The Comedy Cellar: Live from the Table - Gianmarco Soresi

Episode Date: March 17, 2023

Noam has a big announcement for the team and guest, comic and actor Gianmarco Soresi joins. Soresi's multiple television appearances include Comedy Central, Netflix and many others. His podcast is called The Downside and he is a Comedy Cellar regular. 

This is Live from the Table, a Comedy Cellar-affiliated podcast coming at you on Sirius XM 99. Raw dog. Thank you, Noam. And the Laugh Button Podcast Network. Here we are. Dan Natterman here, sitting in the captain's chair, because Noam can only be with us for about 10 or 15 minutes. But Noam Dorman is here now, and he is the owner of the world-famous comedy cellar, the ever-growing world-famous comedy cellar.

And Perry Alashinbrand is with us. Hi. Hi. How do you do? Noam can only be with us for 10 minutes tonight, I think, because he has dinner with a very important man. Well, I got interviewed today by Tyler Cowen, the economist for his show

Conversations with Tyler, which was very, very nerve-wracking for me. The interview went okay. Nicole says it went okay. Do you think she would tell you if it didn't? No, but I could read between the lines. I actually thought it was good. Reading between the lines. I actually thought it was good. Reading between the lines with Nicole

is something of a difficult task, but one we must master. He asks me a lot of questions about comedy, and it always makes me uncomfortable because I don't feel like I'm any kind of expert on comedy at all. Like, at all. But he asks me a lot of questions,

and I answer best I could. Can you talk closer to the mic? What is going on with you? I'm talking about comedy. That's very, very interesting that you say that, because I doubt any other club owners would say that. I don't know that. I mean, some might, but I think it would be unusual.

What did he ask to call? Like, why do, I can can't remember the questions you asked but like really clever smart questions i had opinions about these things but they're not really based on my experience owning the comedy cellar maybe they are like what can you give us well yes you're like the one thing i didn't have an answer to is like there's a british comedy and american comedy i'm like i don't know like i when i watch monty python movie or caddyshack i see the difference so i don't i don't really know it i don't really know it in person but um you know they're wordier i don't know like i when i watch monty python movie or caddyshack i see the difference so i don't i don't really know it i don't really know it in person but um you know they're wordier i don't know but uh other than that like things about running a nightclub i i do understand i don't

know you know there are different categories of comedy club owners they're comedy club owners that just saw it as a business opportunity i think richie tinkin of the comic strip and his partners fit into that category. I think the story is they walked into Catch a Rising Star years ago and said, wow, this place is doing great. We should open up a similar place. There are comedy club owners that really love comedy. The Stand falls into that category.

Those people were comedy fans. Not Dan Aderman fans, I should point out, but that's neither here nor there. They were comedy fans, and their desire was to open up a comedy club. And then there's people like Noam, who's in his own category. He just tripped and fell into it, really, basically. Well, but I was in show business, so it's less than you'd think,

because I did start a nightclub, the Cafe Juan. It was very successful, and I did start a nightclub, the Cafe Juan. It was very successful. And, you know, I did grow up in show business kind of. But, yes, I did trip into it. Well, you were born. I mean, you grew up here. So it wasn't that much of a. I mean, I tripped into it in a sense that I inherited the club.

Right. But you didn't have to take the club. I mean, you could have sold it, right? Yes, I could. But I did have the to take the club. I mean, you could have sold it, right? Yes, I could have. But I did have the skill to do it. I mean, I'm not saying I'm the most skilled, but it's like I inherited an aerospace company,

and I know calculus and stuff. I do know the basics of running a nightclub. I don't know where I'm going with this. I mean, as far as comedy is concerned, your rule is a fairly simple one. Is the audience laughing? Yeah, that's the point. I have opinions about comedy. That's exactly it.

I have opinions about comedy, but nobody should think that those opinions are the reason the club is successful. The reason the club is successful has nothing to do with my opinions about comedy. I guess that's what I'm saying. Well, I mean, that's ridiculous. No, it's not.

My reason the club is successful is because I worry about the customers and I make sure the stage is right and the lighting is right. It's all of those things. And any idiot knows if the people are laughing or not. And they, oh, everybody's laughing at that guy. Hmm, I need to hire an expert's laughing at that guy. Hmm.

I need to hire an expert to tell me what I should do. But it's a little bit more, it's arguably a little bit more complicated than that. I don't know that it is, Dan. Of course it is. I don't know that it is. Well, you know, you succeeded and the proof is in the pudding. But, for example, if five comics are all funny but all talking about the same topics you might do well not to have all five of them on the same show i guess so you know what i've

happened does never happen you know if you have five of the same type of humor so that you know when we've talked about diversity as a not not just as a happy accident, but as a potentially beneficial thing because you get people like variety. Variety is the spice of life, as the old saying goes. So it's fun to hear. It's not just fun to hear Zarna because she's funny. It's fun to hear Zarna because she's talking about shit that nobody else is talking about. There's two reasons why. Yes. But I was actually going to use that as Zarna as an example,

because you said that when you started booking her, she wasn't getting booked other places. She's still not getting booked other places. And I think that we've talked off air about other people like this also. So you do have some kind of sense of. No, I don't. I think I take no matter word. If the audience is laughing and laughing consistently, that's that act will get booked.

Now, why? Why are other clubs not doing this? That you have to ask them. I think it's because they have their own views. Like, I think it's it's actually counterproductive to be too into comedy. You can't overthink it. They're trying to have a comedy club in their own image. That's interesting.

That's interesting. Anyway. And also, I think a lot of times personal relationships might enter into play. In the case of some club owners, they want, oh, so-and-so doesn't hang around enough, isn't kissing my ass enough. Noam doesn't care if you kiss his ass. He'd prefer you didn't. He'd rather you... Although that comic, his name, the Jewish guy who...

Jonathan... Jonathan Randall. He'll never perform at the club. He would. You're kidding, of course. He's not kidding. But, you know, I mean, the classic example is Dino Badala, who used to come here and rant and rave his pro-Palestinian point of view with Noam's Israeli father and still worked here. Actually, the only thing that bothers me about Jonathan Randall is nothing to do with what he tweets or nothing to do with what he said here.

Yeah. It's the fact that he seemed to be duplicitous. I know. He said X, Y, Z here and then went right out and tweeted the opposite of what he seemed to indicate. That's what annoyed me. I know that that's what bothered you. That it seemed and it wasn't. Well, people, people, I mean, but this is very common.

