. That he would, not pick on you, he would try. He would push the line. Yeah. Well, the race thing. I mean, he would really go after you for the race thing, you know. And, you know, and it was sometimes just out of balance and out of whack. I mean, you got to, you got to laugh with it, too. man. You know, that's what Richard was great at. He pulled the covers off black people, same as white people, you know, and he made you laugh at it, too. Yes, there were some angry stand-up routines, angry comedic routines Richard did regarding race. But my God, it was, it was that stuff was insightful, you know. I, you know, I just wasn't a Paul Mooney fan, you know. I wasn't because I,

because I loved Richard too much. And I, David Banks on the other. the hand. I love David Banks. I love David Banks. Is David Banks still alive? No. David Banks said the funniest fucking thing. He's a funny motherfucker ever up at the store. He would have the cocktail. David Banks was supposedly Richard manager, correct? Yeah, at one point. Yeah. David Banks started coming around the store when I was a regular. He was, he had been going up there. And I went to the store one night and he's up there with that little glass. He would have that little glass. He would have that little glass of whatever the fuck he drank with his ice cubes right and he would jiggle the fucking glasses and one night arseigneur paul eddie murphy and johnny gill who at the store

by the light by the comedy store line right right and david banks go and arseio i think i just asserianian eddie paul and david banks goes cuba watch this he walked over to him he goes So one of you niggas doing the Queens of comedy tour? And the fucking dude, he sucked the air. Yeah, yeah. Out of the motherfucking. He hit the nail on the head, huh? Oh, yeah.

Oh, shit. Like, there were so many things I laughed at with David Banks and Paul Mooney. I remember one night some white dude pulled up behind with a convertible and music really loud. And when he stopped the car, Paul Mooney looked at me and he goes, what a fucking shame with these white motherfuckers. acting like Negroes and he turned around and walked in I was fucking dying I never heard that before

but Richard the documentary that's what I stuck out the most of was how much you loved them and I know what it takes to really love a comic

my wife I met my wife and we were like kind of off and I tried that comedy suck my dick routine and she didn't play for it and then I had a call her and take her on a date and I didn't have enough money to take her on a date and I called her up one day like an 11 and woke her up and I said I'm coming over to

eat and she made like fucking corn dogs with red beans and I'm like what the fuck is this but I was so hungry I was a starving comic I had to eat but that's what made me fall in love with her she at all the women I was dating at the time she always knew yeah, she kind of just had the same thing you had for Richard. And I could see in your eyes. I mean, you fucking got Scott Clear. And you came back for more.

I did. Twice, right? Yeah. Well, yeah. I got to go to the bathroom. We'll quick. Keep asking. Yeah, I came back.

Well, you know, Richard recycled women, right? So after we divorced in 82, I moved back to New York. and we stayed in touch the whole time, you know. We would, I'd see him when he came to New York. He trapped me down in Paris one time and said, I got to see you, please. And I flew to L.A. and he picked me up and he had little booties hanging from the mirror. I said, what the fuck of those, Richard? And he said, oh, I just got this girl pregnant.

And I knew Richard. Oh, shit. You asked me to come back from Paris so that you could flaunt these little booties? Of what the hell? And of course, that was Flynn. And he married her. He actually married her twice, too. But when people want to know which wife I am, I say the best one.

Where did you guys have your first date? Oh, the first date. That first date was actually before he shot the car when I was working for him. He said, by the way, I've got to go to this thing with a United Nations event. Would you like to go with me? And it was at Beverly at the Beverly Wilshire, not the Beverly Wilson, Beverly Hilton. And I went on the date with him, and David Franklin, his manager, and he was fucking Lynette McKee at the time. So the four of us had a double date.

And on the way home, it was very nice. It was a very polite, stuffy dinner. And on the way home, Lynette McKee started making white jokes. And, you know, I couldn't believe it. I mean, the tension was so thick in the car. And he walked me to my house, and he apologized. He said, I am so sorry for Lynette McKee making those jokes. And I said, it's okay, Richard, don't worry about it.

Talking about my first date with Richard. and it was very sweet. It was like a real date, you know. He picked me up and dropped me off and had to apologize for Lynette McKee's racist comments. And he was just a sweet motherfucker, you know. And as I said, I've been around the block and I just, you know, basically I felt kind of tired of it all.

I'm like, I wanted love. I was looking for love. And I found it in Richard. and what I found about myself when I came back, I mean, first of all, the 80s, we were back and forth a lot, right? And then in 89, he did, um, um, um, some, uh, Seeno Evil in New York and I worked with him on that. And I said to him, Richard, why are you walking like an old man? Then that's when he told me he was diagnosed with MS. At any rate, in 94, he was in New York doing a, um, something at the Apollo.

