The Comedy Cellar: Live from the Table - Cipha Sounds, Chris DiStefano, Jordan Carlos, and Ray Ellin

Episode Date: February 2, 2018

Cipha Sounds is a New York City-based radio DJ and comedian. He may be seen performing regularly at the Comedy Cellar and on the TruTV show, "LaffMobb's Laff Tracks."  Chris DiStefano is a New York City-based standup comedian. He may be seen performing regularly at the Comedy Cellar. Jordan Carlos is a New York City-based standup comedian. He may be seen performing regularly at the Comedy Cellar. Ray Ellin is an Aruba-based standup comedian. He may be seen performing regularly at the Comedy Cellar and at his Aruba-based comedy show, "Aruba Ray's Comedy."

You're listening to The Comedy Cellar, live from the table, on the Riotcast Network, riotcast.com. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to The Comedy Cellar show here on Sirius XM, channel 99. My name is Noam Dwarman. I'm the owner of The Comedy Cellar. I'm sitting at the back table with my very, very good friend, Mr. Dan Natterman. Nine years friends on Facebook. We just celebrated our Facebook friendiversary. Were you like my first friend? How could Facebook be around

for nine years already? Facebook's been around for a lot longer than nine years. How long has Facebook, Jordan? Wait, wait, wait. And we're seeing Mr. Jordan Carlos, a new comedian on The Senior. And Mr. Sypha Sound.

Hey, what's up? What's up, man? Legendary comedian and New York DJ extraordinaire. It's the other way around. Well, not only... Legendary DJ and New York DJ extraordinaire. It's the other way around. Legendary DJ and okay comedian. And okay comedian. And I never listened to Cypher.

What's the station you are on? I was on Hot 97. I believe this was what we called. All the girls I was interested in always listened to that station. It's what they call an urban station. My wife is listening. It's actually a rhythmic station, Dan. Is it a rhythmic station?

Well, I don't know what the distinction is. I've never heard that. I don't know what the distinction is between rhythmic and... The distinction is we get a little bit more white advertising dollars. Okay. Well, those white advertising dollars are always welcome. The white advertising goes a long way. To answer your question, I believe Facebook was started in 2005, along with YouTube.

Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, yeah, about 2005. I mean, it goes fast. Time goes fast. Yeah, these kids, they grow up, you know? So, Dan, you had some stuff you wanted to talk about. What was it? Well, there's stuff that everybody's talking about.

What's that? Go ahead. Well, there's Scott Baio. What happened to Scott Baio? You haven't heard about Scott Baio? No. Well, he was accused of, I remember, Charles in Charge. Yeah.

Chachi. You talk about white advertising dollars. Charles in Charge had him. Yeah, he definitely had him. That was a sitcom back in the late 80s, early 90s, or whatever it was. And Nicole Eggert was his co-star, and she started at, I guess, 14-ish. So she says that he fingered her or something like that at 14 and he was about 28ish. Oh.

Right. Every week. But then she said, or then he said that she, well, this is true. She was on the radio and said that she had lost her virginity at about 18 to Scott Baio and that it was her idea for them to have sex. So he's saying, well, wait a minute. If I molested her at 14, why would she want to have sex with me at 18?

That's his argument. That could happen. But it certainly could happen. Yeah, yeah. Man, Charles is in charge, huh? I used to watch that show every... Well, he was in charge. Definitely. That's what's being said. As the song goes, of our rights and our wrongs.

The wrongs are all the sweeter. I used to watch that show every week. I mean, when I heard that about Eggert and about Scott Baio, I was like, I felt a little bit of my childhood died. But your childhood's been dead anyway. What would Bill Cosby?

You're right. You can't kill it twice. Well, apparently you can. Apparently you can No, even worse than that You know, Florence Henderson and Greg Brady You know? What? They were getting it on?

What? One of those Brady boys That's old news I think, no, they went on a date They never had any intimacy My childhood is different, Dan I'm older All right

You're not older than me No, I'm not older than you Wow So what do you believe? Do you believe her? Do you believe her? Do you believe him? How do you say? It's very hard to say.

You know, I'm never in any of these sex scandals. And I like to believe this is the podcast of record for all things sex. We got an email from Nico Perino from the fire. He says, enough with the Me Too stuff. But go ahead. I can't get enough. Go ahead. Well, he says enough with the Me Too stuff. Go go ahead. I can't get enough. Go ahead. Well, he says enough with the Me Too stuff.

That's his opinion. Who's Nico Perino? The free speech guys. They do the free speech for the universities. Okay, alright. He supports free speech and he's had enough of Me Too. We talk about it a lot. On this show.

But I've never wanted... A lot of people, whenever there's a scandal that breaks, they either say, I believe her or I believe him. Right. And I always say the same thing. I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know. Can I give a shout out? I'm trying to be urban. Can I give some credit to Alec Baldwin, who very, now, don't get me wrong. On this show, I've always said that I thought Woody Allen was guilty. Haven't I always said that? You said that there seems to be a reasonable... I don't think you said he was guilty for sure.

You said it looks fishy. No, I read the court case, and I believe for a long time that that sounds like he did it. I always said that. But I don't know that he did it. And everybody's jumping on the Woody Allen did it bandwagon. And Alec Baldwin, who has a career to worry about, bravely came out and said, listen... Came in at the right time. We're talking about Woody Allen. He came out and said, listen,

you don't know that Woody Allen did it. One kid says he did it. The brother says he didn't do it. Why do you think you can believe one brother, not the other brother? But most of all, he's not afraid to go out there in a very dangerous climate and say what he thinks about this.

And I admire him for that because we don't know that Woody Allen did it. No, the Woodster. We knew that Bill Clinton probably did it. We didn't care, but we don't know that Woody Allen did it. My lawyer who represents me... Chris DiSifano. Hello.

My lawyer who represents me in my custody hearings with my kid represents the victim and says he definitely did it. I think he did it. That's what she says, the lawyer. Represents Dylan Farrell? First of all, what about client...

I think you were supposed to say that. Well, I didn't say the lawyer's name. Confidentiality. You don't have to be confidential. You can't be confidentiality. That's a confidential lawyer. No, that's okay. That's public.

I just wanted to lower my monthly payment. I want to. Jesus. I didn't know I fucking had a baby with a Lamborghini. Christy Savano, welcome back to our program. Thank you. When last we saw you, I guess, I don't remember because you were on the show some months back or whenever it was.

Yes, yes. And I believe you were, I had just, at that point, you and your baby's mama had just parted ways. Yes. And so I guess it hasn't obviously been rectified. Well, it's better. We're better co-parents, but yeah, it's, you know, it's still there. The money's still, yeah, I still need

as many spots as possible for the next 16 years. I still need something to hit. Okay. Yes. Big time. Well, we all do, but I guess you more than... Well, now it's like I'm envious of people who, you know, who have... who tell me their monthly nut,

and they're like, oh, I gotta get the next gig. I'm like, really? That fucking... what you pay in a month, I would... that would be three days of what I have to fucking pay. It is amazing how much you can save by not having kids. Oh, big time. And they don't teach you this in school. They do not. They teach you study hard.

They don't say study hard or don't have kids. Well, it's funny because his baby's mom is saying, it's amazing how much money you can get by having kids. Exactly. That's just what I was thinking. I was like, if there's a whole other school of people, I'm like, oh no. They should teach you fucking who to look for. Really, which side you're on.

Oh, God, did she hit the lotto. That's one kid. It is only one child. It's one baby, which is not bad. And she's great. My kid is great. I can't complain, but there's a lot of pressure. Can't you get back together with the mom?

You really should. It's cheaper. You know what? It's crazy. My father said the same thing. He said, in this climate, he said, how much you have to pay and in this climate

of everyone getting accused of everything? He said, I would just be with her. I'm like, yeah, but she pulled a knife on me. He's like, I think it's still safer. I think it'd be safer to have... What kind of a knife are we talking about? Listen, my wife... Is it a paring knife?

You think she hasn't pulled a knife on me? Yeah, it happens. This is what you get when you... What kind of knife was it? Kitchen knife? No, it was... Butter knife. It was an attempt knife was it? Kitchen knife? No, it was a butter knife. It was an attempt.

Was it an oyster knife? But yeah, what did you say when your wife pulled... I remember exactly what I said with a knife, but what did you say with your knife?

Well, when she pulled, I immediately apologized. I was like, I'm sorry. Good. Good move. I said, violence is not the answer. So she had the knife in her hand.

But it wasn't serious. First of all, I'm just kidding. It didn't really happen. But if it were to have happened... Me too. It wasn't really a threatening thing. Yeah. But I don't know.

I don't know. But that's not a reason to leave. It was a long time ago. I'm still waiting on that. And of course, I didn't tell you what I did that made her so angry. What did you do? I don't want to say. I'm not going to be that fair to her.

I was DMing porn stars. I got to start the show. Is that true? Yeah. All right. Saifah's going down. Like you do. I guess.

Like you do. Saifah. I guess you had a reason. Well, now you can DM all the porn stars you want. Saifah's going downstairs. He's the emcee on the show. I just want to announce to the audience that Cypher's not here and why he's not here. So you were DMing porn stars.

That's really why she pulled a knife? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she had you. I mean, she didn't hurt you. That's not a reason not to get back with her. Was it Stormy Daniels? I probably should just. You just saw how much she loved you.

