The Commercial Break - TCB Infomercial: Nacho Redondo

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

EP 850: TCB Infomercial: Nacho Redondo Nacho Redondo is 1/3 of the popular Spanish language comedy podcast, EDN (Escuela de Nada). Bryan welcomes Nacho as he discusses his long journey to success. From writing for a Venezuela comedy team to meeting his future pod-mates and friends in Mexico City, Nacho shares the struggles and triumphs of the last decade. Bryan, an honorary Veneka, uses his wit and charm to keep Nacho talking WAY past the allotted time. But Gustavo gets the last laugh! Find out more about Nacho: Tickets to his shows and more Escuela De Nada (EDN) His Insta Bryan's New Podcast: After The Break Apple Spotify Watch EP #850 Nacho Redondo on ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠! Text us or leave us a voicemail: [phone]TCB FOLLOW US: Instagram:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thecommercialbreak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/thecommercialbreak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@tcbpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.tcbpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ CREDITS: Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bryan Green⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ &⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Krissy Hoadley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Bryan Green Producer: Astrid B. Green Voice Over: Rachel McGrath TCBits | TCB Tunes: Written, Performed and Edited by Bryan Green To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So this gives me a true opportunity to be kind of a rock star with people who may not normally tune into the commercial break. But my reason for popping on ahead of time is twofold. Number one, to tell you this is a really long episode of the commercial break, but I think you're going to enjoy this conversation. And you'll notice that Chrissy is not a part of that conversation. The only reason why is the scheduling conflict. So while you may not hear her, she's here in spirit.

But number two, last week I announced I'd be doing a separate podcast called After the break. Nothing is happening to the commercial break. This continues to be my baby. And sitting with Chrissy four times a week and doing this show is the true highlight of my life outside of my children and being married to Astrid. I'd like to take the opportunity to play that trailer for after the break right now before the show starts. And then you'll have an opportunity after this episode to go take a listen. You can find it anywhere you download your podcast, wherever you're listening to this show right now, search for After the Break. And you can put in my name, Brian Green, if you want to. Okay, without further delay, my trailer for ATB, and then my conversation

with Nacho Redundo. You make this rather snappy, won't you? I have some very heavy thinking to do before 10 o'clock. Hi, I'm Brian Green, creator and co-host of the Commercial Break podcast. For years, I've been cracking jokes with my best friend, riffing on the absurd and trying to make sense of this weird little ball we're all spinning on, but through improv comedy. And man, do I love of doing it, but sometimes the chaos isn't enough. For me, some stories deserve a bit of a deeper dive. Some topics are just too fascinating, too ridiculous, or too important to skate past with just a punchline. That's why we're here. After the break, each week I'll take one

subject, polyamory, the failing movie business, Venezuela, TV psychics, the rise of hallucinogenic healing, or why people are obsessed with competitive geogessers and why maps. Yes, maps are so freaking controversial. We'll chew it up, spit it out, and break it down. I promise you'll have to do no homework. You'll get a laugh or two, and I'll bring the voices and perspectives to give you an honest, funny, and unfiltered look at the strangest, most interesting or most obsessive-worthy things the world is looking at today.

If you like your comedy with a little bit of curiosity or your curiosity with a bit more comedy, I'm here to scratch that itch. Let's find out together after the break. on this episode of the commercial break we are the product of a miracle it's a miracle it's not even far away from the concept of a miracle it's it literally is like we were at the precise moment and the precise we said the precise words to make people come into our shit and that's I'm so grateful for that and it's just it makes me so so yeah it makes me so happy just being able to do that and and and then I build the traumas to like a trauma ship and also a lot of people come in from every single country in the world not only Venezuelans and it's it's become such a such a blessing it's weird to say it because I don't take it that serious like I said but it just it's just it's

It feels weird. It feels weird. I'm not comfortable being that person. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, yeah, cats and kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Greene. I'm here by myself to interview someone very special.

Someone near and dear to the hearts, the Venezuelan hearts and minds here at the Green household. His name is Nacho Redondo. Some call him Nacho Red. He is part one-third of an extremely popular podcast called Esquela de Nata are also affectionately referred to as EDN. They have sold out theaters. They have been all around the world. They have reached the highest heights of podcast success. And we have been listening to them here at the household for a long time because, of course, my wife is Venezuelan, my brother-in-law Gutavo, who you know from the show.

show is Venezuelan, and this is a podcast who has really struck a chord with those in the Venezuelan community, really around the world. But, you know, they're Venezuelan, living in Mexico City, recording out of Mexico City. The show is the podcast. But they have reached these Venezuelans who have been displaced all throughout the world and have become fabulously successful. And I've been hearing about it. And I've been listening to it. And I've been enjoying with my family members, with my Venezuelan friends this show for the last six, seven, maybe eight years. They've been around a lot longer, I say a lot longer, longer than the commercial break has. We've even written into them as the commercial break saying, hey, we like you guys and just wanted to let you know that we're rooting for your success.

EDN has a close connection, like I said, to the family and my Venezuelan friends. But Nacho himself is a successful stand-up comedian. successful Venezuelan stand-up comedian who's currently touring with a show called Tramacos or Traumas it's in Spanish mostly in Spanish I think he does do a little bit of English here and there

but it's mostly in Spanish so if you are bilingual or if you are one of our Venezuelan listeners or one of our bilingual listeners you can get tickets I'll put a link in the show notes Nachored.com is where you would go he's also got a couple specials on his

YouTube channel and then of course the podcast which you can listen to and publishes frequently just like we do. I don't think they publish four days a week, but I think they publish a couple days a week under the name EDN or Esquela Daynata. Here's why this interview is very, I say important to me,

but I'm so glad that we finally made this happen, is because when you hear someone that you respect and love talking with such respect, love, and reverence about someone else or another podcast, you take note. You say, what are they doing? You know, what's going on with them that's making their shows successful and how are they connecting with their listeners? And if you understand Spanish and you listen to the show, then you know that not only are they really fucking hilarious, they really are. But they have a special interaction between the three of them that moves through the speakers into your ears and then you say, yeah, that's why they're good. It's because they have that magic, like where time and space just come together and it meets the moment and there they are. this, I don't know, like, almost, it's miraculous that they have this incredible show that's really, it's moved into a space in and of itself. EDN is its own thing. It's greater than the sum of its parts, so to speak. But one of its parts is here today, nacho Redondo. So we're going to

have a conversation with him. We're going to talk to him all about it. We're going to talk to him about his stand-up special. We're going to talk to him about EDN. And then we'll talk to him about Venezuela too. He's married to also another, like a fabulously successful Mexican actress who's very popular down in Mexico. Like I said, they all live down in Mexico City. They're out of Venezuela. I'd like to ask him about if there's plans to return to Venezuela because a lot of my friends who know this interview is happening and their Venezuelan have asked me, do you think they're going to have that big homecoming show? So we'll ask him all about that. Stick with me for this conversation. I think it's going to be a good one. Regardless if you know,

who EDN is or you know who Nacho Red is, I think this is going to be a good conversation. One mediocre comedy podcaster to another, me and Nacho Red, just shooting the shit. And for those of you that might be concerned, don't be worried that Chrissy's not here. Chrissy is out for Menfo, and this is the time when Nacho could be here. So rather than pass up the opportunity to have a conversation with him, I decided I will do it. And, you know, let's be honest. If there's going to be a Venezuelan that's going to interview another Venezuelan, let it be this Irish Venezuelan, right? Am I right? Okay, let's take a break.

And then through the magic of tele-podcasting, I'm going to have Nacho Redundo right here in the room with me on that television screen. And we'll chop it up, him and I together. We'll be back. Hey, it's Rachel, your new voice of God here on TCB. And just like you, I'm wondering just how much longer this podcast can continue. I'll rejoice that another episode has made it to your ears, and I'll rejoice that my check is in the mail. Speak in a mail, get your free TCB sticker in the mail by going to TCB Podcast.com and visiting the contact us page.

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It's Candace Dillard Bassett, former Real Housewife of Potomac. And I'm Michael Arsino, author of The New York Times Bestseller, I Can't Date Jesus. and this is Undomesticated. The podcast, where we aren't just saying the quiet parts out loud, we're putting it all on the kitchen table and inviting you to the function. If you're ready for some bold takes

and a little bit of chaos, welcome to Undomesticated. Follow and listen to Undomesticated, available wherever you get your podcasts. And welcome back to the commercial break, the favorite podcast of Nacho Redondo. Nacho, hello, It actually is from today.

For this one. Since today, it's going to be. It's from five. Now that I'm here? Yeah. Of course. How you doing, bro? I'm good, brother.

