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Episode Date: October 31, 2024

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And best to you out there in the podcast universe. So many people do. I get it. I get that often. Where's the aliens after 772,000 different episodes of me pressing that button, I decided to give it a break. But every once in a while, I do miss it. I agree. You got to harken back to the days. I was going to do, yeah, boy. But I went with the aliens as we come back today. Yesterday, our first day back after my parathyroid

surgery. I just got to tell you right now, not the best the commercial break had to offer for sure, but I was just trying to muddle through somehow and I'll explain why. So yesterday was Wednesday, Tuesday we had a best of. Christina did a great job on the best of. Did you listen to the best of? Yes, and they were very good. Christina did a great job.

I laughed out loud. I do love me some Christina sometimes. She was really funny on Tuesday's best of. She replayed a couple of the episodes where I was talking about my vasectomy, pulling my V-card, and also nutfoliating beforehand. You were telling me that I had to exfoliate my nuts. But anyway, I got my parathyroid taken out. Yesterday, Chrissy and I, I said, okay, let's try and get back in the studio. My throat's not 100%, but let's try. When I got my parathyroid taken out, one of the things that they have to do is they have to go behind your actual thyroid.

So they make a slice in your throat where your thyroid is, then they pull your thyroid out and they look for that sick parathyroid, the tumor behind my throat. When they do that, they stimulate, they manually stimulate that gland, like a lot of glands are manually stimulated. They manually stimulate the thyroid in some cases, and then you get an additional, you know, another fun little thing you get to deal with, which is called thyroidism, hyperthyroidism. And that's like when you get a shot of thyroid hormone, which feels to me like being in my twenties behind a bar. That's what it feels like to me. It feels like 17 cups of coffee, way too much cocaine, additional speed in your body. I don't know any other way to put

it. Yeah. And you were so tired before. Yes. You were going the other way. Yeah, no, it's going the opposite direction. I can't sleep, I'm jittery, I'm nervous. And so I called the surgeon, the surgeon gave me his cell phone number, which I think is about the dumbest thing

you could do to a hypochondriac. Give a hypochondriac your phone number when you have an actual medical security. See how that works out. So I called the surgeon and I said, hey man, I just wanna check and make sure that these things that I'm feeling are like normal in the process after a parathyroidectomy. And he said, no, actually they're not.

What I think you have is that we were feeling for nodules on your thyroid and we probably stimulated your thyroid and then it released a bunch of this thyroid medication. And I said, oh, okay, well, you know, I haven't slept in a couple of days. Hopefully tonight I'll get a good night's sleep. And he said, yeah, probably not. You're probably going to be dealing with this for a couple more days. And I was like, oh, thanks. So then last night I'm staring in the mirror, like, cause now I'm just totally out of my fucking brain. So I'm staring in the mirror like a crazy person and I'm like, oh my God, I just want to come down just a little bit. I want to come down just

a little bit. And I realized that I have no pupils whatsoever, Chrissy, like pinpoint pupils. I look like the Cheshire Cat in the opposite direction. So I go, Astrid, look at my eyes. And she was like, what are you talking about? And she, then she looks at me, she goes, oh my God, you don't have any pupils. And I'm like, isn't that insane? Nicole Soule-Blaire You're like a record. Brian Smith I'm like a little possum running around. Nicole Soule-Blaire I know, after all the possum talk, and then you got possum eyes. Brian Smith She goes, babe, you really don't have any pupils. I go, turn off the lights and then

turn them back on real quick. So if anybody had this scene in my bathroom last night, is Brian staring in the mirror for an hour and then Astrid flipping on and off the lights. Testing it. Testing my pupils. She's like, you really don't have any pupils. I go, yeah, it's like I'm 26 again. I don't have any pupils. Your body is just adjusting. Re-adjusting. Oh my God, readjusting. Like I've had enough drama. Now I got to go in the opposite direction. It's just a fucking nightmare.

Anyway, I'm back. We're, I'm feeling a little bit better today. We're so happy. Everything went well though. Yeah, it did. Generally it went well. I'll just, I guess I'll just be sick this way for a little while.

It's better than the alternative. I'll be honest. If I'm gonna be something, let me be awake and not asleep. Right. That's very true. But of course I have no excuse to take a nap anymore because Astrid doesn't believe me. She's like, yeah.

I saw that too. I see your pupils. Yeah, I see your pupils. There's no nap. That is the worst. When you're trying to go to sleep and you can't, it's not an insomnia. It really is. Yeah, it's your body doesn't even feel tired. I'm just tossing and turning and watching endless amounts of bad British television on Amazon. It's horrible.

I hear you. So here we are, just a short, a couple of days from the election. And I don't want to get all political because everyone's stressed out about it. And let this be a break from, let's be a little bit of a break from politics anyway. But I do have to mention, because I think we said yesterday show that we would talk about, I do have to mention, you know, Trump put together this big MSG rally and, um, yeah, I don't even know, you know, I get it. Like this is a game of inches right now for both campaigns and those game of inches, you need to reach as many people as possible and pull just those few... First of all, when they talk about these undecided voters, who in the fuck are these undecided voters exactly? I don't know.

Who has been living on this earth? Who has been living in the United States of America since 2014 and still undecided about who they're going to vote for? I really don't have any clue. But there are apparently a few of them out there and this is what they have to do. They have to get out there, make a bunch of noise, get as much free press as they can, and then hopefully pull one or two of those voters aside. At the MSG rally, they put together a who's who of celebrities to introduce Trump, including one. I used to, there was a time, there was a time way back in the eighties, and I think you'll remember this too, Chrissy, when Hulk

Hogan could do no wrong. Exactly. Hulk Hogan was a hero amongst heroes. He was a man amongst men, women, men, children, old people, young people, everybody had Hulkulkamania. Everybody, the entire country. If you weren't alive at this time or you were too young to remember, Hulk Hogan took the world by storm for about four years and he was just like a god. He really was like a Greek god here on earth. Ripping his shirt, running at, running down, you know, WWF, those Wrestle Manias running down ripping his shirt, running out, running down, you know, WWF, those WrestleMania's,

running down, ripping his shirt off. I am a real American. Now he's at the Trump rally, trying to rip off his shirt. Did you see that? He was trying to rip off his shirt for like two minutes and he couldn't quite do it. You know, Rudy Giuliani, Hulk Hogan, some other people, they all got together at that Trump rally. And listen, okay, Trump has... Cool, dude, put your rallies together. You know, Harris is doing the same thing. I guess that's just what

we do these days, put together rallies and have famous people show up to introduce us. But I'm sure you have to have your head in a fucking hole not to have heard about Kill Tony, Tony Hinchcliffe, and his kind of unwieldy rant. I want to say he did like a set of jokes, but I saw it and I'm not sure a bunch of it was funny, but he did kind of this whole rant and said some things that were really quite off color and probably offensive to some people. Kind of offensive to me, and I'm not even Puerto Rican to be honest with you, Christi. I mean, I'd like to think I'm Puerto Rican, but I'm not. I eat beans and rice all the time, but that's because my wife is Venezuelan. I do love beans and rice. Beans and rice is the best fucking meal, I gotta be honest with you. Beans and rice and agudo

are a every once in a while. But he says these kind of like unhinged things that are really, um, I don't know. I didn't think they were funny. Did you think they were funny? Not at all. And I wonder why Tony Hingedcliffe decided to accept that invitation in the first place. And for those of you that don't know Tony Hingedcliffe, he is a comedian. He is not, I think, he's not well known in the mainstream, but he has this show called Kill Tony. And Kill Tony is basically a live podcast. It's kind of a roast battle, so to speak. A bunch of different comedians get up on a dais,

they roast up-and-coming comedians get up, they do a set, they do a couple of jokes, and then this dais of well-known comedians will then roast that particular comedian. They bring up people of all and then this dais of well-known comedians will then roast that particular comedian. They bring up people of all different shapes and sizes, all different mental abilities, all different caps and handicaps. They really kind of are all inclusive. They bring a bunch of different people up and it's no holds barred no matter who you are.

