The Comedy Cellar: Live from the Table - Predicting the Future: Noam and Numerologist Carmen Harra

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

Dr. Carmen Harra is a world-renowned intuitive psychologist, best-selling author, radio show host, and relationship expert. Her new book, Plus One: the Numerology of Relationships is available now.

This is Live from the Table, the official podcast of the world-famous comedy cellar. Coming at you on SiriusXM 99 Raw Comedy, formerly Raw Dog. A change for the better, in my opinion, as Raw Dog was a little bit crude. This is Dan Natterman coming at you with Noam Dorman here, the owner of the comedy cellar. And Perry Alashenbrand is here with us. On the soundboard is our dear friend Max, who looks like a young Bob Dylan, but anyway, that's neither here nor there.

We have a guest coming in a bit. She's, I guess, a psychic. She's a psychic. Obviously, I mean, I'm... She's a psychic, though. We're having a lot of trouble getting her all the instructions. I'm skeptical. I don't know about Perrielle. Perrielle's not skeptical.

She believes in this kind of stuff. So she should be coming in about 15 minutes. So, Perrielle, you believe in psychics? Of course. But really believe in psychics? Yes. All right, go ahead. Go ahead, Dan.

Can we talk about last week? Oh, do you have any comments to make? I have a comment when you're all done. Well, last week, the Felicia Madison, Jeffrey Asmus episode. You want to go first, Peril? Should we summarize it briefly for those who are not? So last week, Felicia, you're good at summaries.

All right. We had a comic and a comic slash comedy booker from the West Side Comic Book. Natterman Notes, we called him. Go ahead. Yes. So they had a dispute

because the comic slash comedy booker posted some stuff that the comedian perceived as Islamophobic. Among other things, she posted a verse from the Koran, which I guess advocated violence. I think she said the Koran only. She said there's no peaceful verse in the Koran or something like that. Am I remembering it correctly?

I don't know if she said precisely that, but she either said or implied that Islam was an inherently violent religion. And so this comic, Jeffrey Asma, said, well, I'm not working at your club. And she said, well, or maybe she's, I don't know who started it. She called him Islamophobic. He called her Islamophobic. Yeah, he called her Islamophobic. And then she said, well, I don't know who. You don't like it, lump it.

You know, basically. And then she said, you're not working here. And he said, I don't want to work it, lump it, you know, basically. And then she she said, you're not working here. And he said, I don't want to work at your stupid club anyway. It's a shit club. I'm summarizing and paraphrasing. So that was a dispute. So so this the comic was a was a I'll say he was pro-Palestinian. And and but he seemed terribly uninformed when put under the. Go ahead. Well, I mean no. Go ahead, Dave. I'm not trying to stir up trouble.

Well, what is your assessment of his level? I wouldn't say terribly uninformed. I think there were certain things he didn't know, but I wouldn't call him terribly uninformed. But go ahead, Perio, what do you want to say? Oh, what I have to say is separate from this. You said you wanted to say something about this. I didn't know.

I said I also want to say something. Okay, so let me say the following. I'm feeling a little bit bad about it. I just saw Felicia last night, by the way. And? And there didn't seem to be any upset on her part. By the way, I think it's important to note that she said that she tried to apologize and he was not interested in accepting

her apology. When was that? Or here. She said that she didn't mean it, or she's not Islamophobic, or whatever it was. She walked it back. If you want to believe her walk back or not, that's a separate question. But she said, well, she didn't post that verse in the Koran to imply that Islam is violent, but just to start a discussion, basically.

All right. This is what I feel bad about. In the process, it came out, thanks to me, that she had texted me saying like, you know, why are you using this guy? He's pro-Palestinian and he's harassing me. He posted something like, you know, online on Instagram saying basically that, you know, the booker of the West Side Comedy Club is an Islamophobe or something like that. Now, I didn't realize that she worked for a corporate entity. So to maybe some extent, it's not my fault, but I knew that it was her idea to do the show.

And I knew that I couldn't in good conscience allow her to debate him on the incident and then cover for her about whatever text messages she sent me. That would be that would be, you know, putting my fingers on the scale. So I knew I knew and I and I asked her at the show, I knew I had, I would have to read out loud the text messages, but I should have known that the text messages would be very damaging to her beyond the show. And what I should have done was before the show suggested to her, listen, if you want to do the show,

you have to know that I'm going to, I need to read the text messages out loud and give her the option not to do it because now some comedians have gotten a hold of that and they're using it against her. And that was, that was foreseeable. If not to her, to me, I should, I should have seen that.

And I feel bad about that. Nothing I can do about it now. Max, what do you say, Max? I know you have some thoughts about it. Yeah, I mean, I just think she kind of, I think it's not a good look to be trying to blackball other comics just for personal beliefs and like other clubs so i mean she wanted to come on the show uh i just i don't know she she set herself up for it

kind of i think like whether it would have been good to give her a little bit of heads up on the on the reading the text but i don't know i think i think she was i think that was just like pretty out of line that she did in the first place. Yeah, I mean, I asked her, I was like, oh, can I read text messages? And she said yes, but, you know, it's all fun and games, right? It's a fun show, kind of like the Howard Stern show, they're fighting, whatever it is. But this is actually having some actual consequences for her. A situation would had,

it had died down again. It was her idea to do the show, but now it's come back and maybe worse. And I had a hand in that in some way and being the wise, the wise voice, I probably should have, I probably should have prevented that. So I'm, I'm feeling a little

Instead of turning the show into the people's court, you mean? Yes, Perry. So, and then to make matters worse, when the show ended, I asked Perry to make sure that they cut out all the Israel-Palestine debate because I was tired of getting trashed

about that. It's not relevant to the show. And of course, if you go online now, you can hear the entire Israel-Palestine debate because I'm tired of getting trashed about that. It's not relevant to the show. And of course, if you go online now, you can hear the entire Israel-Palestine debate. Okay, one second. I have to stop the comments on YouTube because I'm tired of being trashed. Okay. Or you can always just not read them. Here's the thing.

No, other people read them too. First of all, it's obvious that a lot of those comments are bots, but that's neither here nor there. Bots? You know what a bot is? Yeah, I mean, it's like a bunch of nonsense that is just like, it's not a real person.

