The Commercial Break - TCB Infomercial: Drew Lynch

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

TCB Infomercial w/ Drew Lynch EP #834: Drew Lunch has an amazing story! His rise to comedy is unlike any other. He was involved in a softball related accident (no joke) that left him with neurological damage and a stutter. However, a few years later, Drew found himself runner-up on AGT and millions of followers later, he one of the most popular stand ups on stage in 2025. Drew joins Bryan and Krissy fresh off a club gig that left one man almost dead. If not for the quick actions of the audience and Drew, the fan would not be here today. The conversation starts with this story and goes places that, even for TCB, is insightful and pressing. Drew's LINKS: Drew's Tour Dates ⁠Follow him on Instagram⁠ ⁠His New Special! Watch EP #834 with Drew Lunch on YouTube Text us or leave us a voicemail: [phone]TCB FOLLOW US: Instagram:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thecommercialbreak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/thecommercialbreak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@tcbpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.tcbpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ CREDITS: Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bryan Green⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ &⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Krissy Hoadley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Bryan Green Producer: Astrid B. Green Voice Over: Rachel McGrath TCBits: Written, Performed and Edited by Bryan Green To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So when someone tells me, I do, I react like I didn't know. There was a guy who came up like, hey man, you were stuttering up there. I was just, I was like, what? How bad is that? It was like it's, it's pretty bad. I was like, this is, this is just the worst news. You know, it's, it's, it's hard enough being black. Hey, it was like, you're, you're not black.

I was like, I was like, what? How bad is that? On this episode of the commercial break. It's unlike anything I had really ever seen where we all just kind of waited and yet still work together to just be present for what had to happen. And he was dead. He had no pulse for over five minutes. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm getting emotional thinking about it because, you know, it's

just how fast and silently, silently, everybody's just kind of working. I mean, it was like you were, it was like an operating table. I mean, it was genuinely like an operating table where people are just kind of, no fat, there's no fat that's happening in the communication. It's just, this is what we need, this is how we're doing it. It was efficient. None of these people knew each other. There was no egos.

There's no identities or anything. Everybody just kind of put all that aside. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, yeah, cats and kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co-hosts of this show, Chris and Joy Haudley. Best to you, Chris.

Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for joining us on a TCB infomercial. Tuesday with very popular comedian Drew Lynch. He is a, I think it was, did he win AJT? A.J.T. The AJC. He was a runner up in season number 10 of America's Got Talent now with over three million YouTube subscribers, couple million social media followers.

I don't know how many has on TikTok because I haven't checked TikTok in two years. He's got his new special. He's got a new special. That's right. It's called The Stuttering Comedian out on YouTube for free. And he is, of course, a stand-up comedian. So that means he's on the never-ending tour, as most of our guests are. Drew Lynch.com is where you can find more information about tickets.

We'll talk to him all about that. I will share this with the audience. I think I may have said this maybe one other time on the commercial break, probably long ago. And Chrissy knows this about me. Some people know this about me. But one of the reasons why I like Drew, why I feel, why I felt some kinship with Drew and started paying attention to him is because he is a stutterer and I was a stutterer. Or I am a stutterer at times I stutter. And you will probably hear that on the commercial break.

You might pick up on it now. But it's a problem I kind of licked as a child by through speech therapy and some other things that I can do to kind of calm my brain down a little bit. I really think that it's because my brain moves so fast. My mouth can't keep up with it. I just trip over myself. Definitely. It could be the culprit. Yeah.

But when you are stuttering, when you are having a stuttering moment or when you are stuttering as a child, it's not an easy thing to deal with. It's a lot of stress on the body. It's a lot of stress on the mind. And then you feel like you want to say something, but it's just not coming out quite correctly. Now, my stutter was never as pronounced as juries. Drew's stutter is, and Drew has completely different circumstances where mine came about...

Yes, less than an injury. Yeah, mine came about when I started speaking, and, you know, my parents noticed at whatever age, and I ended up in speech therapy. Drew got in a terrible softball-related accident, and that accident caused damage to the left side of his brain, I believe, and then that caused him to have a stutter as long as some other mental health challenges and just some general neurological stuff. Drew has been very open about this and I think that probably is the reason

not only is he funny but also I think part of the reason why he's become so popular is because he's been very honest and refreshingly open about And now I love that I do too I think it takes a really brave human to kind of pull

I mean the other thing about a stutter Well in this world of making everything perfect That's right you're right about that Yeah and the thing about a stutter is It's hard to cover up Especially when you have a bad one when it's very pronounced It's hard to cover up And the more that it happens

The more you start tripping over yourself The more stress you get involved in The more your brain doesn't want to cooperate With your mouth That must be very difficult But in this time of trying to make everything pretty And perfect Exactly all the social media

I mean Yeah and you know Occasionally I'll see like a bathing suit model With like you know A birth mark on her butt And she'll be like I want to show everybody Life is real

It's like okay you have a birthmark on you But fucking cares Yeah You know I appreciate that you're coming out honestly but then the 7,000 other photographs are perfectly manicured photographs of you in front of a palm tree. That's not what I'm talking about.

