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Episode Date: March 18, 2026

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On this episode of the commercial break Mick Jagger was the nicest nicest guy you could have imagined I mean he really was generous to a fault

Nice as he could be Talking to everybody Anybody that wanted to have a conversation He stood for a minute Giving out gift cards to mix Giving out gift cards to mix To Chrissy's version of Mix which is Mick Jagger's

17 locations throughout the Atlanta area. It's franchise. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Katz and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show. Chris and Joy Holtley. Best to you, Chris. Best to you, Brian. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for joining us. The other day, we were talking about Mix, which you mistakenly had thought that it was Mick Jagger's restaurant.

It was not Mick Jagger's restaurant, but I can kind of see how you might have thought that. Got it all twingle twangled in your head. Though I did find a notable mention about Mick Jagger here in Atlanta, and that Mick spent quite a bit of time here in Atlanta. He lived here for a period of time. He filmed a movie here. I can't remember the name of the movie,

but it was like some sci-fi futuristic sci-fi movie. What was that called a Night Run? Something like that. Anyway, he's the star of the movie. It's terrible. I've seen it, but it's filmed here. in Atlanta. So for a period of time, Mick Jagger and Atlanta were kind of a thing. Co-mingling. We were co-mingling. But I got to thinking about Mix and that restaurant, and I got to

looking back at pictures about that restaurant. And what I realized after we got done recording that episode was not only do I know Mix, not only had I been to Mix, not only did I remember the whole mixed situation, but I went there for homecoming. Yes, it was like one of those kind of places. Yes. You know, for years, you know, you get a little older, a little longer in the tooth, and memories sometimes become like cartoons. They're little snapshots. You remember certain things, but it's not crystal clear. Everything is not crystal clear. You'll learn this as you get older kids. It's not all crystal clear funds, chits, and giggles. It's almost like a dreamlike thing that you're just remembering. And I remember. Especially like high school. Oh, God, high school. That's like, that seems 10 lifetimes away. 10 lifetimes ago. But I remember calling the limousine company. Yeah.

I remember picking up the white pages, which the white pages kids was an actual phone book where they had phone numbers listed for businesses and people. Well, excuse me, the yellow pages was for the businesses. The white pages was for the people. So I picked up the yellow pages. And I looked up limousine. And I remember calling the limousines. I was in charge. I remember calling the limos, arranging the limousine, and then getting the limousine to pick us up.

And me and the girl that I took to. homecoming, Brooke, I'm still friendly with to this day, beautiful young lady. We went to where? Mix. That's where we went. I knew I remembered it. To mix. Not only did we go to mix for homecoming, but we went to mix for a Sadie Hawkins dance when in my eighth grade year. So we went twice to mix for that kind of event. And I am sure, looking back on it now, that we drove the wait staff absolutely bananas.

For the Sadie Hawkins dance, I remember those like 30 of us were there. and we all had our, you know, $20 in our pockets and we're making change. Oh, yeah. I know. It's separate checks. God bless. The waiter or waitress has probably long since left this earth because I'm that old. But at this point, now maybe they're in their 60s or 70s. I don't know.

Who knows? But that was like now I remember Mix. It was that type of place. It was like a... It was like an elevated. An elevated casual is what it was. Elevated casual. But it was a thing here in Atlanta.

you would go to Mix sometimes for special occasions. The teenagers loved to go there. It was like a place to go for prom, a homecoming, a dance. And it was quite the place. It was quite the coming to going. I'm glad to come back to you now. So we were talking about this place mix, and then we were talking about Mick Jagger,

potentially owning Mix, which was not true. He did not own Mix. But I understand. Maybe that was my brain remembering things and the lore. Yeah, that's it. Remember how I told you that, He's become like cartoons, all swishy-swashy mixed up in your head. Yeah, like Mick Jagger own Mix.

Yeah. Mick did not own Mix because he probably has a financial advisor that advises him never to own a restaurant. Exactly. Unless you just want a place to drink and eat. You want a really expensive kitchen, own a restaurant. That's what they'll tell you. So I'm Googling and I'm looking at pictures of Mix and it's all coming back to me. It's all coming back.

It's coming back to me now. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la i'm i'm crying in the studio listening to selene diana anyway is tears streaming down my face with my headset on in my moo moo at night your slippers blue barking at me for treats dumb dog uh i'm back to the i'm back to dumb dog because i'm like well by the way update on blue's health i don't think the heart issue is anything to be immediately concerned about So thank you for those. She seems to be acting just fine. She seems to be acting just fine. Not fine, but normal.

