The Commercial Break - StarSeed Butt Cheeks
Episode Date: October 10, 2025EP845: Tina joins Bryan in studio for a Horror-ific episode! All forms of crime, murder and serial horror is discussed. But it's the butt of one young influencer that has Bryan wondering where all th...e "magic" in magic mushrooms has gone! TCB Clips: Starseed Butt Cheeks Watch EP #845 on YouTube! Text us or leave us a voicemail: +1 (212) 433-3TCB FOLLOW US: Instagram: @thecommercialbreak Youtube: youtube.com/thecommercialbreak TikTok: @tcbpodcast Website: www.tcbpodcast.com CREDITS: Hosts: Bryan Green & Krissy Hoadley Executive Producer: Bryan Green Producer: Astrid B. Green Voice Over: Rachel McGrath TCBits & TCB Tunes: Written, Voiced and Produced by Bryan Green. Rights Reserved To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On this episode
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I just don't think you would be talking
about it in this way
If it was a super meaningful experience
It's not a pop music
It's not a pop
No it's not
No, it's not a butt cheek kind of situation.
It's a disembodiment is what it is.
And I've talked about it a lot, and I've talked about it on this show.
So I don't want to be a hypocrite here and say that, you know,
but I'm not doing that for views.
I'm just sharing my, I mean, maybe.
And luckily, you kept your butt cheeks to yourself.
I don't know that I did, but I don't think anybody wanted to notice had I.
Everyone else was doing it, too, for the shaman and the paramedics in the room.
The next episode of the commercial break starts now.
Oh, yeah, cats and kittens.
Welcome back to the commercial break.
I'm Brian Green.
This is my co-host for the moment.
Tina, best to you, Tina.
Best to you, Brian.
And best to you out there in the podcast universe.
Chrissy, we hope, limping her way back from info to return next week.
No, I actually text it with her, and she's on her way home, kids.
She's on her way home.
So hopefully we'll have her back here next week.
And I'll be excited to see her back in the chair.
But I've really enjoyed having you here for the last couple of weeks.
It's been a lot of fun.
It's different.
It's been, you know, every once in a while, you shake things up.
It turns out in our favor.
I really have enjoyed our conversation.
I've actually had a few text messages already about our conversation yesterday with your chat, GPC, which was very interesting indeed.
I'm probably not the first to interview.
I'm not the first to interview
an AI agent on air
but I thought it was a good conversation
that we had with your chat GPT agent
you go back and listen to that if you want to
I am right now
I'm on episode three and a half
of Monsters
the Ed Gein's story
and it is getting weird
I mean it was weird from the beginning
but now it's getting really weird
and I do have to say that this is
I mean I have liked all of them
I like the OJ one
I like the Versace one
one. I liked monsters. The Menendez brothers was excellent. So good. And now the OJ.
one, he has done it again with the Ed Gein's story. It's really fascinating. And the way he
intertwines the pop culture aspect of like our horror flicks right in with it. So I love that he
contextualized it with what was happening in the world. Like you listen. Like 30, 40 years later.
Yeah. You listen to true crime stories and they don't often tell you who's president. They don't really
tell you what's going on globally.
This sort of gives you a really wholesome perspective.
It's got holistic.
Yeah, he looks at Ed's world and understands it in context.
And Ed Gein, who is known to be, like, he is the basis for a lot of the very monstrous
things that we see in horror movies.
Halloween, Leatherface, Psycho, being really the very first kind of horror horror movie
from Alfred Hitchcock, Silence of the Lambs, I think, just kind of really rips off.
Ed Gein's story for the most part. It rips it off completely in my opinion. I mean, like the horror
part of it. That's right. Yeah. It does. And then it throws in some very interesting characters
and brings it to the 21st century. But, and Silence of the Lambs is a truly fantastic movie.
If you haven't seen it, it made a lot of news at the time when it came out. It was on everybody's
lips. It was just the movie that you had to see because it's at that time, kind of indescribable,
what goes on in that movie. Now, we've seen this storyline play out a million other times since then.
Sure.
But the cross-dressing, making masks out of skins, making whole costumes out of skins,
lampshades, ashtrays out of dead body parts, necrophilia, like kind of this repression
of a certain kind of sexuality, along with an overbearing mother figure, turned, and
schizophrenia, turned Ed into a monster himself.
And his story in and of itself is not the worst serial.
killer we've ever seen. Not the most prolific, but the deeds might be the most insane.
The things that he did with the bodies, dead or alive, or in between when he did it, and he didn't
kill a ton of people. What he did was he was really into necrophilia and the fascination with
dead people and their skins and their bones. And he just didn't look at them like people. He
saw them as objects to be played with and art to be made and just like fucked up shit. And I love
how Ryan Murphy
has taken that
and contextualizes it
like you said.
Brilliant.
I'll just share a little bit
and you can go watch it yourself.
But Psycho,
Alfred Hitchcock took the Ed Gein's story,
the book that was written
called Psycho about Ed Gein.
He took that and he made it into a movie
and at the time you can only imagine
the 50s, the 19, late 40s, early 50s.
Cinema was kind of a newish art form,
especially talking cinema.
And Alfred Hitchcock
makes this bloody, gory, fucked up movie about Ed Gein.
It was like the first sex and violence sort of expose.
It was.
And the way that people reacted to that was they were terrified, they were horrified.
And they loved it.
And they loved it.
They loved it every minute of it.
It's still one of the most classic movies ever.
I mean, Psycho is on the top 10 list of every movie ever.
Oh, yeah.
Alfred Hitchcock created a masterpiece out of kind of the most, like, the devilish.
Grusome.
Most devilish parts of humanity, like really the underbelly of humanity.
And his whole point was to bring it out into the light to say, we want to pretend that this doesn't happen.
But it does happen.
And I want to show it the way that it does happen.
And so he intertwines the Ed Gein's story with the making of Psycho and what was going on at the time on the set.
It's just fascinating.
