The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - The CHURCH #361 - DEAN DELRAY - Reissue - Recorded live 03/08/2016
Episode Date: July 10, 2023This is a Reissue of Episode #361 with Dean Delray. This Episode was Copyrighted on Youtube and marked and removed due to all of the music played throughout the Live Stream. We went through and remove...d the parts with the music and left the great conversation in between. Enjoy Church Family! This podcast is ALWAYS presented by ONNIT! Go to https://www.onnit.com & Enter PROMO CODE: JOEY, JOINT or CHURCH The Mind Of Joey Diaz is on PATREON: http://bit.ly/TheMindOfJoeyDiaz #JoeyDiaz #Madflavor #UncleJoeysJoint #TheJoint #TheChurch #DeanDelray #LeeSyatt
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You're beautiful.
Lisa, I am.
Given all the information, he's on top of shit flying you.
What are you fucking nuts?
I have like 20 minutes left of that, so.
Ask any questions you want now.
After that, it's not going to.
At least ready to blast off to another dimension.
Fuck, yeah.
That hash is crazy.
I'm talking, dog, I'm telling you.
I'm breaking out hash back out.
Yeah.
You're bringing it back?
We're going to cut a little weed down.
I'm going to smoke a little bit more hash out of the glass.
I'm going to get a wooden pipe.
We're going to old school this.
I have friends that have great fucking hash.
And again, I was forgetting.
getting. I was sprinkling it on marijuana.
And it's really like,
it's like putting, it's like putting,
it's like putting bacon on a fucking good
cheeseburger sometimes. I thought you didn't like bacon on cheeseburgers.
No, I don't. That's what I'm saying? It's like
a hypochondrum. What do you call that shit when you put two of the same things
on the same fucking thing?
Yeah, yeah. So it's like vodka and Red Bull.
Yeah. You know, like it just, but it got hip.
Right. If you really think about it, one side mellows you on, the other side
keeps you fucking awake. Speedball.
Yeah, but it's like a Puerto Rican speedball.
There's no speedball involved.
That's the three minutes.
You're looking at the bro going, my dick is ready to rock.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
If that's a real speedball, your dick is dead than disco.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah, that thing is gone.
Gone inside you.
What's going on, Dean Dowray?
Man, I am so happy to be here.
It's my favorite.
Come down here.
Your new studio, let me tell you something.
I do all my podcasts at my house, and it's like a rock museum,
but I moved to a new place, and it's not set up yet.
So I come in here and it's just got this vibe.
You know what I loved about it when we were in here?
We were playing some music records.
It reminded me of just being in a buddy's room with the bong out.
And his mom would be in the other, in the living room watching soaps.
You know, we're in there just listening to Boston with the blacklight posters and the weed and the fucking, and just rock talk.
You know, like listen to that me, you know.
This reminds me that.
Do you guys have cool rooms at kids?
Like, I met, I had, my mom was so, I was like, she was stricken.
I was just a vanilla kid.
I never, I never really decorated it, but like having a bong or some black lights or some vinyl post.
Like, that must have been fine.
I had all the kiss posters and that David Lee Roth one where he's tied up on a chain.
From women and children first.
Yeah, that one, boy, that one hung up there.
And the kiss one where they're dressed as army, you know, with the drums and the battle wounds, the U.S. Army.
All those, man.
Another Joey Diaz story people don't know about.
So my mom bought a home in North Bergen.
It was a three-bedroom home.
But the problem was one of the bedrooms was a converted attic.
That to any of us, we would jerk off all over it.
Yeah, I didn't like it.
It scared me.
I heard mice up there.
Oh, yeah, attics are fucking scary.
So I would go down to this one in the bedroom.
There was a bedroom where my mom's bedroom was a master bedroom.
I had the bidet, the shower, the tub, the shitter, the window, the whole fucking thing.
Nice.
Two sinks.
And then I had a bathroom in the hallway, but the bedroom I moved into, whoever had the house before, it was a girl's room.
Pink carpet, mirrors everywhere.
Barbie room.
You know how many times people walked in my room and walked into the mirror?
Because that mirror was, it looked like a huge room.
You kept the pink carpet?
I kept the pink carpet.
I put like a little wolf on the floor, like this dead wolf that was like a fluffy wolf.
Somebody gave me like a fur.
and I put like I had the stereo with the speakers
who I robbed from the kid across the street
but then I became friends with him
and he wasn't allowed in my upstairs
like he would come to the living room
let's go to the music now we can't go upstairs
my mom don't let boys in my room
you got the speakers up there
I had the speakers and the stereo up there
I had like a Jimmy
I had a Led Zeppelin poster
that Ray Canella
the guy who calls in here for the podcast
I called a couple weeks ago
he had
and it was Led Zeppelin
on stage, but it was shot
backwards. Oh, yeah, first.
Left hand. The word on the street was that it was a
collector's item and all this shit.
I had a picture of Julius Irving.
Oh, Dr. J.
That long one on the door? I remember that one.
There's his converse right there, those red Dr. J.
And he was still playing. He played
for the Sixers, but at that time they didn't pay the Sixers.
So it was like a generic costume that he had to wear.
Like they took the Sixers off. For the poster.
For the poster.
Hilarious.
And then I had the Sixers.
McDonald's All-American basketball team
and I just on the floor
next to this thing I had the stack albums
and what you know what album I still had
in there I still remember having the Beach Boys
Oh yeah which one?
Round, round, get around
I get around
One of the hits?
Right around that one
I still remember some of my first 20 fucking albums
Yeah
Like the first five or six albums
Were very confusing albums
I was still in the grabs
I told Lee a joke there
somebody, me and Steve Simone, you know, Richard Pride was basically the first album I bought.
Right.
I don't know if is it something I said or the nigger's crazy.
Right.
But when he sees that he sees Jesus, I knew Jesus, I met him on the railroad depot.
I told him, don't go down there messing with them Jews without no money.
You know, I forgot all about that line and shit.
I had that one in Bicentennial nigger.
Oh, yeah.
And I had them hidden.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Because they had to be hidden.
And then I remember having the Beatles, White Album.
I had the Beatles help.
Yeah.
I had, uh, okay, I was like a Michael Jackson dude.
Yeah, yeah.
So I had the last two Jackson albums, moving violation,
and the best of Michael Jackson, who Miss Pat argued with me at that album didn't exist.
Oh, the one with like the bird on the cover?
The pigeon on the cover.
He still has the nose.
He still has the black nose.
That's a great fucking greatest hit to album.
I still remember all these albums.
I, that room was, uh, and I was telling him Lee that,
What I would do is at night, I'd play records in my fucking bedroom.
But in the daytime, I had a little window.
I could play them on my mom's living room stereo, which is kick-ass.
It was one of those old-school box of itrollers with the turntable,
the control on the other side, the TV in the middle.
Yeah, remember that?
It's like an all-one-piece fucking furniture piece.
Guys, one fucking piece of furniture like this table.
Yeah.
This is how long it was now?
Are you serious?
So it went from here to there, okay?
and it went against the wall.
So on that side was the turntable.
Yep.
On this side was the control for the radio also.
Yeah.
The turntable, an A-track player.
And then the TV was in the middle
where that thing is that Kevin put on there.
I guarantee those things still work.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Those things will work to the fucking end of the time.
And I know people who have them.
I guarantee if you go on eBay, you know, garage sales.
They're out there.
And you're absolutely right.
You put a needle from today.
on there and it's brand new, brand fucking new.
Yeah, you know, I saw a guy, Joey, he did something that was so amazing.
He bought one of those and he gutted it out and then he put high-end stuff in there.
So when you looked at it, it was straight 70s, but then when you opened it up, it was just
all this great equipment now.
It was awesome, man.
Like just rebuilt the insides with new shit.
It was killer.
Jesus, I just remember something that's so sad.
It was so sad to me.
for a long time, talking about turntable.
So the kid's name was Renee.
Renee was Puerto Rican.
And when he was moving into the building,
when he was moving into the house,
he went to pick up more stuff
from wherever they were moving from,
and we robbed the house.
And mid-moved.
Mid-move, Rob.
So Renee and his dad and the mother moved out of there.
They were, like, running from creditors and stuff.
But for some reason,
the stereo was fucking weird.
Like the stereo was just old to me.
Like I was like, I don't want this stereo no more.
I need some hip to get the chicks up here.
Yeah, yeah.
To be the cool guy on the block.