Yeah, normal. Not okay, but normal, which is absolutely crazy. So I'm Googling and I'm looking back in a Mick Jagger, Mix, Mick Jagger, Atlanta, Mick Jagger, and bam, up comes the story. And this story I was lit loosely involved with. And here's the story. I'll tell it real quick. As we were talking about, as we ever interacted with celebrities here in Atlanta. I worked for a company, a SEO company.

You two can get your SEOs. Don't you want to rank highly on the Googles? Right, first page of Google. It's going to change your life. And actually, at that time, being on the first page of Google would change your life. That's back in the, you know, GoGo Google days. I worked for this company that did SEO and like high-priced website design, you know, paying like $150,000 for a really nice website, which is insane to think about now. But, I mean, there are people who pay under $50,000 for a website, but there are people who have no idea how to build a website.

They spend too much money. So here I am selling my SEOs and my pay-per-clicks in this old building in downtown Atlanta, across the street from what used to be the Fed Reserve building. And at that time was just like an old office building, empty office building. And imagine this old row of like this five-story building. And it's just an old building that has. Some of it has been renovated for, like, weird office space. We, like, literally had an old elevator shaft in the middle of our office. And if you walked in the wrong place, you would fall three stories.

It was crazy. And they were charging rent for this. It was, like, the windows were from 1922, so you couldn't see anything out of, yeah, no insulation, freezing cold. Just thin, thin glass. Yeah. But we were in the hip, hip, hip, you know, hip hip, Atlanta. Vintage. Right next door.

of the old Omni, Phipps Arena, Phillips Arena, which is like a wonderful place to be in this time. This is probably 2006 or 2007. And in this same row, on this same building in this row of like, you know, stuff that's up and down this street across from this very large, what used to be Federal Reserve, there is an old hotel that I think was called the Magic Hotel or something along those. lines and it still got its old promenade like the board where imagine you go to a movie theater an old movie theater and it says now showing the imperial or something the imperial yes yes maybe that was what it was it was a hotel at one time a very like famous hotel where i don't know i don't know the go go girls would go you know what i'm saying that kind of hotel but it was infamous among some people and famous and this big promenade that said imperial and it had this board where you could put letters and stuff like that.

It was old. It was abandoned. It was right next door to the entrance to where we had our office. And then there was like a shoe store, an old, a cafe where they made terrible food. But it was the only place within two miles where you could get food. That's all you could do. So cafe, then us, then the imperial, then a shoe store, like an old man's shoe store. A true cobbler.

And then at the end of the street was like a hair place or something like, like a bar. harbor or something like that. You'd have to park about a block and a half away, and then you'd walk. You park, they had like, we had these parking passes. We could go into this particular lot, and then you would walk up the street and go. So one day we get a knock at the door, the office door, landlord. Landlord, sends, puts, it gives us a piece of paper. He says, don't ask, I can't tell you, just read the piece of paper, you'll know. And it says, starting tomorrow through whatever, let's say it's Wednesday, starting tomorrow through Friday, You will have to park in this parking lot.

You will have to have your identification to get on the street. And the building will be locked down unless you absolutely need to go inside or outside. We will be filming. And I'm like, what the fuck is this all about? So we're like, who? Who are you filming? What's going on? What movie?

This is long before Atlanta was like the movie capital. Yeah, now it's every other day. I get that notice. Yeah. I know. It's like, yeah, that's just a common thing now. No, he won't tell us. us. He's not budging. He's not saying a word. He literally drops it off and he's out the door before we have a chance to really grill him. And so then all the tenants of this office, like these other tenants in the office, we're all like getting together. We are Googling because that's what we do. You know, who's in town? What movie is film? He can't find anything else about it. But the only thing that we do find is that at the Georgia Dome, at the time the Georgia Dome, playing that weekend, this is a Rolling Stones.

Is this like all of you smoking a cigarette? What's that? Does this involve you smoking a cigarette? Smoking a cigarette and meeting Keith Richards. Yes, I do it. Okay. You've heard this story. You've heard all my stories. So I'm just sharing her with the audience now.

