The Comedy Cellar: Live from the Table - Taylor Dayne

Episode Date: July 5, 2020

Taylor Dayne is an American pop icon. Her groundbreaking debut single “Tell It To My Heart” turned her into an overnight  international star in 1987. She followed the smash hit with seventeen Top... 20 singles over the course of her three-decade career and she has sold over 75 million albums and singles worldwide. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Comedy Cellar, live from the Table, the official podcast of New York's world-famous comedy cellar. Coming at you on SiriusXM 99, Raw Dog, and the Ridecast Podcast Network. How do you do? I am here, still in quarantine, Dan Natterman,
Starting point is 00:00:46 with Noam Dorman, owner of the world-famous Comedy Cellar, and Periel Ashen Brand, who is the producer of Live from the Table. And Aruba Ray Allen is with us. He is a recurring, I wouldn't call him a regular, but a recurring guest on Live from the Table. are you aruba ray ellen i'm good dan noam perriel great to see you all as always wish it was in person instead of online but this is pretty good nonetheless aruba ray has a full beard gray white uh santa claus-esque beard i feel it ages him perlle disagrees and think it looks good. So we'll have to agree to disagree.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I prefer to listen to Perrielle. As an attractive woman, I value an attractive woman's opinion much more than yours. But yeah, I mean, I do wish the chin... I started getting white in my chin when I was about 23, 24 years old. I wish it was darker, but it is.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Really? That young? Hair is dark. And I haven't been going to salon because there's no salons open. Noam, any thoughts on the beard before we get into weightier discussion? Noam looks so irritated, and we're 30 seconds in. You know what? I'm not using my
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeti mic. I pulled it up. Let me transfer to the Yeti mic. Nobody even told me my sound was bad. I'm in my childhood bedroom,
Starting point is 00:02:12 by the way. Okay, now I'm on the Yeti mic. That should change the game. Oh, much better. Noam, it looks like
Starting point is 00:02:19 he's in terrible pain. I'm just relaxing on the beach. I'm enjoying it. Listen, I'm just, you know, we have bad news today. The New York postponed phase three indefinitely. Oh, right, right.
Starting point is 00:02:30 That is horrible. I didn't hear about that. Which phase three consists of? Indoor dining, which would have allowed us to have comedy. And that's been postponed till when? Poof, up in smoke. Poof, indefinitely. Oh poof. Indefinitely. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:02:46 A lot of states that, yeah, that's a huge bummer. I'm sorry to hear that, Oum. It sucks. It does suck. It does suck. What exactly are we waiting for to open things up? I mean, we've discussed this again and again. Are we waiting for the virus to go away completely?
Starting point is 00:03:02 Because that's not going to happen. You know, as long as one person has it, as soon as we go back, this whole thing started from one person. So why would the same thing not happen again? Well, the numbers are spiking. The numbers are skyrocketing. I mean, they're just surging through the roof. People have been gallivanting around.
Starting point is 00:03:24 That wasn't the question. The question is, is this whole thing started from one person? So at what point, when we open it up, of course it's going to spike and it's going to come back. I mean, unless we get rid of the damn thing entirely. It seems like if we would... Or there's a vaccine. If we would wear masks, which I'm tired of saying already for months already,
Starting point is 00:03:50 if we wear masks, then the R-naught would stay, probably, they say, would stay below one. And by R-naught, you mean because not everybody has studied this as assiduously as Noam has. Well, I'll pause for a second so they can Google. We could do that now that everybody knows the R-naught is the rate of transmission if it's above one it means that you're giving
Starting point is 00:04:11 if it was two let's say it means every person who has it gives it to two people then it grows exponentially if it's below one then it begins to wane and heads towards zero if And if it's around, if it hovers
Starting point is 00:04:27 around one, it just kind of stays static. But if people are walking around without masks, I mean, everybody's let us down. The president didn't order everybody to wear masks. New York is suggesting masks, but they're not serious about it. And I've been out and, you know, I just see people all the time not wearing masks. And then, I mean, it does seem like New York might have some kind of versioning herd immunity because we're not spiking. Maybe it's like 25% or so of the, or 20 to 25% of New Yorkers already have the antibodies. So that has to throttle down the R-naught in some way, because one out of every five or one out of every four people is not capable, ostensibly not capable of being spread to us. So I don't know. Well, the question that is on everybody's mind is,
Starting point is 00:05:26 how does this affect Aruba Ray? Aruba Ray, as you know, as regular listeners know, has a comedy club on the island of Aruba. That's why they call him Aruba Ray. But he normally goes twice a year, I guess. But normally he would be there now, I gather. Normally he'd be there three big chunks a year. Just to follow up on something Noam said,
Starting point is 00:05:49 from what I read in the Times, it says that despite all the protesting, there wasn't really a big spike, and they said maybe because it was outdoors, maybe because certain people were wearing masks. In New York, we didn't seem to have a spike, but in other places, look at Los Angeles. It's terrible. Well, in Los Angeles, my buddy't seem to have a spike, but in other places, look at Los Angeles. It's terrible. Well, in Los Angeles, my buddy told me, who lives there, he said that there's a lot of cases because it's a large population, but the number per 100,000 isn't as big as, say, Texas and Arizona.
Starting point is 00:06:17 No, Los Angeles County is one of the hottest spots for 100,000. But even there, I've read that even with the number of cases up, the number of hospitalizations and fatalities is not up. Well, because right now the average age is much lower. So we're doing the math. I keep forgetting. It's like 180-year-olds, hope I don't get this wrong, could produce as many deaths as 20,000 25 year olds um that because uh you know almost nobody dies at at 25 and and almost everybody you know such a high so depending on what the average age is you can have drastically different um numbers of deaths. So yeah, even in Florida, the death count really hasn't spiked yet,
Starting point is 00:07:10 but it might. It's a lagging thing, so you don't know. 80, 100-year-olds, that's 8,000 years of living. That's four 2,000-year-old men. Thank you. I'm in my childhood bedroom. I came here to Boston to get out of the city for about a week or so, a week and a half, and I went out to eat last night. I've done outdoor dining, and they have indoor dining here, and tables were spaced apart. They had partitions. I was nervous doing it.
Starting point is 00:07:38 It was my first time doing it. Somebody came over, and they asked us for our name and phone number for contact tracing, and I felt really comfortable. The wait staff was covered up and you weren't near other people. I mean, it was great. And everybody- Aruba, right. The people want to know about Aruba.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Okay. So Aruba is opening up to the U.S. July 10th. I'm on the first flight out, 8.30 a.m., 8.50 a.m., flying to Aruba from jfk when you land in aruba you take a covid test you pay 75 bucks or you can take a test 70 within 72 hours before you leave your home hometown you're probably not going to get the results in time but it's obviously not a bulletproof system when you land there and take the test you're supposed to stay quarantined for 24 hours so you get the test result. They don't give it to you at the airport, but they need to open up. Their economy has suffered more than anyone else's in the world, according to Standard & Poor's, but that is per capita. So they're opening up and I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I don't, look, I'd love to do shows there. Maybe we could start doing shows July 20th, but maybe two days a week because I think the occupancy rate is only going to be 20% on the whole island. Maybe we'll do shows. I've spoken to some comedians about coming down. They're up for it. They're fine. JetBlue keeps the middle seat empty. I think there's a comfort level.