I know. I probably should. I mean, it's so fucking expensive this way. It's literally, I just watch each month my money go down by a lot. But it goes up, if you think about it, if you're short selling, it goes up in Delilah's account. That's true. It does go into her, but it's a lot. So it didn't go. Now you just got to be nice to her and she'll splurge. I also just bought my first place, so that's like that's a big thing to down payment.

No, you should get back. That's for your daughter. All my friends who have money, like you guys have always told me, you, Dove, always said you don't want a lot of money in your account anyway. You want to be diversifying it, right? I never told you that. You never told me that? Maybe Dove told me that.

I think that's right. I think that's good advice, but Dove gives a lot of financial advice. He does, yeah. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. He's very good. The J word keeps coming to mind. He does, yeah. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. He's very good. The J word keeps coming to mind. I don't know.

Oh, yeah. I'll tell you, he's not as Jewish as Ray Allen. Not that J word. Oh, really? No, I'm kidding. Go ahead. I had to cancel an Aruba gig, the Aruba gig, because I got a better gig that was paid three times as much. And Ray is charging me for the flight cancellation fee. I have to

vend him $125. Okay, now let's examine that. It's fair. Okay, it's fair, but it's peanuts. It's not enough. It's peanuts and give him his peanuts. Alright, I look. You're the one making three times more. It's not enough. You're right. It's not a number where he should be okay asking

for it and I can't really get upset giving it to him. It's just, you're right, but it's just something that I'm like. There's a principle and I can't really get upset giving it to him. You're right. But it's just something that I'm like that. There's a principle, and I stand by this principle, that if you do something that's better for you, and it causes a financial effect on someone else, an innocent person, it's out of their control, then the presumption is that you should take care of that. You're talking about sunk costs. Fair enough.

I'm making a decision. I got a gig. I make three times as much. Sorry you bought me that ticket. That's on you. No, that's not fair. I just hate Ray Allen's profile picture on his Venmo.

He's wearing a scarf. He looks like a fucking idiot with his Boston Red Sox hat. I think that was the bigger issue. You're 100% right. It's very painful to give Ray Allen

his due on anything. I understand that. But, and I'm finding as I get older, I'm quite unique. Do you want to invite Ray Allen to defend himself? Yes, I would love to. You can tell him. Well, you can tell him to come. Come if he wants to.

I'm quite unique. I have quite a unique personality trait. I am able to easily, without effort, separate my personal feelings from the logic of a situation with a person and apparently that's a very difficult thing for people to do

like if you were costing me money you'd be like oh here's you wouldn't even think twice you'd be like here's the money here's the money

yeah but because it's Ray it's fuck him it's different it's fuck him there's gotta be a reason I should never do that well because you treat the scarf

yeah well because I'm sick and tired of fucking it's the scarf and the hair I'm sick and tired of this world that you know scarf and the hair, I think. I'm sick and tired of this world that, you know, the cucks are fucking running the world now in 20... It's a cuck fucking world, and it's gross.

And now we teach our kids, everybody's equal, you know... Can you explain what a cuck is? What's a cuck? A cuck... First of all, cuckled, the word cuckled, Shakespeare invented this word. It's a dude whose wife cheated on him? It's a dude...

Well, that's what he meant for it in Othello, but now, then it's transformed into, now it's a guy His wife cheated on him It's a dude Well that's what he meant For it in Othello But now Then it's transformed Into now it's a guy You're just such a pussy And a pussy of a man That you would let your wife Have sex with another man In front of you

Is this because we can't Say the F word anymore Probably Okay Yeah But yeah But until Until that's law

Until that's law I'm just gonna keep saying And usually I say cuckold So I'm saying Listen I'm not you know So Ray's a cuck Ray's such a pussy Heuck. And usually I say cuckled. So I'm saying, listen, I'm not, you know. So Ray's such a pussy, he would let you bang his wife? No, Ray's not.

Well, Ray has a cuck look. Cuck tendencies. Yeah, Ray has a cuck look. But certain people just, you could tell. Like, they have whistleblower face, you know? Like, Jordan looks like a whistleblower. I'm not a whistleblower. You're not. You're not.

You're not, because I know you, and I know you're not a cuck or a whistleblower. But if I walk past you On the street I would look at you And be like Look at this fucking whistleblower He's probably the guy That makes the decisions

At fucking Netflix You know That's what I would say Well Yeah That is my dream Yeah But Jordan's a good guy

And he wasn't Bay Ridge I'm not gonna rat you out But But I don't see the relationship Between cuckold And your anger about giving Ray Allen $150. Oh, no, no. My anger was...

I went off cuck because... I think there's many reasons. We said something about... I said I wouldn't treat Gnome the same as I would treat Ray because Gnome is more powerful, more influential, more manly, and yeah. Gnome can damage me more than Ray can, more influential. More manly. More manly.

And, yeah, Noam can damage me more than Ray Kent, so I'll treat him differently. Oh, so it's nothing to do with principle. No. But I'm comfortable staying in that honesty where I feel like a lot of people now want to just lie about it. And it's like, no, the truth is what it is. Like, I'm not a Trump supporter. I'm not. But you can't.

What he said yesterday, he didn't say anything really crazy yesterday. He was pretty much on brand as Donald Trump. And people like, eh, I'm just done with the crying. It's like, stop fucking crying. He's the president. You're just going to have to fucking deal with it. Stop throwing shoes. The people are throwing shoes and banana peels at walls yesterday. Did that happen?

Yeah, I saw something on NBC. Oh, I bet you meant at the State of the Union. Some party. Some party, they're throwing shoes at Ben. It's like, look, I don't like the guy either, but it's like, just fucking, can you stop being such a fucking pussy for once in your life? I agree. Just stop.

I blame Mueller. Yeah. I mean, I blame Mueller because, not because I blame Mueller. I should say it back. I just wish they would wrap it up already. Yeah. I'd be telling, like, enough. Yeah.

If they have, this is what I think about. I know Dan will talk about it. If they have evidence that he colluded with Russia, tell us now and let's get on with it. Do it. And there's a good argument for that.

The other argument for that is that if he's a Russian agent, every day he's in office is a risk. Absolutely. So, I'm afraid they don't have any,

I'm pretty sure that they don't have evidence that he colluded with Russia. In which case, this cure is much worse than the disease. They're putting the country through all this. They're never going to get 67 votes to take this guy out of office for obstruction of justice, for covering up a crime, for covering up an investigation.

I'm sorry, for thwarting an investigation that would have found him innocent. Absolutely. Nobody gets convicted for that kind of obstruction. You get convicted of obstruction when you're covering your tracks. If there were no actual tracks, he's going to stay. So wrap this up. If he's guilty, get him out. I'll give you another Shakespearean term. I just think there's a lot of skull

duggery going on. Is that Shakespeare? That's Shakespeare. It just means a lot of crazy, mishegas, kind of crazy shit. That's not Shakespeare. That's Merchant of Venice. But what I'm trying to yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's Merchant of Venice. But what I'm trying to say is this. Scott Duggar is Merchant of Venice. No, Mishigas.

Because there's a Jewish person in it. There you have it. So here's the deal. I think what it, I mean, I think Trump is making it worse for himself, though, a little bit. Right. With all the fire this guy, fire that guy, like, you know, this FBI thing. I'm like, I'm not thinking about it.

You're bringing it up. Yeah, but you got to say this. Yeah, of course it makes sense. You want to say something? But I have the answer. Go ahead. No, go ahead. No, go ahead.

You go first. Well, no, I was just like, I'm not going to even pretend to say, like, I don't, you know, I'm not a political mind. I mean, I understand things very basically. But what I do know is, like, in history, like, you know, Socrates, I love thinking about like Greek thinkers. I just thought they were so dope. Socrates said this was the flaw in democracy from the beginning. Socrates hated democracy because he said once you give the power of the people to vote, inevitably you're going to invent a demagogue.

And people are going to start to have a lot of problems because voting should be a skill. And you need to teach voting in school. and not everybody should have the right to vote just like that's why twitter is a big problem because you're not supposed to hear everybody's voice and then when you start to hear everybody's voice you start to real you know people aren't fucking killing themselves make it stop make it stop it's like yeah because it's not that's not what this is let me tell you what a cuck you are please do you were i am a cuck you got caught dming a porn star absolutely and your wife and everything yeah it was everything trump yeah i'm fucking cuck you are. Please do. I am a cuck. You got caught DMing a porn star. Absolutely. And your wife, and everything,

he was everything. Trump got caught banging a porn star and his wife shut up and took it and came to the State of Union, all right? Exactly.

I am a cuck. Listen, I am the fucking emperor of Cuckstaff and Opal. Davos. I'm a cuck. Chris, I remember I was talking to you

a few weeks ago, you were in some sort of spiritual quest. Wait, can I say the last word about Trump? Yeah, say your last word about Trump. You have to look at it from two vantage points, and people have trouble with this.

One vantage point is, yes, he colluded with Russia, in which case everything he did was to cover his tracks. That's easy. The other vantage point is he didn't collude with Russia, and now I got elected. He's got a fragile ego. That's easy. The other vantage point is he didn't collude with Russia. Right. And now I got elected. He's got a fragile ego. He says he had the most turnout for the inauguration.

Sure. This is how fragile he is. And everybody's trying to make the case that you didn't really win. You won because of Russia. Right. And we're going to stop your agenda. And we're going to drag you down. And he's like, fuck you.