And on the corner was this place on four, five corners.
It's still there on appliance place.
Yeah.
And the word on the street was you could go in there and get a fish or stereo.
I think your hands on something.
No, my hands on.
Oh, that's over there.
Okay.
I'm not worried.
about it, which in the day, a fish is stereo,
it was like fucking tremendous.
This was before Blowpunk.
People started saying, oh, you have a fish,
or I have a Blout Punk.
I buy components, man.
Remember because everybody got real cool after a while?
What happened was, and this is why I don't like
a cell phone with a camera and all this shit on it,
because once the camera breaks, you've got no phone for some people.
They can't live without a fucking camera on the phone.
I come old school, okay?
I come from the thing that once your A-track broke,
the whole stereo had to get thrown.
out because it was connected to the fucking CD and the cassette player yeah so here you
were with 90 fucking eight tracks what the fuck you're gonna do now the eight tracks
broke okay now I gotta buy albums I got the almond brothers live from the film
Maurice on eight track and I gotta buy fucking albums so I said enough is enough so I went
down to fucking uh Fischer whatever that was called and you gave him 50 bucks down
and the whole thing came out to like 480 in those days Lee 480 hours
For a 13-year-old kid, 14-year-old kid, it was like $1,200, $1,500, $1,500, $1,500.
Yeah, it's for a stereo, too.
For a stereo.
For a stereo.
And I went and I financed it.
Yeah.
And when I hit the number, I paid it all off.
Wait, they let a 12-year-old kid finance something?
My mom co-signed it.
Oh, okay.
My mom had a co-sign.
Your mom has to co-sign shit.
But at least you made payments.
You had a walk down there.
They gave you a payment book?
They gave you a payment book.
Yeah.
And you had to walk down there every Friday and pay the $15 like a man.
You know, and you felt good.
Like, this was my fucking stereo, man.
Like, this was it.
Like, I took care of this.
I dusted it.
I cleaned the needle.
Like, this was fucking it, you know?
And when my mom died, I never took that stereo.
Oh.
Like, that stereo sat in that fucking room.
God knows what that stereo is today.
It broke my heart because I had a tank.
You know what I'm?
You know, when you have it tuned for you.
Like, you buy a turntable, after a year's through the turntable,
gets to see your style and how you drop the record and you learn,
and you get the needle right.
and it was a sad, it was a sad thing in my life for like three years not having that turntable.
Well, you know, my best friend, they had the Morantz.
And I told Marin this story, and it was basically the blue collar McIntosh.
Like McIntosh was so much money, but the Morantz, and my buddy's dad bought it,
and he had the Morantz 2275 and a turntable, a pint table, a pint.
ear turntable and these speakers and we play high with hell on it and a couple years back i bought
a morant's 2275 and it's in my house and and and i always tell people they go does what sounds good and i
go whatever your ears grew up on like you know because your ears grew up on a sound and that's the
sound your brain remembers forever so when i hooked this whole thing up and i put on you know a record i was
like that's that's it that's eighth grade right there moranx yeah man and they had the blue lighting
and and the in the morants had a weighted wheel for the tuner you just hit it it would go
you know on a ballbarian and that was like pro the other ones you had to turn and they're all
funky this one just hit the the wheel and it just zhz and man i got it now in my house
it is weird to describe it is you know i became nerdish
about it, that I was even buying magazines.
You know me a long time, I don't buy magazines.
I was buying stereo magazine.
Hi-Fi mags.
It's funny, I was watching vinyl on HBO.
How is it?
Vinyl is an interesting show.
It's interesting show.
This week they have like a slime the family stone type motherfucker.
I saw the picture.
Addable and shit, you know, if you like music and you like doing blow,
you know and all that craziness
this is the show for you
you know it's just
I watch it and sometimes I go
what the fuck am I watching yeah
but it's entertaining you know
it's entertaining to a moron like me
because it's my time I was a kid
all that me
last week they sang a song on there
two weeks ago that killed me
the chick that fucking iced herself
with the pills
with the brother Amy Winehouse
no Amy Winehouse
this is the fucking they started
Oh 70s you're right I'm sorry
Oh oh
So they're doing real bands?
It's like stories of real stuff going on?
It's really weird.
Like the first episode is him going into
talk to Led Zeppelin.
And Peter Grant is yelling on him.
He's selling the record label to the Germans.
And then the second episode,
the Germans in the room.
And Peter Grant walks in and he goes,
just let you know, I'm not selling,
I'm leaving you guys.
I'm not going to be in.
I'm not working with Germans.
Yeah, wow.
I don't work with fucking Germans.
They got a guy playing Peter Grant?
Yeah, but he's not really 6'6 to 300.
He's a little short and he talks a lot.
He tries to redo that scene from...
Oh, from...
Yeah, where he's all.
You know the man's out there with the posters.
Yeah, he's out there selling posters.
He's out there selling posters.
He's out there, anything to the name of Lachdape.
He's your fucking man.
He's your man, not my man.
Yeah, that's...
I love that scene.
That's crazy.
And that's, you know, somebody asked me how that scam worked.
Yeah.
You know, in the 70s,
there's the most interesting thing I ever read.
in my life. I had these FBI
files from the 70s. When I was on the road
in the early 98th and 99, I had an
FBI buddy who gave me these files
because I told them that they were doing a lot of mafia movies and he goes,
take these and do the research.
And I can't remember the guy's name right now.
Okay, this is how fucking Lee's Jaws
in the drum. And I read, this guy was a well-known
heroin selling. Wow. But if you look at this guy,
he was a businessman. Yep. You know, he was
the business end of it. No flash, no nothing. But he was a Gambino captain that reported straight
to Costalano. Like, he didn't talk to nobody. That's how much money he was robbing. Okay.
When you're robbing that type of money, but his cover was he was on the board of directors
of a supermarket chain in New York. And what they would basically do is, let's say there was
90 of these supermarkets
all over in New York
and the five boroughs
in Connecticut
Lee they went to each supermarket
and built an aisle
I told you about this
they built an aisle
like in the express line
and that went right to them
wow
like the years later
a general manager goes
every store in the country
has 10 aisles
every store here has 11
why is that
so the 10 registers
they were giving, but the one register was going right to this guy.
That's the payoff.
He had 90 stores going.
An entire register.
Can you imagine what he got like Thanksgiving, July 4?
You think there was $3,000 a day.
There's 90 of them.
Yeah, yeah.
There's 90 of them.
A day.
Let's say you pay $300 for somebody to make the move
and pay you that money every fucking day.
What do you kill the fuck?
Yeah, fuck, yeah.
So what they were doing in the garden was the mob was,
yeah.
Yeah, Leds up.
They don't have their people, but was Peter Grant going to walk on every floor of the garden and everything?
Right.
So they just put up stands.
Yeah, yeah.
In the garden?
Yeah.
Because they still have that now.
Like, whenever I go to a game or a concert, they have people with bootleg t-shirts outside.
Yeah.
But I can't imagine them inside the venue.
Yeah, but this was the mob itself at the garden.
This was the union.
It's all union.
It's all union.
The green coats.
So the union would say, Lee, give me a favor.
Come on a minute.
Listen, I'm going to be 20 T-shirts.
sell them for 10 bucks
you get $3 a t-shirt
what do you give a punch?
Sell them until somebody comes and gets you.
Yeah.
Sell them.
Who cares for fun?
At that table, like when you're
walking around in like the concession area?
In there. He had to have them in there.
In the fucking, never mind outside. That was a complete
different operation. Yeah, that's somebody else.
This is the one inside. This is the one inside.
Inside, like the actual like what?
Yeah. So finally, you know, Led Zeppelin
would do five nights at the garden.
Finally, after the third night, you would go up to Lee and go leave.
Who's the Fett Italian-looking guy?
Yeah.
With the stand, with programs and fucking T-shirt.
He's not our guy.
He's not one of us.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
So let's say I cut a deal with Peter Grant and said, well, listen, we're going to have one concession stand, and that 30% goes to the guard.
Yeah.
I told them about three.
I'm going to have 15 of them.
Yeah.
And the band wouldn't know the band.
Man's busy playing.
Yeah, and also they didn't have big entourage.
It'd be like six guys working with them, you know.
They're not combing the whole place.
So that was just another way.
So that's the scene in the song.
It's the same that we're talking about at Peter Grant is going off on the union guys going.
And nobody knows what the fuck is going on.
It's all stolen.
It's amazing how smart criminals are.