You have to suffer twice through it, but they only have to suffer. I like it again. So we, but we can't imagine why the Rolling Stones, who haven't made a new album in years, why would they would be filming? Maybe, maybe not. We just assumed it was some movie that we didn't know about. We can't find information. about next morning come in street is closed off two cop cars on one side two cop cars on the other side movie truck big old um trailers like you know like movie star trailers are sitting in the middle

of the street they are putting contraptions on the imperial hotel lighting a boom like a big boom a rain machine at the very top of the imperial hotel where they can spray rain down like all this stuff is going on, construction. But no one will tell us exactly what is going on. No one. And they said, the only thing that we could do is we made friendly. We made nice, nice with one of the crew. And he said, listen, I really cannot say a word because it could cause a lot of trouble. He said, but just know this. You probably want to be into work early tomorrow, like 6 a.m. And I was like 6 a.m. And I was like 6 a m. I go home. I tell my wife at the time, I don't know what's going on. I don't know who's going to be there. But this is a big deal. Like, there's a lot of shit going down.

there already have police officers and security, and there's not even anyone there. Get up at 5 a.m., which at that time was probably, I stayed up until 5 a.m. I went into work at 6 a.m. I parked the car a mile and a half away. I walked up, showed my badge, you know, got in the door. And then about an... We were facing the opposite way, so we could not see any windows to see what was going on up front. Oh, damn.

But one of the other guys that we knew did. So every 15 minutes we would run in and check and see, but we just couldn't see anything going on. A lot of people mulling around, a lot of like construction guys going in and out of the Imperial Hotel. And then we saw it. We saw a black town car pull up. The cops parted ways, pulled up to one of the trailers and out popped what we thought, what we assumed was the back of the head of Mick Jagger. And we were like, no shit, it's Mick Jagger. Holy shit. So I run downstairs because I smoke cigarette. And I had to smoke a cigarette. And even though they told us not to go outside for any reason, how can they really keep us inside? No, they can't. The restaurant is still open down at the one corner, even though the road is blocked off. And the shoe store is still open, even though the road is blocked off. Everyone's still open because we all want a reason to be there while Mick Jagger is there.

So I go downstairs and there's a bunch of people, you know, a bunch of folks from these buildings are kind of mulling around outside, you know, getting excited, staring. You know, we're all on the sidewalk. and up, I'm smoking this cigarette and up comes this very lovely human being walks up and he says, hey man, can I borrow a smoke? And I said, yeah, okay, you know, borrow smoke. He's got these passes that are dangling, but none of them really have to do with the Rolling Stones. But anyway, and so I'm smoking a little uncomfortable. I don't know what to say to the guy. And I'm like, hey, are you with this whole thing? He says, yeah, I am. It's pretty exciting, huh? And I go, oh, yeah, it really is exciting. He goes, but this is the first video I've done. I've been around.

And I said, oh, cool, what do you do? And he said, he said, I'm a guitar tech. And I go, oh, a guitar tech for who? And he goes, a guitar tech for Keith Richards. And I was like, holy shit. Wow. No fucking way. You're a guitar tech. You're the guitar tech for Keith Richards. And he goes, I am. And I go, is he here? Not now, but he's going to be here later. But, you know, I didn't have anything to do. We're here playing. So I just thought I'd come by and check it out. Yeah. Yeah. And he said, you know, I might need to like pretend to tune a guitar later or something. And I go, what are they doing? Filming a video for their new, for their new latest song. I'm like, wow, that's, that's awesome. And he goes, yeah, we're taking over the hotel.

It's like a whole rain thing, an empty building kind of thing. And I was like, that's incredible. He goes, yeah, so we talk for a few minutes. Other people are kind of crowding around us because now he's got the attention of everybody. Right. He's in the know. Exactly. So anyway, so we talk for like five minutes and then he scoots on off.

Now listen to this. So I go down to the cafe. I go to get like a burger or rap or whatever. I'm like, I'm just really excited. I'm just want to walk around the street is what I want to do. I got to make myself look busy, right? You got to have a reason. So I go down there completely empty.

It's just a couple of people from the building. It usually has a lot of people in there because it's really one of the only places to eat around. And the food is terrible, but the people are really nice. You know, and it's like a, it's at that time like $5 for lunch or whatever. And so I said to the old lady behind the counter, I said, that's going to suck you to close for three days. Essentially, you can't get anybody else in here. She goes, oh, no, no, no, no. they paid me good money. They paid me really good money to close my store. She's like, I don't care. And they let me keep on feeding the people who are in here. And she goes, and who knows, maybe one of these guys will walk in and have it. I said, oh, that's great. So I get it. And as I'm walking back out, a the most sharply dressed man I have ever seen in my entire life. We're talking like white linen suit with an ascot and hair and million dollars sunglasses and rings and jewelry and jewelry and

shoes that were shot. I could see my face in is walking in. And he's just like, he opens the door like this. He's like, you know, with the back of his hand. Right. Right. Like a proper gentleman does. Yeah. Swings it open. And I said, oh, excuse me. And he goes, and he goes, darling, does you know if this shoe store at the end here sells shoes or make shoes? What's the shoe store deal? And I go, I don't know. Actually, I've never been to the shoe store. But I'm sure it's. You want to go to get to? I'm sure it's great. Yeah, no, that's not what I said, but I go, I'm sure it's nice. Let's go and check it out. You are you.

