The Commercial Break - TCB Infomercial: Michelle Wolf

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

On this episode of The Commercial Break, Bryan and Krissy sit down with the unstoppable Michelle Wolf (and one very new child) — the razor-sharp comic whose stand-up specials, White House Correspondents’ Dinner set, and globe-trotting tours have turned her into one of the most fearless voices in modern comedy. The conversation winds through her running background, her writing years at Late Night and The Daily Show, what she thinks about the current “offense economy,” and why making yourself laugh first is still the only real rule in comedy. As always, Bryan and Krissy derail things with their signature chaos: strange gym stories, Venezuelan detours, and a wildly unnecessary deep dive into the best and worst places to bomb. Smart, sharp, and sneaky-funny as hell… this one’s a treat. Find Everything Michelle HERE Her New Special is HERE To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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On this episode of the commercial break. You know, people that are like older, like in their like, you know, 60s and 60s have been working at the company like 20 and 30 years. And it was just, it was a very depressing time. Not to mention, you know, society was also on the verge of bankruptcy. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, but all the like, you know, the bigwigs, all the banks were like,

But, I mean, it was an accident. And there was some money back. So sorry. What happened? I thought we were friends. I mean, they warned us, but we didn't know. Yeah. I mean, they warned us, but we didn't know.

I mean, there was that one guy that made a billion dollars betting on our failure, but we had no idea. It was planned, and we set ourselves up for success, but we didn't know. No. Yeah. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. The 30 of the morning! Oh, yeah, cats and kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break.

I'm Brian Green. I'm here by myself to introduce a TCB infomercial Tuesday with a very funny special guest, Michelle Wolfe. Just to, you know, let's call this an appertye after your Thanksgiving holiday. And as is the tradition here at the commercial break, after any Thanksgiving holiday, I have been in my bed for the last five days with some kind of terrible stomach virus. foodborne illness, monovirus, COVID slash flu slash, I don't know what the hell I have. You know I get this every Thanksgiving. After every Thanksgiving, this happens to me.

Almost six years running. Five years running at least, maybe six, if we count the first year. I've had salmonella. I've had, let's see, norovirus went around the house. I had COVID one time. Last year, everyone was throwing up. And it happened again this year. Just happened again this year.

I don't know. Something about Thanksgiving. It rubs me. The wrong way. I love it. It's my favorite holiday. And then I end up five days in the bed. Who knows? But anyway, Chrissy's not here. I'm keeping her out of the, as I would call it, peach tree dish that is my house right now.

So I'm doing this intro and outro to Michelle Wolfe by myself. Michelle rerecorded right before the holiday. If you don't know Michelle Wolf, you should go ahead and give her a goo, as the kids would say, give her a goo. Because she's a very, very funny lady. Very funny human. I'll put it that way. She worked at Bear Stearns from 2007 to 2008 as Bear Stearns went directly out of business.

The business that was too big to fail that failed. She then went on to work for J.P. Morgan Chase before deciding there were better pursuits in life. And she went on to improv comedy, then hired by, I mean, some other things happened, but then hired by The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, where people started to take note. But it was the 2018 correspondence dinner at the White House that really was. set the world aflame about Michelle. Now, this has been a long time, like seven years ago. So I'm not going to get all into it with Michelle, because she's already answered every question about this. But she went right after the Democrats, the Republicans, Trump, and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, which caused

her quite the kerfuffle in a good way and a bad way, as they say, no press is bad press. And I have to agree, because she, as she has said on interviews before, and she'll probably tell us here when I ask her about it, she wouldn't change a goddamn thing. Michelle has just had a little one, so we're going to give her some grace because she probably has a little bit of mom brain. I'm like, I don't know how many children I am I in, 9, 13, something like that. I'm nine or 13 children in. I'm at least three years from the last one, and I still have dad brain.

I don't think that goes away, actually. I think I'm just, this is my fate. My fate is just to be forgetful. stumble around the house and eat late night as much as possible until I explode, literally, or until I get another bout of salmonella that causes me to lose 20 pounds. The good news about the Thanksgiving stomach drama, it always resets my weight. So there you go. Not doing it on purpose.

Not saying you should do it on purpose. But, you know, it's good if you can get it and you want to lose a couple pounds. Just find me. I'll give you some norovirus. Okay, let's do this. Everyone calm down. Links are in the show notes. as they always are.

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And then we'll return to this episode of the commercial break. And Michelle is here with us now. We are quietly talking so we don't wake up the little one. Welcome, Michelle. Who's with her right now. Welcome, Michelle. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me.

