The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #748 - Brody Stevens Reloaded: Re-release of #634: Steven Brody Stevens

Episode Date: December 30, 2019

As we look towards 2020, we wanted to remember one of the great friends that The Church Family lost in 2019, Mr. Steven Brody Stevens. Brody and Joey met in Seattle when they were both doing open mic ...comedy, and were friends for more than 20 years. Brody is a favorite on the show, and this is a re-release of Brody's last visit to The Church. Happy New Year from Joey and Lee, we love you and cant wait for an even better year in 2020.  We love and miss you Brody! This podcast is brought to you by: CBD Lion - For all of your CBD needs, from shatter to gummies, go to www.CBDLion.com and use code CHURCH for 20% off.    Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout.   Hellotushy.com - Go to Hellotushy.com/church for 10% off of your order of portable devices that spray your butt with water.

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Starting point is 00:03:02 Mercury Waters today. End of the year wrap up show. Why fuck around with your people? If you're real, you're jumping up and down. You're getting ready to get your dicks up. You're making goals.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You're setting plans. The church of what's happening now, baby. You got one more day left in this fucking year. And then you got a little. new start in life. A new start 2020. Just think all the shit you're going to do.
Starting point is 00:03:50 The good shit. The good shit, not the bad shit. You're leaving it behind, baby. A decade is gone. It's a new decade of decade. Here we go. What? You're alive, motherfucker. It's Monday morning. There's one line from this jam.
Starting point is 00:04:17 This is maybe 384 But there's one line There's always fucking destroy the Murky waters It's time to drop that fucking quail-loon The extended version Just to make sure you're up You're stretching
Starting point is 00:04:56 And you're thankful God gave you another day To stick it up life's fucking ass You understand me? That's not the attitude You have in 2020 Choke yourself right now It's going to work out for you.
Starting point is 00:05:11 It's going to get harder, baby. Here we go. It doesn't matter what the line is. It's Monday morning. The church of what's happening now, it's myself and Lee. We're just doing a quick wrap-up show. Not to leave you out there fucking hanging. Everybody else is leaving town and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Listen, thank you very much for a good year. I don't know what type of year you had. I know you had ups and downs. I know you had losses and you had gains. But no matter. what, you're two feet around the fucking ground and you're still ready to go. 2020 is your year. Listen, they all can't be a year.
Starting point is 00:05:55 They all can't be your month and they all can't be your day. I pulled the hamstring. I almost ripped it. I was scared I had to cancel Miami and New York and Boston. It all worked out. I got back. I lost a cat. I made a promise to 12 years ago not through drugs.
Starting point is 00:06:11 You know, we all go through things. It's how you go through them. pass them, move on, and go on to the next level of your life. And that's what I try to do with the church. The church isn't for fucking rich people or for people who fucking think they're cool. This is for people who, you know, we're always to fuck it underdog.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And we love being the underdog. I love being the underdog. I fucking enjoy it. Because you know what? I always win when I'm a fucking underdog. And you're going to start taking the same philosophy. It's been a great year. You know, I didn't have to shoot any specials.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I didn't have to fucking do any contest or anything like that. The goals I wanted to achieve, I achieved, which is to be a better comic, to be healthy, to be a better father, to make this podcast a little better better husband and to learn to be a better friend. Tomorrow night's New Year's Eve, I don't know what the fuck you guys are thinking.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I know 30 years ago I was thinking about fucking doing whatever, but for you people who didn't know, didn't get high on New Year's Eve. I got high every night except New Year's Eve since 1984 when my friend's ear got bit off and I couldn't answer from him because I was too fucked up. 83. So I got high 360-something days of the year except New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Were you completely sober or just not as fun-down? Smoking some joints. I always wanted to pay attention on New Year's. You always want to pay attention on New Year's. Yeah, you're having a good time. they think you're drinking, but you got a fucking Coke with a fucking lime and it. They think you're drinking a Cuba Libre.
Starting point is 00:07:54 You're always watching. That's the way life is. You're always watching. Let the fucking morons lose control in public and not know what the fuck is going on than the next day. I lost my cell phone. Somebody robbed me. Somebody fucked me in the ass. Well, you're passed out.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That's what happens when you pass out in the TP. You know what I'm saying? Anyway. Yeah. Fuck. The reason why I do this wrap around podcast is just to let you know that it's not over, man. It's not over. It was
Starting point is 00:08:25 just a fucked up year. Shit happens. This time of the year doesn't make it fucking any worse because this puts pressure on you. But hey, push all that shit aside because you're alive. You've got a plan this year.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And you got the church. You got us. Worst case scenario. You don't have no friends. You got me and leave. You listen to us twice a week. We're there with you. You got a question. You hit me up on Messenger, on Facebook, on Twitter, and we're right there. This is not a podcast where we're stars and we're looking down on you.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We're better than you. We're in the same rut as you. I go along learning something new every day. Somebody told me something. I'm going to tell you guys something for the next year, and then we'll get the podcast started. A wise woman last week watched a one-man show. at the comedy store.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And afterwards, she said she enjoyed it. But she comes from a Buddhist background, which is always a good background because it makes you question a lot of things. And she asked me what I wanted. I told an array of things. She goes, I want you to write down, what do you want, what do you want,
Starting point is 00:09:38 what do you want seven times? And then write down the answer. And I did it. And I came up with some pretty fucking cool answers. so if you don't know what direction you're taking 2020 into listen man nobody needs for you to lose 200 pounds nobody needs for you to be 20,000 dollars richer nobody needs for you to fucking do anything
Starting point is 00:10:04 just be a little bit better than what you were in 2019 that's it that's all we ask you just be a little bit better if you fucking whatever you're going to do just a little bit better this year. That's it. Just be human, have a good time, and make sure that it's not... Listen, I know people who got money coming out of their assholes
Starting point is 00:10:29 and they always got a sourpuss on their face. The other night I... There's an app called, like, ABC Yahoo or some shit. It's for kids. My wife made my daughter write a letter to Santa, you know, the toys she wanted and shit. But I guess this, I'll tell you about this. Yeah, we talked about it on the last podcast.
Starting point is 00:10:51 This, this thing. And she wrote down that all she wanted to do was be happy. And it fucking blew my mind that a six-year-old can figure out the answer that took me fucking 40 years to realize. Because we all get confused. We think that girls are going to make us happy. That boat's going to make you happy. Having that car is going to make you happy.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Then you get it. And then what? That's a beautiful thing about life that. We never think about once we get that goal, then what? Now what the fuck are we going to do? Listen, with happiness, you can never lose. Just go to be happy. It's not about money.
Starting point is 00:11:30 It's not about bitches. It's not about real estate deals or who you fucked in the ass. Because when you're fucking laying in that casket or before you put in that casket, you're taking your last breath, that's not the shit you're going to be thinking about. You're going to be thinking about the good time. are your kids, your wife, your girlfriends, your friends. You know, be a better friend than 90 into 2020.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Be a better friend to yourself, you know. And that's it, man. This is a fucking simple, fucking life. Only we make it harder on ourselves with pressure and listen to people. Listen to yourself. At the end of the week, who pays your bills? You do.
Starting point is 00:12:13 The fuck you listen to that fucking jerk for four. made Lee listen to yourself you have natural fucking instincts and listen man this is the time of the year also with people's mind stray don't let your mind stray go out be around people this year uh the comedy community and you guys because you guys are part of it it's not like 40 years ago when freddie prince shot himself and you didn't know what the fuck pretty freddie prince was you know God rest of the soul. This year we lost a comic. He was a great friend.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I knew him since he was a fucking kid. And for a couple months, I was numb. For a couple months, I was angry. Now I'm wrapping 2019 up with him because I learned a lot from him. I learned that we have friends and we have to use them. Fuck you and you're fucking psychiatrist that you pay 164. You give me 200 a week.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I'll tell you whatever fuck you want to hear. You ever think about that? You ever think about that, you fucking idiot's. You're giving some fucking jerk-off guy, a lady, 180 a week, 280 a week, 220, 160, 140. And they just tell you to whatever they fuck it. And you, yeah, you feel good for a while. But you know what? What's the problem with buying your best friend a cup of coffee of your detties and talking to him
Starting point is 00:13:34 and letting him know him? Because of this shit, this is why Brody took his life in February. So this last podcast of the year, I wanted to bring. you hope and let you know that fucking you got this you got the world by the balls you got everything to live for you might think you're painted against a wall but joey i'm sleeping on a towel hey bitch i slept on a towel too in 1995 and joy it could have been linoleum you know i'm saying be happier what you got think about your friends and think about if you get into a bind that you also or you always have your friends this is the last time brodie steve
Starting point is 00:14:14 at this podcast and I want to end the year with this podcast. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Thank you. Yes, we are here feeling good, relaxed in the moment. I'm comfortable. I've been on this show. Good to see you guys. Lee and Joey.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Always great to bump into you. You know, I was thinking about who can I have on this time? I said, fucking Brody Stevens. I just saw him at the store. Let me get my fucking hour. Yeah, it was, yeah, I saw you at the store, show on my face, you, how you doing, call me. What time of your spots usually?
Starting point is 00:14:47 I get, normally, I'll do Friday or Saturday in the main room closing it out, which is like 1230, 1245, late. And then occasionally I'll get an earlier spot in the original room, like a 1045 or an 11. So Adam, the Booker, and they mix it up for me, but I get two to three spots a week. But I make the most of those, if I get those main room spots, and I go, up at the end, I get to spread my wings and do my own thing. And that's what I made my special based on doing those late night main room spots or I'm just kind of letting it go. So I still do those. I've kind of, you know, I've done it already. So I'm looking to do something more,
Starting point is 00:15:31 but getting some motivation for, you know, but they switch it up. But you got to hustle. Got to play the laugh factory. Got to go to the improv. Got to do these other shows. Got to show your face. Listen, the hustle never ends. Like I said, Sebastian Man of Scott, I've sold out four shows in Madison Square Garden. And I'm telling you, every day, all of the struggle, whatever level you're at comically, you know, stat, whatever. Right. Every day you've got to get up and face it and work and fucking, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:00 whatever it is that you do to get, you know, closer to your goal, whatever the fuck it is. You know, it was interesting. You were talking about the beginning of the show that you're done with the meds. You're done. Well, I have been. For how long now? four months.
Starting point is 00:16:14 How do you feel? Good. My mood is low. I feel like I have to build up my rewire my brain a little bit and my body. I think that it takes several months to get it out of your system and then you get used to being different. But essentially, I feel like my old self.
Starting point is 00:16:35 But that doesn't necessarily, like pre-comity, because I had been taking some kind of an antidepressant, something to take the edge off since Seattle. You know, and I only had, I had a year or two in New York when I was not really on anything. But being here in Los Angeles since 2000, I think the pressures maybe of the Internet made me, you know, all these, just so many more things happening. But initially I started taking it in Seattle because I'd get up there and do comedy and it would, I wouldn't feel right. I wouldn't, I felt like, oh, Brody, you're funny.
