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So I'm going to go with that one. You're correct. Yeah. I think that... Although it seems like any of them could be true. Any of them could be true. But, you know, you don't sleep in your car when you're on tour. You're in a van or you're on a bus or something.

I mean, you could sleep in the van, but you don't sleep in your own car. It's not like you're following the guys around. I'll catch up with you. Hey, it's me, Eddie better in my station. I mean, it doesn't make much sense. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, yeah, Cass and kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break.

I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show. Chris and Joy Haudley. Best to you, Chris, Ed. Best to you out there in the podcast of Streaming Universe. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. Here we are.

Again, stream number two of the day. That's okay. I forgot the noise. That's okay. I know. I noticed that. There you go. All right.

I'll put that in in post. A little dolphin. We'll do it in post. We'll do it live. But once you're doing it live, it's just a whole different thing. You can't go backwards. I guess I could restart the show,

but then that would sound stupid to the people who are watching life. Whatever the fuck who cares. No one cares. No one cares. Well, it's Friday after Thanksgiving. If you're listening to the recorded version of this, if you're not, you're watching us on streaming,

then it's not Friday after Thanksgiving. We'll put it that way. And I associate that day, that particular day, that Friday after Thanksgiving, with music. Because when we were kids, it would be a popular thing, even for young kids, like 8th, 9th, 10th grade to get tickets to go see Driving and Crying at the Fox Theater. It was a benefit show that Driving and Crying did every year for like 12 years on that Friday after Thanksgiving. And even when they stopped doing it, then there was always some kind of music. It was a good night to go to the bars. It was.

I remember doing that and getting together with all your friends, drinking, smoking, music. All of it. All of it. Maybe a little Rochambo, a little hoity-toity. You know what I'm saying? A little bit of the old Colombian marching powder?

I don't do it, but I knew people who did do it. Yes. And they made me do it. And then I also knew people, who didn't make me do it, but I did it behind their backs. That's the kind of mean drug it was. It would take you over. Anyway, music and Thanksgiving, the day after Thanksgiving, go hand in hand.

It's just for me, at least. It was always live music the day after Thanksgiving. So it's befitting that Chrissy and I just are watching the videos like everybody else is of Stephen Wilson Jr. Yeah, CMAs. We're on last night. Last night as we're recording this. The CMAs are not something that I would normally watch. I'm not, I don't mind country.

Quite frankly, country music is pop music. Pop music is country music. It all kind of sounds the same now. There is no difference and there's good country music. Like there's good other kinds of music too. I don't consider Stephen Wilson Jr. A country artist, but that's my perspective. That's my purview on the whole situation.

But you found him a year ago. That's right. Keen-eyed listeners will know that I will know that I will, was popping around the internet, and I had been following three years ago. I talked about how down the street from where we're recording this, a guy that I had known many years ago from the music scene owned a print show. Jam land productions. Shout out. Jam land production. Shout out. Old school Jam land. Where's that Pete? Pete still

owns Jam land productions. I don't know how it's doing. I think they're doing bingo nights now or something like that. But shout out Jamland Productions. I knew a guy. who went on to own a print shop, like an actual print shop, like printing shit, like t-shirts and hats and stickers and all this other stuff. And then he moved his print shop into his house. And when he moved his print shop into his house, he was such a lover of music. And he knew like Angie Aparro, Francisco Vidal.

He was big into like the southeastern music circuit when I was, you know. Jamming. Yeah. When Chopper Johnson and 33 penis were taking over the southeastern. music circuit by Southeastern. I mean, mainly our practice space. But we were good there. And he decided he's going to install a bunch of cameras and really super professional audio equipment and was going to invite some of his favorite bands to come play in his fucking basement. And I've seen pictures of like tour buses rolling up to this residential neighborhood.

It's affluent, but it's a residential neighborhood. And unloading their shit to go into the print shop, quote unquote. So you can now go to YouTube live at the print shop is the name of the channel. It's the name of the Instagram. It's the name of everything. Give them some love because we're about to play some of their stuff. But he invited, he saw Stephen Wilson, Jr. in a bar in Nashville. And Stephen Wilson, Jr. was becoming big in Nashville in like 22 and 23. After he put out an album called Son of a Dad, after his father passed. And then he went on tour. He was opening up for people. And he started to gain some notoriety. Never heard a voice like this before. The way he plays guitar is haunting. It's a revelation. He is,

uniquely original. I mean, I don't know if you can be uniquely original, but he's extraordinarily original in his songwriting, in his music, and it is beautiful. And I don't know anybody who I've listened to this that doesn't think so. It's just, he's incredible, he's incredible singer-songwriter. And he's in his late 40s and now just coming into his own. I love that. I love it too. He's got a very unique aesthetic to his band, to his merch, to the, he's just, he's unique in all ways. And I love it and I love him. And he recorded an album live at the print shop where he did a version of Stand By Me as a cover. And then he did a song that he had not done on an album.

And it's called I'm a song. And that song to me, the song, I'm a song, is just so fucking incredible that anytime I listen to it gives me chills. And still, 150 times in, it gives me chills. So I'm going to play it here on the show. I don't know if there's a lot. I don't care really, you know, whatever. What are they going to do?

You know, what are you going to do? Take down the commercial break? Stronger men than you have tried. So I want to play this live at the print show. Oh. Sorry. It just kind of started there. But let me go over the explanation because he's going to talk about his dad

and how his dad thought this was his favorite song. So this is, I'm a song. from Stephen Wilson Jr. live at the print shop. Go check this out on YouTube. Give them the views too. All right, here it is. Yeah, I'll play it. It's a tough one for me to play.

