The Comedy Cellar: Live from the Table - Gad Elmaleh

Episode Date: February 11, 2016

Gad Elmaleh...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Comedy Cellar Show here on Sirius XM Channel 99, the comedy channel. We're here with Krista Montella, of course, and I'm going to turn it over to my co-host, Mr. Dan Natterman, to introduce our guest of honor. Go ahead, Dan. Well, thank you, Noam. This is a guest that I've been trying to book now for a while. He's a very, very famous comedian in his native France, and he's now trying to take over America. Gad Elmala, thank you for coming to the show. Thanks for having me. Bonsoir. How are you? Bonsoir. Okay, bonsoir. Everybody knows what that means.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Yes. That means good evening. I meant good appetite. We have a very good level of languages here tonight. So Gad, as you may know, he's doing a show in New York at Joe's Pub from now until June. Yes. Called Oh My Gad. I didn't
Starting point is 00:00:51 know that. That's wonderful. Yeah, he's doing it I think twice a week? No, four nights a week. Yeah, until June. Exactly. Okay, and this is now why did you decide, this is a question I know you've been asked 80 billion times. Yeah, but my answer is better now.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Okay. Okay, I've been practicing. Why have you decided, because you have everything there is to have in France. You have the cars, the girls, the money, everything. Everything. And all this. I'm starting over. By the way, this is no joke.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I mean, we've had French people come here that pretend to be famous. They all say they're famous. Every French person that comes here says they're famous. They're not. This guy is legit. You can't walk down the street with this dude. But you did the same thing when you came to France. You pretended to be very famous in America. Come on. Yeah, well, yes.
Starting point is 00:01:40 And that's why I say you can't believe it. At the cellar, you're like one of the... I'm famous in this room. He's a big fish in a small pond. By the way, let me tell you something. I'm very happy to be sitting here at this table because I know this table is very, very important table. This table is when you sit at this table,
Starting point is 00:02:00 that means like you're in the family, right? Yes. Comedians, that's the corner. Normally, when you begin, you look at them from there, right? Here, this is the, comment tu dis? Sacre. It's sacred. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:14 So I'm sitting here. But just for the show, then they're going to kick me out. No, no, no. You're always welcome here. All right, good. So why am I doing this in English? To be really honest with you, I needed something very exciting, you know? And I feel exactly like I felt 20 years ago
Starting point is 00:02:29 when I started stand-up in France, obviously in France. It's new. Everything is new. You know, I'm nervous. I don't know if the jokes are going to work. The language is really a challenge. So I just want to start over. I'm not saying I have everything, as you mentioned, in France, but I want to, I don't know, I want to start over I'm not saying I have everything
Starting point is 00:02:45 as you mentioned in France but I want to I don't know I want to be excited can I ask you can I ask you a question about that
Starting point is 00:02:51 is that okay Dan can I ask a question of course yes so because it reminded me of something that I heard once where they asked Paul McCartney
Starting point is 00:02:56 why does he keep making records you have everything money he says I don't understand the question he says I'm a musician that's what I do I make music why would they think that I would a musician. That's what I do. I make music.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Why would they think that I would stop doing this? And I would imagine that when you achieve a certain level of fame, the idea that you can get that energy of when you started again, the challenge, the challenge again, it's something to wake up for. Yeah, the only difference between me and Paul McCartney is that I had to learn English. The challenge again is got to be... He's not just... It's something to wake up for. Yeah, the only difference between me and Paul McCartney is that I had to learn English. Didn't he write in French?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Michel... Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a play monkey. Son des mots qui vont très bien ensemble. My Michel. You're right. But it's just like, you know when I come here and I see those very famous comedians, they come and they test, they try out, they try new material.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Louis C.K. or Chris Rock or Jerry Seinfeld, when they come to the cellar, you can say the same thing. What's matter, what's important, it's the work, you know? It's not because you're famous that you don't try this anymore and you don't challenge yourself and you don't work out and you don't start over. I'm starting over.
Starting point is 00:04:04 By the way, he's not just a famous comic. He's the fourth highest paid actor, I believe. Yes. I read that in French. Fourth? Why fourth? That's- That's what I read. Yeah. Need a new agent. And he has an estimated net worth.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Dan. I'm sorry. No, no, go ahead. Go ahead. I'm the one who's estimating, by the way. And then we talk about yours and how much they give you here every night is it is it is there also
Starting point is 00:04:27 and I just wanted this is there also something special about making it in America as opposed to any place else in the world
Starting point is 00:04:35 why explain that because you know we know that as a cliche as an idea American dream but this is what
Starting point is 00:04:42 I'm trying to do right now I've been dreaming of doing something in English and in America since I was a kid as an idea, an American dream, but this is what I'm trying to do right now. I've been dreaming of doing something in English and in America since I was a kid, even when I moved, because I live in France, but I'm not French. I was born in Morocco. I've been living in France for 20 years,
Starting point is 00:04:57 but I was born and raised in Morocco. And my dream was America, always. Even when I was a kid, it was America. Can you explain that for Americans? I don't think Americans quite understand how America is viewed by the rest of the world in that sense. That's why I think it's very funny when I hear that some people want to make America great again. Because for us, it's already great. It's still great.
Starting point is 00:05:22 But also by America, people mean like New York, LA, and Chicago. No one's dreaming of going to North Dakota. Maybe not a dream, but I've been to those places. I've been to those places and I performed in Austin, Texas, and Dallas, and a lot of places. And this is really challenging. Have you been to Dallas? Oh, yeah. I did my show in Dallas and it was not easy.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And you noticed differences? Oh, yeah. I did my show in Dallas, and it was not easy. And you noticed differences? Oh, a lot. Yeah. So in France, somehow America is simultaneously, correct me if I'm wrong. Hated. No, considered to be extremely unsophisticated in a certain way, like the ugly American type, you know, like, and at the same time, kind of the gold standard for... Well, for comedy, we are the gold standard.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Nobody can dispute it. Well, for the arts in many ways. No. No? Not for the arts. For comedy. For the popular. Well, for comedy, we are the gold standard. Nobody can dispute it. Well, for the arts in many ways. No. No? Not for the arts. For comedy. For the popular. Well, what about...
Starting point is 00:06:09 Not for cinema? Stand-up in New York and movies in Hollywood. And what about music? Popular music? Okay. Well, they love our music, too. I thought you were
Starting point is 00:06:21 talking about arts, like the painters and the writers. No, not like Renaissance art. Like pop. No, I don't mean painting. I know nothing about painting about ours, like the painters and the writers. No, not like Renaissance art. No, I don't mean painting. I know nothing about painting. I meant like the stuff that... They love our music, too.
Starting point is 00:06:31 When I was in France the first time, I went to do a radio show there. And who's sitting beside me but Adam Levine from Maroon 5. You can actually see that on YouTube, by the way, me and Adam Levine on the radio together. I did see that. But the point is that they can't get enough American music, American comedy, and so it's a love-hate. Yeah, totally. Because, yeah, there's this fascination and also this, oh, Americans, they're not really,
Starting point is 00:06:58 come on, you need the finesse. They don't have the finesse. It's a paradox. That's an English word. I didn't know they had that in France. That's very funny because sometimes that happens with Americans. I talk about someone, like I say, oh, I'm French. I was with Marion Cotillard in Paris, and they say, oh, I don't know who she is.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And then I say, yeah, you know that movie La Vie en Rose? Oh, you mean Marion Cotillard? And he's correcting me, and he's talking about a French name. And he's... That's Americans. They want to tell you how you should say something even in French. That is American. Gad, by the way, has a show tonight.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I'm amazed at his calmness. Because I've done comedy in French, as you know, and as our listeners know. And my whole day, I cannot, I'm so nervous. And this is why I haven't gone to France and explored that option for myself because the level of anxiety. But, Gad, you have a show tonight at 9. I have a show, but to tell you the truth, this is kind of a warm-up. But you know what happens?