I feel like you guys are much more quiet with your voice than I am. The sleeping baby right here. I got to get this baby acquainted with my voice, you know. Oh, you know. That's right. They got to know how to sleep through this. Uh-huh. We do a podcast in our house and all three of my children, I mean, the first one was already

born, but the other two were born while we were doing the podcast. So they are well acquainted with all the yelling and hijinks and shenanigans. Is this one an easy sleeper? Is he easy? Yeah, he's a big sleeper. Love sleeping. Oh, that's nice. Sleeps like an alarming amount during the day.

he's like a cat yeah I'm sort of like are you going to sleep tonight like what's happening yeah you're okay that's the this is the best time though

my opinion I mean they're all the best times if you just pay attention and focus a little bit you know they're all the best you can find the joy in the moments at least so far

I only have ones that are seven or below so when they get to 13 I'll reconsider my opinion yeah but when they don't crawl and they don't talk back and all you have to do is

just feed them and then let them sleep and occasionally change a diaper. It's such a joy because they really do need you so much. They're just like little cuddle bugs. I love this newborn phase is like I think I took it for granted the last time because I was like, oh, it's just like eating and sleeping and changing, you know? Like the last time I watched every TV show that I had never watched before. because there's really nothing else to do, you know? Yeah.

You're at home. You don't have another child to take care of when it's your first one. And then the second one comes along and you're like, I would, you know, it's just, it's, that's the, it's joy. The newborn for me, the newborn part is the easiest. Totally agree. It's the newborn glow. I don't know why they, they sell us this complete lie that they're like, oh, you first have a baby. You're never going to sleep.

And I'm like, I sleep more. with a newborn than I think I've ever slept in my entire life. It's always, it's post that. Like, you don't have a toddler pulling you out of bed at four o'clock in the morning, you know? Visorable. Yes, that's when they start walking and talking. Yeah, and they're like, this way, this way? And I'm like, why?

What are we doing? Daddy, play with me. Daddy play with me. Oh, come on, man. Daddy's got to do just a little bit of work, i.e. take a nap in my office. pretend like I'm working. Why do they make like a toddler espresso machine so they can use it,

not for them to drink, but for them to use. When they do wake me up at 4 in the morning, they can come in with a little. I'm teaching my kid out to drive his little, you know, his little motorized car to Starbucks for me. Kid, get me an iced coffee.

Take daddy's credit card. And if it doesn't work, just smile at them and say, sorry, pay you later. It's what I do. So when you, I imagine that you're taking like a little bit of respite for yourself right now, besides the special being out and you having to do a million call-in podcast or whatever you're doing. I would imagine that you're taking a little bit of a respite right now. Do you take like a mama break and just get acclimated? You know, I haven't, to be honest. I mean, like I'm not just going to stand up at the moment,

but I'm like, you know, there's some things I'm writing and, trying to make. So, you know, that's kind of what I've been doing. And then promoing a special, which, like, yeah. You just people have to remind me, like, 17 times when I have things because my brain is on like 4% already. Right. And I'm in, like, a different time zone.

And I'm like, but what time is it my time? You know? Yeah. I think the best vacation that I, I ever had my personal opinion. And I think Astrid might her, I think she would agree with me at least two of the times is like that three or four days in the hospital after the baby is born and you have the nurses that'll take the baby for. I don't know if you have the same experience. But in our hospital, which is the baby factory of the United States of America, they will take your baby.

And like if you say, I need a break, they'll take your baby. So for the second two kids, we were just like, take the, you know, we need to break the whole time. Can you give us four days of vacation? I remember one of my friends, she said specifically when she was having her second baby, she was like, I'm really looking for the time in the hospital. Yes. She was like, because I won't have the baby and then I just won't have either of the kids for like periods of time. But I, I thwarted that plan by having a home birth. So I didn't, I just, you know, the midwife came.

and luckily they clean up. That is, you know. Yeah. Can I ask you a personal question? Yeah, sure. Is it a little bit scary having a home birth after you had a hospital birth? Or do you feel more in a home birth for both of them? Oh, you did.

Oh, nice. Oh, so you don't know. Yeah, I had a home birth for both of them. I don't know. I mean, like, I'm a very kind of go-with-the-flow person. And I was a, you know, I was a science major. wanted to go into medicine. So like I'm,

you know, I'm not super, I don't know. Fussy about little. Yeah, like I'm like, I don't mind like blood. You know,

like when I get my blood taken, I like look at it. You know, like I'm not. Yeah. But I, and I also know that if there's anything bad that happened, I'm close enough to a hospital.

