The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - Mike Dowd TWO NIGHT Special Event: Night Two

Episode Date: February 24, 2016

Mike Dowd, former NYPD Officer and the subject of "The Seven Five" documentary came to LA from New York for a TWO NIGHT Special Event with Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt. This is the second night. The first night can be found here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/mike-dowd-two-night-special/id558364221?i=363470850&mt=2   This podcast is brought to you by:   Headspace: Go to headspace.com/joey to start your free trial today   Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout.

This show is brought to you by Headspace. Go to Headspace.com slash Joey right now and download the free Headspace app and begin their Take 10 program for 10 days of guided meditation. That's Headspace.com and download the free Headspace app. Show is also brought to you by Onit.com. Go to Onit.com and use Code Word Church to get 10% off all the great optimization products like Alpha Brain and New Mood. So I was telling my uncle Mike Dowd that we used to open up the show. with music. I would drop something on you in the middle or get your fucking heart pumping. And then I would leave you with something just to leave you in the mood of the show, something

that you thought about before the show started. But YouTube takes the fucking music down. So for you people who keep breaking my balls, what happened to the music, Joe? You know I love fucking music? You just don't stop playing music. I never met a more dumb society than what we're living. What do we do? We stop putting them on YouTube. Something happened. People started to hit me back like you haven't done the podcast in the three months. What are you that fucking retarded? Have you considered iTunes, motherfucker? Or do you think YouTube is the only fucking viewing platform here in the world?

It's very funny that people think it's over. Like, well, I hadn't seen your podcast on YouTube. No, because they pull it down. So you go to iTunes and they can get you... Yeah, and Lipson. And, you know, all you got to do is Google. All fucking day you sit there. And you Google porn actresses and VDs and travel points with your fucking retarded wife.

But you can't put, wait, what happened to the church of what's happening now? Oh, shit. It's on Lipson. It's on fucking iTunes. Oh, my God. What a fucking invention. How, I mean, how often did you run into that as a cop, Mike? Just people thinking you were stupid.

I don't even know what the right term would be, but you get lied to a thousand times a day. I tell you a quick story. I had a kid. He had a broken leg. He stole a bike from someone's house. It was late at night. I don't know. He stole a bike.

He's standing in front of me talking to me. Black kid in neighborhood. Woman sticks a head out the window. He says, I said, where do you live? He goes front, front apartment right up there, second floor. I go, really? Woman, about 90-year-old woman, gray hair, white woman. Is this your grandson, your nephew?

They try it any way they can. But the kid was slick. I loved him because he was slick. He knew how he had an answer. He was quick. He says, I live upstairs. He had the screwdriver in his pocket, the flashlight, the bike, everything. And he was selling the story to me.

I couldn't believe how quick he was, 16-year-old kid. Smart as a whip. I actually admired him for that. He had a good answer. You took his weed and you said, get the fuck. No, he stole a bike. We hate to lock him up, but I mean, for Christ sakes for a bike. But, you know.

I have a lot of fucking retarded friends, and they contact me every day, and they tell me to watch these documentaries. And between you and I, these documentaries last four minutes when I shut them down. Right. Sometimes it's about topics I really don't give a fuck about. Sometimes it's a New Yorkie topic that I kind of like, but I've already heard it. And I look at these guys, and I know they're bullshit me. Right.

I watched this 7-5, and I'm telling you why you're sitting here, the things I loved about you. You know, I loved at the end, you know, how you spoke about this fucking guy hurting you. It was painful, and I'm sensitive as fuck. I will shoot you, but, you know, you do something dumb, like, and I tell Lee all the time. I go, Lee, I take Lee off count, I go, Lee, how many times does that guy call to do the podcast and done this? The guy didn't invite us to his little party because there was going to be other people there.

And I tell Lee, I go, Lee, I'm not mad. I just want you to see how life works. Ten years ago, it used to hurt my feelings. Now I look at people and I go, what a fucking shame. I pray for you. You pray for them. You grow up. But you said something that was beautiful

that I know Lee has on his paper. Because I saw this as a young kid, and I can't believe this still happens in society. I wasn't even a cop, okay? And I saw this. You said after about two years, you see it for what the fuck it is. Right, right.

I know that question is on your thing, Lee. You see it for what the fuck it is, and now, yeah, you start to fade. You start to fade, you know. It happens, I think, in every job, but it's just with cops. You don't want it to be because they're supposed to be out of protecting you.

But especially with cops who get paid so little, it's understandable why. you fall like let's say you were making 60,000 a year would you have been done all that stuff I can't answer that question because the macaash is in your face you know I mean you know there's one side is the good guy the other side is the greedy guy if it's 51% the other way on that day you you may you may pop a little something for yourself at or something but you know let me just step back for a second Joey is that okay with you I want to I want to I want to say this I didn't I didn't start out to do this documentary they came to me I want

make that clear. I want nothing to do with it. The next thing that happens is the documentary comes out. I get called in. I lose my job. I lose my job because some fucking cop calls up and says, my wife's in danger, because Dowd's working there. Okay, fuck you. I end up losing my job. You're the one guy who got his money stolen from him all his fucking life. They gave you a badge. There's a thousand guys not like him. It's that one prick, right? So I lose my job. I lose my job and I go out and I create a cigar. I could create an idea. I don't even have a fucking... I don't even know where I'm going to get it from.

So I know that through this documentary, Diaz and I have had some decent little conversations. We wished each other well. I hope your life is better. My life is coming around. I just lost my job, though. I'm on a lot of shows. Can we promote something?

He has a company called La Palma and Dominica. Come up with a cigar based on the movie. I'm out trying to help promote it. And the fucking... The New York Post shows up at my... house telling me the cops are gonna fucking shut you down you're no good you're hooked up with a drug dealer the only guy in the fucking world that'll talk to me right now is guys that did time i can't get a job i get a job they fire me because some prick there's there's 40 000 new york city cops

okay if if 39 000 hated me i'd be in i'd be in the in the in the dumps i know this is two or three pricks that are doing this they had the fucking post at my house knocking on my door The woman that lives there was scared to death, and she's calling me up, sending me messages. And they don't want to hear my side. They don't want to hear that I'm giving speaking engagements in colleges and universities that I've involved in, you know, trying to bridge the gap between police and the community right now. That is my main goal because of all this shit and the shootings and the black lives and the blue lives and the white lives and the green lives and all lives. I'm trying to bridge the gap to put this whole thing together so people can respect one another. for human beings, not because you got a uniform,

not because you're not the right color, you're the wrong color. Listen, I was a cop. I never saw fucking color. I saw crime. Of course, if you were doing crime that I liked, I made some money. In that whole documentary, I never heard nothing about spec core. It was never about that. It never was.

I know where you grew up. You grew up around them. There's nothing you can do. You live with each other. You deal with my best friend. My first friend in the world was a black guy named Robin. I don't want to say his last name, I don't know, animus, anonymity. And my second best friend was a buriqua, okay?

So, fuck me. No, I know. When you grow up in that area, you can't be racist. You can't. You say the racist thing. You do. You know what? From time to time, you giggle.

It's ignorance. And in front of them. None of those people were really stupid. Right. And they ask you, why are you hanging out with that fucking reeking for? Yeah, yeah. And you sit there and go, are you this fucking dumb? You mingled.

What does it matter? You live right there. What does it matter? They walk in front of you all day. What about when I say? So you're talking to the girl the other day. Oh, well, she's hot. Well, what's the in between she's hot?

Yeah. And the fucking guy in the court. Well, he's a spick, but she's hot. He's a spick, but she's fucking hot. Listen, chick the spick was our best. In the movie, that was his nickname. He didn't give a, he didn't tell you his name was. I didn't, you know, listen, I'm not happy to use those terms because today you get yelled at.

But, you know, we called it the Puerto Rican mystery. I said it, without and clear. The guys that are Puerto Rican in the 80s, they knew what it was. Hey, we changed. We all grow up. But it was 23, 24 years old. We all grew up together. We lived, think about it.

You get a gun, you got a badge. Do you know that? I turned my gun and my fucking badge in in 1988 or 89. I can't remember. A couple of years I got a little lost there, okay? I was doing a little too much. Yeah, yo. Anyway, I turned my shit in.

And two years later, I walk, I never, I told the story once or twice, but I know your audience might appreciate this. I walk into the psychological services. I went to the farm. They called it the farm in the PD. I went to the farm up at Matt and Margueritz, and I came back, and I went three times. Okay? I done three times in nine months because I knew I had a lot of fucking heat around me.

I wanted to, you know, I was ducking and weaving, to be honest, clearly honest. I was ducking and jiving and weaving and skipping. I was just trying to find a way out of the situation I was in. Finally, after two years, the shrink, she was two foot one. I'm not kidding you. She had like some kind of disease. She was two foot one. I had to help her into the chair,

open the door for her. She couldn't use her hands. She was fucked up, you know, she had some kind of a disease. I don't know what it was. I'm not making fun of her. Anyway, so, they tell me you're getting your guns back.

I'm like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. I'm under every investigation, by every letter in the country, FBI, D-E-A-C-I-A-C-I-Y-P-D, you don't put the letter out there. I go back, I get to this building, psychological services,

there's a fucking folder on the desk. On the desk is a folder, and it's turned around this way, so I can't see it. But it's open. The guy's 90. He's got a hair, more hair growing out of his ears than he does on his head. He turns around, he walks to this locker, and as he's walking to the locker, I'm looking at it.

It's my folder. I see clear as day. 15 allegations of corruption. Five in five consecutive weeks, selling cocaine from a red corvette, which, by the way, never fucking happened, but someone was making these allegations. And I think the prick, when I parked in his spot,

because remember I told you, I wanted to end this fucking deal, I want, I'm done. I just want to be a drug dealer. Fuck it. Because I didn't like, I didn't, I knew I was going to. I was just trying to fucking see what happened. They didn't do nothing. So anyway, so here they take,

I'm looking at this thing. I got fucking all these allegations on it. And he comes back and he has my fucking gun and bad. Just go, live a life. You can't make, Joey. I'm looking at this. they got 19, 15, 20 separate allegations of fucking corruption and they handed me my gun and my edgeback.

So I'm just trying to say the truth here, you know? And, you know, I went to the end up in a 94 precinct and then the fateful day comes and the movie goes on. But listen, I respect the police. I wish that I was a retired policeman in Florida getting a fucking pension right now, okay? I fucked up. a lot of us fucked up

a thousand cops were arrested from 1980 something 8485 to 1997 charged with narcotics related charges just in New York or or police everywhere I don't know about the rest of the fucking world

the rest of the world doesn't New York City New York fucking city yeah so I mean so hey I take responsibility the dirtiest

the greatest dirtiest whatever but you know now I'm trying to make a fucking living, Joey. And you got three cops with one cop who got his lunch money stolen is fucking trying to put me out of business with these cigars and the 7-5 cigar program. I didn't want to

do this. They fucking made me, they fired me from my job. You know, so now I try to make a living. The guy happens to be a fucking ex-drug. X-drug. I'm an ex-drug dealer, too. I'm not going to say. I got to be honest. I fucking shook people down and I sold drugs. Who do you want me to hang around with the fucking police

department? I love you all, but you won't hang with me. We're done. I love you. smoke a cigar, think about it. Did you sell the drugs? I always, because halfway through the movie, you talked about how you hired that one guy, but how were you at the beginning getting rid of the drugs?

I broke off fucking half ounces or whatever. Eight balls, whatever they wanted. I had, like, I had three clients, four clients. That's it. Done. Guys that you knew. Yeah. Guys that you knew.

Guys I knew and guys I grew up with and guys I could watch. If I don't see you for two days, I want to know where to fuck you are. Don't call me if I haven't seen you in two, three days. I need to see you. every fucking day if I can. I want to make sure you didn't get a two or three day fucking stint. Now you're out, you know, working.

I wish someone else would have done that. Yeah, but if you were like that. Jesus Christ. I turned into a fucking perp. That's it. I, you know, I can't be honest. You know, I was making so much money. You know, I knew the police department hated me.

I knew that they asked me to transfer. They asked me to quit. You know, I had no balls to quit. I said balls to rock. I don't make money. were you making were you actually doing police work during that time or no

I was the best fucking cop on that beat and I and prove I prove I wasn't they recommend me for promotions and all kinds of shit because I did my job well if you were if you were in the game just like in the mob

if you were in the mom and you got whacked it was part of the fucking game now let me ask you this did you ever take a detective test or anything you didn't want to get off the street what do they do I don't you had to get a lot I wish I was a detective if I was a detective

if I was a detective I would be a billionaire. Not a billionaire, not a billionaire. How do you become a detective in NYPD? Well, in all fairness, you know, besides having a hook, you know, you need to be an active, aggressive cop and make good collars and show the aptitude to progress your way up and to be a good investigator. There's no mistake when you're a detective, normally. Normally if you're a detective, MIPD, you're very well respected and you're pretty, you're seasoned. Look, a two-year veteran of a New York City Police Department cop is seasoned like a 15-year veteran and most police departments in the world.