Starting point is 00:08:02 I don't know if this happens to you when you talk in French, but when I speak in English for more than 30 minutes, my brain is so tired. My brain gets tired. I can do shows in France for two hours, jumping, screaming, do the jokes, everything. I'm never tired. As soon as I work the English stuff,
Starting point is 00:08:22 more than 30, 40 minutes, my brain is going crazy. And that doesn't get better as you spend more time in the States? Yeah. But he's hanging out with French people all the time. No, what do you mean? I'm hanging out with you. And with...
Starting point is 00:08:35 Harrison Greenbaum. Also. He will be here later. Yeah, and other great comedians. Do you change your show, like your act at all, to do it in English? Is there a lot of elements that are changed? Oh yeah, I didn't translate my French show. I wanted to do it
Starting point is 00:08:50 when I first came here, but then I realized that, no, I had to write stuff about me coming to America, my perspective on Americans. This is more, this is interesting, you know. I have a few jokes that I've translated to English because they are
Starting point is 00:09:05 universal and they can be translated, but otherwise, no. People want to know about you. Your imitation of Nicolas Sarkozy, great as it is, would not kill here. He does an imitation of Nicolas Sarkozy. I'm telling you, you think you're in the room with Nicolas Sarkozy. I mean, if you knew who he was.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Oh, that's a very if you knew who he was and if we that's a very... If you knew who he was, and if we were not on radio. This is a lot of conditions. You know who he is. But you don't know what he sounds like. No, no. All right, so it doesn't matter. He does an imitation of me, by the way, Gad, speaking French.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I don't know if I want to put you on the spot, but... Do you do an imitation of Dan? I do an imitation of Dan. Dan asks me to do something in French. And now, I have people who say it's not worth it. British accent. Do you get any joy, whatever your misgivings about what you've accomplished in your life, the most famous comedian in France is doing a Dan Natterman imitation on the radio. Don't you understand that that's something? Dan Natterman.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Dan Natterman. You are somebody. Hey, hey. Hi, Dan Natterman. Hey, hey. How come I'm married? Oh, no. My mom thinks you're gay. How come Uncle Daniel Not married Married Oh no Mom My mom thinks you're gay
Starting point is 00:10:28 I think those are Jokes yeah There's a guy From another He's multi talented He's a Actor He's also a musician
Starting point is 00:10:36 Which I know Noam's a musician too Oh I know that I didn't know you were a musician I know Did you see I sent you a video Of him singing
Starting point is 00:10:42 Isn't she lovely With some chick named Irma Who's that Oh she's great singer French singer yeah we did that video what do you play?
Starting point is 00:10:49 I play guitar and mandolin wow just like Steve Martin and I play the oud oud? yeah are you serious?
Starting point is 00:10:55 yeah yeah is there a picture this man here was I'm pointing to a picture was our in my father's his name was Ali Hafid
Starting point is 00:11:02 he was Moroccan and he played the dungbag and the oud and he was like our best my father's best friend growing up Hafid he was Moroccan and he played the Dumbag and the Oud and he was like our best my father's best friend growing up and he was a genius
Starting point is 00:11:08 and I learned he's Moroccan or Iranian? Moroccan Moroccan okay do you know Anwar Abraham? no I don't know I'm not familiar with
Starting point is 00:11:16 except like the Oud is my is a great instrument you know how to play Oud? yeah wow so one day we should hang out and I want to listen to the Oud
Starting point is 00:11:24 I play Darbuka, the little, like the Dumbach, you know? Yeah, yeah. Noam has a music club around the corner, which I'm sure you'd be welcome to do a guest.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Well, he's friendly with George and George is the, you know. Well, you know, do you really, in your secret heart of hearts, because I think this is the case with a lot of comics. You know what secret heart of?
Starting point is 00:11:42 Heart of hearts. Okay. Au fond de toi, ma'am. Oh, I didn't know this one. Yeah, your heart of hearts. Heart of hearts. Yeah, heart of hearts. lot of comics. You know what's secret heart of? Heart of hearts. Okay. Au fond de toi, ma'am. Oh, I didn't know this one. Yeah, your heart of hearts. Heart of hearts. Yeah, heart of hearts. Heart of hearts.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Do you want to be a musician on some level more than a comedian? Oh, yeah. I wanted to be a musician. I wanted to be a jazz... Jazz.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Do you say jazz or jazz? Jazz. Jazz. Jazz, piano, pianist. This is what I wanted. I play piano. This is what I wanted. I play piano. This is what I do. But I'm not gifted and it didn't work enough.
Starting point is 00:12:11 So that's it. I gave up. But there's nothing that makes me more happy than listening to jazz, watching and listening to people playing music. This is my thing, really. I think a lot of comedians are... I don't know if you know this, but I carry a pretty mean tune.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Although Noam swears I have no rhythm whatsoever. I've never seen anything like it, Dan. You have no rhythm. I think you exaggerate my lack of rhythm. No. Carry a tune how? Singing? Singing, yes.
Starting point is 00:12:41 What do you mean? I mean, I sing. I sing in this show. It's surprising because they say that every comedian, they have this sense of rhythm and melody. Well, Noam is, I was clapping. He was singing some song, and I'm clapping, and Noam just starts barking at me like an angry Kurd.
Starting point is 00:12:56 You know, we play here acoustically sometimes, and we have like a tambourine or shaker, various percussion instruments. Apparently, I can't clap. And Dan is, and I do it with pain, but the guys are looking at me. He's one of the only people I've ever seen who picks up a tambourine and it's so disruptive.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I say, put it down. Put it down. Like it's like, and I believe, I mean, I believe, like it's really like, you know, you can't overcome it. But I believe that it is
Starting point is 00:13:22 extreme self-consciousness. Yeah, exactly. Because rhythm is very primitive in a way, and you have to surrender yourself to rhythm. You told me I had no rhythm. I'm telling you that only evening. You don't display any sense of rhythm. Well, I'm telling you, I was so despondent, Daddy.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You probably thought, what does Dan care if he doesn't have rhythm? He's a comic. But I actually felt terrible. Well, that's making me feel bad, Dan. I'll be sure to lie to you, but I really... I'll lie to you next time. What about the cajon?
Starting point is 00:13:49 You know this instrument? Yeah, that's it. You sit on it. I love it. You mean the balls? No, not the balls. No, no, no, no, no. Forget about the balls.
Starting point is 00:13:55 You sit on it. It's like a box and you tap this box with your hands. You do percussion, but you also do piano. You know what? You just gave me a great idea. We sit on stools when we play.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I should have them make a stool with a cajon as the seat. So that when you could actually just at any time. Oh, you can take a stool and surround it. Somehow just build it into a stool so when you're sitting you can just like this at any time. Yeah, good idea, yeah. Yeah, that would be great. And also a saxophone on the side.
Starting point is 00:14:26 One man band and a flute up here. And a flute up here. Gad, I also wanted to mention, Gad is so famous in France, by the way, that when he comes to America to play, he can fill a room up with French people that just happen to be in town. Yeah, that's true. We sold out Beacon Theater many times just with not French people, but expats, French speakers.