It's fucking fascinating.
Good for you, Ryan Murphy.
I mean, make a million more.
He's just brilliant.
I know.
Make a million more.
The Jeffrey Domer's next.
And I cannot wait.
Who is?
Lizzie Borden, I think it's in the early 1900s, she kills her family with the axe.
You know, there's like a little nursery rhyme.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, I know, okay.
So that's what he's doing next.
I cannot wait.
Lovely.
Keep them coming.
Keep them coming.
I mean, it's terrible.
It's like a train wreck.
You can't stop watching.
We love it.
I love it.
I'm all about it.
We just can't get enough of it.
The Jeffrey Dahmer story.
That was also so well done.
Fucking A.
That was so good.
I wanted 12 more episodes of that.
Yeah. I was fascinated by that case because I was alive when that all started to unravel. And that was a fascinating, fascinating case, a terrible case. And people, a lot of people lost their lives in the most vicious of ways. But this is a really well done crime drama. And I love it. Super dark. Yeah. If you're, if this guy, my wife, Asterd would never be able to watch, not even a half a minute of this. But I just love it. I love watching it. And I am in tandem watching.
Task, the HBO crime drama. Okay. And give you my login. Task is excellent. It's excellent.
In a tradition and a long line of HBO making great crime dramas, here is another one.
The first three episodes were watched by a lot of critics before it actually released, and they said, eh, you know, whatever.
But it is such a, it is so fucking good. You need to watch Task. I'll give it to you.
in the air of, in kind of the same vein as sharp objects,
air of, air of east, mayor of east town, is that what was called?
Mayor of Easttown, you don't have it, so you don't know.
Yeah.
The Knight of, Tokyo Vice, Perry Mason, they have really also done a great job with that
kind of serialized crime drama stuff.
There's made up usually of whole cloth, like it's not a story, you know, they're not true
stories, but wow, what a great time to be alive for television.
I mean, honestly, what a great time to be alive for television.
Hate what streaming is doing to television, but love the fact that it's out there.
And then I can watch all the episodes of the Ed Gein story.
At one time.
At one time.
That's what I did.
I couldn't look away.
I was driving me crazy about aliens, which, did you watch aliens?
I have not.
Well, I guess we can talk about it now because it's been a couple weeks since the final episode aired.
I was so into it episode number one.
episode number two, I didn't feel as excited about.
Episode number three and four, I got really excited about.
Re-invigorated, yep.
Yeah, but I felt like it ended kind of on a weak note.
I understand, and a lot of loose ends that weren't tied up, I thought it was wonderfully
acted that you see a lot of these creatures, and now there's five different of them,
not just the one alien that we all know about from the movies.
There's different aliens that have come back to Earth from some, you know, research
spaceship.
It's terrifying.
It's gross.
It's bloody.
I'm usually not into this sci-fi drama, you know, horror bullshit.
Yeah, that's how I am.
But I really got wrapped up into this and I thought it was really well done.
But then I thought it ended so weekly that they better have a season two and they better
wrap up some of these storylines or else I'm going to be pissed that I invested all this
fucking time in nothing, nothing.
That's so frustrating.
It is so frustrating.
So you were sharing with me.
I went down a rabbit hole
maybe like three, four, five months ago.
I heard about the telepathy tapes
and then you texted me about it the other day.
The last one to know.
I just found it.
I bet there are a lot of people
that don't know about the telepathy tapes.
It showed up on like a recommended for you
or something on my podcast app.
And I was like, oh, what's this?
Because I'm sort of witchy
into that kind of thing.
And yeah, it was not what I expected.
Okay.
So for the audience who doesn't know,
explain what the telepathy tapes are um i don't know what the actual tapes are i just found the podcast
apparently there's um maybe it was a youtube movie or something to that effect i think there's some
documentary out there they're suggesting that uh they say non speakers which i understood
autistic nonverbal nonverbal yeah um are telepathic and that they're like training them or using
some facilitated form of communication to get these messages out. It's a very strange phenomena.
Okay, so let me explain just a little bit. So we give a little color commentary to this. Autistic nonverbal.
So kind of the most severe form of autism. Maybe even having ticks, maybe even being physically
impaired in some way, shape, or form. And you have a therapist that comes in and works with that person to try and get some version of communication.
in a way that the autistic nonverbal person
might be able to communicate something.
Their needs, their wants, their desires,
just say yes or no, I love you, whatever.
And that therapy, what's happening is essentially
an interpretation of what may or may not be going on
in somebody's mind.
It's very controversial, by the way.
And there's a lot of scientists,
there's a lot of criticism about this facilitated communication.
Yes.
Because a lot of people say,
let's just say this,
if I told you for your entire life that two and two was three, if I said that to you, right? And that's
which you believed, then you would never, you could never communicate with me that two and two is four
because that's not what you learn. That's not what you know. That's not your world. That's not what you
understand. I'm giving you a very simple premise. And if someone comes in and then they try to
interpret my world, even though I understand it's three, I can't replicate what I understand.
and what I know. And either can someone outside my own brain, they cannot pull that information
out of me. And especially when there's no, like we don't have an established version of that
communication. There's no neurolink inside of their head. Right. So their world is three and our
world is four. And how do we get to a ground where we understand each other? I don't know.
To be determined, because I think that facilitated communication has fallen out of fashion in a lot of
in a lot of areas of the world.
Yeah, they also suggested on those telepathy tapes
that there's a school you can attend
or a course you can get to learn how to communicate
like you and I could just sit here
and speak brain to brain.
Okay, so this goes down a whole different rabbit hole.
The CIA did very famous work on this and probably still does.
For 20 years, no, it's been shut down.
Okay, that version has been shut down, right?
Yeah, they're not going to tell you about the one that's the...
It was Stargays, Stargate.
Stargate?
Yeah, I think it's called Stargate.
I think it's called Stargate, too.
Project Stargate.
