The Comedy Cellar: Live from the Table - Ann Coulter, Bill Schulz, Kevin Brennan, Wil Sylvince, and Harry Enten
Episode Date: May 11, 2017Ann Coulter is a conservative political pundit, columnist, and author of 12 best-selling books. Bill Schulz is an American journalist and TV personality. Kevin Brennan is a standup comedian and host... of the "Misery Loves Company" podcast. He may be seen performing regularly at the Comedy Cellar. Wil Sylvince is a standup comedian and host of the Comedy Cellar's weekly "New Joke Night." He may be seen performing regularly at the Comedy Cellar. Harry Enten is a senior political writer and analyst for Fivethirtyeight.com.
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You're listening to The Comedy Cellar, live from the table on the Riotcast Network, riotcast.com.
Good evening, everybody. Welcome to The Comedy Cellar show here on Sirius XM Channel 99.
This is The Comedy Cellar radio show, and normally we do this at the back table of The Comedy Cellar,
but this is a special edition and we have some very important guests we have a comedy
seller hero someone we actually is absolutely adored and admired here miss ann coulter is here
and we're very very happy she came down especially at a time when you must be in a lot of demand with
everything going on yes berkeley's demanding to have me back through berkeley uh Bill Schultz of red-eye fame and an entrepreneur magazine
yes which I'm doing a profile of you on within the next two weeks and it's going
to win us both a lot of awards a P body I know I pulled sir mm-hmm by the way
it's a little sick right now so she came for you know oh thank you so much love
in this room 538 calm mrcom, Mr. Harry Enten.
Are you old enough now that we can stop calling you a whiz kid?
I think I've been old enough for a number of years now,
but they decided to call me that, and who am I to?
You look 12.
I do look 12, and I was just showing everyone my high school ID,
which I still hold on to.
And representing the comedy community.
Actually, Kevin Brennan's coming later as well.
But representing the comedy community,
Mr. Will Silvins. What's going on?
So,
welcome everybody.
Let's get right to it, Ann, because it's
the biggest story. When I was
in college,
there's two real memories
I have of,
and I don't remember much from college.
I don't think most people do.
I don't remember learning many things.
It was yesterday for me, but keep going.
But I remember an intense debate where the liberals felt
that the KKK ought to be able to march in Skokie, Illinois,
and they were proud.
And I also remember Mayor Kahana,
the kind of, now they call him a racist Jew,
coming to speak to us.
And even though I didn't agree with much of it,
it was one of the most stimulating lectures I ever went to
because I had to grapple with what I was hearing
in a way that I wouldn't have had to otherwise.
And to this day,
things that he said in that lecture still come to my mind
as I'm thinking about those issues.
Fast forward to 2017, they won't even let you make a speech.
So go ahead, tell us a little bit of the story.
Right, well, I was invited to give a speech by college Republicans and also a nonpartisan group
who just sponsored debate.
So the first half of the debate was given.
It was the second half.
I was never allowed to give a week later because at Berkeley,
the administration and the police are allowing thugs to come in and smash windows and bust the
place up whenever a conservative is speaking. As for the outrageousness of my speech, it was
on immigration, the topic of my second to last New York Times bestseller. And my argument was
going to be that federal laws developed over many generations
by Republicans and Democrats should be enforced.
That was the gist of it.
That's the hate speech.
And what is the accusation?
I tried to look up.
I was Googling Ann Coulter hate speech.
What did she say?
What has she said?
And I have some examples.
I could read them, but what do you think is like, what do you think is the worst thing?
Like, what do they always tar you with?
For a long time, it was invented quotes that I never said.
After the Time magazine cover story, I told the guy, because he was a reporter writing about it.
He was reading these quotes to me.
And I said, I never said that.
I never said that.
You can look it up.
And he did. He recalled his Time magazine, and he ordered the transcripts from TV interviews from years ago.
And these quotes that would go around, and Media Matters would send around, and angry people would call into radio shows, and you said, blah, blah, blah.
So almost all of those were untrue.
So now they have to go on jokes, which they then rewrite as if, you know, through a computer program, translate into German and then back into Russian.
And then it comes out just unrecognizable as what the joke was.
And that's that's usually what it is. That's called the, quote, hate speech.
Look, I think this is why we like you at the comedy.
So because some of your jokes are pretty tough, but they're exactly the kind of jokes that the comedians tell at the table in the cell.
Like you said about the gold star dad,
like, oh, now all we need is a Muslim
with a thick accent like Fareed Zakaria. That's
exactly what Colin Quinn
or somebody like that. Go ahead.
Oh, so no, I was
just about to add to what you were
saying. Like any comedian that gets to know her
loves her.
They could disagree with her all they want.
They love what comes out of her mouth.
They love that she has no fear.
And that's any good comedian.
So it doesn't matter like what side of the political spectrum you're on.
Any good comedian worth their salt, once they meet Ann Coulter, loves her.
Yeah, it's true.
And love her.
Also, if you're telling jokes, I mean, you have to be taking risks.
And it's funny.
You can look back on YouTube right now.
You might remember this.
I didn't see it at the time, but that Martin Mull, from New Canaan, by the way,
used to do this show, Fernwood.
And you look up the things he used to say.
They're hilariously funny.
There was one all on stereotyping.
And it's like a professor.
You need to see it. But it's just going through one ethnic stereotype after another being discussed
as if, you know, it's being discussed very seriously. And you could not do that today.
I mean, even five or 10 years ago, some of the humor you see couldn't be done today.
You can't do it. It's, I mean, the whole culture is moving in a very bad direction. I mean, I think it's more serious than people are giving credit for
because they really are moving towards a kind of totally becoming untethered
from the values which made us successful.
I mean, it's Charles Murray.
Charles Murray.
I know.
I mean, this is an important intellect,
and he also wrote a book, which is very controversial.
The bell curve.
The bell curve, which touched on some topics that can be badly misused by racists.
But he should be able to speak and defend himself, you know?
Right.
Will, you have anything?
I think when you start to censor people,
you don't get a true idea of what they're trying to talk about.
So I'm all in favor of just speaking,
regardless of what you're talking about.
It's been good for comedians.
I've noticed here at Comedy Cellar,
you in particular, you're totally hilarious, Will.
Thank you.
And the first time I saw you, I hadn't been here for like a year. I was writing a book or something.
And now you've had to expand. You have to go to the village underground around the street,
both places in basements. And the first time, I'm pretty sure it was the first time I saw you,
for 90 minutes, every single joke was an ethnic joke or a sexual joke. There was only like 10 minutes on some guy talking about his penis. Other than that, every comedian.
It was a minute and an inch.
And they'd all begin by saying,
you know, any Chinese here,
you're not going to like the next few minutes.
And one after another, they kept doing that.
Where can you go and people could just talk,
like how they stop you from doing your speech
maybe you should do in the standout so you could do at the comedy club you know i'm saying it's
getting to that point that the basement of the comedy cellar is the only place i'll be it's like
we're in the old soviet union let's all go to a basement where we can tell ethnic jokes but two
more things and i'm gonna open it up do you think that really this is just fun for them,
for the students and all the protesting,
like all the fake, what did Philip Roth who read that thing,
the ecstasy of sanctimony?
Yes.
Or as I was calling them, indignogasms.
Yes, I like that.
