The Comedy Cellar: Live from the Table - Danny Cohen and Dr. Maurice Shaw

Episode Date: October 16, 2020

Cellar regular Danny Cohen and Dr. Maurice Shaw, the pharmacist and a stand up comedian who went viral after he lost his job at Walmart. 

You're listening to The Comedy Cellar, Live from the Table, the official podcast of New York's world-famous comedy cellar coming at you on Sirius XM 99, Raw Dog. And on the Riotcast Podcast Network, this is Dan Aderman, co-host of Live from the Table, along with Noam Dwarman, the owner, the proprietor of the world-famous Comedy Cellar. We have with us, as usual, Perrielle Ashenbrand.

She is the producer of the show. She has become, slowly but surely, an on-air personality, and it's really, there's nothing we can do about it now. We also have with us Danny Cohen, Comedy Cellar regular, or at least he was a comedy seller regular when the comedy seller was in existence. I guess it's still in existence, but it's not open. Danny is a gay American and proud to be so.

Jewish American. What comes first, Jewish or gay? Jewish, of course. And he's also- Gay is something you can change. He also makes ties. And we may or may not get into that. Welcome, one and all.

Gay is a choice. Jewish, you're born with, Daniel. Don't you know that? I guess, you know, you're going to have your bris first, right? Before you pronounce that you're gay. Bris, that makes you a Jew. You're Jewish first. So, just off the top, this is the end of an

era in the world of New York City comedy. Dangerfield's Comedy Club, 50 years in business, is closing its doors at 1118 First Avenue here in Manhattan. The owner says they will reopen at another location, but of course that remains to be seen.

And color me skeptical, but I think this might be the last we've seen of Dangerfield. Thoughts, know them. A fellow, another comedy club closing down. Is there any joy as a competitor in your heart no no not at all i'm i'm i find it very very very very sad um i thought danger fields was a was i know it wasn't doing well at the end and i know that the best comics weren't necessarily playing there anymore but it was it was a room a room that had a character and a feel to it that I really enjoyed.

I thought that in a different... I don't know. I felt like I would like to have a room that looked just like Dangerfield. I think there was something... Dangerfield. I think there was something really classically showbiz. Just for those who've never been there, Dangerfield was sort of a dark room. It had a picture. It looked like, I don't know, like a 60s nightclub or something. Is that it? It had like the candles, lamps at each table. Looked almost like a rat-packed Vegas lounge

type of thing. Yes, yes. Very romantic feel to it. Yeah. And then that's number one. Number two, you know, it's a, it's a part of New York. Number three,

it's, it's really a discredit to our leaders because we all know that they're going to come down with some big new aid package to help businesses and to help people. I mean, you know, and they're playing games with it. You could have seen Pelosi on at this interview that's kind of going viral today with Wolf Blitzer, where she's, you know, obfuscating about it, whatever it is. So the money, they'll finally release the money when they feel that it's politically advantageous for them to do so. And

the fire department will arrive too late. And these businesses that are going belly up now, it's disgusting because they don't have to. They don't have to. It's just Washington playing games and they don't really

give a shit, do they? I mean, they really don't really give a shit, do they? I mean, they really don't really give a shit. These fucking hacks in Washington when they finally have enough, they pass so much fucking laws. I'm really upset about this. All their, all their careers, bullshit laws, money for this, money for that, a building who the fuck cares what they do. Nobody doesn't affect us at all.

And the one time we really need them to step up when they've shut down all our fucking lives. And listen, we need some money to hold us over. Can you just get us the money to hold us over? You finally have a chance to actually do something with your fucking position, you fucking hats. Nothing, nothing. And these people, their whole lives are lost and it could be me you know it their whole fucking lives are lost while these people trying to position for advantage in the upcoming election it's just fucking disgusting it really it really upsets me so that's how i feel about it yeah well uh passionate uh am i wrong i mean who what would what fucking nancy pelosi say if she was on this podcast?

Would she tell me I was wrong? I don't understand. No, you don't understand. We had to do this because, you know, Trump wanted this and we want that. And so we're just going to have to just wait the whole. It's all bullshit. This is your chance. Give the people the money.

Save the businesses. Save people. People can't pay their rent. Not just businesses, by the way. Every business has employees. They have families. What a mess of a situation. Of course, we don't know.

I mean, I suppose in the abstract, you're correct. Although in the specific case of Dangerfields, we don't truly know what is going on and why they're closing. And maybe they were going to close anyway. And it seemed like, you know. They're dropping like flies all over. It's been, the PPP money is gone.

And we, I mean, I mean, it's just ridiculous. What are they doing? They both, it's not as if, it would be different if one side says, no, we really don't believe there should be any more money than goes out. That goes out.

Say, all right, well, you know, I mean, I might disagree with that position, but they're arguing about a disagreement that's that's the system but both sides are saying yes we do we want to give two billion they want to give three billion so we so that's it so there'll be nothing until until we can agree on you know it's a trillion i'm sorry um it's just reprehensible this is why i don't want to vote. Fuck these politicians. I mean, really, fuck them. They really are disgusting.

Cuomo now touting a book after he threw... I mean, just left and right. Who can say anything good about anybody, any of our leaders? Is there one? Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump, Andrew Cuomo. Who's a good one? Tell me a good one.

Well, I know King Solomon was a good leader, but that's going back some years. I know Perrielle wanted to bring Danny on specifically because apparently he had a Dangerfield story. I have a horrible Dangerfield. Did he have it on stage or in the bathroom? It wouldn't be so bad if it took place in the bathroom. That would have been a great story.

And this isn't even a bad story about danger fields. It's a bad story about Danny Cummings, the comic. I'm just going to shoot myself in the face right now, but I'll tell the story because that's the kind of person I am. It's fine. Well, here's the thing. The thing is, is that Danny is always so good natured and so sweet. And apparently I have from time to time, I guess I'm a racist.

I guess. I guess it's normal. I guess it's normal. I guess it's normal human behavior. I don't know. But it was one of the last times that I saw you at the cellar because I saw you afterwards.

We were hanging out in the olive tree, right? Yeah. And it happened like in March. It happened right there. And I think that was probably where we both got COVID. For each other. Without further preface, can we hear the story? It was March. It was happening right there. And I think that was probably where we both got COVID. I was, yeah. From each other. Without further preface, can we hear the story? So I was there, I was doing a produced show for years.

Who's the owner, Tony? Tony Bavacquia. Tony was supposed to watch me for the past 14 years. I swear to God, for 14 years, he's supposed to watch me. To watch you, to potentially use you at the club more. Yes, to potentially, so I can work there on Friday nights and Saturday nights in the mix of other clubs that I'm performing. If I'm in the city, sure.

So for years and years, he's supposed to watch me, never watch me. And then I let it go. Like, I let it go many years ago. And then so I show up because I'm doing a produced show. Cause I would perform there once in a while, produced shows, you know, my friends would produce shows. So they would put me on, they would do some newer comics and then they would throw in, they would trickle in.

So they'd sprinkle in some pros. So I would go up and then I'm, I'm about to go up on stage and one of the producers comes up to me and says, hey, listen, Tony's going to watch you tonight. I'm like, I don't know. I don't really care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't want to know. I don't don't tell me about Tony. You're ruining my mood now. So this is me. I don't know. I was just in a really bad place. And I didn't want to hear, you know, for the 200th time that Tony was going to watch me. So I was like, no problem.