And he goes so much time to kill. That's what he said. He goes so much time to kill. I wanted to stay, but I'm leaving out the door. What can I do? Just turn around and sit there and watch this. I look like I'm, I didn't, the guy's famous, but he looks to be famous. Like, I think he must be famous. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. He had the air. He had the air of femininity. Femininity. Famininity. Fameininity.

So I go back out Now I'm smoking another cigarette Now I'm like killing myself Double time with cigarettes Because now I don't want to eat Now I'm like I'm caught up in the action Fat food cigarettes Yeah

Terrible food that I'm not eating 15 cigarettes It's not even 830 in the morning I've got no work done It's zero work My boss is pissed but he understands Right They're also they don't smoke

But they're also like coming up and down the stairs and checking it out. So I'm standing there. Guy comes out, no food in hand, nothing, right? Comes out five, ten minutes later, and he walks into the trailer and he grabs Mick Jagger and the two of them go down to the shoe store. Okay.

I don't know what they do in the shoe store, but now the... They're checking it out. There is a buzz in the air. Everyone is a buzzing about Mick Jagger and this guy flitting and flotting around town. So, hour later, you know, I go upstairs to participate. pretend like I'm working for 15 minutes go back downstairs to smoke them my 15th cigarette of the hour. And old boy is back. Hey,

he's not smoking. He just wants to, he's shooting the shit. Hey man. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Okay. Yeah. I go,

who is that guy that's with Mick? He, like, he looks not, you know, he's really fancily dressed. He goes, oh, that's Mick's boy.

And I go, like boyfriend? He goes, no, no, don't get a mixed up. It's his boy. And I go, oh, okay,

what does that mean? He goes, oh, the shopping, the restaurant. He takes care of the things. He does the things, right? Whatever the things are, he does the things. It's personal assistant. Personal assistant. What do they call them? Like a professional concierre. Like a personal concierre. I had never even heard that this was a thing. A man in waiting.

A man in waiting. That's it. That's the term I'm looking for. A man in waiting. Like a guy, like Prince Charles has one of these, right? They just follow him around and fluff them up. wherever he goes. You know, his hair is a mess. They do his hair. You know, sunglasses are dirty. He cleanses it. Of course.

You have to have the, in waiting. Oh, my God. This was like, my eyes were open now. I wanted all of this. I was like, this is amazing. I want a man in waiting. I want a trailer. I want to rent a hotel for the day to do nothing, you know, have everybody stand

around. It was just like the, being in this was so much excitement. And Mick Jagger is so fucking famous that. gravity bends when he's around. I'm not even the biggest Rolling Stone fan in the world. I love the Rolling Stones, but I'm not the biggest Rolling Stones fan in the world. And there were only maybe 100 of us that were privy to even be on the street when this was going on, like General Public. And everybody was taken with Mick. When he comes back out of the shoe store, he comes over and kindly chats with anybody who had something to say.

It was amazing. We got to say hello. We got to talk. We got to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I've seen that and heard that. He's really friendly. When they just were in town, you know, a couple of years ago, Mick was about town. Yeah. It was like at the Claremont Lounge and popping up here, there everywhere, taking pictures. The most amazing thing about this whole day. By the way, went on for two days. Like this all went on for two days. Mick and Keith were there. I have a really crazy story about Keith Richards, but I don't know if I'm going to share it on air because I don't know. know if I should, but, um, but the, the craziest thing was is that, so Mick goes and he records whatever he's doing, you know, blocking, camera blocking or whatever. This goes on for a couple of hours. And I'm, now it's like seven o'clock at night and I'm still there. And my wife is wondering where I am, but the lights and the rain machine, it's all very exciting to me. And I've been

hanging around now with this guitar tech. And the guitar tech says, I, you know, listen, if you want to go to the show, like, I can certainly get you a couple tickets if you want to go to the show. I'm and this is amazing. When Mick comes out at one point, he's over there and he's talking him and the boy and the guy and they're talking to the guitar tech and I'm standing close. And the guitar tech says, I think we're going to get him to come to the show. And Mick says, well, great, we'll treat him right then. Treat him right. Make sure he's sitting, make sure he's sitting close. And he goes, yeah, the guitar tech goes, well do. Yeah, you mean like close, close? And he says, on stage close. And I, I was like on stage close.

