The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #699 - Chris Shiflett

Episode Date: July 9, 2019

Chris Shiflett, is the lead guitarist for the legendary band, "Foo Fighters," and also recently released a solo album titled, "Hard Lessons," joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt LIVE in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: ForHims- Go to ForHims.com/church to get your first month for just $5.     Onnit.com - Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.  

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The Foo Fighters, how are you, brother? Good, man, how you doing? Thank you for taking the time out and, you know, this is an honor. Oh, thanks for having me. When Justin called me and asked me, I was like, are you fucking kidding me? I watched that video. I've watched you on that video thousands of times. Right on.

You know, that's a great fucking, all the videos, all the, it's just amazing. the whole, how'd you end up with them? You had a call for... Yeah, I just auditioned, you know? Like, I was just one of a bunch of guys that was lucky enough to get an audition. And not too far from here, actually. There's a little rehearsal studio out here

in the valley called Mates. And I went in there and, like, played a few songs and then went back to San Francisco. And then I was living in San Francisco at the time. And then came back down a week later and had a sort of a more extensive audition. And then they let me know the next day, I got the gig and it's been kind of chugging along ever since.

Just a sweet surfer guy from Santa Barbara. Now I'm one of the world's greatest rock and roll bands. It's funny because I've read a couple of your things and seen a couple of years, and I don't want to beat the same interview, but a friend asked you if you wanted to audition for guns and you're like, nah, but I heard that the guitar is split from fool. Can you get me an audition? Yeah, that was...

It was funny because, you know, like that thing, I've told that story before and it's sort of evolved on the internet into this internet rumor that you were in Guns and Rose. Yeah, that I was either in the other or was going to be in which none of that's true at all. And you have to like it's sort of hard to

remember in context of like 1999 that was like Guns and Roses was it was Axel and like a bunch of other guys. There was like no slash, no Duff, no ESI. You know, it was many years after all that. So had like Guns and Roses in 1987 haven't asked me to join their band. I definitely would have.

But at the time, you know, I was like, you know, my buddy Bill just knew somebody that knew somebody that could have, maybe could have got me an audition for whatever sort of version of it was happening then. So that was it. And I just said, you know, I heard Food Fighters need a guitar player. And so he wanted to help him get an audition. Did you ever dream of being, because you came basically from punk. Yeah, sort of.

I mean, I grew up listening to like classic rock, heavy metal, you know, sort of stuff. And then, you know, punk rock just sort of happened along the way. And I wound up playing a band called No Use for an A.m. And I was living up in San Francisco at the time. And that, you know, I'd been in that band about four and a half years at that time. So I kind of, you know, I don't know. At that time, I remember thinking, like, maybe this whole music thing has kind of run its course.

Maybe this is as far as it's going to go. And then the Foo Fighter thing popped up. And it was crazy. How was punk in the 90s? Punk in the 90s is great. I mean, that was the first time I was ever in a band that, you know, had a following, and people actually came out to see, and we toured and made records and did all that stuff. You know, it was great.

It's funny because in the 90s, I disconnected from music because of my commitment to comedy. Right. Like, I didn't, I really was. I was up on whatever you gave me. You know, I was up on Soundgarden Super Unknown and Bad Motifinger and Alive by, you know, the albums that were hired at that time. Previous to that, I would go to a record store and buy everything. But after the 90s, it was just so fast for me.

One minute I was listening to Here Comes the Rooster. And then the next minute it's 2003, and I'm listening to the Food Fighters, you know. Nirvana, once that tragedy happened in 94. So the later 90s got, I lost my music. whatever, you know. Well, there was that thing, you know, like in the early mid-90s when bands like Green Day and the offspring and stuff got really big. Right. And so there were, and so then like major labels went out and signed like all the punk rock bands and stuff.

But the label that, the band that I was in was on was this label called Fat Records. And that was like, you know, I mean, I guess you'd think of it as like indie punk rock, whatever, underground kind of thing. And it was, and that scene did really, really well, but it did really well outside of the mainstream. You know what I mean? It's like none of those bands got rated. had like radio hits or were featured in mainstream magazine or any of that sort of thing. So it was like it was a weird time because at the same time that that sound was like really big commercially, there was still this underground current of bands that weren't made, you know, that never broke through

that mainstream. And that was like the band that you were and you did tours obviously. Oh yeah. Yeah. And nationwide, worldwide. Yeah. I mean, we, you know, we toured Europe a couple times. opened up for a band

Dave wasn't at one time. Well, that was when I was in high school. Really? Yeah, that was, so he was in a bank called Scream before he was in Nirvana. And they played in Santa Barbara where I grew up. And I was in a band at the time called Rat Pack and our band opened up for their band.

And what's touring? At a Chinese restaurant. I never toured back then. You know, I never, like, in high school. I almost got it, I got a chance to join. There was a local band from Santa Barbara called RKL, Rich Kids on LSD. And they were looking for a bass player.

My brother, Scott, is an incredible bass player. So they really wanted to get him in the band. They called our house looking for him, but I answered the phone. And so they wound up coming over and playing me and they knew right. They just made this record that was like kind of a groundbreaking record in punk rock world called Lifestyles of the Rich Kids on LSD. And it was fucking nuts. Like it was way beyond my ability.

And I remember Bomber, who was the drummer and kind of the, the songwriter and leader of that band came over and sat there in my bedroom and played me all these songs. And I just, I didn't even bother to try. I just said, dude, I can't play that. So it was like, that was my first little taste of almost joining a band that were, like, I would have gone on the road and stuff,

but it was, you know, I had to wait a few more years. Now, years after that, when you were on the road with the punk rock bands and stuff, how was that? It's great. You're just in a van? Yeah, in a van, you know? We had like an econoline, I think it was. And it was like a pop-top of conaline.

It was the grace. Because like I never went anywhere when I grew up. So I was so eager to tour. I just wanted to get out and see the world. I just wanted to, I didn't care where I was. I'd be in the, you know, just on some empty road in the Midwest. He'd drive by a silo. And be like, fuck, look at that silo.

That's amazing. This is the best. And you guys just do like whiskey and gogos across the country. Are like worse than that most of the time. No shit. Yeah, like VFW halls and, you know, the Elks Lodge. And then every now and you'd play a club that had a decent PA or something. But a lot of time, it would be pretty low rent.

So it's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll. Yeah, that's for sure. I mean, you know, the craziest thing. I mean, outside it just, I mean, there were so many crazy things about when I joined the food fighters. But one of the great things to me at the time was like, I just didn't have to load my gear anymore. I just gave my guitar to this guitar tech. And then I never had to see it again until it was showtime. It was like heaven.