Fuck you. Fuck you, Comey. Now imagine, let's imagine imagine let's say you didn't do it and call me tells you we know no you're not being investigated three times you really tell me you're not being investigated for the Trump says can you just go out in public and tell the people that I'm not being investigated so I can get no I'm not gonna tell him imagine the fucking rage this guy's Donald Trump I would go into rage sure no Trump goes into a rage. So he looks to get rid of him.

Now, who's Comey? Comey's the guy who investigated Hillary Clinton. Comey got him elected, though. Comey's the guy who investigated Hillary Clinton, found her innocent, and ruined her. And Trump says, oh, is this the guy that's going to investigate me? Maybe he'll find me innocent and ruin me, too. If you can look at it down the path that he didn't do anything, there's such another explanation for all of it.

Well, you can put your, oh, wait, it was Keith Robinson. You can put your thumbs down, but this is logical talk, whether he wants it or not. Now, if he did it, as I said, then it's easy. Get rid of him, whatever it is. But if he, who obstruct obstructs if you were accused of murder sure and you know

you didn't do it right do you think you would resist any chance you had to fuck up that investigation

not at all of course not that's obstruction of justice but yeah that's it is yeah yeah but nobody's gonna

put you in jail when they turn out you didn't they're gonna if you didn't do it if you didn't do it nobody doing I don't believe

anybody doing time for obstruction of justice for a crime that they were wrongly accused of. Maybe if you lied under oath. Well, what about the fugitive? Now, Bill Clinton, hold on. Bill Clinton actually did obstruct justice and did the perjury, and he wasn't even removed from office for that with obstruction. Right.

Now, you can remove somebody for obstruction when they didn't do the crime? He was censured and he was impeached. But not removed. But here's the thing. You were talking about wrapping up that investigation and that investigation in the 90s, I was reading about it and it started about the Whitewater scandal, right? That's what Kenneth Starwood was

looking into. Then it ended up with BJ's. Paula Jones, yeah. Paula Jones too? It was Paula Jones as well? That's how it started. It started with Paula Jones? Yeah, in the White... Kenneth Starwood asked Bill Clinton had he had sex with anybody. Oh, no, no. It was... I think... I how it started. It started with Paul Jones? Okay. Yeah, in the white... Ken Starr asked Bill Clinton had he had sex with anybody. Oh, no, no. It was...

I think... I don't remember. I'm just saying these things take turns. They take turns and a twist and it's crazy. By the way, who...

You're right. Sorry. It's a bit of a gear grinder. Who won the Grammy for best comedy album? Chappelle. Was it Chappelle? Was it Chappelle?

It was Chappelle. Okay. Gear Grinder. Well, you know, because we're probably shifting topics. But I think Noam had said what he needed to say. But maybe he was still on the 50. But if we let it, it'll go on forever. No, no.

It's just going on and on. This is going on as long as the investigation. At some point, you've got to... At some point... Talk about his religious... I will, but I just wanted to know who won the Grammy. At some point, Talk about his religious I will, but I just wanted to know who won the Grammy. Dave Chappelle, you knew that. I didn't know that, number one. Number two, question.

You could have Googled it while you were tuning out when he was talking. I could have done so. Please do. But that wouldn't have been a discussion. But my question is this. Do you agree with me that a Grammy, that's not a real Grammy. A comedy album? A comedy album is not a real Grammy? A comedy album? Why is a comedy album?

A comedy album is not a real Grammy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. To me, a Grammy is about music. That's it. Yeah. You want to sit down, Keith? Keith, you say no. A Grammy is about music.

When you say that, word association game, Grammy. Music. Music. Thank you. I do believe that whatever category of comedy album maybe if I can agree, I can see what you're saying on, maybe that shouldn't be in the Grammys. But I do believe Chappelle

you know, whatever. Maybe there should be a specific comedy awards or it should be. I have no problem with the, if you're going to have a Grammy award for best album, I'm not going to argue with the Chappelle choice. My thing is get fucking comedy the fuck out of the Grammy.

Get it out of there! Get it out of there! If it's sound, it's a Grammy. It's an award. Get it out of there! And at least have the decency not to show up at the after party with your fake Grammy. Do they do best podcast yet in Grammys?

They're going to do that. That's coming. That's coming. It's inevitable to do best podcast. Chris, according to the word on the street, you've become a religious fanatic. No, no. Chris, it came to me a few weeks ago. I didn't know you were religious.

In crisis. It's not that I've become a religious fanatic. I was born Catholic. I have Catholic tattoos all over my body. It's true. For a month, Mo Amir, great Muslim comedian who's here all the time, slept on my couch. You became his. So I went on a jihad for a couple of weeks there.

Then I was on a six-hour flight that got delayed. Emergency landing next to a Jewish rabbi. And I picked his brain. So I had all the religions. How much did it cost you? I know. For free? Yeah, he just was talking.

He was actually talking my ear off. He was a little buzzed. That explains it. Just some questions about my own kind of spiritual journey and what I've been taught. I don't want to say they're lies, I mean, I guess in all religion, religion is all lies in a way. It's not lies.

It's all lies. It's lies. I thought you said he was religious. I didn't say, I thought he was having a religious crisis. Oh, okay. I said he was in a religious crisis. It's all mythology. It's all mythology.

And it's all like, they're all supposed to be like, you know, parallel thinking kind of thing. It's not, you're not supposed to take it as truth. I think a lot of people take it as truth. But I do believe now that religion, from the beginning of time, religion has caused probably almost all the wars. No, that's not true.

Most of them. What about the rap wars? 90%. Well, rap is their religion. It's always like... Okay, fine. No, the Second World War wasn't religious. That's a big one.

That was nationalism. Well, yeah, but... First World War wasn't religious. Yeah. But I nationalism. Well, yeah, but... First World War. Yeah. But I feel like if you had no religion... You're blowing it. If you had no religion at all, if you just had no sex at all, then I think it would just be... You know, I have a big problem with this whole centralized power thing anyway. Let me tell you what the reality is.

Diversity doesn't work. Of course it doesn't. You got to know who's in charge and who's not in charge, otherwise society doesn't work. I have a feeling Noam's using our discussion of religion to talk about something he really wants to talk about, which is get the Mexicans out! We either have

to all interbreed and become one color, like my family. You gotta all mix. But what will not work is a society of everybody emphasizing their own differences as being But again, I say to you, again, I say to you, again, I say to you, perfectly interesting discussion. That's the world wars.

What does this have to do with DiStefano's religious crisis? Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well, no. That's all I wanted to say. But you came to me. You wanted answers. Oh, because about Judaism specifically. What's all I wanted to say. But you came to me, you wanted answers.

Oh, because about Judaism specifically. What's the answer? What's the question? The question was about, because I think the reason why my own thinking is that guilt, Catholicism is guilt, guilt, guilt, guilt. I've lived with guilt and anxiety my whole life. Well, you know what you did. You know what you did.

I did have premarital sex. You did lose your daughter. You know what you did. I did have premarital sex. You did lose your daughter because you couldn't keep it in your pants. Yeah, because I got one fucking Ginzu held to my neck. Don't be guilty about it. Yeah, so it was a Ginzu.

We found out. It was an Arkansas toothpick. I DMed one fucking Tranny porn star and my whole fucking life started. No, I'm not young as pop. Diversity, which brings us back to diversity.

No, it was about, because in Catholicism, what you do here on Earth places you in the afterlife. If you're a bad person, you can go to hell or purgatory. But in Judaism, from what I was saying, and I know that you said that there's a place, a purgatory place, but for the most part, even if you're a, when you're a Jew, you're just a Jew. You can't be a shit Jew. You can be.

You can be a not good person, but that's not going to change where you're, when you're in the dirt, you're in the dirt. There is no emphasis on- Is this the rabbi told you this? That rabbi and coach? He used like different, more Jewish terms that I was disgusted by. No, I'm kidding. No, he was saying it in like he was- Did he talk about the Schwartzes?

No, no. The truth, but I told you- We know the words. We know the words. He did somewhat say that. Jump in, yes. We know the words. We know the words. He did somewhat say that. Well, that's not what I was taught. As I told you, that there is a world to come.

That's what it's called, the world to come. And anybody can get in. You don't even have to be Jewish. Okay, but let me ask you guys a question now. Anybody can get in. Say no murdered someone. In Catholicism, no murder someone, that's a mortal sin. He's going immediately to hell.

You don't murder anyone. Unless he confesses. But a mortal sin, you have to be absolved by the Pope. Oh. That's the venial sins and mortal sins. Oh, okay. So if he murders someone and you don't, you're telling me that he's going to a different place than you are? Well, there's different schools of thoughts. Some Jews believe in some sort of, I think, punishment after.

But mostly it's just you don't get the world to come. As I was taught, you don't get the next world. No one will rot in the ground, and I will go to the next world. Oh, so there is an emphasis. So in your belief, then, under that scenario. Yes, it's called the next world. It's, you know, I guess it's like heaven. I don't know what goes on.

The rabbi didn't mention it. The pastrami is always perfectly lean. Oh. In the next world. Is the next world Katz's? Oh, nice. Is that Woody Allen Jones? Katz's is the doorway.

It's not the next world, but Katz's is in the next world. But don't you think like Catholicism, because you get the Holy Roman Empire after the Roman Empire fell. You guys had like all this time in the Middle Ages where like, you know, these cappuccino monks were just coming up with crazy shit. Roman Empire fell. You guys had all this time in the Middle Ages where these

cappuccino monks were just coming up with crazy shit. Of course. They were just coming up with crazy wild shit. 325 years after Christ died is when they started to make calendars and say this is when Christ lived, this is when he died, this is the stories. It's all bullshit. So Chris, at this point in your spiritual quest,

you don't believe in God anymore. At this point, your spiritual quest, you don't believe in God anymore. At this point, because I've come so far down the line of Catholicism, I'm not going to, you know, am I going to die for the religion? No. But I'm not going to sit here and be like, I'm a strict atheist. You don't know. I just don't know. That's how I am.