Yeah. That's like, you know, it's not, I'm not super far away from anything. So, So yeah, I was just, I don't know. You're not one of these things having birds down by the river.

One of the things I really hate, and this is just me personally, is that, like, the idea of having to lay on your back to have a baby, I couldn't have done it. Because, like, I, for both of mine, I was, like, kind of, like, somewhat vertical, like, either on my knees or, like, standing a little bit. And like I For the moments I was on my back It was like the most excruciating pain I've ever had Really? Wow So I was like Especially during the first one I was like I'm so glad I'm at home

So I can kind of be in the position I want to be in Without being like attached to all that Yeah I didn't even think about that You know machines and things like that So for me it worked out well I know it's not for everybody but uh you know I also think they scare people.

I'll be honest. I think they scare people with birth where they're like, well, you know, your baby might die. And you're like, well, of course I'm, you know, like. Yeah, of course I need to go to the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. Why wouldn't I want the doctor around? Yeah.

You know, I think everybody who's anybody who has children or who knows people have children, there is a horror story in there somewhere. Our first was, I think the universe every day that we were in a hospital setting. We had discussed, you know, we had a midwife. Like, we hired a midwife to come in and help make it a little bit more organic, but think, you know, just whatever. The universe circumstances put us in the right place at the right time to make sure everybody was okay. But, you know, you do make a point is that it's in a clinical setting, everything becomes

very clinical and a little, in a little sterile, right? And it's a birth. It's like there's a little dude or a little lady coming into this world. you, if that, what makes you feel comfortable and it's like organic, I think it's perfectly, and I never thought about laying down and how much that might hurt. I didn't either. Yeah. But that's like, dude rubbing against your spine.

Yeah. But, you know, you have to be surrounded by, like, responsible people who are like, know, you know, what to do if something else is. You know, like, you can't just like, I've also heard the other side of it where people are like, you know, like they have like a horror story about like, they were like, yeah, and then I was at home and this happened and they didn't get me to that, like, I almost didn't make it to the hospital in time. And it's like, well, then you had a, you didn't have a good midwife. Yeah. You know, like, yeah, the midwife kind of failed you. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you, you, you need someone who's on top of it.

You need someone who like knows you, knows the situation, you know, has done it plenty of times, you know. So I think there's a there's, I don't know. But for me it was great. I really, I really enjoyed it. Missed out on that sweet, sweet afterbirth, hospital meal. Yeah, that's the thing to give you a hotel room. That's food. It's terrible.

But the hotel rooms are nice. I mean, for a hospital. Yeah. It's basically a hotel room. That's what it is. I, you studied science, but did you work on Wall Street for a while? Yeah. I did.

I have not done anything that would have led me to comedy. I know. How did you make the transition? Yeah. I was a science major. I didn't even do anything in college that would have led me to Wall Street. Like this is like I don't like I studied. I studied kinesiology.

I wanted to go into like exercise physiology, some sort of exercise science. So naturally you traded options. Yeah. So naturally I got into, you know, mutual funds and separately managed accounts in 2007, which great time did. Oh, wow. Perfect. Get into the banking industry.

Yes. And banking industry did just fine. We helped them out. That's true. Yeah. Actually, well, here's the thing. I was at Bear Stearns, which a lot of places, you know, the banks were too big to fail. Bear Stearns was just the right size.

Just the right size to fail. You went to Bear Stearns in 2007, so you're out of a job in 2008? Watched it collapse in 2008. I, because I was like young cheap labor, you know, like I stayed on and got to watch so many people get fired. And like, you know, people that are like older, like in their like, you know, have been working. Yeah, 50s and 60s have been working at the company like 20 and 30 years. And it was just, it was a very depressing time. Not to mention, you know, society was also on the verge of bankruptcy.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, but all the like, you know, the big wigs, all the banks were like, but I mean, it was an accident. Can't you give us some money back? So sorry. What happened? I thought we were friends.

I mean, we knew, but we didn't know. Yeah. I mean, they warned us, but we didn't know. I mean, there was that one guy that made a billion dollars betting on our failure, but we had no idea. planned and we set ourselves up for success, but we didn't know. No. How could we know a guy that makes $12,000 a year can't afford a million dollars in front of us?