Starting point is 00:08:57 You wear a mask on the plane. Aruba does testing. You've got to move on with your life but you gotta be careful so you know I'm excited to go. Are you saying that you still get laid with that beard? Well slightly unrelated question. A lot of there's a lot of people that don't seem to mind the beard now I'm not getting laid right now because it's COVID times and in COVID times I'm too paranoid but will I get on a plane and go hang out in the beaches of Aruba and take a swim in the crisp, clear blue waters? Yes, I will. But as far as
Starting point is 00:09:30 my beard goes, Aruba doesn't have any coronavirus. So maybe I will get laid in Aruba. Probably not. It's about to have a lot of coronavirus. That plan sounds cockamamie. It's not perfect, but you gotta, you know, what are you going to do? You test, you test, you're testing everyone who's coming in. Other islands have had disastrous results, but they weren't testing, you know? Yeah, but they're testing, but what are they doing? And then they're saying, okay, you don't have to quarantine for two weeks once you get there. Correct.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I mean, are they enforcing any of this? If your test is positive, you then have to go to a one specific hotel, sort of a COVID hotel. So everyone knows this when they're going down, but so they know there's a risk. Your vacation. That hotel is called Passion COVID. You know, it's possible. You know, it could be really screwy, but. Tell me how many people you think are actually going to take themselves over to covid
Starting point is 00:10:25 hotel i think i think it's understood you have to it's part of like part of the you go on the website before you even get on the plane you've agreed to all this because you upload your information and your password information on aruba.com so not arubacomedy.com aruba.com so i think uh look it's not a foolproof plan, but I'm excited to go. And there probably will be, you know, won't be a very busy time, but you get a great deal and the beaches will be empty.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And hopefully there'll be two nights a week of comedy. Well, Aruba Ray has a passion, you know, Perriel, one thing you got to say about Aruba Ray is he's a man with many passions. Aruba is one of those passions. Young girls would be another passion. Young girls would be another passion. Old women would be another passion. Define young.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Define young. I define young. Well, how would you define young? I don't know. Me? 30. But what I was getting at is that Ray, he likes young. He likes old.
Starting point is 00:11:23 He likes right in the middle. He is very eclectic in his. Well, I appreciate, I think I appreciate that. Let's be clear. I am not a, this is not a Chris D'Elia situation with Ray Allen. I'm respectful of women, just to be very clear. Grew up with all women, love women, wonderful people. Perry L's a woman.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I'm a big fan of hers. What did Chris D'Elia do exactly? I don't know. I don't want to dispar and disparage chris delia um he made based on on the accusation just sounds like he was just kind of creepy and overly aggressive but i don't think i don't think he committed a crime as far as i know and i don't think he's been charged with a crime it's just uh social social media has tried him isn't it a well i don't know what are the how old were the girls i don't know well What are the, how old were the girls? I don't,
Starting point is 00:12:05 I don't know. Well, apparently he, he released the full email exchange and there was a girl who when she said, hey, I'm 16,
Starting point is 00:12:12 he was like, oh, I didn't know that. Goodbye. He, I guess thought she was older. So there's several. Is that what he thought she was older
Starting point is 00:12:18 or he just don't ask, don't tell. He claimed that. He thought she was older or she was too, or 16 was too old. No, I think,
Starting point is 00:12:24 I think he, he thought she was older and. I don't know. I don't really was too old. No, I think he thought she was older. I don't know. I don't really know the story. Yeah, but he didn't, you know, I don't. He made every effort to keep it legal. Yeah, correct. As far as I read. I've read whatever Dan has read.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I mean, we, you know. You know, without knowing i'm still fatigued of of um people you know getting ruined now i i find myself looking for reasons to defend people even i don't want to defend i mean obviously i mean i i have a daughter you should you shouldn't be creeping around on the internet with 16 year old, whether it's a crime or not. I mean, but supposedly he didn't know, to be totally fair. He had no clue. I shouldn't say.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I don't know. Look, it's possible. Look at the number of people who go to bars that are under 18. I had a teacher in high school. I won't mention his name. He was my freshman year English teacher. So he was also the the the school uh cheerleading coach and he used to say to the girls like um you know hey susan
Starting point is 00:13:32 looking good in that skirt kids in my class i were 14 years old he was probably in his 30s he had a beard not unlike you right uh gray beard um and we used to and and and he used to say, Mr. DeFeo, that's perverted. And he would say, that's not perverted. If I said to Dan, you look good, that'd be perverted. A little bit of homophobia in with it. But the truth is nobody really thought it was that. I mean, it's like, yeah, Susan did look good in that skirt. At least in my mind.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Was Susan upset? Susan's not the real name, by the way. No, Susan was just like, Mr. DeFeo. Susan was definitely creeped out by that. Well, I don't know about that. He was a popular teacher. I had another teacher in 11th grade who used to, who openly, well, I heard the rumor, and I'm pretty sure it's true,
Starting point is 00:14:21 but he told a girl, close your legs, it smells in here. Now, he was, wow. But that he, he was, um, wow. But that was, he, he was like an older guy. He lived alone. Oh, okay. Then that makes it fine. And he was like, he was, he, he'd shut up drunk once or twice to like graduation. But he was like one of those teachers that, that it was kind of like, tried to be, uh, you know, friends with the students, I guess.
Starting point is 00:14:46 But he was the most popular teacher in school. I'll bet he was. He didn't fuck nobody. He just, you know, but... And to be fair, when he wasn't teaching, he worked in his family's fish market. So he knew the sense. That is so appalling.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I've said this before. When Woody Allen... I wish before. When Woody Allen, I wish it wasn't Woody Allen, but it was. When Woody Allen had that movie, Manhattan, one of the main plot lines was that he was having,
Starting point is 00:15:16 he was, what, 40 approximately in that movie, and he had a 17-year-old girlfriend. And he brought the girlfriend with him to dinner with his friends. Oh, she's 17. And as I recall, I should probably double-check this,
Starting point is 00:15:30 of all the reviews of that movie, Pro and Con, nobody identified the fact that he had a 17-year-old girlfriend as being over the line. It was just kind of like he had a 17-year-old girlfriend. Times have changed. Now, literature is replete. Is that the right word now? I'm replete with those sorts of things.