I went up to see him at the Helmsley Palace, and he was drinking, you know, waterglasses full of vodka and pills lined up. And I said, Richard, you're going to die. He goes, oh, he said, I'm in trouble. And Deborah was in the room, that wife from before. And she wanted me to go downstairs and get the white lady price for a diamond ring. That was Deborah. She was all about her jewelry. And I went downstairs and got the white lady price.

and Richard bothered this ring and I'm looking at this scene thinking you can't make this up but you know he's drinking and pilling and everyone's the locust had descended right and he's a Jenny I'm in trouble I'm in trouble I need help would you come back I said whoa I got to think about this this is a summer of 94 actually it's spring of 94 and I took a couple trips back and forth I talked to my father who was an attorney dad's gone now but brilliant attorney loved Richard by the way. Kind of cut it out of the same piece of cloth. And I thought long and hard about it

because, you know, it was never going to be easy with Richard. But when I came out and I saw more of what was going on in that hotel room at his house, he wasn't eating. He was on an IV in his bedroom. And there was a cook cooking three-tiered cakes and everybody walk it out with the food and bitches counting money like it was Vegas. I'm thinking, what the fuck is this?

And I realized I had to come back. I loved him, and I couldn't watch this. I found out about my own profound sense of loyalty, besides the fact that I never stopped loving him. I couldn't let him go down like this. And he had guns hidden everywhere. There were guns under sweaters in his closet, guns under the bathroom sink, guns under his pillow.

I mean, fucking brand new burettas in the box and shit. I didn't know anything about guns except I hate him, right? And I'm like, what the fuck are these guns? And I knew that Richard intended to go through all his money with all these horrible people just going through it that he would go to kill himself. I knew that. And I said, not on my watch.

I'm coming back, Richard. I am coming back. And I came back in the summer of 94. A couple months after I had made this decision. and it was such such chaos and it was just two years of putting things in order and one of the first things I did was take all this fucking guns and that fucking ammunition took that ammo down of Ralph's one morning put it in the dumpster at four in the morning one of his bodyguard said that was good ammo why did you do that I'm like what good ammo excuse me what does that mean

so I took all the guns which by the way were all in their box brand new I mean every kind of gun and I went down in the BB gun shop It's no longer, but in the valley I sold him at the back of my car Guy said you can't sell him in the shop You can sell them out of your car, lady So I went and I sold him I did a transfer as legally

But I got rid of those fucking guns Because I knew what was planned Was the gun because of the cocaine paranoia? I think it was kind of a natural paranoia I think it was kind of a natural You know Embedded paranoia that he had I think it was a macho thing

I also think he had plans for those guns. I know he did. So I came back and I fought like hell. You know, I got rid of all the riffraff. I lowered the child support payments. That's the way they all came up me, you know. Flynn had a trip for 20 people planned, first class to Maui. canceled.

Deborah had a condo. Richard was going to buy for her $325,000 canceled. You know, Richard needed his money to live, right? So I closed the bank of prior. and let me tell you something. I'm so proud of that because, you know, it took some balls. Let me tell you, I got threatened by the housekeeper.

I know people who can have you killed. She said, I said, I bet you do, bitch. 911. Oh, yeah. I mean, I had a restraining order on some of those people. One of the wives, I won't say who. I mean, it was rock and roll. How many people were out with their hands out?

Oh, man. 200. And he was such a good guy. He gave it to you. Easy, peasy. Peter Bogdanovich, the director. I found a loan, a piece of paper. I called him up. I said, you owe Richard some money. You pay up. Johnny Gill, money. They all had their hands out. And Richard was sick. And he was like,

and people who were smarter than me supposed to be watching the farm were not. I'm talking business managers. I'm talking lawyers. They were stealing too. I fired all of them. The business managers, he begged me. He said, fire that business manager. He's stealing from me. And the lawyers who had him, you know, $65,000 retainer a month? For what? He's not working anymore like that. Yeah. What the fuck?

Is this money just hemorrhaging? You know, my father helped me navigate a lot of that, too. I had to get lawyers and new people on board. But that's when all the wives and children went crazy, too. Because I closed that bank, like bam, boom, bam, boom, bam, closed, finished. The money's for Richard to live, motherfuckers. And I knew the plan was Richard was going to run out of money and then he was going to off himself. not on my watch.

And he lived 11 and a half more years in dignity and love. Now when I got into comedy, it was to live like Richard. It was to live like Richard. You know, I wanted to get off the Coke in 2001. And it took me six years because I was scared that I would lose the funny.