Gay, straight, one arm, two arms. Just watch an episode of Kill Tony. Puerto Rican, not Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican, not Puerto Rican, black, white, it doesn't matter. Tony is very inclusive about roasting people, first of all, and second of all, giving people the spotlight. He does that. So in some sense, when I watch Kill Tony, I go, oh, okay, listen, he's inviting everybody. He was taking that to the stage.

Yeah, he's taking that to the stage. He's including everybody, the stage. Yeah. He's taking that to the stage. He's, he's including everybody. He's roasting everybody. But then when you go to a political route, when you decide to open up for Trump, it doesn't translate. It just seems like trolling. It's not funny. I'm sorry. It wasn't funny. You're not doing a set at the fucking Dania point in product here in front of

50,000 people and then millions of others on television. And you know, listen, if the point was to get publicity, well done. You have officially gotten as much publicity as I think you could ever get, Tony. Congratulations. But if the point was to bring kind of that Kill Tony vibe to the Trump rally, I think you missed on that point because it ended up, to me at least, seeming- Pete Slauson Mean. Pete Slauson Mean. Mean and mean-spirited and I don't think very funny and then you did a great

job of probably offending a lot of people. Now, I've also heard from a lot of Puerto Ricans that they're not offended by this, that they felt like it was just a joke and if you can't take a joke, go fuck yourself. Well, that's a, I guess that's an opinion too. So I thought Chrissy, because it's kind of timely that maybe what we should do is we should talk to like an insider, like an LA comedy insider. We have a friend named Doug Bass. He was in our, in our clubhouse groups a lot back in the day when we were on Clubhouse. That was only three years ago, but it feels like it was 30 years ago. Yeah. It feels like back when I had no pupils.

Right, so much has happened. Actually, when I was on Clubhouse, I didn't have pupils either. I was up day or night. You were taking calls, getting in rooms at three, four in the morning. Oh my God, my wife was about to divorce me. I swear to God, I was close to getting a divorce because it would be four in the morning and

that little noise would go off, that little clubhouse bell, bing bong, you've been invited to speak here. You're sneaking in the bathroom. And I'd be like, yeah, I know. Well, I really think when you start a podcast, you should think of a name first. What are you doing in there? Not taking a shit. Let me tell you how to market your podcast. Buy billboards. Buy billboards in Iowa. If you're at Clubhouse, I swear to God, my water just broke.

Well, I realize your water just broke, honey, but the 15th funniest comedian in Clubhouse just invited me to be on stage and say nothing. So I'm pretty sure this is the big break I've been looking for. Nicole Soule- This is it. Jared Slauson This is it. Coca-Cola is going to sponsor my next clubhouse. Nicole Soule- Right. Jared Slauson We're going to be rich. Uh, Doug was in our, in our, a bunch of our clubhouse rooms. He's a standup comedian. He's an actor, a director. Um, and he has this very funny show

that he does out there, this live show and a podcast called I'm a Basshole, to play off his name. And I've been on that show. I mean, you tell about one time when you were really an ass, like the time when you were the biggest asshole in the world, you tell that story. So he invites standup comedians to come do this live and he's kind of the ringmaster of this. He's in the know.

I thought it might be interesting to get his take on all of this So let's do this. Let's take a short break I'm gonna invite Doug into the conversation and then we'll get his take on Tony Hinchcliffe And then I also want to follow up with him I think I shared this a couple of months ago about the comedy fantasy camp, right? And what a ripoff some people thought that that was Doug is the guy who kind of did that investigative reporting, brought people on to talk about the comedy fantasy camp and the misgivings they had.

Like what the experience they had. The experience they had. These kind of up and coming comics. Which wasn't great. Which wasn't great. No. Wasn't great. They wanted their money back. So let's do this. Let's take a break and then we'll bring Doug into the conversation. We'll talk about Tony. We'll talk about the comedy fantasy camp and yeah. Okay. That's all I got to say. Let's the conversation. We'll talk about Tony, we'll talk about the comedy fantasy camp, and... Yeah, okay, that's all I gotta say. We'll be back.

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Maybe four years ago. And then I said, you should come on our show. And four years later, I'm finally living up to that end of the agreement. Hi, Doug. How are you? Hey, guys. How are you? How you been? Great.

Yeah, we're good. We're good. I think it's an opportune time to talk to you. It's like serendipitous that we have had this planned for a month or so. Yeah. Because I, you know, you're at LA, I kind of consider you like an LA comedy insider. You work at the Improv. You do a lot of work with other comics. You have Bass Hole, where I see a lot of other comics stop by and

do the show with you. I am interested to hear your take on the Madison Square Garden, Tony Hinchcliffe rant that he went on. I see some of your musings on Instagram, but how do you feel about that? I sense that here's, you wanted to hear my take real quick and then I'll hear your take. My take is, is that, you know, I don't have anything against Tony. I've seen the podcast, I've watched the live shows on YouTube and stuff like that. And I think he's got his lane and that lane is very popular. He's got a lot of people that like what he do. And I find some of it very funny, especially some of the roast stuff that he's done.

But you know, when you're opening for Donald Trump, you're kind of putting yourself in a whole different universe. And sometimes in an effort to be funny, you just end up sounding like a troll, right? And I don't know. That's just my take on it. I didn't. Yeah. I agree.

I mean, I don't know whose idea it was to book him to open that whole thing. Joe Rogan. They should have. It's kind of like you're getting what you signed up for, I think. I don't know Tony personally, but I've watched his show on and off over the years and stuff. The format's very popular. It's fun. it's great. His crowd is definitely an insider comedy open mic crowd. And they're rowdy and I'm guessing they lean more Republican, I don't know. I didn't even know he was in the Trump wheelhouse

until the other day. Yeah, I had no idea. So when he opens that show with these racist jokes and stuff coming off the Tom Brady roast, you knew what you were going to get pretty much. He's in a tough position because if he didn't do that, racist jokes and stuff, coming off the Tom Brady roast, you knew what you were going to get pretty much. He's in a tough position because if he didn't do that, it's like, they'd be like, why are you even here, first of all?