Drew puts it all out there. It's like, you know, refreshingly out there, and I hope we get some of that today when we talk to him. Drew Lynch.com, the Stuttering Comedian on YouTube now available. Go buy tickets. You can follow them on social media.

All the links will be in the show notes, Chrissy, because that's how we roll, just like every other podcast that has ever been. There's something called show notes in case you don't know. They're right under the show. They're notes. And I put links in there for you to go check out the shit that we're doing or our guests are doing. And Drew is one of those people.

And I want to ask him right off the bat. We'll go right into it because he had something very interesting happen to him in one of his more recent shows. A man had a heart attack. I saw that. And it really seemed to affect Drew emotional. He got emotional about it on a reel. So go check out his Instagram. you can maybe during the commercial break, listen to the commercials while you're watching Instagram,

and you can catch up on this story at Drew Lynch, and then there you go. So why don't we do this, Chrissy? Why don't we take a short break, just a little break? A little baby, a tiny break, as my daughter would say. Tiny, a tiny break. And then when we get back through the magic of telepodcasting right here on this television with us, Drew Lynch. What do you think? I think we should do it.

Okay, we'll be back with Drew. Hey, it's Rachel, your new voice of God here on TCB. And just like you, I'm wondering just how much longer this podcast can continue. Let's all rejoice that another episode has made it to your ears, and I'll rejoice that my check is in the mail. Speak in a mail, get your free TCB sticker in the mail by going to TCB Podcast.com and visiting the contact us page. You can also find the entire commercial break library, audio and video,

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We really appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Yeah. I want to start off, maybe on a little bit more of a serious note, but I want to throw this out there. A couple of days ago, you had something that happened at one of your shows. A man had a heart attack, I believe. Yeah, yeah, in Spokane, Washington. Wow.

And I have been following you on socials for a while. and I saw a video come up and I thought, oh, here he's going to do, you know, here it comes funny, coming in hot with something funny. And then it was very serious and you were very, it seemed like very touched by the moment when the man, I guess, had a heart attack and people around him gathered together to make sure that he survived the incident. But then you went to the hospital and spent some time with him. Yeah.

Well, yeah, I would love to be able to get into it. And honestly, anytime we can start a podcast sad, I'm always a. fan. Yeah, me too. It gives us a place to go. You don't even know, Drew. This is pretty, this is a pretty standard fair for Brian. I'll quote Ram Dass later on. Yeah, most of my podcasts are really like just bummers. And people, and people are into it. People are like, I love it's so edgy, it's different. He's not funny at all. I really like that type of not funny comedian. Drew just saves lives for a living. That's what he does. Yeah, that's, yeah, I'm actually just better. I'm a healer with my, with my body and mind. That's what I do.

I'm so good. I'm so good I don't even need comedy. That's how good I am at it. Okay, yeah. So, well, yeah, well, first of all, it was something that, you know, coming off of the past, I guess, week or two, I mean, tensions everywhere with everything, how upset everyone has been. And it's not even a thing, like, I mean, you just, like, it was really like last week kind of the new. of last week, compounded news from last week, multiple things happening, rolling into just this, this weekend, and you're like, you know, I mean, what, I was on, I was maybe on my on stage

for maybe 12, 15 minutes or so. And, and, um, there was a lady who from across the room kind of made a beeline towards the other side of the room to kind of help this guy. and then and you just kind of everything is just very slow motion in that time you're not really able to process everything as fast you're just kind of like oh she's how she's she's she's leaving and you're like no she's she's tending to a guy wait how does she know that guy and then you're like what's going on with the guy and then he's on he's on the floor and people are all the sudden like when you watch people like just kind of react and then just continue to react as the stakes get higher and higher as everyone else is is is realizing what's happening. It's a very, like, shocking thing. It's very shocking. And so he had a heart attack, and that was what someone had communicated to me, and in no time at all. Like, just the crowd didn't know every person in the audience. They didn't hesitate at all to understand what needed to happen.

And so in that interim, people just kind of fell into roles of, like, people move furniture. there were some there were medical professionals and nurses just in the area who took took turns doing taking compressions on this guy doing CPR monitoring is vitals people got immediately someone called paramedics then someone was parked out right right where the paramedics could show up and so I'm making announcements to like to have someone clear the car and like move the move the car and and and it's unlike anything I had really ever seen where we all just kind of wait and yet still work together to just be present for what had to happen. And he was dead.

He had no pulse for over five minutes. I mean, I'm getting emotional thinking about it because, you know, it's just how fast and silently, silently, everybody's just kind of working. I mean, it was like you were, it was like an operating table. I mean, it was genuinely like an operating table where people are just kind of no fat. There's no fat that's happening in the communication. It's just this is what we need. this is how we're doing it.

It was efficient. None of these people knew each other. There was no egos. There's no identities or anything. Everybody just kind of put all that aside. And so when they revived him, prior to the paramedics even arriving, it was one of the just most like, I guess just all-inspired things I've ever been able to witness just the beauty of a community and a mechanism kind of, you know, just coming to.

together, you know, to achieve this. And so his family told me, like, he left his walker there. He needed a walker, and he obviously left his walker because he left with the paramedics. And so the club gave me the contact of his granddaughter. And so I was like, okay, they were like, we're going to, she's going to come by and grab the walker tomorrow. And I was like, no, no, no, no, like, I'll bring him the walker. I would love to be able to go to visit him in the hospital and, you know, finish the, finish the show or just cheer them up, you know, anyway.