I was scared that I would lose my craziness. I was scared that I would lose that age. that edge. I was scared of so many things. But when I just couldn't carry that. You know, I've read Richard's books. I've read, you know, Hollywood Henderson. Yeah.

Remember Hollywood Henderson. Unbelievable story, though. He won the lottery. Twice that motherfucker. I'm still friends with Connie Nelson and she hangs with him and she said, Jennifer. He's turned out to be the nicest guy because Richard used to hang with him. Yeah. Twice.

He said that one of his books. He said that he would go and pick the Pointer Sisters. Yeah. And Richard up at the comedy store. Yeah. And they were free base for fucking days. I mean, they were the kings of the free base. But I also heard an interest, a really weird thing.

I want you to clarify. I don't know if you were around. You were around. Belushi. Yeah. They said that De Niro and Robin went to the store. True. To pick up Richard.

But Richard had left already. Yeah. So then they walked over to Shetel. Thank God. Richard wasn't there. Richard was not at the chateau. No. No, thank God.

No, that was Robbins and De Niro's thing. Yeah. That was horrible. That was horrible. That was really awful. We all heard about that. We all heard that tea very quickly and in real time, didn't we? I mean, that shit spread like wildfire.

What's that? That's truth about Belushi and how he died. Yeah, how he died. And that Kathy girl, the dealer. So it was, when you met Richard, Richard was not free base. yet no no oh that started well like in the 80s that started yeah the fire was June 9th 1980 okay the foster he was already freebase so he yeah he started that when he was working on right before stir crazy he started that and I came into the house one day and I'm

like what's what's that smell he the first time he did freebase he lit the mattress on fire I mean you know Richard was an arsonist from back in the day too I love all I love it. I should have been born Jewish. I'm telling you. I can light shit on fire like anybody. I love it. He started fires and he was a kid.

I mean, that, you know, but I said, Richard, and we dragged the mattress into the bathtub. You know, it was, but he, that shit. And I did that with him for about 10 days. And I'm like, I'm out. I can't, you know, that shit. I could snort. And that was, and I could keep that under control. This shit was like, what kind of high is this?

It's like someone took a mallet and goes, whack. You're not, you're just. non-composementous. You're not thinking. You're not aware. I said, I got to get out of here, Richard. And anyway, I wrote a poem to Richard. I said, Richard, this is not working. I said, the way you made love to me was a shame and a disgrace. Your ice cold heart chilled my soul. Your woman is freebase. Freebase had moved in. That was the woman. It was, it took my place, which broke my heart. And I got out. He said, take all that jewelry off, bitch, on your way out. When did you leave the first time?

Well, you know, there were a couple of incidents that I, you know, I'd go away for a few days and I'd always come back. But this was the biggest thing I had to go. And I asked Jim Brown for help. And, you know, Jim kept giving me lip service and no, it's okay. Just, you know, go away. And I came out, the producer of Stercrazy called me and said, Richard has to shoot some pickups. They were back in town from Tucson. Oh, my God, the scenes in Tucson with the feds. Oh, Lord. But we're back in town. He had to do some pickups, and he refused to do him because somebody had thrown a watermelon, a member of the crew. And Richard, it was a real racist thing to do. So Richard was furious. So I went out to the house, and there was a mound of cocaine on this antique child's desk. And thank God I wasn't doing anything at the time.

Because if I had, I would have said, fuck you, Richard. And I would be dead. I woke up in the morning. I stayed the night. I woke up, and he was blowing through that pile, going through that, but smoking, going through the pile. And I said, I got to get out of here. He said, nope, and he grabbed me by the throat. And he was going to strangle me. Somehow I got free. I sat next to him and I just talked him down. He said, you're going to die this morning. And I had a cross around my neck and I held the cross and I looked out, failed Catholic than I am.

And I said, God, give me the words. And I said, Richard, just calm down. She was like law and order, you know, when they calm person down. Just give me the gun. It's okay. Calm down. Everything's going to be okay. And he calmed down. And I made a beeline from my blue corduroy pants. I picked them up and I left.

Went to the kitchen. And Richard said, can you bring me some oxtails and beans? I did. I went into the kitchen and got some oxtails and beans that one of his aunts was cooking and brought him back. But the next time I came out to the house was when he set himself on fire. And he said, it's going to happen. He said, you need to leave because it's going to happen to you, too. And Richard never made an idle threat.

Never. And I thought, okay, you know, so I went to the kitchen, and there was a bodyguard there and a couple of, you know, a couple hangers on, an aunt or two. And I said, Richard's going to hurt himself. And they said, get out of here, a little crazy white girl, you know, get out. By the time I got back to him, I had an apartment I had taken in Beverly Hills. I called the house. I called Jim.