So, like, what do you think for, because I don't know music that, well, there has to be a, when you've auditioned for the Food Fighters, there's a lot of people who can play guitar really well. What, like, what do you think stood out for you? Like, why did they choose you? Like, what are bands looking for when they auditioned someone for something like that? I don't know, you know, it's a funny thing because I've never asked, like, I never asked David, the other guy.

I was like, specifically, why did I get the gig? You know, I don't know. I have my theories. But I think, you know, I'd like to think that part of it was, at least that I learned the shit before I came in. Okay. Like, you know. So, so you knew how to, you know,

play their songs. So you played their songs. Now, I thought you might, might have played some like covers or something. No, it was, they sent me a cassette tape of the stuff. I was actually in New York visiting some friends of mine and got a call from Food Fighters tour manager, Gus, who was like, hey, we're having auditions next week. We'll send you some songs if you want to come down and do it. So they sent me a cassette tape. And on the cassette tape, you see, they had made the third record with like wanting to fly and all that on it, but it wasn't out yet. So I didn't know that record. You know, nobody knew that record yet. But so it was a song off the first record, a song off the second record,

a song off the Godzilla soundtrack that I hadn't heard, but I guess was out, and then a song off the unreleased third record. Lamed to Fly. Yeah, it wasn't that, so it was a song called Aurora. No, no, but it was Lerick to Fly the album. Now, what was the album where the drummer quit and then Dave had to go on and do the tracks

was Learned to Fly? That was the second record. That was the second record. Yeah, yeah. That was the second record. Just great stories, like just how Dave put the band together. Yeah, yeah. The first guy joined, he didn't want a tour, he split, and then he came back. Yeah, yeah. But you're still the lead, and he's more of a rhythm guy?

I mean, there's not a ton of, like, you know, lead guitar type of stuff in Food Fighters. So I always get called the lead guitar player, but I just think I'm like, to me, I'm just one of the guitar players. It's just amazing how much the music is changed. Like, when I was growing up, you had a lead. Right. You had a lead.

Well, totally. You know, that was like when I was a kid. That's why I play guitar the way I do is because I wanted to be Ace Fraley and Randy Rhodes. And, you know, I wanted to be one of those. Who did you look up to when you first started playing? Oh, Ace Frey was. How fucking good is Ace. Yeah, he's the man.

I'm an Ace guy. I'm a Randy Rhodes guy. Randy Rhodes was a big one. But I'm also a David Gilmore guy. David Gilmore could take you the places where. I mean, I like to all those guys. I love Richie Blackmore. I like Richie Blackmore.

Eddie Van Halen. I just didn't like this fucking. attitude right he's always got on my last nerve he can never keep a singer you see what he looks like today yeah he looks like a fucking witch like the fact that he's on the road he should be shot on it he's not touring deep purple right

he's touring something else like he let the think doesn't he play like loot music or something he is out of his mind if you look up what he looks like I saw a picture he looks like a witch he wears the witch hat the whole fucking thing I thought he was always I saw him when I was young it was like rainbow and like I saw rainbow really yeah I never got to see rainbow like that era I mean Ronnie James Dio from it was like that

was that that lineup of rain tremendous yeah tremendous what's the one that to the to I forget the album but well there's like Kill the King and the King the good songs yeah long live rock and roll long live rock and roll and there's that one which one man on the Silver Mountain that was a hit mountain but then there's a But where do we go? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that called? Is that Stargazer?

Yes. Yes. Stargazer. I loved all that shit. Oh, yeah. You know, I love Clapton. You got to love Paige somewhere along the line. Sure, sure.

You know, once you watch the live shows out of New York, you're like, what the fuck was he thinking? Yeah. That was 1973. Oh, yeah. So who were your influences, basically? Yeah, it was like all that. You know, we like, I was lucky I had older brothers. You know, my older brothers had great record collection.

So it was a lot of stones, a lot of Beatles. And then, you know, just all the classic arcs. Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Ted Nugent, Deep Purple, and all that stuff. Joe Barry's Savagery. Yeah. And then it sort of turned into like Judas Priest and Scorpions and all that sort of thing. Iron Maiden was a big one in our house. Rush.

My brother Scott went like deep into Rush. So that was definitely. I didn't like Jake Lee Lee. Oh, Gettie Lee. and there's whatever his fucking name is. The drum was one of the best in the business. At that time, I still thought it was the guy from the police. I saw him live, and he was just fucking amazing.

Basio from Joe's Garage was always great. I mean, I liked all those guys. But as far as guitars, I liked that. I was a Gilmore guy. Randy just flipped the fucking switch. I was there when Van Halen opened up. for the Sabbath at the garden. Oh, really?

And it was like, like, silence, you know, into eruption and you really got me and running for the devil. Like, you just knew it was something special. But when I saw Randy, when I heard Randy, I knew we were on to a different fucking. Yeah, I was so sad, you know, I never got to see him play live. It was just, I was a little too young.

I didn't start going to shows until, like, 83. So I missed, you know, I didn't get to see a lot of those bands. I still remember the Dio, Ozzy crossover. Yeah, well, Dio was my first, that was my first concert. It was Dio on his first tour. No shit with Vivian Campbell. Yeah, oh yeah, Jimmy Bain and Vivian Campbell, Jimenez, Tremendous, Tremendous, yeah, unbelievable.

But it was crazy out of how his, the crossover, the Sabbath, was really rough for a lot of people. I loved it. I thought heaven and hell was great record. Let me tell you something. I was the first one that wanted to shoot Dio. but when I heard the fucking album you know

the proof is in the fucking pudding as much as I wanted to hate fucking DL I drove all the way to Philly and we saw Sabbath with Dio Sammy Hagar with Shaking Street Oh

people were fucking put and spit on their fingers and fling on them with Sammy Hagar Because Philadelphia has so much class You know what I say When they like it in Philly they like it My brothers saw that tour The Black and Blue Tour. It was Sabbath and Blue Oyster Col joined up later on.

I think they played at Ventura Fairgrounds. Yeah. Again, I was a little too young to go to that. Fucking tremendous. Yeah. I have great memories of my, because I shared a room with my brother Scott. How many brothers do you have?

I got two brothers. And they had the posters. Oh, yeah, all that stuff. But I remember like the refront of the bed. Yeah, and so my brother Scott was going to a lot of shows. He went to, he would like, he would come down to L.A. And he would see Van Hale, whatever. He saw all that stuff.

And I have the, like, I have great memories of waking up in the morning on, like, a school morning. And my brother being, like, sacked out in the bed below mine and just seeing his, like, crisp new concert t-shirt from the night before laid out on his chair, you know? I just, like, I remember seeing, like, the mob rules, you know, three-quarter length sleeve just kind of draped over. When I was growing up, you couldn't wear a concert t-shirt unless you went to that fucking month. Right. Like, people would stop you. Come here. Did you go to that concert? Take the fucking shirt.