How were we supposed to know the guy wasn't going to pay his mortgage? Yeah. So is that like? Did you find comedy and the tragedy? Well, amidst the banks collapsing, I had gone to a taping of Saturday Night Live. just to watch because I was a big fan of the show. And I was like, how do people do this? Like, how do you get on a show like this?

And I looked up most of the people on the show and they had all started an improv. So I just signed up for an improv class. And then that was in like March of 2008. The banks are collapsing. I'm doing improv after work. And I just, I wanted to do more and more of that. So I kept doing improv. I kept working at the bank during the day.

eventually instead of, you know, Bear Stearns, I was working for J.P. Morgan and then doing as much improv as I could. And then eventually switched to stand up and, um, and the way you went. And here you are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then you, we were reminded that you had the, the, I mean, there's like, obviously that you've been doing this for a long time and there are a lot of, a lot of hard work and a lot of ups and downs, I'm sure. But you had a show on Netflix called The Break. Then we, We just put the commercial in the middle and still. Yeah. Very nice. We thought it was such a great name. We said, but we can't just rip it off directly from Michelle. You had the wonderfully, I mean, that 2018 at the correspondence dinner, I think, that was, that's amazing because it's a moment. I know you've said this a million times and I don't want to rehash it because you have done this on every interview ever.

But in that moment, like the day after the White House Correspondence dinner, I know you've said I wouldn't change a word good for you. I wouldn't have, I would have felt the same way. But do you feel like you're in a little bit of a tornado in that moment? You know what was the most confusing thing is that people were like, like, okay, I said, you know, she burns facts and use the ash to create a perfect smoky eye. About Sarah Sanders. Yeah. And I had an interview the next morning on NPR with Terry Gross.

Oh, I love her. Maybe not the next morning, the Monday morning after. So it happened on a Saturday night. And on that Monday morning, had an interview with Terry Gross. And everyone was taking that joke, like, totally, like to say that I called her ugly. And listen, if I'm going to call someone ugly, I'll just say it. You know, like, I'm not going to make some makeup analogy. Is it a compliment? But one of the most confusing things, because everyone was so mad about it. And I was like, what are they? they even, how are they even taking that negatively? Right. And then Terry Gross was like, so what is a smoky eye? And I was like, Terry, you got to take a step out of NPR for like five seconds. Let's get rid of some of the flannels and put down some of your tote bags and just pick up one, one copy of vote. Yeah. You know, just flip through it.

I know you read all the classics. you probably got a bunch of Jane Austen in your house. But for like five seconds, can you just flip through a vogue and get a little bit on the zeitgeist? It's so on brand for Terry Gross to go, what is a smoky eye? She wants to dig into what she wants to make sure she gets in. How do you not know? Well, I think that to be honest with you, I think of that whole, I guess, performance, whatever you would call it, sad, you know, the speech, whatever it was roast.

I think that was like you went after every. I mean, you had fun with everybody. It wasn't like you just pointed out Sarah Huckabee Sanders. It just happened to be the punch line that landed. The whole thing was hilarious. You went after Trump and Democrats and everybody was that one thing. Sarah Huckabee Sanders was the like representative from the administration that was there. The press secretary, yes.

It would have been weird not to acknowledge her, you know. Yeah, exactly. But I did. I went after everybody. I went after the right, the left, the media. I mean, the media is probably who I hit the hardest, and that's why they, you know, came after you.

Yeah, they hit back. But yeah. And, yeah, I don't, I really, I get so annoyed when, like, because it's mostly people who have never actually watched it, that they're like, and they just, like, heard, like, a snippet on Fox News or something like that, where they were like, you only make fun of Trump. And I'm like, I am so sick of making fun of Trump.

Like, please give me more people to make fun. Yeah. Yeah, he's an easy target. He is the lowest hanging. Sometimes I'm like, I don't even want to, like, I would love to make fun of everyone else before Trump because it's just, I'm so like, and this was back then, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

When I was like sick of, sick of Trump jokes, you know, like, I, I firmly believe the entire government is bad. Fuck twads who are grown-up children who have too much money, too much power, and too little conviction for anything. They say the right things. They do the wrong things every single time. And by the way, I will share with the audience and with you that I don't see it that way. I don't think you just bash Trump.

