The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #785 - Childhood Memories with George Kolodinsky Part #1

Episode Date: May 11, 2020

Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt talk about UFC 249 and then Joey sits down with lifelong friend, George Kolodinsky. Joey and George met in highschool, lived together in Colorado and New Jersey. This podcast is brought to you by: CBD Lion - For all of your CBD needs, from shatter to gummies, go to www.CBDLion.com and use code CHURCH for 20% off.   MyBookie.ag -  Use code promo joey to get a 50% match on your first deposit up to $1,000.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

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It's Monday the 11th of fucking May. if you're home, you're home, if you're out, you're out. Just keep your mask on and don't get, don't fucking breathe on me, cugsuckers. It's another great week. The church of what's happened now is here to fucking hit you again.

Again this week, no fucking guest, no mask. We're going back to the fucking Zoom. I got a great Zoom for you. I got one of my buddies I've been friends with which is 79. If anybody wants to ever investigate me or write a book,

this guy will tell you everything you need to know because he's seen it across the way. He was there when, in 85 for me, when I got clean, he saw me get taken away into a fucking back room when I got sentenced. He saw me get out. He saw me get on stage. And he's still one of my best brothers today. You have no idea how lucky I am to happen in my life.

He's going to be on the podcast Monday and motherfucking Wednesday. That's how big in time we got with him. But besides that, it's fucking Monday. I don't know what's going on in your life. I don't know if you got the stimulus check. I don't know if you got your unemployment, but you know what? You're alive. So stop the fucking frown and get to it, motherfuckers.

Let's talk about upsets. Tony Ferguson versus Justin Gagey. Great fight. There hasn't been nothing going on. So I smelt the rat somewhere along the line, but I didn't see that coming at all. I like to congratulate Justin Gagey. I like to congratulate.

Ferguson for the fucking streak that he put together. I was like a 12 or 13 fight streak, but, you know, like I always say, man, it's like comedy. Things change. You can't settle too much in your success. You got to take it. It's for today. And tomorrow's another day. That's a problem we have.

We think that this shit, you know, it's like I was watching this movie the other day. It's with Ben Stiller and the guy who OD on heroin. Along came Pauli. Along came Pauli. And he's a guy that's did something 10 years ago, but he's still walking around. What's a guy to see? Philipsy Marlon. He's walking around.

It's like me. All I did was talk about Spider-Man too. You know, it's like watching the fighter. And the guy's brother fought Sugar Ray Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard. And he, in one of the ring rounds, he slipped. And he said he knocked him down. So his claim to fame was. you know oh i knocked down sugar ray lennon when i fought him in

in nineteen seventy three that's great but at two thousand twenty what have you done lately you fuck and this is why i believe that we do shit on a fucking daily you know and uh the ufc's something like like comedy it's just moving fast now comedy's stuck we're all down to zero you know whether it's dave chapelle or lee we're both down to zero nobody's doing any fucking comedy nobody's doing shit we're just trying to get back we're just trying to get

over this thing. But it's so weird how what were we talking about? I don't even fucking know. About the fights last night. The fights how you know for years we've been trying to set up Tony and Khabib, Tony and Khabib,

now it's not a fight no more. Now it's Khabib against Tony and Khabib against fucking Gaji and Tony against McGregor. I mean, that's all you see now.

Now McGregor wants the box. He wants a box. Cesar Chavez, a guy hasn't fucking thrown a boxing pound in 10 years. You know, this is what kills me. Now we got good fights. The next car in July could be great or whatever, the fucking island or whatever.

I mean, hey, these fights this week are no fucking Wednesday night's fight is going to be great with Tocera against Anthony. And then Saturday with Overeem against the N, and that's Harris. My heart goes out to him and his family. He's the one whose daughter, got abducted and killed. But anyway, I'm not the UFC guy.

I just want to speak about how fast life moves. And when everybody's looking at one thing, all of a sudden something happens unexpectedly. You don't control anything. You control yourself and where and what you want to do. And we saw that Saturday night with Gagey. That, for me, is an inspirational fight. Because he called it,

and then they gave 18 days more to study the kid. And I mean, I've watched, you know, I know him. I love Tony Ferguson. I'm a huge fan of Tony Ferguson. He didn't even let Tony Ferguson get a fucking submission. It was like Tony Ferguson, his jiu-jitsu wasn't even in the game. So it's pretty interesting when you look at life and you, that nobody has nothing down. You have dick.

You don't know nothing. You're as good as you are right now today. Tomorrow, I don't know dick about. Yeah, well, McGregor's going to fight this guy. Yeah, that don't matter. Did you see that beating that Gagie put on fucking, on whatever last night? Think about that.

And then we'll decide what's going to happen. And then we'll see if he's going to fight Saza Gomez or whatever the guy with the panty hose on, whatever the fuck his name is. Obviously, hindsight's 2020. But since it's really how we don't know how life's going to go, I feel like the reason I felt bad for Tony is that was like the second at least

in a normal title fight like change and like to me I don't even do fighters stand to gain anything from doing like should he have not taken that fight and be like you know I'm gonna wait for Kabib Listen it's like life It's like life you're making decisions

Some people want to fight Some people want to make the move You know Again hindsight is 20-20 you know hindsight is you know I should have done this I should have done that I shouldn't have done the half hour Netflix I should have waited for an hour

Netflix who would have known you're in the moment right you know you're a fighter I'm not here I'm not I'm not cut out to sit here and wait you know I was never a waiter to sit there with my thing and make believe I'm thinking right I was always a doer you gotta go do something

every day you gotta do something you gotta do something I don't know what you're talking about I don't know what you're talking about I don't know what you're talking about He doesn't do something. So, you know, this is just great. We've watched Gagey come up. We've all sat there and watched Gagey come up

and he raised his hand. And if you're going to raise your hand, raise your fucking hand. Well, he had something interesting that he said in this interview with Rogan. He said something to the effect of, like, I had to lose to fix it. Like, there was nothing. Listen, you're going to have to bomb 80 times to become a great comic. And the same thing happens in fight. Right now there's a fighter named Kevin Lee.

He's a black kid. He's lost his last three fights, maybe. I don't know. I'm not a fight. But I know by looking at Kevin Lee in his determination and how hard he works, one day you put everything together, it's all going to fall together. That's why I keep telling people all the time, keep showing up to the map. Because no matter what happens, if you keep showing,

up you're bound to get better at that thing. It doesn't matter when you do calm. If you're a contractor, well, they're looking for experience. You start off as a fucking hard carrier or you pick up papers and trash. And then one day a guy says, yeah, come here, pick a piece of wood, help me cut it, measure it, boom, pop. And then the next thing that the guy's telling you to help them put it up on the fucking wall. And next you know the guy's telling you, hey, what are you doing Saturday?

You want to do a side job with me? and now you've become you went from being a helper from being a fucking laborer to be in a carpenter helper and you're laying wood now now you're cutting measurements now he calls you at night he'll go hey tomorrow I'm gonna be there at nine but have 15 4 by 8 half inch

boards cut 4 by 6 so we could do this now you take more responsibility upon yourself and you find yourself And then one day he tells you to do something And you cut an angle off You cut you didn't measure it and you did it wrong Guess what? It's going to cost you money

Now you have to do the job over again And even though you're a good carpenter You got to do the job over again You're going to feel like shit But you're going to learn something from that So our setbacks are always positives If you do the positive thing from the setback I don't mind a good setback from time to time

Right now How many people are getting set back by this situation. This is a horrible situation, this virus. People are getting set back, but you're not going to worry about it. I'm not going to worry about it. I could sit here and cry every episode that I'm losing money by not going on the road. Or I could cry here, sit here and tell you how happy I am that I haven't caught in the coronavirus and I haven't put my family through all that and I haven't been in a hospital bed for eight fucking weeks and, you know, I had tubes down my throat. So in life there's always something that you have to find, especially on a

motherfucking Monday. Mondays are not for everybody. People don't like Mondays. For me, I come out of bed Monday with two knives and a knife in my hand and a razor blade in my toe. I'm ready to stab you somewhere because that's who I am on a Monday. I know that Monday sets the pace for the rest of the fucking week. But back to just engage you in life and, you know, for months we've been looking at this fight and look what we've seen last. night. Look what we saw last night, you know? I bet there's a bunch of 155 is doing push-ups today.