People come here. When you're face-to-face with somebody, we've seen it all the time, it's hard to be too antagonistic with somebody that's sitting right in front of you. Yeah, but don't waste our time telling us stuff you don't really believe. Well, that's another story. I'm just saying it's a common phenomenon. Straightforward. I mean, we're not exactly dragging it out of him.

He tweets it all day. It's not like, listen, don't ask me those questions about, you know, I don't want... We've had people do that, though, remember? We had somebody be like, oh, how could you ask me that? Yeah, but that's right. I understood her point. I think we didn't even run this show. But with him, this is his public persona. That's why we called him in. You're always tweeting

all this stuff about Israel. Why don't you come in and talk about it? Oh, I think the Jewish people have a right to their home, man. Okay, that's number one. Number two, did we announce McDonald's or closed? Did we announce it? Not officially. Yeah, we can officially announce it.

Okay, we can officially announce it. Big news, everybody. We've alluded to it before, and I've tried to bring it up, and Noam chastised me for jumping the gun, but it can now be told. Noam Dorman is- What are you doing there? I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. Noam Dorman's big news. Noam Dorman is purchasing the McDonald's on West 3rd and 6th Avenue. I own it. Oh, you own it? Well, Dwarmen Co. I started a company called Dwarmen Co. It's original.

So now how many W-2s are we going to get every year? We got a fucking W-2 from- You know how every single room Noam sends a separate W Dwarmen Coal. It's original. So now how many W-2s are we going to get every year? We got a fucking W-2 from... You know how every single room Gnome sends a separate W-2? I know. Wait, this is amazing, though. 1099. This is huge breaking news, Dan. I mean, can you set this up?

Well, there's a McDonald's on the corner of West 3rd Street and 6th Avenue. It's been there for probably since Gnome was a child. Yeah. Since the 70s. For some reason, they decided to close down. I don't know why. You know, since when did McDonald's close? I mean, it was doing good business.

I think they closed because it was a lot of, you know, that block became very unseemly. And it was a lot of, like, incidents there. People were being up. People were having sex in the chairs. It was all kinds of ridiculous stuff going on late night at that McDonald's. And that went on for years and years and years. They tried their best to control it. But in the age of social media, people started tweeting that stuff out.

And McDonald's just couldn't have that. I have no inside knowledge. I believe that's the reason. And how is the comedy teller going to prevent sex and late night sex and fights? I guess it's a different demographic. Yeah, it's not going to happen. Nobody even made the announcement yet. Breaking news.

I just said breaking news. No one has purchased the McDonald's on Western. And I'm opening a new comedy club. Yeah, I guess I didn't say that part. He's not opening up a Popeye's chicken, which, by the way, might well be quite lucrative. I'm not allowed to. The terms of the deal can't be used for fast food for 20 years.

Mazel tov. Is there anything else you could do with that space besides a comedy club that you would find to be lucrative, that you could think of? I'm allowed to have—I can't have comedy. I'm sorry. I can't have—what did I say? I can't have fast food. I can't have comedy. I'm sorry. I can't have fast food. I can't have cannabis. And I can't have adult entertainment or even porn.

You can't open one of those fantasy shops or whatever. So what's left? Could be a CVS. It's not really a good location. That could be a restaurant. I mean, there's not much. Okay, you're opening a new room. In keeping with your brand,

you're opening up another comedy cellar club, and you were toying with a potential name. I don't know if you've decided that or wish to go into that. The Menachem Dorman Comedy Theater. I love it. Menachem Dorman was Noam's father, who started this club. I love it. It's not a club. Noam's father who started this club. I love it.

I just got choked up for a second there. He was the original owner of this club. That's so beautiful. And it's the Menachem Dorman comedy theater. I was raised right, Dan. Now, will

will strident anti-Zionist come to the Menachem Dorman Comedy Theater? I don't know. I don't give a shit. This is for my father. Well, be that as it may. Nobody cares. You know, will Mo Amr say, leave his avails and say,

any room except the Menachem Dormant Comedy Cellar I don't know probably not they can call it the McCellar hilarious so I

that's not well this is exciting news I you know I look forward to seeing a beautiful new room I assume it'll be I assume you'll pull out

all the stops to make it a gorgeous new room I'm gonna try it's gonna have a mezzanine it should be pretty nice we're gonna have a merch bar. What's a merch bar?

To sell t-shirts. And hats. I don't know. This merch thing. Everybody keeps, for years, you need to sell merch. You need to sell merch. I'm sure it's true. It is true. We've been talking about it for years. Anyway, as I've said before, I'll say it again. I don't

know that it'll benefit me that much financially. I'll enjoy going there. I enjoy a beautiful new room. Do you anticipate a potential cannibalism of the other rooms, such that perhaps maybe you'll close down one of the fat black pussycat rooms and just shunt all the people there? I don't anticipate it in the short term. Long term, wouldn't surprise me. I would add that this room is going to be freestanding, so it could do other things. So like how City Winery does a lot of music

and a few comedy acts, we could do like City Winery has like a Beatles brunch. I own the whole building and there's no tenants. We could do music from time to time. We could do other things there. But yeah, if business contracts at some point, I could close. When do you anticipate starting construction? I already started the plans.

I got to go. I anticipate starting in like a few months. Oh, wow. Okay. Hey, John Marco. John Marco, you missed a big announcement, but we'll brief you. Sure. Noam, officially, you probably heard the rumors, but Noam...

I'm leaving you. I'm sorry. You were doing your podcast with Dan. Hey. Yeah, I don't know if you were looking forward to doing a podcast with Noam, but that's not going to happen. Okay. He got a last minute dinner invitation, but you have enough to talk about, I'm sure,

and you're wearing your Cosette shirt from Les Mis. John Marco is a lover of Broadway musicals. I know what we call those Jews. What do we call them? I don't know if Noam was making some kind of

joke about your sexuality or not. Sure, sure. That's to be expected. I've gotten it my whole life. You know how many people in high school I saw come out during acting class? All the time. I had this teacher, this guy who's having trouble with a romantic scene. He started crying.

15. 15 years old. And the teacher said, okay. He's like, I'm having trouble. I don't think I like women. And the teacher said, okay, that's fine. Do'm having trouble. I don't think I like women. And the teacher said, okay, that's fine. Do you like watermelon? He was like, what the fuck?

And he said, if you like watermelon, just pretend she's a watermelon. And that's how you connect to her romantically. And he did the scene again. And he nailed it. Amazing. And he fucked the watermelon. He fucked the watermelon. He's now married to a watermelon shaped woman.