So, let me fill my audience in. For those who may not know, Nacho Redondo, one third of the very popular podcast, Ediana Escuela de Nata. Of course, anybody who listens to the show, knows I'm married to a Venezuelan. This is a phenomenally successful

podcast in Venezuela, but Nacho is also a stand-up comedian currently touring with his show that translates traumas in English or Tramaticos. And so, Nacho, let me share with you some of my trauma. Here you go, ready? Here's my biggest trauma in life. I'm married to a Venezuelan. Yeah. I didn't hit, I mean, I knew that from second one.

That was your trauma. And also, you're a blessing, because that's the way works. I think so. Totally. Yeah. But that's very risky from you. It's very risky. I know.

I took, well, listen, I like to live life on the edge. If I'm not stressed out, then I don't feel like I'm operating at my highest level. That's the curse of ADD. I don't know if you have that, too, but. Oh, I do. For me. Yeah, I do. So this new tour that you have, and I want to, I'm very interested in this concept.

And I know there are other people, comedians and performance artists who have gone on stage and they use trauma. as the linchpin for their show, but it's usually them mainly dumping their trauma as a joke or as a performance. You engage the audience in this. You asked them to say, hey, tell me about your traumas. Tell me, what is the wildest thing that you have heard out on the road?

And you can share it here because we're... Yeah, yeah. So go ahead. I will, I will. And I'm not... Actually, it's very healthy to share. this kind of story because it is what the what the show's about sharing and integrating the trauma into your current life and understanding that it doesn't define who you are but but but but actually

it makes you it makes you even more connected to who you are um agree actually at the show is about me but the the thing is that i haven't shared in my in my social media accounts or whatever the part of the show where I talk about me because that's the special that's what's going to be the because people think that I only get on stage and like hey tell me your trauma and that's it no it's a very well structured show

it has three parts and every part has a trauma that's in my life a trauma a trauma for me a trauma my trauma in that specific area it starts with the family trauma that starts with like the like the funny trauma

like the weird ones like I saw a dead body whatever and at the end are the oh yeah at the end oh you're gonna

you're gonna like this one and at the end it's it's the the relationship trauma so every every aspect of the show has my own trauma introducing to

however this concept of the trauma it means so people can also if I do it people tend to feel a lot safer and it's it's my it's my responsibility they open up they feel like they can relate it opens them yeah absolutely so one of the wildest traumas i've heard and i and i i'll keep you not

i've heard the shows have been so they're they're so rich in like emotional stuff that people tend to cry and people they go up and hug each other and it's very it's a very therapeutic approach to mental health awareness because everyone's sharing so, like the worst horrible stories that you can imagine and we have the license

to not make fun of because that's a very, very hard difference, but to laugh about it. It's not like making fun of or bullying or making it shameful because people tend to feel that the show

could go that route, which is not even close. It's obviously the complete opposite. Actually, I've been in a couple of situations where maybe someone shares an abuse story, a rape story, which is horrible. And I can't find the joke. And I'm very open about it. Like, I'm not going to joke about this.

And the person with the trauma is like, no, no, no, no. You have to. I give you permission. You have to do it. Yeah. That happened. A couple weeks ago in L.A., some amazing girl was telling me about an abuse story when she was five years old.

It's a horrible story, okay? And I'm like, I'm like, dude, that's horrible. We love you. And she's like, no, no, no. We have to find a joke. And there's some where it turned out to be very funny, not the trouble of the situation. Yeah, but for example, you asked me about the ones that have, that I, I have, like, more engraved in my mind.

Yeah. One guy, this one's in the funny category, but it's not the worst one. Okay. This one is a kid, Venezuelan kid, who, this show was in Porto, Portugal. Okay. So, kids, an Amazon delivery guy, okay? Okay. So he turns up, he managed to deliver something, and he's being himself and, like,

shit i have to go to a bathroom and he goes to a street and behind a dumpster he starts you know pissing there yeah yeah and he he he looks on a carry-on that's there a little luggage carry-on and he's like shit this is amazing i'm taking this man to my house it's new it looks great and when he grabs it it's like a little heavy and i said what the fuck and he opens it and there's a there's a chopped-up person inside like like arms and shit and the guy was like what the fuck's happening here and and he called the police and he even showed me the news article about the local news article and he's like talking to the police like and and yeah he found a body inside a piece of luggage that is insane that's crazy that's crazy i i have to imagine like i'd like what

you said about this is that some people they come to the show they demand they almost demand that this be something, I need a healing moment from this. I need to find a way for my body to react in a way that is not so traumatic because we all have PTSD about something, something traumatized us at some point. And like you, I'm a big proponent of therapy and have been going for many years, right? Yeah. And but still, sometimes our own bodies don't allow us the, the, I guess, the relief that we need when we get into moments where we're experiencing this or reliving this. And so they come to your show and they say, I need to react a different way to this. And I think comedy in that way, in so many ways, is a place where you can be dark,

where you can take the most taboo of subjects, where you can take the most fucked up shit, and turn it around into something that we relive in a way that becomes maybe not pleasant, but we have a different experience with that trauma. We play with it in a different way. Yeah, and people are desperate to do a talk, to just talk to someone. And they, maybe they're scared of therapy or even because therapy is very expensive. Maybe they don't have the money. And that conversation starts that, like, need to go to see a professional.

And I always say it, always, like, have you talked to a professional about this? Most of the time are like, yeah, maybe, well, once or whatever. And it's like, no, no, no, you have to go after we talk here and that that's great. But you have to go to a professional. Yeah. The guy from EDN is not your therapist. You need to go see someone about that dead body. Very far from it.

I wonder if you take any of this stuff home with you. Like, do you onboard this, some of this trauma, like emotionally? Do you go home at night and you're like, holy shit, what did I just hear? Like, I was in a room full of people and I heard three terrible stories and I'm not, like, the energetically you're feeling a little off. Oh, yeah. Well, this show, this is a very. responsible, irresponsible show to do. Because I was, well, I talked a lot with my therapist and my stepfather is a psychiatrist.

So it's a very well-designed show with the, well, I mean, I had to be very, very careful with everyone that talks to me. I have to be able to feel if this is a door that it's closed and we can talk about it. or this is a very open door and I'm bringing the trauma back into the person's life. Wow. So I managed to design this with my psychologist, my therapist, and she was able to let me understand the signals that make me understand if I had to deep deeper or just step back in the most elegant way so this person doesn't get home again reliving this. horrible event wow man that is really well thought out

yeah because it's not it's not like we do it and it's funny and that's it and most of the stories because I know how to I've been in therapy for 30 years and all of my family members are

psychologists or psychiatrists so it's very very engraving our DNA in our home DNA all the mental health issues, even the, my, my, my stepfather, he, he always tells me, like, you should have been a psychologist, and I hate you for being a comedian, because, and I, and I, and I, and I, I, I sent him, I just did a show in, in tech, a couple of shows in Texas, and I sent him, uh, uh, a girl that, that punch in the face at her father's funeral, she punched in the face and kicked out

the funeral, her father's mistress, okay? Very Venezuelan. Oh, very Venezuelan. Yes. And, and she was like very mad and whatever. And I asked her, like, why is she more guilty of this than your father? And she didn't even, like, thought about it. Like, why aren't you mad at your dad?

And why are you mad to her? And even with that, I told her, I was, like, talking to her like first of all is he a good dad to you she was like yes that's the only thing you have to be worried about the the relationship aspect of her of her parents and how they treat each other that's not our of our business but it's very different but difficult especially for latinos yes to disconnect that yeah and and i'm like if he's a good father to you you're you're well served that's it you that's what your father's supposed to be with you. That's your your next, that your nexus to him is that you don't have to worry

about if she, if he's unfaithful to your mom or whatever, that's not your problem. And you shouldn't be like there. You shouldn't be, you shouldn't be hitting anyone, but your miss, your father's mistress further. That's, that's amazing. You should have been a therapist. I know. And I know. And I sent that to my, to my, to my, to my, to my, to my, to my, to my, to my, to my, to my, to my, to my, my father. And that, well, my father, not stepfather, my father. And, and, and, and they were like, dude, it's never like, please go to college. Please. And I'm like, no, I have a great life being a comedian. And, uh, and an irresponsible therapist. But what is, responding, answering your question. I, I, I do therapy weekly. And talk about, a lot of things that I'm that I get charged with and I sort of and it's very it's a very it's a lot of the things we already know happens in the world but it's very difficult to put a face on the specific sufferings of abuse of alcoholism of you know all the things that yeah that you know that the world is made of, but like seeing it through the, through people, to real people, it's

different to read it or to someone, oh, someone tells you the story or whatever, but to just understand it from a point of view directly from the person who's a victim of that, it really, it really saddens you in a way that's very specific. And it's very, it's very humanizing also. You start to be more empathetic with everything that happens on your surroundings. You start listening a lot and seeing further into people's lives and understanding certain behaviors and you know, you become a little more aware of how horrible and beautiful the world is at the same time. Well, I think you become aware. I've said this for a long time that I think that the screens that are in our hands, the way that we absorb a lot of our media in these days,