So indignant is an indignogasm.
Yeah, it's just this rapturous feeling of indignation.
And let's be honest, it is a nice feeling.
Like, we've all been indignant at times.
And it is, the pleasure centers of the brains are triggered.
And kids are even more prone to it.
But do they even really care?
Or is this just a fun thing to all jump aboard and protest and culture?
None of them have probably any idea what you've ever said, right?
Well, most of them, probably any idea what you've ever said right well most of them i think were not students i think the bigger problem the serious
problem is is the administrators they are actually with the armed thugs who are masked up suited
wearing masks and they can only operate in a mob most of the arrests they were like public school
teachers they're they're local government officials and and what happened was i mean the nineteen sixties when that the free
speech movement that was
free speech for communists and the communist took over the universities and
now i'll no more free speech
i'm i'm annoyed at my allies though i've been told i should stop attacking my
allies attack they're the ones who backs down we were about to get a court order
uh...
for a court ordering
berkeley to provide me with a proper venue on the police to do their effing
jobs
uh... and they wouldn't file for the
t r o it's called in the law
thomas alexander yes why
uh... they just back down they got cowardly they're out of washington
uh... and that then i was just a i i had no options i found another lawyer so the
college republicans could file it.
They forbade the college Republicans from filing for it.
And unless the judge was Howard Dean, we were going to win a court.
I mean, even in the Ninth Circuit, a judge who hated me,
he wouldn't be able to look at his colleagues in the eye.
These were open, ostentatious violations of the Second Amendment,
or sorry, First Amendment.
And unlike many other rulings that i think are clear
there there this has been going on for fifty years the court saying you can't
demand more money for one group
than another for permit you can't have special requirements
and they are a put a whole slew of special requirements on my speech had to
be during the day could only be students they wouldn't give us the venue at the
last minute
and my my allies gaff based in washington they kept saying well we should just pull out right now this is a violation
of the first amendment we'll issue a sternly worded press release and i kept saying no no no i want to
give my speech agree to everything i'll do it i'll do it i'll do it i would request that they take a
few measures of their own like not telling the police to step down. But no, just keep agreeing.
And then I agreed to everything and they just canceled anyway.
Wow, the court system is not working for you.
How does that feel?
Well, it would have.
I think it would have.
They didn't that.
I mean, she's white.
Of course it would have.
No, this is in fact, this is why I've always wanted to replace Martin Luther King Day with Thurgood Marshall.
Thurgood Marshall was the one. I mean, that's how you vindicate constitutional rights in this country you go to court this is a
constitutional right you go to court
and that's why they're good marshall never really liked martin luther king
is that true him
i didn't know that that was mob action he said they're sending in a boy to do a
man's job but that's why i admire
very good marshall and that's why he sat on the supreme court because he'd just
kept saying no i'm sorry you have a constitution taking it to court
it wasn't
i mean martin luther king brought attention to it was important but
i wanted to be thorough good marshall and and when a court ruling
so you know i graduated from college relatively recently and i i i i don't
think that it's that they just want the attention i honestly believe
that students these days are not comfortable hearing other students or
other points of view that don't agree with their own so
uh... the dartmouth which is the uh... school newspaper up there recently
conducted a survey in which they said how comfortable would you be having a
roommate with political views different than your own
and indeed democrats only thirty nine 39% said they would be comfortable
while 45% of
Democrats said they would be uncomfortable.
That means that more Democrats
at Dartmouth College felt uncomfortable
sharing a room with someone
who had different views than their own. And that's so different
than my college experience.
This was my college year,
the final year, these were my roommates.
I had someone who was of Persian origin from Kansas this was my college year the the final year these were my roommates i had
someone who is a persian origin from kansas city who was one most liberal
democrats i've ever seen
at a white guy from minnesota who was a democrat but not all that level
and then i had an asian guy from
manhattan kansas
who was one of the few republicans in my class
and we all got together and everything worked out well and everything was fine
and dandy but apparently these days these students just don't want to hear it.
Diversity of ideas is important to understand the worldview so that you don't live in your bubble.
And it just seems today, poof, it's gone.
It's very dangerous.
Yeah.
And the smear, the smear.
I see it related, and I have no idea how you feel about Bill O'Reilly, but I see it related to that in the sense.
Long silences on this side of the table
I had a feeling
but you know
it shouldn't
not for the reasons
that are attacking him
I just think
he's a pompous blowhard
right
so
so
you know
I
when he got fired
I went
and I read
the Andrea Macris complaint
oh that's fun reading
and it is the most
ridiculous thing
this is this is exactly what it
says. And nobody knows this.
And believe me, you would know this if this was the one
he'd have brought her a complaint.
2002, she went to work for Fox News.
Immediately,
he started saying inappropriate things
to her, told her to get a vibrator, told her she
needed to get laid, blah, blah, blah. Two years it went
on. She didn't record this.
She didn't record it, no. She did record it.
At some point,
she started recording.
The falafel.
So is it out there?
We can hear it?
No, later on.
So then she left in 2004
and went to work for CNN.
Three months later,
she contacts Bill O'Reilly.
She says, you know,
I'd come back to work for you
if you just match,
just match the same pay
I had at CNN.
He says, okay, let's meet for dinner and talk about it.
Problematic.
They meet in a hotel restaurant.
She describes his tone as strange, alarming, and paranoid, I think.
But they work it out.
And then he says, you don't have room upstairs.
There's an election night.
You want to come up and watch the returns?
She goes.
Then nothing happened. Then a few days later, he says, listen, I want to come up and watch the returns? She goes. Then nothing happened.
Then a few days later, he says, listen, I spoke to whoever it is at Fox,
and they can't match your salary.
I'll make up the difference.
Wow.
So she went back to work for the guy who had been harassing her,
knowing he's paying money out of his pocket through his radio show.
For the same money she was working at CNN, working for CNN,
she gets a tape recorder, records him,
and ruins his life. Right, but makes a
lot of money. Okay, but she did
record things.
Now, that's a
good point. He tried to trap her.
There's no good people in these storylines.
But he tried to trap her with the woman upstairs.
You're not going to find a good guy and a bad guy
in this.
There's a lot of middle ground here. This sounds to me like she went back to set him up.
Oh, yeah.
Well, okay.
You're not wrong.
Set him up for what?
For being who he is?
Well, okay.
And there's that, too.
That's who he is.
It's not like she took him out of his character and said,
Hey, what do you think about these titties?
I'm like, oh, my God.
That's dirtier than anything he's said.
By the way, Will was looking at me when he said that, and I feel harassed.
I hope we're recording this.
Now, let me put it in perspective.
I looked up the average recovery for loss of a limb in New York State, $230,000.
Listen to Bill Reilly whack off $9 million.
$9 million. What do you mean whack off 9 million dollars 9 million dollars
what do you mean whack off
and
she recorded him
jerking off on the phone
yes
oh yes
he whacked off
on the phone
or simulated
all the money he got
he got to do that on the phone
yeah
the shit that I do
yeah
be glad that you don't have to
pay 13 million dollars
to people
I wish I
I wish I
so now what happens
is the Times writes a story
about that
and something that wasn't sexual
and some other cases. All
allegations and
allegations become, I mean
this was another value that we had is that when you
settle something, that's not evidence of
guilt. Right. That's gone.