So, so, so, so, you know, the, the, I, I asked, they gave me her number. I said, I would love to be able to sign his walker, so I'll sign it. And can you just tell me his name and I'll sign it and bring it to him tomorrow? And then she texted me and said, oh, he would love that. His name is Dick. And I, and, you know, normally under the circumstances, like, if you're in a meet and greet line or something like this. didn't happen tonight you're like oh that's silly i'll make a funny thing and it'll be you know

whatever but under the circumstances i can't be like you know like you know like you know i i love you dick you know in the droolet like you know to my to my dearest dick you know my second favorite dick like you know it's like you know it's just so so i just signed it and then you know we brought it to the we brought it to the hospital and um and my my my two openers my funny friends came with me to also be there and the family was there and we were just in the hospital for just hours just hanging out with him and i'm sorry i took so long to tell this the whole story um it's um and so it was just uh it was just beautiful and as it pertains to how things have been happening in the world it just kind of in re-invited the idea of hope uh kind of just knowing that

all right who cares however people feel and people and people who come see me it's they come from all different types of backgrounds like there's not any one type so the fact that everybody just kind of put all that together just for humanity's sake was very very special to to witness i think two things that i took away from the series of videos that you put out over the last couple of days because very similar to the one the story that you just told is that we look at all the tragedy around us and the heartbreak and the and the terrible things that are happening and bad news sells so that's what they lead with and that's what we hear and that's their job and that you know they whatever that's a business but what we don't see in all of that

oftentimes what gets missed in those stories the school shooting or the shooting or whatever happens is that there are little moments of absolute um sovereignty to the human beings that are are having that tragedy as we just that's just how we're built and i've i've been i worked the rest of our business when multiple people had heart attacks. I've seen bad car accidents where people, maybe myself included, jumped in without speaking to each other to just do what needed to be done because we, I think somewhere in the back of our heads, that's how we're built. But I also think somewhere in the back of our heads, we pray or meditate or whatever it is that someone else would do that for us if that was our moment or our tragedy. But then you

took it the extra step and literally went to the hospital. and finish your show, which I thought was a very beautiful thing to do. And I know you're not doing that to look for accolades. But I will say that it was very touching to see you up there having fun with this guy. Well, thanks. But yeah, he, I mean, he's just a special person. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm, like, they've got a trip plan to Montana and he's going to, he's going, he's going, he's got trip, he's got, he's got, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, he's been a speech therapist for, you know, for, for, for, for 50 years and in his in his community yeah yeah so so like you know that was how that was why he was

there to see me is like you know I I've had a history of stuttering and he's somebody who's like you know like just once he's just a he is just a person that just invites like just like warmth and help and support like you just meet people that are just really special people and he was just, like, I was there to just kind of hear and learn more about him and really just kind of confront him to see if, like, he just, you know, pretended to die to get out of listening to the rest of my set, which is not uncommon for me. It's not uncommon. We get those texts all the time.

Sorry, I'm dead. Yeah. And he committed, too. And I was like, this hospital bill is going to be exorbitant. But, like, if that's how much you hated my show, just. tell me. Wow. You and, you know, you are, have been very open. Obviously, you were on AGT. You've been very open. And I think, to your credit, about your stutter and your speech issues, I also was a stutterer as a child. I think that's probably why I enjoy your comedy and I'm, I have a connection

there. There's a, you know, we share something in common there. The struggle. My, my not, I think as pronounced as yours, but I guess it doesn't matter at the end of the day everyone's struggle is relative. But you have leaned into this and you have really, I think probably, do you, here's my question. Do you get a lot of people that come up to you that go to your shows and they have similar issues or they're dealing with something and they say, because you're doing it, now I'm not afraid to do this. Yeah, I think it happens, I mean, almost, I mean, almost every place on that. I mean, it's, it's, and it's not just about the thing itself, it's about the fact that, I mean, kind of to the same degree of how we even started this podcast, it's like, it's about the adversity that anybody has underneath. Like it's, it's, there's, we all have something. Everybody has something. And if it's a, if it's a, if how, if you're financially like, debilitated or your, you're, or you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, or with your family or, or, or, or something. or mentally or socially, there's always just something.

So it's, and, and, and, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the idea that I think I, I, uh, I always want to be, I always want to be up front. I always want to be transparent about whatever's going on with me, about what issues it is that I'm, that I'm having and not to do, not to say as what was me, but just to show you that I'm human. And, um, and, and, and, um, there's, just for whatever reason that's actually been one of the things that's helped me the most about stuttering is just by saying like I'm afraid I'm afraid right now I'm scared I'm scared that you're judging me I'm scared that I'm not going to like that this isn't going to go good or I'm scared that you think that that I'm that I'm a fraud or I'm scared that you think that that that I can't come back from

this or that you think this is my whole identity or or that that that I'm that I'm that my problems don't, that pale in comparison to maybe something that you're going through. Even when I did America's Got Talent, like, I was receiving messages from people who were like, hey, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm in my, you know, my fifth round of chemo right now, and I don't know what, I don't have a whole lot of time, but I'm, I'm, and I'm yucking out, I'm yucking out the, you know, the rounds of chemo here in the hospital, but I'm watching you and I can't wait to see it next week. And like, this type of stuff just, you know, it, it makes it not about you at all.