Fucking opening up a bootleg stand.
It's amazing that they could even think of.
Who would fuck?
thing to question it.
Imagine how much they were making on stuff like the Ringland Brothers circus.
They did that everything.
Yeah, yeah, all the events.
Yeah.
Until you get caught.
Did they do like the Knicks too?
Every event until you get caught.
No, well, the Knicks are theirs.
Yeah, yeah, that's this.
The Knicks are in-house.
They're not going to rob themselves.
Oh, okay.
You know what I'm saying?
They're going to rob the least events that come in like my wife.
Like my wife works at the Hollywood Bowl.
They book it, and then there's a promoter who books 50 of them.
they can't get your tickets.
They got nothing to do with that.
They get a check.
They can negotiate a friend fee,
and they sell T-shirts and sodas and beers,
and they keep that.
But the rest goes to the fucking dude.
Fuck.
Awesome.
How many of these scams are just
in everyday businesses that we're unaware of?
Well, I'll tell you what.
This is something crazy, man.
I go to the wheel turn a lot,
and it's over in, uh,
over there in, uh, Korea town.
Bless you.
And these guys, these bootleger guys, they don't even, they're not even afraid anymore.
It used to be, they'd be like five blocks away.
They're right at the front door when you come out now.
And I'm like, what's going on?
Like, these guys don't get arrested.
There's cops everywhere and everything.
And they're just like, no, they pay someone off.
You know what I mean?
Well, like I said, those stuff.
Excuse me.
I'm very sorry.
I got allergies.
They're very, they keep.
do it until they get caught.
So let's say Ringling Brothers and Bonham and Bailey,
they do a three fucking nightstand at the garden.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I'm sure the same thing is done at the Boston Garden.
Don't think that they're fucking immune to the shit even.
Everywhere.
You know, everywhere.
You know, when the fucking team comes to play at the Boston.
The Garden?
The baseball place.
Fenway.
Oh, yeah, Fenway.
You know, they only have six guys selling white socks stuff.
but they got three guys
selling white stock stuff and that goes in their
fucking pocket. You'd be surprised
late.
Yeah.
You'd be surprised how much
little theft there is
that to you and me it's little
but at the end of the year it's
monumental.
I forget what company it was
but I read a
I read a story a while ago
that somehow there's one guy figured out
that if they put one less olive
in every jar
it would save them millions of dollars a year.
So they just started putting in one less
because no one's going to say anything.
Who's counting?
If it says 29 piece, you're not counting.
Can't even remember.
You whipped out some olives for some martinis.
You don't go, hey, we got robbed on one.
Even if you do, you go, oh, we're missing one.
Who cares?
And then there's scams like, I would guarantee,
I don't know the percentage,
but I would guarantee a very large portion
of Apple's entire revenue
is iTunes money.
Yeah.
It has to be.
All they're doing
is selling the music
and their computer store.
And then fucking airlines,
how many billions of dollars
are they making on baggage fees?
Just baggage fees,
not even tickets.
So let's say,
there's a stewardess,
there's a clerk,
okay,
that she'd found it figuring out a way
to type in numbers
so that you don't have to pay
for baggage fees,
but she still charges you.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
See, everything is very computerized now, but there's always a genius.
There is.
People always find the flaw.
And it's not even geniuses.
Like, there's something, when I worked at CVS, there was a button called, like, non-taxable,
and you could just put in a price.
If I was a thief, I could just put everything as one cent and then take the cash if I knew what the price was.
Because after a while, if someone buys a soda and you figure out with tax, it's 204, whatever,
you need something bigger than that, obviously, but you can figure out the prices and just charge them whatever.
I told you when Michael Dow was here,
that I worked at that car wash.
Right, yeah.
And I remember, like, going home and going,
like, I'm robbing these guys legitimately for $6,000 a month.
That's just me taking from them.
What about the partner I got?
Yeah.
She's robbing them for six.
That's $12,000 a month.
They're going to be off a buck 30 next year.
Yeah.
And they're going to go, what the fuck is happening?
Or not.
Or not, yeah.
Or not, because maybe we weren't the only people robbing.
I knew we weren't the only.
people around there.
There was a guy around the back that was robbing blind,
a black guy and his brother that were detailing,
they were detailing 10 cars and saying they only had three.
Yeah.
You know, and they take them six off the top.
Anytime there's cash transactions,
and it's like piecework, like detailing and, you know.
What about when you park your car?
Yeah, the car parkers, all that kind of stuff.
You figure out you could take 100 a night right off the top.
Yep.
Okay, the other day I went to wash my car
It was funny because I had a bunch of change in the middle
And when I got back in the change was still there
And I was like, you know what?
He could take a quarter from every car
Yeah
How do I know?
Because I used to do that
I used to work in certain
I used to be a car salesman in Manhattan
When I was doing comedy in 93
There was nights I didn't have money to go home
I would go into service
And go through the fucking cars
Yeah, get some change
And find fucking books
I would find tokens
To get over the bridge
And those books to fucking
With $4 books
And I would go right to the bridge
And sell them to somebody
Hey there's 10 of them
That's 40 bucks, give me 20
Yeah
Boom
Yeah
There's dudes that
In the Bay area
Bart
You know the subway there
And whenever you roll up
Man there's guys
That have some kind of
Bootleg cards and stuff
And they're like
Hey over here man
Just give me a dollar
and I'll give you a round trip, which is like $9.
You know, here, they've got like slider cards and,
and those other guys that are running with the fake cards for the gas pumps and stuff.
You know, they sell them to truckers,
and then they're, like, just filling up their trucks
till the cards burn up, you know?
Well, what about the people, I saw this VICE video
about, like, the heroin addicts in England
are going and stealing meat from all the grocery stores
and selling it
like black market
just door to door.
How crazy?
Yeah.
Why not?
It's like the copper guys
robbing those houses
for all the copper.
I did all that
shitly,
so I understand.
I get what it is
to steal a steak
from a super mile
I live in Snowmass Village.
I would go in there
every night
and a head of lettuce
and an Oscar Meyer salami thing.
Yeah.
But I would steal
a $10 fucking steak
in my backpack.
I did it.
every night.
Yeah.
And, you know, it adds up.
I feel guilty for doing it today, but I did it.
It's the fucking truth.
And I was doing blow, and I wasn't doing blow those nights.
I just knew I could steal a steak for free.
And some nights I got cocky, I stole two steaks.
Yeah.
And some nights I stole two steaks on a lobster tail for Jimmy Berkel.
That's how crazy I got in there.
I get all this shit.
And now, in hindsight, you feel kind of bad in the way that I did these things.
Yeah.
When I worked at Rendell Lumber, oh my God, when I was 15, 16, 17,
I worked at a lumber yard.
Dean Delray, what I did to these people was brutal.
It was brutal.
I think back to there.
I paid for all those cents.
Brutal.
It wasn't just, it was $2,000 a week in lumber.
I was stealing from them.
You know, the sheet supply wood were $40, $80.
I'm getting $25 a sheet.
Give me $25 cash.
People coming and getting 20 sheets from me on a Saturday.
You know, fucking installation.
Not, no, not this, what's this shit called, Tyler?
Oh, yeah.
What they put on the wall?
walls.
Yeah.
No, the other one.
Oh,
travel?
No, the shit
that's designed.
Oh, like the fucking
linoleum and stuff.
That kind of stuff on the walls.
Yeah.
I used to sell the four by eight people
come in and go,
don't know, the last guy
was here would charge me
dirty a sheet.
Fuck it right back here.
Let's cut the fucking deal.
You know, that guy would come back
there and go, I only made
20,000 today.
Every bin is fucking empty.
Yeah.
We used to have plywood that was
galvanized, so we could put
it on boats.
Yeah.
Marine plywood, it's called.
Those were double the money.
I would sell those for fucking all the dope.
People would just back up their fucking trucks.
And I'd just go back there and help them load it up.
They'd give me cash.
See you later, fucking buy.
I remember I used to have a gas key.
And a fucking, a guy gave me a gas key.
This is when gas went up to like a dollar.
People were like, oh, shit, it's a dollar.
And the old pumps, before their computer,
they're just a
remember those and
and then you know
when you put the pump away
it turns it off and it couldn't start again
until the guy came over with a key and turned it
and then it would reset
and you could pump gas
so
we would
one guy would just distract the dude
working at the station and then you'd pump
and then when he wasn't looking you'd turn the key
and pump again turn the key and then
you'd go up and you go all right five bucks
but you had already filled up like
25, you know, whatever.