Starting point is 00:14:45 When I say French speakers, it's, you know, Africans, North Africans, Switzerland, I don't know, Belgium, French, obviously. And your show, now that you're doing it at Joe's Pub, which you do, you can go to joespub.com, I guess. Yeah, exactly. And to buy tickets. But how many people in the audience are French fans and how many are new American fans? In the beginning, I would say it was 90 expats and 10 Americans. Now, I think we're getting almost half-half. And it's great.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And my goal is to have 100% American crowd. You attribute that to word of mouth, people enjoying it and telling their friends? Yeah, the shows and being on TV. We sold out because I went to those talk shows, and it helped a lot, you know? And also to me faire découvrir. How do you say this? To get your exposure.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah, to the American crowds. Because I do something that I never do in France. After my show, I hang out, and I talk to the audience. I don't do this in France, because it's arenas. But here, it's great. my show, I hang out and I talk to the audience. I don't do this in France because it's arenas. But here, it's great.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Small room, I hang out like here and I speak to Americans and they say, oh, I heard you on NPR. That's why I came. Wow, really?
Starting point is 00:15:55 Nice. So maybe the next one is going to say that he heard that show on Sirius. But why aren't you, I hope so. Of course.
Starting point is 00:16:04 How many people do you think? Well, there could be... We have no idea. There's this one guy uptown. This one guy with a tinfoil hat. Yeah, with a flute. Why aren't you coming to the... I know you played here years ago,
Starting point is 00:16:19 and I think you did quite well of Memory Surge. I don't know. Not that well. I think it's a very... Well, you didn't blow the place up. You didn't blow the place up, but you did pretty well. And this is, you know, an American... I think this would be a good place
Starting point is 00:16:31 for you to... I would love, but this is the place that gets me really nervous. I get very nervous when I come here. Very nervous. It's like an exam, you know? Is that because of the peers that are here watching you? This and a lot of great comedians doing so well, used to it, very easy.
Starting point is 00:16:51 They do it every night for years. But I want to do it, you know? So I did it. I went to a few clubs. I want to come back and do it. It's just a question of confidence. And you do get half off On kebabs
Starting point is 00:17:08 If you perform That would be the only reason That's the reason why I did the comedians in cars getting coffee For the breakfast Nice breakfast You and Jerry are very close friends To the extent that Jerry has close friends He seems seems, you know, our sense of him.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Do you know Jerry at all? No. I mean, he chooses his friends. You know, he's not as warm. No, he has two. One up, down, one downtown. Yeah, okay. I live downtown.
Starting point is 00:17:37 All right. So he had you on Comedians in Cars. Yes. And Woody Allen put you in his movie. Yes. What's your, you in his movie. Yes. Is your goal to conquer? You say you want to challenge, and that's in and of itself enough reason to come here.
Starting point is 00:17:53 But what are your career goals in the United States? I would like to do my stand-up show, my one hour in English. I'll do a special maybe for TV in one year or two years from now. I'm working very hard on it. This is my goal. First French comedian on American TV with a one hour special. This is my goal.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And what about potentially a sitcom? Because I'm thinking he could be like the new Ricky Ricardo. No, we're thinking about a show, maybe. Maybe. We're thinking with some writers and producers about a show. My story, basically. You know, a French guy comes to New York and goes out here with the comedians and the everyday life and perspective on this guy. We're thinking about maybe doing something like that.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Gad, if you do that, if you do not write a part for Dan Natterman, I will lose respect. I will call Joe's pub. No, I'm just a great guy. Because he didn't say if you do that, then you don't shoot here in the cellar. Because he doesn't need that. That's the confidence. You see? No, it's just not my nature.
Starting point is 00:19:01 I proposed to him the other day potentially as a writer. Although he didn't necessarily leap on that. Do you want me to remind you all the things that I've proposed to you and you didn't respond? Well, I told you. A threesome with your wife, I don't do that. But I'm kidding. He's never been married.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Dan is a gem, and I do not understand why somebody has not picked this gem up, polished it off a little bit, and shown it. Well, he just said because Dan constantly turns down anything. No, I didn't turn down anything. He mentioned a possibility. You don't want to talk about this? No, okay, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:19:37 But he talked about working together in France. I have to get an hour together before we can do anything. My problem with Dan, I'm sorry to interrupt, but my problem with Dan is that he is so Ashkenaz and I am so terrified. My problem, I get excited,
Starting point is 00:19:56 enthusiasm. I play the tambourine when there's good news. I sing. We cook, I don't know, chicken. But this guy, you can tell him, oh, I'm doing the bacon. Oh, good. Good for you. See you tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:20:12 What the fuck is going on? I want to show some enthusiasm. I love that he attributes it as an Ashkenazi characteristic. Well, I don't know. I mean, here in America, it's mostly Ashkenazi. For our listeners that don't know, these are the two types of Jew. The Ashkenazi and the Sephardic. The Sephardics are more from North Africa.
Starting point is 00:20:31 The Sephardics are more Arabic people. They're the laid-back, friendly people who know how to have a good time. The Ashkenazis are the uptight people who don't know how to show any emotion. With no rhythm. That's what we are. No rhythm. Quite funny, though. We're quite funny. We're known to be funny. I do want to... I think you
Starting point is 00:20:50 really were extra harsh on me with regard to the rhythm. I was clapping in tune. I don't understand. I'll have to videotape it. Making his way to the stage, we've recognized him from his appearances on Letterman. Give it up for Dan Natterman! Thank you so much. And another hand for Mr. Artie Fuqua. Artie Fuqua, that's the one right over there.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Let him know that you appreciate him. How are you guys doing in the front row? Pardon? Oh, good, he's saying. And that's your wife, sir? Girlfriend? Where are you two from? You're not Americans. So, welcome from... Are you understanding everything I'm saying? I'm not talking too fast. How many languages do you speak? You go to Europe, but don't be that impressed. That's what they do in Europe.
Starting point is 00:21:41 They speak different languages. We're not dumb in America. We just don't... We don't need to speak different languages. We're not dumb in America, we just don't need to speak other languages. I got a friend, Juergen, who speaks four languages. He lives in Germany. He said to me, Dan, how come you Americans don't learn other languages? So I'm like, well, probably the same reason people that can see don't learn Braille. That's probably why. And I got news for you, braille would be more practical.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Because you might go blind one day, right? That could happen. But you're not going to go Mexican, chances are. Very unlikely. We got Norway. Anybody else from some place that's interesting? Pardon? Israel?
Starting point is 00:22:23 How are the French people over here? Pardon? Are you? You don't sound it. No French person would say oui oui. Pardon? You're not from France. No, I am. Are you really? Prove it.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Bonjour. That doesn't prove anything. Ça va bien. T'es avec qui? T'es avec ta meuf? Ouais. C'est qui? C'est elle? C'est elle. Elle est bonne?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Elle est bonne. Okay. All right. He's French already. He's not fucking around. French people can't speak English properly. Je sais. Are you really French? Oui. That accent doesn't seem French to me. French people can't speak English properly. Are you really French? That accent doesn't seem French to me. Oh, you want me to speak like that? Yeah, I would prefer that you speak like...
Starting point is 00:23:15 I would prefer that you speak like... I would prefer that you speak like that. French people speak English, they... French people speak English, they... French people speak English, they don't do it right, because they're translating it directly from their language into our language. You can't translate a language word for word.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You know what French people say shit like, I've been here since five minutes. Or I will see you when I will be there. And you know what French people say too? They say like, I'm coming in America next week. Instead of coming to America, they'll say coming in America.
