The Comedy Cellar: Live from the Table - Ann Coulter, Bill Schulz, Kevin Brennan, Wil Sylvince, and Harry Enten

Episode Date: May 11, 2017

Ann Coulter is a conservative political pundit, columnist, and author of 12 best-selling books. Bill Schulz is an American journalist and TV personality. Kevin Brennan is a standup comedian and host... of the "Misery Loves Company" podcast. He may be seen performing regularly at the Comedy Cellar. Wil Sylvince is a standup comedian and host of the Comedy Cellar's weekly "New Joke Night." He may be seen performing regularly at the Comedy Cellar. Harry Enten is a senior political writer and analyst for Fivethirtyeight.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Comedy Cellar, live from the table on the Riotcast Network, riotcast.com. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to The Comedy Cellar show here on Sirius XM Channel 99. This is The Comedy Cellar radio show, and normally we do this at the back table of The Comedy Cellar, but this is a special edition and we have some very important guests we have a comedy seller hero someone we actually is absolutely adored and admired here miss ann coulter is here and we're very very happy she came down especially at a time when you must be in a lot of demand with everything going on yes berkeley's demanding to have me back through berkeley uh Bill Schultz of red-eye fame and an entrepreneur magazine yes which I'm doing a profile of you on within the next two weeks and it's going
Starting point is 00:00:52 to win us both a lot of awards a P body I know I pulled sir mm-hmm by the way it's a little sick right now so she came for you know oh thank you so much love in this room 538 calm mrcom, Mr. Harry Enten. Are you old enough now that we can stop calling you a whiz kid? I think I've been old enough for a number of years now, but they decided to call me that, and who am I to? You look 12. I do look 12, and I was just showing everyone my high school ID,
Starting point is 00:01:21 which I still hold on to. And representing the comedy community. Actually, Kevin Brennan's coming later as well. But representing the comedy community, Mr. Will Silvins. What's going on? So, welcome everybody. Let's get right to it, Ann, because it's
Starting point is 00:01:37 the biggest story. When I was in college, there's two real memories I have of, and I don't remember much from college. I don't think most people do. I don't remember learning many things. It was yesterday for me, but keep going.
Starting point is 00:01:52 But I remember an intense debate where the liberals felt that the KKK ought to be able to march in Skokie, Illinois, and they were proud. And I also remember Mayor Kahana, the kind of, now they call him a racist Jew, coming to speak to us. And even though I didn't agree with much of it, it was one of the most stimulating lectures I ever went to
Starting point is 00:02:15 because I had to grapple with what I was hearing in a way that I wouldn't have had to otherwise. And to this day, things that he said in that lecture still come to my mind as I'm thinking about those issues. Fast forward to 2017, they won't even let you make a speech. So go ahead, tell us a little bit of the story. Right, well, I was invited to give a speech by college Republicans and also a nonpartisan group
Starting point is 00:02:35 who just sponsored debate. So the first half of the debate was given. It was the second half. I was never allowed to give a week later because at Berkeley, the administration and the police are allowing thugs to come in and smash windows and bust the place up whenever a conservative is speaking. As for the outrageousness of my speech, it was on immigration, the topic of my second to last New York Times bestseller. And my argument was going to be that federal laws developed over many generations
Starting point is 00:03:06 by Republicans and Democrats should be enforced. That was the gist of it. That's the hate speech. And what is the accusation? I tried to look up. I was Googling Ann Coulter hate speech. What did she say? What has she said?
Starting point is 00:03:22 And I have some examples. I could read them, but what do you think is like, what do you think is the worst thing? Like, what do they always tar you with? For a long time, it was invented quotes that I never said. After the Time magazine cover story, I told the guy, because he was a reporter writing about it. He was reading these quotes to me. And I said, I never said that. I never said that.
Starting point is 00:03:41 You can look it up. And he did. He recalled his Time magazine, and he ordered the transcripts from TV interviews from years ago. And these quotes that would go around, and Media Matters would send around, and angry people would call into radio shows, and you said, blah, blah, blah. So almost all of those were untrue. So now they have to go on jokes, which they then rewrite as if, you know, through a computer program, translate into German and then back into Russian. And then it comes out just unrecognizable as what the joke was. And that's that's usually what it is. That's called the, quote, hate speech. Look, I think this is why we like you at the comedy.
Starting point is 00:04:19 So because some of your jokes are pretty tough, but they're exactly the kind of jokes that the comedians tell at the table in the cell. Like you said about the gold star dad, like, oh, now all we need is a Muslim with a thick accent like Fareed Zakaria. That's exactly what Colin Quinn or somebody like that. Go ahead. Oh, so no, I was just about to add to what you were
Starting point is 00:04:39 saying. Like any comedian that gets to know her loves her. They could disagree with her all they want. They love what comes out of her mouth. They love that she has no fear. And that's any good comedian. So it doesn't matter like what side of the political spectrum you're on. Any good comedian worth their salt, once they meet Ann Coulter, loves her.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah, it's true. And love her. Also, if you're telling jokes, I mean, you have to be taking risks. And it's funny. You can look back on YouTube right now. You might remember this. I didn't see it at the time, but that Martin Mull, from New Canaan, by the way, used to do this show, Fernwood.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And you look up the things he used to say. They're hilariously funny. There was one all on stereotyping. And it's like a professor. You need to see it. But it's just going through one ethnic stereotype after another being discussed as if, you know, it's being discussed very seriously. And you could not do that today. I mean, even five or 10 years ago, some of the humor you see couldn't be done today. You can't do it. It's, I mean, the whole culture is moving in a very bad direction. I mean, I think it's more serious than people are giving credit for
Starting point is 00:05:48 because they really are moving towards a kind of totally becoming untethered from the values which made us successful. I mean, it's Charles Murray. Charles Murray. I know. I mean, this is an important intellect, and he also wrote a book, which is very controversial. The bell curve.
Starting point is 00:06:08 The bell curve, which touched on some topics that can be badly misused by racists. But he should be able to speak and defend himself, you know? Right. Will, you have anything? I think when you start to censor people, you don't get a true idea of what they're trying to talk about. So I'm all in favor of just speaking, regardless of what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's been good for comedians. I've noticed here at Comedy Cellar, you in particular, you're totally hilarious, Will. Thank you. And the first time I saw you, I hadn't been here for like a year. I was writing a book or something. And now you've had to expand. You have to go to the village underground around the street, both places in basements. And the first time, I'm pretty sure it was the first time I saw you, for 90 minutes, every single joke was an ethnic joke or a sexual joke. There was only like 10 minutes on some guy talking about his penis. Other than that, every comedian.
Starting point is 00:07:05 It was a minute and an inch. And they'd all begin by saying, you know, any Chinese here, you're not going to like the next few minutes. And one after another, they kept doing that. Where can you go and people could just talk, like how they stop you from doing your speech maybe you should do in the standout so you could do at the comedy club you know i'm saying it's
Starting point is 00:07:29 getting to that point that the basement of the comedy cellar is the only place i'll be it's like we're in the old soviet union let's all go to a basement where we can tell ethnic jokes but two more things and i'm gonna open it up do you think that really this is just fun for them, for the students and all the protesting, like all the fake, what did Philip Roth who read that thing, the ecstasy of sanctimony? Yes. Or as I was calling them, indignogasms.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yes, I like that. So indignant is an indignogasm. Yeah, it's just this rapturous feeling of indignation. And let's be honest, it is a nice feeling. Like, we've all been indignant at times. And it is, the pleasure centers of the brains are triggered. And kids are even more prone to it. But do they even really care?