We short circuited that. Nine million
I'd say is kind of evidence, but the other
ones I agree with. No, I'll tell you
why not. And guilt of what?
If you got tons of money like that and Fox has...
Right.
I think Fox probably is the one that paid, but whatever it is...
No, he paid.
He paid out of his pocket?
He makes a lot of money.
Is that not worth it so your children don't have to hear that tape recording?
I think the most interesting thing about both the lawsuits against Ailes and O'Reilly,
and I have not looked into the details the way
Bill here has, but...
Oh, I'm obsessed.
But I will say, it's striking
to me that all of the girls, whatever
whether, however extreme the harassment
is or isn't, whether you agree or disagree,
they were all cool with it as long as they
were still on air. It wasn't
until they got
fired. And they were the weakest of the Fox.
I have to say this.
I mean, it sounds ugly,
but I know we all know
who these personalities were.
Yes.
None of them were strong personalities.
Well, no.
I mean, he was using his show
to pick up dates.
I mean, I think the people
who have a legitimate lawsuit
against Bill O'Reilly
are his viewers.
And they should have fired him
10 years ago.
I think we know where Ann stands.
We're living in a smear culture
where perception becomes reality.
You're a hate monger.
Bill O'Reilly's,
and it's all,
and it doesn't matter
because the people in charge,
whether it's the advertisers
or the networks
or the universities
are ready to take drastic action
just on the impression that's out there.
Right.
Whether it's true or not.
They don't even have to investigate it.
It doesn't need to be true.
And that's, I think, spreading everywhere.
I'm joined by Kevin Brennan, by the way.
Thank you very much.
You have anything you want to say, Kevin, about this?
Nothing so far.
And listen.
But, Noam, you bring up a great point.
There are no good guys in this.
No.
If you want to go across the board, there are no good guys.
Having said that, and exactly everything you said, I cannot argue with at all.
I think the good guys are the women who brought them down.
They are.
You are right.
Why not?
Hold on.
You said they should not have reported it?
They should have reported it to the boss.
Yeah, but how do you know they weren't?
How do you know at that point when they did?
Dude, these guys are so powerful.
They're like, come on, get back to work.
Agreed.
What about Juliette Huddy?
They needed a library of evidence to bring them down.
Huddy was Roger Ailes' goddaughter.
Yes.
She could not report the fact that Bill O'Reilly was harassing her to Roger Ailes, to her godfather.
She was afraid of retribution.
No, it doesn't all hold water. No, it's a payday for a lot of them. Riley was harassing her to Roger Ailes to her godfather? She was afraid of retribution? No.
It doesn't all work. No, it's a payday for a lot of it.
You have no idea what the relationship is. Just because
the title godfather is
in there doesn't mean they
coochie crunch.
Fair enough, Will.
Is that a serial coochie crunch?
Go ahead.
You want to say something? I thought that was the name of this podcast.
Is that Coochie Crunch?
These women, they weren't hired for their journalism.
They were hired for their looks.
I mean, there was like eye candy.
All the Fox.
Nats.
All the Fox.
He worked at Fox.
He knows that.
I know.
I recognize him.
Anyway, I'd be on the treadmill watching Fox News and just four hot women with their legs
crossed.
I mean, they weren't hot.
They didn't come from Harvard Journalism School.
No, they did not.
Have you seen the first post-Roger Ailes show
that they've aired with Eric Bolling in the afternoon?
It's horrible, horrible.
They bring up a lot of names that are going to bite my lip on right now.
Wait, there's a show.
There's a new show that replaced The Five, which is now at nine.
The girl that was on with Gutfeld, she was like the blonde Andy Levy.
Once you left, I never watched it.
Can I talk about bowling?
If you guys are friends, you can shut me up.
He seems like a total empty suit to me.
Go ahead.
Well, I just want to say I'm not a fan of that program, unless, of course, they have me on,
in which case I'm a huge fan of that particular program look sound like my cousin well if your cousin's a nice guy or gal
well there you go well all the more power um i i would just say a few things uh number one
look i don't know who to believe or not to believe but my general viewpoint is if i work with someone
i don't have a phone conversation with them
in which I am telling them about my masturbation practices.
I think that's a good call.
And I just think it's incredibly stupid.
I don't know.
You call up the people that you work with
despite the fact that you're married
and you tell them, oh my God, right now I'm watching the greatest...
Don't answer that, Norm. Don't answer that.
I'm right now...
You're not under oath. You're not under oath.
Fuck that. I don't know. You want a total honest answer to that? You're on under oath. You're not under oath. Fuck that. I don't know.
You want a total honest answer to that?
You're on Pornhub.com right now.
You're watching the lesbian scene from blah, blah, blah.
No, I'm about to give a total honest answer.
Listen, the moral of this story is be a mensch.
Of course.
That's really good O'Reilly's problem because in my career, I've been doing this since I was in my early 20s.
You made a man. I've been doing this since I was in my early 20s. You made these calls. I slept with probably a dozen people I worked with,
and I've been turned down by probably three times that real.
Actually, probably half that.
But anyway, and never once, never once did I ever have any bad feeling,
any friction, I mean, you know, nothing.
So that's just how you act.
I love the fact that you said this because, as she knows,
I was not a good guy at Fox News.
Yes, you were.
Well, thank you.
But, like, I wasn't a good guy
in the sense that, I mean,
it's not like I was a monk.
But, at the very least,
I always got, like, I always,
I never harassed.
You're not a creep.
Yeah, anyone I dated
or did anything else with.
Yeah, but he's not Bill O'Reilly.
They allowed me to date.
Bill O'Reilly.
And she knows the people I dated.
And exactly what you're saying, what a lot of the higher-ups did is it's hard to defend.
You saw it happening?
Without a doubt from the beginning.
My non-disclosure agreement only goes so far.
Now that Ailes is out and now O'Reilly,
I can confirm
what I saw from the beginning.
She never actually worked for Fox News.
She was on all the time.
I know the makeup artist.
I'm the one that had to sign off.
You knew from the beginning that O'Reilly was a predator.
Hair and makeup.
Except I don't think it was so much
that he was a predator. The girls were happy
to date him. A lot of the girls suing
dated him.
What I'm saying is
a lot of the girls who are on Fox News
are very pretty, but they actually are smart.
But on O'Reilly's show, he wasn't interviewing Heather MacDonald, Maggie Haberman.
Did anyone think he was using his show as anything?
I mean, once in a while, he'd have a smart guess.
But by and large, it was so obvious to anyone who tuned in, he's using his TV show to date girls.
It would be as if your comedians all were really hot, but weren't necessarily funny.
We'd all get kind of suspicious.
And then even if you did nothing with them, if some of them taped you.
Unbelievably well said.
If you were to go down even two, three years ago, if there was a regular on O'Reilly's show,
and you're like, she doesn't bring much to the table, do the math.
If she doesn't bring much to the table, but she keeps going on, do the math.
I know.
I never.
I used to see these kind of like subpar blondes on O'Reilly.
But I never heard of him.
We'll just give you that little bit.
No, but his audience was all white men.
So what do all white men want to hear O'Reilly?
And then they want to look at some hot young girls.
That's what they want.
That's what I want.
You like Spanish girls, too?
Yeah.
So they had some black girls for me.
Did you finish your point, Harry?
I know we kind of interrupted you.