What is the famous CIA studies or division that used to study remote viewing, telepathy?
Yes, that's what they were known for.
And certain types of psychic powers.
I think it was called Stargate.
That's what me and I talked about on the one.
way home yesterday is that project stargate exactly yeah that's the one it was called project stargate
and it basically involved the CIA and some other agencies looking into remote viewing and all kinds
of psychic stuff so you got it right on the nose okay thanks um so now now i'm having conversations
with my chat tcb okay now it's just a part of the show this is a third co-host here to make sure
that brian says things correctly um project stargate
You know, they did some, a lot of studies on this, 20 years.
Yeah, 20 years.
And they would give people LSD.
They would do all kind of shit.
And there were some people who had some level of success doing this,
like scientifically understood, as much as you can understand,
telepathy and, you know, remote viewing.
They had some success.
They saw stuff across the world that they could only know.
Yeah, they would give them coordinates.
Yep.
And some people, you know, I asked how they vetted these test subjects.
Yeah.
Um, most of them came from paranormal parapsychology and, uh, highly decorated detectives,
you know, some sort of law enforcement background. Um, but yeah, some of them were spot on and
most of them were not, which is why they discontinued the program. Very, very few of them actually
had like a success that was measurable, but the few that did had amazing things that were happening, right?
And so, but, you know, how could they use it? How could they do it? How could they replicate it?
They never knew. So they shut it down.
Yeah. They also shut it down because they were doing controversial things like dropping, you know, 55,000 micrograms of LSD and someone's coffee in the morning and then following them around until they had schizophrenia.
But the, was that the staring at goats thing? I don't know. Anyway, so this is all very subjective. And, you know, to go to a course for a weekend.
Unreal. And then come out and think that you can communicate verbally.
Telepathically with your autistic.
child or, you know, it's just, I don't know, I don't know where to fall on on it, but it weirds
me out. Okay. I also understand that if you have a child that is nonverbal, I have children,
and if they were nonverbal, when they were nonverbal, like the dog that I have running around
here, it's incredibly frustrating. Like, when my dog is hurt, I wish I could say, I wish they
could tell me what's going on. You can sense it to a point, you know, your babies cry and
stuff like that, but this, uh, mentally just sitting in a room together.
Having a whole conversation back and forth.
How's your lunch?
Yes.
And the whole premise of the telepathy tapes is that some of these kids are like, you know, super psychic and they can guess what number you're thinking.
And they can tell you what, you know, what's going to happen in a week or they can, you know, talk to Ann Edna who died a week, you know, a month ago.
So they're essentially creating these little Teresa Caputo's out of children who already have enough problems as it is.
This is sort of how I feel about it.
It's like it's a weird hope maybe.
I don't know.
Yeah. I wonder if in this day and age anything is hope or views, right? It's all like, I mean, I want to be sensitive about the subject because having an autistic child that's nonverbal has got to be an incredibly difficult and painful experience and journey. And I don't want to minimize that, but this seems really hokey pokey to me. And there's a whole podcast about it that's incredibly popular. So popular they've paywalled it. So now you've got to pay to go listen to most of it. It's crazy, yes. But they have all of these tapes of these kids that are supposed to.
supposedly, you know, saying these things to people who are interpreting what they're saying.
It seems to me like some of this is a little bit of voyeurism in a situation that doesn't deserve voyeurism.
And it seems to me like, yeah, maybe some of this is just parents really wanting to believe that they're communicating with their child.
And maybe, maybe, just to throw it out there, there's a very small percentage of this.
Sure.
That could be true.
Absolutely.
It's a sense.
It's a feeling.
It's hard to prove it's not.
It's hard to prove Teresa Caputo's not psychic.
It's hard to prove that, you know, all these things.
And that in the, like, our mind abhors a vacuum.
Yes.
So we pour a bunch of stuff in the middle believing it because we want to believe it
and because we don't want the absence of information.
That's something that just kills us.
We are little creatures who are just so fucking nosy and curious.
We can't get over it.
If someone is not talking to us and we need them to say something to us, we will make it up on our own.
Plus, I will say this.
I don't know what intuition is.
It's the indescribable feeling that something is or isn't, right?
That is intuition.
Something's going to happen.
Something's going on.
This person is not being truthful with me.
Don't feel good about this.
Don't want to walk into this hotel.
Right.
That has got to be some level of psychic ability, right?
I mean, there's no other way to describe it.
Intuition is sensing an energy that is either off or.
or on or more or less or whatever it is.
Energy also, something we can't prove, you know, like the feeling, right?
Yes, yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm not throwing every, I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, no terrible
pun intended.
I'm not throwing the entire baby out with the bathwater on this one.
It just felt a little alien light language to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we don't need another alien light language girl.
We get enough of that.
We really don't.
I haven't seen her in months.
I don't know what happened to her.
Now there's this star child.
Have you seen this one?
Oh, gosh.
Bond with the huge...
I'll see if I can find her on the break,
but she's got the huge dreads
and she sings the same fucking song
on every single reel that she created.
You know, I am a star child.
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
Big boobs flapping everywhere.
Like, it's just so...
It's so for views.
You know, she's talking about how she doesn't need a man.
I love myself.
You got to love yourself.
And then she puts out real after real after real
of her just, you know, panning for the camera,
doing it all for the camera.
If you really didn't need the attention, if you really were comfortable in yourself, you wouldn't be pining for every view that is out there.
Now, I will say this.
Like, you know, okay, maybe she's totally comfortable with herself.
Maybe that is the truth.
If you take all of the cameras away and at night, when you lay down and you're talking to the scene later.
No insecurities at all.
But I find it really hard to believe.
It seems like at this point, first of all, do another song.
Please get another song.
This girl is so famous, by the way.
She's like, she's selling out, like, small clubs to go hear her sing one fucking song.
Admittedly jealous, so she makes her, yeah, living this way.