Starting point is 00:23:53 They get the preposition confused. Because one time I was in Paris, somebody said to me, when did you come in France? I said, I haven't yet, to be honest. Maybe when I get to the hotel if they have Wi-Fi. I think what an odd people they are
Starting point is 00:24:13 to ask if I've just blown a load in their country and I don't even know you. Did you guys watch the Winter Olympics this year? That's so cheap Russia. You guys watch the Winter Olympics this year? That's so cheap Russia. You know, the Summer Olympics is always a place you've heard of. Like Rome or London, right? The Winter Olympics, it's like, who's got a mountain? They're just looking for any place with a
Starting point is 00:24:36 mountain. Yeah, so cheap Russia. You got a mountain? Yes, we have mountains, but rebel forces are threatening to attack cities. All right, but you have a mountain, all right? We need that mountain. Our main sport in the United States is football and baseball and basketball. We don't care about bobsledding and biathlon. The Super Bowl this year, that's our biggest sporting event. I was on a plane this year during the Super Bowl. This is how important the Super Bowl is. I was on a plane during the Super Bowl, and the pilot would announce the score. This is how important the Super Bowl is. I was on a plane during the Super Bowl, and the pilot would announce the score. That's how important the Super Bowl is, that the pilot is announcing the score. Now, I don't
Starting point is 00:25:10 know if other countries have sporting events that are that important. Like, if you're on Iberia Airlines in Spain, and the pilot comes on and says, Senores, senores, this is your captain speaking. The bull won the fight. The final score, bull alive. Bull fighter is not looking good. I will keep you posted before landing on his condition.
Starting point is 00:25:40 You guys are great. That's it for me. Back to your host, Artie Fuqua, and more show after these words. Here he is me Back to your host Artie Fuqua And more show After these words Here he is now Thank you Artie Dean Nutterman
Starting point is 00:25:51 Dean Nutterman Are you familiar With I Love Lucy Of course Yeah so you like Ricky Ricardo Here you are This guy
Starting point is 00:25:59 Who's English Is approximative And where is he from He was from Cuba Okay Desi Arnaz. And he was a musician. And he had a sitcom.
Starting point is 00:26:08 So I'm thinking that could be you. You could be like the funny French guy with the wife that always makes fun of the way you talk. Yeah. With the quirky next door neighbor who was always trying to get on the show. That would be great. That would be great. What part should I give him? To give me?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah. Well, you know, any part that's a nice, meaty part. You want a girlfriend in the... No, I don't care about that. Oh, you don't care. Okay. No, look, you do what you want to do. He's already...
Starting point is 00:26:36 Gad's been very good to me. He put me in his documentary that he did in France. Yeah. And so I wouldn't say I'm famous in France, but every now and again, somebody says, hey, you were in the GAD documentary. So show some... I've not gotten laid from it yet,
Starting point is 00:26:50 but I almost did. Why limit that to the documentary, Dan? Yes, well, that's a good one. You didn't come in Paris, you mean. I didn't come in France. Come in France. That's his joke. That's my joke.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Everyone knows his joke. You have people that you meet in life who are, almost everybody falls into a category. Then you have a guy like Dan Natterman who is really unique. You see him one time and you will remember that guy. Oh, yeah. For better or worse. So you just give him some good lines to read
Starting point is 00:27:22 and he is going to be great in anything because giving something distinction is a huge challenge in any artistic enterprise. You should be in a Woody Allen movie. Absolutely. You would be perfect. If you talk to Woody, you wouldn't even have to play. I don't even give a fuck. Dan, either this man is interested in you or he wants to go on the radio.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Well, Harrison, we just have a few more minutes. Harrison Greenbaum is here. So you just said fuck. Are we allowed to say fuck on the radio? Yeah, so this is Saturday night radio. Get it out of your system, guys. But fuck does not come naturally to Gad. He's not at that level in English.
Starting point is 00:27:58 If somebody punches him in the stomach, he doesn't say fuck. He says putain. No, I do the bleep. He goes bleep. Gad is very fun for the whole family in France, and I don't say that. I says putain. No, I do the bleep. He goes bleep. Gad is very fun for the whole family in France and I don't say that.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I say that with all due respect. I like that. I like that. You don't rely. He's not dirty at all. No, because I talk about things that I know. So sex, I have no...
Starting point is 00:28:19 He's a virgin, believe it or not. Yeah, virgin. No, I, you know, it's observational. How do you say this? Observational. Every time you ask me for a word in English, it's the same word.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It just pronounces different. You see this? I don't mind people who are dirty at all, of course. I don't mind. But I have the most respect for the comedians who can do it clean. I would say I have respect for somebody who's funny, whether they're dirty or clean. But I do think being funny clean is an extra hurdle, but
Starting point is 00:28:47 I certainly don't condemn. I have more than a few dirty jokes. Is French comedy in general more clean than American? No. You have both. You have specialists, right? You have guys who know how to do it. But you don't have any dirty...
Starting point is 00:29:03 I have a lot of innuendo what is this innuendo innuendo means I'm implying things I'm insinuating yeah you can't get through
Starting point is 00:29:11 an American comedy act without someone cursing usually yeah you can I mean yeah if you have super clean comics but the average act Tom Papa
Starting point is 00:29:18 Tom Papa doesn't Gary Seinfeld they're not at all Gary's very clean very clean super clean Bill Cosby was clean we thought doesn't, Jerry Seinfeld, they're not at all. Jerry's very clean. Very clean. Super clean. Bill Cosby was clean, we thought,
Starting point is 00:29:28 but he was, you know. And you're continuing that tradition in English or in English, are you going to be, are you going to let yourself go a little bit
Starting point is 00:29:35 and maybe explore some areas that you don't explore in France? This is a good question because when you perform in another language, you feel more free. Even if you're, not only the language, your mind, you know? Your vision, your perspective become you to always.
Starting point is 00:29:52 How do you say to always? To dare. To dare. You dare. You go to some places you don't go in your original mother tongue. I'm getting tired of the language. Well, you know, when I speak French, I feel like another person. There's like a barrier, you know, because it's a weird thing.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Like, I can talk to chicks in French. It's almost like I'm texting them because it's not as direct. So if I say, if I meet a woman and talk in French, I'm more at ease saying things, a little more adventurous, shall we say. I don't know what it's like to be extremely famous, but I imagine there is a psychology associated with it, and it probably wears you down over time. But is there something to the fact that's also liberating about being somewhere where you're not famous?
Starting point is 00:30:40 When you're famous, I imagine you can't even risk saying something about a certain because you don't know to be in a paper tomorrow so even bother totally agree you can kind of like get lulled as I am in America let me and and and no that feels good you got spies every there's French people all over the place you know it's very interesting because in the beginning some French journalists would come to my show in America and say oh he said that about France oh he said that about but then I mean they're they forgot they don't but it's true what you, I mean, they forgot. They don't... But it's true what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:31:06 You go, you dare, you don't care. All right. And no, it's not a big deal if I say something about... I had very bad jokes that bombed, totally bombed. Nobody talks about it. I just don't do it the day after. That's it. But in France, whoa, this is a whole...
Starting point is 00:31:24 You know, they want to talk about it and the press and the TV and the journal. So here, yeah, I'm free. Speaking of fame, I mean, in your act you talk about how you come to America and in France you're not anonymous. If you come to America you're anonymous. It's great because you can just walk the streets.
Starting point is 00:31:39 But then after a few days it's starting to piss you off. No one knows who I am. Now how much of that joke is real and how much of it is just to be funny? I mean, do you really get pissed off? I think it's a funny joke for the French, not for the Americans. They don't know what I'm talking about. But the funny thing is when I am with, like, the story that I tell in my show is true, that I was in a bar and I went to talk to a very beautiful American girl in L.A.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And she basically, how do you say this? beautiful American girl in L.A. and she basically... How do you say this? How do you fuck off? No, almost. And then a group of French guys, you know, walked in the bar and they asked me for pictures and blah, blah, and autographs and she came back to me. Of course.
Starting point is 00:32:18 She was like, who the fuck are you? Changed her tune. And, you know, and then, you know, the end of the story. You kicked her Change the tune. And you know, and you know, and then you know the end of the story. You kicked it to the curb. But he also has a funny joke about how he can,
Starting point is 00:32:31 when he's in America, he takes the opportunity to buy, to go to the drugstore because, you know, in France, you can't go
Starting point is 00:32:39 to the drugstore and buy things that people will say. Yeah, I don't do this joke anymore. By the way, I should, yeah, yeah, I should do this joke. No, I don't do this joke anymore. By the way, I should do this joke.
