The Commercial Break - Furverts & Fetlife & Otherkins!

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

Krissy is out of the studio, so Bryan & friend of the pod, Tina, get into all things drugs, fetishes, and feeling like a nonhuman being. Bryan & Tina have been friends for 30 years There’s no coming back after triplets! Tina left her dog with her nail tech! An adult man with guinea pigs…red flag Doing drugs and cutting the grass in a bath towel Restaurant industry drama Old dating drama Ask TCB! Shooting your shot What not to say! Bryan got ghosted Fetlife Otherkin No swimming for Tina Finding your otherkin spirit! We’re confused Do you get to have multiple identities? Bryan & Tina try to figure this out   LINKS: Send us show ideas, comments, questions or concerns by texting us at: 1.855.TCB.8383 Call 626.ASK.TCB3 and leave us a voicemail Speak to TCB LIVE by calling 775.TCB.LIVE (1.775.822.5483) Tuesday-Thursday 12pm-5pm EST Watch TCB on YouTube Creator: Bryan Green Co-Host: Bryan Green Co-Host: Krissy Hoadley Written By: Bryan Green Exec Producers: Bryan Green & Krissy Hoadley Content Production & Research: Tina Khano YouTube Producer & Editor: Morgan Please Producer & Audio Editor: Christina A. Executive Director: Astrid B. Associate Producer: Gustavo Episodic Contribution: Marianne, Diane, Natalie, Will The Champ, Will D**  

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Yeah Hearts now. You do? I do. You've been a fan of the show since the very beginning. You're the sister I never had. You've been a friend of mine for 30 years? I think this summer was 30 years. Isn't that crazy? 30 years. We're old. I'm a fucking old man. I feel like I'm gonna be wearing diapers pretty soon.

But that's good because I have all these extras from all these children that I have running around. That's right. So I waited so late. Don't worry about it. That's right. I just need an extra size. Like size 5 is where they end. I feel like I need a size 12.

But if they could make a diaper in a size 12, which I'm sure they do for some people, then I'll be wearing them sooner rather than later. So you may notice that Tina is not Chrissy and Chrissy is not Tina by nature, just by default. Thank goodness. Organically. Yes.

I agree with you. Chrissy has to take some additional time off because of a pressing family health issue. You know, Papa Joe just passed away six weeks ago and And here it comes again. I guess the old adage is when it rains it pours and Chrissy is walking through fire right now. So she will be checking in with the show periodically. Don't worry, she'll be back when she's gonna be back. We don't know, but we're here to support her.

And we love her. Yeah, we send all the love in the world and goddamn, does she need it? So and her family too. So we're sending best wishes, best to you out there, the HODELYS. And that's that. I can't say too much more. I don't feel that's that. I can't say too much more.

I don't feel like it's appropriate right now to say too much more. So, like Chrissy say, when she comes back, if she comes back, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. No, I'm kidding. She'll be back, of course she will. So, how was your Thanksgiving? It was lovely.

It was quiet. I made a lasagna. You made a lasagna for yourself? Well, for myself and my boyfriend, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And why not Turkey? It was just the two of us. Yeah. It was recovering from surgery. Oh really? Yeah. So you're like playing nurse? I did for a whole week. Yep. When you play nurse, do you get in any kind of outfits? Does he ask you to? I wore an apron once. Just an apron? Just an apron. Fantastic. I love it. Just like I want to be a fly on Christie's wall,

I want to be a fly on your wall too. I don't know what's going on over there. Because I know you're a freak. You can't, you're a freak. Admittedly. You've been a freak since I met you. Yes. Where do we met at Bertucci's Break of in P3?

No, my high school boyfriend lived across the street. Oh, that's right. That's right. That guy. That guy. That guy. You know, you can't put that guy. I mean, we don't want to say his name. I don't, that guy. That guy. That guy. Yeah. You know, you know, you kind of put that guy, we don't want to say his name.

I don't want to get into a particular. He's got five kids now. He's got to set a triplets. He's got almost as many children as I do. He's got to set a triplets. Yeah, and then he decided to have another one after that. They decided they made it on purpose of rational decisions to have another one.

I don't know, rational is the right word. No, you got that right. I can't, I can't imagine. After triplets, don't you just stop? Wouldn't you? Absolutely. There's no reason to go on. No, let's have five.

Why not? You know, I've told this story before, but I was with my family on the Thanksgiving over the Thanksgiving, and we were telling, like, birthing stories. And my aunt was there and all this other stuff. So my dad shares the story. My mom was pregnant before they did ultrasounds. Right? It just wasn't something that was very common.

It was done for emergency purposes in big hospitals. The machines were very expensive. The technology wasn't really evolved. And what they did, if there was a problem, oftentimes was taken X-ray, a fucking X-ray of a pregnant belly. Awful. Awful, disgusting. That's just like- It's a reason they don't do that anymore. Yeah, that's X-ray of a pregnant belly. Awful. Awful, disgusting.

That's just like, It's a reason they don't do that anymore. Yeah, that's the reason they don't do that. It's just like shooting the kid up directly with morphine. I would. Yeah, directly with morphine. Why would you, at all, think of doing an X-ray? Yeah, they put those big heavy vests on you,

even if they think you might could be pregnant. That's right. Yeah, just to get your teeth X-rays. Yeah, when I get my teeth X-ray, I have this 50 pound thing all over my chest. And I hate getting those teeth x-rays when they stick those things way back in your mouth. That's awful. It's disgusting.

But my dad explained, and I've heard this story so many times, but it's just too funny. They go, my mom, water breaks, it's time to go. My dad gets in the car. He drives her to the hospital. Nurse comes in. Yes, you're in the labor. Obviously the babies are coming. They're coming, the baby is coming sooner rather than later. Another nurse, two hours later, comes in to check on my mom and she says, I gotta call a doctor. I'm gonna call a doctor in here real quick. I'm a little confused by the heart that I'm the heartbeat that I'm hearing, right?

So I need to call a doctor. I think everything's okay, but I'm hearing a lot of heart beating, right? So she thinks that the heartbeat has sped up. Well, the doctor comes in, he listens to my mom's belly, then he looks at my dad and he goes, well, there's two of them. And my dad basically passes out in the chair. He's like, what the fuck? There's two of them. There's twins because that is how you found out in 1939 when I was born. Surprise! Hey! It's Kevin and Brian. My dad went to K-Mart while my mom was in Laker to buy an extra cram. Everything. An extra cram. An extra set of bottles. I mean, I just can't even imagine. I told Astrid when she first got pregnant with the first of 12 bottles. I mean, I just can't even imagine. I told Astrid when she first got pregnant

with the first of 12 children. I said, hey, listen, if we have twins, that's it. We're stopping. Game over. There's no reason to go on. You should, don't press your luck, basic. Right. It's a rolling of the dice.

Yeah, and then I was talking to my, this friend of mine, we were talking about having multiples of children. And he said he told his wife we got one with 10 fingers and 10 toes. Why press your luck, right? You already have a health. It really is again, especially in 2023 in the United States of America, but I just stop and if you have triplets, there is no reason to go on. They had one. They had triplets and they were like, what's one more? What's one more? What?

I get extra use out of these clothings and high chairs. You know, there's the other side of this, which is once you have three, they already outnumber you. There's no, they'll raise each other. Don't even worry about it. Chaos is gonna, Chaos will ensue no matter what you do. So mine is well throw another one. Yeah, they'll name it, they'll feed it, they'll change it.