Starting point is 00:17:11 You're funny. playing baseball. Then when I went up there and did comedy, it was rough. So I did take something to help me have the edge taken off. However, I feel like 20 years now later to say you're only on a med because it helps your comedy is kind of like a weak excuse. Well, listen before, by the way, it's, I think it's, I called it just to stay safe. I always said it was November 15th, but it was more like eighth or the ninth when I gave up cocaine. This is 11 years. 11 years.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Coke free this week. Congratulations. 11 fucking years. Coke free. Something that I never, ever, ever thought I could live without. Like something that I thought, but if I got off it, I wouldn't be funny. That was my biggest fear of getting off the cocaine,
Starting point is 00:18:06 was that I would lose my sense of humor. Yeah. So when you said that before the show started, I assured you that that does not happen. You know, I don't know what your history was with meds, and I didn't want to put it out in the front street, but you put it out in the front street. And you know what, man, there's a lot of people who listen to their show
Starting point is 00:18:29 that are on meds, and maybe you inspire them to maybe go, you know what, I'm going to give my own self a chance. I'm going to try to live my life. I'm going to try to get a good control. good uh what do you call that around you a good support support system show on your face fucking important the support system around you is the most important thing you know i took kate quigley to the new york county festival and wednesday night i had all my friends meet at a chinese restaurant and we all ate and little by little kept she kept seeing my friends and she goes i understand
Starting point is 00:19:04 you now a lot more you know you've kept in touch with these people for 40 fucking years and they support you and, you know, instead of me going out and buying a BMW and getting an assistant, I call one of them every day and I hear them telling me how they have to call me back because they're delivering a package
Starting point is 00:19:24 for Federal Express and they tell me how they have to drive home at 8 but go back to work at 10 because a ship is coming in and they got to count stuff. So when I talk to them every day, it keeps me grounded. It says to me,
Starting point is 00:19:38 fuck they're 55 and I have a friend who delivers he's 56 my brother and he delivers fucking packages all day for Federal Express I would give up if you think I could deliver packages Federal Express today you better fucking shoot yourself if I had a clam upstairs all day and drop off boxes that's not going to happen I would quit in the middle of the day depends on what city any city I think I wouldn't have I don't have it in me to the little of the packages all day right now. There is no fucking way. Even if I was 50 pounds lighter,
Starting point is 00:20:13 100 pounds lighter, there is no way at 55 that I could be walking up and downstairs. I know there's plenty of men that are doing it. The Amazon guys, I'm sure. But when I speak to these guys that I grew up with, you know, what my one friend says he reps on the weekends
Starting point is 00:20:30 to make us an extra $200 a week for his family. So during baseball, ball season he goes up on stage you know he goes up on stage i'm sorry he fucking goes to a little league field at eight in the morning and he's dead at six at night on saturdays and sundays after he delivers fellow express all fucking week oh the same guy same guy to make 175 dollars for the day so his family can have an extra 1400 a month and i'm like biching about you're having a gig for 400 bucks like you I'm saying right when I talk to them it keeps my life in perspective it keeps me in check I don't want to be surrounded with people who look at life for like a value I want it always always you
Starting point is 00:21:18 know so that's who keeps me grounded that's my support group of those little fucking friends I call in the morning and just how I break your balls I break their balls I know when they're busy I know when they're busiest I call them then I call them again you know and these are friends back east or all over. All over. Just saying hello. Saying hello. Because it keeps you fucking ground.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I talked to Bob Lillinger today. Oh, nice. A listener from the podcast. You know, tomorrow I got to call Bobby Sharon. Every day is somebody, you know, and these people keep you humble. Is it also just socializing, keeping those? I love my friends in Jersey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I love him more every time I see him. I see him for 10 minutes. and it means the world to them, and it means the world to me. When I'm home, I go to breakfast at this one. I go to the seat, my mother's cemetery with that one. This one takes me to get Cuban food. This one takes me to Rudy's. This one drives me the chance.
Starting point is 00:22:21 So I have a different relationship with all of them. And I talk to them. I have a friend who, 55, went to MIT. Massachusetts Institute of Technology? No, no, no, no. The one in New York. Yeah, the New Jersey one, I think. The one where people are fucking geniuses.
Starting point is 00:22:37 You know what he does? He delivers bread. From midnight to 11 in the morning for 200 of halls of ship. He makes $1,000 bucks a week, and sometimes he works Saturday nights. All night delivering bread in the village. But he's got to work from 6 in the morning with all that traffic. He's got to get over to the Jersey side. And I wouldn't fucking want to do that at all at my age again.
Starting point is 00:23:02 So all these guys keep me grounded. So whatever keeps you grounded from the evil in your mind coming out or whatever the fuck happens to all of us, that's the most important thing. And I'm telling you this is a 55-year-old. Like, I'm an old fucking man. And I wish I knew this when I was 30. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:24 That you have to have three people, four people, and you breathe for them, and they breathe for you. No questions asked. Yeah, I have friends I need to, I mean, I'm from here. It's a little different. That's an excuse, though. Like, my best, not my best, one of my close friends, I still, like, lives up near Magic Mountain.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I should probably call him. Maybe tomorrow I'll call him. I'll call him. Take him on lunch. I just haven't done it. Make a deal with him that you're going to make sure and meet him every two weeks for lunch. I need to. At the same diner, to eat the same bowl of soup, whether it's a Jewish.
Starting point is 00:23:59 What if I have an audition? Who gives a fuck? That's the problem. That's the problem that we forget who we are because we have the audition. I had a commitment with you. Every Sunday at 11 o'clock, you have to make that commitment. Tomorrow, you know what pisses me off tomorrow? That today was my heavy day.
Starting point is 00:24:22 So today I lifted it and I went to kickboxing. Tomorrow I don't know how I'm going to wake up how my back is going to feel. If I miss Jiu-Jitsu, I feel guilty because I had a date with Jiu-Jitsu. When I get a fucking call for an audition, on a Tuesday at 1, I get pissed because I got to miss Jiu-Jitsu. When I got a call for a fucking meeting to meet somebody at 2 o'clock in Hollywood,
Starting point is 00:24:45 that means I can't go to Jiu-Jitsu. I can only do the conditioning, and I get fucking pissed. You know, I don't want nothing to interfere with whatever keeps me grounded. And I wish that I had known this when I first moved to L.A. And I did have a grounded. I had people like Ralphie Mae and yourself and Josh Wolf and whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:05 but nobody protected me from myself, which nobody could ever do. Nobody could protect you from being you. It takes you to protect yourself. I know, right? How hard is that? It's hard. It's hard. You know, that's why you need, you know, having family, having a wife or a husband or a dog or something or it's, you got to, you have to build, if you don't have that, you've got to build up your support system.
Starting point is 00:25:33 You got to, it just takes effort. It takes effort and you want it and be a good person, I think, but also getting out of the house. It's just with the internet these days, social media, it does affect people. How long have you lived alone, Brody? Probably now for, great question, Lee. Probably now for six years. Because like I lived alone for eight years, something like that. And even this weekend, I was like, some things happened that were annoyed me and I was
Starting point is 00:26:03 just getting into my head. And I talked to a few people, but I know most of the day I'm by myself. And even just as terrible as I sounded, I was just driving. I just was thinking about what's going on with the fires. And I was like, you know what? This is, that really doesn't matter. Like what I'm going through is in the grand scheme of things. I'm making it worse in my head.
Starting point is 00:26:26 So I think it's hard sometimes as a person who lives alone to, like, get out of their head. Well, yeah. I mean, that's why I, well, one, I go for walks, actually getting out, and then I do that periscope. I do talk. I mean, I'm not hearing their voices, but I am doing these check-ins. I am connecting with my community. There is something true to having your audience, your fans, they do mean something. So I do lean on them sometimes more than others. So, you know, having a roommate, I had a roommate back my old, my last apartment. And he was a really good roommate. They're hard to come by. But I think, yes, being social. And when you are living alone and you're, it could be, you got to like make it happen. But when you, if you, like I said, look, you called me today, Joey, I didn't know. You know, this was not like something that was booked.
Starting point is 00:27:21 It was energy. I feel like you got to be in it to win it. That's half the battle. So and not feeling sorry for yourself. But I think having a roommate. you think that would be better? No, because trust me, I haven't had a roommate since college, and that's... Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah, it's... But I have sacrificed financially for it. I could have saved a lot of money by getting a roommate, or even if I was spending the same amount of money getting a bigger place, but I live with someone for a year. And even he would say, when I did it, that it's like, I'm a very much introverted person. Yeah. And it takes a... I can't live with that many people.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Okay. I like my space. I like to go somewhere and have no one like to unplug. Like something that's been kind of a struggle for me that I have to work on is hanging out after comedy sets. I don't feel comfortable, really. Hanging out after? Yeah. After the show.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Yeah. And then what, talking to the other comedians, talking to the fans, audience members. I mean, the people, yeah, the people who come, it's a little bit different. It's quicker conversations. I can ask them about, I can talk and be like, hey, what do you do and this and that? And I have some friends that I do open mics with now. Right. But I don't, unless it's a few people, like two or three people, I could hang around for an hour.
Starting point is 00:28:46 If it's seven or eight people, I'll hang around for like 20 minutes. So you just want to get out of there? Yeah. I just want to go home. And you feel like that's not good? Yeah, I think I need to be a little bit more. I mean, I'm more social already, but I think it would be beneficial if I was, you know, hanging out
Starting point is 00:29:03 and get into know people on a more personal basis. I mean, that's why the comedy store is so popular. You can hang out. You hang out there, right? You come by there? A little bit, yeah, and I've been, I just have to force myself to stay and and do, I haven't, I've done it like twice in the past week. But one of the times I had a show, so it didn't really, I didn't really count it as just hanging out. But you set up, you go like on, you know, whatever night
Starting point is 00:29:26 once or, I have to start doing that more. I've been avoiding it. Yeah, because everybody's hanging out, They're all similar, same likes, and, you know, you're at the comedy store. Right. And then you're going to meet other comedians. You're going to meet fans. You're going to be around people, all that stuff. I mean, that's why I go.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I go. I know I have a place. I do the same thing. Yeah. I do the same thing. I force myself to go to the store. But let's back this conversation up because these are some interesting fucking things that are happening here.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Okay. Just now. Lee and I, when we first started doing the podcast, we started in my apartment. I had an extra bedroom. And then, and this is not, I'm not hating on Lee people. Lee knows what I'm about to tell you people. And then Lee got an apartment, and it was a two-bedroom, and we do the podcast out of his apartment.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And I love Lee. Lee has come home. Lee knows my family. Lee could come to my home whenever he wants. He knows that. Yeah. I know from doing the podcast that year in Lee's apartment, and how he acted
Starting point is 00:30:33 that I have never been back to one of Lee's apartment. Not because he's a bad person. He's always hosted me. He always had Diet Coke for me. His apartment was clean. Okay. I just know Lee. I know from me being who I am
Starting point is 00:30:51 that Lee, there's people who want you at their house. There's people who love, open up the door, go and come in, come in, sit down, Take your shoes off, put your feet on the table. There's people who are naturals at that. Yeah. There's people who are fucking naturals at that. They want to entertain.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I wish I could be one of those people. Okay? So just that relationship of me going to Lee's home in the mornings to do his podcast. And at one time there was a girl sleeping on his couch. Oh. I could see that the effect of when that girl moved out on Lee. And I tried to tell him, not because I'm a hater,
Starting point is 00:31:29 before Lee told me he was going to let his girlfriend move in, I go, Lee, from a standpoint of a fucking old man that reads people and is a loner. Remember, guys, I was a loner. You put me in my room by myself as a kid. I was an lonely child.
Starting point is 00:31:46 As long as I got a fucking record player and a TV, but something happened to me in 1987. At 1986, something interesting happened to me. And I'll admit this on the air right now. Now, and it's called something, but it affected me in a different way. It's called cabin fever.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Okay. The same thing that happened to the guy in the shining. Oh, yeah. Okay, so what happened is in Aspen, the spring of 86, my girlfriend, who became my wife, said, it's the off season. Everybody loses their job. So instead of sit, all the restaurants closed, everything closes. I mean, it goes from being, ah, heavy duty.