Yes. Because that's where the rich people sit is on stage. Oh, yeah. Rich people don't sit out in the crowd. Not Brian Green. No sorry, Bob. I'm wearing... You gotta know somebody.

Yes. I'm wearing slacks that are three sizes too big with a hua bearer and shoes from eighth grade. Talk Martin. I must have looked like such a bum. The way that I dressed back then was like a mishmash. of craziness. It really was. It was so on craziness. Mick Jagger was the nicest

nicest guy you could have imagined. I mean, he really was. Generous to a fault. Love that. Nice as he could be. Talking to everybody in the, anybody that wanted to have a conversation, he stood for a minute. Giving out gift cards to mix. Giving out gift cards to mix to Chrissy's version of mix, which is Mick Jaggers.

17 locations throughout the Atlanta area. It's franchise. And who knows? Maybe Mick will show up. I just had to tell this story because when you said Mick Jagger, the story slipped my mind, but it's the most obvious story to tell that Mick Jagger really is very, very nice. Did you go to the show? I did. I went to the show. And I went to the show. They put on a great show. And I sat on stage. Nice. Yeah, I sat literally in a metal chair on stage, side stage. It doesn't get better than that. It does not get better than that. And Keith Richards was nice enough to give me a high five on the way out the door.

And what more could you ask for? A pack of cigarettes. A pack of cigarettes. It worked. The best thing about that's it. That's all you need. Smoking cigarettes has its benefits, kids. It really does.

Because every musician probably smoked cigarettes. The best thing about all of this, the funniest thing about all of this, the best thing about all of this is not to actually the Rolling stones. But do you remember that band that sang the song, Little Miss, Little Miss, Little Miss, Camperong? Of course. Remember that? What was the name of that? Um, uh, da-da-da-oh. Oh, God. Dang it's a little tip of my tongue. Ah, we were just talking about them. Oh, we were just. I think the other day. Little Miss, Little Miss, Little Miss, Little Miss Campy Rone. Spin doctors. Spin doctors. The best part about this was, is that the guitar tech was like good friends with the spin doctors who also happened to be in town.

And I went to the spin doctors concert. And let me tell you something. While the Rolling Stones were great, the Spin Doctors are where the party is at. Oh, yeah. That guy is crazy. Really? That dude is crazy.

I don't even know if I should tell that. I mean, that story is insane. But the Spin Doctors know how to party. That's all I got to say. The Rolling Stones, you're probably not going to get to party with them. No. Spin Doctors, anybody, it's all fair again. Yeah.

When you're a one hit wonder and your days of long since passed and you're just hoping to sell tickets. Share the drugs. That's all I'm going to say. Share the drugs. All right. Hey, listen, we might talk to some listeners. Let's see if we can get them on the phone. I see the phone is ringing. So let's do this. Let's take a break. And when we get back, maybe we'll talk to somebody. We'll be back. Okay, you're probably wondering why I, Rachel, have taken over the voice duties at TCB. It's pretty simple. Astrid asked me to shut Brian up, even for a minute. Well, lovely Astrid, your wish is my command. Do you want to help Astrid too? You know you do. Leave a message for her, or me or Chrissy, at 212-4333-TCB. That's 212-433-3822. You can be on the show too. Mm-hmm. Just call and say something. Anything. Or text us and we'll text your right back. Promise. Then head over to TCB Podcast.com and get your free sticker. It's your constitutional right to a sticker. And we must have Abide. You get the point. Follow us on Instagram at The Commercial Break and watch all the episodes on video at YouTube.com slash the commercial break. Best to you. And Astrid, especially Astrid. Yeah, that's a hard one to get out of your head there. Yes. Thanks for getting that.

That's a hard one to get out of your head. That was a hard one. That was an interesting song. And it was an earworm that just went like 1990s viral, which meant that they played it every 15 fucking minutes on the radio. It didn't stop. The Spin Doctors were everywhere. And for the life of me, cannot remember another song that they sang. Not one song that they sang.

But this whole conversation reminds me that I wanted to share something with you. See if there's another song that the Spin Doctors had. Yeah, that's what I was just going to look up. There probably was at least one more. Well, yeah, all one hit wonders have that other song, right? The other song that almost, almost was his famous? Because gravity kind of pulled them along with it, right? So it's like, I don't know, it's just one of those things.

Okay, hold on. Pocketful of kryptonite. Pocketful of kryptonite. No, it's the same song. Pocketful of Cryptonite was the name of the album. Okay. The Got Little Miss Can't be wrong. Cleopatra's cat.

Maybe there were. Cleopatra's cats? Cleopatra's cats? Okay. All right. That's their tops off. Cleopatra's cat. That's so good.