Yeah, whatever you want. Okay, go in, you're on deck. I go, I'm on stage. I start talking, I'm doing my thing. And there's a group to my left. They were like 23, 20, I guess they were kids, you know. And, you know, the room was never policed, you know. It's never, they don't care about any,

you can heckle, you can shoot the comic in the head. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what goes on. And those rooms are very important for comics because it builds a different muscle. You have the better rooms that, you know, and then you have a room like this that will put you in your place.

And this is the kind of room that you die in unless you're like, you have to fight for your life in that room. It's a bridge and tunnel crowd. Everyone's screaming. You have to scream over other people. It's nuts. So I go there and these people are talking

and I'm sort of having a great time with the other part. I'm ignoring them, not addressing them. And I'm talking to the other part and I'm having a good time and that's working. Then I suddenly turn, not addressing them. And I'm talking to the other part of them. I'm having a good time and that's working. Then I suddenly turn, I'm like, what's going on with you guys? What's happening? And they like ignore me.

And they like, they're texting, they're talking, they're switching seats. They're looking at each other's phone. They're completely, as if there's no show, as if nothing's going, they're completely in their own world. All right. In hindsight, I'm like, all right, they're a bunch of kids i should just ignore them but i i told them i said you know

the way you're carrying on you know you're you're very uncultured and they went oh and then someone in the back of the room said that's racist i said why is it racist why is it and i started screaming at everyone i'm like that's not a critical detail that this group was a group yeah who he think it'd be eskimos they could be anybody i don't we don't say eskimos anymore yeah what you throwing around the word racist and they were like get off get off stage, get off stage, boo! And they all started chanting, get off stage, get off stage. And then they, the whole audience,

and like in a matter of a minute, they booed me off stage. I said, okay, I got off stage. And then I got off stage. And then the MC is like, sort of like freaking out. He comes back, he's like, Tony's watching the back. I'm like, I'm like, oh really? Wow. So I get off.

So I see Tony is coming towards me. I'm like, well, that wasn't so great. So many years later out of all the shows and I've never had a show like that. I think in my life, I've never been booed off stage in my life. And that's when Tony was watching and he wouldn't pay me. I'm think, in my life. I've never been booed offstage in my life. And that's when Tony was watching, and he wouldn't

pay me. I'm like, it's okay. I don't even want the money. I just want to get out of here. I want to get out of here. I think he should have paid you, number one. Thank you. But that aside, you're not a racist, obviously. Why obviously?

Well, I know Danny for many, many years, and I know he's not a racist. however why obviously yeah well i know annie for many many years and i know we've got a race i appreciate that um but but uh but i would not have used the word uncultured with an african-american group i would just say that i think you made a tactical error not not a more not a moral error but a tactical error interesting let's talk about that. Yes, it was definitely, you know what? Yes, I shouldn't have said the word uncultured. But you know what?

They're uncultured, that group was uncultured. Like my cousin brought potato chips when we went to see Wicked. And we were sitting third row in a Broadway musical. He starts eating potato chips while they're performing. I wanted to punch him in the face. I turned to him like, can you stop eating your potato chips? Did you call him the N-word?

No. He's like, I can do whatever I want. I just paid $150 for a ticket. He's like a typical New York Jew. I'm like, listen, put your potato chips away. There's a live performance, and you're crunching in the third row. I'm whispering to him, put your potato chips away. There's a live performance and you're crunching in the third row. I'm like whispering to him and I'm like, and then people are turning around and I just let it go.

And I'm like, after he ate a couple of more bites and then he put it away. But that's uncultured. Why is uncultured racist as opposed to you guys being assholes? Like why particular, what's wrong with uncultured yeah dan answer there's nothing necessarily wrong with it but you have to understand how things might be interpreted and things might be anything that can be interpreted as this is a a a corollary to murphy's law that anything that can go wrong will go wrong as a corollary i would say that anything that can be interpreted as racist

will be interpreted as racist. And therefore, I would have let the group continue to talk. And if they wanted to get up on stage and beat me, I would have taken it and... In hindsight... And said, thank you, may I have another. It was the only thing I thought of. It was like, I just, I was talking from my heart. From my thought of it was like i just i was talking from

my heart from my heart i was like you're being uncultured now you're in a live performance first of all you're looking at this all wrong uncultured is a word that white people you it's it sounds snooty listen it sounds snobby and anything that sounds snobby can be interpreted as racist let me tell you what you guys are all wrong if you had said uneducated it would have had the same result dan dan is positive that you shouldn't have used the word uncultured let me give you it let me give you a a contrarian view of this uh thing if you would not said uncultured you still would have bombed you still wouldn't have gotten paid by saying uncultured you got put off the stage and you've got this great story that you can tell again and again and again that actually makes you marketable there's the best thing you ever did was

use the word uncultured if you if you had said no you you fellows are not very polite that's it you'd have actually zero at least you got a great story on Well, the seller is saying that I'm, thank you. I guess you could, I guess you could put it, I guess you could view it that way, but no, do you agree that the word uncultured should have been,

um, he should have known it was going to provoke a response of that nature. It certainly, there was, he should have, you might've calculated that there was a possibility that that would, I mean, it wasn't a sure thing they might've, you know, but yeah.

There wasn't even a connection to be honest with you. There wasn't even a connection between their skin color. Of course not. If it was anybody else, I would have said, what's going on? What this is not, it's you're uncultured. And it was just, I was being honest and, and it was horrible and that was the end of that. And you're right. I shouldn't have said that. It's definitely a word I shouldn't have used.

But is it the worst words? I mean, yeah. I mean, it wouldn't have helped me. I don't think it was a moral error. I think it was a strategic. Strategically, it did not help me. Right. I think you have to, you know, I think.

I have a lot to learn. I was performing at an all black college years ago. A show, it wasn't pure standup. It was a make me laugh-black college years ago, a show. It wasn't pure stand-up. It was Make Me Laugh. Remember Make Me Laugh, the game show you try to make people laugh? If they don't laugh, they get money. So we were doing that show at a historically black college, Bowie State in Maryland, as a matter of costumes to use as you know as in in in trying to make people laugh we could use some cost we could do our stand-up we could use costumes we could use probably do whatever we

wanted so I put on an old man an old man wig and like an old man jacket and I said and I and I walked in I said yeah kids get off my my property. I just meant it as an old man. I just meant it as an old man that was cranky. In fact, the title of my album is Get Off My Property because I just think it's a funny notion of an old guy yelling at kids to get off their property. It was interpreted in a racial way. I'm not, I'm sorry.

I mean, yeah, I mean, that's ridiculous. So let's bring it to the news. Listen, I'm tired of talking about race, but there's a thing in the news now, you know, the guy who, the guy that, one of the heads of, I think it's PBS or WNET in New York, I think it's PBS,

is being, there's a big petition they're trying to get him fired for among other things, in a letter he wrote, he described racism as a cancer and apparently that was racist because yeah the argument is that um racism is a part of us it is not it is not other than us which is what cancer cancer... I mean, it makes no sense at all. But of course, I did some Googling today. Ta-Nehisi Coates is called racism

and cancer. Cory Booker is called racism and cancer. We all have cancer in us. But at least he didn't call it uncultured. But listen, this is the time we're living in. And unfortunately,

and it's really, and unfortunately, and it's really quite unfortunate. If you don't want to appease, you know, the ridiculousness of what we all see going on around us, people will then interpret you as being less offended by racism, which is just not the case, right? Among any of us who roll our eyes at this kind of thing. It's like, no, it's, it's, it's one has nothing to do with the other, you know, it's just, you can't, we just, I'm just not, we just don't buy into what's obviously just, I think intimidation.