They're gonna wake it up anyway, it's fine. Just let them do it. They're gonna wait That's like my fucking dog. I can't take this dog anymore. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do There's nothing to do. There's nothing to do. I mean, you know, you can't euthanize a perfectly healthy dog Vercocorts. Yeah, there is a there is a procedure upon which you can do that But I think it's generally a frowned upon. I think it might be cruel, I don't know. It might be, but there's got to be circumstances where it's warranted. Sure.

And if there's circumstances where it's warranted, I have to be one of them. Yeah, I have to be in that case. Hex book. Hex book, classic case of over anxiety dog who had nothing works. Did I ever tell you about my dog with anxiety? No. Okay, I had this little shitsoo, B-john mix because it was hyperallergenic

and supposed to be smart, all this stuff. This dog had broke out in Hives. What? Just because I loved it and it's great. Barced incessantly, I kept taking it to the doctor. He's like, your dog has ADD and anxiety. And I was like, send it back. Send it back. Did you give it, send it back. Send it back.

Did you give it back? I ended up giving it away. Did you really? I did to my nail tagging. I was going on vacation for my 30th birthday to Cancun and I needed someone to watch the dog. His kid was home for this. His kid was home for the summer.

Nailed it. And I just never went back to pick him up. Oh my God. You never went back to pick it up. Did you guys have a conversation? Did you? No? Tita. Well, how old are you when this happened? 30. Oh my god, you never went back to pick it up. Did you guys have a conversation? Did you? No? Tina, well how old are you in this half?

30. Oh my god. You're a 30 year old and you basically abandoned your ghost in your dog? I gave him the crate, I gave him the clothing, all the little goodies I had bought for the dog. I couldn't deal with it anymore. Oh my god.

The thing had more health problems and mental health problems than my bipolar ex-husband. How the fuck? How the fuck? I had three kids. Oh mental health problems than my bipolar exospe. How the f- How the f- I had three kids. Oh yeah, well, there you go. And a crazy exospe. Well listen, I understand.

And I was in school full time. Did you ever go back to the nail place? Hell no. No, no. How do you walk back in there? You don't. Walk back in there. That dog was a nightmare.

Did they call you? No. No one called you. No. No one called to say, hey, do you want your dog back? No, no one got a free hypoallergenic dog. Oh my God, it's probably in some stew somewhere or something.

Probably. Yeah. I'm watching this 90 day fiance. Yeah. And one of the guys, he has pet guinea pigs that he is allergic to. Amazing. So he has this, and he met this girl in Mexico

or Ecuador wherever he met her. Oh, Ecuador, I think it's what it was. He met this girl in Ecuador. And then he, when she comes to live with him for the 90 days, the first thing he does is ask her to want to give the kitty pigs a bat because he breaks out of the house. I'm running. I'm running. Well, first of all, an adult man who has guinea pigs.

He's a problem. I'm running. My cousin's husband had guinea pigs when they met. Well, they're cute as they can be, but did you know that in South America, they are food. They're food. And so the girl says in Spanish on one of these things. Oh, Brito.

Yeah. Ha, ha, ha, ha. He says, she's gonna say, listen, I'm glad he has guinea pigs that way, if we've ever run into money trouble and don't have any food, we've got dinner. We won't be on day. And the guy looks mortified.

But dude, you have guinea pigs and you're allergic to them. Why do you have to have your allergic to them? Yes. And he learned how to make the guinea pig noises. So we like to talk to him. Yeah, please. It's all over the place. But I'm still trying to.

Come back to Ecuador. I know. You have room to talk. I'm still trying to figure out how you left your dog. So I had never had a follow-up conversation. You know, I got it. I figured he probably would have called if it wasn't working.

I never heard from him so they either put it in a crock pot or they love the dog. Either way, win, win for me. It is a win, win for you. And if I had three children, I told them. And I kept the Xanax that they prescribed the dog. Oh my God. I've got the, I've I kept the Xanax that they prescribed the dog. Oh my God. I've got the liquid Xanax that they give the dog.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work the same as humans, but trust me, I've thought if you'd actually not testing it out. Nothing wrong with experimenting. I agree. They give the same. That's how we got to know each other. Experimenting, a lot of experimenting.

My den of inequities basement, where everything was going on The place was fucking crazy. Oh, we had a great time That was the other thing that is so my little brother Danny my the middle child in the in the football team known as the green family He was sharing a story with the Table about how he took LSD one time, and I took LSD one time, and we were like communicating with each other

in another language, like we were having a breakthrough moment, a spiritual experience. And my dad is just sitting there with his head in his hands. Oh, we're not. And I'm like, Danny, don't like give dad a break. And Danny's like,

now he's gotta get these stories eventually. I know, that's what, I waited too late to tell my folks, God rest their souls. Yeah, well, it's probably better that they didn't know. My dad had some time to process. We're talking about 30 years ago, 25 years ago. Everybody's okay now, so it's fine.

Everyone turns out just fine. Yeah, look, I'm on the commercial break, making $30 an episode. Everything worked out great. My dad is like, he's just shaking his head. And Dan, he says, listen, dad, we spared you. Like, we waited 10 years to let these stories start leaking out. That's right. And my dad said the following and I knew it.

He said, ignorance is bliss. And I knew it. I knew that he knew what was going on down in that basement. He had to. He had to have, but all the cards that were stacked against him for children. A wife who was sick. Yeah. He just had to button it up, get. Oh, wife who was sick. Yeah.

You just had to button it up, get through it because it was better that everybody was there anyway. I agree. Yeah. Like, at least we were there. We weren't driving around town. True. Most of the time we weren't driving around town.

But we were safe from the police. Most of the time we were safe from the police. Yeah. Unless we invited them over to the house by catching the local robbing game. Yeah. Great mushroom excavation. house by catching the local robbing game. Yeah. That's a great mushroom escapade. Danny reminded me of the one time that we had this party in my basement one time and I don't know if you were there.

I imagine you probably were, but my dad went on a sound for a long weekend and no one was there to babysit us, but we're like 16 years old. So he says, hey, hold the fort down for just one weekend. Can you possibly do that? Of course we can. And we invited everybody we knew over to the house for a party. So there was a party, four story house, not three story house. And on every story, there was a different scene going on.

Like down in the basement, it was a lot of weed smoking. In the middle of the house, I think there was some ecstasy going on. And then at the top of the house, there was everybody was high on mushrooms or all of us deep. And as the morning broke, I mean, it was just chaos the whole night, right? Chaos everyone is so fucked up. It's just chaos You're moving from room to room having conversations probably and then you know some alien language But then the one thing that my dad asked me to do before he left is cut the grass make sure you cut the grass So as dawn broke I put the speakers of my stereo

out the windows of the front of the house. And I played Beethoven's ninth symphony while I cut the grass in nothing but a bath towel wrapped around me. But the grass got cut. The grass got, well, it somewhat got cut until my neighbor came outside and he walked over and he was like, I think it's okay. Yeah, he's, that's exactly what he was a preacher in like this small methodist church and he came up, he's always so nice. He came over and he says, listen, Brian, I, I, I'm great that you're cutting grass, but

it's 6.35 in the morning. You've got Beethoven playing out the window. You're not exactly fully dressed for the occasion. Why don't we just go back inside, we'll cut the music off for now, and I'll help you cut the grass later. He knew what was going on. This is a preacher, pastor at a Methodist church. He knew what was going on, and he sent me back inside with such love and care for my condition

that I, it actually got through. I was like, oh, okay, yeah, all right, cool. You're gonna help me later. And you know what? I slept the next 48 hours, but the grass was cut when I woke up Thank you preacher good old oil. Doyle took care of me. Thank you. Doyle Appreciate it How to get pastors to do your chores Step one step one show up in a town lots of LSD That's step two. Svegan alien light language.