How could you get it if you didn't go to the concert? No, because people would still like, if you go to the concert, bring me your shirt. Oh, okay. When I was like, the other night, some girl had his shirt on, some young girl at the rec room, and I felt like saying,

just give me one album that they wrote. Right, yeah. Just give me one out. I was just hum, hum one song. Just hum one fucking song. You know, my friend said he went to see the dead and bolder. He said, oh, deadhead. And he goes, you know, just as a trick,

just as a tree. I wanted to treat myself. You know, Mayor is fucking tremendous on that tour. Let me go out to call. This was a couple of years ago. He called me, like, the show started at 7.30,

Colorado time, which is like 5.30 here. I got a call, like, by fucking half hour later. He said he had to leave Red Rocks. There was just a bunch of rich white kids with fucking Grateful Dead shirts on Smoking Pot. And that upset him? Oh, this guy followed them. You know, this guy didn't take showers for eight days to go to a dead show.

And now he shows up and he's all these kids pulling up in BMWs with dead t-shirts ripped, you know, to show him like they, stop. Stop. You're not allowed in here. You can't wear that shirt. Okay. You didn't go to the show. How are you going to wear that shirt? I saw they've got like a grateful deadline at James Purse.

It's like, oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's got a bum your friend. out pretty hard. Oh, it bums me out. It bums me out. Name one fucking, you know, I had to fucking get on the bus and go see these shows and fight Puerto Ricans to get into the fucking, to get into New York City. You know how it was to get like ACDC, Deaf Leopard tickets, you know, in 81, 80, like, it was rough to go in there. People would take your shit. I remember the Ozzy Oz one, some guy just jumped on my friend that started dry-humping him during the

concert. He had to throw a beat on the guy during the fucking concerts. shit. I'm scared. You earned that shirt. You had to earn that fucking shirt. I read the first show that I went to that Dio show. You know, this was in 83. So it was maybe a couple years after that, like, all those people have been trampled to death at that Who concert in Cincinnati. That's right. That's right. And as, and I was like, you know, 12 or whatever. I remember just being in like, oh, shit. Some, some crazy shit's going to go down. It's being on edge until the show kind of got going. I was, okay, okay. I think I'm safe. I got it. Well, and I can't believe I'm blanking on his name. Who was the guy who came in here

He does all the traveling now He was in he's in a heavy like a heavy metal band And he said his fans used to punch him during the show Oh Sid Quirin No no he has all the tattoos He does the podcast Henry Rollins He said he used to get in fights mid show Oh yeah that was a different world of punk

That's crazy That's a different world That was 80s punk right Yeah I mean that was I'm sure he's I can't remember the name of that. Had some rough times. Yeah, that was...

Black flag? Black, that's right. Black, black. That's rough. Now, as a kid, when did you pick up the guitar? I started playing when I was about 11. Yeah.

And at 18, did you have any dreams, any illusion? Yeah. No, I kind of... I feel like, you know, now that I have kids and... No, no. I'm a dad.

Like, I feel like I was pretty lucky that I knew what I wanted to do from a very... Like a really young, no, from like 14, maybe. It's like that's when it really like, it's when I started going to see shows a lot. And I was going down to L.A. a lot to go see shows. And I just thought, you know, that's for me. I want to do that.

So pretty much from that point on, I just thought, I'm just kind of counting the days until I turn 18. And then I'm going to move to L.A. And I'm going to go, you know, go make it. Is that exactly what you did at 18? More or less. When I turned 18, I was kind of, I had dropped out of high school at the beginning of my senior year. And I was just kind of fucking around and didn't have a job and was just hanging out at the beach every day and not really doing much of anything. And I remember about a week before my 18th birthday, my mom was like, my mom was a probation officer up in Santa Barbara.

And she was like, fuck this. I got you a job on Monday. Go see Linda down at probation and you've got a job now. I was like, ah. So she basically made me get a job. Which was like the best thing that ever happened to me at that point because I went and I, and I, I got a job the probation department is like a, just like a clerk, you know, in the records room filing shit. And because of that job, that was right when I turned 18 and then I worked there

for maybe like six months or something. I saved up enough money to move to L.A. I saved up enough money to buy an amp and move to L.A. That's what that job did for me. And how many years did you go around and kicking around in bands for? Oh, I mean, I first started playing bands in like ninth grade and played in lots of bands all through high school and moved to LA and played in a bunch of different bands and then moved up to San Francisco in 95 and right after that I joined No Use For Name and then, you know, that was their money then?

Were you just getting by? That was, no use for name was the first, that was like I was, you know, I was paying rent most of the time. You know what I mean? How weird is that to tell somebody that you were? Well, I had like my nut was like, you know 450 bucks a month or something like that and I was good you know yeah that was my nut

my nut was like eight bills and I still struggled yeah kept my nut love well we would come on from tour you'd have a little money in your pocket I'd have you know I'd be good for a couple of months and then I'd go get a job delivering pizzas or working at the coffee shop or whatever until we went on tour again and I did that for pretty much the whole time I was in no use was it hard for you guys to start asking for money for I mean comedy and the music look was it where no you you you were good at You were just like, you know, it's funny, you know, it's funny you ask,

I don't know what it's like for comedians, but in music, especially in America, like you're really kind of treated like a criminal in the club world until you, you know, have a booking agent and you put records out and all, and even then,

still, you know, I mean, you go out and they don't want to, you know, nobody wants to honor your writer or give you any, you know, you ask for water and towels or some beers or something

that people like, oh, fucking rock star, you know, that whole. thing. Right. Which kind of blew my mind the first time I ever tour Europe because you tour Europe and it's they just have a whole different system over there, you know, where they just, they do like they feed you. They give you all the booze you can drink. You know, it's just a

different thing. But in the States, it's really hard, man. You don't get paid. Even when, even when you're a relatively kind of popular band, you can sell 50 or 100 tickets or what, you know what I mean? Like, you're still not really. It's, I think it was maybe easier when I was first starting out. I think it's much harder now. I just look at it with my own, like, my solo touring stuff. And it's like, I don't really have a huge draw or anything. And it's, like, I know how I do it. It's kind of a luxury for me.

You know, I enjoy it and it's fun. But it's a fucking black hole financially. You know, like, I don't know how any young band does it. It's nuts, you know? I don't know how anybody gets a foothold anymore. Years ago, I don't know the name of the band. now. I know that they were popular in the early 2000s, and they got another guitar playing, and they moved on.