Because you could just turn it and reset it.
It had the key forever, man.
People would be like, you got that key, let me borrow it, you know?
You'd have to distract the dude.
One guy was a two-man team.
It's so crazy, what?
The amount of theft.
You know, when people go to work, you or whatever.
And on your company time, you go on the computer,
and you're looking at point on and walking off in your cubicle.
That's theft.
Right, yeah.
You know, all those simple things.
fucking theft, you know, and they add up.
They fucking add up, you know, corporations are thieves.
I mean, I don't feel bad for them.
They rob everybody.
American Airlines, all those motherfuckers.
You know, when you call American Airlines,
you're talking to some poor fucking black chick who got beat up last night,
and they got her in there for the small 40 with no benefits,
booking people of Jamaica and shit.
Meanwhile, this chick hasn't gone out of the hood her whole fucking life.
You know, I'm only teasing you.
But, you know,
When I robbed, when I was a kid and I robbed in those businesses,
okay, like Lee, Lee goes criminals are smart.
This fucking guy I worked for when I was 18,
you rang up the fucking receipts,
and then at the end of the night you zed out.
You closed the register, you counted the money,
you counted your bank out,
you counted if it said $1,800,
and you counted $1,60.
Well, you made $60 bucks extra.
That one in your pocket, you put $1,800 in the envelope.
you put the fucking receipt in there
and you licked it
and you put in the fucking refrigerator
and you put the date on it
that was it. Tipped
60. I took the fucking tip money
that was mine. Whatever I made over on the
register was mine and it was that
simple. Well one man I'm doing blowing the city
and I'm like where can I get some money?
I go wait a second. I got the key
of the bar. I just go over there
and steal on those envelopes.
So at first I stole like two
I'm most like the fucking Puerto Rican than I am.
Yeah.
And then, they said something to all the bartenders.
Somebody stealing an envelope, when they get to the bottom of this.
So I figured out a different way to do it.
I just went and saw the envelopes she used,
and I went and bought boxes of those envelopes.
And I would go in there at night, open up their envelope,
take the new envelope, put it in, and then take 100 off the tops.
Whoever closed the night before we sure the yards stay.
Yeah, you're off 100.
Fucking cruelty, you know.
Who would think of that disgusting stuff, Lee?
I would.
Yeah, drug, drugs.
That's what drugs make you talk about.
How to score fucking money.
Absolutely.
Drugs make you think like that.
Because you're like, man, this Coke back then was, it was 350 an eight ball.
You know, it was 25 a quarter gram.
There was no breakdowns unless you bought like an ounce, you know.
It was like 25, 50, 75, 100, 100 a gram.
350 for an eight ball, three and a half grams.
So, I mean, that's a lot of fucking money in the 70s and 80s.
You're like, where am I going to get that money?
You know?
Do you think how much of it was it just you are a good worker, like have a good work ethic,
and how much of it was all those years of drug stuff, just you were really well.
You trained in hustling and now you're just pointing it towards like actual business.
It was a little bit of both.
My mom had me working at an early age, but even then, like I'm an early age.
I knew how to flip things.
Yeah, me too.
Like, I was doing creepy things at, like, 8 and 9.
You know, like, buying glue for Sticky Charlie
and charge him 25 cents more, even though he was a junkie.
Yeah.
You know, I tried to fucking, that's not a liar of a story.
That's a true fucking story.
I tried to sell this kid.
Let's say glue was a quarter of two.
I tell him 50 fucking cent and try to shake him down.
And most days, I got this fucking loser to give me a 50 fucking cents, you know.
We did shit like that.
I remember we sold bubble yam.
When bubble yom first came out, it was unheard of.
And this one store sold it miles away.
And we'd ride our bike up there on Sunday, and we'd buy like 10 packs for, it was a quarter.
And then we'd sell pieces at school a quarter apiece because no one's seen bubble yum.
That shit was next level.
Square big piece of gum.
Unbelievable flavor.
Delicious.
Oh, and it was like a quarter piece
where making money hand over fit.
And then for a while,
Bubble Yom went off the market because it said
it had like red dye number five in it or something.
And it was gone for like a year.
It was like Bubble Yom's gone.
What the fuck happened?
And then it came back and by then it was in every store.
But back in the day, this one market had it.
It was like a Chinese market.
Had Bubble Yom.
In the eighth grade, I had a shop right
behind McKinley School, where I went to school
and grammar school.
That was my grammar school's name, McKinley.
There was an embroidery factory, a bridge,
and then there was this shop right.
And shop right had an aisle just for gum.
And they had hubba bubba and bubble yon.
And we used to steal a case of bubble yon,
which is like 10 packages in a case in our pants.
And one of us could get caught,
the other one would run,
and we'd go back to the school,
and I still remember sitting in the eighth grade
in Miss Walsh's class
and all of us eating bubble yum
and also somebody went to the front of the class
to write something on the board
people started throwing pieces of bubble yum
at this motherfucker, right? That shit was good, right?
And it hit hard, and it hit
like it was hitting the ball like, ta,
and I remember the janet
with a ladder to fix something.
And somebody threw a piece of gum
and went right between the line.
And it clocked them, right?
This is the funniest thing ever.
It clocked them.
And some kid, Richie Colombo was known to be crazy.
He was walking in from the bathroom.
Yeah.
And the janitor is all in the face.
And he goes, Richie goes, what happened to you?
And the gentleman goes, somebody hit me in the face with a piece of gum.
Richie goes, what flavor was it?
It just walked away from the fucking guy.
That's a dumb shit in my fucking world that I remember.
Man, remember they had the next Bobbi Yume that came out was grape.
and that was like a mixed the flavors up yeah
next level people went to the next level
I still remember when that gum came out
with the squirt in your mouth
oh freshen up
freshen up
purser was green
once cinnamon came out
you lost your fucking mind dog
dude that was the shit fresh enough
freshing up with that fucking jelly in the middle
that just got your fat as fuck
yeah it didn't do nothing to your breath
you still smell like Cheerios
just shot more sugar in your system
you lose your fucking mind
and that gum will get your jaws
tired of the fuck jack you throw you throw three pieces of bubba yum in your fucking mouth
and you'd be working that fucking jaw yeah remember next was big league chew oh that was
delicious i'd eat a whole fucking bag and i'd swallow the fucking thing yeah right i'd swallow the whole
fucking i'd eat it and then swallow that big league are you still shitting it out sure
We're still shitting up gum from 1978.
Yeah, I'm shitting out gummy bears.
I loved all that stuff.
Me too.
When I was growing up, there was a candy store, like an old wholesale candy store in Tumby Avenue.
They sold to other bodegas and stuff like that, but they had this thing called devil gum.
It was way before...
Big Red?
Big Red.
Way before Big Red.
This was in cinnamon was still uncensored.
You eat two pieces of this shit, and your fucking face would.
turned redder than fuck, but it was so delicious.
The gum was so delicious.
It was like that gum from Clark.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, I love that shit.
That shit is so.
Oh, yeah.
They still sell that at the one of one cafe.
Sure they do.
For a dollar 50, they sell those things.
Yeah, and beechums.
Beechums.
Yeah, yeah.
Beachums.
And that shit there has a texture.
It's fucking great.
That gum has a different texture.
Like, chicklets don't taste like that no more.
Chichlets.
Every time you go to a liquor store, it's always fucking hard.
Now they took the mini-chicklets off the market.
Which is the only reason I was going to CVS.
I haven't boycotted them legally yet.
Like I haven't gone on a national fucking boycott yet.
They don't know it yet.
But they used to have the little chicklets in the package.
I would buy four of those.
I love that.
It was like the paper package.
Yeah, and you eat the fucking whole thing at one shot
and you're spitting orange chicklets the whole day.
One sits behind your molar.
Next thing you know, you gotta go talk to the dentist.
You got a little chick up behind your fucking thing.
They took those off the market.
The chicklets are always hard.
God forbid you get a freshen up.
You need 10 jaws, a chick who sucked a hundred dick.
in spring training to bust into that fucking walnut of gum.
Half these gums, and at these Hindu stores, they're always hard.
And the flavor goes away in one second now.
One fucking second.
What is that?
You just chew it like for a minute and I'd just spit it out.
Listen, that don't make nothing like they used to no more.
You're a fucking piece of gum that's a flavor.
