The Comedy Cellar: Live from the Table - Gad Elmaleh
Episode Date: February 11, 2016Gad Elmaleh...
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Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Comedy Cellar Show here on Sirius XM Channel 99, the comedy channel.
We're here with Krista Montella, of course, and I'm going to turn it over to my co-host, Mr. Dan Natterman, to introduce our guest of honor. Go ahead, Dan.
Well, thank you, Noam. This is a guest that I've been trying to book now for a while.
He's a very, very famous comedian in his native France, and he's now trying to take over America.
Gad Elmala, thank you for coming to the show.
Thanks for having me. Bonsoir. How are you?
Bonsoir.
Okay, bonsoir. Everybody knows what that means.
Yes.
That means good evening.
I meant good appetite.
We have a very good level of languages here tonight.
So Gad, as you may know, he's doing a show in New York
at Joe's Pub
from now until June. Yes.
Called Oh My Gad. I didn't
know that. That's wonderful. Yeah, he's doing it I think
twice a week? No, four
nights a week.
Yeah, until June. Exactly.
Okay, and this is
now why did you decide, this is a question
I know you've been asked 80 billion times.
Yeah, but my answer is better now.
Okay.
Okay, I've been practicing.
Why have you decided, because you have everything there is to have in France.
You have the cars, the girls, the money, everything.
Everything.
And all this.
I'm starting over.
By the way, this is no joke.
I mean, we've had French people come here that pretend to be famous. They all
say they're famous. Every French person that comes here
says they're famous. They're not. This guy is legit.
You can't walk down the street with this dude.
But you did the same thing when you came to France.
You pretended to be very famous
in America.
Come on. Yeah, well, yes.
And that's why I say you can't believe it.
At the cellar, you're like one
of the... I'm famous in this room.
He's a big fish in a small pond.
By the way, let me tell you something.
I'm very happy to be sitting here at this table
because I know this table is very, very important table.
This table is when you sit at this table,
that means like you're in the family, right?
Yes.
Comedians, that's the corner.
Normally, when you begin, you look at them from there, right?
Here, this is the, comment tu dis?
Sacre.
It's sacred.
Yeah, exactly.
So I'm sitting here.
But just for the show, then they're going to kick me out.
No, no, no.
You're always welcome here.
All right, good.
So why am I doing this in English?
To be really honest with you, I needed something very exciting, you know?
And I feel exactly like I felt 20 years ago
when I started stand-up in France,
obviously in France.
It's new. Everything is new.
You know, I'm nervous.
I don't know if the jokes are going to work.
The language is really a challenge.
So I just want to start over.
I'm not saying I have everything, as you mentioned, in France, but I want to, I don't know, I want to start over I'm not saying I have everything
as you mentioned
in France
but
I want to
I don't know
I want to be excited
can I ask you
can I ask you a question about that
is that okay Dan
can I ask a question
of course
yes
so
because it reminded me
of something that I heard once
where they asked Paul McCartney
why does he keep making records
you have everything
money
he says
I don't understand the question
he says I'm a musician
that's what I do
I make music why would they think that I would a musician. That's what I do. I make music.
Why would they think that I would stop doing this?
And I would imagine that when you achieve a certain level of fame,
the idea that you can get that energy of when you started again,
the challenge, the challenge again,
it's something to wake up for.
Yeah, the only difference between me and Paul McCartney is that I had to learn English. The challenge again is got to be... He's not just... It's something to wake up for.
Yeah, the only difference between me and Paul McCartney is that I had to learn English.
Didn't he write in French?
Michel...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a play monkey.
Son des mots qui vont très bien ensemble.
My Michel.
You're right.
But it's just like, you know when I come here and I see those very famous comedians,
they come and they test, they try out, they try new material.
Louis C.K. or Chris Rock or Jerry Seinfeld,
when they come to the cellar,
you can say the same thing.
What's matter, what's important, it's the work, you know?
It's not because you're famous that you don't try this anymore
and you don't challenge yourself and you don't work out
and you don't start over.
I'm starting over.
By the way, he's not just a famous comic. He's the fourth highest paid actor, I believe.
Yes.
I read that in French.
Fourth? Why fourth? That's-
That's what I read.
Yeah.
Need a new agent.
And he has an estimated net worth.
Dan.
I'm sorry.
No, no, go ahead. Go ahead.
I'm the one who's estimating, by the way.
And then we talk about yours and how much they give you here every night
is it
is it
is there also
and I just wanted this
is there also
something special
about making it
in America
as opposed to
any place else
in the world
why explain that
because
you know
we know that
as a cliche
as an idea
American dream
but this is what
I'm trying to do
right now
I've been dreaming of doing something in English and in America since I was a kid as an idea, an American dream, but this is what I'm trying to do right now.
I've been dreaming of doing something in English and in America since I was a kid,
even when I moved,
because I live in France, but I'm not French.
I was born in Morocco.
I've been living in France for 20 years,
but I was born and raised in Morocco.
And my dream was America, always.
Even when I was a kid, it was America.
Can you explain that for Americans?
I don't think Americans quite understand how America is viewed by the rest of the world in that sense.
That's why I think it's very funny when I hear that some people want to make America great again.
Because for us, it's already great.
It's still great.
But also by America, people mean like New York, LA, and Chicago.
No one's dreaming of going to North Dakota.
Maybe not a dream, but I've been to those places.
I've been to those places and I performed in Austin, Texas, and Dallas, and a lot of places.
And this is really challenging.
Have you been to Dallas?
Oh, yeah.
I did my show in Dallas and it was not easy.
And you noticed differences? Oh, yeah. I did my show in Dallas, and it was not easy. And you noticed differences?
Oh, a lot.
Yeah.
So in France, somehow America is simultaneously, correct me if I'm wrong.
Hated.
No, considered to be extremely unsophisticated in a certain way, like the ugly American type,
you know, like, and at the same time, kind of the gold standard for...
Well, for comedy, we are the gold standard.
Nobody can dispute it.
Well, for the arts in many ways. No. No? Not for the arts. For comedy. For the popular. Well, for comedy, we are the gold standard. Nobody can dispute it. Well, for the arts in many ways.
No.
No?
Not for the arts.
For comedy.
For the popular.
Well, what about...
Not for cinema?
Stand-up in New York
and movies in Hollywood.
And what about music?
Popular music?
Okay.
Well, they love our music, too.
I thought you were
talking about arts,
like the painters
and the writers.
No, not like Renaissance art. Like pop. No, I don't mean painting. I know nothing about painting about ours, like the painters and the writers.
No, not like Renaissance art.
No, I don't mean painting.
I know nothing about painting.
I meant like the stuff that... They love our music, too.
When I was in France the first time, I went to do a radio show there.
And who's sitting beside me but Adam Levine from Maroon 5.
You can actually see that on YouTube, by the way, me and Adam Levine on the radio together.
I did see that.
But the point is that they can't get enough American music, American comedy, and so it's
a love-hate.
Yeah, totally.
Because, yeah, there's this fascination and also this, oh, Americans, they're not really,
come on, you need the finesse.
They don't have the finesse.
It's a paradox.
That's an English word.
I didn't know they had that in France.
That's very funny because sometimes that happens with Americans.
I talk about someone, like I say, oh, I'm French.
I was with Marion Cotillard in Paris, and they say, oh, I don't know who she is.
And then I say, yeah, you know that movie La Vie en Rose?
Oh, you mean Marion Cotillard?
And he's correcting me, and he's talking about a French name.
And he's...
That's Americans.
They want to tell you how you should say something even in French.
That is American.
Gad, by the way, has a show tonight.
I'm amazed at his calmness.