But I'll do it anyway. This is called I'm a song. It was my dad's favorite song of mine. He told me it was his favorite song ever. This was like one of the last conversations we ever had. And this is one of those, why don't you just sing it conversation songs? And this is one of those songs that I told them, no, I don't do that. So I'm going to do that.

I'm the show in San Antonio, the middle of a... Daddy's hand that she used to hold when you walk back to the car. I'm a sound of the canny face. Ferris will kiss Is high up in the air I sip of brandy When your soul is bare And you need to share your heart

I'm the words That'll hit you That'll get you where you're going So you never go there alone I'm the melody glued to the memory That you can't shake When it comes on I'm the part of you

That you listen to riding in the radio on that long I'm a song I'm a song I was there the day you learned to die the first time that you got hired

I even helped you realize that she wasn't right for you you fall down I pick you up again I become a man when your best friend died I helped you cry and finally turn them loose

I'm the part of you that'll get you where you're going So you never go there alone I'm a melody glued to the memory That you can't shake When it comes on I'm the part of you But you listen to riding in the radio

On now long I'm a song Oh Oh Oh Oh I'm a song I'm the part of you

that you listen to riding in the radio on I alone I'm a word that'll get you where you're going so you never go there long I'm a man that he glued to the memory

that you can't shake when it comes on I'm the part of you but you listen to writing in the radio on a long on a song I'm a song Oh, I'm a song, oh, I'm a song.

I'm a song Wow. Wow. I mean... Yeah. I had no words. No words, no words. Do that song justice.

It's an incredibly beautiful song written, written beautifully. And the music that goes with it, too. And he's making all that noise with just one guitar and nylon strings. It is quite amazing. It is, like, very few people play nylon strings, first of all. Second of all, I know why he's playing. the nylon strings because it's the percussion, the bass, and the guitar at the same time. He's keeping time by snapping the guitar like that. He's using the nylon strings to give it that

deep, rich sound. He's using a guitar that is old and rickety because it probably has some, it's probably comforting to him, but then there's only that kind of guitar can make that kind of sound. And then he's putting a voice on top of it that you mentioned Eddie Vedder. It does have an Eddie Vedderish quality to it. He's singing through his nose and with a closed throat. But, you know, he grew up listening to the same music we listened to. Yeah, yeah, the 90s, you know, alternative stuff along with some country. I mean, it's kind of got like a little Willie Nelson in there, too. Bruce Springsteen is one that comes to mind. But then now he's covered smashing pumpkins. He's covered, I think he did an Allison Chain song. I think he did

another one. He's covering a lot of the songs that we grew up with that you can, tell, I think he does, I think if you asked him to, he could cover a pearl jam song pretty well, but he's not going to do that because he also knows that his voice resembles Eddie Vedder, and he doesn't want to come across as a parody. But mark my words, Stephen Wilson, Jr. We'll do a Pearl Jam cover at some time in the near future, and we're all going to be blown the fuck away. Because also, the way that he's using his voice is unlike Eddie Vedders. He's just got a tone to it that, that, it's just different. It's different. Anyway, Stephen Wilson, Junior's a revelation to me. I haven't liked music this much in a long time. And it just hits me in the

Google spot. Seems like the rest of the world's catching on now. The rest of the world's catching on. CMA's got him first. But, you know, it won't be long before he is everywhere. His tickets are hard to get. They are very expensive. He came to Athens. sold out the Georgia theater. And I thought, okay, that's close enough. He hasn't been, I don't think he's been to Atlanta as a, like, as a main act. yet because he says when he's playing the print shop, and this came out in 24, he says that's the first time I have played music in Atlanta. I've been here, but it's the first time I played music in Atlanta. So when I looked for the Georgia theater tickets, they were like $400 for standing room. The Georgia theater, there are no seats.

It's standing room. That's what you do. I mean, up in the balcony, I suppose. But so 400 bucks to go see Stephen Wilson Jr. Probably would have been worth every dime. Oh, yeah. You know that was a great show. Yeah, this guy, this is like a generational talent, in my opinion.

So last night on the CMAs, he does a cover that he did at the print shop. And it was Stand By Me. So now let me see, we'll play that one. While we're on Stephen Wilson Jr. kick, let's play that one. Let me see if I can cue that up here. Here you go. For those of you listening, guitar only. Him and a guitar.

Mm-hmm. He's a night The night is come And all the land is dark And the morning He's still got that guitar Yep It's a safety blanket

Yeah Yeah Just a single tea Just as a long Stand Stand And every scared That we look upon

Should ever tumbling For mountains They ever come Don't you stand Don't you stand By me Generational talent A generational talent

A generational talent For sure This guy is out of control The only thing that I worry about Was Stephen Wilson Jr. First of all I want to point out That he's using so much reverb on his voice If that stadium that he was in right then

Was empty, his voice would sound like that. He's putting so much reverb on it. It's a master stroke on how to use effects correctly. And his voice needs that to make it so like in your face. You feel like you're in a huge room listening to someone without a microphone. And this is someone at the top of their game. It does. The only thing that concerns me about Stephen Wilson, Jr. is that we are seeing him at the very tippy, tippy top of his game. And I wonder how long he can keep it up with that voice screaming like that. I hope he can do it. But we've seen other screamers in the past not keep up with that kind of vocal ideation. But, you know, we'll see. I hope. I love Stephen Wilson Jr. I've loved him

since the moment. I caught him and I turned Chrissy on to it. I was like, you got to listen to this guy. I started sending it to everybody. I was kind of like a little obsessed, actually. I was like, you got to listen to this guy. You got to listen to this guy. I sent him my brother. And everyone that I've sent it to is like, oh my god that's crazy and I'm like yeah I know right what this guy come from he's our age he was a chemical engineer for like a cereal company or something like a food company he was a golden glove boxer he grew up poor his dad raised him his mom was like in a series of abusive relationships real sad story but he managed up like pull himself up and out and he became a very well-paid like chemical engineer food engineer whatever for a food company and then he was writing songs on the

side for people in Nashville until somebody, one of the engineers in a studio said, you got to be the voice of these songs. And he's like, nah, man, look at me. I'm 43 years old. You think I'm going to be a fucking rock star? And he's like, yes, I do. You need to do these songs.