Starting point is 00:32:29 fucking people jumping off clips with bikinis on to April 15th. Nothing. Like nothing. Like from traffic to six cars. And the only thing that stays open is a supermarket. At least this is how it wasn't 86. All that would stay openly was a supermarket for limited hours. Because all there was left was the residents of that town.
Starting point is 00:32:52 People who worked at the ski. Instead of there being nine bars now, there was a hotel with one bar open. And that's the way it was Till mid-June Then the bicycle races came And the hot air balloons came And then it became People come back up
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah But this is six weeks family That I had to work Three hours a day Some days Just to open up the video store And I could look at you guys
Starting point is 00:33:19 In the face And tell you that There were days I wouldn't even open the door The dog This is no drugs This is me Smoking Puck and
Starting point is 00:33:27 Pop popping video after video in the movies. Video after video. Just watching movies. Yeah, pissing and shitting in between, eating something in between, making a shake. Yeah. I did that. You could do that back then.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I did that for six weeks. Well, it's like a film festival. And it had been really weird because before that, I lived in New York, and I had a hustle. And I was out of the house every day by 8 o'clock, stealing, selling drugs, stealing fucking tampons and selling them on the New York side
Starting point is 00:33:59 to bodegas up on the Washington Heights I was just the fucking you know and those six weeks affected me I started to twist a little bit I started to get bad thoughts
Starting point is 00:34:12 not suicide you know coming back and murdering my stepdad and just bullshit dumb stuff so from those six weeks I learned one thing from my personal mental health
Starting point is 00:34:25 it was always good for me. Get up, a cup of coffee, you know, go to your balcony and hit your joint twice. Yep. Get your head together. Yep. Right out of plan for your day, what you want to accomplish for the day,
Starting point is 00:34:44 like in written form in a paragraph. So I have feel great. I got eight hours to sleep, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And take a shower and get out of the house, even if you have nowhere to go. and make your bed actually. It's so healthy for you.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But if you look at the questionnaire for depression, it starts with that being alone, and not getting your hand forced. I'm not crying. You get in your hand forced to do something. A lot of people don't like their hand forced. When you say hand forced, if you get a roommate, you can't do what you usually do,
Starting point is 00:35:23 act like a fucking gavone and just sit on the couch all day and watch videos. Okay. Now you have a roommate. Lee made a point that he's been living alone. But if he had a roommate, maybe he'd get out of the house more. I believe in getting out of the fucking house. I think the sun has amazing powers. I think the air has amazing power.
Starting point is 00:35:43 You know, some days I'm feeling a whole hum. And I know exactly what it is. I haven't jumped in the shower. It's proven walking. is beneficial for you, for your brain, for your body, for everything. So there's no, the only thing somebody would say about walking, you should be doing more. You should be, then turn it into a hike. The bottom line is walking helps anybody.
Starting point is 00:36:08 If it's helping you, and especially as a performer, yeah, mental, just mentally, I go out and I walk and a lot of the creative ideas come from when people walk. I do my periscopes on walking. I check in with people. And then luckily we're here in Southern California, and we have that sunlight. So I do, you know, at least I'm doing that. I always say like I'm not a couch potato. I'm checking in.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Even if I'm doing another periscope and I'm playing drums, I'm sitting on a Swiss ball. I'm exercising. So I'm trying to at least, you know, show people like being active. And if I don't do a periscope or, you know, I don't do an Instagram video, people are going to go, hey, Brody, what's up? So they kind of, it's still doesn't be having an actual. physical person with you. It's a little bit of an AI thing when you when you have relationships with your audience members that you actually don't even hear their voices. So you do need that
Starting point is 00:37:04 human interaction. And part of it is having guests on a podcast. I've been to I got to the point where I wasn't even booking guests on podcasts. There's just me and you know, the mic and the camera. It's like I need to be around people. So I've made a concerted effort. I think the last couple months or so. It was like, be social, put the effort out and get out of your head. Just so. And I see results. I got to at least try. I mean, listen, you. And I like it. You have to be in your head to be self-conscious, but I don't want you to be the self-conscious that you destroy yourself. From 79 to 85, walking was my psychiatrist, walking with and without an iPad on, whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:51 What did you call those? A walk man. Walk man. Disc man. Walk man. I walked miles and that was my psychiatry. Mm-hmm. I would just walk.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Walk, walk, walk. Get your steps in. Walk. Walk. I didn't do it for health reasons. It was the psychiatry. I had to break down what had just happened in my life and how I was going to make my future better. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:13 And it would be smoking a joint and walking from Clipside Park to fucking Englewood and back. Six months. or something, a retardation, just wasting time. I was pre, what's that called? Procrastinating. Yeah, that's what I do. I was also breaking it down.
Starting point is 00:38:31 What had just happened, and I was breaking down my next attack. And I finally had the balls, and it took me, and I launched an 85. That was my attack, but that was a year of walking. So you were walking before you were doing stand-up? Stand-up wasn't even in my future. Okay. Prison was in my future at that time. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And I was a walker, walking away. Like if I lived here, I would walk towards fucking, you know, Sunland every day, you know, on a slant with a nightpire. I would force myself to walk by myself. No cell phone in your pocket, no calls. And break down what had just happened in my life. The death of my mother, how I was going to survive, was I going to go to vocational school,
Starting point is 00:39:16 was I going to go to college, was I going to get my GED? How was I going to, you know, it was just a constant walking was my psychiatrist. You know, today I got up this morning early. There was no school today. So me and my wife had a shared duties. So I got up this morning, hung out with her early, watched television, and then at nine I went and went to my movie tire little conditioning class. But I remember before I walked in, I got to the quarter of nine.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I just stood there on my car for four minutes and I just soaked in the sun. Mm-hmm. And naturally, I said to myself, just being outside is helping me. Mm-hmm. You know, I always tell people that you can take private lessons or you can be in a class setting. And I'd much rather be in a class setting. So I have relationships with different people in that class. Because I'm the type of guy that I can get up at 8, call them a REET, and sit there riding,
Starting point is 00:40:17 to one and then go home go to your office get on social media for an hour return emails and then talk to my wife talk to my kid and i could stay home and i could do that for three or four nights in a row and that sucks dick that makes me go crazy so the reason why calling for spots at the comedy store is to force me take it off my ass and go down there because you can't cancel No. So you have to go down there. When I'm driving back from the comedy store, I feel so satisfied at the end of the day. But I accomplished my mission for the day.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Even if you have a bad set? Even if I have a bad set. It's not about a bad set for a guy like me. It's about the same two things you guys are talking about. Human contact. Yeah. I mean, that's what then you need it. We're human beings.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I'm talking. about as soon as you wake up, I want you to give yourself an hour for you. I want you to take that hour. I always think when I get up in the morning, I thank the Lord that he gave me another day, and I thank the Lord that I didn't grow up. I'm not growing up in a house where at 6.30 in the morning, a bomb gets dropped in your house. Lees getting shaved. I got to wait for him.
Starting point is 00:41:41 We can't use the bathroom because Brody took a shit. It smells like fucking 10 people died there. Yeah, yeah. The washing machine broke so the fucking your shirt's not ready. Now you got to iron it by hand. Everybody's getting up in a bad mood. And now you've got to get on a train of bad mood. And everybody late to work, I fucking hated that shit.
Starting point is 00:41:59 We don't want that. That shit did not fly in my world. I know I needed to get up. I need a little break in the morning. I put music on. I get coffee. I sit there with a notebook that's wide open. I put Tuesday, November 13th on it.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And I say it's a beautiful. beautiful day to be alive and from there I just let and I don't stop to the end of the page. So you journal. I journal in the morning to get the waste out. Today I'm going to do this, this, this, and this. I fucking don't want to do it because the 405 is going to have traffic on it. I mean, I talk myself out of everything I could talk myself out of. So it's all over.
Starting point is 00:42:36 After that page, my day has decided. You know what? I was going to do what's his name's podcast. I'm not driving to Marina Del Rey. I'm texting him at 9 o'clock and telling him, you're in no danger. You know, that's when I decide that how I feel. If I wake up on my back hurts and I can't move,
Starting point is 00:42:53 then I'm not going to go to Jiu-Too at 12. Let's make alternate plans. Who's got a podcast? You got a podcast yet. When do you do it? Wednesdays, too. Well, let's do it tomorrow or 12. That's how I work because I don't want to skip.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I don't know when I'm going to be available. But it's about also, you know, scheduling stuff. Scheduling stuff and always keeping yourself busy. This business, what we do, let me tell you. something and I'm not gonna do this to none of you people anymore because I know sometimes when comedians can bond here fucking in today's world it gets crazy if you get caught up in today's world between the internet oh yeah the media oh yeah and what's going on you are gonna go crazy yep I'm not gonna mention no names because
Starting point is 00:43:39 I'm not here to embarrass nobody but I think we have discussed that we've seen a couple people lose their minds within the last two or three years. Oh, yeah. On the internet. On the internet, in public we've seen, we've heard of people losing their minds. There's too much information
Starting point is 00:43:57 getting poured into the human mind right now. Yep. So right now you have to learn how to control that too. You have to learn how to control that too and decide on what level, how much of this are you going to take in? You know what? I'm listening to 11 podcasts a week, that's 33 hours.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I got to chop it down to five. You do? You know what? I'm watching too much fucking football. I got to chop it down on with just Sundays. No more Thursday game. I'm going to take a shift to fucking chilies as I cook. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:44:34 Like I'm going to take an extra shift. You have to control what gets put into your mind right now. Because of what's going on in the world, what ABC News is feeding you and when the Internet is feeding you it really, really is overwhelming for the mind Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:44:53 Well, I don't look at the you know The ABC News really I'll glance at those guys But I listened to I listen to KFI local radio Here in L.A but I go on the internet for my news And it's It's a battle out there to be honest with you How it is and I wake up every more
Starting point is 00:45:13 morning and a lot of times, to be honest, I'm up in the morning. I'm looking at that internet. I'm looking at that Twitter and I'm trying to find things and I do my sets at the comedy store. I come home. I go straight to Twitter and I'm not on there like getting in fights of people. I'm just researching stuff. I'm researching stuff. And I feel like I'm ahead of the game on what's happening. And I feel like the last few years with the politics the way they are, It has kind of taken, taken, pulled me into an area, at least my energy. Not necessarily, I'm not getting into fights on the internet. I'm not that guy.