I didn't realize how terrible they were. No, they were nice guys. Well, that was on their follow-up album of Turn It Up. side down. There's, like, most of our audience has no idea what we're talking about here. Well, yeah, Pocketflowed Kryptonite came out in 91. Oh, geez, it was a lot. Yeah, that's older than I thought it was.

Oh, two princes. Two princes can't ignore. Oh, yeah. Is it if you want to call me, baby. Just go ahead now. That's two princes? Yes. Okay, well, that one was probably about.

as famous. 579 million streams of that song on Spotify. They have 4.1 million monthly listeners. Maybe the spin doctors were the hit I didn't think they were. Are the spin doctors good and I just missed it? I mean, I went to their concert. Now, granted, I was pretty drunk. But 60 million on Little Miss Campy Ryan.

Oh, and you know what? God, it all, everything goes back to John Popper. Oh, I remember this one too. Okay. What? Everything goes back to John Popper with us, doesn't it? Yes, it all goes back to Pop-Paw-Popper. Yeah. Because they were also known as the trucking company until John Popper's departure. So he was a-on-Popper was a part of the spin doctors? Where the fuck did I fall off the turn-up truck?

Well, you can't have two, like, lead singer. You can't have a guy with great songs like Cleopatra's cat and John Popper in the same band. That's too much talent in one band. Yeah. That'd be like having God. Yeah, John Popper was part of it. John Popper. Was he their first lead singer or something?

Yeah, well, it says they were known as the trucking company. That was the name of the band. The trucking company. Before John left. Well, I would say that in both cases, they made a smart decision because the spin-go. Doctors and Blues Traveler is infinitely better than the trucking company. Where are you going tonight? I'm going to see the trucking company. Okay. Where are you going to see them? Open mic. That's where. That's the difference. Okay. I remember this song too.

And that's called Jimmy Olson's blues. I'm just going down the list here to see if we can No, I don't remember that one. Play a Cleopatra's cat. Well, I don't. No, Cleopatra's cat. Wow, they've been making an, oh, they just put out an album. Face full of cake. Okay.

Not strong in the naming department, but okay. I did see them for free, so I guess there's that. I can't even find Cleopatra cat here. Maybe they change the name. Maybe they just decided, nope, none of that. No, literally can't find Cleopatra's cat. Spin Doctors from the Road, 1994. Pocketful of Kryptonite.

Right, that was the name of the album. Oh, you want to play this Cleopatra's cat. The song. Here it is. Song by Spind Doctors. Okay. Was it on Cleopatra? Was it on Pocketful of Cryptonite?

No. Home belly groove. Okay, hold on one second. Cleo. The lyrics are interesting. I'm sure they are. Okay, Cleopatra's cat. Here we go.

Okay, that was enough of that. All right. That was not two princes. That was the more soulful side. They took it down. Yeah, they had to take it down. You can't run like that. That's like you can't go 180 miles per hour all day long.

That guy is crazy. I mean, I saw him 15 years after their one. I mean, they didn't. Okay, so they had two or three songs that you remember. But I saw them 15 years after that. And that guy was still bouncing around like he was 12 years old. Yeah, that was insane. And Blues Traveler, we got to give it to Blues Traveler about something.

They had infinitely more listenable songs than. Spin Doctors, that I know of. But with 4.1 million listeners a month? They're still doing something, right? They're still doing something, right? Let's see what Blues Traveler has here. Hold on. Blues Traveler has, no, not the playlist.

I want to see the artist. Are you ready for this? In a great injustice of one of the injustices of our time. Blues Traveler only has 2.3 million listeners a month, While spin doctors have 4.1. Wow. That's crazy. Run around only has 161 million streams.

While two princes has 563 million. How is that possible? What are you people thinking? I don't know. It needs to, we need to put it in a TikTok. Listen. Let's think about another band of that time that was very similar in, maybe not similar. They were really quite unlike anything I had ever heard before at the time,

but I burned out the album, as did everybody that I knew. Rusted Root. Oh, yes. You remember Rusted Root? Okay. Yeah, what was the name of that album? So tonight I might see or something like that. Send me on my way.

No. Oh, yeah. Send me on my way. Send me on my way. Oh, da-de-bid-de-do-da-da-l-da-l. Oh, my little end. Oh, my God. We're really relive in our 90s.

Rusted Root has 3.2 million. God damn. What happened to you, people? Spotify, fuck the whole thing up for everybody. That's all I got to say. But send me on my way, rightfully, as 529 million. That was everywhere, too. God.

