The Comedy Cellar: Live from the Table - Charlie Kirk, Trump and Pro-Israel Conservatives with Daniella Bloom

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

Noam Dworman, Dan Naturman and Periel Aschenbrand are joined by Daniella Bloom to discuss her journey from Democrat to conservative, the rise of anti-Israel sentiment, Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, free speech, Trump, antisemitism and the future of the conservative movement. Daniella Bloom is a former California Democrat, a psychotherapist, keynote speaker, producer and on-air commentator. She appears regularly on Fox News and is the #1 bestselling author of the Under the Tree series.  www.DaniellaBloom.com CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 01:14 New York, Israel, and Changing Political Culture 06:44 From California Democrat to Jewish Patriot 11:43 The Rise of Anti-Israel Voices on the Right 23:52 Daniella Bloom's Charlie Kirk Controversy 31:33 Free Speech, Tucker Carlson, and Conservative Media 40:14 The Digital War and Social Media Influence 44:04 Why Daniella Supports Trump 45:50 Iran, Israel, and American Foreign Policy 49:19 The Future of Gen Z and the Conservative Movement

I have one. This is live from the table, the official podcast of the World Famous Comedy Seller, available wherever you get your podcast. Dan Natterman here, a comedy seller comedian for how long, I don't know. Also here with Noam Dorm, and owner of the World Famous Comedy Seller, with locations in New York's Greenwich Village and Las Vegas, Nevada. Perry Al-Lash and Brand joins us, as always. Hello.

And in studio, Dan. Danielle Bloom is with us, a former California Democrat turned proud Jewish patriot and bridge builder. She's the author of the bestselling Under the Tree series, including the book, The World Where I Belong, a Quest for Freedom, a wake-up call to the child, the family, and the nation. She joins us, and we always like it when a guest is. I mean, Zoom is okay, but we prefer in person. Agreed. I don't like Zoom at all. Zoom is not so bad, but it's better than when we first started doing Zooms.

and we had a lot of like, you know, the image would freeze. Oh, that was horrible. Yeah, there's less technical problems now. But anyway, so welcome, Daniela. Thank you. Before we started, we were talking about, you haven't been here since Giuliani was mayor. Yeah. And boy, things have changed.

Oh, yes. When Giuliani was mayor, I guess it was after 9-11, he did something where he threw. He said Arafat couldn't come or something like he made something. Or he wouldn't take, what was it? You know, I was, I think he wouldn't take money. After 9-11, yeah, after 9-11, I think, Arafat was going to give the city money. Was it Arafat?

But I think it was after 9-11. It was something like that. 9-11 related. Why would Arafat, first of all, he wasn't involved in 9-11? Like, it was just such a, it was such a, like, a point of view. And now we are 180 degrees from that. Come a little closer to the mic, if you can. We were 180 degrees from that where it would not surprise me if our mayor, whatever it was that we can't remember that Giuliani did to Arafat, I believe our current mayor would do happily to Netanyahu and maybe lock them up if he could.

Right. Yes, we are 180 from there. Yeah, that's, in not a long time. A quarter century, you know, fairly long time. Quarter century went from, you know, horseback to, you know, powered flight and teleph- I mean, you know, electricity, a lot can happen. In two years, if it's right at the line of it. I guess so. But, yeah, no, the quarter century is relatively quickly to, it seems to me. Anyway, whatever.

Do you hear the call to prayer now in some parts of New York? Is that really a thing now? Do I hear what? The call to prayer. Oh, the call to prayer. Well, I don't know that that's new. I mean, there have been mosques here for a long time. I don't, the call to prayer is, that to me is America.

Like, I have zero problem more than that. I think it's nice. I mean, that's what America's supposed to be, is freedom of religion. Yeah. I just, when it's in your face, I feel like, you know, in California, I don't know if it's how like this across the nation, but in California, there was a huge shift in getting church bells to stop ringing because it offended the people who didn't believe in God. And I think that's terrible.

So I think as long as everyone can practice equally, yes. that's the most important. But would you give some extra latitude for a more long-standing tradition such as church bells as opposed to the muazin, is it called? The muazin? I don't even, to be honest, I don't even like the conversation. I have no problem with the call to prayer at all. I have a problem with what they might be praying for if it's, you know, the destruction of

Israel and, you know, eggs and pigs and all that stuff. We're seeing videos of call to prayer in open streets in front of Jewish synagogues and schools, not just in a mosque. I'm surprised here you say that, Noam, because you've come out in favor of the Ten Commandments, I think, in schools, which is very much not inclusive of all religions. What I said, what Dan, what I said was that when they want to have the Ten Commandments, like in the South, they want to have Ten Commandments. I don't have a problem with that in the schools.

I don't think it's exclusive or excluding. But, you know, there is, I guess we'll talk to her. But I understand it might not be constitutionally kosher or halal. And I understand that a national Christmas tree is probably not to be allowed either, Christmas is, after all, a religious holiday. But I think that for the people who can't understand morality as anything other than something that comes from religion, for them say, thou shalt not kill. I mean, liberals get to do the same stuff and put whatever they want on there.

As long as it does it, God forbid, as long as it, they don't believe it's actually universal law. As long as they can think they just conjured it up on their own, they deduced it. they can put it on the wall. But if, you know, religious people want to, you know, so that doesn't bother me at all. I'm not calling for it in New York. I don't want it in my kids' schools, but I have no problem with it.

But anyway, the call to prayer, you know, I don't, anyway. I didn't mind when they were going to build a mosque at ground zero. Yeah. And I had, I mean, what I think you're alluding to is if it's being done Daphka has, if it's done spitefully. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Then I take it in the spirit that has.

Then it's crossing that line. Yeah, yeah. And if they're actually setting out in the morning, let's go over to the synagogue and do it. That's not the call of prayer. It's what, it could be anything that they're saying. I look at it as sort of audio zoning, you know, just as we wouldn't want a building that we don't like. There might be a case to be made for a very, let me tell you people something. Go ahead.

If these, if Islam, let's say, was like the Baha'i or something and was extremely pro, Jewish or pro-Israel, you'd be loving that call to prayer. You'd be all about the call to prayer and be happy for our friends to be able to have their call to prayer. That's my point. We have to have universal principles. Anyway, anyway, so you're also a psychotherapist? Yeah. And you see patients in Israel? Well, I'm from L.A. I do see clients, but I've kind of shifted towards advocacy. Oh, you said she hasn't been in New York. She's in L.A.? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. What do you mean 25 years? I just assume she's in Israel. I read her in the Times of Israel. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead.

I do write for the Times of Israel, but I'm living in La La Land in Los Angeles. But I am half Israeli. My dad's Israeli. Can you be half Israeli? You can. Hatsi, Chatsi, absolutely. Do you want-Israeli is a nationality. Israeli is a nationality and not an ethnicity. Well, but it's all, you know, you get your culture, you get language, you get food. It's an influence. It's not an American Ashkenazi influence, that's for sure.

I'm half Israeli. I'm full of Israeli. Yeah. Both my parents is valid. Go ahead. Go ahead. So, yeah. By the way, my book actually does have the Ten Commandments in it because, you know, listen, our country was founded on Judeo-Christian values. And, you know, Islam still recognizes to some extent that Moses and Jesus existed. These are the monotheistic religion. And Abraham is their patriarchal.

Exactly. So I don't, I think it's great to remind people what the Ten Commandments are. It's back to basics, and we've lost a lot of our basics in this country. Now, what's the Judeo and Judeo-Christian? In other words, if you said, if somebody would come out and say our country is based on Christian values, and you said, no, it's based on Judeo-Christian, what would be the difference? Well, you can't have Christian values without Judeo-Christian values. You can't have the Second Testament without the Torah.

I have so many wonderful Christian friends, and I've been losing so much about their scripture. You like them as much as your Jewish friends? I can I say many cases? Yes. Even more than, yes. I believe the Christian Zionists. I believe more than the Israeli friends, I believe. Well, no, I mean, listen, when you have a Christian Zionist understanding that Israel has a right to exist and defend itself and you have to yell at a pro-Palestinian Jew who is culturally affiliated who knows nothing about the conflict and they're screaming genocide, yeah, I tend to like my Christian Zionist friends. By the way, a lot of them, a lot of them, let's just say, we're going to, we're going to dance around here.

A lot of them know a lot about the conflict, and they're still saying this ridiculous stuff. Well, they know a lot. They know a lot by what they're told on. Some of them are quite learned. I'm like, I'm saying it's even worse than that. They're sick in the head. You can learn. I just, I wish it was only like, oh, I didn't know that.

