The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - Felony Flashbacks with Danny B

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

The legend, the soldier of the year, the North Bergen legend Danny B joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in person for the first time after multiple virtual visits during the LA years. They talk about ...Joey's recent obsession with Grand Theft Auto, why they are both thankful for their crazy upbringing, why the police being called didn't used to be a bad thing and so much more. SHOW NOTES Get 10% off your first month of BlueChew Gold w/ code JOEY @ ⁠http://BlueChew.com/⁠ Head to ⁠http://tryfum.com/CHURCH ⁠to get your free gift with purchase & start The Good Habit Today! 

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Kick this motherfucker, Neil Lee. What's happening, beautiful people. It's Tuesday, April 31st. The rent is due. The church of what's happening now, New Testament, is in full effect. I got my main man, Lee Syatt here, the cato of comedy, and I got my main dog, Danny Bioncula. We go back 40 years, so sit back, grab some popcorn, and make some notes.
Starting point is 00:00:28 And if you like, call an attorney and see what the fuck is going on today. What's up, Danny Vee? Your map is wrong. 40 years. It's more like 50 years, pal. It's 80 years and cocaine years. Dog life. I was going to say, you know.
Starting point is 00:00:44 40 years. This is really nice. It's great to be with you, pal. It's great to see you. And you came up, you saw the old neighbor. It looks like a fucking bono. I thought I needed a passport. They had my own neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:00:54 They had me fixed the fucking roads. I know. I know. I saw a pot holes. I saw a guy on a roof on a machete. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good. But it's where it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:01:01 find a parking spot. Motherfuck, it's what got us on the map. Dude, they told me they're renting Airbnb's now on my old neighborhood, 78 Street in Bergen, I believe it. Talking to the guy of, like, yeah, they go right into anything that's close to that fucking big apple and they don't have to pay those fucking prices in the city.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Don't keep somebody hit me up on Twitter. I'm in a hotel in North Bergen. Where do I get something to eat? I'm root fucking three. How's that? Oh, man, I tell you what, it's frightening now now. It's funny because the guy was talking to, He owns the eyeglass store there.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And he's like, yeah, so bad. They're renting out these things, Airbnbs. And the funny part is the North Bergen cops are always in the neighborhood collecting envelopes. I guess they're zoning illegally or whatever he was getting it. I don't know if it's true or not. So I'm just going by what the guy said
Starting point is 00:01:47 and he's zoned the store for 26 years. So I kind of believe him. It's funny because I only come up here on Mondays. Don't blame you. And I'm going to be as honest as I can with you. Every Monday is a psychological thriller. Because I go up a different block. Every fucking Monday.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Some Mondays I go up 76. Some Mondays I go up 80th. Some Mondays I go up 82nd Street. Whatever lets you go up, I take those rides just to see the town. And in your mind, you're just hearing felonies. Oh, I mugged somebody there. Flash facts.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I snorted coke in that building. We robbed that place as a kid. You know, I'd come up here with my daughter, and before we're on the Turnpike, and we're about to hit, you know, Route 46. And right there it says that, what's that fucking gas station I wrote?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Which one? Which one? Pick one. No, the big one, the one with the football coach. Lombardi. Like, I was driving past, and I probably saying, mercy, I almost rubbed. I said, fuck it, leave it. You rub the rest area?
Starting point is 00:02:46 The Lombardi gas station. They're like on the main turnpike? On the main turn. I think you were doing a small one. No, if you want to expend your envelope, that's where cars come in every. Oh, that one of your word. Cars come up every three seconds there. That's pretty busy.
Starting point is 00:02:59 That's really palsy. Actually, speaking of, flashbacks, I was showing my oldest son, Jaden, the bank, T.D. Bank, where Gary took down, that led him to prison for the final... The TV Bank was on 69th America? No, it's right by the White Castle's. If you pass the... He heading down Fabio Avenue. T.D. Bank there. No, shit. Robbed it with a butter knife. Don't you remember? I thought he robbed it with a fishing line.
Starting point is 00:03:18 He might have had that. No. Yeah, the fishing line. He took a deposit bag. Butter knife and a BB gun. So he fucking threw the fishing line down. This is in the 80s. They weren't hip to fucking North Bergen mentality. You just dropped the bag in there. And this motherfucker went in there like Jacques Cousteau.
Starting point is 00:03:37 With a fishing line, tagged out the bag, stopped the cab drive on Kennedy Boulevard and said, take me to Kennedy Airport. I should have never bought him that pocket fisherman. No, and then he got caught because he tipped the tip. He gave the guy like $200. Oh, he always rattled it on himself.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah, he ran on the self. I got on the kite and just, I can't take it to him. I'm calling Bodie. I'm going to turn myself in Jenner, I did it. you know, he lived on me for a bed and he'd be gone for like four hours. I'm like, where the fuck is he going?
Starting point is 00:04:04 What did he do? Then somebody knocking on the door. I'm paranoid. Like, what the fuck? And it's guy like, where the fuck were you? Oh, I was on the roof talking to Bodie and Jenner. And they're the cops. You know, the cops that busted me three.
Starting point is 00:04:15 They got me for a hat trick in one year, three times in the season. But I'll be like, so you were on a roof talking to Bodie, Jenner, and Corey. Those were the dirty detectives. So, yeah, he always ratted it on himself. Always got himself. into trouble, but his worst one was the TD bank. That's when the bag blew up. He had to die on him. No, no, no, no. That gets better. It's better. He's with another kid that's younger. The kid's young and they've both been up for two or three days. So they find the one kid in the
Starting point is 00:04:44 cemetery hiding, you know, behind a tombstone. His mother was the getaway driver. She died a couple of years later. That's why they didn't even bother prosecuting her. But Gary decided to hijack a truck, right? A car guy in a, and he don't know how to drive stick. So he crashed it. He crashed it. When you said he had die over him, was it on his face? It's all his wags and things. It was, you know, in some of those things blow up.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I've seen it in movies. I didn't see anyone actually get it. I remember. People blow up with that. Really? You can't take that ink off. No. Have you gotten hit put the dyes?
Starting point is 00:05:17 No. I never robbed the bank. No, that's out of my life. I don't know what else they put dyes in. You never had any sort of dye in anything? But smaller stuff. No. No.
Starting point is 00:05:27 No. But anyway, they found him hiding underneath the car with the blue legs. He was pale. And the only thing you saw was his little skinny legs shaking with the blue dye on it. And the rest is history. He's been locked up since then. That was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yeah. He started doing time in 91, got home in 97 for a cup of coffee, like six months, went back into 2012. He was on the podcast. Got back out for six. So out of the last 35 years, he's been locked up all but a year. Yeah. Yeah. Now they got him sedated in that Northern State by Newark, the airport.
Starting point is 00:06:03 That's where he's sitting. Then he heads for the feds for another 15 years after that. So it was like game over. You know, man, it was crazy like we lived by no rules, you know. Like for years, I lived by no rules. Cops didn't even bother me. When you said the cops are coming, we got this. You know, we'll hide for a few days.
Starting point is 00:06:24 We know all of them anyway. And they forget, you know. Once I got locked up, I knew one thing. That was not the way. Like, there is nothing that's worth them taking away your freedom. That's awful. Nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:37 You go and you fucking say, I'm never going to get in this position again. But I had a friend in L.A. in Colorado, the night I won the amateur contest, December 18, 1991, he got caught. My friend's nephew got caught, stealing a suitcase from Kentucky Fried Chicken. He went there to get a bucket of chicken and he saw the briefcase. And he took it. He went home and realized he had nothing in there but coupons for chicken.
Starting point is 00:07:06 But they caught him on the camera and they went to his house and pulled him out of the bed at two in the morning. You know that motherfucker just got out four years ago? Wow. And I said to him, I go, dog, he could have done a comedy career. He got arrested 91 and he just got out four fucking years ago. He was like a 35 fucking years.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yeah, because that charge, he got into a fight in there. Then they let him out He got robbing the car Yeah, it's just it's just How the coupons valid still though Coco can he still use them? I don't fucking know. I would hope so after he got to get something for that.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I don't think he buried the coupons. How's just so funny how somebody could just live their life like that It's okay and my buddy Every time he got out He got a different chick pregnant Different fat chick pregnant So he's a Cuban kid
Starting point is 00:07:51 He loves those fat chicks The white ones that have retarded So he bangs those and they bring them cookies in jail and shit. Only chubby white chicks bring you food in jail. There ain't no hot chicks visiting you. I never had any visitors when I was locked. Yeah, I had maybe a handful over the three years I was down.
Starting point is 00:08:08 But it's just really funny that some people, man, 20 years in prison, get out and world. Do you think the world has changed for us now? I think if you were away and you came out and all some people like, where's a pay phone? There ain't no more pay phones. What do I need to make a call? Can I just get a cab now?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Uber. What's Uber? What's Uber? What's an app? You know, so I can't imagine even doing something like that. It's hard. It's, you know, and he was, I guess in jail, he was somebody. He had a clout.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Well, that's what happens. And he liked that role. They called him the leprechaun for Christ's sex. They feared him. He was so feared in prison. They kicked him out of Attica. We talked about this. He bit a pagan's nose off.
Starting point is 00:08:52 A pagan who was in life for double murder. He cut his girl's, you know what out for cheating on him. So this was no little punk that he took down. But the guy pressed charges and Gary refused protective custody because the gang wanted to kill him. And they just figured for the safety of the prison system, just ship him up to Auburn. And that's where he was released some years later. But yeah, he bit of Pagan's nose off.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And I think that was the hardest. And he had it easy when he was home. We talked about this years ago. He had everything, beautiful homes. He didn't have a car, but he got rides everywhere, cell phone, got his teeth fixed for him, hooked him up. Everybody went out of their way, iPads. He just, I don't know, he was just a criminal by nature, I guess.
Starting point is 00:09:35 You know, you just feel like that's what's safety. That feels like home. You know, no responsibility. You talk shit all day. You brag about the prisons you've been in and what crimes you committed. And people, ooh, you went to Haddock. I could see if he said he went to Notre Dame. I can say if you went to fucking Dachiva Institute,
Starting point is 00:09:59 and people go, holy shit, M.I.D. You know, but for you to tell people, yeah, I did a nickel in Pelican Bay. Ooh, really? Oh, my God, how was it? And the guys like telling you, like, it's a fucking country club, and you're sitting there going,
Starting point is 00:10:14 what is going on that these people are glamorizing? Yeah, they let you up till midnight. You get free clothes. You get to swim in the summer, and you're like, these are things you do at home. You know what I'm saying? Like you just couldn't fucking handle it.
Starting point is 00:10:30 That's what it really is. Once you see those people and you see it, they're in a fucking, listen, they couldn't survive in the room. Yeah. Well, I did try to tell Gary when people like,
Starting point is 00:10:40 where are you coming from where you've been? I said, just tell him you just graduated Alburn to prison. But, you know, college it could go either way, but he didn't understand that. But yeah, he just,
Starting point is 00:10:51 I don't know, coax, it's sad because I love Gary growing up. He, He really became nuts, you know. He did some serious time with some serious people. For example, Mark David Chapman killed John Lennon. He used to serve him up his food.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I got a letter handwritten and signed for Mark David Chapman, wishing Gary Luck in life and preaching the word of God to him. God loves you and he will forgive you. Did he forget? You're still locked up. I guess that doesn't work. But he did some serious time. What's his name from Goodfellers?
Starting point is 00:11:21 the one Robert De Niro played in Jimmy Conway. Yeah, and then he hooked up with the Russians. He did a lot of crazy stuff, Gary. You know, and I think he really became, well, he was always nuts to begin with. Remember when he was young, he did the mushrooms? What was that when you were like a yard? Doug, I come back with like 20 guns and a bag of mushrooms. I put the mushrooms on top of the dinner table.
Starting point is 00:11:47 His mother's going to cook. We're in the room going through the guns, the bullets and the Coke and the whole fucking deal. And all I can hear is and he's somebody's eating mushrooms. We go out of it. The kid's 14 years old. It's like potato chips. He's eating them like chips. Watch him is dead.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I didn't know what they were. Yeah. We put the bag down. Danny took the bag. Give me a fucking bag. We went out. We partied. We went to some bar. We come back at 4 in the morning. The house is black. Even Danny pulls up and goes, I'm not right. There ain't a light on it, my fucking house. We walk upstairs, he turns the light on, and there's Gary on the couch in the dark.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I'll never forget this. And he looks up and he goes, what? I ain't tripping. He's 14 years old. Oh, man. Yeah, that, that, you don't come back from that. A couple walks up and down the hill, 46 feet, yeah. Some vodka, you drink some fucking water from Lincoln School or something like that in the
Starting point is 00:12:48 fucking pipes. McKinley, Franklin, those three schools, there's something wrong with the fucking water. Okay? And that's it. A couple of years in North. Pergin, that's it. We saw, I saw people in front of me lose their fucking minds
Starting point is 00:13:02 here in the mid-80s. This was no joke. Hoping down those streets by your grandmothers, that was no joke. You could be walking the streets at four and bump into two people looking for a bottle of vodka. Like, what are you doing? Nothing? Looking for vodka. It's four in the fucking morning. And you're by 80s. I might
Starting point is 00:13:18 have been one of them. Yeah. I got to raise my hand. He was down from his grandparents' hotel. Yeah, one of those dives down there. Oh, dog. And it was another one down a little bit. With the jacuzzi in it, with three rooms connected. Yeah. You were big time when you got the jacuzzi room.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I got the jacuzzi room. And bitches were coming in and was filled with Arab sperm and bubble gun rappers. And you're in there like, yeah, look at me. I'm on Tunley Avenue, an hot tub and shit. Take a picture to put on IG. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, that was Joe Tobia's spot. Remember Joe Tobia?
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yes. He loved that place. Yeah, I beat him there one time, too. Yeah, well, he got robbed every other day. Yeah. He would he deserve. He driving around with the bracelets on, sticking his hand out. He had the car that you couldn't get close to it because I had an alarm.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And it would go right to his page. He used to drive me fucking crazy because he would put the Coke right by the back window. All you had to do is break that window. Oh, he was the worst show off. Yeah. Did this happen in your neighborhood? No. What type of neighborhood did you grow up?
Starting point is 00:14:16 I grew up in a neighborhood where honestly, like, there was like one guy in my high school who has since passed away. But it would like, he was a very good dude. to me. He grew up down the street from me, but like would occasionally go to prison for like a year or two. But no, not much. That's all you got? One guy in the whole town? I think so.