I mean, it's like nobody, like Latinx, is it Latinx? Okay. There's an article today in the New Yorker. The headline is something like, why the politicians are still ignoring the Latinx community. Why the politicians are still ignoring the Latinx community. And I said, my God, this is hilarious because the polls show that 97% of Hispanics, Latinos, 97% of Latinos don't use the term Latinx. They don't like that

term Latinx. So the New Yorker writes an article saying why the Latinx population is being ignored. These fucking elite white people are actually ignoring the latinx population by calling them latinx as you know like it's as if the as if the goyim as if the non-jewish world bequeathed a new word for jews they didn't consult us and they told us that this is the word that we're going to use for Jews now. Or if we impose a new word on black people that 97% of black people didn't want white people that we're going to, no, no, we're going to call you. We don't, we think the term black people is no good. So from now on it's black X. Speaking of terms, I'd be remiss if we didn't take advantage of having

Danny with us to talk about the, uh, and Coney Barrett hearings when she referred to... Amy Coney Barrett. Amy, did I say Ann? I think so. Okay. Amy Coney Barrett when she referred, when she was asked about discrimination against LGBTQ and she said that she does not discriminate against people on the basis of sexual preference and she took a lot of heat because apparently sexual preference, I didn't realize this. It's not a term I use,

but I didn't realize that it was a, it was a term that not only is outdated, but offensive. I don't find it offensive and I don't think it's outdated. And I think, I think, I think it's a beautiful thing to say. I think it's a very,

a very sweet way of, of allowing people to be clear about their preference in lifestyle choices. You know, there are bisexuals and they go back and forth. It's what's your preference? It's gay. You know, preference is a very nice word. It's not a bad, it's not a derogatory, it's not a bad word. The issue is, Danny, is that people say, but that implies that it's a choice. And who are these people? Like five people? Like who?

I want parades of people in the street picketing about that word. I don't want four people. Where do they get these... Who are these people? Who? Well, I don't know. These are people that... Exactly. They have five people.

They put them in a room. The five of the most left, left nutcase people that you'll ever meet in your life. And they asked those five people, and they were screaming in the room. And then they wrote a report based on those five people. That's how they do it. It's all sensationalism.

How long has sexual preference been verboten? Can I still say verboten verboten i don't yeah i don't know uh no i'm i i didn't know that i didn't know that it was verboten until this whole thing erupted i mean i i generally i'm an old- gay. I'm also not, I don't agree with the whole pronoun. He, the, they, they. Well, that's because you're a gay and not a trans. Yeah, but you're not allowed to do any of that anyway. I'm like, I'm like, you know, don't tell me what to do.

I'm going to call you what I see. If I see a bird and it's a bird, I'm going to say that's a bird. And relax if it's not a bird. If it's like a peak, if it's like a squirrel and I thought it was a bird i'm gonna say that's a bird and and relax if it's not a bird if it's if it's like a peak if it's like a squirrel and i thought it was a bird then just tell me no that's not a bird that's a squirrel be like oh okay i thought it was a bird well i think the point is is that if they say this is a squirrel and then you keep saying no you're a bird and they're like people right exactly that's what i'm saying though you're not going to keep move on exactly then you're that's fine can i ask wait wait can i say something because this has really got to stop so i'm looking i'm looking in the new york times new york times from 2002

like i mean i just first they came up all right it's 2002 but doesn't doesn't really feel like like like it was the 1700s. New York gay rights bill passes would protect people from abuse based on employment, housing, and living based on their sexual preference. So, like, you know, it goes from the term that the most far-reaching people use to all of a sudden now if you use it, you're some sort of gay hater. And, you know, people on the left or people, most on the left, but don't understand is that the average Joe has better fucking things to do with his life. The average Joe is not keeping on top of every last terminology as it changes the moving target and updating, you know, their Rolodex. It's crazy.

And what about you're infringing on those people's rights? Don't infringe on my rights to make you, why do I have to call you something that I don't understand? Like if you're, if you're going to tell me you're a man, that now is a woman and now, but, and, and, and if you're going to tell me you're a man and now you're a woman, why do I have to call you a woman? I want to just, like, why do I have to call a transgender?

Why do I have to call a transgender? Hold on, Danny. Aren't you a member of this community? What are you talking like that for? I'm going to ask you. I don't think, like, if I say no, sorry you were born a man, I get the whole thing that you don't feel like a man. No, I don't agree with you at all.

I don't know. Well, you don't have to. Can I answer? Well. Why do I have to agree with that? Let me ask a question. You were born with a penis. Okay.

Science says you're a man. Now you're a woman. You're not a woman because you don't have a uterus and you can't do a lot of things. That's not what a woman is. Oh, so tell me what a woman is. I mean, tell me what a woman is. You're, you're, you're gender, there's biology and then there's gender. And the fact that we've decided that that's binary is something that's made

up. We didn't, hold on. That's why I wanted to answer first. Cause I knew she was going to take us into, into foreign, into Saturn. So listen, Perry, hold on Perry L. into Saturn. But listen, hold on, Perrielle. Danny, the reason is, and I don't know if you're just being provocative or to what extent you actually, you know, actually live that. The reason is because it's cruel and uncultured, if you forgive the term.

Not to. But because people who are transgender have been dealt a shitty enough hand you know figured to a difficult enough hand in life that they that they have to face every day and why would anybody except out of heartlessness not want to call them uh whatever makes them feel uh good about themselves you know you don't have to it. Nobody can force you if you don't believe it. It's the other side of calling people, you know, haters or abusers. It's the other side.

So I'm just saying, if you're going to go as far as to call people haters and abusers and whatever, racist or whatever it is, because they don't understand what you are. So you have to also allow them. You can't take those rights away from them either. They don't know. I happen to be cultured. I happen to, I happen to be cultured. I know about these things. I couldn't do it, but someone from long Island. So you weren't, so you weren't just being provocative, you know? Yeah.

I mean, yeah. And you certainly wouldn't say such a thing To a black transsexual woman on the street, would you? I would not, not me But I don't understand the left I hate, I just The far left and the far right Drive me bananas

They drive me up the wall Now, Periel is saying something which We can circle back to what i'm saying dr shaw has arrived oh i just like just okay he can go let's just say that periel is saying something that i i that i think um is is pure opinion no and she and she presents it as fact which is the opinion being that that we've chosen binary and that actually even that when somebody means woman, they mean to say what you feel like in your head

rather than, I think what most people mean by woman, like when you have a baby, you have a boy or a girl. At that point, you can't possibly be describing their psychology. So obviously, when we first start using the term boy and girl,

we don't mean what she claims we mean. And then at some point, as they get older, Perry also magically transforms. Oh, you never meant the thing you meant when you said it's a boy. You meant what goes on behind the eyes and the brain. That's just, I think you have a tough point. I think that's a very difficult case to prove. Words are man-made items,

and their meaning depends on how they are used. The meaning of the word man and the meaning of the word woman, which are words that were made up by human beings, depend on how they are used. And how they are used differs many people use them in the biological sense some people more and more people are using them the way periel is describing thank you dan it is not right or wrong uh one way or the other because right now we're sort of in a transition zone where the words men and what it used to be clear what a man was

and what a woman was was based on biology Now that's becoming less clear. Words, the meaning of words evolve. Trans men are men and trans women are women. According to how that, according to how those words are used by some portion of the population. Right. But you don't have a right to declare. Then why do we call them trans? Well's obvious isn't it no they're just women right not allowed anymore okay are we this guy's waiting i'm asking you what like like what what why i mean we could what would perfectly make sense is you have man trans man woman trans woman because i i get that but if you say trans women are women, then why are we still talking about trans women? Because they're different.