I'm too dumb and small to know. I do believe that most likely, most likely, where it's probably some simulation and this is all we were created by. There is a God. I don't know if it's my God or your God, but somebody created us. Maybe it's a higher race. Maybe we are the gods. I don't know. Let's get the urban view.

I don't know what God is. I feel like that's a word or a term that people use. I personally, this is Cypher speaking, I personally like the word the universe. You know what I'm saying? Like you ask for things in the universe, you get them back. I don't know what the actual, if I didn't see it, I don't believe it. And that's that. I believe there's something that created us or whatever the function was to create humanity or the world or the planet,

but I don't know what it is, so I can't follow anything in particular. I like my beliefs. I take a little bit from here, a little bit from there, things that make me feel good about myself. I try not to harm others, and I live a life. But I feel like people who are so religious worry so much about the afterlife, they ruin this life. Right.

Sure. Or they have a possibility to ruin it. Right. I agree with you. Well, I would say this. It doesn't sound like you have a problem with believing in God, whether God is real. It sounds like you have a confidence, a lack of confidence in God. It's not even...

Like you don't believe in... Like he can't do it. I don't believe in God. It's not even that. It's not even that. I just believe that... Does that make sense? Yeah, I do.

But it's about the... Yeah. Get in there. It's just about that. I just believe that. Does that make sense? Yeah, I do. But it's about the Catholic. Yeah. Get in there. It's just about the specificity of a Catholic God or a Jewish God or a Muslim God. It just seems a little absurd. But that's all man-made. It's man-made. They're all man-made.

So I think whomever, whatever higher power we all believe in. Because every religion. Right. Every religion. There's three main ones. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. And Mark Anthony. Within all those religions, and Mark Anthony.

Oh, that's my Jesus. In all those religions, they all split somewhere. So then there's all these different sects of one religion. Martin Luther. Yeah. Who's right? I don't think anybody. I think nobody.

The truth is, if anybody tells you they know, they're lying. Yeah, nobody knows. No one knows. You don't know. Keith Robinson wants to say something. Come on, Keith. Legendary. I picked a religion with the best afterlife program.

The best afterlife program? Who has the best afterlife program? Honestly, the best is Islam. The Hindus. Christianity. What do we have? What do they have? Golden streets and mansions. Golden streets and mansions.

That sounds like black church. That's black heaven. That's black heaven. Yeah, that's black heaven. You just want to make it out of Philly. Black heaven comes from slavery. Do you know there's a gospel song that I used to sing as a child

that was a Negro spiritual. It was like, there are... They talk about the things. It's like, there are streets of gold in the heaven I know. It's so bad for black people back then. The song was, the lyrics went, there are a pair of shoes in the heaven I know. A pair of fucking shoes.

That was heaven. That's how bad it was. If you don't have shoes, that pair of shoes would be heaven. That's what I'm saying. It's crazy, but that's black heaven. You get Jordans. Do you ever hear a song? I won't you sit down, Lord, I can't sit down. I won't you sit down, Lord, I can't sit down.

I won't you sit down, Lord, I can't sit down. Just got to heaven, gotta look around. With them children dressed in white. Let's hope it all do do I guess it's a good My father for some reason knew that song He used to sing that song, I love that song This is a good moment maybe to explore

Maybe a good moment to explore a little bit about Jordan Carlos because I don't know much About the guy Love Jordan, I like to stay in the shadows Where did you grow up? Grew up in Texas, Dallas, Texas. Spent my summers in Mississippi. Because I don't hear an accent.

And you spent your summers in Mississippi. Yeah. And I'm not hearing any trace of an accent. My dad's from Michigan. He despised the southern accent, so he said you can't talk like that. He said speak distinctly. And a lot of people from Dallas don't speak with an accent.

The accent they have is very light. Like, if you listen to Owen Wilson, how he speaks, he talks like that. That's usually how people talk in Dallas. That's the Dallas accent. That's not a bad Owen Wilson impression. Thank you very much. Pretty much not bad. Sometimes people from Atlanta don't have southern accents,

or sometimes people from the tonier neighbors of Boston don't have that accent. Oh yeah, the Brahmins. Well, the Brahmins, I guess, but so, you know. I mean, it's like, listen, sure, if you go west of the city

with the clay eaters, yes. Yeah, there's more accents. Clay eaters, that sounds like a derogatory term. Now, Jordan Carlos, Jordan Carlos, you are African-American to look at you. I am. But yet the name Jordan Carlos is Spanish, I would imagine. Well, my grandfather entered World War II at 17 after Pearl Harbor.

So he was an orphan, and he lived in New Orleans. And when World War II broke out, he changed his name to Carlos, from Charles to Carlos, so he could enter the war. So it was a patriotic reason why he did it. Why would Carlos help him enter the war? Because then he can make up an alias. It's an alias. So it's an alias.

He was 17. Oh, I see. Because he would need his parents' permission at 17. So, yeah, he served in the Pacific. Fucking Jonah Ork. Can you imagine lying about your age because you wanted to go to war? Oh, my God. That sense of patriotism back then was crazy. Imagine being a black man in that period of time.

You know, that's a really interesting subject to me because, and maybe you have some, because of your family, you have some insight into it. It does seem like even through the worst of segregation, there in a way was more patriotism. There wasn't this hatred of the, hatred may be wrong, I don't want to say the wrong word, you can describe it

if you want. But this resentment, the resentment didn't match the crime. Right. And nor does it seem to match the crime today.

I mean, the resentment is higher and more intense. Yeah. I mean, the idea of a black guy changing his age to go fight for the,

it's hard to imagine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have any thoughts about that? By the way, Ray, you're a cuck, but hold that thought, Ray, on his head. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Just hold on to that. Just do on that. Go ahead. I think that a lot of people in my family have served. I think, one, my grandfather did it because, you know, just the feeling and sentiment at the time. And he was actually, he's black but French Creole as well. So he passed actually for white and like he was in a white regiment.

He wanted to free Paris. But he did it from Japan. He didn't experience the bitter life of an African-American in America. Not until, although, not until he got to Australia, and then he banged this lady when he was on R&R, and then a black baby came out. And that was a, then he got an honorable discharge. And who was that? And that baby was your dad?

That was not my dad. No, but he had a baby mama like you. Oh, okay. And so, yeah. I so... So you have a... Yeah. I guess I have Australian family. That was what he was saying. Yeah.

Then he moved back to Michigan and started a family. But that was the big controversy. He had to get the fuck out of Dodge. Yeah. But listen, my family has always taken those jobs because they are wonderful government jobs. The government rules are different from the state rules. Now, my family was in Mississippi, so the government, the federal

government would treat you differently than say, the state, obviously, than the state government in Mississippi. You had a good government job. That's what the military was. That's what my Uncle Jay served, what my cousin Reggie served. Yeah, I mean... So the state was such a

villain that to throw in with the federal government was like throwing in with the good guys. Absolutely. You could get a good government job. And now it's not seen that way as much anymore. Makes sense. It's a hand up. It was a hand up and a way out of a certain lifestyle.

Yeah. I mean, now, say what you will about the government, but it's like, yeah. I mean, that's what they did what they did. That's why. It was just so vicious back then, you know, yeah Okay, Ray Allen Ray Allen is Ray. Hi everybody. Now while you're gone This is this is what what do we say about him? Are you okay? Oh I was listening waiting for Ray. What, what did we... I called you. I'll walk in on you. He cost you money?

Straight up. Who caused it, man? No, we were talking about... I was saying... We were talking about cucks and I was like, yeah, Ray Allen's a cuck because of the flight change fee.

Even though it's fair, but I was just... I was just looking for content. I didn't know that it made me a cuck. No, no. I just said... I just got mad

because I just got mad. He went off. I said the bigger reason I had this cuck is because you wore a scarf on stage, and I didn't want to give a guy $125 who has a scarf on. Are you French? Are you French?

Bonjour. But you didn't know that one. No, but it's been backed up. Everybody's on your side, as am I. Oh, were you annoyed? Were you annoyed about it? No, I wasn't annoyed. I just ended up talking about it.

I'm on your side. I'm on your side. Economically speaking, I'm on his side. But, like, you know, whatever. I was bummed you couldn't come to the show. I'm economically speaking on his side. I was bummed you couldn't come to the show. I wanted to talk to you because we had a beef on Facebook. Not a beef, but an argument on Facebook. A friendly discussion. One of the main things I like about Facebook is debate.

Lively debate. That's why it's better than Insta. I'm beginning to hate it, but go ahead. But Ray Allen Is under the impression And is furious in a way It seems to me I don't know about furious He feels that the social media

Twitter and texting Have eroded social skills Sure Interpersonal social skills Yeah And he was upset Because he got into an Uber And nobody

Everybody was looking at their phone I got into an Uber pool I was the first one in the Uber pool Man and woman Got one in the front seat, one in the back seat. Now I see why you want me to give you

$125 for a fucking Uber gig. You're taking Uber pools? Jesus Christ, Ray. It was in Brooklyn nonetheless. Respect yourself.