I'll see you later. It's not because I a watermelon shaped woman. I'll see you later. It's not because I got a better invitation. I screwed up. I screwed up my plans and I can't not do what I have to do now. I appreciate you here for a second. You called me gay and then you left. That's a fun. Good to see you.

You wear a cosette shirt and you're going to get some pushback. Why? Thismarco is... Les Mis is a manly show. It's about the French Revolution. But also, you're trained as a theater person, aren't you? I went to college for musical theater. Yeah.

Okay. I knew I didn't get that wrong. And the fact that I knew that was Cosette perhaps puts me under some degree of suspicion. That is true. We should have pointed out. You said... I couldn't even... If you had asked me, I wouldn't even know it was Cosette. You didn't know it was Cosette perhaps puts me under some degree of suspicion. That is true. We should have pointed out. You said, I couldn't even, if you had asked me, I wouldn't even know it was Cosette. You didn't know it was Cosette? No.

I'm not, if I'm being honest. Yes, Cosette, forbid me now to die. I'll obey. You must be, you seem like you're a musical theater fan. I like Les Mis. That was great. I happen to like Les Mis a great deal. Did you see the

original Broadway cast? No, I saw the Broadway cast with Craig Schulman as Valjean because my friend Rene Glicker who used to work with Be a Waitress

at the comic strip was a college friend of his and then we went out to eat afterwards. So it was weird. We went to see the play and then I had like steak and eggs

with Valjean. That's incredible. But play, and then I had steak and eggs with Cheval Jean. That's incredible. But anyway, yeah. I like that play. How many times have you seen it? I've only seen it once. Okay. Do you want to give John Marco a proper introduction? John Marco, a proper introduction.

Is there cold water? There's regular water. Sure, I'll have regular water, too. John Marco Cerezi. Hello. This is not his first time on this show. Thank you. He's been here before.

He's a stand-up comic who's been featured on Comedy Central, Netflix, PBS. And his comedy special, Shelf Life, is available on Amazon. It was just nominated for three New York Emmy Awards. Interesting. And he'll be headlining the Blue Note Hawaii on the 3rd of November. We've got some time. Wait, wait. Where do you get that?

You sent it to me. I sent this to you? Yeah. I think this was last year. Oh, you've already done the Blue Note Hawaii. Yeah, you guys missed it. It was a great show. All right, so you're right.

So you tell us what's going on. I've got a podcast called The Downside, and I just got social media. I'm just like everyone else. I'm posting crowd work clips, me yelling at audience members. Okay, all right. Well, that's the thing. People post crowd work clips because they don't want to burn their material. Yeah, but these days, put your material too.

Who the fuck cares? No one's watching it. The world's fractured. You're going to burn it? That means two people saw it. What about my idea was, if you're going to burn it? That means two people saw it. What about my idea was, if you're going to do crowd work, why not put plants in the audience?

And do the most... I tried that. I did a crowd work where I kept bringing it back to my dad, and then my dad ended up being in the audience. You could choreograph the crowd work to make yourself sound like an absolute genius. Let's do it. Coming up with...

I'll be a plant for you anytime. You tell me the show, I will be a plant. the right joke. Like you tell me, like I have a killer joke about Belarus.

Okay. And then I say, so where are you from, sir? Belarus. And then I hit them with a joke that I've been working on for literally six months

about Belarus. I gotta learn the accent too. No, you don't because nobody knows what the accent is. Sure. A Belarus. That's fine. No one knows what the Belarus accent is. Could I be Cousin Sheila?

I guess. You don't have a cousin fucking? I mean, I have a Cousin Sheila joke, but it's not a joke that requires crowd work. It could be used that way. Sure. Anything can be turned into. So that's what I'm saying. I'm wondering why more people aren't doing that,

or maybe they are doing that. I think people kind of look down on it. I feel like some old crowd work comics were accused of that, and it was looked poorly upon. Well, who gives a shit? This is the new age. It's the new age where it's all about clicks and likes. Sure.

I mean, we can get down in the dirt. I don't think that any, I think that no holds are bar likes. Sure. I mean, we can get down in the dirt. I don't think that any, I don't, I think that no holds are barred. Sure. I just think it would be tough. You got it. You would both have to be really good actors to make it. And it's,

you got to make it not perfect. If it's too perfect, people go, it doesn't feel like it's real. The whole point of crowd work, the reason no one wants to watch this shit anyway, is because in the moment it's cool, because it was in the moment.

But then you film it, you edit it, you caption it. It's like, okay, this wasn't worth it. It was cool in the moment. You're shitting on the wallpaper of the room. But no one gives a shit on Instagram anymore. We're ruining stand-up comedy. It's possible. It's possible.

It's possible. And I'm at the forefront of it. Well, we are glutted, but we were announcing when you were walking in, were you here for this? Noam bought the McDonald's. I heard a rumor.

The rumor's confirmed. Noam bought the McDonald's on West 3rd and 6th Avenue. Correct. Free quarter pounders for all the seller comics. No, no. No more quarter pounders. No more. No, no more quarter pounders.

Just jokes served as you like them. The Menachem Dwarmen. It's going to be called the Menachem Dwarmen Comedy Theater. You may not remember Noam's father,

Menachem Dwarmen. It was before my time. I'm familiar. But he's the one who started this club, along with Bill Grunfest back in the 80s. Uh-huh. And that ends the reason why Noam owns the club today. So which comic is going to have the best

this used to be a McDonald's joke? And will it be you? Oh, well, I hadn't even thought of that. You know, I mean, come on. We're going to the McDonald's. We're all going to come up with some variation of the McDonald's joke. I always knew. My mom always told me I'd wind're going to the McDonald's. We're all going to come up with some variation of the McDonald's joke. I always knew.

My mom always told me I'd wind up working in a McDonald's. That's not bad. Not bad. Right off the cuff. Now, the question is, is how long before you can no longer really tell this would used to be a McDonald's? I mean, eventually it'll get stale. Sure. Unlike a Quarter Pounder.

Unlike a Quarter Pounder, which they keep in a special plastic film. But just like, which brings up a topic, I think COVID jokes are evergreen because COVID's a huge topic. I mean, COVID, you know, the Civil War. I mean, there are things that are so big you can always talk about them. But what I do have an issue with is when comics say, well, it's good to be back doing comedy, huh? And now you've heard that. Yeah. I won't mention names, but there's comics that are like, oh, well, we're back.