I mean, that argument I don't necessarily agree with because why would we say a black woman? Black women are women, but we have different types of women. So it's okay to have different types of women. Okay, maybe you're right. Go ahead. Gender, I just want to say this. Can I say this? Gender identity is different than biological sex

okay that's what i'm trying nobody questions anybody's gender identity danny's not questioning anybody's gender identity i think i think a lot of people i think we are a very fat, privileged, spoiled country, and people have lost their minds. They're looking for any little word to hang on to for power so they can feel like they're special. You're fat and you're American. That's all, and you're spoiled. We are waiting for a takeover. If another country decided to come at us with war,

we would all be dead in 12 minutes. We cannot fight for our lives. I mean, maybe I'm living in a bubble. I'm in New York. Maybe down south, they're all in the army. They're all fighting for our country. So it's a whole different ballgame. Can I just add?

My group of people. I have to let him in. I'm letting him in. Just let him wait for a minute. I want to add just for the haters out there, and I could actually let him in. I'm letting him in. Just let him wait for a minute. I want to add, just for the haters out there, and I could actually back this up. In my years dealing with people who were trans, before anybody was doing such a thing,

or before there was any pressure to do such a thing, I always referred to them, it was trans women I was dealing with, I always referred to them as women, even behind their backs. Even when I was speaking to them behind their backs, out of respect, I always said she, and I would have people around me who would say this. I think, I mean, I'll pat myself on the back. I think I've always been pretty far ahead of my peers when it came to

an attitude about trans stuff. But, again, that doesn't mean I have to swallow each and every single new PC concept

that comes down the pike, even if I, to the point where it's leaving planet Earth. I mean, it's just, you know, it's just not the case that when somebody describes somebody as male or female

or a woman or a man, that they mean gender identity. You can mean gender identity. You need a new term for gender identity. Okay. Hold on. Sorry. And we have with us connecting to the doctor has arrived maurice shaw hello dr shaw hello hey nice to meet you let me give an appropriate introduction we're big on intros

on this show dr maurice shaw is a pharmacist and a stand-up. There's a combination. Well, we've seen lawyer stand-ups aplenty, but pharmacist stand-ups are a rare breed. His YouTube channel, RxComedy, has 1.4 million views, and he performs mainly, according to this, in the Midwest. Welcome, Dr. Shaw. Thanks for having me. How are you guys? We are fine. Some of us are wondering when pharmacists became doctors. Several years ago, they switched it to a four-year instead of a two-year. So pharmacy school is four years now, so now you have a doctorate. It's a doctorate of pharmacology, right? Yes, ma'am.

Are you allowed to fill your own prescriptions? Um, no, but I have. Wow. All right. So, so what are we talking about here? The thing with, uh, what do we call you, Dr. Sean Maurice? You can call me Dr. Sean Maurice. Most of my customers, they forget my name and just call me Marcus.

So whatever you want. Some people call me Maurice. We just finished up a discussion about calling people what they wish to be called in the context of transgender so this is uh this is uh we do we do believe in calling people what they prefer to be called on this show okay well you can call me dr shaw it is dr shaw was fired from walgreens for doing stand-up comedy at least according according to, that can't be right, is that correct? Yeah, I was let go for the comedy. It was a legal matter that we both decided to resolve

and that issue is now in the past, so I can't really talk about that issue anymore, but both parties just resolved our issues. Okay. That's a dud. Well, that was going to be the basis of our conversation. We better switch. Think fast, Natterman. Well, let's talk about COVID.

Yes. So are you still a practicing pharmacist? Yes, I was working at CVS, but I just, I put in my two weeks notice because it's too crazy, too hectic, too understaffed, too many crazy Karens. Well, I cannot hear. Whoa, whoa. He said Karens.

That's not nice. Go ahead, Dan. I cannot hear the word CVS without thinking fuck CVS because that's a joke. I'm not going to do his joke, but John Laster has a joke about fuck CVS. And that's all I'll say because I don't want to do his joke without authorization. But I don't know if you're familiar with John Laster. Yeah, I'm familiar with him. Not with that particular joke.

But yes, CVS is a terrible place to work. I don't know anything about CVS is a terrible place to work i don't know anything about cvs is a terrible place to work but i just know john laster's joke about fuck cv you know i don't like the term karen i gotta be honest really yeah we've had this discussion i don't like it why not i i don't like it because i think it's i think it's normalizing exactly what we're trying to get away from in society which is to say that it's okay to disparage a group of people based on their color. You can have a black hair. I don't know the type that you're referring to, but it does. Now when we're more conscious of it than ever, the fact that we have, we're so excitable about any kind of generalization about anybody,

even if you, but there's, we have one big exception, which is, well, you can say what you want about white women. Well, wait a second. It's not just white women. It's a particular kind of a white woman. All right. And, and, um, is, as is to me, um, I wouldn't want to be the attorney who had to defend that, that line of, uh, uh, you know, that, that, that structure of, of logic. If, you know, I don't, I don't mind it in a joke or whatever. And I actually don't like in an everyday conversation, I don't mind it, but joke or whatever. And I actually don't like in an everyday conversation, I don't mind it,

but I do notice ever since the mayor of Chicago, was it Lightfoot? Is that her name? She responded to somebody who criticized her politically. They say, Oh, enough of you, Karen. That's when I turned a corner and said, you know what, this is, there's something wrong with that. When it, when it's actually become so normalized that a politician can use it as a comeback. In the public, you know,

upper levels of public sphere, like this is, I said, we've gone too far with this. This isn't a comedian anymore saying, Karen, I don't care about that. Or I don't care about, but this is people actually kind of saying, you know what?

It is okay to, to just describe people by their immutable characteristics. And that, and that should be enough to tell you everything you need to know about them. Well, if I'm saying that, you know, he was a, he was a, he was a Leroy. You know what I mean? I mean, imagine, you know, and, and, and, you know, he,

he was a hash fucking hash fucking Jaime. I mean, you know, but I mean, and you know, we could conjure up a perfectly realistic stereotype of what all these terms might mean in real life. Right. And, and wouldn't offend me, but, but in polite company, there's something, I think we're heading down the wrong path. If we're trying to really get away from this stuff and become one people, I think it's a bad idea and i don't i don't hope

you don't take this personally more it's because it's totally acceptable to say karen in 2020 i'm not you know i'm not denying maybe it's acceptable because they're the majority you can you can poke fun at the majority of the people the minorities they're the ones you can't poke at yeah well, well, that's true. A lot of people say that argument, and there is truth to that argument in the sense that you can say whatever you want about, you know,

Warren Buffett, and, you know, you can't hurt the guy, you know. But that's the same thing. But that is not the, but see, that's a very dangerous argument and i'm gonna tell you why okay i haven't even made it yet no this whole this whole punching down punching up thing is dangerous because what it's subtly doing is saying that this is not

actually about principle here this is about pragmatism it is what we're saying here is that it's not the problem really isn't generalizing people by the color of their skin. That's okay. And it might even be valid. What we're against here is simply the fact that when these people do it to those people, they have power over them so they can hurt them. But actually, we have no problem, theoretically, with the notion of it. Now, that is not what we grew up being taught. What we grew up being taught was that there was something fundamentally incorrect,

immoral, and illogical about judging people by the color of their skin, period, end of story. And yes, it can also manifest itself in some very dangerous outcomes when the people doing it are powerful and the people at the other end of it are weak. But that's not the point. It's also ugly when I say it to LeBron James, right? I mean, he's rich and powerful. It's just ugly. We used to understand that even though it's ugly, you could also joke with it a little bit. And among adults, we could also enjoy the jokes, right? And we do enjoy the jokes.