That's a fact. So that's how much experience you have in knowledge and wisdom. After two or three years, is that good? Two years. You see things people never could see in their life. It's all about their hands and watching people and watching their hands, watching their body, watching the way they tip, watching the way their coat hangs. I could go, I could pick guns out like in my sleep. ridiculous

I mean Kenny got them all he gave him to him and he gave him back and they put him on my fucking sentencing memorandum I took I told you did I tell you the guy Dia what's his name Diaz

from the fat boys the Diaz kid from the fat boys I took the 32 I took the 32 from him out of his fucking little man purse then I gave this is a long story

I want to get into it here because you want to watch movie but the Diaz, the fat boy from Diaz, what the fuck's his name? You guys don't know, you know music, the fat boys? No, I was gone by then, I was into other things. The fat boys, the first one of the first rap group, the first rapids.

I know, I just don't remember the fucking names right now, you know, I was doing something. The fat boy, Diaz looks like you, a name like you, he's like your cousin, he's not your cousin? I didn't give a fuck at all in those days. I know you didn't. Anyway, I took a 32, fucking two-shot 32, two-shot derringer added that little girl big, that, you know, Fanny Fanny Pack and shit.

There was a stack of hundreds in there So I take the gun I'm with some kid who wants the collar I can't take the collar I said you told me you wanted a gun collar He goes I know his brother He brothers a cop in the 9-0

So this fucking rookies telling me I'm gonna I'm the jam up guy I'm trying to do everything by the book You want a gun collar I got you one here's the gun oh my God He goes I know this guy His brother's a cop in the 90 I said he's a fucking rap guy from the neighborhood

I used to take their singles They have bags pillow pillow cases filled with singles in their fucking house. They'd have block parties in their house. You know, they put the speakers on bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, they go all night long. And I guess the people would stuff their money, their bags with singles. And she used to take the singles. There's too much

fucking work taking those singles. That was crazy. But this guy here, he had a 32 shot, two shot, 32, two shot derringer in the bag. And so I take the gun, the kids is, I can't lock him up, but he knows my brother. This fucking boat equal. This first week on the job, he's telling me, I can't lock the guy up. He's my brother. I know his brother.

I go, okay. Now what the fuck? I got a rookie here. He says he can't make the collar. I don't make dollars, right? And the guy's got a fat knot in his fucking little fanny pouch. So he goes to me, officer, take what you want. So I look at him.

It's the wrong fucking time. I got a rookie next to me here. Who won't take the gun? But I'm scared if I take a little cash. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know this guy. I don't just do. You know, you got to think this thing out.

So I go, all right, listen, dude. I take a walk. He goes, can I have? have my gun back. I said, you gotta be fucking kidding. Get the fuck out of here. So I take the 232 2 shot derringer. I give it to Baron Perez, the fucking, the guy in the

In the Auto Sound City, right. And he ends up shooting, I don't know, whatever. He didn't shoot anybody with it, but it went off by accident. This fucking building. Someone shot himself in the leg I heard. I don't even know. By accident, they were like, because it was a two shot thereins. You pull the, you pull the, the hammer

back and boom. It was crazy. Anyway, so this is life in the fucking ghetto. You know, it's crazy. I want to get back to that line that you said, because, like I said, when I watched it for the first time, I wasn't as much as shock as Lee was. Lee is a young man.

He believes, you know, like many other young men. Hey, listen, most cops are good people. They believe, and... Yeah, I was good people, too, Joey. I saw behind the curtain as a young man. You know, in different aspects. sword you work i don't know why and how i can't describe what i saw but one day i knew the war on drugs was bullshit oh i knew that what a fuck police work in the 70s was real police work when cops would pull

up and go what's what happened here right and you know decision making decision making and quick stuff listen we got other calls to make right next time i see you swear it up and block you are you you're going to the hospital if i see you again and everybody knew everybody knew They knew the street justice. They knew the cops on detail. There was a relationship. You know, I once saw something on television that I don't see anymore. I don't see only if there's a terrorist threat do you see people in uniform.

When I was a kid, there was always a cop on a beat. Right. Okay. Oh, and they deter more crime. That dude in the neighborhood, you know around, walking around, you knowing that guy walking around will stop you from doing a thousand. thousand fucking things, especially because they left him in these neighborhoods. So he got to grow up with the kids. And he became something for the kids.

And he saw the kids. And he would catch him before they went down. I'm telling you. Early. This was a different fucking America that we have forgotten here. But for me, you know, when I was a kid, I got in, there was a fight one day. I got involved. The cop took me to his house, Italian.

four boys. I never left after that. I went back to my house. I would go over there. One day I went to go over there and they had the house surrounded. He had Patty Hurst machine gun. Then another time

some dude on my block and Anthony got into a beef, he went over there, handcuffed the dude, beat the fuck out of him, took the handcuffs off him. The guy dropped. The whole neighborhood

went inside the house. The guy on the floor started yelling, police brutality, nobody did nothing. You know, he run amuck for years. You know, one time a teacher hit his son and me. He came in and fucked this teacher up at the school. He loved this guy.

I loved this fucking guy. I put him in my documentary and everything. God bless him. I love him with all my heart. You know, one day, I remember he used to always tell me he called Corcorini. If you ever want to shoot somebody, invite him all for dinner. He just told me that shit for years. A little advice.

I had two guys on the block. I had two guys on the block that told me something, and you could have been these two guys. The cop, you always tell me me Kokearini, if you want to kill somebody, invite him off, and then the other guy, he's just telling me Coke's. I'll do anything for you. Tell me the truth.

Yeah. And I'll do anything for you. If you lie to me, then we're going to have a fucking promise. But if you tell me the truth, all the way to the end, I'll fucking take the guns with you. And that made my dick hard. He was my friend's dad,

and he's the one I lived with him. My mom died. Carmine ended up shooting somebody in the back three times in self-defense, lost his police job, but kept his pension because he had a relationship with the New York Times. He just kept writing letters to the New York Times. Today, Carmine, which we met him, we went to his house and taped him. Today, Carmine is still a security guard, probably making $100 grand. He's the highest paid security guard in the state of New Jersey because he writes letters.

He's a letter writer. Yeah, he's one of those letter-writer. was more powerful. The pen is more powerful than the sword, baby. You know, and he had a guy at the paper all those years. What that fucking did to me? The paper today. They run a fucking article on me.

Whenever allegations came up against him, he had a guy at the paper that printed his shit. Oh, my God. I need a guy on that side. Joey, come on. Why did I? Should have common working for my agency. Please, but it's, uh... I would love to see those editorials.

That's crazy. Like, to have somebody be able to like, that's Twitter before Twitter was around. That's insane. Right. Yeah, that is Twitter. He was a letter writer, and he tormented letters. Yeah, because heavy letters got to be answered in red. Fucking crazy, crazy. And people always said that the bottom of the common was a fucking letter writer, you know, which I don't know what that means. I don't know who he writes letters to. You know, but it's, but the topic I really wanted to get behind, again, for somebody like Lee, you're laying in bed one night.

Do you just think that this is fucking bullshit? This is bullshit. Every time I shoot a kid. Or I arrest a motherfucker. I've never fucking fired my gun. Anyway, I'm just saying, anytime I arrest a kid, another one comes out of the river. I work 20 hours with chicky to clean up that block

for the lady's house. Chicky, God bless chicken. And next thing you know, there's six New Puerto Ricans out there selling crack. Yeah, well, yeah. And at what point do you go, fuck it? We can't beat them. Well, we might as well join them. The point comes one.

when your fucking bosses start breaking your balls for making arrests. You're like, now you're the problem. It's not the fucking, the, the, the, the, the problem, it's you. You aren't out of problem because you're costing the city thousands and thousands of dollars in incarceration fees, lawyers fees, overtime, food, you know, transportation. You know, there's 120, 150,000 arrests a year in Brooklyn, you know, all for the same shit. crack marijuana you know the fucking drug war is a complete disaster and it

complete fuck themselves you know you can shove a pipe up your ass but you can't fucking smoke a joint or do a fucking blast even the reef I don't mind you I don't listen I'm not pro this guy a ticket I'm not pro drugs I give this guy a ticket do what the fuck you want it's your body give it you know for the way this guy acted the other night with the thing the other day but they went at this not they're gonna put him in prison Hilarious. Those are the guys that, and that's how you were, the first of four weeks on the job. That was him. What did you just passed to him?

Yeah. What did you just passed on? I saw a bag or something, you know, I'd be like, oh, we got to do this. I got to do something about this. And then one day, you see that kid that you arrested on your second day, and now he's the bank president. And you're like, you weren't that much of a bad kid for smoking pot. Yeah, really. Jesus, what was I thinking?

It's these motherfuckers that they crack. You start laying, you know, you start making your own judgment. Right. No, marijuana was not pursued at that point. No. It was a crack hit. No one even hurt a marijuana. And what happens on the other side of it where, like, let's say you arrested this guy ten times and he keeps getting out.

He keeps getting out on technicalities. Chris Moore. He's the fucking most famous motherfucker for that. He'd be out before you got back to the precinct with him. His lawyer would be in the station house waiting for you. What was his? I tried to shake him now. He was a drug dealer?

He was a professional drug deal. Okay, I didn't know him. He was very good at it. What was his name? Chris Moore? Chris Moore. White kid? No, that guy.

From Bermude... Barbados. Badoes. Loved him. But he was a loud bitch. He would complain a lot and he would get away with it. He had the biggest arrest record in the precinct that did zero time. It was famous.

It was famous. The kid was famous. Do you have like a millionaire lawyer or something? He beat you to the station house. His lawyer just sat around waiting from him to get arrested, I guess. I don't know. And the funny thing was he's the only guy I saw in federal prison. And he was four-pointed in his cell.

And he says to me, Mike, because everybody knows who I am. I passed a few steps with him, Mike, can you call my girlfriend for me? Because they have the phone on wheels. They wheel the phone from one. I was in the hole. So the phone from one hole, the phone from one hole in the cell to the next. And it was my turn on the tear. and Chris Moore's forepointed, he couldn't move, he couldn't do anything.

And so I made the call for him, and I had to hold the phone to his fucking ear for him. Here's a guy, he wouldn't pay me, I gave him a summons. He's like the only summons, C-sumons I ever wrote, because he started yelling at me in front of everybody. He's trying to take my money. He'll try to take $200 and let him go. He's trying to take my money. So for fuck that. I took him to the precinct, I gave my summons.

Probably cost him $200. I don't know what it cost him. So he's the only guy I ran into him in prison, and I ended up having to do him in favor. And, of course, I did him a favor. We're all in the same joint now. You know, I was at MCC, New York, on the Nine South, okay? If you're out there, Nine South, Chris, and Desmond, you were the fucking CEO, and you know who you are. Nine South.

Yeah, that's the whole. That's the whole, that's the hole, baby. But the mice in your fucking, in your fucking cell, the roaches were so thick that you'd put the earplugs in, and you'd try to keep the roaches out of your ears while you were sleeping. The mice were in your fucking locker, eating your soups, and your cooking. cookies and shit. You still go fishing for mice. We put the, we put the box on the floor, it's a big soup box, and we put a, make a string from the sheets. And you put a cookie in the bottom of the box, and you hear the mouse in there, because it's stuck. He's trying to get the

fucking thing out. Bingle, you stand the, like your fish. And then the mouse couldn't jump high enough to get out of the box. You put them in the toilet. The other night, you got four or five mice in the toilet fucking looking at you. Can we get out, please? Goodbye. Disgusting. Yeah, that was it. And then the roaches, you've got to keep them off your bed, keep them out of your ears. You imagine that way? Two years. Two years.

They were water bugs. They were fucking real roaches. They were fucking ghetto roaches. Going from a condo? No, they weren't the big ones. They were the little ones because you couldn't see. You know, they were being made me. They were over.

You turn the light out. They come out and at night and then you turn a lot on their run. Oh, Jesus. And they're all over here. Yeah. I probably ate about 100 pounds of roach. I see a roach right here. That's different.