And that is a healthy reminder because I, I, you know, like I struggle with ego of just being like, well, how about, like, well, how about for me? Like, what I mean, I enough. And what about how does this apply for how I'm doing and can it, can it elevate what I'm doing in a way? And like, even how it happened with Spokane this past weekend, it's just a healthy reminder that actually the best part of things is oftentimes when it has nothing to do with you. nothing about you. It's it's about what it is that you can, you, you can offer or what can be

offered and has nothing to do with you. So, um, so I think just trying to, trying to connect to people, even to, you know, relating to somebody who also stutters, but just relating to somebody who, you know, could, could be embarrassed or ashamed or angry or has, or has grief or feels remiss. Like, these are all things that come with the feelings of when you're, when you're dealing with adversity. So at a very real level, you know, comedy kind of is, is there to just escape or help or support or relate. It's diffuse, yeah. You gave me chills when you said I'm scared, right? Like, I'm scared. Because I think that if we all were brave enough at times to just call that out, I'm scared. I'm scared of whatever it is, right? I'm scared of getting

hurt. I'm scared of failing. I'm scared of you're judging me. I'm scared of if we were a little bit more vulnerable in that way to each other and just to the world in general, maybe the world would be just a little bit of a softer place than it is right now. Everyone's got pointy elbows and you know, I'm tough and I'm bad, I'm this and I'm that. But you just said something like it literally gave me chills. I'm scared. It's okay to be scared. Everybody's fucking scared. Everybody's scared. I'm scared to interview Drew Lynch. I'll say it. And he called it out. We're financially debilitated, Chrissy. We are financially debilitated. Two for two.

And I am a scary guy, and I want that to be the narrative. I'm formidable. Where did you, what, comedy, where does that, like, are you always looking for the joke? Are you, when you're a kid, were you, like, always looking for the funny somewhere? I think my family is just, I think my family is really funny. I think my sister is just so funny. Like, I mean, she doesn't, she's just like a, like, my family's just very, um, subdued sort of Midwest, kind of just thrown away, just thrown away type comments, you know, just things that it's

like, if you hear it and, and you, and you process it, it was like, oh, that was a very funny thing that, that nobody may be heard or nobody really, you know, that's just kind of how my family always was. And, um, and so I never wanted to do stand up. I, I, I grew up, um, I, I grew up, um, studying acting and I went to performing art schools all growing up and I met, like I read plays just like a mad person when I was a kid because I was just so passionate about, about dialogue and I actually prefer plays to books because you're just, you're able to fill in the, you're just given the dialogue and you're able to fill in whatever else needs to happen. Like it's just, there's something so, there's just something so quick about just this, this, this,

this, this, and building, like, conflict. And maybe that has some sort of influence on, on me ending up, doing stand-up. But, you know, I had a softball injury when I was 20, as you know, Brian. And it missed, yeah. I do know about those softball injuries. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, you know, it messed with my speech and my motor skills on the left side of my body.

And I couldn't get hired as an actor anymore when I was out here in my first year in L.A. And so that was what kind of turned me to to start doing stand-up is I still loved performing. I just couldn't, couldn't, I just didn't have the opportunity to anymore. And stand-up really offers the, it really offers that for you to be able to kind of control as much as you, as much as you can from the writing and performing standpoint. Were you like a David Mamet kind of, is that the kind of? I read it. I mean, I read it all. Yeah, I read it all.

I read Mamet. I read Tennessee Williams. I read Neil Simon. I love Neil Simon's plays. You know, I, Neil Lebutte. I, uh, Martin, Martin, Martin, Martin McDonough. Like, I mean, I just, I read it all. So, you know, these are all things that like, uh, I just, and I still love it.

And I still, I still, you know, love getting to act whenever I, whenever I can. now you are an incredibly popular comedian you're traveling i imagine the world um and like you said you this was not your this is not your intention this isn't where you started but you you know are obviously naturally funny you're very gifted and talented comedian do you love the grind of being out there and traveling and the audience and i'm sure the stage part everybody loves right that hour that you're out there absorbing and interacting. I'm sure that is always the zenith.

But do you like being a stand-up comedian, kind of the journeyman part of it? Yeah. First of all, I love when anybody can casually use the word zenith. And just think that we weren't going to acknowledge it. Cissy, that was nuts that you and I just were going to let Brian just say it.

Oh, that's why Chrissy sits next to me is because I often will misuse big words and Chrissy just lets it fly. And then the audience calls it out later. Can we actually cut to commercial on the commercial, can we go, can we go somewhere else and then come back?