You know, Dustin Porreys, that's a good fight now. That changes the division around. Meanwhile, McGregor wants to fight some guy who his panty hose 20 years ago. You know, this is what I'm saying. So, anyway, you port it, it was a great weekend. I hope you guys

had a great weekend. I hope you guys are getting your lives back to normality little by little you know this doesn't mean you're going to a fucking violin show tonight or a fucking 12 man whatever I'm not seeing I don't

I don't want to see the apostles okay if anybody comes to you and says I we're going to a part as soon as I count 12 apostles that's when I don't go please just because the band has been halfway lifted I care about you still wash your hands still don't touch your face

and still fucking put the mask on. And if you feel that you've been around somebody or whatever, put a mask on. I don't have a mask on today because it's Lee with social distancing. The doors open. And that's a beautiful motherfucking day to be alive.

But without further ado, listen, he's going to do the first half on Monday from 79 to when he moved out to Colorado. And then Wednesday, we're going to do, we're going to finish it off with me going to prison. and me doing stand-up and me doing a bunch of other shit. So I hope you enjoy this little interview of my man,

George Collardinsky out of All-Star Sports in Cliffside Park. He's got a bunch of pictures and memorabilia up there that he sells of mine. Anytime Troy Conrad takes a picture of me or whatever, I send it to him. So if you ever interested, he's got a lot of this stuff because he's one of the best framers in the country. So this is my brother, George Kalidensky. I hope you enjoy it. Go ahead. George, my brother, what's happening?

What up? For you people, don't know, George Kaladinsky is not from North Bergen. He's an original, though. He went to summer school there in 79, 80, and 81, and that makes him a North Bergen original. Because if you're stupid enough to go to North Bergen High School, then you're dumb enough to hang out with me, you know what I'm saying?

Good to see you, brother. What's up, man? I'm glad that senior year I didn't have to go back. I would have got a diploma from North Bird. No, I would have had to go back my senior year, so I said, fuck it, I missed off. I was short like three credits. I said, fuck it, I'm not going to summer school.

I went, dude, I went to graduate, and they're like, they stopped me in the hallway. I'm like, you know, you can't graduate. I'm like, what are you talking about? I passed. You didn't hand in your 10th grade health book. Huh? Yeah, no, they always fuck you at the end.

I got the first shot more I saw. I go, you got a health book? Yeah. Give me that. And you graduate from St. Cecilius. You didn't even go to Cliffside Park. No, no, no. He's originally from Clipside, but Cliffside Park, New Jersey.

I want to give it a shout out because it has the best seafood restaurant in the country named Rudy's on the corner. The first ones to serve me since 1979. I used to walk up there on Monday night football, and I'd get a mug of Heineken and a bowl of Kalamati for fucking, and nobody said nothing. So shout out the Clipside Park and Rudy's. And they're open right now, man. And they're open right now.

And his date is Sunday through the window, passing that shit through the window. But it's funny. Our friendship started in 79. I didn't see you that much till then. Then something happened. You started dating a girl from North Bergen and I knew her boyfriend and I reached out to you. And I said, kind of warned me. Yeah, you don't want to mess with this fucking guy.

He's out of his mind. He's my brother. I love him the guy. That's why I didn't want. And I could have got his ear. I could have told him, don't worry about it. The chicks are fucking dirty animal anyway.

But I didn't see you. I didn't see you for years. And one day I'm casing out of joint up in Englewood. It was an angle or angle with clips. Tentafly. Tentafly. I'm casing out of warehouse up in Tentafly. I hadn't seen you in four or five years.

And I'm looking at this lot. Probably not. Jimmy, I think it probably about three years. Three years probably because it was like 83, 82 around there. And then here it was probably March of

85. I'm minding my business. I'm trying to walk down the street very nonchalant because of those days there was no cameras. And I see you raking leaves. Yeah. And I go, George, Joey, and we start talking, we connect.

I tell you, I'm living in a hotel in T-NAC or whatever the fuck. I think I was leaving. We were living with Mr. T. At that time, still? No, no, no, no, no. No, I don't. I had just left them, and I was in a hotel on a day-to-day type basis, and I did something.

I got nailed for all possession of stolen jewelry on 185th Street. So they gave me to Fort Lee, and Fort Lee didn't know what to do with me. So Fort Lee said, you got a warrant in Burr. County from 1981 for not showing up to court so I never forget that they took me

to the fucking thing I asked the driver to stop the chance dragging in because I hadn't eaten all day they arrested me at 2 o'clock they held me in New York until about 6 then at 6 they were like just

I don't we don't know what to do with them so Port Authority brought me over the fucking bridge they saved me to dollar in a quarter and you know that was the end of that I went to Burden County Jail court was like a 10 o'clock at night

and it was late it was late court and I remember they made me sit handc up to a guy that had blood coming out of his fucking head they didn't give a fuck at that time it was 10 o'clock court and the judge said make arrangement to pay the fine

and you got to call somebody to be released and it just so happened I had seen you that day. That day or the thing after it was like that day. It was that fucking day because I had your numbers still in my pocket written in pencils. And I go, I don't know who to call. I got one person to call and I called you and you miraculously picked up the phone. And you said, where are you? I told you.

You go, I'll pick you up. Now, when you came to pick me up, I had the intention of you were going to feed me. And then we were going to get high. I was going to go to a hotel I was staying at on Route 4. Because I had stayed at all those Route 4 hotels. I would stay at one and get into an argument with the Hindu and then move to the other way. And then you came that night and you go, no, you're not going back to the hotel. My mom said you come stay with us.

And I was just in shock, George. I remember walking in your grandmother, your mom, your sister. And I'm like, what am I doing? In those days, your mom had the big bedroom. You had the little bedroom, and I had the little corner on the floor. And it's funny. I had yet. You said the first thing I do is put my balls in your face.

You said the first thing I did was to put my balls in your face. I do not remember those things. That was the first couple day. Yeah, I woke up and you were fucking howling. I usually don't like putting my balls on people's faces when I first meet them. Oh, shit. But you said something the other day that I woke up. was really funny we're talking you go

I bailed you out of jail in the first three weeks what did I do the first three weeks out of jail let's see well the ball incident it was I was like pre-tee bag I needed to get a name for it back then but you fucking were dying and I'm still fucking have nightmares then my one of my ex-roommates

we did a drive by you like you live there is he home no you went in slipped in the window I just didn't like the dude. I didn't like the way he had spoken to you in front of me. In those days, if I didn't like you, and the timing was right, I was going to rob you. Just for not liking you, I was just going to rob you.

And something happened that there was some beef between you and him, and I'll never forget you were like, yeah, he lives right there. He lived close to the Fairview border on Kennedy Boulevard, across the street from the Palmer's restaurant. And I remember just knocking on the door, nobody answered. I went around the side. I crawled into a window, and I came out with a pair of speakers and a check. Alpine stereo and some type of like hardcore check.

Like it was for nothing. It was for peanuts. 400 or something. Yeah, but I remember we were like, oh, we only got a stereo. I go, what are you talking about? I cast his check like nothing. We went over to this bank. We knew the teller.

He didn't need no ID. We cashed the check and that was the end of that. Nobody's fucking feelings got hurt. No, when we went to cash that in the city. No, we went to pass that check on 70th and Bergen line. There used to be a Hudson County United Bank there. This is how old my Jimmy runs. You know what I'm saying?

That same guy used to lend you from the vault on Fridays. if you went to him because it was 1984, 85. So if you go to him on a Friday, he worked in a bank, ladies and gentlemen, and he's still alive. If you went, if you needed money to buy

a kilo Coke on a Friday, and you had the customers already lined up, you went to him on a Friday at 3 o'clock and you said, I need to take 25,000 out of the safe. He would give you,

whosoever money it was. He didn't give a fuck. Could be Lisa and retirement fund. It could be Gigi Montus. And he would give you the 25, but you would have to give him back 32 on Monday at 9. Not Tuesday at 9, not Monday night at 9. He had to have the $32,000 in cash in bundles.