And you chew that motherfucker down to the stem.
Lee, what's going on?
You're ready for another star?
You're going to sit down like a mama looking here.
I'm good.
I don't think I need another star.
Yes, you need a lot of fucking things.
Did you eat dinner?
What did you do today?
What did I do today?
I had a podcast with Johnny Rock
and just worked out,
we worked here during the day, that's all.
Me dog.
I'm gonna watch you like a fucking home.
Dude, I tell you the ACDC story.
Talk to me about ACDC.
What's going on?
All right, so yesterday I was on serious radio
for a couple hours, so my phone was off.
And when I came out, one of my best friends,
Billy Rowe from the band Jet Boy,
who had a great record out in the 80s,
he texted me.
and I'll read you the text because it threw me for a loop.
And I still can't believe it.
And a lot of people would know, but this was the text.
He hits me with Breaking News, Brian Johnson,
forced to cancel remaining ACDC shows facing potential permanent hearing loss.
The band is going to make up shows with special guest singer.
So I was like, what?
This can't be real.
I mean, I just saw ACDC three weeks ago.
Brian Johnson killing it at the MGM.
Me and Lucas Hurl, just down there fucking rocking.
Saw ACDC three times this year every time Brian killing it.
So then I got a Rolling Stone.
They announce it.
And boom, that's it.
I go to their website.
That's all it says.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Then I start thinking overnight, I'm like, this sounds kind of funky.
because they only have 10 dates left on the tour.
Why would they even bother with a guest singer after 36 years?
And, you know, why not just blow the dates out?
You're billionaires.
So then I start thinking about it, and I think, wait a minute,
I think like Brian Johnson quit or got fired or something,
and they're just going to carry on.
So today, my buddy says that he heard.
that
I'm going to read it to you.
This is insane.
Brian Johnson quit
or was forced to quit
due to deafness.
Replacement is a guy
named Jimmy Barnes.
This is all
hearsay.
A guy named Jimmy Barnes.
Huge guy from, can you fire that up?
From Australia,
a singer, older dude,
I guess one of old AAC.
This is all.
allegedly, you know, I don't know what's going on, but it's, like, insane to me to think that, like,
at the end of this incredible career ACDCs had, that they would just go, let's put another guy in there
and just keep rolling.
That makes no sense to me.
If your guy, let's say you and I are in a band for 36 years, and then you go, I can't hear
anymore, we did it, you know, and Malcolm's gone.
Phil Ruds out because of the crystal meth
and they're trying to hire someone to kill someone
It's over
It's over and this is the last guy
Just say hey we had a fucking killer run
So it's just blowing my mind
So I did a full podcast today on it
And websites are already like
Talking about potential singers
Because nobody really knows
But from what I'm hearing
It's this Jimmy Barnes guy
It's crazy
All right I went to see Bond with Ted Nugent
I went to a lot of things.
I believe in evolution and stuff like that.
Brian Johnson was great, you know, for me,
but once I got into what I got into, I got into it.
Yeah, it didn't really.
After for those to about the rock, we salute you.
I was pretty much done.
I saluted it, D.C., you know, and I moved on,
and there's some stuff I like.
You know, it's like we spoke with Rudy.
These bands are fucking great right now.
They're at the bed, like you said, 30, six years.
and what, 10 years before that with Angus or with Bond?
Yeah, like 10 years.
You know, that's 46 years of playing together.
You're as tight as can be.
But, you know, I don't know, Brian John, I don't even know.
I don't even know.
And you're right.
At this point, just go away.
Yeah.
Just, just go away.
And when Brian Johnson gets better and he can do three songs,
we'll do a farewell show on TV,
which you guys are billionaires anyway,
who cares?
you know it's like you know they
well how real do you think
the sound loss thing is dean
you mean you play for years well
well my question is
this is all I thought about
and and this is just
because this is my favorite band of all time
in my mind
I was thinking and this is just my insanity
they did the new record
a year ago rock or bust so they
worked on that record a year before so they're two years in
so Brian Johnson
and 67. So maybe he goes in. He goes, look, I'm 65 right now. Let's do this one. Malcolm's out. He's got
dementia. We'll fucking do the baseball stadiums. They sold 2.7 million tickets this year. Only number
two to Taylor Swift. They go, we'll do the baby. That's insane. That's insane. Yeah. How many
dates? Do you know, roughly? I don't know, but it wasn't a lot. And you can look that up.
So then they, I think maybe they have a big meeting. It's like a corporation. He goes, look, we'll just do
this run and it'll be
incredible. We'll go out on top
with a record and a huge
fucking tour. And now
here it is. It's been two years almost
and I think
Angus was like, let's
let's keep going and maybe he went
man, what do he mean? Keep going.
Let's just, you know, because they dropped
these dates out of nowhere last month
and people were surprised like, what are these dates
Hurl and I went?
We were like, this is crazy.
They're playing again. I thought it was over.
You know, so maybe Angus was like, we're going to do more dates all the way through 2017 or something.
And he was like, no, man.
And then maybe they just said, all right, well, you know, we're going to keep going.
I saw a tour that just got announced.
That when I saw it, I didn't really react to it.
But then I thought about it throughout the day.
And I'm like, this could either be a fucking kick-ass show.
Yeah.
Or this could be a bust out.
And I guarantee it's going to be a kick-ass show.
Let me guess the one.
Hit me.
Def Leopard Aria Speedwagon
No
That one, okay
Bad Company
Oh
And Joe Walsh
Oh yeah, right?
Oh, they're playing like the Greek or something
That's gonna be
Oh
Fucking craziness Lee
Like that's like a slow finger in the ass
Like people like ah
But there's some people that I'm going
Oh fuck yeah
Let's go to that
Just bad company alone
If that guy could still pipe it out
Yeah
That guy could still pipe it out
And they could still play like motherfuckers
So just that
alone. Never mind Joe Walsh comes out there and does a few of his jams and then starts doing maybe
somebody shows up, you know, from the Eagles. You never fucking know. James gang stuff.
Something. This could be a dangerous fucking show that you sit there and go, wow. And then they all
play together at the end. That would be sick? No, I'm just saying that they did that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Came out and they just did like feel like making love or an old free song like
fire and water.
Great things are happening in fucking music.
Yeah.
Like, you look at the Hollywood Bowl schedule.
It's phenomenal.
You look at the garden schedule.
It's phenomenal.
There's some great fucking bands.
And there's a lot of stuff I don't know.
But, you know, for you to be, it just adds to somebody.
Today I was into serious.
Chris Cornell's coming back.
Yeah, I saw that.
Now, when is he coming?
I don't know.
They just announced it yesterday.
I saw the dates.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's doing like Santa Barbara Bowl.
That place is great.
You ever go there?
No.
Oh, fuck.
it's so weird you walk up through like a neighborhood like it looks like you're walking up to runyon
canyon and you're about to go hiking and you walk up like a dirt road and you turn behind a guy's
backyard and it's this fucking incredible bowl that's been there since like the 30s or something you
know i saw black crow's oasis there unbelievable i saw my morning jacket there and it is beautiful
you got to look at that thing online man it's a miniature miniature
her Hollywood Bowl, really small and badass.
But that's a great place to see shows, man.
It's worth the drive.
You go out, you see a band, you get a hotel for the night,
and chill in Santa Barbara.
It's funny.
You said you went to Atomic Records yesterday.
Yeah.
And I'm trying to make it my weekly thing.
It's like a hobby for me.
Like 3.30.
I have to pick the baby up at 5.30.
So 3.30 gives me an hour over there.
I'll meet you over there.
And I would get home, you know, whatever,
put the albums away.
and then I sit there and jerk off on the albums
that I bought pretty much, you know?
So once we got to the new studio,
my friend Damon gave me a turntable for Christmas.
So great.
I said, this is the time.
This was my hobby when I was a kid.
It brings me back a little bit.
Even my wife asked me when we walked out of Atomic today.
She goes, I'm surprised you don't go down there
and play more music.
I agree with this peep in the daytime.
You know, nobody in the daytime.
In the building here?
Yeah.
I'd have this on full fucking speed head.
All day long, I'd be down here.
with loud music smoking bones that's your office man this is it this is this is your back-to-basics
office fucking great so i made a list of albums that i really wanted to get and every time i go to
either amoeba anywhere else i couldn't fucking find them yeah and if i did find them they were
fucking off the charts expensive yeah and not and not clean no i went to amazon yesterday
lee and i went to amazon yesterday to find animals from pink floyd they went 79 bucks
You know, it's rare, but it's like, like, new for 80 fucking bucks.