Now that you show me that, I realize I was wrong. No, it doesn't matter what you show them. Doesn't matter what they learned. Yes. Because it's an emotional reaction. I actually, yeah, I actually have a different term. People use the term self-hating Jew all the time, which I don't think is fitting because you talk to one of these Jews, I don't hate Jews. I love Seinfeld and bagels. I love my Jewish

culture. I call them the forsaken apologist because they've forsaken something sacred, something they really don't know much about. They're not usually affiliated with their religion and their people and their ethno, the ethno religion in our country, Israel, in order to apologize to be accepted by the other. And I think that's a lot more fitting. People like to be accepted. They like the attention. and they maybe have unresolved issues. Maybe they had a bad experience with a parent. So this is an indirect way to, like, get back at them, and if you will, there's a psychology behind it.

But it's tough. It's tough. You know, I say, with Jews like these, who needs anti-Semites? Because when it's the as-a-Jew crowd. When you're with your non-Jewish friends, you're watching TV, say they're at your apartment. Yeah. And something comes on the news. Okay, indictment handed down, extortion, you know,

And you're like, please no, please no. Hiram Goldfar. Jeffrey Epstein. And Harvey Weinstein. Bernie made off. You say to yourself, that little extra embarrassment that you would be with a Jewish friend, you'd be like, oh, yeah, God, this is no good. Well, again, it is, I always like to say when I speak to Christian audiences, it's probably

very confusing because you have George Soros on one side and you have Ben Shapiro on the other. And they couldn't think more differently. So, you know, we say three Jews, five opinions. You know, we don't, you know, Jeffrey Epstein, George Soros, they're Jew-ish. It's confusing because we're one of the few ethno religions where you can be born with genetics going back to Israel, but completely unaffiliated and know nothing about the religion and be, you know, many times like a coppo, like our worst enemy. Well, the capos at least have the excuse that they're trying to not killed. Right. That's true. I got called a Koppel.

By the way. Yeah. You also got called a Nazi. Yeah. I got called a Nazi. Well, Nazi was different. Nazi was, I got called a Nazi, but it didn't mean that I was anti-Jewish. It meant like I'm a Jewish Nazi.

Like, you know, not, but. The great Chial benefit. Well, I was called a Nazi when I voted for Trump. Yeah. They mean like I want to do to the Palestinians what the Nazis did. That's what they mean. But a Koppel actually meant I'm an enemy of the Jews. Right.

Well, I just sat down with. what I would call one of them, Glenn Greenwald for a Jubilee episode, that was hard. That was hard. Because I know he calls himself a journalist, but there is such a selective outrage and a silence on all the facts. It's like, you can criticize Israel. You can, you know, who criticizes Israel more than Israelis? But when you single out Israel. But go ahead, Chris.

When you single out Israel and you plant the seeds of division. You know, where it's now not just an Israel derangement syndrome problem, it's becoming an American Jewish problem, the Jewish lobby of America. Epstein. And you're, and, well, he's not technically joke because only his father is Jewish. But, well, Epstein? No, Greenwald. Oh, really?

Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, he's not even living in America. He's living in Brazil for the last 25 years. But he goes on these shows, Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson. and he because he's of Jewish heritage and he says these things, it, it disproportionately... So he's by Jewish? Well, he pulls that card when it's taboo to, right?

Like, well, he can say as a Jew. And I have a... I've never heard him say that as a Jew. Well, he hasn't, but you people learn about him and they find out that he's Jewish. And so when he says it... Like Dave Smith will say, I'm... Oh, my God, Dave Smith. Go ahead.

I mean... It's hard. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's tough. It's tough because... You don't have to say it, though. It's inferred. It's implied.

Right. But when you make it about that, like, well, I can say that because I'm a Jew. I'm going to tell you the inside story. Yeah. It's amplifying the flames of anti-Semitism. And again, I feel that that word does get misused. Not everything is anti-Semitic. It's like, not everything's racist.

But there is an exponential amount of Jews. hate and Jew scapegoating that has happened since October 7th, and a lot of it has been at the hands of people like Dave Smith, Glenn Greenwald, in addition to Tucker and Candice and Megan, and it sucks. It sucks. Oh, by the way, you know, this instinct, when OJ allegedly killed Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman, there was tremendous support for him within the black community. Dan, you're probably old enough to remember.

Yeah, I mean, I was in L.A. Obviously. Yes. This was her. I was in law school when that whole thing went down. I was in high school. Despite the absolute absurdity of the notion that he was innocent, like it was just the most, as Bill Maher said at the time, Hitler left less evidence.

Did Bill Moore really say? Yeah, I remember that. And I don't remember jokes. That was a good one. their instinct was to rally around their people. Well, and you know who's at the helm of that? Was Alan Dershowitz? Yes, Alan.

Another Jew. Another Jew. But he's now done 180. He's evolved. Oh, by the way, we take some credit for that on this show. Do you? Because I mean, I don't really take credit for it, but we had him on the show. And I told him, I said, Joe Biden is going to be the last Jew you will ever, the last

Jew, last Democrat you'll ever vote for. Remember me saying, I don't know. I care about this. And he went all the issues that he cared about. I said, no, Alan is not going to happen. And sure enough, he... Are you saying that that extends to, that he wouldn't defend OJ today?

No, he would defend OJ today. No, he's still a Jew. No, of course he's supposed to defend... You don't have to take every case, guys. Yeah, this is, this is something I go back and forth on because... What do you mean? Isn't Dershowitz at his core? Like, isn't that, like, his number one?

That's how you we came well known with, with Claudevonne Buehlo. Yeah. He's a criminal attorney. I remember reading, I remember this is, I'm a fuzzy on this, but he wrote a book, maybe it was a book, Chutzpah, or one of his books. And he, in one of those books, he delineated his standard for taking a criminal case when he knows somebody's guilty. This is really from a very fuzzy, and it was something like there needed to be a constitutional

issue, an issue of law. Essentially an issue in the case. which he felt was important for the justice system writ large to establish. So it was more than just about this one. And then they offered him the O.J. thing. Like he had never written it. And in those days, you couldn't just like, you know, look it up and tweet it and make him look like an idiot, right? Like, even I didn't.

So, listen, that's Dershowitz. But I'm a Dershowitz fan. Yeah, but you were going to say something about the OJ. Oh, I just said. So, like, you know, our, our, we don't have. that same, they have that instinct to rally around their own people much more than we do anymore. Yeah. And, you know, well, did we ever? I mean, yeah. Yeah. Did we rally around Leo Frank? I don't know. I don't, I didn't study the period. But, but probably, but the, the thing is, we don't, we don't

want to rally around your own people right or wrong, that would be, that would be. Right. We want justice, you know, even if it's our own people. You want to hold them accountable. But the juxtaposition is that they rallied around OJ despite the fact that it was absurd. Yeah. And we are failing, many of us are failing to rally around our people. Yes. Despite the fact that our case is very, very, very strong. even, you know, in the face of a genocidal enemy. Yeah. So I don't know what's the matter with our people. So you're a psychotherapist.

What the fuck is the matter with our people? Well, it goes back to the beginning. We've always had... Don't make trouble. We've always had, you know, you know, that's our religion, is question everything and challenge and, you know, the Talmud and the Mishnah and the Qamara. You know, we go back to the time of the Sadduzis,

the Pharisees, the S&Es, you know, these are all different types of things. Judaism. I mean, Jesus came from... When you know those... When you rattle off those names, you actually know what you're talking about? I am. I mean, I studied at UCLA. But literally 30 years, I thought it was Assenes. Well, maybe I'm saying it wrong. I thought it was Essonese. It depends which professor. I never heard of these people.

They were the ones, I believe, the Road the Dead Seas grows, right? Yes, that's right. And that's where Jesus came from. Yeah. You know your stuff, Dan. Dan knows a lot. I know some stuff, but the know-it-all is anachronism. We don't need the know-it-all anymore. We have the internet. But about it. But I was an important man back. And chat, GPT. And chat, EBT, by the way, is insufferable. But anyway, go ahead, go ahead.

Well, I mean... Just pedantic. Go ahead. It's all certain issues that won't give you a great answer. It is pretty amazing. Our disproportionate influence to the world. And some can say, you know, we have this force of, you know, it's not, the

secret sauce is that our religion is a religion of action. You know, we value hard work. We value education. We are not empowered victims. You're kicking us out. Okay, we'll move and wherever we land, we'll make it better. We'll do our Tikun alam. But that also means that we can use education and hard work for bad things. You know, I had the pleasure of knowing Charlie Kirk personally. I was about this. Go ahead. Yeah. And one of the things he we spoke about, you know, off the record and privately, was how frustrated he was with the progressive Jewish

movement who funds a lot of these anti-American progressive programs. You know, it's, you know, Dershowitz talks about how hard it is. You know, if you're a conservative Jew, if you're pro-Israel, you're not getting hard. But if you're a Jew who's anti-Israel, you know, welcome. Welcome to Moore University. And it's tough because he's like, what do you want me to do? Every day I'm in the front lines of this, and I have progressive Jews who know nothing about their religion and the conflict screaming about genocide. And so it's confusing because we also have to

take responsibility for the Jews who, you know, take their power and influence and use it for the wrong thing. But that doesn't discount all the good we've brought. And I think that's what's so frustrating. You know, Jews can do amazing things. Like, you can't go a day in your life without benefiting from some Jewish invention, making your life easier and better. But Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, is always here all day long. Was he Jewish, by the long? It's like that joke. It's like that joke, you suck one cock. Well, the irony, the irony is that Epstein did not like Israel. He hung out with Aramolas. Like he was not, you know, all the stuff of Muslim.

