The Commercial Break - 12 Days Of TCB: Drama Drops & Yule Logs

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

Episode #654: The 12 Days of TCB begins, and we are starting this off the only way we know how: drama dropping some hot goss about our guests! Donate to St. Jude & The National Breast Cancer Coalition... Fund Happy 12 Days of TCB! Bryan isn't into The Bear Billy Strings The end of the Eras Tour We are supporting St. Jude! DRAMA DROP! Our favorite and least favorite guests Yule Logs & Tree Lightings Text us or leave us a voicemail: +1 (212) 433-3TCB Follow Us: IG: @thecommercialbreak TikTok: @tcbpodcast YT: youtube.com/thecommercialbreak www.tcbpodcast.com Executive Producer: Bryan Green Hosts: Bryan Green & Krissy Hoadley Producer: Astrid B. Green Producer & Audio Editor: Christina Archer Christina’s Podcast: Apple Podcasts & Spotify To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:00 The next episode of The Commercial Break starts now. And we're gonna have the hap-happ-happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby tap-danced with Danny fucking Kane. Oh yeah, cats and kittens, welcome back to The Commercial Break. I'm Brian Green. This is the jingle to my jingle. Chris and Joy Hoadley, best to you, Chris and... Best to you, Brian.
Starting point is 00:02:17 ... the best to you out there in the podcast universe. Welcome to the first annual, the inaugural, 12 Days of TCB. Don't you feel privileged and special? Doesn't this feel very like a totally different episode than normal? Yes, it does. I'm wearing my festive clothing. Kristin's got her, Chrissy's got her festive,
Starting point is 00:02:37 what is that, a shirt over there? It's a festive shirt with a bow. I was hoping you were gonna wear a bra, like one of those. A sparkly Christmas bra? Like, is like in the in the vacation movies how what was her Beverly D'Angelo would always come out with a festive negligee on that's right I was hoping you're gonna wear a festive negligee. Well I guess we all lose on this one. We all lose except for Jeff. Jeff's the only winner of this one. The 12 Days of
Starting point is 00:03:04 TCB thank you very much. This will start the first of 12 episodes of the commercial break every single day. Why I agreed to this, I have no fucking clue, but here we are doing it as we all rake ourselves over the cult. You know, our network comes to us with great ideas that I just agree up. I just agree.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I don't know why I'm just an agreeable guy. I'm like yeah, that sounds great How many bonus episodes you need? 30? Sure, why not? Yeah, well you agreed months ago So you know it's one of those things where it sounds like a good idea until you're doing it Well listen it's it sounded like really good news when they came to me because they were like listen There's pressure on inventory in December We're gonna need to get extra bonus episodes out there. And I'm like, sure. And they're like, so can you come up with an idea for a bonus episode or two?
Starting point is 00:03:50 And then I come up with the 12 Days of TCB, 16 extra episodes. There you go. There's like only two days of December where we're not putting out an episode. I know. It's fantastic. We're in it now. Well, listen, we're gonna take it with a smile and grab your mistletoe and your mistletoe below and we'll all get through it together.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I was thinking about the 12 days of TCB and I was watching The Bear, which I have started now. Hot take. Good for you. Hot take, not my favorite show in the world. Years later. Yeah, six years later, Brian starts The Bear. We actually had like a night with nothing, I mean, a night where Astrid and I put the
Starting point is 00:04:31 kids to bed and we were both still awake with a little bit of energy left in the tank. Right, which is rare. Yeah, and so she says, let's watch a show, let's get into a show. I'm like, all right, which show? The Bear. Okay, sounds great. I like that idea. Everyone's been talking about it since
Starting point is 00:04:46 2017 let's get into that show and here's my hot take loved the music I mean the music yeah, the music's great. This soundtrack to the bear is fucking fantastic anytime Wilco Pearl Jam and Beastie Boys is in a first episode You can pretty much be guaranteed that the soundtrack is incredible. But I didn't love the show itself. I liked it, I didn't love it. But, you know, I don't know. Maybe there's been buildup for you because everybody's been saying how great it is and it's fantastic. And then now you have these huge expectations. Like a lot of the women in my life.
Starting point is 00:05:20 So give it some time. Like a lot of the women in my life, the buildup was huge and then it was such a let down. Yeah. I will, I'm going to see it through. Yeah, give it some time. I've only gone through two episodes. But I don't get, can you explain to me why the bear in the cage at the beginning of the show?
Starting point is 00:05:37 It's been so long since I watched that first season. I can't even remember the bear in the cage now. It's the very first scene of the very first show, the bear comes out of the cage. And at first I thought, is there some like- Symbolism? Symbolism there for Chicago and the bears and the cubs. And so I thought maybe that's why they call him the bear, but maybe I just haven't gotten to the part where they explain why he's called the bear.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Fill me back in on that. Okay, I will. But let me ask you about another part in the show that maybe somebody out there can explain to me. There is, this noted James Beard award-winning chef comes back home after his brother dies to take over his Italian beef sandwich shop, which, okay, let's suspend disbelief just for a second that the James Beard award winner is coming back to the Italian Beef Shop in Chicago. He comes, but then there are flashbacks of when he is working at like French Laundry and MoMa and these, you know, incredible fancy restaurants. And then I can't remember the guy, the guy who used to do talk soup, what was his name?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Jol McHale? Jol McHale. Jol McHale comes in, he plays an executive chef at what I think is MoMA or French Laundry. That's right. I forgot about that. And then he's like talking to him in his ear and he is just degrading. He's like, you go die. You should die. That's how terrible you are.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And I thought to myself, that seems a little bit unrealistic. Maybe this is dreamlike. No, there's been exposés on these like really, you, high-end restaurants, how the main chef is just awful. Well, I know main chefs can be awful. I've seen it in action. But Go Die? Yeah, I know. It gets extreme. Yeah, I mean, the way that they show the upper, like, the part of his career where he was in these very fine dining, like like the best restaurants in the world, like French Laundry, is intense and it's whitewashed and it's like a, I don't know, like a, it's
Starting point is 00:07:33 like an army. If all the chefs are like in an army and they all are directed by a general and that general is no holds barred and he's going to break you down and build you back up, I suppose. But I've been with, I've worked in a lot of restaurants and I've worked with a lot of asshole chefs. It tends to be, I guess that's the way a chef has to be, is to get everybody in line, he has to make sure that everything's up to standards and up to snuff. But that seemed to be me to be a little bit unrealistic that a chef would say, go die. But you've read an expose where these chefs are... Yeah, no, I mean, well, Anthony Bourdain's book, you know, that came out, Kitchen Confidential,
Starting point is 00:08:09 talks a lot about it too. You know, so it's kind of a thing. And I think there was a backlash, I think there's been a backlash from all of that toxic workplace behavior. Okay. All right. That's, I don't know. Okay. So I'm going to, I'm going to, so I'm going to keep going with the bear and we'll see what happens. But I wasn't, like the first two episodes didn't get me. I wasn't like Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul where I was like, oh my God, I got to watch the rest. I can't wait for the next episode to come out. So tell me about your weekend. You texted me and said you have to hear about my weekend. You texted me and said, you have to hear about my weekend. Oh, God, I know. It was fun. It was a lot of fun. We went to Billy Strings on Friday night.