Thanks for, I mean, we, past couple years, we were doing comedy. No, for the past couple years, we've been doing comedy right here. You see those comics, now they're like, I did my first show since COVID. And you're like, what? Yeah. What? Still? Yeah. now they're like i did my first show since covid and you're like what yeah what still yeah you're sometimes i mean we first i mean we're in new york so there's some people here i did a podcast

a couple months ago and they were like so have you got a social situation still weird for you post covid and i was like get the fuck out of here they're just as weird as they were before how do you it's like yeah how do you you feel about Kennedy being shot at this point? Yeah, yeah. You know, COVID still exists, but as a thing, as a talking point, it's history, and we can reference it as history. Sure. And I will say in my act, during COVID, we used to do comedy on Zoom

because that's what happened. But I'm not going to say, well, it's finally good to be back on a real stage. I think about when I'm like 60 or 70, if I'm still alive. I suspect you will. Being on stage and doing that thing of like COVID. And for the youngins, COVID was this thing of ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, like that age where you'll have to explain it. Well, I don't know that COVID will have that kind of staying power.

Oh, for sure. It may or may not. Kennedy does. Obviously, it's going to tell any 10-year-old about John F. Kennedy or Pearl Harbor. The whole world shut down. But if you talk about the...

Yeah, you're right. I just wonder if it'll change the way we live our lives or if I had known. Like what am I going to tell my kids? Like just so you know, guys, the world could shut down. I've seen it happen before. Yeah. Yeah.

I've seen it happen before. Well, I don't know. Yeah. We'll see. It's like people who experienced a war have a different perspective than I do, you know, in my lifetime of like, oh. That's right. You could get sent to war. The fact that you can walk out of your house, go to a restaurant,

you take a little less for granted when you know that there was a time in history when you couldn't do that. That's right. That's right. It's like kids who were alive during September 11th. I mean, I think you do have a little bit of an appreciation of how, like, everything could change in an instant. All right, I'll go with that.

Yeah. I'll go with that. Yeah. I'm such a grateful person because 9-11, I count my blessings. John Marko, your podcast is called The Downside. Mm-hmm. How does it distinguish itself from all the other podcasts?

How are we distinguishing ourselves? I think we distinguish ourselves because we have the owner of the comedy cellar with us, except he's never here. I like to hear his perspective on things. Of course. He said before you got here, he doesn't know anything about comedy. Does he really mean that? Yes.

He knows how to book people that get laughs. He looks at a comic. And I don't know that booking, and I argue with him because I don't think it's quite this simple, but basically his philosophy is, are they getting laughs? Book them. Sure, but that's not true. There's hacky comedians who don't make their way into the cellar. That kill.

If they kill, they're coming. I don't think there's anybody that kills here that Noam's not booking. He kills here. But I'm saying, I know comedians that kill in a hacky way that somehow don't end up in certain places. Okay, because maybe they're not killing here. They end up making a lot more money on the cruise lines. They may not be killing here with this audience. Sure, sure. Maybe this audience is a bit more sophisticated because maybe they're not killing here. They end up making a lot more money on the cruise lines, but... They may not be killing here with this audience.

Sure, sure. Maybe this audience is a bit more sophisticated. Maybe they're not. I don't know, but... But anyway, the downside. The downside. How do you... How is the downside?

There's so many podcasts. How does the downside... What's the upside to the downside? I think it's just a real encouragement for whoever comes on to not feel that edge that we do throughout life

to be a little grateful or positive or like count your blessings. I really want a place where not just people can like share their dirty laundry or their failings,

but somewhere where they can really just be a piece of shit and know that me as the host, I'm going to out piece of shit them. So they don't need to worry about looking bad. I'm never going to say like, well, you know, remember, at least we get three meals a day. At least you have your health. And sometimes people, they comment on the podcast like,

oh my God, they complained about Sweetgreen running out of bread. They should be grateful. And I'm like, well, that's not what this fucking show is. You want that? Go home for Thanksgiving and talk about how grateful you are. That's not what my podcast is. The show is for people that are pissed. It's the opposite of Thanksgiving.

And don't mind sharing that they are pissed. Yes. And complain. You can complain. And about themselves. Like, you know, I had this thing recently where I have a thing with workout classes. CrossFit in some classes, you can take off your shirt. I think everyone should be allowed.

I think nipples, I'm a pro nipples person. And then I took a soul cycle class. There's no sign that says no nipples. And so I take off my shirt. And then the teacher very loudly to the whole class goes like, keep your shirts on, people. And I was humiliated. I was embarrassed.

And I go, you know what? What is this? What is this? How is this not connected? Why don't you cover up your shoulders? Why don't you cover up your belly button? Why don't we all put on sweaters? This is a class for sweating.

And I'm a hairy Jewish Italian man. I'm sweating. I feel disgusting. I'm drenched. What is me taking off the shirt to? So a lot of people will go, hey, buddy. Not a big deal. You can put your shirt on. And I go, no, no, no.

Who are you? The Catholic Church? Get the fuck off my body. I'm going to take off my shirt. And that's what the downside is, where I can at least say that without pretending that I actually feel right. First of all, I agree with you. There's a place for the downside. Sure. There's a place for the downside. There. There's a place for the downside. There's a place for negativity.

And it's on Gianmarco's podcast. And I'm happy to do it. If somebody who's got a lot of downside thoughts. We would love to have you on. Oh, yeah. Do you co-host it with somebody? So it's my good friend, Russell Daniels. He's a sketch comedian.

He's currently in Titanic, big off-Broadway hit show. Oh, okay. And he's very, very funny. We just have a good friendship. Is that like the Titanic, but a little... It's like a gay... I think it has gay in the subtitle, but it's like a celebration of Titanic.

It's narrated by Celine Dion, and it's like there's a RuPaul's Drag Race segment, and he plays Rose's mother, and it's belting and singing It's like there's a RuPaul's Drag Race segment, and he plays Rose's mother. And, you know, it's belting and singing and fabulous and very funny show off Broadway at the Daryl Roth Theater. Eight shows a week. Titanic.

Titanic. Titanic. I think your first crime was going to a SoulCycle class. You don't like spin? I want to try SoulCy sign. It's that vibe of... But that's, but everyone's naked already. Everybody put your shirts back on. It's like, oh, I thought this was like supposed to be like cool and chill and ride the fucking,

and no, I don't like spin actually. Well, I mean, no one does. The whole point of spin is to distract you from the fact that you're just moving your legs in a repetitive circle. No, I'll go so far. You're burning quite a few calories and getting that heart rate up. Sure. What do you do?

There are lots of ways to do that. What do you do for exercise? Cardio and resistance. You know, I don't, I mean, you know, a light amount, but. I feel like you're like Don Draper in Mad Men. You just pull open your drawer, take out a big springy thing, do like three of these. No, I go to Equinox because I enjoy their steam room.