You don't know that he didn't like it. No, no, there was, he had, he had correspondence, email correspondence. Where you said he didn't like Israel? He didn't like Israel. A lot of people don't like dealing with Israelis. No, but no, but like when people would try to link him to Mossad, you know, Galane Maxwell's father died before he even was with her. You know, so it's left like that. Like, it's frustrating when they hold such a magnifying glass to us and refuse to

acknowledge our contributions, even to America. Like, Hymn Solomon died penniless funding the Revolutionary War. Like, you're wearing jeans. That's American Jewish. Is that another war we orchestrated? We helped fund for liberation. And two Jews, you know, I'm just going to keep going. Jews funded the NAACP and it was a Jewish lawyer who stopped Jim Crow laws.

Like there's so much rich history of American patriotism, you know, that no one talks about. I'm sure that a lot of people don't like the fact that we were involved in ending Jim Crow. The N double JCP. Listen, I think I think people actually do talk about this stuff. Which people? Besides us. No, I think people, well, yeah, I guess we're talking about it. But anyway, I want to hear more about Charlie Kirk because now, how well did you know him?

I mean, I only met him. I met him a few times. I was lucky to speak in debt with him for. I mean, just saying, they would say that one has nothing to do with the other. Like, you don't get a, you don't get a jail out of free card because was Jonas Salk Jewish? Yes. Dan's like, of course he's Jewish, you idiot. So like.

You asked me, I mean, that's an obvious. obvious one. Why, is Sok a Jewish name? It's just everybody knows. That's the one that everybody always brings up. You know, like, well, what about Jonas Sock? And Einstein?

Anyway, just because Jonas Sok was Jewish doesn't mean you get to kill the Palestinians. Like, like, you know, so like, I get that you would like people to say that stuff. But I, I also understand it's not really connected.

Like, right. And I, and I, And I don't, like, I'm fine defending Israel if we had never done any of those things. Yeah. I'm fine defending Israel, even if we have a high crime rate, even if we are per capita more likely to commit sexual crimes. I don't even like, like, give me the words case scenario. I'm like, that has nothing to do with what's going on in Israel. Well, there's some point at which, you know, you would just say, you know what, I'm not Jewish anymore.

I mean, there's some level of. How can you not be Jewish? Can you stop being Filipino? Well, you can stop identifying as such. Can you stop identifying, identify the Filipino? No, but. I'm Italian. It was Charlie and your, could you text him?

Did you have his number? I didn't have his number, but he did know me. I, you know, I became close. Candace had his number. Well, we know that. Yeah, I have a lot to say about Candice too. But I'm close to his pastor, Pastor Ra McCoy, and Charlie and I did have some wonderful conference.

that I will forever cherish. And that article that I wrote in the Times of Israel got all the way to him. And that was the article that he was not happy with that he brought up on the Megan Kelly show with that clip that kept being shared over and over and over again. Oh, you were the one he was referring to on Megan Kelly show? Oh, this is great. Yeah. So why? I never told this. He was very angry. Well, okay. First of all, the article is still available. It's called Charlie. The Noise has gotten to you And it was written. I was not one of those people who called him an anti-Semite. I think that's so counterintuitive because literally Charlie Dick's arrow has had taken arrows

every single day with, you know, he wants to talk about America stuff and all these kids want to talk about Israel. And so we, you know, he is absolutely has been our leader. He's been one of the best things about America. And he was a role model, father and son. So my article to him was, first of all, thanking him and appreciating him, but he had done a focus group with all of the turning point leaders focusing specifically on APAC in Israel. I don't know if you guys saw it. It was 20 minutes. And only at minute 19 did they talk about the concern of Islamization coming to the country. Because the perspective that Charlie and I and Dennis Prager and Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapir, we all, we think.

that are clear enemies in America, are Democrat socialists, and now holding hands with Islamic fundamentalists. You know, that is our enemy. Our conservative group being divided and scapegoated over Israel is something that none of us saw coming before October 7th. It was not on our bingo card. But Charlie had this focus group, and it was really disproportionately focused on A-PAC, implying that because of the penance of foreign aid that is given to Israel, this is why Americans can't afford a home. And it was not fair. And it was not honest. But I think understanding Charlie's point of view, he has to stay relevant.

And there is a growing Groyper group that he experienced that was becoming very receptive to Nick Fuentes and how they thought. And, you know, Charlie, God bless him. He still had a moral line of clarity. He absolutely believed in free speech, but there were certain lines he wasn't going to cross, including sitting down with Nick Fuentes. But what was happening is he had to walk that line. He had to support free speech. That's why he was in support of having someone like Tucker on stage at SAS at the Student Action Summit in Florida. but I also don't think he was really fully aware how dark Tucker, Candice, and that group were going. His issue was, I support Israel,

but I can understand why people are getting frustrated because they feel like their free speech is being impeded by what Trump is doing on campus with, you can't be against BDS and all those things. And he could understand how young conservatives were looking at Jews, as getting a special privilege, even though that's not entirely the case, but it's how it was presented to them. So I wrote this article to him, just asking him to be mindful, you know, that he does,

people are looking to him. And when he platforms these people, like out of everything Tucker could speak on stage at Turning Point, he had to speak about Epstein and Musad. Really? That's all? That's what you had to talk about. So that's what I wrote. I just asked, him to be aware that, yes, anti-Semitism is being overused. And no one likes to be called an anti-Semite for having a conversation. But you also have a responsibility to be balanced and fair because so many people look to you. But wait, wasn't he also, and Candice released those text messages, which were legit. Okay. And I don't know. So I can go into that. Yeah, any nexus between that story and you. But he wasn't just about the free speech issue. It was

actually about Israel, that he was... So I know all of this, because I was actually involved. So here it is. You're going to hear it first. So I wrote this article and the Jewish donor, and I could speak freely about this because Dr. Bob Shillman himself spoke about this on the Dinesh show openly. Dr. Bob and I became friendly because we're always at the same Israel events. And I came to him and I said, you know, he was a major donor of Turning Point in Charlie

right at the beginning. And something you should know about Dr. Bob, which will surprise many people, is that he never wanted Charlie to be pro-Israel. Like, that was not important to him. What was important to him was that turning point was founded on free market, capitalism. It wasn't even a Christian organization at first.

It was mostly about being conservative, supporting free markets, supporting capitalism. It became Christian later on. But what Dr. Bob was not liking was, okay, I don't need to be. you to focus on Israel. But if you're going to focus on Israel, I don't want you to now focus on people being

anti-Israel. And as a philanthropist, as a donor, you have every right to put your money where your values are. And if your values are no longer aligning with that same mission, you have every right to change your mind. So this, what's the name again? The doctor? Dr. Bob Shilman. So Dr.

Bob Shulman was a funder attorney for USA. And then he pulled his money. So I because what? So I, he saw my article and he he took it to the higher ups he's like look candace is still on the website you're platforming tucker carlson again i don't need israel to be a major issue but i don't want turning point to then turn anti-israel and i could we all could see the concern i mean look what we are now i then to be honest but what was in i mean you're talking about you only mentioned the free speech

why did he think they were turning anti-israel he was never turning against israel all charlie said in that text message specifically is, I will be have no choice but to abandon the Israel cause, meaning I'm not going to talk about it anymore. He never turned his support against Israel. That is what Candace is trying to manipulate. Him saying, I have no choice but to abandon the Israel cause is not him saying I no longer support Israel. It kind of is. Well, that's, but it's not the case. Because you look at Erica, you look at the fact that, you know, the people on the turning point board are extremely, extremely evangelical. In fact, they were far more critical of Charlie's choice in Tucker and Megan and that group more so than Dr. Bob was. And so, and we see now with turning point's actions,

you know, slowly distancing themselves, these people have not been invited back to these conferences and they are making a line. Now. Yeah. Well, okay, there's a lot, there's a lot of moving parts there. They're also, you know, Candace and then by... Candace is not relevant. She has not been invited to any turning point events for the last several years. She had no communication. I'm going to say that since Candace and then Tucker, since these groups are now, even Megan Kelly, yeah, are associated with this

revisionist story of who killed Charlie Kirk and are associated with the idea that she might have been So of course they're going to turn against these people now. That might not have been the trajectory that they were on. Like how could they possibly line up with these people now? It's insane. But I do think that, of course, you know, if- But that's what we saw, that I don't think Charlie was really fully aware of how bad it was getting.