I said, Jim, he's going to do something. He poo-pooed me. Dismissed me. Call the house, and Auntie answered and said, what? And I said, I'm just checking. And all of a sudden, she's screaming. Richards then running through the house on fire. The phone drops.

Yep. I made a beeline for the hospital. Hollywood Presbyterian, he went to first. And I talked to the doctors, and I said he's loaded on COVID. and he's just vodka and free base don't kill him you know don't overdose them with morphine and that the family was there furious with me because I was telling them the truth um and then he was moved to the burn center and then you know the rest is history I mean it goes on from there yeah he lit himself on fire uh he poured that 190 proof rum over himself and torched himself

he saw he said there's no way out for me I did motherfucking chocolate chip cookie. Yeah. In the milk. And the shit flew up. That's the comedy. Yeah. You know, that's the comedy.

That's right. He didn't hide shit. No. He let you have it. And then he fucked with you a little bit. Yeah. Let me tell you motherfuckers don't really have. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was hungry. And when I dipped the chocolate milk or whatever the fuck. Yeah. You know, that's, yeah. I was a young kid. And I was just distraught. Yeah.

Like, this guy I love. Yeah. He's doing, what they were doing at my house, Richard Pryor was doing, except my mom wasn't a free basin. She died to 79. Thank God she never got to that free basin point. Oh, man. But she was snort. She had a bar.

She was Cuban. She was an alpha woman. You know what I'm saying? Right. She beat up the husband, the step, my stepfather. Whoa. Threw a cigarette out of one night. He waited until she went to sleep, until he went to sleep.

She took a Catholic figure And broke it over his fucking head And that motherfucker had a piece of his skin Hanging off Cuban woman It's worse than an Irish woman And the next day Usually when a man leaves your house

Right They leave shit just to come back to maybe Yeah He took everything What happens? The screwdriver is tools Like there was no Everybody leaves something

To come back a week later I forgot my towel This motherfucker never came back So when Richard I'm done When Richard lit himself I didn't know what to do

Like people were making fun of me Like your hero Lill himself on fire And I didn't know what to say It was like I just didn't know what to say Yeah And then that

I think it was sunset strip Yeah he came back Came back with sunset strip He came back What people don't know about that Is that we shot it in two nights Right The first night he ate a bag of dix

First night So you do now Walked off stage Yeah And the second night he killed it, but they did have to do some pickups on that. You know, Ray Stark produced it, and he wanted some pickups on that. And, yeah, but it was good.

I mean, he came clean again, you know, talked all about it. With the red fucking suit? With the red suit. Oh, my God. Yeah. With the red suit. A friend of mine designed that. Yeah.

Well, that was tailored to the team. Yeah. Yeah. Custom made. Oh, wasn't he? He was smooth. Yeah. And, like, was there anybody black at the time that?

Didn't analyze Richard. Oh, God. Jim Brown, you just dropped some names. We're talking about Hollywood, had this in the Poigness sisters. Yeah. I mean, it's just endless. Well, you know, when he took me over to Sammy's for the first time,

I mean, the way Sammy looked at him, too. And Sammy was older than him, right? So it was kind of a little father thing going on there. But with such love, with such adoration and amazement, too, at the same time, you know, kind of, because Richard was, Richard was doing things that nobody else was doing, really, you know. But Sammy was, Sammy loved him too. I mean, Sammy was, you know, Sammy was somebody who was always there for him.

Yeah. So you leave, you clean, now, in the time when you, how long were you guys separated for? Well, basically, we were separated by, we divorced in 82, and I came back in 94. But I, you know, as I said, we were back and forth a lot, you know, know, he'd come to New York and call me. And, you know, I, I, you know, we, we never really stopped seeing each other, stopped loving each other. I mean, I went on. I had other boyfriends.

I tried to have a life without him, but nobody paled in comparison. I mean, you know, nobody could follow Richard on stage or off. You know, nobody. And I just, yeah, I couldn't shake him. I just was madly in love with that man, you know. And I miss him to this day. I talk to him. I'm like, you know, sometimes I'm pissed off.

Like, you're supposed to be here, motherfucker. Where are you? Sometimes he visits me. And I feel his presence a lot. You ever smell him? I do. I smell him. Get that old smell back.

Yeah. Why do you remind you your dad? You said your dad. Oh, my father. Well, my father, 100% Irish. Right. Brilliant. Brilliant lawyer.

Civil rights attorney. Rock on tour. Great fucking sense of humor. womanizer could polish a bottle of whiskey very similar man you know and my father you know my father had his own demons you know he he slugged my my mother a few times and my mother had mental illness and that's a whole other story but they eventually divorced but but i love my dad and i think i learned from my father that bad you can do bad things but that doesn't make you a bad man my father happened to be a great man. I worship him to this day. He did great things for a lot of people. Did he slug my mother? Yeah.