To be perfectly honest, I'm not willing to divulge what type of women I like on the air.
Sounds like we're using women in quotes.
I got a question for 538, and I'm sure Ann wants to chime in.
Comey, did he swing the election
for Hillary? Okay, this is a
complex question, because I
believe that it's multifaceted.
Number one, Hillary Clinton should never have
been in the position that she was in, facing
a candidate who was as unpopular
as Donald Trump, so that any
last-minute October surprise could
swing the election. She simply should not have been.
I mean, pretty much any other candidate on the Democratic side could have beat Donald
Trump, except apparently for Hillary Clinton.
That being said, I think it is an unescapable fact that when James Comey came out, or that
was the email that was released through Jason Chavitt, so on and so forth, we did see Hillary
Clinton's poll numbers drop overnight.
In fact, two of the largest drops that she had during the campaign were immediately following
like the three or four days following.
And those drops were significant enough, given the tightness of the election, to cause Clinton
to lose in states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
And if she had won those three states, she obviously would have won the election.
So the answer to that is yes, but it's one of many factors in a tight election.
A lot of different things could have shifted.
If she had had the black turnout that Barack Obama had had, she would have probably won those three states.
So yes, but put a little asterisk around it.
Well, it's just everybody only remembers the we're reopening it announcement.
But technically twice he said things that helped her.
Only once did he say.
So first he clears her.
Then he says we've reopened the investigation.
Then he says we've closed the investigation.
Maybe he should have just kept his mouth shut.
But I just want to point out that people only talk about the one in the middle.
Well, I and I will say this much, about
that much. Number one,
although he definitely cleared her in July,
he had some negative things to
say about her, and her poll numbers did in fact
drop after that particular press conference.
It wasn't the most flattering picture that he had painted
of her, because she did something that was
very stupid. I thought that was intentional
on his part. I felt like he was like,
listen, i'm not
going to indict her but i but this is a political question so let me make sure the political world
understands exactly what she did so they can make the best i think she's gonna lose anyway
correct and and the one thing i will point out look Donald Trump had a very rough October as
well i mean i mean that's those debates, performances, even even be exactly people who supported him would agree that those debate performances were on par with some of the worst I've ever seen.
Yeah. And yet it didn't see, you know, despite that, despite the fact that you had the Access Hollywood tape come out, he managed to stick around.
He managed to stick around and make it so that this was going to be a tight election either way.
Even if Comey doesn't come out and say what he
says, Hillary Clinton's
still barely going to beat Donald Trump.
Which is, I think,
stunning. I think she was going to lose
anyway whether Comey came out. I have another observation.
You tell me what you think of it. Because there was
a bunch of closet
Trumpers, closet
racists, closet
people who really don't know what they want to do,
or closet people who are not ready for a female president.
Oh, Will.
They couldn't publicly say...
Are you just tossing fastballs so I can hit them out of the park?
Because they couldn't publicly say this
because whether their family or their jobs or their friends
would freaking attack know attack him you
know he really believes this and and it's it's no you really do believe that
the whole Trump thing is about racist and I mentioned a bunch of things not
just and go ahead but I do think he's right that a lot of people wouldn't
admit they supported Trump I mean yes the great thing, there are many downsides to being Ann Coulter.
One of the upsides is wherever I am, any right winger in the room will make himself known to me.
And it is shocking how many secret right wingers there are in places you would not expect them.
That's absolutely true.
When my Puerto Rican wife was watching, she goes, you know, I think I'm supporting Trump.
I remember like, I think he might win.
Don't tell anybody.
Don't tell my family.
Even the hood.
Even the hood.
A lot of people in the hood supported Trump secretly.
And they, it is what it is.
It's like, you know, for all, I'm not, you keep saying, I'm saying the race thing.
It's a bunch of different things.
I'm going to dispel the racial notion.
I think Ann will agree with me.
No, but I think he's saying that they don't want to be accused of being racist.
Yeah, but he's saying, let me tell you why the racist vote is not why Trump won.
And I think this is...
It's part of the freaking pie, dude.
It's in the cake.
It's a mix.
I'm going to prove to you why I think it's not, or at least not over previous elections.
If you're a racist and you are not sufficiently motivated to go out and vote against Barack Obama,
against a black man to become president, if your racist dick wasn't at full erect,
how much more did voting for Donald Trump get you going?
Can I explain that? I assume that
Can I explain that?
I assume that 100% of the racists
Went out and voted against the black president
Because
You know what Trump's
No pun intended
You know what Trump's racism?
What?
Money
When your money ain't right
You can't go on hating
You gotta pay your bills
You gotta eat
So I can't freaking hate
I gotta go freaking I don't have no job.
I got no work. Freaking Bush left us
in such a dire state.
I let you talk. I want to move
on to another thing.
Oh, now it's getting real.
You got to shut it down because you ain't got no explanation
for this shit. Harry, go ahead.
Throw the race card at him, Will, for
cutting you off. Oh, because I'm black?
Is that what it is?
Go ahead, Harry.
I don't know what I've jumped into here,
but I'm going to come with some numbers and some facts.
Go ahead, Will.
We do know from studies that, in fact,
voting for Trump was correlated with higher levels of racism and sexism
than it was for voting for Mitt Romney.
That is an undeniable fact.
Tell no one. You look at me, tell no one.
From servants.
But I think that it would be foolish to believe that most of the people who changed their mind,
and there were many of them who voted for Barack Obama in 2012,
and then voted for Donald Trump in 2016,
in states like Wisconsin, in states like michigan and states like pennsylvania
racist voters
i think at the end of the day barack obama was able to thread the needle and
strike more of a populist tone speak more about the economy in a way that
agreed with these people's views on the economy than hillary clinton ever did
who was seen as a corporate lackey
and she never did anything in her campaign or at least not enough to dispel that notion.
And for goodness sake, what are you doing giving speeches to Goldman Sachs before you
run for president?
You give them to Goldman Sachs after you run for president, like Barack Obama does.
I have a theory that WikiLeaks helped her.
For people like me, when I heard that she was actually not really this left-wing crazy, but that she
was just kind of pretending to be, but actually
in private she was more moderate,
I was more ready to vote for her.
Oh, that's funny.
I like Wiki Hillary.
This business about studies showing
that racists were more likely
to vote for Trump. At least what
maybe you have better poll questions
of that, but I would like to see how the question of racism is determined, because at least the polls shown on MSNBC,
one of the questions determining racism was, do you think, who has more criminal propensities
in the black community or white community? Well, I'm sorry, we can look at, that's just, who's willing to lie more?
Perhaps.
If that's what your question is, determining racism.
So Republicans are slightly less likely to lie.
I mean, that perhaps would be so.
And there are certainly Democrats who are racist as well.
We know that from surveys going back for a while,
although I have not delved into the new numbers to see the exact differences
uh... between democrats and republicans on this battery of questions one of
which may be the question that you mentioned
another of which may be
do you like living in neighborhoods you know where the do you feel comfortable
living in neighborhoods where there are black people questions like that
you know they're not gonna flat out ask
a by the way the elect yet like black people are now
you know most people are figure that one out or do you want a black president
not there these battery of questions that they ask and they're certainly not
perfect
but aggregated together I do think that they give you an image of what's going
on
and the fact that we saw a much higher correlation with the vote and those
questions
in this election them say we saw in 2012 makes me less likely to
dismiss them but again i just go back to the point overall most of the people who voted for donald
trump were not racist at least not in the way that we commonly understand that word we don't know that
as a fact all right can i make one more observation about call me assuming uh you know he's very tall
this is this big uh in in the last days, people have been really trying to figure out whether what he did was justifiable or not.