Starting point is 00:45:52 But it does get your blood boiling a little bit, but I do avoid it. But I also, I'm digging in. I want, honestly, I want everybody to be happy. I want to do whatever it takes to get it back to where we're happy and working together. And that's what I'm pulled in there too. And it takes your time. And I feel like I'm not a part of that mob mentality. I'm a little different.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I'm blue collar. I'm from the valley. It grew up, you know, and it bothers me. I don't like seeing comedian friends of mine angry on Twitter. So I do not, I try not to block it and not see it. But it's a bummer for me. And so that can get to you. I feel it's a tough time to be a human being right now.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I feel mentally if you get sucked in it's a tough time to be a human being right now you have to know your yin and your yang and your borders you know
Starting point is 00:46:56 you have to make time for yourself you have to take care of yourself yes you have to you know you're talking to a guy that lived in his head for years and it got me nowhere. It got me nowhere
Starting point is 00:47:14 until I expressed what was in my head. That's right. I started getting places, you know. We overthink things and in the process of thinking, we think ourselves out of the game. Right. There's nothing to think about.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You get the idea, you got a piece of paper, you write it out, and you go to work. So you weren't journaling during the years you were in your head? Not even thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:47:47 There was no journaling. There was nothing. There was no journaling in my life until 1994. Me too. My too. My comedy stuff. That's what I started. And then I went to Seattle,
Starting point is 00:48:03 and there was a skinny woman. There was a comic that wasn't that funny, older married. And one day she turned me on to a, book called The Writers Way or something. And she told me I could borrow it for a few days and I read it. And then there, already I was doing it. In there, it recommended, excuse me, that when you wake up in the morning, you should get
Starting point is 00:48:28 a fresh piece of paper and express your thoughts for the day. And I was like, I'm on to something. If they're telling you this, not this time, this was the hot book, you know, the book, Right. The writer's way or the right way. Was it Jean Perret? No, no, no. It wasn't comedy writing.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Okay. Writing and self-help. Yeah, journaling. I learned that in college at Arizona State. I never knew about journaling, though. Comedy. And I remember when I used to get coked up, I would journal at night. You know, like telling myself, this is the last time I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I have to stop this life. Even though I had a good set tonight, I'm making good moves in my life. Why am I still writing, doing Coke? I think journaling is the best thing in the world for you. I think journaling is the best psychiatry. I think every Friday, every Saturday morning I wake up, and I read what I read for the week. I read what I wrote from Monday on.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Number one, everything that I write in that journal in the mornings gets done. Plus, I have another notebook. that has my schedule. Plus, I have a calendar that has my schedule, and, you know, I have three things to know my schedule. One is my day, step by step. 9 o'clock, 11 o'clock, 12.30, 4 o'clock, 5.30, 8 o'clock podcast, 10 o'clock, spot at the comedy store.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And then there's the journal part of it. Right. Where it's just a yellow notebook, and every day I wake up, and I write backwards to front. So I start back and I write to the front. I don't start in the front. I start in the back. And I write through the front.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Just superstitious. I don't want to write like everybody else. I'm starting the back and I write to the front. And it opens up with Monday, November 13th. First line is always it's a beautiful day to be alive. That's the first thought that's just coming to your head. I don't give a fuck if you're in a ditch and there's a rock on top of you. As long as you're breathing, if you say that to yourself, your day is going to be completely fucking
Starting point is 00:50:39 different. It's been proven. It's been proven. People who pray, the limits go up. You're not supposed to pray? They say, though. Thoughts and prayers. You're not supposed to pray, but saying that to yourself, it's a beautiful day to be alive while you're pissing. Why you're pissing? All that piss is coming out of you and your knee hurts, and your neck is stiff from eating pussy,
Starting point is 00:51:05 and that you've got a blister under your tongue from eating pussy and ass. can happen and the chick's got committee yet it still doesn't matter why you're peeing if you say to yourself it's a beautiful day to be alive whatever shit comes into your mind on top of that it's not gonna matter i got to go to court today i'm broke i'm hungry i don't have money to pay the rent if you say that to yourself first it's a beautiful day every journal of mine starts like that right thursday november 16th it's a fucking beautiful fucking day to be alive Today, I got to do this, I got to do this, I got to go see this fucking scumbag. I got to go deal with this fucking piece of shit and whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I got to pick the baby up at four. But hey, you know what? 20 years ago, I was fucking trying to stab somebody. Look where I am today. At least I'm living. I'm breathing. I'm healthy. I got my, you know, it's just that part of it.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Yeah. Well, that's why I like working on a TV show every day or working maybe with the baseball team. You bring that energy in. Yes, we're here. Push. People like that. They like that energy bringing it, lifting people up, positive self-talk. You have to do it because it does work.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I know it sounds silly, but it does work to put that, you're putting that energy out. It really is an energy of you're putting it out. And it does, I'm not saying it comes back to you, but you do put it out. And people like being around it. That's the thing. People like being around that. that's, you know, it's a motive, it's like a coach, it's motivational, upbeat, it can be done. And you can kind of train yourself, I would think, at least to believe that it works.
Starting point is 00:52:47 You know, it's not easy to do, but if you believe it, you know what's there. And that's what I, and I learned that from, I learned at Arizona State about the power of the mind being positive and visualizing, because I saw it affect my pitching. I saw it affect my schoolwork. I saw it affect my confidence. I got everything out of baseball at Arizona State that I wanted. And I apply those rules today, like at the comedy store. Playing Division I won sports was a big thing. And I happen to go to Arizona State where we have a lot of players in the major leagues.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And we had access to professional baseball coaches there. And that's where I learned the visualization. And then I see it around when I hung out with the baseball teams, the Yankees, the Dodgers, and the Cubs. And there's something to it. So I'm not trying to figure it out still, but I know it's something there. And I got to apply it to myself a lot of the time. You know, it's easy to say.
Starting point is 00:53:43 But, and, you know, that's why I wouldn't mind being around in baseball. CNN did a thing that bothered the fuck out of me. It bothered the fuck out of me because I felt that it gave an excuse. it had a docu-series called The Dark Side of Comedy The Dark Side of Comedy? Yeah, they had different comics, and they discussed Robin Williams and the suicides and the drugs and the Knessans and all this shit. And I agree with a lot of part of it,
Starting point is 00:54:17 but I recently dealt with some shit. I don't know what it was. I don't know what it was. It started like in March, and it went on until maybe the second week of July after I shot the Netflix special. It wasn't pressure. It was just this doubt,
Starting point is 00:54:37 this form of depression that came over me. You know, it affected my stomach. And it was just really weird that I found out from reading the old journals about a month ago, three weeks ago. I go, let me go back and see what I was writing in March. Yeah. And one thing about depression is
Starting point is 00:55:00 depression is a motherfucker. if you let him in. Yeah. Okay. So how do you let depression in from getting into your mind and not getting sunlight and not having contact? And I know all about it because, like, I'm telling you guys, I fucking hate driving. I fucking hate it. But those weeks that I'm in town all week, I thought I have to go on the road, sometimes I schedule something for Thursday.
Starting point is 00:55:33 that's out of my character and the whole week I dread it but while I'm driving in the 4-05 in bump of the bump of traffic I go thank God I got out of the valley like thank God like thank fucking God
Starting point is 00:55:48 like enough is enough that's the other reason why I call him for spots at the store makes me get out of the valley yeah we go over the hill every night every night you know I know I can't do it every night but guys I suffer from the same thing you guys suffer from.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I learned about it 20 years ago. Because I could, 30 years ago, I could stay in, they could put me on a fucking island. That's my dream, guys. That's my dream. That my daughter grows up. My wife tells me she's going to go and live in fucking New York, and I fucking go, you know what?
Starting point is 00:56:27 There's an island for 60 G's. Fucking the Navy dropped bombs there 20 years ago, and there's fucking nuclear. reactive. I've got a little chip of the island, get some chicken cul-ets. You can mash. I'm the type of guy that I could be alone with that. With music, marijuana, I swear to God. Drums. I like drums. Waits. A punching bag. TV, an internet.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Internet. Will you podcast and parents go? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, done. Lock myself in. Oh. I could be one of those guys that I could stay in. I could eat the same shit every day. I could either mortadell or salami and American cheese sandwich every day. Protein shakes. I can live on one every day. I'm a fucking creature habit. So I'm the time.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I scare myself with that shit. I scare myself with that shit. That's why I forced myself to get the fuck out. I forced, I went through that cocaine morning shit where you don't want to leave the house because the cops are watching you and all that. No, no, no, no, no, no. ever since I stopped out I forced myself out because even I always knew that that was the dark side of comedy
Starting point is 00:57:38 the dark side of comedy is getting into your mind but it's not the dark side of comedy it's a dark side of life yeah it's a dark side of life it's not the dark side of comedy if you let depression in so as soon as you start feeling that shit or that stuff that that gets you all wound up boom that's it you're out of it But go smoke a joint. Go for a walk. Go for a walk. Go book a gig. Go talk to somebody.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I'm not talking about somebody that you pay. I'm talking about go talk to someone. A friend. A friend. Somebody at a Starbucks who's there every day who sees you. Just forcing yourself. You know, I do a stupid joke about the universe. It's very true.
Starting point is 00:58:24 You get back what you put in. Yes. You know, you're lonely. go to a kickboxing class. There's eight people in there. You're going to jive with one of those people. That one hour of you talking to those other people that gets you out of your head.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Your phone's in the car. Your mother's fine. The only person you got to worry about is your mother and your father. Everything else is bullshit. Warner brothers ain't going to call you while you're in kickboxing class. Nobody's going to call you while you're in kickboxing class.
Starting point is 00:58:55 There's times I go to like a jih Tijuana. I'm like, oh, when I get in the car, there'll be eight messages. You ain't got nothing. Nobody called you. Nobody's going to call you. But just the thought of getting away from the phone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Just that other thing. Just forcing you away from that phone. One hour. It's in the car. And if it melts, let it fucking melt. I got insurance. What am I going to do? But just getting away from...
Starting point is 00:59:17 That's all this is lately. We have too much fucking information. Why do you think comedy's so big right now? Why do you think I'm telling you to do a show in the daytime? because man I wouldn't fucking say this if I didn't believe in it five years ago I would not believe this statement okay people need comedy they do we're we're we're telling the truth people love it that that's they love it that's why we especially we're we're on the front lines at the comedy store we're here in Hollywood and I feel like if you have telescopes you're fucking just watching you interact with the don't Korean. Let's say you did, let's say you went to the same cold water and riverside. Next to the dry cleaners, there's a Krav Magadju place. There's a Chinese place. Don it in there. There's a donut in there on the corner. I know what. There's a Mexican joint there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:18 There's a frozen ice. Shaved ice. Shaved ice. Those people are real Korean in there. I went in there. When they got a bagel, I asked them for like a fuck and the guy tried to sell me like that. that Korean is ruthless. He's like, put on them pumpkin bagel. Listen, you don't put logs on pumpkin bagel. I'm from New York.
Starting point is 01:00:35 You know what I'm saying? He don't give a fuck. I have no onion, but I have blueberry. Put it on some blueberry, and it's good for you. Oh, good for you. You go in there and torture that dude
Starting point is 01:00:46 every day on camera for three minutes. That's a series. For four minutes a day, people will pay a dollar to see you go into that donut place and ask that motherfucker. You got any cinnamon donuts? You don't tell you.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I tell you yesterday, I got most of them in the house. And you just run from there. But I know. Every day you open up and say. Please don't ask that guy every day for like a... I would. If I knew that that China guy would get pissed off, I'd walk in there every day knowing that he didn't have a donut.
Starting point is 01:01:15 And then I start sending people in this. Like, that's the best. So you torture people to keep your brain sharp? Like, you torture people just to like... entertain like you're like just doing it to like it's worth of my socializing it's worth a few patrons oh my god you have no idea how much fun you can have on the internet
Starting point is 01:01:33 today if I had the time and the energy I just go into yum yum every day the yum yum minute just go in there and torture them how many calories in the donut and them like looking at you like you know they don't know the language you're going every day and you ask a different calorie and you never get a donut but that's the thing
Starting point is 01:01:51 now today you have any gluten-free donuts gluten. You have almost like no reason to be, not saying no reason to be depressed, but there's so many outlets before. Like, if you were staying home, you were sick, what, you had like 10 channels on TV and that's it? Now you've got so many, yes, there's a lot of drawbacks to the internet and social media and all that, but it is, there are a lot of positives associated with it.
Starting point is 01:02:14 He's just got to be able to maintain it. Also know that it can be used for some good. Well, I mean, times have changed. I don't know, but you guys are in hotels every week. pretty much. Whenever I go to a hotel, I used to love I would have TV on, I'd watch SportsCenter, this and that. I don't, I'll be in a hotel room for a weekend and not turn it on.