Step three, uh, Beethoven's night. Any six a.m. Six a.m. six thirty five a.m. I just never forget. I'll never forget him talking to me. But Danny said the entire house. Everybody who was at the house was just staring out the window. They were like, what is he doing?

How could you not? I thought, yeah, I don't know what that was thinking. Actually, it's normal. And you spent more than a few weekends, more than a few week days, probably, down at that house. Oh yeah, I think you were over there. I skipped a lot of school in that house, a lot.

Remember Leslie's need in her Chevy Nova? I do remember Leslie and her Chevy Nova. We won't get into all those gory details. No, no, no. Someone may not choose to be on the podcast. She was a lovely girl and I love that Chevy Nova. Absolutely. Yeah, I like that girl with that Chevy Nova.

Yeah, Leslie was a sweet girl. We don't need to go to school today. Yeah. No, the Greens are home. I bet they are. And you know what? She was like the most, I don't wanna see she was religious. I don't think I, I don't wanna put that on her,

but she was a very, what would seem like a good girl? She wasn't as squiggly as we were. Yeah, she wasn't as squiggly as we were. And she was cutting class. She, I don't even think she had anything to do with what was going on in the basement. I think she just like to skip class. Yes.

And go down there. And we met because your boyfriend lived across the street. And then you, I guess he knew my little brother Danny and then you would come in. He just moved here. Our freshman year. Yeah, he had just, he was, it was a new kid. And he had weed. Yeah. And I was like, where'd you get this? Because he showed up and he was straight edge. Do you remember those? Oh, yeah, I do. I'm like, give'd you get this? Because he showed up and he was straight edge. Do you remember those? Oh yeah, I do. And I was like, give me 10 days. I think it took 40.

And then he was like, oddly enough, my neighbor. And that's how it all happened. And then there was a period of time where we worked at Bertucci's brick oven pizza. Yeah, that was a couple years later when that restaurant opened. Well, I think I was 15 when I started. What a hot mess. And what a just a bad idea of a restaurant.

But that was one of the funnest jobs. It really was. Yeah. And when they opened up Roswell, I mean, yeah. Anyway, we had a great time. It was one of those jobs. And all the managers were just kind of like. Fantastic.

They were fantastic, but they were also kind of buckets of trouble themselves. 100%. And I mean, I remember one of the managers would take me to concerts. He was married and his wife wouldn't go with him anywhere. When do anything I mean, I remember one of the managers would take me to concerts. He was married and his wife wouldn't go with him anywhere. Wouldn't do anything with him, right? She was not, I don't think she liked him at all.

He would take me to concerts of like old rock, like Santa, I went to a Santa Ana concert with him. And he would just ply me with alcohol and weed to come to the show with him. But that's with the restaurant industry. That's all it was anyways. And that's why my, my daughters and never, never if I can my sons will never work in the restaurant industry. I wouldn't let mine. I said, when you move out, you can, but while you're under my roof, no restaurant industry of any kind of any kind, any kind because from the McDonald's to the Bertucci's to the list,

you know, the Italian territory where we're giving away free bottles of Kiantate Classico vinegar. Zulu, ba da look, Kiantate Classico. It's shit wine, Tony. Why are we doing this? What are we giving them? We're giving them liquid vinegar. It's disgusting. No one wants to cook with it. Yeah, cook with it.

Well, they did cook with it. That was the crazy part. They bought boxes upon boxes. And every table had to have a bottle of Kiantate Classico on it. It was like an $18 bottle of wine at the restaurant. probably cost two. Yeah, two ninety nine to get in the door. It just had in it. It was all in the writing on the front was all in the telling except for the alcohol content. So I think he thought people thought they were in Italy by giving away a bottle of candy. It's legit. It's legit. It's legit. It's sense fragile. It must be French.

It must be legit. It's sense fragile. Must be French. Yeah. But those restaurants, they are nothing but fucking truffle. They're cesspools of truffle. In cesspools, drug dens. Drug dens with high sexual energy. Everybody's sleeping with everyone.

Everybody's sleeping with everyone. It's awful, but so much fucking fun when you're in the middle of it. I just don't want my kids to go through it because I'm not sure they'll be able to handle it like I did because you know, look of my kids was asking me if he could be a McDonald's chef when he grew up. That's cute.

And I was like, you sure, no problem. And then, Astrid goes, your dad was a McDonald's chef. Thanks, honey. I was a McDonald's chef for like five days until they realized I couldn't actually get on the table. She get marriage points for that one. Yeah, right. She's the only one stuff for like five days until they realize I couldn't hack it off the marital. She get marriage points for that one. Yeah, right.

She's the only one who gets marriage points. I just get them taken away. You get the demerits, yeah. I get the demerits, the demerits. As a Catholic schoolboy, I know all about demerits. When you go to one of these private schools, that's like they do the demerits system. I know. And it's kind of fucked up if you think about it. like they do the demerit system. I know.

And it's kind of fucked up if you think about it, like you get three demerits then you get a, you know, in schools. It's all take away, there's no pluses. Yeah, there's no pluses. You don't get. No rewards, just damage. They don't give you, I don't know what you call it,

like a gold star or showing up, because I did show up a lot, but I still got kicked out. I still got kicked. most of the time, until I took a one month spring vacation, which the... Rum springer. Rum springer, that's right.

That's not coming back to this line. I was rum springing and someone's guest cottage at a very fancy neighborhood here in Atlanta. Because, I don't know, because. Just because. Just because I felt like doing it. We knew everything, and it was easy to make our own decisions at that point because we already knew everything but I told My family members that I was in

Perfect, I think they I think they knew that I wasn't in Cobbless on GPS. Could you imagine if our parents had these GPS locations? No, no, no, no, no, no, I had a pager. Our teenage years would have been far less fun. Yeah, far less fun. They could page me if they wanted some, you know, Jesus Christ, Father acid, a dog back of a reggaed up. Three Mitsubishi's, he's saying, hey, hey, chocolate chips, chocolate chips. Remember the chocolate chips? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, how did we survive it? I don't know. Well,

because no one is putting fentanyl in our fucking drugs. That's how when we went and got cocaine, we assumed that it was cocaine. The drugs were way better. The drugs were way better. And by way better, I mean, probably way more stepped on. The weed was shit. You don't have any like,

herpy, purpy, purple, nirpoles, you know, extra weedy dabs. Is it a name? No, there was no name. It was shit. That's what it was. It was brown. Smoke it or don't. Smoke it, get? No, there was no label. It was shit. That's what it was. It was brown. Smoke it or don't?

Smoke it, get ahead egg or sit there by yourself. If you don't complain, please. That's right. And but the LSD was good. That was good. Everything else was stepped on because we were teenagers and they saw us coming a mile away. They were like, well, yeah, give him the baking soda

for $50. I know. Tell him to taste it. Yeah, that's right. It's like the placebo effect. I just felt like I was high. I am so excited you're here because I have a couple of Ask TCB and I'm excited that you're here because you've been a fan of the show a long time. We've been good friends a long time.