Because I've done comedy in French, as you know, and as our listeners know.
And my whole day, I cannot, I'm so nervous.
And this is why I haven't gone to France and explored that option for myself
because the level of anxiety.
But, Gad, you have a show tonight at 9.
I have a show, but to tell you the truth, this is kind of a warm-up.
But you know what happens?
I don't know if this happens to you when you talk in French,
but when I speak in English for more than 30 minutes,
my brain is so tired.
My brain gets tired.
I can do shows in France for two hours,
jumping, screaming, do the jokes, everything.
I'm never tired.
As soon as I work the English stuff,
more than 30, 40 minutes,
my brain is going crazy.
And that doesn't get better as you spend more time in the States?
Yeah.
But he's hanging out with French people all the time.
No, what do you mean?
I'm hanging out with you.
And with...
Harrison Greenbaum.
Also.
He will be here later.
Yeah, and other great comedians.
Do you change your show, like your act at all, to do it in English?
Is there a lot of elements
that are changed? Oh yeah, I didn't translate my
French show. I wanted to do it
when I first came here, but
then I realized that, no, I had to
write stuff about me
coming to America, my perspective
on Americans. This is more,
this is interesting, you know.
I have a few jokes that I've translated to
English because they are
universal and they can be translated,
but otherwise, no. People want
to know about you. Your imitation of
Nicolas Sarkozy, great as it is,
would not kill here.
He does an imitation of Nicolas Sarkozy. I'm telling
you, you think you're in the room with Nicolas Sarkozy.
I mean, if you knew who he was.
Oh, that's a very
if you knew who he was and if we that's a very... If you knew who he was, and if we were not on radio.
This is a lot of conditions.
You know who he is.
But you don't know what he sounds like.
No, no.
All right, so it doesn't matter.
He does an imitation of me, by the way, Gad, speaking French.
I don't know if I want to put you on the spot, but...
Do you do an imitation of Dan?
I do an imitation of Dan.
Dan asks me to do something in French.
And now, I have people who say it's not worth it. British accent. Do you get any joy, whatever your misgivings about what you've accomplished in your life,
the most famous comedian in France is doing a Dan Natterman imitation on the radio.
Don't you understand that that's something?
Dan Natterman.
Dan Natterman.
You are somebody.
Hey, hey.
Hi, Dan Natterman.
Hey, hey.
How come I'm married?
Oh, no. My mom thinks you're gay. How come Uncle Daniel Not married Married Oh no Mom
My mom thinks you're gay
I think those are
Jokes yeah
There's a guy
From another
He's multi talented
He's a
Actor
He's also a musician
Which I know
Noam's a musician too
Oh I know that
I didn't know you were a musician
I know
Did you see
I sent you a video
Of him singing
Isn't she lovely
With some chick named Irma
Who's that
Oh she's great
singer
French singer
yeah we did that video
what do you play?
I play guitar
and mandolin
wow
just like Steve Martin
and I play the oud
oud?
yeah
are you serious?
yeah yeah
is there a picture
this man here
was
I'm pointing to a picture
was our
in my father's
his name was Ali Hafid
he was Moroccan
and he played the dungbag
and the oud
and he was like our best my father's best friend growing up Hafid he was Moroccan and he played the Dumbag and the Oud and he was like
our best
my father's best friend
growing up
and he was a genius
and I learned
he's Moroccan or Iranian?
Moroccan
Moroccan okay
do you know Anwar Abraham?
no
I don't know
I'm not familiar with
except like the
Oud is my
is a great instrument
you know how to play Oud?
yeah
wow
so one day we should hang out
and I want to listen to the Oud
I play Darbuka,
the little,
like the Dumbach, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Noam has a music club
around the corner,
which I'm sure you'd be welcome
to do a guest.
Well, he's friendly with George
and George is the, you know.
Well, you know,
do you really,
in your secret heart of hearts,
because I think this is the case
with a lot of comics.
You know what secret heart of?
Heart of hearts.
Okay.
Au fond de toi, ma'am.
Oh, I didn't know this one. Yeah, your heart of hearts. Heart of hearts. Yeah, heart of hearts. lot of comics. You know what's secret heart of? Heart of hearts. Okay. Au fond de toi, ma'am. Oh, I didn't know this one.
Yeah, your heart of hearts.
Heart of hearts.
Yeah, heart of hearts.
Heart of hearts.
Do you want to be
a musician
on some level
more than a comedian?
Oh, yeah.
I wanted to be a musician.
I wanted to be a jazz...
Jazz.
Do you say jazz or jazz?
Jazz.
Jazz.
Jazz, piano, pianist.
This is what I wanted.
I play piano. This is what I wanted. I play piano.
This is what I do.
But I'm not gifted and it didn't work enough.
So that's it.
I gave up.
But there's nothing that makes me more happy than listening to jazz,
watching and listening to people playing music.
This is my thing, really.
I think a lot of comedians are...
I don't know if you know this,
but I carry a pretty mean tune.
Although Noam swears I have no rhythm whatsoever.
I've never seen anything like it, Dan.
You have no rhythm.
I think you exaggerate my lack of rhythm.
No.
Carry a tune how?
Singing?
Singing, yes.
What do you mean?
I mean, I sing.
I sing in this show.
It's surprising because they say that every comedian,
they have this sense of rhythm and melody.
Well, Noam is, I was clapping.
He was singing some song, and I'm clapping,
and Noam just starts barking at me like an angry Kurd.
You know, we play here acoustically sometimes,
and we have like a tambourine or shaker, various percussion instruments.
Apparently, I can't clap.
And Dan is, and I do it with pain, but the guys are looking at me.
He's one of the only people
I've ever seen
who picks up a tambourine
and it's so disruptive.
I say, put it down.
Put it down.
Like it's like,
and I believe,
I mean, I believe,
like it's really like,
you know, you can't overcome it.
But I believe that it is
extreme self-consciousness.
Yeah, exactly.
Because rhythm is very primitive in a way,
and you have to surrender yourself to rhythm.
You told me I had no rhythm.
I'm telling you that only evening.
You don't display any sense of rhythm.
Well, I'm telling you, I was so despondent, Daddy.
You probably thought,
what does Dan care if he doesn't have rhythm?
He's a comic.
But I actually felt terrible.
Well, that's making me feel bad, Dan.
I'll be sure to lie to you, but I really...
I'll lie to you next time.
What about the cajon?
You know this instrument?
Yeah, that's it.
You sit on it.
I love it.
You mean the balls?
No, not the balls.
No, no, no, no, no.
Forget about the balls.
You sit on it.
It's like a box
and you tap this box with your hands.
You do percussion,
but you also do piano.
You know what?
You just gave me a great idea.
We sit on stools when we play.
I should have them make a stool with a cajon as the seat.
So that when you could actually just at any time.
Oh, you can take a stool and surround it.
Somehow just build it into a stool
so when you're sitting you can just like this at any time.
Yeah, good idea, yeah.
Yeah, that would be great.
And also a saxophone on the side.
One man band and a flute up here.
And a flute up here.
Gad, I also wanted to mention, Gad is so famous in France, by the way,
that when he comes to America to play,
he can fill a room up with French people that just happen to be in town.
Yeah, that's true.
We sold out Beacon Theater many times just with not French people,
but expats, French speakers.
When I say French speakers, it's, you know, Africans, North Africans, Switzerland, I don't know, Belgium, French, obviously.
And your show, now that you're doing it at Joe's Pub, which you do, you can go to joespub.com, I guess.
Yeah, exactly.
And to buy tickets.
But how many people in the audience are French fans and how many are new American fans?
In the beginning, I would say it was 90 expats and 10 Americans.
Now, I think we're getting almost half-half.