Like, I read the comments. You think they're a bots program to place comments about me on my YouTube page? I think that, okay, I don't. These are not bots. Well, they're trolls. Trolls are not bots. Okay, fine. I think that, okay, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. Well, they're trolls. Trolls are not bots. Okay, fine.

Trolls, whatever. This is such a cliche. They're bots. They're trolls. Nancy Pelosi is bots. Okay, but this is neither here nor there.

This is what, this is, well, I misspoke. I meant trolls. This is what I want to say. Go ahead. Number one,

I, bots, go ahead, would like for you to do two things. The first thing I would like you to do is not be a jerk when there's a mistake made. Okay? Because it really gives me anxiety and it's fucking rude and it's totally counterproductive. Maybe I need a bot bots don't bots don't react to so i we spoke before i posted the felicia jeffrey podcast and we thought about what the title should be and then i put that title oh no no it's like i made a mistake

i didn't even bring that up i'm bringing it up because it's so obnoxious. Am I really fucking not giving a shit and just letting YouTube autopopulate our titles? Do you really not give me the benefit of the doubt at all? Well, it's not the first time we've had. It's the second time. I'm unaware. What happened? I go to the YouTube.

I'm like, we're not getting many views on this. I go to the YouTube page. So like, we're not getting many views on this. I go to the YouTube page. So we were getting a lot of views. And the title of the – no, I got comments. And views. We got a lot of views. Below our normal rate. Anyway, the title of the YouTube thing is the file name.

So basically what happened was – LFTT, blah, blah, blah. So what happened is... And this is similar to something that happened on Spotify. Okay. Very fucking occasionally, like the thousands of podcasts that I've

posted... I've never seen that in anyone else's podcast. First of all, you wouldn't see that in somebody else's podcast. You're not going through for that in somebody else's podcast you're not you're not like going through for errors in other people's podcasts anyway it obviously reverted back to like what youtube auto populates the title revert back you never put it in that's not true i certainly of course it doesn't save it it doesn't revert. Okay, well, that's not true. That's not true.

Why does every technologically semi-illiterate person I know think that there's ghosts in the machine? There are not ghosts in the machine. But people who are good at tech, nothing ever reverts. Okay, first of all, I've posted thousands of these for us, and I have fucked up maybe three times. Also, the title was terrible. It was not. Dan came up with the title and it was great. What did I come up with again? I'm sorry, never mind.

What was the title I came up with? Mixing business with politics. Terrible. What would you suggest? You don't get to do that unless you want to be responsible and you're going to answer in a timely fashion and title the episodes because dan and i speak and we're thoughtful about it

and you don't get to do that let me tell you why it was bad title i would also like you to say and the other part of it is. I'm sorry. Thank you. I accept your apology. And the other part of this is, is you oftentimes ask me to edit something out of the serious version of the show and leave the video as is, unless you personally edit the video. No, Nicole used to edit stuff out. Nicole's not here.

Right, but that's beside the point. He can, he,'s beside the point. Can I just say something? Why is it a bad title? Perrielle, what is the purpose of a title? To give the viewer or potential viewer insight as to what the show is about. Wrong. Max, what is the purpose of a title?

To get in the algorithm to boost the views to as many people? Closer. The point of a title is to get people to watch it. That's what I just said! Now, what is... What is... If you were gonna describe somebody about this show, like,

you gotta listen to this podcast, you would tell them this comedian says, you know, this, this, but then I suggest Booker V, Booker V comic. No,

this club, this club owner, but even if you had, it was a fence, this club owner tried to, to, to call out this pro Palestinian comic and take away his spots. That,

that's what you would tell them because I'd be like, holy shit, that sounds good. Business's what you would tell them because I'd be like, holy shit, that sounds good. Business versus, what was it again? Mixing business with politics. Yeah, mixing business with politics. You're saying it's a little too broad? You want to try to indicate to them a club owner tried to cancel a Palestinian comic.

Not a Palestinian comic, a pro-Palestinian. A pro-Palestinian comic and a Donnybrook ensued. You know, like you want to try to entice them. So this is a problem with a lot of our titles. Do you understand there's a billion videos out there? You want to cut through. So, you know, I would... You know what?

This is really helpful because this is constructive not i'm really at a loss here like so dramatic so what should the title of this episode be well well now you saw what just happened here now what would you how would you title this dan it's dan's job well it's not my job to title it. You text me periodically and ask for a title. Well, we have to wait until it's over because we don't. Oh, just this segment. Just this segment.

Dumping on Periel as usual. I don't feel dumped on. I feel actually quite vindicated. That's great. Anyway. I'm feeling bad about Felicia. So first of all, I do think it's important that you acknowledge the fact that Felicia

keeps saying that she wasn't trying to get him quote unquote not to work there because of what he said about Israel-Palestine. She said that she was upset because he was trashing the club. Well, I read the text messages.

That was definitely part of what she said. And that's why I corrected somebody on Twitter. I said, listen, be fair. She was getting trashed personally. And she was upset about the politics, and she apologized on the show. So, you know, it's not fair to just drop two out of the three of what I think

are the relevant facts. Nevertheless, you know, comedians are going to see it the way they want to see it. People get upset. This is the hot button issue. Yeah, I get it. All the way around. You need to see it the way they want to see it. People get upset. This is the hot button issue. Yeah, I get it. All the way around. People need to let it go.

I had a recent video. If we're to finish discussing this. Yes, we are. I had a recent video on TikTok that was taken down or violated community guidelines. What now, Dan? Well, that's the first time it's ever happened. Can we show it on the show? You're looking it up.

But Instagram didn't take it down, but TikTok did. Now, what is the nature of the offense? Would you want to see it, or should I describe it? Well, I'm killing time while he finds it. Okay. We've come a long way in this country, because when I was a kid, gay America was in the closet, okay? And trans America was an insurance company.

So I'll just... And there was an airline back then. Anyone remember Transworld Airways? They went out of business, but I don't think they would name an airline Transworld Airways today.

What about Transphobe Airways? Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking, and you know what I mean by ladies and gentlemen, all right? Oh, I got to spell it out for you. You got to cock, you're a gentleman.

Anyway, we do expect an on-time takeoff. You got to be careful, because somebody could just take the part where I said, you got to cock, you're a gentleman, without any of the context, and they put it online, and then it goes viral and I have a career.

Alright, that's it. Is that one of the videos we produced? No, that's just... They sent me my set after the show and I just cut it up. That's excellent. Oh, thank you.