Starting point is 00:32:47 No, I don't do it anymore. You know, I've worked on this, and I realized that all the jokes that are related to the fame, it's fun for the French audience, but the Americans, they don't relate. They don't understand what he's saying. Ray Romano had some kind of joke about trying to buy porn in a hotel when he was famous and he couldn't buy it as Ray Romano. I don't remember the joke.
Starting point is 00:33:06 It's a similar thing. Well, how do famous people get it? I don't know if you're on prescription medication, but how do famous people get their antidepressants or their Valtrex? Let me tell you something. One day in Paris, I was sick. I went to the pharmacy and I got some antibiotic. Antibiotic? Antibiotic.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Antibiotic. Antibiotic. Yeah. And so he put everything in the bag. I said, okay, how much do I want to pay? And the guy said, no, this is on me. This is the worst present. You don't want to hear that.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I don't want to hear that. Let me pay my shit because I don't want to hear that. Let me pay my shit because I don't want to get this offer. No, I don't want. We have with us, by the way, just stopped by Harrison Greenbaum, long time comedy seller alumni. And I
Starting point is 00:33:58 invited you because I know that you and Gad have a special relationship. Yeah, we live together. Very special. We cuddle. Same room, same, right? Oh, yeah. Same room, same apartment. We alternate top and bottom. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Now I don't believe it. No. I know that Harrison's not alternating. No, Harrison is, you know, Harrison is a great comedian. We met when I was shooting the documentary, like Dan. And since then, he, since then, we worked together. We tried to find things. He helps me to find some jokes.
Starting point is 00:34:31 He opens for me at Joe's Pub and other places. Voilà. Yeah. Now, Gad, I don't know if you... Have you noticed anything interesting about Harrison? Oh, many things I noticed about Harrison. He's a magician. He seems quite European, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:34:49 But he's enthusiastic, even though he's Ashkenaz, you know? You or not. That's my problem, you know? He's smiling, he's happy. He has a joie de vivre. He has a joie de vivre. That's a French phrase I know. There's no joie de vivre.
Starting point is 00:35:04 No. Not a man. Joie de mort. Joie de vivre. He has a joie de vivre. That's a French phrase I know. There's no joie de vivre. No. Not a man. There's joie de mort. Joie de mort. Oh. Absolutely. Well, there's joie de sleep. So can I just ask a question?
Starting point is 00:35:14 I enjoy it. Because I can't help it. I want to ask it. I know it's cliche and trite, but I never really heard it answered to my satisfaction. Is Jerry Lewis actually some kind of hero in France? He was. He is. He was.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Of course. Why? Yes, of course. Hero. He is the most popular comedian, comedic actor of all time for French people. Because he's not here.
Starting point is 00:35:39 What do you mean he's not here? He's very famous here. No, he's not. His popularity did not continue and he's considered here? He's very famous here. No, he's not. His popularity did not continue, and he's considered to be kind of... Cheesy. Cheesy, yeah. Yeah, no, it's because it's very simple to understand that.
Starting point is 00:35:54 It's all about the physicality and the crazy things that he used to do. So that's why Mr. Bean also was super famous in France, you know, because they had all the gesture and the facial things, and this is why, you know? because they had all the gesture and the facial things and this is why, you know. And Americans don't like that anymore, is that it? I don't know. I don't want to speak for them.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Also, they're speaking in English, but if the French audience is watching it, they can get what he's saying better because of all the physicality. This is why you guys know Louis de Funès. Louis de Funès. No, no, they don't know Louis de Funès. What do you mean? Americans? Nobody knows him. I mean, they don't know anything about others. Very little.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Very little. No. Ask them one French actor. They don't know. He's Canadian. Is he French? Brigitte Bardot. Brigitte Bardot.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Brigitte Bardot. And Jean. And Jean Reno. Jean Reno. And then who plays Amelie? Audrey Tatu. by the way. Audrey Tattoo. Gad had a love scene with her in a movie.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Oh, yeah. There you go. Sophie Marceau. Did you have a love scene with her? Sophie Marceau? Yeah. Yeah. And Marion Cotillard.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Wait, wait, wait. What kind of love scene? Love scene. Naked? Yeah. How does that work? Are you actually naked? No.
Starting point is 00:37:01 No, unfortunately. I would love it. I would have loved, but no. No. There, unfortunately. I would love it. I would have loved, but no. No, there's something. They strap your... Je n'en ai tout. Je n'en ai tout. I took a risk.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I took a chance. Did it come out right? Je n'en ai tout. That's so cute. Le petit pénis. Le petit pénis. Le petit pénis. Yeah, the penis. Le petit penis. Le petit penis. Welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:37:29 It's a very fine show. No, you need to put something, you know? And is it arousing, the shoot a love scene? I would imagine it's pretty uncomfortable. It depends. I mean, it depends. You know, I was supposed to kiss Sophie Marceau, and I was pretending to kiss Sophie Marceau,
Starting point is 00:37:50 and I was pretending to, like, trip on the stairs, you know, to redo it again and again and again because it was so beautiful. It's a great job, right? You have Sophie Marceau in your arms, and you have to kiss her seven, eight, nine times. This is a great job, and you get paid for this. You get paid for that, huh? Yeah. There's a great movie. I didn't see the movie he's referring to, but Or De Prix, or Priceless is the great job, and you get paid for this. You get paid for that, huh? Yeah. There's a great movie. I didn't see the movie he's referring to,
Starting point is 00:38:05 but Or De Prix, or Priceless is the American title. With him in Audrey Tattoo plays a prostitute that Gad, well, the character of Gad in the movie is trying to afford her, but he can't, and comedy ensues, and Audrey Tattoo looks phenomenal and very sexy in this film. I want to just clarify something
Starting point is 00:38:28 in my mind because it made me think what Harrison just said. So if Harrison is correct that the reason is because of the language, does that mean that the physical
Starting point is 00:38:35 gesturing comedy by French comedians is less popular in France or is this just a genre that they still, by the way, just want to make it clear,
Starting point is 00:38:44 I adore that brand of comedy. We still play Chaplin here. I know. Because we regard him and my father, too, as the... And you see? No sound, right? No sound. Although you know that stand-up comedians, many look down their nose
Starting point is 00:38:59 at comedy that's not observational. Literally, they don't respect... You know this expression, look down their nose? No, but I understand. They're arrogant about it. They don't respect physical comedy. Even when it's mixed in with the pathos and the genius of Chaplin
Starting point is 00:39:15 in the storyline, they still don't respect it. You don't throw pathos at the guys. Pathos is probably a similar word in Fresno. I don't even know what it means. It's a Latin word. I don't even know what it means in English. But we've been here a half hour, so, Gad, your English is starting to, probably now you're getting fatigued.
Starting point is 00:39:31 No, I'm going to switch to French. That's it. Okay. Can I get another French alcohol? No, it's a warm-up. It's a warm-up for my show tonight. Are you opening the show tonight? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:40 So maybe you're going to do a longer set. I opened for Gad the other day. It's very tough because they're all there. They're there for him. Well, maybe I just stink. But I had a tough time the other night. You just don't seem to be happy to be there. And then they look at you and they say, why?
Starting point is 00:39:59 I couldn't be happy. They gave us this guy we don't know. It's an opener. We're going to be nice. So at least he should be nice with us. I was perfectly nice. Apparently not, Dan. No, Matthew.
Starting point is 00:40:11 But they're there because you're still bringing the audience in, and there's a lot of commotion. So, Dan, when you hear him say something, and he's being obviously pretty forthright, pretty blunt with you. Yeah. What goes through your head? Your immediate action is to be defensive. Obviously, that's human.