And it's great.
And my goal is to have 100% American crowd.
You attribute that to word of mouth, people enjoying it and telling their friends?
Yeah, the shows and being on TV.
We sold out because I went to those talk shows,
and it helped a lot, you know?
And also to me faire découvrir.
How do you say this?
To get your exposure.
Yeah, to the American crowds.
Because I do something that I never do in France.
After my show, I hang out,
and I talk to the audience.
I don't do this in France, because it's arenas. But here, it's great. my show, I hang out and I talk to the audience. I don't do this in France
because it's arenas.
But here,
it's great.
Small room,
I hang out like here
and I speak to Americans
and they say,
oh,
I heard you on NPR.
That's why I came.
Wow, really?
Nice.
So maybe the next one
is going to say
that he heard
that show on Sirius.
But why aren't you,
I hope so.
Of course.
How many people do you think?
Well, there could be...
We have no idea.
There's this one guy uptown.
This one guy with a tinfoil hat.
Yeah, with a flute.
Why aren't you coming to the...
I know you played here years ago,
and I think you did quite well of Memory Surge.
I don't know.
Not that well.
I think it's a very...
Well, you didn't blow the place up.
You didn't blow the place up, but you did pretty
well. And this is, you know,
an American... I think this would be a good place
for you to...
I would love, but this is the place that
gets me really nervous.
I get very nervous when I come here.
Very nervous. It's like an
exam, you know? Is that because of
the peers that are here watching you?
This and a lot of great comedians doing so well, used to it, very easy.
They do it every night for years.
But I want to do it, you know?
So I did it.
I went to a few clubs.
I want to come back and do it.
It's just a question of confidence.
And you do get half off
On kebabs
If you perform
That would be the only reason
That's the reason why
I did the comedians in cars getting coffee
For the breakfast
Nice breakfast
You and Jerry are very close friends
To the extent that Jerry has close friends He seems seems, you know, our sense of him.
Do you know Jerry at all?
No.
I mean, he chooses his friends.
You know, he's not as warm.
No, he has two.
One up, down, one downtown.
Yeah, okay.
I live downtown.
All right.
So he had you on Comedians in Cars.
Yes.
And Woody Allen put you in his movie.
Yes. What's your, you in his movie. Yes.
Is your goal to conquer?
You say you want to challenge,
and that's in and of itself enough reason to come here.
But what are your career goals in the United States?
I would like to do my stand-up show,
my one hour in English.
I'll do a special maybe for TV in one year or two years from now.
I'm working very hard on it.
This is my goal.
First French comedian on American TV with a one hour special.
This is my goal.
And what about potentially a sitcom?
Because I'm thinking he could be like the new Ricky Ricardo.
No, we're thinking about a show, maybe.
Maybe.
We're thinking with some writers and producers about a show.
My story, basically.
You know, a French guy comes to New York and goes out here with the comedians and the everyday life and perspective on this guy.
We're thinking about maybe doing something like that.
Gad, if you do that, if you do not write a part for Dan Natterman, I will lose respect.
I will call Joe's pub.
No, I'm just a great guy.
Because he didn't say if you do that, then you don't shoot here in the cellar.
Because he doesn't need that.
That's the confidence.
You see?
No, it's just not my nature.
I proposed to him the other day potentially as a writer.
Although he didn't necessarily leap on that.
Do you want me to remind you all the things that I've proposed to you
and you didn't respond?
Well, I told you.
A threesome with your wife, I don't do that.
But I'm kidding.
He's never been married.
Dan is a gem,
and I do not understand why somebody has not picked this gem up,
polished it off a little bit, and shown it.
Well, he just said because Dan constantly turns down anything.
No, I didn't turn down anything.
He mentioned a possibility.
You don't want to talk about this?
No, okay, go ahead.
But he talked about working together in France.
I have to get an hour together before we can do anything.
My problem with Dan, I'm sorry to interrupt,
but my problem with Dan is that
he is so
Ashkenaz and I am so
terrified. My problem,
I get excited,
enthusiasm. I play the tambourine
when there's good news. I sing.
We cook, I don't know,
chicken.
But this guy, you can tell him, oh, I'm doing the bacon.
Oh, good.
Good for you.
See you tomorrow.
What the fuck is going on?
I want to show some enthusiasm.
I love that he attributes it as an Ashkenazi characteristic.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, here in America, it's mostly Ashkenazi.
For our listeners that don't know, these are the two types of Jew.
The Ashkenazi and the Sephardic.
The Sephardics are more from North Africa.
The Sephardics are more Arabic people.
They're the laid-back, friendly people who know how to have a good time.
The Ashkenazis are the uptight people who don't know how to show any emotion.
With no rhythm.
That's what we are. No rhythm.
Quite funny, though. We're quite funny.
We're known to be funny. I do want to...
I think you
really were extra harsh on me with regard to the rhythm.
I was clapping in tune.
I don't understand. I'll have to videotape it.
Making his way to the stage,
we've recognized him from his appearances on Letterman.
Give it up for Dan Natterman!
Thank you so much. And another hand for Mr. Artie Fuqua.
Artie Fuqua, that's the one right over there.
Let him know that you appreciate him. How are you guys doing in the front row?
Pardon? Oh, good, he's saying. And that's your wife, sir? Girlfriend?
Where are you two from? You're not Americans.
So, welcome from... Are you understanding everything I'm saying?
I'm not talking too fast.
How many languages do you speak?
You go to Europe, but don't be that impressed.
That's what they do in Europe.
They speak different languages.
We're not dumb in America.
We just don't... We don't need to speak different languages. We're not dumb in America, we just don't need to speak other languages.
I got a friend, Juergen, who speaks four languages. He lives in Germany.
He said to me, Dan, how come you Americans don't learn other languages?
So I'm like, well, probably the same reason people that can see don't learn Braille.
That's probably why.
And I got news for you, braille would be more practical.
Because you might go blind one day, right?
That could happen.
But you're not going to go Mexican, chances are.
Very unlikely.
We got Norway.
Anybody else from some place that's interesting?
Pardon?
Israel?
How are the French people over here?
Pardon?
Are you? You don't sound it.
No French person would say oui oui.
Pardon?
You're not from France.
No, I am.
Are you really? Prove it.
Bonjour.
That doesn't prove anything.
Ça va bien.
T'es avec qui? T'es avec ta meuf?
Ouais.
C'est qui? C'est elle?
C'est elle.
Elle est bonne?
Elle est bonne.
Okay. All right. He's French already.
He's not fucking around.
French people can't speak English properly.
Je sais. Are you really French? Oui. That accent doesn't seem French to me. French people can't speak English properly.
Are you really French? That accent doesn't seem French to me.
Oh, you want me to speak like that?
Yeah, I would prefer that you speak like...
I would prefer that you speak like...
I would prefer that you speak like that.
French people speak English, they... French people speak English,
they... French people speak
English, they don't do it right, because they're translating
it directly from their
language into our language. You can't translate a language
word for word.
You know what French people say shit like, I've been here
since five minutes.
Or I will see
you when I will be there.
And you know what French people say too?
They say like, I'm coming in America next week.
Instead of coming to America,
they'll say coming in America.
They get the preposition confused.
Because one time I was in Paris,
somebody said to me,
when did you come in France?
I said, I haven't yet, to be honest.
Maybe when I get to the hotel
if they have Wi-Fi.
I think what an odd people they are
to ask if I've just blown a load
in their country
and I don't even know you.
Did you guys watch
the Winter Olympics this year?