So I knew there's some comfort level here. But also, I have two Ask TCBs. I think are great for us to discuss, and then we'll get into some more stuff later on in the show. So let's do this. Let's take our first break of the episode, and then we'll be back. Oki-doki.

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alright and we're back i'm sitting here with my longtime friend, sister I never had. Miss Tina, how are you doing? I'm really glad that you're here. I'm really glad that this all worked out as it did. I'm sad that the circumstances upon which it is and for those of you, I don't know how you didn't catch the first part of the episode if you're listening now, but Chrissy is out dealing with family health emergency and she says hello best of you and she will be back, but for the time being,

we've got Tina here with us. So Tina, I got an Ask TCB. This was a little while ago, but I think it's perfect that you're here and you can talk about it. As a person who has been on occasion, single over the last couple of years, do you go on the dating apps like Christina does?

Not the apps, I've been on that dating apps. The last few dates I've been on were not spawned by an app. They were more organic. Like at the bar. Like at the bar. Yeah, you got it. I think that's so much easier. That's easier, but it's so much more comfortable.

But to be fair, I did meet a man, you met it. I think that's so much easier. That is easier, but it's so much more comfortable. But to be fair, I did meet a man that you met him. I dated him for almost two years. He was wonderful. First date, straight off a OKCupid, only date I ever went on off of OKCupid and it lasted almost two years. Yeah. And I liked him. I thought for the moment, for the time, it was a good situation.

I liked them. And, you know, I have family members, like older family members in their 60s who met people on, you know, e-harmoning or match or whatever it was. And they went on to get married. I know. I have two friends that are marriages from dating apps. Yeah, I'm not saying it's all bad.

It just seems difficult to navigate, you know. There's so many of them. It's overwhelming. I end up turning them off. Like I know, there's so many of them. It's overwhelming. I end up turning them off. Like I'll install them to try to give them a shot. Yeah. But it's just too much. It's way too much.

The system's overload for sure. I'm glad I'm married. Because I think if I was single right now, I would just be a train wreck. I'm gonna be a lot of this. Because I always met. It's a mess out there. Except for Astrid.

I always met somebody at a bar, a friend of a friend. I only went on three updates, and they were all hot disasters. It's Astrid. It's Astrid. Yeah. I mean, one of the, Catgirl. Yeah, Catgirl, I had to get her out of a tree.

And then the other one wanted to give me a hand job at the bar, and I was like, could you not? Actually, actually, the bartender at my favorite bar, that been going to for years had to pull me aside and be like, Hey, dude, I never take him to your bar. I know I shouldn't have done it. And here's the crazy part is I took another update to the same bar like two weeks later. I know. I keep your watering hole synced.

And you know what the first thing the bartender said to me was because it's been the first time since I'd been there since the other day. You know what he said to me? What? Whatever happened to that chick you were here with that one night, it was because it's been the first time since I'd been there since the other day. You know what he said to me? What? Whatever happened to that chick you were here with that one night? It was like getting all scroungy. Oh my god, the bartender, I could have killed him. Fucking mule.

I loved him. He's my favorite bartender ever, but he really fucked it up that one time. So the date was over before it even began. Right? There was nothing else to say. That one girl, huh? Yeah, that one girl. Yeah.

I thought you'd never been on the dating apps. I'm going to need another drink. I'm going to need another drink on his tab. That's right. And your finest country fried steak. I'll take your finest drink with cherry juice. That's right. I'll take two of them. All right, here is your shooting your shot. Question ask TCB from our good friend, Jude.

Can't wait. Assuming Jude is a man. That's what I'm assuming. Okay, yo TECB, I need your advice on shooting my shot. About 10 years ago during my senior year of high school, I developed a huge crush on a girl, a grade below me. I didn't know her, never really spoke to her, and my only interaction, my only meaningful interaction with her,

was passing each other in the school hallways. I don't know how that's a meaningful interaction, but okay. I didn't even know she existed until I saw her one day early in the school year. Her and I never connected and I think I spoke about five words to her one night at a random party, but I was so off my face I wisely decided to start the conversation before I could get myself in trouble. Smart? Well played. to start the conversation before I could get myself in trouble. Smart, smart, self-aware. There you go.

Fast forward to about March of 2023 this year. And I get a follow on Instagram from the same woman. This is a huge surprise to me as we never really knew each other back then and we certainly know nothing about each other now. However, I think she might have a little thing for me. I need to know, I need you guys to tell me if I'm being crazy. I need to know if I'm reading this situation correctly. Every time I post a selfie, she gives it a heart.

Every time I post random pictures or clips of me and my friends, she makes some kind of comment, not necessarily flirty, but let me give you an example. I posted a picture of me and two of my buddies on the beach hanging out. She made the comment, got room for a fourth. Hmm, that doesn't seem flirty. It's a little saucy, yeah. That's not not flirty, that's flirty. Yeah, that's got some spice in it.

I think she's shooting her shot if I'm being honest. I just try. I just need to read the rest of this. Like that's it. You get that one time. If I'm single and I get that message, I am cyber stalking somebody. 100%. absolutely, right?

The one time I posted a picture of me and my female friend, her comment was, is this the new piece, or do you just have super hot friends? That's again, super flirty. That's got some flavor. And if she doesn't know that you're not with that girl, like if she's making the assumption that you might be with this girl, she says is that

the new piece? Well, she's really shooting her shot because she's now she's getting in the middle of a situation. Yes, she's engaging something that could go one of two ways quickly. That's it. She's throwing fireballs at you, dude. Okay. On one post I made, I was on vacation in Cabo and I made a real from the beach. She I am to me and said, next time, let your chick hitch a ride.

Dude, what are you, you don't even need to shoot your shot. She's shooting hers. Yeah, yeah, there's nothing to be said. I'm a little, when I read this initially, I felt the same way. I was like, why are you even asking the question? Yeah, you don't have to, yeah, you don't have to do anything. She's already doing the work. Dude, if you need a lot of hand holding here,

I can't give that to you. Just respond. Yeah, just respond to that. That's it. Uh, it certainly feels to me like she's got an angle, although, but I'm afraid of going out in a limb and getting hurt. I've been liking her pictures also,

but I'm too nervous to make any kind of flirty comment. I don't even know if she's single. Looks like she is, but I don't know. If she's not, why is she hitting on you? Yeah, dude. Either you got a catfish on your hands and a really convincing catfish on your hands, or she is definitely trying to get at you.

And I don't understand what the problem is. All you have to do is I am her. I am her back. Yeah. Hey, what's up? It's been a long time. Invited her to the beach. Yeah.

She clearly isn't to it. Take her down to Cabo. What girl's that into that? Here I am, all shy and excited. I've never been good at this type of interaction, and I'm really nervous to fuck up any chance that I might have. So what the fuck do I do? Am I reading this situation correctly?

Is she flirting? How do I approach this set? Take her out for a drink. Just not to your bar. Take her to a different park. Guys, you know, we've heard a couple of these similar type questions, right? Is someone flirting with me? I don't know if someone's flirting with me. I can't understand if someone's attracted to me. Here is my opinion. There is no handbook for this. There is no handbook for flirting. Some girls flip their hair, some girls say it out loud,

some boys, you know, stand with their hand on their hips. I don't know. The reality is if you get a whiff of flirtation, you're likely being flirted with. Yeah, if you think they're flirting. They're flirting. They're probably flirting. They're probably flirting.