Starting point is 00:14:38 It wasn't, I grew up in a synagogue? I'm so sorry. This is the only room where that's like, listen, you kind of grew up in a fucking pussy place? Yeah. No, I don't know. It's nothing wrong with that. No, I used to joke like the police station in my town. They didn't
Starting point is 00:14:52 like maybe a couple DUIs. If you look at the probably from out of town is too. Yeah. Well, your buddy that goes to jail once a year. You know, it's crazy because when I'm driving
Starting point is 00:15:02 in these streets here, we see all these disasters and all this, but there was a lot of good stories in the streets. You know, we tell some crazy stories about drugs and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:15:12 But we saw some pretty interesting stuff. That most people don't say it. Like, people say to me, why don't you drink? You know why? I'll tell you why. New Year's 1980. I went to see Errol Smith.
Starting point is 00:15:25 At the Nassau Coliseum. Oh, gosh. Somebody. On the way back, his cousin, his uncle got stuck. They had a flat fucking... Mike? Yeah, they got stuck with the Nikki DeLucia. Oh, Nick?
Starting point is 00:15:35 Mickey DeLubley. He still loves the car washes, I think. With the fucking tow truck. Okay. But I came back with Mike, Denny, the devil. And as we were driving back on the County Boulevard, I saw RX7 take a tree out, a pole out by Maregs. And it was in the middle, and the one person was dead.
Starting point is 00:15:55 and the other girl was yelling. And that lesson alone said... 1980? When they were cut in the roof, the guy goes vodka bottle or something, I go, God damn it. And that was it. You know?
Starting point is 00:16:09 I never seen nobody OD. That's why I think I kept snort and coke. But if I would have seen somebody purple, like that didn't happen. We lost a lot of people to car accidents over the years. Yeah, but think about it. Like, I have a friend that she's 30. She was snort and coke about five years ago with four people.
Starting point is 00:16:24 they all took a line of coke and it was fentanyl. Oh gosh, that's a shame. Oh, can you imagine that happened in North Bergen? We would get killed because one of those sons were going to be somebody's importance. Yeah. The people that were running with us. Well, that's a... Yeah, people all walks, you know, chief of police's sons, you know, mayors.
Starting point is 00:16:43 You had everybody in those parties. Did that happen? You haven't told a lot of stories about ODs. A couple, but that didn't really seem to happen to you. No. That's some scares. People paranoid more than anything. I think I'm dying.
Starting point is 00:16:54 How about, well, I don't want to throw out names here because, but we've seen some people get frightened, though, like paranoid, and I wanted to say something, but I probably better off not. I could start with me. No, I'm not. I saw the, but you didn't see that part. That's the part when I was alone. The part of fucking, you know, if I went to pick up a package and I was driving home and there's a cop car, let's say I live on 50th Street, but there's a cop car parked on 70th Street, I look at that cop car and I keep going, it's got nothing to do with me. But after about three hours, it's not in Coke. I'm thinking about why that cop car was.
Starting point is 00:17:28 What was he doing down the block? What was he doing down the fucking block? And that's when it starts. You start hitting the curtains and then fucking... You see a fucking shadow under the door and you're like, you know, and it's a horrible. Listen, it's fucking horrible. I'm going to tell you the worst one out.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I fly back here, the Mets are in the... 86 World Series. 86 World Series. Okay. I'm coming to see you. I get here and you're a gentleman. You go, your shit's in the thing. Give me the money next time.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I'm going to remember that one. I'm going away. He goes, you told me, my house is your house. Stay here until Sunday and catch a plane. I'll pay for the car. I said, fine, you left me money. What you didn't fucking tell me was that the pipes broke in the house. And there was three feet of fucking water everywhere.
Starting point is 00:18:16 So I got this, you know, I got six ounces of Coke. Is that Bassiano's old house? I don't know. It must have been. Door on Am avenue. Talk, it was downstairs. In the basement, yeah. You know, I'm sleeping on a bed that's floating, right?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Well, that water bed. That was dormant here. Then I would walk, and then find I couldn't take it no more. It was cold outside. It was like October. And I started snorting. Oh, I got scared in that place. And your sister came down with beers.
Starting point is 00:18:42 She saved my life. And she brought me like a case of beers and a bottle of something. For eight hours, I was snorting. Like, holding a thing and going through water, like with a lantern. Swish, swoosh. I couldn't electrocuted. They'd point. Why would you stay?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Because I had no way to go. I was caught up. I was probably in a hotel. He was in a hotel by Sanctian or something. No, I was at the Sheridan by the Meadowlands. I used to go there a lot. And then Sunday comes. And the car comes as planned and I get in the car.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I remember that I got a white. I got the same shirt on. I got a white flannel on. They were big in the 80s. You could wear these as a shirt like I'm doing today. And I had a white flannel, a hood of sweatshirt shirt. I'll never forget. I get to Kennedy fucking airport.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And in those days, they weren't no tubes to the plane. You went outside. And also, they're like, I go to the plane. And there's all these people with winter jackets, huh? And I'm walking with the flannel. Steam is coming out of me because I've been snorting coke for three days. And everybody was looking at me like, whoa. I mean, the steam was coming off my shirt.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Everybody was like, is he a saint? And I got on the plane and dog, I was sitting down two minutes. I had to start snorting coke. So I got up and down while people walking in, I was walking to the back. Yes, that was common back then. I didn't bother. I got up 10 times before the plane was landed.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Took off or landed? Before it took off. I was already coked up to the gazils from being up for three days. And I got so high. I couldn't get up anymore. Thank God there's a bathroom. I might have to shit.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I couldn't get up anymore. So I was putting the blanket all my head and putting the tray down and doing the Coke, snort it, and then pop back. up again like nothing happened and people are like, hey, how are you doing? That doesn't sound like a really good like hiding trick.
Starting point is 00:20:26 It sounds like you're snort and coke. It was the worst day of my life. You don't care after a certain point. You care, but you don't care. But as long as you get that blast, you'll do anything and worry about it after the blast. I took up like six ounces of Coke. By the time I got to Denver,
Starting point is 00:20:42 because I had a collecting flight, I had to go Denver to Aspen. So they leave you in Denver. But now let me tell you something. In those days, nine of ten times you're getting stuck in Denver with snows. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It was just the way it was. And you accepted it. But in those days, left the airport open all night. The bars, they opened until three in the full time. I thought I had fours. So I would put my shit in one of those lockers.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And I still remember putting like four ounces of Coke in there. I spent $300 taking the Coke out of a locker. You can only open on once. Yeah, because I would go. I'm only going to take one more gram. And I would take another gram and then snort and then have to,
Starting point is 00:21:18 let me get some quarters at the bar. and then go. It was a nightmare. I must have done an ounce at the hotel and spent 300 quarters getting the Coke in the airport out of the fucking the locker just because I didn't want the four ounces on me.
Starting point is 00:21:32 So I would put them in a locker like what's that movie? Get shorty? Get shorty? Then I would go back, pull it out, snort it and put it back in the locker. Did they have cameras back then? No.
Starting point is 00:21:41 They had them, but they weren't. If anyone was watching you going back and forth to the locker, banks had cameras, certain parts of the airport might have, but the common spots, no. I still remember meeting a dude that was in the record industry.
Starting point is 00:21:54 We started talking. I go, you want to do a blast? Man, this motherfucker got fucked up at the airport. Like, you get on a plane and you couldn't even sit still. You couldn't stop blinking. You got an hour flight, and you're fucking so cooked up.
Starting point is 00:22:07 You're fucking blinking and shit. It was insane. Was it normal to see it at the airport? That seems scary. You would see it everywhere. Everywhere. It was the 80s late. And New York.
Starting point is 00:22:19 What you see once a month, a guy nodding. Right. You saw all the way up to 42nd Street, and then it cleaned up a little bit. Once you got up about 125, ooh, everybody was out in full-fecto. Everybody was doing a nod. Then they pop up like nothing happened,
Starting point is 00:22:37 and they start running. And they start running and shit. They were everywhere. And forget going into the Bronx or Yankees Stadium. They were really low. It was a fucking planet of them. And all these places where people paying dogs. I dollar in the village, the ABC, the Alphabet City.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Right. That was Zombo time. I think in my whole years of party, I think I wanted that twice to get Coke. And it was not my cup of tea. Yeah, we spent a lot of time in that city and we didn't care. We go into the Dominican areas like it was nothing, two o'clock. But if they knew you, you were kind of protected. They didn't bother you.
Starting point is 00:23:15 But you're saying alphabet, like the Lower East Side was bad. Yeah, there was a, they called, they made a little stuff. Alphabet City. They made a movie. Yeah, it was pretty good. With that Italian kid and the good looking girl. Vincent Spano and the good looking girl. There you go.
Starting point is 00:23:29 But you got to remember, Lee, this is the 80s. Things were different. You had all the dirty cops going on and you got away with a lot of shit, you know. But when you were in a city that the Dominicans, they didn't bother you. They wanted business. No, because they bother you. All these cars are white kids from the suburbs, spending big money. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:48 That's why I'm just a... If I shake you down, when I take your money, you're going to tell all your friends. Now you're going to blow it for us. Right. If they find somebody out there robbing people, they would fuck them up. Now, they...
Starting point is 00:23:58 When I came back in 1993, it was very interesting because in the 80s, it was all outdoor. We had a place on 135th in Amsterdam. Remember? The Colombian disco downstairs where they had roost fights and shit, roosters. They sold you coke, but it was in the disco.
Starting point is 00:24:12 But if something happened in the disco, you met him outside. When I came back 10 years later, everything moved inside. And it moved to a building on 178th, right by when you get off the George Washington Bridge, instead of making the right, you make a left. Dog, it was planned perfect. Yeah. Even the corners, the way you had to turn, everything was perfect.
Starting point is 00:24:31 You got off, you made a left, you made another right, and then the street actually went around, and then it put you right back on that street to shoot right back on. But you didn't go back on because they were watching you come in. Yep. So what you did was you got weed and coke, and now you went down west side highway. Right. You stopped on 57 to get yourself. for chili dog. Because if you went right back over,
Starting point is 00:24:50 they knew what you were doing. Yeah, you come on the Lincoln Tunnel. Got it. They would wait for you sometimes in Fort Lee, though. Yeah, they'd wait for you. One time we got, you got hit there, we got hit.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Nobody had a license. Oh, yeah, on a bicycle. The bicycle. They were to take his bicycle. They had George out there. We got, we came. You can take his bicycle. We got a flag coming back in
Starting point is 00:25:10 86. I'm not going to drop the names. But nobody had a license. It was a rent-the-car. We had like three keys in the fucking car. drinking open containers and we thought we were all done one of them was crying
Starting point is 00:25:23 I ain't gonna say ho but for some reason the guy just said just get back to North Bergen we just looked at each other like this just didn't happen they just let us go like that I mean open containers
Starting point is 00:25:34 no license rent a car we had a scale in the back I don't know how many it was a decent amount at least a key or two but it was always how you listen the city in the 80s was raw
Starting point is 00:25:44 I got pulled over many things I got pulled over Lisa Gallo on time. It was hysterical. Me, Lisa Gallo, the baseball player from West New York. Oh, my God. And it was how you were... Those guys in the city, they know what you're doing. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:59 They see a jersey play. You're on... You're on... What's that street? On Tuesdays in the Bronx? You're on Webster Avenue. What are you doing on Webster Avenue? What are you coming to see your grandmother? Really? Askedlese? Really? What the fuck are you doing here? Oh, God. And if you fucked around with them, they take your shit.
Starting point is 00:26:17 shit. Unless you were a fucking rich white dude, that's a geek. Like, you know, why are you opening up? Like, once you start playing that, you don't want you to play lawyer? You have no permission to my, uh, whatever. Really? Get the fuck out of the car. Now we're taking the car because you live in Connecticut. You went over state lines. So that's what would happen. If they caught you coming back from Fort Lee. It took your car. Yeah. If you were a dick. If you were a dick. Yeah. But how many times the cop pulls or something like, Like, officer, what are you going to get your dick sucked around here? And right away, kids, what the fuck is wrong?
Starting point is 00:26:51 We came up here to get out dick, he's not even thinking about drugs. Where the hook is that? And they were looking and go, you crazy motherfuckers, give me your license. All right, get the fuck out of here. Go back to your little punk-ass fucking white neighbors. If I see you up here again, I'm going to beat the living fuck out of you. And that's it. Now go over there.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Now it's the fucking, excuse me, can you step out of the car on? But even then, we always had Hudson County. You always had that one name to drop a name. Yeah, it was always... Everybody dropped the same name. Get out of the car. Okay. The right as they're putting the cups on you.
Starting point is 00:27:27 The neck with the house. By the way. Look in this pocket here. I have a police card from Carmen Balzana. Who? Carmen Balzano. No big deal. He's not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:27:38 You don't come on Balzano? No. I just go to his house every day for lunch and dinner. All right. Give me the card. And they would say extend all courtesies. Yeah, yeah. And then you just went on.
Starting point is 00:27:50 What extent, though? What extent? And then the next day, you'd be walking the school and also that cop car right up right on you. Coco, come here. You gave some fucking cop my name. I'll fucking kill you. You know, because they knew. They got the call that night.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It was crazy. That's, you always knew that if you dropped the name, you, listen, if they caught you with a body and a kilo, it's not going to happen. You're not going to say, Vinie asked me. No. What the fuck is wrong? Even Vinny's going to go to a police station and smack you for dropping his name. You got a kilo back there and a body. You don't know nobody.
Starting point is 00:28:22 You know Cy Lawrence. Yep. You know Joe Marco. You know fucking this guy. Oh, they were nuts to Marco's fucking the day. And that was the thing. Everybody knew everybody. You get buffing left.
Starting point is 00:28:32 You know how many times I got pulled over on Kennedy Boulevard doing 90 with Coke? And they would just look at you. Louis Stitzer got me like three times in the night. Come on, guy. Come on. You again. You were in a different car. What happened to the Trans Am?
Starting point is 00:28:45 I still remember. going over there with Raygo in 93 the afternoon to get Coke and coming back and seeing George walking back on the bridge and that's pulling over on the bridge. Oh, you were one of them? Yeah, get in the fucking car because they took it. They caught them every time. Did you do the TV thing?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Louis? He taught me, George taught me that if I went the Safeway on the other side of the bridge and you went an 801 in the morning, 8.30. You were good? I walked in with a suitcase. I was a businessman and a suit. I had $3 on my pocket. There was no business, okay?
Starting point is 00:29:17 My business was thievery. I would walk in then, and they would have like the shit on the shelves, but if you looked up, they had the whole cases. So I would stick a whole case of aspirin, vaginal, cream, because that's what they paid top dollar for in Harlem.
Starting point is 00:29:32 All those Puerto Ricans get fucking dirty vaginas. They're getting dick when they're 14, 15. You're out there doing your thing, dog. A yeast infection is in your fucking future. And I would take that up and walk out of there. And sometimes I wouldn't even have the money for the bus. I would just get on that thing with my suitcase and my little suit sweating. 90 degrees in the morning with humidity.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And I would walk over bridge, find the Dominican grocery store, sell them the stuff that they gave me 40 bucks. At least I got the day started. I go get a 20, and now I had 20 to eat something on the way down Manhattan until I bump into another purse or whatever fuck. That was the day. Yeah. What was it?