Why are you here speaking if you're not going to do roasts or kind of, but who are you roasting? If Trump was there and you're roasting him, okay, that's one thing, but you're roasting potential voters or the people of Puerto Rico and Latinos and stuff Trump was there and you're roasting him, okay, that's one thing, you know? But you're roasting potential voters or the people of Puerto Rico and Latinos and stuff. And it's just like, you know, it's in the middle of the day, it's not a comedy club,

it's a very serious political rally that's gonna decide our next president. And yeah, I just think he, you know, I mean, that job is not, you're walking into a disaster, I think, as a comedian taking that kind of job, I mean, that job is not a, you're walking into a disaster, I think, as a comedian taking that kind of job, I think. Yeah. I mean, listen, Tony can fill the Madison Square Garden three nights in a row. So I'm not, so he's done a great job, right? He's very successful at what he does and he's got

his lane. I agree with you. I think his crowd is more of like an insider standup, roast battle kind of crowd. And we know Brian Moses, we've had him on the show. Brian and Tony worked together for a long time. And so I don't have anything against that kind of comedy. And I think you should be able to say whatever you want to say. Like, I don't believe in censorship in the least. Say whatever it is you want to say, but I agree with you.

When you're opening for Donald Trump at a very serious political rally, I think the Trump camp had to have known what they were getting themselves into. Well, it's like, you know, I mean, I'm sure him and his team wrote a bunch of jokes for this thing. And I'm pretty sure that was like, you know, presented to them because it was probably on the teleprompter. So someone had to look at it and be like, okay, this is fine. Or like, you know, or take this out or don't say that, you know, so like, when he says

this, you know, Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico's a floating island, a garbage joke, and then they retract their statement and saying like, we don't agree with anything Tony Hinchcliffe said on part of the Donald Trump campaign. It's like, well, you kind of, you approved it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure he had to submit what he was gonna say.

Of course, he's not gonna go up there and do 15 minutes and not have somebody at the campaign, take a look at that. And if he did then shame on the campaign for, I mean, at the same time you watched the opening, you know, I mean, some of these speakers of this thing, it was kind of a, a bad house. It seemed like he was like trying to rip his shirt off. He's back. I'm like, why even?

Yeah. He's been through like, why is it helping you at all at all. Yeah. I mean, seriously, I have to listen, you know, if you listen to our show, we generally stay away from politics. Sure. We've made our, we've made our point of view known. And if you listen to the show, then you know, the one time an election cycle, we talk about politics we did last week and the, but like take all politics out of it objectively. Why put that crew together?

Like it seems a little, I don't know, if you're trying to win a campaign, why bring Giuliani, Tony Hingedcliffe, Hulk Hogan? I mean, why bring those guys up there if what you really need to do is court women and minority voters. And then they bring kind of this bro-tastic. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, they, mean they of course they you know each each side has their celebrity endorsements or whatever. Of course. I think then you have like Dr.

Phil saying like it's not about the celebrities and he is the celebrity. So it's like you know it's like to each their own you know but yeah I don't know Tony Tony's Hengecliffe I mean like you know I mean he's he's under the fire right now you know it's like is this gonna cancel him? I doubt it. No. Because that's the way he runs his show and stuff. His show is very successful. I wish my show was half the success of what you've got going on right now.

It's his own. People are going to cringe at what he says. I don't think he should have said that. He definitely comes off as a little racist, whiny, kind of bitchy comedian a little bit. But I don't know. I mean, yeah, it wasn't the right place for him to do that. And you should have known better, I think. I do have to say this. And I told, I was talking to someone earlier today and I do have to say this. Tony does not lose one listener because of this. He doesn't lose one viewer because of this. He gains them. And for him, there's going to be a lot of people who choose

not to, you know, everyone's going to say canceled, canceled, canceled, but only canceled to a certain segment of the population. And that segment of the population probably wasn't watching Kill Tony in the first place. So it doesn't really matter to him. It's interesting because I don't think he'll lose fan base. I mean, you might lose some, who knows, but like, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's a weird position because like you have like his agencies, like, I don't know if he's with like UTA or something like that or management or whatever. It's like these kinds of situations in the past, they've dropped people, you

know, during the me too moment or whatever, like dropped someone who's like been racist or accused of sexual allegations or whatever, dropped them from their roster, they're done. They're fired from their agency. It's like, will they do this with Tony Hinchcliffe? You know what I mean? It's like, it's kind of under the same thing. It's like, oh he's a racist, I don't know, you know, like right now he's under a lot of fire and then UTA is carrying him. It's like, well why did you, you know, drop, you know, say a Kevin Spacey who is innocent, really, I guess, you know, and you know,

under law. Right. You know, I mean, it's a whole thing. You can get into an argument forever about it. It is very interesting. He got dropped by WME years ago, and then I think UTA picked him up. It'll be interesting to see what the fallout is. But I think for me, at least, if I'm a stand-up comedian and a political campaign asks me to get up and do 15 minutes

I'm probably saying no to that I'm probably saying no to it I think in this day and culture now it's become like these those gigs You know, I mean like first of all everyone's talking about Tony. So like I'm sure he wins, you know It's like he's on CNN. He's on Fox like half the people didn't know who he was until this thing, you know, like a lot of political people. So, you know, any press is good press, bad press, you know, it's, it's, he's going to ride the wave and it's like people are talking about his name this week and you know, I'm

sure he's secretly loving that, you know, so it's good. But you know, any of these gigs, I would say, yeah, like the political thing, even the Oscars, like people don't even want to host that anymore because everyone throws you under the bus if you make an edgy joke that's too, you know, too much or whatever. So it's like these gigs that used to be, you know, fun for these comics, like the White House correspondents, then like all this stuff. It's like, you got to walk into that and be like, is this really worth it?

Like wouldn't I just rather have my Netflix special and do my shows on the road or my talk show or whatever, you know, it's like like I don't know. It's scary territory now I think isn't there a segment of comedians isn't there a segment of entertainers? I guess it's probably a more broad word to use isn't there a segment of entertainers in 2024 That's their brand like that's on brand for them it becomes political because it gets clicks and it gets views. And the edgier, the more extreme I can get with the comedy or the words or whatever it is, the more views I get and the more clicks I get, then that it's

just kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy. You become political because it is what's driving the revenue. It's what's driving the views. It's what's driving the clicks. It's what's driving the clicks. And it's interesting, because when these organizations decide to hire a comic for hosting the Oscars or hosting a political dinner or whatever, it's like there's two choices they can make.

It's like there's a host comedian, like a Jimmy Kimmel or something like that, which he's not a traditional stand-up, but he's funny and he's a host of a show and he knows how to kind of control that kind of audience. And he's going to, you know, he's going to kind of go one way, but he's not going to be too edgy, but he's going to be funny, you know, or you, you know, they hire like, you know, like a Ricky Gervais or like, you know, Tony where it's like, it's going to be off the wall and it's going to be, you know, jokes that are kind of like,

you know, may not be okay and like edgy and be you know jokes that are kind of like you know may not be okay and Like edgy and you know scary territory, but like yeah, that's kind of like what what people want Maybe but then they don't want it so it's like really confusing I think you know because you can go with a safe bet like I just a host like you know like a Jay Leno or whoever you know and You're gonna get what you get, but then if you hire someone that's like off the wall It's like you better be prepared for some kind of, you know, repercussion of, you know, social media outrage or cancellation or whatever.