That's a different roach. What is it like going from condos in Merrill Beach? What was it? Corvette or Ferrari? I forget what the Corvette. Two fucking catching mice and keeping the roaches on your ears. That's quite the fall. It pushed life into perspective.

Yeah, well, you know, you're changed forever. You forever change. I'm a humorous guy. I laugh at life's foils. But it's very serious. This is a whole serious topic. I'm serious, but I try to put light of humor into life because you might as well be fucking dead.

If you can't fucking laugh, you might as well be dead. Put a segment on, Lee. Okay Let's put a segment out of one of Uncle Mike's Not this shit The fucking movie I know Yeah, that's my notes

Um Well yeah I mean we could play the What we just talked about The not stemming the flow of crime Um How about we do Okay

Let's do this Golly Don't make me strangle you with you Yeah Chiky's my boy Here he is I love Chicky And I'm a cop

Things began to change When I started to find money and drugs at different locations. I was in control now. That gave me the real feeling of being in control. I've been throwing this shit out for years. Now it's... Now, all of a sudden, it's a moneymaker.

I'm like, okay. A kid had done a stick up on, Fulton. He ran home, hid in his house. We knocked the door down, went inside. I knew we were in a co-house, triple-beam scales everywhere. So I hacked saw this briefcase open. I stuck my hand,

and I ripped out this bag of plume of fucking white powder. It was fly and I said, Pater! Bags. I'm putting bags in my coat. At the time, it was $30,000 a kilo for Coke. So we know if we had a half or a one, we're getting $20,000 at least.

And I took the money and bought a condo, Myrtle Beach. I love the golf and I know Myrtle Beach was a golfer's haven and it's on a beach. Pretty simple. So Joey's told stories about like finding like a Chinese restaurant or just finding people, just finding drugs, finding all this stuff,

and you're finding, like, how does it just find you? How do you find, how do, like, I've never once stumbled across all this code. That's crazy. Well, it wasn't out in front of the guy's doorbell. I was in his fucking basement, and it was actually behind the curtain.

You know, and sometimes, don't take this door, in a Spanish house, they'll hang beads, or they'll put a curtain up, because that's now a new room, right? So behind the curtain was a fucking another room, and that room was the cocaine rule. And there was amazing amounts of... I couldn't get it all.

I was fucking... There was police everywhere. I couldn't get the coke out. It was ridiculous. There was so much coke in the house. But I knew what I could. You know, I stuffed my pockets. My partner stuffed his pockets, and we took off.

You know, I look at you, and I feel you, because I just didn't have a uniform on. Yeah, I just lived there. Comedy Central tonight premieres. This is not happening with Ari. And I tell a story about this guy. house that I went to. I knew he sold coke. For years, when I was a kid, I knew he sold coke. He was gay. Mottina, Marico. No big deal. I go to his house from there. I'm looking

at my Santeria stuff. And for some reason, something just catches my eye. It's a baggie. But I didn't know what a baggy looks like. I know what a baggie looks like. I look over and there's maybe three quarters of an ounce. Maybe, you know, 20 grams. two grams of powder. You're weighing the fucking thing to your eyes? I could just tell my eyes. That's how good I was.

That's how good I was. I can tell two but to be a couple months. I break it up a little bit. I take three grams, whatever. Did you check and make sure it dissolves nice? It was tremendous. This is 19.

It was 1882. It was bazook. This is beautiful. I could leave that door. We could go back and I rob him. And this started something that you know, it's like I tell Lee Lee.

I never met a hair one. dealing in Hollywood for 18 years. You know how many Coke dealers I met? When I was doing Coke, you meet Coke dealers. Absolutely. You attract people. So Mike's going to people's houses for something completely from fucking weird.

He gets there and Lee's got a bindle on the table with a triple-beat scale. I see. I know. He looks. He goes here. He goes there. He calls the ambulance. I'm going to tell exactly what happened. I go in a house and I look at the fucking condition inside the house.

This is it. Yeah. This house is too nice for this neighborhood. there's fucking racks of shoes boxes of shoes shoes shoes are expensive women love shoes

there's got to be money in this fucking house there's a reason that here in the ghetto where you're supposed to be broke that chicky says the richest fucking place in the world racks of shoes now you got to start looking for what you want you don't want I don't want the high heel pumps okay

I'll tell you right now but there's got to be something in there for me and I find it but not always And if you didn't find it, many times you just missed it, which is pissed you off. You know what? If I think back without lying to you guys, I was eight for ten. If I thought there was ten spots that had Coke and cash in eight out of ten, and something or both. Right.

Something or both, at least I had. You knew the street. You knew it. You know what's going on in there. And I'm not leaving until I find fucking something. Whether it takes three minutes or eight minutes. I know there's something in there. You know how many times?

I left, walked around the neighborhood and went back into a place because I thought about something. Right, yeah, you missed a spot. Finally, my mind picked up the fucking ceiling. I'm telling you, Lisa. I know when there's something in your fucking house. Yeah, yeah. You can tell. You know, you know. You can tell. When you're in the business, you know.

I'm not leaving until I get something in this fucking house. It's just the way it was. I'm going to tell you a story. This is how it was, and this is one of the guys is still around today on the job. Good guy. I um these are stories that doesn't make the fucking cut I'm at the precinct nine four I got a half a kilo where's the nine four it's in green point okay it's still

be gentrified over there it's fucking fabulous I I got a fucking half a kilo in a bag I gotta bring it home and do my distributions and whatnot anyway so the sergeant I hook it to sergeant up with my boy just who does breaks for the cops whatever and I give him a nice spot and I take him to a place I save him $150 on a break job back then it was like three hundred and something dollars for a Toyota sell a break job I got him if I like a buck fifty I hooked the guy up I got him the job so at the end of the shift we're waiting around and he goes Mike can you sergeant shift lens 20 minutes later than the cops so I said I don't wait 20 minutes for you he saw he

signs out I'm standing around bullshit I put my bag down you know most cops carry a duffel bag to work with them I had you know my shit in the bag and I had a kilo in there so I left bag in front of the and cops will know what I'm talking about and civilians may as well they call it the 124 room where they do all the reports you're walking up the street you say that my house would burglarized my car's missing my my daddy's you know beating me up they do all the typing all civilians do the typing I put this little bag in front of like the girl sitting over there and on a desk right here in front of us so about two feet away from her I go home for a three-day weekend I'm

looking for my fucking bag I can't find that I'm starting to sweat remember how he was sweating before I'm sweating I'm losing my mind where's this bag I check my car underneath over the top trunk I never put anything in the trunk can't find it I call the precinct I tell this young cop I said to me a favor he goes what my can go my locker is here

this is my combination open my locker and do not look in that bag you hear me if there's a black bag with orange stripes on it do not look in that bag the guy knows who I'm talking about what I'm down there right now He goes, I got you, Mike.

I said, do not look. Okay. Five minutes later, he comes back on the phone. The bag's not there. I said, okay, great. I'm shitting my pants off. I don't know where to fuck this bag. Is someone broken my car and stole it?

I'm saying, all right. I go to work two days later. There's the bag. The bag is at the fucking desk in front of the girls. Type in the fucking report. It's still there. There's a half a kilo in there. And there's my PBA fucking.

The letter they send home to you once a month for like some like report, whatever it is, right? It's got my name, my address, everything stamped on it. I'm fucked. I'm going to jail today. I'm getting ready. I'm going to jail. I'm circling the fucking thing like a, like a shark circle somebody before he takes him down. I'm looking.

I'm looking. I got to figure out if I'm in trouble right now. I'm looking for strange cars. I don't know what to do. So I go over to the desk officer. Hey, Lou, how you doing? Oh, good. what's up he looked at me a little strange but not too strange so I go I need a report

from back there is that all right he goes yeah come on up so he invites me behind the desk I'm not in uniform yet I'm just coming in for the for the four the 12 ship he invites me behind the desk I'm looking around behind the desk is there fucking monsters coming out is nothing so rather than go into the 124 room from the front way I went from the lieutenant's desk the back way right into the 124 room picked up the bag and walked straight out the fucking priest door, I get outside, I run down the street, jump in my car, and drive over

to fucking McCarran Park or someplace in Greenpoint there. I'm sweating. I'm looking around. No one following me. I'm not under arrest. This is unbelievable. I got a half a kilo in the fucking bag, in the station house. Over the weekend, it sat there for three days. Three fucking days. We're a room full of cops. You've got to wonder, who's

doing police working? Oh, my God. Well, I mean, I'm so happy they weren't. And Greenpoint now, they have a fucking studio. Oh, there are lots of A movie studio now. A film TV studio. They shoot blue bloods and God knows how many fucking things up there. Wasn't it, Gloria? Not Gloria. What's the one of American Idol? I can't remember her name. Oh, Jennifer Lopez. No, the Spanish one. Not the first one. Oh, Paul Abdul? Paul Abdul. She's not Spanish, right? Anyway, Paul Abdul did her video where she puts her head in the bucket of water and the water flies up.

In 1991, she did her video in Greenpoint at some wise guys, they had the studio down there. And she asked, she gives my partner, Tom, I won't say his last name, her phone number. I said, about three days later, she ever call this girl? You know, at that she wasn't too, you know, she was a fucking, you know, she was a star, but not, not the star she eventually became. He goes, no, I didn't. I said, you got to be fucking kidding me. He says, Mike, I got 35 numbers.

She's, my God, don't put her on the list. I said, she's a fucking singer. Christ sakes, you could have changed the world, dude. You could leave. Batman and Robin, I got six, whatever. You're a crazy fucking life, Mike. You're lucky man. And you live to be 90.

You're one of those guys that'll live to be 90. What's the second scene you like, Lee? Well, there's this one. Let's see here. We already did this last night. No. No, no, there's a whole bunch of them. We didn't watch seven minutes last night.

All right, go ahead. Well, I swat out last night. Academy. Yeah. Did we? The Academy. Well, you were fucking shot. So, yeah.

So what the line was then, was, if you want to be a successful cop, don't listen to Internal Affairs. Right. So that's crazy. And when your basic training, they come in and they just say, if you want to be a sick. So what did they mean successful? Well, you want to have a career as a police officer where you're engaged in the police world, you know. You don't want to be working with internal affairs. They end up by themselves, usually.

The culture is to be involved with the community, of the police, and, you know, the eternal affairs don't get invited to too many parties. It's the truth. I think the internal affairs, their wives don't like them. It's true. I'm not kidding. When their husbands work for internal affairs, they don't want to talk to them. It's the truth, I swear to God.

What a tough fucking job being a cop. A cop for the cops. No, no, no, just what happens to you when you become a cop lead. Never mind becoming a cop for the fucking cops. They got cops for the cops and cops for the cops. More cops for more cops and more. They got everything. That's worse for fucking cops and six cops.

I'd never even follow a fucking somebody. It's what an interesting journey. Let me tell you something. And make this, it's the best fucking job in the world. The pay so. But it's so fucking cool to be a cop And if you're a real if you're a real person though You can't be a scumbag you have to be a real person

That's what I'm saying I grew up with cops though you know you grew up with You know you're up with cops. I'm not saying they're not a lot of most most listen Joe be out let's keep it real Most of them are pretty good guys, you know sometimes they overreact everybody does did you ever react in your life? Oh every fucking day in my life me too There's that prick Joe Yeah I'm trying to find it It's when they were talking about how he, Joe Chamboli, got tipped off about the 7-7. 13 New York City police officers have been suspended.

Police are accused of accepting money from drug pushers and committing burglaries. It's the worst police scandal in the city in years. Fucking cops were raiding homes and raiding drug locations. I think that firemen in the 7-7 precinct. And he calls me up and he says, What's going on in the 7-7? Cops are coming into the firehouse, and they're borrowing ladders and hatchets. The cops were using the ladders to go to these locations where they knew the drugs were,

and they were using the axes to break down the doors. These guys had no finesse whatsoever. These guys absolutely berserk. So, like, what are you thinking? You see this, and they got, they didn't get caught because the police caught them. that didn't get caught for making any... The mistake they made was that they were doing it at the...

where the brother of the... whatever it's called, internal affairs, was a firefighter. It's just crazy how... Like you said, how you can have all these people doing all these things, but it's just... It's your brother. It's luck. It's not police work.

It's not... I mean, it's crazy that the biggest police scandal in New York was... They were being stupid and just going and asking for ladders It was wide open out there. This is nothing fucking new. This was wide open. These guys weren't using ingenuity.