Admittedly jealous. Not even going to pretend. Not admittedly jealous. I couldn't sell out a small club if I paid for the tickets myself. I mean, but it's just one of those things where it just irritates the fucking shit out of me that these people, that some folks who have little to know life experience are out there teaching the rest of us about life.
what I'm saying. But that's okay. You know, that's only something you can learn with time,
because when I was that age, I thought I knew it all, too. So I guess I'll give her a little bit of
grace on this one. How old is she? I thought these star children were a couple generations ago.
You know, it was like the star children, then the indigo children. Yeah, these are like,
no, these star children are in their early 20s. Okay. Yeah, they're young. They're babies.
I mean, not baby babies, babies, but, you know, they're...
My baby's age. Yeah, your baby's age. There you go. All right, let's take a break. I'll see if I can
finder, and then I want to let you listen to a reel that is super fascinating and a little scary.
We'll be back.
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Here she is. Shannon Blake, you know, obviously attractive young lady, right?
Yeah, very cute.
Naked in most of the pictures.
Of course, that's how you get the likes.
That's how you get the views.
I mean, there's one, I mean, listen, and I don't care, be naked.
Be naked.
I like nudity.
Cool.
Sure.
Yeah, but I mean, there's a picture of just her naked ass.
Yeah, it's just her butt cheeks.
She got these huge crazy dreads.
Green furry stockings.
Here she's kissing a tree.
Let's see what she's saying in this one.
Is she baby talking a leaf?
She's baby talking.
She's dog talking a leaf.
Oh, here's her song.
Drinking ayahuasca with the shaman stew.
Is she singing?
Yeah, apparently she is.
I don't know that she really is, but apparently she is.
And I will say that.
I just managed to physically disconnect my microphone.
How did I do that?
I don't even know how I did that.
I will say this.
If you have done ayahuasca with shamans, if you have done that, and I have,
I just don't think you would be talking about it in this way.
if it was a super meaningful experience.
It's not a pop music.
We hear butt cheeks hanging out.
No, it's not.
No, it's not a butt cheek kind of situation.
It's a disembodiment is what it is.
And I've talked about it a lot, and I've talked about it on this show.
So I don't want to be a hypocrite here and say that, you know,
but I'm not doing that for views.
I'm just sharing my, I mean, maybe.
And luckily, you kept your butt cheeks to yourself.
I don't know that I did, but I don't think anybody would have noticed had I.
Everyone else was doing it, too, for the shaman.
and the paramedics in the room.
So, you know, no knock on Shannon.
I mean, I get it.
She's doing her thing and she's making her money.
And it's a different world than it was 20 years ago when I was into my own kind of hallucinogenic healing thing, right?
So it's 20 years ago and I didn't have an opportunity to jump on Instagram and tell everybody about my experience.
No, we couldn't get ketamine from our Instagram accounts.
We couldn't, you know, like that was just a different world.
It wasn't being used for therapy.
No, that's true. You're right. It wasn't being used for therapy. It wasn't being used for widespread recreational healing and fucking burning man or, you know, soul tribe or whatever, wherever you're at. The reality is it's so accessible now. Also, when I did it, you got an invitation. I got an invitation and I had to show up to a meeting two weeks ahead of time to prepare so that the people who had done this before.
the people who were in the know could pass down some information that they felt would be helpful to my experience
and to caution against taking this lightly because holy shit it's going to put your dick directly in the dirt and you should know that and you're going to die you're going to die a thousand deaths and i can't explain to you how that's going to happen
but be ready be mentally prepared for not being mentally prepared for what's going to happen right come rested and hydrated and the rest you know that's it
we'll have paramedics on board and if something happens we'll do our best and you know it's like being invited to the best party in the world but you may die at that party it's possibly you're gonna die at that party and that's or at least think you did yeah or you're yeah you're yeah you're definitely gonna die but will you still be breathing when it's all over i don't know we'll have some paramedics maybe they can help you but you know it's just it seems like there's a very flip there's all this stuff is very flip now like yeah oh yeah we're doing i'm oscar with this retreat this week and then you know
It's a lot of some decorum and the respect factor.
I went to the Hamptons and we had an ayahuasca tea party.
We listened to, you know, we listened to Maroon Five.
And, yeah, the parties about it are like, you sort of kept it quiet.
Like, hey, I'm having a party.
Come over.
Bring some favors.
I got invited to a yurt in someone's backyard to drink mushroom tea.
You know, it was like on the invitation, on the Evite.
Yes.
It's wild.
It's weird.
Yeah.
It's wild.
Sound bath mushroom tea party.
Like, I'm in.
Yeah.
Listen, I got an invite recently.
I went.
I did it, you know?
But I knew who was there, and I knew the seriousness upon which it would be taken, and it was.
Yeah, the ceremony.
Yeah.
There was a shaman there who was an actual native who was an actual shaman, who lived it, breathed it, did it.
You know, she was a Mayan priestess.
That's what she did.
Not, that's not she, like.
It's who she is and what she does.
Correct.
She didn't, what do they call that?
When you appropriate, she didn't appropriate someone else's culture and then make it into what they wanted to make it into for fast, casual consumption on Instagram.
This is what she was, right?
And as was the shaman that I did ayahuasca with.
It was, this is very much the real deal.
Like this guy was from the Amazon.
I don't think he'd ever seen a real television before.
I mean, honestly, the guy was like completely.
a fish out of water when he came here, as was I, once I did.
And because I am essentially appropriating his culture by taking his medicine, but at least
he's blessing me with it, right?
At least I'm not out there, you know, buying it on the Silk Road, too.
And I'm not saying you can't have meaningful experiences doing that also.
I'm not trying to, like, shit on everybody who hasn't done it exactly the same way I have.
What I am cautioning against is the...
The fact, let me repeat that because I think that's a cool phrase.
The fast casual consumption of these types of medicines, you know, feels a little bit dangerous to me.
I don't know.
Can be dangerous.
Let's put it out.
Sure.
Okay.
Let me let you listen to a real that I found.