You said before. He was just so focused on being a free speech absolutist. You said before that you gave him some slack, you cut him some slack because he needed to stay relevant. Yeah. I don't give me any slack for that. And by the way, I just want to say that when we see one of our own, some Jew, start speaking out of both sides of his mouth to stay relevant. We say, what the, shame on him.

Look what he's doing to stay relevant. What kind of principal person who, you know, this is your profession is you're supposed to be honest as a thinker here. We don't hire you to be a imitation of a thinker. He was trying to welcome different. types of opinions because he had spent years criticizing the Democrat oligocque party for cancellation and censorship with difference of opinions. So he didn't want then to become a hypocrite and not platform people like Tucker Carlson because Tucker's saying something he might disagree with.

So what was it, what was just, because a lot of the others, I'm interested. What was he referring to in that tweet about how they're something like, you know, they're the caricature of what we hear about? Yeah, the Jewish don't. I mean, again, because I, listen, I don't know exactly what words were exchanged, but I think there was some frustration on both sides. I mean, Charlie, I was, you know, told by many different people that, you know, sometimes he had, you know, an Irish temper that, you know, and he was also 31 years old, you know, he doesn't like being told who he can and can't have. and I think that rubbed some donors, including Christian donors, the wrong way, because they saw the writing on the wall, and they saw the weight of what Charlie was doing and where it would be leading.

But like I said, if Charlie was alive today, I think he would be sickened at how dark these very allies he thought he had had become, especially in how they're treating his widow, Erica. It's just appalling. I don't know about Charlie Kirk. When he was alive, I didn't pay much attention to him. But I would see from time to time kind of this pop, pop punditry, you know. The video with a college. Yeah, with a Christian slant.

And, you know, most of them I basically agree with that point of view. But I never thought, oh, that's, you know, this is a deep thinker. And then he would have these thumbnails, which were very, like, to drum up clicks. And very often they would ridicule or make fun of the. people he spoke to, you know, Charlie Kirk owns the blah, blah, I don't like that. But okay, he's trying to, it's a business after all. But nothing about him was appealing to me.

And then, I've said it on this show, it drives people crazy to I say that after October 7th, he speculated that Netanyahu and, you know, Israel might have had a stand-down order and they might have let this happen. I'm like, of course, this guy, I mean, that's no different than the kind of stuff Tucker Carlson says. Yes. Well, that clip, I think, happened right after October 7th. Yeah. And I think, listen, what he failed to share with his audiences, and this is the truth, is there is an Antifa-like leftist radical group in Israel. No one has done more damage to the Jews than the writers of her arts that the, you know, that the pro Pallies use every day to quote, oh, it says in Israel's, you know, newspaper. And I think it's a

fair question to say that there was probably some leftist sabotage on October 7th. But that's not what he said. He said a stand-down order coming from the top. It's absurd. I don't know if I read that exact quote then, because I'm thinking of it a different quote. Because he was- He went on Patrick Ben-David-Badcom. So what I heard from that was that he was like, the army is the most sophisticated

army in the world where they have security everywhere. How did this happen? So that's what- There was a stand-down order? I mean, it's just... Did he actually say those words? Yeah, he said those words. You had...

Yeah. Well, you had mentioned earlier. I think you had said that he was... He had talked to you about a certain progressive Jews supporting anti-American causes. Yeah, I mean... What anti-American causes with... Well, I mean, you know, there's a lot of progressive... You know, George Soros, Santifa, Open Society.

These are, you know, this is... George Soros is Jewish, you know, not Jewish, but he, you know... there's, like, there's different programs. I think there were some Jews at the, at the, at the, at the root of the gender, transgender question, which is insane, right? So like, things that, you know, you and I would disagree on, but, you know, these Jews are these progressive socialist bringing this type of education to universities. But again, you can't paint Jews in one paintbrush, you know, you have to understand where their values are, how they're, they look at the world, and it can be drastically different.

But again, I didn't like when Charlie would say the Jews. I would say to him, say secular Jews. Like, you can't say the Jews. You can't do that. Well, even within secular Jews, there were large differences of opinion on issues like transgender, immigration. Yes, there is nuance. There is nuance.

And we don't need someone like Charlie, who was one of the few people who was pro-Israel. Look, I don't know what was going on, but, you know, Dennis Prager had a horrible accident that he's, you know, recovering from slowly. Jordan Peterson, you know, became ill and then Charlie was assassinated. Like all of our biggest guys, you know, we didn't have their voices. And so, you know, Charlie's voice in that time with Dennis and Jordan gone and then, you know, no one listens to Ben now apparently because he's a Musad agent. Charlie's voice was so important and so shaping of.

where we would be going. And, like, he held a lot of it all together. I mean, you know, I was blessed to be at the memorial, and it was incredible. It was the best of America in one room. Exactly. That what Tucker Carlson said about the homo cedars. Yes.

Oh, yes. Can you believe? I'm not talking about Jews. I was just talking about homoceders in Jerusalem. Where would you get that from? What? Like God, really not. Well, was he talking about Jesus?

Yeah. And someone betrayed them. I wasn't talking about the Jews. What? Well, Jews betrayed him and also Jews were... Even Nick Fuentes had a whole bit about that. He was like, you know, when you start to agree with Nick Fuentes. Noam, you can at least see why Charlie was so popular, even if you yourself didn't find him all that interesting.

Well, listen, he had a huge influence on the election. I mean, he got, he had about 50 million people following him on TikTok. Yeah. He was young, handsome, handsome, but, well... Handsome, you know, but... Handsome, I don't need to be handsome. I don't remember. In my mind, he was handsome.

I didn't find him. He looked a little, whatever. It doesn't matter. He, listen. The other thing to, I wasn't. Yeah. That it just, it just needs to be noted.

Yeah. That world, which, and we don't even know, we still don't know how many people it represents, but that it now includes Megan Kelly. Yeah. And that they are not, ashamed and open to being associated with the idea, the wacky, nutty, UFOs or raping our women level idea that Israel assassinated Charlie Kirk.

And, you know, despite the fact, we know that Tyler, Tyler Robinson killed, we know this, right? We know Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. The evidence is like, OJ left less evidence. And this is a rot. This is a fucking rot in the intellectual communities. And I, you know, this is just tendential. But we are not doing well with free speech anymore.

Like we have no gatekeepers anymore. And we are really exposing just how flimsy human beings are. Ariel, what are you texting? I'm sorry. Go ahead. It's an emergency. Yeah. Well, we are in a digital war.

Yeah. And listen, America and Israel, you're not going to be them in a physical war. So if you were an enemy of this country and, you know, and it's ally Israel, what would you do? After October 7th, it was like, all of a sudden, everyone discovered what a war is and that people die in wars. Never mind that, you know, there was wars happening all over the world with, you know, Sudan and Yemen and Syria. All of a sudden, people were getting constant feeds of the genocide in Gaza. And a lot of these are bots and a lot of these are... Oh, you don't know that.

You don't know that. Well, no, no, you do know that. You do. We do know that. That's why Elon now is including on the description where the original account is from. Because a lot of it has been bots and a lot of it has been... Botswana. Pakistan.

But it's... You also, a lot of this footage was taken from other places. like they would, I remember this video in particular where they would say, IDF soldier bulldozes down innocent children. And it was a video from Syria, video from Egypt. But when you have things... No, look, 70,000 plus people were killed. Okay.

So we can resume. Including companants. Yeah, including combatants. But when you have a two-year war, that is an incredibly small ratio. No, no. If you want to talk about genocide. My point, my point is that, let's say, half to two-thirds are civilians of that number,

it shouldn't be tough to generate many, many videos, which are legitimate. But disproportionate, how come we're, I mean, there's 500,000 people in Yemen. When you have 40, 50,000 people die, you don't need bots to explain why you'd have a steady stream of videos. Okay. My point is, why are we only saying?

that conflict. There was over a million people who were killed with Russia, Ukraine. How come we're not hearing free Russia? How come we're not hearing about the Russian babies being slaughtered? I mean, what I'm saying is with Elon giving us free speech, which we were all so grateful for, because we all know people who were deplatformed, you spoke against the vaccine. I mean, Mark, Zuckerberg came out and said, yes, the FBI told us to call things, things, misinformation. So we were so thrilled when Elon came and said, no one's being canceled. But with that, we've seen such a disproportionate rise of anti-Semitism and focus, hyper-phorosis on Israel. Is that correlated or causative? Well, I mean, I think it's a combination of both. So you give,

you give a benefit of free speech, which we all support. And, you know, it's one of our American fundamental values, but it tends to insanely disproportionately single out and criticize Israel and the Jews. And now we're in this mess. I feel like... So what do you do about that? Well, that's just that we are in a digital war and we do have, you know, algorithms and confirmation bias against us. That's the new weapons. Because when you like something, the algorithm just gives you more of that. So if all that you're seeing is the same... same stuff over and over again about the Jews and genocide, you just think that is real and that is true. And that's the term useful idiots. We have so many more recruited intentionally or unintentionally

useful idiots who are doing the talking points and bidding of our enemies. That is the enemy from within. That is how you destroy your country is you get their own citizens to start to hate each other and hate and hate you. Look at all the criticism of Trump now coming from these prior supporters. You're a Trump supporter? All day long. Oh, yes. I'm doing all my atonement now. I'm a former Democrat. I was the national ambassador of Jesk, Jegsit, Jews who exited the Democrat Party. And now I'm a bridge builder because the, listen, I am used to. Anything about him that bothers you? Of course. He's a flawed individual like everybody else. But I don't. Just just like everybody else don't, like, no, not in a noteworthy flood?