I mean, for Christ's sakes, I'm surprised it with, I mean, that's almost foolish that they did it because the fact is it was, what do you need a ladder for? I mean, was that, was that one bill? It was everywhere. I mean, got from, you know, one guy ends up fucking killing himself in a hotel room with the asshole McAleary sitting right next to his side, right in the brunk. You know, this was everywhere. I mean. Okay. in the 7-7.

You're watching this go down. Oh, yeah. You're sitting there in the 7-5 going, you know what? We're next. This ain't going to happen. We're next. Or, we're next. I'm just going to get ready. I'm just going to steal with two hands until they come knocking on the fucking door. You know what I'm saying?

Right. Well, what happened was at that point, everybody got their ears tightened up, okay? We all fucking stopped. And then they sent us to Coney Island. But the fact was, the word was out that we were robbing people. I mean, I say, we, I don't know how many, if I say 10 or 50, I don't know the difference, but there was at least

10, I told you. Now, you're in a crew at three cops. Well, a crew about 12 cops. And three times four of you guys are hitting different drug dealers. Absolutely. Are you all 12, are you sharing the V? No, no, no, no. You know what they're doing? You know what Lee's doing? Right, right, right. It's you and your partner, you're taking home, whatever you want that. We had a number, like 200 a day, was our number. We'd like to. get. 200 cash. Each. Right. So me and my part... That's like nothing. That's nothing. That's the first time.

Listen, we were new. We were young. We were doing this. Let's get 200. We can get a score for $15. That's different. A score is different than a payday. Like, you're in the corner, you're getting 200 from you. You're the mark today. Because there's going to be 400 different guys we can pass, but we have to do a job, so we can't roll everybody. So the one guy we're rolling, and we're getting 200 for each of us.

Whether it's this guy, had the only 200, And that guy had that was four were good So $200 number was the day So at the end of the week you put a grin in your pocket No matter what, that was the goal So you weren't killing people You were letting them make a living And you were making a little extra

And you didn't have to lock them up anymore And get fucking in trouble from the police department And who the fuck are you kidding Listen, you come to me You kick in the door right now with a warrant And me and me only got four ounces of blowing And you come in here right now And go, hey man

Turn around blah blah blah blah this is what we're doing we're taking the powder but we're leaving the cash I think this really might cause a heart attack the cigar I think this might get us in trouble for sure what you mean

oh with the office with the office so be careful with that thing I want to put it out? Yeah I will why don't you fucking say something you got all the smoke floating around here we come in here we open up the door oh okay and throw that joint up the mall tell this fucking got enough to leave joints out of here

shit. Okay. I said, I'll just tell me something before I lit this fucking beautiful. This beautiful, you know, 7 and 5 cigar, I just lit, look great. It's delicious. It's delicious. I'm going to smoke a cigar. Are you too? I'm going to get some cocktails

or something. It's really weird that yeah, there's four sets of you. And you're out there and whatever. And I, listen, somebody comes in here right now and says, I'm taking the coat. You guys could keep the cash. This never happened. I would never

hold the grudge against you. You just saved me 10 fucking years. Yeah, you know, absolutely. And everything I fucking owned. Take the four. As a matter of fact, I'm back to mom. I'm going to give you two more. So that's what happened.

You understand me? So you understand. On my perspective, I know what's cracker lacking. I know that this motherfucker can take my dad. He just saved your life. And take me in. And tomorrow morning,

when my wife goes to pay for her fucking love this guy. When my wife goes to get her latte, there's no money in that. There's no latte. There's no latte. count it's over and there's no paper you love that cop no fucking idea you have you have you love this guy comes in here once a week and he goes Joey how you doing right you know what Lee bust him out 500 yeah take make sure he's happy what's he want to

give him five right give him five watch this watch I wish I had Joey I'm watch this motherfucker I wish you were on my no because I would have been good I don't need 10 guys for that's what I know I need three guys that's it that's it because for 500 you'll get you dancing I'm living dancing who else is selling coke on this corner 10 guys and they're all paying me 200. Well, tomorrow we're going to all shake them down and you're going to give them the shit back. You're a hero.

I mean, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You have no idea the scams that are out there with some cops. You just take my coke and leave it at that and leave my cash. Come by every week. So, but what happens if they start abusing it, though? Like, they find it and then they're there every day.

Well, you can't be abusive. Otherwise, it's not going to work. It's not going to work. That's why you got a mark. You got to milk them. What do I always say? Why run down there and fuck one of them and we can walk down there and fuck them all? Okay?

So you're going to milk them slowly like a credit card. Right. I don't mind. This is it. Now, guess what else? For the five, guess what else is going to happen? He's going to come in here one day because fucking Mike Dow is a genius. He's a street genius. He's going to come in here one day and do what he's done that documentary.

He's going to come in one day and go, how are you guys doing? You got to lower the music. And all of a sudden, you're going to flush the blow. going to walk to the corner, there's going to be DEA, helicopter's dog, and there's nothing here. Guess what you're going to do tomorrow morning? When you see me? You're going to call him and say, take your dick out. I'm going to suck every sperm.

I'm not even gay. I'm going to suck your dick because, again, you saved me 30 years. Right. 30 years. Did she see the eyes in the fucking movies? Yeah. And what is he won? Half a million.

It saved half a million. And what does he want? He won 500 a week, really? But then there's people who are stupid. Yeah. Why am I giving him 500 a week? You stupid and miserable motherfucker. You're eating with your kids every night.

You're getting your dick suck. And you're on the scam. You're getting your tickets taken care of. Because any ticket I get, Mike, come here. What's this fucking guy? I'll take care. I'll take care. I had a wise guy complaining to me.

I had a guy. You have no fucking idea, Lee, what these guys do. I had to take care of this guy. You have no idea as a guy that's on the street. These are $2,500 tickets. These are $2,500 tickets I had to take care of. What did you know what I'm saying? LD-6s.

They were called L-D-Cys. When I was in Boulder, I became friends with a dude, and he caught on to me with the credit cards. This is after they were looking for them. And he told him, because they're watching at the mall. Don't go to that mall. Go to the one in Westminster, whatever, in Longmont. And he goes, and if you go, he said, get me one of those speakers. And guess what?

I got him the speaker. The next time I saw him was maybe two months later. I had left and came back, and I bumped into him. And you still have something for you? Did you still have it? I had the speaker of my girlfriend's car at the time. When I saw him, I just put the speaker on the street. I go, that might be yours.

And I got my calling left and came back on the only way in the speaker was gone. There you go. Was he a dirty cop? I don't fucking know. He took care of me. Like I said, there's logic. And this people's going to listen to this podcast. And they're not going to agree with what we're talking about here.

Because they don't understand. It's not their world. Well, here's the thing, though. So you guys grew up where this is normal. I didn't. I grew up where the only. cop interaction I had was Officer Rocky a bigger middle-aged

guy who was our dare officer so I didn't have the beat I didn't have so I don't I didn't have any experience with them at all so to me I'm scared like my first reaction is scared even well like I'm getting better at it but I used

to freak out like when they were driving behind me on the street even if I did nothing wrong well why would you even be scared I mean your first reaction is if you knew Rocky the big did the dare cop You should have had an affinity for police. So that would be the reason you would know Mr. Rocky Day. Well, he was really nice. But then, but when they're behind you and they're going to pull you over, that's when you get scared.

This is my wallet. Right. This is my wallet. Okay. This is my wallet. Hey, hey, you fat's pig. Fuck you, motherfucker. Whatever.

Lee, get out of the car. Give that guy 300. He'll give you an eight boy. You get back in the car. We hit the corner. We make a right at the stop sign. I stop sign like a gentleman. I look both ways.

I make the right. Like a gentleman. Boom. Right there, cop pulls me over. It's Mike Dodd. Pulls me over. He knows I just copped over there. Mike Dodd takes a look at me.

I'm not high. My eyeballs are clean. I got no tattoos. I got a married ring. He knows the deal. This guy's not dealing. This guy came home from Jersey. With the Jewish kid, he came to cop.

What do I got now? I open up my thing like this. You know, license and registration. So when I get my license, I give him this fucking stupid PBA card. And I give him the fucking PBA card he takes it looks at this PBA card family member oh yeah we don't fuck around him right away he knows who's this

my stepdad he on the job bupapa da ba ba ba ba ba what the fuck you're doing up here you know what would you like to me let me what's your stepdad's number will you want me to call him right now in three in the morning and tell him you're on a fucking 48th and be a what are you doing not really would you okay didn't do what you're gonna do how much cash is that sticking out of your fucking wallet I don't give a fuck right there with three hundred All right, drop it in the fucking door, like empty your wallet. Just drop.

Just drop it. You know, and I don't give a fuck because he just saved me, oh my God, my license. Five years, maybe. Six years getting towed. You have no fucking idea. Five years of fucking trouble. And what? Bus rides.

Bus rides you would have to do. Am I going to fuck kids in the ass? Am I going to go watch porn or no? I'm going to go get some fucking chick, put a Coke rock in the pussy. He sees it for what it is. What I told you. Right. The ability to read.

people you said after two years on the beat in New York you learn more you know look at it from a cop's perspective every time they talk to nobody nobody ever did anything right I went to prison you're surrounded with 400 people who never did nothing right nothing nobody never did nothing you're the only one right yeah I'm like Jesus like nobody loses yeah he ever said I'm here for a reason you ever have people Las Vegas I what did you do I want a I had a good time I want 800 nobody ever I lost 2000. I got fucked in the ass.

I got herpes now. I ate some hookah. I'm foaming from the mouth. You know, nobody says that. That one says that, huh? Yeah. Tell you. I mean, why would?

I mean, it's, but it's crazy to, for two years out and beyond, and I said it last night, but to be on the beat, I'm surprised I didn't put you in a desk job. And I also wondered that. If you just, if you weren't really like,

and I guess you weren't to being a cop, But if I was going to be a cop, I would go and find a desk job to go out to where you're doing 100 calls a day. Fuck that. Why would you become a fucking car on the desk? Not even that. The action. I became a cop to help a woman give birth during a fire. I became a cop to shoot an assailant who's fucking raping a girl in an alleyway.

Right. I became a cop to fucking. Save the world. To save the fucking world for itself. Right. Okay, that's the beginning. I can see that, man. Listen, though, when I came from Cube, I bought this.

You're not going to sit behind a desk and answer a fucking phone. Fuck no. Fuck no. I want to fucking pick up perverts and people hang out in prox and show their dicks to old ladies. I want to be out there. I want to get beat up and beat motherfuckers up. I want to get in it. If you're a cop.

Who wants to be in a desk for 20 years and tell your grandkids what? What you did? I answered the phone. That damn phone hit me in the ear. That's what I did. I fucking drank coffee. I didn't see no action. You want your phone beat their shit out of me.

And I'm that guy, though. I would not. There's no way. Oh, I'm that guy, too. You think I want to get shot at? But why become a cop? It's to serve and protect. Not to do fucking paperwork in a fucking cubicle.

You don't become a cop. You can become a cop because you want to... You don't become a cop to be rich. Let me tell you right now. Okay, you become a cop, but you like helping people. You like being involved. I mean, that's really... I mean, I'm a person.

people person you see I love people you know I mean that's why I had a problem being the cop I found out I cared too much like I didn't want to write tickets I got tears in my eyes writing people tickets because I know they had to pay the fucking things so what I used to do was try to

well this is what I really did I would make up names and I go by the fucking tombstones in Cypress Hills and I'd take names down and their date of births they were dead already and I'd say they went through a red light on Atlantic Avenue and Essex Street and you know I'd say they had no license no registration and no insurance card on them so I can give four tickets to nobody and then at the end of the

month they said did you write a book I go yeah I'm this month I'll write you too how's that the fuck because they want to book a month club you know to keep your seat they want to make sure you you know and that was big to keep a seat otherwise you're walking the beat really and cops you know who had a good beat but you know East New York getting a good beat wasn't that it, you know, it wasn't that many good ones, you know. I mean, you could find a good one anywhere. If you like the Borikwa here or the black girl over there, you can have a good beat anywhere.

Don't get me wrong, you know. I remember one time the fucking radio's going off 1013 on Miller and Riverdale. I'm banging some chick on the corner of, you know, on Miller and Riverdale. In your police uniform? Well, I had it off. I couldn't bang away. You were on the ship, right? Yeah, I was, that was my corner.

I'm going 1013. I'm going, somebody must have fucking saw me come in here. I'm putting my fucking uniform back on and shit running outside. I'm on the scene. There's nothing going on here. So one of my guys drives by and goes, Ha, ha, ha, Mikey. You all right?

How's Maria doing? I said, you motherfucker. Did you call that in? I don't know if he did or not. But someone called a 10-13 on that corner, Millen Riverdale. You know? But this is the shit that happens. How much of there is that?