It was an hour long ride. What? Yeah, a guy in the front, guy in the back. Take the train. It's tough, Chris.

Jesus. I've never Uber pooled, but I always see how Natterman does it. And it was like 12 bucks versus 38. So I'm like, alled, but I always, you know, Natterman does it. And it was like $12 versus $38. So I'm like, all right, I'll spend $12. You do it to try to get pushy, you fucking huck.

Guy and girl get in the car. Guy gets in the back. Girl gets in the front. They both get in. I say, hello. They don't even make eye contact. Guy whacks his head on the door. I said, ooh, are you okay?

Doesn't make eye contact. The entire ride, we go to Brooklyn, it's 54 minutes in the car, about an hour. The kid's looking out, playing a game. She's talking to him occasionally. Nothing. I get out of the car, the driver says, thank you so much. I said, thanks, have a great night. I said, goodbye, guys.

To the two of them. Well, then when you got out there, probably like, that tranny was weird. I don't believe. Good night, everybody. I think it's bad night. You say hello when you get to. Absolutely.

I know you. Well, but let me ask you this. When you get into an elevator, maybe if it's in the building you live in, you might say hi. Generally speaking, I get into an elevator. I don't say hi to the people in the elevator. For the 30-second elevator ride versus an hour-long car ride? What about people? There are certain circumstances

in an elevator. If you do the save, if you do the save and somebody comes on and it's just you and that person. You say thank you. Yeah, you say thank you. No problem. What about on a plane, Ray? Do you talk to your seatmate on a plane? I'll say, oh, hi, how you doing? If they want to engage, I'll tend to. I typically do not. Listen, you're very, what's the word, garrulous?

Garrulous? That's what I'm saying. Here's the thing about Ray Allen. Is that the right word? Ray Allen hates texting. You know why? Why? He likes to talk.

Because Ray Allen has competition now. No, that's what he loves. I'll tell you what he loves. Venmo. In the 1980s, in the 1980s, Ray Allen and the 90s, most guys can't talk to women with the ease that Ray Allen can. Oh, God, yeah. Ray Allen can talk to women with such ease. Most people can't.

Most people need texting. Yeah, I've seen Ray at work, and he always has a beautiful girl on his arm. Well, you're very kind. However, Dan, just saying hello, getting into an Uber is a basic, normal social skill. Well, according to who? Who made up that rule? Well, the other two comics here certainly feel that way. Wait, what?

Just a hello in an Uber? Just a hello, hello, hello. Boom, that's it. That's it. That's all you got to say. No, this is even worse. He said hello, and they didn't even look. That is a faux pas.

But in the Facebook argument, you were upset that they didn't talk the entire time. No. No. I then clarified. I said hello. They didn't even make eye contact. I mean, it was so fucking weird. Eye contact at least.

Just give a nod. Anything. Jordan, it's not fair to you because you haven't seen Ray's ridiculous Facebook posts. This really wasn't that bad of a post. It was pretty normal. Everyone seemed to agree with me except Dan and some awful comic. It's hard to view any of your posts out of the context of all the other posts we've read.

That's not true. You post a picture of your daughter and then you post something from the standard. But Rayon, you made a larger point that social skills are eroding. And I don't think social skills are eroding. I think social skills are what they are. So you don't think social skills are eroding. I think social skills are what they are. So you don't think that people of a certain age lack interpersonal conversations?

I think they wouldn't have said hello to you with or without social media. Well, look, before my phone, when I used to take the train to high school, I had a cell phone, but it didn't have any tech capabilities or anything. That got no service. I remember not talking to people because everyone was reading a newspaper. That's what I'm saying. So it's like there have always been times where in a public setting people are not saying anything because they're preoccupied with something.

People don't like to talk to people they don't know. A girl once gave me her phone number. She's 26 years old. Give me her phone number and says to me, I said, oh, cool. I said, I'll give you a call. She goes, oh, no, no, no, no. Don't call me. Please text me. Don't call me. I find talking socially awkward. Oh, cool. I said, I'll give you a call. She goes, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Don't call me. Please text me. Don't call me. I find talking socially awkward. Oh, good.

Direct quote. What she meant by that, I think, given the context, is talking with somebody you barely know of the opposite sex is extremely awkward. Until it's not. We had already met in person. Talking with somebody on the phone. Only Ray Allen can do this, by the way.

Most people are thrilled that we can text now and don't have to talk to, call a chick up on the phone and talk to her. It's so meaningless when you text. A woman once said to me, I really appreciate how much you think of me and how you text me so much. I'm like, do you know I'm doing this probably half the time I'm on the turlet? What are we talking about? When you're at the beginning stages of getting to know somebody, there is nothing worse than fucking a dead air on that fucking telephone. Alone?

And the commitment by Ray is fantastic. He'll talk to a girl until 5 o'clock in the morning. I like your company. I like your company. He has the sociopath's neck. You're a closer. You're a closer. Oh, God.

He waits it out. That's another issue. He has the sociopath's neck. But we are on polar opposites of this argument. You are an extreme case when it comes to socializing. You don't really like talking to people. No, I'm fine talking to people, but you're at an extreme level of you can talk to anybody, and you don't mind calling up a woman that you just met and having a phone conversation.

No problem. That is very rare. That's very No problem. That is very rare. That's very 90s. That is very rare. Yeah. We used to do it because we had to do it. We had to do it. Now, thank God.

Would you do it on a landline? We can send a text. Oh, a nice, sweet landline with a rotary. And, you know, let's be fair to texting. You can also be a little franker. Like, you can be a little more honest in a text somehow, right? Sure. It's not just, it's both, It's a less intimate form of communication.

It's also a more intimate form of communication. I have tone issues on text. Do you agree with that last point? That texting is... It's both more intimate and less intimate. I think it is. I just think it's less intimate. And because my single friends,

my young single friends, they're always getting ditched by these girls. Are you married? Yeah, very much so. Ten years. I'm done. I saw your wife at Bay Ridge the other night. Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, she was great.

Oh, I'm walking. But you know what? I can't. You see me. I'm done. I'm done. I've retired my jersey. Beautiful life.

Thank you. You use the text. Way out of my league. You use the text. You know that. You can't get caught texting. Nobody's saying not to. You've got to get caught texting. Nobody's saying not to. You've got to talk.

Nobody's saying not to have phone conversations. You use the text to set up an initial rapport with a young lady and then schedule a date. And then if you start to be at ease with each other and you want to have phone conversations, God bless you. How's it been working out? I've got to go. Okay, bye, Jordan. Later to go. Thank you, Jordan. Ray Allen is a... It's going a lot better than it would be if I actually had to call a girl

on the phone because I would never do it. Because it scares the living shit out of me. Yeah, but listen to this. An article I read, this was a couple years ago I read this article, it's probably even more now, people having sex the very first time they meet up is up 70% because of texting. Really?

Because you get, because people feel like, I know, if I text you for two weeks, they feel like, like Noam said, the intimacy, you might have even gotten some naked pictures of each other, you're ready to fuck when you meet. Whereas back, you know, in the 90s, no, you're not, it's going to take two, three weeks of hanging out, five dates. Well, but in the 90s. Sex on the first date is a big thing now.

In the 90s, but what about a phone conversation versus texting? To Noam's point again, I think you're not going to say. You're not going to say as big of a ball as he is. Because I could take a chance and text and say,

you know, let me see that ass. And then no response, say LOL, blah, blah, blah. And then send a picture of something else. Well, you're not going to say that on the phone. Well, from 2002 to 2012,

I had no problems at all just chatting on the phone. Ray is a psychopath. Yeah. Most people can't do that. I'm charming. You're charming? You have the spirit of a grandmother. But most people thank God that those days are over, that you had the days of calling a girl and the phone is ringing and you're half hoping she doesn't answer.

Dan gets especially mad. Dan literally gets mad if somebody calls him to talk. He literally gets mad. No, no, not at all. You got mad just the other days. Yes, because that was a particular situation. I don't want to mention names, but somebody that seemed he was,

I didn't quite feel that he was, sometimes people will try to call you because it's easier to get a favor out of somebody by telephone. And that's what I thought was going on. I might have been wrong about telephone. And that's what I thought was going on. I might have been wrong about it, but that's what I thought was going on. In other words, if you call somebody up and say, hey, can you do this for me? It's a lot harder on the phone to come up with an excuse on the fly and to say no. Texting, you ask me for a favor via text.

I sit down. I say, all right, let me think about a good excuse or why I don't want to do this. When I feel somebody's calling me on the phone to ambush me, then, yes, I will be upset by that. Ray Allen calls me to chat all the time. I accept the call. I'm happy to hear from him because we have a talk relationship. Right.

He doesn't know I masturbate most of the time. That's fine. If I don't know it, go ahead. Yeah. Since we're doing this Comedy Central thing, Ray and I have had to talk on the phone a lot. How does it feel? We've spoken on the phone before this, though.

Yeah. What is with you? And we've had very productive phone calls. And then he puts me on speakerphone. I'm like, take me off fucking speakerphone. Whatever. I have to wipe my butt. Ray Allen loves phone chatting. Did you shit your pants the other night?

He was texting me at 2 a.m. that he was going to shit his pants. I did. You actually shit your pants. I did. True story. That's not true. You did? It was awful.

There was no rest stop for miles. You shit your pants as a grown-up? I had an upset belly. Yeah, it was gross. Well, I've come close. Thanks for bringing it up. Coming close is a lot different than doing it. Thanks for mentioning it.