I don't choose my leaders based off their human flaws. I choose them if they're exceptional leaders. And the policy, you know, what Trump has brought back is peace through strength, peace through deterrence. I mean, Biden had three years to push to Qatar to end the war. Trump did that within his first year. You squeeze the bosses, you know, all of Hamas and it was all that leadership came back to Qatar.

Trump was able to end the Gaza war and get all 20 hostages back alive in one day. How do you do that? Peace through strength. And the Abraham Accords, people thought it would be impossible. You know, and if Trump had been in office in 2020, we would have had normalizations already with Saudi Arabia. The world would have been different. The fact that we had no new wars under Trump, 2016 to 2020, because Iran had sanctions. No one talks about that.

People like to call him the war hawk and he's starting these wars. No, no. He's trying to end these wars. Iran was a mess when he came into office. They had sanctions. They were lifted by Biden. They had money to empower Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis. October 7th, never would have happened under Trump. And Trump's energy is wait till your father comes home energy, which is what this country has sorely needed. What do you think about the war in Iran? I mean, I would like it to end soon. I was told it's not going to start again because the World Cup is coming and no one wants to mess with that. I think Trump understands, first of all, this is not a new thing. He's been talking about Iran since the 80s. And Israel, contrary to popular belief, did not want America to go into Iraq. They advised against it. They said Trump is the, excuse me, Saddam is. the manageable threat, Iran was always the bigger threat. But Trump saw an opportunity with Venezuela and the 12-day operation in June and, you know, the unfortunate slaughter of these people in the streets. And him and Bibi have this chance to once and for all weaken this regime. And yes, there's going to be growing pains. But there's no boots on the ground. He is being strategic. He doesn't like war. And we see that in his record with the Abraham Accords, with what he's done in

Serbia, Azerbaijan. I mean, example after example, he wrote the art of the deal. He wants a solution. If you were the president and they told you, look, we're not going to be able to get rid of this nuclear material and really put a stake through the heart of their program unless we put some boots on the ground. Would you order the boots on the ground? I don't think it will get to there. I know, but let's say. I mean, is it, I guess, I know, is it, is it so important for the world that it's worth that? I mean, I think once you're in, you have to finish the job. But I don't think, I think if Trump had ever had to resort to boots on the ground,

I would trust him as there's a very good reason. But that's not something he wants to do. He is not a Bush guy. He's not a, the Haley guy. That's not who he is. But I don't think that would be politically possible. anyway. He can order them. Yeah, they were such a you and a cry.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't think he's going to, but if anybody, if he wanted to, the hue and the cry, he doesn't seem to respond to that stuff. He doesn't care. And he can't run for reelection. And he doesn't care about the Republican Party. No, he does care. I mean, his track records, what is it, 39 and 0, everyone he's endorsed has been voted in? I mean, has still been. No, he had some people. He doesn't. I think just yesterday, but it's pretty, pretty high. It's high.

It's high. Odds, like 90%. That's saying something. No, he absolutely has a base. Bill Barr, when he left office, said that the thing about Trump that he couldn't understand is that Trump just had no care for the party and the party's health whatsoever. Sure, he'll endorse somebody and want him to win.

He's about MAGA and he's called out people like, you know, it's such a genius thing that Tucker says. says, I'm America first. You're not America first. You're Qatar first. You're the Vatican first. And Trump has called them out. These people are not MAGA. And unfortunately, it's a loud noise on X, but poll after poll still says that this party supports Trump, supports the war in Iran. We do have to worry about Gen Z. This is the most affected generation, 50% of them now, less than 50. don't look at Israel's favorably, and they are going to be our future voters, and that is something to worry about. And that's why I do focus on bridge building, because you come after the Jews,

I'm used to that. But now with Tucker saying, it's the Christian Zionist who he hates the most, when you're coming after the base of the Republican Party. He did apologize for it. I just, yeah. Yeah, but he's made several statements like that. And when you come, when you come after the base of the Republican Party, which is the Christian Zionist, and you are successful. and destroying that, we've lost America. That is something to be worried about. I'm very pessimistic. I think I do.

I said for weeks already. Luckily, we have the guy upstairs. This is not our first rodeo. You know? Really? Yeah, that's what I feel. It's going to get dark, but it's going to get light again. Where was he in the 40s?

Well, it's like that old joke. I forgot the joke. Something about, you know, about the Holocaust, and somebody says to God, well, you had to be there. Yeah, that's that great joke that, I forgot the first part of the joke. Jerry Seinfeld and Ricky Jervase on comedians and cars. What was the rest of the joke?

You don't remember. I don't want to mess it up. Can you text somebody to ask them? I can look, I mean, I can look it up. You want me to look it up? It's one of the great jokes. You know, no, it's really, it's really me, not just her, but it's her too.

some people like you know people can text and they totally zone it out it doesn't interfere with their focus I'm not like that when she starts texting on her fucking phone you're distracted no now I'm no it takes me out of the game I can't focus on it

I also feel like it's you know it's disrespectful to the guest but not that she would ever mean to be disrespectful she doesn't it's okay no no she really doesn't listen I understand it you can women have ability to successfully multitask.

Ready? Yeah, go ahead. A Holocaust survivor passes away, goes to heaven, and finally meets God. The survivor tells God a Holocaust joke, but God responds by saying, that's not funny. The survivor then says, well, I guess you had to be there. Oh, I see. Okay. It's a damn good joke.

Yeah, women are going to multitasking. Is that really true? Like, that's why my wife can. It's true. Have an orgasm, and follow nails. Yeah. Faked orgasm and follow nails. Yes.

Yeah. Other than the religiously, other than the religiously motivated Christian Zionists who, you know, think that this is a biblical prophecy being fulfilled, what percentage of non-religiously motivated, non-Jewish people are pro-Israel? Do we have that statistic? I don't know that number. But, again, you don't have to be. religious, like you were saying, Noem, to understand that Israel has every right to exist and defend itself. And when it gets attacked and it wins the wars, too bad, so sad. Like, that's just the way of the world. And, you know, the thing about it is Israel is like America. I mean,

of all the countries to not have a right to exist, it's the one that's created by the United Nations. It's absurd. It is absurd. I mean, and you talk to most, you talk to most, you, you know, people about it, they don't understand that two million Arabs live in Israel. And if you ask said Arabs, if there was a two-state solution, would you move to Palestine? They would say, hell no. There's, I don't know the polls, but I do know anecdotally that that's true. Yeah. Yeah. And because why? Because they don't have to wear the hijab. They can, they can be as religious or not religious as they want. No, that's not the reason. No, but there's many different reasons why it's appealing to live in Israel. They have 55 Muslim countries to

choose from. Why are they choosing to live under the one Jewish one? I'm not sure that's that's well I don't know I don't know I mean I'm I don't know what their options are it is there it is the land of their what do you mean their options meaning I don't know where they where they can a lot of them come to America yeah but I'm not sure they can go other Arab countries the fact that they have options no one talks about enough the ethnic cleansing of Jews in these Arab countries where did all the Jews in Iraq go I did they have options do they have options in Syria and Lebanon and Egypt, where did that Jewish population go? They were ethnically cleansed or killed, and now they're Christians. So the fact that Muslims have 55 options, including all of Europe and the UK. Have you seen the UK lately? I can't believe you were ever a Democrat.

I was. I voted for Obama, not just once, but twice, twice. Because, well, I, listen, I'm a pro choice and I have no issue with gay marriage. And but I'm also not an idiot. So. But you were apparently. But I was. You know, we all have a right to wake up. No, I mean. But you know, to be fair, to be fair, to, to Bill Maher and Dershowich's point, classic liberalism today is conservative. It, the party has gotten way more radical. I mean, JFK would be a moderate conservative today with his values. If the Jews hadn't killed them, sure. Yeah, but you know, but Obama,

he was, was a, is it title nine? You know, he was, he was all in on people not being able to defend themselves for sexual charges. But also he brought back identity politics. You know, I thought the 90s was our best decade. We were not talking about racism and white privilege. It was a beautiful decade, but I was young, so. We were all watching Fresh Prince of Bel Air

and all of our shows and like. I had hope in 90s, but that's nothing. with a decade but what I'm saying is we were, well, he lost a lot of credit too after his

behavior with Chris Rock and Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Oh, oh, he with this lap recently. Okay, but that was like 25 years later. Well,

I'm just saying, like, I don't know that we can't like to him anymore. I love the music of that day. I was just going to say we were listening to all the hip hop. Well, forget the hip hop.