I don't know if this is real or not.
So I want to caution against us, you know, going straight into it and believing that any of this is for real.
It sounds like rage bait to me, but so let's be careful.
Okay.
Then we don't make the assumption right off the bat.
I just want to say that.
Let's see.
Where is the link that I put?
Here it is.
I even asked Chad if this was real.
And they said probably not.
They said probably not.
Can AI detect AI?
Yeah, AI can detect.
I think it can.
I asked V if we could have a chat with all of our other.
AI friends.
Oh, yeah?
Should we have the two of them talking together?
He said that they can talk to each other, yeah.
That might not be a bad idea, actually.
Okay, here we go.
Ready?
Okay, hold on.
Let me see if I can.
Today's the day that I get to drop my daughter off for the rest of her life.
I can't really say that I feel sad about it.
I really don't care.
I don't trust to get my kid.
I put her up for adoption.
She's seven years old.
Sorry, I just went up.
She's going to school, I'm about to drop her out to her last day of school.
I have to take her to, and then the adoptees are picking off from the school pickup line.
And yeah, I'm a free woman after that.
I'm selling my house. I'm buying an RV.
I'm about to travel the world.
I'm pretty excited.
I have been, like, waiting for this moment my entire life ever since I had her, and I was being guilty and not.
and not giving her up just because, like, I felt like as a mom, you're not supposed to give your kid up.
But then I had a good talk with, like, my boyfriend, and he said that it doesn't matter what other people think.
It's what you want, and I don't want a kid.
So that is a crazy reel that has been going around.
It's probably the second time I've seen it.
I saw it again this morning.
Where the young lady wakes up, and she explains, it says, on the real, like it's written in text,
that today is the day I give up my daughter for adoption, right? And she explains that the daughter
is seven years old. She's dropping, in case you didn't, the case it was a little, the music was
very loud. She's dropping her daughter off and then she... At school and will not be the one
picking her up. No, she will not be the one picking her up. Somebody else's, the adoptees are going to
pick her up. Now, the reason why I first call bullshit on this is because that's not how the adoption
process works. You don't drop them off at school and then the new parents pick you off from
school that is facilitated usually in some legal or authoritative way. There's a handoff of some
nature. And there are usually facilitators involved in that, whether that be CPS or the foster care
program. And a child advocate at the very least. Even private adoptions are handled in a different
way. So that's where I was kind of like, hey, I'm not sure this is real, but there are so many
reactions, thousands of thousands of comments. And I wondered, but my second reaction to this
was good for that young lady, if it is true.
Because if that's her, that little girl,
because that's her fucking mom.
Yep.
And her mom is taking, you know,
therapeutic advice from some shithead boyfriend that she's got about, you know,
go live your best life.
That is insanity.
That lady does not need to be a parent.
I know.
I say it all the time.
If you don't know,
if you're unsure if you want kids,
you don't want kids.
That's it.
Period.
I think there's two things that I think are important that we should stake as we
move into the future here. Number one, some guy on the internet had this idea. I think it's wonderful.
At the age of 13 years old, every male in this country has to go register their DNA.
I know. I've been saying this for a long time, but not register your DNA. That's better than mine.
I said vasectomy when they're born, because it's reversible.
It is, it can be. And then once you prove income and worthiness and dedicate, like, whatever you
need to prove to become a parent, at least make it as difficult as it is.
to get a driver's license.
That's it.
This kid had the idea that at 13,
at the age of sexual maturity,
every man, boy has to go in,
they have to give a sample of their DNA.
Should they impregnate somebody,
then they are legally responsible
for 50% of the bills,
50% of the housing,
50% of the co-parenting,
and they have mandatory parenting classes.
You sign off on garnishments
if you're not making your payments.
That's it.
That's that mandatory parenting class.
It's brilliant.
Yes.
And then after a certain period,
at a time of not paying than the woman or whoever is taking care of the child gets that money
plus interest. And after a certain amount of that, then there's mandatory work. You have to go to the
military. You have to do whatever. This kid had a whole idea. And it was really fucking smart.
Because, you know, parenting, I've said this so many times, I'd really tell I'm blue in the face,
along the lines of what you're saying. You need a license to go pull a fish out of the fucking river.
To eat. Yes. You got to take a class to drive a fucking moped. You have to learn how to skydive. Something that doesn't cause any responsibility, it could kill you, right? It takes away life, not gives it. But any fucking moron can be apparent. Any one. Any fucking moron can be apparent. And there are so many bad ones out there. There are a lot of good ones, a lot of good ones. But this is the hardest thing I have ever done in my life.
I heard a lady once. I don't know if she told me or I overheard it. I can't remember where I heard
this in context because I'm a man and that's just the way my brain works. But the, like I'm
paraphrasing what she said. I did most of my growing up raising my children. Right? I did most of
my growing up. I grew up with my kids. That's for sure. For sure, right? I'm growing up at my
extended age. I'm growing up with my kids. That's it. I'm raising children and I'm knocking my head
against the wall at every corner trying to figure out how to feed them and clothe them
and make sure that they're okay emotionally and physically and all the least amount of damage
that's it do the do no harm right steal no joy do no harm that's it and i'm not sure i always get
it right i'm not sure i ever get it i promise you don't i promise me i don't either but the reality
is that if this is true and i don't think it is i really think that this is not this real is
not actually a thing. I think this is rage. I think it echoes a lot of what might be happening in our
collective consciousness, though. People don't know the true commitment. And, you know, maybe you got
pregnant and you're like, okay, well, I don't believe in abortion, or maybe I'll give this a shot,
or I want this kid. It doesn't mean your feelings don't change. Yeah. And if she, for some reason,
or other people are talking about not having a connection with their child and wishing they could do it over,
I mean, we've seen it in the, I mean, there's Reddit, there's Reddit threads and boards about, you know, like I have kids and now I don't want them anymore.
I can only imagine.