Yeah. It's weird. It's a weird kind of territory right now, I think. It is a tough position, I think. And I think it's also a tough position for comedians especially to be in. Who were we? I can't remember who we were talking to. We were talking to a comedian, I'll think of his name in one second, Sam, Sam Aril. We were talking to Sam and Sam is, you know, I don't like to use the word edgy, but Sam is kind of a no holds barred kind of comic, right? He says what he says and it's for the laughs.

Sam is funny, He gets the laugh. But he was sharing with us that sometimes he'll start a joke and before he even gets through the joke, right, there's people protesting. They're like, screaming, oh, um, ah, you know, don't go there, whatever it is. And he's like, I'm a comedian. You realize there's a punchline coming, right? And he, he is funny and tactful and it's satire and he gets there and he gets to the point. But at the end

there's always a laugh. And then I think there's this other brand of comedy, which is I'm just saying it to get the reaction. I don't care about the laugh. It's the reaction that I want because the reaction speaks to a certain point of view and then that certain point of view will then feed my clicks. It'll feed my views. And, um, yeah. And that's, and that's what it's all about now. It's, it's like, who has, you know, how many Instagram followers, how many views on TikTok, whatever. It's like you've got comedians that are, you know, comedians, if you want to, you know, that are just TikTok people that are, you know, have millions of views. And you know, they're going to headline, you know, the improv or they're going to book

out the club or whatever. And they've never been on stage before in their life. Right. Yeah. And they're like, okay, go ahead and do it. Because the club's like, we're going to sell out, we're going to book out the club or whatever, and they've never been on stage before in their life. Right. Yeah. And they're like, OK, go ahead, do it, because the club's like, we're going to sell out, we're going to make money. And they don't know what they're doing, but they have a crowd there that likes them.

So it's like, comedy has definitely changed over the past five to eight years here. It's an interesting time right now. And comics really need to embrace podcasting, social media, TikTok, all this stuff. I know some of the comics that are like, I don't have a podcast. I don't want to do it.

You know, and I'm like, well, I think I almost think that's more important than, you know, doing the A, B and C show and you know, whatever bar and club and you know, South LA or whatever, you know, because like how many people are going to see that, you know, yeah, you're going to work on your jokes, whatever. But it's like, get on the podcast, get on Instagram and and then do stuff, put your reels up, because that stuff takes off, then you will be booking more shows. It's easier to get booked then. Peter Belliolio Is there a divide, because you spend so much time at comedy clubs and inside that world, is there a divide with comics when you see someone that has a million TikTok followers and they're doing some

five second punch lines, you know, and they're getting billions of views, and then they sell out the improv, and then you've got a traditional comic who's working the ropes, getting up there every night, crafting the jokes, you know, bombing and, you know, bombing, then dusting themselves off and doing it again an hour later and you know doing another five minutes. Is there a divide? Do people get upset by the TikTok quote-unquote comedian or is it just part of the game? I think there, I mean there's probably definitely a divide with like, you know, different generations of comics like the older comics definitely are probably like, what is this shit? You know, like how do I compete with this? I don't even know what a TikTok is, you know, that kind of thing.

So it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like almost like a job where it's like, oh, you need to know all these skills in order to do this. Now you need to be, you know, proficient in AI to do this and this. And it's like, you know, these older people are going to be like, I'm not learning that, you know, I'm 50, 60 years old, you know, whatever. And it's like, but then there's the people in between where it's like the millennials or whatever. It's like we're young enough to really adapt to the new technology and we use it every day so it's like we're young enough to learn it and adapt to it. Yeah, there's definitely people that are probably pissed off about it and bitter or whatever,

but it's also like you got to adapt with the times and the future and stuff, I think. And for me as a comic performer, I'm pretty tech savvy with all this stuff anyway. And I've always considered myself an entertainer. So with that, if you're a comedian, an entertainer, an actor, a host, whatever, you got to adapt to whatever's going on. And it's your job to kind of like, I know how to do stand-up comedy. I know how to act. I know how to improvise and do all that stuff. So it's like, these are all tools in my bag.

And like this new stuff, it's like, okay, yeah, I'm going to make a TikTok. I'm going to do a podcast. You know, that's just, these are just new tools that you got to use. And you know, once you get the opportunity to be on stage, that stuff I've been doing since high school. So it's like, that's fun and I know how to do that. So it's like all this other stuff you've

got to adapt to, to get you on stage again. So yeah, I think, I think people that aren't willing to adapt to the new kind of way to do it is, is they're hurting themselves in the long run. There's always going to be the way to, you know, craft your joke and work on that stuff. But like it's a business too. And you you got a the business part is almost more important than the performing part sometimes sad to say especially nowadays. I think you know I would never call myself a comic. I'm not a comic. I don't get up. I don't do stand-up, right? Chrissy and I get in here we muse. That's what we're doing. We're entertaining people. If they find it funny, they find it funny. If they don't, they don't, but I'm

not a comic. I don't craft jokes. I don't get up on stage. I don't bomb in front of people. I don't even talk in front of people. I talk in front of Chrissy. Right. And that's it. And so, you know, I, when we talk to comics and we've talked to so many of them, we talked

to these standup comics, it's just like, it's a new world. It's a new frontier. But one thing most of the comics that we've spoken with have in common is that they understand that the internet, social media, podcasting, it's a new way to reach an audience. It's a new way to garner an audience where you don't have to stand up. And I'm not saying this is good, bad, or indifferent,

but you don't have to stand up and beat your knees up every night, twice a night or whatever it is. You can get on there and you can say something funny or you can muse or entertain or whatever it is. You can get on there, you can say something funny or you can muse or entertain or whatever it is. You get a hundred thousand people to like your shit and you didn't have to do anything but turn on, press record. Right. And you can try out jokes and stuff online instead of like slipping around to like open mics or whatever, you know? It's like go on, you put a video up of a joke or

you go on a Zoom show or, you know, I don't know, like chat with someone. I don't like there's a million ways where I'm like, I'm not going to leave my house, but I'm going to try this virtual reality show. You can go do open mic, you know, and like not leave your living room, you know? No way. Really? Yeah. There's those on the on the the VR goggles. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. Like, yeah, yeah. You do that. You could do a open mic from your living room and not leave the house

and do five minutes and test out stuff there before you go do a set at the improv or whatever. So it's like, there's all these new things where you don't have to drive around and wait and then hope to get picked for an open mic or do this or that. So yeah, it's adapting to the new technology. And I think the new technology is helping people. How many of these comics are releasing Netflix specials every two months, three months? That used to be like, like, you know, you'd have a special like once every three years. Yeah. Like, like they'd be working on that for three years and then they do the special. Now it's like, you see like a comic that you

just kind of, it's his like eighth Netflix special. It's like, is it? Two came out this year. It's like, oh, okay. So it's like, you know, it's like these people just have hours of stuff or they burn through it because they put it up there and then they start over again. And they got stories that they interweave with the stand up storytelling and that kind of stuff. So it's like, it's a whole new world with this stuff and it's kind of crazy, but it's, it's interesting, you know, it keeps it fresh. Do you still enjoy the, is your first love stand up? Do you still enjoy getting up there and-

I mean, I enjoy, I definitely enjoy stand up. Yeah, I mean, my first love has always been acting and directing, I really love directing stuff. But yeah, hosting has become one of my first loves now, I would say, stand up and hosting. Like the podcast definitely, I love interviewing people, I would say, stand up and hosting. The podcast definitely, I love interviewing people, I think that's definitely a skill, you guys do that well.