Was he a prick sometimes? Uh-huh. But he was a good man. And that's what I appreciate most is, you know, people get confused. Well, he hit you. So he's a bad guy. Mm-mm. No, no, sorry. Well, he did drugs. Mm-mm. Sorry. No, no, no. Richard wasn't a hypocrite. Richard was honest, but Richard was a good person. So these flaws don't make a person, a bad person make. They just doesn't. It doesn't. I didn't know much about Richard, but the thing that struck me, was he happy?

Like the documentary, a lot of sadness came through. And it makes me sad that someone who's so funny would be so sad. Well, I think that you're sitting next to someone. who can talk to that too. I mean, there's not, nothing fixes them. Nothing fixes them. I can tell you that on stage is where Richard was like gills on a fish, he lived. I mean, he came alive.

He was off stage, he had a hard time knowing how to live life. That's real. Happiness, I think, was very elusive. I think there were moments of joy. Did he understand? The biggest question for me was, did he understand how? loved he was. That's the big question. Did he ever feel loved? You know, I know he felt loved by me, but by the masses, by his fans, did he ever feel the impact that he had? And I think

that as he sat in the wheelchair as he got older and this disease took more hold of him, the disease of MS, I think that Richard really came to peace, came to acquire a sense of peace about his life and about being appreciated and being loved. I think that that maybe was one positive thing about that damn disease was that it gave him he didn't have a choice. He was sitting in that damn wheelchair and he had to face himself. He couldn't run away anymore. He couldn't run to the drug, to the whiskey, to the pussy. He couldn't run anyway, aware, and more away from it. He had to face. So one of the things I think he had to face was that he was loved. But I think he did acquire a sense of peace about his life.

I'm 56 years old, and I think for three years I've finally been comfortable living in my skin. That's what I'm talking about. And my daughter, that little girl, has really playing a big part in me being comfortable in my skin. You know When I was hooked on the Coke You know I was booking movies I was booking I was at the Mitzie And give me spots four nights a week

But that Nothing to do with happiness Once you get on fountain and make the left To go home Reality sets you're a fucking loser You're mothered the drugs You know you followed the drugs You went to prison

You got a GED You know all those things come to play That's right Never mind what just happened on the stage Never mind, you just ripped that fucking original room to shreds. That's right. All those things come back, you know, and then you have to put them into place. That's right.

For years, I used the drugs to put them into place, you know. Yeah. It just, you know, I tell people when I was doing Coke, I would go to pee, and I refused to look in the mirror. Yeah. I would not look at myself in the mirror. Shame. If I had to walk through the bathroom, I wouldn't look at a mirror because you don't want to see yourself. Yeah.

Somewhere along the line as a comic. And it made me stronger. Getting off the coach. Of course. And dealing with that shit. I tell people all the time, you got skeletons. You got to let them out from time to talk. How do I let them out on that stage?

Did Richard go to a psychiatrist ever? He was mandated to by the legal system after shooting the car, Dr. Cannon, who since passed away. I didn't like Dr. Cannon much because he took advantage of Richard. Richard started giving them money for this charity or that charity, and then the okie-doke sets in, right? So no real work is getting done. I go to therapy, and it's, I love it, because it's a support system. You get to look at issues in your life, in your work, you get to learn how to navigate them better. You just get it, you know, for me, it's really important to have therapy.

And I know what therapy, what it takes, it takes honesty, and it takes a degree of courage. And I think that Richard just started to buy the shrink and the shrink went for, you know, it got all fucked up. But his psychiatry was the stage. I'm sorry? His psychiatrist was the stage. Sometimes when I hear his material. Absolutely. That's why I don't go talk to nobody. I want that stage now in this point in my life. I want to go up there and get it all out. I say everything. I don't give a fuck no more. I was looking for a job when I found this one. When I was 40, I had to be careful about what I said not anymore good i'm gonna retire you know i'm going out with this fucking wind i don't give a frenchman's fuck that's good and i'm from the school of richard pride yeah that stage that's good to hear

is your psychiatry you know listen i'm a fan of kennyson i'm a fan of bill hicks yeah you know i love andrew you know i love uh there's a lot of comedians i love but nobody set the tone for me like richard like i'm not trying to emulate richard i have the same pain oh one I can see that. Richard has, and that makes me a comic. Yeah. Like that pain getting in touch with it. You live your life going through for years.

That's right. You don't know what the fuck is bothering you. Richard saw a lot of things that a lot of seven-year-olds shouldn't see. Shouldn't see. No. A lot of eight-year-olds shouldn't see. No. When you're eight and nine, your world should be Universal City.