Starting point is 00:08:51 How was Billy Strings? Billy Strings was really good. I had not been to a just a straight Billy Strings concert. Okay. I had seen him. Have you been to a gay Billy Strings concert? I've not. Okay. No, neither.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Check it. I've seen him play at festivals and different things before. Yeah, me too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, and he's great. But yeah, the show was amazing. It was, the light show was really incredible and the visuals that they had up there, it
Starting point is 00:09:16 was a lot different than I expected. I think there was five maybe people up on, five or six people up on the stage. Five musicians? Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. and it was good. It was something that I didn't expect. Does Billy Strings have like a Pink Floyd-like light show that's going on while he's playing?
Starting point is 00:09:32 It definitely had like, it had kind of a- Fishy vibe. Fish, Weisberg, Panicky type vibe to it. So that was interesting and good. Where did he play? Bluegrass isn't my favorite go-to genre of music. I think Billy Strings has kind of made it a thing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I can appreciate it though. So yeah, I really enjoyed it. Where did he play? He was in Memphis at the FedEx Forum. He was at the FedEx Forum. So big arena for two nights. For two nights? Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:59 So that's what, like 12,000 people? Something like that. Something like that. So 24,000. I mean, Memphis, I think, would be a place where Billy Strings would do well. So big light show. Billy Strings plays bluegrass. I do like bluegrass. He plays more of, I think, a mainstream version of bluegrass. He makes it accessible in a lot of ways. He's also the second fiddle, no pun intended. He's the second fiddle to a lot of other musical acts. You know, he shows up places and he steals the show.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And then I think that makes people wanna go and see. I mean, there are videos out there of Billy Strings playing like a basement at the end of a party to like two people playing a song and they're blown away. And the videos are grainy and awful. And he's just, he's really amazing at what he does. I agree, I agree. So encourage people to check him out.
Starting point is 00:10:46 So I would imagine that everyone was sober at the Billy Strings concert. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I got handed a double tequila right when I first got there. Oh, you did? Is there a big scene at a Billy Strings concert? There seemed to be.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Is there a shakedown street? No, well, we didn't go to the shakedown street. Are there string heads? There might beakedown street. Are there string heads? There might be a string head. Are there string cheese heads? I don't know. Are there people who go? I think there's definitely a base
Starting point is 00:11:12 that is following him around. Is he doing like 200 nights a year? I mean, I know he's doing 200 nights a year somewhere, like with somebody, he's showing up places and he's doing things. But I'm interested to know if Billy Strings is like a fish type tour person. Is he really hitting the road a lot?
Starting point is 00:11:29 I guess you must be, if you have a light show and all that, you must be doing a lot of shows in a row. Because that's a big investment that you gotta make. Speaking of big shows, Taylor Swift ended her Eris tour. As we're recording this over the weekend. I mean, yeah, you'll hear this on Friday, so over the weekend, and apparently that left a lot of people distraught, including myself, because now what's my wife gonna talk about? I mean, what's gonna go on for the-
Starting point is 00:11:54 1.5 What an amazing thing to go, I mean, how long has it been going on for two years? 2.5 Years, I think, I don't have all the details, but it certainly is. So Astrid was sharing with me, I said, you know, she was sad in a way, and she goes, I don't know, I don't know all the details, but it certainly is. So Astrid was sharing with me, I said, you know, she was sad in a way. And she goes, I don't know, I don't know why I feel like this. The end of an eras? The end of an eras is an end of an era, right?
Starting point is 00:12:14 And she said to me, you know, I don't feel like I've ever felt connected to an event, a musical event in the way that I felt connected to the eras tour. And over 10 million people have come in and out of the turnstiles to see her perform this show. I think we can all agree the Eras Tour is probably the most successful live production that has ever been put on of any show. I mean, maybe with the notable exception of like Broadway plays that have been going on forever and ever, like Phantom of the Opera or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:44 True. exception of like Broadway plays that have been going on forever and ever, like Phantom of the Opera or whatever. True. Um, but as far as musical acts are concerned, you know, pure live music acts, I think Taylor Swift has put on the biggest, the best, and the most attended, certainly the most, the highest grossing. Oh, yeah. And there are just so many little details that people have hung on to that then Taylor
Starting point is 00:13:03 makes special for the audience. That's sweet. That is, I think I can understand where Astrid is coming from. She's gotten really involved in those little details and it's made it fun for her to see which dress she wears. Yeah, the community of people talking about it too. Which song is she going to play? Who's the little kid who's going to get the hat in the middle of the set?