Starting point is 00:15:49 You remember the movie Lost in Translation? That wasn't literature, but that was an older Bill Murray and a 20-something Scarlett Johansson, you know, and they didn't have any sex, I don't think, but there sort of was the implication that they were kind of falling in love and um you know there was a movie Ghost World with um Steve Buscemi and Scarlett Johansson which I think had similar similar theme there it's sort of an old literary kind of a thing the older guy and the younger girl without without um without uh you know saying whether it's good or bad.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It seems to be a theme that recurs. I think it's bad because we realize now that it puts women who are not mature at that age on a path towards getting themselves in situations where they foreclose options in their lives that they wouldn't want to. I think that's a big part of it. And they get pregnant, whatever it is, and they end up not having careers or being older. What it's not, so I would be very upset if my daughter at 16, 17, you know, was with a guy. And your old boyfriend showed up with- very upset of my daughter at 16, 17, you know, was with a guy. Your old boyfriend showed up with 30 or, or even a guy in his twenties,
Starting point is 00:17:08 you know, anybody, I don't want her to go out with anybody who's not like another teenager in high school. Right. But having said that they do, they do, they do a very sloppily call it pedophilia and it's not, I mean, it's not pedophilia. I mean, it's not being attracted to a young prepubescent girl. It's being attracted to a young woman who looks very often not different than she's going to look three weeks later when she all of a sudden turns legal, right? And it's, so the pedophilia word, I think, adds an extra layer to it, which is not fair, really. It's just you shouldn't be doing that.
Starting point is 00:17:53 It is illegal. I mean, think about this. Some places the age of consent is 15. Some places it's 14. Some places it's 17. Some places it's 19. This is not, you know, how do you say something is horribly immoral unless you do it across the bridge in that state,
Starting point is 00:18:09 in which case it's perfectly okay. So I don't think we're that precise about how we feel about it. And, of course, all the famous rock stars did it constantly with 13-year-olds, and they're still welcome guests on every evening talk show. So, you know. I think the problem here is the sexualization of girls. And when you're 15 years old, you're a girl. Even if you look 17 or 18, your brain is not fully developed,
Starting point is 00:18:39 and 30-something-year-old guys should not be trying to fuck you. Well, that's what I said. I know. They're not sure. You missed the obvious joke there, Noam, that Perry L's brain is still not fully developed. Oh, yeah. I didn't mind that.
Starting point is 00:18:52 But I'm saying- When I was 15, I was totally happy to fuck 30-year-old guys. No, I'm just kidding. I mean, in the old days, Elvis had a young girlfriend, and Charlie Chaplin had a young girlfriend, and my God, Jerry Seinfeld had a 17-year-old girlfriend the day before yesterday. And, you know, it was like, oh, but nobody's like, you're a monster, Jerry Seinfeld. So, okay, she wasn't 16, she was 17.
Starting point is 00:19:18 But we're really splitting hairs there, right? So, like a lot of things in today's day and age we are we're imposing our new wisdom onto things and and acting as if how could anybody ever see this differently despite the fact that you know i don't know a hundred thousand years of human history has seen it differently and you know right scarlet o'hara was uh i think 16 when red butler encountered her the, at 12 Oaks at the, at the, the Wilkes plantation. Scarlett O'Hara was not beautiful, but men seldom noticed when,
Starting point is 00:19:51 when caught in her charms as the Talton twins were. That is the opening chapter of Gone with the Wind where Margaret Mitchell says that Scarlett O'Hara was not beautiful. And then she, she then proceeds to spend the next 11,100 pages talking about how every guy wanted to fuck Scarlett O'Hara. Because she did something. Yeah, she was hot
Starting point is 00:20:10 and I dismissed the first paragraph as a mistake. No, damn. To me, that first paragraph was a typo as far as I'm concerned. Scarlett was hot. Men don't fall all over themselves to get at a chick that's not hot
Starting point is 00:20:21 because she has something. You know, I never saw the movie and it looks like I'll never get the chance. You can see, you should see the movie. Movie. The movie is very, I mean, it does in a way, uh, I, I get the complaint with Gone with the Wind that it Disney, Disney fies slavery or something. But, uh, on the other hand, I saw Gone with the Wind with Rosalyn and and rosalyn's black and she is years ago and
Starting point is 00:20:48 she found it very easy to separate the hollywood from rosalyn is very very her opinions and we we we had her on we have had her her opinions go almost always go against the main current of black thought no but not this is years ago this was when she was in her 20s. And other people, too. I mean, I'm not telling anybody to watch it or not. I mean, you think about it that the people in Hollywood who made that movie at the time were, as always, Hollywood
Starting point is 00:21:15 or on the left edge of popular thought. And Hattie McDaniel won an Academy Award for it. But yeah, of course, slavery couldn't have been like that well no i mean don't but again you have to take you put into context when the movie was made what was it made 1939 39 yeah and that's how people were depicted back then it's no no i have to say but i did research. It was criticized even at that time. Oh, really? For putting like a Vaseline on the lens of slavery. Even at the time, people recognized that.
Starting point is 00:21:54 So it's a legitimate beef. I mean... So do you pull it from the shelves? I mean, the movie? Well, I mean, listen, there was a movie, Life is Beautiful. Yeah. And that was criticized for kind of funding and gaming concentration camps, like Holocaust. And of course it did do that,
Starting point is 00:22:17 but as a Jew, it didn't offend me that it did that. It was what it was, you know, but I couldn't, I'm sure other people were quite offended by that. Maybe Survivor is even more so. So it's a very personal reaction. I don't judge any, I wouldn't criticize anybody's reaction to it. I think it's true Gone with the Wind does that,
Starting point is 00:22:41 but I don't think it crosses the line into disparaging black people although the character of kizzy is a little over the top you know um i don't know i don't know but it is you know it's a shame because on so many other levels it's a great piece of movie making you know it's a great story it's like the merchant of venice shakespeare's the merchant of venice wasn't particularly i mean this is going back a few more years I haven't read it in a while But I recall thinking it was pretty good
Starting point is 00:23:10 And that doesn't cast Jews In the best light But people understand that it was written In Elizabethan England Well how about Have you seen With Alec Guinness Playing Fagin
Starting point is 00:23:25 in one of the earlier movies of Oliver Twist with a big prosthetic nose and he's just dewy as can be. And you know, I mean, it's clearly, how about Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ? I mean, come on. It still happens now all the time where they really make somebody look incredibly dewy.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Even on Game of Thrones, the guy from the bank, they didn't say it, but I mean... The guy from the bank. Yeah, the banker. The money runner. People don't perceive that. What, Ariel? I said, even just this podcast.
Starting point is 00:23:59 By the way, we have... We're going to really switch gears in just a couple of minutes because we have 80s pop star Taylor Dayne is about to join us. Is she Jewish? Ray's all excited. Yes, she is. She is, but I don't want to get too into that.