You can, but I need some time. There are your sponsors on this episode. Okay. We're at the Zina of this episode. Financially crippled, once again. We're all dealing with something. Yes. So, you know, I, the, the, the, any comic will tell you that the, the, the, the, the,

the grind of, of, of, of going to do the thing, I mean, is really, you. It can really great on you. And you have to, like, I can't, I know, I know, I know Howie Mandel. He once told me, he was like, you know, he was like, it's like, I don't know. I don't even want to know my plans, my travel plans until the day of. Like, all of his team books it and lets him know you're going there like that morning or the night before. So he doesn't have to, yeah. So he doesn't have to.

like stress or worry or try to plan or try to like that type of stuff is stuff that I completely understand because you're really paying us to leave that's what you're doing that's what you're paying for we'll perform anywhere but you're paying us it's the travel the part that that that is just such the hassle so um it I've I've abused my own um time and taking advantage of my own work ethic in a way where I don't hold myself accountable for the balance that's needed for the play and the fun and the living and all of that has been something I've only learned to manage better maybe more recently. I just, when I first started, I was so hell-bent on trying to do anything to validate my own feelings or success to try to make sense.

of this injury that I just worked myself to death and I completely dismissed the idea that I maybe needed to do some things from my soul or take away to relax so it's I think there's the common this common misconception that comedy is just all it's all fun

it's all silly and we're all just and it's like I mean some of us are that way and and but but now and especially in the fast paced climate of social media and using it as a tool and algorithms and and branding and all this like you have to be you have to have many hats you have to have many hyphens and you have to be able to do so many other so much more than just what it was 20 years ago where it was like I sit and I write and I go up and what do you want you know like so so it's it's it's it's just this this idea of holding your your any

entrepreneur probably already has, knows this or has to come to realize this. If you don't discipline yourself to shut your brain off, you're going to completely, you're going to completely run yourself into the ground by just by having your brain be a very abusive employer to your own self. And that's the problem. I think I think I'm a really good employee. I think I'm a terrible employer. So what are some of the things you do to kind of tune out or play? Do you, of course, the housewives, do you ground? We were talking about grounding earlier. Do you ground?

Do you take your socks off? A lot of the, both of those at the same time, honestly, Chrissy. It's the housewives and then the socks are off. Get a Chardonnay in my hand. I'm a sassy bitch. Mine's a bubble bath with the TV just a little bit too close in case I decide to commercial just not working out. That's it.

Yeah, you got the iron going too. You're like, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I, I, I've done a lot of, I've tried a lot of different holistic modalities and approaches. We're all kind of in the process of healing or finding a thing that, that works for you. Mushroom cacao ceremony with a Ruvian shaman. That's it.

Let's dance over the fire. I just got, I just got back last weekend. Yes, you did. Did you? Did you do that? I did. Yeah, yeah. It's not my first. This is not my first rodeo with this, too. I mean, Iowa was all nine yards. How do you feel? How do you feel? I felt like this one was very, I'll put it this way. It was a very gentle experience, but this was truly not Peruvian. She was Guatemalan, like a Mayan, an actual Mayan, which I learned that the Aztecs are a dead culture, but the Mayans are in a live culture. They very much still celebrate it at the pyramids. They're allowed to go there. They do their ceremonies. They're still. very active and she came and blessed us all with a mushroom cacao ceremony and i will say it was a

gentle experience as these things go but you always learn something and we were in a larger group of people and just like the sharing the experience and everyone kind of letting and letting out what they were dealing with at that moment you then again it brings you closer to your own humanity you know it's kind of like the wizard of oz and walking the yellow brick road i think is the way i explained it at the end of the night but of course then i just did a mushroom cacao ceremony ceremony. But I said, listening to everybody else, you know, I got strength. I got strength like the tin man. I got the heart and I got the brain from the other folks around me sharing with their struggles and what they needed. And, you know, and I've done a number of these things

in the past, a lot of them in the past. And so, you know, I can see the hoakiness in it, but then I also always take something away from that. Sure. There's nothing hokey about it. And I appreciate the history that you just shared about the difference between Aztecs and Mayans. I didn't that. Although I, yeah, I, I, I, I've, I watched the, the road to El Dorado about once a year, just to kind of bro, just to kind of brush up. So I also, I already feel like I already kind of knew what you said anyway. Um, um, it's a, but, but, you know, it's a zenith. Anyway, um, it's a zenith. That's really what it is, the Mayans and the Aztecs. They're the zenith. Um, to answer your question, um, um, Chrissy, I, um, like, I, I was fascinated with the psychedelics of it all because last year it was the first, first time I did my, I, I had an experience. I had a psychedelic experience. I was, um, um, in the kitchen back, um, back home, um, with my, with my, with my, with my, with my, with my, with my brother. And, um, he and I, interestingly enough, we had been

reading the same books, but unbeknownst to each other, which I always find to be like, so interesting and you know my my you know my you know my dad he's he was diagnosed with stage four brain cancer sometime late last year and i only bring that up to say you know like you know it put into perspective just a little bit of you know what what am i doing with my life that's that that's that's that's what am i clinging to you know my my dad's you know he has always had just a struggle in his relationship with control. I know my brother's the same way. I feel like I'm the same way.