But a kid in my building in Hollywood, this had to be 99, was one of the opening bands on their tour. And he basically said they did not get paid. Right. On this. Now, sometimes people pay. Right, they were paying. They paid to get on this tour.

They were the first band you saw. There was two other bands. than them. Yeah. And they were hot at the time. I just can't remember that the name doesn't come to me. But it was costing them to pay. You got the music business 30 years ago,

and today is completely fucking different. Yeah. There's no music sales. Well, you know, in the mid-90s, you know, when I was first starting the tour, you could still sell CDs. So like our record label, it was like a small punk rock label.

So they wouldn't cut us a check for tour support. But they would give you as many CDs as you could sell. And that was sort of de facto tour support. And you would sell them. You know, those bands in that scene existed on T-shirts and CDs. Because you would just sell shitloads of them at your shows. And that's how we were able to do it. It's crazy how much music is changed.

I was talking to Rudy. And he was told Rudy Sarth. Oh, yeah. We were talking about when whites, when he was with, I guess, Quiet Ryan and somebody else, you would guarantee a certain amount of money every night in T-shirt sales. So the opening band was guaranteed $750 a night. So if he did four shows, that was side money. And then the headliner was guaranteed, whatever, $1,500 a band member.

Wow. For shirts, you know, even at that, and they were doing arenas. Yeah. Like, the numbers of, I kept them small because I don't want people to think I'm exaggerating or whatever, but they were up there. I'm sure. What they were making. They were also, you were also selling music at record stores, you know.

Yeah. Now we don't have. All those bands were losing money on tour, I think, back then, too. And now it's completely gone the other. Right. It makes money on tour. Well, you have no choice. Yeah, you have no choice to.

You have to. I saw them. I saw a quiet, right. That was the first big show I ever saw. It was Quiet Riot at the forum with White Snake opening up. That's what he was saying, yeah, Quiet Riot. It was White Snake that when John Sykes was a guitar player. Jesus Christ.

Yeah, that was a good show. And now you're in the Foo Fighters. You've done how many albums with the Foo Fighters? Oh, man. I don't even know if I'd have to check. It's a bunch. I mean, it's 20 years to come on. Did you learn tracks on learning to fly?

Did I learn him? No, no. Oh, I didn't record on that right. What did you record on? That was the next record. One by one, you recorded. That was the first record. According to Wikipedia, it says seven.

Yes. You've been on seven fucking foolfighters out. I think so. Wow. How do you feel? Pretty good. And do you still feel like you've made it? Yeah, I mean, kind of, yeah.

I mean, you know, sure. But I don't, I'm just not hardwired to go like, yes, we've made it. No, you're opposite. I still feel like in any minute, like, things could be pulled. You know, the rug could be pulled out from under you. You know, I saw, like, your videos. I watched your videos.

Then I saw one of your, I look like, a little bit of pictures. I'm like, he looks like a guy I can buy, like, a surfboard from. Like, you have no. I do have some for sale. I was going to say. So we'll talk after the show. You have no, you didn't come in here with a rock star attitude or a rock star, anything.

You're just a beach guy that plays the fucking ukulele. guitar. Because I know you love your guitar. I've seen pictures of you with, you know, you're such an interesting guy because I see a picture of you with a flying V. You know, there you are, Michael Shankler Jr. And then you're also, like, you're great friends with fucknut, you know, Wheeler Walker and you're into Hunky. And you're into Honky Town. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your podcast. Yeah. You interview country people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's so weird how I see you on stage fucking jamming the best of you, and then you know, you just put out a song June 16th, and it's honky time. Well, it's funny, you know, to me, like country music and rock and roll music aren't that far apart. And, like, you know, I got a lot of good friends, you know, certainly in rock. And then in country too, and it seems like, especially with country music people, there's so much crossover there, you know, like so many. of the people that I know in the world of country and Americana and all that are, you know,

people that grew up listening to rock and roll music too. So I, like, to me, they kind of go hand in hand. But, you know, I know like to a lot of people that, like it might seem strange, like genre hopping, but it doesn't feel like that so much to me, you know. You're an artist. You're a fucking artist. I'm an artist, God damn it.

You're a fucking artist. Now, do what I want! Didn't John Lennon say, if you gave him a tuba, He'd figure out how to get a fucking sound out of me. Right. You're an artist. Nothing more than I love. You know, I loved when, I mean, don't get me wrong, the singer was horrible.

But I loved when fucking Joe Perry left Arrow Smith and did the Joe Perry project. You know, I love, when I see a guitar player, a drummer, when I see a fuck nut, the other guy from Guns and Roses, great guy. Mark Duff. Yeah, yeah. Collaborate with a shooter, okay? You're telling me something. Yeah, yeah. You're telling me, number one, you're not a fucking knucklehead.

That growing up, if I came to your house. That's up for debate. If I came to your house with opera, a guy like he would find the beauty in it. Sure. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. When it comes to music. I think that's true for most musicians.

Like most musicians have, I think, have pretty broad musical taste. You know, most people that, like, sort of spend a life in music. Well, it's shit that shocks you. That's what it is. Like, when. When you ask somebody, what's your favorite? Like, I remember I saw this big black dude one time with Dredge, and he came up to me at the comedy stage.

Like, hey, man, you're shooting the longest yard. And I'm like, hey, this Adam Sandler is my favorite. I'm like, aren't you in the Crips? Like, how is Adam Sandler your fucking favorite? You know what I had people shocked me. So even when I see musicians who they like and who they support, and, you know, like you and Wesley Walker, Wheeler Walker, you know, you're two different fucking dudes, but you're the same.

He's an artist, man. Yeah, sure. I figured out how to just write, he's got great country music. Yeah. I mean, the band behind him is, I think that's why his, I think that's why his records have done well, you know. It's like those songs are catchy, you know, you know. If he didn't have a good. It's funny because I interviewed him for, for, when I first met him is when I interviewed him for my, for my podcast.

And, uh, and my wife, I was listening to, it was one of his first record. Big fat tits or something like that. And I was listening to it, like, just kind of getting some questions together, like listening. And my wife came home. She didn't know that it was like a, you know, it's like a, she didn't know that it was tongue in cheek, you know, his lyrics. And he was like, fuck you bitch and all that stuff. And she came. She's like, what the fuck is this ignorant shit?

You're listening. She got so mad. I'm doing research. Has she met him? I don't think so. Maybe. Does she want to meet him? Maybe not.

Maybe. But it just always intrigued me When I You know as a child And as a fan of music When a guy takes off Does something That's completely different from him

What his genre is Sure That shows me he's a true fucking artist And that's what is in his heart He enjoys playing Erickman music He enjoys doing big 10 inch and fucking whatever On the weekends He dresses up like Spider-Man

And he plays a violin I don't fucking know Well I tell you you know It's really true like I did a lot of solo touring in the first part of this year. You know, some of it just full on, like just me in an acoustic guitar. And some of it with a band. And we, you know, like did a lot of, logged a lot of miles, you know, for like pretty much the first half of the year.