Starting point is 00:24:12 This show is Jew-y enough as it is. Oh, she started in the Russian clubs, didn't she? Is that true? You can ask her about that. Perrie, when is she joining us? She's joining us at 7.30. I would like to point out that you guys are also, while you're at it, missing one of the greatest works of literature of the past easily 50, 60 years,
Starting point is 00:24:32 which of course is Nabokov's Lolita. I don't know if you pronounce it Nabokov, but I can promise you I've never heard it pronounced that way. You may be the only one that's right. And that's Nabokov. No, it's not. It's Nabokov. You might want to tell Sting that. Because he sings that in his song. Well, Sting sings Nabokov, but I've heard it pronounced Nabokov
Starting point is 00:24:55 by English professors and various people. But you may be right, or maybe that's the Russian pronunciation. But in any event. What did Philip Roth call Nabokov when he was naked? I don't know, but I mean, she was, what, 12, 13? No, Lolita, I think, which is, by the way, the novel Lolita is how... This was relating to our earlier conversation, Peril. You're a conversation too late, because we were talking about racial stuff,
Starting point is 00:25:21 and now you're getting back to the underage girl stuff. But I believe lolita from the novel lolita which is how we get the word lolita was i believe uh 13 ish did you say 13 14 i'm not sure but um he was how old well but he wasn't the good guy though he was he was not portrayed as the hero humbert humbert yeah i was i guess in his 30s or something played by James Mason in the original film as long as we're jumping around conversations
Starting point is 00:25:48 the merchant of Venice I believe he sold fish Taylor Dane is here Taylor Dane okay so we'll have to obviously we're not going to discuss
Starting point is 00:25:58 these matters with Taylor unless it's something you guys take the lead because I'm a 70s guy well but you're a musician you're a musician you should be a job, but you're a musician. I'm going to switch to be a Taylor Dane guy right now.
Starting point is 00:26:08 She's wonderful. I haven't met her. I've seen her on a – Ray Allen did a Zoom with her, and she was very quite pleasant. Hey. Hey. Oh, hi, Taylor. How do you do?
Starting point is 00:26:18 How do you do? Well, I'm fine. This is everybody. Taylor Dane is joining us from – I don't know from where, but California maybe. I'm not sure. California, CA. Hey, everybody. Taylor Dane is joining us from, I don't know from where, but California, maybe? I'm not sure. California, CA. Hey, guys. Hi. I'm Dan Natterman. I'm a
Starting point is 00:26:31 comedian at the Comedy Cellar. I can tell. Noam Dorman is the man that is with the beach behind him, and he is the owner of the Comedy Cellar. Is that real or fake? Fake. Fake, fake. Fake. Well or fake? Fake. Fake. Fake. Fake. Well, one can dream.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Looks good. He's a musician himself. He never got to the top 40 like you did. Top 20 is the aim. Well, I think you had some top five stuff. Top five. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Never got quite there. I love it. He's still plugging, and God bless him. Never got quite there. I love it. He's still plugging and God bless him. We wish him well. Periel Ashton-Brand is the producer of the show and she's an on-air personality. And she reminds me of Taylor a bit of you. She's a very, very outspoken, you know, woman. She doesn't sing.
Starting point is 00:27:19 But and then me, Dan Adam. Anyway, how are you? I know Ray Allen. You know, Ray, you did a Zoom with Ray. You were on my, the show we did a few Fridays ago. Yeah. The Aruba show. You sang on it. I loved it. Yeah, that was fun.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Comedy. I'm good at comedy. I love my comedy. And you guys have had some great guests on this show. I'm very excited to be here. Thank you for thinking of me. Oh, yeah. Why not? I'm from the 80s. You have to remember that I'm... Can we just discuss this view right here? What view? The behind you. Oh no, that's not real, that's also fake. I don't live
Starting point is 00:27:56 in a Hollywood, in the Hollywood Hills. Not with a grand white piano behind you like, you know, like Prince and shit, no? No, no, that's just something I found online. I could change it, you know. No, I'd rather believe that you're living the Gaga life. You're in Los Angeles? I'm in LA right now, yeah. My girlfriend's apartment here. She's a manager that wants me to plug her. There, Jan, let me plug you right now. She's a jazz musician's manager who says, I'm 1%.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I represent 1% of all the managers in the world, and I'm struggling. I need to work. But she represents some of the greatest. She manages some of the greatest, the 1% of the 1% of the musicians in the world, and she has no work. Christian Sands.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Who else do you manage? Keyon Harrell, the greatest trumpeter living right now. Christian Sands. Who else do you manage? Keyon Harrell, the greatest trumpeter living right now. Christian Sands, greatest. So anyway, we're just hanging here, bullshitting,
Starting point is 00:28:51 talking about music. As a comedian, I've always said that music people to me, because I just, it's a length, like a joke. I can tell you logically understand how jokes work. Music is like something I cannot do.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And so I, to me, musicians is like this land of mystery that I find endlessly fascinating because it's something that's not my world. And we find you just as fascinating and mysterious and compelling to watch like a bad accident the same way you find us. Dan Adamant is very fascinating. And he is an accident, Yes. You know what? I had a couple of questions that I always want to know about pop stars, but I never meet them. First of all,
Starting point is 00:29:36 now when you're listening to Sirius or whatever on the radio and one of your songs comes on, do you turn it up and say, right? Or do you, or do you have Twitter channels? I don't need to hear this. If I'm by myself, if I'm in a car, I'll always turn it up for a minute and just hold my heart and just go,
Starting point is 00:29:57 this is a sign. You know, it's always a sign. You have to take it in and do that moment and just take a breath and take a breath. And it's a blessing you know it is a blessing right and then change the channel i don't skip with it the whole song and go oh you know like you know i wish i had kanye's you know uh self uh self-exploitation love but um
Starting point is 00:30:21 i do take that moment i do and i always look at it like a sign. It's a beautiful thing. If I'm with friends, oh, my lanta. They're like, I'm 20. They're amping it. And I'm like, oh, everybody party. You know, I can't even tell you. I get calls all the time, but they got it on 20. And you just go with it, man, because they're just overjoyed. And that's what music is, right? Brings people together. They're overjoyed. i can't ever stop that bus you just ride with the train baby bam bam bam bam are there particular are there any like particular like parts performances or your performance or someone else's performance on a record which you were never you were never quite happy with and every time you hear it you're reminded of like shit i wish i had sung that a little differently or oh Oh my God. Do you remember even the beginning of I'll always love you? And they're like, you know how hard that is to hit sometimes?
Starting point is 00:31:11 And they're like, do that part. So I'm like, even live, you can't even start. Once you hit those three notes, they're like, oh, we know what song that is. Hell yeah. And I'm like, all right, we got to do it. My, my, my, my keyboard player is like, don't start the song. I'm like, Oh yeah. And I'll even do it to him. It's like,
Starting point is 00:31:35 you can't start love will lead you back without the ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I'm like, I'm gonna start it. Just, just like do, do, do, do, do. You better hit those chords before i get into that song no no ding ding ding ding ding oh yeah so it goes both ways uh how does that process work when like um you know somebody writes a song and then you ultimately sing the song and how does how does that get to how does that get together with the song? Like a writer writes a song and she's thinking, I want to write this specifically for you, or she shops it around.
Starting point is 00:32:14 How does that pass? Very interestingly, I just had this conversation because this beautiful moment after 30 years, but actually Diane Warren, so from God's ears to your mouth right now, I just had this conversation in the middle of singing this for Diane Warren and Clive Davis three days ago on Richard Weiss, who you all might know.