Starting point is 00:08:19 Or is this just a fun thing to all jump aboard and protest and culture? None of them have probably any idea what you've ever said, right? Well, most of them, probably any idea what you've ever said right well most of them i think were not students i think the bigger problem the serious problem is is the administrators they are actually with the armed thugs who are masked up suited wearing masks and they can only operate in a mob most of the arrests they were like public school teachers they're they're local government officials and and what happened was i mean the nineteen sixties when that the free speech movement that was free speech for communists and the communist took over the universities and
Starting point is 00:08:51 now i'll no more free speech i'm i'm annoyed at my allies though i've been told i should stop attacking my allies attack they're the ones who backs down we were about to get a court order uh... for a court ordering berkeley to provide me with a proper venue on the police to do their effing jobs uh... and they wouldn't file for the
Starting point is 00:09:10 t r o it's called in the law thomas alexander yes why uh... they just back down they got cowardly they're out of washington uh... and that then i was just a i i had no options i found another lawyer so the college republicans could file it. They forbade the college Republicans from filing for it. And unless the judge was Howard Dean, we were going to win a court. I mean, even in the Ninth Circuit, a judge who hated me,
Starting point is 00:09:36 he wouldn't be able to look at his colleagues in the eye. These were open, ostentatious violations of the Second Amendment, or sorry, First Amendment. And unlike many other rulings that i think are clear there there this has been going on for fifty years the court saying you can't demand more money for one group than another for permit you can't have special requirements and they are a put a whole slew of special requirements on my speech had to
Starting point is 00:09:59 be during the day could only be students they wouldn't give us the venue at the last minute and my my allies gaff based in washington they kept saying well we should just pull out right now this is a violation of the first amendment we'll issue a sternly worded press release and i kept saying no no no i want to give my speech agree to everything i'll do it i'll do it i'll do it i would request that they take a few measures of their own like not telling the police to step down. But no, just keep agreeing. And then I agreed to everything and they just canceled anyway. Wow, the court system is not working for you.
Starting point is 00:10:30 How does that feel? Well, it would have. I think it would have. They didn't that. I mean, she's white. Of course it would have. No, this is in fact, this is why I've always wanted to replace Martin Luther King Day with Thurgood Marshall. Thurgood Marshall was the one. I mean, that's how you vindicate constitutional rights in this country you go to court this is a
Starting point is 00:10:50 constitutional right you go to court and that's why they're good marshall never really liked martin luther king is that true him i didn't know that that was mob action he said they're sending in a boy to do a man's job but that's why i admire very good marshall and that's why he sat on the supreme court because he'd just kept saying no i'm sorry you have a constitution taking it to court it wasn't
Starting point is 00:11:11 i mean martin luther king brought attention to it was important but i wanted to be thorough good marshall and and when a court ruling so you know i graduated from college relatively recently and i i i i don't think that it's that they just want the attention i honestly believe that students these days are not comfortable hearing other students or other points of view that don't agree with their own so uh... the dartmouth which is the uh... school newspaper up there recently conducted a survey in which they said how comfortable would you be having a
Starting point is 00:11:38 roommate with political views different than your own and indeed democrats only thirty nine 39% said they would be comfortable while 45% of Democrats said they would be uncomfortable. That means that more Democrats at Dartmouth College felt uncomfortable sharing a room with someone who had different views than their own. And that's so different
Starting point is 00:11:57 than my college experience. This was my college year, the final year, these were my roommates. I had someone who was of Persian origin from Kansas this was my college year the the final year these were my roommates i had someone who is a persian origin from kansas city who was one most liberal democrats i've ever seen at a white guy from minnesota who was a democrat but not all that level and then i had an asian guy from
Starting point is 00:12:16 manhattan kansas who was one of the few republicans in my class and we all got together and everything worked out well and everything was fine and dandy but apparently these days these students just don't want to hear it. Diversity of ideas is important to understand the worldview so that you don't live in your bubble. And it just seems today, poof, it's gone. It's very dangerous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And the smear, the smear. I see it related, and I have no idea how you feel about Bill O'Reilly, but I see it related to that in the sense. Long silences on this side of the table I had a feeling but you know it shouldn't not for the reasons that are attacking him
Starting point is 00:12:49 I just think he's a pompous blowhard right so so you know I when he got fired
Starting point is 00:12:55 I went and I read the Andrea Macris complaint oh that's fun reading and it is the most ridiculous thing this is this is exactly what it says. And nobody knows this.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And believe me, you would know this if this was the one he'd have brought her a complaint. 2002, she went to work for Fox News. Immediately, he started saying inappropriate things to her, told her to get a vibrator, told her she needed to get laid, blah, blah, blah. Two years it went on. She didn't record this.
Starting point is 00:13:23 She didn't record it, no. She did record it. At some point, she started recording. The falafel. So is it out there? We can hear it? No, later on. So then she left in 2004
Starting point is 00:13:34 and went to work for CNN. Three months later, she contacts Bill O'Reilly. She says, you know, I'd come back to work for you if you just match, just match the same pay I had at CNN.
Starting point is 00:13:45 He says, okay, let's meet for dinner and talk about it. Problematic. They meet in a hotel restaurant. She describes his tone as strange, alarming, and paranoid, I think. But they work it out. And then he says, you don't have room upstairs. There's an election night. You want to come up and watch the returns?
Starting point is 00:14:02 She goes. Then nothing happened. Then a few days later, he says, listen, I want to come up and watch the returns? She goes. Then nothing happened. Then a few days later, he says, listen, I spoke to whoever it is at Fox, and they can't match your salary. I'll make up the difference. Wow. So she went back to work for the guy who had been harassing her, knowing he's paying money out of his pocket through his radio show.
Starting point is 00:14:22 For the same money she was working at CNN, working for CNN, she gets a tape recorder, records him, and ruins his life. Right, but makes a lot of money. Okay, but she did record things. Now, that's a good point. He tried to trap her. There's no good people in these storylines.
Starting point is 00:14:40 But he tried to trap her with the woman upstairs. You're not going to find a good guy and a bad guy in this. There's a lot of middle ground here. This sounds to me like she went back to set him up. Oh, yeah. Well, okay. You're not wrong. Set him up for what?
Starting point is 00:14:55 For being who he is? Well, okay. And there's that, too. That's who he is. It's not like she took him out of his character and said, Hey, what do you think about these titties? I'm like, oh, my God. That's dirtier than anything he's said.
Starting point is 00:15:07 By the way, Will was looking at me when he said that, and I feel harassed. I hope we're recording this. Now, let me put it in perspective. I looked up the average recovery for loss of a limb in New York State, $230,000. Listen to Bill Reilly whack off $9 million. $9 million. What do you mean whack off 9 million dollars 9 million dollars what do you mean whack off and
Starting point is 00:15:27 she recorded him jerking off on the phone yes oh yes he whacked off on the phone or simulated all the money he got
Starting point is 00:15:33 he got to do that on the phone yeah the shit that I do yeah be glad that you don't have to pay 13 million dollars to people I wish I
Starting point is 00:15:41 I wish I so now what happens is the Times writes a story about that and something that wasn't sexual and some other cases. All allegations and allegations become, I mean
Starting point is 00:15:51 this was another value that we had is that when you settle something, that's not evidence of guilt. Right. That's gone. We short circuited that. Nine million I'd say is kind of evidence, but the other ones I agree with. No, I'll tell you why not. And guilt of what? If you got tons of money like that and Fox has...