it dehumanizes us or it desensitizes us to the atrocities. When we see it on TV running in a loop 24 hours a day on the screen, we get desensitized to the fact that, you know, these are atrocities. There are human beings that are behind these things. Yes. It might be a one-minute clip on a news story and you go, oh, that's terrible. But then there are people who live this for the rest of their lives. They have to observe, they have to find a way to navigate through their own emotional bullshit for the rest of their lives. And we see it as a one minute thing. When you go in there and you see, I imagine, when you see these people stand up and they're crying or they're dumping or they're, you know, you're seeing it come to life and you're seeing that's a person

there that's been dealing with this all their life and they have a long way to go to get, get any kind of closure to this. I'm sure that it does. Like, wake you up a little bit, and then you become more keenly aware. I always think about this. I don't know if you're like this, but I go to, like, Starbucks, and I'm standing in front of somebody who seems a little fussy or pissy or whatever. And I always, my mind always starts to put a story to why that person might be acting that way. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they're having a bad day. Like, you rewind the steps to get to the Starbucks. Yes, yeah, I do. I don't know why, but I do that as well. it helps me give empathy to the person in front of me who's acting like an asshole right i say well you know and and then sometimes there's just assholes sometimes i'm the assholes too so that's that that's the tricky thing is that i can i can empathize with you but if you're not open with me it doesn't justify being you being an asshole also it's like it's like okay you're an asshole because

you're i don't know you fought with your wife or whatever that's that's understandable but not really so because the people that we're there we don't know you so you have to shut the fuck up and take your mocha latte blah blah blah blah to your fucking house and shut the fuck up you know that lady gets paid 13 dollars and 50 cents an hour to make your bullshit just shut up and move on to make a coffee that has like five lines of words so you should she should be mad at you and your wife yeah your pumpkin spice bullshit latte um let me ask you a question. When you, do you ever feel a weird, I wonder if some people in the audience who make this connection with you, you know, they're big, I imagine a lot of them are big fans

of EDN. They've been listening to you for a long time. We all know that when you get, you know, when people start listening to you, sometimes there's idolization and that doesn't happen with everybody, but sometimes. And they walk into the room and now they're really connecting with you, like they're making a super connection with you. I wonder if anybody ever crosses the line. Do you ever get nervous that people are going to want to take that outside of the room and go, oh, I just, you know, I connected with Nacho on this level. So now I'm, you know, now he's my friend. Now we get to talk. Now we get, like, do they take it over the line?

I mean, yes and no. The cool thing about the trauma show is that it has brought me such a wider audience that the podcast has. So I really drew a line between the podcast audience and my stand-up audience. Even though my stand-up audience has been always there, even behind the EDN. Yeah, before the ADN, yeah. Yeah, I was, when EDN started, I already had like six years in stand-up. So it's, but this time around with this show, because of my podcast persona is a little, like, like goofier and maybe I'm more into the conversation between friends and I'm a little more

like relaxed and whatever and I'm and in the in the trauma scenario I'm a little more tense but also loose because I'm it's I understand the language and whatever but I'm also a little aware that something hard's going to come through the stage so people I've always had this people had this image of me because I'm such a emotionally responsible person and very

aware of the limits I present to people, even my closest people, like, hey, you don't cross this line. And people are very intimidated by that part of my personality. So I usually don't get that. People are very respectful of who I am.

They come through, they come through me and they're they're most of the people are very very nice and very educated and also i have a lot of limits in my social media for example you can't write me a direct message that's i'm that's closed in my social media yeah so so you only can you only can drive me a DM if you if before i put this uh this yeah this limit in my settings yeah before that you you you spoke to me I can get a message. But I'm very easy on blocking people or like, or like, like very, I'm very blown on that.

Like, hey, we're not friends. Take it easy. Remember, I'm, I'm your imaginary for internet friend. So treat me as a stranger because I am. That's a very common. And people tend to like wake up. Oh, I'm so sorry. And I'm like, don't worry.

I understand that we have like this like parisocial relationship where you hear my voice almost daily and you think we're close and i get it it's part of the job i'm not i'm not uh it's not it's not bad i don't i don't feel like it but like like it's bad for us but i've seen it with my with my partners for example with chris for example there people tend to because chris is like the most funnier guy and he's like more but he's he's a little more approachable in like the bullying thing and people tend to get to him like and i'm usually there kris can can say this about about maybe someone comes in and like hey what's up you little idiot or whatever and i'm like hey hey hey do you understand that we're not we do you guys don't know each other

are you friends and and the guys like oh yeah yeah i'm sorry no worry don't worry i get it but be respectful you guys don't know each other you guys are not friends for the way that you handle this, Nacho. I have a lot of respect because we get it too. You know, we have a phone line and people can text us and 90% of the time, one of us will respond because I feel that's my responsibility to the audience is not to just have some silly, you know, auto responder going out. And I understand, like, if you have millions and cabillions of people that are texting

you, maybe you can't respond, but we're still at, we still can figure out a way and a time. But sometimes people take it too far. and it doesn't feel commiserate with the relationship that we have. It's like, hold on one second. I'm a podcaster. I talk on this microphone with my best friend, and we have these conversations that are going on, and that doesn't mean that you and I are best friends yet, right? So you need to just be respectful of that.

And it's a dance. And it doesn't leave the door close. I mean, I have a lot of persons that I know that I'm. I actually, very good friends of mine today, that started being a fan. Like, they just managed to be very nice to me, and we have a lot of cool things in common. And then it's like, okay, hey, I'm in your town. Come to the show, I'll invite you, and let's have a coffee. And just, you know, and that becomes, you know what, the thing is that when a comedian in particular,

I'm not going to say other types of artists, when a comedian really bites on the fame, cookie? That's weird. Because the nature of our job is to be a cynic. And if you take yourself that seriously where you think you're a star or whatever, you're an idiot. For me. And you know, that's what's weird is that I've been around multi-millionaire fame, like 15 to 20,000 theater show comedians. Me too. And those guys are the best. Like the most humble, the most down-to-earth guys, at least the ones that I don't know. But the ones that are struggling are the more assholey, which is insane. It's totally insane.

It's ridiculous. I think that comes with, like you, you're six years before EDN, now six years, seven years with EDN, phenomenal success. You move through that and then you start to understand. you can understand how someone can bite on the fame cookie, but you have decided that's not for me. That bullshit is not for me. But I agree with you. I won't say the name,

but I just had a guy on the show, and we've interviewed hundreds of people, comedians, most of them. I just had a guy on the show that has reached pretty much the pinnacle. Television show, movies, selling out arenas, right? The guy could not have been more humble, more nice, stayed afterwards, said, come to my show, whatever, backstage, whatever, I don't care, it doesn't matter, all that stuff, come see me, let's have, you know, whatever.

He was the nicest guy, and it was the opposite of what I had expected. I expected that maybe a little bit of prima donna because of the success that he has had. And but he didn't bite on the fame cookie, and I appreciate that. Converting that, like you said, we've had people on the show who are not everyday, like, named comics. They're popular, but not everybody knows them. And they come on and they have an attitude. And it's like, oh, okay. It's very weird. And I get also, I understand that, for example, if you're going up and you're getting a certain amount of attention, you start putting up shields and walls. That's because most people want to take advantage of you in some sort of way. I understand

that. But if you're remotely smart, you understand that. You understand. that very quickly on who's in that lane who's going to try that who's going to try to be nice and just and and and comedians that take themselves too seriously are dangerous because we're just I don't want to diminish the the things that we do because I live and breathe comedy yeah and I understand it as a big part of like especially now especially now that I don't know. Especially now. Especially now. But the history and the contemporary, like, world weather, if you want to, yeah, political ambience or whatever.

The political climate, yeah. Has put us, the convenience in a weird space and in a weird place where we are almost like the last word on political issues or whatever. And it's like, no, that should have been happening. At all? Yeah. But it happened and I get it because reality has been, has become so absurd that the guys who have the observational power to speak to things or about things are the ones who have the last word without even thinking for the possibility for us to be wrong, which is what it's happening a lot. I do not fuck with politics anymore because, well, we can talk about. about it. I can't talk about it. But the Venezuelan politics are very specific, so I don't care.