Starting point is 00:30:13 When you think about it, it's kind of, it's kind of, kind of sad to think about that. Your whole day, that's all you wanted to do is get high. From 83 to 85, living in North Bergen, it was just that. It was just that. It was going to Sharp Midtown Lounge at 1130, and by the time you left that one, somebody came up to you and said, hey, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Where can you get a quarter of a hour? Let's go right now. It's one o'clock. Yeah. Now, you're in Harlem or one o'clock. Guess what that means? But Duncan Projects. Remember Duncan Projects?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Then we come to the midtown. stay in the city. Like, what 21, 20, 20, guy? A rooftop. And you're in the city at fucking 20 afternoon drinking cocktails. Where's my life going? Like, when I think of that shit, that makes me depressed. I'm sad when I look back at, I spent the 80s was a blur. I remember shit, but it seemed like it came and went. I'm happy it happened to open our eyes. Yeah. But if I could avoid it, what I know now, I would avoid. I was just driving up here. I dropped my daughter off. I drove up by the galaxy. The galaxy was like,
Starting point is 00:31:16 it was a disco in the 80s because you all ended up there for Coke or a chick or you ended up at the grinder. They were like... The human grinder. They were like the 8... Studio 54 was the grinder. And...
Starting point is 00:31:30 The rooftop was fun too. And the rooftop was... The other fucking building. That's how it was to us. Like when somebody invited you there for an after party at 3 in the morning, shit. Yeah. You were fucking going in there. We weren't done. I mean, we even came back from the rooftop to Amos's in Guttenberg.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Yeah. And he'd open up at like 6 o'clock, 6.30. And then the Midtown would open up. It was like a, he used to call me what, Moonday. You see me Friday and I show up again. Mundi was the drug dealer that was across the street from the Board of Education. He'd be gone for days at a time. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:32:03 The gas station I used to rob with Rego that we always talk about in the stories is the Amico across from the Board of it. And he was very good friends with North Pergin as a whole. He made donations. And I started robin. And then he went to Mr. Asklees. Mr. Asklees talked to us. And one day I was talking to him to Georgie, and we're talking about Coke.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And George goes, listen, I don't know where you're buying your coke from, but the best Coke is right here because he was bringing up Coke in fruit trucks. Right there, right there on that corner. You see the fruit truck, come on. And you see 50 Cubans out there unloading oranges. Come on, man. Come on, man. And the guy's name was Mundi.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I remember him, but what was the mug's name at Joe and Marys in the early 80s, like 82? What mug? The Cuban guy that used to come in there at Locco or something like that? Loco. Locke lives in Texas now. Christy Lorenzo. He come and get you all high and then get you going and next thing you know, you're hitting him up. Motherfucker, he would give you Coke out of a leaf.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah, he would keep in the leaf. I remember that was real shit, yeah. That was fucking scary. Locke. You're 20 years old, 21. You're leaving, you're leaving your house. You just told your grandma, grandma, I'm taking you the doctor tomorrow at 10 in the morning. I'll be here at 9.30.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Shit. 9.30. You're in a hotel with me and 18 other guerrillas looking at two broads there. There's two broads sitting there. And every guy's like, I'm going to kill that bitch. And now it's 9 in the morning. Now you're waiting for six people to leave. But ain't nobody leaving.
Starting point is 00:33:30 It's 11 in the morning. And then somebody goes, I just made a call. We've got a half pounds on the way. Wash your faces. Wash your feet. Do what you need to do. We're in here for the remainder. I've spent many a morning, well, it started off as a night in your grandfather's house in the basement watching game film.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Over and over again, slowing it down, rewind it. You see, here's the block here that opened up then. We scored the, I mean, it was like being in game. I was like a football camp or something like that. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. I don't want to bring up names, but yeah, I've watched a lot of game film. And that's fucking lunatic. I grew up in this Cuban world.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I grew up in this Cuban fucking crazy world that I'm proud of I don't give a fuck They were crazy and I learned a lot from them They were revolutionaries The way they thought was different Everything And my mom dies and like
Starting point is 00:34:21 You know I knew these guys But I had lost contact with them One night this fucking lunatic comes up And he goes listen this Cuban dude Has been asking by his name is Malagamba Malagamba You made me meet him on 60th street By Park Abbey
Starting point is 00:34:35 It was off a lot a beaten path. Wasn't there a bar there? A bar there? They hustled out of that. Yeah, they hustled out of that. And I always do that dude was weird. I mean, he was very good friends with my mother, Ma Gama.
Starting point is 00:34:47 He was good friends with my real dad, the whole fucking deal. But recently, I found that that guy was like the leader of Alpha 66. I mean, you were like, he's a dangerous dude. I always know him and his brother were fucking ferociously dangerous. A lot of people were. They just came off his gentleman, but don't cross him, you know. And they were always kind, generous. buy your drinks.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah, don't worry. You get me in a week. See you in a week. You know, they were, I don't know, things were different. Again, I'm like you. I had a lot of fun, but I wish I could have done things differently. But again, I always say, if I did one thing different, I would have never met my wife.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I would have never had my family. So I don't know. You know what I'm saying? If I stayed in the Army, for example, or I stayed in California. Tell these motherfuckers, what happened with you in the Army? Tell them, coming out of North Bergen. So people know.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Tell them your biggest fucking star in the Army. Well, I was soldier of the year for the 101st Airborne. A kid from Norfolk. Right, yeah. Was soldier of the fucking year. And a year later, he was snorting coke with us at Corky's. Till 6th of the morning with his medals on and shit, snorting coke off the medals. He didn't give a fuck, Jack.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Well, you know what? The first time I actually did, was exposed to cocaine, was in Panama on a training exercise. They let us into Cologne, which is a danger, Roberto Durant's place. And a taxi driver took us. I was with the oldest soldiers and they got some coke for like 50 bucks. You got like a fucking
Starting point is 00:36:18 out. Yeah. The best out. And that's the first time and I kind of liked it, but it was different. It was real. It didn't make you scared. It didn't do made you nice. You know? And then as I came home, North Bergen, one thing led to it.
Starting point is 00:36:34 And you remember the first time you ever got paranoid? Like, you didn't get paranoid right away. It took me... No, no, no. It's like gambling. You win money in the beginning. Everything's fine. You get a heart on.
Starting point is 00:36:45 A pussy smells great. Everything's fine. Then out of nowhere. The first ten times you're getting the dick sucked. And then you start eating pussy, but looking out of window, like, let me eat your pussy right here. Because I got to see if they come to the garage. Like, that's when you know...
Starting point is 00:36:59 I remember the first time. And then it just builds. It builds. And I would quit because of the paranoia. Oh, that was awful. But the paranoia grows. Like, it just keeps. He would growling.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Every so often I would get lucky and not get paranoid, but nine out of ten times. I couldn't imagine going on line. First time, I'll tell you, it was 1984 quintessence. I think it was the same night I met Gina, maybe. Philpah, Danta, Paris, were all hanging out and we partied at my house. Then we're sitting in the park and a lot of quintessens. And they're all ready to go. And just something came over me.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I'm like, I'll be with you in a second. I couldn't explain it, couldn't get out of the car. Fifteen minutes later, they're knocking on the window. What's, I said, I don't know, fellas. I don't know what happened. This is an awful experience. I'm worried, I'm scared of what? I had to go in and chuggle up like six drinks to come, you know how the drinking brings you down.
Starting point is 00:37:53 But I remember the first time, quintessence, everybody thought I was, what do you mean? You're scared. Why are you scared? This is great. I said, I don't know how to explain it. I'm worried. I'm anxious. I think people are looking for me.
Starting point is 00:38:05 and obviously they were because they knocked on the window. But that was the first time. It was a few times, like I said, that I avoided it, probably too much drink. And we did the volumes, too, to help a little bit. Remember I go to the city, put up the little signal for the Vee, but... You got 12 for, you got $8 for $10 back at the old McSorley's alehouse. What the hell was in that weed you gave me?
Starting point is 00:38:26 That's fucking things like edible. Christa. Yeah, that's good shit. What is that? It's pretty funny because I never got paranoid before. Now, I know why you look the way you do all the time. And then this is a dungeon. This is a dungeon.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And then in 85, I get clean. And I stay clean for about a year and a half, 16 months, I stay clean. I got a call from this fucking hump. Hey, what are you doing? Nothing. I'm coming out your way. I'm coming to ask me to see you. That's when you came up to the house.
Starting point is 00:38:53 The general. You were watching a general's house, right? No mass village. That was fucking insane. That was a cool joint day. And you let that was, you know how much that house cost today? For a month to rent it? 100,000 a month to rent it for the month.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I can see that, yeah. And they redid it. I mean, it was nice back then. It was nice back then. You had the little trailer. Yeah, you had the little trailer off to the side. I remember we went up spending most of the time in that little, we had access to this huge palace.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And here we are in a little trailer. There's a little room. Four of us in it. Yeah. A little tiny bedroom with a TV, a little tiny bathroom, a little tiny closet. But once the guy left, I lived in the house. Oh, yeah. Where in his room.
Starting point is 00:39:32 But that night, though. I put his jewelry on. night for some reason. We felt safer in a little confined. We always did because the house was big. It was too big. You'd be hearing shit. You'd be heard shit.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Then you walked around the house. But I remember you left me like an ounce of coke. It said, start slinging, motherfucker. And that's what I was telling the story. Everything fell into the guns. And it just became this. We left there with guns, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:55 We got three or four pistols. Right. And they were like, can we buy one of these? Yeah, you can buy all. Buy them. Not only were we able to buy them. But ship them. Dude, no.
Starting point is 00:40:03 We took them right on. LAX. And they gave you a box. A little box. A little box. 50 bucks. I'm like, here we are pulling guns out of L.A.X. Like four of them.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Hey, we got guns. Oh, no, you can't bring them on unless you have a box. So we can actually bring these things back? Because we had to rent the car. We left snowmass. We started tripping on the mushrooms that you gave us. I said this earlier to the fellas. Rent the car.
Starting point is 00:40:28 We didn't know where the windshield wipers were. And then it starts pouring out. And we're laughing. We can't find the thing. and Russo is driving and it seems like the car was hanging over the cliff from you know
Starting point is 00:40:40 we hallucinating and everything then we wound up going to Vegas stopped at Death Valley watching our Reeboks melt in the fucking blacktop that I do remember that then we went to L.A. stopped to see my car's it and checked in those guns
Starting point is 00:40:56 this was 85 maybe 86 80 then you came back there then I got to call one day this is the best story of I'm selling cars. I had not gotten arrested yet. I had not gotten arrested yet. And I got to call it the car dealership.
Starting point is 00:41:16 They're like, Joey Diaz, Coco Diaz, and my Coco. Fuck, call me Coco. And pick up the phone and it's Danny. It's either Danny or Rousseau. And you guys are like, no, let's get back to the basics. The original story goes like this. I got a call for my girlfriend. I don't even live with.
Starting point is 00:41:34 She lives with her parents. My girlfriend calls me at 8 in the fucking morning in this house that George moved into later on and I answered the phone I'm like what's going on and she goes hey man you know Mrs. Sabatino
Starting point is 00:41:45 I go yeah I go to people she died I go what what happened she called here looking for her son Anthony I go that's funny and no I go really Anthony
Starting point is 00:41:55 so I called Miss Sabatino back she's like yes they were out all weekend and they left Sunday night it's Thursday and I'm concerned with them dog I don't hang up the phone I go to sell a car And bling.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Coco Diaz. Hello? Listen, it's us going our way. We're in Vegas or some shit. We'll be at the airport at 9.30. I fucking cleaned up a car, the best car on the lot. I shoot to the fucking airport. I get to the airport.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Everybody knows me. Three people. Coco, go, go, go, go. Yeah, Coco. What? What happens? Your buddies were here. They tipped their fucking joint.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Oh, at the airport. These guys are like, yeah, your buddies were here. And I'm like, oh, my God. We got everybody messed up. The pilot was even high. Go to shotgun. The best strip club in Colorado in Denver. Shotgun Willys.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Look it up. Somebody Google it. That's a bat. There's two of them. There's the Steakhouse one. And there's that one. You motherfuckers, again, the dudes at the airport, the shuttle people outside. It's 9.30.
Starting point is 00:42:57 They're like, your boys over at shotgun willies. Shotgun willys. Shotgun willys. Okay. I take the fucking rental car. you know, whatever the fuck it is, the loner. I go in a thing and there's 400 people on a Tuesday night. These place is packed.
Starting point is 00:43:14 There's women on every circle and there's 20 guys around them. They're all money. I'm like, again, I go up to the door guy and go, listen, I'm looking for three of my buddies from Jersey. Table number four. They were over there. They had the thing closed off. They're fucking tipping the waitresses. The girl is dancing.
Starting point is 00:43:30 They're having their own. Russo had a smile face-to-face. I'll never forget that. Rebox, everybody. And they gave me like a bag to take into the bathroom. It was a chunk. It felt like one of those things that you grab and work on your wrist. It was just a chunk of cocaine.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And I remember I couldn't crash it. I'm like, Danny, what is? He's like, just break it off. And we started breaking it off. You're man. And then they threw us out of there. They threw the lights. And the girls wanted us to stay.
Starting point is 00:43:54 These guys were like, and the girls like, let them stay. And they're like, no, we got to go. So we went somewhere. And then we went back to the hotel room. And we snorted Coke to like six in the morning. And when we hit it. in the bathroom toilet paper thing. The toilet paper that's in the wall
Starting point is 00:44:08 when you're going to the bathroom? No, in the bathroom in your... Oh, okay. Where you take the thing out, they hit it in there. And about 9 o'clock, they're like, all right, we gotta go. I'm like, where are you going? They're like, we gotta take a plane back to Vegas
Starting point is 00:44:20 some shit. No, we drove to Vegas. We had to rent the car. If this is the same trip. Yeah, and then Danny busted, he busted my balls about that 17 grams for years. You still owe me money, man. I don't know if it was that much.
Starting point is 00:44:33 But let me, it was seven. Probably owed it to somebody else, too. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Was it 17? It was that. You started with an ounce, and we did all that, and there was 17 grams. So I'll waive the interest, I'll take 15. No, it was fucking Russo.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Rousseau was like, you owe me the money. Okay, I take that fucking rock or Coke, and I get in my rental car. And I go, you know what? I'm going to snort this whole fucking thing. So I find the hotel. I get it, I go into a liquor store, I buy like a bottle of vodka and like a case of beers. It's fucking one in the afternoon, guys.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I was burned at that time. It was 25. Had nothing going out with selling cars and I had this great girlfriend. I call her up and I go, hey, I got something because she used to snore with me. I got something. Meet me at this hotel in Denver.