And we used to be able to hold two things in our head at once because we believed that intent mattered and we could judge vibe. And we felt we were layered individuals who could manage both. But, you know, there is no room for that stuff anymore by the new rules. Everything's based on a technicality. You could have all the good intentions in the world. Nobody cares. And so, I don't know.

I think I could be wrong. I have this reflex now when I hear something. Can we allow Maurice to respond? Yeah, yeah, please. Very long. And Perrielle jumping in and taking it is very Karen-ish of her, I will concede, but go ahead. No, I want

to hear her point. But I would like to get it... I'll keep it brief. It's about privilege and entitlement. So it's not just about white women. It's about this sort of idea of white women, and rightly so,

that they have historically had this position of privilege and then they think they're fucking entitled. And so that's really where it came from. Yeah, but it's a stereotype. And you're embracing a stereotype. And if you want to tell me, if you want to stay here, actually, let's go on record and look in the camera and say, all stereotypes are based on truth. And this is one of them. Go ahead and say that. I'm not going to say that. Okay. Well, you can't have it both ways. If you want to say that, I'll say, go ahead, say Karen. Say what you want. But that's the point that you're not going to say that. Okay. Well, that's something you can't have both ways. If you want to say that, I'll say, go ahead and say Karen and say what you want. But that's the point that you're not

going to say that. What you're going to say is no stereotypes are not based on truth. Only that stereotype is based on truth. No, I'm not going to say that. Tell me all stereotypes are based on truth. I would imagine that most stereotypes have some truth to that. So which ones? So the cheap Jews and the criminal element. That's why I'm saying, where do you want to go with this? Or are we just going to pretend that the logic I'm saying is just like, we're not intelligent people and nobody ever goes down this path logically. If you want to say all stereotypes are based on truth, then I'm fine with saying counter. I just said, I would imagine that most stereotypes have some truth to them.

Okay, then go ahead. So let's talk about the Jews. Which of the Jewish stereotypes is true, Mariel? Maurice, you go ahead, Maurice. Which of the Jewish stereotypes is true? Actually, as a little kid, I played in a Jewish basketball league. I was the leading scorer, rebounder, assistant, block shot. So they all do suck at basketball.

So I will. And they can't jump. What about the great Dolph Shays? No, you know, like with Karen, for me, like, especially like, because most of my audience is pharmacy people. So when I say I give an example or tell a joke about a Karen, in my instance, like the person could be black. But when I say Karen, they, like she said, they're like, okay,

here's an entitled person that feel like they can just call corporate and think that their prescription should go before everybody else. So I guess me, I get what you're saying that Karen is probably tied to a white woman with the haircut like this that has that sense of entitlement. But I guess until now, I never realized that Karen was just specifically

for white women. It was that kind of like women who think that they're having a sense of entitlement. What about the term sexual preference? Are you offended by that? If I say somebody's sexual, Danny's sexual preference is uh is men people like that yeah well you see there you go this is what so dandy because apparently uh i didn't know this either but amy coney barrett got in trouble today because she used the term sexual preference

and apparently this is no longer an acceptable term uh so to wacky world listen to be honest i'm just trying to keep the show a little provocative and interesting. I don't really care. I certainly don't care when you say Karen. I do mean what I say about when the mayor of Chicago said it. It did bother me. I know. I mean, maybe the mayor of Chicago, it's not that

polite to be saying that. But Maurice, so is it just fucking mayhem in the pharmacies right now? Are people just going ballistic? Yeah. I mean, it's crazy because they're, you're understaffed. So a lot of times it's just me and one technician and now they got this thing where you have to go grocery shop for the customer. So they come through the fucking drive through. You think it's a prescription,

it's a grocery list, like organic tampons, baby food, cereal. So cereal so you know i went to school for eight years and i'm walking around cvs fucking grocery shopping for people and you know everybody's screaming and you have to do it because it's covid so then people want flu shots the phone won't stop fucking ringing doctors calling now pharmacists can immunize kids so you got to give little timmy a shot and he's scared of a needle and he's running around the fucking store so one of these karen's gonna get their fucking menopause already no they're all they want is their xanax and their pain pills wait so you guys before were not allowed to immunize kids but now because of covid

you are but none of you are actually trained to do that uh that is correct we could do kids 10 and up but now with COVID in the hopes of the new vaccine it's three and up but it hasn't really been uh any training because there's no time yet so I mean giving a shot is giving a shot but also there needs to be some training. Like how do you give a shot to a kid that's like screaming and the needle sizes aren't really the same because some of the needles are using the delta like this long. You don't want to use that in the kid. And so.

But they haven't, they haven't given you those or they, they don't train. That seems. Well, they just assume that we're pharmacists. We'll figure it out. Basically.

What the hell did you do in four years of school? You didn't learn how to give a shot to a kid. You really have to train, like open a book and figure out how to give it. I mean, I just like, we have to train them. You're a fucking expert. You're a doctor. Go to the fucking Google. And I'll tell you, you know what? Hold on for five minutes. I'm going to tell you exactly how to give a shot to a kid. All right. Well, I'll get back to you.

It's not so much the administration, but like we don't have access to kids' records. So like, you know, when kids, they get a lot of shots and they come in series. So if someone just walks in the pharmacy with four kids, like, hey, my son needs this shot. I can't really tell if this is the appropriate shot because I don't have their fucking history.

No, giving a shot to somebody is something that requires at least a little bit of actual practice. Pharmacists are trained in that. You can read how to give a shot to somebody is something that requires at least a little bit of actual practice. Pharmacists are trained in that. You can read how to give a shot to somebody. That's kind of like reading how to drive a car. It'll only take you so far. You actually have to do it. I'm half kidding.

I mean, I had the best shot I've ever had in my life from the pharmacist at the local Duane Reade. It was an amazing shot. Huh? Why? Because It was an amazing shot. Huh? Why? Because it was a happy ending. Yeah, exactly. It was a happy ending.

What the fuck? No, it just, it was totally painless. Well, you'll know it's a good shot if you don't actually come down with the disease that it's supposed to protect you against. I mean, you know,

that's like, you know, somebody rating a good colonoscopy, you know, you don't know that you were asleep. Yeah. Okay. But I'm saying, and, and for all you know, they were, they were, they were, they were playing video games while you were out on propofol. I mean, to the extent that, to the extent that pediatricians, for instance, are trained on, on best practices on how to control a kid who's scared or squirming or whatever it is, then yeah, of course, pharmacists should get the benefit of that training too. Pediatricians don't give vaccines either. Nurses give vaccines. No, pediatricians do. Doctors know how to do it. I've had shots from doctors

Pediatricians don't get vaccines There's no rule that pediatricians don't get vaccines They get the nurses to do it because it's efficient I've had Growing up I had shots tons of times from my pediatrician That was like a hundred years ago Are you saying that doctors are not trained to give vaccinations? I'm not saying they're not trained to.