It costs a little extra, but I enjoy the steam room. Without the steam room, I don't have the motivation to go. And you said my shirt is gay. Jesus Christ. I try to keep things G-rated in the steam room,

although I can't speak for everybody else. There have been a couple of times when I was a younger man, your age roughly, where somebody started masturbating. Really?

Yeah. At the Equinox? Not at the Equinox that I go to now, but another Equinox. Was it just the two of you in the room? It happened twice, and each time it was a different person, and there were two of us in the room. And was he making eye contact, or was he just like, I'm going to do this over here, do whatever you want to do? I don't recall the eye contact. He was stroking his hard penis, and I just left.

I probably should have said, what the fuck are you doing? And complained. They got him de-membered. Sure. If you will, by de-member, I mean not his penis cut off, but his membership revoked. Uh-huh. But, you know, he shouldn't be doing that. But I just left.

Were they hot? Were they good-looking guys? I mean, no, not to me. I mean, you know, I'm not going to say I never think a man is attractive. But for me to think a man is attractive, he's got to be very attractive because I'm not gay. Very attractive, yes. Like, John Markle probably is an attractive man, analyzing him. Sure, sure.

But I don't find him attractive. However, if you get to the level of a, say, a Jeff Dye. Jeff Dye, the comedian? The comedian. You could have picked like Brad Pitt or like a bottle. You just picked a good looking comedian. Well, because I'm talking a comedian. Yeah, sure. If Matt Rife came

out of here, I'd be like, holy shit. Matt Rife, I would say, yeah, that's kind of hits you over the head with a fucking baseball bat. It's kind of obvious. So you're saying that... I'm saying John Markle's just normal good-looking. So he is good-looking, but just like... I think so. You can't... I think he is.

But Jeff Dye, you would say? Jeff Dye, it's obvious. And Matt Rife is obvious. John Markle, I think girls... But are you attracted to Semitic men? I'm not attracted to you at all. I'm Semitic. I mean, some people like... What I'm saying is I think women would probably enjoy...

You're slightly goofy looking and you're tall and kind of... And I think... Nicole, do we have any thoughts on this? Yeah, he's got a great smile. Great personality. Thank you. Great personality. Great personality.

Oh, that matters. That really matters. To a woman, that matters. That really matters. To a woman, that matters. Sure, sure. I think it's just like some, like my girlfriend is really into like dewy looking guys. So like for me, like I am her, at least she tells me this, she could be full of shit, but that I am her, it's this kind of thing she likes. Me, Jeff Goldblum, Adrian Brody.

You know, for some people like Adrian Brody, that nose, they see that schnoz between their legs and they go, yes. Adrian Brody, who's actually half, I think, Catholic or something. Are you sure? No, Adrian Brody's Jewish. He's partially Jewish.

Yeah, he's like half something else. Okay, first off- But so is Gianmarco. Gianmarco, you're, what is it, half Italian or quarter Italian? No, I mean, my mom is Jewish. My mom is like Jewish, Jewish, Jewish. Okay, so by Jewish law, you're Jewish. But ethnically? Yeah, ethnically, my dad is somewhat Italian. I don't know. I've never done the DNA test because I'm scared it will be too little.

I mean, what if I found out I'm 2% Italian? But your dad's Jewish? No, no, my dad's something, but he's Italian. Yeah, his name's Cerezi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So how did he grow up? When he grew up, did he grow up with any religion? He grew up, I'm sure, just like I grew up, where his dad probably exaggerated his Italian-ness because it's some way for them to connect to their heritage.

And they like it. They like the feel. My great-grandpa was named Luigi, and he came from Italy. I know that, but that's it. That's all you need, honey. That's all I need. Luigi. So if you did a DNA at 23andMe, whatever, there would be some Italian in there. Just by the way,

getting back to Adrian Brody, he was born in Woodhaven, Queens, the son of Sylvia Plaschi, a photographer, and Elliot Brody, retired history professor. Brody's father is of Polish-Jewish descent. Brody's mother was raised Catholic, born in Budapest, Hungary, and is a daughter of a Catholic-Hungarian aristocratic father and a Czech-Jewish mother. So he's one quarter ethnically not Jewish. That's right. I've met him and his mom. She's a great photographer and a very cool lady,

I might add. First of all, I think that Adrian Brody is considered super like, super good-looking, like, across the board. Isn't he? Isn't he kind of like— I don't know, but I do remember once a girl saying that she thought Adrian Brody was good-looking, and I said to myself, advantage Natterman. Of course. And he's no Jeff Dye, but he's a good-looking guy. But any time if a woman says that they think somebody that's good-looking as a celebrity has some resemblance to you.

Sure. You know, if I ask, what actors do you like? If they say, Steve Buscemi, I think, is interesting-looking. Interesting-looking. Who's the hottest actor? If they say Ray Romano, I say, I got a shot here. Sure. Who's saying Ray Romano and Steve Buscemi ever in the history of the whole universe?

I've heard Steve Buscemi. I never heard Ray Romano. But I'm sure, I mean, look, Ray Romano and Steve Buscemi ever in the history of the whole universe. I've heard Steve Buscemi. I never heard Ray Romano. But I'm sure, I mean, look, Ray Romano's also very wealthy and famous. Women, thankfully, thank God,

I think are a little bit more forgiving of male imperfection, physical imperfection. Sure. You more often see, especially with age, you see, like,

attractive women with unattractive men. You don't see it as often the other way around when there's something, you know, a big gap. You know, who's the lead singer of the Rolling Stones? Mick Jagger. Mick Jagger. You see Mick Jagger with some hot young thing. You never saw Angela Lansbury with Jeff Dye. Well, I mean, is she still alive? I think she just died. No, she died last year. Angela Lansbury?

Yeah. Yeah. You know. She was kind of a bitch in real life. She was a bitch? In real life. What did she do to you? We were at the Brooklyn Botanical Garden bike fundraiser, and my friend and I went up to her, and're like, oh my god, we love you so much!

Yeah, she was 96. And she was like... She had two years left to live. What did you expect from her? She was not having it. I don't know. She was just not impressed. Listen, you can be great. This is a very long time ago, but you can be gracious about it, right? Yeah, but I think we can never

like, unless you really are that famous for that long, you can never understand, like, when you need to go to the bathroom and you still have to take the press pictures and you're going through a fight with your ex and someone's like, hi, and you're just like, please, no, I can't meet this energy right now. Too bad.