Starting point is 00:45:27 And she goes, okay. But then she, something happened. I called her from the room and she goes, you know what? I can't go. my father, I got to do something my father at 8.30. I go, all right, fine. Even more coke for me.
Starting point is 00:45:40 So there's a window. I got the beers and I got the vodka. I'm just making like little drinks and drinking. And also I start snorting the paranoia goes right through me. I start looking out the window and I see a car. And every the car would stop and then it would take off
Starting point is 00:45:56 and another car would come up. It's the feds. And now I'm hearing zz, zz, zz. So I'm thinking they're drilling to the walls to put like a wire in there to see what I'm doing in there. So there's a big tub, and I fill it up in the shower with water, cold water, and there's a big Coke rock.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And I take the Coke rock and I throw it in the water to see how long it's going to take the melt in case they kick my door down. I can just draw the Coke in the water to melt. Just glee, I'm out of my mind. You time it? Ow, I just throw it in. You see a result. You know?
Starting point is 00:46:27 And I'm sitting there in this water. One Mississippi. And this water is sitting there for fucking the whole time. And I'm snorting. I'm trying to jerk off, but I'm too paranoid. I'm looking out the window. And finally I go, fuck this. I take that whole bag of Coke,
Starting point is 00:46:42 and I throw it in the fucking toilet. And I throw the thing, and I take, like, the baggie, and I eat it in case the feds are coming. But then, after about two hours, I realized I didn't do that. I realized there's no feds. There's nothing. Now I'm sitting in the toilet,
Starting point is 00:46:59 and I'm just looking at the toilet, and I'm taking all the brown pieces and put in my, I sat there for like six hours because the Coke goes to the side of it. Oh, God. And like, when a watered way, I sat there, but this is what gets better. And you didn't clean your toilet very long.
Starting point is 00:47:14 No, no, this is a hotel. There's a hotel. It was a whole tub. Even better. So now I'm sitting there, I'm Jones, and I'm like, what the fuck? What did I do? And I drank all the beers, all the vodka's,
Starting point is 00:47:25 and there's really no water in those days. There's no bottle of water. But there was a tank of the pitcher that I filled up with water. I forgot I threw the Coke rock in there. Oh, no. So I throw like a two-gram Coke rock in there and a little bit of water. But I forget all about it.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And I'm sitting there. I'm like, fuck, I wish I had Coke. And I start drinking this water. Oh, no. I'm like, oh, that's right. And all of a sudden, I lost my voice, right? It's fucked up my. It's like Donald Duck.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And she kept calling me, yeah. And I'm like, what's going on with you? Did you finish it? I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. Dog, it was horrible. And when I went downstairs, the reason why people were stopping, because it was an ATM machine.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And that's why people were stopping, taking their money, and I'm going. I thought it was the Fed switching cars. So you throw out all their Coke? 11 grams at least. And then I put like... I've done shit like that. I did like nine diluted in my nose.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And that's when you know, like one time I got so paranoid, I called the cops on myself. We all did that one. When the cops even told me, listen, put the bag away. Like after the third time, it's three hours, they're like, Joey. You should make like a game like cocaine bingo. Like what do you everyone be?
Starting point is 00:48:37 You call the cops on yourself. You threw the bag away. Hang man. This is crazy. Hang man. You have no idea how crazy this whole. I'm in the fucking halfway house. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I get one of those furloughs for the weekend. And my godfather, my in-law, my father-in-law puts me in the trail outside, which is a $100,000 trailer. TV showers at the time. He just, boy. bought it. And I'm out there. I bring it. It was like an eight ball, maybe like a quarter, but it was really good. So rehab was working at this point. No, I'm in the halfway house from prison. And I'll never forget. I'm snorting coke in there. And it's sometimes when you open
Starting point is 00:49:19 the bendle, the Coke just flies out of the bag. Like hip, hip, hooray. And now I'm walking all over. And at one point, I'm looking out the window. I'm crawled up without a weapon. And I'm actually watching my guys get on the road. and slide down with white jackets so they can mix into the snow with the machine guns. Like James Bond? Yeah, and I'm like, I'm going to die.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Russia with love, right? You know, then they switched to Coke overly. So by 87 now, it started having a little speed. That's why the shit he got in Panama with the ether, with the wash and everything. Right, that was clean. It was priceless. That shit, you can't get normal.
Starting point is 00:49:56 No, they stop that. Now you do coke, you might lose six inches on the next thing. You don't know what they're putting in that shit, you know? What does speed make you do? Like, how does that add to code? Makes you more paranoid? It makes you want more.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Yeah, everything's changed. Especially if you snort that shit. No, I only, I did that only one time on accident thinking it was coke. And I was up for like 72 hours off of one little line. I thought I was able to sleep. Two hours later, I pop up like a zombie. And I did it on accident because I never wanted to be like that. It's always made fun of them.
Starting point is 00:50:31 They got the teeth. They got this. They look like shit. But I did it. Saturday morning like 8 o'clock in the morning I was up to like Monday night maybe Off of one little blast so yeah I'm like none of that shit no that's garbage
Starting point is 00:50:44 I've never done that or all I don't know if I don't do I don't do the pills Not that I know of who knows it's possible but I don't think so I've heard that's great I've wanted to try that for but like none I think it would help me You didn't fucking Austin I did Yeah Carly gave it to you What a no shit I had no piece and you straightened right out
Starting point is 00:51:00 Remember you were fucked up from the edible and the tequila I remember the edible and the tequila I don't remember the I don't remember the I don't remember. She gave, yeah, she gave me an Adderall. And you wouldn't shut the fuck up about tacos and what kind of the taco place calls?
Starting point is 00:51:11 What kind of the talk about is tacos, but I had no idea. I forgot about that. Don't the kids in college used that to stay up and study? Well, you're supposed to help you focus. Focus, right.
Starting point is 00:51:22 But yeah, I think people do it as like, they just do it as like a way to, now it's just to get hard. Study. No. That's Bluetooth. You know,
Starting point is 00:51:29 yesterday. No, I didn't say hard. I say hi. Hiverts. I'm sorry. I know you feel this sometimes. I want you to tell your story, right, real quick.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Okay. The three-minute story. All right. Yesterday I drive my wife. My wife and my daughter left at 9 to a sawpaw game that's 1115. I leave about 10. I get there about 10.30. They're warming up the girls on this side and all the parents over here.
Starting point is 00:51:57 And I'm watching this game here. There's a game here and there's a game there. I'm on a corner watching this game. You know, I'm high. the sun's out, it's beautiful, yes, labor is cold. I'm just sitting there and watching this game, and I'm looking at the girls warming up, and I'm seeing my daughter catching,
Starting point is 00:52:13 and I look over at my wife, and I look again at the field, and I go, hey, Terry, come here for a second. I go, let me ask you a question. I go, when we lived in Hollywood, and at night we go out, and we walk home, and there were those palm readers. If we went into one of those palm readers,
Starting point is 00:52:31 you think he would have told us, hey, in 30 years, you and this schmuck? are going to have a daughter that plays soft when you're going to go to her games. Me and my wife looked at each other and we're like, that would have that. Like, nobody prepares you for this. And that's why I love the way I grew up.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Because now I have this peace. I already had that. I told Mercy to that. If we all had jobs at 8 in the morning, I'd hate that house. Because then we all fighting each other at 8 in the morning. If I had water, the toothbrush, who's going to use this, who's going to use that? I go, it's such a different life from what I was exposed to.
Starting point is 00:53:08 But nobody, there's no fucking way. I even told her, I go, tell me the truth. In 2005, you think we're going to have a kid? She's like, no. I gave up on you when I turned 40. She goes, I just didn't want to tell you because I didn't want to get tested
Starting point is 00:53:24 to see which one it was, it was the weekend. And then we all, you know, because once you take those tests and women take that shit serious, I don't have no sperm. You can't smoke pot. You can't eat carrots.
Starting point is 00:53:36 What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, like they'll say you're a loser and shit, but she goes, no. I didn't want to do that with you. I just thought we'd fucking live without a kid, and then the kid came, you know, so obviously we're both okay, but you don't see any of this. Now, there's no way. And I wanted this. But there was no fucking way.
Starting point is 00:54:00 No way. When Georgia told me about his life, I go, good luck, buddy. Sawball. two daughters wow it's never going to happen for me and now I'm going to softball games like a half of fag sitting there I'm playing softball so I'm playing softball so I'm playing so you're still playing yeah I got invited to play a little bit don't do it get hurt everybody Jimmy's quarantine my neighbor did it for one my wife's begging me not that it'll be
Starting point is 00:54:25 no no no no you know why it takes you at this age it takes you 20 minutes to really get warmed up like really get warmed up you know what's going to happen one day you're going to go to two games you're going to hit a home run you're going to steal third base and you're going to feel like you're Johnny bananas and you're going to go and you're not going to warm up and you're just going to swing the bat and all of a sudden you're and all of a sudden it's like we just rip your a muscle that couldn't rip if you fucking wanted it to rip that's what happened I tell you I was telling the story earlier in 2019 I was up in North Bergen charity softball thing uh for Amorosa and all them and it's like serious
Starting point is 00:55:04 series of games, six, seven games to win it all. It's like the last game. I'm catching. I think we're winning a little bit by two or three runs. I got the ball in my hand. This guy's just barely around in third base, right? And he's built like a college football player. $2.50, six something.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I'm casually sitting there ready to slap it easy. You know, tag him he's out. And he ain't stomping. When I said, oh shit, he ain't slowing down. I tried to dig in a little bit to ground myself. Too late. Lifting me off of my feet. I flew back six foot,
Starting point is 00:55:38 busted my ribs. I held on to the ball, though. And everybody's like, what are you doing? He's an old man. He's an old man. He said, I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:55:46 It's so good. It's so part of the game, you know? And you can't get mad at them. No. They're doing the same thing we would have done. Yeah, but that's what I stopped. With two lines of coconut. But I did lead off the next inning and hit a nice double.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I ripped it and I looked at him. You know, it's just we're at an age now where you've got to be careful along the way. You don't want to be that dude. I'm not in bed putting my socks on. I hurt sometimes. You know, at 6 in the morning, I stretch before I put my socks on.
Starting point is 00:56:12 You're still lifting. I'm still in a gym, yeah, but still, you know, I'm in a gym. I still do all right, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:19 but I know what you're talking about. You got great color. You know, you look good. I know you still love your cocktails. There ain't nothing wrong with that. No, we like all happy hour.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Jamie and I don't go out with the fellas. It's always me and Jamie. We like day drinking. You know, we don't get stupid. By 8 o'clock a night, We're lights out. We're sleeping already.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah, we don't stay up. What was the last time you did the line of coat? It's been a bit. I ain't going to say it's been like years and years. 10 years? No, probably about two years. But no, no, no. In all defense, I held out and I admitted it to my wife
Starting point is 00:56:54 because she looked at me silly and she goes, did you party with those fellas last night? And I'm in a swim and pool at 6 o'clock in the morning. And I didn't even do a lot, but I just couldn't sleep. I felt guilty. But since I've been married for 26 years almost, if I'd done it five times in 26 years, that's a lot. But the last time was a couple of years ago,
Starting point is 00:57:15 and I felt awful if I did one or two, and then, you know, I'd do it on the key. We used to do railroad tracks. Then we said, you've got to do it like a gentleman. You've got to put it on the key, walk away. One of them will walk away. But then you do another one of them, and another one of them.
Starting point is 00:57:33 But yeah, it was a couple of years ago, and I felt like shit, I felt guilty, but I did cop out. I did rat on myself. That's what else you could do? Well, she was looking at me. I didn't want to lie to us. I can't do it. Like, it's 19 years this November. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:57:49 And then next year will be 20 and I'm petrified because, you know what I realized? I realized I did this much damage since I was 44. Can you imagine if I had the balls and stopped? when I was 30. I had more years to accomplish my goals. Yeah. I did what I did in a short period. Your comedy career took off when you got straight to.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Everything. Everything. Everything took off. You know what I'm saying? So I know I can eat a mushroom, which I haven't eaten in nine months. We ate a happy pill and fucking half a muscle life, which I eat for my knee because I'm having surgery.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Understand. But I tell you what, a couple weeks ago, I did the codeine's on my knee, puke them still in the door. Oh, yeah. That, yeah. All those things, get old, like they get old, you know. And now I have my reefer.
Starting point is 00:58:37 The reefer. That's not reefer. That's fucking whatever that is. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's morphine. And I've had people write me privately and go, Joe, why do you still smoke? The reason I still smoke is because it lets me know I picked up something from the past. If that's it, I had a lot of bad habits. We all did.
Starting point is 00:58:58 A lot of bad habits. Not just you. We all did. The only bad habit I took into this was marijuana. and edible. And I'm okay with it. Everybody knows in this room I can eat 2,000 milligrams. I don't know how to fuck you do that.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Because we grew up here. We drank lots of river water. Especially with those stairs. We drank at Joe Mary. We pissed on the dog. You know, we did things. You know what I'm saying? Lila.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Sweetheart, stop pissing on the dog. Oh, my God. But darling, you keep hitting him in the eye. I know how much to like. I remember coming out of prison. Getting a hot DUI, then put me back in the halfway house and them going, Joey,
Starting point is 00:59:32 the next time we catch you. they're going to give you six years. Guess what I do after the door locked? I did a line of coke. That's youth. That's stupidity. That's a fucking jerk off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I didn't have any value in my life. You want to throw me in jail? Throw me a fucking girl. There's a woman. There's a limit. And then I just said that was it. One day you can't keep throwing your life. And then it's, bro, it got in a way of comedy.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Oh, yeah. Towards the end, what I did at the end at the improv, when I got the Ontario Improv and I'm settled in this 11 o'clock and I'm like, man, I wish I could go for a line of Coke and I drove all the way back to Hollywood. I got a gram a Coke and I drove all the way back to stay up until 8 in the morning
Starting point is 01:00:14 and I miss radio. Oh, the interview. Usually for like a fucking year. Until I had to talk to them and tell them what happened, you know, from the heart. And that's why. Now, listen, there's been a couple times like in the last 18 years.
Starting point is 01:00:29 There's maybe been twice where I could go, hey, that chick is pretty odd. She's giving up that monkey if you put a rock of coke on it. And I'm like, you know what? But I'm not going back to where I was. None of this is worth it. No, it's not worth it. It's not worth it.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And now you don't even know what you're doing. We get a little crazy here. We drink a cocktail. Let's go to the city. And then some fucking guy walks in that looks like the mayor. Shalami, whatever his fucking name is. I got cocaine. You give him a grand hundred and it's got fentanyl all in it.