I'm saying they generally do not give vaccine. Yeah, they don't give it easily. Maurice, you're a comedy pharmaceutical in nature. You perform for a lot of pharmaceutical groups. You're comedy. Yeah, I mean, I perform at a lot of conventions, more so than pharmaceutical companies. The pharmacy conventions, a lot of the pharmacists there.

Most pharmacists are retail pharmacists. So they get kind of my jokes of what it's like working in, you know, like a CVS or any retail setting where it's hectic and kind of relating kind of like just my journey of somebody who worked on the West side of Chicago, the South side of Chicago. I worked in an all Hispanic area Chicago, the South side of Chicago. I worked in an all Hispanic area and I don't even know Spanish. I worked at a pharmacy in Chinatown. I don't know Chinese and kind of just my whole journey of working with different cultures and

kind of to where I'm at. It's just kind of interesting because I've also done a lot of health initiatives. Like I started a black barbershop health initiative to try to reduce health disparities in the African-American community where people could just come into a barbershop and have someone take their blood pressure. And then I would come and counsel and talk to them and then coordinate that with doctors so we could get them appropriate care. So I like to incorporate comedy, but also kind of like what I'm doing from a health initiative aspect. I like that story. I think that's great.

What do you call like a middle-aged difficult Asian lady? You guys must have a term for that. I don't have any of those, really. Listen, I want to tell you guys something. So, you know, I'm happy about this podcast because I'm right about almost everything. And something happened in news today and I'm kind of right about this too. I'm going to show our host disabled screen sharing.

This is why it pays to be a little bit early, Cariel. All right. Unless it's going to be instant, I'm just going to move on. It's done. It's done. Well, Cariel's gotten quick at that because she always forgets.

All right. So where is it it so you see the headline here europe overtakes u.s in new cases of covid19 and it says uh here the u.s uh where is it october seven day period u.s had a europe had 152 cases for every million residents while the u.s had 49 uh what am i reading here 150 for every million residents so we are europe is 152 per million and the u.s is now 150 we have two cases fewer per million people than Europe does. And that includes, of course, Europe has Germany in it, which has very low COVID and very disciplined practices. So I think to a fair-minded person without regard to politics would have to say that it becomes difficult to argue that Trump, that the absence of Trump is the main driver of our COVID situation

when Europe is worse. Am I incorrect here? You know what I have a problem with? I have a problem with this. They never tell you out of how many people that are taking the tests because I don't know how many people are taking the tests. Well, that was a the tests, because I don't know how many people are taking the tests. Well, that was- There was people taking tests there, then here?

Yeah, no, that was a valid point, but I think it now, at this point, testing is pretty even now. Testing is pretty ubiquitous all around now for people who want it. If anything, I don't know. I mean, apparently the United States has given the most tests.

It's an easy question, but whatever it is, no matter how that ripples through it, it's actually an interesting question. Even if it makes a slight difference, we're very close. Europe and America are basically neck and neck in the actual number of cases,

meaning that whatever Trump did wrong, I'm sure it's had some effect. But in the end, it's just delaying, it seems to be just delaying the inevitable. Now, it's better to get the inevitable later in the cycle than earlier, because we have better therapeutics, more experience, fewer people are going to die getting COVID. The chance of dying a year into COVID is going to be much less than the chance of dying from one of the first few cases of COVID because there's so much more experience now and so much better ways to take care of it. But in the end, it's spreading in Europe just like it's spreading here. So what did we do wrong? I don't know. I don't think we did anything wrong. You know, I mean,

it certainly takes the oomph out of the case. Didn't Trump strip the CDC of control of that data? So, like, where's the data coming from? Because they were reporting how many people had all those cases and he, like, stripped them of their power, I know, a couple months ago. No, I don't think that's right. I think we have good stats on America and Europe.

But look, what are the prescriptions that are being given for COVID cases? Do you give out prescriptions? Is that all done in the hospital? We actually had to thoroughly screen all the hydroxychloroquine prescriptions because um physicians were just calling it in for themselves their family members oh my god so like we could only give a certain quantity we had they had to have diagnosis codes that they were actually using it for rheumatoid arthritis so we were actually ran out because every you know everybody was just getting it from their doctors and hoarding it and people who actually have rheumatoid arthritis couldn't get it.

So it actually, we had to do a lot of screening. And we really gave it out after a while. Perrielle says, oh, my God. Perrielle says, oh, my God, to every common sense fact you throw at her. Of course they're going to do this. Wait a second. Wait a second. I hate admitting that you're right. But you said this months ago. I know. that you're right, but you said this months ago.

I know, and you attacked me for it. And I was like, no one was like, the doctors are just going to all take it for themselves. And I was like, that's insane. They are not. I said, no, I said they're going to take it for their families. Yes. We're talking about masks. And I said, N95 masks. They're going to grab a few for their family. They would not do it. I said, grow mask. They're going to grab a few for their family. They would not do it. It doesn't grow up.

They're people. However, I always enable screen sharing. I mean, why don't you talk about like most of the fucking time you can share things on the screen. And like a couple of times I forget and you always call that out. Listen, I want to tell everybody something because I've had thoughts about maybe running for office one day and I know that this podcast has ended that chance. But a lot of what I say is just to try to keep people like, I don't know, interested and maybe keep it a little, get people mad a little bit or be provocative or to be

interesting, you know, be devil's advocate. I mean, I don't, I don't want to say that I say things I don't believe in at all, but I, but I say things that I think are worth talking about, you know, and I don't like, I don't really know how I feel about Karen, but it's an interesting conversation, right? We should, it is worth talking about. The other thing is, first of all all i think you should run for office the other thing is is that i went everybody in at 701 and noam goes why are we so late today perriel he is irascible uh no one's gonna argue that point 701 by the way is is that something

that i wanted to admit that i haven't read in the news, but that I know very well what happened because they were pointing figures at the Hasidic communities and the Hasidic Jews, that they're super spreaders and the numbers went up. And I just want to say that before Rosh Hashanah, before the holidays, all these Orthodox Jews took a lot of tests

to find out if they were sick or not, so if they can have their family members over for the holidays and what the holidays were going to be like. So they took a lot of tests and there were spikes in my area. I'm in Red Zone. I'm in Midwood. But in all my area, in this area, in Borough Park, the neighborhood, there were spikes and not because of any other reason,

but because they cared enough to take tests and they were a lot of them were positive and a lot of them didn't have to go to the hospital but they were positive and so right there it's about taking tests who's taking tests how many are taking tests and out of the tests who's negative and who's positive i don't think that's right dann Danny. Really? Because I think in some of those communities, the numbers were up to like 7% positive rates. And I think if you were to increase the number of tests,

normally you would see the positive rate go down because you'd start testing more and more people who are like i don't have covid like who have no symptoms and no exposure like who gets tested people who somehow think there's some chance they might have it so when you see a positive rate up to seven percent they all have it they most probably they go to shul they go to their or they're all yes they're they probably all have it like church going peoplegoing people. If you go to church, you're going to go. I'm torn about this because I have the reflex. I feel bad for them. And I know, listen, they were getting the measles.

All right? We know their mentality. I don't have any bad feelings towards them. But they live kind of by their own rules. And they're endangering their loved ones. I don't really feel I understand what makes them take it. Certainly not all of them. I've been reading about it. Like, I was reading the Chabad website.