The whole thing counted because it was going right to the safe. That's how kinky life was back then. when I first started hanging out with you. But I think that... Go ahead. And then you turn me on to my first Buffalo wing. I never had a Buffalo wing. I didn't like those little fucking guys.

I had no idea. So we went to the ground round. And Englewood. Englewood. Anglewood Clare, so I'm 9W. So we go in there and we eat and fucking drink. You know, have a good time. He's like, you know, I'll worry about my treat.

So the waitress is the girl. I went to kindergarten. I mean, I know it's all through school. I think I would third grade we were, we went out here to build third fake romance and then we walk out of there he's got the bill

in his hand. I'm like the first dying, my first dining dash. I had no fucking idea what it was. No. I'm freaking out. He's laughing. We're laughing. I'm like, I know how. He goes, ah, so like about her.

Two weeks later, we go back there, I go, you got the money. I got the money. Don't worry about it. We do it again. She didn't remember. So now all of a sudden, Coco goes and talks to the manager for like 10 minutes. He's at the register with the manager with the bill in his hand. I walk out, he comes back.

He's fucking, he's got the bill again two times within two weeks. I haven't seen her since. I have not seen her since. I used to go to the ground around every time. time I was hungry because I didn't have to pay. I had it down to a science. I'd walk in, get a bowl of food. I'd talk to the managers. It was like I knew him. I always had enough to tip. So I'd pay the $5 tip. Even though the bill was 28, I'd leave five or six. I always had the money to tip so they would never suspect me, not like I was leaving the tip. And then I'd walk to the gate. Always money on the table.

Then I'd go to the thing, mingle, talk to the manager. I love the suit he had on and then I walk out. The reason why I talked to the manager is because if he said to me, he didn't pay, at least I could have said, hey, I got caught up in the conversation. It happens. Is that one of the ones where you can pay on the way out? Yeah. Yeah.

So you pay on the way out. You could do it. You could leave it on the table. You can pay the waitress, so you can pay on the way out. I would go up to the manager. Go, hey, George, how you don't get my hugging? and he was, all right, go pay. And I would just walk past the waitress.

It was a very trusting, very trusting atmosphere back then. Everybody trusted everyone. When I lived with you in 85, that run, believe it or not, do you know I didn't do any drugs? I was just smoking pot. That was earlier. You're talking 80. I'm talking 85.

I wasn't doing Coke. I was just stealing, living with you, and just trying to figure out what my next. move of. I was trying to get to Colorado. So I got a job working for a masonry guy in Cliffside Park. He only said one word

in English. Morta. Mortar. That's all he ever said. Mortar. Mortar. And I worked for him for about a month and a half. And then we did a stairway to a house next door to like a house that was kind of loose. And I went back

that Friday night and robbed the house and then I didn't show up back to work Friday because they were going to blame me anyway I never heard from them and then I went to work for this this guy named J. H.A.'s construction real fucking redneck white piece of shit from

Fairview. He would meet me at a dine and not buy me breakfast. Then he wouldn't pay me for windshield time. He was a real scotch. He would fucking he would fucking, you know, bounce checks on me and whatnot.

And one weekend he gave me like a check that was light. Like the motherfucker gave me a check that was like, I owe you for 40 hours, but I'm only going to give you for 35 because that's the way life is. And he goes, I'm going down the shore with my wife.

We're going on a boat to hang out with the fucking Rockefellas. I'm like, really, bitch, perfect. You just told me you're not going to be home all weekend. So he wasn't gone 10 minutes. I told you I'll be back in an hour. I went up there, I kicked this fucking door down.

I took whatever cash he had, but on the way out at the bar, he had a big bottle of Don Parignon. Not the regular bottles of Don Perignon, but the big... The Magnum. I still remember walking like a Puerto Rican down the street and fucking Leonia

with a bottle of Dom Perignon in my hand. I had the case. So we could sell it, but I went back to the house and it was you and I It was late It was like 930 And grandma

I'd just come back from Bingo When I moved in with George I also had the pleasure Of him introducing his grandmother And his mother to me Who had now became my pseudo Mother and grandmother And it was really weird

About that time we went It was Easter Sunday And we went to Oolias In the Union City And I got Because when I left to live with you in Clipside. Clipside is only 10 minutes from North Bergen.

But to North Bergen, people, it's a world away. Oh, I was afraid of North Bergen growing up. Right, yeah. Like, when we play baseball, we would play, you know, I don't think I played against you in grammar school basketball, in eighth grade. Well, we played Lincoln. We played, we didn't play McKinnell.

I think we played Robert Fulton and three games, which we won against all you, North Bergen, Malthus. But when we played baseball or football, we had to go to 64th Street. It was a war zone, though. We've got a show in two weeks. We got a show in two weeks just dedicated to 64th Street. Oh, my God. So I quit that job with JHS.

And in the daytime, I used to get to, I used to get, In those days, you worked for your mother, And Diamo. And we all had somewhere to go to about 5 o'clock. And in those days, I was just a dreamer. I would walk the streets and dream of me being on the boat with bitches, me getting my dick sucked, you know, on a yacht with Miami Vice. But I just didn't know how I was going to do it. I was so lost, George.

You and I were young kids, and we were just, You had that Camaro that always got fucking cold, the firebird. We just had no FIRE board. We just had no answers.

Like we had no fucking answers, you know? So the only answer I had, if I wasn't going to sell Coke or whatever, I figured out a way when I was staying at the hotels to go into

gas stations that had a help wanted sign and I would apply for a job. I wouldn't apply for 8 to 4. Everybody wants to work 8 to 4. Nobody really wants to work four to twelve but nobody wants to work 12 to 8

so I would start off with the 12 to 4 the 4 to 12 I'd say can I come in here and work 4 to 12 perfect they had been looking for somebody for so long they wouldn't even check my references no one did you got you got a job

from the newspaper from the news you showed up there or you called they don't ask for ID it was it was a fucking different world I had a guy at a gas station that, our dear friend, he had a list of people he had fired from that gas station for stealing. So I told him to give me the names of the people he had fired from that gas station for stealing. And I would apply under those names into the gas stations.

And they would hire me as, let's say, Steve Lansky. Now, for people who don't know in New Jersey and Oregon are the only states where they pump gas, the guy has to come out, look you in the face and go, what do you want? And you're like, let me get $12,0.50 a regular and they pump gas. Well, I figured out, what if I got a job at a gas station, pumped the gas, but never paid for the gas? Kept the money in my pocket. And when you got a job, they told you for you not to get robbed, you should be safe. and dump every time you get $1,000. So you were supposed to,

they would give you an envelope every hour. You were supposed to put the money in there and then dumping in a hole. And then when the manager comes in there, he pulls all the cash out. I decided that I were only going to put $20 bills in those envelopes and throw them in. I'd stock up.

I'd wait until I had two or three grand. And then I'd walk off the gas station site. It's not really robbery. 15 minutes. 15 minutes before we leave, right. Before the next guy. Before the next guy.

I wouldn't even make it. Like if I went to work at from 4 to 12, by 8 o'clock, I would have $3,000 already. I would hustle. I would get, even if it wasn't my island, I would go to the full service island. I was hustling tips. And I was a good employee.

You know, if you looked at me from the outside, you're like, man, this guy works. Little did they know that. you know, I was going to walk off the lot. So the first two times I did it, I just like walked off the lot, jumped over a few yards, got to a different street, and saw a cab driver and got in and left. I just had this luck that kept happening to me.

Another night I got thrown out of the one hotel, I get there and my luggage is in the front thing. And I go, what are you doing? He goes, ah, you're supposed to pay by at 12 o'clock. I go, bro, I told you I was coming back. It's late. It's 4 o'clock. So he goes,

You're out anyway, but he didn't give me the key back. He didn't ask me for my key back. I'm never to forget this, George. I got $30 on my pocket. I got enough to pay for the fucking hotel room and maybe a bag of chips from the fucking hallway. And I go to a hotel room with the key that he gave me just to see if I had left anything in there.