But I've seen it in like a U.S. politics landscape, the one type of comedian and the other type of comedian. And it's like, and the cool thing about it, I have no opinion on, I understand every side of it, like for real. And I get it. And I don't think anyone means bad or harm to the other but what I'm seeing right now is a lot of comedians say oh I fucked up and that's great because that's what's supposed to happen when someone talks and I say oh I think I messed up and that's great it doesn't define anyone but now everyone's like oh my god you fucked up and I'm like you listen to me yes you changed your you changed your fucking mind yeah I changed my fucking mind. I realize

and I didn't do the right thing. I said this to someone the other day. I said, it doesn't matter why they're saying I fucked up. They're admitting it. They're being honest. And that's all you can ask of them. They're fucking comedians. That's what they're doing. They made a call. It was the wrong call

in their opinion. Now it's the wrong call. The reason why you understand both sides of it is uniquely, and I've also said this on the show, you're Venezuelan and Venezuelan politics. It's very specific. And that history is very specific. And, you know, I kind of know your history. Adam, we don't need to get into it here. But it's, Venezuelans understand what's going on, the political climate right now, I think,

better than most. And so they are. Well, I think so. I mean, it depends on which Venezuelan you're talking to. Where do they live? Florida? Yeah. Do they live in the country or do they live somewhere. I mean, I understand that, for example, this is for the people that like politics and whatever, but what you're saying is very true, but at the same time, because what we lived was so

extreme, that the answer to whatever you're feeling is the complete opposite. And that's not necessary that's necessary what's happening in real life. To be in the

exact opposite of things. of what you live but I understand that you're there because it was so extreme and so hurtful that I will imagine it's for it's like me I had a alcohol I'm like an alcoholic stepfather so I do reject alcohol a lot don't fuck with alcohol yeah I don't fuck without I can drink a beer that's that's that's the difference that I think the example went better than I thought I can drink a beer I can drink a glass of wine but being drunk for me it's like not it's not an obscene drunk people I kind of reject that so but I can enjoy a beer

and I can have a drink with you and I don't fuck with heart liquor but in that sense it's like I have all all the reasons to not fuck with alcohol at all but I I do go there but I'm kind of here where I can have a beer yeah that's the problem with most Latinos in and especially Cubans and Venezuelans that have being experienced as dictatorships and hunger and shit that's very serious and you go to the states and you say, oh, the answer is the complete opposite. The answer is conservatism because he came in through the liberal door, right? And it's like, it's like you can go and make a, make a cool, like, mix of things and be

happy about it, you know? Yes, my father-in-law, who is Venezuelan, and living in Venezuela, says, it doesn't matter which door they come in, they end up in the same place, right? And so extremes on both sides end up in the same place. And I think that's, you know, I think that's a good way to measure it. And I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you. I have a question to ask you, because I think you are a fan of comedy, like a historian of comedy. I think you take, you understand comedy in a way that I also look at comedy through that lens,

like the history of comedy and the way that. it's kind of navigated in and woven in and out of history, really. It's kind of helped build history in a lot of ways. What was the first thing you found funny? I'd like to ask this question with some comedians. What is the first thing you ever remember finding funny? Like in your brain, when you think of funny, that first memory, what was it? Jesus.

Well, I'm a big movie fan as well. I'm a, I'm a, well, it's one of my passions, like movies and cinema in general. as a fan of movies and that's my in my generation I'm almost 40 so my generation was like renting movies

right yeah that was like me too so the first two people the first two people that make me understand comedy

the way that I like it for me was Jim Carrey and Leslie Nielsen both of them like the naked gun movies there's nothing like it And Jim Carrey at the Golden Time, where that couple of years where he released Ace Ventura, the Mask, Dom and Dumber, Liar, Liar, like that, like an amount of crazy, amazing movies that make Jim Carrey who he is, especially for the ones who were abroad and like the international fame that got him. For me, it was Jim Carrey and Leslie, because I rented those movies like I was sick.

It was a sickness. I already, the guy at the rental already knew me, so he always, I know I was getting something new, and I'm always getting Ace Ventura or the, or naked gun, or any Mel Brooks movie that had Leslie on it, like, the one that where he's Dracula, or even the, the Robin Hood one where Chappelle is also. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. that those those movies like really shaped the way that uh that i was that my comedy and the way i perceived comedy in the world that was my that if you if you asked me the first thing that made me laugh for sure was that for those those leslie nielsen movies especially the naked gun ones and i mean you can go all the way back to airplane and some of the other movies too right but those leslie nielsen movies he was a very serious actor he was a very serious actor he was

was never a comedic, comedic actor, he had no training, no one ever thought of him as a comedian, and he played the deadpan role, the deadpan comedian role, better than any, in my opinion, than any other actor-actress in history. No, there's no equal. No equal. There is nothing funnier than, in my opinion, as far as slapstick, quick comedy is concerned, than those naked gun movies, they are fucking hilarious. I watched them religiously.

over and over and over again until I had the jokes timed. I mean, that was the way that it was. Do you, who are your favorite comedians that you're following today? Like, let's bring it present. Who are some of the comedians that you enjoy watching that you think are doing good work? Well, there's a lot, it depends on the style. I'm usually changing that list because I don't even have like a big fixation or having a favorite comedian

until I see them live and that for me it's like very because I understand that all it doesn't translate into video sometimes the show of your experience I'm going to tell you a quick like very recent example

please I admire all the preparation and hard work Matt Rives doing right now into his comedy right but I didn't I'm not going to say I hate when comedians

do this but hopefully if for whatever reason he sees this I want him to understand and I'm a big fan but I didn't love his special in Netflix and I'm like that's great because he's so young and I'm like Jesus this guy is amazing

and his crowdwork is just exceptional like best in the game no no questions asked I have to agree with you there I just saw him in Austin I went to his taping I think he was doing a taping there and the writing comedy

got amazing like I'm telling you this guy is one of the best comedians I've ever seen life and not only his crowdwork part like his joke thing it just evolved ridiculously

he's such a great comedian and I like I dude I was my stomach was hurting on his writing and that's great that's what I want to see I'm always rooting for comedians I don't want him to be bad

I'm always in the and I understand that even that if that Netflix special wasn't for me which I'm not gonna say it's bad because he got him and he deserves it and he's great

and he has but he was very maybe too young for me and I didn't get the jokes or whatever but this time around dude whatever he's releasing I'm telling you that's gonna be a legendary special because the jokes are amazing

but if you want to go back and like which ones are my my go-to comedians like my favorite ones in the world I have to say even though it's a complete opposite of my style um Anthony Jesselink is basically the best band

in the world it's the best writer joke writer in the world for me one of the funniest yeah he's there's just no one like him I have to say that Louis and Chappelle are basically the ones that I'm I follow the most and especially Louis, I have to say

Louis, I think he's the American comedian. No other like him in, and I'm obviously you know, okay, you can't all of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you go way back, yeah, yeah. But for me, for me, those two guys are just

and obviously burr, I mean, like the OG comedians like the ones that are always angry I don't know make me laugh I can relate

I mean even though I'm not I have more control of my emotions than most of people I feel like I'm I feel like I'm funniest I feel like it's coming out

to me funniest when there's a bit of spice when it's anger so I get the burrs and I get the carlins and I understand that line that lineage of humor because there's something

about getting charged up that just like you the wheels are off the track and you just kind of go with it. And I know you know this, too. It's like, when I'm here and there's a good riff and we're really going, it's mindless. There is, there's no thinking about it. It's just coming out of you, right?

And something about, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Well, here's what I wanted to say about Chappelle is that what's really interesting about Chappelle to me, and I don't know if you'll agree with this, is that Chappelle has become not only a great comedian, but a great orator. He is a commentarian, an observation. like no other I've ever seen, including Carlin.