Starting point is 00:13:22 All the other little things that people have kind of gravitated toward that have made the Eris tour so special and have given people a reason to pay tens of thousands of dollars to see it. I mean, it is insane. I can't remember ever in my lifetime, maybe with the exception of the Michael Jackson Bad Tour, I cannot remember people going as crazy over a musical event as they have over the Eras Tour. So the Eras Tour comes to an end. So Astrid was like, it's just sad, there won't be another Eras show and you know, whatever, I won't get to see this person talk about this and content that she's basically been ingesting online. And I explained to her, I said, don't be so sure that this is the last Ares show that's ever been. When you spend a billion dollars on a stage and all
Starting point is 00:14:08 of the equipment and all of the- Oh no, I mean she's definitely gonna tour again. She'll tour again, but will she do the Ares tour? Will she do the Ares show again? And I said, don't be so sure, it's all over. There's a possibility that there's a big paycheck. Ticketmaster says or Live Nation or whoever the fuck is fucking us right now says, hey, listen, we'll give you another billion dollars to get out there on the road and do another hundred shows. And I think that's the way it happens a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I think, you know, and she said, well, she's a billionaire and she doesn't need to, you know, make us well, it's what they do. It's like, that's what they do. It's like a Billy Strings or a fish. I don't think that Billy Strings or a fish. I don't think that Billy Strings or a fish, and I don't even think of Billy Strings, need to be on the road making additional funds. It's what they do. They're in love with that. With making the music, connecting with the fans.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Connecting with the fans, making a billion dollars, getting high and blow jobs all the time. I mean, what could you possibly, you're a verified rock star, and I think we can all agree that's something somewhere deep down in us that at some point we've all wanted to be just a little bit. At least I have. Yeah, for sure. I was a rock star for a minute.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I just didn't have anybody showing up to my shows or get any money or have a record album or anything. Or cocaine and blowjobs. Cocaine and blowjobs I got on occasion, but I had to work hard for it. It wasn't... It wasn't as good. I had to work hard for this guy that cocaine and does blow jobs. It didn't come naturally like I'm sure it does to Billy Strings.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Billy Strings married? Ah, I don't think so. We know so much about Billy Strings here. I do know that he's sober, so he's not doing cocaine and blow jobs. I did know that too. I think he had his moment and he shared, I think sober with, but smoking marijuana. Something like that. Something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:55 He's married. He's married? Oh, he's married. How old is Billy Strings? 32. He's 32. He's very young. He is young. Yeah, he's young and he's been in the spotlight since he was like 18 years
Starting point is 00:16:04 old, I think. True. He's been in the spotlight for a long time. He's not taken any kind of traditional road to success like Fish or Widespread or Grateful Dead or whatever. He's just kind of been out there touring, making a name for himself and he's... I don't have anything to complain about with Billy Strings. Danielle Pletka No, it was a great concert. Jared Sussman Today is the very first time I've ever heard the name Billy Strings. You've never heard the name Billy Strings? No? No shade, no tea, but I haven't.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Hey, listen, okay, it's just not your thing. Yeah. It's all right. Listen, there's a lot of musicians when I see them on Instagram and I'm like, who the fuck is that? Yeah, there's a lot of times when I see, I'll see someone post something and they're at, and I listen, there's a whole different universe of Latina and Latino artists that I really have no idea about. Oh yeah, I guess you've been introduced to a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Well, living in a household with Venezuelans, then you get introduced to some of them, at least. And I looked on my Instagram the other day, and I must have seen six, seven, ten, twelve, I don't know, a lot of posts of people who were down at the State Farm Arena for a Latino singer that I had never heard of, but apparently like four nights in a row he sold out State Farm Arena, State Farm Arena. And it's just, it's amazing to me, when I grew up, back in the 30s, when I was growing up and MTV was around, you were gonna know which artists were gonna sell out
Starting point is 00:17:33 State Farm Arena. Now, because of the internet, you can independently grow your audience and it can be, like, you can go under the radar for so many millions of people, but for the millions of people that love you, you're the thing, you can go under the radar for so many millions of people, but for the millions of people that love you, you're the thing, you're it. That's what I think also makes, like, what Taylor Swift did so quite amazing, is that
Starting point is 00:17:54 it doesn't matter if you like Taylor Swift, you hate Taylor Swift, you're into it, you're not into it, you know who the fuck Taylor Swift is. She's got to be one of the most famous people on earth, right? Right next to Billy Strings. Yeah, we're right there together. She's gotta be one of the most famous people on Earth. I would think so. Right? Right next to Billy Strings. Yeah, we're right there together. Christine is like, I don't know Billy Strings and I could give a shit about Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:18:12 It's okay, you're not a Swiftie. Us Swifties know each other. We have a special handshake. Yeah, you do, and bracelets. We have a special handshake with a Platinum American Express. We shake each other's hands. It's a white wink with a white American Express card. That's for sure. Hey, during the 12 days of Christmas, and we do have some special content coming up
Starting point is 00:18:33 after the break, but during the 12 days of Christmas, we are going to shine a light on certain charities that we would love to get a little extra attention during the holidays because we think they do some good. And we've done some research, I've done some research to make sure that they are not spending 98% of their budget on marketing. Like that cars for fucking kids. One, eight, seven, seven cars for kids.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Nine, nine, nine, nine cars for kids. Our CEO makes $10 million cars for fucking kids. Exactly. What do you do with those cars? I wanna know. Now you can give those cars? I want to know. Now you can give your house or a boat to them. We did a whole deep dive. When was that?
Starting point is 00:19:09 Two years ago or so? Two years ago. Yeah. On that whole charity. And yeah, they do not give a lot of their money to the kids. No, they don't give almost any of their money to kids. It's charity wrapped in charity, wrapped in charity. And then the CEOs and the executives are getting paid a fortune. And it's all tax
Starting point is 00:19:25 free thanks to, you know, the nonprofit system here in the United States of America. And that's how a lot of these nonprofits are actually. So when we're sharing with you information about these, please know that we've looked into them, we've given them to them ourselves. There's a site that you can go to. There is a site that you can go to. I went to that site. There you go. I did too. So today's charity will be the St. Jude Foundation, St. Jude's Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee. Yeah, based out of Memphis. They do a lot of good. Yeah. You have to have your hole in the head not to have heard of St. Jude, but St. Jude provides free care, travel, accommodations, accoutrements, and food to families whose child has, or child or children have been diagnosed
Starting point is 00:20:06 with terrible long-term or life-threatening illnesses, mainly cancer. So they provide that cancer care 100% free to families that otherwise could not afford it and they give some of the best medical treatment in the world to children. St. Jude's does this and they do it all on the backs of donations from people like us and organizations, stuff like that. But St. Jude's Hospital, one that I have been giving to for a long time. There was just a race when I was up in Memphis this past weekend. They do a lot of different like charity things. And while they also do a lot of commercials,
Starting point is 00:20:38 a majority of the money goes to actually caring for those children in dire situations. And what did the children do?. And what did the children do? Honestly, what did the children do? Leave them alone. Care for them. Give them some money. We'll put a link in the show notes directly to St. Jude so that, just to be clear about this, we are taking no money for these charities. We have nothing to do with them. We are not even- Don't send us the money. I mean, if you want to send us money. If you want to send us money. As our own charity. Buy a spot on our show.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Contact Odyssey, buy a spot on our show. Give us some sponsorship money. We'll take that. But honestly, I'd rather, I'd prefer you in this case to give it to St. Jude. So today's charity is St. Jude. We'll take a break and then we're gonna talk about Chrissy, our favorite and least favorite guests from 2024.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Drama drop. We'll be back. Have you been missing something from your life? Of course you have. You listened to the commercial break and what you've been missing is me, right? No? Damn. Well, if what you're missing is a little giggle, you should follow us on Instagram, at the commercial break,
Starting point is 00:21:46 and on TikTok at TZV Podcasts, because you know, we're posting clips, we're being silly, you'll get a little laugh out of it, I promise. If what you're missing is communication, text us or call us and leave us a voicemail at 212-433-3822, and someone will respond, definitely. Unless you're being creepy or mean, in which case we won't. And lastly, if what you're missing is a jaunt through the internet, check out our website
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Starting point is 00:24:33 Make some noise, BD. Timothy Chalamet, Edward Norton, Elle Fanny, Monica Barbaro, A Complete Unknown, Only in theaters Christmas Day. All right, and we're back. Chrissy, in the 200 plus episodes that we have done, we will have done in 2024, a large chunk of those, probably the most amount of time we spent on one particular subject has been interviewing celebrities, mainly comedians, actors and actresses here on the commercial break. It was a change that we made in season five. We typically said no guests because we couldn't get it right with
Starting point is 00:25:07 just the two of us, let alone adding a third voice into the room. But then things changed in season five and we decided, why don't we spice things up because variety is the spice of life. Let's change things up and let's add some guests into the mix. And so that's what we did. And unbelievably, the guests came. And they came, for what reason? I don't know. They probably fired their agents. I think they didn't know. No. A few times. They were like, who are these people?