I think you are an equal opportunity bachelor. If you see some bullshit, it seems like you call it out. You're welcome. There's very few people that I enjoy. Yeah. Fair enough. And one of them is on your lap right now. Well, we'll see for now.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But in that moment, you know, it's like I was reading about it when just like hearkening back to that time. And everybody heard about this is before COVID. This is Trump 1.1. But then you become like kind of a household name. So jokes on that. Jokes on them, I guess, because it really did you a service in the sense that I imagine. It kind of accelerated a career arc for you. And who cares? So who cares? Job done. I mean, knowing what I know now, not only like, you know, I would change my answer slightly,

knowing what I know now, I would go harder, you know, like I felt like I was being, you know, somewhat restrained. And, you know, if they were going to get mad at me, first of all, they were going to get mad at me at the volume that they did, you know, I would have gotten much harder to, like, deserve that, you know, like, you're going to, like, call me all these, like, terrible names. well then like let me do like the mean stuff you know exactly exactly you would have redone but also like knowing you know what the position society's in now I would have just I would have been much like more direct yeah and much more like searing and um you know to I don't know just be like people can you see it now

like can you see it now yeah or we um fall into this a bit It's beautiful, beautiful, it's the best. It's the best. It's beautiful, big. Bitcoin. Yeah. Bitcoin. And if you think about it, it's Bitcoin.

It's Bitcoin. The reality is six years later, the things that we fussed about back that, just think about. Seem tame. Seem tame. Six, seven years later, those things now seem tame to us because we have been so beat browbeaten by the insanity, the everyday insanity of the political climate, just like pop culture, all of it in general, that what you said then probably wouldn't even be a blip on the radar now,

number one. And number two, it's gone so much further off the rails that it doesn't not recognizable, 2018, 2025 are not even recognizable. I mean, I think I would have had to be, like, surrounded by my own personal security, you know. I would have been like, I mean, there's no way they're ever going to do this, you know, at least why Trump's president. No. I thought about that. For the next, I don't know.

Yeah. Ten years. Yeah, exactly. However long he's. 26 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

For long he survives. I don't know. Yeah. Well, did you see that? Because, yeah, you, I just feel like, and this was kind of my thing. I, everyone, there's, you know, often. there's a certain comic type of comic

who's always like, Trump's going to make sure there's no more censorship. And I'm like, that's not how it works. Exactly the opposite of what he's going to do. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Well, I think some of those comics are now on their back heels saying, well, this is not what I voted for. And okay, you know what? It is what you voted for. It is what you voted for. It is what you voted for.

My opinion in the moment right now is, well, keep speaking up against it and we'll sort it out later, but it is what you voted for. Yeah. Yeah. You helped other people vote for. That's right. We'll say I told you so later.

I never met people when they actually join it. You know, like, yes. Like, okay, like, yeah, maybe you should have been in earlier, but like you're here now. Let's go. You know, like, the whole like getting, it happens so much with so many different issues. And people are like, well, you should have spoken up, you know, years ago. And it's like, they're here now.

Okay. Yeah. Exactly. Let's, we can dissect the whole thing at a calmer period of time. Right. The warm embrace of sanity will have you here. There was this article that I read years ago, and I mean years ago, and now I think about it a lot, about we're going to have to welcome a lot of people back in, back in from the cold, right? And the wrong way to do it is to slam the door and scream and yell.

Like it's not going to, that's, that's not going to, it's not going to accelerate some return back to normalcy. Whatever that means, whenever it means it. I mean, you can even see it now. You can see people that were like somewhat ostracized. And then it like, it really hardened them into, like, you know, like, almost like a villain. And you're like, that's not what we want, right? Like, we want people to like, we want people to be like, hey, I, I, I wasn't thinking straight.

I've really fucked up. Yeah. And then you'd be like, I was brainwashed before. I drank too much liquid death. Come out of the cult. Yeah. I drank too much liquid death.

If someone got a little phone. You're not going to be like, right. Well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You think about it. It's like family members against family members.

And, you know, there's this podcast that I absolutely adore. And if you can swallow any more of the political bullshit, it's a, guy and a girl, like brother and sister, and every episode is them talking to their now extraordinarily hardcore, extreme right parents who were in their 60s and 70s. And each episode, they try and work it out, right? They try and like figure it out.

And it is a shit show most of the day. With the parents. Oh, wow. The whole point of the thing is like, let's talk about it. How did you get here? What are you thinking about? And the dad is just way off the rails. I don't think he's ever coming in.

But the mom you can see is kind of like sometimes as I gets it. she's like, yeah, that doesn't make much sense. And the kids are just like trying to present facts and be pragmatic and caring and empathetic. And it's really, it's like watching a family unwind or try to wind back up in real time. It's a fascinating, my opinion, fascinating. That is interesting. Probably what's happening around the world. It's very interesting.