That's so cheap Russia. You guys watch the Winter Olympics this year? That's so cheap Russia. You know,
the Summer Olympics is always a place you've heard of. Like Rome or London, right? The
Winter Olympics, it's like, who's got a mountain? They're just looking for any place with a
mountain. Yeah, so cheap Russia. You got a mountain? Yes, we have mountains, but rebel
forces are threatening to attack cities. All right, but you have a
mountain, all right? We need that mountain. Our main sport in the United States is football
and baseball and basketball. We don't care about bobsledding and biathlon. The Super
Bowl this year, that's our biggest sporting event. I was on a plane this year during the
Super Bowl. This is how important the Super Bowl is. I was on a plane during the Super
Bowl, and the pilot would announce the score. This is how important the Super Bowl is. I was on a plane during the Super Bowl, and the pilot would announce the score. That's
how important the Super Bowl is, that the pilot is announcing the score. Now, I don't
know if other countries have sporting events that are that important. Like, if you're on
Iberia Airlines in Spain, and the pilot comes on and says,
Senores, senores, this is your captain speaking. The bull won the fight.
The final score,
bull alive.
Bull fighter is not looking good.
I will keep you posted
before landing on his condition.
You guys are great.
That's it for me.
Back to your host, Artie Fuqua,
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Thank you Artie
Dean Nutterman
Dean Nutterman
Are you familiar
With I Love Lucy
Of course
Yeah so you like
Ricky Ricardo
Here you are
This guy
Who's English
Is approximative
And where is he from
He was from Cuba
Okay
Desi Arnaz.
And he was a musician.
And he had a sitcom.
So I'm thinking that could be you.
You could be like the funny French guy with the wife that always makes fun of the way you talk.
Yeah.
With the quirky next door neighbor who was always trying to get on the show.
That would be great.
That would be great.
What part should I give him?
To give me?
Yeah.
Well, you know, any part that's a nice, meaty part.
You want a girlfriend in the...
No, I don't care about that.
Oh, you don't care.
Okay.
No, look, you do what you want to do.
He's already...
Gad's been very good to me.
He put me in his documentary that he did in France.
Yeah.
And so I wouldn't say I'm famous in France, but every now and again,
somebody says,
hey, you were in the GAD documentary.
So show some...
I've not gotten laid from it yet,
but I almost did.
Why limit that to the documentary, Dan?
Yes, well, that's a good one.
You didn't come in Paris, you mean.
I didn't come in France.
Come in France.
That's his joke.
That's my joke.
Everyone knows his joke.
You have people that you meet in life who are,
almost everybody falls into a category.
Then you have a guy like Dan Natterman who is really unique.
You see him one time and you will remember that guy.
Oh, yeah.
For better or worse.
So you just give him some good lines to read
and he is going to be great in anything
because giving something distinction is a huge challenge in any artistic enterprise.
You should be in a Woody Allen movie.
Absolutely.
You would be perfect.
If you talk to Woody, you wouldn't even have to play.
I don't even give a fuck.
Dan, either this man is interested in you or he wants to go on the radio.
Well, Harrison, we just have a few more minutes.
Harrison Greenbaum is here.
So you just said fuck.
Are we allowed to say fuck on the radio?
Yeah, so this is Saturday night radio.
Get it out of your system, guys.
But fuck does not come naturally to Gad.
He's not at that level in English.
If somebody punches him in the stomach, he doesn't say fuck.
He says putain.
No, I do the bleep.
He goes bleep.
Gad is very fun for the whole family in France, and I don't say that. I says putain. No, I do the bleep. He goes bleep. Gad is very fun
for the whole family
in France
and I don't say that.
I say that with all due respect.
I like that.
I like that.
You don't rely.
He's not dirty at all.
No, because I talk about
things that I know.
So sex, I have no...
He's a virgin,
believe it or not.
Yeah, virgin.
No, I, you know,
it's observational.
How do you say this?
Observational.
Every time you ask me for a word in English, it's the same word.
It just pronounces different.
You see this?
I don't mind people who are dirty at all, of course.
I don't mind.
But I have the most respect for the comedians who can do it clean.
I would say I have respect for somebody who's funny, whether they're dirty or clean.
But I do think being funny
clean is an extra hurdle, but
I certainly don't condemn. I have more than a few
dirty jokes.
Is French comedy in general more
clean than American? No.
You have both. You have specialists, right?
You have guys who know how to do it.
But
you don't have any dirty...
I have a lot of innuendo
what is this
innuendo
innuendo means
I'm implying things
I'm insinuating
yeah
you can't get through
an American comedy act
without someone cursing
usually
yeah you can
I mean yeah
if you have super clean comics
but the average act
Tom Papa
Tom Papa doesn't
Gary Seinfeld
they're not at all
Gary's very clean
very clean
super clean Bill Cosby was clean we thought doesn't, Jerry Seinfeld, they're not at all. Jerry's very clean. Very clean. Super clean.
Bill Cosby was clean,
we thought,
but he was,
you know.
And you're continuing
that tradition in English
or in English,
are you going to be,
are you going to let yourself
go a little bit
and maybe explore some areas
that you don't explore in France?
This is a good question
because when you perform
in another language,
you feel more free.
Even if you're, not only the language, your mind, you know?
Your vision, your perspective become you to always.
How do you say to always?
To dare.
To dare.
You dare.
You go to some places you don't go in your original mother tongue.
I'm getting tired of the language.
Well, you know, when I speak French, I feel like another person.
There's like a barrier, you know, because it's a weird thing.
Like, I can talk to chicks in French.
It's almost like I'm texting them because it's not as direct.
So if I say, if I meet a woman and talk in French, I'm more at ease saying things, a
little more adventurous, shall we say. I don't know what it's like to be extremely famous,
but I imagine there is a psychology associated with it,
and it probably wears you down over time.
But is there something to the fact that's also liberating
about being somewhere where you're not famous?
When you're famous, I imagine you can't even risk saying something about a certain because you don't know to be in a paper
tomorrow so even bother totally agree you can kind of like get lulled as I am
in America let me and and and no that feels good you got spies every there's
French people all over the place you know it's very interesting because in
the beginning some French journalists would come to my show in America and say
oh he said that about France oh he said that about but then I mean they're they
forgot they don't but it's true what you, I mean, they forgot. They don't...
But it's true what you're saying.
You go, you dare, you don't care.
All right.
And no, it's not a big deal if I say something about...
I had very bad jokes that bombed, totally bombed.
Nobody talks about it.
I just don't do it the day after.
That's it.
But in France, whoa, this is a whole...
You know, they want to talk about it and the press
and the TV and the journal.
So here, yeah, I'm free.
Speaking of fame, I mean, in your act you talk about how you come to
America and in France
you're not anonymous. If you come to America
you're anonymous. It's great
because you can just walk the streets.
But then after a few days it's starting to piss you off. No one knows
who I am. Now how much of that joke
is real and how much of it is just to be funny?
I mean, do you really get pissed off?
I think it's a funny joke for the French, not for the Americans.
They don't know what I'm talking about.
But the funny thing is when I am with, like, the story that I tell in my show is true,
that I was in a bar and I went to talk to a very beautiful American girl in L.A.
And she basically, how do you say this? beautiful American girl in L.A. and she basically...
How do you say this?
How do you fuck off?
No, almost.
And then a group of French guys, you know, walked in the bar
and they asked me for pictures and blah, blah, and autographs
and she came back to me.
Of course.
She was like, who the fuck are you?
Changed her tune.
And, you know, and then, you know, the end of the story. You kicked her Change the tune. And you know, and you know, and then you know the end of the story.
You kicked it
to the curb.
But he also has
a funny joke
about how he can,
when he's in America,
he takes the opportunity
to buy,
to go to the drugstore
because,
you know,
in France,
you can't go
to the drugstore
and buy things
that people will say.