Starting point is 00:32:34 He has this insane quarantine charity event that he holds every weekend. And he's been giving back and holding this Zoom call that has raised almost $5 million. And it's been giving back and holding this uh this zoom call that um has raised almost five million dollars and it's been extraordinary a private call that he's been doing and usually a thousand people participate and get on this private call that he's set up and a zoom call and clive was on it and it was for broadway cares this last week and he had one set up with the original cast of hamilton got on on Friday night. And this was on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And Diane was on the call. And I was on the call. And it was my time to sing. And I sang Love Will Lead You Back. And Clive was talking. And he said, after I finished singing Love Will Lead You Back, it almost brought tears to my eyes. I sang it a cappella. And Diane went on to tell how she remembers bringing the song into Clive at the bungalow
Starting point is 00:33:23 and talking about the song and how she was bringing it in for Whitney. It's a song, but she was bringing it in. Clive thought it was for Whitney. And she said, no, I want Taylor to sing this. This is for her voice. It is for her to sing. This was in 1992,
Starting point is 00:33:40 91. The bodyguard had just come out in 92. It was right around there because I put it out on my second album, Can't Fight Fate. And that was right about that time. And I remember, it didn't go out on The Bodyguard, but Unbreak My Heart was one of her other treasured, Love Will Lead You Back. And he said, I think it's great for Whitney, but you're right. It is good for Taylor. I love it for her voice. And I remember being in the room with him and listening to this record and just hearing these notes and just listening to the, you know, saying goodbye is never an easy thing, but you never said
Starting point is 00:34:15 this, you'd stay forever. So if you must go, darling, I'll set you free. But I know in time we'll be together. It's crazy lyrics. And only Diane could say something so simplistic with the same, you know, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. It's just chromatically, it's a scale. It's just incredible. Anyway, so they both said it at the same time and yet for Whitney, for Taylor,
Starting point is 00:34:39 and it just, you know, it was right after every beat of my heart, it was just magical. And it just went to know, it was right after Every Beat of My Heart. It was just magical. And it just went to number one right after that. I mean, for any listeners that may not know the name Diane Warren, she's written pretty much everything. I mean, she's... Well, she's definitely one of our treasures, you know?
Starting point is 00:34:57 She's one of our American top songwriters, Tom Petty. You wrote Don't Want to Miss a thing for Aerosmith, which is, I don't, you wouldn't necessarily, I wrote on break my heart. Did she also write, did she write,
Starting point is 00:35:13 I can look this up for Bon Jovi. It's my life. Was that her? I don't know. Was there ever a song that almost went to somebody else that was, well, that you said was going to go to Whitney, but was there ever a situation where it was like a close call where this song would have gone to another artist and then you ended up.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Not that I'm aware of, no. Is there a song that you, that you're always have to sing for whatever reason because your fans love it and you're just sick of it. You're just tired of the song. Don't rush me. Don't rush me. Don't rush me. By the way,
Starting point is 00:35:47 it wasn't Diane Warren that wrote, I made a mistake, but she's written 80 trillion songs. 80 trillion. And she also wrote, I'll be a shelter, which is a fan favorite over and over and over again. Huge in Australia,
Starting point is 00:36:01 huge in Philippines. Like you just huge. Are you happy to sing that song for people that want to hear it? Australia, huge in Philippines. Like you just huge. Are you happy to sing that song for people that want to hear it? Me? Yeah. You remember that song? Of course I did. It's my favorite Taylor Dane song. I'll be your shelter, right? Yeah. There's clouds hanging in your sky and they're just not letting any light in
Starting point is 00:36:22 and you feel like you'd like to give in Don't you give up so soon What you need is a friend to count on What you got, baby, you got someone Who will stay when the rain is falling Won't let it fall on you I'll see you through I'll cover you with a love With a love so deep.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yes, and people and artists do forget their fucking lyrics. With a love so deep and warm and true, I will be there. Oh, honey, I'll be your shelter. I'll be the one to take you through the night night Shelter you gonna do the Donna's Right make everything all right Keep going Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
Starting point is 00:37:26 na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, sure they love you too um because we're all at home and these walls are thin this isn't my real house as i said i'm just in a new york city apartment dance flustered i thought you were singing for me and that those songs were my college year songs and i had a lonely college experience but we won't get into that but at least i had the music. Yeah, of course. Of course, music gets us through.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Has any of you traveled yet or gone out? I left New York. I'm in Boston right now in my childhood bedroom. Very exciting. Wow. But that's about it. I'm going to Aruba on July 10th when they open up. I'm going first thing in the morning, July 10th.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Come on down, Taylor, if you want. Wow. Your friend's there? Yeah. Oh, yeah. His name is Aruba Ray. He has a show in Aruba. That's true.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I remember. Well, I know his friend's there, but I mean, you have a place to stay. You know what you're doing. You go to see him. Oh, yeah. I have a place to stay. Taylor. Is it open there?
Starting point is 00:38:43 Is it open? They'll open July 10th, they'll open July 10th, the Friday, July. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Everybody has, you may not,
Starting point is 00:38:49 you might, you know, I hope you don't remember. You one time got very angry with me. I know you don't think you've ever met me before, but you, first of all, you stole one of my musicians.
Starting point is 00:38:59 You stole a, I'm teasing. That sound like me, Jan? Do you remember, do you remember, she used to sing background for you, Vivian Sessoms? Yeah, Vivian, of course.
Starting point is 00:39:08 So Vivian used to be my band, and she left my band to go to tour with you. Really? What band would that have been? You mean me or Joe Cocker, or let me go on with the list of people she sings with? No, prior to that. She used to work at the Cafe Wah. Oh, but she went on to bigger, things honey oh i know i saw we're still friends and um so but you came down to the wall one night and i didn't know you were there and i was making joe i was i used to
Starting point is 00:39:36 tease vivian like that because vivian would always try to i don't know how to put it but anyway i would tease it's like extraordinary people. Let's just keep this. The Cafe Wa had extraordinary musicians, and everybody played at the Wa when they were off tour. Just don't even start with me. Yeah, so I used to tease Vivian that she would actually go on tour with Taylor Day, but she would sing the songs. And it was just me teasing Vivian, and it had nothing to do with you, God forbid.