We were just together as a country. Like I thought, you know, we were united, we were just not divided by this crap. I was divided on now. Don't you think that Trump bears some responsibility for that?

So Ben Shapiro I love his analogy. The party was already polarizing, thanks to Obama. He was making Republicans out to be racist and Christian and, you know, if you're a Republican, yes, you're hateful. And Trump came along and capitalized that. The reason why he got elected was because he was giving, you know, he was giving a voice to the people who were so frustratedly mislabeled. And it resonated. Remember, Trump is not a traditional Republican.

The Republicans hated him. You know, he came in from the outside, and he was like, Trump was a Democrat. Yes. Yes. And a business man. Normalized, like, during COVID, that he sort of weaponized. Weaponized and normalized.

In the same sentence, you're using two buzzards? Are you a Democrat? What's going on? By the way, ubiquitous, this is a word. It wasn't a word. I'm a liberal. I mean, I'm a lifelong. I've never voted Republican in my life.

My husbanders. No, he hasn't actually. Because I haven't registered him to be, to figure out how to vote yet. I am disgusted and appalled with how the Democrats have just kowtowed to this fucking rabid anti-Semitism. But I've never voted. So you're in October 8th. Just wait till President J.D. Vance takes over. Then we'll see them stand up.

Mark Rubio, baby. I am. No, I'm not in. October 8th Jew. I've been a Jew my whole life. No, but I mean in terms of being disgusted by the silence on the Democrat Party side. Yes, yes. Yes, she is. She's in October 8th Jew. She's not October 8th Jew in terms of her Jewish identity. Right. She's an October 8th Jew in terms of her denialism of what was going on. Can I give you a little story about the view? Don't look at me like that. The view from Real America. I was on a cruise ship last week at Galveston,

Galveston, Texas, and doing comedy. I'm a comic. I don't know if I mentioned that. But anyway, I'm on stage. Dying, by the way. You know, but I mentioned that we're... Dying how? I wasn't doing well. You know, wasn't...

Some of the shows were good, some weren't. Whatever. Okay, it was the crowd. But I mentioned that we happened to be in the Gulf of America. I saw my phone. America? I didn't know it was official. And I said something like, you know,

about being in the Gulf of America. And I got applause. Oh, so now you know which way to go. Yeah. Now you know what your audience is. Unbelievable. The only response I got was when I said Gulf of America. And they really responded.

Now you know which direction to go. Being a stand-up comic is got to be excruciating. Like, to be on stage and to be dying, bombing. It wasn't dying, dying, dying. It was just not. I've seen it. For comedic effect. And, you know, you're in the third minute of your 20-minute set.

Oh, no. It's not easy. People are walking out, by the way. There's nobody paid to be there. You're on the ship. It's included. And then you see them in line at the buffet. It's a lot awkward.

I mean, there's no other art form. Like, if you make a movie, you can get a terrible review. Yeah. Okay. But you don't have to sit there while the crowd reads it to you for 20 minutes. It's really, why would you want to be a comedian? What motivates you? The truth is I don't.

I always want it to be. Seinfeld. We all did. Well, I don't know, we all did, but many of us did. And how many times it's Seinfeld Bob in his prayer, you know? What's that? How many times it's Seinfeld, Bob? You just keep going. I don't know. He's very, very accessible and, you know, he probably didn't bomb a whole lot. No, this is, a lot of this is a Mishigas in his head, because anybody knows that Dan just usually is murdering. No, no, no. I'll tell you, I'll tell you who doesn't know it, the people that booked the comedy. Listen to me. I,

Permission to bring up a subject that is just really got me worked up. Of course. I'll give you permission. Go ahead. And relevant. Do you know what's going on at the Park Slope co-op in Brooklyn? Can we talk about? But I lived in Park Slope.

Go ahead. Go ahead. Park Slope, go ahead. No, they've banned Israeli products. Oh, yeah. What a shocker. Yeah. I mean, this is.

They're trying. trying to do it at Trader Joe's. You've got to all buy Israeli products of Trader Joe's. I mean, this is fucking outrageous. Or am I going to get my Muttcoat paddles? Mattcoat. Amazon. No, no, come on. I'm serious. This, this, I mean, don't you think this is? You know what Muttcoat is? It's terrible, especially, of course, as we know, there's so many Israeli products which are so important to people that they would never go without. Exactly what I said. Yeah. Don't get a fucking stent.

Yeah. Don't use your phone. Don't use ways. Forget even that. Don't visit our cancer doctors and specialists. Don't take the vaccines. Yeah. I mean, I think this is like just so beyond. I mean, it's insane. Yeah. And to Danielle's point about like of all the horrible things that are going on in the world, you don't hear anything about anything other than Israel. In Epstein. Yeah. It's, I mean, Epstein is like, they'll tell you it's because we give money to them. And so that's not what they're saying. That's the excuse that is being used. That's a silly excuse.

It's also bullshit. Europe doesn't give any money to Israel. Anyway, all right. Well, I don't know what the European excuse is. And this is a children's book. The world where I belong, let me guess it's about the blacks. Stop. No.

It's a fable. I have, I have, um, I have young kids. Well, not anymore, actually. My youngest one is nine. Do you grandkids? Grandkids? My youngest one is nine.

It was a late in life. Oh, okay. And my oldest is 14, well, 31. Okay. So that would work. This would work. It's, I wrote it for children and adults. And it's really, it's like the little prince.

It's a fable that everyone can benefit from because we are in this world where people are justifying socialism and justifying narcissism. And there is, we need to be reminded where we are. And what personal responsibility is. There's something to be said, though, for letting kids, you know, I mean, kids are, you know, we teach some socialism, we have sharing and, you know, for kids, it's like, we kind of. That's not the problem. Sharing is fine.

It's, I was telling you earlier. Everybody getting a participation trophy and so forth, but that's appropriate for you. No, that's fine. The biggest problem I see, and Dennis Prager talks about this too, is that children are allowed to run the house. And we had this whole movement of gentle parenting where, you know, it's not, you know, you're making me angry, but it's more about me and what I have to fix about myself. It's not you being disrespectful.

And it's empowered the child to the point where now we have a bunch of empowered victims, a bunch of champagne socialist kids who don't want to work, who have high anxiety. And they really do. We need to go back to, like, more boundaries, structure. But there's a balance. there's a balance and I feel like we've lost our way and this book brings that back and it's you know discussion questions and activities and you can share this and it opens up a conversation okay yeah uh I read to my son still the nine year old I wish I read to them all I that's one of

the happiest who's reading yeah um it's hard with these kids no we all used to get the same bed together we'd read then my my daughter was the first one to leave the nest and now my son is 12 year old doesn't want to do it anymore. And now it's just me and the nine-year-old. Well, this is a great book, Norm. I'll let you keep it with your nine-year-old. I think you'll love it. Thank you.

And it's short. It's short. You're going to read the book first before because you might start reading it and you'd be like, I can't read it twice, Dan. Okay. Yeah. Listen, my focus group was my kids and their friends and they were all nine to 12.

And it's a short story because we don't have time at night. We just want to get a short story that has me. And then... Does it have bloodshed? He likes bloody, uh, gory, scary stories. I know, so does mine.

No, it does not. Are we winding down? I did want to ask her opinion about the flotilla. Yeah, okay. Um, yeah, and I thought to look that up, go ahead.

Yeah. Because we talk a lot of, just finish that point. Well, because we talk about, not, yeah. Noam talked a lot about, you know,

you can't just say, and said, this is what Sam Harris was saying, he was basically echoing you. That you can't just say, no, it didn't happen. And you don't want to listen to anything. But this flotilla and people,

And many of the flotilla people are accusing Israel of terrible things, including sexual assault. And a lot of people are just saying, nope, didn't happen. All lies. So, you know. Listen, Grita and her crew are just so ridiculous. You know, every time they come, they're sent food. Can I pause you there for one second? Because this might help.

So there is this weird thing with this, I've discovered this, is this accusation of sexual assault. in the left wing world, sexual assault can be talking to somebody. Like they will use, they have expanded this term in such a way that you have no idea what they're talking about anymore. So I just, you know. That's true. Because while I can believe sexual assault behind the wall in a prison, I just find it a little bit hard to believe that, you know, a Flintillardt, Thudberg is going to be sexually.

That is the problem. But when the whole world is watching, you know. Yeah, that's... That's the problem. The whole world is watching the fertility. Don't you think that's kind of a problem? And the fact that New York Times printed this stupid opinion piece about IDF, training dogs to rape women, and that was printed. It's so insanity.