Yeah,
I don't do this joke anymore.
By the way,
I should,
yeah, yeah, I should do this joke. No, I don't do this joke anymore. By the way, I should do this joke.
No, I don't do it anymore.
You know, I've worked on this,
and I realized that all the jokes that are related to the fame,
it's fun for the French audience,
but the Americans, they don't relate.
They don't understand what he's saying.
Ray Romano had some kind of joke about trying to buy porn in a hotel when he was famous and he couldn't buy it as Ray Romano.
I don't remember the joke.
It's a similar thing.
Well, how do famous people get it?
I don't know if you're on prescription medication, but how do famous people get their antidepressants or their Valtrex?
Let me tell you something.
One day in Paris, I was sick.
I went to the pharmacy and I got some antibiotic.
Antibiotic?
Antibiotic.
Antibiotic.
Antibiotic.
Yeah.
And so he put everything in the bag.
I said, okay, how much do I want to pay?
And the guy said, no, this is on me.
This is the worst present.
You don't want to hear that.
I don't want to hear that.
Let me pay my shit because I don't want to hear that. Let me pay my shit
because I don't want to get this
offer. No, I don't want.
We have with us, by the way, just stopped by
Harrison Greenbaum, long time
comedy seller
alumni. And I
invited you because I know that you and Gad have a special
relationship. Yeah, we live together.
Very special. We cuddle.
Same room, same, right?
Oh, yeah.
Same room, same apartment.
We alternate top and bottom.
Yeah, exactly.
Now I don't believe it.
No.
I know that Harrison's not alternating.
No, Harrison is, you know, Harrison is a great comedian.
We met when I was shooting the documentary, like Dan.
And since then, he, since then, we worked together.
We tried to find things.
He helps me to find some jokes.
He opens for me at Joe's Pub and other places.
Voilà.
Yeah.
Now, Gad, I don't know if you...
Have you noticed anything interesting about Harrison?
Oh, many things I noticed about Harrison.
He's a magician.
He seems quite European, I'd say.
But he's enthusiastic, even though he's Ashkenaz, you know?
You or not.
That's my problem, you know?
He's smiling, he's happy.
He has a joie de vivre.
He has a joie de vivre.
That's a French phrase I know.
There's no joie de vivre.
No.
Not a man. Joie de mort. Joie de vivre. He has a joie de vivre. That's a French phrase I know. There's no joie de vivre. No. Not a man.
There's joie de mort.
Joie de mort.
Oh.
Absolutely.
Well, there's joie de sleep.
So can I just ask a question?
I enjoy it.
Because I can't help it.
I want to ask it.
I know it's cliche and trite, but I never really heard it answered to my satisfaction.
Is Jerry Lewis actually some kind of hero in France?
He was.
He is.
He was.
Of course.
Why?
Yes, of course.
Hero.
He is the most popular comedian,
comedic actor of all time
for French people.
Because he's not here.
What do you mean he's not here?
He's very famous here.
No, he's not.
His popularity did not continue and he's considered here? He's very famous here. No, he's not. His popularity did not continue,
and he's considered to be kind of...
Cheesy.
Cheesy, yeah.
Yeah, no, it's because it's very simple to understand that.
It's all about the physicality
and the crazy things that he used to do.
So that's why Mr. Bean also was super famous in France,
you know, because they had all the gesture
and the facial things, and this is why, you know? because they had all the gesture and the facial things and
this is why, you know. And Americans
don't like that anymore, is that it?
I don't know. I don't want to speak for them.
Also, they're speaking in English, but if the French
audience is watching it, they can get what he's
saying better because of all the physicality.
This is why you guys know Louis de Funès.
Louis de Funès. No, no, they don't know Louis de Funès.
What do you mean? Americans? Nobody knows him.
I mean, they don't know anything about others.
Very little.
Very little.
No.
Ask them one French actor.
They don't know.
He's Canadian.
Is he French?
Brigitte Bardot.
Brigitte Bardot.
Brigitte Bardot.
And Jean.
And Jean Reno.
Jean Reno.
And then who plays Amelie?
Audrey Tatu. by the way.
Audrey Tattoo.
Gad had a love scene with her in a movie.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
Sophie Marceau.
Did you have a love scene with her?
Sophie Marceau?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Marion Cotillard.
Wait, wait, wait.
What kind of love scene?
Love scene.
Naked?
Yeah.
How does that work?
Are you actually naked?
No.
No, unfortunately.
I would love it.
I would have loved, but no. No. There, unfortunately. I would love it. I would have loved, but no.
No, there's something.
They strap your...
Je n'en ai tout.
Je n'en ai tout.
I took a risk.
I took a chance.
Did it come out right?
Je n'en ai tout.
That's so cute.
Le petit pénis.
Le petit pénis.
Le petit pénis. Yeah, the penis. Le petit penis. Le petit penis.
Welcome to the show.
It's a very fine show.
No, you need to put something, you know?
And is it arousing, the shoot a love scene?
I would imagine it's pretty uncomfortable.
It depends.
I mean, it depends.
You know, I was supposed to kiss Sophie Marceau,
and I was pretending to kiss Sophie Marceau,
and I was pretending to, like, trip on the stairs, you know,
to redo it again and again and again because it was so beautiful.
It's a great job, right?
You have Sophie Marceau in your arms, and you have to kiss her seven, eight, nine times.
This is a great job, and you get paid for this. You get paid for that, huh?
Yeah.
There's a great movie.
I didn't see the movie he's referring to, but Or De Prix, or Priceless is the great job, and you get paid for this. You get paid for that, huh? Yeah. There's a great movie. I didn't see the movie he's referring to,
but Or De Prix, or Priceless is the American title.
With him in Audrey Tattoo plays a prostitute
that Gad, well, the character of Gad in the movie
is trying to afford her, but he can't,
and comedy ensues, and Audrey Tattoo looks phenomenal
and very sexy in this film.
I want to just
clarify something
in my mind
because it made me think
what Harrison just said.
So if Harrison is correct
that the reason is
because of the language,
does that mean
that the physical
gesturing comedy
by French comedians
is less popular
in France
or is this just a genre
that they still,
by the way,
just want to make it clear,
I adore that brand of comedy.
We still play Chaplin here.
I know.
Because we regard him and my father, too, as the...
And you see? No sound, right?
No sound.
Although you know that stand-up comedians,
many look down their nose
at comedy that's not observational.
Literally, they don't respect...
You know this expression, look down their nose?
No, but I understand.
They're arrogant about it.
They don't respect physical comedy.
Even when it's mixed in with the pathos
and the genius of Chaplin
in the storyline, they still don't respect it.
You don't throw pathos at the guys.
Pathos is probably a similar word in Fresno.
I don't even know what it means.
It's a Latin word.
I don't even know what it means in English.
But we've been here a half hour, so, Gad, your English is starting to,
probably now you're getting fatigued.
No, I'm going to switch to French.
That's it.
Okay.
Can I get another French alcohol?
No, it's a warm-up.
It's a warm-up for my show tonight.
Are you opening the show tonight?
Yeah.
So maybe you're going to do a longer set.
I opened for Gad the other day.
It's very tough because they're all there.
They're there for him.
Well, maybe I just stink.
But I had a tough time the other night.
You just don't seem to be happy to be there.
And then they look at you and they say, why?
I couldn't be happy.
They gave us this guy we don't know.
It's an opener.
We're going to be nice.
So at least he should be nice with us.
I was perfectly nice.
Apparently not, Dan.
No, Matthew.
But they're there because you're still bringing the audience in,
and there's a lot of commotion.