Starting point is 00:40:29 But then at some point, you have to say to yourself, wait a second, he's my friend. He's a fan of mine. He couldn't be telling me this unless he really believed it. He's not an opinion I can dismiss because he's obviously accomplished. Maybe he's right. No, but he's not in this particular case.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I'm a little bit exaggerating. He misunderstands me. For some reason, he perceives me as... Him and all the members of the audience, apparently. No, because it's a tough room to open. Because they're still filing in. Yeah, but Harrison could maybe tell us about it. Sometimes it's very hard, right?
Starting point is 00:41:02 Sometimes it's hard. Sometimes it's easy. It depends on, I think, the ratio of English speakers to non-English speakers. The more English speakers you have, the more... Because Boston felt like there were a lot more just native English speakers. Where sometimes there's an audience where I say,
Starting point is 00:41:15 who here speaks English as a first language? You get three hands. So that's going to be a harder one because they're French speakers first and English speakers second. What I'm getting at is that God has identified something in Dan, which we all recognize as Dan Aderman fans, and he refuses to look it in the eye. If Dan does it again, you should wear a scarf that will enamor you with the crowd. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Well, that could be. That could be. Or a beret. Well, what exactly are you referring to that he is hit upon? I think that when you get and I don't want to dominate anybody cut in
Starting point is 00:41:48 I think that when you are not totally in your comfort zone which with you is a very very sweet spot narrow sweet spot like really
Starting point is 00:41:56 like you know that you get a little flustered and it will come and it comes across maybe as being aloof or not friendly or whatever
Starting point is 00:42:04 which is not actually you're not feeling unfriendly it's just nerves apparently but you do lose something I've seen it in you and I don't know how you can overcome it but it has to
Starting point is 00:42:15 at some point start with acknowledging it if you could ever overcome it and some people you know it's human you may not be able to overcome it that's another show
Starting point is 00:42:21 we just started right now right it's another show La Psychologie La Psychologie. Like, psychology, you've done that. But I think it's right. It's called analysis.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I'm trying to come up with a French word for sourpuss. No, it's not sourpuss, but go ahead, go ahead, God, whatever you're going to say. I think just it's very interesting to hear that, and I think only real friends
Starting point is 00:42:37 can talk about it. Absolutely. And in private. On the radio with all the listeners. Exactly. You know, this is a particularly tough time for me because we are at the beginning of 2016,
Starting point is 00:42:50 and the beginning of the year is always particularly difficult for me because I have such expectations going into the new year, like this is going to be my year. And then after a few weeks, I'm like, oh, this is just going to be as shitty as last year. You know what I mean? You put a lot of pressure on yourself at the beginning of the year. And so January tends to be a difficult month for me.
Starting point is 00:43:07 What about April? April is usually pretty good. April things start to get better around July. Jack season? So I'll see you. Book him in April. And also I'm in a very angsty state right now in general. Because?
Starting point is 00:43:19 Because I'm just, you know, because I'm always in an angst-ridden state, but, you know, I'm getting older and I'm starting to panic about my future. You should translate. He said you should accept what you have and you have friendship. Oh, there you go. It's a nice sentiment day. Yeah, very nice. Although I just got a W-9 from another comedy club.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I won't mention its name. And they put as the income they paid me this year over a million dollars. So I'm in the middle of trying to get them to correct that. You're a tax shelter. Right, exactly. I'm like, what? You didn't pay me one point.
Starting point is 00:44:03 They barely paid me $1, let alone 1.1 million dollars By the way, he's not that happy a guy Why are you lashing out at him? I'm just saying, it's not an insult Like many great people, like many great artists No, this happened to me, what Harrison just said Happened to me in France But the opposite
Starting point is 00:44:23 Oh no, well that's good, though. They were supposed to give me one million. They gave me 1,000. Maybe they were planning on sending you 1,000 checks. I was mad. Right. No, but Dan, I mean, maybe you prefer to talk about it in private, but, you know, when you come to the room, the green room,
Starting point is 00:44:43 I'm happy to see you, but if you're nervous, that's something. But sometimes I want to say, I'm happy to see you. And when I touch him, he gets very embarrassed, you know, anxious. When I touch him, because Sephardic people from Morocco, they like to touch, so he doesn't like to kiss. Then I give him
Starting point is 00:45:00 a nice hug, little kiss, you know. But the French have a thing, they kiss guys, kiss guys in France and they kiss twice they do the cheek to cheek yeah have you seen that that YouTube viral video
Starting point is 00:45:11 of that fat black woman talking on the news about a thing like I just I don't know if you've seen it it's like
Starting point is 00:45:17 it's a horrible woman uh huh and I just feel like when you're judging Ashkenazi Jews by Dan Natterman, I don't think it's fair
Starting point is 00:45:27 to use him as the poster boy for the traits of Ashkenazi. You can hug me and I don't even know you very well. Hug away. I don't mind being hugged. I'm a big hugger. I put my hand on Dan like and you can feel him tense immediately. He doesn't like it. Is it something from childhood?
Starting point is 00:45:44 But you know what, when you shake... Well, I mean, nothing. Sure, my uncle used to fuck me in the ass, but other than that... Other than that, I don't... No, I don't think it's related to... It's connected to that, no. It's Ashkenaz.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Let me ask you this question. Yes, Gad, not God. Gad. Gad is... Yeah, in French, God, not God. Gad. Gad. Gad. Gad is, yeah. In French, God is something else. God means a dildo. Ah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Well, that's a big difference. Yeah. No, some people believe in dildo. One you use to fuck in the ass and the other is God. Why fuck in the ass? This is, you know the joke. I broke my teeth. What...
Starting point is 00:46:28 You know, this is for Dan again, but you can get real perspective on it. This is his show. This is all about you today. What's wrong? But this is kind of... It will be about you too. The question will be about...
Starting point is 00:46:37 Will be an insight into both of you. Yeah, okay. If you were never to have become famous as you are now, if you were only to achieve Dan Natterman level success in France, do you think you'd be happier, more unhappy? Okay, to be honest with you. If I had the power, the comedic power, the writings,
Starting point is 00:46:59 and the strong jokes that he has, if I had the same, I would be the happiest man in the world. Look at that. Even without the fame. Without the fame. I don't care. I believe you. He's sharp.
Starting point is 00:47:09 He's very smart, brilliant. Great jokes. Always the same jokes, but very strong. Very strong. Well, no, I do have some new jokes. But I would prefer to have less, I mean, one button jokes. How do you say this? Less good jokes. Less new jokes. But I would prefer to have less, I mean, one button jokes. How do you say this? Less good jokes.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Less good jokes. And be, you know, fun, happy, eating kebab and hanging out. Because my problem with Dan is that he dismisses everything
Starting point is 00:47:35 unless he's super famous. No, no, not at all. Not at all. When we all know perfectly well, he can become a household name and he would still be miserable.
Starting point is 00:47:43 It has nothing to do with the fame. I just want to make enough money. Okay, now let do with the fame. I just want to make enough money. Okay, now let me give you, no, I want to give you this example. I want to make enough money. When we first met, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Go ahead. This is the debate. This is the presidential. No, when we first met, we were talking, blah, blah, blah, and Dan, I Googled him and I saw him on Letterman. He was doing a set.
Starting point is 00:48:01 He was doing a bit on Letterman. Letterman for us, for everyone, is a money man. It's crazy. So I said to Dan, wow was doing a bit on Letterman. Letterman for us, for everyone, is a monument. It's crazy. So I said to Dan, wow, I saw you on Letterman. And he said, well, I don't know. I said, don't. Same suit every time.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Don't. Don't. Ne m'enlève pas mon plaisir à moi. Don't harsh my mellow. No. Don't piss on my parade. Yeah. I mean, it's my pleasure. I was on my parade. Yeah. It's my pleasure.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I was happy to see you there. It's like when you do a good set and I say, that was great. They say, oh no, I don't know. Bye bye.