Starting point is 00:16:08 Right. I think Fox probably is the one that paid, but whatever it is... No, he paid. He paid out of his pocket? He makes a lot of money. Is that not worth it so your children don't have to hear that tape recording? I think the most interesting thing about both the lawsuits against Ailes and O'Reilly, and I have not looked into the details the way
Starting point is 00:16:26 Bill here has, but... Oh, I'm obsessed. But I will say, it's striking to me that all of the girls, whatever whether, however extreme the harassment is or isn't, whether you agree or disagree, they were all cool with it as long as they were still on air. It wasn't
Starting point is 00:16:42 until they got fired. And they were the weakest of the Fox. I have to say this. I mean, it sounds ugly, but I know we all know who these personalities were. Yes. None of them were strong personalities.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Well, no. I mean, he was using his show to pick up dates. I mean, I think the people who have a legitimate lawsuit against Bill O'Reilly are his viewers. And they should have fired him
Starting point is 00:17:03 10 years ago. I think we know where Ann stands. We're living in a smear culture where perception becomes reality. You're a hate monger. Bill O'Reilly's, and it's all, and it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:17:14 because the people in charge, whether it's the advertisers or the networks or the universities are ready to take drastic action just on the impression that's out there. Right. Whether it's true or not.
Starting point is 00:17:26 They don't even have to investigate it. It doesn't need to be true. And that's, I think, spreading everywhere. I'm joined by Kevin Brennan, by the way. Thank you very much. You have anything you want to say, Kevin, about this? Nothing so far. And listen.
Starting point is 00:17:37 But, Noam, you bring up a great point. There are no good guys in this. No. If you want to go across the board, there are no good guys. Having said that, and exactly everything you said, I cannot argue with at all. I think the good guys are the women who brought them down. They are. You are right.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Why not? Hold on. You said they should not have reported it? They should have reported it to the boss. Yeah, but how do you know they weren't? How do you know at that point when they did? Dude, these guys are so powerful. They're like, come on, get back to work.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Agreed. What about Juliette Huddy? They needed a library of evidence to bring them down. Huddy was Roger Ailes' goddaughter. Yes. She could not report the fact that Bill O'Reilly was harassing her to Roger Ailes, to her godfather. She was afraid of retribution. No, it doesn't all hold water. No, it's a payday for a lot of them. Riley was harassing her to Roger Ailes to her godfather? She was afraid of retribution? No.
Starting point is 00:18:27 It doesn't all work. No, it's a payday for a lot of it. You have no idea what the relationship is. Just because the title godfather is in there doesn't mean they coochie crunch. Fair enough, Will. Is that a serial coochie crunch? Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:18:44 You want to say something? I thought that was the name of this podcast. Is that Coochie Crunch? These women, they weren't hired for their journalism. They were hired for their looks. I mean, there was like eye candy. All the Fox. Nats. All the Fox.
Starting point is 00:18:55 He worked at Fox. He knows that. I know. I recognize him. Anyway, I'd be on the treadmill watching Fox News and just four hot women with their legs crossed. I mean, they weren't hot. They didn't come from Harvard Journalism School.
Starting point is 00:19:09 No, they did not. Have you seen the first post-Roger Ailes show that they've aired with Eric Bolling in the afternoon? It's horrible, horrible. They bring up a lot of names that are going to bite my lip on right now. Wait, there's a show. There's a new show that replaced The Five, which is now at nine. The girl that was on with Gutfeld, she was like the blonde Andy Levy.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Once you left, I never watched it. Can I talk about bowling? If you guys are friends, you can shut me up. He seems like a total empty suit to me. Go ahead. Well, I just want to say I'm not a fan of that program, unless, of course, they have me on, in which case I'm a huge fan of that particular program look sound like my cousin well if your cousin's a nice guy or gal well there you go well all the more power um i i would just say a few things uh number one
Starting point is 00:19:58 look i don't know who to believe or not to believe but my general viewpoint is if i work with someone i don't have a phone conversation with them in which I am telling them about my masturbation practices. I think that's a good call. And I just think it's incredibly stupid. I don't know. You call up the people that you work with despite the fact that you're married
Starting point is 00:20:17 and you tell them, oh my God, right now I'm watching the greatest... Don't answer that, Norm. Don't answer that. I'm right now... You're not under oath. You're not under oath. Fuck that. I don't know. You want a total honest answer to that? You're on under oath. You're not under oath. Fuck that. I don't know. You want a total honest answer to that? You're on Pornhub.com right now. You're watching the lesbian scene from blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:20:32 No, I'm about to give a total honest answer. Listen, the moral of this story is be a mensch. Of course. That's really good O'Reilly's problem because in my career, I've been doing this since I was in my early 20s. You made a man. I've been doing this since I was in my early 20s. You made these calls. I slept with probably a dozen people I worked with, and I've been turned down by probably three times that real. Actually, probably half that. But anyway, and never once, never once did I ever have any bad feeling,
Starting point is 00:20:59 any friction, I mean, you know, nothing. So that's just how you act. I love the fact that you said this because, as she knows, I was not a good guy at Fox News. Yes, you were. Well, thank you. But, like, I wasn't a good guy in the sense that, I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:14 it's not like I was a monk. But, at the very least, I always got, like, I always, I never harassed. You're not a creep. Yeah, anyone I dated or did anything else with. Yeah, but he's not Bill O'Reilly.
Starting point is 00:21:28 They allowed me to date. Bill O'Reilly. And she knows the people I dated. And exactly what you're saying, what a lot of the higher-ups did is it's hard to defend. You saw it happening? Without a doubt from the beginning. My non-disclosure agreement only goes so far. Now that Ailes is out and now O'Reilly,
Starting point is 00:21:54 I can confirm what I saw from the beginning. She never actually worked for Fox News. She was on all the time. I know the makeup artist. I'm the one that had to sign off. You knew from the beginning that O'Reilly was a predator. Hair and makeup.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Except I don't think it was so much that he was a predator. The girls were happy to date him. A lot of the girls suing dated him. What I'm saying is a lot of the girls who are on Fox News are very pretty, but they actually are smart. But on O'Reilly's show, he wasn't interviewing Heather MacDonald, Maggie Haberman.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Did anyone think he was using his show as anything? I mean, once in a while, he'd have a smart guess. But by and large, it was so obvious to anyone who tuned in, he's using his TV show to date girls. It would be as if your comedians all were really hot, but weren't necessarily funny. We'd all get kind of suspicious. And then even if you did nothing with them, if some of them taped you. Unbelievably well said. If you were to go down even two, three years ago, if there was a regular on O'Reilly's show,
Starting point is 00:23:00 and you're like, she doesn't bring much to the table, do the math. If she doesn't bring much to the table, but she keeps going on, do the math. I know. I never. I used to see these kind of like subpar blondes on O'Reilly. But I never heard of him. We'll just give you that little bit. No, but his audience was all white men.
Starting point is 00:23:18 So what do all white men want to hear O'Reilly? And then they want to look at some hot young girls. That's what they want. That's what I want. You like Spanish girls, too? Yeah. So they had some black girls for me. Did you finish your point, Harry?