I was curious about it. And there was some pretty strong language there about it. People ought to take precautions and blah, blah, blah. And they were being very responsible. But then at the same time, there was one page which went into this whole talmudic discussion of wearing a mask whether it was a garment and it was kind of like mitigating what seemed to me to be obvious which is that the the bible the torah always um allows you to protect life you know that's that's we all learned that in hebrew school and i don't know if ma learned it in Hebrew school. I think that what I do think is lost in that conversation, I don't know if this is valid, but it's certainly real, is that that lifestyle of gathering and prayer and congregating is so deeply important to their happiness and mental health in

that community that it is not there's not an analog in it in our life to what we're giving up and and it's it's very very hard for them to spend a year giving up on what is... There is an analog among comedians whose entire sense of self-worth is based on whether my last joke killed or not. Well, okay, so let's say that. Don't we all know that if the comedians could, they would have been gathering and telling jokes and whatever it is. They would have bent the rules for themselves. I don't know. I'm also a coward. So we have two forces battling each other,

the force of cowardice and the force of needing approval. And I don't know what would win out necessarily. But I said it's not valid because the governor, he has to protect life. And if he has to play hardball with them, then he's going to have to play hardball with them. I hope he does it.'s not fair though because what you're saying about them is true for all of us like luis have you done comedy during this time or have you been out of work comedy wise uh well i've had a lot of pharmacy organizations asking me to do zoom comedy shows but i don't know how

i feel about that because when i'm at the laugh factory or zany's there's three four hundred people and it's you know you get to work the room whereas being on a zoom call just it's just different and you know actually last week zany's and laugh factory reached out to me to perform but it's like the zany's in chicago is already a small intimate room already and then having having it, you know, all the tables spread out is really not that. I would also add that nobody's getting laid after a Zoom show. I don't know if you're a married man, but it's, it's hard to ask a girl to come over with, you know,

Now you have a better excuse there. I'm just going to wait. But no, no. What I'm saying is that, I mean, Danny knows, Danny knows it can be better than I do, but you're talking about a life of scripted ritual, basically from the minute they wake up to the minute they go to bed. And I don't think that's comparable in all lives. And that disruption is very jarring to them.

And again, I'm not excusing it. I'm just saying, like, you know, let's understand. They're probably going to be positive. Most of them are going to be positive. And they've probably been positive for the past few months and it hasn't changed. I'm sure there's just been the same amount of positive cases from, let's say, I don't know, April since Purim.

Let's just say from Passover. May, June, July, I don't know, April since Purim. Let's just say from Passover. May, June, July. It hasn't changed. I think they've all, nothing's changed for them. So there's a sudden spike. What do you mean? Look how I've switched. Well, hold on.

Because when COVID first started, remember I was so nervous. I was thinking about editing out because I said on the air that I told my staff not to go shop at B&H. Remember I said that? And I was so worried that people were going to call me anti-Semitic because before it ever happened, I knew.

I said, I know how the hostages and everything. They're going to have COVID. So I was like, I literally told my employees, don't go to B&H. Before the lockdown. There's nothing to be disproving about that. It's a fact they have to pray in minions of 10 people

yeah they have three times a day they have to so what's 10 people it usually turns out to be 30 people or 40 people

or 50 people and they're in a small room praying together so you're right you're very these fucking chayims you got

you can't you can't put up with them. Go ahead. Anyway, so I'm saying, like, I'm flipping. So just saying that, like, early, early, early on, even before the lockdown, I was worried about what was going to happen to Hasidic community. And now that they really are a hot spot

and getting it, you know, very harsh from the city officials i'm trying to understand what's going on but i i think in the end they have to take a lot of the blame they just yeah i mean come on it's like everybody's fucking disrupted like this is bullshit i want to know and when uh we is there any word on uh the reopening of the comedy cellar maurice i assume you're uh familiar with the comedy cellar it is fairly well known i know you're out there in the midwest yeah um yeah i'm not sure i know like a lot of the venues like at least where i'm at in illinois until there's a vaccine

they can't go to full capacity. So, right now. But Zany's is having shows? Zany's and Laugh Factor are both having shows at limited capacity. And I think it's like 25%. And I think they can go up to 50 once there's an actual vaccine.

Periel does a lot of shows at diminished capacity, too. Oh, boy. What? Perry L does a lot of shows at diminished capacity too. Noam, is there any new, is there any, is there any word from, from the mayor or whomever is in charge when this is, when you'll be able to do that sort of thing? No. Whenever that vaccine comes out.

There's no vaccine coming, right, Dr. Shaw? I mean, this nonsense that there's going to be a vaccine in the next month is bullshit. What are you talking about? They're doing tests on vaccines. Well, there is a vaccine coming. Whether it's available in the next month just kind of just depends. Sometimes they're able to fast track vaccines. I know a lot of the vaccine makers said they're not going to rush it just because the president wants it out sooner. So it kind of just depends on if they fall to the pressures of the president, try to push it forward to get it ready in the next month, or they just take their time and do how vaccines are supposed to. Probably, I would think, February or March.

They should be paying human trials. I don't know what they're dilly-dallying for. What about this monoclonal antibodies or whatever that Trump took? Is that the Regeneron or the Remdesivir? Yeah, I mean, Trump went from testing positive to testing negative in like 12 days or something? It happens to some people.

Maybe he got lucky. Maybe he's robust. Or maybe those treatments are effective but we i don't know that we what do you say maurice what do you say um it's it's hard to say because of the source i don't know know who to believe but just just because of those monoclonal antibodies i don't know that he necessarily got rid of it that fast we don't know when exactly he got it he could have just been you know let's say he got a 14 21 days you know before he got that test and then a couple days later he was already at that kind of like 14 week period and

he would have his body would have rid it anyway so my friend tested positive they had fever for three days by the by the fifth day they were fine yeah i mean i've known people i don't know if they tested negative but i do know people that were symptom free after a fairly small number of days so i just think people i don't think we really we know that obesity and diabetes and we know certain things exacerbated i don't think we know but i think there's other things that we don't know. Certain blood types, perhaps. They talk about vitamin D. They talk about receptors that some people have, other people don't. I don't think we're 100% clear on all the factors. One thing is for sure, the Hasids were praying for Trump. We know that. So that might have had an impact.

Maybe Trump's political stance is, you know, and God favors Trump. Power of prayer. Power of prayer. But, you know, you never know. Anyway, any other topics? Because we are at the end of our normal hour show. Perrielle, say something ridiculous so we can, so we can all jump on you. What else? What else? What else?

Just what if this first thing that comes to your head? I just think it's so preposterous that anybody's believing this nonsense about Trump testing negative. I mean, he, like, he's like, infected that entire White House. And also, my comedy shows do very well, thank you very much. For the record. I don't know

if I need to explain the joke to you or this is your... Does anybody want to comment on, I know we spoke about it briefly last time, Bill Burr on SNL saying that white women have been basically, you know, all these years. Enjoying the blood money all these years. Enjoying the benefits of white supremacy and colonization and slavery, etc. And now have decided that they're going to complain about discrimination. That's essentially what Bill Burr said, and he's gotten in some trouble for it.