You fucking left the house. That's what you signed up for. Well, you fucking left the house that's what you signed up well I don't know that that's what you signed up for you know first of all you don't sign a contract saying I hereby bequeath all right title and interest to my personal life and private no this was at an event though this wasn't like going up to somebody at a table in a restaurant I agree I hear what you're saying this was like a public public thing. Like, we weren't some like... I think it's so easy. Like, celebrities either, oh, this celebrity was the nicest.

And like, what do you mean? They helped the door open for me. Or they were the meanest. What do you mean? They kind of said, hi. Like, the ability for these people to be either the best people or the worst people

is pretty small. No, but she was really a bitch. No, I'm just kidding. Like, if you said like yeah angela ansbury came to my house and put down my dog against our wishes i'd be like wow she sounds like a real piece of work listen here's the thing you have such expectations like i loved murder she wrote so much of course so you have these expectations and then of course people are just humorous. Was it Murder She Wrote on Sunday nights?

I never watched it. I was always so depressed on Sunday. School was starting. You didn't like school? No. I mean I liked after school and hanging out with my friends from school and Friday night

you know with friends from school. I liked the school, that aspect of it, but I didn't like going there. I didn't like waking up in the morning and going to school. Were you a good student? Yeah, I was a good student. So what was the time slot of Murder, She Wrote? It's like Murder, She Wrote.

I don't know anything about Murder, She Wrote other than she's in it. I think it was Sunday. Isn't there a song? I don't know anything about Murder, She Wrote other than she's in it. I think it was Sunday Night Night. What was that show? I don't even remember. I don't even remember what. Everywhere that bitch went, somebody got whacked. Was it Law & Order-esque?

I think it was like the predecessor to SVU, maybe. Did it get into her personal life at all? Was it ever like, oh, she has a boyfriend now? Or was it like, yes, I'm solving a case? I don't remember. I don't remember anything about it, actually. I don't even know why I wanted to say hi to her. Sure.

Sure. Dan, are you with us? I'm just trying to find out if it was Sunday night, because in my memory, it was Sunday night. She came to my school. She did a master class at my school, or like a Q&A. Was she awesome? She was fine. I mean, she was old.

She was old. But I was a big fan. I mean, from her musical theater days, Sweeney Todd. Her and Sweeney Todd is legendary. I think I saw her. I believe I saw her in A Little Night Music on Broadway. And she was excellent. Wow.

Her and then I saw Elaine Stritch. Wow. Two wonderful. After saw Elaine Stritch. Wow. Two wonderful. After 11 years on Sunday night, Murder, She Wrote moved to Thursday for the 95-96 season. 95 seasons? Yeah, I didn't know it went on that long. No. The year 1995 to 1996.

Yeah, the season. Yeah, no. Murder, She Wrote. She thought you were saying that it ran for 95 seasons. Oh, no, no, no. 95 seasons. Oh, no, obviously not. Not even the...

It's breaking every... Not even The Simpsons has been on for 95 seasons, although they might get there. Oh, my God. They might get there one day. I don't know. How old do you think she was,

dear Christ? Because she was... She's one of those, like... She was old when that started. Yeah, she was already old. She was already, like, one of those people that my parents would be like, oh, is that Angela Lansbury? That those, like, she was old when that started. Yeah, she was already old. She was already, like, one of those people that my parents would be like, oh, is that Angela Lansbury?

I was watching, like, Golden Girls. I've only seen, like, two episodes, and I'm like, Betty White is old in this old show. Yeah. And she, like, stayed that age for a long time. And she was the last one to die. Yeah. Yeah, and she almost made it to 100.

I think she died at 99. She kind of let us all down down as far as I'm concerned. I mean, I was really looking forward to 100-year-old Betty White taking the stage for her 100th birthday. I mean, she couldn't hold out another two weeks. Yeah. How hard could it be? Just, you know, you're this close. Just hold on.

Maybe you don't want to at that point. You want to get to that big 100. There's a neighbor in my... There's a woman in my building who's 100 years old. Yeah? And I got a joke out of it. God bless her. And did you throw a big party? Did you make a big fuss out of it? No, but I went upstairs. They said there was a sign in the

lobby. Happy 100th birthday to... I forgot her name. In my joke, it's Myrna. But in real... Because that's an old person. You had 100 years to learn her name and you couldn't learn her name. Well, I never knew. I never met her. Oh. I just saw a sign in the lobby.

It said, happy 100th birthday to whatever, Esther, Estelle, whatever it was. No, no, let's just call her Verna. It wasn't Brittany. I see. In apartment 6H or whatever the apartment was. So I said, if you want to drop off a card, drop off a card. Oh. So I went and got a card.

I never met the woman, you know. And I don't even think I could, I don't think there were any cards for 100-year-olds. I don't even know if you, I mean, I guess there are, but I didn't find one. You got one for a 10-year-old and added a zero. I could have done that. Sure, that would have been kind of cute. And then I went up and I knocked on the door and her maid, and I didn't meet her, her maid. She was in the room.

Jesus Christ, this is so sinister. She's a maid? Well, the woman, her, her maid. She was in the room. Jesus Christ, this is so sinister. She's a maid? Well, the woman, her nurse, whoever. Maybe she's not alive and the maid just wants a bunch of free cards and is faking the whole thing. I had someone die to my- But anyway, I gave the nurse, I said, I'm Dan from, you know, 5B.

Tell Estelle or whatever it was, happy birthday. Why didn't you meet her? I don't think she was well. I'm sure she's COVID cautious. Let me tell you someone who's still thinking about COVID. It's the 100-year-olds. But it's weird. I've had someone die in each one of my apartments.

It's suspicious. But it's kind of weird because you may have seen them once or twice, and then one day you go to your door and there's outside in the two stairs, there's like two candles. And a lot of times, someone died at my girlfriend's place and they left a letter. They said if any of you know this person's

next of kin, you know, the body was probably there for two weeks. Someone smelt it. And it's just like the number of people that die, it happened with my building too. Just a smell. I'm sorry, did you just gloss over and somebody smelled it? I just imagine that's how they found out. I would think it would take longer than

I mean, shorter than two weeks for people to be like there's something weird going on. I don't know. I'm not an expert in decomposition of corporal decomposition, but I don't think it takes two weeks. How long would it take for a smell to emerge, you think? I would think just a couple days.

Really? I would think so. Doesn't your body just sort of liquefy? I think it takes a little longer. Yes, at some point. I mean, let's say you poop yourself. Even that is going to stay within your apartment. It depends how big your apartment is, really.