Yeah. You know, Donald Duck. You should be protected. Not being outside getting guys to come into your grandmother's thing, you know, while his mom was hooked and his grandma raised him, he had the support system, but I think it was his grandma that really. Oh, that's a double-edged sword. That's a double-edged short. She was a nurturer, but at the same time, she had a grip that was iron. It was an iron grip. What was your name again? Marie, Marie Carter. You met her? Oh, yeah, I met her. Meena's a snake.

Oh, mean as a rattlesnake. But I understood her, you know. Listen, she grew up during the Jim Crow era, Come on. She wanted Richard to marry. Oh, come on. The black actress. Thank you, Pam Greer. Who Richard would tell me he had a golden pussy. Really?

Richard, I don't need to hear that. She had the best pussy ever. I'm like, okay. And me, Angel Pussy over here, please? No, she wanted him to marry Pam Greer, and she called me the Bigfoot motherfucker, because I'd wear cowboy boots in the house and she'd hear me. She, you know, I get it.

I mean, she sent a maiden once with a two by four over my legs, smashed it over my legs. And the bitch got on top of me and started strangling me. Housekeeper. She felt I disrespected her. Who was this fucking housekeeper? Right? She threatened you?

Well, this is another housekeeper. This housekeeper was somebody who worked for John Schlesinger. I was friends with them, John and Michael. And anyway, I had her in the house. And when the grandmother was at the house, she ran it like a whorehouse. I mean, she, so I disrespected her. Richard and I've been doing coke all night. And Richard said, she started calling on the phone.

Some was coming up. He says, tell her we're not, we can't take the call. And she thought that was disrespectful. And she sent this woman in with a two by four, smashed it over my legs. Bitch got on top of me, started strangling me. and Richard finally saw, oh, I think she's killing her, and she threw her, got this woman off me. And I had some shit to say at the grandmother,

but Richard made me leave the house. He said, you have to apologize to the grandmother. So she was someone to be reckoned with. I understood her, though, you know. I really did. I, you know, growing up like, I mean, living in that, look what she had to do to survive to help to support everybody to but she was um when she died Richard really Richard started to come apart because it was his own it was his it was his it was the

only nurturer he had you know really how was his relationship with his mom very tortured you know she would she abandoned him she was alcoholic she would come and go but then of course he had to choose between the grandmother and the mother. And they put him in court on the witness stand. And he had to choose. And he had to choose the grandmother. You betcha. And he did.

But, you know, that was a pain that he never got over. I mean, how can you get over that, right? And the father was a real taskmaster, right? And, of course, he does routines about his dad and how tough he was. Buck. Buck was a pimp in the whore house. Yeah. Yeah.

Buck. And yeah, he used to say to me, I'm so glad you didn't meet Buck. He would fuck you in a minute. I'm like, Richard, your father? He goes, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. The second time you went back with him, how long were you, you were together until the end? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

When I came back in 94, I drove cross-country with my two dogs and all my shit, and everybody was else, I told you, just taking advantage and live in 20 minutes down the freeway. And they were all cussing me out. I said, well, you're 20 minutes down the freeway. Where were you? where the fuck are you so I drove cross-country and I you know that was the summer 94 I pulled into his driveway and I rented a house right near him and I made him sign a employment contract because I never knew with Richard you know sometimes he would just upset the apple cart because he could

so I'm like listen if I'm giving up my rent stabilized apartment on Beekman Place motherfucker I am you better give me you know some security here and it took years just to get things in order and we bought him a house and I told you I closed the bank of priors so you know we could organize it and then we had to take care of him physically so it was rehabilitating him financially physically and and we did the box sets and I went after Drozzen and won that lawsuit chased him so I started to organize everything and as I told you that people who were smarter than me should have been doing it and we're not oh no they were they were they were They were taken what wasn't nailed down.

You know, for the last hour, we've spoken about Richard, and I don't like second, usually I don't like second party, whatever. But there was one of the special person in this relationship, but it was you. You're very, very special, Jennifer. Thank you so much. You are very, very special because they don't make women like you no more. Women see heat now, and there's a divorce box.

A little controversy, and there's a divorce. Oh, he called me a cunt. I can't. you have to look farther than that. And you had the wisdom that you seemed past the comic and the money and the Coke and the limos. Oh, the party was over when I came back.

Oh, was it? Well, in that sense, I mean, you know, it wasn't rock and roll anymore, was it? It was hard work now. It was like, let's clean up, let's coalesce the legacy. Let's do the hard work now, Richard. You know, you're sick. You know, that's what real love is, isn't it?