No problem. That's fine. I'm not a cuck. That's not the truth. You could have denied it, Ray, but you chose to go with it. I could have denied it. Which makes you not a cuck. We've all come close, particularly after I've eaten the hummus here at the Comedy Cellar.

Well, there won't be any hummus in Comedy Cellar Vegas. It disagrees with me. One time I had to get off stage early, and I will admit to this, because I had stomach issues. And the emcee was Seton Smith. And I'm looking for him. He's not there. And I haven't gotten the light yet. And I'm like, I've got to go now.

And I said, okay, thank you. I did my final joke. I said, thank you, everybody. I ran out. I said, Set, thank you. I did my final joke. I said, thank you, everybody. I ran out. I said, Seton, get up there. Then I ran downstairs to the bathroom at the Underground. I was going to say,

you can't shit here. No, at the Underground, it's a nice bathroom, but the caveat there is there's a bathroom attendant. Sure. So I have to walk in there past Ali, I think his name is.

Yeah. He's a beautiful man, a wonderful man. I was a Mr. Day working 13 years, he said. I go into the bathroom And he knows what I'm up to Because I'm in there a long time

And I couldn't look him in the eye When I came out And it took me months To go back into the bathroom So the seat went on stage And you filled your seat I didn't fill anything I ran downstairs

And I did what I had to do But it was embarrassing Because the bathroom attendant You know I love Ali He's a great guy And he the bathroom attendant, you know, I love Ali. He's a great guy, and he's got, and you give him, and I give him a tip, and I take some candies, and everything's cool.

But if you have, God forbid, you gotta go number two. Oh, I have tried. And you know Ali is, when you walk out of that booth, that stall, you know. And Ali knows what just went down. But everyone does the same thing. Ali, I always give him a tip.

He gives me like a handful of mints. There's been times where I've taken like 30-minute shits, and he's been like, one of them days, brother. He's not from Jamaica. He's from Africa, you asshole. All the same to me. No, I'm kidding. But I can't look like this and say that.

Do you like having that male company while you're taking a deuce'm kidding. But I can't look like this and say that. I apologize. Do you like having that male company while you're taking a deuce? Well, him I don't mind. Him I feel like I just have a relationship with him. But in general,

I'm not a fan of the bathroom attendant. I don't like it. I think it deters people from wanting to use the bathroom. I guess there's such a thing. I don't know if there's

such a thing as bathroom attendant shitter privilege that he can't, he's not allowed to tell other people, hey, Christy Stefanoman. You little. Can we plug Michelle?

He's stunk at top. I want to plug Michelle Wolfe. There's a big article in the Daily Beast. Oh, I know you do want to plug Michelle Wolfe. The Daily Beast said, the future of comedy is Michelle Wolfe. I agree. I like hearing that, Michelle Wolfe.

It's a very long article. I don't know if anybody's actually gotten to the end of it, but the first... If the Daily Beast said it, I guess... Congratulations, Michelle. Chris DiCepeno's the Daily Beast. Are you kidding me? A straight white guy?

Maybe 20, maybe 2030, we'll get a straight white guy back in. I guess if the Daily Beast says it, it has to be true. Now that all the great comedy giants have been taken down by sexual harassment, then Michelle Wolf has risen to it. I'll tell you what.

She crushes and her special was great. Yeah. And she works harder than anybody. She's fantastic. Terrific comedy. I love Michelle Wolfe. They should give her the Daily Show. That's what I think.

I would love to see that happen. Get a fucking American back in that seat. Whoa. Whoa. He looked around. I said American. I would. I certainly wouldn't be against having an American.

No. I think they should give it to him. How do you feel about John Oliver? Didn't Trevor Noah say he was going to do it for two or three years and then stop? I think Trevor Noah was great. I think that's what he said. Yeah. I think John Oliver.

I like John Oliver. I think John Oliver is so smart and so funny. I love smart and funny. I do because that's not real. I don't think I'm really that smart. I mean, I am, but I'm like, you know. Yeah, that's not going to carry it away. If you're going to say you're not smart, then just fucking smart. I mean, I am, but I'm like, you know. Yeah, let's not get carried away. If you're going to say you're not smart, then just fucking own it, okay?

I am. Well, because I can't say I'm not smart. I have a doctorate degree, so I am somewhat smart. You know, but. A doctorate. Doctorate. Oh, my goodness. I'm from the streets of Brooklyn.

I have a doctorate degree. You have a doctorate. I'm a doctor. It took you a while to understand why the 125 was coming your way. You don't have a PhD. What the hell are you talking about? I have a doctorate in physical therapy. I do.

You're a doctorate in Stefano? That is true. Really? I swear to God. So in that sense. Physical therapy does not count. I don't know. Hey, I have to go through the curriculum.

Seven and a half years of school. College. You draw a winky and get in. Did you guys talk about the Comedy Central show on this episode yet? I didn't want to talk about it because it makes me too upset. All right. Why are you upset? What are you upset about? Why are you upset now? Is it going to get picked up? Do we have a episode yet? I didn't want to talk about it because it makes me too upset. All right. Why are you upset? What are you upset about? Why are you upset now? Is it going to get picked up?

I feel good about it. We're not done yet. We're still not done with the pilot. There's more notes. We have to go back and change some things, but I feel good about it. You have diversity in there? We do. All right. They said that doesn't matter. They actually do not care what color. They don't care. As long as it's funny, that's what they said. I'm telling you, you better open and close with a

fucking Eskimo if you know what's good for you we got notes and it said P.S. we just want to make sure you guys understand we really don't mind

as long as it's funny we're dedicated to Dr. King's dream that's what they said sure content of your jokes not the that's what they said

why are you upset? I didn't know I didn't know why are you upset by talking about the I shouldn't say I'm not upset it's first of all I'm't know that. Why are you upset by talking about the... I shouldn't say. I'm not upset. It's...

First of all, I'm going to tell you why I'm upset. I'm totally fucking dismissed in this thing. And I get it. I didn't pay for it. I'm not a comedian. Nobody gets it. But Ray will tell you this. I've given like 10 notes since we've done this thing.

Not one of them has been heated and 100% of them has come back in writing from Comedy Central as changes they wanted. Every fucking single note I gave, including down to the length of how long

something needed to be on the screen because it wasn't readable. Every fucking single thing that I said, without exception, I said about there was a joke about somebody saying, maybe the audience is too young for that reference. No, no, it's fine. The editor says, no, no, I asked my

wife, she laughed at it. I'm like, alright. And it just it's upsetting to me because it's my fucking idea, my club, my name on the show, and they dismiss me. Now, I don't blame them. They don't know me, but they dismiss me like I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Well, I mean, every single note I gave came back from Comedy Central.

Ray, am I exaggerating? I think you're correct. I don't know. And not one of them was considered. I think so. I could see how that. I don't know. And not one of them was considered. I think so. I could see how that's very easily taken personal. I really can. I don't think it's personal.

I will say I've dealt with Comedy Central now for four different projects, and every time the executives were the best that I've dealt with. Dealing with executives from other networks has been horrible. The Comedy Central executives have been great. I've been great. I've been great. I got lost then. He was referring to, I think, one of the editors. No, no. We have a team.

Okay. Truly, I'm not blaming them because they don't... They presume that the club owner doesn't know what he's talking about, and they've done many TV shows, and they do know what they're talking about. I'm not...

I'm realistic about it. I'm just saying from my point of view I have so much writing on this and I make a bunch of notes and I constantly just talked over and dismissed and then Comedy Central comes back with their notes after we handed it to them and it's exactly what I've been saying. Maybe he doesn't have a

fucking idea. Maybe he's thinking the way they're thinking. There's no right or wrong, really. You didn't negotiate for yourself a strong enough position in the hierarchy. Not really. No, you're right. I didn't know. I was naive about certain things. You would never give full creative control to anybody.

The only thing I could say, just to be fair, this is why Devil's Advocate. If you're sitting there in the room physically. I was in the room. never give creative, full creative control to anybody. The only thing I could say just to be fair, just to be a devil's advocate, you know, if you're sitting there in the room physically, then they do process more notes. Whatever it is. But I think the show,

we're getting there. You're absolutely wrong. Diversity does not matter. It doesn't matter. Hey, well, listen, I got to run, but before I run, I just want to say,

why did you say that about diversity? What do you mean? Why did you think that diversity would matter? Diversity would matter? Yeah, why did you say that about diversity? What do you mean? Why did you think that diversity would matter? Diversity would matter? Yeah, why did you bring that up? Because it's fucking 2018.

Are you kidding me? Tell us a story. Come on. What do you mean? Oh, like how... What have you heard? Have you heard that diversity matters? I mean, no.

Just fucking open your eyes. Look around. Look at TV. Watch fucking anything. But it's not real. It's forced. Of course. All the diversity happening right now is forced.

That's my... And that's the only problem. I don't fucking... I grew up in New York City. It's forced. Of course. All the diversity happening right now is forced. And that's the only problem. I don't fuck. I grew up in New York City. Nine million people. I'm fucking more Filipino than some Filipino people. I don't care what color you are or race you are. They're all my friends. But it's like if you're going to put somebody on TV specifically because they are something.

Only because. They better be funny. And I think it's fucking actually. I think it's actually disrespectful to certain groups. I agree. To say, oh, we're going to make an effort to put more women. We're going to put more Latinos. Fuck that. Fuck you. They don't need you.

Let me tell you what I think. For a long time, it was my belief, white people never, except for like the KKK or something, we never thought of ourselves as white. That was never a tie that binded us.