And psychedelics are pretty much the ultimate kind of like there's go bust. You don't have, yeah, yeah, you don't, exactly. You don't have, yeah, you don't have any control. And so the idea that it was, the idea that my brother was kind of hovering around this, this same concept of maybe wanting to do something like that. And then me also doing that, but but unbeknownst to, but also doing our own research, but unbeknownst to each other, we kind of agreed, we kind of agreed that night that we would, we would, we would try, we would try something together. And so there was, you know, he said, have you

ever, yeah, he said, have you ever heard of, you know, DMT, and DMT, you know, and I was like, yeah, I mean, I, yeah, I mean, I have. Of course, it's terrifying. shit, you jumped over every avenue on the monopoly board and went straight to go. That is the most intense psychedelic hallucinogen that you could possibly do. Oh, it's, I mean, I'll be, I'll be, we've already been as candid as we have up to this point. So I'll be completely honest. I, it was either between doing, it was between quitting comedy or quitting life. or this um that's how much that's and that's and that's there's there's no uh that's like a um

it was almost like a kid way of saying that but there i mean i was uh i was just yeah i was just at a place where it was like i i i just i can't i can't i can't do this anymore and something else needs to change and that i think would would speak to how how desperate i was because the idea of relinquishing control in a way that it meant that I would have to completely throw myself into the most uncontroll where you have nothing, you know, is absolutely like, absolutely an indicative of what it was like going through that at that time. So we found a, we found a shaman and we did the experience. Iowaska or DMT. DMT.

And, and then I went back and did it a month later, which you're not really supposed to do. And then a week later, after that second experience, I did a large dose of shrooms. And it's probably a conversation for maybe another time, but quite a few things came to light for, I guess, lack of a better term. And it just, it changed everything about how I felt about myself, how I felt. about my relationship to stuttering. I know my, my speech improved even that much. In between the two times that I did DMT, my stutter came back in such a way that it was like,

I mean, it almost like it set me back in such a way. Like I was having full, like, body kind of things. My head would kind of like just go back. And I couldn't control it because I had spent years trying to suppress once again. Like even though my speech was getting better over the years, I was suppressing the idea that I needed to get it to be said in an exact certain way and control it and doing so much tension in my body and in my face and in my mind evaluating how everybody was feeling about it all the time. And this medicine basically showed me like, you know, like I'm going to take that away from you.

I'm going to have this medicine come all the way through your body and break you all the way back down to where you were years ago. and show you that, um, that you, you can't, like, you can't care about any of that. And that's, that's, and Brian, you, you probably already have known this maybe in your own experience, experiences. But the relationship to stuttering is so, it's such a, it's such a, like, snake eating itself because it's like, the more you try to control it, it's like, the worse it gets. And, and, and it's, and it's, and it's like, the more you try to think about it, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't think your way out of a situation. where your brain is the culprit.

So you have to, it's like Chinese finger trap. You have to almost like relinquish that control somehow in order for it to get better. And so that was something that those three experiences really taught me. And it does, it does, it does just wonders for anybody who's at that, who's at that, at that, at that crossroads. Or definitely believers. I'm a believer fully. And my relationship with stuttering, you know, a lot of speech therapy when I was kid, it comes out occasionally, thinking about having a stutterer on the show freaks me out

because then I feel like somewhere in my brain it's going to come out. It's a weird thing that I don't feel often, but when I feel it, I get fearful. And just like you said, then it becomes about control, controlling the mind, controlling the mouth, controlling the, just the breathing. But ayahuasca, which is the active ingredient DMT is in ayahuasca, being in that ceremony, there is no explanation in words that could ever that I could ever share with anybody who's never done it to tell them what it's all about. All I can say is you die a million deaths and they're all ego driven. You're completely out of control. You're out of body. You are in another universe and something else is in control. Some call it the, you know, some call it the God psychedelic,

right? Because you're essentially you're touching the face of God in a way that. That is just amazing. There is lessons in all of it. And some of those lessons seem like they set, in my experience, seem like they set you back. But then with some perspective, you understand, it's just showing you that you're not in control. You're not in control. You're here. You're experiencing.

You're the witness, but you're not in control. And that is fucking okay. That is okay. I think it all goes back to what you said earlier. It's okay to be scared. It's okay. It's okay to be fearful. It's okay to have, you know, to just share that.

I didn't know this about you, Drew, but I really appreciate where you're coming from with that. And I appreciate how big your balls must be to go from no psychedelic experience straight to DMT. That's fucking intense. That is fucking intense. Yeah, I mean, well, you, I mean. Maybe that's the way to start, though. Yeah, maybe you should just go from that big guns down. If you didn't know, like, what it maybe could do, then that's very hard.