So, Dan, when you hear him say something,
and he's being obviously pretty forthright, pretty blunt with you.
Yeah.
What goes through your head?
Your immediate action is to be defensive.
Obviously, that's human.
But then at some point, you have to say to yourself,
wait a second, he's my friend.
He's a fan of mine.
He couldn't be telling me this unless he really believed it.
He's not an opinion I can dismiss
because he's obviously accomplished.
Maybe he's right.
No, but he's not in this particular case.
I'm a little bit exaggerating.
He misunderstands me.
For some reason, he perceives me as...
Him and all the members of the audience, apparently.
No, because it's a tough room to open.
Because they're still filing in.
Yeah, but Harrison could maybe tell us about it.
Sometimes it's very hard, right?
Sometimes it's hard.
Sometimes it's easy.
It depends on, I think, the ratio of English
speakers to non-English speakers. The more
English speakers you have, the more...
Because Boston felt like there were a lot more
just native English speakers.
Where sometimes there's an audience where I say,
who here speaks English as a first language? You get three hands.
So that's going to be a
harder one because they're French speakers
first and English speakers second.
What I'm getting at is that God has identified something in Dan, which we all recognize as
Dan Aderman fans, and he refuses to look it in the eye.
If Dan does it again, you should wear a scarf that will enamor you with the crowd.
All right.
Well, that could be.
That could be.
Or a beret.
Well, what exactly are you referring to that he is hit upon?
I think that when you get
and I don't want to
dominate anybody
cut in
I think that when you
are not totally
in your comfort zone
which with you
is a very
very sweet spot
narrow sweet spot
like really
like you know
that you get a little
flustered
and it will come
and it comes across
maybe as being aloof
or not friendly
or whatever
which is not actually
you're not feeling unfriendly
it's just nerves apparently
but you do lose something
I've seen it in you
and I don't know
how you can overcome it
but it has to
at some point
start with acknowledging it
if you could ever overcome it
and some people
you know
it's human
you may not be able to overcome it
that's another show
we just started right now
right
it's another show
La Psychologie
La Psychologie.
Like, psychology,
you've done that. But I think it's right.
It's called analysis.
I'm trying to come up
with a French word for sourpuss.
No, it's not sourpuss,
but go ahead, go ahead, God,
whatever you're going to say.
I think just it's very interesting
to hear that,
and I think only real friends
can talk about it.
Absolutely.
And in private.
On the radio
with all the listeners.
Exactly.
You know, this is a particularly tough time for me
because we are at the beginning of 2016,
and the beginning of the year is always particularly difficult for me
because I have such expectations going into the new year,
like this is going to be my year.
And then after a few weeks, I'm like,
oh, this is just going to be as shitty as last year.
You know what I mean?
You put a lot of pressure on yourself at the beginning of the year.
And so January tends to be a difficult month for me.
What about April?
April is usually pretty good.
April things start to get better around July.
Jack season?
So I'll see you.
Book him in April.
And also I'm in a very angsty state right now in general.
Because?
Because I'm just, you know, because I'm always in an angst-ridden state,
but, you know, I'm getting older and I'm starting to panic about my future.
You should translate.
He said you should accept what you have and you have friendship.
Oh, there you go.
It's a nice sentiment day.
Yeah, very nice.
Although I just got a W-9 from another comedy club.
I won't mention its name.
And they put as the income they paid me this year
over a million dollars.
So I'm in the middle of trying to get them to correct that.
You're a tax shelter.
Right, exactly.
I'm like, what?
You didn't pay me one point.
They barely paid me $1, let alone 1.1 million dollars
By the way, he's not that happy a guy
Why are you lashing out at him?
I'm just saying, it's not an insult
Like many great people, like many great artists
No, this happened to me, what Harrison just said
Happened to me in France
But the opposite
Oh no, well that's good, though.
They were supposed to give me one million.
They gave me 1,000.
Maybe they were planning on sending you 1,000 checks.
I was mad.
Right.
No, but Dan, I mean, maybe you prefer to talk about it in private,
but, you know, when you come to the room, the green room,
I'm happy to see you, but if you're nervous,
that's something. But sometimes
I want to say, I'm happy to see you.
And when I touch him, he gets very
embarrassed, you know, anxious.
When I touch him, because Sephardic
people from Morocco, they like to touch, so he
doesn't like to kiss. Then I give him
a nice hug, little kiss,
you know. But the French have a thing, they
kiss guys, kiss guys in France
and they kiss twice
they do the cheek to cheek
yeah
have you seen that
that YouTube viral video
of that
fat black woman
talking on the news
about a thing
like
I just
I don't know if you've seen it
it's like
it's a horrible
woman
uh huh
and I just feel like
when you're judging
Ashkenazi Jews
by Dan Natterman,
I don't think it's fair
to use him
as the poster boy for the
traits of Ashkenazi. You can hug me
and I don't even know you very well. Hug away. I don't mind
being hugged.
I'm a big hugger. I put my hand on Dan like
and you can feel him tense immediately. He doesn't like it.
Is it something from childhood?
But you know what, when you shake...
Well, I mean, nothing.
Sure, my uncle used to fuck me in the ass, but other than that...
Other than that,
I don't...
No, I don't think it's related to...
It's connected to that, no.
It's Ashkenaz.
Let me ask you this question.
Yes, Gad, not God.
Gad.
Gad is... Yeah, in French, God, not God. Gad. Gad. Gad. Gad is, yeah.
In French, God is something else.
God means a dildo.
Ah.
Yeah.
Well, that's a big difference.
Yeah.
No, some people believe in dildo.
One you use to fuck in the ass and the other is God.
Why fuck in the ass?
This is, you know the joke.
I broke my teeth.
What...
You know, this is for Dan again,
but you can get real perspective on it.
This is his show.
This is all about you today.
What's wrong?
But this is kind of...
It will be about you too.
The question will be about...
Will be an insight into both of you.
Yeah, okay.
If you were never to have become famous as you are now,
if you were only to achieve
Dan Natterman level success in France,
do you think you'd be happier, more unhappy?
Okay, to be honest with you.
If I had the power, the comedic power, the writings,
and the strong jokes that he has,
if I had the same, I would be the happiest man in the world.
Look at that.
Even without the fame.
Without the fame.
I don't care.
I believe you.
He's sharp.
He's very smart, brilliant.
Great jokes.
Always the same jokes, but very strong.
Very strong.
Well, no, I do have some new jokes.
But I would prefer to have less, I mean, one button jokes.
How do you say this? Less good jokes. Less new jokes. But I would prefer to have less, I mean, one button jokes. How do you say this?
Less good jokes.
Less good jokes.
And be, you know,
fun, happy,
eating kebab
and hanging out.
Because my problem
with Dan is that
he dismisses everything
unless he's super famous.
No, no, not at all.
Not at all.
When we all know
perfectly well,
he can become
a household name
and he would still be miserable.
It has nothing to do
with the fame.
I just want to make enough money. Okay, now let do with the fame. I just want to make enough money.
Okay, now let me give you,
no, I want to give you this example.
I want to make enough money.
When we first met,
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
This is the debate.
This is the presidential.
No, when we first met,
we were talking, blah, blah, blah,
and Dan, I Googled him
and I saw him on Letterman.
He was doing a set.
He was doing a bit on Letterman.
Letterman for us, for everyone,
is a money man. It's crazy. So I said to Dan, wow was doing a bit on Letterman. Letterman for us, for everyone, is a monument.
It's crazy.
So I said to Dan, wow, I saw you on Letterman.
And he said, well, I don't know.
I said, don't.
Same suit every time.
Don't.
Don't.
Ne m'enlève pas mon plaisir à moi.
Don't harsh my mellow.