Starting point is 01:00:58 And now three people die. We can't. It's not the same. No, and, you know, even my friends, and they still party pretty often without mentioning again names. And I worry for him. I like, guys, oh, we know the guy. We know the guy. We know the guy.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Like, does he know the guy that knows the guy? But, you know, they buy the test strips. If I have to test cocaine. Yeah. You have a problem. Can you imagine us picking up an ounce of four in the morning and now? We got to test it. We're going to do that cocaine.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Nobody can whip out that test. There's a little chicken there with fake tities, filled with milk. You know what I'm saying? There's something. Well, let's take a breather real quick. And we'll be right back, Jack. Hey, what's going on? Uncle Joey here.
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Starting point is 01:04:12 We're back like herpes. Oh, no. Anyway, I want to thank Blue Chew always keeping the podcast alive with some funny ads. Anyway, Danny, I want to talk to you about some stuff here. You know, there's not a lot of guys left. That was from Mark.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Death, they're retarded, they read too much. much about Trump. It's something with these guys. Did you think ever, you were like, when I wake up every morning and I'm in the fucking shower, when I wake up every morning and I go in the shower, I look at the water coming out on my face and I go, how the fuck am I still here? Like every morning, I'm like, how the fuck is this possible? You know, I never OD.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I took two quaaludes one day, too heavy-duty quailudes. And I passed out at fucking Joe Lucci's barbecue when Joe Lucci was the man and the king of North Bergen, I loved that motherfucker. Yeah, that was a good spot. That was a good spot. And that's the only time I'll eat and stuff. But I still cannot believe that
Starting point is 01:05:19 I just can't believe it sometimes. And I just sit there. And then I have coffee and I write. And when I'm writing my journal, the same thing comes out at some point in the two or three pages that I write. And I'm like, what the fuck? And it's not doing good for yourself.
Starting point is 01:05:38 For me, it was just still being here. And I always felt that and you. I mean, dog, people would have quit if they're in half of your life. You know, I'm grateful. You were just telling everybody here before and that you moved back up here for 15 months and you moved back. You did this in the twilight of your life. You just decided I'm getting the fuck out of Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:06:01 No, you had an opportunity. I grabbed my balls and, you know, I moved here closer to the city. And, you know, when I got there, the radio station was being sold. They didn't tell nobody and they were going in a different direction. I walk in there one day, I'm, you know, I'm a cheerleader and everybody's loving me. I'm hanging out with Sid Rosenberg, Curtis Lewa. You know, all the guys are 77. And it was great.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I thought I was going to be the next star. And they wind and dined me and Jamie acting so, like they're going to build a show. So when they're walking in, it's like everybody's got their head down. I said, somebody step on their cat or something. What the hell's going on? They just fired 100 people. I go, well, that sucks. Well, they sold the station out little by little.
Starting point is 01:06:44 First, it was WPLJ they got rid of. And, you know, and they went in a different direction. So that's kind of why we went back. I did sell. I shouldn't have sold. It lost me a shitload of money. But I saw the opportunity. I'm in my late 50s.
Starting point is 01:07:00 was this six, seven years ago? Yeah, so I was in my mid to late fifth 70s, that's coming. And I took a shot, you know? Some people say, oh, you got balls to do that. But I should have been a little bit more careful, but I sort of... I'm not criticizing.
Starting point is 01:07:15 I'm fucking about your boss. Yeah. Like, I'm talking about, you know, if people knew half this shit, like... It's a funny joke that we cracked before. This motherfucker was the soldier of the year. He had dinner at the fucking. fucking White House.
Starting point is 01:07:31 With Ronald Reagan, and again, eight months later, he's thorned coke at fucking, whatever the fuck it was. But he got there. And you didn't get there to be soldier the year because of what they told you. It was the survival. I always say that now I look back at what we grew up with. I can name five guys right now off the bat that I know you grew up with that had not the best houses.
Starting point is 01:07:58 They were divorced. The dad was an alky. The other guy's dad was a half a wise guy. He decided to take a watch one day and they killed them. You know, we grew up. And I think that our bond was made over that. We weren't perfect kids. No.
Starting point is 01:08:13 George, I made a bond with him in 1979. You guys go back that long, huh? 19-179. He's from Cliffside. Went to summer school. Smoking joints. In between the 8.30 and the 10-30 session, him and his hot hippie chicken. Look at us now.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Look at us now. You know, and... Still alive. Doing good. Yeah. Well, listen, man. But then there's a kid I grew up with him from North Bergen, but I know he's homeless right now.
Starting point is 01:08:36 He's living in Walmart parking. Oh, that's sad. He's 62. You know, he's collecting Social Security. Why, he went to too many on his skinner concert. He thought the party was never over. You know what I'm saying? You know, those guys?
Starting point is 01:08:47 They're 55. I do know those guys. I do know. Still wearing a T-shirts? We all picked our fucking... Our pass, you know? I'll tell you, when I think about you, myself, Glenn Conti, you know. Glenn Conti.
Starting point is 01:09:04 A lot of guys, like Glenn did exceptionally well. Yeah, he did. I'm proud of it. And nobody over tell you. Nobody over, he won't tell you. But he did exceptionally well. He still has the record at UPS for fucking years. Still there, I think, right?
Starting point is 01:09:17 No, he retired. They called him recently. Yeah. I was telling my neighbor is a UPS driver, and he knows Glenn. He works out of what they call a hub. Everybody knows Glenn. Yeah, well, he knows Glenn. And he's been there 20 years, and I said, yeah, he's been there like 40-7.
Starting point is 01:09:32 He goes, that's impossible. You got to remember, we applied for that job December of 81. He got the job, December of 81. And he just fucking retired. It's the only ever job he's ever had. Like, he went right from high school, UPS. He took some things at some college. Yeah, I remember that.
Starting point is 01:09:51 UPS was paying him more and everything. He was supporting his mom. He was helping out Keith. His mom, good lady, yeah. Yeah, and all these kids, the kids I was with downtown, the Boussaint, all those kids had something going on. And then you have like a Mike Askely's type of situation who lives in a great house, but he wants to hang with the crazy people.
Starting point is 01:10:10 He don't want to hang out with the Chip Chippalibb. Oh, part of North Berger. Oh, do you want a martini? No, that shit didn't exist back there. So this day, I won't get a nice car because we grew up in North Berger. Of a nice car. It's not the worst car. Yeah, I should have like.
Starting point is 01:10:25 People expect to pull up with a Maserati. Yeah, well, I've done that, but believe me. 60 fucking three years old. Five of them I have. I know. I made that financial mistake too. All those things are like, five fucking Maseratis. I know when you're pulling up with that beamer,
Starting point is 01:10:40 you're hiding as a man. When you're a man, you just walk in there. I like when I see a guy that has a dirty shirt on, like a fucked up hair and the hottest chick with him. And all these other guys have the typical outfit now, the blue suit with the watch. with the watch, with the brown shoes. Make sure you see the watch.
Starting point is 01:10:58 A little bit flooded. They're all fake watches. Nobody's got, not everybody's got a Rolex in society. So somebody's fucking showing up with one of those fucking Shoney-Otani makes $10 million. He gives everybody a $4,000 watch.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Tony, take this watch and take it back to Japan and make a fucking super one that hits home run. You're going to give me a $4 grand. And not for none, the ones with the watch with the fucking Amani suit. They never pick up a bill either. They don't pick up a bill.
Starting point is 01:11:21 They run. They go to the bathroom. They put that cologne on. They're shooting. Shooting steroids. They get the perfect trim. I was with one of them not too long ago. And you see it.
Starting point is 01:11:30 I went to Miami and you see the exact same cut of, cookie cutter guys picking on girls. And they don't even grind no more. At least we'll just sit there like this. We take girls and drive. They just sit there like this. Weaving the handkerchief. Yeah, like waving nothing, an empty hand.
Starting point is 01:11:46 You know what I'm saying? You better put a half gram worth 20 in that motherfucker. Yeah. It's just so weird when I see that now. And you go, what is he? Why is he working so hard with that? You know, I got caught. I lost my license for so many years, you know, over 10.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Just tickets, and then I went to jail, and it all escalated driving without a license. And finally, in the late 90s, I got it back. And, you know, everybody would bust my bulls. You don't have a car at your age. So I said, oh, yeah. Once I got my license back, I went out and got a brand new catalog, had it for about a week, and I got a DUO. and I got a refusal.
Starting point is 01:12:26 So I lost it for 18 months and I just met my wife. We were together for like two weeks. And she was a lot younger than me. I'm like, wow, shit, I guess I got a keeper. I need a chauffeur. I always joke about that. How do you and Jamie?
Starting point is 01:12:39 I had a DUI and I needed somebody to drive me around. So I kept my wife at that time was just my girlfriend but we got married shortly after that. And then I just started making a lot of money, a lot of money, crazy money. And just spiraled.
Starting point is 01:12:54 out of control. I needed one car had to be better in Florida. Our parking lot had like $3 million worth of cars and just spiraled out. Then I got into the Maserati kick. I was addicted. They would see me here. Here he comes again. But they were leasing out good. So that was always
Starting point is 01:13:09 my excuse. Oh, they lease out better than Mercedes or BMWs. You know, and I had a little habit. That in sneakers. Cars and sneakers have been my... I don't like ties or fucking fancy suits. I don't like the collar thing or even at the wedding I was wearing a hat on people like
Starting point is 01:13:26 but uh the watch thing never impressed me like my little earrings but no I got a big dick he always did you always had I got a big dick and a lot of personality yeah that's you know what I'm walking in that fucking room I'm walking into the high school on a Friday night during a basketball game you better come prepared motherfucker I remember you whipped that thing out there clear the bar at Joe and Marys to get a seat you drop it on the boom you hear
Starting point is 01:13:52 that my cousin would run Oh no, the turtle. The turtle. Fuck, yeah. He had a name for it. And you would fuck with him. Then you put it in his hand once or twice. Oh, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And he didn't even know. No, and he'd run to the bathroom. If you fake with me, dog, I'd take that thing out. Put it in your hand. I remember him. On your back and your mouth. He'd run to the bathroom. He'd go, he did it to me again.
Starting point is 01:14:13 I go, what? He goes, Coco. He put his dick in my hand again. I go, how does that happen? He goes, you know, I talk and I had it down on a seat and I just feel it slap on my hand. I'm talking, getting ready to play pool, and the next thing I know, it's not the cue stick, it's his dick. You know, I'm human.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I'm a man like everybody else. I'm not good looking. My asshole smells funny. You know, I got a fungi toenail. But, you know what I'm saying? When you show up as a man, people, we're old school men. And I've never lost that. Like, I don't need a tattoo.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I've always been. I don't need a flower on my hat. I got a big dick and I'm going to eat it. Listen to me. I'm going to lick your fucking soul. I'm going to stick my tongue in your. I'm gonna lick your soul. I love you to death.
Starting point is 01:14:54 You know what I'm saying? Fuck it. Fuck it. I'm not big on anything. No, me neither. I don't need to impress. It drives me crazy. I downsized a lot.
Starting point is 01:15:04 I still have a nice car and stuff like that. And, you know, my wife's the best thing that ever happened to me, Jamie. You know, we've been together 26 years. Me too. Over 26 years. Married 26 years in July. You know, we talk about getting into trouble and stuff like that. And I'm on my way.
Starting point is 01:15:22 I'm making millions. millions of dollars. My wife's eight months pregnant. I think I told you the story down in Florida. You know, I was working for a company at the time. We were making like, I don't know, half a million dollars a week, if not more. It's just crazy money. This is when before social media and that we were under investigation. The company was under investigation before I even got there, right? I got there in 2001. They started an investigation back in the late 90s about the company. And I had left after a couple of years. I'm like, I made a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I don't like these guys here, you know. They're a bunch of showoffs. They're always going downtown Fort Myers with their fancy. They go visit Jacob de Jura. They come back with $200,000 worth of watches. And I never really dug them, you know. They weren't my crowd. Jamie got pregnant, so I'm like, yeah, let's get out of here.
Starting point is 01:16:16 So I just grabbed my memorabilia off the wall. I packed up and I left. A couple months later, I opened up my own. business. April of 2004, April 8th. It's like 5 o'clock in the morning. Jamo's in town, of course. The fucking James, like, the cops are at the fucking door. Cops are out. Like, what the fuck did he do with the rent the car? I thought Jamo got into trouble with the rent the car. No, they fucking rounded all of us up, fucking stole $14 million. As my wife is eight months pregnant, we were broke. They took everything. They seized everybody's money before they
Starting point is 01:16:52 actually arrested us. So we couldn't fire counsel. It was like we had a rat on the inside, ratted on everybody. He got caught buying drugs we found out. Still won't admit it, but we found that he did it. And he took us all down. Nobody really went to jail, though. We all got house arrest, probation and loss of funds. But for me, thank God, because I opened up my new business, that money, they took it anyway, but I said, ah, the only way I'm going to plead out, So if you give me that money back, because you're not entitled to that, that wasn't part of the investigation. I had a good attorney, too.
Starting point is 01:17:29 So they agreed to give like a half a million dollars back. But here she was, eight months pregnant, down in Florida by herself, as they're dragging her husband away, you know. Biggest arrest ever, Southwest Florida, on the TV, on ESPN, you know, for like two, three weeks. But then, 10 years earlier, you're on HBO sports. At 1997. Talking about fucking picking winners. and shit. I'm like, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:17:54 That's really starting my career, actually. HBO sports. Real sports. Los Bergen, William. Brian Gumble. Yeah. I remember everybody calling me up. They thought they were wired out of their face. I'm in Pennsylvania at the time and they're like calling me the next day. Dan, I was watching TV and there you are on TV. Two o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 01:18:13 You know, but yeah, that was in 1997. They all got Emmys for that too as well. Not me. No. I got a fucking wits to. box of Oscar de la Hoyas signed boxing world that's what I got let me ask you something how did you get this thing in florida and how did you get this thing on HBO? No no no no before you answer nobody fucking trained you you got this and what you got
Starting point is 01:18:37 walking around here I did I tied the street smarts personality and when you give like that's one thing I'm great for North Bergen people that were in this town at that time they were all Italian families that come from Hoboken and I've been abused in Hoboken by the Irish so now, you know, Rick Caposie, that whole generation, those guys were 5'8, 240, 225. They were fucking,
Starting point is 01:19:02 you know, they all looked like masons. Anthony Avillo, you know, and I don't know, it was, I'm sure Lee has a bunch of questions. Yeah, he's been quite over there, Lee. I've been listening, you're amazed? You're amazed? But it's too stoned.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Both. A mixture of both. You can understand that, because I'm not feeling the best myself here. But how I got into the business was kind of an accident. You got into it hanging out in North Pergin, talking about five times as a Joe man. Well, I was booking one time. I was always run a gambling business, you know, Owen or booking and whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Yeah, I mean, everybody, if you didn't know, you weren't a man. Everybody owed money. So, you know, 1994, I go out to California, Jamo, my cousin's out there. He's like, I'm working at a gym. he goes, yeah, we got to, in August they come out with this ad. This guy hires guys to give out picks. I'm like, who would pay anybody for a sports pick? That's how I went along with it.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I went on the interview and a guy like our New York voice, their California laid back California surfer dudes. But he was very successful. He owned the 900 numbers back in the day where you get picks, not on the internet, on the phone. And he also owns... 25,000. 20, 25, 7, depending on what...