Starting point is 00:40:04 It was really just me teasing Vivian. And you were there, and with you, God forbid. It was really just me teasing Vivian. And you were there and you heard me say this. And I didn't know you were there. And you came on stage and you said, this guy's a fucking asshole. Do you remember that? Yeah, I did. You grabbed the mic.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And I felt so bad. I was like, no, I was kidding around with Vivian. I probably said it two drinks deep and definitely as a Jew from Long Island. I didn't say it seriously. I think page six wrote it up and I tried to find it today
Starting point is 00:40:33 but they don't have it. It's pre-digital. Ever since then I was like, oh God, I hope I never have to cross paths with Taylor Dayne again. Then they told me, oh Taylor Dayne, I hope she doesn't remember. But anyway. Let me hear how Bette Midler says, this guy's a fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:40:49 That's how I talk. It's very New York with a bit of Jewish from Long Island. You started in the Russian clubs, right? Did you start in the Russian clubs? No, I started in bands. I started all throughout New York. I landed in a Russian club on the weekend to pay the bills. But I mean, that was really what helped me pay to work with Rick in the,
Starting point is 00:41:09 in the, in the studio. Dan has landed in many Turkish baths, similar, but different. Yeah. One more thing. It helped me pay to make tell it's my heart helped me pay for the 12
Starting point is 00:41:20 inches. I was doing Taylor. Just give me one favorite. Tell Dan and, and, and Ray and Perry L again, that, that my band in the cafe while I was extraordinary, Taylor, just do me one favor. Tell Dan and Ray and Perrielle again that my band in the Cafe Wah was extraordinary. It had great musicians in it, right?
Starting point is 00:41:30 Dude, Cafe Wah. Those bands, it's notorious. They had the best musicians down there playing in there. They still do. Everybody knows it. You go on Monday nights to the Wah, Tony Minaj, all those people, they creep in the Wah.
Starting point is 00:41:44 That's what they do. Notorious band in there. That's it. Of course, Noam's no longer there, but... But those are all the people I hired and I used to play with. I used to lead the band. Totally, he did. 100%. If that's who you were hiring that band, it was either Monday
Starting point is 00:41:59 night or Tuesday night. That's the band. The house band was ridic. Taylor, do you ever show up and go to a small venue, just unannounced for fun? There's a place in Boston I show up to and do that too. It depends, but not much anymore, but it just depends.
Starting point is 00:42:16 That's awesome. Where in Boston? Which place? Willys. Okay. How long are you in Boston for? Just two more days. I'm there the 9th. Oh, okay. How long are you in Boston for? Just two more days. I'm there the 9th. Oh, shit. Are you flying?
Starting point is 00:42:30 Are you in California? Yeah. And you're flying? Yeah. In a hazmat suit? Is this going viral? Are people going to know this shit on the 9th that I'm coming to Boston?
Starting point is 00:42:44 I hope. Boston, I've been going out here in Boston and everyone's been good. They're wearing masks. Everybody's going to know I might go to Willie's on the 9th. Scratch that. Edit. I can. If you want me to, I will. I don't think I'll go to Willie's on the 9th. What were you going to say?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Wouldn't that be a shit storm? No bars are open. Who are we kidding? No, in Boston, things are open. In Boston, places are open. We've been doing this. I went out the other night. No way. Yeah, they're distant.
Starting point is 00:43:11 It was good. It was really good. How is that open? It's crazy. Massachusetts has like really low corona right now. I thought they had high corona. Well, the corona is here and thriving. It's time to get the hell out of LA.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Yeah, LA's bad. That would be a hell out of L.A. Yeah, L.A. is bad. That would be a good Weird Al Yankovic song, Ray. Hi, Corona. Time to get the hell out of L.A. Hi, Corona. Time to say our goodbyes and say ole, L.A. Hey, Taylor, I have a question for you. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:42 When you started out, was everything recorded to click tracks back then? In the nineties? Click tracks? What's a click track? Was it tempo? Were you playing? Were you playing? No,
Starting point is 00:43:56 no. I'm just wondering like how you feel, how you feel about recording to music that's, you know, that's, that's bound to a tempo with a click as opposed to like bands that used to just play free. Oh.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Do you feel any difference with that? I honestly don't remember. You don't remember. How about when you play live? Does the band sing to a click to get the tempos the same way every night or? No. No.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Not even a chance. I use, listen now either. I, you know, sometimes I, honestly, certain tracks, I have to use track. I have to, and do I use inner ear? Some times when it's consistently on tour, I will use inner ear and sometimes I won't, I'll actually use floor wedges. I still do it. I'm old school. It's hurt my ears to some degrees. I have to be honest with you. I mean, I'm still kind of old school. And on other levels, I do have to get inner ears. And I mean, we've talked about it. I've talked to my ENTs about it. And like, I just have to use tracks. I have to do more high end for me that I can hear it. And I just use a more of a high end for my higher end frequencies for me to hear the high end of the track to be honest.
Starting point is 00:45:11 It's not really just click for me. Yeah. I had a lot of hearing loss too. I really do. I mean, I have to be fair and tell you the truth. So it's just, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:45:21 I'm sitting here going, you know, a star is born. Like I'm more like the old man, you know? I've got to be honest. Taylor, something I've always found amazing is that you became so successful and so well-known all over the world. I mean, you were a kid.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I mean, you were so young. That's how it is, though, isn't it? No, but what was that like to be 22 and to be that huge? Was it, did it mess with your head or was it just exciting or, you know, how, how was that? That's a big deal. Some people can't handle it. That is part of my management at the time. That is how it works with musicians. They're always young. Comedians are generally, by the time we hit our stride
Starting point is 00:46:07 we're in our well, I'm 50 now and I think that I'm about as good as I've ever been but we typically hit our stride in the 30s. Right, but I was wondering what Taylor's experience was with that because I was crazy, Jan.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Just a bit, yes. I don't know what her definition of crazy is but this is the thing I'm more like a man a guy I'm more like I was had two brothers growing up I never had sisters so I always operated more like in a masculine way like I like to be part way. Like I like to be part of the guys. I like to be part of the group. And yet I was very feminine and very sexual, but also very... Would you say that's more true?
Starting point is 00:46:53 Too true. I like to be part of the gang. Edit that out. Not in an orgy sort of way. I like to be part of the boys. I like that and to my detriment at times, you know. And I like to be part of it all. So it was hard to face some truths, you know, more in a like, you can't be part of the boys all the time.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Because it is a boys club when it comes down to the business. And you have to learn that the hard way. it um actually hurt me in a lot of levels that because you know sometimes it works for them and then sometimes it doesn't and i had to learn that being a woman you you have to keep your power inside you have to learn and um and i grew up and i grew up and i owned my womanhood and my power. My mother was, was a powerful woman, but she also was, was very vulnerable and weak. So I chose to keep my strength and then honor it and hone in and learn it.