Starting point is 01:02:34 See, I watch TV. I force myself to leave a hotel room every two hours. Smoke a joint. That's why I bring extra weed. I smoke a joint. I get the gym. I force myself to leave the room every two hours. And I forced myself to leave the hotel room for a patch.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I forced myself on Saturday to go to lunch. with somebody. You know, somebody from the club, the club owner. I do little things, but just enough to scratch that edge. I can't go to a baseball game for three innings, seven innings. You know, I do enough just to scratch that edge. So when you go to town, you'll schedule appointments with people to keep that human contact going. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I'll schedule a Muay Thai class. We know what the jersey is. We got to take a private jih Tijuana class. in Jersey on Friday you know I went to the gym on Saturday I forced my I have to force myself because if not I will sit in front of that iPad and I will watch sick I you know what I love about the road what do you love know why I go on the road to watch your iPad no it's not to make money I love to meet different people make people laugh I go on the road for Friday night that's your night that's my night to go do a great show make them laugh meet people memories put out good
Starting point is 01:04:01 energy and no i don't have to do shit on saturday morning you like that that means i could go back and anything goes on friday nights okay that means that if you come up to me and give me two vikins i might go back to the room and pop one put out a pot of coffee get a notebook out and i'll watch I swear to God, I got no reason to line another is. I'll watch five episodes of Sons of Hanuky. Jesus. Lee, how much do I yell at you for watching TV? A lot, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:36 On Friday nights when I'm on the road. Yeah. That's me. That's my gift for leaving my family. I get a table. I put my feet up with a pillow to elevate above my heart because I've just been on stage for two hours. Yep.
Starting point is 01:04:49 And I just sit there. I get to bring a vapor pen. I bring nicotine gum. Mm-hmm. Sometimes I bring a bag of Doritos. up to my room and sometimes I eat it sometimes I leave it for the maid
Starting point is 01:05:02 I get coffee going coffee after the show in my room it's my night to do whatever the fuck I want on Friday night after a show I can't wait to get back to the hotel sometimes somebody will give me a pill or something and I'll hold it for when I go on the road
Starting point is 01:05:22 to drop it that night while I'm in a hotel on Friday night like if you give me two Vikings I'll hold on to them and I know that when I go to Portland Friday night after the show I'll pop two Vikings and go home and I'll scratch and I'm watch Narcos and I watch four episodes of Narcos and not blink and I could do that that that to me is fun because I know I'm gonna get up at 8 I'm still gonna go for breakfast and I'm gonna go back to my room and sleep another three hours I'm still gonna get up early
Starting point is 01:05:50 and I'm still gonna go to breakfast I still force myself up to breakfast walk downstairs it sucks but I make myself do it just to even talk to the waitress bump in a day that was a good show last night thank you then you go back to your room sleep for three hours get up I'll watch a narcos right I'm out come back that that two more I was writing one and a half hours writing out out go roll a joint smoke a half a joint hide it behind the building come back that's what I do I don't walk into the hotel with that joint man And the whole room smells
Starting point is 01:06:30 I get the thing and I put a rock on top of it And I come back two hours later And I get to take the rock off it And I smoke the other half And how do you stay disciplined on all of this Is this just what makes you happy Makes the shows better? You feel better This is what makes the show better
Starting point is 01:06:46 This is what makes me better This is we are Creatures of whatever You know we and we have to force ourselves. And I didn't know this. You have to force yourself sometimes to
Starting point is 01:07:04 out of your comfort zone. Comfort zone is a big fucking word, man. That's an ugly fucking word. And once you fill yourself in that comfort zone, get in the fucking call. Get out of the comfort zone. Yeah, get out. It was pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Lead to the show this week. And it was, you know, I fell in love with Brody I don't know 19 years ago at a barring Gig Harbor I'll never forget and I'll never forget
Starting point is 01:07:36 what he said how he said it in the pause that he said it that's when I knew Brody was real you know he was on stage and I've told this he's yelling and screaming and the middle of it
Starting point is 01:07:48 he turned around and there was a bunch of photographs on the wall he's up on stage yelling and screaming and he just stopped and he goes how come there's no Jews up on the wall Because next time I come here, there better be Jews on the wall. I'll never come to Gig Harbor again.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I'm in the back with Josh Wolf. He's a kid. I'm howling. But I fell in love with you. You know, Gig Harbor. That gig was a gig of death. Yep, across Arizona's bridge from Tacoma. It wasn't no fucking evening at the pops, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:08:17 No. So the other night, Lee goes down to Eddie Bravo's 15th reunion. They throw this poor bastard on stage while the UFC's on. he's up there and the Korean zombie gets knocked out and poor Lee's up there with his aim material. In front of the screen. Thinking he's on Conan. Today somebody came up to me and like,
Starting point is 01:08:36 by the way, we were at the 10th Planet Party. We feel so bad for Lee. He went up to, I swear to God. I swear to God, they were like. Tough spot. Who the fuck did that to him? I survived. I did my stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:49 But it's weird. He called his friend Eric, gay Eric, my buddy Eric Rocher. And Eric bought him a beer because he was so depressed. He, you know, he felt it. And I explained to him last night. I go, I've been doing comedy 27 years. I opened for Roegan, I opened for Dice.
Starting point is 01:09:07 I did all these gigs. And I'm going to tell you something. Half of your career is those rooms. You know, where you get there in the Seattle Mariners are in the playoffs, and it's the seventh inning. Coming to the state. Those tough bar gigs. And you hear like, boom.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Boo, we want to watch the game, put the game on. Well, they got to do comedy, and also the owner gets into an argument. They do comedy here. We don't give a fuck about comedy. All right. Put the game on, but take the volume off. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Oh, my God, yeah, that's pretty much what happened. Yeah, that's it, you know. And you're up there on state, dying a slow death, thinking about career choices. You just went on a zip recruiter. You looked, you know, it's fucking harm. But then you do a guest spot at the underground. In Seattle.
Starting point is 01:09:56 You kill them, and that makes all that go away. Because your strength isn't from going on stage in the Seattle Underground. Your strength is from going on stage at those places. The hell gigs. Where they're not dead to see you. Yeah, where they're not there to see you. Yeah, the bar gigs. I'm here to get a grandma blowing.
Starting point is 01:10:12 The gig harbors sucked. And a chubby Jew wants to go on stage and do come. Oh, I got this chick by the ear. Yeah. I got this chick by the ear. And some fucking Jew and a fucking fat Cuban are going to go up on stage and try to be funny. People hate that shit, especially when it's unexpected. It's weird, because I did an unexpected one earlier that week, and it went fine.
Starting point is 01:10:33 It went pretty well. But then I did a show on Thursday at a burger place, but it went okay. But I was talking to Jerry Rocher and the guy who runs the show, Justin, and he was saying. Oberger. Yeah, yeah. That's a good room. It was fun. I've done it twice.
Starting point is 01:10:49 But they were saying that they did a show with someone who didn't get boot off stage, got talked offstage and that's pretty much I got I had a section of the crowd listening but what they were saying was it's not that they didn't like them and so they were just indifferent they were just like the people the crowd was just talking amongst themselves so loud that the comic got off stage well in those rooms is where you learn presence yep you learn how to fake the funk you learn how to it's a weird thing to describe you have to learn how to overtake them without overtake them because if not,
Starting point is 01:11:29 you've got a bottle thrown at your fucking head. That's the reality. Yeah. You know, I've seen it and I've heard about it. You know, I was at a bar one night where they were flipping bottle caps at the conference.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Jesus. Like, you know, and they got like a red light on them and you can see the bottle caps whizzing and you can see the comics like ducking from time to time. That still happens? No, I don't, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:52 I haven't heard about it. Yeah. But there's got to be fucking country bar somewhere or some fucking crazy bar somewhere that they're still you know throwing things of people you know when we used to do Moscow Idaho mm-hmm they would send you 25 shots oh yeah tequila with with Tabasco sauce and you had to do them oh my god they booed you off the stage holy shit and you had a half hour and the trick was to kill the feature and to just make
Starting point is 01:12:27 the headline and go into fucking convulsions. That's what they wanted to do. That's what they wanted to do. They didn't care about the comedy. The first time you did a shot of tequila, you weren't on stage five minutes, and they were giving you a, what was it called, a prairie fart or a prairie dog?
Starting point is 01:12:44 Oh my God. They would give you, see what it's called. Tequila and Tabasco. Bleet. Bellingham. No, no, no, no. Moscow, Idaho. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Close to Idaho State. Yeah, Washington. Highdoh State University. Yeah, the Vandals. Because that's the college that Drew Bledsoe went there. Prairie Fire. Prairie fire. Let me tell you something, Lee.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Think about going on stage, okay? Oh, my God. You're opening up for I'm a magician. Theo Vaughn at this hotel, and it's all college students. 200 college students, and you go up on stage
Starting point is 01:13:19 and five minutes into your act, the waitress comes up to you with a shot. You can't. I'm not drinking the kilo. As soon as you turn down that shot, it's going to be the 25, and you can't get off because you won't get paid.
Starting point is 01:13:38 You can't get up because you won't get paid. So they're going to tie. The club owner is going to say you, you only did 21. I've got to call the Booker and see what to do. So now you look like a fucking jerk off. So you have to either drink that shot and take what comes with it, They're not going to pay that.
Starting point is 01:13:57 And your material is not worthy of anything. Just take the shots and talk about getting drunk with them. That's what your 30 minutes is going to be about. Wow. That's what these road gigs are like. I did that Moscow Idaho ten fucking times. And after the third time I got it, sorry, Charlie. It's not going to be any different.
Starting point is 01:14:16 First two times I just bombed, I drank them. The third time I puked in the sink. I never forget that. I puked in the sink. And then every time after I just, just brought cocaine with me and I didn't get sick anymore. The one time I had the bed spins. Yeah, I don't want that.
Starting point is 01:14:33 It's fucking bad. And there were 10, the eight ball in, the Missoula, Montana was like that. There was 20 bars that dog, as soon as you went on stage, give him a shot of whiskey. Give him another shot of whiskey. And you better drink them. God forbid you had to drive to another gig that night.
Starting point is 01:14:52 There's no, there's no drink. You don't even think about it. It's over. You're sleeping in a car. and you're gonna fucking drive 90 the whole morning well I was thinking about this when you when you told me that Brody was coming in I was like you Joey and Brody are probably two of the most Comfortable people on stay like I feel like you feel comfortable on stage can be yeah and Like it blows my mind that you brodie will go on at the in the main room and do like the drumming
Starting point is 01:15:18 Like it's I just did the main room for my first time ever and I got there like an hour early right and was Petrified Like how? Have you always been that comfortable or did it take years to get that sort of like that's a level of comfort that most people don't have? It took a long time. But, you know, once I went for it, once you like take that milk and you poured into that cereal, you like got to, you go for it. I got to be honest. You had it the night I met you.
Starting point is 01:15:49 The night that you did that. You had that already. So you already had that. I don't give a fuck. I'm shitting my pants but I don't give a fuck attitude I could tell you were shitting your pants but you were taking chances
Starting point is 01:16:04 we were young comics in 95 I had been doing comedy for four years on paper but two years come on motherfucker you want to do this about two and a half years come on motherfucker and then they featured me for Laurie Kilmartin
Starting point is 01:16:23 and I didn't go back to bold I was like, I found a home. I was thinking about when I first found my real niche. Like I was just going up there and trying to tell jokes and finding yourself. And then one Monday, I got back with the stripper. She invited me to a house. We had tremendous sex. I fucked her in the ass, came in the mouth, all the fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Nice. We went grocery shopping. I had $175 to my name. groceries were 140 and she looked at me and I paid for $140 worth of groceries. I had $35. We went back to a house. She made me turkey burgers with mushrooms and onions and with something on the side of salad. It was 6.30.