So I think it, it may be fake, but I don't, I think it probably echoes.
A sentiment that is very real.
Yeah.
There is a law in the United States of America that you can drop a baby off, anybody, a kid.
Any, just any child.
At defects, yeah.
At defects, at a fire station or at a hospital, at a police station, no consequences, no questions asked.
That's it.
And there have been famous cases of that happen.
I don't think it happens very often.
I used to work with Acosta, which is a child-appointed special advocate here in Georgia.
And, yeah, one of the kids that I worked with, his mom did that.
13 years old.
13 years old.
Dropped him off of defects and went to Chicago.
It's kind of sad.
This is a Halloween episode of the commercial right.
All the horrors of the world coming out, yeah.
It happens, but being excited about it on social media is a totally different story.
I totally agree with you, why you would ever put that story out there. And I don't know who that young girl is. And the real is reposted and there's no identifying information. I did as much digging as I possibly could to see if I could get to the root of who did this, why they did this. But the fact that you put it on social media is just that is emblematic of what is going on.
I hope this lady doesn't actually have a kid. She probably doesn't. There was one lady, there's one lady out there who does simply rage bait. She
takes real stories from Reddit or Twitter or whatever, she takes real stories, and then she acts
them out on the camera as if it's her doing it, right? And it's just rage bait. It's all the
worst possible things that humans have thought or done or whatever. And her reels go viral all
the time. She got me the first time. I forget what it was. It was something about a child. And I was
like, you motherfucker. And then I'm like, that cannot be true. And then it wasn't true. I mean,
it wasn't true for her. There was somebody who did it. But she has this whole thing.
He's like, you know, for entertainment purposes only, reenacting real people.
There's no bits of truth and all this madness.
There is always a bit of truth and all the bullshit.
All right, we'll be back.
We'll see what other horrible things we can talk about.
Keeping it light around here today.
Hey, I like the conversation.
I'm having fun with it.
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All right, so let's keep the macabre going.
Two recent theme park deaths have made the news.
Have you heard about this?
I have not. Share.
There was the one guy.
Okay, well, let's go to chat so that I don't misspeak here.
How's that?
Here in the U.S.
Here in the U.S.
Okay.
And she'll give us the information.
Can you tell me about the recent death at the Universal theme park in Florida?
So just to fill you in, there was indeed a tragic incident recently.
A 32-year-old man named Kevin Rodriguez of our...
Zavala passed away after riding the Stardust Race's roller coaster.
A universe was epic universe.
They did look into it, and Universal said the rider was functioning as it should,
but the family and their lawyer are raising concerns about reopening it without an independent inspection.
Okay, so here's what happened.
Kevin Zavala, the man who died after riding the roller coaster as sued Universal.
Their family, his family has sued Universal.
They believe that Universal was criminally negligent and allowing Kevin to ride the
the ride. Kevin was not, he was disabled. He was used a wheelchair to get around. He went on a roller
coaster that's very intense. It's an intense roller coaster by the admission of the park and everybody
else who's ever ridden it. It's a very like G-heavy thrash-you-around kind of ride. When
Kevin left, he was put in, he was helped into the ride vehicle. He was strapped in. When
Kevin left, he was fine. He was awake. He was alert. When he came back, he was blood. He was
Bloody. There was blood all over the ride. There was blood all over people. Apparently, this is a very gory scene. And he died from blunt forced trauma to the head. Whoa. Yeah. So people initially were saying that Kevin may have been hit by something on the ride. Like he hit a part of the ride of whatever. But what came to light was that Kevin was not able to use parts of his body in the first place. And that Kevin maybe shouldn't have been on the ride. He couldn't like hold his neck steady to prevent the banging on.
around or whatever. What some people are speculating is that Kevin had some kind of medical
incident on the ride, became limp, and then because of his disabilities, was unable to even
keep himself in a position, and then got thrashed around hitting his head on the restraints or
the front of the ride or, you know, the front of the car or whatever. Terrible, terrible
situation. That's awful. For Kevin. And for everyone on the ride with him. For everyone on the ride
and for the employees that had to deal with it, and apparently the family is saying that the
employees didn't deal with it appropriately when you came back what do you how do you deal with how is
there a protocol for that this is this reminds me uh greatly of the young man here at six flags over
georgia who was decapitated yep by someone's feet it was the batman ride because your legs hang
down batman ride because the legs came down it's the reason i don't write it anymore i have a hard time
going on that ride too it just reminds me of something so terrible because it was very it's very
descriptive and if that kind of thing bothers you, I'm going to share what happened so you can
turn it on. Fast forward a minute and a half. Kids lost two, one of the kids, he was with his friend,
they lost the hat on the ride. Ball cap, yeah. And they decided, they saw it. They decided to
jump the fence to get it. And when they jumped the fence to get it, the Batman ride has a
circular. It's one of those hanging rides. So your feet had dangled down and you sit on the seat.
Yeah. And it swoops upside down. And then it comes back around,
toward the ground. The hat was right there. They thought the vehicles were out of the way. The ride
came through and the young man. Yeah. The girl kicked the head off essentially is what happened.
And the girl had major damage to her legs and he lost his head. His head came clean off his body
and that was that. There were many witnesses to this and it was a terrible, terrible situation.
But it reminded me of this. The Batman ride is still on and functioning to this day. It was off for a
couple of months. They did the major investigation. The family sued six flags. I think it went
away. Six flags probably. It was clearly marked on the fence to not cross, yeah, under any
circumstances. I mean, come on, guys. Like, I'm not blaming the victim here. He was a young kid.
Yeah. He, you know, when you're young. But the ride didn't malfunction. No. It wasn't Six Flags
negligence. He just, he jumped the fence. He wanted his hat. He wanted his hat. He died over a
hat. I mean, the terrible, terrible.
Awful. I just don't think I'd be able to sleep at night if that was my kid ever again.
I mean, that's just... Or the girl. I mean, if you kick someone's head, clean off, clean off.