How much is like, how? how much fun do you have being a cop even without the criminal aspect of that's why I loved being a cop I mean don't kick this wrong I mean I loved the blood I loved being in it I don't mean I wasn't touching it and grabbing

and I just loved taking control of these intense situations I learned it by watching some cop I was in East New York about two weeks and this cop he's a big tall strapping Irish guy forget his fucking name if I said Ryan it could be folly

I don't fucking know. But if I saw him, I'd know him. Anyway, he took control. He had his nightstick out. And he fucking took that stick out. And he put it down like this. And everybody fucking knew he meant business. And he had nothing but a nightstick, a gun and some bullets.

Look, you see these guys, they have the bandolier. It's all filled with shit. He had a nightstick, a gun, some bullets, and his handcuffs. That's it. and he just was just he could tell he had that fucking instinct that if you cross this guy

and the guy had a fucking machete it was a guy with a machete that he had I didn't see the machete this was impressed me so much I didn't even see the machete the machete was down the guy's leg all the way almost to his fucking you know they put it down the side of their leg

so they could pull the machete out like this the machetees is this fucking long it's just a two and a half foot machete and the cop fucking takes the stick, blasts him with the stick, and then pulls the machete out. Because I didn't know, I didn't see the machete. I had no clue. But this guy was so fucking, and I'm in

I'm out of a cop, about a year and a half. I'm east New York, about two, three weeks, and he fucking pulls this machete out of this guy's pants. I'm like, holy fuck! This 15 of us standing around not knowing nothing, and this guy fucking saw it, and he was just he handled the scene so

good. I'm like, this guy is my fucking idol. He became a detective, and he did really well, but it was such an intense moment and it was I mean there's a crowd you know because it's just plumbing the ghetto when shit's going down rather than people leave the crowd builds and he just could control of but i'd say 50 to 70 people it was a hot summer night come on you fucking you you're out in them neighborhoods a hot summer night the fucking the people are out you know the zoo's the zoo is alive you know something can happen from one I mean it was crazy you know it's a project right how many people

live in a fucking building in a project. And a white Irish guy is controlling them. Controlling them. I was so fucking impressed with that. That was so powerful. I'm sweating, thinking about it. His experience on the job taught him how to, it's like a comedian that they do

comedy 20 years. You run that stage. You run that stage. When you see those cops, you fucking know it. And they fucking people know it. And they fucking people know it. The confidence know it. The confidence. I learned from that fucking guy. The confidence that comes out of them. And that's the thing about comp.

Yeah. I tell you what they charged you with. And you spoke about it last night. You said you went somewhere and the guy would give you a beer. When I was a kid and I saw this in New York, the Bronx, and in New Jersey. Every neighborhood had a cop, me. How big was the neighborhood? How many blocks do you think?

Let's say, let's pretend you didn't see where I grew up when my mom had the bar. El Chino, the Cuban Chinese guy, probably from 22nd to 30th Street, from New York Avenue to maybe Palisades and down, and he had a cop car somewhere. So if they got a call, he could dump. He could dump and gun on the cop car. So you never knew where he hid the cop car. But you couldn't do nothing bad if you saw the cop car because you know he's out. He's out.

He's out. He's out. Right. So it was such a deterrent as a young man to me. Now, I would see Chino at Hernandez eating. I would see Chino at the New Moon Chinese restaurant eating. I would see Chino hanging out of Speakerman's eating. I would see Chino. And when I say eating, he would have conversations for the store on.

He knew these guys. His leg was up on the ice machine. His hat was off. His jacket was off. They were talking. There was no corruption. There was no shakedown. You better give me this and this and this.

They had a relationship. This happens. Now I hear over the years you cannot do this. more. Can I do this no more? Can I offer a cop a cup of coffee? No, you can't hear you. If a cop wasn't to center of 11, you cannot. This is what needs to change. Now, but. It needs to change. If I'm on a plane,

if I'm on a plane, right, and I see a soldier, and I want to give him my first class ticket, it's kind of the, you understand? Listen, you treat people we meet every day with common courtesy. You can't do that no more, and they charged him with that. Now, when I was a kid, we had the

Chino. Chino would come in the bar. He could have a drink. He would get a club's order. and my mom would go, Chino de Amla? That means that you're hungry. Yeah. You know, I'm not one with you eat them. You eat.

You know why? Whether you're on the other side of the fence and that. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. No one cares. You're not hurting anybody? No. You're not hurting anybody.

He's hungry. When he goes to give you money, you go, no, thank you. And it's understood. We take care of you. We don't want nothing from you. We just want you to eat so you, you know. And that was changing. You're a human being.

We know. You know. you. He never shook down any. Didn't have to. He was going to speak them and they'd give him a cook, and a cup of coffee and... Like, they do, with their friends. I was in Vegas. I was driving home from Vegas and I saw like three or four different breakfast place that

said free coffee for limos and taxi drivers. No purchase necessary. They're not getting arrested for giving them a fucking free coffee. So if a limo driver can get it, which is a fine job, why can a cop get it? Speaking of limo driving jobs, do you know, did I tell you the story yesterday about that? Yeah, you were driving a

limo and the guy called him. And they fucking they wouldn't give me the job. That's a part of society. That's people see felon. Well, he was giving me the job, that's what pissed me up.

He was giving me the job as a felon. Hey, Sarah, today somebody came to me in the gas station. I was pumping car, gas in my wife's rental car. We got to go pick up the fucking car. Thursday tomorrow morning. I got to fill it up.

Well, I'm feeling it up. You know, you're thinking about something? God knows that you're thinking about something stupid. So you're thinking about something. Whatever the fuck it was. I was thinking about. I was looking out like a moron into the fucking sky. Like something was going to come out of the fucking...

Right, right, right, right. You weren't focusing on the job at hand. And all of a sudden. We got a call coming in. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. It's the man of motherfucking steel. Is he in the church?

Oh, shit. Oh, shit, man. It's Walter, man. He's in the church. What's up, Walter? Yeah, man, it's the first time I've been in church since Easton, 1988. Wow. That's a long fucking time, my friend.

God bless you. Welcome to the church. I was in high school. Thank you for calling in. Let's make sure we mention his nephew. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, brother. Joey.

Joey. Happy belated birthday to you. Thank you, my brother, Walter. It was very nice. 53. God bless you. 43 years young. 53.

50 fucking 3. I'm 53. 120 in cocaine I give you, man, I said 43. Fuck that. 53. They earned it. Slinging dick, slinging kettlebells,

walking back and forth with the baby, the school. It's a fucking nightmare. Hey, listen. You know, I've been tweeting in about the fat boys that we used to break down over there on in East New York.

You know, the guy's name was Morales, not Diaz. No. Same is that. My guy's name is. Mark. Markle. Markle.

And, Joey, he's got the same birthday as you. Does he really? Oh, shit, okay. Marky Davis is name. He was halfway there. You know, he's fixed. Oh, I didn't say spix. I said, you're Latino stick together.

Beautiful. It's pretty well, Walter, when they talk you into this movie, when they talk you into this movie, it is one of the, the way they described. He was fucking big. His hands.

His fucking hand looked like the fucking You know, Adam isn't much taller than Lee. No, hence Lee, I love Lake. Adam isn't much taller than Lake. But that's crazy. Everybody's hands are three times the size of Adam. Six fucking five, two-90 coming at you. Going through windows, pure adrenaline.

Having a great time. Adam even. Steroided up. Steroided up, snorting. Oh, yeah, that too. We were talking about walking. Walter, we were talking about your fucking neck if your neck needed a fucking breaking. Walter two weeks ago.

I was using so many steroids. I had to use the steroids. You know, so the cocaine didn't show. Oh, my God, Walter. My friend called in here two weeks ago. When we were kids, in 1988, I would go to his house. His safe would be open. He'd have Coke on the top shelves and deck of the robin on the bottom shelves.

He'd be on the phone, sell him blow. And he'd go, Ma, get in here. And she'd come in. She'd get the deck of ready for him. He'd bend over. He'd do a line of coke, and she'd shoot him in the ass with the steroid. Oh, my God. You can't ride.

Can you get a fucking huge Hold on? I mean, how's that? Dog, he was He was huge. He was huge. Who the fuck would do a line of coke after a shot of steroids? Oh my God.

That's the 80s, bitch. That's the fucking 80s, bitch. I never did it. I wish I, now I'm jealous. Try it. We came up to guys, you know, you know, me and Chicky were doing some wild shit

and, you know, and just like in the movie, like Mike said, you know, they would be the responding thing, you know, and we would let, then know we were going and we were going in. We were going into a place. You know, I climbed through the fucking window, just like chicky said. And, you know, I'd walk into a fucking Puerto Rican guy that was, you know, 6'9,

375 fucking pounds. And let me tell you, the only reason why I got away with what I got away with was because when I was in uniform, the biggest motherfuckers were the first ones to cry. Yeah. You know, Dan. And, you know, I would swing an axe handle or a baseball bat. at his fucking leg and he would fall down like he just came out of his mom's womb. There you go.

You know, I dropped that fucking guy like, you know, like he wouldn't even, he didn't want to be there anymore. You know, somebody asked me on Twitter a couple of months ago, but, you know, shooting people and putting shots over the heads, you know, that didn't work as well as swinging in an axiand with some of the fuck. I had a guy. I don't know why. That's the way it works.

And that was final made. You know, back then between the steroids and the cocaine and the adrenaline And they didn't have problem. Oh, my fucking God. You know, it's crazy when you're in the movie in the beginning and you're yelling. You're saying, oh, that shit, freeze. Get on the floor. I got goosebumps.

I got fucking goosebumps. Brought you back. Because when I got locked up, I got locked up with this black dude named Etchie. And he would walk into the car. He was the head of the kitchen. I was the stock clerk in the kitchen in this fucking place. Yeah, you kept the records. And he would walk in and he'd look at me.

And I tell him, like, don't do it. Because that meant the fool. like shit on shingles, you know, beef on shingles. Shit on shingles. Yeah. And he would always yell

from the back, freeze! And fucking black people would really respond to it. They drop. And the kitchen manager would always go, what the hell is wrong

with you, Mr. Benneble, something. He had a weird name. Medable. That's your guy that gets fucking killed. I was just thinking

I just saw, God bless his soul. I just saw his thing there. And whatever, he would say, whatever, Mr. whatever,

don't fucking come in here with that shit. No. more and when you did it and then after I did it a couple times with the freezes and kick people just because you were playing cop

you were playing cop. No no no I was playing fucking Walter. That's what I mean. And Walter when you say freeze I know in my heart you love doing it. You love doing it. I don't give a fuck what anybody tells you. I don't give a fuck what also you know

you know Michael was talking about that he never had to take his gun out and there's cops there They're proud of it. I'm going out. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't say, I never said. I never said, I never said that.

Well, I mean, the shooting people. I never shot anybody, correct. Yes. Amen. Okay, well, I had two. Yes. I had two. Right.

And Joey, they were both white guys in East New York, buying drugs at a cheap price to bring back to Long Island to sell. Right. Right. Two white guys shot at me. Right. So, you know, this Black Lives Matter and cop lives matter and stuff. you know, it's really kind of wide open because I always have white people

shoot at me. Yeah. You know, everybody knows my nephew. God bless him. Got shot to chest last week by 357 from some fucking mutton named Jamal. God bless him. He's arrived. He's doing well. He's got a big bruise on his chest.

And that's what cops are like. That's what cops need to do. Yeah. Amen. Yeah. Wow. Thank God he survived. I'm sweating. Listen. Let us sweat and listen to that. But anyway, God bless him.

So how's Tennessee? How's Tennessee? Where are you in? I'm in Tennessee tonight. I'm in my log house in Tennessee. Okay. And, you know, people are slowly surely figuring out around here that I am who I am. And they're wondering how I got this log house on the mountain in the middle of the fucking forest.

Joey, my neighbor is seven little fucking guys with a hot brunette, you know. if you catch my drift. I live in the middle of fucking nowhere. I'm going to go to Nashville. I'll be in Nashville, August 23rd. I will be in Paducah. About 80 miles south of Nashville. There you go.

I'll be in Jackson the week before. Oh, yeah, I hit Tennessee all the time. And I'll be in Paducah, March 18th to the 20th, which you could drive to Paducah. Oh, yeah. But I'm a lot. Kentucky. Send me some love. I'll go there.