He's like up there with Carlin. Those two make observations about the world around us, and they have a way to present it that is unique, at sometimes funny, but most definitely poignant. That's the thing. It's pointed. I met Chappelle at a show that he did a very small show in Atlanta, 200 people, something like that, and I was there. It was basically, and this is, I'm not going to be,

I'm not going to be able to portray what happened there, but it's a religious experience. It's almost like mass. It's almost like a church because of him. And the energy that he puts it and the people that engages with him. It's a very church-like experience. And it's very interesting. I don't know if it's cool, but it's definitely something.

and it's i appreciate it a lot and the other comedian that i really really like because there's a there's a physical aspect of comedy that i'm always always engaged to and and there's two comedians one of them doesn't get the credit enough it it almost goes as a fashion like sometimes every now and then he gets it but he's the real goat and the real first internet comedian it's dan kook i mean dain is such a fucking legend bro and I really get and I get the hate that he gets because I understand that he broke the internet code first yes and and I get and he was very hated on a pun and he tried to make that at that time where Hollywood was a little more more like heavy that

internet presence yes he managed to put this big but he he wanted this because this was what's what what you had to make like go go and make movies and whatever and it didn't go as well as he thought it will be and then he he basically like left a little unattended like the internet and comedian stuff but for me as a venezuelan kid who downloaded a lot of illegal shit because we didn't have access dude there wasn't there wasn't and I hopefully doesn't offend this thing at all I know it would but dude I downloaded every single special and clips and I was very young and I was dude I was screaming for example that Burger King uh like like car thing oh the burger thing where he's got drunk turn on time yeah

exactly like whopper dude that been for me it changed it changed everything because of the physicality of it and right right afterwards not afterwards but a little further it's Sebastian I mean Mariscalco is just dude the physical thing he's a master of his body he's a master of his his vocals yeah it breaks me I that thing that he does like what that the physicality of it it breaks me I don't care what you're saying I really don't but you're so good at the timing and the professionalism of it it's just magical for me I just I saw

I saw Dayne at the Improv once and I saw Sebastian at the Hollywood Bowl at the Netflix I think those big arena things it's not for me but I think it's difficult to translate of a physicality

like that you're just watching a screen if you're not close enough right and that's yeah it's a huge screen I remember how Chappelle used to stalk I mean how Chris Rock used to stalk the stage. And I saw him live here in a bigger venue, but we were up close. And he's a master of physicality also, the way that he gets, you know, he gets the punchline comes. Yeah. And you, you brought rock. So it's for me, it's very difficult because I had so many

stories like with each of a, I grew up watching HBO specials. So, but for me, the first three comedians that I saw, like, religiously, and I got sick of just studying them were Rock, Cat Williams, and Chappelle. So that's why I am the way I am.

That's the way, you know. Listen, the very first guy that I ever interviewed was Dane Cook. First comedian that I ever interviewed was Dane Cook. He was nice enough

that I was a nobody. There was no reason to come on and I interviewed him and he could not have been nicer. While he was never my favorite comedian, I did understand. why people liked his comedy and the physicality of that comedy was funny to me like it he's such a legend man certainly was and well he he was so humble like he just was like humble he's also been through so

much shit oh yeah like his story his brother story and whatever yeah oh god that's fucking insane yeah that that's one of the one of the examples of someone who got someone very close to him got and and took advantage of his work. And that definitely makes you, I'm not going to say weird, but makes you feel you want to be protected all the time. And I get it. But he had,

I only hear great stories about him. I don't, I do not, I think it's a, he gets the same hate that Matt Rice gets because he's, he's good looking. I was going to connect those two. Yeah.

You know, he's great. He's very hardworking. And I, it that makes people, I don't know, move a little bit, you know? Well, he's young. He had a lot of success. No one expected the success, just like Dane. No one really expected Dane to do anything. He wasn't doing anything. And then all of a sudden, he broke the rules. He said, if they're not going to have me on Letterman, I'll send it out through my MySpace. And all of a sudden, people were like, well, shit, here's free comedy.

I just download on Dane. And he built an empire that way. Unfortunately, you know, he had to rebuild. All right. So you're a big music fan. I see the drums in your background there? Oh, yeah. Oh, man, look at that. That's a nice Ludwig set you have back there. I also heard that you went and saw Oasis, not once, but twice. How does ticket in town and Nacho went twice? Are you a big Oasis fan? I'm a big Oasis fan. Leo from E.D.N. He got me the Wembley tickets for Christmas, and we, it was a very, it's an amazing, an amazing experience. But I, I, I, I actually, actually like I love Oasis I'm not going to say I'm the number one fan because I'm not but I like I love the lore of Oasis all this that I think Oasis is one of if not the best marketed band in the world and not even thinking about it just don't know it like that way but I think I really think that that what Oasis represents it's a lot of what the artist artistry industry really needs to start regaining again, which is a little right, like they have to be

more rebellious and more like, fuck you, I don't care. I'll do whatever the fuck I want. I don't do this for money. I don't do it. I just do it because I want to. And that, that kind of attitude without being disrespectful. It has to be. I agree. Yeah. It really, I really miss that in the in the industry in general and they did it right from the beginning because from the beginning they came out with this winner takes all attitude that we are the next Beatles we're coming to America and we're going to take over and I was alive I was a teenager when their first albums came out or becoming a teenager when their first albums came out a little bit older than you and they just had this mythology from the beginning that they were you know kind of assholeish

pricks from London you know from from England that we're going to come over here and you know take over and the truth was they had the music to back it up so once all of these anthemic songs started playing and then they beat each other up on stage and you know all this other stuff and they let the hiss they let it brew for so long that but the lores it's that it's so powerful that oasis wasn't even like a big music seller it out of the ukk your oasis was big but not this big that arena all over the world uh-uh that wasn't like that and they didn't have

that many hits as you thought of because we're fans we know the hits but it's not like they were big and famous all over the world but the reason they're selling right now that much is because of the lore and everyone wants to live through it and the amount of young people I saw in the UK not in Mexico

in Mexico I saw like people in my but in UK the little guys like the young guys the kids that they are like being introduced by their fathers and their parents like this is me bro like understand this shit and and and it was it was such a cool thing to study and to just experience and and the Lord is it's that powerful that that makes arena sell out in hours even though they're not as you want to be part of it and I understand it. Yeah, Pearl Jam's a much more popular band from that age. I think so.

Yeah, of course. In the U.S. In so many hits and so many people, but, you know, they don't, they're not selling out, you know, no offense to Pearl Jam, I love them, but they're not selling out Soldier Field in Chicago to 150,000 people in six seconds, right? It just doesn't, it hasn't worked like that because they have been feeding the beast the entire time. I agree with it.

I think there's a lot of good PR. Yeah. I just knew, this is a fun fact, it was for me like a couple of weeks ago. The Pearl Jam means jizz. You know that? I didn't. Pearl Jam means jizz? Yeah.

You knew that? No, I had no idea. I had two weeks. I had this information to me since a couple of weeks ago. Pearl Jam. If I turn, now I get it. I understand. It makes a lot of sense.

If I turn this camera around, there's 12 Pearl Jam concert post. framed up here. Well, you're a G's fan. You're a Giz fan. It's 2025, Nacho. I'm a man of the people. I am too, so fuck it. I don't care.

Nacho is on tour with traumas right now. The show is in Spanish. Just to let everyone know. And I know we do have a lot of Venezuelan listeners. He's going to be on tour here in the U.S. I'll put a link down in the show notes. Of course, EDN is everywhere. So you don't have to worry about it.

Just wherever you're listening to this podcast, you can go check out EDN. Nacho, I don't have to leave. I don't have to leave if you want to talk a little more. Oh, no, no. If you don't have to leave, I want to talk to you more. Let's go. Usually close to an hour in, a guest has had enough of us, and we may have had enough of a guest, but not with Nacho Red.

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conversation with Nacho Redondo from EDN. Let's talk about EDN for a minute. Edien is so incredibly successful. And I know I have experienced this myself, and just let me share a story for a moment. Yeah. This show, you know, it has its fans. You know, we get hundreds of text messages. The, engagement that comes through, right? That's when you know a show is really starting to take off, is the engagement and then the charts and all that other stuff. But we have never had engagement, like the engagement that we get any time that I talk about Venezuela. When I talk about my personal connection to Venezuela, my best friend of 32 years is Venezuelan, I became an honorary

Venezuelan at some point. I was the, you know, the Polones, right, of the gringo in the family. And then, of course, I married my wife, who is Venezuela. like from Venezuela, Venezuela. And... Which city? She's from Caracas. She was in Caracas when I met her. And then she went to Switzerland to get her master's degree.

So then we just... I chased her around, Nacho. That's what I did. That's what Venezuela's do. Yeah, of course. Two gringos. Yeah. Should I put this on the other foot?

Yeah. Huh. United States. That's a great place. So, I understand the power of loyalty from Venezuelans because now they follow me, they comment, they listen to the show, and it's been a wonderful, beautiful relationship. When EDN starts, you guys are just like three buddies that just decide, hey, we should do this.

We're comedians. We could probably wrap for a couple of hours. How did this all start? Well, it was that easy. I mean, we were sharing the same city. the three of us were in Mexico City that was the last one to come here to come here

and we were friends because we worked in a comedy office in Venezuela called Plop which is it was like the Venezuela has its own the onion which is El Chihuide I'm sure you heard of it

that's the office where that happened where like the El Chivere was going on and there was a funny page called El Mostacho which was mimicking funny or die at the time. Okay. And we were all part of that.