Starting point is 01:20:18 And he also... had a huge income through sex lines, sex phones and stuff. And, you know, he hired us. Right away, it was making money. I was good. I sold the first guy I spoke to. And then somebody got sick that did radio with him. He goes, hey, listen, I need you to fill in for radio.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I'm like, I'm not the fuck. Just follow the script or say what I tell you to say and you'll be fine. And that's how it all started by accident. Somebody got sick. He asked me to fill in. And yeah, the rest is history. A year later, my mom's husband died, went to see her in Pennsylvania. I was only there for a week, supposedly.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Met a guy at a gym who introduced me to Jamie years later. He said, oh, man, this is a good business you in. Let me introduce you to this family who just opened up an offshore sports book. And they were doing radio, the Atea family. They were wrestlers, LSU. One of them won the gold was not the same. over. He lost his Schultz back in the Olympics, back in 84. And they were gang-serian gangsters, though. And they liked me and put me to work, got me on the phones. They started a radio show,
Starting point is 01:21:27 a television show. The scorephone, I'd update the scorephone. Remember that to get scores. Back at you live at the top of the hour. Let's take a look at your games underway in the first inning. It's the Yankees won nothing over Toronto. Mets getting pounded by Pittsburgh seven to nothing. Well, probably look at the score that might be happening. But, yeah, So then I wrote an article. The guy had a magazine called The Las Vegas Sporting News, and I wrote an article called Behind the Scene of a Multi-Million Dollar Scheme. HBO was, you know, they were investigating the business in 97,
Starting point is 01:22:00 and they read the article, and they wanted to meet the guy who wrote the article, and they served me up to the HBO people, and, you know, they liked me, they had me on, and they actually hired me for a couple of shows as a consultant after that, too. But because I ran the advertising, too for the company. Everybody in the business, like, you come work for us. Come to Vegas. We'll pay you a lot. We'll do this. So after two or three years, you know, Jamie, you know, we just got married. She goes, let's do this. Let's take this job in Fort Myers. You know,
Starting point is 01:22:30 the guy's telling us, I'll double your salary and make this. Grabbed our balls, went down there and sold everything, jumped in the Cadillac. Still wasn't able to drive because I had my DUI. Through my parrot literally on my shoulder. We packed the truck, the car with snow and April 19th of 2001, snowing. We got to one of the West Virginia, whatever you go through, and it was night. And we got down there, we started a radio show, and magic happened for a while anyway. But like, you know, all good things come to an end.
Starting point is 01:23:01 And we weren't even doing anything wrong. We were just giving out picks, but we were making too much fucking money. We were making too much money. The kids were getting stupid. They were all 22, 25. If you didn't make $10,000, $15,000 a week, they were sold. like fighting over. That was my lead. That was my guy on the phone. That was my client. And it just spiraled out. And I saw it coming too, though. I saw it coming. The, if we were
Starting point is 01:23:26 stuck together and people didn't rat on everybody, it would have got thrown out. But people panicked. Too much money at stake. You know, $14 million is a lot. And yeah, then, since then, I've been on my own. You know, we moved back to Pennsylvania shortly after that, like a year later. he was born in Florida under duress I should say that might account for a lot of them it's funny because you and I at that time
Starting point is 01:23:53 were the only guys in our clique that were traveling yeah everybody else stayed in our pregnant oh yeah we're going on to Belmar and me and this motherfucker traveled all around the country right I'm trying to beat two Cubans in Miami and then I end up in L.A.
Starting point is 01:24:10 finally succumbed to my uncle and I go to L.A. and the first two days of my uncle is fucking brutal. He's just running me ragged on fucking attitude about my mother, telling me how she was involved with people. And I'm like, you know what? You opened this bar because of my fucking mother. Where's my end?
Starting point is 01:24:32 He was like, you got to stay at a hotel and all this shit. And he let me stay on top of the bar. And when I just robbed him. I said, enough is enough. I fucking put a hole in the wall. He gave me a bartending job And I just draw hundreds in there Oh man
Starting point is 01:24:47 And that night he kept bugging me more And I'm like fuck this motherfucker I kicked the door And I took the money out of that fucking hole As I turn around There's my fucking uncle With a gun in his hand And he's like get out
Starting point is 01:24:58 Leave the money And I already had like a thousand in my sock I wasn't going nowhere I gave him the money I had this jewelry I'm upstairs and I walked out And I may believe And I pulled the gun on him
Starting point is 01:25:09 How you like me now motherfucker And he goes, you're an animal like your mother. Get out of here. And my cab came. Like you, that's awful. And I got it because he kept saying that my brother was a murderer. Because my mother stuck up for his sister. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:22 A sister was getting raped. And my mother stuck a bottle of him. So he kept saying, you got your mother's blood. You're a murderer. I never forget getting in the fucking cab and just telling the cab drive, take me something. I was fucking. My spirit was done. Like, this was my last hope.
Starting point is 01:25:37 My uncle. He's my mother's brother. Right. And he's breaking my fucking balls. I got a rob. I'm back to where I started. And here I am in this hotel in Orange County. And I called that.
Starting point is 01:25:48 I remember that too. You showed up with J-Mo with a pizza. And dog, I'm out. I'm like, fucking. They just walked in. I remember the jewelry. Right there. They gave me like $150.
Starting point is 01:26:01 And I fucking, they left me a pizza. They goofed on me. Look at the shape of you. You're bleeding. You're nose. I remember that, man. Oh, my God. That was terrible.
Starting point is 01:26:09 So. You guys left. And I didn't want to get caught by the police. So I get back on People's Express. You don't have to pay to you got on the plane with the credit card. I'm 99-dollar flights. There was no credit card in my world. In fact, that.
Starting point is 01:26:23 Unless it was stolen. I'll never forget that I kept on the lady. I had money on me. I kept down, lady, lady. The cards are my luggage. Don't worry about none. We'll catch you next time, bro. When I got out of the newer, there were three cops waiting for me.
Starting point is 01:26:37 They took me downstairs. They searched through my shit. I kept saying I got no money. I lost my whole wallet. I couldn't say I had money in my sock. So you're not getting here until we pay this. Like Paul Veneery, at 6.30 in the morning to give him this credit card over the phone. He was pissed.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Anthony, yeah. We go back quite a while. Yeah, he had his black El Dorado Barrett's then. I remember that. Black elder. My memory's still pretty sure. All the shit I did to myself, I still can remember shit. But you don't remember what you did yesterday for breakfast.
Starting point is 01:27:09 I don't really eat breakfast That was an easy answer No my memory is still pretty good But when I drink though The kids have got to tell me dad You gotta stop I do black out from drinking sometimes But it's all in fun
Starting point is 01:27:23 They're like I wake up like I'm so I'm like did I work out last night When I was drinking out like dad You would like doing pushups You're one handed You started working out with that thing And I'm like Oh God
Starting point is 01:27:33 Don't wrestle in the kids You know They're younger I know I still feel like and fight them, but they're younger. I can still fuck them. And I've always told, like, Lee and everybody else,
Starting point is 01:27:44 falling up, we weren't bad kids. No. It's not like, we're lighting people on fire. I read, chilling people and burying them in the woods and shit. That's not a bad kid, dude. That's a fucking... Serial killer. We were having the best time we could have for what they gave us.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Yeah, we were all tough, though. Everybody was tough. Everybody knew how to fight. Fight and get around. Yep. And then you learn how to fight for what's yours. Right. And then you just learned this.
Starting point is 01:28:09 There was a mentality growing up here. And it was that old Italian blue-collar Irish. Right. That was what this area was about. And it really inspires you when you see these guys at Ray Dalton's bar. You look at their hands and their fucking hands are hanging. They're drinking and you're like, you know what? That's not what I want to do.
Starting point is 01:28:31 But listen to what that guy's saying. He's talking, he's dropping knowledge I here. We were around really good people when we grew up. we're around a couple of bad people. Mm-hmm. The good people we had in our lives were fucking that good. Yep. They were.
Starting point is 01:28:45 They looked out for you. They were that good. And we got looked out after. And again, my daughter, your sons will never know that. Well, they hear the stories. They hear the stories, but to see it, we also read about George Washington and the slips. You know what'd that get us?
Starting point is 01:29:01 But my sons also hear other people co-signing it so they know my stories are true. and I do leave out a lot of stuff because I'm ashamed of some of the stuff or I don't want them to know. What are you fucking ashamed of? Some of the things I did. I'm not a shit. Listen,
Starting point is 01:29:16 I ask myself once a year. I got to say there's things I wish I didn't do. That might be better. The things I wish I didn't do weren't crimes. The things I wish I didn't do were the people who love me. The people I went off the renovation, reservation where
Starting point is 01:29:33 that they really loved me. There's one in particular. I stopped talking to her and she died. Until this day, I think about it. Like, every fucking day in the shower. I'm like, man, thank God she looks over me. But me robbing Michael, shit, I'd do it again. Me robbing a drug dealer,
Starting point is 01:29:50 and I'm telling me having a cat. I'd do that again. You know, I would say the only people I ever robbed were drug dealers. Yeah. I never took down a store or anything. No, everybody was in the fucking game. And we did it properly, and we really thought we were the men. and we got away with a lot.
Starting point is 01:30:08 Things I'm ashamed of, I guess we'd be like just selling drugs to my friends and stuff, looking back, you know, I wish I can take that back. No and now that, you know, a lot of people never came back from that. You know, I wasn't alone, but that's about it when I say I'm ashamed. And maybe that was the wrong word, but I wish I didn't get involved in that part. Wish I could have avoided that. Your son, my daughter, even if they go to a fucking club in Atlantic's on a Saturday night, get in the middle and jump up and down.
Starting point is 01:30:40 They'll never have the amount of accessibility we'd add here. Lee, we didn't snore Coke. You didn't snore Coke. It's like we are now. Lee, I love to do heroin with you. I tease you. But I don't. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:57 Everybody gave you. There was no such thing as you're a push to you if you don't do this. We never worked that way. No. We did it. because you did it. Yeah. Nobody put a gun to your head.
Starting point is 01:31:09 If you wanted, you knew that your parents were at the Board of Education or you knew that your father was a cop, where you knew that your father was the chief of police. So it was all on you, what you wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:31:21 You know, I think if I would have had a mother, I wouldn't have done that, but that's bullshit. I was going to do it no matter of it. I had a mother and I still dead. Yeah. And so, yeah, that's not. So you have to consider it wasn't,
Starting point is 01:31:33 I don't say that we were junkies. The availability, In 1980, 1980 to 85, with drugs, you had a better chance again, announce a cocaine for free than, like, common things. Like, you might take you a week to find the job, but you'll find the motherfucker the same day. That will say, take to see what you could do, and I'll be back in a week.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Is it like weed now or even more intense? It's dog. All we have now is weed and edibles in a store. And then when you go out on Friday night, so you go to Ultra, you have festivals and you have pink cocaine and all these other drugs that kids are doing today. And that's fine.
Starting point is 01:32:16 I'm not ever angling on them. I'm not saying that. But the amount of availability here, there was mescalingly. There was acid always in time. There was no mushrooms. That was a west coast. No, there was a lot of mescal.
Starting point is 01:32:29 A lot of mescal. A lot of fucking that. And all you had to do, Lee, was either go over that Lincoln Tunnel or go over that, bridge and you could do things nobody needed to know. Did they have a train back then or no? It doesn't fucking matter.
Starting point is 01:32:44 They did have a train. They had everything. We had police escorts. One of our buddies, a cop would just put the badge out there, free travel through the tunnel, nobody fucked with you. Yeah, no idea, Lee. So that was America's playground. Now you see white people smoking vapors.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Oh, my God, I love this cafe in Alphabet City. You want to go up to them and smack them in the face. Like if you knew what went on this street 30 years ago, you wouldn't even walk on this fucking street. Meanwhile, you're sitting here with that fucking snick-a-doodle. I don't know who's ugly or the dog or your fucking skinny boyfriend. You got one of those dogs? And you're smoking a vapor pen.
Starting point is 01:33:19 They're all faggy fucking dogs. My point is they had no idea what the, what they was sitting on. Manhattan was a place that you went at 11, not to come home at one. No. That was never going to happen. In the afternoon. You were going to find yourself in a car with us with sunglasses on. coming over to Brisbane, man, that was fun.
Starting point is 01:33:38 It ain't even done. We're going to Sharpos. We're going to Ernie's to pick up three cases. And the other cars, we're going to get a hotel room. We're not even fucking done. I thought I was going to go to work at 10. Tell them it's over. I missed the last two days.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Quit. It's over. That's how easy. And you had a new job on Friday. I was in the elevator's union real quick for like three or four weeks. And the guys were laid back. I was a, you know, I helped with the tool. It was a good job, Otis Elevator.
Starting point is 01:34:08 And that's how I wound up, Quinn. I got my first check. It was for like $900. I'd looked at it. And I was like, you know what? Fuck this. I ain't go. I'm having a good time.
Starting point is 01:34:19 And plus, I just made $3,000 yesterday. Yeah. It's fucking insane. Yeah. It was insane. After a while, you're like, why am I getting a job poor? I can make more money sitting at Midtown
Starting point is 01:34:29 and running errands, like going to give somebody a ride out of the city. It became too easy. That's what it was. And it was so much accessibility. The accessibility, I couldn't handle. That's why I left. It was overwhelming. It was accessibility for women, drugs, hideouts.
Starting point is 01:34:45 If you didn't want to drink in North Bergen, you went to Union City to his uncle's, his great-uncle's bar and drank there. If not, you went to Hoboken to a dive. If the cops were looking for you, you went to Guttenberg to that whole, what's the apartment building? The first one we spoke about? The galaxy had a little bar in there in the corner. It made the best DACA reason.
Starting point is 01:35:06 and you could snort, you could do anything in there. Nobody knew anything. That's where you go to hide? Yeah, that's where you went with abroad. Nobody was said, then I had an apartment upstairs because I was the maintenance man. So I'd see who needed a room,
Starting point is 01:35:20 and I'd go to their fucking rooms and sit there with their robes on and shit like fucking Marlon Brando. It's a different fucking world. And I'm happy. I'm very happy that our kids don't see this, but in a way I'm sad that the kids, you'd mention my boy.