Why are you giving them to other people? And he took a chance and wrote an album. It did okay, mildly in Nashville. And then the second one, son of a dad, I think that's when people really started taking notice. Do yourself a favor. Get into Stephen Wilson, Jr. Those are like two of like 12.

He's got like, you know, 30 songs out there now. But 24 of them are just beautiful. And live at the print shop is probably the best live version of some of these songs that I've seen. So go watch that. Yeah, it's about, what, an hour long and just listen to it. Six, eight songs, something like that. He tells a lot about his life. Yeah, he does.

It's beautiful. Anyway, okay, listen, we just, we couldn't, I couldn't let it slide. I had to talk about Stephen Wilson Jr. again. I tried to get him on the show. We reached out to his people. We reached out to the guy from live at print shop. In typical commercial break fashion, no one responded to us. No, I think Stephen Wilson's people did get back to us.

And they said, listen, thanks for asking. But right now he's got a lot on his plate. And right now he's letting the music speak for him. And that's okay. I haven't seen him do too many interviews. I think he was on two late night shows. I think he went on Jimmy Kimmel. I think he was on Falun.

And then I also believe he did like one podcast, but of course it wasn't ours. But he also, he's not the shits and giggles kind of guy. Like maybe this is just not the place for him to come air his, you know, musical laundry. Though Stephen, always an open door, you know, if you want to come stream in front of six people, we're here for you. Yes. We're here for you. If you need that kind of promotion, let us know. Yeah.

If you need a technically disastrous show to show up to, I would love to get Stephen Wilson. hear and have him be the first artist that plays for us. We wanted to do that. We wanted to do it. Music series. Yeah, I said, I said, hey, reach out to Stephen Wilson's people. Tell him we have a studio in Atlanta. That's pretty nice.

And they have actual engineers that can help him set up his shit. And he can come and he can talk and he can play us a few songs. But I can also understand that when you're on the rise like this, there's probably a lot that's pulling at you and your management, they're doing the right thing when they're saying no to the commercial breaks of the world. They're like, you don't need them. You need to focus, focus, focus. You're playing the CMAs, Jimmy Fallon, and Jimmy Kimmel.

You don't need the commercial break. But I say all that to say. I got mad respect, mad respect for what's going on to Stephen Wilson, Jr. Hey, Lauren, Lauren's on our stream right now. Hi, at the commercial break on YouTube, YouTube.com at the commercial break or slash the commercial break. And if you want to know when we're going live in the future, follow us at the commercial break on Instagram. And we'll let you know just a couple minutes ahead of time. Tuesdays through Thursdays, sometime between noon and 3 p.m.

Chrissy and I are going to make an effort to be here streaming the show. And then, of course, you can always listen a couple days later on the RSS feed, as you always have been. So, but get involved in the conversation. Last episode we recorded, we had a lot of people commenting in the comment section. And also, we are working on, working on. I'm not going to promise when, but in the next couple of weeks, we'd like to be able to invite people on to, like, jump in with their cameras. Yeah, maybe we'll do a little. Like a test.

A test, maybe like a holiday type thing. Yeah, we can always go stream and then not run it on the RSS feed if it doesn't work out. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So maybe what we'll do is we'll do a special holiday, something or other. So just stay tuned. Follow us at the commercial break.

We'll, of course, let people know. And maybe in that case, the smaller numbers, the better while we work out all the technical issues. Yeah, I still haven't done it. I don't know how to do it. But a few people in the stream right now, thanks if you're streaming. And thanks always, as always in the podcast universe. Let's take a break and we're going to play a game. Yes.

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The people who represent this country are a bunch of fucking shitheads. Because I just read a story. You know that Dan Crenshaw, the guy who wears the eye patch? The representative wears the eye patch. He's no longer allowed in Mexico after an alcohol-related incident. He can't go to fucking Mexico. He's a congressman. Unbelievable.

What you have to do there to get kicked out. Wow. Yeah. I've been kicked out of a few places in Mexico, but not the actual. country, yeah. But I guess when you're a congressman, you do have a lot more eyeballs on you. All right, let's play a game. Chrissy's got a music related to Truss and a lie. I do in the vein of, first of all, everything 90s is new again. Absolutely.

And everybody loves the 90s and in the vein of just listening to Stephen and kind of the Eddie Vetterish, you know, a little voice like that. It reminds me that you are such a huge Pearl Jam fan. I am. You are. And we even went to the show. We did. We went to the show together. That was so much fun. It was a ton of fun. Actually, the other day, my iPhone popped up pictures.

Yeah, I think because we had been at the State Farm Arena, it was like concerts at State Farm Arena, which were mainly just pictures of us at Pearl Jam, but then there were a couple other pictures of other shows I've seen. So, okay, I'm up for this. Nice. So it's a two lies and a fact, Pearl Jam and 90s edition. All right. Let's see how good my brain is working today. Okay, okay. Let's see.

All right. Here we go. Yeah. Okay. that some, this is where I'm going to say three different statements. Okay. You're going to tell me which one is the fact. Okay.

Okay. The first statement is, this is the name of this little round is 10 out of 10. Okay. Okay. A, the band wanted every album title to be a number at first. Okay, B, 10 was named after NBA player Mookie Blaylock's jersey. Mm-hmm. C, fans originally thought the album cover was a swimsuit ad.