But obviously we know why it got taken on. I obviously we know why it got taken off. I'm not sure why it got taken off. Because the Chinese are very trans... I guess because I'm saying you got a cock, you're a gentleman. The very part that I said, well, if you took it out of context, it would upset people is probably the part. It probably got...

I mean, I don't know if there's like an algorithm that looks for things or if somebody reported it, but in any case. Well, TikTok is, you know, for younger, generally younger crowds, so maybe, I don't know. There's no rhyme or reason. You know, but I- My wife's practically banned from Instagram. I think I clicked like a peel, but nothing happened.

But anyway, whatever. You know, it's a hot button issue, so I was hoping maybe we'd get some traction, but it got pulled. But how did you do on Instagram? Okay, not amazing. Is it on our Instagram? No. Well, we have like a million followers. I mean, why don't we...

Well, because it's not up to me what goes on your Instagram. Yeah, but we produce it, then we put it on our channel. Okay, so... Can you send it to Liz and we'll put it on our channel? Okay, fine. Does it... You should... Well, because I just figure that...

I don't know how the process works to get shit on your channel. Speak up for yourself. Listen, what you should do is you should take it off of your Insta and do a collab with the seller. You can't do that... Okay, take it off.

...actively. That's right. Take it off. That's right. And do a collab. Ask Liz. She'll tell you how to do it. That's a first-class clip. We need that. That's right. And do a clap. Ask Liz. She'll tell you how to do it. That's a first-class clip.

We need that. It's great. Okay. It's hysterical. You're very funny, Mr. Natterman. Oh, thank you. And a little transphobic. No, he's not.

What else while we're waiting for Dr. Hara? Carmen Hara, right? Yeah. She's so nice. I spoke to her on the phone today. What country is she from? I'm not sure. I didn't ask. Hara. Carmen Hara, right? Yeah. She's so nice. I spoke to her on the phone today. What country is she from? I'm not sure. I didn't ask.

What else, Dan? Well, I've joined the 2020s, and I got a subscription to Apple Music instead of buying songs one at a time. I think I mentioned this to you. Why not Spotify? Well, because Apple just sent me like, hey, sign up for...

And so I just click, because whatever. Okay. They're the first ones that got to me, and I just sent me like, hey, sign up for, and so I just click because whatever. Okay. They're the first ones that got to me and, you know, I just say yes to the first one that comes. But, um, so now I have access to 80 trillion songs. Yeah. Which is all fine and good, but now I got to find songs I like. This has actually pushed me for the first time in my life to search for music and a

hunting I have gone in search of songs that i'm not tired of um most people listen to the same 50 songs over and over well but i don't want to do that you know if i'm going to pay a whopping ten dollars a month i'm going to get my money's worth and hunt and search and i have found some gems they're gems for me they may not be gems for anybody else, but I have discovered, I ventured into the waters of country music, into the muddy Mississippi waters of country music. Folk. There's a great song by Tracy Chapman

that I never knew about called Sub City. Any of you ever hear of it? Didn't you go to college with her? Yes, I did. No, I didn't, yeah. Anybody ever hear of Joan Armatrading yes yeah this chick's a beast

yeah she's great it's old music what's that it's old music is this $10 a month yeah it's old music but it's new to me you know

they sucked the blood out of the music industry didn't they used to be when I was a kid when I was a kid in the 70s an album cost

six seven dollars for 10 songs. Yeah, but usually only like one or two. Right, but I say, you bought and you'd buy hundreds, if not a thousand record albums for $7 a pop

of 1979, 1978, whatever dollars, right? Which is like 30 bucks. Now, you have every song for $120 a month, a year, which is what in 1979? Which is 30 bucks maybe in those 20 bucks? Like, it's absurd. And that money has to be spread around everybody.

It's, I mean, who knows? I'd like, we may mask, look it up. How much less money is being spent to buy music than used to be? Uh,

yeah. The only advantages is that people might be listening to artists like I'm doing that they otherwise wouldn't have listened to and discover them. And not that I'm going to go to their shows, but I don't know. Aren't they all dead? No. No. Tracy Chapman's certainly not dead and Joan Armatrodding I don't think is

dead. I don't think she's dead. There's a bunch of others that just too that I mentioned. They got to make it on personal appearances I guess nowadays. There are certain things. Max? Spotify pays three-tenths.

No, that's not a tenth. Of a penny. Right? Oh, maybe of a penny, yeah. Yeah, per stream. Per stream. Yes, hold on one second. Yeah, three-tenths of a penny.

Yeah. That's crazy anyway so I meant the total number so that's the music business it's one of these things that there's a few things which nobody sees coming

and the bottom just drops out of something. Music business, I have friends who were heavily invested in pay phones. I know people who bought taxi medallions before Uber, right? It's like you just never know what's going to happen. But this is one I don't think anybody saw coming. And I guess movies are still making money, right? I don't know what's going on with movies. Not quite in the same way, but...

I don't know what's going on with movies. I'm not a psychic, but I think we're having trouble with the... But, I mean, the musicians couldn't kind of band together and say, you know, this is... I mean, I guess not a psychic, but I think we're having trouble with the... But, I mean, the musicians couldn't kind of band together and say, you know, this is... I mean, I guess not. I mean, is there like ASCAP or something? Or the record companies that just say, no, no, no, we're not giving it away.

You know, you got to pay us per stream some reasonable amount. It is apparently a very controversial issue in the music business, but I guess they don't have the leverage. I mean, if they... Prince... I think Prince wouldn't let himself be streamed or something. Prince fought it for a long time, but I guess if they all banded together...

The thing is, they also don't own their publishing, a lot of them. But the record companies can band together. That's a lot easier to do. There's less of them, and they have a lot more power. Yeah, it's not clear to me whether the record company, which has an aggregation of all the music,

many of those albums would lose money. Like, you know, I'm not sure if they get hurt as badly as the individual artists. I'm not sure how that works. But I'm sure the record companies take a hit also.

You know what? I don't know what I'm talking sure how that works. But I'm sure the record companies take a hit also. You know what? I don't know what I'm talking about because the artists get streamed. But whatever it is, obviously, it's crazy. I mean, you can work backwards and know that you used to spend, everybody individually used to spend

hundreds, many of us spent $100 a year. And now it's, you know. Anyway. Okay, we're joined by Carmen. joined by Carmen. How do you do? Carmen Hara, the world renowned intuitive psychologist, relationship expert, bestselling author, radio show host, and TV personality. And we welcome her among us via the miracle of teleconferencing. How do you do tonight?