Starting point is 01:35:36 that dude never talked to me again. Paris Pizziona. Oh, Paris? And I loved him. There was one kid I really loved the Northland. I just talked to him the other day on the phone. You know, he became a state trooper. What he won't tell you is the time we were in the city in the eighth grade.
Starting point is 01:35:50 He went to a peep show and his neck got stuck. Oh, gosh. On one of those things where you don't put enough quarters in? Doug, who does that happen to him? He's a state trooper, isn't he? Don't he become a cop? Oh, Paris? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Oh, Paris stayed in California after the Navy, and he became a, an aircraft mechanic. Oh, okay. I thought he was something like a... Bro, I was nervous of driving there. And one night he pulled me over. You're the motherfucker. It wasn't Paris then.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Paris joined the Navy in 79 and never came back. Stayed in California. I met Paris. So Paris was like 16 when he joined the name. Well, 17, you have to be. We all joined at the same time. Because I played basketball with him in the eighth grade. Oh, he was a good ball player.
Starting point is 01:36:28 He was an excellent ballplay. He wasn't good in school, but he did good... No, no. He stayed in San Diego and did very well for himself. actually he was just in Jersey to attend the wedding this weekend with Denise Mick. You know Denise Mick. Is that where you went for that wedding?
Starting point is 01:36:43 No, no. He was cousins with him in some way. Yeah, they are cousins. They're like second cousins or some shit like that. But yeah, think about that, Lee. Being in the eighth grade, telling Mommy, you're excited about your baddest. And all of a sudden, you're in the city at 10th the morning
Starting point is 01:36:57 after we smoked a joint. And now we're playing three car Monty with a bunch of brothers and a bunch of German tourists watching it. And then from there, after you lost your money, you walked up two more blocks. And next thing, you know, we're talking to one of those guys that barks outside the dingiest strip club. You've ever seen your life. They had barkers for strip clubs?
Starting point is 01:37:18 Oh, yeah, big motherfuckers. Come on in. Come on in. Come on in. Meet the girls. Oh, yeah. They'd wait in. 13, like, shit.
Starting point is 01:37:26 And we'd sit down the girls to sit on your lap. And at that time, every hand that you had on your body came out. You were like an octopus. You were grabbing assholes. And they'd say, oh, stop. it you have to buy me champagne and then the champagne would come it was like abyss and they wanted 20 bucks and it's like i ain't got 20 bucks all right get out we would do that from strip club to strip i remember those little champagne bottles yeah those little champagne bottles wait they pull you right off
Starting point is 01:37:50 the street you're in the fucking eighth grade dude i can't even i wouldn't have been a lot to walk around new york by myself in the eighth grade i don't think what probably not you will live the sheltered life young man that's true well so like i said some parents your daughter's getting close to eighth grade Yeah, would I let her walk over there? Right now, it would be a shock to the system, but yes, if she went with girls that knew what they were doing, a little older. Okay, but she's not scared to go over there.
Starting point is 01:38:17 No, I wouldn't have... Right now, in her little fucking mind. I would have, I would have loved to have done it, yeah. Yeah, they're not prepared, but they are. That's how you get prepared. Shit. First time she walks past a junkie jerking off. First time she walks past somebody fucking puking,
Starting point is 01:38:30 first time she walks somebody bleeding, yeah, bleed. that's how you go okay I got a really fucking I can tell you all you want Lee don't look at your phone when you go down there please look straight at
Starting point is 01:38:42 y'alloping donut shops and also some guy gets hit by a car and ain't nobody stopping the guy's just getting hit over and over again bab boom bab boom bab boom bab boom bab boom I got to tell you something that's going to make everybody very happy the fact
Starting point is 01:39:01 I'm going to announce a date on it it's going to be that big. So last week, my daughter got me. Call of Duty. I don't. Those video games? The video games. Again, we don't need video games.
Starting point is 01:39:14 We lived. Exactly. I don't think you lived called. I was never good at that stuff. I said, enough is enough. Rand Deft Auto, would you believe? So I went upstairs. We couldn't get the Call of Duty to work,
Starting point is 01:39:23 but she did have Grand Theft Auto. Holy shit. Grand Theft Auto was us. I just said, would you believe Grand Theft Auto? Holy shit. all I know is it took me an hour to got out of the parking lot and then I kept losing Lamar
Starting point is 01:39:37 you lost Lamar Lamar Lamar Lamar Who the fuck is Lamar And then there was a scene I couldn't control the steering wheel I controlled the speed and shit But the steering wheel dog I was hitting pedestrians
Starting point is 01:39:51 I was hitting hot dog people I brought a old lady With mercy was like dad You hit an old lady fuck her I mean we were fucking going off Oh dude you don't even have to do missions, they would be hysterical, but you can just go around and killing hookers and robbing people.
Starting point is 01:40:05 That's all I would. No, no, no. It's not that listen. Anybody I killed, I killed on accident. I'm not going to sit here and tell you, oh, you should have seen me. I was horrible. I got to practice the gun war. But this is left, this is right, this, I don't know, this is shooting, then there's a star
Starting point is 01:40:22 triangle. Oh, I couldn't ever do that. To get in the car. So you have a PlayStation. Okay. And then there's a circle for him to throw punches and shit like that. Don't they have grenade launches on those things? Oh, yeah. Listen, let's start basic. I ain't no fucking James Bond, okay?
Starting point is 01:40:37 But I tell you what, even when my wife got home, my wife was fucking howling. I told you. I was really like fucking had to stop a few times because I thought I was going to sick. So I can't imagine. I'm that bad. I could put a season premiere of Uncle Joey plays,
Starting point is 01:40:57 call of whatever. That would be funny. And Devado. And put it on Twitch. It's going to be all over to shout. That would be huge. That'll be the biggest entertainment. It's the legalist.
Starting point is 01:41:06 I don't know what I'm doing. Okay, anybody can go on there and go, look at me. Me going on there with 22 joints in me and 2,000 milligrams, just hitting poles and shit. Because you can't kill that car. There was a scene when I was chasing somebody. Right. In the snow.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Right. I couldn't get out of the snow. I kept falling backwards. You were in the snow? Oh, yeah. Come on, Lee. Come on, man. Once you don't know with that one, you have to do Red Dead Red Dead Redemption, too.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Okay. Or your cowboy. Let me be playing number two. That would really be entertaining because I, even back in the 70s, the Atari, I could, I was horrible back then. We weren't cut out. Oh, my cousin Jammel would tear up silver ball. Remember silver ball? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:48 It was the king of silver ball, but he was also selling six for five joints. Remember six for five? How long were you playing Grand Theft Auto for? A stone, edible dog. Oh. I was fucking loving. Well, perfectly, especially after your son. surgery.
Starting point is 01:42:01 I would laugh. Oh, I'm going to get really good during my surgery. You're going to get better. Yeah, wait until they give me those pain pills. The first three days, they give me those. You'll be running all the people for sure. Oh, I'm going to be running over things. I've watched the kids play, and I'm like, they really have games like this?
Starting point is 01:42:14 It's never been in my thing. But once I started seeing them, how realistic they are. They are. You watch Army shows. They're watching them. They're about to come out with a new one. Which one? Grand Theft Auto.
Starting point is 01:42:26 A new one? Yeah, it's been years. That five has been out for, like, wow. I don't know that one. I got to get myself in one of those shows because that is my life. They get up and they just rob. Cause people.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Yeah, but I got killed. You know what's funny thing? They said lesbian. He got killed a few times, right? You've been killed a bunch of times. Oh, my God. I did Mafia 3. I know your movies.
Starting point is 01:42:48 They always seem to kill you off. Yeah, I get killed. Yeah, it got blown off and the Saints of Nook. It's a fucking nice. They had to hire writers. Rockstar took years and years to develop a story that you're saying it was just your life. I'm counting that
Starting point is 01:43:00 You were in a Vito game I didn't know that Whatever I played the other day Right Was just a regular day For me in the old day You get up Were you the crazy guy
Starting point is 01:43:10 The black guy Or the guy in the suit I was all of them mixed in one Do you know what I'm saying I'm my own I remember the island Of Dr. Moreau Yeah
Starting point is 01:43:18 I'm Dr. Moro John Voight The actor was John Voight That we did what The island of Dr. Moriot No it was Martin Brando Did it 1919000
Starting point is 01:43:28 Well he did something Wasn't he in it with him? John Void? I don't know. We're talking about a video game. It's the fucking damn weed you gay, man. I'm sitting here just trying to... You know, I ate edibles.
Starting point is 01:43:40 I don't know how you're doing, especially with that staircase out there. Oh, fuck the staircase. You need an elevator. I remember one that we had a party, Hudson County Park. On the river, you know, on the little island. And you had a walk on top of the ice.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Telling stories about that. When you took your son, they used to have, and they used to roll a keg of, cross. This was not known to Fokoraccio. That part of town were the fearless leaders. They invented that. The Broadway boys. Yeah. We know you're, what's Cuomo's? That was them. They would push the cake across, launch it, and then start drinking. They invited me one year. It was the coldest night of the fucking winter. They did talk to that way. And my stupid Cuban ass wears a flannel with a hooded sweatshirture. Thank God I had some quailudes because I ate some quailudes and I went to the wing
Starting point is 01:44:27 for them with folk and lube. We watched Folkarajah ate a lube, a loo, and he just fell asleep with folk fried rice. And he has a big nose, so he started... Ringo. He was fucking breathing and snoring. He was a madman. And Loobs was like,
Starting point is 01:44:41 wake up. Joe, don't, wake up. You're in embarrassing me and all this shit. Fuck it. And then I ended up walking home, and I ended up falling asleep. In the apartment building, dragging grocery. They just had it on Facebook last week. But in the 70s, they made the best Chinese food there on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:44:57 But if you went next door to it, there was an apartment building. And upstairs, Lisa Gnipknop lived. She was a high Jewish girl. Gnipkenak? Yeah, she was a Jewish girl. I didn't know how to say her last name. So we just called the Lisa Gnipkenab. She was fucking beautiful, dog.
Starting point is 01:45:12 But I woke up one morning like this. In the door jam with my feet keeping the door open. When I woke up, the sweatshirt was light blue, but it had like a thin frost on it. I was like the tin man. I was frozen, dog. People say it lose fingers and shit. Not when you eat two quailutes from the village in those days.
Starting point is 01:45:33 Those guys did, they were the original tough guys, Fokoraccio, Duffy. Who's the other? There was a few of them that. Avello was involved in that crew. But Joe Foke always reminded me of Ringo Starr. If you look at his younger pictures. He's a great, man.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Joe. He's a great fucking guy. He's down in North Carolina now. Yeah. He moved down there. I see him on Facebook. I go back and forth from some time. I always loved him.
Starting point is 01:45:57 He drove me to get Pink Floyd tickets and fucking were driving on the turnpite. 19. It's 1979. Maybe two weeks after my mother died. And I get in the car with him, let's go. That's when he was in bed. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:46:11 That was him, too. Seven in the morning drinking. Fucking, we gotta stop. I think it was me and Dedy and Loubs in the car. And we're driving. He goes, give me that fucking joint. He starts smoking the joint. And the thing falls and it burns his shirt.
Starting point is 01:46:26 And also, you know those little orange barrels? He just fucking hit one, and the barrel went up like 80 feet in the air that we all were like, holy fuck. And it just landed like on the other lane. Cars are going around this shit. Oh, my God. Yeah, I think he was the original Madman, Joe,
Starting point is 01:46:45 one of the original. He was a good hockey player, him and his brother Ralph. They used to have these parties right next to Mareg's in Gamio's house. and Gabriel had in the garage that you pulled in like this but there was always a painter's ladder in the garage and it led to a little attic all right and he would have parties up there but you gotta remember there was no door
Starting point is 01:47:06 you just walked up and one Halloween Joe went dressed at the devil he was always the devil because that was his nickname the devil Joe LaFolk Satan Satan that's what he was Satan so he had the red suit on the whole thing I remember that outfit me and your uncle and Lou who are eating gorilla biscuits, fucking around with him,
Starting point is 01:47:26 talking about Satan and all this shit. We keep walking them back. One inch of time. Yeah, we keep walking back. And the hole was right there, dog. And there was a drop like that. And also we kept walking him back. And he goes, happy 10-12.
Starting point is 01:47:41 And that's all you heard. And we all went back to see him, and he landed on his head and his horns were bent. And he's like, he's bleeding from one side. Didn't care, probably. This was like every other weekend. We would do acid and go in that attic
Starting point is 01:47:57 and see who we could throw down that fucking home. Oh, my God. Yeah, he was crazy. They hung out at the Yon Tap a lot, too. Cabuccino was joining, yeah. I remember I had my first out of the Army. That was the first place I went for a drink was at the On Top and the Colonnade.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Remember the Colonnade? And then you had that... I never went to any of those. No, you didn't go to the Tic Tac. I was too young even for Corkies. I would eat pizza at Knicks and watch what happened at Korky's. I mean, like, man, I can't turn. He was very strict about being 21 or 18.
Starting point is 01:48:34 He was 18 back. Yeah, we were grandfathered on here. He was fucking, he was old school with that shit. You can't go in my bar. Oh, Tabuccino. No, no, no, no. Porky. It was Tom and Corkees.
Starting point is 01:48:45 Yeah, yeah, I remember. And he sold it, and he called it Gregory's seven-day weekend. Oh, that was a madhouse, too. Oh. Right there on the corn Monday nights when they had the They used to do those Walker orange juices
Starting point is 01:48:58 Bluebirds for $2. Didn't John Kelly work at the ball there? Sunday nights. My rest is so. Yeah, I was shocked to hear that, unfortunately. Just like that. That's how life is.
Starting point is 01:49:07 That's why he, every day I wake up, I try to enjoy myself. I felt so bad when he died that morning. Oh, I saw it on Facebook. I felt so guilty. I'm like, I'm going to have to go to his wake. I used to throw ice cubes at him.
Starting point is 01:49:19 On Sunday nights, bro, we used to bombard him. It was a different one. He was, we did pick up. on him a bed at the ball. Every time he'd turn around, the whole ball would throw ice cubes out. You would just see the ice cubes. They would take him like four minutes to turn around.
Starting point is 01:49:31 He'd go, motherfucker. And then he would turn around and go, the next person who throws an ice cube, I'm throwing you out, and he'd turn around and every fucking body would throw an ice cube. One night he just left. I think I remember that.
Starting point is 01:49:43 He left, dog. That was a hot spot. Yeah, and they made a good steak there, too. Sunday nights was, no, not at Corky. Gregory's, when Gregory opened up. Yeah, Gregory opened up. Yeah, Greg was. Corker was a madman when he was on a marching powder.