Like black people they felt a brotherhood or Italian people whatever. We're just white people. There is a risk now with all this stuff that they're actually going to create a white nationality by constantly referring to everybody

as you're a white male. We have too many white males. You didn't get the gig because by constantly referring to everybody as, you're a white male. We have too many white males. You didn't get the gig because you're white. We need somebody who's not white. So all of a sudden we feel like, oh shit, I guess we are now having an experience. And I know that sounds,

someone will rightfully put their hand in mouth. It's a very less harsh experience. Yeah, yeah. I was about to say, someone will rightfully say, roll their eyes and say. But it's still an experience. But no, but it starts somewhere.

And if you want the country to come together, even to let it start is a very, very bad thing. It's very, very bad when white people are beginning to think of themselves as white people, which I believe they never have before. But I'm telling you, I've seen some things in writing.

If I were to show that to some white people, they'd be like, oh shit, I'm white. I never realized it, writing. If I were to show that to some white people, they'd be like, oh, shit. I'm white. I never realized it, but oh, shit. And to me, honestly, in this country, to me, the only two groups of people that have fucking rights to have gripes, the only two are Native Americans and black people. Native Americans had their fucking land taken from them however many hundred years ago, and black people had their entire idea of family destroyed by slavery. Everybody else,

shut the fuck up. You are a Trump conservative. Everybody else, shut the fuck up. Shut up. With the problem with Apu,

shut the fuck up. You don't have a real problem. No, no, I have sympathy for the Apu thing. You do? I do.

But Indian people, maybe not as much in this country, but it's a similar thing to You do? I do. But Indian people, maybe not as much in this country, but it's a similar thing to Africans, especially in England. But I'm talking about in the United States of America,

black people and Native Americans have rights to be upset. Yes. Because they got their whole lives destroyed. Let me just clarify my position. I believe that anybody

who's treated with bigotry has the right to be upset. What I'm saying is that I think we're making a mistake by encouraging everybody to view their ethnicity and their color as the defining thing. Because if we do encourage the melting pot, assimilation,

I think we have a chance of pulling together as a nation. I don't believe you can have a nation which is 10%, 10 different things, and everybody emphasizes that's the most important thing, and pulled together as one people. I'm afraid of that. I agree with you on that.

The thing I like about race is that it should be treated as flavor or even almost like a hobby. Two people who like golf or like tennis, that's how race is. Nobody should be held down because of it. It's spice. It's a nice way to put it, flavor. It's flavor. Same food group race is. Nobody should be held down because of it. But spice. It's a nice way to put it. Flavor. It's flavor. Same food group though. Same food group. Same food group. It's like the difference between a steak you get at a Japanese restaurant

or an American steakhouse. It's still steak. Absolutely. I agree with that. We're all humans and we should be judged on character and in our business, talent. Sure. But what happens in a situation where you book the best people and it just so happens that all

the best people in your estimation that you booked are white males. That is what it is. But you try telling that and you try telling that, try selling that to somebody who's not a white male and you explain to them rationally well it just so happened that we, it so happened,

as nutty as this is, that we thought all the best people were white males. They'll never accept it. Let me ask, I want to ask Keith Robinson a question. Hold on. Because this is very, I thought exactly about it. Because I was thinking like, I tried to imagine, what if I was a black guy watching all the white males? Now, it's interesting because in comedy, black people have always dominated.

Of course. So it's the one area where they really haven't had that problem. One of the areas, that and the course. So it's the one area where they really haven't had that problem. One of the areas, that and the NBA. So it's one of the areas where they haven't had that problem. But on the other hand, when I was a kid, my black friends would watch The Odd Couple. And it seemed to me we were both watching The Odd Couple. And nobody was kind of thinking about the fact there was two white dudes in the odd couple, where today that would be on, so part of it is just the glasses with which

everybody's taught to view this stuff through now. Go ahead, Keith, what do you want to say? Come on. I just think that... Is there anything to what I'm saying? Yeah, but you didn't address my point. It's who's choosing the white men, it's who's choosing the white males, who's choosing

who gets to be put on TV? Right. If it's all white people choosing, and then it happens to be all white people chosen. Yeah, that's a problem. You're right. That's a problem. But if you just, okay. But the thing is, you're saying we need, Chris initially made the point that it shouldn't be about diversity on television.

Now, what if we... I'm saying it should be about funny. It should be about funny. But what if... What if it just so happens, as I said, that after viewing all the stuff, that there were no women. Forget black people for this.

Say there was no women that made the cut. And you're going to tell me that the women are just going to accept? Well, I guess we just don't measure up. I understand. They're going to cry bloody murder. Of course they will.

And you better put them on that show. I understand that. But to be honest with you, for me, it's always just been blackish. It's a show about all black. It's one of the funniest shows

on television. I never even care. I don't care. I just watch it because it's fucking funny. Like Cosby. And so is Modern Family. And so is the Bill Cosby show. But so is Seinfeld about five white people. It doesn't matter to me. I don't care. I just watch it because it's fucking funny. And so is Modern Family. And so is the Bill Cosby show. But so

is Seinfeld about five white people. It doesn't matter to me. It's just funny. I'm just saying, in today's day and age, you're not being realistic when you say it should just be about who's the funniest. No, no, no. I think you missed the point. Why we got here. It's always how do we get here. We didn't get

here because everything was all fair. Sure. We got here for a certain reason. Yeah. Because all that was on, all you could see is white women, white guys. Black guys are funny too. So let me ask you a question.

Black guys are funny too. Yep. Of course. We know that. Black guys are funny. People choose who they're comfortable with. Let's say I'm dealing with something and I'm told to put somebody on a show

because they're black. And let's say nobody even pretends that they're the funniest. Everybody knows, but we got to have somebody black. Should I tell that person? If I can't just say, listen, Keith, everybody, you know, you didn't have the best set, but we need a black guy. How would you be like, fuck you.

Don't put me on. Like, put me on. It's easy to say that's the way it should be. But if you actually had to deal with that truth, I know you and I know most people. I'd be like, no, I don't. Don't fucking put me on because I'm black. Put me on because I belong there. But a lot of white guys are put on because they're white. No, they're not being put on because they're white.

That's wrong, too. That's wrong. It's all wrong. It's because they're white. Trust me. So this is what it comes down to. You're right, and I understand why you want these safeguards. As a guy who's making decisions, who knows that I'm just going to choose the funniest guy,

I fucking resent it because I feel like I got to put my name on something that I know is not as good as it can be because somebody might call me a racist, but I'm not a fucking racist and I don't like it. Yeah, but the world we live in, we just all have to deal with that. I think the biggest, for me, the biggest issue is not these executives, whatever, yes, white, black, whatever. Most of the people making decisions are not funny themselves. So they don't even know who's funny.

Well, they don't need to be funny to know who's funny. Yes, you do. You don't need to be a musical genius to know the Beatles are good. I don't believe that. Yeah, but you need to have – Or Marvin Gaye, sorry. Yeah, okay, but some places that I worked, there were people making decisions on my material or something I wrote that were in the accounting department four years ago and just moved up because that's the way it works at some of these networks. So you're going to tell me that that person knows anything about anything?

I'm telling you that they might. I'm telling you that somebody can have good judgment without – I believe that. I believe that. Let me – Go ahead. One more thing. Enter the microphone if you please. Shut up.

So the whole thing, like with your sitcom, right? Right. If you have a bunch of nerds looking into your sitcom who knows nothing about life, nothing about your life, nothing about the life that was lived in that neighborhood, it's going to be chances are they're not going to even understand half of it and go because they don't understand it, they're not going to even understand half of it and go, because they don't understand it, they're not going to pick that show up. They're only looking for things that they may or may not understand.

Right. So they might not even understand the lingo. Well, we don't get that. Right. Why do you do that? So that hurts, too. That strikes to a lot of people who don't know. Sure.

I'll look at your life and laugh my ass off. Right. Because I've seen it. And I would definitely like, yo, we got to pick this show up. Because it gets to everything that I know. Do you relate to it? Yeah. There is something that changed. When we were kids, we would watch

the old Bill Cosby show with Mr. Kincaid and Fat Albert and whatever black things were on or whatever. And we didn't, as it sounds corny, we didn't process it racially. You didn't. No, no. I'm saying, but now. Kids don't.

Kids do. But you think about. Go ahead. Think about how the execs process it. I know. A bunch of corny dudes. Corny, by the way, is a dog whistle for white motherfucker. No, no, not white.

It's corny everybody. Most of them are white, but. Who don't know, haven't lived enough life to know what that's about. That's why the internet is such a useful, crazy tool for us right now. Because now it's like I could just. It's a meritocracy. I have a web series right now that I put out that me and my friend Giannis Papas put out that it would never be on network. It couldn't be because we're just saying the truth.

We're not being racist. We're not being misogynistic. We're just being funny first. And in the lines of what today is funny because we are stepping outside of some social norms and pushing some buttons, they're like, ooh, that's a – I can't talk. You can't do that. Remember all in the family. I think that a lot of the web shows are clearly better than a lot of the TV shows.

Sure, because we're in control. The proof is that if you put, I don't know, I don't want to say a show out loud, but if you put some show on the web, a lot of these shows, nobody would ever watch it. Of course. You don't have a bunch of censors giving you notes.