Starting point is 01:17:12 My clothes were there. I was in a stay. We were back together. And she started talking about some guys. She had fucked. And we got into an argument. And I'll never forget that. I said, can I at least get half the money from the grocery?
Starting point is 01:17:25 so she goes fuck you last time i paid for groceries so here i am at the underground with my luggage behind the counter everything i owned 35 dollars in my pocket nowhere to sleep and i went up down a monday night and i said two or three jokes lee and i just went into this for years i had that tape i gave it to jo rogan it was one of the first times that joe diaz came out. And he came out and I went right back in. Like he got scared. When I saw it on tape, it petrified me.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I went up there and said exactly what, like I went up there and tried to be cute. And all of a sudden I go, who the fucking my kid? I want to kill this fucking bitch. Yeah. I just went on a rant. I destroyed that room. You know, and I forget the bit I got
Starting point is 01:18:18 from it. Like I got a joke from it. I'm dating the stripper, we were in love, everything was going great, then I ran out of the money. Something like stupid, and I just ran with it. And then I went into the fucking ball and chain, something, and then I went into Y. And this is when OJ was hot, like that. Yeah, 95.
Starting point is 01:18:40 And I started going into Y. Now I know he killed that bitch. And people were like, but that was the first time that I had done comedy. It took me four years to really found my voice. And then I said, that's never going to happen again. Like, I was so scared of that guy coming out. And it took five years for that guy to come out again.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Jesus. So you have it. It just never, the day it comes out on the way home, you're like, uh-oh. What the fuck happened tonight? So you know you have it. You can go into that gear. You can go to that spot.
Starting point is 01:19:17 So that was at the Comedy Underground down there? On a Monday night, I had a thick-bait sweater on with like a stripe on. I'll never forget that. I'll never forget somebody saying, hey, I taped that set. Me looking at them going, no, you didn't. And they're like, yeah, I'll have it for you at the end of the week. Nice. Somebody taped that set for me, and I popped it in and tears rolled down my face.
Starting point is 01:19:43 I was like, oh, my God. Who is that person? that club was the Seattle was just a great spot for me to start and that's who you first got on stage or that was pretty much yeah I mean when I moved back here I graduated college Arizona State never did anything other than an acting class then I came back here in summer of 93 and I took a workshop at UCLA with Pauly Shore's sister knowing that the comedy store sponsored it so it was a way for me to get into the comedy. store. I knew that it could it was a way to possibly get seen. So did the workshop and then every Wednesday I drive by the comedy store one day. Maybe I'll be in there.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And then I did my graduating workshop there in the original room. It was packed. They did well. People were giving business cards. I felt like it was a comedian. Then I did one open mic out in Chatsworth like next night and it was a typical open mic, which was like a not a wake-up call, but
Starting point is 01:20:43 I didn't want to go through that being that I'm from the valley. I just got done playing baseball is going to be hard for me to have somebody probably not from the valley running the show giving me like hey kid you know whatever you know yeah what yeah i knew the open i just didn't want i did one open mic to know it wasn't for me and i went back to UCLA and i took the business a comedy class i want to learn all about comedy and then the guy said if you want to do stand-up you got to get out of los angeles that's what he told me who taught the class to you danny robinson APA no shit
Starting point is 01:21:17 Yeah. Do you still see him from time to time? Time to time. He still says hello to you? Yeah. Yeah. He's a good guy. He represents Tiffany Haddish.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Oh, he does? Yeah. There you go. Well, he taught the workshop. And he said, it's good to get away. And then I looked into going either back to Phoenix or I had friends, but no real feel for supportive art. I didn't feel that vibe when I went to school there.
Starting point is 01:21:43 But my aunts and uncles lived up in Seattle. And they said, come up to Seattle. support the arts up here and then they had the Northridge earthquake in 94 I was working at Macy's Bullocks over at Topanga Promenade Mall I got in the earthquake happened got in the car and left and drove up to Seattle stayed with my family out in Bellevue area and then I just jumped into doing the open mics at the comedy underground just jumped into it meeting people then I got a job at the comedy underground learning all I just wanted to learn everything about comedy do with the
Starting point is 01:22:16 comedy everywhere just sat people you know on Fridays and Saturdays Clay with you know was the gent ran it you know with the long hair I still talk to them off oh really is he like in Asia or something yeah he's in Asia Indonesia or something yeah he taught me all about Clay Jones yeah Clay Jones he was a interesting guy and he taught me all about how the club ran and uh all the stories behind it and I just learned about how to seat a room run a room see a three person non showcase show. I learned about comedy there in Seattle, and luckily, there's some great comedians, and there was just, you know, coffee shops. That's where I learned to write. I learned to drink coffee in Seattle. The environment up there was really conducive to being an artist. And then we had
Starting point is 01:23:05 the cable access, me and Tena, we jumped on that, we did that. And it was just a big, it was a great community up in Seattle where I found my voice. And then after three years, because I started up there, tell like I was only getting maybe guest spots, but I was itching to get out. I was itching. I kind of like found my voice and I wanted to do more than you told me, Joey. You said, bro, you got to go to New York. And then I went to New York and that's where I really like broke out and found my voice, just talking and walking, getting off the subway, the L train and walking the Lower East Side
Starting point is 01:23:37 with my headphones on and visualizing feeling like, yeah, I'm cool, okay, like giving myself that confidence. Because I had some based off the cable access show. and mostly that, because I wasn't really getting great spots at the comedy underground. I mean, maybe I guess. I wasn't their guy, and I understood. But when I went to New York, I felt that energy. And I really honed my voice doing the Lower East Side shows.
Starting point is 01:24:06 And then I barked at the comedy seller, but I was so, because I thought it would lead to get in a spot. But I was intimidated by Esty. So I never really asked her how to get on. I was intimidated. But I saw the comedy, so I bark him in, so I knew Dave Attell, Judah, Gaffigan, Todd Barry, Marin. I saw how that room was run, but I still wasn't doing it. But New York is where, you know, I started doing shows, though, some alternative shows with Todd Barry and Maren and Dave Chappelle. And I was holding my own.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I just felt like I can come back home to Los Angeles. And I have a marketable skill. and my friends were coming out here that I met in New York were working for show. So when I got here in 2000, I had a place to stay, I had a car, I knew my way around, and then boom, I got a spot on CBS late night, late, late show at Kilbourne. I did a premium blend, and then I got Best Damn Sport Show,
Starting point is 01:25:02 and then the rest is history. So if you want to say that. But I kind of like New York is where I really like, I honed it. And as a kid growing up here in the Valley, I was just, I wanted to go to New York City, I wanted that gritty skyscraper energy. And that's what I gave them.
Starting point is 01:25:21 You told me to go there. And that's where I just started talking. That's why I did surf reality because they weren't into jokes. It was like talking. So I talked about what was on my mind, getting mad about just New York stuff or what have you. So I did that. And then warm up helped me professionally, like being around celebrities or whatever. And then just doing shows and then going for it.
Starting point is 01:25:43 It's like this is the major leagues. Now, once you're here in L.A. to have thoughts like, I'm not confident. What are they going to think? And I don't have that. It's like, I can't. This is it. So I feel like I've done pretty good in terms of like, of a lot of like, my resume is wide and vast. I just haven't really capitalized on one thing and have done that, whatever that one thing may be. I got to tell you something. I almost had a tear in mind a couple minutes ago. Oh, really? I didn't see out because. You know, I had this discussion with Duncan on his podcast how I would love to tell you there's not a God. I would love to tell people that there's not a God or a higher force or a higher power. But me going to Seattle was a pivotal point in my life. Like, pivotal. Like, looking back at even though I got arrested six times.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Right. You know, it was the. pivotal point in my life. Like it taught me, it took me completely out of my comfort zone. I still remember going to the underground. I got into town at one in the morning on Friday night, slept, got up at 9.30, went and got eggs, and took a bus down to the county underground. And just looked in there. It wasn't even, it was Swanis. Yeah, Swanis upstairs. The Club was downstairs. And all I wanted to do was to figure out how to get a spot. And I was there and the bar was closed.
Starting point is 01:27:21 And I'm looking through the fucking glass and my heart's pumping because I'm at the fucking comedy underground. And then I went back Sunday and they told me to come back on Monday and I, that was the happiest day of my life like that fucking Sunday. When they said come back on Monday
Starting point is 01:27:38 and signed up for the open mic and I signed up and the guy was great to me and I dropped the name, Rick Cairns and the guy's like, yeah, who put you up? And I was like, I do not believe this. I'm at the comedy underground. Like, I do not believe this. And then a kid walked in with a Boston Red Sox had him backwards.
Starting point is 01:27:58 I know who that was. And it was Josh Walt. And I just latched on to him. I said, you got to, you're from the East Coast. Yeah, you got to film me on what's going on here. I came on heavy to Josh. And I remember him being, like, kind of intimidated. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:12 I called him every day for a week. Like, what the fuck? You know, call me back. You know, but I was just. so ready and then car warm in haven i will assistant manager i will be it's like uh i'll be i'll be in bed to him for the rest of my life i can never say no to him if he calls me for something because that year and a half with him was an education you know that i was not going to get in denver i was not getting that comedy education in denver Seattle new
Starting point is 01:28:46 Seattle, no comedy, the arts. There's a reason why all those companies are up there. The contest took me to a different level. Yep. Just doing the contest. Remember those? Coming in like six to seven took me to a different level. And then being there, like being the feature act every six weeks.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Every six weeks, I was the feature act. You know, I knew how to manipulate John Fox. I knew how to manipulate giggles. I knew how to, you know, get Bellingham. I had them on rotation. On Monday I would fax Pat Wilson I would fax Donald Reed In Portland
Starting point is 01:29:21 I would fax Alberto Who booked the music box I remember downtown You know in those days Monday at 9 I was already on the corner I didn't have a fax machine Giving them a quarter of fax A cover sheet
Starting point is 01:29:34 And a fucking schedule Fake Fake schedule Completely fake Vogue Vogus You know Thank God a lot of comedy clubs
Starting point is 01:29:44 Didn't have webpages in those days. Right. But I would make up fucking dates. Like, let's say this week here, if I was home, I would say I'm in Carolines in New York. I would just flat out lie on the resume and then leave three weeks open
Starting point is 01:29:59 so they could see I was open. Hopefully they'd give me a Thursday at the music box or sadly. Alberto book two things. Pat Wilson had like four things. Donna Reed had like eight things. Ron Reed's wife. Well, she was a manager.
Starting point is 01:30:12 She was a manager, but she had. Laura. Laura Crowe. of rest in peace that bitch had if you had Josh she had Josh but that bitch had 15 rooms in those days she had 15 to 20 rooms she had those two Mexican rooms that one room up in Kent yeah she had rooms Jack see she didn't really book me that wasn't booked me but I got back at her I would call her and ask her for guest spots and I could feel her pussy hairs tightening up oh called because she hated me with
Starting point is 01:30:46 with every piece of her heart. She hated me all the way down to her toes. But I would call her three times a week and go, hi, Donna. What was the name? Was it Donna? Laura. Laura.