And it becomes difficult to do it because it's hard to keep out of your mind what you know in retrospect.
That it turned out to be nothing.
That they were able to go through the emails in time.
That they actually could have given us an answer.
All these kind of things.
And I go back and forth on it too.
But in that electrical circuit
that had to be completed for this all to
blow up against Hillary,
there's Comey's
actions which are quite debatable.
I mean, he was in a position and
maybe he made the wrong call and maybe he made the wrong call
maybe he had the right call
but there was another part of that circuit
which also if it hadn't happened
the circuit would not have been
which was Bill Clinton's decision
to go on that airplane
and speak to the Attorney General
and without that
the whole thing
and there's no debating that
that was clearly 100%
nobody can defend it
and that is the unambiguous
thing in that circuit, which should not have
happened. So he is to blame.
Call me, who knows?
And without that, call me when I'm in that situation.
I just think Harry's right about this. All these things,
I mean, if we didn't know the results
of the election, and you think of the Access
Hollywood tape,
and still that guy
on the Access Hollywood tape. And still, that guy on the Access Hollywood tape won
those unbelievably bad
debate performances. I mean, I thought
it was the, I didn't think it was over with the Access
Hollywood tape. I thought it was over with the first debate
and not my way. And
I just think we are people
who care about the Comey letter or even know about the
Comey letter or the Bill Clinton thing.
I think her not going to Wisconsin and
calling most Americansicans are half of
americans deplorable zand she's just so stiff and i know i think it was her
we get the numbers that republicans lie less
i'm saying that i don't believe polls that that determine uh... poll questions
are determining
all these races out there that get that you can say i don't raise a spot for
trial she can do it on the basis of questions like, are blacks more criminal than whites?
Well, and I got to say, like about, I would say three to four months before the election,
I was going out with her a lot for some of her talks. And that's when I started to switch my
mind because, idiot that I am am I would literally have talks with Ann
where I'm like so you know after Trump loses what what's your goal then like what idiot moron that
I am and I would start I like I just I like but then when I started going on talks with her and
they were not racist these are people that voted for Obama they're at her book talks. They're talking to her. They are so anti-Hillary
for a myriad of reasons.
Mostly pro-Trump, though.
Yeah, completely. Anti-Bush.
And I started to watch them like, holy shit, I'm an idiot.
And this could happen.
And I, and then more
and more, it became
very, because again, I wasn't in
my dumb New York bubble
and saw the rest of the nation a little bit
and it became very apparent to me that what she had called from the beginning was going to happen
and across the board i want to i will i think will's upset that's why i just want to explain
you think things i'm upset from what you're not upset no okay then i don't have to make me upset i i i i
i think just to be clear to explain it so nobody takes it the wrong way if there's a question like
who's more likely we know the statistics are that there's much more crime in the in the minority
communities we know this this is why we feel we need programs unless you watch forensic files
this is why listen listen this is this is kind
of you can't have it both ways if there is no uh higher level of social problems within the
minority community then the minority community doesn't need any special attention you can't
both simultaneously say we need special attention but don't tell us we have worse problems they have
worse problems and if they ask these kind of things in a poll question democrats will pretend
no there's
no worse problem if you go deeper than that the reason why they have more problems than minority
because of the situation at hand whether is we're not getting the jobs we're treating being treated
absolutely i'm just saying a lot of liberals will even deny they would say no no white people white
people commit just as much crime as black people. They'll say that with a straight face when everybody knows that's not true.
That's not a knock on black people. That's why black communities
need help. That's why we have programs. That's why we want to help.
The majority of any race are not criminal. But there is a larger criminal
element in the black community than there is in the white community, and there is zero, basically,
in the Asian community. But that's zero, basically, in the Asian community.
But that's just a percentage of within the community. That's mostly because Asians are boring.
I will agree with that.
I don't want to upset you, Will.
He looks fine.
No, no.
You think he looks...
Well, you know how I'm very sensitive to people.
I know Will.
You're a sensitive man.
You're a beautiful man.
All right.
And you'll be running for political office.
I just want to point out, you know, bringing back the race element to this election,
I think one of the things that was most surprising to any number of people who were, you know,
who heard Donald Trump speak or heard the way that cable news described him to speak,
was that Donald Trump did significantly better, at least on the margins,
than Mitt Romney did among African-American voters. And Hispanics. speak was that donald trump did significantly better at least on the margins the mit romney
did among african-american voters and hispanics and in my opinion and now this is there's some
debate about this i do believe he probably did do better among hispanics than romney did though
there is some debate in my opinion though it is fairly clear that you can say he did no worse
he did no worse and in certain communities of Hispanics, he did better, especially lower income, lower education communities.
He certainly did better than Mitt Romney did.
And I think that's a whole element that kind of got missed, that people were hearing Donald Trump saying, oh, you know, he's saying all this stuff.
The minority is going to come out and they're going to vote against him.
Didn't happen.
Right.
Didn't happen.
They were not as offended as I think a lot of white, well-educated liberals in this borough expected or thought.
I've seen that a million times.
I spent my Christmases in Palm Beach with the plutocrats,
and I was there 2015 when Trump had just been crushing, crushing, crushing in the polls.
And I was going around to Christmas parties.
I think you met this guy.
We've been to a party at his house.
But I will not reveal his name.
You'd know his name.
He kept going up to people at Christmasmas parties in palm beach two thousand fifteen
dumbstruck as they've given so much money
the plutocrats and saying i just i don't understand it
all of us were for jab
and all the hispanic helpers for trump
well what you should be that too
they want their wages to go up
i i i think that there was a well i think there were a few things that were going on in this election.
I think education was one of the largest drivers of vote and shifts of votes, more so than we've pretty much seen in our lifetimes, at least, you know, well-educated white people who were attending these, you know, Republican caucus things
or, you know, Republican primaries were big fans of Jeb Bush.
And then everyone who didn't have a college education simply wasn't.
And that went across races as well.
That was something that went across.
I mean, if you go, for instance, into Texas, right,
what you see is a tremendous difference in the counties
which had large numbers of Hispanics who did not have a college degree
versus those counties that had a large number of Hispanics with college degrees.
And Donald Trump spoke to these people in a way that Hillary Clinton simply did not,
or at least in relationship to Mitt Romney.
He connected.
He connected. He connected.
He connected.
He connected with people.
And, you know, more than that,
one of the things that I think gets underplayed here,
the Democrats were in the White House for eight years.
We normally see a change,
especially when you don't have an incumbent running.
There's going to be, you know, Donald Trump,
if you look at the academic stuff, right?
Donald Trump performed about as well as you would expect a normal republican to perform in these situations
the interesting thing to me though is how the coalition's change
and how much more lined up among education levels
how much more lined up among
h left and is that permanent
and is that what i don't tend to think that is a permanent a great question
i don't tend to think that politics is permanent i'm gonna be very interested
to see what occurs in 2018.