It would be B. You're correct. Yes. A mooky blaylock. Yeah, tell us more about that. So Pearl Jam was actually named the Mooky Blaylock band. That was their original name. But because Mookie Blaylock did not know who the fuck Pearl Jam would become, he did not care for them using his name.

And they got a copyright infringement. They got a cease and desist from the attorneys for Mookie Blaylock, who was a hawks player. And Atlanta Hawks player, reward number 10. Yes. And so. Jeff Ament, who's the bassist, was a huge NBA fan. And if you look any time behind, Pearl Jam, behind Jeff on his bass stack, the speakers behind him, you will see that he has these little bobbleheads, these NBA bobbleheads that he'll switch out. But Mookie is always there.

So there's always a mad respect for Mookie Blaylock. And if you are a true Pearl Jam, like, Officianato and Collector, you can find a poster with the Mookie Blaylock band named on it from like the first six months of them in existence. but not much else because, of course, they got the season to desist, so they don't put out merch like that anymore. Did they become friends with Mookiei? They had to. I think they did, yes. I think they did, yeah.

They had to. There you go. Well, good. There you go. Okay, here's round three. Even flow, even chaos. Oh. Okay, A, the band recorded Even Flow more than 50 times.

B, they intended it to be a reggae song. Even flow. Even flow, Eamon. Thoughts arrive like butterflies, a man. Go your mama. I love it. Okay, see where the lyrics were written while Eddie was floating in a sensory tank. Huh.

Hmm. Yeah. I don't believe that any of the songs on 10 were recorded 50 times. I think this, and I certainly don't think it's supposed to be a Rakey song. That's a pretty obvious lie. So it's got to be the sensory tank or a, I imagine that it's the sensory tank, though. I don't recall reading about this. I like the sensory tank.

But it's they recorded it. 50 times. 50 times. Wow. Listen, I do know. Like for the one album? Man. So a lot of the songs on 10 were written before Eddie even had.

was even part of the band. They were written on a demo tape. They sent the tape to Eddie, who was living down in San Diego, surfing mainly. This is why I think the sensory tank made sense. And he was a gas station attendant. And he was a gas station attendant.

That's what he was doing for a living. And he lived in a tiny room that he'd sublet with like six other surfer dudes. And he would write the lyrics on the walls. He would write some of these lyrics in notebooks and on the walls. And so when somebody told Mother Lovebone was essentially Pearl Jam, Jeff Ament, Mike McCready, Stone Gossard, they were all kind of traveling in the same circles. Mother Lovebone, the lead singer died, and they were left with nothing to do. They got together. They started writing songs. They were looking for a singer. Someone who knew someone, I think it was someone having to do with Red Hot Chili Peppers, sent the tape down to Eddie Vedder.

They knew he was a singer. And they said, hey, listen, you know, listen to this and let us. know, and he recorded over it. He dubbed it with the tape in the background, essentially. Played the tape, then dubbed his own voice, wrote a lot of those lyrics off the rip, or read it off his wall or out of his notebook, sent it back to them. And so my understanding is that that album was recorded in about a 10-day period, totally, with Brendan O'Brien, just like, boom. But, you know, you could do it 50 times in 10 days, I suppose. Or it just took 50 times to get it right. I do have heard Mike McCready say that the guitar solos and that, which are now world famous, you listen to Even Flow, you listen to the guitar solos, that they were, it took a long time to get those down.

But I didn't know 50 times. That's a lot. That's a lot. That is. All right. Okay. Well, you're doing well so far. Thank you.

Here we go. We're doing a little history lesson. I know. I enjoy this. I knew this would be a good one for you. Okay. Round four. Yes.

Jeremy spoke dot, dot, dot, then MTV panicked. Yes. Is the name of this. Okay. A, MTV banned the Jeremy video for showing Eddie eating raw fish. B, the video director later quit the music industry from the stress. For C, the original ending was even darker than the final cut. Hmm.

I think that this has got to be C, though I think there is some truth to the rumor of B. With the video director, Yes. From the stress. Yes, yes, because it was a big deal at the time. Yes, even Flo, I mean, Jeremy was one of the most popular videos MTV had ever seen. But MTV got so much heat for that particular video because, of course, it shows it's the story of a child who shoots himself in class. And the video in and of itself, the one that ran is pretty graphic.

It shows him blowing out his brains and then blood all over the children. but it doesn't show the actual like blowing out of the brains. But I think the ending may have been darker, the original version. Yeah, they're right. Yeah. The ending, the original ending was even darker. But the director got so much heat for that video. He went on to do movies, I believe, but he got so much heat for that that he considered

leaving the industry, leaving the music industry, like the video industry. Yeah. Because it was such a, it was a difficult time. And a little fun fact, that was the last video that Pearl Jam would do for MTV or anywhere else for a very long time for like 23 years. They were just done. They were done. They didn't think it was necessary to make videos for MTV.

It wasn't. They did just fine. They did okay. They did okay for themselves. Exactly. Okay. Here we go. Round five.

Okay. Vetter's Adventures. Oh. Okay. Here we go. Okay. I think I know where this is going. Okay.

Okay. A. Eddie Vedder once lost his wallet surfing before a show. Okay. B. He performed part of a concert while hanging upside down. C, he toured with a portable sauna for vocal warmups. C sounds a little too pretentious, though.

They keep throwing in the sauna. Yeah, they keep on throwing in saunas. I don't know. I don't know, but it doesn't sound like any better to me. I would say, well, he certainly has performed parts of concerts hanging upside down, so that sounds like it might be true. And it also sounds like it might be true that he lost a wallet before he surfed because he's a big surfer. So I'm just going to say, A, for Chis and Giggles. Okay, it was B. You're right.