Me? I'm doing great. Oh, good. We're good to have you here. Okay, so you are both a trained psychologist and a psychic? No, I'm intuitive. It's an ability of the brain to transcend, to bridge the two levels of the brain, the left hemisphere with the right. So, you know, there are two glands on the top of the head that can connect the two hemispheres. It's the cognitive mind.

You operate on the cognitive mind right now. Yes. And there's the subconscious mind. So if you bridge the two levels, then you use something that is called intuition, that ability of the brain that everybody has. And some people call themselves psychics, but they don't know exactly why they call themselves psychics.

And I'm giving you that sort of medical explanation. Why, you know, it's possible to connect and be more intuitive if you want to be. It's your decision. So you're not a psych. You don't believe in like supernatural powers. No, I do believe in supernatural since the dawn of time. We believe in like supernatural powers no i do believe in uh supernatural since the dawn of time we believe in the supernatural and i do believe that they're divine and that there is a way to connect with a force beyond the cognitive so there there is a divine energy that exists

within ourselves actually so okay so let me per, what's the matter with you? All right, listen. So I'm very interested in this stuff. And I'll be honest, put my cards on the table. Well, you probably know this. I'm skeptical of... I'm skeptical too, so... Yeah, but that's fine.

But I respect. So, and also you're a trained psychologist. Yes, I have a degree a trained psychologist. Yes, I have a degree in clinical psychology. I studied medicine at Cornell and now I'm a student at Harvard so I'm studying medicine at Harvard too right now. H-A-R-V-A-R-D, Harvard?

Harvard Medical School. Yeah. So that's fascinating too. All right, so let's take... I'm fascinated with medicine because I do believe that we should know more about how to treat ourselves beyond the system,

you know, the billion-dollar system. And you believe in numerology. So this is what I want to know. I believe in numerology because it makes sense, you know. It's the timing of our life. And, you know, you cannot see the world without numbers. Everything connects with a form of energy that is translated in a number. I've studied numerology 30 years ago in New York with a Harvard professor, with a mathematician, and he made me really believe in the power of numbers as defining, you know, our life in many respects so so let's let's let's talk about a little bit how this all

comes together in our lives and what we can learn from that so let's take let's just take something that everybody has in common uh many people i'm married so first question would be in my mind i feel pretty jumping guys does it matter the date that I get married? The numerology matter? Cause I know like some like Chinese traditions, it does. Everything matters when it comes to the time, everything matters. So it depends which day you get married. It depends which personal year you get married.

It depends which pinnacle in your life you get married. It also depends what kind of an archetype you have and what kind of an archetype your wife has so what are archetypes are you really a match tell us what archetypes are well first so first what's that hold on what's up at a time so maybe you start with archetypes we'll get back to the to the dates because there's a day we get married there's a date of our birthdays there's a lot of dates, right? Okay. The date we, but archetypes are defined by numbers, but also archetypes. It's a term in psychology introduced by Carl Jung. Carl Jung was inspired by Plato the same time with Pythagora created the Western numerology. That

is the foundation of the bank accounts today. So the foundation of numbers. But by the same time, 2,500 years ago, two Greek philosophers on one side was Pythagoras and the other was Plato. They both defined this concept, and I tried to put it together. So when you say Pythagoras, you mean we call it Pythagoras. That's what you're referring to? Yes. Okay, go ahead. Pythagoras.

Pythagoras. In the Greek, the way you pronounce it, you know it would be Pythagora. I mean, it depends on the accent. No, no, I'm not correcting the pronunciation. I just wanted to make sure I understood what you were... What matters for the people listening is that Plato created the theory of forms. And Carl Jung, the student of Freud,

developed the concept of a form into the human archetype. A human archetype defines who you are, defines your personality trait, your capacity to love, your weaknesses, your strength. Everything about who you are is defined in your human archetype. Now, the question is, are you a match with your wife who has a specific archetype, may be very different than yours. It may or may not be energetically a match, and that explains that out of the 100 marriages, 50, more than 50, end up in a divorce. Well, my wife's Puerto Rican,

so you could probably predict her archetype. That has nothing to do, but it has something to do. She must be beautiful Puerto Rican women. They tend to do an archetype. So how do we analyze our own archetypes? And give us some examples of some archetypes. If you're a number one,

let's say people don't understand how you are a number one. You take the month you're born, the day you're born, the year you're born, reduce everything to a single digit. And let's say you come up to number one. You're number one,

you're a very independent, you have a hard time committing to somebody, you go to numerous divorces. Larry King, the famous Larry King, he was married seven times, he was the number one. Wait, how do you reduce it? What do you mean reduce it to a single digit? How do you do that? So you add up, you add up. Like I'm born March 25th, so two plus five is a seven. March, March is a three. Three plus two, five, which is a seven. Three plus seven is a one.

Zero doesn't exist in numerology. Zero is a multiplier. And you add the one to the year when I'm born, and the year is reduced to a single digit. So let's say you're born in 1960. One plus nine plus six plus zero doesn doesn't exist will equal a seven. And seven plus one is an eight. So that means you are number eight.

If you're number eight, you're a workaholic. Eight is money. 2024 is money, because two plus zero plus two plus four equals eight. Eight this year is the year of revolution, the year of restitution, the year of earthquakes, the year of Republicans taking over the Democrats. It's a year that brings a lot of stuff because it's a number that has a lot to do with money. So I'm just giving an example in which way a number addressed to the year you are in has a lot to do with everything that's happening in the world right now. So even the fact that two zero two and four is a feminine number has to do with Trump running against Haley and not to a man. So the fight between the man and the woman has a lot to do with 2024.

On top of it, Trump losing in front of a woman in court has a lot to do with 2024 because it's a feminine year. Now, here's a here's a question. court has a lot to do with 2024 because it's a feminine year. Now, here's a question. This is a skeptical question. There was a time on planet Earth when people used a different calendar. Absolutely, I agree with you. The numerology, like let's say they're using the Jewish calendar,

would it be the Jewish numbers they added up to? Or was it always the Roman calendar, but they didn't know what the numerology was? But I don't know if, you know what I mean? You go back to the ancient Kabbalah. That's a different story. I'm only analyzing from the point of view of the Greeks. I'm only, the different numerology, the Scaldean numerology, the Vedic numerology.