And that's the other thing, there's different types of comics, I'd always say. There's stand up comics, there's host comics, there's podcast comics. You guys run a comedy podcast, so you're not traditional stand ups, but you guys are funny, and you could definitely get on stage and entertain people in a different way for an hour or whatever, you know, and interview someone or that kind of thing. Well, you know, it's, you know, it's interesting is so, you know, a couple of months back or at the beginning of the year, someone approaches us, a promoter approaches us and says, hey, we'll pay you, go out there, do some live shows, right? Which is something that Chrissy and I had talked about doing. But when you think about it, it's like, I don't have jokes. Like, I'm not

going to get up and do anything. I'm not going to do 15 minutes of yuckles, right? I don't know. I don't know how to do that. I don't have a set. But then when it comes to fruition, when you sign the contract, then you have to start thinking about how am I going to entertain people for an hour or two or two and a half or whatever it is. And so Chrissy and I went and did the hard work of crafting a show where we think people can be entertained because I don't know if people really wanna watch me talking to microphone like this for an hour and a half. They don't wanna pay 35 bucks to go sit there

and watch that. It's a skill, it's an art. It's something that you have to do. But what we do is much different than what you do or what Sam does. And you're right, like hosting is a different kind of comedy, right? You have to have a different skill set than getting up there and killing for an hour.

It's very different. And like, I would say even with my live Basel show, I don't get to do much stand-up comedy on that show, I'll be honest. Like, it's literally, it's me hosting it, and you know, I do maybe a couple jokes at the beginning or some crowd work And then I'm right into the show and it's it's it's hosting the show of you know Having these other comics come on doing a little bit of time and then telling their asshole story And then I jump in and improvise an interview with them on stage along with the judging panel and we go back and forth And riff and that kind of stuff and that's the show and there's like you know six or seven comics that do that but there's a lot of there's a lot of improvising from me as the host to keep it going and hearing them and that kind of stuff and that's

a different skill as a host so i don't get to do like my act i would say you know ever on that show and that that show takes up a lot of time so when i do do regular sets that's when i'm you know honing my my 15 20 minutes, on a regular show. When I get booked, I'm really, you know, I feel relieved because I'm like, oh, I can actually work on my stand-up right now and not worry about The Basel Show, because when I do that show, it's just, it's a circus and I'm the ringleader and I can get together. Tell us more about the live show while we're talking about it. This show has become quite a thing, or at least, you know, from what I'm seeing.

Yeah, yeah, it's been an event. You got a little thing going on. It's become an event, especially at the Hollywood Improv. We do it once a month there. The live show, you know, branched off of the podcast, Basshole, back in the pandemic when I started the Basshole podcast. I always wanted to do a live show of it. And then as soon as things started opening up from there, I started to develop it at

a couple like little theaters here and there with the format and whatnot. And then, and then once I thought it was ready enough, I brought it to the improv. And then we've been doing it there for about two and a half, almost three years now, I guess. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. So yeah, it's become a, it's become it's become a great event when we have it there.

We have comics come on. They do a three-minute set of whatever they want to do, regular material, crowd work, whatever. And then they have to segue into their asshole story. It's a funny, crazy time that they were an asshole, that they have to explain. And then we judge the story. We pick it apart. We roast them a little bit. And we we judge the story, we pick it apart, we roast

them a little bit, and we kind of go back and forth with them. And it gets a little rowdy sometimes. Everyone's drinking, have a few drinks we've had. And then we have a celebrity judging panel that we have like a combination of comedians, sometimes actors. We've had a lot of porn stars coming on lately, which brings a whole other element to it. Oh yeah, for sure. I love it. It gets a little rowdy with that. So yeah, it's become like a big party. And you know, I mean, people are like, oh, it's kind of like Kill Tony, but it's like

storytelling. I'm like, yeah, it's a little more, I mean, I feel like we're nicer than Kill Tony. It's not a roast show. I mean, we will do a jab here and there, but like, like that's not the focus of it It's more of like, you know Storytelling is a big part of it and like people like telling stories and they don't always have time to do that and their stand-up Set sometimes or it gives them an assignment where it's like, oh, I've never thought about that a time that I was an asshole Okay, let me think and then they write a new, you know piece that they've never thought about it before and it gets a lot Of laughs and it's interesting and it's a story.

So it gives them something else to work on and then a new piece for their comedy repertoire bag or whatnot. And yeah, people really enjoy it and it kind of goes off the walls and you never know where it's going to go. No show is the same. And then we also have the audience involved. We have them on an anonymous piece of paper write down a time that they were an asshole, that we collect the forms, and then I read them throughout the show. Oh, that's fascinating. Yeah, that's great. Involving the audience.

Sometimes people will be like, oh, that was me, and then I'll interview them on the stage and we'll get into their story a little bit. And that keeps them involved and we give out prizes and all that stuff. So it's a fun night. It kind of goes all over the place, but it's a fun night. Yeah. Okay. So tell me some of the celebrities that you've had on judging. Some of the celebrities we've had on judging. We've had Tom Arnold. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, we've had Tom Arnold.

I love Tom Arnold, man. I think he's pretty fucking funny, actually. Tom's great. Tom actually came to Tulsa, Oklahoma with me with the show. Oh, really? Yeah. We went there for the weekend and we did the show and then he headlined that I featured for him for the weekend. So that was a lot of fun having him on board, and he's done the show a couple of times. We've had him.

We've had Mindy Sterling from the Austin Powers movies. Oh, yeah, yeah. We've had Mary Lynn Rice Cub from 24. We've had Jason Nash, who's like a big YouTube guy. OK, I know Jason Nash. Yeah. We've had, who else have we had? Jamie Kennedy has been on, I've had a lot of people.

Jamie Kennedy is fascinating to me. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know him personally? Yeah, I know him, yeah. Yeah, he's fascinating. Like he's, I've, you know, followed him on social media for a while. He's out there sometimes. He's he's out there

His guns on his stuff and he's very funny and entertaining and sometimes controversial which is great, you know, yeah, but he's a great guy Yeah, he's okay. I want to ask you about something. Yeah you So We've been Christy and I have talked about like rock and roll fantasy camp, right? And everybody knows what rock and roll talked about like rock and roll fantasy camp, right? And everybody knows what rock and roll fantasy camp is. Rock and roll fantasy camp, you pay $10,000, you show up in the third bass player from Kiss ends up showing up there and you know, teaching you how to play bass for 15 minutes and then you do a song at the end of the week and everybody gets a videotape that they can share with their friends and on social media.