Starting point is 00:47:55 But I was a firecracker at 22. I was blowing up. I used my sexuality. These guys saw all that, but I was also using it everywhere. It was explosive. I didn't know how to harness her. I didn't know how to harness all that. And so, yeah, I mean, was it hard? I mean, you didn't see it at first because it was just, you just saw this rawness. I didn't, wasn't taught how to harness her and use that for the long haul. So she kind of exploded a bit. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:28 You should read my book. You know, my book is out, right? I didn't know that. So yeah. Tell it to my heart. Oh, that's my fear and found my voice.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yes. I wish I had a cover of it in front of you. Yes. I'll bring it up. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Cause you saw it,
Starting point is 00:48:44 Ray. We discussed. Yes. I love it. What this premise of this show is for. I'll bring it up yeah thank you because you saw it Ray we discussed it that's what the premise of this show is for I love a good musician memoir my memoir my release and my new single is coming out on the 8th oh my god
Starting point is 00:49:00 Joanne you idiot Joanne Miggs I'm going to kick your ass no it's not there. We have it. We have it. Joanne sent it and we would not have finished. This show is awesome. I demand Judd.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I demand Judd take a look at this. This. Here we go. Yes. No. No. That sounded like the girl that figured it out a little later?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yes, I think so. How I lost my shit conquered my fear and found out it was Taylor Day. When you guys were coming out of school at 30, I lost my shit. And Clive will be the first to tell you. And it was on Amazon.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I was going to see all my friends and all those places I traveled to on buses and tour buses. and Clive will be the first to tell you. And it was on Amazon. I was going to see all my friends and all those places I traveled to on buses and tour buses and everything while they were just graduating college and getting their first jobs. And I'm like, damn, I already done all this on a tour bus and flow here a hundred times.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I think I'm going to just go rent a casita in Santa Fe while you guys go to your massage classes. And just tell me where a trailhead is i'm gonna like really see where america now like like i've been to europe 1700 times but i've never seen it like none of it as there are there any musician memoirs that you've uh read recently and enjoyed i i just uh just read Bruce Springsteen's autobiography.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I bet you that's interesting. How was it? Oh, yeah, it was really interesting. Is it honest? Yeah. Is it honest? Bruce is, he's like, he's very literary, you know. Oh, yeah, he's a poet. Oh, for sure. Very poetic. And you saw that also with his Broadway show. And he's a storyteller.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Sure, for sure, for sureeller and you know he talks about I always really loved Anthony Cadiz's book was truly wow I couldn't believe how lucid his book was because considering he was really really
Starting point is 00:51:02 fanatic like how he could, how he had such vivid memories, unless he was just completely rewriting history. It's possible, too, but it's unbelievable. When you write a book about your life, how much of it do you have to
Starting point is 00:51:18 approximate because you don't remember the details? Well said, and diplomatically, I might say. Approximate is a good thing. My storytelling is, I love the imagination of it all, and I will have to say mine is more just guttural and real. Yeah, I can see Bruce is just, literally, he's a poet, right? He's our version.
Starting point is 00:51:43 He's our American poet, right? Dylan, our American poets, poets you know really beautiful i would love to be in a car while they they tell me what they see right that's the way to put it yeah right just tell me what you see like walk in the woods with them that's it you know uh speaking of walking in woods i can't get over the fact that you're that you're a fly fisherman or fisherwoman. I thought you were going to say I have a tick disease, but I have a hippie heart and I don't mean hippie. Like I want to sit outside and like put paste all over my body.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I just, that spirit is what makes me listen to chords more than other people, other girls or whatever, you know, just have that spirit. You know, I love music. I love when a chord moves and bends.
Starting point is 00:52:30 That's why Joni Mitchell, why I hear things. I hear colors when she performs. That's just me, how I hear things. Who sings that? No. Who sings with you? What's that? The yellow tax, big yellow. That's Joni Mitchell. Yeah. You sing that. You do a great, who sings that with your band? Amanda Brown. Amanda Brown. Amanda Brown, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Yeah, she sings with Adele. Well, Adele's kind of semi-retired, but she was singing with Adele, you know. She was? Yeah, she was like Adele's number one background singer for a while. What songs do you do? We would do just like some acoustic stuff with her.
Starting point is 00:53:03 We play in the olive tree now but she she did a really nice her version of uh johnny mitchell's big yellow taxi i'd play guitar for her i just knew he played big yellow taxi that's neat you know that's hard stuff to play yeah no have you done any beatles songs and i always joke with them every friday i like say hey do you guys know any crazy but you guys know any beatles well do you guys know any Beatles? Well, they're fun to play, you know, when you're just hanging around. We're not playing, you know, with a very polished band anymore. We're just kind of winging it. So, you know, it's what everybody knows.
Starting point is 00:53:33 I said you were great. I don't have the bands in there. What's that? You forget the Beatles. I mean, you know, I did a Sunday. I was doing Sundays at home, March and April and May. I was doing, and then I just started going to the Beatles. I went into Stevie Wonder's songbook for his birthday, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:50 and I just was doing that. You know, it was only somebody who could sing it. Noam, I sent Colin a suggestion for you guys from a song that I heard on the Money Heist soundtrack. Rayon, you're a Money Heist fan. I do like Money Heist. It was a song called Broken Crosstalk. And I thought it would be great for you guys and colin never wrote me back i was slightly insulted but taylor who who are your i mean it's it's you know it's a it's a corny question but it's
Starting point is 00:54:15 actually quite interesting who are the singers that you growing up wanted to sing most like like sinatra wanted to sing like billy holiday right so a weird answer like where where was your head at um it's weird because even with the british invasion so it's super young i mean i heard my first the first time i was given a radio right it was the late 60s and it was stevie wonder right it was my sharia Moore. And I just couldn't even understand his chord changes in that. Na, na, na, na, na, na. Right. It was wild, mind boggling.
Starting point is 00:54:52 And his voice, right, was like just insane. And then you had that British invasion, right? You had these late 60s, right? You had the Beatles, obviously. I just couldn't look at Paul enough without crying. And then all of them. And their music just evolved so incredibly right and then you had Marvin Gaye you had Al Green this is what moves me to no end I just just just did Aretha was a little later um but you did have these folk our folk folk musicians. I, you know, these were our Buffalo Springfield.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I, you know, that was Steven Stills. That was, I'm trying to think. It was, everything was on AM radio. Everything was on AM radio. If I really want to get into that, but then you had Build Me a Buttercup. Those were anything I could play on a 45, right? That was the Foundations, right foundations right yeah i'm so dizzy that's the only thing i could play until my parents started getting me records which was crosby stills and nash sweet judy blue eyes
Starting point is 00:55:55 that's great do you play an instrument or you just i played the flute they made me play the flute i wanted to kill myself oh no you and the great ian anderson from jethro toe i tried i tried he was great just he was a big talent i had to walk to school don't don't start with me so i had to query a light instrument my brother got fucked he had to play the french horn because he got a hundred on the test he said my whole life is over he had to walk like a mile to school with a french horn case it's like i've never've never seen anything like it. He started stealing by fourth grade and he put everything in the French horn case. It's just been a terrible life story. Read it, it's in the book.
Starting point is 00:56:31 It was a musical test? I got screwed. My younger brother's taking it all the way. It was a musical test? Yeah. In our grade, we were growing up, you had choir and you had a musical instrument. Do you come from a musical family?