Starting point is 00:25:36 I am 100% sure that the guests came having no clue. Actually, a few of them did come prepared. They did. A couple of them did. Like Hannah Berner said that she had listened to the show and she had mentioned that. And that felt very nice to me because Hannah was one of our first interviews and a big celebrity. Like Hannah Berner doesn't have to stop by the commercial break, but she did and she could not have been more pleasant as well as her husband, That's right. Des Bishop, who was one of my favorites for the year,
Starting point is 00:26:03 Des Bishop I thought was Hannah and Des, they were both lovely of my favorites for the year. Des Bishop, I thought, was Hannah and Des. They were both lovely. They're a great couple. Do you need me to remind you of who has shown up to the commercial break? Yeah, let's do it. Oh, you want me to tell you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Okay. Okay, starting backwards, I'm just gonna name a few. I'm not gonna go through every single one. Ron Funches, Nicky Jam, Jay Farrow, Reggie Watts made two appearances, Kelsey Cook, Morgan Jay, Doug Bass, Natasha Lojaro, Morgan Jay, Doug Bass, Natasha LeGarro, Doug Bass, which by the way is one of our most listened to episodes. That is just unbelievable to me.
Starting point is 00:26:35 No knock on Doug Bass, but of all the names I'm about to tell you, Doug Bass is probably one that you're not going to be familiar, or maybe you are, I don't know, who knows? Louis Black, Dulce Sloan, Gina Gershon, fortune, Fimster, a lot of good ones. Brian Moses, Scott, Mazda, Bernie, Tom, Papa, Sam Morrill, Rachel Feinstein was a ton of fun. Mo Welsh. I love Dez came in days. Bishop Hannah's husband, Margaret show, the great and powerful Margaret Cho. Mo Gilligan, Henry Hall and Daniel Thrasher from the television show Dinner with the Parents. Joe Dombrowski, Preacher Lawson, Brad Williams, Leslie Liao, Kyle Kanaan, Paul Scheer, Luenell, Joanna Hausman. So many. And of course, the one that you were not here for, which was Steve-O. Oh, that's right, Steve-O.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Steve-O also came in. And then our very first unfortunate victim of the commercial break-casting would have been... Oh, what was his name? Now I can't remember. Do you remember? Vir Das. Vir Das. That's right. Good old Vir Das. Yes. He was our guinea pig. He was our first. And we poked and prodded him.
Starting point is 00:27:45 We rolled him over. We put him on a spit and turned him. We tried to send him a pillow. So we tried to send him a pillow. All right, so now we're gonna give a little bit of the tea about some of the guests that we had. And this is not a shit talking session, but it is a shit talking session.
Starting point is 00:28:00 But we're also gonna keep praise on people that we like. So here we go. We're gonna give you the drama. Vir Das was our very first guest that we had and this, I think this brought quite a bit of anxiety to both Chrissy and I, but mainly me. As I ran around the studio trying to make sure that everything worked sweating profusely, I did so much research about Vir Das. To learn that Vir is quite the celebrity, maybe not here in the United States, although he does sell out a lot of venues. But if you get into India,
Starting point is 00:28:31 the Middle East, Vir Das is one of the biggest celebrities they have. And Vir agreed to come and talk to us. I think he was in Minneapolis or something waiting for a show. And he, the first thing that he did when he got on air was complain that the pillows in the United States were too fluffy, that in India they were just like flat. Yeah, they were like an inch thick and they were flat and they were hard. And he preferred his pillows that way. So, Veer suffered through an hour of Brian's
Starting point is 00:29:00 incredibly dumb questions and ass kissing. Veer took it like a champ and pretended like he liked us for an hour, sitting on the floor of this hotel room because he didn't like the pillows on the bed. When we got done, I contacted his agent and I thought, well, you know what a nice thing to do would be, Chrissy? Let's send him a pillow with like a flat pillow with the commercial break logo on it. That way, he'll remember us." And I contacted the agent and I said,
Starting point is 00:29:30 can we please have a forwarding address for Veer? We have something to send him. To which the agent politely responded, no. That's okay. No, that's okay. You can't send him anything. I think Veer based, I think, you know, the agent and Veer clearly saw us for what we were, a bunch of amateurs doing amateur hour inside of the commercial break. It's one of the few interviews that I got really uncomfortable with. It was just a total shit show from beginning to end.