So we're going into different systems of calculating time. I'm applying to the Western numerology. I'm not talking about the ancient teaching of Kabbalah, but Kabbalah is the essence of everything. I'm a very convinced Jewish woman. You know what I mean? I believe in Kabbalah. You're a Jewish woman?

Yes. But you're not born... Jewish. Where are you originally from? I was born in Romania, but there are a lot of Jews in Romania. And there are... You know what I mean? We are very...

You're born Jewish in Romania or you're converted to Judaism? No, I converted to Judaism. My husband was from Israel. Yeah. I see. So now... So when you're doing therapy, let's say couples therapy, No, I converted to Judaism. My husband was from Israel. Yeah. I see. So now, so when you're doing therapy, let's say couples therapy, if two people come in and you get their numbers and you're like, oh, no, no, this was, this should have never

happened. Do you, do you say, save your money, your number, just get divorced. I used to do couple therapy in New York and I met Jennifer Lopez in 2003 and she was involved with P-Daddy. And I told her, you know, three is a four. Forget about it. Run away from me with the spirit of life or something bad is going to happen. And that's exactly what happened between Jennifer and P-Daddy. Then I was the one telling her 20 years ago that her husband now is actually the real soulmate because they

are a match. She's a three, he's a six. That works. They work together. You know, so you have to understand what works and what doesn't in the energy field. And it has nothing to do with Western numerology, Caledonian numerology. It has a lot to do with the energy we are born of. You know?

Years ago, this is a funny story. Years ago, an ISB musician, Mark Anthonyony i don't know when he was with jennifer lopez at the time and he came down to the cafe while and we were all hanging out me and some musicians were hanging out in front with him and it's good and then the phone rings and it was jennifer lopez on the phone and he's like oh god you know like jennifer lopez he's like and he's like, yeah, honey, I'm with the guys. Like, he's just bullshitting her. Like any dude with any number three. She must have been a number three.

I'm going to tell you, he's a five. So Mark Anthony's a five. She was a three. Oh, you don't have to tell me. Three and five, a transition that's not going to last. So I had somebody from Us Weekly after she got married to Marc Anthony and I said, no way this is going to work. It might work for a period of time.

It lasted seven years and it fell apart because three and five are not going to be a match in time, just temporary. It's a transitory relationship. Can I just clarify how this is calculated? The numbers in my birth, they add up to 18.

So does that mean I just add the eight and the one and get nine? Is that how they would? One plus eight is a nine. So you're a number nine. I'm a nine, yes. You're humanitarian. I'm a humanitarian. Yeah, you like to help the world.

People don't really understand you because you're very deep. In a way, you can be an introvert. I don't know if you see that about yourself you have a hard time uh you hide things about yourself but you love to do good well yeah i hide a lot of stuff but i do hide but i'm well i certainly hide some stuff we were talking about a threesome i had in aruba a few weeks ago but i didn't hide that. I'm a six. I love the six. The hopeless romantic. That's no more right.

These are the people that I love of the world. Wait, how do you do this? We got to figure that. Let me ask you some more questions. Now, what else can you tell us from this? Can you tell us, do you have any insight into who's going to win the election by the numerology? Well, you know, this year is the

year of surprises. This year, everything we expect is going to happen completely opposite. What I know for sure, the Democrats are going to lose this election. That I know for sure. But I'm not convinced that Trump will be our president. So I don't know what's going to happen here, because the way it looks, it looks like it's going to be Trump against the Biden. And it's obvious that Biden is going to lose. The problem is, is Trump going to be our president? The answer is no. So then what's going to happen? The unexpected. This is the year that's going to surprise us, starting with the month of March, with everything we cannot even imagine is beyond our

imagination that's why it's called a karmic year this this year brings back everything that could have happened in time like this year is the year of the dragon and is the year of Karma so which means repetition of the things that happen if we go back in 195, 1952 was the karmic year and was the year of the dragon. And you guys, do you remember what happened in 1952? What was the major element of 1952? Putin was born, Queen Elizabeth became queen, the Republicans took over the Democrats, the biggest earthquake took place in California. We discovered the atomic bomb. So events like 52 are brought back in this year, shaking humanity. So things that we can't watch and see what's going to happen in Russia in March.

Watch and see what's going to happen through the course of the year that totally will blow my mind. Plus, this is the year when people are going to march in the street and express their dissatisfaction, their pain. It's like the year of revolution and justice. This is to define 2024. Not to be,

but it wasn't the atomic bomb or maybe the hydrogen bomb. Was there a hydrogen bomb? High hydrogen bomb, yeah. So, okay. So now, so Trump's not going to be president. I think we, all right. So Trump's not going to be president. I think we made news here tonight.

Trump is not going to be president. But it's not going to be Biden either. It disappoints a lot of people who love Trump. But it's been the unexpected. I don't even think Trump wants to be president, to tell you the truth. He might look like this. I know what he wants. So you know what's happening within Trump.

He doesn't want to be president. He wants the satisfaction. Got it. You know what's happening within Trump. He doesn't want to be president. He wants the satisfaction. Got it. You got it. You got it. Of winning after they did. So now, what did all this tell you about COVID? Were you expecting COVID?

What kind of insight did you have into COVID about? Do you think COVID was a natural phenomenon? Do you think it was created by man-made? What do you what do you man man made i mean a lot is man-made money's man-made covid is man-made illnesses are man-made suffering is man-made banking system is man-made everything is man-made and the deeper you know very uh how should i say we don't really bring the divine within this world that's why this world is in so much anger, trouble, you know what I mean? Conflict and war.

But you mean man-made in a laboratory? Yeah, man-made in a laboratory, 100%, 100%. And what would you say? This will be revealed that this is man-made will come to the surface. Probably by people

who were years of the dragon? Maybe. In China? Anyway, so you believe COVID was man-made, and that's based on what? Your insight into karma? I'm interested. Explain the thinking that brought you to the conclusion that COVID

was man-made. It's not something you read in the New York Times. COVID is a karmic disease. Diseases that are karmic. Diseases that come back. If you go back 100 years ago, there was another big, what was the... The flu.