Starting point is 00:23:31 I know we kind of interrupted you. To be perfectly honest, I'm not willing to divulge what type of women I like on the air. Sounds like we're using women in quotes. I got a question for 538, and I'm sure Ann wants to chime in. Comey, did he swing the election for Hillary? Okay, this is a complex question, because I believe that it's multifaceted.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Number one, Hillary Clinton should never have been in the position that she was in, facing a candidate who was as unpopular as Donald Trump, so that any last-minute October surprise could swing the election. She simply should not have been. I mean, pretty much any other candidate on the Democratic side could have beat Donald Trump, except apparently for Hillary Clinton.
Starting point is 00:24:12 That being said, I think it is an unescapable fact that when James Comey came out, or that was the email that was released through Jason Chavitt, so on and so forth, we did see Hillary Clinton's poll numbers drop overnight. In fact, two of the largest drops that she had during the campaign were immediately following like the three or four days following. And those drops were significant enough, given the tightness of the election, to cause Clinton to lose in states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. And if she had won those three states, she obviously would have won the election.
Starting point is 00:24:45 So the answer to that is yes, but it's one of many factors in a tight election. A lot of different things could have shifted. If she had had the black turnout that Barack Obama had had, she would have probably won those three states. So yes, but put a little asterisk around it. Well, it's just everybody only remembers the we're reopening it announcement. But technically twice he said things that helped her. Only once did he say. So first he clears her.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Then he says we've reopened the investigation. Then he says we've closed the investigation. Maybe he should have just kept his mouth shut. But I just want to point out that people only talk about the one in the middle. Well, I and I will say this much, about that much. Number one, although he definitely cleared her in July, he had some negative things to
Starting point is 00:25:32 say about her, and her poll numbers did in fact drop after that particular press conference. It wasn't the most flattering picture that he had painted of her, because she did something that was very stupid. I thought that was intentional on his part. I felt like he was like, listen, i'm not going to indict her but i but this is a political question so let me make sure the political world
Starting point is 00:25:50 understands exactly what she did so they can make the best i think she's gonna lose anyway correct and and the one thing i will point out look Donald Trump had a very rough October as well i mean i mean that's those debates, performances, even even be exactly people who supported him would agree that those debate performances were on par with some of the worst I've ever seen. Yeah. And yet it didn't see, you know, despite that, despite the fact that you had the Access Hollywood tape come out, he managed to stick around. He managed to stick around and make it so that this was going to be a tight election either way. Even if Comey doesn't come out and say what he says, Hillary Clinton's still barely going to beat Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Which is, I think, stunning. I think she was going to lose anyway whether Comey came out. I have another observation. You tell me what you think of it. Because there was a bunch of closet Trumpers, closet racists, closet people who really don't know what they want to do,
Starting point is 00:26:46 or closet people who are not ready for a female president. Oh, Will. They couldn't publicly say... Are you just tossing fastballs so I can hit them out of the park? Because they couldn't publicly say this because whether their family or their jobs or their friends would freaking attack know attack him you know he really believes this and and it's it's no you really do believe that
Starting point is 00:27:13 the whole Trump thing is about racist and I mentioned a bunch of things not just and go ahead but I do think he's right that a lot of people wouldn't admit they supported Trump I mean yes the great thing, there are many downsides to being Ann Coulter. One of the upsides is wherever I am, any right winger in the room will make himself known to me. And it is shocking how many secret right wingers there are in places you would not expect them. That's absolutely true. When my Puerto Rican wife was watching, she goes, you know, I think I'm supporting Trump. I remember like, I think he might win.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Don't tell anybody. Don't tell my family. Even the hood. Even the hood. A lot of people in the hood supported Trump secretly. And they, it is what it is. It's like, you know, for all, I'm not, you keep saying, I'm saying the race thing. It's a bunch of different things.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I'm going to dispel the racial notion. I think Ann will agree with me. No, but I think he's saying that they don't want to be accused of being racist. Yeah, but he's saying, let me tell you why the racist vote is not why Trump won. And I think this is... It's part of the freaking pie, dude. It's in the cake. It's a mix.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I'm going to prove to you why I think it's not, or at least not over previous elections. If you're a racist and you are not sufficiently motivated to go out and vote against Barack Obama, against a black man to become president, if your racist dick wasn't at full erect, how much more did voting for Donald Trump get you going? Can I explain that? I assume that Can I explain that? I assume that 100% of the racists Went out and voted against the black president
Starting point is 00:28:51 Because You know what Trump's No pun intended You know what Trump's racism? What? Money When your money ain't right You can't go on hating
Starting point is 00:29:00 You gotta pay your bills You gotta eat So I can't freaking hate I gotta go freaking I don't have no job. I got no work. Freaking Bush left us in such a dire state. I let you talk. I want to move on to another thing.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Oh, now it's getting real. You got to shut it down because you ain't got no explanation for this shit. Harry, go ahead. Throw the race card at him, Will, for cutting you off. Oh, because I'm black? Is that what it is? Go ahead, Harry. I don't know what I've jumped into here,
Starting point is 00:29:30 but I'm going to come with some numbers and some facts. Go ahead, Will. We do know from studies that, in fact, voting for Trump was correlated with higher levels of racism and sexism than it was for voting for Mitt Romney. That is an undeniable fact. Tell no one. You look at me, tell no one. From servants.
Starting point is 00:29:51 But I think that it would be foolish to believe that most of the people who changed their mind, and there were many of them who voted for Barack Obama in 2012, and then voted for Donald Trump in 2016, in states like Wisconsin, in states like michigan and states like pennsylvania racist voters i think at the end of the day barack obama was able to thread the needle and strike more of a populist tone speak more about the economy in a way that agreed with these people's views on the economy than hillary clinton ever did
Starting point is 00:30:20 who was seen as a corporate lackey and she never did anything in her campaign or at least not enough to dispel that notion. And for goodness sake, what are you doing giving speeches to Goldman Sachs before you run for president? You give them to Goldman Sachs after you run for president, like Barack Obama does. I have a theory that WikiLeaks helped her. For people like me, when I heard that she was actually not really this left-wing crazy, but that she was just kind of pretending to be, but actually
Starting point is 00:30:47 in private she was more moderate, I was more ready to vote for her. Oh, that's funny. I like Wiki Hillary. This business about studies showing that racists were more likely to vote for Trump. At least what maybe you have better poll questions
Starting point is 00:31:03 of that, but I would like to see how the question of racism is determined, because at least the polls shown on MSNBC, one of the questions determining racism was, do you think, who has more criminal propensities in the black community or white community? Well, I'm sorry, we can look at, that's just, who's willing to lie more? Perhaps. If that's what your question is, determining racism. So Republicans are slightly less likely to lie. I mean, that perhaps would be so. And there are certainly Democrats who are racist as well.