Starting point is 00:30:02 If you want a good laugh, knowing what you know now, go listen to the Vir Das episode, which in my opinion is a train wreck from beginning to end, but maybe you have a different opinion. Tell me what your, what do you think was the worst interview that we did of the year? Not the worst guest we had, but the worst interview. Oh, the worst interview that we did. Well, it might have started off with Reggie Watts. I don't disagree. I don't disagree. We didn't really know how to take him and we heard some things, I guess maybe from other agents. I don't disagree with this. But it turned into being one of the best. Yeah of the best, yeah. And then he came back.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Reggie is a very He's very intellectual. He's an intellectual, and he's very out there. And he has his certain brand of comedy. He has a certain brand of humanity, quite frankly. Yeah. He's like just a unique, one of a kind individual. Never seen anybody like him.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Probably will never see anybody like him. All you have to do is watch 30 Minutes of Reggie Watts' standup to understand he is not, one of these things is not like the other and Reggie is that thing. And so, we had heard, because sometimes we get prepped by agents and stuff, you know, listen, Reggie is a certain way, but if he likes you, you know, it'll be a great conversation. The first 30 minutes of the first interview we did with Reggie are so incredibly painful. It is so incredibly painful that I just want to bail. That's all I want to do is bail because I'm not on the same wavelength. We're obviously not speaking the same language. And I don't know what changed it. It was our talk of drugs.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Talk of drugs, yeah. I thought to myself, he talks about drugs a lot, so why don't I just throw that out there? And I did. And it changed the entire tone and tenor of the conversation. And all of a sudden, Reggie and I had something to talk about. And he was a sweetheart then. He ended up sending us the case of the special drink. He ended up sending us our very first guest gift, and he to come back and I thought that that just tickled me pink In the second time we spoke to him. It was as if we had tuned in to the same channel Yeah, we were old buddies and I just love Reggie. I think I do too I've I admire him and I think that's why the first 30 minutes of the first interview
Starting point is 00:32:19 His own drum for sure. I love that and now he's in love and I like the in love version of Reggie Something about that makes me very happy every time I see him. He's always posting, kind of weird, a little bit admirable. He's admiring his girlfriend from afar. She's doing something and he's videotaping her and then he posts. It's a little creepy, but I like it. It's like he's doing it out of love and I can appreciate that. Reggie Watts, that's very interesting. Who else did you think was a unique interview? I'll tell you one of mine. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I think I know who you're gonna say. Well, I'm gonna save that for last. I'm gonna save the worst for last. Okay, go next. But I'm gonna share with you that Brad Williams was another wild card. That was. That was hard.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I could see Christina cringing in the background. Brad Williams, who is extraordinarily popular comic. I mean, he is just selling out room after room after room. He's been doing it for a long time, but Brad Williams, like a lot of comics, comes with their own set of baggage. And that baggage had us a little bit, it had us questioning whether or not we should actually interview Brad Williams. But I thought to myself, well, okay, maybe we'll
Starting point is 00:33:33 bring Brad on. And if the opportunity presents itself, we'll ask the tough questions about some things that he said during an interview about his early days as a comic. And I won't get into all the details, you can Google Brad Williams, it's all over the internet. But I thought, okay, the opportunity presents itself. Let's ask him that question and we'll see how he responds. The opportunity did not present itself. Because Brad Williams launched into a whole 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I don't think we got much in. Brad Williams did his entire set for us and it took him about an hour. Actually, you know what? I don't even think he did a set. I think I asked him about a wrestling cruise and he went on for an hour about wrestling. It was the most unbelievable thing.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I've never seen anybody talk like that for a straight hour without any breaks. But at the end, I found Brad to be at least an enjoyable human being. I didn't have to do much work for that interview. Let's see who else was interesting. Margaret Cho I saw was one of my favorite guests of the year and here's why. Margaret Cho is a legend. I mean I think she'd have to be on the top of anybody's stand-up comic list. In history Margaret Cho like a groundbreaking, for so many
Starting point is 00:34:46 different reasons, comic, a female comic. And when you have like a legend on the show, you... It's a little intimidating. Well, you wonder if they come with legend attitude. No legend attitude about Margaret Cho whatsoever. No, she was like laying down, I think. She was laying down petting her doll in San Francisco. She was like, hey guys, and we're like, hey Margaret Cho. I know.
Starting point is 00:35:11 And there was just no pretense about her whatsoever. And I found that to be- She was very easy to talk to. Yes. Steve-O was an interesting interview. Yeah, I wasn't here for that. Chrissy had been called away. So I called Tina and I said, Tina, I know you grew up watching
Starting point is 00:35:29 Steve-O, so you'll know who Steve-O is. Can you please come in and do this interview with me? It was our second interview ever and Steve-O's walking in the door. So, Tina comes in and I said, okay, Tina, I'll take it. I'll ask the questions. Just jump in whenever you want to. Like just, you do whatever you want. And Tina said, okay. Not only was it Tina's first time ever meeting a celebrity, it was Tina's first time ever on a microphone.
Starting point is 00:35:55 On the microphone, yeah. So Tina, I don't know any other way to put this, was a deer in the head like, I had to ask for 60 straight minutes. But something so comforting about having my good friend in the head like that for 60 straight minutes. But something so comforting about having my good friend in the room when I was doing an interview with someone. Cause that was a little,
Starting point is 00:36:13 had to be a little intimidating too. I think Steve-O was one of the more intimidating ones simply because Steve-O, you think of Steve-O, he's a wild card. Like what are you going to get with Steve-O? He staples his balls to his leg for a living. I mean, what are you going to get with Steve-O? Are you going to get crazy wild man? Is he going to do some stunting? Is he going to bring in some bullshit? Is he going to
Starting point is 00:36:38 be in character for some reason or another just to kind of throw you off because that's better content for him or for you. We didn't know what to get. And what we got was a very down-to-earth, pleasant guy. I was actually surprised at the level of maturity that came in the door. Yeah. And no stapling of the balls, which disappointed me just a little bit, just a little bit if I'm being honest. I thought maybe go ahead and staple your butt. And Steve-O certainly told one of the best stories that's ever been told on the commercial break. He explained serendipitously, as we would talk
Starting point is 00:37:09 about Mike Tyson a lot in the future, later on in the year, he explained that he had done an eight ball of cocaine with Mike Tyson in a bathroom in Las Vegas. Yeah, it was wild. Like, I was so floored by this that you would go in to a bathroom with a certified killer, like a guy who could knock you out and murder you in one punch. His hands are weapons.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And let's face it, Mike Tyson has not always been known to be the most mentally stable human being in the world. And then you add in an eight ball of cocaine into the mix. Only Steve O could feel comfortable in that situation. They locked themselves in a bathroom, did an eight ball of cocaine, and spent a long night having conversation with each other. Um, you know, I don't think I would do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I just don't think I would do the same thing. Okay, favorite guest of the year. Favorite conversation of the year. That's hard to narrow down. It doesn't have to be the forever. I love Tom Pappas. Tom Pappa was very good. He was really good.
Starting point is 00:38:15 I really, I did, I loved Hannah Berner. I loved Natasha Lejaro. Lejaro. Leona. Leona, which we both keep doing. I liked Fortune. She was great. Fortune was fantastic. Mm-hmm. I mean, the majority of everybody has really been a great guest. Even if I wasn't
Starting point is 00:38:33 that familiar with their work beforehand, then afterwards, oh, I mean, well, Heather McMahon. Heather McMahon. Yeah, she was amazing. I did not know who she was. And keep forgetting that she was honored. And now I'm a huge fan of hers. Heather is a rocket ship to the moon. I mean, that lady doesn't stop. She was also very pleasant with us when clearly
Starting point is 00:38:52 we had no fucking clue what we were doing. It was like our third interview or something. Yeah, it was our third interview. We had no clue what we were doing and Heather handled it like a champ. Like she, and it's, you, there are, I've learned now that we've done a number of these, I've learned, like, people come in one of two ways, one of three ways. They come in, they can see it's amateur hour, and they become the professionals and help guide us. In other words, they're the ones interviewing
Starting point is 00:39:22 us, they're taking the lead and just making sure that everything is okay, so that they don't sound like idiots and we don't. Number two, they come in and just act a little bit off. Like now it's amateur hour and I'm gonna make them feel like it's amateur hour. In other words, they're not so nice, right? Or number three, they don't know what to think, so we all end up being friends. You know what I'm saying? So they don't know what to think, so we all end up being friends.