And when I open the door, I hear sucking and fucking in the room. Some guy's fucking a chick in the shower. And I looked down and the guy's wallet is there with his pants pocket and like a fucking envelope. I took the wallet and the envelope and I just told him, do you're right? I'll never come back to this hotel again. He's like, get out of fuck you. And I ran out of there.

I found the cab. I jumped in the cab. He took me over the city. I sat in the city. I walked around with luggage. I went to 181st Street. I bought like 10 nickel bags. And then I went back to Port.

authority took a bus and they dropped me off of the hotel where they kill Vito. You know the hotel where they killed Vito and the Sopranos and that hotel? That's right there. They just redid it. They just redid that hotel for that scene. But that hotel is a dump. It's right there on the other side as I'm going into Jersey, not going into New York City. Right, right.

So I stayed in there. And then there was the first time when I opened up, I realized, I had three or four grand and I'm like, wow, this seems like a great scam to do. But I wasn't no smarter than you. I was the dumbest kid on the block. I didn't go to TNEC the next day. I went to the gas station two doors down because on Route 4 right there, there's like eight gas stations. Then you would hit the Grand Union and we would get that nice lobster.

Remember that they had the cream of lobster soup right there by the Grand Union. There was another hotel in there next to the Grand Union. The sky view. I used to live in those hotels. And people were looking for me to kill me. I would stay in those hotels. They couldn't fucking find me. So one day, I actually just kept getting hold.

I kept, I mean, George, it was the dumbest thing. It's like I would go from your shop where it is located, two gas stations down and do the same scam. And I did it to about six of the eight gas stations. And then I had to think globally. You know what I'm saying? I can't fucking keep robbing locally. So I started going out to different places.

There was a place by like Fort Lee. It was a golf station. And by that time, me and you were tight. You don't know I'm robbing gas stations. This was by Lisa Messinais. There's that golf right there down by her house. Yes. And I said to you, meet me there.

I think my shift started at four. No, no Yes Me and you When you called me You were at Vince Lamberti No Let me tell you what happened

That Vince Lombardi I almost got The reason I called you from Vince Lombardi Was because They were on to me But Vince Lombardi The bus had like 20 buses that were leaving

At one shot It was a parking ride Vince Lombie was probably The last one I did The last two I did Because I got in a bus and two minutes after I got in the bus,

the cops came with their lights on. So I'm like, God damn it, they're going to get me. And I'm on this bus. And finally, they let like three buses go. And then they started emptying the buses after that to see if I was on those buses. I was already on my way to New York. I just called you to give you a good, good bye.

Like, I love you in case they catch me. So, but the one I used with you was the Gaul station. I called and I said pick me up at this place at 7.30 and you were there all happy, Georgie, with the fucking car revving up. Gun, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung, gung. And I get it and I go, step on it. You're like, step on it. What do you mean step on it?

I just robbed the gas station. You're like, well, thanks for giving me fucking warning. You know, at least I would fucking know if he gave me warning and shit like that. It was no hesitation because I didn't know. You didn't know. So I used you like on two of those that you didn't. even know. You were just driving around here I am, fucking throwing envelopes

out the fucking window. And I remember one time we went to a party, we went to like a bar or something, but the most, because I didn't hang out with you, George, I didn't go out at night. If you think like, I put you around like, to meet Sammy. Yeah,

if you think of 85, I didn't go out at night. I used to go to the city, get a bag of reefer, get a Carvel shake on the way back. I, and And I always had a job. Even when you were doing those at night, you were doing something during the day.

You always had a job. Yeah. You always had. I always had some type of action going. And then I remember waiting. I had sued a guy. Me and Cy Lawrence had sued some fucking guy. And that May, they called me.

Cy Lawrence got a hold of me. I don't know how the fuck got a hold of me. And he, because I wasn't allowed to North Bergen. so I had a tip door around North Bergen I could take the Bergen line bus but I could not go into North Bergen I couldn't let there was still Michael Jewelers they're still looking for it I had Michael's jewelers my godfather three Cubans I had I had maybe five people looking for me

so I I'll never think here I am the son of a cop Yeah, you didn't. Auburn in a future. You didn't even know, but the cops weren't looking for me. No, no cops looking for it. I was really tight with the chief of police in North Bergen at the time. So I called them on a weekly just to say anything pop up because every week I was getting accused of something.

And here I wasn't even living in North Bergen no more. So now I knew it was like a running joke between me and him. His name was Mr. Bazzaco. So I remember that one night, I had found out that I was getting that check for like $1,800, and I could finally go to Colorado. And you and I, you had plans for Saturday. You were doing something Sunday with Sandra.

You were right over there. You were doing something with Sandra on Sunday. And that Friday, I robbed a gas station or that, Thursday. I did a gas station. And you and I ended up in a club with Mike Ascleese The Red Parrot. The Red Parrot and the Eurythmics

were there. They weren't performing. She was just there with the guitar player hanging out. That place was crazy. That place was crazy. The host that we got in for free. We got tickets was always one of my mother's customers. It was something real.

It was like a hot club in New York. We got a friggin' wall parrot on a shoulder. A stuffed pot. And then we went. And then you had a something on Saturday. So in those days, I was still getting credit cards. And I took Marilu and Lubbs shopping at the Paramus Mall. Like get whatever you want, gold chains, jackets, whatever the fuck you want.

I remember I owed your mother money. I left it for her in a draw. she was doing something. I think I only got to say goodbye to grandma that I didn't see you. 85 I didn't see you. Kept in touch of you on the phone. Yeah.

Then when did we reconnect in Colorado? Before you move to Colorado, you just came out to Colorado to visit me. And Aspen. No, we were talking. I was working now. You know, my mom's place, I didn't make a lot of money.

I was like just learning how to frame. pictures and shit. So, you know, to make more money, I got a real job. I learned to trade a little more. So I worked this job. I got, like, my first paid vacation, you know? So I, all right,

he's what I'm going to do in July. I'm going to go visit you. You were in snowmass. Spend a few days there. Then I was going to go to Scottsdale, Arizona, visit this girl, Karen, that I went to school with, that moved out there with a family.

Family, we had been, you know, got to remember back then, no cell phones, no computer. You called somebody on a Thursday night at 10 o'clock, and it cost you, you know, 15 bucks to talk on the phone to someone long distance. Plan this big trip. I'm going to go there, there, shoot home, great vacation. So we head out to a visit you with Snowman's, and you got this great scam because your house sitting. He took over for who to me? Burkle. Jimmy Berkel.

Burkle. So, God rest of the plane. We're driving. There's, like, branches all over the place. Beautiful. I think you and Carl pick me up.

Right? Was that his name, Carl? Carl Hall, on the North Carolina. He got. I remember seeing these, like, cows on the side. I'm like, man, look at them dogs.

Big dogs. We wound up going, And so you're a house sitting. So you've got a little like apartment sort of connected to some huge, huge house. Now, snowmast is like where Aspen is. It's, you know, big money, big, big money. But you're in the main house because the people never come there. Right.

You got to run in the big house. I'm living like a doctor in the house. You're living like a doctor. Kathy King, you know, we're eating great. Where they, you got, you know, everything is set up the way you, you're, you want you're running out town and uh so i spent a couple days and that's like the beginning of the end because that one night i remember you rolled this joint we had Arkansas homegrown it was cryovacs now we're talking 85 85 mid 85 summer cry of that homegrown it was like sense it was

tremendous. So you took that weed and you cooked a half gram of a blow and then this was the beginning of like you know, freebase. Bazuas. They made a bazooka. I called it a fucking bassook.

We were calling them bazookas. And that night I looked outside. My bedroom at a guest room had a door that was like on a mountain side. And I just looked in The sky was purple and blue. I've never seen anything like.

It was beautiful. The house is gorgeous. So then that's it. Packed it up. I went to Arizona. The girl I've been talking to for a year, that week, she started going out with the linebacker on Arizona State. So that you picked me up from the airport.