No.
Don't piss on my parade.
Yeah.
I mean, it's my pleasure. I was on my parade. Yeah. It's my pleasure.
I was happy to see you there.
It's like when you do
a good set and I say,
that was great.
They say,
oh no,
I don't know.
Bye bye.
It's like if you have sex
with a girl
and she said,
that was great.
That's never happened.
What's that like?
Is that incorrect?
We're in the realm of fantasy.
I don't want to get too much
into my psychology
because that's not why we're here
I guess we're always here for that
let's talk about Harrison and his sexual preference
yeah
you want any more on Dan?
in my own defense
all I really want is to have enough money
that I don't have to do certain gigs that I really don't like doing
like going to comedy clubs on the road
I have an idea,
but I'm not sure you're going to accept.
What about you sell me all your crazy jokes
for a big amount of money?
I'll do it.
And then you go on vacation,
you have fun, you hang out.
You take the whole act.
I'll give you the act.
I'll give you my act.
And the accent.
You give me,
I'll give you the whole act,
and I'll throw in... It comes with the accent. You give me, I'll give you the whole act. I'll give you, and I'll throw in.
It comes with the accent.
It comes with the voice.
I'll throw in.
But only for his jokes.
Like the guy would be
talking normally like this.
Yeah,
I was like,
how big is my mouth?
What about this?
You would make a lot of money.
I give you my act in English.
Yeah.
Okay.
You get the,
you get the act.
You get the,
the,
the,
the can opener. What? And a set of steak knives for $2 million.
Because sometimes he helps me.
You know, he gives me jokes.
He's a great writer.
He's a great writer, but he doesn't give me the best jokes.
You know, he takes the time.
You think he holds back?
Yeah, of course.
Is that true, Dan?
No, it's not true.
Harrison is giving the best.
He's doing his best.
He's happy.
I'm doing good.
It's all about Harrison.
No.
I mean, what about this?
You get a lot of money.
You go on vacation with the girl.
You don't, you know, every day and the cellar and this.
You spend the three most beautiful months of your life.
I would only do it.
You want my act, my whole act?
No, give me like 10 jokes of your act.
Yeah, but if it's my act, these are my good jokes.
I need a lot of money.
I need like retirement money.
Yeah.
Like a million dollars.
Two million, two million.
No, you said a million.
I'm at a million euros.
Okay.
I give you one million.
Euro. Unless if you prove me that you're going to make a million euros. Okay. I give you one million. Euro.
Unless if you prove me that you're going to make one million dollars if you don't sell that to me.
That's a Sephardic talking.
That's an interesting deal.
I don't have that proof.
Okay.
Your mother can maybe tell me.
Okay.
I don't know what he means by that.
Harrison.
So do you tell your jokes about the sexual ambiguity and everything?
I do the whole act.
I mean, I have a chunk now about France
and sort of me connecting to the French audience as an American,
but otherwise the same.
For the people who don't know Harrison,
Harrison is a great comedian.
Went to Harvard, by the way.
But he appears, I don't know if you can say things like this anymore,
but he appears to be homosexual to somebody who, you know.
To the naked eye.
To the naked eye.
To the what?
Better than saying with a microscope.
Oh, he's only gay under a microscope.
And honestly, to be honest, if you had a gun to my head,
I would have to say.
I brought lady friends to this table.
I don't buy it.
I believe he's gay.
As a matter of fact...
Oh, yeah?
Seriously?
Absolutely.
I'm more confident.
I know that Harrison's gay, and I'm pretty sure my kids are mine.
That's how confident I am.
And I'm pretty sure Harrison is not my son.
I'm pretty sure Harrison's not my son.
You can't split the difference at bi, even? Full-on gay. I don't... Full-on... Or whatever. I'm not sure Harrison is not my son. I'm pretty sure Harrison is not my son. You can't split the difference at bi even?
Full on gay.
Full on or whatever.
I'm not sure.
Those are different.
I'm not sure what bi means.
Bi would mean I'd be into guys and girls.
But I'll give you at least, I'm just saying, I think sexual contact with a man is in your repertoire.
And I will not believe that it's not.
Repertoire is a French word.
I can't believe that.
Just so you know.
Well, no,
but the reason I split hairs.
Oh, we're talking
very private here.
But the reason I split hairs on it
is the bi gay thing
is bi would suggest,
like gay would suggest
I have zero desire
to have sex with women ever.
Bi would say I have both.
So I think
when you say gay,
you're implying that
I have no sexual desire
for women.
Are you copying to bi right now?
I'm not, but I'm saying the gay thing.
It sounds an awful lot like you're admitting to bi.
No, but gay is way easier to demolish than bi.
Because it's different proofs, right?
Well, thank you for helping me with my case.
Okay, bi.
I'm sure Harrison is bi.
Now what do you got?
Different proofs.
No, but that's at least easier.
All right.
I think you walked into a trap there with that.
I don't think so.
Yeah, yeah.
At least we were agreeing that I'm attracted to women.
The question is if I'm also attracted to men now,
which is a separate question than if I'm attracted to one or the other.
That's why I split hairs on it.
Would you shut up?
Are you attracted to men or not?
I'm not.
I lied.
Go ahead.
I'm going to hear you.
It's nice to be here, guys.
It's nice to be on stage.
I love being on stage.
I did a lot of musical theater when I was in high school and college, so my nickname was Faggot.
It was good times. It was good times. If you're still laughing, you're perpetuating the hate
crime, so good work everybody. People think I'm gay. All right, good reaction.
It's weird, right?
Because when people think you're gay,
there's no proving that you're straight, right?
You know what I'm talking about.
Sweater, right?
Like, if you walked in on me
and I was just making out with a dude,
don't get excited,
but if I was just making out with a dude,
you'd walk in and be like,
he is definitely gay,
and that's reasonable. But you walk in on me, was just making out with a dude you'd walk in like he is definitely gay and that's reasonable but you walk in on me I'm making out with a woman you'd be like he's fooling himself and that's not that it doesn't have its advantages though you know what I mean
like nobody asked me to donate blood so that's good HIV joke high five five, everybody. We did it. We did it.
Actually, V is the Roman numeral four or five,
so HIV is a high five,
if you pronounce it correctly.
It's an ancient languages joke, everybody.
This comedy train is going express.
I am. I am.
I'm straight, I think.
I don't know.
Let's go with it.
I don't know. I've never had sex with, I think. I don't know, let's go with it. I...
I don't know, I've never had sex with a man, so I don't know, you know?
Like, maybe I'd like it, you know?
Maybe I'd love it.
I didn't mean to look evil
the times I said that.
But you know the saying,
right? The dick fits.
It's not a saying
it always does
you use that in your act
yeah oh yeah
that's why I feel
I have a green light
to talk about
and what makes you think
I'm gay
I don't think that you're gay
we never said that
you think everyone is gay
so what makes you think I'm gay I don't think why are you saying this I don't think I you're gay. We never said that. You think everyone is gay. So what makes you think I'm gay?
I don't think.
Why are you saying this?
I don't think.
I just.
You could be gay.
Now you're trapped.
No, but I.
Because I don't believe that.
He looks like Jerry.
Just the eyes like this.
No?
Yeah.
You look like Paul Newman.
Oh, really?
With the eyes, yeah.
With this.
I look like Eddie Murphy.
I feel like this personality type exists in nature throughout cultures,
and it's representative of whatever it is.
I mean, I didn't make the rules.
I'm not, you know, I'm not God Gad, but that's the way it is.
I'm no God Gad.
I like it.
Was there a question there?