It's basically a way to go and live out your rock and roll fantasy for a couple of days there is a Comedy fantasy camp also that is out there in LA and I don't know what it was a year ago You started talking about this you had a was it Rob that was it Rob that went there Rob DeNaco there But yeah, he had read the you know advertisement. He was like, oh, that sounds good. This sounds interesting, you know But a buddy of mine Rico he went to it and he's kind of a newer comic, maybe like two years in what not lives out here. He went to it and signed up for it and he came on and pretty much was like, this is this was a scam.

It was a cash grab. You know, it was so unorganized. He, you know, he paid five grand for the thing, you know, and it's and it's pretty much like he would get it He got an email saying like only 15 spots in this camp or whatever That sounds cool, that's that's like Kamala Harris texting me I need 15 more people in your zip code to give me $25 Right. So, I mean he fell for that email or whatever But like, you know, he's like you pay five grand You're supposed to you know work out and write with Adam Carolla J

Leno Alonzo Bowden whoever else they have on this thing And then he get he signs up he gets to it and then there's like 80 people there at the Hollywood Roosevelt or whatever and it's a shit show and You know and I interviewed some other guy this guy Sean Ridgeway Who's a writer and wanted to get him to stand up, and his wife got it for him as a gift, and he paid five grand as well. And there was a writing workshop, the writing workshop never even happened.

They were like three, like the syllabus that I had was like, one of them gave it to me, and it was like, they'd have like open mic from eight to 8.30, and it's like, how do you have 80 people being on open mic? Yeah. And it was like shit you know, they'd have like open mic from eight to eight thirty and it's like, how do you have 80 people being on a mic? Yeah. You know, it was like shit like that.

And then most of it was panels. It would be like Leno up there telling old stories, Corolla kind of rehashing all his stuff that's in his books or on his podcast, stuff that you could watch on YouTube or whatever. Sure. And, you know, these people come out here and there was a thousand dollar extra agency dinner that you can have with industry that people signed up for. A thousand extra dollars to sit with some agents? To have dinner with a couple agents.

And I guess a lot of people signed up for it and it was pretty much agents sitting there and they were talking about football between themselves. And the other thing, it's like, some of these people have never picked up a microphone. Why are they going to meet with an agent? You know what I mean? Sure. Yeah. Even remotely close to doing anything like that. So there was a lot of that kind of stuff. It didn't include included some food. Then they, then they have a show at the Hollywood improv in the middle of the day at like noon. It's a three hour show. Everyone's doing three to five minutes. Um, I was there at the improv. I watched some of it. I's a three hour show. Everyone's doing three to five minutes. I was there at

the improv. I watched some of it. I saw a guy go up there and say two words and freeze and couldn't remember what he was saying. And then you have Caroline Ray yelling off to the side like, like, do you want your notes? Do you want, you know, it's like, it's like, I should have taken a public speaking course at like a local college or something. Adam Corolla was supposed to host the show. He showed up and just judged the show. You had Mike August, his agent hosting the show. I'm like, why is an agent hosting a comedy show? Corolla had shows booked in the San Francisco, the weekend of the camp, you know, and then he shows up late. It was just, it just seemed like all over the place. It's a cash grab. It's over the place. It's a cash grab

It's a shit show. It's a cash grab. Yeah, but I get that look. It's a business There's a lot of scams out there But the problem I had with it is that they advertised it like, you know 15 people only and like, you know Like that's false advertising, you know And like there's a lot of people this this is built, I get it, fantasy camp. It's built for people in the middle of America, you know, Florida, wherever you get away from your wife for the weekend, you know, whatever. It's built for those people that have a dream, that want to hang out with Jay Leno and get

a picture with her or whatever, you know. But then there's a lot of people like here, local comedians that have only been doing it a year or two, that got lumped in and took it and really thought it was a serious writing thing and they were going to learn some stuff. And you know, for $5,000, I would think like, oh, I'm going to have 15 minutes with Jay Leno. He's going to look at my set and like go over it with me. You know what I mean? Absolutely. So that doesn't happen. You know what I mean? So then Corolla is making fun of these people

on his podcast and they got videos of it and all that shit. And it's just like, it's like, it's like why you do, you know, like I know why you're doing it because it's there's money involved, but it's like, comedy is a big enough scam to begin with. You know, you gotta pay for it. You have to go through all this shit to just get on stage sometimes. And now there's another thing that these celebrities are doing that I don't really think is helping people. I mean, I per after interviewing the guy, like I think they're trying to work on it and make it better, which I'll give him the benefit of the doubt they're fixing.

You interviewed the owner or the guy who started the David, David Fischoff, the, uh, he's the creator of the rock fantasy camp, which is very successful. Yeah. And, um, you know, in the interview I go over, I'm like, I understand the fantasy rock camp, and that's been going on for over 20 years. So that's a success. And I understand that that works. Because, you know, we've all wanted to be in a band. These people already play instruments, or dabble in instruments, or can sing or whatever, you know.

No one's under any delusion that you're going gonna learn how to play guitar like Jimmy Page over three days It's never gonna know how to play it before that's right there, or you least know something about it You know comedy is an individual thing you know it's like it's just you up there You know so like how do you how do you how does that even benefit anyone? It's such an individual experience Yes, you know I'm not saying you can't teach comedy You can definitely teach like joke writing and you know performance kind of tips and that kind of stuff, but like for five grand. You felt and what I took away from it and what I agree with and I'm gonna put words in your mouth here, you felt and other people felt that you were that they were dangling a carrot in front of

people. You're gonna sit with some top talent and they're going to give you some advice that is hopefully going to further your career. And what it ended up being was just an unorganized shit show where no one really cared. No one really cared the people in charge and the people who showed up, you know, Corolla who probably got paid $15,000 just to show up in 15 minutes. No one gave a shit about anybody's career. All they cared about was clocking in and clocking out Maybe that's not all they cared about maybe I'm saying things that weren't true

But they didn't have any direction and there was no one they probably understood Corolla understands Mike August understands I know Mike Mike August understands that no one is getting 15 minutes worth of advice and getting a Netflix special It's not gonna happen. No, and it's like I don't know Corolla personally or Mike I've only met David fish offoff, who's the main guy in charge of this thing. So I have nothing bad to say about those guys. But I know Corolla's a partner and I get it as a financial thing.