Starting point is 00:39:45 You know what I'm saying? So they don't know what to think, so they just end up having a conversation about things. Which I think would be probably our style of interviewing is more, let's just have a conversation. Because anytime I try and do too much research about a guest, it ends up sounding like Vir Das. In 1997, you won an award for most peaceful Indian comic ever. Tell me about that. Yeah, it's sounding like such a shit show. Natasha Lajaro was fun. I think, who is my favorite interview of the year?
Starting point is 00:40:19 I think it would definitely would have to be either, Fortune, Dez, or Hannah would be one of those three. But Tom Papa comes in a very close second than any of us. I had been a fan for so long. Well, I think because Tom Papa talks to so many, like he has, that's what he does for a living. You know, he's got the Tom Papa breaks bread or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:40:39 What is that? Tom Papa breaks bread? Is that what it is? I think so, yeah. Tom Papa breaks bread. That's a show we just made up that Tom is gonna be doing here too. It does involve bread. It does involve bread.
Starting point is 00:40:47 He makes bread. Tom Papa's bread. He cooks bread. Tom Papa Cooks Bread. Tom Papa. Tom Papa Cooks With You. Do you know the name of that show? Tom Papa Podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I'm looking. I think it's Tom Papa Breaks Bread. It's Breaking Bread with Tom Papa. Breaking Bread with Tom Papa. Okay, I was close. I think it's Tom Papa Breaks Bread. It's Breaking Bread with Tom Papa. I just searched Tom Papa Bread. We were so close. We were so close. But I would now like you to think about this over the break, Chrissy. I would like you to think about who your least favorite guest of the year was.
Starting point is 00:41:24 This is going to be the drama drop. I want you to think of your least favorite guest, and year was. This is going to be the drama drop. I want you to think of your least favorite guest, and I want you to think of why, and you must tell us here on the very first day of the very first 12 days of TCB, where you are going to make sure that we have no interviews in 2025 by talking the shit out of one of the guests that we don't like. I think we're going gonna have the same guest.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I think it's gonna be the same person. Yeah, I think so too. Because I think it was clear, probably even to the audience, that this was not going well. But if it's not, then we'll, you know, we'll... I guarantee this will become the most listened to episode of the commercial break after we tell you who our least favorite guest was.
Starting point is 00:42:02 So let's do this. Let's take a break. And we'll be back on the first 12 days of TCB. We'll be back. Brian might have just said it's time to take a break, but some of us have to work right now. And by work, I mean gently nudge you, nay, beg you to follow us on Instagram, at The Commercial Break, and on TikTok, at TCB Podcast.
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Starting point is 00:42:50 Okay. So we're here on the first of 12 days of TCB, brand new episodes for the next 12 days, taking you through your Christmas. Grab your Yule log and your other Yule log. Grab them both and grab a hot toddy. A Yule log is the picture, like a fireplace with that log that's burning. Well, no, but I think there's an actual like- They make something called the Yule log that you can go and you can buy and it burns and I don't know what it's made of. I gathered that. Yeah. Actually, I think a Yule log is, I've seen these in Germany, isn't it, where they split them open and they set them on fire? It's a cake.
Starting point is 00:43:30 A ue log is a cake? I guess it's also. Okay, have you ever heard of like a buche de Noël? A buche de what? I don't know how to say it, but buche de Noël? A buche de Noël, exactly. It's like a Christmas roll cake. Yeah, okay. Like, you ever seen those? I've seenël, exactly. It's like a Christmas roll cake. Yeah. Okay. Like, you ever seen those?
Starting point is 00:43:47 I've seen those. Because it looks like the fire a lot, but it's pretty. I've seen those on the roll cakes, yeah. Food channels. Yes. But it is a... Oh, there is a really good one with chocolate and... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yeah. Specially selected log burnt on a hearth as a winter tradition in regions of Europe. Yeah. And now in North America. Specially selected log. Yes. I was just telling Astrid this. So, we went on Friday to the local tree lighting ceremony here.
Starting point is 00:44:07 The local tree lighting ceremony, they block off the streets, Starbucks brings free hot cocoa. They have s'mores in bags and they have a bunch of fires. That sounds like fun. It does sound like fun except for one thing. They blow real snow around the tree in this little square. So they have real snow around the tree in this little square. So they have real snow, like half a foot of real snow in these grassy areas around the tree.
Starting point is 00:44:33 What do you mean real snow? I mean real, like, you know, fake snow, like actual snow, but it's actual snow. How can it be actual snow? They make, don't you know that they have snow machines that make actual snow? I didn't know that it was real snow. I thought it was fake snow. Oh, for skiing, okay, yeah. But I was like, it's cold enough there. Was it cold? I guess it must have been. It was cold enough on Friday to keep that snow high and tight. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Okay. So they blow a bunch of snow and then so the kids can, you know, have snowball fights, which just means a bunch of teenagers being shitty and throwing them at the parents, you know, because it's so dark out and the teenagers are back there making snowballs and just throwing them into the crowd, which fine, okay, we get it. There was actually one mother who ran in the middle of the square and started yelling at the teenagers. Everybody was afraid. I was afraid. I was like, hide your kids, hide your wife. This lady's on fire. It was the kind of mother that you probably don't want to be the child of and the kind of mother you don't want to be on the bad side of.
Starting point is 00:45:27 But okay, all right, so, you know, they have the whole thing and then there's a bunch of bars and restaurants and they serve Christmas flavored drinks or, you know, Christmas- Mold wine. Yeah, bold wine. Here's a hot potty. No, mold. Oh, mold wine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Oh God, mold wine is disgusting. Have you had mold wine? I have, yeah. With the cinnamon sticks and stuff in it? Oh, God, did you like it? I mean, it's kind of like a cider type thing. It's gross, yeah, it's gross to me. I like the way it smells.