And then we went back and did a week of shows with Fuz in the States and then just did a couple weeks in Europe. And it really does kind of like, it's one of the advantages of doing what we do is the fact that I do have the time to go out. and do these other things. I can come back to it. I'm like, it just kind of recharges you as a player, you know? Didn't what's his name say? Success is going from area to area with equal enthusiasm. MacArthur said that.

And it's really, I enjoy that too. Yeah, it's good. When you're sketched up to be a comic for years, I just saw comics getting whipped every week. Carry that luggage on Tuesday, see you Sunday, get home Monday morning, turn around, do laundry. And I love doing stand-up. I got nothing against it.

But you know what? I live in L.A. I want to do a movie from time to time. Right. And from time to time, I don't want to go on the road. I've got to do three podcasts one week. And I think that that keeps me sharp. That keeps me sharper than I've ever been.

Yeah. When I was just doing stand-up all the time, I was just living in a stand-up world. I could just see just living for the foot. You know, just living for the fucking foo. And, you know, I think about it now in hindsight. If he would have done that, like if they would have done that,

They were probably Stamot Glenn Fry's dead like the Eagles. There was, that six or seven years, did you ever see that what they went through with, like before the long run, they had a hard time. Oh, yeah. They had the follow-up to Hotel, California. And then before that, they had now. So all those three albums, they were together like it every fucking day.

Well, there's something. Six or seven years. There's something about, yeah, like touring all the time. It's like you kind of put your life. life on hold. Yeah. It's like a time machine. I don't want to see you

every day for three years. I'm going to love you. You're my best fucking friend. But eventually we're going to disagree on some. Right. And eventually we're going to disagree and then disagree and disagree and then it's a powder keg. And then they didn't want to talk to each other.

Right. When I see a guy like Don Felder, I wish that after like Hotel California, he would have gone down. If they didn't want him to sing on that fucking song, you know, they screwed him all over. Right, right. Fine.

You're that good of a fucking guitarist. go get three fucking dudes and go put something together up at the Canyon Club. Right. And put it down. And that would have gave that situation some levity. Yeah. That's why I think you guys are so successful, the footh fighters. Because

that motherfucker is always doing something. Yeah. That dude, David Groh, you know, you look at him, he's always doing something. Oh, definitely. He's in Cuba playing conga drums. He's in a fucking, you know, he's in Virginia doing this. Yeah. And, you know, pretty much everybody

and the band is like in one way or another. And I think that probably, you know, it's got to have something to do with the longevity of the band. You know, everybody kind of goes and scratches whatever itch. They need to scratch, and then you come back and you're good to go. I mean, you're going on close to 17 years. 20 years. 20 years, yeah.

Wow, yeah. Jesus Christ. And you still sound better than ever. I mean, so as part of you doing solo touring, is, and I know you're not going to say you get sick of it because, but what does it feel like to be on tour and you're doing songs that you wrote 15, 20 years ago? Does you still get enjoyment out of that?

Is it more exciting to play new stuff? Yeah, I mean, I think, of course, it's always more exciting to play new stuff because, like, you know, you don't know it as well, and there's a little more of that fear factor. Okay. When you got a new album and you're trying to remember the, you know, it's just less muscle memory.

And those are the songs that give you that little, rush like, oh, I hope I don't fuck this up, you know? Okay. But, you know, at the same time, like, you know, all my life and ever long and songs like that, always, it's always great, you know? Right. I mean, we, it's, we're not the type of band that's going to come out and do, like, you know, weird jazz versions of the songs you want to hear and all that, sort of play a bunch

of, like, obscure B-Sides. It's just not what we do. And I don't think that's what people want to see. Right. And, you know, nowadays it's like, you know, it's like. to come to for anybody to come to a show is like you're talking to tickets are expensive parking get a sitter just get in let alone you buy a beer and a t-shirt or something it's like eight thousand dollars yeah you can't like not play learn to fly because maybe you're you don't

feel like it that night you know what i mean like you got it you got to just bring it every night and i think um i don't i think daves really that's one of his uh gifts as a band leader is like he gets up for if you could see him before we go on stage he's like bouncing bouncing off the walls for like an hour. And I think that that's just how he gets like, he gets, gets it gets going, you know, to lead the charge.

He's a true performer. Oh, for sure. And, uh, you know, like I read a little bit about him, his early stuff with Nirvan and stuff like that. He, you could see he enjoys it. Oh, definitely.

There's a lot of people that do it for the drugs. There's a lot of people that do for the broads. You know, it's one thing to really. We do it for those things. we enjoy right right but it's it's one thing to be up there you know and really be having a great time I just on the plane right back from whatever last week I had not much everything I had downloaded I had watched and I watched Rolling Stones whatever oh la la from Netflix and towards the end of the thing they're in Cuba and he's doing can't get no

satisfaction right yeah I'm sitting on the plane I got an edible in me. My mind's in fucking. I'm like, 40 years, he's been singing, I can't get no satisfaction. You know? Yeah. How do they go out and still have that enthusiasm? All I can think about is the audience.

The audience. You know, last time I was watching the Queen movie for a little while. I was watching that in 60 minutes, and I don't know what stadium they had done, Queen. They put Rami, whatever's fucking name is, the singer, put the tape in. and there was a minute there where the whole arena was singing some, I forget the song right now. You know, sometimes

the energy that you get from the crowd. You don't know what do you think? You think I want to be funny every fucking night? You think you want to be funny every night? But when you're listening to the audience and you're in the back and that's why I don't like a bunch of idiots in the Green Room talk and get the fuck out of here.

I'm listening to that audience. You might be talking to me. I'm not listening to you in the Green Room. I'm listening to that audience, and that audience is getting my dick harder and harder. So sometimes, I love, you know, you sit there and you go,

how can you do the peanut joke again, Joey? Again, do people, they don't want to hear you do? You know, there's nothing worse than going to see Santana. You know, like you're going to the Hollywood Bowl. You're going to see Santana. You're ready for fucking, you know, not Oje Como, but the other one.

And also he's like, This is a new song I wrote about Mexicans crossing the border. Listen, save that for fucking save that for the jazz bar in Malibur right on Mexican night. Today you're doing fucking you're doing Samba Petit.

Well, I'm going to throw a fucking fit here, okay? And it's true what you said, people pay $3,200 for a ticket. It's not cheap going to get on these days. They don't want to hear Dave go, this is a little song I wrote while I was roller skating.