It's probably easy money for him to do it or whatever. But it's kind of like, it's misleading I think. And they're saying, I did. And, you know, they're saying that I did meet people that took it twice, you know, and I was like, all right, you know, there's definitely people that it's, it's like the people that go to the, the showbiz con or the comic, you know, they're waiting in line to get the autograph and the picture. Yes. The guy who played the villain in this fucking movie or whatever. It's like, you know, and I get that the fans out there, it's those people,

it's for those people. Yeah. I want to come out here for the weekend. They'd never been to LA. They want to sit in a room with Leno and be around Brad Williams or whoever's in it involved in it. And, uh, I get that there's a, was Brad Williams involved in it? Was Brad Williams, they're doing it again in January.

involved in it was president they're doing it again in January so yeah it's for those people and that's where the fantasy comes in and I get that the thing I had with David it was like you're advertising this to regular comics as well so it's like you should have a you should have a process where you're weeding those people out and you're being like you know talk to them and it's like this may not be for you. You know what I mean? Instead of being like, oh, here's my credit card, $5,000, you know? Yeah. If you're not a fan boy, right? If you're not a fan boy or, you know, if you're a struggling comic and $5,000 is like 280 nights, you know,

opening up for the, you know, as the 16th opener at the Hollywood improv on Thursday nights, then maybe $5,000, you spending $5,000 isn't gonna be worth your time. Maybe you should take that $5,000 and go do some more open mics, right? Yeah. And invest in whatever, your website.

Yeah, your own, your brand. But it's like, if I had gotten this as a gift when I was like 18 at a high school and I was like, maybe I wanna go into comedy, that's appropriate. It's like, you don't know anything, You've never done it. You're a kid, you know, yeah, go to LA for four days and fucking, you know, experiment and just take it in. That seems as a graduation gift or something like that. Or you get it for your husband, you know,

like get out of town for a while. You know, you always like comedy. Go try this, you know? But like when people are getting lumped in that are like struggling and doing open mics and you know, they put them in, they're trying to get a refund on their credit card and arguing with credit card companies because of the false Advertising, you know that kind of stuff It's like and then half of the things aren't being fulfilled like there was no writing workshop Like they said that they were gonna have that never happened You know, they were late to the comedy show because you know, like someone was unorganized, you know So there seems to seem very unorganized, the first one, and the second

one. So I don't know. I think they're trying to do better for the third one. We'll see. I don't know. I'm just trying to warn people that may fall into the trap of doing it. If they are a real comic, it's not for professionals or people that are really aspiring to do it, I would say. If you're a fanboy, sure, go ahead and do it. I think you- Or to take things to the next level with your company. And I think you're doing a service to the up and coming comics, the guys out there, you know, the weekend warriors, right?

Who are out there really struggling, really trying to make it work, trying to find their voice, trying to figure it all out. You know, I worked in real estate, Doug, and this reminded me a lot of real estate and I'll explain a lot. Those who can't teach, right? And listen, Carolla's had a huge career. Jay Leno obviously will go down as one of, whether you like his brand of humor or not, he's a standup standup.

He's still doing standup, right? He's still going and doing open mics or whatever he's doing. So there's no arguing with their success, but there's so many people in the real estate industry that will take your $5,000 and they have billions of dollars worth of assets under management or whatever, they'll take your $5,000 for the weekend, they'll put a hundred people that paid $5,000 in a room and they will literally talk sideways to them as if they understand anything about real estate. And the truth is there's only one way to learn in real estate and that's to have money and lose it. Those are the only two ways you get to understand real estate. And the truth is there's only one way to learn in real estate and that's to have money and lose it.

Those are the only two ways you get to understand real estate. And there's no other way to learn it. You cannot go to a weekend seminar and understand how to, and be successful in real estate. You'll never do that ever. And I know that because I worked in real estate and I saw these guys do this. And so, but however, if you have an extra $500,000

sitting in the bank and you want to get some Airbnbs and you want to start your real estate career and you want to meet some people that might know something, sure, spend the $5,000 to go network, right? That might be a worthy... It's for people that have money to throw away and do it for the weekend, you know, like real estate mogul that has money to throw away, like, I love comedy, let me go do it, you know. This guy, David Fischoff, he's a great business guy. I sat down with him, he's a good guy.

I just don't agree with what he's doing. He's the typical character, the Jewish guy that comes in and he's like trying to make deals, do this, do that, running around yelling at everyone. And he's a character, but it's like at the same time, I know what he's doing. It's a smart business thing for him to do. And then I think the rock and roll thing is definitely do it. But like this one, I don't know. I don't agree with it. And like, I might get some flack for just interviewing him.

It's like, you know, it's like, am I throwing Corolla under the bus? Maybe, you know, I don't know, but it's like, I don't know him personally. And, um, you know, it's just my opinion on it. And he, David emailed me two days ago, actually, because I reposted the episode, because I saw that they were advertising for the January camp. I'm going to repost the interview, and I reposted it. And I was like, hey, if anyone's thinking about signing up for this,

I know they're advertising again. Here's the interview, just look at it, you know, before you make the decision or whatever. And then he emailed me, and he was like, Doug, I don't understand why you're bad-mouthing our camp. He's like, I came on the podcast to tell my side of the story. Like what's the prod? Do you have a problem with me? Like why are you, why are you doing, why are you trying to hurt me or something like that? It's like, you're a journalist and you're doing this. And then I journalist, I haven't heard back yet, but I was in, yeah, I'm not a journalist. I'm a podcaster. And as a podcaster, I have an opinion already

going into something, whatever we're talking about. You know? I was trying to look, I would keep it, you know, like even Stevens and I have been talking about it. And you should share with him that I didn't repost me shit talking, I reposted our interview. Yeah, where you defended.

So it's your words, right? So you defended it, and it's your words. And he asked me to come on the podcast. I never reached out and begged him to come on. He emailed me twice trying to get on. He came in. I was like, yeah, absolutely. You know, yeah, I have your side of it. Fine. Whatever. Listen, I don't know Corolla personally either, but I understand, I've listened to enough Corolla to know the guy's a very smart and pragmatic and realistic dude. Like the guy

is in a dumb butt, right? And so he probably knows somewhere down in his heart, this is not for struggling comics. This is for dads who, you know, exactly what you said. Someone has some expendable cash and they want to spend the weekend with Corolla and Jay Leno. And I also don't think Adam knows the extent of like what the advertising is going into, you know, that's all David's doing. So it's like, if he knows that there's a bunch of comics that are really, you know, getting lumped in there and getting ripped off, he might have a different thought on it. And I like Adam's comedy in his podcast. So it's like, I have nothing bad to say about him. I Joe Rogan, Adam Carolla, or the commercial break?

Adam's been doing it before it was a thing. Oh yeah. I think he takes the cake on that. Are we lumping in unaired stuff that we just reported? Technical difficulties that Doug Bass. Adam had to start his right after Howard Stern, he took over for Stern and then that got canceled or whatever and then he started his podcast. And you know who else was one of the first podcasters?

Adam Curry. Do you remember Adam Curry from MTV? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The VJ from MTV. He is one of the, I think very few people know this, but Adam Curry is actually, was one of the founding Curry was one of the people that started podcasting. He's like the grandfather of podcasting, and no one knows that. Adam fucking Curry. I think if the story goes correctly, that he actually went to Steve Jobs and they had

a conversation about being the caretaker of the RSS feed. And Steve agreed. And that's how Apple podcasts became kind of the, that's what a podcast is. Apple podcast, right? The guy pod podcast. And so Adam Curry, what's that? Yeah, he did. And so, uh, Doug Bass, good friend of the show, Doug. It's so good to see you.