And especially if you're not one of those guys who has a lot of, it sounds like you don't have a huge ego about any of this sounds like you're very nervous and shy Around the opposite sex and you're trying to figure out navigate whether or not this situation is open Like the door is open for you to go and I'm telling you dude the door is wide fucking open And there's a doggy door below it and the window and the window Actually, there are no doors on this building whatsoever. You can just walk right through. Yes, I am her. Grab your phone right now as you're listening to this episode. Grab the phone and write the following. Hey, how are you? Question mark. That's it. That's all you have to do. It's going to open up a whole can of worms for you, bro.

This girl again is a very convincing catfish or she likes you. How she likes you from 10 years ago when you guys didn't even know each other, I don't know. But stranger things have happened. It sounds like she also thought you were cute back in high school and continued to be cute to do it. Or she doesn't recognize you from high school, but notice is that you're friends with 44 other people she was in high school with because I've got some friends on social media like that.

Like, wait, you want to, my high school? Yeah. I guess we can be friends. Yeah, you know that's true. Do you know that a lot of times I'll look at, there's this one situation where I, a Facebook, which I almost never go on anymore, but a couple of weeks ago I opened it up.

And for years, I have been getting these posts from this girl. And I keep thinking to myself, I met her sometime as an adult in a business situation. It wasn't until I actually clicked her page, clicked on her page that I realized I actually went to school with this girl for four years. Yeah, I went 189 mutual friends. That's right. I made out with her multiple times in high school.

Yeah. I made out with her multiple times. high school. Yeah. That's it. I made out with her multiple times. We went to parties together. It wasn't until I actually put two and two together. For years, I thought this girl was some random friend that I met, random persons that I met in a business situation. And she ended up being a high school friend. This girl could not have any clue

that you went to her high school or she might know you went to her high school, but she has no idea who you are. It doesn't fucking matter anymore. She's still interested. She's still interested. She's still interested. Maybe that's a good opening line. Hey, how are you? Still interested? I have room for a fourth now. Yeah. I've got a passenger seat. My car had a down to

calvo. That's a good opening line. You know what you should say? Just pour it all out there on the first message. Say, Hey, how are you? By the way, back in high school, I secretly had a crush on you and followed you from school. Don't say that. Don't say that. Yeah. I'm afraid people take us seriously.

They end up in a stack of trouble. I don't think this is difficult. I don't think this is a difficult one. No. You just give us three examples of posts that you make and they are so clearly flirtatious. Yeah. That you're...

Quit stressing out, man. Just go for it. Yeah, you gotta relax. Yeah, just respond. So many times, we get messages like this, and people, they don't know how to interact when they're single. And I blame the apps a little bit for this. Yeah, they're to blame.

Because there is no, you don't have to have a lot of game in your personality. You just have to know how to type to people. And even if you have a little game in your personality, like Christina talked about, I've been personality catfish too. Oh yeah, you think this is gonna be somebody funny with a little bit of character.

A little pizzazz. And then you meet them and it's just like flat, flat line. They're like a Coke, Coca-Cola, it's been sitting out for two days. That's right. So what do you do in that situation? You realize you're the fun one and you move along. Yeah.

I mean, like in the moment, do you say, this is gonna be a short date? Yeah. Yeah, and just wrap it up. Absolutely. How short is it? What's the shortest date you've ever been? Oh hang on, Something just came up.

I'll text you later. Oh really? Oh for sure. It's like a 15 minute date? Yes. Oh wow. I've had friends that got left in restaurants. Like he goes to the bathroom and never comes back.

Yeah. I've had friends that will just get up and be like, this was really nice. Thank you so much. You know, one time I was on a date with a girl that I met through friends and it was kind of a blind, it was a blind date-ish. Like we knew each other, we had similar friends and common, we had been to a few parties

that never really spoke into each other. So we go on a date, afternoon date, go to a place, have a couple drinks, we're there for like two hours, we really hit it off. I think we were there. Nice date. Nice date. Nice date. She is a musician and she is going to go play

at this bar later on in the evening, asks me to come along. But I can't because I have other plans. So I say, listen, not today, I can't, I'm sorry, but I'll be happy to come see you some other time when you're playing, just let me know. She never responds to any message or phone call that I make after that.

And it's not until like, I don't know, months later, when I learned from one of her friends, the reason why she has ghosted me is I didn't go see her at this concert that she was playing. Night of. And she felt like I was making an excuse. Night of. Yeah, that's too much.

Like, if I have a date, do I have to clear the rest of my schedule off, or can I just, can I go on a date in the afternoon and go somewhere else at night? Two hours is a fair enough amount of time to a lot for a, especially a first date. If you are in a date for two hours, you assume it's going well. Correct. Right. As I did, laughs, giggles, lots of drinks, lots of stories back and forth.

I think we had a lot in common, little physical touching at the end of the date. And then she doesn't call me ever again. She's offended, I didn't show up to her show. Doesn't make sense. I didn't read that one right. I didn't read that one right, but am I supposed to clear three days around my schedule because I going out on a date with you?

Doesn't make any sense. Absolutely not. No. So, Jiu, bro, this is a clear cut case of your absolutely correct. She's flirting with you. Run, don't walk. Run to your local I.M. station and I.M. this girl,

back because you're gonna have a date. I promise you. Now the question is, is she even living the same town? Yeah, you guys local. Yeah, you guys local, are you in the same town? Are there other obstacles that need to be thought about? You say you think she's single, but you don't know for sure. Maybe she just wants a free trip to the beach.

Maybe her boy, maybe they have an open relationship. It doesn't really matter. There's a situation here for you, but if you take the situation in total, does it make sense for you to pursue it? You're not going to know that until you actually speak with her. Respond. Yeah, respond. And then I'd ask her a few questions like, you know, I don't know, when you walk in the

school building, when you walk in the high school building that you went to, do you take a left or a right to the bathrooms? Because you want to make sure she's not a catfish. It's hard. She's the D-Haul or the sea hall. Yeah. It was our 11th grade social studies teacher. You want to make sure you ask her a few questions.

What was that campus officer's name again? Yeah. Can you imagine for you with this guy advice? It loses $30,000 through a catfish. I don't want to be responsible for any advice I give here on this show. At all period of dissented. Do you have guys that shoot their shot in your I am? Never never never why I don't know I thought it was all dick pics and no, I don't get any of that. I really don't you don't get any event No, and I really don't get hit on that often. It's crazy. That can't be true It is really I've been told I'm intimidating. I've got that resting bitch face people don't want to talk to me Yeah, but I think there's a lot of guys that are into resting bitch face. Maybe, but they're not into me. Oh.

Most of the guys I did are, I pick them up. Do you want me to send you a few random dick picks from some Fins to accounts? I mean, maybe it'll make me feel a little more included or like part of this generation a little more. I'm gonna put it on my to do this. Everyone's in a blue mood. Everybody's in custody.

That's a random dick pick. Not my dick, but somebody else's dick. No, other dick, please. There's so many of them on the internet. They could find dicks all over the place. I thought that every woman would get some kind of, I've never received a random dick pick ever once. You are kidding me.

I wish I was. This is very surprising to me. I don't know why it's surprising to me, but it's surprising to me. I feel like guys are in this day and age are so fucking creepy. They shoot their shot with dick pics that every... It's a terrible way to do it. It's terrible way to do it.

I mean, unless it's asked for, unless it's like, can I see your job? It just on Fet Life, that's totally different. Fet Life? Is that fetish life? I don't even know this is. So I just did myself. You did just give you Fintina at FetLife.com. This episode's sponsored in part by FetLife.com.