Starting point is 00:31:39 We know that from surveys going back for a while, although I have not delved into the new numbers to see the exact differences uh... between democrats and republicans on this battery of questions one of which may be the question that you mentioned another of which may be do you like living in neighborhoods you know where the do you feel comfortable living in neighborhoods where there are black people questions like that you know they're not gonna flat out ask
Starting point is 00:32:01 a by the way the elect yet like black people are now you know most people are figure that one out or do you want a black president not there these battery of questions that they ask and they're certainly not perfect but aggregated together I do think that they give you an image of what's going on and the fact that we saw a much higher correlation with the vote and those questions
Starting point is 00:32:21 in this election them say we saw in 2012 makes me less likely to dismiss them but again i just go back to the point overall most of the people who voted for donald trump were not racist at least not in the way that we commonly understand that word we don't know that as a fact all right can i make one more observation about call me assuming uh you know he's very tall this is this big uh in in the last days, people have been really trying to figure out whether what he did was justifiable or not. And it becomes difficult to do it because it's hard to keep out of your mind what you know in retrospect. That it turned out to be nothing. That they were able to go through the emails in time.
Starting point is 00:33:03 That they actually could have given us an answer. All these kind of things. And I go back and forth on it too. But in that electrical circuit that had to be completed for this all to blow up against Hillary, there's Comey's actions which are quite debatable.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I mean, he was in a position and maybe he made the wrong call and maybe he made the wrong call maybe he had the right call but there was another part of that circuit which also if it hadn't happened the circuit would not have been which was Bill Clinton's decision to go on that airplane
Starting point is 00:33:34 and speak to the Attorney General and without that the whole thing and there's no debating that that was clearly 100% nobody can defend it and that is the unambiguous thing in that circuit, which should not have
Starting point is 00:33:48 happened. So he is to blame. Call me, who knows? And without that, call me when I'm in that situation. I just think Harry's right about this. All these things, I mean, if we didn't know the results of the election, and you think of the Access Hollywood tape, and still that guy
Starting point is 00:34:04 on the Access Hollywood tape. And still, that guy on the Access Hollywood tape won those unbelievably bad debate performances. I mean, I thought it was the, I didn't think it was over with the Access Hollywood tape. I thought it was over with the first debate and not my way. And I just think we are people who care about the Comey letter or even know about the
Starting point is 00:34:20 Comey letter or the Bill Clinton thing. I think her not going to Wisconsin and calling most Americansicans are half of americans deplorable zand she's just so stiff and i know i think it was her we get the numbers that republicans lie less i'm saying that i don't believe polls that that determine uh... poll questions are determining all these races out there that get that you can say i don't raise a spot for
Starting point is 00:34:44 trial she can do it on the basis of questions like, are blacks more criminal than whites? Well, and I got to say, like about, I would say three to four months before the election, I was going out with her a lot for some of her talks. And that's when I started to switch my mind because, idiot that I am am I would literally have talks with Ann where I'm like so you know after Trump loses what what's your goal then like what idiot moron that I am and I would start I like I just I like but then when I started going on talks with her and they were not racist these are people that voted for Obama they're at her book talks. They're talking to her. They are so anti-Hillary for a myriad of reasons.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Mostly pro-Trump, though. Yeah, completely. Anti-Bush. And I started to watch them like, holy shit, I'm an idiot. And this could happen. And I, and then more and more, it became very, because again, I wasn't in my dumb New York bubble
Starting point is 00:35:44 and saw the rest of the nation a little bit and it became very apparent to me that what she had called from the beginning was going to happen and across the board i want to i will i think will's upset that's why i just want to explain you think things i'm upset from what you're not upset no okay then i don't have to make me upset i i i i i think just to be clear to explain it so nobody takes it the wrong way if there's a question like who's more likely we know the statistics are that there's much more crime in the in the minority communities we know this this is why we feel we need programs unless you watch forensic files this is why listen listen this is this is kind
Starting point is 00:36:25 of you can't have it both ways if there is no uh higher level of social problems within the minority community then the minority community doesn't need any special attention you can't both simultaneously say we need special attention but don't tell us we have worse problems they have worse problems and if they ask these kind of things in a poll question democrats will pretend no there's no worse problem if you go deeper than that the reason why they have more problems than minority because of the situation at hand whether is we're not getting the jobs we're treating being treated absolutely i'm just saying a lot of liberals will even deny they would say no no white people white
Starting point is 00:37:02 people commit just as much crime as black people. They'll say that with a straight face when everybody knows that's not true. That's not a knock on black people. That's why black communities need help. That's why we have programs. That's why we want to help. The majority of any race are not criminal. But there is a larger criminal element in the black community than there is in the white community, and there is zero, basically, in the Asian community. But that's zero, basically, in the Asian community. But that's just a percentage of within the community. That's mostly because Asians are boring. I will agree with that.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I don't want to upset you, Will. He looks fine. No, no. You think he looks... Well, you know how I'm very sensitive to people. I know Will. You're a sensitive man. You're a beautiful man.
Starting point is 00:37:43 All right. And you'll be running for political office. I just want to point out, you know, bringing back the race element to this election, I think one of the things that was most surprising to any number of people who were, you know, who heard Donald Trump speak or heard the way that cable news described him to speak, was that Donald Trump did significantly better, at least on the margins, than Mitt Romney did among African-American voters. And Hispanics. speak was that donald trump did significantly better at least on the margins the mit romney did among african-american voters and hispanics and in my opinion and now this is there's some
Starting point is 00:38:10 debate about this i do believe he probably did do better among hispanics than romney did though there is some debate in my opinion though it is fairly clear that you can say he did no worse he did no worse and in certain communities of Hispanics, he did better, especially lower income, lower education communities. He certainly did better than Mitt Romney did. And I think that's a whole element that kind of got missed, that people were hearing Donald Trump saying, oh, you know, he's saying all this stuff. The minority is going to come out and they're going to vote against him. Didn't happen. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Didn't happen. They were not as offended as I think a lot of white, well-educated liberals in this borough expected or thought. I've seen that a million times. I spent my Christmases in Palm Beach with the plutocrats, and I was there 2015 when Trump had just been crushing, crushing, crushing in the polls. And I was going around to Christmas parties. I think you met this guy. We've been to a party at his house.
Starting point is 00:39:00 But I will not reveal his name. You'd know his name. He kept going up to people at Christmasmas parties in palm beach two thousand fifteen dumbstruck as they've given so much money the plutocrats and saying i just i don't understand it all of us were for jab and all the hispanic helpers for trump well what you should be that too
Starting point is 00:39:20 they want their wages to go up i i i think that there was a well i think there were a few things that were going on in this election. I think education was one of the largest drivers of vote and shifts of votes, more so than we've pretty much seen in our lifetimes, at least, you know, well-educated white people who were attending these, you know, Republican caucus things or, you know, Republican primaries were big fans of Jeb Bush. And then everyone who didn't have a college education simply wasn't. And that went across races as well. That was something that went across. I mean, if you go, for instance, into Texas, right,
Starting point is 00:40:03 what you see is a tremendous difference in the counties which had large numbers of Hispanics who did not have a college degree versus those counties that had a large number of Hispanics with college degrees. And Donald Trump spoke to these people in a way that Hillary Clinton simply did not, or at least in relationship to Mitt Romney. He connected. He connected. He connected. He connected.
Starting point is 00:40:26 He connected with people. And, you know, more than that, one of the things that I think gets underplayed here, the Democrats were in the White House for eight years. We normally see a change, especially when you don't have an incumbent running. There's going to be, you know, Donald Trump, if you look at the academic stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:40:45 Donald Trump performed about as well as you would expect a normal republican to perform in these situations the interesting thing to me though is how the coalition's change and how much more lined up among education levels how much more lined up among h left and is that permanent and is that what i don't tend to think that is a permanent a great question i don't tend to think that politics is permanent i'm gonna be very interested to see what occurs in 2018.