Okay. All right. Yeah. And we do know about his climbing and hanging upside down. I saw it. I saw it live. I saw it live. Right. At the Fox?

I saw it at the Fox Theater and then I saw it again at Lala Palooza. But eventually they had they put a stop to it. Yeah. People threatened to poll gigs because the insurance companies were saying that they weren't going to insure him if he in fact got up off stage. If he got offstage, then it was. over. Like game over, he was, they were going to stop the show. And the bandmates themselves were pressuring Eddie to stop it because they were really concerned. As a matter of fact, he was so into it.

He was so into it. But, you know, Stone Gossard said, he's going to die in front of us. And it's and then it's going to be the most tragic thing that ever happened. Right. So I think he did that for the first two or three years. Of course, the even flow video is, or alive are the two videos where you think of where Eddie's just acting like a maniac running around. And, you know, that was his thing. That was his thing. Yeah. Okay, well, good job. Here we go. Well, this way, I think we've talked about this before, but. Okay, go. Round six was ticket master wars. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, that was a big deal. It's a big deal. Yeah. But go ahead. We'll skip that one. We'll skip that one. I mean, the Pearl Jam new ticket master was nefarious. They testified before Congress about high ticket fees. Yes. And for two years, for two tours, they did it themselves.

They did their own ticketing. And that turned into a major disaster for them. That was a real problem. They had a lot of issues because Ticketmaster just does what they do very well. But they knew that the $3 fee that Ticketmaster was charging was highway robbery, and they hated it. And they felt that it was rigged and that ticket brokers were getting in the middle. This is like the baby ticket. brokers, like, you know, individual humans that were, like, buying five or six tickets at a time.

Right. That would stand outside turtles. Yes, it would stand outside turtles or the Fox Theater or whatever. You know, it, they knew. And they went to Congress and they tried to get it stopped. But, of course, Congress and it's infinite wisdom, 29 years later, still doing the same shit. So now Congress is like, oh, yeah, Target Master socks. Oh, they do? They did back then, too. They still haven't done anything different. Not a goddamn thing. Now they just include it. It's an all-inclusive fee. But. In the U.K., in the United Kingdom, thank you, my UK, brethren, in the United Kingdom, they are signing into law this week, a law that says it is illegal to sell tickets higher than face value, essentially killing the aftermarket, or at least the public aftermarket for tickets. There's always going to be a black market for it. Yeah, you can call your buddy and he can say, hey, I'll charge you an extra 200 bucks to buy these tickets. But it's a first step. in combating what has become an out-of-control situation with these ticket fees. Yeah, it really is. It's nuts. Okay.

Here we go. Round seven, alternative 90s madness. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like an episode of the love connection. She showed her knee. She showed her knee. I see a nipple.

Okay. Here we go. A. The first Limp Biscuit album was produced by Eddie Vedder. Nope. B. Radio stations sometimes. labeled Pearl Jam as drug music.

C. Nirvana once opened for Pearl Jam at a country fair. Okay. This has got to be B because I don't believe that Pearl Jam ever opened up for Nirvana. And I certainly know that Eddie Vedder did not produce Limp Biscuit's first album. Thank God.

So that's got to be B. You're right. You're right. They sometimes labeled a drug music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So a little history lesson in how the 90s went down, why this music became so popular. Atlanta has a big, has a lot to do with that. That's true. 99x. Because there was a radio station in Seattle, a college radio station, I believe. And then there was a station in Los Angeles. But here on the East Coast, 99X was our alternative station.

And it was the first station to flip into what they called alternative format, alternative rock or alternative format. And they, a bunch of rogue employees at this radio station owned by Cumulus now, but by Dickie Broadcasting then, literally got together and overnight found music from Seattle and other places that were being played in like college stations and, you know, under the underground scene. God, they did that. It was crazy. If you listen to the story of it, there's like literally a documentary that was made about this. It's a shitty YouTube documentary. But all of the players involved, Leslie Front. and all these people were these program directors.

They got together. And I still, I still remember the time, when they flipped that music, when they flipped that station, I was listening when they flipped that station. It happened at like, I don't know, like 12 at night or something like that. They usually do it at midnight, yeah. And I still remember. And overnight, it became a sensation here in the city and throughout the country. And everybody soon followed. Within a year, the alternative stations were everywhere.

because it became very popular music. They were playing Nirvana when no one else was playing Nirvana and smashing pumpkins. If I'm not mistaken, I can't remember what the first song on 99X was played. You just said it the other day. Yes, it's not never mind.

I thought it was maybe a Pearl Jam. It wasn't a Pearl Jam. First song. Yeah, we just talked about that. A little bit about back. On 99X Atlanta. Did Video Killed the Radio Star. Really?

Okay, well, there you go. I thought that was the first one on MTV. That was the first one on MTV also. But it was video killed the radio star. But anyway, in that first couple of minutes, so Nirvana was played also. But not Nirvana's Nevermind, Nirvana's Bleach album, because I don't think Nevermind was out yet.

True. Because 99X came online. Oh, maybe it was. It was October 26, 19, 92. Anyway, okay. Anyway, that's a little history lesson. I love it. Atlanta, we were early in on the game. Yes, we were. Yeah. Now we just played shitty dance music and 80s pop music. I know. It's bad. There's no more radio stations left. 99X is still around, by the way. There is a station out of Minneapolis. It's an NPR station. It's called The Current. Jeff and I listen to it. It's good. It's independent and it's great. I don't know if it could convince me to turn off my satellite radio, but there's just no place. There's no kingmakers anymore. Maybe there shouldn't be, but there's no kingmakers anymore. 99x was a kingmaker.

If you got your music played on 99X. Yeah, I could have turned on to that station. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay, round eight. Yeah. Sound garden sound off. Ooh, dang, dun, dun, dun.