This is a morbid conversation. I'd like to get a mortician on this show. That might not be a bad idea. Oh, I do know someone who worked at a morgue. It's actually the most listened episode of our podcast. It was horrifying. You've got to be ready for that conversation.

Tell us something. Lauren Petrie. How long before a body starts smelling? No, tell us something that the mortician does. Well, I mean, I would say after 45 minutes of soul cycle. It says 24 to 72 hours. I was going to say 48.

Post-mortem, internal organs begin to decompose due to cell death. The body begins to emit pungent odors. Rigor mortis subsides. I was going to say 48. Okay, so. This one's going. It's in there for two weeks. Two weeks?

Well, maybe if you use Old Spice. That could be an ad. Like Old Spice, they didn't find the body for two weeks. That's good. Not bad. That's good. Not bad. This is the downside.

This is what we're talking about. This is the downside. This is the kind of thing you might talk about on the downside. Not everything is happy in life. Yeah, this Morgon was tough. I mean, she shared a story that I actually moved to after the credits because I thought it was too horrifying about there was a man who died. Honestly, it's so fantastical.

But she says it's true that there was a guy and he had a dildo in his ass and he choked on a dildo in his mouth and they took it out and maggots came out and it was, it's that, that's what we're talking about here. It was in his mouth, you said. It was both. I mean, he had one, he was, he was filling them all. Oh. But he, but he died only because of the mouth one.

Why? He choked? Yeah. Was he by himself? I mean, I don't know. I imagine if he was with someone, they left. Yeah. Was he by himself? I mean, I don't know. I imagine if he was with someone, they left quite fast. Yeah, well, you know. How big were these dildos?

Big enough to kill a man. He couldn't pull it out? I mean, they asked him, but he wasn't able to answer. Uh-huh. I'm just saying, like, but, like, that's, if you want to have someone from a morgue, like get ready to talk about. Oh, I am ready.

Crazy, crazy shit. Yeah, because I mean, that's there every day. That doesn't sound like something's off there. Like if you have a giant dildo in your mouth and I'm not speaking from personal experience, but you can pull it out. Like there's no reason to choke on it. There might be something John Margo's not telling us.

You slip or you drop it or you... I don't know. Maybe he went too far in and he swallowed it. Sure. I mean, she... No, that doesn't make sense. If you swallowed it... There's some that aren't that big that might be you could swallow it.

But they said they pulled it out and maggots started coming out. They pulled it out when they got to her with pliers or something. Maybe yours are all the wall-attached ones, but we're talking about a portable one. You could choke on anything. I could choke on this. Cap, I could die. The cap, but not the whole bottle. Anyway, if you enjoy this kind of macabre talk, the downside is the underside, the underbelly.

The underbelly. What else might you talk about on the down? That's obviously I don't expect that every episode talks about something quite that horrifying. No, we talk about bad parent relationships, divorce, a lot of divorce. Are you a child of divorce? Child of divorce. Both parents have been divorced twice. Okay.

Yeah. And do you have any full siblings? No. I have four younger half-siblings, so two total. Okay. And is it close? We're close, but I always wonder. There's three on my mom's side, one on my dad's.

And I always wonder if the three on my mom's side. Are you the oldest? I'm the oldest, yeah, because I'm the only one from the first marriage. Yeah, he's the only child of that marriage, yes. In a way, I really experienced, because my mom had kids first, so at my dad's I was an only child, and at my mom's I was just one of a bunch.

And I think I experienced a real, like, you know, you get to feel that feeling of being only child. There is some research to suggest, and I think I've mentioned it on this show, but I'm not sure, that artists and performers are more likely to be the youngest child.

Sure. I guess I would have to look at that study. I feel like I got a warped world. And then there's other studies that say the birth order isn't that relevant, but I have read that, and in my own anecdotal experience, I know, for example, well, I'm the youngest child. Haruba Ray is

the youngest child. Oh, was this there last week? Well, I'm the youngest child. Haruba Ray is the youngest child. I was just there last week. Well, he's the youngest child. I'm an only child. You're an only child. Only may be a different category. Only's got to be tough. I just feel like you got to be the center of attention for so long that I just feel like it's, I don't know.

I have assumptions about only children. Like what? Like they're probably, they want to be the center of attention. They're very special. They're used to feeling, I mean, to get your parents full love compared to someone who's splitting it four ways, that's a very different experience to go through life. I don't think it's about splitting love. I think it is about splitting attention.

Sure. My mom split the love. Well, here's just something. According to the study, the youngest child has a born-to-rebel mentality that makes them more likely to be exploratory, unconventional, and tolerant of risk. And this theory is supported by the work of Dr. Kevin Lehman, a psychologist, and the author of the Birth Order book and the Firstborn Advantage. But that's just one study.

Is he still alive, that guy? How birth order in siblings affects success. This is from Business Insider. Firstborn children are more likely to be CEOs and other things your birth order can predict about your future. That's from Business Insider. It's so hard. All these studies. Who knows?

But there are studies that say these sorts of things. There's this big crisis in psychology called the replication crisis where they basically tried to recreate a lot of the classic psychological studies. And I think it was only one-third of them were replicable. And so whenever I hear this stuff now, I automatically go like, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Everyone came with the hypothesis they wanted. I just, it's hard to take any psychology like that big and sweeping seriously.

Well, you may be right, or there may be something to it. You sure? So basically I've said nothing. Yeah. But anecdotally, just asking people, I do think I see a larger percent. Just when I ask comedians, I think I do seem to see more youngest children than not. I think more what was affected was just this idea that I went to one house where my dad was like a bachelor. And maybe he'd have a woman at the time. And they would just shower me with affection.

And I'd go to my mom's where my stepdad was very strict and conservative and I had other siblings. And I think that disjointedness is what made me into whatever kind of cynical. I feel like every comedian, part of part of being funny is I think you just see things, you see the angle you're not supposed to see of things that, you know, you're not supposed to realize the people who run the school are full of shit. You're not supposed to realize the president's lying to you. And I think something has to happen to skew your vision where you see the world differently. I think that's where mine came from. I'd like, if I could, to end things, because we're almost out of the hour, as we began them with Les Mis.

What were Cosette's solos in Les Mis? She didn't say On My Own was Eponine. She's Castle on a Cloud, no? There is a castle on a cloud. Was that Gavroche or was that Eponine? Or was that Cosette? You're the one who literally sat with Jean Valjean. What did you even talk about?

Well, we didn't talk about this. We talked about how do you like your steak and eggs. Because that song Les Mis is... Here we go. I don't think Cosette had any great numbers. In my life, a heart full of love. I don't even know these ones. She didn't have any good ones, I don't think.