And one part of me wants to pay it, but the other part of me is like, Joey, you bought the sound for $7.95.
I saw one yesterday, man, for $25.
I'll grab it for it.
Where?
At Freak, what's it called?
This is another great record store on Ventura Boulevard in Sherman Oaks.
This place, all their records are phenomenal.
And I've been going there since, like, first of you.
years because they used to have like here it is freak beat records and it's crazy they got animals
in there saw it 25 bucks and i've got two copies of animals because it's so great i don't want to
you know i don't want to wear one out that's my favorite man dogs all that all that whole
album is fucking phenomenal so i just wanted to get back into something i wanted to get back into
something that was real important to me yeah when i was young and i tried to
the picture show called Beyond the Slee,
but it's really tough to pitch a music show.
Yeah.
Because you have to reach out to the writers
and all these companies.
They were telling me about a story
where somebody at CAA got okay to
use somebody's song,
but then when they really went to check,
the song was written by six people.
Yeah.
So it was like a fucking nightmare.
Like, in the courts and petitions,
so I'm like, listen, just stay away from music.
So the only other way we could do,
is on the podcast just to sit with a particular album and whatever you know man i go through music
like you dean every week i got a new mind fuck yeah every week something new inspires me yesterday i'm on
the car i'm on fucking uh magnolia boulevard waiting to go into the coffee shop and outstanding
comes on by the gap band yeah and i don't know shit my pants i haven't heard something that good in
fucking years like just that's real old school black music you think those black motherfuckers worried about
diversity in the Oscars.
They didn't give a fuck.
They were getting their dick suck.
They were smoking weed.
And they were doing what they loved.
They didn't care that they.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Do what you love and that overcomes the racism.
Who gives a fuck?
Another guy going, hey, yeah, when you're on the top, oh no.
You know, it's so great.
This is what I love about doing podcasts.
And sometimes you have an idea of what you're going to talk about and you're going to
something else and it's even stronger than one of the podcast.
The message that you want to, you know,
When I talked to Dean this morning,
we wanted to talk about San Jose and music and the ACDC thing,
which I didn't know that were your favorite band,
so I didn't mean to disrespect them.
No, no.
But you're not disrespect to them.
It's just proper.
There's a point that, you know, like life, music is fucked up
once you get ego involved in money.
Oh.
You know, I bet if you go to every fucking musician
and go, you know, whatever,
you could just go back to the first day of making music.
that feeling of being in the fucking garage, you know.
You know, what's his name's on tour with Peter Gabriel?
Yeah, yeah.
Stingers on tour of Peter Gabriel.
Coming to the Bull.
It's, I want to go there and assassinate Sting.
Like, that's the hatred I've developed him over the years
because you could see his ego leaking out of his pores.
I tried to watch him a few months ago, late-night talk show.
Yeah.
He went up there with a ukulele, you know, and, you know, like,
It's like, can I talk to you for a second?
Just gives these little homo friends that live next to you
and your neighborhood say that's cool.
That ain't cool.
I'm sure up here with a fucking ukulele.
I'll smack me next time.
Fucking uk.
And then he thought, like, he went on tour with it.
You knew about that.
Yeah, smag him with the ghost in the machine.
Like, he's one of those guys.
And he thinks, like, well, I'm going to play something
because my friends tell him.
And actually, some people go up to him.
You know the kind of jerk off that go up to them.
Oh, my God.
That was the most brilliant thing.
I said, no one's not.
I didn't come here to see a ukulele.
I came here to fucking see synchronism.
That's what I came here to fucking hear, okay?
Not know you with a ukulele and three little white dudes that need testosterone shots on two.
I don't need this shit.
And that's why he aggravates me to no end.
To think that at one time, today I picked up one of their albums, but it wasn't the one I won.
I got ghost in the machine.
I want a ghost in the machine and synchronicity.
And the first one, this was something different.
They didn't have what I was looking for.
And it was funny, that's what I thought of.
I go, what a fucking band that I was in love with, and they broke.
my heart. It was like dating a woman that you fucking, listen, man, synchronicity in 84, took me
from one place to another play wrapped around my finger, Lee.
Oh man. That song has always beaten me up emotionally and physically. Like when I hear it, five
other ten times, I'll switch it. The other five times, it's such a beautiful jam, but it's such a
part of such a beautiful album.
It's incredible. It's a fucking incredible.
And I can't find that either. I got to go down
on me, but lift a rock and go for 30
an hour. Come with me, man. Come with me,
this weekend in San Jose. We'll go looking.
Let's just end the fucking aggravation
and we'll just walk away with it. I do it with Marin. We hit
with record stores. Oh, it's a fucking score.
Oh, it'll be great. I got to meet a friend
of mine, Gordon, Friday and Saturday.
But maybe Thursday.
Let me see what happens tomorrow. I got
hit with an audition. Like, this guy's tremendous.
Yeah. This guy's really good.
but I'm not going.
It's a Disney thing for a fucking Mexican sheriff
in a Mexican town that don't look like me.
Hit it, Lee.
Watch this shit.
This is brilliant.
This was something that fucking killed me.
Like, did they break up after this album?
This ain't it, Lee.
It's the police.
Fripped around your finger by the police.
You're killing me.
You know what one kills me?
Walking on the moon.
That one, we played.
Giant steps.
We fucking played down the show once.
I must have got 50 emails.
I was in shock that people had not heard this before.
It's a fucking crazy.
No, it was synchronously their last out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was it.
Yeah, and then they got back together about five years ago,
remember six years ago and did a tour,
and then they imploded again.
MTV was God.
This was just some.
Put on the...
What's the one you said, walking on the moon?
Jesus Christ.
We opened up with that, Lee.
The time we opened up with that,
I must have got no exaggeration the next day, 25 emails.
People going, what album is that on and who was that?
Wow.
And I was in shock.
I was like, you mean to tell me you don't know this piece of history.
There's only four fucking albums, I think, or five albums.
Yeah.
And you don't know this.
This is just a monster.
Oh, on your live version?
No.
See, if they, you got to hit that record version right there.
There's some shoutouts here.
We're going to close up this section here.
First shout out, I want to give up this, Daniel.
Karen,
Corrin, he's the one that
said, you got to bring music back
on the fucking podcast.
I thank you, brother,
because your comment was the one that
pushed me over the top.
My main man,
Ali Baas, Scott
Phillips, Alex Sepate,
Enrique Rivera,
Tim Glob, 710,
Raven Good, Robert Sochi,
Clint Oldie, and Green Cloud.
I love you, motherfuckers.
Thank you for always
supporting this here.
What I wanted to get to
tonight was an album that got released,
on July of 1981, I had gone to see Def Leopard either open up for priest or Iron Maiden.
It was Iron Maiden opened up for priests, but I saw Def Leopard on the on through the night tour.
I didn't see him then.
Okay.
Which was 80.
Right.
Okay.
And then I saw Deft Leopard.
Judas Priest.
No.
Oh.
I saw them open up for ACDC.
Oh, wow.
August 4th.
Seventy-9?
80.
80.
Oh, back in black tour?
Second show, second night.
They opened up in Philadelphia.
Wow.
And the second night was at the Paladium in New York City.
And they were tremendous.
And Angus was, you know, the whole night was tremendous.
I went with Kurt D. Lorenzo.
But I remember going home.
Like, in those days in my world,
you didn't go see the opening act.
Yeah, that's right.
You're correct, they got booed off.
You didn't go see the opening act.
In my world, you didn't go see the opening act.
And in my world, there was actually great opening acts, you know.
The one that they said, everybody said you had to go see was when they said,
go see Black Sabbath, the dudes in front of them, tremendous guitar player.
But the word out was this deaf leopard had opened up for somebody the year before.
And people like, deaf leopids opening up from him, you got to go.
And I went and they played.
made Mirror Mirror.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm going home, and there was no computer in those fucking days Lee.
Yeah.
And they wouldn't tell you afterward.
The name of that song is Mirror Mirror.
It's off the whatever album.
So I had to go and buy the fucking album.
And when I put on this album, it destroyed me, you know, just...
Till this day, when I put on this album,
I think about a certain period in my life.
Because the album came out in July of 81.
I finally picked it up like December of 81.
It came alive.
People were talking about songs.
You'd go to parties.
By February, people were putting this fucking album on.