Starting point is 01:30:58 I ain't know Mrs. Crocker, Joey Diaz, and I can hear her go. I'm going to go down to your club tonight and doing guestby. Is that okay with you? She would not pay me. She never paid me a dime. But till today, I thank her
Starting point is 01:31:14 because her hatred made me a bad. better comic. There you go. I proved myself to her that I was better than she was. She might have hated me, but I did a free spot in her rooms three nights a week. And the club owners would say, why don't you work here because she won't book me. I mean, Seattle was like that, you know, it's like they're if you're a big, big guy, you know, an Italian guy, Seattle and Italy, it's like Italians, two different thing. Well, you know, the thing about I learned early on, The thing I learned early on was that, and this was a no-brainer,
Starting point is 01:31:49 I think it was a guy named, there was a magician who worked a triple run, and he came in on a Tuesday, and he was a sweetheart of a guy, and I had him sleep over. This is my first week of comedy, first year of comedy. At this point, I was probably doing comedy nine months,
Starting point is 01:32:05 and I let him sleep over my house. I was divorced, and I had two bedrooms, and the triple runs in those days went. Tuesday night Boulder, Wednesday night, you're all, off. So a feature act will pick up $50 cash. I'll have to pay $40 for a hotel room.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Because you were off. Right. You were off. So that means you had to pay for your own hotel Wednesday night. Then Thursday was Craig. Friday was Gunnison and Saturday was fucking the edge of hell. Tell you right. These were hell. These were tough gigs.
Starting point is 01:32:42 The Denver run was a big week. Craig Colorado was the only room that in the thing, it said this room gets active, the stage was 30 feet away, and there was glass, and they would throw shit. Oh, really? And they'd said, if something happens, go to your
Starting point is 01:32:58 room, lock yourself in, and call the fucking thing it said would just make you laugh. Like, underneath the room, there's a question, this room gets active. So, what I would do in those days would let, if the headliner or the feature were cool,
Starting point is 01:33:17 I'd give my number and say, call me when you check out. You got a couch to sleep on tomorrow. And some of those guys with Doug Stanhope, the guy that took Freddie Prince's place and Chico and the man,
Starting point is 01:33:30 I had a couple guys stay over. But one guy stayed over. That wasn't the funniest guy in the world, but he was a magician comic and he was kind of a nice guy. He gave me a list of bookers, you know, like those guys that have those sheets.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Yeah. We went to the printing, place and he made like 20 sheets of bookings but he told me something I said to him do you think I should go to New York and he goes why would you want to do that there's a thousand of years in New York there's a thousand of years in Boston he goes you got to find the market where there's nobody else like you can you know could shine you could you could be unique and people will hire you that's why when the opportunity for Seattle came I was like, I'm going.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Yeah, Seattle. Because this is the same thing I told you, and I also told this to Mitch Hedberg. The reason why I told you guys this is because they had a thousand of you out here. There's a thousand goofy white guys. They don't have that in New York. Now they do. Now they got everything in New York.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Right. But not 20 years ago. 20 years ago, there was a lot of guys like me and everybody talked to the audience, which is a bad habit. that you pick up in New York, you talk to the audience. So the coasts were different. Yeah. So when I talked to Hedberg, God rest of the soul,
Starting point is 01:34:54 and I told him, there's nobody like you in New York. He hit in New York. Went to New York. Because there's nobody like you there. That's where you're going to get love. Where there are people like you, it's no love. I knew when I saw you that there wasn't nobody like you in New York at that time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Now there's a thousand guys trying to review Brody Stevens. They don't work. You follow me? Then they become themselves. Yeah. You know, when we all start, we start being somebody else. Then we become ourselves. We evolve into ourselves.
Starting point is 01:35:26 I just think, like, comedians, I try to send them to New York City, try and spend some time there, go there. I, you know, move there. I became, I lived there for three years. I wasn't going back and forth. I was living there. And I got to experience. that New York lifestyle, taking the subway, and being, you know, you could, it wasn't like
Starting point is 01:35:50 who you were, it was what you were. You know, people, you were, like, you didn't, you could, it didn't matter what you looked like. New York, nobody cared. Whereas L.A., I grew up here in L.A. I went to school in Arizona. It was not, it's completely different from New York. Just, New York just really opened my, gave me that comment. If you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere.
Starting point is 01:36:14 That's what they say. And I just recently went back to New York last month, and I felt that energy again, just walking around that city and, you know, getting out of Los Angeles here, getting out of the valley, just getting into that and getting off the Internet, getting out of your head, walking that city, and you're feeling you walk in, and it inspires you, and you start saying yourself, I don't need to have these meds, I don't need to have all these things and overthink you jump in and you got to sink or swim there is good for you i think everybody i think most comedian should strive to live if they can there for uh i did i guess i did a 10-month stint there in the
Starting point is 01:36:57 beginning and it woke me the fuck up like it let me know who the fuck i was or what i wanted and what i needed to do to get to my goals like and that that's why i went right back to denver with a firecracker in my ass. I went to Denver and I worked every night and I took that work ethic up to Seattle. In Seattle, it was double the work. Right. So now I had double the payload, you know.
Starting point is 01:37:25 No matter what you do in life, you have to sacrifice, man, and you have to get out of your comfort zone to get to where you want to be. Whether you're an artist, a fucking, you know, you play the trumpet, but you play the trumpet in fucking Louisiana, not Louisiana, in Utah.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Who wants to listen to a trumpet? but Louisiana. You got to go to a jazz bar in Minneapolis or a jazz bar in New Orleans or a jazz bar in L.A. You know, sometimes you got to end and people can't make that step. So they never fulfill what the fuck they wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:37:58 You know what I mean? When you came in tonight and you said you got off those men's, I got to tell you something, Brody. I'm proud of you. Thank you. I'm proud of you. And I'm proud that, you know, like you said, well, whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I'm calm. And one thing about me is, man, I put myself in the worst case scenario. And I told you, I said, you know, and it was a joke. And we laughed a couple of years ago, you want to rub a room, fucking squat, the imaginary flies. That's what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Are you in a rubber room saying, help? There's a fly.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Who's talking to me? I was combative with the Filipino nurses. You know, they threaten me with a needle. But I was all, I go, I don't need to be here. I go, I made a mistake. Go look on the internet. I'm a good guy. I kept telling him, like, look me up.
Starting point is 01:38:42 but that was a crazy time. But I was kind of like, to be honest, I, yeah, I couldn't believe that I was in the UCLA hospital. How many days to have you over there for? 17. No, they didn't. They wouldn't let me leave. It went from three days to six days to nine days. Did you make any meaningful relationships in there?
Starting point is 01:39:08 Did you meet anybody in there that you've contacted since? No. No, one girl, like, attack me over, like, chocolate ice cream. So spent 17 days? Yeah. Now, who knew about this at the time? Did your mom know? My mom.
Starting point is 01:39:24 I mean, people knew, I think, because I was tweeting about it. I think I just needed to, like, dry out because I went off those meds cold turkey. I made a mistake. I went to Ireland. I went to Montreal. They told me to take a victory lap. I'm having fun. I actually took a little less because I wanted to...
Starting point is 01:39:44 I'd always had wanted to... Not maybe be on the Lexapro, which is common. But I also knew that going to Dublin, and I was researched like, okay, if you want to drink a beer, maybe cut back a little bit. I cut back. And then I got sick in Montreal right after...
Starting point is 01:40:00 It was like a two-week trip altogether, and then they gave me the Z-Pack. And I had strep throat, and then they gave me the Z-pack. I felt better. And I said, I feel great. I don't need these. I don't think I need the meds anymore.
Starting point is 01:40:13 I'm like through this period. And then, but here's the thing. I was just. I'm still laughing about 17 days to add you in like one floor of the cuckoo's nest. Well, you know what? It was like they did. Do you write anything about this? I wrote.
Starting point is 01:40:26 I have my notes somewhere, but I felt, I mean, I, I. Can we do a short film about your 17 day stint in there and you'd be brutally honest? Like what you did and shit in there. Like, that's the secret right there. If we could recreate. I play ping pong. I smoked. Methyl cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:40:42 What's methyl? Menthol. Menthol. Listen to the radio, watch TV. You talk to anybody when you're in there? Not really, but I had a lot of visitors, a lot of friends who came by, Ozak came by Nick Kroll, Steve Renazizi. I didn't even know you were in that.
Starting point is 01:41:01 This is crazy. This is the first time. Yeah, I had a booker. They were like bringing people in, you know. We could have got you in, worked you in. And where were you? UCLA. Right over the hospital there, Ronald Reagan, I guess, psychiatric ward.
Starting point is 01:41:16 But I wasn't, because I felt that way before, well, not necessarily. I just know not to go, you just can't do it. What was the trigger that time? I think when I came back, so I want to. What do you need to avoid to stay off the meds and not end up back there? what is the Brody Stevens back at you
Starting point is 01:41:42 surly swine flies talking to the Chinese people it's feast or famine on this one yeah torture I don't know I mean I should probably have
Starting point is 01:41:51 some like a support system with this but I'm being my own advocate I know my body I'm mature I know choices I'm not saying that I won't ever go back on a medication we'll see but so far I'm trying to
Starting point is 01:42:04 implement life skills you know like socializing, booking, working, being an adult, and taking supplements, doing my comedy, believing in myself. I'm just calmer. My body feels better. I'll just, I'll say that. For me to not go back, I mean, I never had a problem before or after. I had a reaction to these medications is what I, because I was never headed like this guy's, it was never going to be like something like that. I went off them. It was just, and I was agitated. It was like, I attacked a guy at a couple Starbucks, a 7-Eleven.
Starting point is 01:42:43 I was like road rage guy, but I was just, but I- Did you get banned from the Starbucks for a while? No comment. No, here's what happened. I felt when I got back, I think my friend saw me and they were surprised like, oh, Brody, you're not yourself. But I felt like, okay, I'm, you know, I feel better. the audience warm-up guy you I'm brodie now I got this show on HBO happening I've good things
Starting point is 01:43:12 happening so I came back confident and I think people were a little like taken aback that oh he's confident we're not used to this guy because I did the TMZ show they loved it I did it that day I did a taping I did a show at UCB and I did fine I was just out of my character they weren't used to it and then when they questioned me then I became defensive and my my I became agitated so and this was like a first time of it happening and then you tie in the Twitter. That's the other thing. I had that outlet to go, you know, to lash out. But I was also, I mean, I did stuff on Twitter also. You know, I was saying like F you. The Twitter thing was what I had heard that you were cracking on Twitter. I did hear that. I heard something about a roof. No roof. No, no. I was
Starting point is 01:43:59 never, I never, I felt great. Not that you were going to jump or nothing, that you climbed a No, no climbing. No climbing. I don't know. You have a zip line with Lee. You took it down. I don't fucking know. I did go on Twitter and I was lashing out, but part of it is because I did TMZ and
Starting point is 01:44:19 these guys and I felt like, hey, I did a good job. And these guys are saying I'm out of my mind. F you. I know what I'm doing. And I just had all this confidence in not being on the medication to like hold me back. I was basically manic. That's all. I mean, not that's all, but that's what was happening.
Starting point is 01:44:35 to me and it was freaking people out so they called the police as opposed to maybe saying hey brodie maybe we'll go to let's go to you know go to Santa Barbara for a few days and chill it could have been handled that way looking back on it to be honest with you because I've learned since like you believe me if I take red bulls and do something I know you I could like get agitated I was just I was Yeah, I just typical signs of stopping the meds culture. I could have happened to anybody. So I don't feel like I have that's something that's in me whether it's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:45:17 I don't think so. I would hope not. I don't know. We'll see how I deal with stress. That's why podcasting, that's why having a support system. You know, I started doing the periscopes after all this to check in and be more, you know, and be more present, walking, making appointments. The periscopes are brilliant.