But we already have one test of a special election down in Georgia
where they broke down the precinct-level results,
and what we saw was a very high correlation to the presidential vote in 2016
and not so much in 2012, which to me, at least so far,
suggests that, in fact, we are seeing continuation of that.
All right. Two more issues, and then we're done. me at least so far suggests that in fact we are seeing continuation of that two
more issues and then we're done the wall why do people avoid what are we
talking about why do people oppose the wall because they think it won't work or
because they think it will work which one didn't go because they think it will
because they think it will I won't work it will. It won't work. You think it's going to stop Mexicans or immigrants or anybody?
It works in Israel.
It works in China.
It works at the White House.
I just think it's crazy, this idea that walls don't work.
As I've said, it's like saying wheels don't work
because they can punch a hole.
Buckets don't work.
Water can spill out on top.
It's better than nothing.
Berlin might argue with that.
It works quite well, actually.
They were just trying
to keep people in
as opposed to keep people out.
Oh, no, the Berlin Wall
worked fantastically well.
I just look at the 40%
of the illegals that come here.
They do it by flying.
And they stay here longer.
Yeah, the 40%.
No, it isn't.
They undercount illegal aliens.
There are 40 million at least illegal aliens. I just think in the 40%. No, it isn't. They undercount illegal aliens. There are 40 million at least illegal aliens.
I just think in the 21st century, I don't understand how the wall's going to work.
The point is for people like Rubio to act like it has nothing to do with Latin America.
No, it's mostly from Mexico.
So let me make a counterintuitive point.
Let's say I believed, as you did, that they don't even come over the border.
But I want to get an immigration bill passed.
I want to get amnesty or whatever it is.
I'm like, let them build their frigging wall.
Because they're never going to agree
to any immigration reform unless there's a wall.
Not going to happen.
So I'm a Democrat.
I'm like, let them build their frigging wall.
Let them waste their money and it's not going to work.
And in return, let's get our immigration bill through.
Isn't that the smart move?
Right.
Whenever they say it just won't work, it's always
because they know it'll work very well.
Otherwise, why are you terribly opposing?
She's saying it'll work, but she's saying the
wall in China and the wall in Israel.
Are people trying to get into China?
They sure are. We're at one point at least.
They'll hire me. I'm there.
They're trying to get into Israel.
People are trying to get into the United States.
Israel had a huge
illegal immigration problem.
Like we do.
Pouring in from Africa.
Worse for the population
and it went down
and the New York Times
bragged about it.
They built the wall.
You're against the wall
or you're for the wall?
No, it's just all,
it's just all,
I thought Bobby Kelly's show
was boring.
This is fucking,
this is like a,
this is miraculous.
I just had a cup of coffee
and I'm fucking nodding off.
It's all,
it's all fucking nodding off.
It's all fucking numbers and bullshit.
This is why I don't watch CNN.
Because it's just all your take, your numbers, my numbers.
I'm on Will's side finally.
For the first time in three years.
But you don't know if the wall is going to work.
You don't know anything.
You don't really know anything about anything.
It's all conjecture about Trump.
President Biden. Nobody likes Hillary. That's why she lost nobody likes her her husband don't even like her so they're gonna go for her for president yeah i mean it's ridiculous
didn't i didn't i bet you that trump didn't i bet you i lost i was anti hillary the whole time i'm
a democrat i knew she would never win but i i won a couple of bets, but I thought that Hillary was going to
lose. I lost $300 to Kevin
Brennan on a Trump bet. But that's because
I listened to what the media said.
They said that
it had to be a brokered convention. The numbers
remember some of the numbers?
John Kasich? Come on, man.
Who added up the numbers?
This is a closet thing I was telling you about.
And I feel like Kevin doesn't watch the news.
I do.
This is an unfair bet.
I'm going to take it because the numbers don't add up.
He doesn't even know that.
I don't listen to the bullshit.
My ear is on the street.
They go to people in the streets.
I'm like fucking Kojak.
They go to people in the streets and say, hey, who are you going to vote for, Hillary or Trump?
People in the streets will look at Hillary.
Okay, thank you.
No, then that motherfucker goes in the booth
Clothes a little curtain
And people lied
They lied when they polled for Brexit
They lied
So of course they're going to lie this time too
And polling doesn't work like it used to
Because people don't answer their phone
And the people that have landline are old white people
So the polling is inaccurate
Forever
Harry, you guys should get every...
Poor Harry's in pain right now.
That is true.
I just don't know whether or not I want to be your friend.
Because if I want to be your friend, then I'll keep quiet.
But I'll say a few things.
Number one...
No, you don't want to be his friend.
He'll get some polls on whether or not he's going to get some friends here.
He'll just betray you and disappoint you.
It's a contested convention, not a brokered convention there are no more brokers sorry sorry please please please contested convention um we could go through we in fact ran
a our own survey of experts before uh when i think it was right around the wisconsin primary and i
think we had trump either just above or just below the magic 1237 delegates.
But what ended up happening, which was unforeseen, I think, by a lot of people, was that he went
on a winning streak.
I saw it.
You did see it.
I was calling it all along when they said Cruz was going to win when he was winning
a couple of states in the South.
I'm like, Cruz has no, he's going to lose all this momentum.
Did I pay you?
Yes, barely. Liz had to get all this momentum. Did I pay you? Yes, barely.
Liz had to get it from you.
But I paid you.
Most people don't pay their best.
Try betting Will something,
see if you can pay him.
I pay all my debts.
I have no debts.
Will pays back in food.
I pay my college loans.
He's a better man than me.
I have no college loans.
I paid all my debts.
How do you feel about that?
I believe you will.
And what was the last thing?
Oh, healthcare.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. He's defending
his profession. I'm not actually
a pollster. I've never conducted a poll. I merely
judge the polls. He's not your target audience.
Believe me, Harry. Well, I understand that, but
I just want to get it on the record.
The final polling average nationally had
Hillary Clinton ahead by anywhere from three to four
points, depending on what average you took.
Same with Brexit.
She won the national popular vote by two percentage points.
Now, we don't elect our presidents that way, but it is an accuracy measure for polls.
And on that one, it was well in line with the average, what was going forward.
In Brexit, the polls were very, very tight.
It did underestimate the leave side, no doubt about it.
But again, it was within the historical range.
I think what's going on here, in all honesty, is that people expect far too much of polling.
This, we're calling 500 to 1,000 people.
We're not polling every single freaking person.
These aren't golden tickets.
This is the reason we vote.
Otherwise, we just have polling.
I think you're right.
I think no one believes in it.
Why even poll anymore?
Mike Silver's not.
He was way off, too.
Everybody's off.
So why even bother?
I agree.
So we got to move on.
Hold on.
Sorry, sorry.
Our particular website, and you should know that I, in fact, that Nathaniel and I work
for the same website.
Nathaniel.
Nathaniel.
Nathaniel Reed Silver.
We had Trump's odds at 29% to win the election.
No, you didn't.
Yes, we did.
Yeah, they did.
They were attacked.
That morning?
That morning.
I thought they were like at 20.
No, we were at 29.
Maybe you get your news from the New York Times and the Upshot, which had them at 15,
which is about half that.
And 29% of things happen all the time.
I mean, Keith Hernandez's batting average over his career was something like 297.
Keith Hernandez got many base hits
in the National League. You guys need to announce
your poll results in terms of dice.