Does anybody have any comments to make about that? You stay out of this, Maurice. What do you think, Maurice? Did you see it? I didn't see it, but I heard so much about it, and kind of like he eloquently explained his points. I mean, it's just one of those things that, you know, I think now with social media, it doesn't matter if you're a white woman, a black person. Like now people are just going to complain until, you know, because it's you can do that that now i don't think it's just so much just white women i think it's just everybody it's just now it's like complain to to get your kind of way

so why were people upset with burr about that that was that was that was good solid social commentary right there well i was upset i assume they were upset well i don't know i why were they upset by that well he said something else too that was of some somewhat controversial but I guess they were upset because it was seen as anti women as misogynist oh yeah he he had he wrote the most brilliant bit about the gay month of June being gay pride and how a black history month was given, which is the worst month of the year. It's gloomy. It rains.

It sucks. Nobody wants to have a parade during February. And there's only 28 days. It's the shortest month and it's the worst month. Of course, they're going to give it to the blacks. I mean, the gays, when they were enslaved, they only sing and dance. So it was something like-

And he said, and if you gave blacks July, then gay blacks could have two straight months to celebrate. That's right. That was the whole thing. I thought it was phenomenal. I thought it was great. I don't know if they have black history month

in Australia, but certainly February is a decent month there. The aborigine, don't fuck with the aborigine. They like their February. I would say that as far as Bill Burr's joke is concerned, it aborigine, don't fuck with the aborigine. They like their February. I would say that as far as Bill Burr's joke is concerned, it was funny, but I don't really necessarily know how true it is that white women have hijacked anything. In other words, are we seeing less racial consciousness because white women are asserting their rights?

And not just white women, but women in general. I mean, in other words, I'm not seeing his point was that white women have hijacked the woke movement of hijack, you know, that, and I, and that implies that, that we're not paying attention to racial issues. And I don't think that's true. I think we're paying attention to everything. And I think that everybody that has a beef has a right to, to express that, you know? So I don't see it. Although it was funny. I don't, I don't think that white women have hijacked anything. I think they've added their own, their own legitimate protest. I think that's, I think that what he's getting at,

I don't know if he actually gave it this much thought, but there's this whole intersectional concept and somehow if you can become part of another oppressed group, which is women, then you can position

yourself on the other side of that line. And what he's saying is that by positioning themselves on the other side of that line as And what he's saying is that by, by positioning themselves on the other side of that line as women, they're kind of, it's kind of a, a, um, bait and switch. We're losing, we're losing our, the clarity of the fact, no, these are white people. And, you know, yes, you're women, but you also all belong on that other side of the line because all day long, you're white benefiting from everything white. You're there while you're maybe you were in the home, but you were benefiting from all the fucked up shit that your man was doing.

And we're not going to we're allowing it. We're allowing women to dilute their whiteness by defining themselves by their womanhood. I think that's what he's saying, whether it's true or not. And there is something subtly about that. Women are not called to answer for their whiteness so much, except for the Karens, because they can focus on their beef as women. And by the way, before we go,

we'll talk about it next week. There's a fascinating thing in marginalrevolution.com a couple of days ago, You can look it up. Showing that women Uber drivers, there's two studies now about anonymous work. Women Uber drivers because the Uber fares are disseminated randomly by the Uber dispatching software. And there's another thing that they have there, some other kind of anonymous work. Women make 10% less than men

in both these anonymous work environments where nobody knows their gender. But for instance, in Uber, women drive more slowly, don slowly, for whatever reason, won't drive in the more congested areas. There's all sorts of reasons. There's all sorts of differences in just the general attitude about women, and they make 10% less. And there's another thing, too. I can't remember what it is, but I'll get it for next week, where women are also making about 10% less than men, even though their gender is totally blind to the work and what do you think this is a dramatic fact is dramatic

what do you extrapolate from that teaser for our next episode where we discuss we got to get we should get the open you get the writer of that study on the show. It's amazing. We have Al Martin next week. I don't know if he has... Hey, you know who you guys should get? You guys should get ZDoggMD. Oh, yeah. He was going to come on, and then COVID

happened, and he got really busy. That's kind of like how my popularity because I did a video with him, and it got almost 500,000 views. If he comes back, if he comes on, will you come on back with him? Hell yeah. He's the reason why I got so much kind of popularity and kind of, at least in the pharmacy realm and medical realm.

Well, yeah, I'll definitely be on. Tell him his boy, Maurice. We have a shit ton of comedian lawyers. I'm one of them. There's Greg, the late Greg Giraldo was another. Mike Sweeney is another. Well, the list goes on. But comedy, comedians in the medical profession are a little more rare. So this is sort of an interesting.

Hey, my friend, he's a pharmacist. His name's LeVar Walker. You heard of him? I have not. Well, I've heard of his name. He's been on Last Comic Standing. He had a Kevin Hart special. He won the Shaq All-Stars.

Check him out. He's a good dude, a good friend of mine. He's also a pharmacist and hilarious. I should have gone into pharmacy, I think. That's a good, stable profession. Hey, us black legal drug dealers, people like it. So I guess we will... If if periel needs a new diaphragm does she get that from the pharmacist and the other no nothing no we don't we don't do that

over the counter i thought you i thought you don't you need a prescription for a diaphragm yeah but we can only we can well there's, but typically I can only bill for like medication, anything that's considered like a medical device. Can I get fitted for something like that? Do people use the diaphragm or is that outdated? That's why I said it was outdated. That's pretty much outdated. That's a Karen thing.

Hey, one more question for you. When somebody comes in for like a prescription for, you know, I don't know, not even Viagra, but for like one of these, this thing that Harvey Weinstein was doing, like the injection, like the,

the, the Dick Hardening injectors or, you know, Valtrex or wait, I want, you know, something that really is a, is a,

that clear, really lets you know what they got going on. What, what's the bubble over your head? I mean, you're like, I remember this lady, she I mean, you're like. I remember this lady, she had a STD, and she goes, how you doing?

I'm like, pretty good. And she's like, how come you didn't say it back? I was like, well, I know how you're doing. No point in me saying it back. So sometimes, you know, my technicians, you know, we're kind of controlled by HIPAA. So you can't say anything. You know, the technicians are like, oh, is his Viagra ready? And I'm like, you know, you say you're always, you know, they don't really fire technicians, but they'll fire a pharmacist quick for HIPAA. Or it's just like, you know, now I live in like a small town.

So when I was in Chicago, you would help help a customer but you probably wouldn't see them for another 30 days or 90 days but in the small town you kind of know everybody so like when you see like this older guy who gets a lot of he's getting his viagra refill you see him at a gas station with this young girl you're like okay that's that's why he needs that viagra or so-and-so has herpes and you see him at the gym and you're just like god i wonder if that herpes is flaring up now so you actually see the people in their prescription so now it's a little bit weirder but maybe there's some days you somebody has like like that's that's rarer than a pharmacist with erectile dysfunction anyway we uh we gotta go all right well thank We got to go. All right. Well, thank you, everybody. Where can we find you, Maurice? Tell everybody.

Yeah, find me mainly on YouTube, RxComedy. Follow my channel. I have a Facebook page, RxComedy pharmacy page. Check that out as well. A lot of followers on there. Can we get prescriptions there too? No, but when I start my comedy tour, it'll be the no prescription comedy tour. followers on there. Can we get prescriptions there too? No, but when I start my comedy tour, it'll be the

No Prescription Comedy Tour. You'll have a free ticket. All right, Danny Cohen, we thank you. You know I'm on Instagram. I saw you at the Cellar a couple months ago. Let me know if you're going back, if you're going to go for dinner

one of these days. I'm going to. Yeah, all right. Podcast at ComedyCellar.com for all questions, comments, and suggestions.

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