Doug Bass, Bass Hole is a podcast. It's on what? About once a week. It's on every week. Um, you can follow us on Instagram at Bass hole show the YouTube channel is at bass hole show that's where the full video experience is and Yeah, once a week and we have the live shows at the Hollywood improv and hopefully coming to a city near you wherever you guys listen Follow us and support the show. Thanks for having me. Well, that would be great

And if you ever come to Atlanta word there and you're welcome back on the show anytime We'll catch up with you. Maybe in a couple. We'll touch base with you and see how rock and roll fantasy came number three. We interviewed Brad Williams. I'm just shouting and I love Brad. Brad was great. He comes back, but I didn't get the sense that Brad was hurting for capital. I don't know how they spin it to these comics either. And look, at the same time, if someone's like, hey, we'll give you a five grand to come in for three hours. Exactly. I would do it.

Exactly. You want to do podcast fantasy camp? I don't think I'm going to be doing any offers anytime soon after interviewing this guy. Well, listen, I think you're just sharing your point of view and your perspective as a comic. I like to do pieces that are interesting and have some meaning to them. You did. Instead of just, you know, you know, you're just sharing your point of view and your perspective as a comic. I like to do pieces that are interesting and have some meaning to them instead of just the willy-nilly. I got so fascinated. I got so wrapped up in this little story that everyone was telling. I was sharing it with Chrissy. So Doug Bass Hall, go see it live. Check it out on

YouTube. Check it out on Instagram and check it out on the RSS check it out on the RSS feed. Thanks Doug for coming. Thanks Doug. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Doug. Are you lonely, depressed, listless, feeling silly? Call TCB at 212-433-3TCB to get advice on your most difficult life circumstances. That advice will probably be bad, but that's okay. Call today.

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a few questions lined up. I always feel like I have the best of intentions to do Ask TCBs and then I never remember that when we desperately need content, we can always go to the Ask TCB handbook as we do this episode, as we do this show 50,000 times a year. Okay, great to have Doug Bass on the show. I appreciate his opinion as kind of a guy with his ear to the ground. I think it would be a fun job to be a bartender at a comedy club. Oh yeah. I thought the same thing when he said that he was a bartender. I was like, oh, that would be fun. I think it would be a lot of fun, especially in one of those LA like noted comedy clubs where you really see a lot of the up and coming folks, but then you also see

the heavy hitters. I follow that comedy store and the, you know, improv, the Hollywood improv. I follow those and then I always see that like super famous comedians show up in a room full of 15 people and do a four-hour set. Yeah, they're trying out their new stuff. Why am I never the guy that's there when they're doing a... The only guy that I've seen do any kind of workout material was Pete Davidson, and he ended up in rehab directly after he did that. I guess I wasn't seeing the best that Pete had to offer. Though I will say he was really funny. I found him to be really funny, actually. I didn't know what to expect with Pete, but

then when Pete got up on stage, he was like surprisingly funny. I laughed through the entire thing. So great to have Doug on and see. Yes, thank you, Doug. Yeah, thanks, Doug. I think that most comedians that I've seen at least, and maybe this is just my own personal like echo chamber that I live in on social media, but most comedians seem to feel the same way, the ones that I follow at least about this. I was listening to Gianmarco Sorici, who's going to come back on the show shortly, but I was listening to Gianmarco Sorici kind of give his opinion on Tony Hageglyph's rant.

And I think he shared a very similar opinion, which is you're not at a comedy club working this out. You're putting yourself directly in the spotlight. And there are consequences to things that you say in those situations. Like you go to a comedy club and you're working out that material and you say something off color or offensive. I think we can all understand that you're at a comedy club. The hope is that you're going to be funny, but if you're offensive, well, you know, you're just doing a

set in front of 30 people, right? But then when you stand up in front of 19, 20,000 people, it's not a comedy club. There's no expectation that you're going to do a comedy set. And by the way, the Trump camp knew exactly what they were going to get with Tony Hinchcliffe. I don't think anybody, it's like Doug said, I don't think that he went up there without anybody reading the material that he was going to share. There's just no way. How is it that they picked him? Here's my opinion. Here's my opinion.

Okay. And so I don't want to hear any flack. Actually, our audience is fantastic. They don't give us a lot of flack when we tend to veer off on some of this stuff. But let me share my opinion. Joe Rogan has said on his podcast that he believes that Trump should hire comedians to write jokes for him during his rallies. Because in my estimation, Rogan thinks that Trump can kind of go off the handle sometimes, you know, two hours, three hour long rallies, or he's kind of, you know, muddling about.

Like he says, he's doing the weave. He's doing the weave for like three hours at a time. Kind of going off. And Joe said, has said a couple of times on his show that I saw in a clip, he said that he thought Trump should hire some of these comedians, like Tony Hinchcliffe, to write some jokes for him and do some roasting and stuff like that up during his rallies. So I think that maybe somebody in the camp thought, let's take that advice and let, and also you have Harris who's bringing Beyonce. I mean, we just go to Samuel L. Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen. You're bringing all of these noted celebrities up.

And I think the Trump camp felt like, let's lean into the celebrities who appreciate our point of view, which is Carl Kogan and Tony H. And Giuliani. And Giuliani. And Giuliani. Why you would choose to have Giuliani?

I know. I know. At the S.G. Valley after all that has been said about Giuliani, all the things that Giuliani, whatever, America's mayor. God, the mighty of falling. Oh man, what a hero that guy was right after 9-11. I remember thinking to myself, like, wow, just what a great job Giul guy was right after 9-11. I remember thinking to myself, like, wow,

just what a great job Giuliani is doing after 9-11. Yeah, did he win like a Nobel Peace Prize or something? God, God. And then he's at the Four Seasons landscape doing that fucking press conference. Oh my God, what a ton of fun. Aw, well thank you to Doug. Well, thank you to Doug. Yeah, thank you to Doug.

Thanks for coming in and sharing your perspective. I appreciate it. Doug Bass, I'm a basshole. You can catch it on the podcast if you're in the LA area and apparently other places. Yeah, you talked about going to Oklahoma City. Yeah, he was in Omaha or something like that, Omaha, Nebraska or something. He went to Omaha, Nebraska with Tom Arnold. Yeah, he was in Omaha or something like that. Omaha, Nebraska, he went to Omaha, Nebraska with Tom Arnold. Yeah. Tom Arnold's another one who had no pupils from like 21 to 42 years old. But I think he's been sober for like 20 years or something like that.

But I heard that guy was fucking wild back in the day. Wild when he was like married to Roseanne. Oh, I wish I could get Tom Arnold to come on the show and tell a few stories. That would be fun. That would be awesome. I actually think they offered us Tom Arnold one time. Really? Yeah, I should have said yes.

Yeah. Maybe we can circle that back. Maybe we'll circle back on that one. Anyway, go check out Basshole. It's wherever you're listening to this podcast, you can find it. You can also catch him on the socials. And if you're in the LA area or other places check out the live show there you go once a month at the Comedy Store

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