Starting point is 00:48:33 It's like if you have sex with a girl and she said, that was great. That's never happened. What's that like? Is that incorrect? We're in the realm of fantasy.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I don't want to get too much into my psychology because that's not why we're here I guess we're always here for that let's talk about Harrison and his sexual preference yeah you want any more on Dan? in my own defense
Starting point is 00:48:57 all I really want is to have enough money that I don't have to do certain gigs that I really don't like doing like going to comedy clubs on the road I have an idea, but I'm not sure you're going to accept. What about you sell me all your crazy jokes for a big amount of money? I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:49:14 And then you go on vacation, you have fun, you hang out. You take the whole act. I'll give you the act. I'll give you my act. And the accent. You give me, I'll give you the whole act,
Starting point is 00:49:24 and I'll throw in... It comes with the accent. You give me, I'll give you the whole act. I'll give you, and I'll throw in. It comes with the accent. It comes with the voice. I'll throw in. But only for his jokes. Like the guy would be talking normally like this. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:32 I was like, how big is my mouth? What about this? You would make a lot of money. I give you my act in English. Yeah. Okay. You get the,
Starting point is 00:49:41 you get the act. You get the, the, the, the can opener. What? And a set of steak knives for $2 million. Because sometimes he helps me. You know, he gives me jokes. He's a great writer.
Starting point is 00:49:56 He's a great writer, but he doesn't give me the best jokes. You know, he takes the time. You think he holds back? Yeah, of course. Is that true, Dan? No, it's not true. Harrison is giving the best. He's doing his best.
Starting point is 00:50:07 He's happy. I'm doing good. It's all about Harrison. No. I mean, what about this? You get a lot of money. You go on vacation with the girl. You don't, you know, every day and the cellar and this.
Starting point is 00:50:20 You spend the three most beautiful months of your life. I would only do it. You want my act, my whole act? No, give me like 10 jokes of your act. Yeah, but if it's my act, these are my good jokes. I need a lot of money. I need like retirement money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Like a million dollars. Two million, two million. No, you said a million. I'm at a million euros. Okay. I give you one million. Euro. Unless if you prove me that you're going to make a million euros. Okay. I give you one million. Euro. Unless if you prove me that you're going to make one million dollars if you don't sell that to me.
Starting point is 00:50:52 That's a Sephardic talking. That's an interesting deal. I don't have that proof. Okay. Your mother can maybe tell me. Okay. I don't know what he means by that. Harrison.
Starting point is 00:51:02 So do you tell your jokes about the sexual ambiguity and everything? I do the whole act. I mean, I have a chunk now about France and sort of me connecting to the French audience as an American, but otherwise the same. For the people who don't know Harrison, Harrison is a great comedian. Went to Harvard, by the way.
Starting point is 00:51:20 But he appears, I don't know if you can say things like this anymore, but he appears to be homosexual to somebody who, you know. To the naked eye. To the naked eye. To the what? Better than saying with a microscope. Oh, he's only gay under a microscope. And honestly, to be honest, if you had a gun to my head,
Starting point is 00:51:42 I would have to say. I brought lady friends to this table. I don't buy it. I believe he's gay. As a matter of fact... Oh, yeah? Seriously? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I'm more confident. I know that Harrison's gay, and I'm pretty sure my kids are mine. That's how confident I am. And I'm pretty sure Harrison is not my son. I'm pretty sure Harrison's not my son. You can't split the difference at bi, even? Full-on gay. I don't... Full-on... Or whatever. I'm not sure Harrison is not my son. I'm pretty sure Harrison is not my son. You can't split the difference at bi even? Full on gay. Full on or whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I'm not sure. Those are different. I'm not sure what bi means. Bi would mean I'd be into guys and girls. But I'll give you at least, I'm just saying, I think sexual contact with a man is in your repertoire. And I will not believe that it's not. Repertoire is a French word. I can't believe that.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Just so you know. Well, no, but the reason I split hairs. Oh, we're talking very private here. But the reason I split hairs on it is the bi gay thing is bi would suggest,
Starting point is 00:52:34 like gay would suggest I have zero desire to have sex with women ever. Bi would say I have both. So I think when you say gay, you're implying that I have no sexual desire
Starting point is 00:52:42 for women. Are you copying to bi right now? I'm not, but I'm saying the gay thing. It sounds an awful lot like you're admitting to bi. No, but gay is way easier to demolish than bi. Because it's different proofs, right? Well, thank you for helping me with my case. Okay, bi.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I'm sure Harrison is bi. Now what do you got? Different proofs. No, but that's at least easier. All right. I think you walked into a trap there with that. I don't think so. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:03 At least we were agreeing that I'm attracted to women. The question is if I'm also attracted to men now, which is a separate question than if I'm attracted to one or the other. That's why I split hairs on it. Would you shut up? Are you attracted to men or not? I'm not. I lied.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Go ahead. I'm going to hear you. It's nice to be here, guys. It's nice to be on stage. I love being on stage. I did a lot of musical theater when I was in high school and college, so my nickname was Faggot. It was good times. It was good times. If you're still laughing, you're perpetuating the hate crime, so good work everybody. People think I'm gay. All right, good reaction.
Starting point is 00:53:47 It's weird, right? Because when people think you're gay, there's no proving that you're straight, right? You know what I'm talking about. Sweater, right? Like, if you walked in on me and I was just making out with a dude, don't get excited,
Starting point is 00:54:00 but if I was just making out with a dude, you'd walk in and be like, he is definitely gay, and that's reasonable. But you walk in on me, was just making out with a dude you'd walk in like he is definitely gay and that's reasonable but you walk in on me I'm making out with a woman you'd be like he's fooling himself and that's not that it doesn't have its advantages though you know what I mean like nobody asked me to donate blood so that's good HIV joke high five five, everybody. We did it. We did it. Actually, V is the Roman numeral four or five, so HIV is a high five, if you pronounce it correctly.
Starting point is 00:54:36 It's an ancient languages joke, everybody. This comedy train is going express. I am. I am. I'm straight, I think. I don't know. Let's go with it. I don't know. I've never had sex with, I think. I don't know, let's go with it. I... I don't know, I've never had sex with a man, so I don't know, you know?
Starting point is 00:54:50 Like, maybe I'd like it, you know? Maybe I'd love it. I didn't mean to look evil the times I said that. But you know the saying, right? The dick fits. It's not a saying it always does
Starting point is 00:55:07 you use that in your act yeah oh yeah that's why I feel I have a green light to talk about and what makes you think I'm gay I don't think that you're gay
Starting point is 00:55:21 we never said that you think everyone is gay so what makes you think I'm gay I don't think why are you saying this I don't think I you're gay. We never said that. You think everyone is gay. So what makes you think I'm gay? I don't think. Why are you saying this? I don't think. I just. You could be gay.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Now you're trapped. No, but I. Because I don't believe that. He looks like Jerry. Just the eyes like this. No? Yeah. You look like Paul Newman.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Oh, really? With the eyes, yeah. With this. I look like Eddie Murphy. I feel like this personality type exists in nature throughout cultures, and it's representative of whatever it is. I mean, I didn't make the rules. I'm not, you know, I'm not God Gad, but that's the way it is.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I'm no God Gad. I like it. Was there a question there? Well, I'm throwing the subject open to anybody who wants to address it or we can talk about something else I would like to hear
Starting point is 00:56:09 I feel like Mark Norman had the best we were on a different podcast and he said the reason I know Harrison's not gay is because if he was gay he would do it because it would move his career
Starting point is 00:56:17 forward faster on that oh yeah wow that is a good point right like it would be an advantage to be gay
Starting point is 00:56:22 and Jewish and Jewish the Jew not so much. Oh, really? Not in comedy, I feel like. Too many Jews in comedy. It doesn't get you ahead. Nobody's like, oh, you've got to book this guy.