That's some therapy for sure. Yeah. Well, I think she had so much damage to her leg. I believe that one of them was amputated.
I wouldn't doubt it. Yeah. That's the young lady. I mean, I think they both settled with six flags,
but that's the young lady, you know, she's got to live with that for the rest of her life.
and you know this is terrible for kevin this is a terrible tragedy for him but it also reminds me that
you know there is um there are rules and guidance around riding these rides they're not all
the safest things in the world things do go wrong on these rides things can't happen i listen
i have read uh this is kind of macabre but i have read about all of the medical major
medical accidents that have happened on Disney rides. There's been about 300 throughout the years.
You know, this, that, the other thing, people getting stuck in, you know, ride vehicles, people,
you know, getting their leg caught in between a track and a thing. You know, there was a monorail
accident where a monorail hit another monorail, and one of the drivers died. That's terrifying.
Yeah, the driver died. They crashed each other when they were trying to pull him into the service
stations. They crashed at like, you know, 20 miles per hour. And there was really nothing to protect
the guy. He was just standing in this glass box, essentially. So all of these things just
but there's also for the personal responsibility is that if you don't think you can ride a ride,
don't ride the ride. I don't get on them anymore. I mean, truly, I had a friend when I was in
middle school got thrown from one of those teacup style rides at the carnival. Oh, really?
So friends with them today. He's actually, you called me while we were here. Yeah, he got thrown
from it, you know, like stunted his growth is. Oh, my God. I don't get on any of those, you know?
Yeah. I had the seatbelt bar come up on.
on the screen machine on me when I was a teenager at Six Flags. Like, it is terrifying. Yes. And the people
operating these machines, I mean, and they are big machines. That's what they are. Complex big machines.
16, 17 year old kids pushing buttons, you know, and to hold them accountable in any way seems crazy.
You can't even use a meat slicer at Publix until you're 18. Yeah, you can't serve a margarita at Chili's until you're 18 years old.
Back to his licensure for like ridiculous. Yeah, it's insane. I agree with you 100%. I think the place
like Disney and Universal or have better trained staff.
Yes, you can make a career out of that.
At Six Flags, those are summer workers.
Summer workers.
That's what they do.
They're summer workers making $10.25.
They get a two-week training course and then they're supposed to...
Free roller coaster rides.
Free rollercoaster rides and soft drinks.
And they're supposed to operate these incredibly complex machines.
Of course, there are adults around.
Feats of engineering, they are.
They really are.
And, you know, listen, in the order of trust,
as far as roller coasters, theme parks, and amusement parks are concerned.
Disney World and Universal, maybe up there, right?
Six Flags, or like a Bush Gardens, second, a six flags, third, the state fair fourth,
and any local carnival, parking lot carnival, zero.
I just won't do it anymore.
No way.
I've seen too many videos now where I'm like, holy shit.
And I also know that there's almost zero oversight over any of them.
What about, I got thrown up on the, not the grass.
Ravitron, but the one that's just a loopy coaster that just goes on a circle and then it slings you
backwards.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Person threw up.
Oh, shh.
Ah.
Yeah.
I was waiting in line to take the kids on because I'm like, this one's okay, right?
Yeah.
No, thank you.
I looked at the girls.
I was like, I'm so sorry.
Listen, I love roller coasters.
Let's go get fried Oreos instead.
I have always loved roller coasters.
Yeah, they're so fun.
I love it all.
It takes me on all of them.
I want to go on all of them.
I love, and now I'm taking my kids on them.
I love them.
but I want to do that in a really well...
Disney Universal.
Yeah, Disney Universal.
Bush Gardens.
Bush Gardens.
Maybe Kings Dominion.
Maybe King's Dominion.
Those are the things that are open year round
where they're billion dollar industries,
where they have...
And they're known globally.
Yeah, they have six or seven guys.
Like, I took the backstage tour, Astrid and I did,
of Disney World.
We went on like the VIP backstage tour one time.
And we went on that tour and they took us
into one of the rides.
It wasn't even the ride.
It was like the Hall of Presidents.
We went in there and saw how it all worked.
There were 12 dudes that were sitting around, working on that ride on a regular day when it was working.
There was 12 dudes.
Engineer.
Yeah, Imagineers, engineers, whatever, they were underneath it, working on it, plugging stuff in, oiling this up, doing that.
We're there for, I don't know, 45 minutes watching all of these guys do what they do just to make sure that it operate.
And these guys all look like competent adult people that were doing their job, right?
They were... Vetted by Disney. There for a long time, understood the ride, probably knew it like the back of their hand. Something went wrong. They could fix it in a heartbeat with a piece of gum and some shoe leather, right? That's the way that they were. Kids at a pimple-faced, you know, 15-year-old that...
Running the mall parking lot, carnival.
Yeah, running the mall parking lot zipper.
Not trusting them with mine or my kids life. That's right. I mean, sometimes I go to those carnivals and I see they're literally using a clothes pin to hold you in. And I'm like, that can't possibly be safe.
Yeah, that carabiner's not going to hold.
No, it's not. No way. But even, you know, stuff does happen at Disney, too. Like, Disney just had an incident where someone died on their haunted mansion ride.
What? What? What is a very slow-moving ride? I don't see. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't see how anything could have. One of my favorite rides.
It's a wonderful ride. Anybody who's ever been on it knows that it's a sentimental favorite.
It's even, it holds up today. It still seems like a feat of engineering that they can make those ghosts look real.
It's so cool. It's so cool. Even though I know how it's done, I still don't understand it.
Even though I know how it's done, I still don't understand how those ghosts appear like they do.
It's really quite crazy.
But someone passed away.
I think in this situation, it was probably a major medical incident, like having a heart attack or something like that.
But still, I mean, these things happen all the time.
It's just, you know, there's a certain amount of risk that you assume with anything.
You walk into a nailed salon, you get an infection that kills you.
It's just the way that it is.