Starting point is 00:41:07 But we already have one test of a special election down in Georgia where they broke down the precinct-level results, and what we saw was a very high correlation to the presidential vote in 2016 and not so much in 2012, which to me, at least so far, suggests that, in fact, we are seeing continuation of that. All right. Two more issues, and then we're done. me at least so far suggests that in fact we are seeing continuation of that two more issues and then we're done the wall why do people avoid what are we talking about why do people oppose the wall because they think it won't work or
Starting point is 00:41:37 because they think it will work which one didn't go because they think it will because they think it will I won't work it will. It won't work. You think it's going to stop Mexicans or immigrants or anybody? It works in Israel. It works in China. It works at the White House. I just think it's crazy, this idea that walls don't work. As I've said, it's like saying wheels don't work because they can punch a hole.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Buckets don't work. Water can spill out on top. It's better than nothing. Berlin might argue with that. It works quite well, actually. They were just trying to keep people in as opposed to keep people out.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Oh, no, the Berlin Wall worked fantastically well. I just look at the 40% of the illegals that come here. They do it by flying. And they stay here longer. Yeah, the 40%. No, it isn't.
Starting point is 00:42:22 They undercount illegal aliens. There are 40 million at least illegal aliens. I just think in the 40%. No, it isn't. They undercount illegal aliens. There are 40 million at least illegal aliens. I just think in the 21st century, I don't understand how the wall's going to work. The point is for people like Rubio to act like it has nothing to do with Latin America. No, it's mostly from Mexico. So let me make a counterintuitive point. Let's say I believed, as you did, that they don't even come over the border. But I want to get an immigration bill passed.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I want to get amnesty or whatever it is. I'm like, let them build their frigging wall. Because they're never going to agree to any immigration reform unless there's a wall. Not going to happen. So I'm a Democrat. I'm like, let them build their frigging wall. Let them waste their money and it's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And in return, let's get our immigration bill through. Isn't that the smart move? Right. Whenever they say it just won't work, it's always because they know it'll work very well. Otherwise, why are you terribly opposing? She's saying it'll work, but she's saying the wall in China and the wall in Israel.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Are people trying to get into China? They sure are. We're at one point at least. They'll hire me. I'm there. They're trying to get into Israel. People are trying to get into the United States. Israel had a huge illegal immigration problem. Like we do.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Pouring in from Africa. Worse for the population and it went down and the New York Times bragged about it. They built the wall. You're against the wall or you're for the wall?
Starting point is 00:43:34 No, it's just all, it's just all, I thought Bobby Kelly's show was boring. This is fucking, this is like a, this is miraculous. I just had a cup of coffee
Starting point is 00:43:42 and I'm fucking nodding off. It's all, it's all fucking nodding off. It's all fucking numbers and bullshit. This is why I don't watch CNN. Because it's just all your take, your numbers, my numbers. I'm on Will's side finally. For the first time in three years.
Starting point is 00:43:58 But you don't know if the wall is going to work. You don't know anything. You don't really know anything about anything. It's all conjecture about Trump. President Biden. Nobody likes Hillary. That's why she lost nobody likes her her husband don't even like her so they're gonna go for her for president yeah i mean it's ridiculous didn't i didn't i bet you that trump didn't i bet you i lost i was anti hillary the whole time i'm a democrat i knew she would never win but i i won a couple of bets, but I thought that Hillary was going to lose. I lost $300 to Kevin
Starting point is 00:44:27 Brennan on a Trump bet. But that's because I listened to what the media said. They said that it had to be a brokered convention. The numbers remember some of the numbers? John Kasich? Come on, man. Who added up the numbers? This is a closet thing I was telling you about.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And I feel like Kevin doesn't watch the news. I do. This is an unfair bet. I'm going to take it because the numbers don't add up. He doesn't even know that. I don't listen to the bullshit. My ear is on the street. They go to people in the streets.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I'm like fucking Kojak. They go to people in the streets and say, hey, who are you going to vote for, Hillary or Trump? People in the streets will look at Hillary. Okay, thank you. No, then that motherfucker goes in the booth Clothes a little curtain And people lied They lied when they polled for Brexit
Starting point is 00:45:09 They lied So of course they're going to lie this time too And polling doesn't work like it used to Because people don't answer their phone And the people that have landline are old white people So the polling is inaccurate Forever Harry, you guys should get every...
Starting point is 00:45:25 Poor Harry's in pain right now. That is true. I just don't know whether or not I want to be your friend. Because if I want to be your friend, then I'll keep quiet. But I'll say a few things. Number one... No, you don't want to be his friend. He'll get some polls on whether or not he's going to get some friends here.
Starting point is 00:45:43 He'll just betray you and disappoint you. It's a contested convention, not a brokered convention there are no more brokers sorry sorry please please please contested convention um we could go through we in fact ran a our own survey of experts before uh when i think it was right around the wisconsin primary and i think we had trump either just above or just below the magic 1237 delegates. But what ended up happening, which was unforeseen, I think, by a lot of people, was that he went on a winning streak. I saw it. You did see it.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I was calling it all along when they said Cruz was going to win when he was winning a couple of states in the South. I'm like, Cruz has no, he's going to lose all this momentum. Did I pay you? Yes, barely. Liz had to get all this momentum. Did I pay you? Yes, barely. Liz had to get it from you. But I paid you. Most people don't pay their best.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Try betting Will something, see if you can pay him. I pay all my debts. I have no debts. Will pays back in food. I pay my college loans. He's a better man than me. I have no college loans.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I paid all my debts. How do you feel about that? I believe you will. And what was the last thing? Oh, healthcare. Hold on, hold on, hold on. He's defending his profession. I'm not actually a pollster. I've never conducted a poll. I merely
Starting point is 00:46:51 judge the polls. He's not your target audience. Believe me, Harry. Well, I understand that, but I just want to get it on the record. The final polling average nationally had Hillary Clinton ahead by anywhere from three to four points, depending on what average you took. Same with Brexit. She won the national popular vote by two percentage points.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Now, we don't elect our presidents that way, but it is an accuracy measure for polls. And on that one, it was well in line with the average, what was going forward. In Brexit, the polls were very, very tight. It did underestimate the leave side, no doubt about it. But again, it was within the historical range. I think what's going on here, in all honesty, is that people expect far too much of polling. This, we're calling 500 to 1,000 people. We're not polling every single freaking person.
Starting point is 00:47:34 These aren't golden tickets. This is the reason we vote. Otherwise, we just have polling. I think you're right. I think no one believes in it. Why even poll anymore? Mike Silver's not. He was way off, too.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Everybody's off. So why even bother? I agree. So we got to move on. Hold on. Sorry, sorry. Our particular website, and you should know that I, in fact, that Nathaniel and I work for the same website.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Nathaniel. Nathaniel. Nathaniel Reed Silver. We had Trump's odds at 29% to win the election. No, you didn't. Yes, we did. Yeah, they did. They were attacked.
Starting point is 00:48:07 That morning? That morning. I thought they were like at 20. No, we were at 29. Maybe you get your news from the New York Times and the Upshot, which had them at 15, which is about half that. And 29% of things happen all the time. I mean, Keith Hernandez's batting average over his career was something like 297.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Keith Hernandez got many base hits in the National League. You guys need to announce your poll results in terms of dice. Like you say, Trump has a better chance of winning than rolling double sixes. When people hear that, they're like, oh shit, I roll double sixes all the time. He might actually win. They don't know how to process the numbers.