It's very interesting. And, you know, I like that the kids are, their kids are trying to do that. I think one of the biggest problems we have right now, and I don't know how it's solved is that people just don't believe facts. Right. Right. And people often present things that aren't factual as facts. So, like, there's, you know, I've seen plenty of interviews with, like, older people who are like, well, you know, and they'll say something crazy.

Like, you know, there's a swirling around all race book. Venezuelans taking over Idaho. Yeah. Yeah. That's not happening. And you're like, it is happening. Well, eating the, what was it? Eating the cats, eating the dogs.

Right. Alligators are floating down in Florida. Yeah, it's like, it's just all ridiculous shit. And you're so right about this. But I think that's part of how we got here is that there's two different universes of information being presented. And it seems like a whole bunch of people just got easily convinced that facts aren't facts. Yeah. And, you know, people want to believe what they want to believe.

And there's so much information out there. And there's no way to know, like, and, you know, like news organizations, a lot of, like, news media, traditional news media, they started having opinion people on their shows. Right. But when you turn on, even, you know, you turn on CNN and there's someone behind a desk saying something, like, there's nothing on the screen that says this is their opinion. You know, like, and it sounds, you'd think most people would be able to discern facts from opinion, but very clear that that's not the case. Right. Very clear. Well, especially the older generation, I think they grew up more with their being actual every night, Dan Rather telling you the facts.

Walter Cronkite, yeah, the whole night is. So then it just gets moved to a Fox News or even a CNN. I mean, they both, you know, swing in the opposite directions. And then Facebook and, you know, it's all. All this stuff and you get these folks. Betty at church. Yeah, Betty at church read an article about how the furries are screwing in the bell tower. And I even found myself recently, like, you know, like I'll see posts and stuff online and I'll be like, what?

And then I'll send it to a friend and they're like, this one's not true. And I was like, oh, okay. I should check. I should check. You got to try. Now with AI, too. and pictures looking like pictures. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, all the misinformation with that, too. Well, I mean, you know. I wish more than anything that we could have an, um, a toggle on like Instagram or whatever it is. It's just like, don't show me any AI. Yes. Yes. Well, when you post stuff, it says, when you post stuff, it says, is any of this created by

AI? Help us identify AI. But your Instagram, you should be able to. to identify. You helped create it. You should be able to identify it. Don't you know your own family? Right.

Yes. Exactly. You don't know what your kind looks like. The other thing is there should, I mean, like Europe is doing there should be some law that your personal image, likeness, and voice is yours unique to you. You are allowed to control it. You can sue people who don't, you know, follow the, you know, your rules for however you want that used.

And also there are identifying pieces of code that are put into images and video that allow people to understand whether or not it's AI. But here we're not doing that because Bitcoin. Yeah, because we all want to make a trillion dollars. Right. Because the AI bubble is holding up the economy right now. What a sturdy, sturdy arm to be held by. You worked on Wall Street. You know, I mean, we're a one-legged table right now.

It's not even like, we knew, but we didn't know. Oh, the fake bubble burst? Wow, I'm so surprised. Yeah. The AI AI bubble burst? How artificially intelligent. How is the special doing, the well? Do they give you any of that information?

Do they say they call you up and they say, hey, Michelle, good job. We're really super jazzed about the numbers. They normally give me some sort of information a couple weeks out. I do know the day after it was released, it was in, it did make it in the top 10 for a minute. It was number at right behind, is it cake? Oh. Always a pleasure to be watched slightly more than people guessing if it is in fact, cake. You know who's watching this cake?

My kids, that's who's driving it to number one. They love that show over and over again. Same episode. So, you know, it must have done, at least early on, must have done well enough to make the top 10, which is always lovely. And then, yeah, I mean, I'm getting, continue to get nice comments and followers. So, so we'll see. And then you got a call from your agent saying, you got to do the commercial break. Right.

Sorry, you got to do the commercial break. She's like, shit, it's that bad? It might be. Let's just get on the commercial break. I'll figure it out later. Well, in all fairness, I did. taped this in 2023 and I like the from the time I said okay yes let's do it I think it was like you know mid you know mid uh September and then we got it out you know mid October so um wasn't a lot

of planning time on my part which is pretty standard for me yeah where did you tape it I taped it at Lincoln Theater in Washington, D.C. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a great little theater. And, yeah, I have another one that I taped in November of 2024. So I have another one. Wait, if I'm doing my math correct, were you pregnant when you were doing the second one?