So that trip was fucking dead. So I think I shot back for a couple of days. I went to L.A., went to L.A., went to. by you and that's how we connect it again you know it's funny for people don't know the bazooka like in the early 80s it was free base and everybody who

you know no uh you couldn't just snort the coke not you can't just fucking snort it now I got to fucking cook it and put it through a silk scarf and then wait for it to dry what a fucking process what only white people could do something like that

That's what white people do. Add fucking bullshit to bullshit. So then they started a different thing. When the time I got to North Bergen in 84, when I made my mistake and came back to lurk for a year, our mutual friend Raygo got me into bazookas. And bazookas was you got a coffee cup, you put three fingers of water in it.

You put three-tenths of a gram of baking soda. And you put a gram of coconut. And then you put it in a microwave, closed the door, set it at 24 seconds. And when you heard, bing, that's it. You took it out. A little boulder would be in the thing. You took it out, you put it on like a piece of paper, and then you crushed it, and you rolled it into a fucking joint, or you dipped it into a marlboro red, and you watch your eyeball pop out.

And it started with one, 10. I remember then we melted a ball. I saw the devil that night. So now you go back to, now you stay with me in Aspen for about a week. Yeah. And you go back to New Jersey. What happens in New Jersey?

Well, let's see. I think I learned how to cook Coke. Yeah, because it was 85 still. It was 85. I'm back and everybody's getting hot. and stuff. But guess what? I know how to cook it. So I'm the most popular guy around because I don't have to spend a dime. They just invite me over and I'm like the official cooker. So I'm working for my mom. I'm working at this other place. And, you know, in the weekends,

Jesus Christ, we were just, Klessai was booming. Everybody was selling drugs. Everybody was getting high. Yeah, everybody was. Everybody was. Everybody. Everybody was going to call. Everybody. So, you know, we got into that. So now, in the meantime, I had taken the police test.

My dad, my dad was a cop, an honest cop, a good cop, good guy. And I took the test. And I passed everything. And all of a sudden, it's coming down to where,

you know I gotta take the psych test and I'm in I just couldn't be a cup I just you know I just wasn't in my DNA my dad was but

you know so did you take the test did you take the site test? Was that? Did you take the site test? No I don't know I can't pass the psych test now you think I could back then

I mean I'm fucking nuts but I didn't want to be a con. I didn't want to be a con. I don't know what I wanted to be. I don't know. Like a firefighter or a, they didn't want to be a quarterback. I don't know.

Who the fuck knows? But, so you had moved to bowl. And you're like, you know what? Why don't you just come out here? You and Kathy moved from, from Snowmash or whatever happened over there. So I'm like, you know what? Fuck it.

I think I was living in Hoboken for that year. When I came back, I moved the Holbo. I was living in a sublet. Tremendous. It was a great time, had a lot of fun. But it was time to go. So I moved to Boulder with you. I moved to, you know, it was right after the Giants won the Super Bowl,

after they beat the Mighty Broncos. I got off that plane with a giant shirt. and they broke my balls and the second I got there. So you got there like maybe March or February of 87. 87. Yeah, I guess it was 87.

Yeah. What was your impression of me at that time? How did I appear to you in 87? Like, I remember you fell asleep at the airport because you ate a bunch of Xanaxes or Valiums. You had to bring me. me a Cuban sandwich. This is what happened.

Yeah. It was a fucking nightmare. You told me grab some, some, drink some stuff with you. So whatever money I had, I don't know,

maybe had a thousand dollars on me when I went out there. I spent like four on blow. So I took, it was USA. Remember USA? US? So to go to Denver from Newark,

you had to stop in Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh connection. You also got to remember airports back then. had lockers, like a school locker. You put a quarter in, you turn the thing, you took the key. So I'm all paranoid.

I'm high, you know. I got like two hours layover in Pittsburgh, and I start hitting the package. I don't know where I was, but I didn't make the first flight. So now I got to call you. So now, before I left, he said, bring me a Cuban sandwich.

So I'm thinking, hey, I stop at 47th Street on the way to the airport, boom, boom. I tell them, you know what, don't cook it. Just give me the Cuban sandwich without pressing. I put that in my suitcase, my carry-on bag. So I'm stuck in Pittsburgh. I miss like three flights in Pittsburgh. I was there about 20 hours.

It was two days. I just kept going to the airport to pick you up. No fucking George. No. Two days. So now I get on the plane to a freaking golf. There wasn't cell phones. That you could say pick me up at Terminal E.

You just drove around. You didn't even have an answering machine. I think I called to one of your roommates. Nothing. So all of a sudden, I'm about an hour from Denver, and I smell this fucking foul smell. I'm like, what the hell? Because I was passed out on the plane.

It's the frigging cheese that I've had in my bag for like 20 hours. So they didn't put it in the press, but it had already changed form just by the molecules in the air and so this thing stinks everybody in the plane is like what the fuck so I get off the plane you pick me up you're laughing

you're light a joint I go listen I got this sandwich I go I don't know so it was me I wouldn't eat it you like ripped it out of my hands I'm like it's not cooked yet you fucking ate that sandwich in the parking lot I was living involved with that fucking nasty food.

That vasty vegetarian shit. I would have killed for a fucking sandwich. I got nightmares about that Cuban sandwich. Still, a bit attacking me. So that was it. So he drives me to his frigging new place. You know,

he's got like two roommates. I think it was two or three. Well, I was a couple in one room. The chubby red hat chick. The chubby bro. The chubby red. And they had a cat.

They had a cat. And just had kittens. Coco had a dog, Hercules. He was Labador? He was a shepherd mix. Shepherd. I mean, the greatest dog ever. Hercules.

I'm in there and there's kittens. Coco, I didn't even know he could juggle. But he's juggling three kittens. He's cock-catching kittens. All of a sudden, he goes, watch this. He throws one. kitten, Hercules is like this. Catches the kitten.

And I'm like, he just killed a kitten. No, Hercules didn't use the teeth. Soft. His mouth was like Jerry Rice's hands. You know what I'm saying? He just soft. Caught the kitten, put it down. He was ready for another. He's like, come on, Dad. Do it.

So I think I stayed there like two days or something because you were just moving out. We had a spare bed, one of the guys thought he was like a fucking entrepreneur that's when the word entrepreneur came out and he's like I don't want a day job I want to get an entrepreneur so he would wake up

every morning and go to fucking talk to those people, toastmasters and he'd come back like as I was leaving to go to work he'd be coming back and I was selling cars at a place called Hollister Dodge Hollister Dodge.

Yeah, Hollister Dodge Chrysler Plymouth. Chrysler. Chrysler Plymouth. So before George comes out, I ask them, can George get a job as a lot man? They go, does he have a license? I said, yes, so we get him a job as a lot, man. We're there at that South Boulder apartment, maybe two weeks, right?

We got a great house in South Boulder. It was $4.50 a week, two bedrooms. $4.50 a month. A month, I mean, sorry. Before the fucking the job, we stayed at that house for maybe two weeks at the other house with those people. It wasn't long. It wasn't long. I had a little affair with the red-headed chick.

Yeah. I like to. She had big red tits. There was one couple. There was a couple. The chick was hot with a boyfriend. They were like, they didn't leave each other. Towards the garage.

He banged tall one night. You banged tall one night. She slipped out of his room. Towards the garage. and then there was a chubby red chick that I loved to death. I used to buy weight from her. But when she would get coked out, she would want to suck dick,

and her boyfriend would pass out. So I'd bring her over to my room and we'd swap spit. She's a family on the printing shop. She was rich because they own the printing shop. I still remember that. But that was a wild apartment we had. I remember the first party we had there. I ate a bunch of codeines.

I just woke up really sick Like I realized that day I couldn't take codeine Or pills of that nature I never took another fucking codeine pill again But that was a weird We lived with Four people

You stayed in the one guy's bedroom While he was gone You know I'm working at this car place I gotta say I'm 25 years old I don't have any direction. George comes out. He's got no fucking direction.

The only thing we had between us was love. We had nothing else. And all of a sudden, we start booming a little bit. George. So remember I started working at that the West End Cafe. The Western Tavern. You started working

at the Western Tavern. Yeah, Pearl Street. As a dishwasher or something. But full-time, you worked on a lot. And you would get around town because you would steal cars from the lot and take the license plates. Borrow the cars. You would. I was in charge of all this is about my job.