You know what I'm saying? Get the fucking. fuck out of here. Sing that, play that fucking funky music, white boy. I tell you, you know, you mentioned the Stones, we got to back up Mc Jagger a few years ago on

on S&L, which is like the greatest night of my life. And you do, we did a few rehearsals throughout the week with him. And you're talking about, like, how does he get up to play those songs, wherever? He would come in every day and go, like, yeah, I'm, you know, my voice is a little sore.

I'm just going to, I'm not going to kind of, lay off a little bit and the minute Taylor would count the song in he just became fucking Mick Jagger he couldn't not be Mick Jagger you know he became he just yeah he just he would and every time he was saying I'm just gonna go lay back and then yeah and he never took it light he just went full you know 110 percent every time when he bangs those little 23 year olds I'm 70 I'm not gonna put it in your ass bam next thing you know You got a dick in your ass And you're hearing fucking beast of burden

You know what I'm saying Were you, did you grow up a Mick Jagger fan? Oh, big time Big time. Yeah, they're like my ultimate. Really? Yeah. Are you going to go catch them in Pasadena?

I'd like to, yeah. Are you thinking about it? I'm thinking about it. Yeah, when is that gig? I think they reschedule. I think it's still August 20 something like that. Uh-l-l-l-la. I think we're on overstate.

at that point. Have you watched that Rolling Stones? Oh, la la. No, is that good? Pretty interesting. Them going through South America. Oh, right. And him learning all the different dialects

from the countries. And him coming out and talking shit in Spanish. Yeah. He's brilliant. Does he pull it off? He pulls it off. When he goes to Cuba, he pulls it off. When he goes to these places,

you can see him how he gets a report. And he does research on the town so he can talk shit. That's what comics do. You open up with a couple local references. I mean, Leonard's going to goes to Alabama, they're not going to open up with fucking, you know, whatever.

They're going to open up with Sweet Home Alabama. A couple people start slitting. What do you think about all these music movies coming out? Especially, like the one that really that interests me is that Beatles one. We're like he, I think that's kind of a cool concept where like no one remembers the Beatles.

Do you guys as a band think like, oh, it'd be kind of cool to have a movie based off our music I mean, I would like to hope that we're many years away from being one of those. Yeah, really? Having a movie made about us. But, you know, I mean, yeah, that'd be pretty. I loved the queen one and in large part probably because I'm not a crazy diehard queen fan that knew all the stories and had, you know, knew that where they took license.

Well, I mean, I like, I like, I didn't know like, I didn't know the details of how they came up. So I could just kind of watch it as a casual fan, whereas like Pat and Taylor who know all, like what, that's wrong, that's wrong, they comboed that. You know what I mean? I think maybe, you know, saw it differently, even though I think they liked it too. But I thought it was great.

And it got my youngest son listening to Queen constantly, which I thought it was great. And then that kind of turned him, he like, I don't know, turned him into a little rock and roll fan. So I thought it was great. But like, you know, most of the time with those movies, if I know too much about the subject matter, I can't get past it.

Like I tried to watch that Netflix Motley Crew movie, and I made it about half an hour. I didn't know. I can't fucking watch this. Why didn't you like? Because I was like the biggest fucking Motley crew fan ever, and I couldn't, there was no, I just couldn't look at those guys

pretending to be Motley, I just couldn't do it. I don't know why. You know, there was no, what's the term I'm looking for? Suspension of disbelief. suspension of disbelief yeah yeah I couldn't I just couldn't get there you know that's interesting yeah why like why would you hope that it would be a while until you had a movie based on the plane because we're still here we're still doing it's still rock in the road it's too soon I don't even know what the what's the beetle what's the

beetle I don't I think it's like the one person remembers the Beatles that way except in an alternate universe and he's the only one that remembers the Beatles like the Beatles didn't exist but he knows all the songs so he take he starts he become a star doing all the old Beatles hits. I haven't seen the movie, so I don't know what happens, but it was just like they have the entire soundtrack. Fuck him. Yeah, I mean, honestly, like, there's nothing about,

I watch the trailer, there's nothing, no offense to anybody involved in that movie, but there's like nothing about it that appealed to me, but who knows. So oftentimes with those kind of things, like, you watch it and you're kind of, you see it on a plan, and you're like, yeah, that wasn't so bad. Okay. Not like, I like that opening up, I really enjoy. One of the things I really enjoy about what I do on this podcast is when I play a song that I've heard 20,000 times. And when I play it, I get 20,000 people ask me what song is that?

Right. And it could be burning up from El Bent the Leather. You know, nothing bothers me more that people really don't know the original five album, fucking monster that Aerosmith is. Right. You know, from that first album to that night at the ruts, which a lot of people didn't like, I'm not a big fan of it either, but nobody really knows, like, get your wings.

Nobody really knows that. You know, it's so weird that you say that, because I saw them at the forum a few years ago, and it was really, like, 90s hit heavy, the set, and people were fucking losing their minds. And I had that same realization, like, wow, none of these people even know fucking the good shit. They don't have them.

And they're not clamoring to hear it either. You know what I mean? This has been the thing that has, I love music podcast. I love doing them. I try to do one or two. I try to get Dean Delray in one. I remember the first time me and Burke Reischer spoke about Guns and Roses out here that we played Don't Cry in November rain.

People were emailing me for weeks because they only know, welcome to the jungle. They know the new generation, just knows that, you know, I played, what was Sammy Hagar, Ronnie Montrose. Oh, yeah. You know, Space Station number, whatever, 18. Yeah. The next day, people lost their mind.

Prince, side of the times, there are certain songs, John and Hall and Oates, I can't go for that. Jesus, people lost their mind. You know, Kin, what was that? Greg Ken? Yeah, Jeopardy. You know, there's been so many songs that, and it makes me, like, go, holy fuck.

So now when I wake up in the morning, I play the three songs that are on my mind, whether it's Cowboys from Hell, you know, a little band. I play a couple of foolfighter things. But a lot of people know the foolfighters, like everybody knows. But there's bands, you might, Michael Shankner, UFO lights out, they jump out a fucking window. You know, they jump out of window. When I play live UFO. Yeah.

Yeah, it's really weird, and that's why I get mad sometimes because fucking they'll flag me and they'll say I'm going to get sued. And I can't see a band getting mad at me. Who flags you? YouTube. Oh, for real? Yeah. Oh. Yeah.