1918. So events keep on repeating karmically big, what was the... The flu, 1918. Spanish flu. So events keep on repeating karmically around the 100 years. Watch and see what's going to happen in 2029, going back to 1929, when the crash happens. So we rapidly go towards the collapse

of the monetary system, in which we will eliminate the cash and we'll only have the electronic monetary system in the years ahead. The fall of the bank is, you know, I said all of this in my first book 25 years ago. I talk about the collapse of the banking system. All the problems we're facing today are actually mentioned in my first book. So you are heavily invested in Bitcoin then, I would imagine? I will not invest in Bitcoin because that's also something that is not going to work.

There's like a system that is going to be put in place in the next two, three years that is not yet established. All right. So tell us, karma is something that we all think about a lot. We'd like to think that if we do good things, that good things will happen to us. I guess we rationalize if bad things happen to us. Maybe, like something bad, if bad things happen, when bad things happen to me, I assume that my wife has bad karma karma and this is the way God's going to get even with her. But I'm just like a tool. But can we judge based on our own good or bad luck whether we've been good or bad people?

Is that a good? No, no. Karma is a very complex concept. It's the totality of your action, of your thoughts, of your intentions. Thoughts, even your thoughts. But there's personal karma, there's family karma, the family you're born into. Sometimes, you know, you carry the family karma on your shoulder and you see a lot of bad stuff happening to you, but you're a good person.

You did nothing wrong. But that karma will manifest karma also classified into your physical uh into your body so diseases are karmic karma also means repetition is way more a complex process than the newtonian concept of what goes around comes around so not only okay i did a lot of good stuff and yet bad is continuing happening to us look at humanity the karma of mankind whatever mankind has created for thousands of years has a payback now so we pay because you used to say the karma is the law of restitution and 2024 is the year of restitution and the year of justice and probably by the end of the year

people will understand what i'm really talking about you may not get it right away but this year will reveal what karma means in terms of repeating things that happen already okay can i say one question so i know the answer to this before? Because it matters. Do you believe in the concept of a soul? In other words, because what I was thinking, and then I'm going to get to Dan, like, you know, children die young.

And what you're saying is, sounds very unjust, that somehow his family or somehow he's suffering, the child that dies young, that gets cancer or something, is suffering for the karma of other people. But maybe his soul is going to pass on to a happier existence more quickly. So maybe it's not so terrible as it seems to us.

So do you believe in the concept of an afterlife and a permanent life of a soul? Absolutely. I believe in afterlife. And I also believe that if you leave this earth and go in a higher dimension and you left things are resolved You might be tempted to come back because we are form of energy and Einstein used to say energy never dies So you can come back in the flesh and finish the business you never finished So and also believe that your numerology will tell you how long you live So on your numerology is a very clear indication how

many years you're going to spend on earth and it also shows you when do you have a point in your destiny when it's most likely that you're going to exit this world so it's fascinating to understand numerology and know how you will go through your life and when is the moment when you need to be careful of something happening to you and how can you if there's any way to prevent things from happening so that's why i'm i promote this science because it's a science and it's interesting for people to get much more out of it most likely finding out your longevity it's i think to me is interesting to know how long you're going to be on Earth. Go ahead, Dan. Well, I just wanted to know if you'd be willing to come back at the end of the year.

Yes. To discuss what you had. I'd like to come back sooner on your show. Watch and see. Well, we'd like to after the election, you know, you had some interesting predictions about the election. So we might want to have you back to recap. Yes, I would love that. I'm very grateful for you having me, guys.

We're enjoying this. I want to ask, of course, we don't let anybody off the show now without asking about the Arab-Israeli conflict. And what insights does your expertise bring to that conflict? Do you see what karma means? You just look at the Middle East conflict, which I predicted on Fox 25 years ago on a TV show. I said that that's actually the beginning, you know, of the so-called Third World War.

So this is where the danger is, you know, for the world to expand war. And this is another thing that is very concerning for humanity. And what's happening here goes back to a fight that exists for thousands of years. That part of the world originated war. War goes back to the Middle East. That's what war was created originally. And Earth has karma and something that happened in a specific time of of the earth will repeat again like first world war happened one place second one in the same place so when things keep on repeating but there is a danger with the war over there is a

danger that this war will expand and become something bigger i don't want to give bad news to everybody let's just pray that that's not going to give bad news to everybody. Let's just pray that that's not going to happen, you know? Now, I mean, this doesn't sound good for the Jews, does it? I mean, a lot of bad things keep happening to us. Yeah, I don't know why it's happening to us because we're such good people and we don't deserve it. According to you. I support the Jews and I really want the Jews to be fine. And I think they will be. Oh, that's good. I want everybody to be fine, but I'm not following.

Yeah, I want everybody to be fine. I agree with you. Don't get something wrong. I apologize. It doesn't seem good. Our karma doesn't seem good. Okay, Paria, you have some questions? No, I actually, hi.

Hi. Hi. I was actually really interested in what you had to say about israel but you already asked her and also i think it's interesting that you're from romania and your husband was israeli yes all right so okay so i i i new york actually you what israel and moved to new york you lived in new york sorry new york moved to so okay so before we go i i i brought up your website here and i'll there's some uh there's a lot of the new book out by the way she wants to what's the name of the new book the new book is called plus one the numerology of relationship ah okay so So it's related to this. So on the website,

you have lots of videos here. I didn't watch them, but I'm looking at the names, but the website is chock full. So everybody should go to her website, CarmenHara.com, C-A-R-M-E-N-H-A-R-R-A.com. So a little bit here you go.

Signs of a toxic relationship. What are the signs of a toxic relationship? You know, when when there's toxic relationship, really dangerous, in my opinion, because people argue so much, there's so much bickering, there's so much disagreement and there are relationships that are toxic all the way from the beginning. And and you look like Kim Kardashian and Kenya West. That was a toxic relationship. And there's no way to fix it. You just have to run away with the speed of light

because it ends up very bad. It becomes aggressive, abusive, and nobody should stay in a toxic relationship. If you feel that you guys, you cannot reach common ground and you cannot act with compassion and love and in alignment and agreement with each other, then put an end to it. There's no way of staying in a toxic relationship. Don't get therapy. Just put an end to it.

No, put an end to it. Therapy will not do it. I'm with you, by the way. I'm happy to hear a therapist is skeptical of the therapy because. She's skeptical of therapy for couples, not therapy in general. Yeah, well, I did couple therapy. And whenever I saw a toxic relationship, you guys don't take up my time. Go away.