Starting point is 00:48:42 They need something in their own lives to put like 29% in perspective. I think you're 100% correct, and I will absolutely say it. How many people roll dice every day? Who hasn't had a friend who rolled double sixes on the last turn in backgammon or something? It happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Sometimes two or three double sixes in a row. And when you have that experience, it's like, oh shit, he could really win. And in fairness, Keith Hernandez' batting average in getting pussy? 500, at least. At least 500. Let's talk about stats that matter. Healthcare. Anybody have anything on healthcare, Kevin?
Starting point is 00:49:13 I think being black is a pre-existing health condition. That's true. I think it's... You're for it? You're against it? I'm both. I'm for it and against it is that the word on the streets
Starting point is 00:49:27 no it's like the one side the one side is bad and the other side is bad it covers anger management by the way no I'm seriously like if you
Starting point is 00:49:33 isn't that pre-existing health the Democrats are too extreme and the Republicans both both things are too extreme one side or the other
Starting point is 00:49:41 they both don't poll I've seen you know they don't poll particularly well. Obamacare didn't poll well when it was first introduced. If you ask people right now what you'd want to do, a number of people say repeal. And this American Health Care Act doesn't poll particularly well either. It's almost as if the American people are just pissed off.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And do you believe that nobody should, through the misfortune of their lives, not be able to get good health care? Oh, of course not. We're not going to let anybody die. No, it's not that. People go bankrupt when they get sick. That's the problem. Do you believe anybody should go bankrupt? The Republicans don't have a problem with that.
Starting point is 00:50:15 They really don't have a problem with that. That's why I'm asking Anne. No, of course no one is going to let anyone, bad lottery in life, you get a disease, whatever that is that is what the issue is need to separate the welfare cases from people who can pay for their own health insurance and that's the problem we are paying for this form of welfare through our health insurance premiums
Starting point is 00:50:36 no just separate i think they shouldn't repeal obama care they should just have have a simple one sentence uh... line saying there should be a free market in health insurance in America. And then I could buy health insurance I want to buy the same way I can buy car insurance, flood insurance. I don't need earthquake insurance if I'm not in California. I don't need tornado insurance if I'm not in the Midwest. I don't need hurricane insurance if I'm not in Florida. So why am I forced to pay for it?
Starting point is 00:51:02 And why do I have to pay the same amount as Warren Buffettett the way we distribute welfare in america is by clout taxing through an income tax of warren buffett pays a whole lot more than i do it goes to the fund in washington and that pays for everyone that's the problem with obama care we pay for for a well for prepare program through our insurance premiums which means nobody can get health insurance happens when the the marketplace will not function as it ought to rationally because kids from 18 to 30 think they're never gonna get say would if it were a free market right
Starting point is 00:51:37 now then yes it would be $30 a month maybe for $30 a month they would yes they would and we know what it costs because there's a carve out from Obamacare. If you're a religious group, so there are all these Christian groups offering, you're not allowed to call it health insurance, but it's health insurance. And even right now with a very limited pool, I have it. It's $50 a month, and it covers everything, not pregnancy, not psychological counseling, not prenatal care, not gambling addiction therapy,
Starting point is 00:52:03 not the 18 things I am forced to pay for issue if I buy insurance that is made my insurance was made illegal by Obamacare so now I pay also pay $700 a month and my insurance plan won't let me go to Sloan Kettering if I get cancer won't let me go to the hospital of special surgery let us who can afford it buy it on the private market the same way you buy microphones and beer and shoes and flat screen TVs. It lowers the price. The product gets better. And we will always take care of the welfare cases.
Starting point is 00:52:33 We just shouldn't be forcing me to pay for it. Yeah, but you're just saying that. They don't take – first of all, before Obamacare, the insurance companies did whatever the fuck they wanted to. So if all of a sudden they didn't want to pay it, that you just, they just wouldn't pay it. And then I've had situations where they say, uh, they said,
Starting point is 00:52:49 we're not going to pay this. And I said, well, they said, you can, you can appeal it. I said to who they go to us. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I go, you just, you just shot me down. You fucking cunts. No offense. But I'm like, I'm like, are you guys,
Starting point is 00:53:00 are you guys serious with this? Appeal it to the people that just shot me down. It's like getting arrested and then have the cops, you appeal to the cops. Right. It has to be separate, and it wasn't. So they would let you go bankrupt, preexisting. They would have all kinds of bullshit. So basically, Obamacare was like, you can't do this.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Like, if your kid was sick, they would drop people from the insurance plan because it was too expensive. There was a comedians association, and they actually got a letter saying we discontinued it because a lot of comedians were alcoholics and getting AIDS and it's like I know we're terrible people so they just they just they just just discontinued I don't know if Nate Silver thinks about this but they just discontinued it because they didn't want to fucking pay it anymore they were it's they're in for profit they want us they want to pay out the least amount of money to the least amount of people. Like me. And that's a dangerous situation.
Starting point is 00:53:47 No, but that's the same way it is. And what I'm suggesting isn't the prior system. Those were regulated by state insurance commissions. And badly. And very badly. No, it was very bad. But look, you can say the same thing for, I don't know, anything you get.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Your bottled water. They're trying to make a profit. Yeah, but it's not life and death and bankruptcy. People get sick, they go bankrupt. Your food. If you couldn't buy food, we're so used to living under. They pay 20%, or they pay 80%, and then you're responsible for the rest, or they're capped. They pay 80%, you pay 20%, and then they're capped on how much you pay.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Then you're in debt for the rest, for the rest of your life. This is like trying to explain to an old Soviet woman, circa 1988, how she will get bread if the government doesn't provide it. You are describing a socialist system when every other product we get, it is for profit and the price keeps coming down. The flat screen TV manufacturers, food manufacturers, you die without water, you die without food. Why, when you go into a grocery store in America, are there 18 varieties of orange juice, and in the Soviet Union, they couldn't produce bread? Because the government, as the old insurance system worked, they were the ones regulating it and deciding it. No, they were making a lot of money, the insurance companies, on your eyes is in the hundreds of dollars. Right. It's on the free market. Cosmetic surgery is very cheap, but if you need appendicitis,
Starting point is 00:55:11 it's going to cost a fortune. But they've ruined the market for everyone because of the hard cases. Who's they? They, first... White people. Well, first... Yeah, the Jews. First...
Starting point is 00:55:20 The Jews. This is how you get in trouble. By the way, you once said that Jews can't go to heaven. Oh, I did not say that. But wait, you said it to Donnie George or something like that. I thought that was a poem. You got in big trouble for it. And I'm like, of course,
Starting point is 00:55:34 of course. And you said, that's what Christians believe, that Jews are not perfected or whatever it was that you said. I thought it was terrible. I thought you guys had your own heaven, your better heaven. Better furniture. We know Christians believe that we're not baptized and there's some consequence to that
Starting point is 00:55:50 or some Christians believe that. That's not hate speech. Anyway. Just start celebrating Christmas. Everything will change. I don't know why you guys are holding out on Christmas. It's a good holiday. Jesus brought a Christmas tree.
Starting point is 00:56:00 It's just a good holiday. We're about out of time unless somebody has something... I'm burning... My real question is why do you know so much about cosmetic surgery, Noam? He's gorgeous. Of course he does. Look at him. How can you ask that?