I was in charge of shuttling the cars around, different spot to spot, and gassing them all up. And again, I'm from Jersey. Joey, Joey was telling you about, you know, pumping gas. Colorado, you got to pump your own gas. Well, for the first month of that job, I didn't because I never did. So they get a bill. They call me in after the first month of working there.

Say, what the hell's going on? I go, what are you talking about? He goes, you know, our monthly gas budget, you know, you're old 25% over what we normally pay. I'm like, that's odd. They're like, you do know you're supposed to pump your own gas, right? I'm like, uh, no. So they fucking already I'm on the radar.

And it would have fired me right there if it wasn't for you because they loved you. Are you going into full service? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You were going to full service. And then I taught you that what you do is when people give you a receipt for gas, like they'll go, Lee Syatt, George is here to drive a car, the test drive a car. I would go, Lee, here's a $10 gas receipt.

You ain't putting that debt in the fucking car. You're going to save that. You're going to drive that car on me. Right. You're going to go to the back. can have service give you another gas slip. And then now you save up on gas slips. So George was, we were saving up on gas lips.

That was going into our car. You were the gas station guy. You could say put 15 or give me a, you know, a receipt of 25. And they would do it. And they would do it. So it was a complete different world. We were making money on the lot.

Then George figured out you can rent cars to people from the lot and fucking use the dealer. plates. No. This is, you can't eat this shit. I had to work. I had to work one time on New Year's Eve at the,

at the, at the, uh, west, west side cabin. And, uh, it was fought.

We lived in South Boulder. So it was like, uh, four or five miles. And it was snowing. So I went into the office. I'm like, listen,

can I borrow a car tonight? I said, I got to work and, you know, I'm not drinking or anything. and the manager that was my manager

he was a young guy the girl's name he had a girl's name I don't know the girl's name I remember we had Roberto like Lynn like a guy named Lynn or something Darrell was a crazy Vietnam vet

yeah or Darrell Jones Darrell Jones is the crazy Vietnam vet same way they give me like an old Mazda pickup truck to take for the day they give me the plate

they're like just bring this back when you come back. So what happened was I'm like well if I stay late at work and everybody leaves I got all the keys I can take whatever car I want home and then just get it back and park it in the back in a lot. So what happened was that the owner the manager said to me after I took a car home you called me up and go listen I'm going to pick you up because I want you to do something with me and I'm like oh shit so I had to take the truck that I brought home and hide it around the corner then this guy drove me to work so now I got a truck out at the house you know they got 48 I don't know what I got 200 cars there

what's the odds of them trying to sell that fucking blue truck brand new ram truck well guess what somebody wanted to buy that brand new truck and they couldn't find it that happened a lot Oh, my God. That happened a fucking lot. But we had, and then what happened was, you worked at the Dodge store. I worked at the Chrysler store. The Dodge store, the owners are in there watching you.

So it was kind of weird. But even then, the Chrysler store, we were running amok. There was four salesmen and one manager. And I left Subaru for peace of mind. I was at Subaru and I was at Douglas Toyota and I had been at all these car dealers where it's stressful. It's like you're not stopping. You're going to make money at the end of the month.

You're going to make $8 or $9,000 in 1988. That was a lot of money, 87. Yeah. That was a lot of money. But at small dealerships, you made $3,000 and you did what you wanted. You got a demo. You went to the movies. You went to the demo.

And then we just went on a tear. Like George and I, it started like in July. And we just, we had not the dealership intact, but we had the whole community intact. There was a mall across the street of the Boulder. Table Mason? No, something Mason Mall. And I never forget.

They had a thing called Things Remedy. A store called Things Remembered. And anytime I needed money, I would walk in and ask the girl where the pens at? The cross pens. All the cross pens. And she would open the thing for me and walk away. And I would steal 10 cross pens, walk them across the street, and sell the cross pens to the salesmen. People would give me orders.

I would go from dealership to dealership. and people go, hey, what happened to that silver cross cross pen? So now I would have you on a list. So next time I went in there, I would have to steal a gross pen. It was just a horrid, hard existence. The manager at the crisis store sold cocaine.

Okay? Listen to me. And a couple of sales, John Roberto. What was his name? Joe Roberto, something, Roberto. Jim Roberto? Jim Roberto was the guy. the Chrysler store, the guy

at the Dodge store, the guy at the Chrysler, his name was Ardy Presler. Great guy, Artie. Great guy, great salesman, big-time Jew out of the Bronx, six-foot-six, big, but he could fucking sell.

He took me under his wing, and I became his protege, and he taught me how to fucking sell a car correctly, deposit, work it. I mean, He was just a good guy, but he sold Coke. So I went in the morning, and I would go, honey, let's cut a deal.

Let me get a gram of Coke on the arm. And he'd go already. And we would be snorting Coke in there at 11 in the morning. Customers would come on the lot. Not me. And there was, you guys. You were a detail. I was in a different part.

I was in. But at the same time, I had the keys to the soda machine. Keys to the soda machine. We had the newspaper, the bolder camera. We had about three of those machines, Jimmy. So we would open it up. We would get about $10 a day and quarters there. And then when you would unload the soda machine.

I would unload. I had the keys to the soda machine. And I called my ATM machine because the guy would leave the dollar bills in there. He would take the change out and put it into dollar bills. I don't know why till this day. So I would have to get there early to eat breakfast. I would have to open up my ATM machine, take some dollars out, and we'd eat breakfast at Jack in the box up to quarter.

They had something, a croissant. He had about 10 pounds of quarters in that little, what's that little thing, the armrest? Or that little fucking thing. Oh, my God, you have no fucking ideally. We used to have a guy that used to pick up George that got out of jail for Robin Banks. him and his He was robin bass And he used to pick up George

Him and his girlfriend Would pick George up every day And George would still be fucking late Yeah George would still be late Like George they're outside waiting on you She was very nice Nobody ever thought of fucking her

She was very nice What the fuck was her name? Short Sandy hair Yeah short sandy hair very sweet woman and she took care of the bank robber. He had just got out of jail. He was selling cars.

This place was a cast of carrie. This place was a cast of carrie. My favorite thing about it. Dale Jones, he was ready at any moment to just pull out an assault weapon. Dale Jones was still living in Vietnam. Hamburger Hill. And he would come into a room.

Yeah, he was in Hamburgger Hill. He would come into a room and go like this, make his hand slam back and forth. That meant he was selling the car. So he would come into a room, get on his hands and knees, and slam his hands back and forth. And then he'd go, watch me sell the car, baby. And he would do Coke.

And then whatever his name was, the manager, the good, the good, uh, George guy, Arty couldn't take us, uh, couldn't take us fucking, snorting coke no more. So he gave the Coke operation to a guy to Rob Dando.

Now Rob Dando, I made it my personal mission to just torture Rob Dane. He thought he was from the city. He was a great guy. He was a blue, he was a bass player. Like he was an old cat that got married. So why are you tortured? Now he had kids because there's more of the story.

You got to torture certain people. God puts certain people in your life for a reason. You think Jesus just popped up and just punches his pilot, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? It happens. So my goal with, one thing I could say

about, what was his name again? The salesman? Artie. Artie or Rob? Rob Dan, though. Yeah. One thing I could say about Rabdando is he could sell a fucking jar of hummus

to ISIS. He could sell you. He was brilliant. When he came into work, and once he did a blast of Coke, you were buying. He'd be sweating and fucking shaking his head, the whole thing. So I had a connection with him. He liked, he didn't like cross pens. He liked red the other ones, the ones with the arrow.

Uh-huh. All right, he liked those red ones. He said they were his lucky pens. His good luck, yeah, yeah. His good luck pens. So I would, he became like a three month. For three months, I made him. I think he even ended up going to an insane asylum

because he would cop an ounce of Coke, but he wasn't allowed to bring it home because of his wife and kids. So he would stash it in the ceiling. Up above the ceiling. Off above the ceiling. So I would get there at 6th of the morning. The guy from service ago, Joey, what are you doing this early?