Still everywhere. It's on commercials now. Oh, it is. I see it. Brusted roots send me on my way is coming back in fashion, as all things do. Pretty soon we're all going to be hearing two princes again also. We're going to be walking in that retirement home. And two princes, send me on my way.

Send me on my way. Makes sense. That's right. And black from Pearl Jam is going to be playing. Allison Jane. If there's any justice in the world, Alice and Jane. If not, it's going to be Cleopatra's cat. Unbelievable.

Cleopatra's cat. What are we thinking? That's a terrible name for a song. It's a terrible subject for a song. You don't do Cleopatra's cat. Cleopatra. You talk about Cleopatra. No one cared about her cat.

But very briefly, what I did want to talk about while we're talking about music since we've wasted 20 minutes on spin doctor. It's my fault. Everybody can listen to Blues Traveler and get those monthly things up. Yeah, get those monthly things up. Let's give Blues Traveler the time of day, the day to serve. Because Blues Traveler, honestly, and if you've ever seen Blues Traveler live, then you know.

Blues Traveler is one of the great live rock and roll bands. They really are. They were part of that first, like, Horde. Yeah, Horde tour. I think they helped put it on. Lalapalooza, maybe. They were in Lollapalooza. I saw them at Lollapalooza.

They did Horde, which was short-lived, but very, good. It was kind of more, I think Rusted Root also did the Horde Festival. Those, those, those, like, early baby festivals that now have turned into these, you know, mega monolith, huge festivals. Like, all those little seedlings were planted really in the 90s, all, like, all trying to be the next woodstock, but a stampable, outable version of woodstock, a little more contained, a little more, you know, okay, let's put some good bands together. Let's have a day, maybe two, when we go out there, or three, in the case of Lala pluza. where we go out there, we play for a couple of days.

And I think the first Lollapalooza was one day. I think it was one day. And I think it was like 20 bands in one day, starting at noon, ending at midnight, you know, kind of thing. I went to it one year. I went to a couple of them. I was a senior in high school. Yeah. Yeah.

It was insane. Rage Against the Machine was there. I love Rage Against the Machine. They also had one about the Tibetan, the Tibetan, the Tibetan. Yeah. Remember that one, Beastie Boys, Widespread Panic. It was like a Bull. bunch of bands that played from that. But you think about those early, those early quote-unquote

festivals, which was not like camping. It was just like you'd show up at the place. You'd see a whole day of music. Those were all fucking fantastic. And now they've turned into these huge events where you spend a million dollars and, you know, we've talked about it. I need to beat it up. But one of the things I did want to talk about while we were on music is Henry Hall. Do you remember Henry Hall? Yes, yes, yes. Sharp-eared commercial. Break listeners will remember that I was a fan of a show called Friday Night Dinner. A Friday Night Dinner was a show from the UK about Friday Night Dinner, the traditional dinner before the Sabbath that Jewish people have. It was a comedy show. It was on for like four or five seasons. It is a

beloved comedy show in the UK. It is hilarious. I don't know where you can see it right now. They might have one season on Amazon. It's weird. The licensing rights are all over the place with this show. So it's really hard to find. But they did a U.S. version of this. And we had Henry Hall, who was one of the guys who was on that show. That U.S. version is called Dinner with the Parents.

And it is also very funny. We had Henry and another co-star of his on the show. Henry told us at the time that he was doing music. He was going to put out an album. And he's Julia Louis Dreyfus's son. Son, that's right. And he was going to put it. out an album and check it out and maybe I'll come back when it, you know, when I put the album out

or whatever. He was talking about that. You know, it was so long ago. I didn't think much of it. And not that I, not that I was like being dismissive of Henry, but I just didn't think much of it until the other night when I was scrolling on YouTube and I saw Henry playing one of his songs in like kind of an artsy video at a studio. Like one of his songs from the album, he went into his studio, a director and some other musicians got together and they did kind of this artsy live version. of a song called Luce and L-U-C-E. And the song blew my fucking mind.

It's really good. You played it for me. Now, I contacted Henry and I said, wow, dude, really fucking good. Can I play this on the commercial break? And he said, have at it. I'd love that. You know, if you guys want to play it and get some attention, that'd be great. So let's do this.

Let's take a break. And when we get back, I'll play Luce for you, the live version of Luce. And hopefully you enjoy it. right, we'll be back. You'll make this rather snappy, won't you? I'll have some very heavy thinking to do before 10 o'clock. Hi, cats and kittens, Rachel here. Do you ever get the urge to speak endlessly into the void?