Dung. The rivalry. The rivalry was really Nirvana and Pearl Jam. That's true. Because Soundgarden and Pearl Jam were friendly from the Git, but. Okay. A. Chris Cornell and Eddie Vedder once recording an entire album of lullabies. B.

The Temple of the Dog album featured early Pearl Jam members. C, Sound Garden and Pearl Jam shared a rehearsal warehouse. Okay, well, of course, it's B because Pearl Temple of the Dog. I love that Temple of the Dog. It's an excellent album. God. It's an excellent album. It's still to this day.

Yeah, it's one of the first CDs that I ever bought after kind of alternative music started to take over. And it's an excellent album for beginning to end. And it is Eddie Vedder's debut with Pearl Jam members. Here's a fun fact. Before one lick of 10 was recorded, hunger strike was recorded. I'm going hungry. I'm going hungry. Yeah.

Yeah, that is Eddie Vedder's debut, essentially, on the scene. And he recorded that with Chris Cornell. I remember hearing that, and I was like, what is this? What is that? Yeah, as a matter of fact, I think the song came out before Pearl Jam's 10 came out. So people kind of knew that he was on the scene long before, but those videos, it's at that time period, like, I think those videos all started to come out, right, or within weeks of each other. Yeah.

Okay. All right. All right. You're doing well. I'm winning. Winning. Winning. Hattack winning.

Hattack winning. Okay, here we go. Round 9. Nineties fashion crimes. Oh. Of course it involves a little flannel. Of course. Okay.

A. Flannel shirts surged in price because of Pearl Jam and Nirvana. B. Adidas released an official Pearl Jam sneaker. C. had a contract with Levi's. Okay, Eddie Vedder never had a contract with Levi's. If you know anything, if you even know like 10% of history about Pearl Jam, then you know that there's no contract with Levi.

He wasn't a fashion model. He was the anti-fashioned model. I can imagine that flannel got hot to trot right after. You're correct, yes. Plano, God, it was everywhere. The dog Martins, the flannel. It was everywhere. I did not actually, fun fact about Brian.

I never got into the flannel. You didn't? No, I don't even think I owned a flannel. But the Doc Martin's. But the Doc Martins, yes. I was all about the Doc Martins for sure. But I never wore like flannel. I never, like, wrapped one around my ways.

It wasn't my thing. Okay. Yeah. I was a little bit more fashionable thing than that. A little bit. Not much, but a little bit. Tiddle it a little bit. Okay.

All right. Round 10. Are we good on time? Yeah. Yeah, we're good. Let's do this one and then we'll take a break. Okay. Round 10, MTV shenananics.

Oh, the shenanigans of MTV. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. A, MTV gave Pearl Jam best new artist, but they refused the trophy. Uh-huh. B. Eddie Vedder once showed up to the VMAs and shorts and hiking boots.

C. MTV once censored a speech where Eddie protested microwaves. Okay. That's not true. What out of that come up? I think Eddie knew. I think Eddie had a few protests in his time, but I don't think it had to do with microwaves. I know for a fact that he used to wear shorts and hiking.

boots a lot, especially during the early days. And I don't think they refused that artist award. I think they actually accepted the artist award. And I think it was the only award they ever accepted from MTV. So it's B. It is B. Yes. You're correct. Yes. Look at me. I got it. I'm so good at this. I know. I know. There's more to come. All right. We'll be back. Let me do something Brian has never done. Be brief. Follow us on Instagram at the commercial break. Text or call us. 212-4333.3 TCB. That's 212.4. 333-3822. Visit our website,

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We're playing a little two truths. One truth and a two lies on a truth. Whatever the fuck it's Two lies and a fact? Two lies in a fact, two craps in a fact. I don't know, whatever. I could have done fact or crap, but that is... We'll play that next time.

Yeah, those questions are too easy for you. I've got to make them harder for you. Next time we'll ask the audience to give us two facts in a crap. And that'll be a fun game to play. And then you and I'll have to decipher and we'll see if we can beat the audience. Oh, I love that. Okay, we're playing a 90s music version of this. It's been mainly focused on Pearl Jam right now.

So, okay, go. Let's do this. Okay, there's the next round. Okay. Peak 90s weirdness. Oh, all right. I think I can go. I think I can go here. I think I got my 90s pop trivia pretty good.

You do. Pretty good. Okay. A is a Connecticut radio station once played alive on repeat for 24 hours. B. Eddie Vedder once lent his boat to Chris Cornell. Dot, dot, dot, dot, and it sank. C.

90s parents believed Pearl Jam albums contain subliminal satanic messages. Okay. I'm sure there's some truth to see, but I do believe. That's, no, maybe that's not Pearl Jam. I feel like A has some truth to it, but I think it's probably C. Oh, okay. Now, you're right, A, go with your instinct. Okay, A, yes.

A, the Connecticut radio station once played a live on repeat for 24 hours. Yes, it's, I know that there's some parents who got up in arms about Pearl Jam. I remember reading about it. But A, it was labeled drug music. Yes, labeled drug music. That's right. Drugies. Those drugies.

Yeah, by the way, Pearl Jam is not. drunk music. Pink Floyd is drug music, even though they don't want it to be. I will say that there is a story that I remember hearing about a DJ who put it on repeat for 24 hours. And after 12 hours, the station manager came to the Connecticut radio station because it's like one of those tiny stations, like independent stations, and was like pounding on the door. And I think if I remember correctly, they had to like call the police to get the DJ out of the studio. Wow, he was standing his ground. Yeah, he was standing on principal. He was standing on principal. He standing on business. That guy was.