Starting point is 00:56:46 Yeah, ish. Yeah. We were Jews. So the one thing they encouraged was the music. Right. And so when I broke off and had a solo by kindergarten, they were like, and then by fourth grade when I was singing Jacques Brel, they were like. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:04 So you were clearly musical at a young age. Isn't it always the case? Or more often than not the case? And standing at my window going, I've got to get out of here. Let me jump. Or if I don't become a star, because clearly this box will save me. Because being in this house and on the windowsill going, I will get out of here and I will live to be a star. Everybody in this box looks happy and alive and well and rich, and I'll get out of this house alive.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Sound like Ray Allen. Watch my TED Talk, 2016. When you see the TED Talk, it's a 12-minute version of the whole book. There you go. That was the impetus of the book, and then you'll understand. Well, we don't want people to watch the TED Talk in lieu of reading your book. But it's a short, people have attention span and that's what, you know, you know what I'm saying. So I'm just saying, if you want to go jump to that and you don't want to read the book,
Starting point is 00:57:54 well, then you read the book because then you'd be more like, like, oh, maybe we want to hang on to Taylor a little longer because this is music in the TED Talk. I even sing in that, but not a lot. See, because it really is more in the TED talk I even sing in that but not a lot see because it really is more I actually did a talk but I put a little bit of my younger self into my musical like like honestly I was in love with the Carpenters as a child oh my god me too Karen Carpenter was the most purest voice. And those records are really good. I mean, they're- Oh my God, Close to You is one of my top 10 songs of all time.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I must say, Rainy Days and Mondays just kind of gives me the blues. They get you down? Does get me down. That song does get me down. But I like a lot of their other stuff. But- What do I know about that one song? Ruth of Andros covered.
Starting point is 00:58:43 What is that song called? A long ago. Don't remember. Superstar. But, um... We're going to get that one song Ruth of Andros covered. What is that song called? Long ago Don't you remember Superstar. Superstar. Don't you remember You told me you loved me, baby Ooh.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Don't you remember What a song. Taylor is great a cappella. She's the real thing. You know, a lot of these stars nowadays, you know, you turn off the electricity and it's not so terrific.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Am I right? I mean, without mentioning names. That's why certain people have longevity. I mean, you know, it's like. Just have plenty of what? Without mentioning names. You're going to start game dropping. I'm going to start picking up some quarters off the floor.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Good. We've got to start picking up some quarters off the floor. Good. We've got to wrap it up, Dan. We're late. Unless Ray is dying to ask one last question. Have you done a lot of duets, Taylor? And if so, who are you the most excited to get to sing with? No, I write songs. I don't necessarily write duets.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I mean, perform a duet with anyone that was so thrilling. I know some people, Paul Shaper had said he was so excited to perform with James Brown. So is there anyone that you performed with that you were like, oh my God, I'm performing with? Well, never. Well, I wrote a song that Tina Turner recorded. I think I'd be damn excited if we sang that together. My God. Well, maybe you could sing Islands in the Stream sometime
Starting point is 01:00:09 with Noam at the Omen. Sing with Dan. Dan loves to sing duets. Or Summer Lovin' from Greece, Dan. That's one of your karaoke favorites. Paradise by the Dashboard Lights is my karaoke. Oh, that's a good one. That's my karaoke duet.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I've had the pleasure of singing with Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins. I mean, more than the pleasure. Michael was a, you just, you can't, I love singing with Michael McDonald more than life itself.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Kenny Loggins. I was a huge Loggins and Messina fan. I sang with me, Paradise by the Dashboard Lights. It was unbelievable. Wow. Smokey Robinson. What a dream. Oh, wow. I've had the privilege well taylor they all have i've had many privileges in my life many many joyful moments
Starting point is 01:00:53 they all had the privilege to sing with you and as well i but you asked me so i know i've had this marvelous privilege boys to men travis Tritt, just incredible times. And Daniel Elliott Natterman. Well, we didn't sing together. I sang the na-na-na-na-na part. That counts. Amen. That's one of the greatest, perhaps, certainly amongst the greatest non, non, I don't even know how you would call it,
Starting point is 01:01:23 in songs where they just sing like, you know, like with Hey Jude, like na-na-na-na, you know, na-na-na-na-na-na. So like, songs have
Starting point is 01:01:31 Hey Jude in their own category. Yeah, that's a whole category of songs with that na-na-na. It is a na-na. Yeah. So that's one of the best na-nas,
Starting point is 01:01:39 I think. Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Oh, yeah. So why don't we just uh sum up uh taylor's um you know uh credits or plugs or whatever uh she's got her book out called um well you know to my heart how i lost my shit conquered my fear and found my voice and i mean there's nothing like a good musician memoir they're almost always interesting because who lives a more interesting life than a musician? My mother.
Starting point is 01:02:12 By the way, you look fantastic. Oh, you're so sweet. Thank you, honey. You're very kind. Did I tell you to fuck off once before? I take it all back. I can take it back. I have the power to take it back.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I said it in a Bette Midler way. So here we go. We take it all back. At some point, everybody is told to fuck off. What's that? At some point,
Starting point is 01:02:36 everyone's told to fuck off and they take it back. No, but I said it about Vivian and he knows it's Cafe Watt. That doesn't count. And many of those people are off on tour
Starting point is 01:02:44 with somebody else. For your personal appearances, is there a place, a website or a place that one can find out where Taylor's coming? Will she be? Of course.
Starting point is 01:02:52 It's COVID. It's all the tour. It's COVID. It is postponed and it's all that. But yes, of course. I think September in Pennsylvania
Starting point is 01:02:59 might still go. It's weird looking. We're hopeful. But yeah, but my new single comes out, please please and you can check that out look at my you know websites but please and joanne will give you all that too so norm make sure you check that out too the new single comes out july 8th please it's looking hot so
Starting point is 01:03:17 no i'm not so taylor dane.com i guess is the place the clear for all things taylor day why any for all you porn star lovers it's not d-a-n-N-E for all you porn star lovers. It's not D-A-N-E. Oh, is there a porn star? You know why he's laughing? Because there was a porn star. D-A-Y-N-E. D-A-N-E. Yes. I'm not D-A-N-E. I'm D-A-Y-N-E. Like a day. A day. So just also to our listeners,
Starting point is 01:03:39 you can send us suggestions, comments, critiques at podcast at comedyseller.com. And Perrielle, what's our Instagram? Live from the table. And that's it. Thank you, Taylor, for joining us. Thank you, guys, so much. Thank you, Aruba Ray.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Thanks, Ray. This was fun. Great to see you again, Taylor. I can't believe you're going to Aruba. Say hi to the folks there. Calm down, please. Maybe I will when you let me know it's like A-O-K. Okay. But I have to do work in Miami.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Like, it looks like I sold the apartment, so. Oh, wow. When you come to New York, call the Comedy Cellar. I'm going to go to, yeah. Sorry we're taking care of you. You've got a lot of invitations, Taylor, but no, I'm just adding to it with the Olive Tree Cafe. Oh, to the Comedy Cellar. The Comedy it with the Olive Tree Cafe. Oh, the Comedy Cellar.
Starting point is 01:04:26 The Comedy Cellar or Olive Tree Cafe and all food items half price for Taylor Day. Unbelievable. We'll just work our way through the Caribbean too. Why not? We'll see you all next time on Live from the Table. Thank you so much. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Bye. Bye.

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