Starting point is 00:45:52 It does smell delicious. I don't like the way that it tastes, but anyway. So we go there, it's minus 19 degrees outside. It is so incredibly cold. The kids do not want to bundle up because kids don't want to bundle up. They don't for some reason. Keep on trying to explain to them, get your gloves on, put your hat on, put a scarf on, it's really cold. Within seven minutes, you're going to be freezing and complaining,
Starting point is 00:46:13 and within seven minutes, they're freezing, they're complaining, but they refuse to put their gloves and their hats on. They just want me to hold them for my body. And I'm like, guys, this is not a doable thing. I can't have 13 of you hanging off me. So, let me explain. So, the kids, they're supposed to light this tree at seven o'clock. For the last couple of years, they've done this and they've lit the tree so late into the night that all parents around the entire town have been complaining, our kids need to go to sleep. Please light the tree quickly." So they have this tiny little stage that's set up. They have local organization after local organization singing terribly, you know, Christmas carols and the local band is up, the local string quartet is up there.
Starting point is 00:47:01 It's minus 19 degrees. I got news for you, your strings aren't gonna sound so good when it's 19 degrees outside, they're all out of tune. So, all the music is terrible, I mean, God bless them, they're trying, but all the music is terrible, everyone's cold, everyone's miserable, teenagers are throwing snowballs into the crowd. Danielle Pletka Sounds like a blast. Jared Sarkissian It was just miserable, the whole thing was miserable. And now I've got 13 to 15 children that are cold, and they go out and they play in the snow, and then they're complaining that their hands are cold.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And I'm like, what did you think snow was? Did you think snow was hot balls? It's not a call to hot balls, it's called a snowball, kids. It's freezing cold. So now one of the kids wants my gloves, because he can't put on his gloves, he wants my gloves. And I'm like, I'm supposed to suffer because you don't want to wear your gloves? I'm not that kind of parent, okay, kid? I don't want to suffer because of you. So, we go there. The most ridiculous thing is they can't, for the life of them, manage to get the tree lit in a reasonable,
Starting point is 00:47:59 decent hour. So, seven o'clock is supposed to be the tree lighting. Fine. Seven o'clock so that the kids can go home and go to bed by seven o'clock is supposed to be the tree lighting. Fine. Seven o'clock so that the kids can go home and go to bed by eight o'clock. Seven, seven ten, seven twenty, seven thirty. All of a sudden, everybody's clearing out because everyone, it's the whole crowd is like, and the crowd, let's be clear, is just little children. That's all it is. Who else wants to watch a tree lighting? I've seen a lit tree. I know what it looks like. I don't need to be excited with the moment that a tree lights. It's not something I'm interested in. It's for the kids! Light it at 545, please! For the love of Christ.
Starting point is 00:48:35 As soon as it gets dark. Amen, Chrissy. Amen. So, the uolog, Chrissy, also is a tradition that back in the day when they had the three networks, at a certain time on Christmas, they would put the euolog, the lit firelog. Okay, here's why I started this whole conversation in the first place. It was so cold out there, they could have had some additional fires. In Europe, when we went to a, Asher and I went to a theme park called Europa Land, and it was like the middle of January in Germany, it was freezing fucking cold. And at night, they have the roller coasters going and everything. There's no stopping
Starting point is 00:49:16 it. It's just, it's, you know, you're going to go on a roller coaster. It's 19 degrees outside. You're going to be freezing. But what they do have is they take these huge tree stumps, they cut them open, and they light them on, they're dried out, they light them on fire in the middle, and they burn forever. And they have them every 15 feet. So, the whole place is warmed up because you have all of these logs that are just burning. Why can't my local municipality do that? Who's in charge over there? Why are we so late? Why did we put real snow on the ground? And where are the Eulogs? I think you need to talk to your old friend, the politician that's wrote that. The mayor?
Starting point is 00:49:50 The mayor? Your child's school. The mayor? Yeah. The mayor, also known as, I'm not even going to say it because this episode is going to get shadow banned, but yeah, he should be in Germany as a, he should be in Germany as mayor of the town. That's my opinion. Okay, speaking of mayor in Germany, tell me who's your least favorite guest of 2024, Chrissy?
Starting point is 00:50:13 Well, I think we're on the same page. Probably. When I say Neil Brennan. Neil Brennan. I think Neil Brennan was my least favorite guest also. Not any shade on Neil. Listen, Neil is who Neil is. He just turned out to be the exact same person, which I had watched his special, which is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Fucking hilarious. It's hilarious. But it's also hilarious because of the way that his delivery is and the way he's so cynical. He's very pedantic. He's very, very dry. Very dry. Yeah. Very dour. But he turned out to be that exact same way for the interview.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Okay. And I think we were like, uh. So let's walk it through because it's very possible that we started off on the wrong foot with Neil. Actually, I felt like we started off on the right foot with Neil. Neil came in, we had a very pleasant conversation with him. He was very interested in what we were doing and, you know, Atlanta and all this other stuff. But as soon as we started to press record, I tried to ask him about something
Starting point is 00:51:13 in his special. And when I did, I tried to prompt him to tell one of his jokes. And in the process, he thought I was trying to tell his joke. Yeah, that's true. He said, no, don't worry about it. You go ahead and tell my jokes. And it went south from there. It didn't get any better. It did. It did. To be fair to Neil, this is amateur hour over here.
Starting point is 00:51:35 It's not like we're the best podcast that's ever lived. I'm not Dana Carvey at David's Space. And I don't stand up for a living, so I'm not one of them. As much as we like to get in conversations with stand-ups, we're not stand-up comedians ourselves. We don't know what that's like. We've never put together three minutes of good material, let alone an hour of good material. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:56 But I felt like maybe he could have been a little bit more gracious about the fact that, okay, you're here on a podcast, we're trying to promote your special and, you know, just roll with the punches, right? Yeah, I agree. But, and to be absolutely fair, let's just like lay the cards on the table. Neil is who Neil is, and Neil came in being exactly who Neil was. What you see is what you get. There is no two ways about it. I tried to ask Neil about ketamine and he explained that you probably
Starting point is 00:52:32 go watch the special. Also, he's like the youngest, I think, of 10 children or something, and he's had a lot of trauma throughout his life that he's widely talked about before. Well, that's his thing. That's widely talked about before. And, you know- Well, that's his thing. That's his whole shtick, right? Yeah. So, and I think it's part of the thing is that he's trying to work on himself and do
Starting point is 00:52:52 ketamine, ayahuasca, all of those kinds of things to look inside and get past this trauma that he has. But yeah, it was kind of like pulling teeth. That's part of- He could work a little harder. Says Christina. That is part of why I like Neil so much. That's part of why I enjoy his comedy.