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out if you want to. But I told Henry, I said, listen, you're also a talented actor, but you might be on to something with this music. And I went and listened to some of the other songs that he has out there. And some of them are good. I think this is the best, this is my favorite one. This is like my personal favorite. But now listen to this song. I'm going to play it probably in its entirety, just so you get the vibe. This is him playing guitar also. So keep that in mind. There's only one guitar in this, and it's him playing the guitar. And then maybe I will share the link on the show note so you can watch it yourself. I don't want to put it on the YouTube video. Let's give him credit for the view. Okay, here we go. Let's see if I can, if I'm doing this right.

Come on, come on, come on. Really good. I mean, really, really. fucking good. I'm trying to pin it a little bit. Pixies-ish, maybe a little bit. I guess a little pixies in there. A little, uh, I don't know, it kind of reminds me of like late 90s old rock a little bit. Kind of like that dissident. It's melodic. It's got a groove to it. His voice is falsetto and incredible. And that guitar playing is like, it's a little dinosaur juniorish if I'm being honest. I loved it. Yeah, it is a really good song. I about to watch this thing 20 fucking times one night. Like two in the morning, I woke up to go to the bathroom. And of course, I bring my phone,

you know, because I can't pee for five seconds that I have on my phone with me. And it just pops up on my YouTube. And I'm like, oh, what's that? Henry? Oh, my God, look at Henry. And there's a nice video there. And two hours later, I'm still playing it over and over again. And my kid was into bed with me. And at one point, he's like, dad, what's that song? And I'm like, don't you worry about it. This is the next Rolling Stones here, kid. Henry Hall. Look at that. He's so good. Henry Hall. Luce is the song. Go check it out. It's on YouTube. I'll put a link in the video. We are not being sponsored by this. I just honestly really loved this song. And one of the things that Chrissy and I think are both attached to in a lot of ways. And part of the reason why I believe our friendship has endured so long is our love of music and good music at that. And if you don't like that song, you're crazy, is good music. The problem with podcasts is because of the disparate nature of the RSS feed, the licensing in order to play music that I don't pay royalties to, like our intro and our outro songs, the stuff we put in commercials, I license that music. And you'll notice that that's not a rusted root song.

I'm not licensing rusted root songs because that's an immense amount of money. Those people deserve to get paid when you hear their songs, as do the artists for our intros and outros. And so we license it every season. We re-license it. But getting a license to play like, you know, as-cap music. Right. It's expensive. And for the amount of downloads that we get and the amount of people that listen to us, all seven people, it would literally cost a dollar a person.

And I don't make that back. So we don't play copyrighted music. Yeah, otherwise we would. We would play a lot more music on here. It's the reason why the one place, the one niche, the one thing in the podcast. universe, the podcast landscape that you will not find is a lot of music podcasts because they don't have the license to play it. They'll get shut down real quick. Spotify won't allow it. You'll get, as a matter of fact, ASCAP and BMI are on a tear right now. They're on a tear because they're

pissed at Spotify for allowing, you know, certain things to happen on the platform that they don't think. So what they're doing is they are trying to legally threaten individual podcasters for playing clips of copyrighted music. They're sending them cease and desists and fines and notices and all this for like a podcast where it gets like 300 downloads. And they're sending him these big threatening letters from big threatening law firms. Kind of a shitty thing to do. But I get it. You got to like protect the rights, right? Yeah. And so just to be just to be clear, I had permission from Henry to play that. And I imagine he's the rights holder on that song. At least I hope so. I hope I'll get a cease and assess from Henry's attorney. Henry's like, sure. Play it.

I'll send you the bill. Go for it. Go for it. But one of the things I'd love to do in the future as we kind of negotiate these things with our network and stuff is play you music that we like. So hopefully it can turn you on to something. Or just show you how terrible my taste in music is, one of the two. 33P I can play all day long because ASCAP doesn't, ASCAP, no, no rights on that, bitch. No, sir, E, Bob.

I never let ASCab get their hands on my songwriting credits. Stay true to yourself. I did. I never sold out. That's right. That's why I didn't play that Rolling Stone song. I was telling that story. You can find the video online.

I know. I want to watch that video now. I'll show it to you. I forgot the name of the song, but it's pretty easy to find because it's Mick Jagger dancing in a rain-filled hotel. I mean, I remember the video. Yeah. It was like their first video in years.

I mean, years and years. And it was a famous director, too, which I didn't know at the time, but I've learned since. The director is pretty famous also. All right. The 12 hours of TCB is almost upon us right around the corner, just a few weeks from now. So do yourself in favor. Mark it down on your calendar. 12 episodes of the commercial break, including celebrity guests, all to raise awareness about mental health,

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Goodbye. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.