Starting point is 00:56:13 Because I read. He looks like an old craggly Jew. You were looking at me when you said that. Get him, Kevin. Get him. Now you like him. I see his point a little bit. Kevin kind of looks like a skinnier, better looking version of Jim Tomei,
Starting point is 00:56:29 the former first baseman in Major League Baseball. Jim Tomei. What was his lifetime home run total? Well into 500. He's into 500. I just want to know if you knew exactly, because I do. 533, I don't know. I'll say 523.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Is it 523? I don't know. I'm guessing. I'm now looking this up. Hold on. Let's see what Jim know. Don't say 5.23. Is it 5.23? I don't know. I'm guessing. I'm now looking this up. Hold on. Let's see what Jim Tomei's home run. People ask me all the time. I say, I know Ann Coulter.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I love Ann Coulter. They're like, does she really believe everything that she says? Yeah, I want to know that too. And I'm always like, of course she does. She absolutely believes. I've never detected any hedging in private or in public about what she believes. Correct? My friends from summer camp always want to write in and say, no, no, she'd run up to me on the camping trail.
Starting point is 00:57:14 She's always been like this. No, I don't know why liberals find that such a comforting thought. So me acting, I can still beat your ass in a debate? That's kind of pathetic if you're just up against someone who's making it all up. And we did it. What was the feminism? What was the debate?
Starting point is 00:57:33 Is conservatism possible? Best debate ever. And wipe the floor with everybody. And people who were, you know, not predisposed to agree with Ann were leaving saying, I hate to say this, but I kind of agreed with Ann Coulter.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Oh, I love you. I think I told you before you did that that she was going to destroy that. Oh, I love you both. It's very hard. That's why I met Harry here. There was blood on the tracks. I came up to Harry after the reception,
Starting point is 00:58:02 and in Trump we trust E Pluribus Awesome hadn't come out yet. And I said, oh, I quote you in my next book. I have a genius's appendix. And he knew exactly what the quote was. I mean, I have had many dumb quotes in my day. You know, I tell you this much. You gave him a lot tonight.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yeah, right. I quoted everyone saying that Trump had no chance of becoming the nominee. And there was one where he said he had a better chance of playing the next, having a cameo in Home Alone. Home Alone, the next Home Alone. He had a better chance of winning the NBA finals than becoming the nominee. There are any number of hilarious quotes that I completely stand by because we're in actually Earth 37 right now and back on Earth 1,
Starting point is 00:58:43 which is, that's where my quotes apply, damn it. So you guys want to plug your, what is it, Stephen? You have a question, come on. Oh, there's a question. Real quick,
Starting point is 00:58:52 and this is directed to the panel, but especially Anne, why do you think that most comedians are left of center? Well, I'll defer to the comedians on this, but I would think
Starting point is 00:59:02 it's because they're in places like New York City. And as Kevin just indicated, he's bored with the details. No, it's easier to get laid if you're left of center. But why are the girls? 99% of women in Manhattan are left of center. So it's easier to get laid. I was left of center.
Starting point is 00:59:22 I dated a lesbian. Now I'm married. My wife's blackish. I'm in the middle. I think both sides are ridiculous. If I was out single, I'd be back to left of center. After a while, you need to get laid.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Just like you gotta eat. But Bill O'Reilly did it. Yeah, I was gonna say, that wasn't the experience at Fox News. Yeah, but he won. That's why they recruited these women from wherever, some colony. And then they'd have to play nice with him. So I'm saying if you want to be super rich, Bill Schultz actually is a liberal,
Starting point is 00:59:57 and every one of his girlfriends has been a right-winger. So I do not think he's on TV. I think you're talking about the 60s. I think he's on Fox up from osmosis. It's easy to meet women now online. I'm saying back in the day. I think comedians, not the black ones so much, but I think the non-black comedians are more centrist actually
Starting point is 01:00:16 than their demographic profile would predict. Age, all that. I'll say two things. One on the dating front, one on the comedian front. On the dating front, look, it's all about getting the biggest pool possible. And if you yourself are a conservative male in New York City or any of the
Starting point is 01:00:32 major metropolitan areas these days, you shrink your pool considerably among younger women. It's just a fact. And then the other thing in terms of comedians... Didn't I just say that? Yes. Not nearly as clearly. Yes, but he said statistically. Your pool of women? statistically. Your pool of women?
Starting point is 01:00:46 What? Your pool of women, your potential dating clients. I have zero in my pool. Zero? Well, we'll talk afterwards and get you some help. I know some people. Now, in terms of comedians, I think we have to be very careful in what we define as left-wing, right-wing, centrist, right? I think that comedians are much more free speech than a lot of the people who are parading around and calling themselves liberal these days.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Perhaps they believe in gay marriage. Perhaps they believe in abortion rights. But they certainly do not agree with the idea that we should keep people quiet whose views we disagree with. And I think that's going to be one of the more interesting things going forward I distance myself personally from I from anyone who just will shut themselves off to alternative ideas I update anybody whether the liberal conservative moderate as long as they're not a racist or you know don't believe Adolf Hitler was the greatest person of all time I could go on a date with them but the fact is I can't go on a date with you if I say oh I'm gonna go hang
Starting point is 01:01:42 out with somebody say oh oh no, ew, oh, no way. The worst person ever. That's probably why I have a shitty date. Do you say that before you come or after you come? I mean, you know, that's two different persons. Well, that's part of the reason why I've learned to try and stay away from that whole thing because I've gotten myself into relationships where I just go, Oh,
Starting point is 01:02:07 I don't want to hang out with you again. And then it's like, I'll meet you at your apartment. It's like, Hey, no, not too bad. I like that.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Pretty decent. We can all agree on that. We've all been there. All right. Anybody else? Okay. So you want to, you want to,
Starting point is 01:02:19 your, your Twitter, your, your, your podcast, Kevin, Brendan, six,
Starting point is 01:02:22 six, six at Twitter. And, um, I'll be in a stone Harbor, New Jersey, May 20th. And then I'll be here this weekend. At Comedy Cellar. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Will Silvens, Will1LSYLVINCE. My film festival is happening right now. Submissions, anybody want to submit to my film festival? NBC Short Film Festival. This is our 12th annual film festival. So any filmmakers, you have until May 15th to submit your film.
Starting point is 01:02:50 And also the Comedy Cellar needs to thank Will Silvins for this juggernaut of a show, which was his idea and he runs Thursday night. Monday nights and Thursday nights. Monday and Thursday, New Joke Night.
Starting point is 01:03:00 New Joke Night, basically comics, leave the script alone and just come out and just come up with new jokes off their books, their phones, whatever. But you kind of quarterback it
Starting point is 01:03:09 and pull the string. It's fantastic. And your book? I have nothing. I have a Twitter feed, at Ann Coulter. At Ann Coulter. May 20th,
Starting point is 01:03:17 that'll be right around the time that I have my will-be-brilliant profile unknown for entrepreneur. Award-winning, I hear. Well well yeah uh nobel peace prize basically pilots are all that stuff but harry enton at forecast at forecaster e n t e n on the twitter dial and you can contact me there if i sound interesting to you harry by the way answers almost all his tweets and his emails. I've seen that.
Starting point is 01:03:46 It's needy. I have no life. Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you. Thank you very much, Anne. Thank you. Good night, everybody.

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