If this was different, I'd have on fucking albums on right now with videos, are you breaking down where you got the riff from? Right, right. You can't do it. I'd rather do that with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. can't do it YouTube yanks it flips it I want to see kids to get educated on you know this is where this yeah here uh when you hear a blow up the outside world you could tell Chris Cornell was influenced by that's the Beatles blow out the outside world is John

Lennon basically right right like a little bit so I want people to know but that's the that's the tough thing I want to and I hear it all the time people call into Eddie trunk and shit and they yell at them. They're like, there should be more radio stations. It would fucking hold the music to show these kids. This is like the thing with, it seems like, you know, every time we do an interview now, people go, why are there no rock bands? What happened to rock music? Where's all the rock bands? And it's the same thing. It's like, you know, there's a million of them. Like, just why aren't they getting mainstream exposure? You know, there's tons of rock bands

out there. It sounds of great rock bands out there. Great rock bands. You know? Why, why it's that They're not in the mainstream in this day and age. I don't know. You know, why have, well, I read Keith Richard's biography, but he made a great, his book a couple of years ago, he made a great point. We don't even make live albums anymore.

Right. No bands make live albums anymore because of the technology. We've forgotten how to wire a drum. Like, they're like, they forgot how to wire a fight. Have you read that, that chapter in the book? Yeah, yeah. It was like, we got so technological that we forgot the basics. Well, you know, it is interesting because that somewhere along the lines, you know,

with digital recording and everything, the emphasis started getting more on like making everything perfect and everything's got to line up perfectly. And, you know, that's the reason all the albums that we've been sitting here talking about sound the way they do is because they weren't perfect at all. They were all fucked up, you know? Shit's out of whack. That's what makes it sound the way it sounds. And we get away, and we all got away from that.

I mean, that is one of the things I really like about, you know, these last couple of solo records I made with this guy. I don't know if you're familiar with Dave Cobb, who's the producer. He's done tons of, like, Chris Stapleton and people like that. But he records, like, the way that you make those records, there's no click track. Everybody's set up in a room recording live. That's like all the basic tracks.

And it's like, you know, it's still recorded in ProTools. It's not like it's like super throwback or trying to be ready. retro or anything, but the sort of the heart of it is less picked over, you know? How was the recording and the writing process of the Foo Fighters? I mean, it varies from album to album, for sure. I mean, there was a couple records we did that we recorded everything on tape, and that was really fun because, you know, you just have, you know, you'd get like one, I'd get like one guitar track instead of like when you're recording in Pro Tools,

you get like as many guitar tracks as you want, and then we'll figure it out in the mix. you know, kind of thing. So it was fun. You know, you pretty much, we each got like one track, you know, and you'd have to do whatever you were going to do on that one track. But it was cool because you, like, you know, we'd be punching in with different pedals and different amps and different sounds. So that one track would go from like, you know, kind of jump all over the place.

In the writing process, is it Dave yourself? It's usually the way it goes is like Dave writes a bunch of stuff. He'll have a bunch of riffs and song I do. is and stuff and he'll usually go record them um just him you know playing everything and he'll send those out to everybody and then we all kind of learn them and then we get together and jam on them as a band and uh and just kind of jam on them and record them and keep kind of keep kind of keep kind of working on until usually we'll do that for a while and then um when he feels like everything's ready to go we'll jump in and and go record it for real what are you guys doing now touring yeah we just

got home we're just over in Europe and did a bunch of festivals and did a couple of of our own shows we played like we'd never been to Croatian we played in this old roman like gladiator arena place uh in Pula that was fucking mind-blank it was like small but like it was ruins it was incredible it's like so cool um so we just did that and a bunch of festivals and then we've got a couple more weeks in august and then in a couple of things here and there. We're going to South America and Central America in end of September, October,

I think it is. And how long will that tour go, though? That's, that's, I mean, I wouldn't even call it a tour. It's like, I think, three or four shows, something like that. That's it. Yeah, just kind of quick. And then, you know, the couple weeks in August is probably seven or eight shows or something like that, too.

Then you come back and you do your own thing now. I'm not sure. Yeah, I have, with my thing, I'm doing some shows. this week actually around southern california um in like costa mesa and out of pappy and harriots and then baker's field and then here in l.a on sunday and um and then i've got i haven't announced yet but we might as well announce it now i'm i'm going to do a couple weeks in september of of my own shows so throughout where around around like i think it starts in outside of denver and then goes through the midwest a little bit in the south winds up an americana fest in nashville now what's

your show on your own mostly it well it depends sometimes i go out and do just me and a guitar yeah and that's like acoustic and that's fun i like doing that but i'm i'm you know as a guitar player i want to be able to play off of at least a play off a rhythm section you know so i can play leads and stuff um so i for for the for the shows in for the shows around town this weekend i just threw together you know a new lineup of dudes and we've actually been rehearsing the last couple days and trying to learn the songs and get it together. So fingers crossed. I went on the, I went on the Foo Fighters website. It, you know, gave me, but it didn't give me a lot of stuff. Do you have your own website? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. What's that website? It is, what is it? Chris Shifflet Music.com.

Where are you playing in Bakersfield? We have a lot of people in Bakersfield. Oh, really? It's, uh, that I think it's called the Timbler Brewery. Yeah. You know that plays? Yeah. I do it. I do it. Oh, really? Oh, cool. Yeah, I've never been. That's a great point. Yeah. I think. Yeah, I think it's right by the Crystal Palace. Yeah, that's fucking huge. You've been an interesting guy, brother. I mean, did you ever think it would get to this? I mean, there's no limo.

There's no body going on with you. You're in the fucking fool fight. Yeah. And then now you do the podcast. Yeah. How long have you been doing that for? I've been doing it for a few years now. I started in 2013.

No shit. Yeah. But when I first started, like, you know, I didn't know what the, I'm still don't know nobody knows what they're doing right yeah but so so when I first started doing I I would put one up and then I wait like a month and a half and I put up another one and then I wait two weeks and I put up you know what I mean I had like no sort of set thing and then I'd take four months and not do it and you know what I mean I was just real like kind of jackass about it and then there was a certain point where I realized fuck I got to be consistent with this and I started doing every week and I did that for like a year I did it every week and that was like

too much and then I backed it now I do about every two weeks although I haven't put one up for for a few weeks right now I just been too busy it was between the Food Fighter tour and getting ready for these shows, I just haven't that time. But I'm going to not, I usually put them up on Monday, so not next money, but I think the next Monday I'll probably think. The Name of the Podcasts is... It's called Walking the Floor.