We were writing. The thing with Plop, it was like everyone was involved in every project. Yeah. So I was, the reason I entered Plub was because I was writing

for a late night for Erika de la Vega at the time. So I was already into the TV writing space and everyone there started doing stand-up every comedian you know was there like Led Barrella was there

Jose Rafael Busman was there Nat Nutria was there the guys from El Quartico which is the other podcast that's also very successful and also the three of us every single comedian right now who is touring and it's a great

success and that's our school that's our college block so my generation that started there Chris was there Leo was there and we all of us made a great

like yeah like a great group of yeah yeah and then obviously everyone took took off and some of us went to some yeah Miami Argentina whatever

but for whatever reason Leo Chris and I managed to land in Mexico City and I already did a pilot with Chris in Venezuela for a podcast before I had to flee a country because of the amazing

democracy and the beaches and the mountains. I was just tired of it. I needed a little more chaos in my life. So, and then we landed here. And Leo was the one who had the idea and brought us to a coffee place

and we're like, what about doing a podcast with three of us? And I'm like, of course. Why not? I mean, I was just living out of my stand-up. And I was like, I can't use a little more internet presence and, you know. And some structure, some purpose, something to do. Like, you know, yeah.

Exactly. And Leo and Chris were in a, they were working in an office in a, yeah, like a marketing or wherever. I don't know. and but I was completely like invested in my stand-up so we started doing this and it was very natural our chemistry is really unheard of like we are very different we have our differences in whatever but

like the chemistry between the conversations do we have well we have we have done squada and a for almost eight years uninterrupted and with uh those two guys are the one other people who have spent the most time in my life. I'm sure of it. Like, even more than my mom, not even, my dad, well, he wasn't there. So who gives a fuck?

So, but, but like, like, for us was very easy. And it was just a spark. It's not, I wish I had like a cool story about, oh, and I just managed to fall into a table. and the microphone was on and whatever. It was just very easy for us. And it just exploded in our faces. We didn't, we didn't, we truly don't understand that much what happened. Yeah.

I have had conversations, long conversations with my brother-in-law, Guadavo, about EDN. Because it's obvious. Gustavo is your brother-in-law, yeah. Brother-in-law, the one with a small. like your dick right? Yeah, with a small penis. Yeah, it's an unfortunate problem, but we're going to take a good doctor and see if we can get it fixed. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. There's pumps and penis, you know, extenders and all that. We'll figure it. There's, there's dick doctors all over there. There's lots of dick doctors. Yeah. He's seen a few. He's got, that's his future.

There's a lot of dick doctors. Well, he's studying to be a dick doctor, so. I think he's doing a lot of research on penises, if I'm being honest. Yeah, I go. I do comedy. I do comedy. He's doing it on digs. On penises. That's great. That's great. He says that one of the, and I think that Venezuela, especially the young folks, they are displaced people in general, right? They're all around the world. And one of the things that Gustavo says is, feels like why he's so loyal to EDN is that it's. Is that it's

a little bit of home. Like, it feels like a little bit of home. It's three guys, three personalities that we all know from our own lives. And they come into a room and they talk about the things that we know and the things that we love. And it feels like a little bit of home. And these Venezuelans from all around the world feel like they're tuning in to a little bit of home. And you're fucking funny. And then, you know, you talk about pop culture and the things that represent this kind of larger despora, these people who are all over the world. Yeah. That's I think there's a little magic there. Yeah, that's the most common message we get when we encounter fans of the podcast all over the world.

It's like, you are the Venezuelan kitchen with my friends. Like, you know, we Latinos, we manage to have our conversations inside the kitchen. Even though we can have like the biggest living room in the world or a terrorist or whatever, you're going to find us in the kitchen. I don't know why, but it just calls. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's where the food is, but we don't cook. We just drink and have a conversation. Well, Ticanio's in the air fryer, and after that, it's like, you know, there you go.

Not even the air fryer. Air fry is a little Gustavish, you know. Yeah. But in the, like you said, it just managed to connect with the people who felt alone in the, in the process of being new to a new country and the amount of people who just wrote us like you you managed

to you accompany me with those years where I had no friends and no partners or whatever and now it's such a long time has passed since EDN got born that a lot of people that were

alone we are I already know a lot of people who I see most of the shows who I see yeah on the streets or whatever and now they have children yeah yeah and they have

a local partner like maybe a Chilean wife or a Spanish husband you know and and that that's that thing really connects with me it's like I was there when you had nothing and now you had this

family and they bring the kids to the show and it really it really doesn't come, it doesn't get any better. It's going to be a great feeling, yeah. It's great. It's ridiculous. And even, this

is going to sound a little traumatic, but even people who were fans that died, and I remember them. I, and do you know, remember this guy? Oh, he had cancer and he passed away last year. And I remember those guys. And I remember the people who were there and then

maybe come to my show and they say, oh, I lost a little of, I got lost a little in Skuala de Nara because of my family. I have a family now. And I'm like, don't worry, you can come back whenever you want. It's like, it's a little club where people

come and go, maybe they pass away. Maybe they have a great, like, big family. And for whatever reason, Squalanaa just is tattooed on their lives. That's so weird. For me, to have that an impact on someone's life

talking shit with my friends. It's just ridiculous. Like three years ago, I remember getting this, I woke up, I get in the studio and I get this, and I'm reading through some text messages and someone's telling me they sent this like very heartfelt letter to the commercial break about how they were going through a bad time,

divorce, separation with the kids and all this other stuff. And they were thinking about taking their life. But Oh, we got that. I'm sure you guys have had 12 of those, right? But we did that and then I just remember thinking the commercial break is a thing in and of itself and it almost has nothing to do with us anymore I mean it is us but it's like it's a thing and people turn it on and they rely on it and they want it and they like it and that's not

I'm trying to be I'm trying to humble brag a little bit here but you know it's a thing that we created two friends just shooting the shit and now people they are into it it it's got a personality of its own and I would imagine it's bigger that you you guys. And it's bigger than us. We had a great conversation a couple of days ago about, you know, what's the stage of each of one of us in their lives? And what should we? Because right now, as we speak yesterday, there's a, there's a Colombian counterpart of Skola Anaa. Like, you know, there's a, we managed to say that there's a school inada in each country. And I have to be very, I'm very, yeah, I'm very lucky to be friends.

with almost every podcast that has been brought up in every Latin America country that has become very big and very successful. In Colombia, it's Perros Krioyos. But they just did an arena, a 40,000 people arena

in Colombia. And they, in that show, they announced that they're breaking up. And it's like, we, we, that was all the, the thing that we wanted to do is just to touch the the top of a mountain say thank you and then fuck off and like that was that's insane that's but that's so inspiring cool cool that's what that is that's inspiring it's like this the purpose of this and we're we've we've we've talked about

the end of scolada now of course we've done it but it's such a big project and it's and And the thing that we, the three of us agree on is that it's bigger than us. So once, the time, when the time comes to have that conversation for real, we have to respect it as it is. It's bigger than us. It, it really touched a lot of people's life. I don't want to, I don't take it that seriously because like it's not in, I can't do it. It's not in my, in my spirit to do so.

But, but it really is. Yeah. But it is what it is, Nacho. It is what it is. It's like you created this thing. You birthed this thing, the three of you, and now it's out there in the world. And a lot of people, you know, they are attached to it in some way, emotionally, spiritually, maybe even just to listen to some. Maybe they, you know, they're hate listening.

I don't know. There's a lot of that stuff. Yeah. That's got some weight to it. And so when you decide, the moment comes, I've always said to Chrissy, I'll do it until it's not fun. And when it's not fun, then I have to. to seriously consider what's next, right? But I also have to consider that there are a lot of people out there

that listen to the show, and they, you know, we'll see. I don't know. Who knows? It might maybe five more years, maybe five more episodes. I don't know. Exactly. That's the way to approach it. And the Perros-Crioja situation got very close to heart in that sense,

because I'm almost 40. I started this in my very early 30s. I'm a very different person that was. the podcast started, people are starting to notice it in a good way, not in a bad way, but it's inevitable. You change. You like different things and people come and go and it's cool to understand that that impact has also a limit. And even in your life is also important.

And if it's not fun for you, you should listen to yourself and you say, it's a, I hope that I don't want to make people bummed. Yeah, no, no, no, no. You're having a very, you're having a very honest conversation about the nature of this. Yeah. It's very important for most of people, but you also, yeah, you're very important to the project as well. So if you're not feeling well, if you're not being cool about it, it's not supposed to go. It's, it's very, it's very interesting the way that you're committed to something that,

so many people are engaged to in that passionate way that you almost feel you have to be very careful not feeling a slave of your old creation you know that's the difficult part but also when you wake up in the morning and i have to remember this sometimes too is that the earth has how many billions of people most of them i would imagine in somewhere in their brain they're going to an office today, they would love to have a show we're 10 people and were engaged in that manner, right? Oh, no. Right. Yeah.