I love it. Yeah, it's good. No one remembers the DJ's name, but hey, you know, whatever. I know there should be a little documentary about that. The day. The 24 hours of alive. He was probably doing some Columbia marching out and stay up for that. It was drug music. Yeah, it was drug music.

I mean, back then you'd have to press like repeat on the CD player or something. Yeah, every time. Okay, next round. Okay. Grunge lore. Oh, here we go. A. Early Pearl Jam rehearsals happened in a basement he did only by amps. B.

Eddie once slept in his car for two weeks during the first tour. Okay. Or C. Jeff Amat used to sew his own wallet chains. Jeff Amant used to sew his own wallet chains sounds like, sounds false, but could be true. I do feel like they had a rehearsal space that was cold. That sounds familiar to me. So I'm going to go with that one. You're correct.

Yeah. I think that... Although it seems like any of them could be true. Any of them could be true. But you know, you don't sleep in your car when you're on tour. You're in a van or you're on a bus or something. I mean, you could sleep in the van, but you don't sleep in your own car. It's not like you're following the guys around.

I'll catch up with you. Hey, it's me, Eddie Vedder, in my state. I mean, it just doesn't make much sense. Yeah. And you have to remember about Pearl Jam in general is that this is a pretty lickety split. When we say a lot of times on this show, we talk to people, overnight sensations never happen overnight. This is one of the rare exceptions to that. Pearl Jam literally put out an album and within six months, they were international superstar.

Eddie Vedder was on the cover of Time magazine hanging from the rafter. Yes, he was. So, and it was that they had a big argument at Time magazine, Kurt or Eddie, and they put Eddie on and that kind of started a little beef. So, I mean, neither of them wanted to be on the cover in Time magazine. But I guess that's only, people only say that when they're not the one chosen to be on Time magazine. You know what I'm saying? So. You know, you can always just get one printed.

Yeah. That's what Trump does. Yeah. Okay. The next round. Lyrics and legends. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Eddie Vedder wrote black in 15 minutes. B, daughter was originally called brother. C. Yellow Ledbetter has official printed lyrics. Yellow Ledbetter is not official. I know, and that's one of our favorites.

Yeah. I don't think, hey, you know, don't call me, brother. I don't think that's it. So I think it's got to be A. You're right. You're right. Yeah. Brother is a different song.

Brother is a different song. They do have a song called Brother. And Led Better Famously has no official lyrics. Yeah, but I do also know the song about Daughter, and that was also written in about 15 minutes. It was written very quickly, and they did it in a shed behind the studio. Really? Yeah. And this is their second album, which, by the way, is the fastest selling album of all time is Pearl Jam's verses, which is the following to 10. Yeah, these guys did it. I mean, they're the great American rock band, for sure. They really are. Okay. This is another round. TV time warp.

Okay. Pearl Jam A, Pearl Jam once guest starred in an episode of Baywatch. B, Eddie Vedder turned down a cameo on Friends or C, the band appeared in a Simpsons couch gag. I think this is. Baywatch, right? Yeah, it's Baywatch. Yes. Eddie Vedder was on Baywatch.

Slowly down. With flannel shirts. Yeah, chain wallets and flannel shirts are flying. It's a lot. definitely not very much. We can be assured of that one. Yes. But I do think they were on The Simpsons, if I'm not mistaken. I think that's it. But, you know, Eddie could have very well been asked to be, is he

have any connection to the friends? I don't know. Yeah, well, that was it. That was it? He turned down the cameo. But it does seem like Pearl Jam was somehow in the Simpsons. Pearl Jam has got to been in on the Simpsons. And all the Simpsons episodes, Pearl Jam has to have been touched on. They did everything. I mean, everything. They're on once a week for the last 86 years. So, okay, all right. I didn't know that Eddie Vedder was asked to be on friends. Turned it down. Turned it down. What? Hey, hey, listen, standing on business. Standing on business. I'm not going to be on friends. The biggest show in the world. I'm the biggest singer in the world. Yeah. Okay. But Eddie roundly denounced fame in general.

But, I mean, I think he said in later years, you know, I just didn't know how to handle it. Which is fair enough, I mean, to go from zero to a hundred, yeah, overnight. And everybody's looking at you and everybody's reading into your lyrics and it all has this meaning. And, you know, it's really the soundtrack. They are the soundtrack of a generation, part of the soundtrack of a generation. And his songs specifically, the songs that he wrote on 10 and verses and all these albums, the lyrics are, they're just a little bit deeper than some of the other stuff that was coming out. And that includes Nirvana or Soundgarden.

That's not to knock either of those bands. They also had great songwriting and great lyrics. But there's something about the way that Eddie Vedder sings some of those songs, like Black or Daughter or, you know, elderly woman behind a counter in a small town, which is a crazy fucking name. But, you know, you get what I'm saying, is that Eddie kind of, he had like an endearing quality to his voice and his lyrics. And it didn't help, it didn't hurt.

The guy was pretty fucking handsome. So, I mean, you know, he's certainly the best looking of the bunch. That's for sure. That's true. Kurt was pretty Hampton. Well, Chris Cornell was a good-looking guy, too. Yeah, they all were. They were all models.

I know. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Next round. CD store chaos. Okay. Okay.

Okay. A. Stores put anti-theft spider alarm cables on Pearl Jam CDs. Okay. B. versus sold nearly a million copies in a week without radio play. Okay. See, some stores refuse to sell vitology because they thought the

have her looked haunted. Ooh, I could see maybe any of these being true, but I know that there was radio play for verses, though I think the number is right. They sold a million copies in a week, but daughter was a single, daughter was the first single from that album, so it had radio play. I remember hearing it the first time that they played it on 99X. But maybe it wasn't an official, like, release. I don't know, like, an official single.