Are you into sharp pointy things in your ainus? FetLife.com. Maybe you guys are right on your phone. I'm right on your phone. This leads perfectly into our topic today. So we got a question a couple months ago, and I have been waiting to have you on the show to ask this question. Here it is.

I'm just going to give it to you because it's short, it's sweet, and I already know it by heart actually. Oh, awesome. Because I thought this was so weird and I didn't really understand what was being asked until you mentioned this. And I knew that you were happy on it. The gentleman says he had been in a relationship for about four months.

He had been dating a woman for about four months, but he was other kin and had yet to tell her. He met her at a bar. He had yet to explain to her that on his days off, he liked to other kin. Or when he was not working, he was other kin. Please explain to us what other kin is. Other kin are people who feel like their spirit isn't human.

Like a wolf or a dog. Sometimes a magical creature like a unicorn or a dragon. Yeah, and they think that that's their true self. Okay. Not human. So they're not like a furry. They don't necessarily want to dress up, but they feel like spiritually they are a pony, a wolf. We've done these.

We've done cat with the girl who was a cat. That's right. That's an other kid. Really creepy relationship with a very older man. It's just a weird thing that he's like, I guess he wanted to divulge that information to your partner. I think you would. Like if it's such a big part of your life,

you feel, does he go run, what does he think he is? Or what does he think? I think it was a wolf is what he said. He likes to go run around in the woods. Yeah, you know, run around the woods, run around the woods and howl at the moon and all that stuff. I like doing that too sometimes,

but I don't think I'm a wolf. No, I don't think you're a wolf either. All right, well. I think you're more like a dolphin with fangs. I can't accept I can't swim. I can't swim. I can't swim. You can wolf either. All right, well. I think you're more like a dolphin with fangs. I can't accept I can't swim. I'm still a dolphin with fangs. I can't swim. You can't swim.

You can't swim. I can't swim. I don't know you for 30 years. And I don't know that you can't swim. How many times have we been in a pool together? I don't know. I can't swim. I don't remember at time when we were in a pool together.

Because I don't want to drown. Holy shit. Holy shit. Yeah. Why don't you swim? You don't like the water? My parents put me in swimming lessons when I was young and then I skipped them.

Yeah? Because I didn't like going. And I got caught, but the day they caught me, skipping was like four weeks in. Oh no. And they made me jump off the high dive. And they're like, no, we're gonna catch you. And no one did.

And so I just don't like being under water now. You know, I was just speaking with Astrid about this. There are some parents who put their babies, brand new babies in the water. And it's- And you can birth them into the water. Of course. Yeah.

That's their in liquid. Those ones, those ones. Those ones. Those ones. Yeah. And I see the videos of them swimming, but it's so terrifying to me to do that, that I would much prefer my children

to be able to use their arms in their legs before I actually throw them in the water. A little bit of coordination. Yeah. Yeah, I was probably three or four and I got left behind on the first day to swim lessons. And so they made me go sit with the babies where my kid brother was. Oh. Well, I'm watching because that's my little brother and these babies are biting each other

and one of the teachers don't slick liquid soap in the baby's mouth. So now, I don't ever want to go. I want to go watch my brother. So I intentionally hid when the bus was leaving for swim lessons from my daycare to watch. Yeah, so they would send me into the baby room, and I would just watch and make sure they weren't put in soap in my baby brother's mouth.

Oh, my God. Yep, and so I don't know how to swim because somebody soaked a baby. Do you have any desire't know how to swim because somebody soaked a baby. Do you have any desire to learn how to swim? Robbie wants me to learn how to swim. He thinks it's a life skill. I do agree.

Like a survival skill. He may hurt his song from tool. I love that reference. Yeah, I'm 44. I've survived thus far. Yeah. I don't know that if it's a survival skill, I will necessarily need. Do you go to the beach? Do you go out in the ocean?

Yeah, I go to the beach every year. You go in the ocean? To my, yeah, to my ways. To my ways. To your ways. To your ways. Yeah. Wow. I don't want to go further than that, even if I could swim. It's dangerous

and there's sharks and stuff out there. Oh, I don't disagree with you there. Yeah, I respect to the sea. Yeah, we went to Spain and we're out in the Mediterranean sea on this boat and the guy just like plunks the anchor down. He's like, okay, jump in, you can see straight down to the Mediterranean. The Mediterranean.

And you can see all these fish in there. I'm not getting in there with them. I am a lovely swimmer. I can swim. I can swim probably for hours, right? I was a lifeguard at one point, but I still don't have any interest in communing with the fish. Nope. You, people go snorkeling and I'm like snorkeling. Why don't go any interest in communing with the fish. Nope.

People go snorkeling and I'm like snork, I don't go bother the fish and the eels and the sharks. I don't want anything to do with that. They're not hanging around my house. I'm not gonna hang around there. Yeah, but the craziest part is I would rather be, I would not rather be anywhere except for next to water. Like I love the water.

Yeah, for vacations especially. Yeah, I just don't have any interest of jumping in that. I'm not getting in the lake either. Wow. Tina, I never knew this about you. Well I love the water. Yeah, for vacations, especially. Yeah, I just don't have any interest of jumping in that. I'm not getting in the lake either. Wow. Tina, I never knew this about you. Well, there you go. Look out for the commercial breaks new YouTube special. Tina learns how to swim. It will surely be entertaining. It was. Sure.

It'd be entertaining. I'll sauce up real good. I'm going to call our insurance agent to see how much this one is going to cost. So other kin, people who's spirits, are people who feel their spirits are other women, or animal, not human. Just not human. Just not human.

So other kin is this whole subculture making its way. It's like past, yeah. What you identify at your gender and all that's totally different, this is your spirit itself is not human. Can this also be a kink? I mean, I don't know. Like the girl who was a cat and like it was a it was like a sexual fetish for the guy. If it turns you on sexually, then it's a kink. But if it doesn't have a kink, if it doesn't have a fetish nature to it or a sexual component to it

for you, you just think you're a wolf and you want to go to work as a wolf. Then it wouldn't be considered a king. So it can be. So it's much like the furry community where many of them dress up for the fun of it and because they like to pretend that there's some kind of stuff animal, right? Or furry. The one furries that most furries are not, it's not a king. They call those guys fervards.

Fervards. I love that word so much. I do too. So a lot of furries don't appreciate the fervards. Fertainsting. Fertainsting their community with their fervorsions. I get asked. I just love it. I think it's awesome.

And listen. It is awesome. I have no bone to pick with anybody who is harmlessly having, be whatever you want to be. You want to be a wolf? Honestly. I mean, you got to get a job. But be a wolf too.

Be a wolf at work, I guess. Maybe you could get full time in a full time with this. And what I would suggest is, like, just bring this stuff up in conversation. Send her a video, like, hey, if you're into this, what's your thoughts on it? Yeah. Kind of break the ice. I wouldn't jump right in and be like, hey.

Yeah. But it's that way with any type of kink or anything that's, I don't know, a little abnormal. It brings up a good question. When in the relationship do you announce your kink? Are you asking me personally? I'm asking you personally. Well, I'm asking you personally. Well, I'm asking you from your frame of reference.

I don't know about part of these. Yeah, so when you meet someone in a kink community, then of course, it comes out right away. Yeah. Introducing it into the bedroom inside the interpersonal relationship after the relationship has been established is a little more, it's a little trickier.