Listen, I mean, we are the product of a miracle. It's a miracle. It's not even far away from the concept of a miracle. It literally is. Like we were at the precise moment and the precise, we said the precise words to make people come into a ship and that's i'm so grateful for that and it's just it makes me so so yeah it makes me so happy to just being able to do that and and and then i build the traumas to like a trauma ship and also a lot of people come in from every single country in the world not only venezuelans

and it's it's become such a such a blessing it's weird to say it because i don't think taking that serious, like I said. But it just, it feels weird. It feels weird. I'm not comfortable being that person. Like, the person who is responsible to entertain that much people. It's, but like you said, that's my dream. That was my dream. My dream was a lot smaller. I have to be, I have to admit. I travel the world yearly with my friends and by myself. And the, the, the shows are full and I do like one day I'm in Argentina

and the next day I'm in Bilbao what the fuck what the fuck? You couldn't have imagined this 15 years ago you would have never dreamed. And it's just because of

yeah, it's just How many days do you guys record? How many days do you guys record in a week or in a break? It depends. It depends because for example today we're recording two episodes and tomorrow we're doing three. So, because that's because I'm on tour.

And we, that's our, our little, our secret and not secret, but. We do the same thing. We batch record sometimes. Yeah, but it's, there is, it's, Esquadana has never failed a deadline. Never.

In seven years. That's crazy. I think one time, and it's because we were very, very tired. And we were very honest, like, hey, guys, I know our, but one time. time we've done more than a thousand episodes wow so so that's ridiculous that's stupid that's stupid and the commitment's there and that's the reason that so it really it's not successful because we're talented

which we are but not the the the discipline and the constant like every every aspect of us being very professional is very impregnated in the project and that's the reason it's successful it's because we don't stop. And we, we, we respect the audience very much. Does EDN, I know EDN did Netflix as a joke. Was it last year or the year before? Last year? Two years ago? I can't remember. I think it was last year. I don't know. I remember reading that. I do not understand the concept of time when I'm toward. That's got to be like a totally mind-fuck experience to be running around and waking up in a different city every third day. And, you know, I know, I talk to all the comedians about this because it's the part that's the most interesting. My comedy lives here. I also have

small children, and so for me, I'm not touring right now. It's just not going to happen, right? I want to be part of their lives, but I understand there's lots of people who do that, but that's got to be a real mind fuck to wake up every third day in a different city. I mean, that's just like, and it's not like you're, you know, at the four seasons on a beach hanging out. You're in a room, you do a late night show, you come home, you get some sleep, you eat a cheeseburger, you know, you wake up, maybe you walk around the streets the next thing, and then you get a gun on a flight and do it again, right? So it's, you're doing it for the ride for that three hours you're spending on stage. Well, we, we've got into a place, a very lucky and dessert place because of our

work ethics, where it, it has become a little more comfortable. I'm not going to be, I'm not going to, I'm not going to like I'm not to talk a shit about the oh it's horrible it is exhausting it is psychologically damaging to to do and in my case in particular

for example we used to do big tours with squalada and a and then I go on tour by myself and repeat the cities all over it I think last year I did Chicago five times only Chicago in different

combinations. Like with the guys, I did three shows. And then I did by myself two shows. And then I did the 312 festival by myself. And then, you know, it's, and it because, I had a serious mental breakdown in January this year when I was about to get a divorce. I was about to leave squad a lot. I was, I was about to go live at Oslo and just, you know, raise a couple of werewolves or whatever and that and just die and die and i was like very well served i said i did my best and i just go it and i went to the woods and you were feeling it huh oh yeah because it was very i was very very i'm a workaholic that's my only problem and i really i am the complete opposite of a mediocre guy yeah and it really it really brings you

you to the floor once you get to those places and when you're doing 120 150 shows a year and it's not in your country you're traveling a lot you're doing nine-hour flights to do a small tour you're doing uh you're living out of jet lag you're living out of shitty food because it's not because i can't afford it it's because the time yeah you just don't have the time different. I don't have a time. And, and the flying, the airports, the, I, I, I think it's, and once again, it's such a privileged life. It's, I hate talking about this. But everything is relative, Nacho, everything is relative. Yes. Why, I get it. And I, and, and I, I, I, I, I, I try to, to, to, to, to land that in a like a yeah human perspective of it sure because i even though it's fun and it's cool

uh i i i also get very very anxious and very tired in general last year i was like you said i i thought there was impossible to to mismatch the city like to oh where am i i thought are stupid i did how does that happen to a to a shakira for example like shakia like shakia said hi peru and it was ecuador it's like oh how you're so stupid shakira how did that happen i understood that like i i i understood yeah oh no what what is it to wake up like at three a m completely bathing sweat like what the fuck's happening and not not like defining the skyline of the window like okay is this is this is this miami is the oh where dc okay yeah okay yes and yeah i i i felt that at the end of last year, and I shut down for a while.

How long have you been married? I've been married almost three years now. To a Mexican woman, correct? Yes, sir. I also like the danger. Yeah, you're also having trauma. I'm not sure which causes more trauma, the Venezuelan or the Mexican wife, but we can debate that off air. You guys got married.

That's going to be a great debate. That's a complete episode of... That's a complete episode where both of us probably... I probably get canceled and never get hired against it. I'm used to it, so I don't know. But, yeah, I've been married three years almost. And are you in, when you say you're about to get a divorce, it's that serious? It's just like the travel and the stress, and it's just too much, and everyone's stressed out about...

I just exploded on all fronts. It didn't have necessarily had something to do with my marriage or my relationship. in general, but it definitely had the guilt that I felt of not being home that much. And my wife's also, she's a very famous actress.

So when she, when she's filming, it's exactly like me going on tour. She's out of the house. For weeks at a time. Or even in the same city, like in Mexico City, she gets out at 5 a.m. and she gets back home at 12 in the noon

or like 11 in the night. and she goes like straight to the bed because she's exhausted and we had to understand a little bit of her dynamic of each other so we can integrate we we also she's exactly like me like workaholic best in the business very well uh very professional and very successful also so the pressure she has is very similar to mine um but but we imagine managed to understand where's or where's the well we basically talk to each other very honestly and say we have to take breaks to be with each other that's yes yeah and and and and we we understood that mission and we made it happen this year and we went to oasis in the UK and we did a lot of cool plans together but the the pressures of trying to be relevant or trying to be working making a living out of it and comes from my mind it doesn't come from me being hired by anyone so it's a little it's a different

pressure it's not it's not it's not it's not better or worse it's just it's the anxiety and the pressures of being the one responsible for your money to come in not in a hired way but in a creating way it's it's very different well i i've said this to some of my friends you know it's like you know, they have a boss or they have a thing or they have investors or whatever it is and those investors are telling them what to do and putting pressures on them. My pressures come from internal. If I don't make it happen, it's not going to happen. Or if we don't make it happen in the room, it's not going to happen. And that kind of pressure with no structure around the pressure, with no direction around the pressure, is something that is unique. Like, you know, some people can do it,

some people can't do it. I'm not saying better or worse or indifferent. It's just the way that it is. But it also can be the kind of crushing pressure. that you might feel if your boss was, you know, telling you got to get that project done or you're going to get fired. And but we drive it in, it's driven in here. And that is a different kind of stress when it's your own voice that's telling you, I got to get this done. I got to get this done.

And that also can make us a little insensitive to those around us because they don't understand. I got to get it done. Get out of my way so I can get this done. And I totally get people who don't get it and say, What the fuck are you talking about? You're vacationing all year. You're a fucking podcaster, Brian.

What do you do? And it's kind of true. It's kind of true. We have to give it to them. It's not, I'm very, I design it and I'm proud of it because I worked my ass off to get it. But I get it when someone that has a job that maybe they don't like, they say to me, like, what the fuck are you talking about? but you're traveling the world doing comedy. Shut that fuck.

And they have a point. They do have a point. They always have a point because the truth is at the end of the day, I'm very grateful that I get to fuck off for a living. That's it. I get to fuck off for a living. But I'm the one who has to get up and make myself fuck off for the living. Do you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. And I did almost like 10 years of doing something that didn't make me do a dime. That's right. completely collapsed economy that pushed me to a place where I had to leave the country. So it's not like, oh, it's been always like this, no, but I managed to understand that if I did that and if I survived that, I would get to a place where I can have my own drums. All right, two more questions. And then I'm going to let you go, so I know you got to record.

Number one, Andrea, who's a Venezuelan friend of the family, she wants. wants to know, is Esquela de Nata going to, or you, specifically you, Nacho, or you guys have specials in the works, where you're going to do something on a streaming platform, is there anything in the works? Well, I recorded traumas in Madrid. Oh, okay. So the special is done. But traumas became very viral in the summer.