Walking the Floor. Now, it says that you put country artists. Yeah, a lot of country. Country Americana roots, but, you know, rock stuff too and some punk rock. Yeah, just kind of, you know, whoever. I kind of want to sort of expand beyond just even doing musicians. You know, I think it'd be fun to just talk to anybody. Who else have you had on that?

kind of guess that's how much of country circus uh laceda williams and twilight yokem and merle haggard i got to interview no shit yeah um got marty stewart rodney krawell um sturgill simpson wheeler walker of course um i interviewed i mean so many people uh jason is well tons of tons of who influenced you in the country like who did you hear and say wow like for me it was johnny cash johnny cash is the entry point for me because you know like you know all that son record stuff between like Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis and all that stuff but like Johnny Cash was probably the first like country country artist I ever listened to and um and but the big ones from here like merle haggard and buck owens or are probably the the kings you know merle for me yeah I love

my friend of mine that I always played merle in Colorado yeah Jesus so good he wrote the best songs he really did his lyrics were so good and it was just a different I don't I know. Country, like, I heard about a tour one time that, like, Chris Christopherson, and those guys isn't responsive by Budweiser, Budweiser, like, cut them off in the tour. Like, they had drank too much beer. Like, you know, those types of stories that get my dickards. Like, I can care less about heroin and all that shit.

Yeah, yeah. But when four guys, I think it was Chris, I don't even know, like, the four, the three other dudes he was with. But all those type of stories, I love all that shit, you know? Yeah, I think it's funny with especially like the honky tonk era of country where the image that they projected was this very clean cut, wholesome family, churchy kind of thing. And those guys were drinking whiskey and taking tons of speed and fucking everything that moved. Like they were the biggest fuckups of all, you know what I mean? I think there's something so classic in that, you know, the way that's presented to the world.

Well, they hit it. Everybody else came with long hair. They came with that little fucking sweaters on. Yeah, they were going harder. than probably most of the rock bands at that time. They always have like those older women moderators at the beehive. I can see him fucking them in the back. Yeah.

After the fun, you're an interesting guy, man. This has been great. Yeah. I don't want to take more of your time. I don't know how long you got or whatever. You showed up early like a gentleman. Yes, sir.

When people have a podcast, they show up early. Yes. I don't know who it is. It's so weird. You even surprised the hell out of me. Well, it's funny, you know, L.A., it's like, it's like I live on the other side of town, and I had to run a couple errands before I got here. You know, it is like, it might take you an hour and a half to get here, or it might take you 20 minutes. You just never fucking know in this town, you know?

It's like you try to play on your dad. Yeah. Who knows, you know? It's always a mystery. You're such an easygoing guitar player. Yeah, I'm trying. Like you're trying. Tell my wife that.

She keeps calling me an asshole. How long have you been married for that? I've been married what is it 16 years now yeah and the kids my oldest about to turn 16 and then I got a 12 year old

that's about to turn 13 what do they think about that dad being the motherfucking fool fighters I think that they are they think I don't know if well I they definitely think it's cool they don't really tell me that though you know what I talk shit then you ever hear him on the phone

like fuck you my dad's the foolfighters. No, I've never heard him do that, but like, you know, my, my oldest figured out, like, sometime in the last year or so, like, oh, fuck, my dad can get free concert tickets. Dad, I need those tickets to that Tyler the creator show at the forum. Go get them. You know, like that kind of thing. That's when it clicks for my kids. Like, oh, Dad's got a cool job. I can see your dad telling me some kid. Fuck you in the monkeys. My dad was in the motherfucking food fighters, bitch. I love it. I love it. I love it, man. Hey, listen. Listen, anytime you want to come on.

Right on. What's the name of this last song that you just released? There's, oh, welcome to your first heartache. Or there's an album that I put out. Yeah, it's hard lessons. Yeah, hard lessons. Yeah. Is that a single?

That's the album. That's the album. When did that get released? That came out June 14th, so last month. So that's what you're touring. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

All right, man. When's the last time you're going to release a podcast? Not this next week, but the week after. You promise? Yeah, I swear to God. We will fucking have them listen. Don't forget to listen to Chris Jefflett on walking the floor. I mean, yeah, no, we covered everything I wanted to ask you.

There was nothing I wanted to ask you out of this world. I like, are you doing this? Like, you don't have to edit it afterwards? The video, yeah. The video works with you right now. That is so great because that's the part of podcasting. I fucking hate the most. It's going back and listening to it and like slapping it together for release.

Yeah, I mean, that's a hard part of. of keeping it consistent is the more stuff you add to it. Yeah. The last thing I kind of wanted to ask is you mentioned that there was a point right before Food Fighters where you were considering quitting. Well, I wasn't so much that I was considering quitting. I just sort of was seeing the, I thought that I was seeing, I thought that it had peaked for me.

You know what I mean? Like I dropped out of high school, like I said. And I went to, I took like some classes at San Francisco City College. And we had made a new record, but we went out yet. and just kind of had this little moment of like, hmm, you know, my dad always said I could move, move in with him and he'd pay for me to go to school. Maybe I should kind of think about just kind of doing a left turn here.

But, and then the Food Fighter thing came up and none of that happened. How old were you at that time? I think it was, what, 27, 28 when I joined the house. 28 when I joined foods. It's a fucking perfect age. Yeah. I feel like it was a perfect age because I wasn't like 19 and stupid. You know what I mean?

Because who knows? Yeah. No, you were the perfect age. I had already slept on a few floors. Yeah, exactly. You know how nice it was. Now we're in the four seasons. Oh, dude.

Big fucking difference. The day I got the gig, our tour manager goes, hey, you want me to get your room at the Sunset Marquis? We're staying there. I was like, what? I used to my own room? Yeah. Really?

All right. I'm in. It's a baby. Were you married at that time already? No. Dating? No. I had a girlfriend.

Not her. Not your wife. No, no, no. Yeah. Fuck that bitch. She left. Well, you know, you became a star. She left at the wrong.

She was a nice girl. She was a nice girl. She ever call you anymore and say, take me back? No, no. You don't want to be a fool fighter. I love you, buddy. It's been a pleasure.

It's been a real pleasure. I know you're busy and thank you very much. You're coming on. Any dates? Give me some dates. Let's promote some. What's the day? Okay, yeah.

Okay, so Wednesday, the 10th in Costa Mesa at the Wayfey and then Friday the 12th at Pappy and Harriet's out in the desert. Saturday the 13th at the Timbler in Bakersfield. Which is a great place. Yes. I'll be there like in December. And then Sunday at the Moroccan lounge here in beautiful Los Angeles, downtown. You're fucking beautiful.

I will be Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Charlotte, North Carolina. Nice. At the beautiful and the fucking tremendous comedy zone, you bad motherfuckers. I want to thank Chris. I want to thank the flying juba. Most importantly, I want to thank you guys. Do not forget, I will be at the Comedy Zone in Charlotte this weekend. Five great shows.

Saturday's closest selling out. And then the 9th of August, I will be at the Lincoln Theater in Washington, D.C. That's how we do. We're keeping the summer light. Ticket to cheap. $28 in Charlotte. Take a chance. Columbus did.

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