Yeah, you don't know what you're missing. Exactly. If you go, yeah, exactly. If you go, if you do it right, like, you know, it's like a hang nail. It's like, you know, like, get it all the way off. You know what I mean? Get it all. Don't, don't continue to just kind of gnaw at it and let it like whatever, you know. So it is, yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was kind of exactly just the thing. And I had tried microdosing before and you're like, oh, the ground, I think moves a little. Right. You know, but I don't, I don't, I don't need the grounds to move a little. I need. I need to figure out. Yeah, that wasn't digging in at the brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't touch the face of God with my goodness.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I was probably rolling around like a, you know, like a wild monkey in my eye. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think I need a little more than, ooh, this, like, I really feel this blanket. I really feel this blanket. So soft. Yeah. You know, in the UK, they stay away from.

usually very heavy narcotic painkillers, and they have for many years. So their go-to is ketamine. Someone comes in with a compound fracture. I mean, I think they do this now in the U.S., but for their go-to is ketamine. And I don't know why, but the algorithm keeps serving me of these videos of these guys and girls who are in the hospital, some kind of major problem. And, you know, the doctors are giving them ketamine. And you just watch them as their incomplete soul leaves their body in the weirdest of ways. And it reminds me of that. being in the room with every you know all these people when we were doing ayahuasca it's just a it's a it's a wild experience but one i'm better for i would never i i'm so grateful that i ended

up in the path of doing that because it did show me some things that i can't explain and you know you can't take away from me either so um you yeah i i like you even more now drew so we're well thanks but what's up with the banana yeah sure um we'll get right we'll get right to the We'll get right to it. No, no, no, no. I think we're getting down to the stuff that matters here. Like, I, like, that was all filler. And I was getting kind of sick of it, honestly.

Yeah, honestly, who cares about that? When are we going to get to the meat and potatoes here? Oh, my God, philosophy, life or death, existentialism. What are we talking? Like, yeah, who cares? What are we talking about? Let's balance some things out with some nana talk. So, well, I designed this podcast studio.

with a buddy of mine, and we, like, we were like, so that, for me, the saying, saying banana has always been just a very difficult word for me for whatever reason. So I always say, like, nana, like, I always say, like, yeah, can I get it? Like, even if I'm out, like, a smoothie place, you know, or in there, you can, like, build your own or whatever. I'll get way, I'll get some ginger and some kiwi, and you can throw some nannas in there. So, I don't know. I think people think that, yeah, I think people think that I'm just, I don't know,

I think people think I just, I'm like, I'm very, I'm just progress. I'm like, I'm on the streets, you know? I know I got my ear to the ground. You know what I mean? I'm in with the kids. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So, um, so that was kind of the, that was kind of the design of that one. And then I actually have, I have another, I have another chair here. This is a softball. Um, because I had a softball injury. Yeah. So I had a softball injury. And there's, that's my, that's my dog with her headphones on. It was a stuffed animal.

Um, so, um, so, so yeah, that was, that was kind of, and it's, and it's, and it's, And it's the most expensive thing in the studio. Like equipment included, sign included, the nana is literally the most expensive thing. It's always the fucking chairs. These fucking chairs, too. They're so expensive. Everything in this studio, I could probably hawk for $180. But the chairs, my wife bought for like $12,000.

But they are comfortable. But they are. And you can swivel, too. You know what I'm saying? You know, Chrissy drops some knowledge and you, you know, I can't do that. I can't. I crick. I know. I crick my neck. If I have a guest on, I have to. Yeah, yeah. Do people come to your home? Do they go to?

They come right to my home. They do. I give out my address freely. I wouldn't do that. Yeah, I just wouldn't do that. Even for famous people. Maybe for you, Drew, but not for other people. I mean, you know, I would never, I would never get through Atlanta traffic to come see you, just so you know. I would. No. And if you knew where I live in proportion to regular Atlanta traffic, you would never show up at my house. I drive an hour and a half every day. It's crazy. Every day? Well, every day to record. Yeah, yeah. Every day we record. Oh, man, that's... I know.

I'm a little bit of a selfish asshole in that way. I said, let's build this studio. I know. Let's get you some more ayahuasca, Brian. Like, this is not you, man. I know, but I have the kids. So, you know, it's like everything in life. When you have the kids, they come to you.

There's an old saying, when you have the kids, they come to you. That's it. Ram Doss? Is that Romm Doss? Is that Romm Doss said that. He said that. God. I had Ram Dass laying them down this episode.

We had this guest on and I quoted Ram Dass in this very serious movie. I mean, I couldn't stop laughing. I couldn't keep it together. She's like, are you quoting Rom Dost? Drew has a new hour of material that is out on YouTube. Yes, for free. Yeah, for free. The stuttering comedian.

And that is, you can just go Google that or I'll put a link down. In the show notes, he's also, I imagine on the never-ending tour, do you have, like, tour dates way out to the future? Way out, yeah, and yeah, they're not in the past anymore. I've already done them. Yeah, yeah, you're not, you don't know about them. Yeah, that's right. I'm done, I'm a dog, yeah, I'll just tell you.

I wish, I wish I could pay people to just kidnap me and make me perform. God, it's a dream, you know. Nothing like performing under duress. I know, I know, just to be back in Juarez, Mexico. That's all I want. So, yeah, I have, so I do, I, I tour pretty heavy from the fall to the, to the spring. And I'm going like all over the place. It's, it's, it's kind of nice to be able to work so much through those months.