So it's the first time I made a conscious decision to repeat a show in the show. a lot of cities and it's been amazing because it's so new for a lot of people even though i have been doing this show for two years which is completely out of my limit right now i i actually like to write a lot i already have my new show developed done proven uh ready to go that it's going to go next year but okay um i do have a special coming out i am negotiating if it's going to be on platform or not or YouTube like my YouTube channel like always where my three specials live

and I am just more engaged now with the control I have with my own social media and content production and the way I promote my shit I

I really don't I haven't had the opportunity to work with a Netflix or an Amazon whatever with a special I would love to and I'm always very close to closing that deal because I have a great relationship with Netflix. I have a great relationship with more. I just, for me, I haven't had that experience

of seeing how like a Netflix works with a, you know? With a special. Okay, so the answer is. But yes, yeah, traumas is done. Maybe I'll re-record it because I added some new jokes along the way. So maybe I'll do the special, like, again in December here in Mexico

and I'll see which one I'll release you can intertwine the two a lot of people do that right they call them pickups I can do that I can do that Chris Rock was the first one

to do that but but I think I'll maybe record it again in December because actually this is such so childish of mine but it's because

of one joke that I want to really one stupid joke that I came up with in the middle of the tour in Latin America and I'm like, this didn't get into the special. I love this joke.

And it's literally, dude, Brian, it's just one word. One word. It's one word. It's one word. But it's so good. And I like it so much that I'm about to dispose a complete production and do another one and invest a new one just for one fucking joke.

I really do. Oh, my God. I, Nacho, we're cut from the same cloth. I just recorded an entire podcast episode and I heard one joke when I listened like religiously listening to it over and over again before I release it. It's like a special project I'm working on.

It's an hour long. There is one joke, one callback that I think I could do that would just be like perfection, right? But it's like they say, the artist never knows when the last stroke comes. You just never know. And I am considering redoing an entire

15 minute segment that by the way took me like three months to complete just so I can get that so I can reframe it so I can get that one thing and I am not I am not a perfectionist I really don't I am very very comfortable with things not being perfect because that's the nature of being a comedian basically but this this joke I like it so much and it's so good that I had to put it in time I'm almost I always I even thought about like do I recreate the the stage just for this fucking joke and I dress exactly the same and I do a joke and then and I edited it in I don't know but yeah yeah that's all right that's one more but I had that one yes one more and this comes from a couple different people

and I know that the answer to this is difficult it's difficult to pinpoint this do you ever imagine EDN or nacho or the you know the guys whatever do you ever imagine the homecoming show do you think that'll ever come to fruit oh fuck yeah dude we we fantasize about it every day has you ever have you ever had like serious conversations with anybody that could make that happen or is that just so out of the realm of possibility no i do not negotiate with chavistas in any form or no that is and and we we've gotten offers oh really oh yeah yeah like like hey you come and i and we do this And you're a right. First of all, I don't trust you.

Second of all, I have ethics and I have a position where we don't, we're not friends. We're not, I, I, I, this is a very weird space to be in. But, uh, I do not fuck with any government. No government is a friend of mine. No government is a friend of mine. It's comedians are always opposing power. That's right. So I am not friends with you.

I do not criticize the ones to take another. I don't care. That's me. Me, I do not go with you. So, and you, they damage so much people and also me and make me suffer a lot. So we're not friends. So I'm not going to give you, I'm not going to wash your face. And like, hey, everything's cool here.

Yeah, you're not going to whitewash the situation. and say, hey, listen, everything's cool because I can make some money and I can talk to some people that I haven't seen in a long time. It will be such a, such a, people don't even get how many, how much money can we make if we do that. And I don't do this for money. It's never been my goal. So the money just came in because I'm such, this is such a cliche, but I hope it really

resonates with artists that are seeing this. if you're really engaged and you're very disciplined and you have your work ethics very straight and up the money's going to come by itself you're going to see your account

and you're going to see what the fuck just happened because you're good because you're engaging because you're working your ass off so but I really think about it once Venezuela gets freed

which is going to happen eventually yes hopefully in the least traumatic way, look at that pun, amazing, I'm a great comedian, uh, in the least traumatic, traumatic, traumatic way. Traumatic, traumatic way. Yeah, that's it. Um, and, and, and we're definitely going to, that's going to happen. And it's going to be a, a great, um, I was, I was just telling my wife. I deserve to have a second half of my life where I collect and where I, where I, where I, where I, where I get

not paid in money, but I get what I deserve of being a cultural, um, that sounds very I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I, I really want to have the, the, I really want to have my flag put in, in my hometown and say, I am, I, I, I, I, I, I work this. I want to feel my, the people of my hometown to, they, first of all, they deserve the, they, they deserve the, they. that I've been working on for decades. And for me, it's a dream just to be able to entertain my hometown and collect what I deserve of the hardworking years I've been doing abroad.

And I see, I always tell that with my Mexican comedian friends. When I go to the shows here in Mexico City, for example, and if they are from Mexico City, I always tell them, I told this to Richie O'Farrella at the time. And like, I envy in the most healthy way that you can go and do a show in your hometown, like a big show, and they go home and I'll have a sleep in your bed. That's something that's so stupid to imagine, but at the same time, it's so symbolic and so nice to understand. I would love to do a show in my hometown and just being able to go home. I don't have a home in Minnesota.

I feel that. Yeah. But, you know, and it's something that. it is going to happen I'm not dying with that I'm not dying without living that and it's I were doing squatter-a-na and I'm doing by myself

both shows are happening in Caracas and in the rest of Venezuela much earlier than we think so I when I think about the Venezuelan people and this isn't I'm not hamming up to the Venezuelans but I love them dearly they have provided me

in some ways family that I didn't receive myself and love and support and loyalty. When I think of the Venezuelan people, my heart aches, but I will never know what it's like to be ripped or forced from your country or having to move because there are no opportunities or you have to find a place that's less dangerous.

The Venezuelan people's plight is not one, as some people will think of, you know, I'm not going to get political about this. I just want to say it will happen, and when it does I can't wait to be one of the first I'll be in the front row with you brother I'll be in the front row

I can't wait but we're not that close of a friend so you have to buy your ticket second row you're buying but I'll give you the link earlier listen to that there are benefits of being fellow podcasters that's a great benefit

no of course you'll be backstage with us bro that's the way to go I love EDN And Gustavo Even if he has a very small dick He's going to be there We respect everyone Yes

Not only do I feel for the plight of the Venezuelans I feel for the plight of the small penises Gustavo First of all Congratulations on your upcoming marriage And your graduation Gustavo we love you And about this

You're going to be an amazingly deck doctor In the future We really That's great to eat you so my god he is going to just he's going to love me um nacho i would invite you back anytime my friend if you want to come visit in a couple months you're going to be in atlanta let me buy you a cup of coffee or whatever absolutely let's go let's go let's have lunch or something i'll be there i think that's one of my first theaters in in yes you're playing

the variety playhouse you're playing the variety playhouse which is a lovely lovely theater in a lovely part of town called Little Five Points and me and my small penis brother-in-law Gustavo are going to be there. He's already making plans to travel in town. So we will be there. I will text you. We will get together.

Nacho Redondo. Links in the show notes. This has been a true pleasure, my friend. Thank you so much. It's been a great conversation. Thank you so much for having me. Let me do something Brian has never done. Be brief. us on Instagram at the commercial break. Text or call us, 212-4333-3-T-CB.

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See your local Nissan dealer today. Wow, not only does that clock in at the longest episode of the commercial break ever, it certainly is by far the longest interview I've ever done. We've ever done. For sure. But I think it was worth it because I just, you know, two guys chopping it up. We needed to talk. We have to get it out.

Us guys, you know us. We're emotional creatures. We have to talk about it. We have to get it out. Get it off of our chest. We're yappers, us Venezuelans. even the honorary ones. We're all yappers. I think that's why I'm an honorary Venezuelan

because I can talk just as long, just as fast, and just as much as any Venezuelan that I know. All right, there you go. Nacho Redondo. Thank you very much to Nacho for coming in. I'm sure he's now running late for everything else in his day, but, you know, when you're on the commercial break. When you're on the commercial break,

you don't leave the commercial break to do something else. No, no, no, no, no, no. You stay. I can't wait for Nacho. to come back. I really enjoyed that conversation in case you couldn't tell. All right, nacho red.com. I'll put links in the show notes. He's on tour here in the States. That tour is in Spanish. So just beware, if you buy tickets, you might want to understand some Spanish or, you know, get on duolingo or something. Bring your, bring your iP, your ear pod threes. And then it can translate in real time for you. Yeah, and listen to EDN.

EDN is a really, if you understand Spanish, it's a really fucking funny show. It's fantastic. They talk all about pop culture. They have really in-depth conversations. It's not all shits and giggles. They go there. And I think that's why I appreciate the show. I know that's why Gustavo loves it.

And to my wonderful brother-in-law, Gustavo, we love you. We know that your penis is big. Okay? You're a tall guy. There's no doubt. It's big. I don't know personally, but somebody does. And it's huge.

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