No, but she got the logo. She got the logo. She got the logo, yeah. It's a cool logo. Yeah, it's a cool logo. I have that t-shirt. You do? Yeah, my parents went to see Les Mis and got it for me like a million years ago.

I got it at a thrift store. You know who you'd be in that show? I'd be Thénardier, the innkeeper. Which was that? Yes. Master of the house. Yeah, with the... The Sasha Baron Cohen character. Yes, yes, yes.

Again, there's another Semitic man. Some people do go like, he is hot. And other people are like, Borat? And my girlfriend would be like, my husband? My husband? First of all, he's a brilliant comedic persona. So that would...

I think he used to model. I read somewhere he was a model before getting into comedy. First of all, you don't have to look anything up. Like, he's super hot, Sacha Baron Cohen. What does it mean? Like, you could say I used to model because I did stock photos. I just feel like there's a certain point where it's like. And you should say that.

Yeah, you're right. The word model is a very loose term. I was during Fashion Week. I was walking down the street. Someone came up to me and said, are you free right now to do a catwalk? Good. And I did a catwalk. Amazing.

With an hour and a half notice. No, you also used to model. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Get the word out. Doesn't Phil Hanley talk about that? Yeah, he made a living modeling. So I think. But I believe

he talks about like a very specific era of modeling that he called heroin chic. That's right. And that's like when his but very good looking. That was a time of heroin chic with Kate Moss in the 90s and all this. But yeah,

you 100% can put modeling on your sure really awful to call something heroin chic i mean imagine someone's like i'm fentanyl fat it's like it's just not these are very serious deadly drugs well i think in the 90s um you could say anything that is true and nobody fucking cared sure sure and that was a look that was um really heralded do you think it's possible for a woman like very skinny women like that was what everybody aspired to sure do you think it's possible for a beautiful woman to talk about being a model in stand-up comedy and and have it work i think i think anything can work but it's got to be i think what it is i think what happens right now you see a lot of especially in la very good

looking comics both men and women where they're go like dating is so hard and you're like shut the fuck up shut the fuck up everyone's swiping right on you shut the fuck up now if you're a model like i think like jesson does this really well, where, like, you go, like, I'm fucking good looking, and I'm going to own it. And I'm going to come off like a fucking asshole because of it. Then I'm like, at least you're being honest. But when someone gorgeous goes up and talks about, like— Is Jessalyn Nick model level gorgeous? I think Jessalyn nick was considered

like uniquely i always say it's for stand-up comedy the bar is much lower comedy no he's totally a good looking like cool like a a pretty okay startlingly startlingly hand against i see those pictures of john stewart outside mcdougall I'm like, whoo! Jon Stewart was fucking fine! What about Bobby Kelly? I haven't seen... Oh my god, you have to see the pictures of him, right Dan? Well, in the old days, yeah, he was very good looking But so you're saying

that Jesselnick was able to just make fun of it Not even make fun of it By being an asshole He's not pretending he's not or pretending that life is hard for him in asshole. He's not pretending he's not or pretending that life is hard for him in that way. He's never talking about that. I think in LA there's just a degree of good looking

people where you own it. You gotta own it. I think that's why people like Matt Reif. Matt Reif does not try to be like, I'm a little awkward too. He's like, I'm a little awkward too. He's like, I'm fucking stunning.

And he makes jokes from that perspective and I think that's why people are attracted to it. Good looking people like him. Is there a woman that's doing that? And would it be different if a woman tried to do that? I mean, I've never listened to any woman do stand-up comedy, but I'm sure there's

some. No, of course there are. I don't know. I don't know in that particular vein. I mean, I don't know that. I mean, there are several women who are very good looking, who are six, like, I mean, there's Nikki Glaser. There's Whitney Cummings. Sure, sure.

Chelsea Hansler. I mean, they're all like great looking, great bodies. You guys hate women. No, listen, let me make clear. You know what the problem is? You know the reason I'm hesitant? You guys are misogynists. No, the reason I'm being hesitant right now is I'm like,

every female comic I know is beautiful and gorgeous. I'm willing to be like, this guy looks like a schlub. This guy is really hot. When it comes to women, I'm like, well, I'm not going to sit here and be like, I'll tell you who's a fucking hottie. I promise that is part of my hesitation. In my head, I'm like, oh, well, this person's super hot, but then I'm like, ugh.

But then you're implying that somebody else might not be. Yeah, or then I'm just being like, or then where I'm going to come off as being like, I like this comic because of their big fat tits instead of their big fat jokes. Absolutely. Big fat premises. Big fat chunks. How far the mighty have fallen, huh?

That is true. Anyway, we are done with our hour with John Marco. It was great to have you back. And we do thank you. The Downside, wherever you can find podcasts. Wherever.

And it's on YouTube. People are watching these things these days. We have more views than listens. Yes, that's... Who knew that would happen? Who knew? Who knew? You know, when MTV came out, I said,

this is the stupidest thing ever. No, I really did. I said, why would you want to watch a song? A song is music. Music is audio. Why the fuck do I want to watch it? Especially since the video, I mean, I might watch a band playing. But why do I want to watch Pat Benatar, and I bring this up because I just saw the video, flying a plane into Nazi-occupied territory

to sing a song that has nothing to do with World War II. You make a good point. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. But I will tell you, there are songs out there that, when I love the music video, I like the song more. It attaches visuals to it. But I got caught up in it. video, I like the song more. It attaches visuals to it. But I got caught up in it.

Yeah, I do like the videos. I mean, I was wrong, in other words. I was wrong about everything. Instagram. You're like, Thriller, I don't want to see a zombie. The internet, the internal combustion engine, everything I said this will never work. And it's going nowhere. It is unique. You know, the Wright brothers

apparently had a hard time selling their idea for an airplane. They really did, because it couldn't do anything, really, at first. It could fly like 100 feet with one passenger, and they're like, what the fuck? Half the time they died. What the fuck are we going to do with this thing? Yeah. You know, I guess it's a fun little toy,

but I don't see a future for this. Is that true? I might be exaggerating slightly, but they did have, I think, a tough time. They were trying to tell it to the military. The military was like, eh. What do we need this for? You know, because the truth is the first plane couldn't do a whole lot. But anyway, Gianmarco Soresi, the downside.

And, you know, hit him up on all the social media. Please. At G-I-A-N Marco. Uh-huh. S-O-R-E-S-I. and you know hit him up on on all the social media please at G G-I-A-N Marco uh huh S-O-R-E-S-I S-O-R-E-S-I yeah

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