Starting point is 01:45:34 That's brilliant. I didn't know you used it therapeutically also. I did that a little bit after, yeah, like this was like a year or two after, but definitely like walking became therapeutic, like getting out of the house. I learned to get out and walk and go to the Starbucks. People like associate me with going to Starbucks. That's because I walked to it. I made it known, like I'm known for being out. So you're forcing, again, you're doing what we're discussing.
Starting point is 01:46:04 discussed early on, you're stopping the motherfucker before he even shows up. Yeah. You're stopping depression before he even shows up. You're stopping your mind from going there before they could even take you there, you know, which is always that's, I've learned when your mind is taking you there to take it somewhere else. Trust me. Took me 30 years. I'm no psychotherapist.
Starting point is 01:46:31 I just know if I wait, if I go to, a bed and I wake up a three in the morning with something on my mind I did that for years I did that for years probably and I would go insane and pace and then one another took a notebook out and I wrote down what I was mad about go smoke go to make a cheese sandwich come back and read it you'll fall right to sleep but a lot of this depression for me if or I'm susceptible to some of that if I am. So it's, I think it's a lot of its career, fine, it's like that sort of thing. It's not, these are not irrational thoughts. So some of these thoughts about like money or career, I can, I can rectify him by taking action. So for me to go, hey, I'm going to, I need a pill,
Starting point is 01:47:19 or I go need to talk to somebody. No, you need to go book a podcast. You need to go show your face. You need to go for a walk. You need to sign up for a class. So I'm implementing, you know, those activities to stave it off. And I, you know, I get down on myself. I've always been somebody. We all do.
Starting point is 01:47:37 I've always been that. But I'll say this. Like, I'm lucky. I'm grateful that I have the, that, that I've made, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:45 I've, I've been able to do comedy. And I can perform at the comedy store. I can go places because, uh, it's, uh, it's an outlet.
Starting point is 01:47:53 It's, it's not therapy. It's therapeutic. And I know it helps other people as well. And I think today, with it being so negative out there. And if I can share some of my philosophies without jamming it down their throat,
Starting point is 01:48:09 but baseball's fun. I've been around successful baseball, successful TV shows, successful comedians, podcasts. I'm sharing that. And then the comedy store being the hottest club, and if you have your name on the marquee and you have a spot at the comedy store, that means something.
Starting point is 01:48:25 And I know that, and I try to share with people how I might think, you know, like, I'll even joke. Like, I got a, you didn't laugh at that joke? Well, I get free Red Bull. You didn't laugh at that joke? I park for, I, I park wherever I want. So why don't you do what I do? It's kind of a joke, but it is a joke.
Starting point is 01:48:41 But I think that, um, yeah, I'm lucky. I'm lucky, but I'm just, uh, you know, how lucky we are. We're very lucky. Very, very lucky. Just the fact that we were together. in Seattle.
Starting point is 01:49:01 You ready, people? Grab a pen and a piece of paper. 1997. Even before? I got there in 96. I got there in 94. It's 2018. So we've known each other.
Starting point is 01:49:17 We've been in the struggle for 22 years. We've been apart for four of those years. You were in New York. That's we're very lucky. We're very lucky. There's a lot of people that we were up there in those one night in.
Starting point is 01:49:38 That 16 list, I'll never forget. Oh, yeah. Listen, man, when I'm in that fucking old folks home and my memory's gone and I'm dying, I'm going to think of those Monday nights. They were great. They were very, very special to me. They were your whole week. That's what people don't understand.
Starting point is 01:49:56 that's what sucks about doing comedy in LA that you don't have a home club and you don't get pushed apart by your peers because in Houston on Monday nights you had to show up every Monday with a new five minutes track your peers forced you because if not you look that fucking bad so you know
Starting point is 01:50:18 we had that every Monday you had to show up another new three minutes yeah you could show up with someone this shit you did last week, but you better show up with something to fucking kill them. That was your goal on Monday. Two minutes. You only had six minutes, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:36 Six, eight, and then the close of the 15th? Oh, no. The open mic, you'd get... Six apiece. It was five, maybe six. Light of five, six, because they were training you for the Seattle Comedy Competition. Okay. Remember the Seattle Comedy Competition was five, six the first week, light at five.
Starting point is 01:50:55 You got to be off by six, or you got... a point taken away. So they trained you for that, to do the open mic system. So, I mean, just for that alone, if I don't wake up tomorrow, we still had the opportunity of growing together, going through.
Starting point is 01:51:13 I mean, I got locked up in jail for 30 days in Seattle. You got putting a looney bin down here for 17 days. It's no difference. What happens? We all had our fucking shortcomings. But what's important is that we're still in L.A. We're still doing spots.
Starting point is 01:51:28 We're still relevant. And it goes back to those Monday nights. Yeah. If you go home tonight, smoking joint, you really think about what we learned on those Monday nights. Just torture and Rita O. Taking her pills and eating her pizza and our nachos. We would eat her nachos.
Starting point is 01:51:48 And Rita O was the local trendy. Good nachos there. Good nachos. She was out. We had Bill the bartender laughing. I still remember his girl. girlfriend and Clay's girlfriend nodding from heroin sitting there on a Monday night I'd open my two chicks like this waitresses I think remember the hot Asian there was a
Starting point is 01:52:07 hot Asian waitress on Monday nights yeah I remember there was Bill's girlfriend and then we go upstairs and that bartender fucking hated me but I had Anthony Anthony but I had a tab in there and I still remember going upstairs and seeing Seahawks all the baseball teams all the baseball teams it was and you know what there was no ATM card there was no car
Starting point is 01:52:33 there was no HBO there was no Netflix I lived in an office a little bit smaller than this one on the floor with three or four towels as a pillow
Starting point is 01:52:47 a half a blanket and my clothes next to me on the floor and those are the happiest times of my fucking life going down on a Monday night. Yeah. And then we would leave there and go somewhere else
Starting point is 01:53:00 where they had cages. They had another open mic on Monday. Oh, yeah, I didn't really do that one. It was an art bar. It was Newtown. We'd go there and they had chicks and cages. That was always great. While you're on stage?
Starting point is 01:53:12 While you're on stage. That's always great. You know what I'm saying? And then we got the Tacoma contest. Yep. We're there for a Tacoma contest. Crossroads. Crossroads.
Starting point is 01:53:21 She contacted me recently. Oh, really? To say hello. She's still around. So, listen, man, you know, when you get a check now or when something good happens, I want you to remember that you earned all this. There's no reason to ever end up for me.
Starting point is 01:53:39 When I get something, this Netflix, but everything goes back to those Monday nights in Seattle. So I'm thankful I had that. And I had that scene in Denver before Seattle, but nothing beats my comedy. A brand. Those two years, those 18 months, I didn't see how made my mind become a comic. And I'll never, ever, ever forget that.
Starting point is 01:54:04 And you were part of that. You were part of that. Thank you. Yeah, just they were so into the arts with the coffee house, the weather and the late night diners and just the characters in the scene and the cable access shows. And they watched it. Seattle really supported that stuff. You couldn't do that in a Los Angeles or, and it was a big city, but it was a small city. And it was, you just knew you were doing something right. It was on the, and Seattle,
Starting point is 01:54:31 you know, it needed, I guess grunge was just dying out, but there's just something. Think of all those guys who were there at that point. Mitch Hedberg, you, myself, Josh Wolf, Craig Gas, all those comedians, they're still working like they do the cruise ships. They do all the corporate stuff. Seattle. David Crow. David Crow. Oh, my God. The Hawaiian kid. Kermit Apio. Vince Valenzuela. Vince Valenzuela is still around. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:54:58 He lives in Santa Monica. I don't know if he's doing comedy anymore. So I'm on Facebook. I think he got a new hip. Did he? Yeah, I was talking about it on Facebook. But there's just characters in Seattle that you wouldn't get, I would say, like, yeah, you said, maybe a Denver you wouldn't get him. Or Phoenix, you wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Or Dallas. The one I think about a lot is the cook at the underground, downstairs with the long hair. I remember. He was, if, guys, he was one of the most interesting guys. I haven't met. We don't have time to go into him now. What was his name? I have to call Josh.
Starting point is 01:55:33 Okay. I remember. I remember his face. I remember his long hair. And the nights that I couldn't make the bus back to Belleville, wherever Josh lived. Bellevue? Bellevue, I would stay with him. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:48 And I can't tell you, every time I stayed with him, it was a different adventure. First, he had, first one, he had no heat. He lived in the warehouse, two blocks from a thing. He had two broken windows to air. I remember it's snowing. And, you know, by the window, there was like three inches of snow. It's hard to sleep. And I'm in a corner with ten blankets on.
Starting point is 01:56:10 My jacket on. Do you know I felt, I got so fucking high in his apartment one night that you had to go take a shirt because he lived in a warehouse. Uh-huh. You had to pull the thing up and the elevator to go upstairs. and there was three people on the floor, but one shower and one bathroom. And that one day I was walking towards the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:56:30 I just remember this. And I fucking was hung over, and I was so fucked up the night before, that before I went in the shower, I passed out and went through this sheetrock. And there was an imprint of me going through the fucking sheetrock. Until this day, it's probably me just, I just dipped over and broke the fucking wall.
Starting point is 01:56:51 There was an imprint. You can still see my head where I went through the sheet rock and he woke me up and they threw me in the shower. Jesus Christ. Crazy times before social media, before all of this technology. It was a simpler time. It was. It's tough to be human now, man. A lot of information.
Starting point is 01:57:13 A lot of, I've seen in the last three years, I've seen a lot more people go crazy than I've ever. seen in my life i could count them on two hands and you think it you think it has something to do with social media that's one of the conduits i think that it's rolled around it's everything that's going on social media the way the news is portrayed the way people are acting the political climate i think that it's just people losing their minds i see it every day and it's sad it's sad but hey i'm happy you're off the meds thank you and I may go back on but we're good now right now yeah balanced balanced exactly you have a support system with me thank you support system with Josh wolf yep you have the
Starting point is 01:58:03 economy store and uh that's the most important thing man I'm happy you're still doing your thing you're always welcome on the church church of what's happening now and fuck it keep doing what you're doing if next time you go to if next time God forbid I'll go visit oh you'll visit okay we'll get you booked I'll fucking I'll smuggle something in to keep you I'm saying a line of Coke something to keep you going. I love you, Brody Stevens. Thank you for coming out of the church, brother. Thank you, Joey.
Starting point is 01:58:30 Thank you, Lee. That was Brody Stevens. I hope you enjoyed it. He made us laugh. We talked about fucking then a couple days later, Bob Linger sent me a bunch of fucking Al Fox books and shit. Poor Al Fox thought he was a fucking celebrity that man. That poor fucking Momo.
Starting point is 01:58:49 But anyway, guys, I want to thank you for a great, great, great 1999. 2019. 2019. I'm sorry. That's how fucked up this fucking cookie got me. Real quick, before we end this show,
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Starting point is 02:03:43 and for your accomplishments and for your failures and for acknowledging them and to keep coming back and listening and supporting us every week. You know we're here, you know we love you. From fucking Ook to Jay Bish, to Lalingas, to Loran Rosenka, to Jeremy Slater.
Starting point is 02:04:00 I love all you motherfuckers, Kern Michael, and this is just off the top of my fucking head. You understand me? I love you guys. Have a great fucking week. I'll do a couple of periscopes just to tease you. But besides that,
Starting point is 02:04:13 we'll be back. January 6th, ready to fucking rock, all right? Blue cheese with wings or go fuck your mother. Kick this fucking meal, Lee. Have a great week. Happy New Year to you and all your family, and may 2020 be the year you're waiting on.
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