It's a little complicated. Yeah, especially when you like weird stuff. All right, let's take a break and then we're going to get into it. I got a video because I thought to myself, well, what better way to learn about other kin than to find out the top 10 things you shouldn't do when looking for your other kin's spirit? So in other words, she's going to walk us through this.

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I'm here with my good friend, longtime supporter of the commercial break, producer of the, you know, content producer of the commercial break, Tina, you've heard her name a lot here on the show. She's finally behind the microphone. First time on a microphone too. First time.

It's going good. I like it. I like it. Okay, so we were talking about other kin and other kin are people, humans who think spirit, they believe is not human, or they identify as something else, and that could be a wolf or a dog or a dolphin or a unicorn tree. Whatever.

Okay, so I thought the best way to get an introduction into other kin is to find out what not to do when you're looking for your other kin- Other kin. Other kin. Your other kin. to find out what not to do when you're looking for your other kin. Other kin. Other kin. Your other kin. Other kin, other kin. So I found this video online. Let's take a listen.

And so without further ado, I was throwing on the internet. As you do. As I do. Like to do. And this young lady's gonna teach us all about what not to do when looking for your other kin spirit. All right.

I'm so excited. This is actually the first time I am making a video inside my new apartment. I know that in my previous video, I was also already making some shots of my apartment and everything. But that was mainly outside. So that doesn't really count in my pain. This is the first time I'm talking into the camera in this

new apartment. And I am so stoked. When I got my first apartment, I was really stoked too. I got kicked out two months later, but it was a very nice apartment for... I can feel her excitement. I was living with a couple of adult dancers who had a hard time paying rent and not buying, okay? Before I start this video, I want to give a shout out to our ArtConsist winner of the Therian Territory Discret Server, which is the one and only Oak Leaf Attigers.

No, look, she's got the same sound effect that I do. We're in the same territory here. Oak Leaf Tiger. It's amazing. ArtConsist! Yes, so basically the prize of winning first place in the ArtConsist in my Therian Territory Discret Server. Oh, so just so you know, she's got some art behind her.

I'm gonna fast forward to this just a little bit. I think some of this may not be very relevant, but let's get to the part where she's talking about. There we are. There we are. Hi guys, welcome back to my favorite and territory. You may call me Thorne. In today's video, I want to do something fun

and at the same time a little bit educational because I think a lot of people in the community, especially those who are new in the community, should kind of know about this. I am talking about the don'ts, of finding if you're a theory or a other kid, and finding out your theory types or kind types. As most people in the Altarium can see.

So what's theory in? I'm not, I think it's just another word for the same for other kids. Yeah, maybe they maybe one identifies as like magical creatures and one identifies as like animal creatures. I think that might be, that might be more of the indication here. Hopefully she'll fill it. Yeah, fill it.

Maybe she'll let us know. What if I want to be do a leap up for a day? What does that make me? T who have been in the community here for a little longer than a few months probably know that most new variants and most new other kin will fall into these rabbit holes when trying to find their identities. And I am basically here to tell you don't. Try to prevent yourself from doing this because you will end up not being educated, being

misinformed, or having the wrong identities. A bit of a discat- Wait, how can you have the wrong identity? How can you have the wrong identity? Isn't that something you're like feeling? Yeah. I don't know because I don't feel like a wolf on a normal day. I feel like an asshole sometimes, but not a wolf.

It's just with the acid. But don't you think? I thought it was a rat one time when I was terrific. It was a really weird experience. So, don't you think that you walk into this kind of already understanding? Wouldn't you go looking because you already have some kind of understanding?

I think so. Like, I don't think I would tumble upon one of these videos not having- Like, you and I can't just go in there and be like, all right, what's our theory and identity? Yeah, because- There's no test you can take. Yeah, I'm just gonna understand. Tell me more.

Tell me more. Get educational here. Of course, I cannot tell you if you are alter human or not. I cannot tell you if you actually have their inter-phic experiences or actual other can experience, et cetera. So whatever I am saying is simply put in general. I am not talking about specifically you

that you are doing something wrong or anything. I am mainly just talking about, hey, maybe try to prevent doing this things because maybe it will turn out bad for you. And without any further ado, let's get to the list. How could it turn out bad for me? Yeah, I'm really confused. Is this a dangerous group of people? Is there a- could you wrongfully identify as like a dolphin and whoops? I'm really a wolf. I can't swim. I was flipping around one day. Yeah, I was flipping around one day and I closed came out.

I realized I was a tiger. Here I was in the water and I found out I was a monkey who can't swim. So the first one seems quite obvious, but I keep seeing people making the same mistakes over and over again, do not jump into the Therian or other kin identity before having done proper research. The altering of a new identity, specifically the Therian and the other kin identity, are incredible hard concepts to grasp. Because Therians and other kin are actually open-minded enough to see themselves as a non-human

being on a non-physical level. I, for example, can confirm... I'm a little confused by this. Is this sounding a little confusing to you? Yeah, and I'm not really sure what she's truly getting at. Like, this isn't a spirit animal situation. Like, oh! Yeah. My spirit animal's a bear. This is like her spirit as an animal. Her spirit is an animal, and on occasion, she identifies as an animal her spirit is an animal and on occasion she identifies as an animal and She also acts like an animal. I would imagine yeah, I'm hoping we get to see. I'm hoping to I'm desperately hoping I identify as a Therian throat because I experience the big behaviors and such I

Actually think I am a wolf. I actually think I am a better fish But it's just on the non-fish. A bed of fish and a wolf? Who? Wow. Well, cool. If we can have multiple identities, I'm in.

That's a fuck yeah for me. I'm a wookie. I'm an oak tree. And I'm a sloth. Those three things. Blegal. So don't go around telling yourself you're a fairy and all that can just because you have a favorite animal,

for example. That simply isn't there to be any other kinety. It's an actual identity. You actually think you are the animal or the non-human being. Number two. Okay, I get that part. This is not like my favorite animal is a dolphin.

I like dolphins. They're really cool. Animals, this is, I am a dolphin. I am a raven. Yes. I am in my pool trying to kick myself up to the top. Immediately assuming that your favorite being is your favorite type or your kin type,

your identity is not defined by an animal that you love so dearly. So your love for a specific animal will not determine if you're a Therian or other kin. So when you are questioning if you are a Therian or other kin, don't immediately say the first animal that comes into your mind which would be your favorite animal. Yourtherian or aothekin, I'd say.

Yeah, I would think this is not one of those situations when you go. I really like coalo bears and then all of a sudden you're eating you. Yeah, I'm eating you colipters. I've just got gucalifters, pushing around the house. Singing from a tree. Hang on, hang on, hang on. He is not about what animals you like. It's purely about the experiences you have,

the non-human experiences that you face, such as urges and shifts and instincts and everything. I love tigers. In fact, I am other-hearted. I am Tyra Kith for anyone who knows what that means. I love tigers. In fact, I am other-hearted. I am Tyra Keef for anyone who knows what that means. I love tigers with a passion. I have a very strong connection with them too. I feel very deeply with them and I relate to them very deeply. But I am not Tyra Keef. I don't identify as a tiger because I don't

experience tiger behaviors, tiger urges, tiger. I, I, I, I know. I'm more confused than I was when I started the video. Okay. She hasn't told us what not to do yet. What not to do? Just don't pick your favorite animal. That's what she's saying is don't pick your favorite animal. Let's get to the, I don't, don't do these things when you're trying to pick your, your

other kids. Discover. Yeah. Yes, et cetera. Number three, don't call yourself a tharian or other kid because you want to be or because you think it's cool. They mean to be a non-human being, to identify as a being that is a human,

is a very bold identity to take. Because think about it. What I am saying here as a tharian is that I am not just human, I am also a wolf. And that may sound cool to a lot of people and a lot of people may think, oh, I want to have that too. It doesn't sound cool. No.