Yeah, Paducah, Kentucky. I think it's only a couple hours from here. But my wife is from, not Prestenburg, but the other fucking place, I can't remember now. You know, there's so many burbs and so many goes down here, I can't keep up with them. She's a bird girl. They eat squirrels.

That's all I know. They eat coon. Right? Let me tell you something, man. One of the sisters and co. That's a nice part of the fucking country. You know, it's quiet. People mind their business.

You're very lucky. You got out of there. I mean, I'm sure you miss New York. you know, guys like you stand out like a motherfucker. He do know that, right? After people think you're in the witness relocation plan. Yeah. Yeah.

And that's what a lot of people think. You know, I moved away because, you know, I went to prison twice. Yeah. And, you know, if I go back a third time, I'm doing 25 years, you know, flat out because of Bill Clinton, you know, on the three strike rule. Right. You know, so I had to get the fuck out of dodge. And I did. You know, I raised the family.

You know, I had a wonderful job for 20 years. and I'm semi-retaried now. I've always been a little retired. I have a son. And, you know, I have a lady friend who takes care of me, who looks after me. You know, because, you know, dude, I'm pushing fucking 60. You know, I ain't that fucking wise guy back in 1987. In 1986 when Michael Dowell was getting me in trouble.

Yeah, I know. You fuck you, you try to drag me to the crack house. You fucked the first day I met you. I saved you from that. He's trying to bring me through some crack house. He goes, they're selling drugs all this. So no fucking kidding, you don't know who I am. I go, of course they're selling drugs.

That's what they do around here. Then I got him to take his clothes off. Hey, I got him to take his clothes off. I got him to take his clothes off. I had the hot sauce on. This guy's eating hot sauce. He's taking his clothes off. His sweats coming off the top of his fucking head.

I can't eat that shit, man. It was November. It looked like I took a shower. He was fucking sweat. I go, what the fuck is ruined you? I didn't know. I was on steroids and cocaine and everything else. I took my shirt, my bullproof vest.

sitting in Michael Dowd's car and, you know, I was soaking fucking wet. You know, if anybody saw those pictures on Twitter, you know, last month when we were in Miami, we were both wearing pink shirts. You know, we looked like two douchebags. It looked like we just got fucking married. Yeah, that was good.

That was fun. So, you know, we had a ball. You know, Michael is my more than adopted brother. And always has been. Amen. You know, my family, besides my mom, God rest of soul. Amen. Turn their back.

saw me in 1988 and 89. The Walter stayed Walter stayed with me for a year when he was out on bail, you know. I mean, what was it going to do? You don't turn you back on. His wife told him after I was there for a couple of weeks. Listen, you know, you got to pick something.

And he said to her, you know, okay, where are you going to go? And he dropped her off over at Kenny and Dory's house. And I said, Michael's house. Where are you going? Until he drove me to prison in July in 1989. Thanks, Walt. I, you know, thanks for the shout out.

You know, it's just true character. That's what we are, you know. That's how we keep it real. You know, Michael, Michael stood by me. You know, there was so many people during that year in 1988 to 1989 when I was under indictment that, you know, why does Michael have Walter over at his house? Oh, yeah, I got a lot of shit. If you're trying to make sure that Walter don't rat on him and blah, blah, blah, you know.

I'm trying to keep you alive. You know, I never had. I was trying to keep you alive. I never had any intention. I never had any intention on ratting Michael out. You know, when I got there, he told his father, my name was Steve. Because he didn't want his dad to know. People have no idea what happens when you get arrested.

And your names are in the paper. People really have no idea that everybody turns their back on you. Everybody. Everybody. People that you took care of will turn their back on your name. But there's always two, maybe three guys that go, listen, don't come over the house in the daytime. you know, the neighbors, whatever, but I'll see you here, and I got paper for you.

So I know where you're coming from, and I know that, you know, the love that it takes for people to do that. Because when my name came out in the paper, after that, people stopped talking to me. People stopped talking to my girlfriend. The guy who you fucking shovel his driveway, I don't want to talk to you anymore.

Nobody wants to talk to you no more. It's a weird, it's a very weird sincerity. And we do deserve that. No, the public appropriation. You deserve that fucking castigation. However, what we're here about today is to talk about the future. You know, when a cop fucking, human beings fuck on. Well, this show is about second chances.

That's what I'm saying. This show has always been about second chances, whether it's addiction, whether it's getting busted, whether it's fucking fear, you know, it's second chances. And listen, man, I've watched all of you guys on this documentary. And like I said, I watched documentaries six, seven, eight minutes, half of them are You guys, you showed one thing. You did it. You did your time.

You learned a lesson. You move forward. You know what? You had a good time doing it. That's why you were fucking doing it. If I'm telling you that the precinct next door just got hit and they're coming here next, and you're still going to fucking Chango's house to pick up a small dog, a kilo, and a fucking, you're crazy. But who could judge you at that point?

You got powder going through your hair, steroids, booze. You don't see everywhere You got this chick shacked up This guy's waiting on you You got it's it's it's you get me jacked up here bro. What are you fucking trying to do to me? It's overwhelming because I was there I know what it's been like to go you know what I got a job? I don't give a fuck I want to sell coke You know

It's unbelievable We got to do that night We can go I got I got t And you know I got two and a half to seven in half in half In 89 I started July 4th In 1989, I come out January and 92. You know who the first motherfucker who I called was?

Tell him, Michael. I don't remember his name. Michael fucking Dowd, Michael. I know you did, motherfucker. I don't know him a fucking morning. And what happened the first day? After that, after you banged cookie out, then what happened? He got me a job.

That's right. In my precinct. In my fucking 9-4 precinct, a Pat and Dom's auto body. shot. Tote job. So I was responding. I had it all set up. I got Walter the job. I'm the responding cop. I got every vehicle in the fucking city coming to my hands.

I'm making 10% on every fucking job. I got Walter walk on him. More than I fucking made when I was in the fucking police. He started out making more. Yeah, he started out making more towing than he was making in the police department. Yeah. And then I smacked up

one of his fucking truck. And then Kenny got me a job in East New York. And, you know, the rest is you know well Kenny is he the one who asked to sell cocaine for him

I don't want to get him you know I tweeted last week or two weeks ago you know that we don't need to get into a fucking room and start

asking you well that's up to him no no leave him out of here he ain't here to protect himself fuck it let's move forward

here and shit you know I don't want to comment on that you know I like Kenny yeah so

you know you know I know I know what he did you know and hey besides from that when I was filming my part of the documentary you know they put me in some fucking loft up on

east 9th street in Lexington Avenue in New York in December 2012 right after the fucking that storm Sandra Sandy you know I'm up there you know and you know I was not a fucking dead

you know this guy you know is bringing me into New York and I don't like New York much, you know, a little leery. And so we go up to this loft and, you know, okay, everything was cool. You know, the cameras were there, everything was there. But, you know, you never know. Anyway, the guy asked me, he says, well, how did you feel about going to prison? So, well, you know, tell her, you know, I didn't fucking like going to prison.

You know, and basically, you know, I didn't have to go to fucking prison. Right. You know, either time, either time. Because, you know, it was twice. I was indicted twice. 88 and 92. And, you know, I didn't feel it in my heart that I had a, you know, snitch on anybody or, you know, or tell on anybody.

How, how, how, how were you pressured a lot? I'm sorry, were you pressured a lot to, to rat? Well, you know, the police department, you know, when the 7-7 went down, the 7th, 7 went down because they grabbed two guys, you know, winter and ragno, you know, We got you. And then they, you know, started wearing wires and got the other 13 or 14 guys. When I was pinched, it was too public for them to approach me. And I told Tiller Russell, you know, the director of the show, you know, on film,

and it's all on the cutting room floor that, you know, we all had a plan. We all had a plan, probably, to get out of whatever we were in, in trouble with. my plan, if they approached me like Winter and Ragney to wear a wire, I definitely would have signed an agreement, and I would have scrapped that fucking tape recorder to my muscular calf, and I would have wrapped that fucking car around the tree the first night. There you go. Done. Period. Outline of duty, done.

Now, I can't work with them. I'm working for the police department. Now they've got to pay me three quarters. For the rest of your fucking life. That was my plan. But that never happened. Because when I was arrested, in 1988,

it was on the news, two hours later. There was nothing they could do about it. So my plan fell through. And, you know, I went to jail for two and a half years. You came out in great shape, Walt. You looked great when you came out, by the way.

You're fucking tight. Yeah, I looked like a bad. I looked better than I did when I went in. That's for sure. I was better when I did when I went in. Well, that's it usually happens. You know, you're not doing bad habits. You're in the middle of a lot of shit.

You know, I knew what was going on in the street. You know, Michael was busy. Kenny was busy. Other people were busy. And I stayed away from it all. I think Michael, you know, Joe, we find a Bible if you can, if it don't turn it on fire if you touch it. And give it to Michael, he could swear on that Bible.

I can do a fucking thing when I come out in 92. Yeah, I know. But they were watching him. He paged me. You know, the one thing that you skipped over, that was very important in my life was his mother who was dying of cancer by the way, God bless her, came to see me. Yeah, my mom.

She came to see me to tell me that Walter says they're coming up to see him about you. And Walter's car was in the the one they grabbed from him, was in the in the impound. It was in the impound. And they put it right in front of me because they thought I was going to try to steal the car

to get rid of the habits. I already sent the fucking Dominican to Dominican. I already took The guy was out of the country. His case was closed. They were done. They couldn't charge him. I don't know if he gets his job back, but they couldn't fucking prosecute him

because they had a Dominican guy chased back to the Dominican Republic. Total Affairs went to the America and brought him back and kept him in protective custody until... They kidnapped them. Basically.

Well, they threatened to put his sister... They threatened to put his sister in prison and take the kids away from her sister as well. I mean, we had it all wrapped. They were done. The shit that people don't know about. Jeff and Chicky, we were all walking away from there.

Yeah, three guys getting their lives back until Internal Affairs was the Dominican Republic, grabbed and brought him back. Cucks. Fucking tremendous. Walt, I'm going to have you call in. We're going to wrap it up here because we've got about 15 minutes left. So we're going to wrap it up here, but I'm going to have you call in some other time. We've got two more questions from my man, Mike.

I love you, man. Thank you for taking the time out tonight. We'll have you calling. Stay black, brother. God bless. You too, brother. Good night. What were you thinking about, Lee?

Well, I was wondering if any cops ever, like any good cops were ever like, hey, stop it. Or like, we're going to hurt you or we're going to, like, did anyone? Because you always talked about how all the cops were like go dirty. Did any cops ever like? One time a young rookie cop when I was in a 9-4 precinct tried to turn me in for fucking drinking. But he wouldn't say why. What it was is I went to the ball. I picked up a drink.

and he saw me come in and come out and he knew it was a fucking drink I said you want one he goes no it's all right the next day he he told I was in the car with him again because my partner was out my partner went through the windshield of his car

dropped me off at 4.30 in the morning I said do a couple of bumps you gotta you're gonna fucking drive back to fucking Valley Stream he goes yeah I go it's 430 the morning we've been drinking all day you gotta do something he goes no no no stay at my house bank my wife stay please don't drive home ends up going through the windshield of his car

he's out for six, eight months, whatever it was. I end up with these couple different people in the call, so this rookie gets in the car with me one day, and I want to test him a little bit. So I go to the fucking... He's going to be a hard one to break, but I want to see. This is the one mistake I make. I go in, I come out with two.

He goes, no, I don't want any. The next day, he refuses to get in the car with me. He doesn't say what I did, but he refuses to get in the car with me. They start this big fucking investigation now. So now he dragged the kid in and say, why won't you get in the fucking car without he says I just don't want to work with

he didn't want to say why but it was pretty clear that something was wrong but he they wouldn't fucking work with him again anybody in that precinct nobody and I didn't I mean what I do I gotta go because everybody liked to knock them back you know it was the end of the age the 90s we

put the hole in the floor with the ice bucket and in the back of the patrol car it was knocking them back when they could you know it was a fucking free for all but no one work at that kid that kid's career was ruined for that so yeah I mean I don't know he was a good cop

he was a prick I wasn't fucking shaking anybody down I was having a cold one doing my regular stops I mean does that make him a good cop I guess in your book it might I don't know I mean don't fucking work with me

you can't have a fucking cold fucking cocktail that's where you got a badge right so you can do shit back in the day not today the world is different

come on listen if you're a CEO Christian group you go to lunch you're going to turn one fucking back as long as you weren't drinking 19 of them in the fucking cop car

you were drinking and one of fucking two fucking inspector said that to us I know how the fucking works go have one go have a beer for lunch with a sandwich exactly I'm not mad at you in New York people brown bag all the fucking time it's if you get six of them in a fucking bar you're in response to you know I'm saying

that's the other fucking man you spook this fucking kid this kid only Well, he must have been, he must have been, he must have seen something else. No, no, no, no, he knew. They know who I am. Everybody did. And this kid was on probation.