And then the summer months, I just, I take about three months off. Like, I remember, I remember, like, you know, when you're, when you're growing up and you, and you, you know, you're out of school for three months. Like, there's like the best three, like, you just have this. such a beautiful feeling of just like, I have, I have three months to just be a person. I can just, I can really just be a kid. I can, I can play games, I can call friends, I can go do things socially. And so for whatever reason, those two compartments of like, okay, I've got whatever, nine months of work and work hard, and then, you know, three months of play, and it's just

kind of, it's nostalgic, and it just, it revitalizes me. And if you're in a place or a position where you can create your own schedule, Like I'm very, very lucky to be able to do that. And then the last hour for the stuttering comedian special that I just did was, it was, it was basically just kind of like, let me put every answer to any question someone might have about my experience was stuttering, my history of how it came to be for me, the process of me. rehabilitating it as it relates to my mental health, what it does, you know, what it, what, what, what, what it, what it, what it, what it does for, you know, like my relationship to my career. I mean, there's a lot of things that it's all, I just all wanted it to be in one place. And then that way I can get a little bit of closure on that being something that I don't have to have, you know, uh, uh, just kind of dictate any, any, any, any sort of feelings or, or, or, or insecurity. or projections anymore. I love that. I will say this, and I know that after now,

I know a little bit of your experience, this is probably not what you're looking for, but I find you to be an extremely brave human being and a very funny one and a very self-aware person. So you are adding a little light to this universe that needs it. And I've been a fan of yours for a while. I continue to be a fan of yours. if you make it to Atlanta, when you make it to Atlanta.

Not here, because I won't allow you to my house, but we have a studio where we record with people in person, and I invite you to come sit with us. I would love to. I actually, I think I'll be in Atlanta, I think, sometime coming up, actually. Let me do a Google search. Oh, I'd love that. Oh, that would be fantastic.

Oh, look at that. And then we can actually book our calendars while we're recording. Yeah, yeah, if you wouldn't mind just tell them, the audience to just sit tight. All right. We've got some important stuff coming up here, guys. We've got to plan our next ayahuasca experiment here. I know.

I know, I know, I do. I'm going to bring ayahuasca brownies is so crazy. I would, I can't, I can't take on the calories. I'll just do it right from the soup. I'll do the T one. Yeah. I know it's, I know it's coming up. I know it got rescheduled.

So I know it's coming up at some point. So I'll, I'll, I'll be. We will coordinate. We'll have our people call your people. Drew Lynch, very funny. You find all of his links in the show notes. Drew, it's been a pleasure meeting you today. Thanks for coming on.

We really appreciate it. Thank you guys. Thank you guys so much. Let me do something Brian has never done. Be brief. Follow us on Instagram at the commercial break. Text or call us. 212-333-3-TCB.

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What a refreshingly honest conversation. That was a lot of fun. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. I mean, we kind of went places I didn't think we'd go, and I loved it. Well, I mean, I think it's kind of becoming par for the course with the commercial break that the comedians come on and they're like, you know, funny, funny, ha-ha. And then we're like, so, tell us about your deepest, darkest secret. Have you ever heard of Ram Dass?

He is the zenith of all self-help gurus. Yes. I love that you picked up on that. Yeah, because the other thing is that even though even this incredibly kind of, you know, introspective conversation, he was throwing in one liner. He was picking up on stuff quick. And you can tell that while he may still suffer at times from the stuttering or, you know, neurological damage from his accident, if that's him with neurological damage, he's probably

super fucking smart. That kid is probably super fucking fast and smart. And so... Yeah, I enjoyed that. I did too. I really did. I really hope that we get a chance to follow up with that in a in-person interview so that I can show off all my fancy words right sitting across from him. Because my ego tells me it's necessary. Maybe I'll have to sharpen up on a A couple of ayahuasca medicine ceremonies before I go. It's true and I can talk. Straight to DMT. I couldn't believe it.

My mouth was a gap. Yeah, I felt your energy over there when he said that. You're like, what? Go to YouTube.com slash the commercial break and look at my face when he's saying that. I am just like, what? Maybe because I started off LSD, which is not the softest of drugs. And by the way, the first time I ever did LSD, I did five hits at one time because there was no instruction manual and the guy who sold it to me sold it to me in a five strip and I just

said okay I thought that's what I do yeah he just told me put it in your mouth and suck on it and I was like oh okay there you go I he forgot to tell me to rip them into little squares and put one at a time so I had an intense experience my first time but it wasn't because I wanted to it was because but of course the first time's always fun you know it's like woohoo colors and pretty swirls and look at the TV and hearing things music sounds great but by any stretch of the imagination going even from LSD to DMT is like a holy shit

it's just two different words I don't even know how to explain it it's like the difference between Tylenol and a morphine drip there's no comparison whatsoever they're both intense so anyway you got a lesson in hallucinogenogenics I like that he just went ahead and dove in

yeah hey listen but sounds like he was in a point of desperation yeah like it's either this or it's that and I'm going to do this and hope that it works and it did and we're all the better for it so there you go

yeah I'm fine with them canceling Atlanta for that rescheduling and maybe he canceled Atlanta so he could come back and sit face to face with us exactly that's just the way the world works kids it's a weird wacky wild universe

she is a finicky bitch and she does whatever she wants to you're out of control that's the moral of the story Enjoy it while you can. It's just a flutter through this reality. But I guess we don't all share the same reality, but, you know, hey, listen, whatever. Anyway, Drew Lynch.com, the stuttering comedian on YouTube and all of his socials available down in the show notes and the links below.

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