I mean, that's when the shit hits the fan, rubber meets the road, man. That's when you find out who the fuck you are and who the fuck you love. You know, inside my wedding band, I had initial to the wheels fall off. Yeah. That's me and my wife's favorite saint. That's what... It comes from a Bob Dylan song. Yeah. Yeah. When the wheels fall off. Yeah. And I look at you and I see why I love my wife as much as I do. Because, like I said, women come and go with this fucking life. They come with money. They come with this. you know how hard it is to be a comic's wife because at first you see the comedian on stage

you don't see the guy that's moody that doesn't wake something a bad mood that doesn't want to talk at night that doesn't like politics that wants his clothes a certain way and wants his socks a fucking certain way and you know I got home yesterday and my wife had the clothes was washed but it wasn't put away

and for a minute I said something to it I go who the fucking mind to say something to me she's fucking fight with a six year old Well, fucking that. But I wanted to bring you on because I don't think nobody's had a benefit for you. Nobody's ever given you the credit that you deserve for taking. He would have been dead. Listen, when he came out of the hospital in 80, that time, you know,

to explain the people that don't know what cocaine was in 1980, you know how we've just seen this marijuana revolution. Exactly. One day it was a shoe store, now it's a pot store. Now there's two pot stores in the block. We saw what cocaine did Unbelievable. To a society. Yes.

Kind of like this. It was like a case of the fucking measles. You know, they said that the plague killed how many people in 19? Yeah. The great plague. Cocaine was a great plague. And people like Richard, you know, the first time I tried coke was October of 79. Something I was totally against.

Something I was totally against. And one day I went to the basement and I went looking for something. And I saw a bail, and I wanted to bail, and somebody had left something so my mom could watch. And I took a rock out and put it in a little aluminum fall, and I put it in my desk. I didn't say nothing to nobody for a month. And one day I played hockey with some friends.

I said, let me bring the Coke with me. And we ended up doing it and sprinkling it in peppermintz, and vodka. We would call them snow cones. We were drinking it and snorting it. And until this day, I'm still friends with the guy. I did it. But not to take that off. One minute, people were smoking pot and doing acid.

And the next minute, everybody was doing coke. Everybody was stirring out. And I can't imagine being Richard Pryor and people putting it in your hand. Oh, yeah. People just putting it in your hand. You're Richard Pryor. They were bringing it in the hospital when he was recovering from the fire. And he was doing it?

Oh, yeah. In the hospital. Yeah. That's real. But he did get sober. He did here and now, sober. Do you? Yeah, he did.

He did. So he got out of the hospital, June 9, 1980 was a fire. He got out in about six weeks. And he had a handler come and stay with him, a male nurse, to kind of watch him. But he was like this with the shit, right? And we got back together that, Christmas, we went to Hawaii together, and then the following summer we got married. And he was sober then. He actually smoked some weed in Hana at our house warming we had.

We had built a house down there. And he goes, he got paranoid. And I kind of talked him off the ledge. And he said, you know, you're so good to me. You're just always good to me. Will you marry me? And I'm like, I don't know because I was kind of dating somebody I was trying to get my feet back on the ground you know and I said all right okay we married a week later of course he came back too soon though

he came back and started doing that dope and Robin and he started running together and partying and he was woodshedding for the live on sunset and we moved into Truesdale, rented a house there, so he was close to the store. But he started, you know, doing the Coke again. And, you know, marriage got rocky and did. But he got sober eventually and then did here and now sober.

But it was always rocky with him, you know, it was just always back and forth. Guys like him will never be so. No, no, no, no. Like me can never be so. Yeah. It's just. Well, you don't do Coke now, right? No, no, no, no.

You drink a little. No, no drinking, smoking, edibles. Okay. I'll take a Xanax. You got a Viking and pop it. You know, somebody gave me in Pittsburgh this weekend, somebody gave me a bag of week. Great guy, Vin.

I went back to the hotel. There was two Kalanapins and four Fiarantidis. Well. I looked them up and their muscle relaxes, but they got caffeine in them. Oh, man. You know, and I put them away. My drug was Kualudes, man. Oh, of course, Bill calls.

We had all the quailudes, didn't they fucking bug guarding the quailants? Again, people had no idea about that 714 express. That man. I even tell my shrink, you didn't do a quailude? That was, that shit was the bomb. I got one saved at the house. Do you? A little one.

Buy it from you. I don't know. I took, the guy gave me three of them, but I took it one day by myself. I hear you can still get them. I don't know. No. No. No.