Like you say, Trump has a better chance
of winning than rolling double sixes.
When people hear that, they're like, oh shit,
I roll double sixes all the time. He might actually
win. They don't know how to process the numbers.
They need something in their own lives to
put like 29% in perspective. I think
you're 100% correct, and I will absolutely
say it. How many people roll dice every day?
Who hasn't had a friend who
rolled double sixes on the last
turn in backgammon or something? It happens all
the time.
Sometimes two or three double sixes
in a row. And when you have
that experience, it's like, oh shit, he could really win.
And in fairness, Keith Hernandez' batting average
in getting pussy? 500, at least.
At least 500. Let's talk about stats
that matter.
Healthcare. Anybody have anything on healthcare, Kevin?
I think being black is a pre-existing
health condition.
That's true.
I think it's...
You're for it? You're against it?
I'm both. I'm for it and against it
is that the word
on the streets
no it's like
the one side
the one side is bad
and the other side is bad
it covers anger management
by the way
no I'm seriously
like if you
isn't that pre-existing health
the Democrats
are too extreme
and the Republicans
both
both things
are too extreme
one side or the other
they both don't poll
I've seen
you know
they don't poll particularly well.
Obamacare didn't poll well when it was first introduced.
If you ask people right now what you'd want to do, a number of people say repeal.
And this American Health Care Act doesn't poll particularly well either.
It's almost as if the American people are just pissed off.
And do you believe that nobody should, through the misfortune of their lives, not be able to get good health care?
Oh, of course not.
We're not going to let anybody die.
No, it's not that.
People go bankrupt when they get sick.
That's the problem.
Do you believe anybody should go bankrupt?
The Republicans don't have a problem with that.
They really don't have a problem with that.
That's why I'm asking Anne.
No, of course no one is going to let anyone,
bad lottery in life,
you get a disease, whatever that is that is what the issue is need to separate
the welfare cases from people who can pay for their own health insurance and
that's the problem we are paying for this form of welfare through our health
insurance premiums
no just separate i think they shouldn't repeal obama care
they should just have
have a simple one sentence uh... line saying there should be a free market in health insurance in America.
And then I could buy health insurance I want to buy the same way I can buy car insurance, flood insurance.
I don't need earthquake insurance if I'm not in California.
I don't need tornado insurance if I'm not in the Midwest.
I don't need hurricane insurance if I'm not in Florida.
So why am I forced to pay for it?
And why do I have to pay the same amount as Warren Buffettett the way we distribute welfare in america is by clout taxing
through an income tax of warren buffett
pays a whole lot more than i do it goes to the fund in washington and that pays
for everyone that's the problem with obama care we pay for for a well for
prepare program through our insurance premiums which means nobody can get
health insurance
happens when the the marketplace will not function as it ought to rationally because kids from
18 to 30 think they're never gonna get say would if it were a free market right
now then yes it would be $30 a month maybe for $30 a month they would yes
they would and we know what it costs because there's a carve out from
Obamacare.
If you're a religious group, so there are all these Christian groups offering,
you're not allowed to call it health insurance, but it's health insurance.
And even right now with a very limited pool, I have it.
It's $50 a month, and it covers everything, not pregnancy, not psychological counseling,
not prenatal care, not gambling addiction therapy,
not the 18 things I am forced to pay for issue if I buy insurance that is made my insurance
was made illegal by Obamacare so now I pay also pay $700 a month and my
insurance plan won't let me go to Sloan Kettering if I get cancer won't let me
go to the hospital of special surgery let us who can afford it buy it on the
private market the same way you buy microphones and beer and shoes and flat screen TVs.
It lowers the price.
The product gets better.
And we will always take care of the welfare cases.
We just shouldn't be forcing me to pay for it.
Yeah, but you're just saying that.
They don't take – first of all, before Obamacare, the insurance companies did whatever the fuck they wanted to.
So if all of a sudden they didn't want to pay it, that you just,
they just wouldn't pay it.
And then I've had situations where they say,
uh,
they said,
we're not going to pay this.
And I said,
well,
they said,
you can,
you can appeal it.
I said to who they go to us.
Right.
I go,
you just,
you just shot me down.
You fucking cunts.
No offense.
But I'm like,
I'm like,
are you guys,
are you guys serious with this?
Appeal it to the people that just shot me down.
It's like getting arrested and then have the cops, you appeal to the cops.
Right.
It has to be separate, and it wasn't.
So they would let you go bankrupt, preexisting.
They would have all kinds of bullshit.
So basically, Obamacare was like, you can't do this.
Like, if your kid was sick, they would drop people from the insurance plan because it was too expensive.
There was a comedians association, and they actually got a letter saying we discontinued it because a lot of comedians were alcoholics and getting
AIDS and it's like I know we're terrible people so they just they just they just just discontinued
I don't know if Nate Silver thinks about this but they just discontinued it because they didn't want
to fucking pay it anymore they were it's they're in for profit they want us they want to pay out
the least amount of money to the least amount of people.
Like me.
And that's a dangerous situation.
No, but that's the same way it is.
And what I'm suggesting isn't the prior system.
Those were regulated by state insurance commissions.
And badly.
And very badly.
No, it was very bad.
But look, you can say the same thing for,
I don't know, anything you get.
Your bottled water.
They're trying to make a profit.
Yeah, but it's not life and death and bankruptcy.
People get sick, they go bankrupt.
Your food.
If you couldn't buy food, we're so used to living under.
They pay 20%, or they pay 80%, and then you're responsible for the rest, or they're capped.
They pay 80%, you pay 20%, and then they're capped on how much you pay.
Then you're in debt for the rest, for the rest of your life.
This is like trying to explain to an old Soviet woman, circa 1988, how she will get bread if the government doesn't provide it.
You are describing a socialist system when every other product we get, it is for profit and the price keeps coming down.
The flat screen TV manufacturers, food manufacturers, you die without water, you die without food.
Why, when you go into a grocery store in America, are there 18 varieties of orange juice, and in the Soviet Union, they couldn't produce bread? Because the government, as the old insurance system worked, they were the ones regulating it and deciding it. No, they were making a lot of money, the insurance companies, on your eyes is in the hundreds of dollars. Right.
It's on the free market.
Cosmetic surgery is very cheap,
but if you need appendicitis,
it's going to cost a fortune.
But they've ruined the market for everyone because of the hard cases.
Who's they?
They, first...
White people.
Well, first...
Yeah, the Jews.
First...
The Jews.
This is how you get in trouble.
By the way, you once said
that Jews can't go to heaven.
Oh, I did not say that. But wait, you said it to Donnie
George or something like that.
I thought that was a poem. You got in big trouble
for it. And I'm like, of course,
of course. And you said, that's what
Christians believe, that Jews are not perfected
or whatever it was that you said.
I thought it was terrible. I thought you guys had your own
heaven, your better heaven.
Better furniture.
We know Christians believe that we're not baptized
and there's some consequence to that
or some Christians believe that.
That's not hate speech.
Anyway.
Just start celebrating Christmas.
Everything will change.
I don't know why you guys are holding out on Christmas.
It's a good holiday.
Jesus brought a Christmas tree.
It's just a good holiday.
We're about out of time
unless somebody has something...
I'm burning... My real question is why do you know so much about cosmetic surgery, Noam?