Separate ways. When is there when is therapy the most effective? Is effective in in in in many cases, for instance, we were talking about losing somebody young. If you lost a child, if you were betrayed, betrayal, if you're depressed, there's so many cases. We can talk for hours. When therapy is efficient and productive and can change your mindset because it's important to switch, you know, those addictive emotion of negativity, of sadness, of hate, of anger that are dominating people sometimes. And therapy is influential in changing that. What do you feel about medications? You know, I've studied a lot lately medicine, and as I'm going to Cornell, I'm at Harvard, I'm studying, you know, the impact on medication. And

I'm a firm believer that there are things that can be done naturally so that you don't depend of serotonin receptors when you can actually can take Travacor. Travacor is developed by, you know, science and is something natural that can, made of GABA and made of taurine, and that can, you know, boost the neurotransmitters in the brain and create balance within those cotyledons. So immediately, you know, depression can be alleviated. You sleep better, you feel better, you envision the world as a better place. So you are in harmony with your mind. All right. Well, listen, I'm not, I don't claim to have telepathy, but I get a vibe from you, honestly, that you are a very happy and warm person and a pleasure to meet. And I would like very much to meet you in person. I don't to being born at 1155 or 1205 a.m.

This seems quite unfair in the course of the universe. Well, I don't believe we're hostages to that, but I do believe we're hostages. Because you believe there's no free will. Well, yes, I don't believe in free will. You don't believe in free will or you do believe in it? I do not. I do not believe in yes, I don't believe in free will. Yeah. You don't believe in free will or you do believe in it? I do not. I do not believe in it. You don't believe in free will? No, I do not. Okay.

Yeah. He has like a Newtonian... Well, I just did just... I don't know how one logically could believe in free will, but do you know? But you have the free will to like me or the free will to dislike me. Well, I don't know that I do. My brain is telling me.

Look, I learned. You are not dislikable. Go ahead. I learned about free will one time when I smoked too much marijuana and became so. You see, you're a number nine. Well, that's the guiltiest charge. But I'm not. So that doesn't surprise me.

You know, if I look from the spiritual perspective about your divine codification, everything you say makes sense and is in alignment with who you are. Numerologically speaking, but you have a specific archetype. And the archetype that you have is fabulous because you're a very well-rounded individual. You're very loving, caring. Besides the appearance, you know what I mean? You have a good heart mean you have a good heart but the point i wanted to make the point i wanted to make about marijuana is

i became so paranoid and i realized my brain i don't control my brain my brain is a is an organ that does what it's going to do yeah that i agree you know and it decided that I was going to think the cops were coming, and that's what I thought. Yeah, I agree with that. But, and yet, you know, taking marijuana is a form of addiction and has a lot to do with your neurons in the brain forming an alliance and a dependency. Well, but I don't, I'm not a regular user. The world today, the addiction. We are in a world that is very addictive. Addicted to many things. To substances, to emotion, to behavior, pattern of behavior. So if you can break through the addiction of the world,

we can bring normality and harmony in this universe and in our world and on the world overall. I'm not a regular user, but I do chew gum quite a bit. Marijuana gum? No, just a tried-on bubble gum. All right. Well, anyway, so we're going to let you go, Dr. Hara.

Hara or Hara? How do you pronounce it? Hara. Hara. But we learned that Trump will not be president. Someone else will be. It won't be Biden. And we should short the stock market in 2029 and bitcoin is to be

avoided bitcoins we've avoided uh stay clear of number ones depends what your number is oh i don't think you can say it oh if you want to know does your book give us the details of what which numbers uh yeah it details everything it defends it defines every human archetype based on this energetic way of expressing yourself through the numbers. So in other words, every number is associated with a human archetype. And you cannot deny the human archetypes. They exist in psychology. Oh, wait. They exist in psychology. Before you go, just yay or nay. Horoscope. Yeah, I believe in horoscope. Tarot cards.

No, I'm not a tarot card. Tarot cards come from the tarot, from the thorax. So they, yeah, but I don't necessarily. What do you think about a number? Wait, wait, wait. Bumps on the forehead. No. No.

Tea leaves. No. Palms? Up to a certain degree, yeah. Fortune cookies? No. No, okay. I just wanted to ask you, are number fives generally known to be authoritarian types? They are free spirits. They don't like to attach. Number five doesn't like to attach. Well, Hitler never had a girlfriend. He did have Eva Braun. Doctor, I don't know if you could hear because of the thing. Hitler was the number five, Dan

tells us. Who was? Hitler. You've heard of him. If he was the number five, that's why he died the way he died. All right. He was a free spirit. You've heard of him. If he was the number five, that's why he died the way he died. Yeah. All right. He was a free spirit. He was a free spirit.

Well, he was, I guess. You know what I mean? There are major archetypes and recessive archetypes. He must have been not only a free spirit because he was such a monster. So there were many other things that define him. You can't just simply say because he was that number. That describes him. I watched on YouTube

a Hitler speech the other day. Have you ever done it? No, I've heard him. He's a fairly good speaker. He spoke for a long time. The speech was like an hour and a half. I think I watched almost 40 minutes of it. He took his time.

He did not have one, or I'm presuming he was reading it, but it was almost memorized. He didn't misspeak one time. He didn't stutter. He started very calm, and then he built into this crescendo. I mean, it was quite a performance, you know, just to try to understand how this guy was so powerful. I'm sure there are many other elements that allowed that, but one had to admit that was, I had no idea.

I'd never really listened to a Hitler speech that way. Anyway, I mean, listen to Barack Obama or any normal politician, they misspeak, or Joe Biden, you know, but any of them. I mean, this guy, I've never heard anything like it. All right, anyway, but, you know, that's how fives are. All right. Doctor, we really was really, honestly, a pleasure to meet you. I'd love to meet you again.

Any last words, or was I going to let you go? So the pleasure is mine. Thank you. And you guys are fantastic and you are phenomenal. I wish to know much more about you by you giving me your birthday. I'll give you my birthday. I haven't done your human archetype. As a psychologist, I see through you guys.

I got it. Next time we'll have another show. I'll bring my wife on because she's a piece of work. We'll give you all our birthdays and apparently give your husband a birthday and then we'll do that. That would be great. So long, doctor. Thank you very much.