Well, I'm throwing the subject open to anybody who wants to
address it
or we can talk about
something else
I would like to hear
I feel like Mark Norman
had the best
we were on a different podcast
and he said
the reason I know Harrison's not gay
is because if he was gay
he would do it
because it would move his career
forward faster
on that
oh yeah
wow
that is a good point
right
like it would be an advantage
to be gay
and Jewish
and Jewish
the Jew not so much.
Oh, really?
Not in comedy, I feel like.
Too many Jews in comedy.
It doesn't get you ahead.
Nobody's like, oh, you've got to book this guy.
He's a Jew.
In France, the comics that I've met are overwhelmingly Muslim Arab.
Is that correct?
No.
I would say not only Muslim Arabs.
I would say North African, Jewish, and Muslims,
but in the 80s, most of them were Algerians, Tunisians,
and not a lot of Moroccans, Algerian, Tunisians, Muslims, and Jewish people.
Michel Boujna and Smaïn, and all those guys are from North Africa.
Who was that first guy?
Michel Boujna. Oh, he first guy? Michel Bouchneau.
Oh, he's good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't know him.
See, that's interesting, though.
Is that because they were sort of outsiders
so they had a better perspective?
Yeah, I think so.
I think that's typical of comedians in general.
Because in America, the Jews were the outsiders
and that's why they sort of...
We have very few Arab comedians,
although there are some. No, you have some. Well,ians, although there are some.
No, you have some.
Well, yeah, we have Ahmed Ahmed.
Maz Jobrani.
Maz is actually, he's Persian, but he is Muslim, I believe.
Dean of Adala.
Dean was Christian.
Dean was Italian when I met him, and then after 9-11, all of a sudden,
he said, well, now I'm going to be Muslim because this is more interesting.
So we're almost out of time.
I saw your Seinfeld thing, and for some reason it sticks in my mind that you said to Jerry something like, you know, whenever you meet another comedian, no matter where in the world it is, there's a connection between comedians.
And I also remember he kind of, I guess it's the editing,
he didn't address it, he didn't answer it,
he just kind of let it hang there and moved on.
Larry Miller has a similar quote,
which is that we're all brothers in arms.
But I was interested in that.
What is it that you feel your connection with a comedian is? When you say this, I think about musicians also.
It's the same connection.
It's very strong, more than actors, more than...
I think it's similar to musicians. It's something that we feel very strong, more than actors, more than... I think it's similar to musicians.
It's something that we feel very strong.
I mean, real comedians who observe,
who do like, analyze life,
and really look at the world with the microscope.
We're connected. We don't, you know, we don't need...
There's a very funny story with jerry
first time we met he was in can at the festival he walked in a room he knew that he was gonna meet
with me first time and we were like 12 people so he walked in the room and i swear i'm not
making that up or something he pointed at me and said you're the funny guy I said what?
I said you googled me
or something before
he said no
I said
how do you know
I'm the comedian
there was like
agents
publicists
actors
he said
you're the funny man
oh yeah
that reminds me
of a story
I was on
Conan with 50 Cent
and I walked into
a room full of black people
and I said
which one is Fitty?
I didn't know
which one
I had no idea you really said that? I didn't know which one. I had no idea.
You really said that?
I didn't know which one of Fitty was.
Oh, you said that.
I thought you said they said that.
So it's the opposite of what yours said.
Yeah, it's the opposite.
But it reminded me of it.
When I was just starting out, somebody was like a friend of a friend of Larry Miller,
who's an awesome comic.
And somehow it got, basically I got an email saying, Larry, we'd be happy to talk to you.
Here's his cell phone number.
He's going to be driving on the road for like 45 minutes to an hour, so
if you call him, he can talk to you while he's on the
road. So I give him a call. He had no
idea who I was, and he just started talking.
At one point, I was just like, why are you talking?
Why would you be willing to talk to me? You don't know who I am.
And he said, we're brothers in arms.
We're all...
And he was just giving you advice about comedy?
Yeah, he let me ask him any question I want.
He's quite a political conservative. Did you know that?
Yeah, but the whole point is that we were talking
but it's about comedy
which is cool
I know but I know
you usually don't like that
so listen
so yeah
Gad has to do a show
yeah I'm going to
Joe's Pub now
how long are you
playing there
until June
so let's go Dan
let's all go one night
I'd love to see that show
that'd be great
yeah please
we'll all go and then
I'll get tickets
we'll all go
no no no we'll get you tickets no'll all go. No, no, no.
We'll get you tickets.
No, no, no.
Can you give me a spot here?
Well, I don't...
Norm will give you a spot
whenever you want.
No, I want to ask you
and you ask Norm.
Norm, can he have a spot?
But don't tell him I asked you.
First of all...
No, but Doug,
again, ask me for a spot.
I don't know where the joke
in this is,
but we'd be honored
to have you perform here
anytime you want.
And you can sing here
and play the balala,
whatever that thing is
you're smacking on.
No, this is,
we should hang out,
yeah, we should do the cajon
and the percussion
and the oud.
I would love that.
That's a great musician as well.
We play here on Friday nights
sometimes,
but I don't bring my oud,
but maybe I will be
right here in the olive tree.
And I also play
in the underground.
Right in front of the screen.
We have a band
in the underground,
but we played acoustically,
like very informal,
which I kind of prefer, just here under the... So I bring the cajon, I bring the darabuka, and I play in the underground. Right over on the screen. We have a band in the underground, but we played acoustically, like very informal, which I kind of prefer.
Just here under the...
So I bring the cajon,
I bring the darabuca,
and I play with you guys.
That would be so much fun.
That would be so much fun.
That would be great.
Thanks for having me.
Harrison's dad plays harmonica,
and he sat in with us one time.
Yeah, that was an awesome night.
Oh, that's awesome.
And then a couple weeks later...
Somebody told me, Harrison,
you played the fluter.
No, I'm just kidding.
That's a skin fruit.
A couple weeks later,
Dave Chappelle brought in
Stevie Wonder's harmonica player, who I think is, is he French?
He's a black guy, but I think he's French.
I don't know.
Anyway, amazing.
We have black people in France.
No, but I think he's an amazing harmonica player.
You know what French people call black people?
Black.
They say,
Oh, yeah.
They use our word black.
What do Ashkenazi call them?
I don't know what you're saying. Very interesting because we have some words in France
that are like English words and they don't exist here.
For example, if you were going to do an interview
with a journalist on the phone,
in French we call this a phoner.
We call it too.
Oh, yeah?
Okay, so this is totally ruining my...
I mean, I've never heard that phrase. Has he learned nothing about comedy, Harrison? Shut up, Harrison. Oh, yeah? Okay, so this is totally ruining my... I mean, I've never heard that phrase.
Has he learned nothing about comedy, Harrison?
Shut up, Harrison.
Nothing, nothing, nothing.
Anyway, you can follow Gad at...
A boner.
What is a boner?
That's an erection.
Harrison knows that one.
With a journalist.
With a journalist.
Oh, you have a boner with Miss...
It's not the phoner.
So that's phone shit.
I'm going to let you do the sign-off, Dan.
He's got to go.
First of all,
you can follow Gad
at Gad Elmal on Twitter.
Yeah, on Twitter
and Instagram.
G-A-D-E-L-M-A-L-E-H.
Yeah, this is very hard.
Instagram and at Joe's...
Go to joespub.com,
is it?
Yes.
For tickets and showtimes.
And thank you for coming, Gad.
Thanks a lot.
That was great.
Noam, I would like
to thank you guys
because it gave me
a great opportunity
to have a real conversation with my friend Dan Natterman.
My pleasure.
I can only talk on radio.
Good night, everybody.
At Harrison Greenhouse.
At Harrison Comedy.
At Harrison Comedy.
Bye.