This album was, and by April and May of that year, when I was a senior in high school,
no matter whose car you went into, they had high and dry.
Yeah, absolutely.
Now, how do we play this league on the turntable, or do we play it on YouTube?
I think you two for better for now.
You do would be better in here, but if you wanted to crank it on that,
I wouldn't blame you.
We should do YouTube.
Yeah.
Let's do YouTube for them, you know.
I don't know if they...
Let's see, let me look at the record.
Let's see the record.
Here, is that here?
That's the most important thing.
So what song do you want to play off of it?
I want to play mirror mirror.
Okay.
Oh, ladies' trains.
Take a look at this album cover.
Oh.
I don't have anybody's here, but the...
The first of all, the most crazy
thing about this record,
incredible album cover the art.
You know, the guy's diving into an empty place.
Cool. But on the back, I believe they're just around 18 and 19 at this era.
So this is the singer. But this was a guy, Pete Willis, who to me was the king of the band.
He played a Hamer Explore, and he was absolutely crushing. You've got Steve Clark, who later died from alcohol.
And then you got Rick Allen, who lost an arm in a crash. This band, crazy curse.
and then you've got the bass player, Savage, Rick Savage,
and then, of course, Joe Elliott.
But this is the original lineup, and they're from Sheffield, England,
and I went to Sheffield one time,
and I couldn't believe it, Sheffield's an old steel town like Detroit.
And all I kept thinking was,
how did this fucking band get out of Sheffield and into America?
It's unbelievable to think.
They're kids, man.
They're fucking kids.
They lived at their mom's houses and shit.
And it's all about the tunes on this.
It's so fucking raw and radical.
And they sound like, you know, they sound unbelievable.
It was way different band than they are later on Pyromania and Hysteria and even now.
This album has always been like a, I don't know, whenever I hear this album, I just think of fun times with my friends.
It's it.
People looking for me stealing.
Yeah.
No worries.
You know, snort and blow.
Fun time with my friends.
No worries.
and this song, this album was, you know, like the fucking, I don't know what to call it,
like the staple for that summer.
It's the high watermark, man.
Yeah, it was.
It really was.
And those Jensen triaxles and a Camaro, that speaker that was out right around this time
with the fucking auto-reverse cassette players finally, it play the whole thing and flip it on
its own, you know what I mean?
It's very funny because July of 82.
I robbed this dude, right?
Yeah.
Whatever's name is, is not important.
The scam was, I used to bring him stolen TVs,
and he always gave me a gram a blow.
Right.
Just one night, we were going to see an Ozzy without Randy Rhodes,
with the other guy from...
Brad Gillis?
With Brad Gillis at the Middlelands.
And I got a Trinitron fan of the box,
and he got all cocky on me.
He said, I'm not giving you the fucking...
I'm not giving you the fucking grandma blow.
So, you know, in typical Joey Diaz style, I got fucking furious.
And I vowed I was going to get this motherfucker.
It took me 10 months to get him.
Yeah.
But I got him.
And even after he fucked me, I'd go over there and buy blow from him and have conversations.
And he was funny.
But I knew eventually I was in the cash in my chip with this guy.
Yeah.
And I finally got him in July of 82.
When did fucking Rick, when did Randy Rhodes die?
He died, I think, in 81.
82.
Look it up.
Yeah, look it up.
Side two you want, shall we?
82 in Florida.
Randy Rose died in 82.
Oh, it's two days is the anniversary.
Wow.
March 10th, yeah.
Wow.
We'll celebrate it up there.
Yeah, man.
So this guy had beat me, and I waited 10 or 11 months to nail this motherfucker.
And one that I nailed this motherfucker on a Friday night with this dude.
the mistake that I nailed this guy with a dude was a rat.
It was too late when I put two into together when I went to give him half the Coke.
And he goes, no, no, no, it's all yours.
I'm never going to say nothing.
I go, God damn it.
Oh, oh.
You know.
I started snort with him, snort with him, snort with him.
And then right away, he had to go home.
He had a curfew.
So that, to make a long story short, we snorted coke that whole weekend.
and my friend that we had out for two nights,
he had to go to summer school that Monday morning.
And he was out with us since Saturday night.
We had him out.
I mean, Saturday straight, 18 years old,
we hooked up on a Saturday night.
I robbed a guy on a Friday.
We stayed at all night until 6th the morning,
drove down to shore and back.
I was in bed by 8 in the afternoon.
I got up at 4, 8 did what I had to do.
I wasn't going to go out.
About 10.30, my little gumbas called me.
And we went out and we stayed out from Saturday, snort and coke all day Sunday to Sunday morning, Monday morning.
This is two nights of snort and Coke and there's still a bucket left of it by Rob from this guy.
And we're selling little deals to people.
Dean, come here.
Yeah.
Dean, you want an eight ball for 250?
Get the fuck out of here.
Eight balls of 300.
Look at the court.
Look what I'm going to do for you.
Yeah, yeah.
What I'm going to do for you, okay?
Remember me, cock's up when you were a junkie, you remember.
Oh, shit, Joey.
So I was just picking up 100.
from friends I knew just to keep us alive for a couple days.
But that Monday morning, he can't go to summer school.
He's already got two misses.
So we got to go see a teacher, I know, Mr. T, and we got to clean this shit up.
So we knock on T's door.
He sees us, he's like, well, you fucking crazy, you're all coked up.
But the moral of story is we're driving.
Tea knew we had blow.
Here we are, 18 years old.
We just graduated in high school.
Tea gets in the car with us.
He does two lines of coke.
And he's like, what the fuck?
going on. I like it.
I love that. I love that. Yeah. Cool woman, cool lies.
You got me hypnotized.
Get ready. Get steady. It's got, I mean, read the songs out to them and tell
it. Great the songs on this hour. Okay. All right. Well, first of all,
that's one of the greatest intros of rock. Let it go, you know. And then it just tells
you the mood. Yeah. It just tells you what you're going to get involved into.
which a lot of people don't fucking do no more.
All right.
The second song is Lady Strange.
Nope, another hit and run.
Another hit and run.
Tremendous again.
Oh, yeah.
Next one, high and dry.
Jesus Joseph and Mary.
Oh, shit.
Then bring it on the heartbreak.
Oh, shit.
The big ballot.
Then switch 625, which is like an instrumental.
And then you go to side two.
You got bringing on the heartbreak, you know.
Oh, there's a remix on it.
Then you got me running.
You got me running.
You got me running.
Remember that one?
Oh.
Just fucking give me the songs.
Then Lady Strange.
I don't want the lip sink.
Lady Strange.
Yeah, yeah.
On through the night.
Mirror, mirror.
Look into my eyes.
Remember that?
Hit it, Lee.
A little mirror mirror.
Yeah.
It's too much.
This jam is too fucking much.
Oh, so good.
I can't tell you how many fucking lines
and eight balls of blow I did to this jam.
Wrote these songs.
No one wrote these songs for.
him. This is an American Idol and shit. These guys were in a garage and slugged out these fucking tunes
that are classics right now that people go crazy over. I mean, you know, that high and dry song,
a band would die to have a tune like that right now. You know, just one of those. And they got
like nine killers on there. There's eight killers on there. Eight killers on there, you know.
And they wrote those at fucking like 17, 18, 19, 20 years old.
It's insane to me.
It's insane.
And the singing, his singing is so great for like 20 years old.
He's not like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, he just sounds incredible.
This is a masterpiece.
Yeah.
And the one afterward, you know, the one before this was great.
Yep.
It wasn't sensational, like, you know, but it was a good album for the first album.
I like wasted.
I love wasted.
But this one here fucked me up completely.
I mean, I fell in love with this album for maybe three, four years.
and whenever I hear different songs
now they never play mirror on the radio
no they always play bringing on the fucking heartache
which drives me crazy I know
Who are the people around them on the back of the
That's just artwork
That's just cousins of yours
Look at them
That's it
It's just you know in those days
Yesterday we were reading about
I called Lee and I told them to Wickpedia
Wish you were here
And I go look at the preparation they put into the packaging
Yeah
Like they put as much, like they were talking about they took pictures to signify the agents that they're greedy.
They sell their soul and they got them whiting on fire on the Warner Brothers lot.
You know, they just, Pink Floyd put as much thought into the fucking album as just to fuck with people.
Turn that around.
You said something.
Oh, yeah.
The guy's going to dive into an empty pool.
Yeah.