He's gorgeous.
Of course he does.
Look at him.
How can you ask that?
Because I read.
He looks like an old craggly Jew.
You were looking at me when you said that.
Get him, Kevin.
Get him.
Now you like him.
I see his point a little bit.
Kevin kind of looks like a skinnier, better looking version of Jim Tomei,
the former first baseman in Major League Baseball.
Jim Tomei.
What was his lifetime home run total?
Well into 500.
He's into 500.
I just want to know if you knew exactly, because I do.
533, I don't know.
I'll say 523.
Is it 523?
I don't know.
I'm guessing.
I'm now looking this up. Hold on. Let's see what Jim know. Don't say 5.23. Is it 5.23? I don't know. I'm guessing. I'm now looking this up.
Hold on.
Let's see what Jim Tomei's home run.
People ask me all the time.
I say, I know Ann Coulter.
I love Ann Coulter.
They're like, does she really believe everything that she says?
Yeah, I want to know that too.
And I'm always like, of course she does.
She absolutely believes.
I've never detected any hedging in private or in public about what she believes.
Correct?
My friends from summer camp always want to write in and say, no, no, she'd run up to me on the camping trail.
She's always been like this.
No, I don't know why liberals find that such a comforting thought.
So me acting, I can still beat your ass in a debate?
That's kind of pathetic if you're just up against someone
who's making it all up.
And we did it.
What was the feminism?
What was the debate?
Is conservatism possible?
Best debate ever.
And wipe the floor with everybody.
And people who were, you know,
not predisposed to agree with Ann
were leaving saying,
I hate to say this,
but I kind of agreed with Ann Coulter.
Oh, I love you.
I think I told you before you did that
that she was going to destroy that.
Oh, I love you both.
It's very hard.
That's why I met Harry here.
There was blood on the tracks.
I came up to Harry after the reception,
and in Trump we trust E Pluribus Awesome
hadn't come out yet.
And I said, oh, I quote you in my next book.
I have a genius's appendix.
And he knew exactly what the quote was.
I mean, I have had many dumb quotes in my day.
You know, I tell you this much.
You gave him a lot tonight.
Yeah, right.
I quoted everyone saying that Trump had no chance of becoming the nominee.
And there was one where he said he had a better chance of playing the next,
having a cameo in Home Alone.
Home Alone, the next Home Alone.
He had a better chance of winning the NBA finals than becoming the nominee.
There are any number of hilarious quotes that I completely stand by
because we're in actually Earth 37 right now and back on Earth 1,
which is, that's where my quotes apply,
damn it.
So you guys want to plug your,
what is it, Stephen?
You have a question,
come on.
Oh, there's a question.
Real quick,
and this is directed to the panel,
but especially Anne,
why do you think
that most comedians
are left of center?
Well, I'll defer
to the comedians on this,
but I would think
it's because they're in places
like New York City.
And as Kevin just indicated, he's bored with the details.
No, it's easier to get laid if you're left of center.
But why are the girls?
99% of women in Manhattan are left of center.
So it's easier to get laid.
I was left of center.
I dated a lesbian.
Now I'm married.
My wife's blackish.
I'm in the middle.
I think both sides are ridiculous.
If I was out
single, I'd be back to left of center.
After a while, you need to get laid.
Just like you gotta eat.
But Bill O'Reilly did it.
Yeah, I was gonna say, that wasn't the experience
at Fox News. Yeah, but he won.
That's why they recruited these women from wherever, some colony.
And then they'd have to play nice with him.
So I'm saying if you want to be super rich,
Bill Schultz actually is a liberal,
and every one of his girlfriends has been a right-winger.
So I do not think he's on TV.
I think you're talking about the 60s.
I think he's on Fox up from osmosis.
It's easy to meet women now online.
I'm saying back in the day.
I think comedians, not the black ones so much,
but I think the non-black comedians are more centrist actually
than their demographic profile would predict.
Age, all that.
I'll say two things.
One on the dating front, one on the comedian front.
On the dating front, look, it's all about
getting the biggest pool possible.
And if you yourself are a conservative male
in New York City or any of the
major metropolitan areas these days,
you shrink your pool considerably among
younger women. It's just a fact.
And then the other thing in terms of comedians...
Didn't I just say that? Yes.
Not nearly as clearly.
Yes, but he said statistically.
Your pool of women? statistically. Your pool of women?
What?
Your pool of women, your potential dating clients.
I have zero in my pool.
Zero?
Well, we'll talk afterwards and get you some help.
I know some people.
Now, in terms of comedians, I think we have to be very careful in what we define as left-wing, right-wing, centrist, right?
I think that comedians are much more free speech than a lot of the people who are parading around and calling themselves liberal these days.
Perhaps they believe in gay marriage.
Perhaps they believe in abortion rights.
But they certainly do not agree with the idea that we should keep people quiet whose views we disagree with.
And I think that's going to be one of the more interesting things going forward I distance myself personally from I from anyone who just will shut
themselves off to alternative ideas I update anybody whether the liberal
conservative moderate as long as they're not a racist or you know don't believe
Adolf Hitler was the greatest person of all time I could go on a date with them
but the fact is I can't go on a date with you if I say oh I'm gonna go hang
out with somebody say oh oh no, ew, oh, no way.
The worst person ever.
That's probably why I have a shitty date.
Do you say that before you come or after you come?
I mean, you know, that's two different persons.
Well, that's part of the reason why I've learned to try and stay away from that whole thing
because I've gotten myself into relationships where I just go,
Oh,
I don't want to hang out with you again.
And then it's like,
I'll meet you at your apartment.
It's like,
Hey,
no,
not too bad.
I like that.
Pretty decent.
We can all agree on that.
We've all been there.
All right.
Anybody else?
Okay.
So you want to,
you want to,
your,
your Twitter,
your,
your,
your podcast,
Kevin,
Brendan,
six,
six,
six at Twitter.
And,
um,
I'll be in a stone Harbor, New Jersey, May 20th.
And then I'll be here this weekend.
At Comedy Cellar.
Yeah.
Will Silvens, Will1LSYLVINCE.
My film festival is happening right now.
Submissions, anybody want to submit to my film festival?
NBC Short Film Festival.
This is our 12th annual film festival.
So any filmmakers,
you have until May 15th
to submit your film.
And also the Comedy Cellar
needs to thank Will Silvins
for this juggernaut of a show,
which was his idea
and he runs Thursday night.
Monday nights and Thursday nights.
Monday and Thursday,
New Joke Night.
New Joke Night,
basically comics,
leave the script alone
and just come out
and just come up with new jokes
off their books,
their phones, whatever.
But you kind of quarterback it
and pull the string.
It's fantastic.
And your book?
I have nothing.
I have a Twitter feed,
at Ann Coulter.
At Ann Coulter.
May 20th,
that'll be right around the time
that I have my
will-be-brilliant profile
unknown for entrepreneur.
Award-winning, I hear. Well well yeah uh nobel peace prize basically pilots are all that stuff but harry enton at forecast at forecaster e n t e n
on the twitter dial and you can contact me there if i sound interesting to you harry by the way
answers almost all his tweets and his emails.
I've seen that.
It's needy.
I have no life.
Thank you very much, everybody.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, Anne.
Thank you.
Good night, everybody.