No, you leave that out, put that in. It's just you going with your instinct. Yeah, and they know. The executives at some of these, they know. They know that eventually once Facebook, or they already are, start paying big money for content, which they already are, and there's not too many cooks in the kitchen, and we can control what we do, and they just sell ads on it,

and if it gets views, it's good. They know that slowly, and that's how you take the power back from these fucking cucks is because real because real talent and being funny first is always going to win this thing will go up and down and the diversity train will be today and then tomorrow it'll be something else but if you just keep being funny then you're good that's why i don't lose sleep over it i'm like okay maybe it's not my time right now whatever that. That's why you're looking for God. Yeah. I'm trying to find God. That's why I fucking want to blow my head off in the fucking parking lot.

No. But you had a terrific CBS pilot. You went as far as you can without getting picked up. That's what I'm saying. And for me, I look in the mirror. I'm like, oh, I had a pretty good 2017 despite the fact that they weren't looking for me. But I fucking kept being funny. I was like, well, here, fucking eat it. And then they didn't pick it up.

But I'm still made enough to support my family. Now, this year, who knows? I may be living out of the back of my Corolla, but that just is what it is. A lot of people get mad about it. They take to the internet, Facebook. Oh, fuck that, blah, blah, blah. No, no, no, no. Just keep going being funny.

Just because the people laugh. Once you get a fan base as a comedian, who cares if you're different? Louis or whomever, anybody is going to come back because of their fans. And the executives can't stop that. The networks can't stop that. Well, that's the thing I find amazing, though,

is that I see some comics go on stage who kill night after night after night. They're so good, and yet their networks don't want to deal with those people. Maybe they don't like them

on a personal level. But I'm like, just look at what the audience is loving. Can I say, I told you this one time, the networks are really not the ones to blame. Sure. Because networks are businessmen, and they're dealing with the world as it is, where people

expect. Sure. Sure. X, Y, and Z. Right. So, and if they were to put on a show which was all white, whatever, they would get a lot of fucking flack for it. Absolutely. Can't do it. put on a show which was all white, they would get a lot of flabbergasted.

It's more the mentality that seeped into the public, which I think is driving it. And I reject that mentality. In a comedy club you have some amount of that. But all that is okay because I do agree with Keith. There was a time where it was just whites and just blacks. And it's good. This is all positive. But Chris, that wasn't because they said

you can't, Indian comedians and Chinese people are not allowed to be comics. They just make up a smaller percentage of the population. Yeah, and maybe they didn't give a shit. They're busy actually going to medical school instead of doing stand-up. You always say that, Dan, how you see fewer Asian people clamoring, we need to be on TV because they're busy. They're less TV-oriented people from my observation. I got to run.

Actually, we're way over time. Yeah. Thanks for giving me $125. Yes. Watch the Bay Ridge Boys. It's my web series where we fucking talk about all this shit. Funny first. No cucks. If you like just to be funny first, then watch the Bay Ridge Boys. And if you're going to be in Aruba,

which you won't be now, I won't be now. Visit ArubaComedy.com and come to a show in February or March. Chris DiStefano won't be now. I won't be now. Visit arubacomedy.com and come to a show in February or March. Chris DiStefano won't be there. Thank you for having me, though. Dan Adam and Will. I will be there as of now unless I also get a huge, huge, huge other gig. You had a part in my sitcom if it would have went, damn it.

Oh, I did? Yeah, you did. Those motherfuckers at CBS. You told me it was my part. No, it was Danny Boyd's. He lies like a rug. Thanks for having me, though. I appreciate it.

Thank you, Chris. Please go to our website and write us a comment about the show, ComedyCenter.com website. Thank you, Chris Stefano, Ray, Ellen. I don't think you're a cuck. I don't care what anybody says. I don't even know what you mean. I've heard it a thousand times.

Is a cuck a guy who wants to watch his wife have sex with another man? That's according to Chris. I'm not even married. I'm not even married. A guy who wouldn't even stand up for himself. But nowadays it's used in the context of cuckservatives. These are conservatives that have liberal, that don't stand up to liberals.

That's how I've seen it used more recently. How's the seller of Vegas coming along? They call it a cuckservative. Seller of Vegas? Vegas is a long hard slog. I'm sorry that I ever got involved in it. Seriously regret it.

Come on. Really? Because financially or just time wise? Because it's just not worth the time away from my kids. Do you need to be away from your kids? The whole point. No I'm saying you have to be there. Don't you have other partners who are, I mean, no, I'm saying you have to be there. Don't you have other partners who are going to be running? You've got other people that could be on the scene.

If worse comes to worse, you put Ray Allen on the scene, and he'll handle things. Don't you worry about it. You know what Esty will do if I put Ray Allen? I don't know why. It's funny. You think, I don't even care. It's funny, Norm. As excited as I was to, and I went to you, and I said, I'd love to be a part of this

thing in Vegas. But after, like, all that drama with her, it's like, I don't get it. She should be thrilled. Oh, wow, this guy opened his own club in another country and it was successful. But the truth is, Ray does have, he's the Liam Neeson of off-site comedy clubs. He does have a certain skill set. Thank you very much. And I will not lie and say that I haven't thought that maybe, if I can't figure this out, maybe Ray Allen could figure this out for me.

Because getting these people to come out there requires a certain kind of cuckness. You mean getting comedians to come out there? Yeah, yeah. Well, every comedian I've talked to, or most comedians I've talked to, are excited to go out there. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know. I don't, you know what? Now, if you can fill the room, it'll make money. I told you, I'm having psychological problems. I'm having, like, imposter know. I don't, you know what? Now, if you can fill the room, it'll make money. I told you, I'm having psychological problems.

I'm having, like, imposter syndrome. I don't, nothing motivates me. What's imposter syndrome mean? He thinks he's an imposter. Yeah, like, I don't, like, I'm opening a club in a casino in Vegas, and honestly, I don't know why. I don't know what pleasure I'm going to get from it. Hopefully, it'll make money.

You told me when you started this endeavor that you just wanted a reason to go out to Vegas. Yeah. Of course, now you're saying the exact opposite, that you don't want to be away from your family. That was just a joke. So you weren't driven by money. You know what? I can tell you.

I was in Vegas one time, and I drove by Caesar's Palace, and I saw Robert Kelly's fucking big mug on that four-story billboard. You know, a Digital sign billboard. And it had the name of some comedy club. I was like, fuck this shit. That should be the comedy seller up there. So I called up somebody. And it went on for years. And then finally I had this meeting

and they made this deal. And I'm like, no. I said, I wouldn't do that unless you lower it by a third. And I walked away from the table. And then they came back to me and said, okay, it by a third. I walked away from the table. Then they came back to me and said, okay, you got a deal. I was like, oh, fuck. They called my bluff.

The truth is, it's a great deal. It should be great for me and for the casino. Now you got to do the work. Now you got to open a club. A lot of work. George is excited about it. George is excited about it. Everybody's excited about it. I should be excited about it.

The truth is, I would got it. Liz's got it. I mean, I've partnered, and everybody's excited about it, and I should be excited about it. But the truth is, I would sell it. I would just sell it. I would just franchise it out. Who's going to manage it day to day out there? Who's going to be the person? The casino manages it. It's easy. Well, but then what do you do? You have to train them.

Okay, so then what? Like you're talking about you have to be away from your family. Do you need to be there? If the casino is managing it, SD is booking it. Listen, it's another thing I'm going to have to keep tabs on every day. And keeping tabs on something, every moment keeping tabs on something is a moment that you can't do something else. And I'm like, at this point in my life, I kind of like just being able to get up,

have breakfast with the kids, hang out, check on a place, go home. I then do it. I can have a radio show. I can do it, and I don't need it. I then do it. I can have a radio show. I don't need it. Then do it and hire somebody to do whatever you would otherwise be doing. Well, but at the end of the day, though, because it's his club, he's going to give a shit how things are going on. He's still going to have plenty of family time, I believe, and maybe even more so because

you'll have another source of revenue, and money equals freedom. I think he's free enough. Yeah, I'm free enough. I don't mean to say that. I don't mean that smugly. Like, I don't have fuck you money. I need my stream of income. You'll eat my shorts money.

But the stream of income that I have is sufficient for me to live. I don't need to fly first class. I don't need a big fucking fancy car. I have a nice car. I don't need anything. I don't need to fly first class. I don't need a big fucking fancy car. I have a nice car. I don't need anything. I don't covet all that stuff. I like my lifestyle, home with my kids,

and my family. I think you can keep that lifestyle and the Vegas route. But you're probably thinking more, you're going to be expending more mental energy. Yeah, and then it could bomb. And if I bomb... Well, you don't want to bomb.

I understand that. But it could also be exciting. A new chapter in life. You know, not just sit at home. I mean, it's another challenge, another mountain to climb. And, of course, all of it brings into mind the meaningless of life. Well, that I can't help you with. And then we all die.

Yes, well, that I can't help you with. We are a speck on a speck on a speck. We are nothing. And then we all fucking die. Who gives a shit if you had a club in Vegas or not? That is true, and that I can't help you with. Who cares if you won an Oscar? It means nothing.

That's where maybe drugs come in. You know what your life sustaining is, is that your kids remember you. That's what it is. Well. It's like the devotion that you give to your kids, and then you live on at least a little bit longer, and that's it.

Until they die. Okay. Until they die. Well, then you have your grandkids, I guess. But that I thought was a pretty good show. Yes. It sounded good to me. We'll cut out the first part.

I'm kidding. Well. I bet I haven't felt the first part was boring. Good night, everybody. Good night. Good night. Good night.