You know how many times you look at that and you're like, what does this mean?
Is he getting hung upside down?
Why is he high and fucking dry?
it's this
I mean this kind of artwork right here
I would love to just have in my house
hanging you know
because it's something
it's very
you know
it's almost kind of looks like old
like craftwork kind of artwork
you know
that band craft work
just it's just really crazy
like what is this
which is even cooler
when you're a kid
you're just looking at it going
what does that mean
you know
I was me at 2 in the morning
with you know
on a quailude
with blood
looking at this going while they're looking up
and he's jumping down
and the logo they never
changed the logo it's spectacular
from day one they got a fucking
crushing logo really is
a different world for music
how much thought and
because they wanted you to stop
and buy this that's right
they wanted you to walk by and fucking
buy this and
there had to be a decision of all five members of the
fucking band look at this you know we were
talking about this right here look at
Where do you want me to look?
Read this.
Go all the way down, scroll down to whatever the fuck.
Keep going.
Packaging.
Yes, packaging, you know.
Wish you were here.
Let me get my glasses on.
Oh, wow.
Look at that.
They had the dude.
He went out on tour with him in 74.
Scott Jorgensen.
Storm Thorgensen.
Yep.
Had accompanied the band of the 74 to give him Syrientzotter on the meaning of the lyrics,
eventually deciding that the songs were in general concerned with unfurgeny.
filtered presence rather than Barnett's Barrett's illness.
This theme of absence was reflecting the ideas produced by the long hours spent,
brainstorming with the band.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Cell phone.
Dorgensen had noted that the RoxyMuse's country life was sold in an opaque green cellophane sleeves,
censoring the cover image.
And he copied the idea, concealing the artwork, I wish you were here,
and a black colored shrink wrap,
therefore making the album
are absent.
The concept behind Welcome to the Machine,
and we have it here, with the bag.
That's a killer.
Well, the guys were actually on fire.
So right here, you walk by this,
and you've got a black fucking bag.
That's it.
And the concept was behind a Welcome to the Machine
and have a cigar.
You have the use of a handshake
or often an empty gesture
and gaudy-hardy designed the sticker
containing the album's logo
on two mechanical hands right there.
Fucking genius.
Yeah.
Fucking genius, man.
Mechanical handshake logo
would also appear on the labels of the vinyl
album, this time in black and blue blackout.
The album's cover image was inspired by the
idea that people tend to conceal their true feelings
for the fear of getting burned.
And thus, the two businessmen were pictures shaking hands,
one man on fire.
Getting burned is a common phrase in the music industry,
often used by artists who were denied royalty payments.
two stunt men were used.
I mean, you know, the photograph was taken on the Warner Brothers lot in Los Angeles.
Initially, the wind was blowing the wrong direction.
The flames were forced into Rondell's fight.
He's burning his mustache.
How fucking crazy is this shit?
I know, right?
I didn't even know it was real guys on fire.
Yeah.
I just thought it was done.
Yeah.
This is, guys, this is the thought.
It was a complete different situation.
You know, that's why I think even like when I did the CDs with Lee,
I always fucking thought about something, you know.
I snuck into a church with Felicia took pictures.
You know, this time I fucking walked with my daughter.
Because I wanted the album cover to reflect what I was thinking at that time.
I know who the fuck I was.
And I kind of a joke in a way.
You know what I'm saying?
I am Catholic.
What are you going to do?
But we don't get that no more.
Now all I got to do is go on iTunes, click a thing,
and I got an email saying we took $2.99 out of your fucking account.
And say, LaVie, you don't get a letter, you don't get a picture,
you don't get a handshake, you don't.
get a history behind that joke.
Nope. You don't get who gots.
So it just shows you
why sometimes these musicians get pissed
about their money because they put a lot of extra
working to this, which, like New Wave
are probably charging them
hundreds of thousands.
Like the guy designed that logo.
What do you think they charged that have left to design
that logo?
10,000.
Yeah. Yeah.
10,000? Sure, mate.
Yeah.
You know, they weren't rich, but they thought they were
going to get rich. Yep.
and the logo lasted for fucking ever.
Oh, yeah.
I had the guy on
that wrote this ACDC book called
The Brothers Young,
the guys that built ACDC.
And there was just a guy who worked at Atlantic,
like an intern or something in the art department,
that drew their logo.
And he didn't get any money.
He was just an intern.
An ACDC has been using that logo.
for fucking 50 years on shirts and garbage cans and bumper stickers and lighters and fucking beers and everything.
That fucking logo, you know, they got it free.
It's crazy, right?
Just, I don't know where the artwork and music went.
Yeah.
And it's something that people have heard me talk about before, but it still baffles me because it's such a, this is what the music is.
Go in there.
You know, when I look at a picture, I just look at a picture.
And this with music, they made you look at the picture and then go in it.
Let's go in the picture and get the album, and let's play it the other room, you know,
because we don't want my mom to hear it.
You know, it's just a big part of my life.
I wish we could find the way to do a show.
We could do this on a weekly basis without the fear of getting sued or fucking getting hung by our balls
because I think that this is missing from a lot of people's lives.
You know, this could put your life together.
If you're on blow and you get out of rehab and you go, you know what,
what did I do as a child?
I had 300 albums.
What did I do?
I don't put 10 bucks when I got out on coke.
Let me go build my thing up again and make little notes.
And as stupid as it is, it just you like music anyway.
I like music, man.
You want to throw me in jail?
Throw me in jail.
You want to really fuck me up, take away my music.
Yeah.
What about local access?
Can you do it there or no?
What?
Play music.
I don't know.
I got to find that.
That's why I love doing this podcast with you
because it's like
there's very few people
that I can really,
really fucking talk to music about.
It's like you,
Marin, Burr,
we all love music.
And we're just fucking,
I think it's the era
we just grew up in.
It just ran parallel
with our insanity.
Give me a favor.
Missing persons,
mental hopscots.
The other day I'm scrolling
And I see this on YouTube
Oh yeah
And all of a sudden is like getting smacked
In the fucking face
Mental Hops
Missing persons in an album
Called Destination M
Whatever the fuck it was
But before they released Destination M
They did what everybody else did in the business
They released an EP
And on that EP was a song called Mental Hops guys
That to me was one of their best songs
She couldn't sing in real life
She couldn't do fucking dick
Dale Bozio.
Yeah, now that you look,
the husband can play the shit out of the drum.
Crusher.
But after I was watching Bozio,
I started, I got hooked on,
you know, Frank's garage
and all the Frank Zappa stuff.
And then after, this was on the plane.
And then after Zappa,
I got hooked on something else
that was so obscure.
Again, I hadn't heard in years,
but you don't have enough time
to listen to music.
That's the problem.
I don't have, with the child and the podcast,
you know, listen to music.
You have to put the out of mind.
roll a joint put the earphones on bang it and you need an hour and a half at least one day a fucking you know one hour
I love all that shit but I live on 15 minutes play this shit we listen to this shit
every once in a while you got to go off the deep end and just talk music man like I said people
should do this more we just don't have the time about a lot of people don't even love this shit
you know you got to really be into this shit we don't know what the fuck we're talking about
he's looking at me all scared I get the most tweets when I'm
I do this show.
Sure.
Because we talk about music and they're just like, man, I love when you guys talk about music.
I mean, the Twitter is on fire over it.
I picked up an album today by mistake that I did not go to the store even looking for.
Marin, when I shot Marin a couple of weeks ago, he told me he went out on a Saturday,
and he picked a sister up to this album, which is Cars Candy O.
Oh, God, yeah.
Which is brilliant.
Yeah, that's another 82, 81 type of album.
Crush.
No, 79.
Yeah.
79, but my freshman year in high school,
an album came out that was fucking just superb.
Fucking superb.
Oh, oh, the cars, dude.
Unbelievable that band.
There you go.
Oh.
Their fucking first album.
Like, listen, man, it was Ted Nugent.
It was Black Sabbath.
It was ACDC.
It was all this stuff.
And at the same time, I'm getting into this,
let me get that album, come over there.
At the same time, I'm getting into this,
a buddy of mine gives me a,
what the fuck did he give me?
He gave me like one of this albums.
Yeah.
And he's like, yeah, I'll listen to this.
And at first, I didn't know what the fuck they were talking about.
Yeah.
And I'll tell you, I think the biggest one,
I don't know if it's the biggest,
mistake they made or who the fucking mind you're talking about people mistakes.