No. Well, I mean, this sounds fine. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. I don't think anyone's going to masquerade as such, nor do I think I would be offended if they wanted to.

Yeah. Like, go ahead, do you? Yeah. Do you? And it seems like we're getting a little pickier choosy about who's in and who's out. Yeah. But sort of like the furries being meant at the furverts at this point. The furverts.

I love it. Yeah. I want to have a furvert on the show. Please. I can find one for you. Okay. Find me a furvert, and I want to talk to them. We can blank their face out and put a weird modulation on their voice. No,, just let them come in costume. Oh yeah, that's a really good idea.

I want to think that I am wolf as well, but the thing is there have to be an other kind of tea is not a choice. We don't choose for these experiences to happen. Therefore, if you don't experience anything like this, if you don't have any shifts, or just instincts, et cetera, you're likely just not a Therian or all the kin. And that's totally okay. You didn't ever lie to yourself about such bold identities.

It's like staying your gay while you're actually not. Adding to this is number four. And that's never happened before. Right. Don't conclude any Therotypes based on self-induced shifts. Shifts can be triggered. You can basically tell yourself, I want to have a shift very badly. I'm going to do this in order to get a shift and then I will feel more like my animal or

non-human being in a cell. Most shifts, theetherians and other can't experience are usually not self-induced. They just happen. They're triggered by outside factors Or they just come out of the blue and they cannot help it. Is she saying she just randomly turns into a wolf? Yeah, I think that's what she's trying to trying to get at here is that if you force a Shift like if you know it's like teen wolf like he could Shape shift. Yeah, he could could now the fact that he is You know he got extra hair under his arm. It's over. You're in a really you know stressful basketball type situation

And you're playing the big give the big game with the team boom all of a sudden you're aware of all Oh man, this is too funny. Yeah, there you go. The dolphin shot the big three pointer. Oh, it went in. Yeah. But I think of Ace Venturo. Yeah. I don't get it. I just don't get it. So if you force the shift, then you're not real.

It's not real. You're a poser. Yeah, you're a poser. Yeah. But if you're at work and your boss tells you I really need that report on my desk by running. Yeah. Then you're probably a theory. Yeah. And you turn into a slogan. Then you're probably a theory. Yes, and you turn into a slug. Then you're probably a theory. And however, if you force yourself into a slug-like position, then you're just faking. Yeah. But when looking for your thing and other conidentities, you shouldn't try to induce your shifts yourself,

because that's not reliable. I would want to do it all the time. Yeah, I mean, honestly, so if you have like a regular day time job, or you go to school, right, then you can't help when you turn into, I don't know. A sloth. A dung beetle, or whatever it is, you're into. Yeah.

However. Whatever you are. Whatever you are. It's not what you're into. It's what you're are. That's right. If you're into it, then you're not into it. If you are, then you're into it.

Okay, got it. 10-4. Totally confused. We all we all clear now yeah we're all clear i mean listen i'm not belittling anybody who who is considers himself other can i'm having fun we're trying to understand it yeah we're the first people to folk on it ourselves so we're gonna do it with other people to work with opportunity defenders here but what i'm trying to understand is like, I know some young people who, I know a young girl, she's not a young girl, she's 21 years old, and she likes to wear, you know, the Fox ears and the Fox tail. And you know, she, lots of pictures on Instagram and stuff like that.

I imagine that she is identified as other kind. But I don't see her at functions, turning into an actual fox. To see if she just turns into a squirrel and scrambles up the tree. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I just, okay, we'll keep going.

Can you control the shift? Like, okay. No. We're not gonna have one now. Yeah, it's coming here. It comes. I'm gonna control myself. Yeah, it's like a boner as a seventh grader.

Like, uh-oh, here. Everybody lay down. What? Stay down, stay down, stay down. I remember I was start playing the drums with my feet. Just start your blanket over your head. Yes, it's coming.

It's so crazy. I couldn't get out of bed and walk down the hallway for like two and a half hours because my morning boner wouldn't go away. Just leading me to want to pee more and more boner activity. It's on experiences that aren't on purpose basically. I'm gonna get to tiger as an example because it's a good one. Say I want to be a tiger also badly and I try to induce shifts which I could do in order to feel more like a tiger that doesn't mean that I'm tiger kin because if there aren't the B and other kinetics,

he aren't a choice, it shouldn't be a choice to shift as your Theo or Kintai either. Number five would be- That part I just don't, I don't get it. Yeah, it's a circle, she's just talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the Frankie B of the other kin world. There you go.

Concluding that you're a fairer in all the kin or concluding any fairer attached to your kin types, purely based on a deep connection, a deep love, or relating to an animal or non-human being very specifically. I have to say, this is quite debated within the all-her-human community, because some believe that if your connection is so strong,

that you actually see yourself as the non-human being, then you might as well be fair and all the kin. Yeah, I would think so too. She said the non-human being. Then you might as well be Therian or other Hinnon. Yeah, I would think so too. She said the same thing five times. I know, this is five times in a row, she's been saying the same thing. Yeah. Okay.

If you identify with it, if you really like an animal, it doesn't mean you are one. It doesn't mean you are one. Yeah, but if you are one, then you are one. Then you are one. I am not going to deny this theory because we can never know. However, it is most commonly agreed upon that Therian to be in other Kinniti are not based on connection only. Because we can never know. However, it is most commonly agreed upon that therapy and other

Kinetic are not based on connection only. It's usually experience and maybe also connection. The connection isn't necessarily needed because as soon as you experience non-human behavior from a specific non-human being, then you can consider that there to be another Kinetic. However, if you only have a connection to the specific animal, then it's likely that you're other-hearted or animal-hearted. These are terms to describe your incredible- Oh my god, I am totally confused now. This is insane. I'm totally confused. I don't know what we're talking about anymore. I thought we were going to be an easy one. Like, tell us what to do or what not to do. But that went down a rabbit hole. I never expected.

Not what I was expecting for sure. You know what this proves again and again and again and Chrissy and I talk about this all the time on the show. If you are into something, somebody is talking about it on the internet. Somebody is worried. Don't worry, you're not alone. You're never alone.

The weirdest, strangest, craziest things happen. It's on Fet Life already, don't worry. It's on Fet Life and so is Tina. Finder on Fet Life. Okay, I don't even know what to say. Other kid, we love you. Darian, we love you. You're welcome here.

You don't have to actually force the shit. You don't have to have the shifts yourself. You can force something. You can still be a commercial break listener. We're with you. You can be the animal you love. Oh yeah have the shifts yourself you can force some you can still be a commercial break listener we're with you you can be the animal you love yeah we're gonna be the like we're gonna be really tolerant other kin friends of other kin here absolutely if you like tigers you two are a tiger you get a tiger and you get a tiger and you get a tiger I don't want to

get into the thick of the debate all kin welcome here all kin welcome here and you certainly are whatever you do as long as you're not hurting other people, fine by me. We support you. All good with me and trust me, I got my own kinks. You don't want to know about them. Cream and cereal. That's all that I got to say.

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