I got to meet a customer. There's no customer. I would go in the ceiling, take Rob's Coke out, take Coke out of every package and put like Ascram powder in all the packages and sell it back and put it back in the ceiling like nothing happened. And then I let them come to work. I let them do a couple lines of Coke. I let them grab a customer.

I wouldn't, I didn't care if the customer was going to buy, I let Rob have him. Because that was going to turn into an eight-hour thing. Because in the process of Rob selling the car, I was going to steal his. his pen, his lucky red pen. So here he is, coked up. He has a car. He has a guy waiting to fucking sell him a car

and he would go up to Arnie Presler's desk with the worksheet and the pen and fill out the stuff. And then in his cocaine mind he would leave the pen on the counter, go back into the office. And that's when I would come and take the pen

okay and now he would come out and go where's my lucky red pen and ardy would go i don't know what you're talking about nobody would see it i would hide him in the back now for an hour this kid would not sell that car until he had a lucky red pen he would look under cars in the interior he would look in the demos the poor customers would be waiting and he'd tell them the customers go what are we doing here and he goes i can't say you the car well out my lucky red pen. I'd wait all the way to the end he was going to get

the people going to lose. And then I go, Rob, I got the next one in the car for you for 20 bucks. He'll give it to me right now. He'd give me like 10 bucks, whatever it was for the pen. But I just kept reselling them pens. Every time he had a customer.

Did you ever resell me a used pen? Oh, all the time. It was the pen I just stole from him. And I would just put it in a fake box. and take it out of the box in front of him. He never knew, like, I wouldn't have, it wouldn't even be sealed. I would just put the pen inside the slot and give him the box, and he would just crack shit. I told this story years ago, and he contacted me on Facebook, and I don't know it was you.

I went to therapy for years. My favorite part about all these stories is you guys opened it up with, you know, we were pretty good employees. Oh, no, no. And then there was a, there was a. And then he, George worked in partnership with this kid that was half retarded. Chris Miller or something like that. Chris Miller was a sales guy. And then that other dude.

But there was a young kid that was effort. He had glasses. That worked on my side. But he had a hot girlfriend. Oh, that little fucking dude. Yes. They had a hot girlfriend. And just before I left, he started, he became.

a Coke dealer. She worked there. And we set him up. We set him up completely. Like, I did a fucking something out of a movie. Like, I sold the car, but the car had to get picked up in Tucson, Arizona. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had to go get the car.

So he had to leave the keys to his house in the thing. So I went into his house smoothly, took the Coke, closed the door like nothing happened. He came back two days later. that was like the beginning of the end at Chrysler. That was it. Like that caused too much pain. People were crying.

I had the, there was another kid that was a nice white kid. That was Scott Miller. No, there was Scott Miller, but there was another very nice white guy that was losing his hair. That's the deal with the glasses.

He didn't do drugs. He was from the Dakotas. Oh, I don't know. Oh, wait. Who was the one? dude that the that was from his brother was a pilot right that put the fires out from the decodos from the dakotas and we used to find he couldn't get weed in the decodas so he would send these indians down to me on saturday to buy weed from dakotas so they i couldn't make much

profitable off the price why because i would only get the weed for like eight and i could only get a thousand out of them i don't know i'm just making up numbers that i wasn't isn't making a big profit margin. Yeah. So the only way I can make a big profit margin on them is, if I took out half the weed and took a spray bottle, and I would spray the weed until it was a little bit before drenched. And then I would put it all back, and I would keep an ounce. Seal it, and when they would come, they'd weigh it, and they'd go, it's 12 ounces.

By the time they got back to North Dakota, it was nine ounces, because the water weight would drop and I would take an ounce. I mean, what was going on at this time was just George was on his own tear. I was on my own tear. Oh shit. I forgot all about that story when I was fucking selling

weed to the Indians. That poor kid they would come down for like a pound of weed and I would take two ounces out and get a missed fine mist bottle and I would break it into two bags. So it would be like eight ounces in two bags to make 16 ounces. And I would spray them with water the buds.

And I would get it so it was perfect. Like if they got there later, I would have to respray it because it would fucking dehydrate or whatever the fuck. There you go. Out of respect from the Indians. There you go. So you know what I'm lying. Don't worry about it.

Oh, we're fine. So it was just really weird how I did that shit. You know, George lived with me. uh obviously before the kidnap and we're going to go into that in episode two but this was just i wanted you guys see where my head was at prior you know i was 25 years old i had no control i was i didn't give a fuck i mean when i started hanging out with george i was basically 22 when his family took me in. His family took me in, guys. Just side unseen. Like he bailed me out of Bergen County Jail, took me to the hotel room. I took the duffel bag I had. I had a duffel bag

in those days. And I went to his house and they treated me like family like I had known them for 20 years. I mean, how many people does that happen to? And there was Spanish, and I had been away from Spanish people for years. So for me, just to get back in that circle with them, it was so special. Like, they brought me back to reality. I was clean off Coke. I had gotten clean that January of 85, and I stayed with George till July of 85. Yes, I, I, I was, I worked and I robbed and I did everything. But I was sober. I had a purpose.

I had done a shoulder scam where I had fallen on my shoulder and I did some damage. And a friend of mine talked me into suing them and I sued them. So when they gave me partial payment and then another partial payment, like I told you guys, I've never been a type of guy that you have to look at. You never have to tell me when to leave. I know when it's time to leave Always have that gift That you know when it's time to exit

That you don't get exited And it was just time to leave And I loved George I had a place in this family I could have stayed there forever I had I really feel bad and guilty at times Because I probably had four

Or three sets of people That were really really looking To get a hold of me then And do some nasty shit to me And I in a way put them in danger but the people that were looking for me

didn't know how to maneuver their way out of North Perrigan. It's like when people leave all the mafia money, the mafia doesn't go to fucking Virginia to get you. They just play the odds. They know that you're going to come back

for something and they'll get you when you come back. I stayed clear in North Perkin. I didn't step foot in North Perrigan not even to let them know I was in the area. they all thought I was in fucking Southern New Jersey I would I would write letters and take rides out

to fucking Southern New Jersey and write letters to my friends so they thought I was staying down the shore meanwhile I was in their fucking backyard so always remember if you're going to hide from somebody hide right back in their backyard they won't even know you there I'm happy you motherfuckers listen today I told you I'm putting my friends on

that could tell you every fucking story. I'm not here to verify stories. I just want you guys to know what I was exposed to and how lucky I am. How many people would open up their homes to a 22 year old fucking loser who's just getting out of Bergen County Jail? Comedy was not even on my radar back then. If you notice, there was no talk of us even discussing comedy on our radar. It was straight up fucking being a savage. So I hope you got something out of the Monday morning podcast. What's up, Lee?

If you don't want to answer this, I'll just cut it out. But you've mentioned before how, like, when you were younger, because of the godfather, you wanted a brother. And then all these people did all this stuff for you. And you're very open with your house. I'm not saying you're not. But has any part of you ever thought about doing something like people did for you? Like, if Mercy had a friend who needed to come over?

Like, have you thought about that? when mercy before mercy was born if you remember that was our office yeah that was our two bedroom I got the bedroom

because I thought at my time that my niece was going to come to college out here so I got that bedroom for a niece it just so happened that I knocked my fucking wife up

okay and it became a bedroom for my daughter but in reality Yes, I always think that someday, before I die, my daughter's going to come home with a friend or somebody who's not in a good position. You know, in a couple weeks I'm going to have a different Julio Rodriguez on here, who he spoke about.

Julio was my friend in the fifth grade. I lived with Julio's family pretty much in the fifth grade, even though I had a mother and a dad and I had a house because my house was haunted. So I just go to the house at night and stay there and nobody said a word. You know, when I lived, when the runnies took me in, you know, when the benders took me in, they took me in. There was no paperwork to file. There was a kid who needed a place and they opened their home to me. When at my mother's wake, your villas came up to me and asked me,

do you want to live with us you know I've just always been that lucky that God took away my family but replaced it with a family you know July 1st this year I'm on my 20th anniversary

with my wife wow and the other day her and I were just laughing about the last 10 years like what's happened the last 10 years a kid a podcast a CD, touring, you know, this is really the first time we've had a chance to talk in the last 10 years, you know, since we got married on the 9th or the 10th or something.