No, that's a heavy duty. At the end, he died clean, though. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, you know, he died. Listen, I was so proud of the care that we took of him. He had a feeding tube. Usually, you have a feeding tube for one year, and they die from it. Six years, he had it. And that's how well we took care of him. Because that damn feeding tube, you have to clean it, you have to change it, you have to, I mean, it is a thing. He was on dialysis the last year of his life. That's really, you know, he died of heart failure, but the kidneys were shot. The kidneys were shot. kidneys what did it yeah yeah I have a question I feel you saw him when he was I know I saw him he was done already when I saw him he was

yeah but he wanted to go back he was in the wheelchair it was his wheelchair and he won't and 96 he was doing spots 95 96 he was doing spots because I was living in Seattle and coming down and I would never even go to the store like priors there I'm not even gonna go down there oh I wish you did I could

I filmed it. We've got it on film. And some of it is good. But, you know, again, I'm repeating myself now, but it was heroic and tragic at the same time. Both. It was both brave of him to want to do that and also tragic because he's not the predator stalking the stage anymore, that great, powerful, you know, wonderful energy that he had in spirit. So you saw him compromised, obviously, very compromised with the illness. But the fact that he still wanted to do it said so much to me about what kind of man Richard was. And he still was funny.

I mean, he got a lot of funny shit in there, too. It wasn't just, you know, sitting up there. But he would hold this martini glass. And he would, I don't know how he never spilled it. It was just, it was, it was an art holding that glass with a martini full to the rim, not, and a cigarette in one hand, you know, and doing his thing. It was beautiful. I know it makes you sad to think of, but on one hand, you know, it was a thing of beauty.

That's that's where he wanted to be. No, I'm not sad about it. It's balls. That just added to the Richard Pryor and the legend of balls. People would say to me, how can you let him do that? I said, whoa, get it straight here. I'm not letting him do or not letting him do. Richard wants to do this, period.

We're doing it. Instead of hiding in a closet somewhere, come on. We're supposed to hide? He wanted to go out all the time. He'd go to the movies. He'd go to, you know, we'd go at the dinner. We'd go to places. We'd go to events.

You know, we always went to the Schlautters stuff, the comedy awards, you know. Always going out there, you know? Always. I heard a funny story about Richard. I heard that towards the end, he went up to the store one night in a wheelchair. And there was a funny black comic up to the store at the time. He called him over. And the guy thought, like, you know, I'm the next Richard.

And Richard looked at him to get close. And when Richard, when the guy got done, he goes, Stop doing my shit. I don't know if it's true. That's interesting. I'm not going to mention no names, but I heard even at the end, he was that sharp. He took the comic, came over and like, yeah, Richard, what's up?

Yeah, like, what's up? Stop doing my shit. Yeah, good. I'm glad. I'm glad. I just heard a Robin story that was interesting. Howie Mandel told the director this. It didn't make it in the documentary.

I wish it had. He said that he went to the, this door one night and he saw Richard doing this routine. God comes to visit and asks Richard if he can speak to Robert Kennedy. Sorry, God, he was killed. Well, Jack, the brother, oh no, well, he was killed too. Well, Martin Luther King. Oh, sorry, God. Malcolm X. No, I'm sorry. You could hear a Pind drop. That's what Richard's genius was, too. He didn't always have to be funny. And that's something to remember, too, his comics. You don't always fucking have to be funny. Hannah Gatsby, the new girl, that new girl comic, female comic? Yes, yes, yes, yes. She's breaking some molds, too,

that I think are very interesting. Same kind of thing. You don't always have to be funny. But so Howie runs into Richard on a plane, he says, Richard, that's a man. He says, Richard, routine where God's asking you to speak to all these dead people. Why'd you stop doing that? That way you had everybody mesmerized. He said, because Robin started doing it. It's a true story. It's a true story.

It's a true story. Yeah. Jennifer, you always got a home here. Thank you. I've enjoyed it. I've enjoyed it. I've enjoyed you. Listen.

You made me go through a rollercoast of emotions. This is good. I was, like I said, there's just some people that I'd never wanted to. to really meet because I loved them so much. I would fall apart. You know, when I saw Richard, I fell apart. When Muhammad Ali's daughter said Muhammad was on his way to the comedy store, I got in my car,

and I peeled the fuck out of there because I did not want to. But Richard's one of those people that, if it wasn't for Richard, I wouldn't be in this office. Well, I can say you got some of his DNA. Yeah, no, it's crazy. I can say that, yeah. I appreciate that in you. I appreciate you.

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And like I said, if you ever just bored and you want to talk some Richard stuff. All right. I love to talk about Richard. Yeah, me too. I love all this shit because I know you have 10 more hours in you. Oh. And there's two hours that you don't even remember. I got to give you a couple more.

teenies. Oh my God, there was another time when he told Warren Beatty to suck his dick. Exactly. Exactly. I love you. I love you, too. Mauritia, Marado, thank you very much.

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