No. Oh, no, no, no. The first one, the first one was post-first baby. and the second one was pre-second baby. Okay. All right. So you have another one in the can ready to go. I do.

Yeah. Look at you. Yeah. It's a. We got to get more like Michelle. I know. I was going to say, we need more in the can. We need more in the can.

We need to get. To stop riding the rail. But unlike Michelle, Netflix is not, you know, Netflix ain't calling for ours. For our show. And then what is your intention? Are you going to go back out on the road with your? material? I really, I'm, I'm, uh, there's a show I want to write.

So, you know, I'm in the midst of trying to, to, to pitch that. Um, and, uh, hopefully I'll get to, because I would love, I would really love to stay home and write for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. As you can imagine, touring with two young people is not, it's not the vacation I'm looking for. Yeah. Yeah.

It's part of the reason. why I think we are reluctant a lot of times to do live shows and any kind of string is because I don't want to be away from my family and I and it's hard to take them along like yeah first of all we would barely make any money anyway then you bring kids and it's all over right now you're just paying for them to have a vacation right but then it's it doesn't for me at least I really want time with my children and I want that on an uninterrupted because I like to take time away from them but you know what I'm saying, Chrissy.

Yes, concentrate a few minutes a day on my children and make sure that they feel, they feel loved. Are you in New York? I mean, it's nice to check in with your kids once a day. I agree. You know, just for five minutes.

I read this thing one time, this like psychologist that I follow on Instagram, this child psychologist. And she said, if you have multiple children, if you give them 10 to 15 minutes of dedicated time, no phone, no TV,

no nothing, just 10 to 15 minutes. this is, you know, this is what, this is your time. Yeah. Then you are filling up their cup. And I thought to myself, that sounds really easy. But now I have three children and that's really hard to get 15 minutes by our, by itself.

I must have read the same thing because I, I saw that and I'm like, okay, yeah. Like if I can. Yeah, I can. I like to think back on my day and I'm like, yeah, I think I'd played with her for 10 to 15 minutes. I think so. The phone is the hardest. Like putting the phone down, in my opinion, is the hardest. And it's something that you just have to remember. And then pretty soon they want your phone. And then that's the game's all over. How old is the first one? How old is your daughter? Almost three. Almost three. Is she starting to

grab at the phone? Grab at the iPad? I mean, she's been on the phone for. I was traveling with her. on tour from when she was about six months. So as soon as I needed it on a plane, yeah, it was, I was, I was like, well, we're not, this is. This has to happen. Yeah, this has to happen. And it's like, I don't, I know there's plenty of parents that are like, no screen, no screen. I'm like, you don't travel. Yeah. Yeah. Or take them to restaurants. Yeah, they take them to restaurants or they don't parent. They don't understand what parenting is. They're like weird people on TLC who don't, you know, the, kids don't know who Justin Bieber is. Do you know what I'm saying?

They're like just weird children who can't get along in society now that they're all wilding out in their own apartments. The reality is Astrid and I said the same thing. We're not going to. I remember you guys saying that. When we first met, we were traveling, we would see kids and they'd have their own iPad and they'd be pressing it or they'd be at the dinner table. And we'd just shake our head in condemnation, like little judgmental fucks.

We'd be like, nope, never going to be us. We're never letting our kids be on there. And the second, the first one was born, we almost handed it. than the phone instantly. I was like, well, this shuts you up. Okay, good. All right. Yeah.

Whatever worse. Yeah. Like I, I, um, I get proud of both, both myself and my parenting when I'm just watching a television. Yeah. You know, like, anytime I'm just like, I'm just going to watch this show. I'm not going to be on my phone at the same time. Yeah.

I'm proud of myself. Yeah. And then also, any time that she just watches the television. I'm like, okay. We're doing pretty good today. I did that as a kid and I turned out okay. Not only was I watching TV. I had, you know, I had two older brothers and we had one of the TVs where you had to

change the channel on the TV. Yes, right? Yes, too, yeah. And because I was the youngest and the easiest to convince of anything, I sat next to the TV. No, shit. So that I could change the channel because we would often try to watch stuff. that our parents, or at least that my parents didn't want my older brothers to watch. I had no idea what was going on.

Right. So not only if I watching television, I was watching television right next to the television. Oh, he's such a sweet little boy. He's been quiet the entire time. Yeah, he's been doing good. I think he just wants to switch around. He wants to take the other one. Yeah.