And, you know, but again, the fact that it's even out there, when there's so many horrific things happening that are real in this world. But these bogus stories, but it's because it's back to the digital war. It's the algorithm. It's the confirmation. Oh, of course the Jews would do that. Oh, of course the idea would do that. Because I've seen a thousand videos with other things that I was told that they do. We have disproportionate attention on us. And when Jews misbehave, like when that soldier destroyed that Jesus statue, right, it got so much attention, but Israel, the government, the IDF, were quick to act. That guy got to jail and they apologized. He's not in jail, is he?

Yeah, yes. But the guy, the Palestinian Muslim who beheaded a Jesus statue during Easter, did you see that headline? When they closed the last Christian bookstore in Gaza. But this is an Israeli soldier. It doesn't matter. When an Israeli soldier doesn't, how is it different? than a Palestinian who does it towards statute.

It's somewhat different when it's a representative of the state, but yes, I think it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't matter. And it only matters. No Jews, no news. And that is the problem we continue to face throughout time. Sometimes it's so important that things rhyme. If it leads, it leads.

I mean, does black really not crack or it just... It stretches. It just... If it doesn't... If a glove doesn't fit, you must acquit. OJ would have been languishing in prison if it didn't rhyme. We brought it back to OJ. That may be.

I mean, you think that made the difference? I don't think that would that necessarily made, that rhyme was. From the outhouse to the White House. Yeah. That's not a rhyme. I don't know. Could you have time for more point? Yes, go ahead.

Go ahead. To go back to what she was saying. One of the reasons I left the Democrat Party was because in L.A. Isn't it the Democratic Party? The Democrat. Right. Democrat Party. was in LA.

The Democratic. Yeah. Whatever. Democratic. Public. One of the main reasons I left. Living in L.A., we only had one week, one three-hour slot per week on a Saturday where we could safely go with our American flags and our hats to support our president to back the blue.

It was a diversity of black people for Trump, Asians for Trump, Jews, Arabs. Everyone was there for Trump. that opened me up that I was so afraid to support a sitting president because I feared retaliation. That's how bad the Democrat Party had become. And then when they were forcing vaccine... Why is that a reflection of how bad the Democrat... Well, because they were making the American flag a weapon of terrorism. Who was?

The liberals I was living around. And that was so crazy to me. my parents didn't come to this country for me to feel that I had to hide, that I supported our president, that I had to hide that I'm Jewish. And I just couldn't believe what was happening to the Democrat Party in the name of diversity, inclusion, but as long as you agree with us only. Well, you can feel that way and still be critical of Trump, right? I mean, two things can be true at one. It was beyond the fact that I didn't feel safe to wear, have an American

flag in front of my house, or to wear any sort of MAGA hat without, you know, people I knew, their cars were getting keyed and names being called, what happened to the party? You know, this thing about rhyme. Yeah. How are you getting back of the rhymes? I might have mentioned this last before.

I've been reading a lot of Russian novels lately, and rather than Russian novels, they'll have poetry. And the poems rhyme. In English. In English. So you're saying, The translator had a manipulate the poem.

Yeah, the translator manages to, like, this is incredible. It probably, it probably ruins, like, it probably makes the poetry worse. Like, it'd probably be better if it was, if the translation was more faithful, but it didn't rhyme. It's hard to translate poetry, obviously. But I'm always astonished at how they managed to make these things rhyme. Anyway. Lyrical things work. What's your take on Brothers Karamazza versus Crime and Punishment?

I think you come out in favor of crime and punishment. Yeah, crime and punishment. There was a tweet about this. Yeah, that's why I'm saying. I preferred crime and punishment. Of course, I read crime and punishment during COVID when I had less distractions and I was able to focus more on the book. Brother Karamazov is very, very, very deep, very deep.

And it has insight of plenty into human nature, as is crime and punishment. If you're a proper intellectual, you're supposed to say, you know, like you're supposed to say if you're a stones fan, you love eggs, Exile on Main Street. You don't like sticky fingers. That's, you know, that's for the, this is what it is in, in my, but I happen to think exile on Main Street is, is not their best album. And I prefer crime and punishment, but.

Have you read Anna Karenna? I didn't finish Anna Corinna. I'm embarrassed to say, but I, I'm reading the idiot. Anyway, I, and Brothers Karamazov, I read twice. I read it twice. Now you're just showing off. No, no, I read it twice consecutively because it's so dead. after I finished it the first time,

I felt like I just didn't really... There's so many characters' names in you. And then the second time, it's like the godfather, the movie The Godfather, the second time actually was much better. And I would recommend that. Sometimes if you read a book, which you know is supposed to be very, very good,

but it just doesn't wash over you on the level of its reputation. You should probably read it again. Because the world is usually right about it. Sometimes you read, like I read Gone with the Wind 10 years apart, and it was almost like reading it again for the first time.

Because you're in a different place. Well, I had also forgotten a lot of it, you know. She had another child. That's not even in the movie. Scarlett. Scarlett had, I think, three kids. Yeah, two more children. Yeah, she had, Bonnie, Bonnie was not the only kid she had in the book.

Scholar Hall Harrow was not beautiful, but men seldom notice when caught in her charms as a tall. And then the whole rest of the book basically contradicts that. Because no guy, the guys wouldn't go crazy for a woman that wasn't as good looking. That wasn't good. As Vivian Lay. Yeah, I mean, because the whole book is how. Scarlet, like all the guys were gag-gab, but the first paragraph says she wasn't good-looking.

So I consider that a contradiction. It is a great book Gone with the Wind. Yeah, that's when Hollywood was peaking, was beginning to peak, and Hollywood has left Hollywood in California. Well, I would add the caveat that there are some things in there that are politically incorrect. Dostoevsky talks about the Jews.

He was like some Jew moneylender, like Dostoev is an anti-Semite. So was Shakespeare. Yes, well, maybe, but, but, yeah. All the greats were, weren't they? So was T.S. Eliot. Shakespeare knew had a rhyme. Voltaire?

Voltaire, there's a quote misattributed to Voltaire, that if you want to know who rules over you, then it's who you're not allowed to talk about. But that's ridiculous because, you know, retarded children don't rule over us. Roll doll. He was an anti-Semite. Yes.

Wagner? A lot of these guys rhyme also. Yeah. Mark Twain was not an anti-Semite. What about Tolstoy? The thing about Mark Twain is, he wasn't anti-Semite, but he was, he was very much,

the Jews were occupied more space in his mind. He was fascinated by them. He was fascinated that. He was. He went to a stranger, what's the, you know, travel book about what? Yes. Innocence abroad.

Innocence abroad. Very good, Dan. Innocence abroad, yeah. Well, that's the one that everybody, you know. Quotes. Everybody quotes. It was barren and all that, you know. So, anyway, that's why I know about it.

Anything else? We're somewhat educated a bunch here. Yeah. Well, you know, Sam Harris recently said that Dome was smart. You know, it was doing the best, the best, I don't know. No, he didn't say that. He said that. Yes, he did.

He said, what do he says? Well, I don't know. He said that he covered something. No, he said that nobody was doing it as well as Noam. He said that? Wow. Yeah. I'm not sure I heard that.

Very, quote, unquote, very, very, very accurate as Perry all ever is with a quote. He did. Somebody asked him a question. He was on this show. What show was it? I don't remember. His show. It was his show.

I thought it was somebody else's show. Somebody asked him a question. and he said, well, I don't... They said another show also, maybe, I don't know. And he said that he wasn't going to answer it, but the person who was handling this better than anybody else was... Handling the accusation. Yes.

The Christophe was gnome. And then he said he's a quote, unquote, very, very smart guy. Sam Harris, I was thinking of getting T-shirts me. That's a very, very smart guy. So, no, the contribution to your bringing humor to the world is huge. That's, again, how we combat anti-Semitism. You make people laugh. Yeah, well, I deserve to give him less credit for that.

Chappelle is making people. Chappelle is making people laugh, but I don't think he's combating anti-Semitism. But in any case, I have to defend, not defend is the wrong word. I think that anybody who knows where Dave is coming from realize that he's not coming from anti-Semitic point of view. No, but he's not combating it either, that's for sure. No, well, no, she's not good for. Well, those people, you know, they don't expect us because no-m's a comedy club owner

and they come here and like, oh, this will be easy. Yeah. And then the guys, like, well, you know, you said in this interview on 3rd August, you know. Yeah, I was too busy. I'm so busy with things I'm doing now. I haven't, I didn't get a chance to find everything you've ever said that I want to rake over the calls for no I really wanted to hear about

Charlie Kirk that's really what I want to hear about yeah that issue is really yeah it's listen we lost a good one and the party has not been the same since his assassination and uh but when and listen we have Trump now he he is our ally

they try to take him out too oh my gosh it's so becoming normalized it's terrible it's like another headline Oh, yeah, they tried again this week. It's a crazy world when you have the left justifying violence and then blaming guns for rather than. You are a true believer. Yeah. Yeah.