I don't know. My gut tells me that could be true. I could see how people would want to put anti-theft on CDs. And what's a spider alarm? I have no idea. It's one of those, like, cables that, like, goes around the CD. But I don't see them putting out on every single CD of Pearl Jams. Like, that seems like a big effort for one band.

All right. So, let's throw that one in the trash. So I think, what was the third one? Some stores refuse to sell Vitalogy because they, thought the cover looked haunted. No store refused to sell Vitology. That's ridiculous. I mean, it's not, doesn't look haunted. It's the picture of the book, Vitology. That's what it is. So that throw that one in the trash. It's got

B. It was B. Okay, there you go. Sold a million copies. A million copies in a week without radio play. It did have radio play, but what they're saying, I think, is without an official single being released. So people were just, DJs were just picking songs out of there. All right. Okay. We got a couple more here. Okay, this next round. Retro Tech lies. Okay.

Okay. A, laser disc was marketed as the vinyl of video. B, Pearl Jam released a song only on Laserdisc as a joke, or C, the Nintendo 64 was originally called the Ultra 64. Oh. So this is kind of more 90s. Yeah, this is more 90s. Okay. Laser disc, I don't see why anybody would call it the vinyl.

I mean, that just sounds stupid. It's like we're going backwards to go forward. That sounds stupid. I think it was Ultra 64. You're correct? Yeah. Ding, ding, ding. It sounded familiar for some reason.

The Ultra 64. Yeah. That was the OG name. Okay, I like it. Okay, here we go next round. Nostalgia Nuggets. Okay. A, magic eye posters, remember those.

I do remember them. I had one. Just stare at them and you'll see it. You'll see yourself in the magic eye. Magic Eye posters were banned in some schools for inducing hypnosis. Okay. B. Surge soda was pulled because kids kept mixing it with espresso. Which sounds like you might have done.

Probably. It's what I do now. It's currently what I do. See, Beanie Babies were insured by some people for $10,000. I could see any of those being true, but I think that it's got to be the, magic eye poster was banned by some schools. Yeah. Oh, it's C? It's C. Yeah. Beanie babies were insured for $5,000. Yeah, of course it's the crazy. There's some idiot out there where this little boo-boos are insured right now. You know that they are. You know that they are. Of course. Where's my Dick Tracy collection. I need to insure it from Lloyds of London. Well, and then we're going to put it in the Freeport. Yeah, we're going to put it in our own free port. The lower middle class free port. The one where you put all your junk. Also known as a self-storage. Yeah. It's all storage unit. Okay, next round. Cassette Life.

Okay. Okay. A, the first printing of 10 on cassette had a misprinted song name. Okay. B, rewinding Pearl Jam cassettes with a pencil was 20% faster. Okay. All right. That's so stupid.

See, drugstores kept grunge tapes locked up because teens were stealing them. Oh, I could see. I could see either A or C being true. I don't think I've ever heard. Like, you know, I have a bunch of posters. I've bought some of them on collectible websites. I haven't heard of like a tape misprint being sold, but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'm going to go with A.

Yeah, A, it was the printing. Oh, okay. All right, there you go. See? I could see it being true. The first printing. I'm sure how many, God, how many printings do you think that went through? Ten?

Yeah. Oh, you mean the album 10. Oh, God. It's got to be on its 89th printing. It had to have gone through so many prints. I mean, pink flow. Lloyd's Dark Side of the Moon and the wall have been reprinted every year since they came out and they consistently show up in the top 10 album sales. It's crazy. Okay, I got one more left here. Okay, 90s pop culture chaos.

Aye, aye, aye, aye, y' aye. Make it sound like the 90s. I mean, the 90s was kind of weird. It's kind of wild. You know, I just watched yesterday. I just watched Howard Stern interviewing Dave Grohl from back in 2011. and talking about when Kurt died and what happened after all of that. Dave's perspective on what happened all over that. It's a fascinating look at a really interesting time for everybody. And it brought me back to the day, the moment that I heard that on 99X, the moment that I heard that. And then all of the kind of chaos that came after that and who did it and who done it and what's going to happen. Oh, God, I know. Yeah.

Okay, go ahead. All right. A, you could buy a Pearl Jam branded Pager in 1996. B. B, 90s teens believed listening to grunge and headphones caused ear mold. Okay. C. Columbia House lost millions because people ordered CDs under fake names.

Okay, that's C. Of course. Yeah. Columbia House used to do this thing. 100 CDs for a penny. And what it really was, you were entering a club where your card would get charged 1999 a month forever and ever for like three years. So you act and then you'd continue to get these CDs that they would pick at forever and ever. You never seem to get your hundred CDs.

I did that one time. I did it too. Everybody did. Yeah, my dad let me do it. And I remember he was pissing and known him for years. And then they, you know, it'd be like a- Because they kept sending bills. Yeah, they kept sending bills to charge the card or whatever.

and my dad would have to pay it so he didn't want to ruin his credit. And then they'd send you like, Huey Lewis and the News's 12th album as when you're in the CD of the Month Club. And no one cared about Huey Lewis in the News's 12th album. Do you know what I'm saying? It was whatever album they had extra of they would send you. And it ended up being a real fucking ripoff for everybody involved. But, you know, hey, you got the first 10 CDs you wanted.

Then you got 100 CDs no one wanted. All right. All right. That was funny. You did a great job. Yeah, no, thank you. That was a good one. I like that. I like it too. Good job, Chrissy. Nice work. Good questions. Prompted good conversation. Okay. All right. I'll rely on you. You're the game girl. Okay. You're the game girl. You go for it. If you need me to help you. You know, just call me. I mean, I could tell you that after the show's over, but, you know, hey, call me. Call me. You know my number. Dial it up. We don't talk to each other unless we're here. No. Right. Not a hundred times a week. Yeah, 100 times of the day.

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