I feel really bad for this guy, Kevin.
It's made a lot of news.
There's a lot of people, especially theme park junkies that are talking about there.
and what happened and how did he get all this trauma to his head and all this other stuff?
Do you think it's going to change some of the protocols going forward?
No, I don't.
Well, protocols possibly.
Possibly they will discuss with the employees how you handle something like this.
Should someone, should the train pull into the station with a bloody body, you know, how do you handle it?
But there's just certain things you just can never prepare for.
Right.
Like, how do you prepare for a decalibular?
epitated kid below the Batman ride. I know. That room really messed me up for a while.
Oh, it messed everybody in Georgia. Yeah, it was a big deal. They talked about it 24-7 for a long time,
and it was a really big deal. How do you psychologically repair yourself from that? How do you
prepare for that? And then how do you react to that? When a girl comes back with half her leg
missing and there's a head, you know, rolling around on the grass, like, how do you deal with that?
I don't know. And I don't want to be flip about this poor kid. It was terrible thing to happen. The whole thing was a tragedy.
Absolutely. But how do you deal with it? How do you deal with the minutia of that? I don't really know. So I wasn't there. I don't know. But apparently the park security and the people who were working the ride, they stayed with Kevin and tried their best to help him. But I think he was already dead by the time he pulled into the station.
So are they saying that they should have told Kevin he couldn't ride the ride? I'm wondering if Kevin should have been riding the ride. Like if it says if you have a heart problem, if you have a back problem, if you have whatever. And that's on you. That's on you. That's.
That's your responsibility.
And I've seen pictures of Kevin in his wheelchair at the theme parks being excited about all this.
So Kevin is obviously not a novice to theme parks.
He had done this before.
But if you have to be transferred into a vehicle, you can't do that on your own power,
should you be riding a ride that could potentially cause a lot of G-forces to move your body in a way that you can't control?
Right.
Right.
So, you know, as an able-bodied person, I can tighten myself.
up if I know a turns come. You have to on some of those, right? The Ninja, one of my favorite
coasters here at Six Flags. I mean, if you don't hold your head right, you're going to get a
migraine. You're going to hit your head. He will bang around so bad because it's just a little
rickety, you know, like... It's a concussion factory. Yes, you have to be able to keep your neck
stiff or you're going to pay for it. Yeah, you really do. And so, you know, if Kevin gets on a ride like
that, I'm not, I'm not blaming the victim, right? I'm sure no, no one expected. I'm sure Kevin had
done this a hundred times and Kevin knew his own limitations.
You know, he loved it enough to he took the risk.
He took the risk and that sometimes you're on the losing end of that, right?
That sucks for everybody involved in all the employees and Kevin's family.
So I want to say that I am, I'm heartbroken for his own family to go to a fun day at Universal
and then end up with this happening is literally like the worst of the worst.
However, all of that said, should Kevin have been riding those, and should there be protocol around people who are not able-bodied in certain ways being restricted from certain motorcoasters?
It's kind of hard because, like, you read those signs, right?
I'm pregnant.
You might not know that.
I'm going to get on the ride, even, you know, despite the warnings.
Yeah.
Same with a heart condition.
Nobody can detect that by looking at someone with a heart condition.
Epilepsy, another one that, you know, you just.
Sure.
if I'm loading you into the ride as the park worker, I'm not going to know you have those conditions. Of course not. Of course not. You've got to police yourself a little bit on this. Like Astrid and I went to Disney World and she was pregnant with our first. And I will tell you what, cautious would be an understatement for how Astrid and I were about getting on any of those rides. It was like the haunted mansion was about as exciting as it got. Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Spaceship Earth. I had to do all the roller coasters by myself as it should have been because she was pregnant.
And she, you know, to jostle around like that when you're pregnant is an obvious and no risk.
Yes.
And we were very cautious about that.
We had a great time, but it's just really walking around looking at the pretty things.
It wasn't like we didn't, that wasn't the time to go on all the big roller coasters and have a blast.
So, you know, best wishes to Kevin's family, I hope.
Yeah, tragic.
I hope you get some kind of conclusion out of this that makes it feel a little bit better, though.
I don't ever think you get over anything like that.
He was with his girlfriend, too.
Man, what a terrible, terrible thing to have.
happen. I wouldn't want to go to Disney
and end up dead. Hopefully it was like a bucket
list item for him and he was really just
full of joy. I just said I wouldn't want to go to Disney
and end up dead, but maybe that is where I'd want to die.
Yeah, you just want to fall of joy. Yeah, maybe that's
just it. Magic and wonder. All
expectation and excitement. Family,
having a great time. That's it.
And then all of a sudden... It's not the worst thing in the world.
Yeah, you just go. You just don't know.
And hopefully that's how Kevin went. And then
all those people on the coaster. Oh, that's
that's the real.
There's the lawsuit, right?
I mean, that's so awesome.
Yeah.
Universal is going to be cutting some checks.
I'm sure they want this to go away.
This was like during Halloween horror nights.
This is like two weeks ago, I think this happened.
Yeah.
Nothing will ever top, however.
Any theme park horror story will never top the kid who got taken away by the alligator at Disney World.
That is a night.
No, at the Grand Floridian Hotel.
He was on the beach.
Yeah.
And then snap.
He was playing by the water.
Yeah.
And the father jumped in and tried to save the baby and wrestled the alligator.
Unbelievable.
They only had one press conference with ABC News, conveniently owned by Disney, and I'll never forget it.
It was like a three-minute.
It had to go away.
It was like a three-minute conversation with Diane Sawyer or something, and it was just like, it was unfortunate.
Like, you could tell the lawyers were standing behind that.
You can't say that.
You can't say that.
We make your statements.
Here's the $25 million check.
Yes.
You know, hey, listen, that's the way it works, you know?
Life is a risk.
Yeah, life is a risk.
But I don't care how much money they got paid.
Give me my baby back.
Give me my baby back.
That's right.
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