The second 10 years is a lot different than the first. Yes, it is. And it's just really interesting how we're stronger now. Like this happened at a time when the family would get weak, the 20-year mark. It's making me and my wife stronger than we've ever been. and it's creeping over into my daughter. My daughter is starting to see this. So it's just like I told you people in the beginning of this horrible, horrible, horrible pandemic.

I knew it was going to be bad, but I don't know it was going to be this bad. And I didn't know that people were going to be dying in Florida and you weren't going to be allowed to go say goodbye to your loved ones and all this shit. But I also called something from the beginning of this podcast and from the beginning of this pandemic that there was going to be a silver lining to it. Yeah, you're probably going to lose your fucking job. But because of that, you and your girlfriend have become tighter,

or you and your brother become tighter. Or you and your mother become tighter. Or because of the pandemic, you realize that you learn how to draw and you're going to decide on drawing instead of going back to your fucking office job. there's going to be silver linings for everybody in all this and I hope you all get that from this I know you're all living in in time right now

and you're like going Joey how can you say this I haven't gotten a rent check in three weeks I haven't gotten my stimulus check I haven't gotten this but you got your fucking health and you got your mind and you got your soul and you got your fucking heart so that's a lot more a lot of other fucking people got so before you start worrying about what you don't have

Let's worry about what you do have and what you could do with it. And that's it and that's that. It's a fucking Monday on the fucking church, cocksuckers. And I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you got some laughs out of it. Like I say, this podcast is stories. Sometimes it turns into something serious. In the next couple of weeks, there might be a couple tears shed

because we're going to dig into some fucking topics from my youth. but whatever it is, we're always here for you. We know you're going through a good time. Before we end, remember this weekend, not even this weekend. Fucking Wednesday, you got UFC fights direct from Jacksonville. And Saturday, you got more fucking fights. So don't come to me and say you're not going to fucking cry. And I'm going to talk to my bookie, because we're going to start a whole new betting system here.

We're going to bet how many people got Corona last night. They started with three. You had Jacaray. You had fucking the two coaches. Somebody went home with Corona last night out of those people. There was no social distancing. I saw a lot of people taking their mask off. So I'm going for six.

If anybody put the bed in, we'll complete it. Let's talk to my bookie. How many people will get coronas at these UFC fights? All right, that's the bed of the fucking day. Anybody can pick a fight. What are you fucking retarded? Pick to see the silent killer. How many people are going to be?

get corona these UFC fights. That's the whole new thing. I'm starting a new webpage. No bet, and I don't give a fuck who wins between the Rams and the charges. How many people will get Corona at their game? What do you think the over-underers? Last night was six. That's six, okay.

Six, and you started with three. So, anyway, back to MyBooky. The UFC is back, and all the action is happening at mybooky.orgie. I know you watched fights last night, but there's fights Thursday. Day the 13th, and it's my man Anthony Smith against Tokshara, the fucking crazy guy. And then Saturday,

you got Overeem against Harris. Now, listen, you can be the house that everybody will be watching, and that my bookie has got the goods. Whether you want to bet on the over, the under, the submission, or knockout, they got everything, even a fucking ham sandwich. And now

they're going to add how many people are going to get Corona at each one of these events. They also got NBA 2K, NFL games on Madden, FIFA soccer, and NCAA brackets. And they got lines on soccer from all over the world. Belarus, Tyran, Nicaragua, Tyran. What the fuck? Taiwan, what the fuck is wrong with me?

Taiwan, Joey, Nicaragua, and Tajikistan. And if you live somewhere where there's urban people, there's always a good soccer game on some dead end street in your name, but you know what I'm saying? There's three Mexicans that they don't give a fuck about Corona, and they ain't wearing no mask either. You can bet on them too. That's a joke. Anyway, they got a full casino with human dealers,

and you're playing against real people. So do me a favor. Cut the shit. Head over to my bookie. Dotag slash Joey. Mybooky. dotag slash Joey and make some bets. Right now, they're going to give you 50,

percent of your initial deposit and bonus funds. You're like Joey what does that mean? That means if you deposit 500 they're going to give you 250 just like that. More money in your pocket to play with and more opportunity to win. We're talking

about winning here. Nobody's talking about losing. We're talking about making you some fucking money with your unemployment. You're going to invest your unemployment money and make a little fucking baccarusia. Okay, who's better than Uncle Joey? You bet you win you get paid. But it all starts at my bookie.ag slash Joey. Who's better than you? Nobody.

Right now, every fucking time I take an edible, I get COVID. So what I do now is I take fucking CBD and the pain goes away. Whatever body aches and pains I have, that's how I know. I don't have COVID. And you know what? CBD I use. CBD line. Why? Because, uh, They pay me to talk them? No. As a matter of fact, I found CBD line and reached out to them because I couldn't believe what their products did, whether it's the gummy bears, the tincture, I live off.

Last night I was getting a little bit of anxiety last night during the fights. And I said, maybe it's a little too early for fucking CBD. Boom, I blasted it. I was good for the fights. Lee, you see your two little flies that back. There's no flies here. That means you need a shower. They're right there.

The line. Right there. They've been lingering from out. They're like how it's my flies when they're near me. Well, they're coming for you. They're giving you a breather. They're social distancing flies. They know.

My control them when they're looking at you. So do me a favor. If you're looking for good CBD or don't get out of fucking gas station. Don't get at some 7-Eleven. And don't get at some Swami from Salami. Go to CBD lion.com right now. Look at their web page. Look at the professionalism.

Read their third-party lab. Before you invest in some fucking muckery, go to CBDline.com right now. Gummy bears, tinctures, balls to put in your bathtub, which are fucking fantastic. If I got none to do, I put because I can put my head, my feet up high at my head and my heart, and the swelling goes down if I walk a lot some days. Some days I go on a fucking walking spring, and I forget I'm 57 and I'm a fat fuck. I mean, listen, I love everything they got. the cream. When I get out of the shower, I rub it on my thighs. I'll show you my legs right now. They're

nice and smooth. No more alligator dead skin. I rub it on my balls. I rub it on my face. Listen, when it comes to CBD, CBD line is the way to go. Don't make me tell you that again. Okay? I want to thank CBDLion.com slash church and get 20% off delivered right to your house. They do not fuck around. The tinctures, the shatter, the vapor, they don't use the acetine. They don't use that vitamin E. The vapor pen is fucking tremendous. I live and die with CBD lion.com right now. They have proved me fucking, I mean, I take three of those cubes at night.

If I got a bad knee and I sleep like a fucking baby. Okay, so do what you need to do. Get away from that bad CBD you're going and go with CBD lion. com. I want to thank my bookie.ag slash joey and I want to thank cbdbuki.com. I also want to thank CBD lion. Cbd.lion.com. I also want to thank you motherfuckers for support in the podcast. We got no dates. I don't know when I'm going on the road again. Who gives a fuck? Everybody's breathing fucking dark smoke. Are you coming to Michigan? That's three months from now. Who the fuck knows? By that time the japs might bomb them with the Kawasaki disease. We might buy

We don't know what's going on. Every day there's a new story And you're bothering me Were you supposed to come to El Paso this weekend? Yeah, I'm going to fly in all the fucking huff and guff and guff The fucking comes to you in El Paso We pushed that to January, February Like I told you, get your money back

Don't worry about nothing God knows when this is coming back You motherfuckers over there sitting there With your $400. Raid you get some machine tickets Put some salt and pepper on them. Can you taste them? Then what good of them? Send those things back, cock sucker.

Anyway, it's Monday. Wash your pussy. This is for you to start the week off on the right leg. I hope you enjoyed Georgie Kaladinsky. Part 2 is Wednesday when we go through the kidnapping and how it affected him and how it affected me and the whole thing. I love you guys. Have a great day.

Stay black. Kick this motherfucker mule.