Starting point is 01:49:58 I remember when he fought, he had a fight with Nick the pizza man. And they were out there throwing snowballs at each other, calling each other, motherfuck, that's another guy. And we're in high school. Just getting a slice of pizza. And these motherfuckers, I still remember being out there at 11, and the door would open the night before. They'd be like three guys with blood on their shirts.
Starting point is 01:50:18 They'd hug each other. Oh, see you next week. And you're like, fuck. I can't wait to be able to go in that bar to see what the fuck goes in that. Fucking weird times. There's some bars that we were getting. What was that strip, the cold?
Starting point is 01:50:32 Remember the cove? Oh, with the guy that had the wig, the ugly chicks. They were one. Guttenberg. Oh, my God. Everybody was allowed in the cove. The scoreboard.
Starting point is 01:50:40 The guy had a wig. And I remember my finger the girl one day had to take three shots. Right on the bar, right? My whole body stunk from finger like a cute mulata girl. And Holloway got rest of soul. It was in love with her.
Starting point is 01:50:51 and he was trying to fuck her. My God, those were fucking, that was that strip club. Then you had the one on Tunley when we were way before the one-year-old. Oh, that was a fun spot there. It wasn't there long, though. The Army base. Oh, yeah. The Navy base was it called?
Starting point is 01:51:06 Naval Base. I was a Metal-Ans-in guy with the bottles and the pussy. I really wasn't much into the strip clubs. I did it. I went along for the ride with them, but I wasn't, that wasn't my thing. I went to the Obergan brothers took me to the 10-20 club. Remember Jesus? I loved him.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Love them. Big Led Zeppelin fan. And they had a candy company. So at night, he would steal his father's candy truck and take you to Harlem to cop. You'd be in the back, snorting coke. There'd be M&Ms. Fucking frosted peanuts.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Everything you need with weed. I'm snorting coke. I don't need any of this shit. He passed away too, right? Yeah, I heard a fucking film. Because they were filming the night before. He would sneak it out at 12 and go to 88 feet parks. Who's coming into the city with me?
Starting point is 01:51:48 I'd be there and knocking any cook. I still remember fucking canned. The fucking candy everywhere. Snickers, $100,000 bars, lollipop. My favorite. Those blow pops and the lollipops are the two flavored. I used to take like 25 of them. He would come out.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Who took all those fucking two? My father's gonna freak. Was he like selling it? Like an ice cream truck? His father had wholesale. Wholesale? Okay. And his father was also partners on a candy store
Starting point is 01:52:12 where Pathmark is today. There used to be a candy store there. Not like a, it wasn't a, candy store that you went in there was a candy wholesale place. Come on. And they used to sell devil bubble bubble gum. Devil bubble gum. Spicy.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Oh. And this is 1975 when there was no FDA. They just threw like fucking pigs feet in there. You were chewing. It was so fucking good. The red hot pepper spray. There was R.C. Cola was over that. Oh, that's the worst.
Starting point is 01:52:47 You like R.C. Cola? For a quarter in the summer, a dime. It was gross. For a whole big bottle, a dime. I remember it was... They were by here, and then 38th Street, we had the iced tea company. Yep. So for 30 cents, they give you an iced tea.
Starting point is 01:53:00 Arizona? Or a lemonade. Arizona? No, that wasn't even thought of that. You got cancer from iced tea. That bottle shit came in the 90s, though. What the hell was the brand that everybody used back then? What was it?
Starting point is 01:53:14 Yeah, you got Clayton. And I like, I always like lipped in the powder. Yeah, yeah. And we all had... You dope it up with some lemons and then. extra orange. The country time. I don't like countries.
Starting point is 01:53:24 I like lemonade. Cubas make lemonade. All right. Cubans throw sugar in there. It's a metal pot that's been dented and they squeeze the fucking lemons, two limes, and then they throw some santaia juice, a tons of liquid. Thought it was a pleasure seeing you. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:53:40 Yeah. Yeah, it was great. I appreciate you having me. It's been too long. Come on during football season. Oh, whatever. Whenever, I'm a phone call away, always. I love seeing you.
Starting point is 01:53:48 It's been too long. I had a blast here. Unfortunately, I was a little rocked. It was a little, what? That's not wrong with that, right? Nothing. And I'm holding my... You were sitting here, snort and coke?
Starting point is 01:53:58 Oh, no. No, that'll never see me in that matter. That'll never have you. Again, I told you a couple years ago he slipped up, but it wasn't... I would love to get my hands on a quail. And I had a couple... I put a lemon 714, right? Ooh.
Starting point is 01:54:12 There was that kid, North Bergen, don't mention no names. His mother was dying of cancer. So on the first of the month, she... He would sell all her pills. They used to give her tumult. Oh, Tumannols. He would sell him for $45 a piece in 1980. Secondals, Tumannols.
Starting point is 01:54:28 You want to get fucked up. You split one of those fucking pills. M66. And fucking, you see the devil. $45 a pill. The 714s, though, they were considered a pretty safe pill back in a day. It wasn't addicted. I just watched something on social media about it.
Starting point is 01:54:47 Bro, the funniest story was when I saw that. one kid that you sang out with Rego before he died. His sister had a barbershop on Kennedy Boulevard across from Knicks. Not Rocky Oli. Fuck. I think I know who you're talking about. I was a kid and I remember him going, hey, you want to do a Quailu? On a Friday night.
Starting point is 01:55:04 I'm like, no, I'm good. I was like a soccer ball. And he went up to 46th Street Hill. That's a mean hill. He lived on the bottom of that fucking hill. And the next day I saw him and the bike was ruined. He had stitches. Oh.
Starting point is 01:55:19 He ain't those quailudes who are for a bike ride. Oh, man. A lot of great stories. I mean, we can sit here to midnight and beyond to finish them. And once we get going, there's another story that'll remind you of that time and another time. Next time we come, we'll tell him the New Year's 83 story. Oh, when I bit Roger's ear off? God rest of the soul, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:38 That was 82. 82 turning 83. 82, yeah. Remember I just robbed? Yeah. And I was only in town. It was that Joanne Ligios. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:49 Poor Roger. I kind of warned him, though. And then Conti tried to break it up, and I just thought, he goes, oh, I'm good. Look, at that time, we were going to parties. We were going to part. I still remember going to a party two nights before that. Rousseau had a cousin, Wayne or something like that.
Starting point is 01:56:05 Oh, his cousin. Yeah, Georgie Clegg, one of the clags. No, some other guy. A friend of a cousin. Not Freddie Clegg did. There was another cousin, Georgie. Something. And they were, we got there, and we were like animals.
Starting point is 01:56:17 They passed a hat around. And I think Rousseau took the hat with the money in it If they were like, what happened to that? It's ours. That type of shit. Yeah. Like that type of shit. It was like we were getting thrown out of Christmas parties.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Roger would roll up at your house and right in front of your parents, grandparents or whatever. He'd be talking to George and listen to go, hold on. He'd spit on your rug. And you sit there like, what the fuck, Roger? He was doing that that whole night on New Year's year. He was on fire. He used to get messed up. So he'd be here with you.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Your mother could be in the corner serving us. He'd be over here going off. Wasn't he pissing a lot in the bars and stuff? With me and him would piss on Lila's dog. That's right. Every other fucking Friday. That dog would get up dripping. Speed hot.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Because our job was to piss on that fucking dog. I remember that. We get so fucked up. What about when I gave you the quailudes? And I told you they were quailudes and everybody slept for three days. I remember something vaguely. Like, what the fuck did he give us? I used to rob the janitor at the high school.
Starting point is 01:57:16 Oh, the one that got the epileptic medicine. was, right? The fucking nothing. I remember that. Because the first couple of weeks, it was all value, but the container. I would go up to him,
Starting point is 01:57:24 buy him a mug. A mug was a dollar back then. 60 cents with a bag of chips. He wouldn't say two words. I buy him a mug of beer. Like, go in his pocket, go in the back and take the valiums out and put everything back.
Starting point is 01:57:36 This went on for weeks. We would wait for him on Friday. He's like, where is you? I don't know. He's coming. We know when they watched the floors at the high school, on those nights he's having to death till midnight.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Where is this guy? I don't know. He'd walk. walk in, sit down, we send them a beer. I go up, hug them, pick pocket, and one night, I go in the bathroom, no value. These white pills, and they look like Quayluch. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:57:58 I took them all out. Everybody salivating. Where the pills? Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We got no Xanax, no valium tonight. Tonight we got baby Quailuch. They're from France. I was fucked up.
Starting point is 01:58:10 And these idiots are eating them like, pa, pa, pa, pa. I went home like every other idiot. Until I woke up the next day, and I was like, no. I didn't take any of that. It took me three days. I remember Jamo was a mess from it.
Starting point is 01:58:23 Jamo was a mess. I think Greg was a mess. I remember that, yeah. The only person who asked from all was Furni Bossa Sudo. God bless you. Everybody else was like, those are the worst things I ever took Fernie's life. That was a fun place, Joe and Marys. I know we're winding down, but that was one of my favorite spots playing pool.
Starting point is 01:58:40 You know, they always play. John Cowan brought the chicken. God rest of the school. Good baseball player. Oh. My old baseball. My old paper boy. He was my paper boy.
Starting point is 01:58:48 I still remember being in there for John Kelly's birthday and my birthday. A very close together. It's the 17th and the 19th. So Judy, the great lady that she is, would always throw a birthday party for us. And one night she got an ice cream cake. Everybody was doing so much coke. Nobody touched the ice cream cake.
Starting point is 01:59:07 It just melted. She just stood there crying. Like, nobody ate the cake. I'm like, Judy, because we ate different type of cake tonight. Well, getting back before we cut this up, Remember, my mother had a huge party at the VFW. And I went over there and ate the chicken. You loved the chicken.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Nobody showed up. My stepfather's 50th. Nobody liked the guy. So nobody showed up. And it was my mother's like crying over the food. I go, I'll solve that problem. I went into Joe Emery's. I whistled.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Whoever could eat came and eat, if not. I know you took down all the chicken. I took down all the chicken. He's like that cocoa really liked that chicken. Oh. I tell him to come back. There's plenty left. Fun time.
Starting point is 01:59:46 It was a different world. But you know what? We're still here to talk about it. Yeah, good memories, good friends. A lot of moved on, unfortunately. What do you think? What you can talk to me? Tell me something.
Starting point is 01:59:55 Yeah, what's up with you? You're very quiet for a comedian. Yeah. I'm doing my list. I don't know. You guys have a lot to talk about. What do you do on stage? I'm sure you have more energy.
Starting point is 02:00:05 No. What do you do? Sign language? No, I just sit there and stare at you for 15 minutes. I was Dallas. I'm sorry? I was Dallas. Fort Worth with Jess and May was great.
Starting point is 02:00:15 Great, great shows. a fun club. Jessime is the silliest. She was hitting on, we went to the stockyard and she had me go hit on Cowboys for her. The guy was married to his eighth grade, sweetheart, she was pissed.
Starting point is 02:00:28 She was just taking pictures of dudes in like cowboy boots and like salivating over him. She was the funniest. So you got into comedy through Coco then, really? Through the podcast, yeah. Podcast led on to it. I was always a fan,
Starting point is 02:00:40 but I never thought I'd be a stand-up. Were you a fan of Coco before you met him? I had just moved out. I reached out to Jay. Joey maybe a month or two into living in LA. So I heard him on Rogan's podcast. Okay, that's where it started for you. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:00:54 A lot of people, that's how you met the other one, Mike Klein, through your podcast. I knew him before the podcast. But yeah, I'm very excited. I'm going to be headlining Uncle Vinnie's Wednesday and Thursday. Nice. And then I'll be in Toronto with Josh Wolf Jacob on Friday and Saturday. Very good.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Good for you. I got nothing. And you got West Niagara. I'm proud of you. Are you kidding me? I got West Niagara. on Wednesday, and I'm going to go down open for Bert at Ocean.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Oh, he's funny. I like him. Either Friday or Saturday and on a boat. Let's see how I feel. How was he as a person? Good? Very good. He was my neighbor. Really? He's fucking funny. I know you did a little thing when he was smoking cigars together. I forgot. Yeah, yeah, on Netflix. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:38 But he's one of the good ones. Then I just watched something with him where he decided not to take his shirt off. Like people are like you got a... He's got a sitcom on that. Yeah, it was a series. I was pretty fucking good. you know, it wasn't his best work, but it was good. But I always liked him and who's the other one?
Starting point is 02:01:56 Tom Segorah? Yeah, their buddies on that booze, right? I was in Texas last week. I never went to his bakery. Oh, no. Oh, that was good as fuck. Oh, yeah. No, but he's definitely funny.
Starting point is 02:02:07 But you, out of all of them, you're my hero. I'm proud of you. You did good, brother. You did really good, proud. Fucking shit on the corner. You worked your way up. You know what I like really about you? You pay, a lot of people don't understand, besides paying you
Starting point is 02:02:20 do is on the street. You did it through the, you know, Hollywood. You didn't, nothing was given into you. You know, you worked hard and you were so, uh, when I was at the, the movie Inside game, the premiere and I was with Scott Wolf and Will Saso. I remember you call me, tell them, tell them I say hello. They were good. We laughed, they laughed about, they were telling stories about your days out there.
Starting point is 02:02:42 I had my adventures with Will and Scott. Oh, he's a funny, fuck. Scott, I knew fucking. No, they both were talking. I was, that Will was just such a. funny guy and a gentleman too very gentleman. Because he played a tough guy in the movie inside game. He played Jimmy Batista.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Now he does that other thing, George and Mandy's first wedding. You see that? Oh, he's fucking great. He plays the father-in-law. He's fucking good. But he's a Canuck. He's a Canadian.
Starting point is 02:03:09 What? Yeah, April 15th is all I got left. I don't know what's going. Nashville is the Comedy Festival is the 18th. So I'm excited about those. He's going to get down to the Wind Creek by us. It's not far. It used to be the Sands Casino.
Starting point is 02:03:23 I have the deal with parks. Okay. Okay. So you have an exclusive with them. Yeah, I'm back there again. So you're married to them. Yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 02:03:31 I like the marriage. They take care of you. That's all that. I'm out. 42 minutes from my house. I'm happy you came on. Yeah, I'm happy. Stay black and beautiful.
Starting point is 02:03:38 And for you, motherfuckers, always stay black. We had a great episode tonight. Hope you guys enjoyed it. And we'll be back next week. Remember my surgery is April 23rd. We're talking about doing a couple
Starting point is 02:03:49 fucking episodes. At the hospital? Wild. At the hospital? No, no, no. And that's all we got right now. So I'll see you motherfuckers next week. Stay black.
Starting point is 02:03:59 Uncle Joey, Lee, and Danny Bianculo love you.

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