Starting point is 00:53:13 That's part of why I was so excited and interested to interview Neil. He also has his own podcast, which is a fascinating podcast. And what you saw on the commercial break is what you get on his own podcast, which is a fascinating podcast. And what you saw on the commercial break is what you get on his own podcast, too. It's nothing different. It doesn't matter if you're famous, Neil comes at you the same way every single time. Neil, I don't know any other way to say this, but Neil reminded me of that guy in the room who's much too smart to be in the room. Do you know what I'm saying? Much too smart to be in the room, do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Much too smart to be in the room and then everybody knows it by the end of the night. It's kind of like, well, okay, yeah, all right. Yeah, I'm probably not going to invite him to
Starting point is 00:53:54 our next party, that's for sure. I want to say to… But his special is hilarious. All of his specials are hilarious. He's really good at what he does. And he co-created the Dave Chappelle show, which is one of the most brilliant sketch comedy shows, if not the most brilliant sketch comedy show that has ever been. So you want to talk to Neil Brennan, you're really interested in what he has to say. He's been so close to greatness.
Starting point is 00:54:24 He created greatness. And you're like, wow, that guy, he's probably a wealth of information. But, you know, when you come into the commercial break and Brian's doing your jokes for you, maybe you just feel like, I'm not going to go anywhere with that. I'm not going to try. Yeah, I mean, okay, fair enough. And so there we go, drama drop. Drama drop. Neil Brennan, our least favorite. And I forgot also that we-
Starting point is 00:54:47 And for no fault of his. No. No, it's our fault. It's all our fault. It's Brian's fault. Let it be Brian's fault. Let it be Brian's fault that Neil was a terrible guest. Now you'll go listen to that episode with a whole fresh set of ears.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Did you think that episode was bad, Christina? Are you kidding me? No, I want to know. Did you think that episode was bad, Christina? Are you kidding me? No, I want to know. Did you think the episode was bad? Yeah, it was so bad. I was cringing when I was working on it. Yeah, it was kind of painful. I was like, this is not good.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Yeah, training. Well, I just felt like he really could have been nicer. He could have been. And he really could have been like, just even a little bit fun. I think that's just his personality. I think that's just his personality. How do you get this far without being nice to people? Well, I don't understand. You know, I think there's lots of people out there who get pretty far without being nice to people.
Starting point is 00:55:40 But I understand like what you're saying. But I also think when you have the bona fides that he does, when you work on shows that get like our… That open doors. At the pinnacle of pop culture that opens doors and no one's going to turn you down. You're not going to be the co-creator of the Chappelle show when someone's not going to interview or you're not going to open the door, not going to take your pitch because that's… you created something that was so great. But then again, like you are coming on the commercial break.
Starting point is 00:56:07 True. So... He agreed to it, right? Yeah. Okay, I know, I take, I think the point, I think the point is well taken. Then again, maybe we just got who Neil is and maybe it just didn't sit well with us because I think generally, generally, even though when the guests are not here, we cut up, I may sound like a dick, we may say things that are, you know, off color, dour, sour, when
Starting point is 00:56:31 guests come in, we're pretty fucking nice. I think most guests would walk away with the sense that maybe I won't go back, but at the very least they were nice to me, right? And I'll never forget something that I think it was Rachel Feinstein said. Rachel Feinstein came on the show and she certainly didn't have to either. She's a big, huge success story. She comes on the show, we end up having a great time, she brings her aunt into the conversation at some point. Oh, that was so fun.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Remember that? Okay, so now it's a big party, everyone's having a great time. And then, as we usually do, we talk to the guests for a few minutes beforehand and we talk to them for a few minutes after without recording that part. So in this case, we say goodbye to Rachel, and I don't think she realizes that we are still listening to what she is saying. She's still being recorded on the thing. And she says to her aunt, wow, those people actually ended up being really nice. I really like them, as if I actually expected them to be a couple of assholes, right? Which was pleasant to hear. I don't think Rachel would mind me
Starting point is 00:57:39 saying, it was a nice thing to hear. I don't think she thought we were on the call and we were on the call and we were on the call and we heard it. So I think the thing you would take away is that we were nice. We tried to be with everybody this year, at least nice and welcoming. You're not, you know, this isn't a gotcha show. You're not going to come on here and we're going to drum up all your old dirt. We're not, you know, who's that guy? The guy who's, we're not Cat Williams. We're not going to throw a bunch of shit in your face. And so the fact that we tried our best to be nice to everybody, and sometimes that didn't
Starting point is 00:58:10 get responded to in the way that we wanted, you know, I guess, I don't know if that's the fault of ours or the fault of theirs, or it just didn't work out. It was like a bad date. It just didn't work out. And I'm not sure we're going to go on a second one. Yeah, with Neil. But I do have to say, besides that one experience, and maybe the fact that Vir Das will probably never ever say our name again out loud, I would say that all the other
Starting point is 00:58:32 interviews, in some way, shape or form, I enjoyed. Oh, me too. I really did. Definitely. There were a few I enjoyed more than others. Pleasantly surprised on quite a few of them. Wendy McCovey was another one that I really enjoyed. I really loved her.
Starting point is 00:58:46 She could have come in here. Her new show is good, actually. It's funny. Everyone's talking about it. St. Elsewhere, St. McCloud, St. McCloud's family. I think it's St. Dennis Medical. St. Dennis Medical is doing very well. It's a cute show. Yeah. Lunel came in. Oh, Lunel. And Lunel was super sweet. She was. Lunel is another like super, do you know that Lunel came in. Oh, Lunel. And Lunel was super sweet. She was. Lunel was another like super, do you know that Lunel is a bona fide superstar? Yeah, she really is. She is hanging out.
Starting point is 00:59:10 She's attending Madonna concerts with Paris Hilton and all these guys. Where did Lunel come from? Like I know that Lunel was a pretty popular character when they pitched us for her to come in the show, but then I was like, wait, I had no idea she was that famous. Yeah, she's like her own character too. I mean, remember she was wearing the funky glasses and you know, she's just got this kind of brash sense of personality and it was great.
Starting point is 00:59:38 You have to go watch that on YouTube because she's got like to-go boxes behind her. She's eating something. She's eating some kind of food while she's during the interview. Lunel was a great interview. We had a lot of fantastic guests this year and thank you, Chrissy, for sticking with me while I went on that. Well, I got that out of my system. You digged that out of your system. I got that out of my system. And I think there's another thing that we learned in 2024 that we may be more careful about in 2025. There is an overkill of guests. We also, I don't know if we need, you know, one guest a week. So in 2025, maybe we'll do a few less guests and we'll be a little
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