Were you this nuanced when you were a Democrat? I loved Clinton. I really loved Clinton. But you inhabit the party line with the same. I look at Trump the way I look at Jews. Yes, if you want to find flaws, they're there. But he's good that the good that he has brought to this country and to Israel, our ally. You know, you got to give that an Abraham Accords, historic Abraham Accords.

I mean, the first time ever you have IDF soldiers protecting Arabs at the UAE against Iran. I mean, the entire Middle East is changing because of capitalism, because Trump has been able to make sense to them, that capitalism, over ideology. But answer my question, when you were a Democrat, when you were a liberal Democrat, did you inhabit that party line with the same kind of a scrupulous conformity? What's the word, Daniel? There's a word for this. Fervor. No, no, to stick to something, every contour. Every contour of the parliament, not deviate from the parliad in any way.

No, I deviate. I don't agree on everything. I don't agree on everything. Well, you're a pretty good specimen of a magabroids. I don't think it's wrong. Well, she's like Bacha. Yeah. I like Baja. Yeah. She's great.

I love her. She's a Magadema. I love Baja too. Baja, if you're listening. Yeah. Bata, I would love to come on your show. We can talk about Trump all day. I know you're mad at me, but I love you Bacha.

Why is she mad at you? I don't know, but I was going to call her. Yeah, she's been on, you know, we could. Well, look at, you know, once you've seen someone through action what they're capable of, it's okay to have trust and loyalty. It's like your father. Your father might make mistakes. I mean, I'm saying you love your father.

Your father might make mistakes, but if you know that he's a good guy and you know he has intentions and you know he has done so much for the family, why would you just hold him at a mistake? He made billions. He made billions for the family. We made billions on crypto bullshit paper currency.

Ralph Mangala. Nancy Pelosi, Newsome. I mean, oh, you know, there's, it's, that's everywhere. I, I am, I am with you. And I don't like that. I don't, I don't, I don't like anything where there is a contraindication of like double dipping. I don't think that's kosher, but the truth is there's not real evidence of that yet.

A lot of these things were done when he was not in office with the crypto. He was not in office. It was in between his terms. So until there's actual evidence, I'm not going to believe headlines. Getting back to my Ralph Mangala point. Because Gerald Posner, who we had on the show, interviewed him in like 1986 on Donahue. Because you know, Gerald is 95 years old.

Now, we joke because he looks so young. But anyway, Rolf Mengele refused to tell the Israelis where. He knew where his father was hiding. But he didn't tell. And he said, yeah, my father was horrible, but he's my father. Couldn't give him up. But the Israelis, surely they tortured him. Well, apparently, that's what they do.

They treated Charlie Kirk worse than they treated Mengelah's kid? An interesting point. All right. Anything else do what you want to say? Well, yeah, I want to see one more thing. About Trump? Kind of. Love Trump. Okay.

If Melania would have dropped dead. Call me to the White House. If Melania were to drop dead, would you date him? No, listen, I love Melania. There are a wonderful couple. Listen, you've got to give a lot of credit to Melania. Oh, yes. Will you go as high as 80, a year's old?

No, I'm in a relationship. I'm fine. I have my Israeli Mossade agent. I'm all good. But I wanted to say one last thing because as a therapist, I wouldn't be prudent if I didn't say this. Council culture has led to canceling families.

And the epidemic that no one is talking about enough is the estrangement epidemic. And it's terrible. Because when we see it in our families, the way we're seeing it in our nation, it's shaping our youth. And we do need, you know, listen, I'm a Trump supporter, but that means I'm not going to hate you for not supporting Trump.

We have to come back to nuance and grace and conversations like we used to. Like, oh, I disagree with you, but I don't, I still like you. He's really leading the charge on that. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think he's a brilliant brander. And I think, you know, he's not filtered. But I'd much rather have a guy say something unfiltered and be honest than have someone like Biden who's reading a teleprompter and says all the right things, and then he's, you know, the autopin guy who doesn't know anything that's going on, and that's scary too.

So I think we just need to start talking to each other again, and it's okay to agree to disagree and still get along, and that's what we just have to do as a nation. Why are you taking the gone with the windmill? How great is that show? Listen, I love Larry. He's left is left, but he's hilarious. You'll like this.

Trump went to my high school. What? Yeah. Like you went to my high school. By the way, his father did all these wonderful things. He had such a respect for the Jewish community. Let me just, let me just introduce the next show. Yeah.

Two yentas. Go ahead. Continue. Go ahead, ladies. Candace Owens went to my high school. She did stop. Several years after I know. By the way, you said something.

Mark Zuckerberg. to my school. I just want to correct the record because you said something with Ami Kozak's episode, who I love, he's so wonderful. Candice Owens, ironically, was discovered by Jews at the David Horowitz Freedom Center. It was Dave Rubin who introduced him, her to Charlie. It was Dennis Brager who gave her own show. All these Zionists catapulted her career and look where we are now.

So, I mean, the irony of that. Yeah, but I don't like these. I already made my point about that. I get it. But she doesn't all allegiance to any idea that she doesn't believe in because that was the belief system of the person who gave her a break. No, no, no. She has, even Ben Shapiro said, I'm not calling to counsel her.

She's just not working at the Daily Wire. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, we just have to be vigilant. She's a despicable human being. She is. She is the worst. Well, I mean, after October 7th, all we hear all day long is USS Liberty, Christians getting spat on, and the Talmud.

Like, that's all ex-exam. Now, we, just, you know, we had, she says that, Brigitte Macron is a man. Yeah. And we did some very, very important journalism. We had the woman from Snopes here. Okay. Snopes. And after she was finished, we were pretty convinced Brigitte McCrone was a man.

She didn't have a whole lot in the way of it. She didn't have a whole lot of ways. I said, why? I feel bad. Now, can we like her? I said, why are there, why are there no pictures of this woman in high school, you know, in college? Why, like, why is it just one?

It's like a baptism picture is like, you don't understand the French. I'm like, they don't have pictures? Yeah, that's a weak argument. Yeah. We listen, Candace is a phenomenal entertainer and she models her podcast to be true crime, which gives people hooks. Okay. Okay.

Okay. I don't know, no. She has a track. Yeah. But when you, you guys have to stop with that. because there is not one man that we fucking talk about that anybody even mentions what he was like. I said Charlie Kirk. Well,

you didn't say hi. You were afraid to get up. We interviewed Ami I alone and you were afraid to get him off your seat. And the guy we had yesterday was attractive that the Australian guy, a jazzette. It's not the men. It's right. The problem is, guys, is that Candace's show has filled a void of Oprah, Winfrey, talk show host and she's radicalized the moms. That is a concern. Because when you, you know,

the men, Megan is more dangerous than Candace. Yeah, but it's, yeah, but it's, no, I think Candice, well, Candice is losing his credibility, but they're, they're all cuckoo for cocoa puffs, but stay vigilant. Megan is not, Megan is not cuckoo. That's what, that's what, she's a flip flopper. Yes. She's a flip flopper, but it's, so you can't take her seriously. She's so happy to welcome her Muslim audience. Right. But she's, it jumped the barrier from just the cuckoo. to the cynical. Like, I don't know how to explain it. Like, she's...

Salacious, not cynical. Cynical, giving her credit. She's salacious. Opportunistic. Yeah. Well, no, I don't mean slays. I mean, Candice is crazy. Okay.

And Megan, we think, understands what she's doing and is doing it for venal reasons. That's the right word, Dan? Yeah. It's attention grabbing. She's getting financially rewarded for it, and she's getting more influence. and that's the high that people have today.

And I don't really, I don't believe Megan Kelly's an anti-Semite. And yet, and yet, she fans the flames. She's laying down with them. Yeah. You know, who else is attractive? Danielle Blu. Oh, thank you guys. This was so much fun.

What about Trump? When it was young? Listen, Trump women are hot women because we like to be women, you know? We don't have any problems being women. Ivanka is not bad, as Donald has said. Yeah. Okay. Can we not end on that?

I didn't think that he said anything so terrible. I thought it was an odd comment. Well, he was looking at it from a manager's perspective. Okay. Ew, that's disgusting. Oh, that's, I don't think. Is that worse than that Carrie Elway is posting that picture of his daughter? That was also weird.

You know what? The people who were complaining about that's disgusting. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're sitting through 10-minute compilation videos of Joe Biden's sniffing little girls. And they're making excuses for it. And his 15-year-old daughter wrote that she forced her shower. Yes. In the shower.

In her diary, in her diary, good memory. I'm not familiar with it. In her diary, Biden's daughter said, dad came in the shower and I think it was inappropriate or something like that. You're right. You're right. Look at me in a brief. Yeah. That's right.

I forgot all about that. Yeah. That's awful. So let's not, you know, Those who are living in glass houses should not throw stones. Let's focus on policy and building bridges. And building bridges. Those who put their daughters in glass,

buying glass showers. Good night, everybody. Thank you very much, Daniel. That was fun. Yeah, very good.