He was scared to death. He didn't want to lose his job, which he's smart in that respect. But instead of losing his job, but now he lost his career. But, you know, no one want to fucking work with this guy ever again. Guaranteed. I mean, you were talking early on in the hearing about being good and how it kept you safe. Right. So, like, if he wanted to.

Switch partners couldn't he have just done it in a different way like just gone about it? No, because you were assigned to work with somebody in patrol calls so when the road call comes out You're working with out today most people would have shot a load though working with me They're fucking excited because they're gonna have a good day they're about them fun but couldn't he like go up to somebody and say switch with me I get listen I had a great day every every fucking day I used to go to people's homes they used to invite me in for Sunday dinner I mean this is for real like like in the 90s I was going to people home parking a patrol car in their driveway I don't know them

walking in with a uniform sitting down eating the full you know the Italians they eat fucking six hours on the Sunday I hate I I leave the house to go to work my wife at the time city no no I'm good

I'm going to work I'll be fine when I get there I'd sit down and have a six course meal people loved you they knew what you did they loved me they knew what you were doing and you were out of fucking control and you didn't give a fuck and you didn't give a fuck

I love it. You tell me that with the Red Corvette. You told me that. You told me that. You know, but listen. It was a fucking fun. It was fun. I got out of jail, and I got a job with this car wash.

And believe it or not, brother, this guy. You got a job. You got a fucking job. This fucking car wash was a fucking cash cop. This guy was a booster of the college. He had homes all over the fucking world. Him and his beautiful white wife, he was 70. she was 44, fake dits.

There's Guitus. I used to say, this guy's got a lot of Guitous. You know, all the cops went in there, all the detectives, all the DAs, all the college people were in there. Then he had all the rich students, and they had all these people.

Believe it or not, it was 1995 for a car wash. If you put Armour, it was 2495. You know, I would sit there. The guy was paying me 10 an hour, three days a week. 10 to 6, 8 hours. What can I make?

You know, 10 an hour plus commission. He used to tell me the most you could make is 16 an hour if you sell $4 an hour. That was a good salesman. I was hitting 16 an hour every day. But then the chick came to me when she goes, you know, we get a lot of people with cash. What if you put a little circle on the tickets

and we'll split the money at the end of the nights? This bitch was showing up, you know, every night. And she was a fathed, Mike. Mike she was banging me banging me twice a day I used to tell you just give me one envelope she was giving me 2,000 an envelope a thousand envelope the day wasn't even over

she was already handing me a thousand but her uncle was a sheriff in Boulder so she could always count on it if something went down this went on Mike for a year I had money at that house I had money at the house I couldn't even deposit Were you banging a chick? Not at all

I had a baby girl at the time I had a wife at the house. She was an ugly little critter, but I hugged her. Nobody ever talked to her. I talked to her. That's how we used to just talk. You worked her. No, I didn't even work. She just liked it. She just came to him in there. She goes, you know, a lot of money goes

through here. And I looked at her like, this is weird coming from here. At first, I suspected maybe a encrunchment, whatever the fuck you call that shit. Arrasment. Entrapment, whatever. And this bit started popping off envelopes, but you know what, my

I used to go there's an expensive restaurant at the time. Lodizio. My wife was pregnant. I was in the halfway house for selling Coke. It went through my pores. And I'm working at this car wash at the halfway house. And you're supposed to have 40 on you. The most you could have in this halfway house is 40 bucks.

I got $4,000 in the car. I'm driving. It's crazy. And I'm thinking about all this. And I'm on one day, I go, I've got to quit this fucking job. They got to catch me. I'm in Boulder. which is a small community

they're going to catch me my probation officer is going to find out everybody's going to find out why I got fired from here and do you know I went in there one day and I gave my two-week notice and they never caught me because one of the only crimes you fucking

truly got away because you quit not because it pained me when I found that I had to give that job up it paid me that job put me back the map oh yeah that's a lot of cash i was putting 4 000 in a fucking hole away once a week were you washing the cars no i was i was i was with a pad and a piece of paper what would you like to not even no what are you doing welcome to the puddle car wash what can

i get you i'm looking to get the special with the nine ninety five when yeah listen give me 1495 let me throw some arm no let me tell some rims i'll give you the 29 job i'll give you a What would you charge me for the 21? Give me 30 and I'll charge you the whole thing. I'll throw in the undercoding for free. You're paying cash today? Yes, I am. Wow.

That's it. And he would pay $4.99. Let's say the ticket was $34.99 plus tax. The kid would pay $4.99. She would ring up $4.99 and keep the $30. Right. And she did that 10 times an hour. But what happened to all your sales?

Like, what were you worried? You were going to lose your job? The visa people. Oh. Swipe. And I always sell accessories. So she would get them for the basic car wash, which is $4.95 plus something. A rim cleaner.

She would always get them for something. And they would pay me big commissions. Like if I did 10 arm rolls in a day, they would give me 50 bucks, but they gave me something else on top. That sounds like a good job. This was a fucking phenomenal job. They never caught on that the dude that's doing his job, if he's a slick hustler can make some bank. Plus he controls the whole thing because I could send him to the car,

the detail shop. But my point in the story was that I was 30 fucking years old, Mike. My wife thought I was an angel. Meanwhile, she would go to bed with the baby and I'd snore the fucking 8-born two hours.

You know what I'm saying? And I'd jerk off for three hours. And I'd go to bed before she'd wake up. My heart would be tame. By the time she'd wake up, oh my God, how did you sleep? Fantastic. And I did this every night.

I was living a fucking lie. And one day I woke up and I got to quit that job. Because they're going to catch me stealing. It's going to be all fucking over. And I quit. You know, I've always been able to fucking sneak out before they got it. When I was in a halfway house, I ended up moving in with the chick from the halfway house. I'm sure you did.

I'm sure you did. I was bagging her on her boyfriend's couch. he's like come on in because he's done with her he wanted I didn't know

he wanted to get rid of it I'm walking around naked and this guy's living room banging this chick the fucking phone's ringing because they checked the house you know in the morning

three in the morning right she's all fucked out she's sleeping like a lamb right and the phone's ringing and you can't punch her awake you can't beat her to death

she only wakes up when she wakes up it's like she can't wake up so I'm answering the fucking phone They're going, I doubt. They fucking know it's me because they used to call me at my house.

I used to have the home confinement thing. You know, they call your house in the morning. So I'm like, who? I don't know. This is Joe. Joe, Joe. They go, okay. No, it's me.

I'm banging the chick in the halfway house. I'm not allowed to date a girl. No, you don't have to date people. For probation. For probation, you can't think. You never stopped. Like, you never stopped. Like, you never stopped.

Like, you never stopped. Like, you never stopped. Trust me. That's not true. I did. I fucking 12 and a half years, I stopped. You've never stopped. You've never stopped.

You're a fucking savage, and that's why I love you. I ain't mad at you. I have, you don't. I wanted to get late. You spent 12 and a half years. I can't see. You're fucking, you'll fuck the war. Please.

Listen, I didn't get, I didn't go to prison. I almost spent 12 years without getting late. Look at the shape off. How was that? You better off in the joint. It's a fucking nightmare. I was trying to think of birthdays. I'm on my 25th.

whatever fuck it was. On my 22nd birthday, all I wanted was a piece of pussy. That's it. You know, we just want a good piece of fucking malanga. And sniff it and fucking finger-bang a muffler and eat a muffling. Get a fucking. I want. I'm going to chew on the mic here in a second.

I ended up eating Chinese food and go into a movie. There you go. The best Chinese food I ever had. Yeah, it was like you had an orgasm eating the motherfucker. I forget what movie it was, but it's a, you know. It's The point is You're a fucking sorry

It's And I It's It's I hope that this cigar business Get your mind That ease You know what I'm saying

This is You like cigars Maybe you don't I don't give a fuck Whether you do it's a nice cigar It's a nice cigar It's got the medicin leaves And that whole fucking thing

Yeah You know You donate some to the PBA Absolutely But you know I don't want to be told What to do You know what I didn't write

You know what I mean I know I know what I'm doing. I don't need people who tell me what to do. I haven't made a dime yet. I'm in the hole for a couple grand. This isn't even my product. This company Palmer in Dominica, they produced it. They asked me to help market it

with them. I'm doing what I can. I don't want to make money. I want to see everybody. I want to do something private, though. I don't want to make a big scene about something. You know what I mean? So, you know, this fucking posting, you know, it screwed everything up today, you know, uh, it puts some people in a bad

place, you know, I got cousins. My phone was ringing. I left here last night. I didn't get to sleep to 2 o'clock after I jerked. I don't remember. And then it was 5.30 in the morning. My phone's ringing again. You know, it's because New York people, it's 8.30 in the morning. It didn't stop for hours and hours.

I was on the phone today for about seven hours. Handling all this damage control bullshit. You know, they don't want to give you a chance. You know what I mean? They got to take your fucking knee off the back of your neck. My daughter never stops. It never

stops. You know what? I mean, I'm not going to stop that either, okay? It never stops until you stop. You know the deal. It never stops till you stop. Let's keep going. Now let's keep rolling, buddy. That's the thing. Keep it rolling. I'm really fortunate that I always got

in this fucking stupid, fucking comedy shit. Thank God. And I you know, and I played till 2005. I played till 2007, because every time I got in that fucking car and got a gram of blow and drove a thousand things could have

Oh, yeah. A thousand things are going to happen. And I'm going to sit here and tell you I was a saint. I was opening up the bag, crushing the rock. Well, God. And no, at the light, I'd put the fucking thing in there and snort the whole gram in one fucking nostril. Before, and I'd throw the baggie out, licked of dollar bills,

which had hepatitis or whatever the fuck it had on it. And then I'd fucking put it in my pocket and go home like nothing happened. So I can't tell you I wasn't out of control. But everything changed when I stopped. You know, I'm like, you just stop. You got to stop everything. You got to stop everything. Even the little things that you think that, you know.

Yeah. That's it. You're a fucking, fucking phenomenal guy. You got loyalty. Thank you. You have feelings. You're sensitive. I seen it.

How you fucking got upset. I'm the same way. People do something. They have no idea. This guy has no idea. I'm worried about my friends. I don't worry about me. This guy has no idea how upset I get when I get repubbing.

Ports, he goes to Subway Sandwich. Explain to him how. He's from Boston. I'm from Jersey. I got the highest respect for him. But he's a way... He breaks my heart. He does kettlebells. He goes to the gym. He takes ballet with his wife. He does the stuff with

the bar. The guy lost 90 fucking 20 fucking 7 years old. He goes to Subway. Instead of getting a nice fucking sliced turkey, look at I'm 53. I'm an old fucking man. But I know if I was 27, and I'd be looking like Rambo before the operation.

You understand? I'd be jumping off of fucking buildings and shit. I'm trying to get there, but... No, I see that. I saw you. Subway is... I don't know. Everyone goes to Subway.

Fuck Jared. I told you. Jared was fucking 14-year-olds. That's why he lost weight and burned carbs. Not because he was a nice guy. No, from chasing him. To be chasing him down, probably. So the one thing I wanted to ask you about was Diaz.

What kind of balls do you have to have to... request $25,000 just to meet a mob boss and then look what if he said no what if he was pissed off? He had to say yes he wasn't real. He had to say yes if he would have said no he wasn't real

he got the right guy and he meant the right guy. He had to say yes there's no getting around this and we're just gonna he's gonna show up with the money because if he knew the game was on he might have showed up with the money and said look it's not gonna work but he's your 25 grand for the discussion

otherwise it's still would have been closed down I would have been sitting in front of it all day long And I would have fucking took him Took him down then. That was one of the most brilliant things I ever heard Because in my background, everybody always knows

When you sell cars, people always ask for a deposit. People always, you know, one of the most brilliant things about Marlon Brando was when he moved to the island, people go, I love for you to read a script.

Okay, $50,000. They go, what are you talking about? You know how many fucking scripts I get sent? I want to know you're real. Before I read, this fucking script. These are the details. I'm gonna change this.

I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this. But I want you to pay me and I don't know what the number was. But just the thought that you had to pay him to read the script gave him so much fucking power. And if you didn't pay him, then he didn't give a buck because you ain't real. He ain't real. In his world, you ain't real.