Starting point is 00:56:32 He's a Jew. In France, the comics that I've met are overwhelmingly Muslim Arab. Is that correct? No. I would say not only Muslim Arabs. I would say North African, Jewish, and Muslims, but in the 80s, most of them were Algerians, Tunisians, and not a lot of Moroccans, Algerian, Tunisians, Muslims, and Jewish people.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Michel Boujna and Smaïn, and all those guys are from North Africa. Who was that first guy? Michel Boujna. Oh, he first guy? Michel Bouchneau. Oh, he's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't know him. See, that's interesting, though. Is that because they were sort of outsiders
Starting point is 00:57:11 so they had a better perspective? Yeah, I think so. I think that's typical of comedians in general. Because in America, the Jews were the outsiders and that's why they sort of... We have very few Arab comedians, although there are some. No, you have some. Well,ians, although there are some. No, you have some.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Well, yeah, we have Ahmed Ahmed. Maz Jobrani. Maz is actually, he's Persian, but he is Muslim, I believe. Dean of Adala. Dean was Christian. Dean was Italian when I met him, and then after 9-11, all of a sudden, he said, well, now I'm going to be Muslim because this is more interesting. So we're almost out of time.
Starting point is 00:57:48 I saw your Seinfeld thing, and for some reason it sticks in my mind that you said to Jerry something like, you know, whenever you meet another comedian, no matter where in the world it is, there's a connection between comedians. And I also remember he kind of, I guess it's the editing, he didn't address it, he didn't answer it, he just kind of let it hang there and moved on. Larry Miller has a similar quote, which is that we're all brothers in arms. But I was interested in that. What is it that you feel your connection with a comedian is? When you say this, I think about musicians also.
Starting point is 00:58:19 It's the same connection. It's very strong, more than actors, more than... I think it's similar to musicians. It's something that we feel very strong, more than actors, more than... I think it's similar to musicians. It's something that we feel very strong. I mean, real comedians who observe, who do like, analyze life, and really look at the world with the microscope. We're connected. We don't, you know, we don't need...
Starting point is 00:58:44 There's a very funny story with jerry first time we met he was in can at the festival he walked in a room he knew that he was gonna meet with me first time and we were like 12 people so he walked in the room and i swear i'm not making that up or something he pointed at me and said you're the funny guy I said what? I said you googled me or something before he said no I said
Starting point is 00:59:08 how do you know I'm the comedian there was like agents publicists actors he said you're the funny man
Starting point is 00:59:14 oh yeah that reminds me of a story I was on Conan with 50 Cent and I walked into a room full of black people and I said
Starting point is 00:59:21 which one is Fitty? I didn't know which one I had no idea you really said that? I didn't know which one. I had no idea. You really said that? I didn't know which one of Fitty was. Oh, you said that. I thought you said they said that.
Starting point is 00:59:29 So it's the opposite of what yours said. Yeah, it's the opposite. But it reminded me of it. When I was just starting out, somebody was like a friend of a friend of Larry Miller, who's an awesome comic. And somehow it got, basically I got an email saying, Larry, we'd be happy to talk to you. Here's his cell phone number. He's going to be driving on the road for like 45 minutes to an hour, so
Starting point is 00:59:45 if you call him, he can talk to you while he's on the road. So I give him a call. He had no idea who I was, and he just started talking. At one point, I was just like, why are you talking? Why would you be willing to talk to me? You don't know who I am. And he said, we're brothers in arms. We're all... And he was just giving you advice about comedy?
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yeah, he let me ask him any question I want. He's quite a political conservative. Did you know that? Yeah, but the whole point is that we were talking but it's about comedy which is cool I know but I know you usually don't like that so listen
Starting point is 01:00:10 so yeah Gad has to do a show yeah I'm going to Joe's Pub now how long are you playing there until June so let's go Dan
Starting point is 01:00:19 let's all go one night I'd love to see that show that'd be great yeah please we'll all go and then I'll get tickets we'll all go no no no we'll get you tickets no'll all go. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:00:25 We'll get you tickets. No, no, no. Can you give me a spot here? Well, I don't... Norm will give you a spot whenever you want. No, I want to ask you and you ask Norm.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Norm, can he have a spot? But don't tell him I asked you. First of all... No, but Doug, again, ask me for a spot. I don't know where the joke in this is, but we'd be honored
Starting point is 01:00:42 to have you perform here anytime you want. And you can sing here and play the balala, whatever that thing is you're smacking on. No, this is, we should hang out,
Starting point is 01:00:50 yeah, we should do the cajon and the percussion and the oud. I would love that. That's a great musician as well. We play here on Friday nights sometimes, but I don't bring my oud,
Starting point is 01:00:58 but maybe I will be right here in the olive tree. And I also play in the underground. Right in front of the screen. We have a band in the underground, but we played acoustically,
Starting point is 01:01:03 like very informal, which I kind of prefer, just here under the... So I bring the cajon, I bring the darabuka, and I play in the underground. Right over on the screen. We have a band in the underground, but we played acoustically, like very informal, which I kind of prefer. Just here under the... So I bring the cajon, I bring the darabuca, and I play with you guys. That would be so much fun. That would be so much fun.
Starting point is 01:01:10 That would be great. Thanks for having me. Harrison's dad plays harmonica, and he sat in with us one time. Yeah, that was an awesome night. Oh, that's awesome. And then a couple weeks later... Somebody told me, Harrison,
Starting point is 01:01:18 you played the fluter. No, I'm just kidding. That's a skin fruit. A couple weeks later, Dave Chappelle brought in Stevie Wonder's harmonica player, who I think is, is he French? He's a black guy, but I think he's French. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Anyway, amazing. We have black people in France. No, but I think he's an amazing harmonica player. You know what French people call black people? Black. They say, Oh, yeah. They use our word black.
Starting point is 01:01:41 What do Ashkenazi call them? I don't know what you're saying. Very interesting because we have some words in France that are like English words and they don't exist here. For example, if you were going to do an interview with a journalist on the phone, in French we call this a phoner. We call it too. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 01:02:01 Okay, so this is totally ruining my... I mean, I've never heard that phrase. Has he learned nothing about comedy, Harrison? Shut up, Harrison. Oh, yeah? Okay, so this is totally ruining my... I mean, I've never heard that phrase. Has he learned nothing about comedy, Harrison? Shut up, Harrison. Nothing, nothing, nothing. Anyway, you can follow Gad at... A boner. What is a boner?
Starting point is 01:02:14 That's an erection. Harrison knows that one. With a journalist. With a journalist. Oh, you have a boner with Miss... It's not the phoner. So that's phone shit. I'm going to let you do the sign-off, Dan.
Starting point is 01:02:24 He's got to go. First of all, you can follow Gad at Gad Elmal on Twitter. Yeah, on Twitter and Instagram. G-A-D-E-L-M-A-L-E-H. Yeah, this is very hard.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Instagram and at Joe's... Go to joespub.com, is it? Yes. For tickets and showtimes. And thank you for coming, Gad. Thanks a lot. That was great.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Noam, I would like to thank you guys because it gave me a great opportunity to have a real conversation with my friend Dan Natterman. My pleasure. I can only talk on radio. Good night, everybody.
Starting point is 01:02:54 At Harrison Greenhouse. At Harrison Comedy. At Harrison Comedy. Bye.

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