Bye. Thank you. Love you. Appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Love you. I think one could make a good case of Hitler being a free spirit. He certainly traveled his own path. How charming is that woman? You know, don't put a whole lot of stock into her theories of birthdays and all that. What do you mean?

What? Of course not. First of all, didn't I tell you I spoke to her on the phone? You got it the second you talked to her. She's so warm. It, like, radiates. Oh, she's in the light. She was so, you got it the second you talked to her. She's so warm. It like radiates. Oh, she's in the light. I mean,

you're humanitarian. I don't know that that's the best way to characterize me. Yeah, that's a little bit of a stretch. And she jumped on the marijuana thing.

I never use marijuana. Oh, you told her. No, but she said your addictive personality, which is not the case. All right, whatever. How do you know? Anyway, I think she was terrific.

We really should do another show. I don't know how the guests will feel about it. Yeah, but if Trump gets elected, then she might not want to come back on. I think she's right about everything. I think she's going to have an explanation. They always do. They seem to, yeah.

Now, before we go, Periel, you believe this extraterrestrial mumbo jumbo... Don't. You mean paranormal, not extraterrestrial. Just being, you know. Specifically what? What are you asking me? You think there are supernatural forces out there which explain things in a way that we can't possibly understand. Yes, I believe in energy and I believe in...

Now, what does that mean you believe in energy? Well, we all believe in energy. No, I believe that there's energy. And when you do something good, you're creating good energy. And that has an effect. Will someday science develop a meter? No, because it's not like that. It's not like that. What do you believe happens after death?

Well, I'm not sure. But I think that something happens. To quote Louis C.K., a lot of things happen, but you won't be around to see it. I think a lot. I mean, I think that your energy does continue on. Well, absolutely. Of course it does.

Your matter and your energy continue on, but that won't do you a whole lot of good. Well, I don't know what that means. What do you mean? Like, for example, sometimes, like, something will happen, and you're like, that's a sign like thing like the universe is at play like sometimes like we were doing um I was writing something and I kept saying that like I really thought we should have like 18 chapters in this thing because of like whatever it was and And then when I finished writing the proposal,

guess how many pages it was? 18. 72. Which is a multiple of 18? Yes. I mean, you're kind of a stretch, don't you think? No, not at all. Not at all. And people were like, oh stretch, don't you think? No, not at all. Not at all.

And people were like, oh, I don't really think it matters. And I was like, no, no, no, it has to have 18 chapters. I feel like the numbers, and you know me, I'm not a big number person, but that's like a sign that it wound up on 72 pages. Four times 18 is... Well, but if it wound up on a number of pages that added up to 18, you would have said, you would have said, oh, you know, it adds up to 18. No, no, I would not have.

And also, like, you know, I told you guys we're collecting all these toys for the playrooms for a couple of the kibbutzim that were destroyed in October 7th. And we were packaging up the boxes and we're counting the number of toys that were in the boxes. And one of the boxes was Rubik's cubes. And I was numbering the boxes. And there were 36 Rubik's cubes that wound up in box number 36. Oh, there you have it. You know, Perrie, you go throughout your day.

You actually believe this? Or are you just trying to entertain people at home? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you playing You know, Perrie, you go throughout your day. You actually believe this shit or are you just trying to entertain people at home? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you playing a character? Perrie, you know, in life, so much shit happens that coincidences are inevitable. And it would be, the crazy thing would be if there were no such coincidences

because we do so many different things and we're involved in so many activities that there's going to be a coincidence at some point. How many boxes were there? There were almost 100. So it was one out of 100 chance. No, it wasn't one out of 100 chance. There were like 17 Lego sets and 43 Barbie dolls.

But however many Rubik's Cubes were in that box, there was one out of 100 chance dolls. However many Rubik's cubes were in that box, there was one out of 100 chance it was going to be that box number because there's only 100 boxes. But what were the chances that we were going to have 36 Rubik's cubes?

I didn't know how many Rubik's cubes we had. It doesn't matter if it's 36. If it was 5 Rubik's cubes or 99 Rubik's cubes, it would have been a one out of 100 chance it was five Rubik's Cubes or 99 Rubik's Cubes, it would have been a one out of 100 chance it was in box number five or box number 99. No, no. What do you mean no? This is pretty simple math here.

Five Rubik's Cubes in box number five would not have resonated. Because the number... 36 is twice high. Exactly. So you believe in numerology too? Yes. Ah, okay. All right, in numerology too? Yes. Ah.

Okay. All right, ladies and gentlemen. All right. So what we know now is I think we learned something about women. Let's be honest. You know, what's that old joke about

the professor in front of a biology class and it tells the frog to jump and the frog jumps and it cuts off one leg of the frog says I jump and the frog still jumps cuts off another leg you know this? No I don't think another. Another leg finally one leg of frog, frog still jumps cuts off the legs and no frog and the frog doesn't jump. So the professor says, and now class, what have we proven?

We've proven that when you cut off all four legs of a frog, he can no longer hear. Somehow that reminds me of Periel. And I wanted to say one more thing about psychology. I meant to fucking ask her and I forgot. This is my proof of psychology.

And then we're going to go. If you meet someone, they never lie. If you meet what? You meet somebody, they never lie. They say, why don't you lie? Well, I never lie because I was raised by a father and mother

who never lied to me. And I learned from that to be completely honest. You meet someone else, say, you never lie. Why don't you ever lie? Well, I never lie because my parents always lied to me. I can never believe anything they said. And I found this so upsetting that I swore I would never lie. My point being, from virtually any fact pattern, you can generate an explanation why it would cause

the personality that you're seeing. And this is why it's bullshit to me. You don't follow me at all? Yeah, but one of those... Yeah, I mean, I'm following you. First of all, there is an explanation. I mean... He's probably born with the gene that you know that I don't like.

That's an explanation, too. How do you explain that, like, you give her your number, and then she really tells you what your archetype... I mean, do you believe in archetypes? Of course I believe in archetypes. What am I, uh... Your question is, do you believe that they can be predicted by your birthday? Yes.

Are you punking me? Of course. What am I, an idiot? Of course I believe it. This is science. So you do believe that your archetype can be determined by your birthday? Of course. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have to go because it is 6.34,

and if we don't end now, we'll be ending at 6.35, and I don't have to tell you what that means. Good night, everybody.