That's good. What a quick way to pick. I have a dear friend who's a comedian. And when he first started, he signed with a manager. And his manager and him came to an understanding. I do not want to dick around. If I'm not getting paid, I don't want to do it. Don't waste my fucking time.

Today they're both gazillion is. And this guy lives by his own morals, his own, he does what he wants. And people know when they phone him, that they're going to, because the guy did the math. 30 years ago, the guy did the math on how much a sitcom really makes. And he breaks it down from him and says, this is what you want to get me in. This is what you're making. And especially. If I don't show up, it ain't happening?

If I don't show up, it's like it. He buries people. Buries people. People hate them. As soon as you tell people he's your manager, they know. They're like, oh. What's his name? I may have to fucking call.

No, they go. They go to back again. I may have to call them. No, because you get, you know, these fucking savages are. They get pissed off. But that's what I see in you, man. You're a sweetheart of a guy.

You know what? You made a mistake. That's it. And you know what? You paid a fucking tremendous dude. Twelve years for some people is a fucking lifetime. You paid for everything you did. If anybody knows the meaning of karma, it's you.

You know what karma is. Thank you. Every day when you woke up, you said, today I'm paying for this. Every morning when you woke up, you thought of a scenario that you had done. Somebody you pulled over something. Every morning. That's what people don't understand. It's a prison inside around you, and you think about it.

It reminds you every fucking day as you're walking. You watch those movies or people have flashbacks. You have flashbacks of everything you did. even if you forgot about that thing, you have a flashback home. I have a million fucking stories. They never escape. They never escape. Every night, every day.

No, every day. I went to prison. My son was in kindergarten. I came home and was going to fucking Northeastern University. Now that's a fucking, think about it. Kindergarten, Northeastern University. I was in their halfway house. I begged them, can I go to his graduation?

Anyway, it's the cost. It's the cost. People have no idea. It's the cost, you know. That's why before you judge somebody who's a felon sometimes, and there's people that you see that are just, listen, you're sitting there saying to me, well, Joey,

what's the difference between a burglar and a child molester? You know what I'm saying? Listen, read into this. There's people who deserve a second chance in times in life. They just made a mistake, man. And there's people who take back a second chance. I decided to take a second chance. I took it.

I knew nobody was going to give me a second chance. And that's what you're trying to do. You're trying to start a business. I don't want a fucking hell. I do it. You're doing it on your own. You're not looking. Right now, you know, you get a check from the government every month. You're disabled. You're a felon. Right now, you come out, go to a psychiatrist and say, I'm hearing voices.

I hear black people yelling at night. Right. And that's it. Guns are going off. Shoot. Guns are going off. They cut your check for 800 a month. I want to hang myself. And you become a fucking burden on society. You gain 400 pounds.

You start going to a scooter. You go to custody. Yeah, you don't walk anymore. No, you don't do shit. That's what happens. You're at least. Trying something. Yeah, I'll try it.

So I applaud you. That's why I'm happy you came out. That's why I did, but I did for you to come out. I love you. I love you. I love your eyes. And I know you're going to make it work in the future. Whatever you do?

And you got mine and Lee's support. Who gives a fuck about a fat spake? You know what I'm going to try? What a Jew? Forget about it. You know what I'm going to, I think we're going to try to do something with, like, a radio, with another cop. Like a good cop band, cop show or something like that. I think it would really work.

I think I could actually affect. The community. Right here. What we're doing right here with another cop instead of me and Lee? Yeah, and I love you guys. I'd do this. If you guys should pay me, I'd stay. No, no, no, no.

What I'm saying is you need somebody next to you. Keeping it real. To call society's sports right now. Society's got a lot of shit going on, you know? That thing in Chicago with the kid just unfiring bullets and them and the black kid smoke coming out. That was terrible. It's horrible.

It's horrible. It's horrible. And how these police departments are covering it up. and those people that are getting shot, they need a voice. If you're willing to do this with the sincerity, a white, black cop, I wish you all the luck in the world if I could do anything for you. If you're going to be a voice for these people who, and listen, man. There's a voice for the police and the community.

It's for everybody. Because this is the other side. There's another side of being a cop also. Right. Humanity. That people don't see that I see. But right now it's a different time. these cops never really had life training they believe what they were taught

they never really had life training there was some people listen listen let's listen Joey some people just don't know how to do it okay you can train anybody till they're fucking blue in the face most cops the reason is one dead person too many is too many right we agree but the reason there isn't more dead

is because most of these guys are pretty restraint but it's the one guy that ends up on fucking YouTube hitting a guy 11, 12 times. That's still on, that's on the ground. He's buck and bouncing. What are you doing? Doesn't make sense. That's all I got to say. I don't want to talk about that shit. Let me give some shots. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Dean Giuliano, Fishman, My Info, Uki Spooky, you sexy savage, us warrior, Joe Fentross.

Jimmy, my man that came up to me in the casino. I love you, cock sucker from Chicago. We're just going to call you Jimmy Vegas. And my man Jonathan Hernandez. What are you fucking nuts or what? 20 to life, no parole. Lysayat, what's happening? Why are you sitting there all timid looking like somebody's taking your lunch money?

All I gave you was 400 digits tonight. What's the problem, man? He's doing better. Yeah, he's doing good tonight. Last night, you fucking almost killed this last night. I was calling ambulances for the two years last day. No, I was good. I was just nodding over here for a second.

What were you going to say? You were sleeping in the middle of talking about me. I know I did. What happened, brother? What do you want to wrap this up with? I'm trying to look and see what it would be a good question to ask about. What fucked you up the most about this? We're all family here. We could all talk. You're allowed.

Well, you're mad about the kidnap? Come on. Bring it out. Even the, I was scared of cops. But like, like you said, you were right. Officer Rocky was a fucking cool guy. If I saw Officer Rocker right now, I'd give him a hug. And why couldn't you carry that through? No, no. And I can. And obviously, when people know you, they're like,

they end up liking you. Right, thank you. But the thing that when people watch it, and that's what, for Joey, who, and for people who didn't grow up in that, it doesn't make sense at all. And I can see where some police officers get upset. Right. Because of what you did. And you don't.

So can I, by the way. So, yeah, what would you, like, you're here trying to make a living. You're here trying to better yourself. But what do you say to people? who said, well, you don't deserve to be able to do that. Well, I say, then, what are you going to do with somebody? Put him in the fucking grave? You know, what do you do?

You're going to give people a second chance in life. You've got to give them a full second chance in life. I'm not saying give them a gun and badge back, but you've got to let them go live a life. You know, you can't get in their way. Don't get mad if the guy's hacks. You know, what is? It's the haters.

It's not the, it's, look, if a guy doesn't like you because he's a cop and you disparage the badge that he wears, you know what? Tell him to look around to his left and his right, he might find someone doing the same fucking thing. You know, I mean, it's over. I did my time. I paid my debt back to society.

So I understand if you don't like me. You don't have to. I'm not asking you to like me. I want everybody to love me. Never mind to like me. But if you don't, it's okay, you know. Just don't be trying to prevent somebody from moving forward in their life because that's not what our society is about.

And that's what pisses off other people. I know what it's like to be ostracized and, and castigated because of what I did. I accept my punishment in life, but stop, take the fucking knee off the neck and let the guy live. Any one of us. Felon, non-felon, you fucked up.

You know, you let him up, like Gingrich once said. You either kill him or let him out when they let him out. Trambole said that when you walked by him, he got the sense that you were a part of a criminal. Right. Do you think if you walked to, like, do you think you're still giving off that, that thing or do you think

Well, maybe it's confidence that he lacked, that's what I would say. He probably lacked his own confidence. He might have been a little soft in the it in the pants or something, I don't know. I don't have to fucking tell you. I was a cop. People loved me, respected me. I controlled my fucking beat. I walked into a store, the fucking bodega owners, put their arm around me,

took out the Remy, have a fucking shot, have a beer. I walked into a precinct. Every fucking officer looked at me. What did it feel like when you put the uniform? I looked like fucking Wyatt Earp. I had my I love fucking It was It was like This is embarrassing

It was I loved it It was like sex It was so fucking good I put that uniform on I never buttoned my I was pretty good shape I never buttoned my top button up My fucking chest was hanging out

No bulletproof vest The boss is like Where's your vest It's in the car I'll get it on later You got it boss I'm just fucking I loved it

I just loved it Oh It's like getting fucking sweaty I just love being out there that fucking uniform and even you know what the thing was this is where people don't realize even at a uniform you still controlled the fucking ghetto it was the way you walked it was the way you fucking didn't give a shit when you walked into you know the fucking ghetto was dangerous dude but you walked into a bodega you were you owned the place you walked down picking avenue

we're all the fucking crack dealers well and all the fucking shootings and killings going on they knew they used to say officers how you're doing today It was like, God, you were walking in part in the seas, wherever the fuck you went. It was amazing that feeling. It was amazing. Sometimes I still feel like it, too. I don't, you know, I mean, I'm a little more cautious. I'm old now.

They might catch me. But back then, when I was 20-something years old, I was quick, I was strong, I had a gun. Who the fuck's better than you? Money now, I'm making money with my skill. Why didn't you just save the money? Like, how do you? How do you explain a condo? How do you explain all that stuff?

I own four homes in a condo on the ocean, so I had rental incomes, you know, I knew how to manipulate money and funds, you know, in a proper way. The only thing is I would put, you know, 50 to $100,000 into a house after I bought it, so I would fix

it up with my dirty cash, you know? But, you know, I mortgaged them all. They were all mortgaged to the hill, so when the fucking government pulled the plug on me, they go, whew, they went down the tank I care of them. We just went to Vegas, me for not as long, but Joey said he loved, he likes when I go because I get so happy.

And I, when you were talking about taking the limos to Atlantic City and then changing your money by playing in the casino, how much money were you going with? And what did you play? And how did that feel? Well, you know, you got about $40,000 in a bag, and you got a limousine, and you just cut out of work early. The Holy or later, I made a collar. I made a collar and I'll see you tomorrow. Okay, good luck.

You know, back then you couldn't get tracked with cell phones and all that shit, you know? You're getting a fucking limo and you head off to Atlantic City, you take out tens and 20s and 50s and bundles and you just start unloading it and playing cards, spending money like a fool. Nice time, you know.

And then there's times money only have like maybe $25,000, whatever. It's just money that's not yours. It's money that's not yours, but it is now. And it's fucking joy. It's even hard to believe to count the money. I can't believe you guys are going down there and washing half of it, just trading in

small bills. It was a great time, and that's the reason why I love it. People made a lot of money. Because you're not sitting there with a fucking Bible saying this and that. You're going out there, you're putting it out there on your arm and your sleeve, man. You made a mistake. Like I said yesterday, I love you to death. I love that you're honest.

A lot of people wouldn't have been honest. I love Walter's honesty. I love even Kevin's honesty. Chickie's honesty. I love that. I love your emotion at the end when you describe your love for Kevin and what had happened. Teddy. I saw the, when you really got fucked up on the booze and stuff like this,

this is the height of your fucked upness. Right. The inside of you, the Irish Catholic side of you couldn't even deal with what was going on. It was too fast. So the only way to make it go by is to be to drink, get your dick sucked, and keep stealing. That's the only thing that covers that hole. That's the people understand. When you see a hooker and she's beat up and she's 60 and she's still sucking dick and she finally got an apartment,

she's sucking dick to fucking bang that hole. It's not for the money. It's not for the fame. It's not for nothing. At one point, you're snorting coke for that hole. You don't even like snorting coke. more. You didn't even like staying the past 11. No. You're doing all this shit

to fill the hall. And I could see all these things. I can see the same characteristics I had. And that's why I love this whole thing. I would be listening to the fucking birds tweeting. As I'm full of, okay, I can go to sleep now the birds are starting to fucking tweet. It's 5.30 in the morning. My son will be on my lap in 25 minutes.

And your heart's beating and on your mind. You're thinking about the guy you robbed and maybe there was a camera up the block. Mike, how to put it? People find you. Themicdiald.com. Right.

And the micdiald on Twitter. What do you got on theemitedow.com? Well, you go on and see what we're up to. I'm doing speaking engagements. I'm involved in some projects with some entertainment projects. And the cigar project is on there. I mean, the little things we're up to being enlisted on there. But, you know, follow me on Twitter.

I've been doing a lot of traveling lately. And a lot of people that I love, I can't quite answer back all the time. so I could just shout out when I'm on Twitter say hello, I'll try to answer everybody. I do what I can. Yeah. Thank you very much for coming out. Thanks for having you guys treated me like royalty.

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