Well, listen, okay, so we'll, this special, The Well, is currently on Netflix. You can follow Michelle on social media also. You are a true joy to watch on my social media. You're funny. And I like the efficiency. Like, your joke writing is very efficient. I think you use your words very well. And unlike me, you don't go on and on forever.

I think that's a, I think your comedy is like, It's special in that way. It's unique in that way. It's smart. It's sharp. It's biting. And you don't have to. I'm also just not a great storyteller.

You know, like some people are really good at storytelling. I'm the same way. And they can't. I'll ramp. Like, I'm like, I can't. I know. People are like, how was last night? I'm like, it was great.

And, you know, we asked Brian, how was last night? And a half an hour later. Yeah. Right. Half an hour later. But, you know, that's, that's a gift. Yeah. Some people are wordy, some people are not.

I don't know if it's a gift. My wife wouldn't call it a gift. That's why she wanted to start the podcast. Shut the fuck up. Michelle Wolves' news special, The Well, check the show notes below. Michelle, thank you so much. You are welcome on anytime. Thanks for having me, guys.

This was really fun. So wonderful. Thank you. We appreciate you taking time because we know you're very busy writing, being a mama and promoting this well. So let's go watch it and get her back behind. Is it a cake. Let's get her in front of Is it K.

Can we guys? Right? Yeah. Let's. Yeah. Leap frog the show where D-List celebrities try and guess whether or not it's although I've seen some B and A list celebrities on there the last couple seasons. I'm like, oh, is it cake must be a thing now?

Everyone wants to know if it's cake, guys. Yeah. They do do some crazy stuff. They do, but I'm just not that interested in whether or not it's cake. I just don't care. I don't, I honestly stop trying to convince me if it's cake or not. Yes. Just give me cake or don't give me cake.

Right, right. If you give me a shoe and it's not cake, I'm curious. Unless it's a nice shoe and then you have to bring the other one. Instead of calling it is a shoe when I'm expecting cake. That's right. That's right. Instead of calling it is a cake, we should be, here's some cake and then you just get some it.

It's just a show feeding some cake. Celebrities cake. Feeding Corey Feldman like celebrities cake. It's very Mary and Krolet all of a sudden. Thank you, Michelle. We appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Bye-bye.

Thank you. Rachel here. While Brian takes his old man bladder to the little boys' room, Let's Talk Turkey. TCB needs your help. If you love the show, do us all a favor and share. Sharing is caring. And we know you care.

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and get back to this episode of the commercial break. I'll take a raise now. Bitches. Bye. To be feeding your child and entertaining two mediocre comedy podcasters at the same time

is a feat. Feet et complain, as they would say. Is that French or Italian? I'm not sure. Michelle Wolfe, very honored to have her here she was like so disarmingly lovely. I didn't, sometimes you expect a little more snap,

but I didn't get any snap. I got all the crackle and pop, but none of the snap, and I loved it. She was lovely, and she's welcome back anytime. It's great to be here, a new special, available on Netflix. That is her second Netflix special. I think she also has an HBO special,

along with a bunch of other stuff that you can find at Michelle. a wolf.com. Michelle isawolf.com. Links down below. She's also got a podcast, which I don't even think we touched on. I don't remember, but I don't think we touched on.

Her podcast, which is called Michelle Wolfe's thought box. And her most recent episode is called Tylenol versus Trump. I love it. I'm going to listen to it while I vomit.

It's going to be awesome. All right. Thank you so much to Michelle. Sorry to Chrissy. she has been shafted on so many of these intros and outros over the last two months. I don't even know what to say. Some of them were her fault because she went out of town for seven weeks for Mempho and left me here hanging. Okay.

And a very special episode tomorrow, because we're going to take the day off tomorrow. We're going to keep Chrissy out of the peach tree dish. One more day. And I'm going to run the other part, my half of Beach 2, San Francisco. Andy, water to wet. I did a special guest appearance with them, and they came on with us. I don't know. It was like a combo appearance. We were all just kicking it on the fly. It was really funny. Go check them out. I love their podcast. It is incredible, as the Spaniards would say. But you can hear them tomorrow here on the show. Add the commercial break on

Instagram, YouTube.com slash the commercial break. Hit the live button if you want to watch the videos now because remember, you can see them early by watching it live. Okay? 212-4333-3-T-CB. The phone is now working. It's open for everybody.

Okay, that is definitely all I'm going to be doing for today, but I do love you and I love Chrissy too. Best to you and all the others out in the podcast universe. Until next time, I will say, I do say, and I must say goodbye!