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In America, I saw a bumper sticker that said,
Jesus is my airbag.
What a way of finding out he's not real.
On this episode of the commercial break.
It says a lot about kind of like male ego that I was kind of delighted.
But like as in, I just can't imagine a world in which like people going on,
is there a girl you fancy but you feel fucking awful for admitting it you know what I mean that's the thing that would be but that would be that
would make the press like if people were saying that they so yeah I was kind of I
was essentially the nation's pity fuck that's kind of what I was the next
episode of the commercial break starts now
oh yeah cats and kittens welcome back to the commercial break I now. Oh yeah, cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break.
I'm Brian Green.
This is the Winehouse to my Leap of Christian joy.
Hoadley, best to you, Chris.
Best to you, Brian.
Best to you out there in the podcast universe.
Thanks for joining us today on a DCB Infomercial Tuesday with Mr. Russell Howard, UK sensation.
He is.
He's just Robbie Williams.
He's the Robbie Williams of comedy over there in the UK.
And we're so excited to have him.
Feeling very grateful that he's decided to stop by the commercial break
because he's British and he doesn't know.
He doesn't know that the commercial break is not a place you go.
If you're trying to get the word out.
That's right. If you're trying to get the word out.
But I'm honestly, we've been grateful to have so many wonderful guests as of late. Roy Wood
Jr. Felipe Esparza, so many that we can talk about, but go check out those episodes because
they are, they are doing very well, Chrissy, on the, on the interwebs. There you go. And
who knows, maybe we'll make a little news today with our good friend, Russell Howard
currently on tour.
He's gonna be coming to the West Coast
of the United States here very shortly.
We'll put all the links in the show notes, as we always do.
And his special is now out.
It's really funny, too.
It is really funny.
Jeff was laughing, too.
Oh, if we got Jeff laughing, then we know
that we've hit on something special,
because Jeff doesn't laugh.
He's a humorless son of a bitch. Jeff is a humorless son of a bitch.
Jeff is a humorless son of a bitch.
You hear me, Jeff?
Loosen up, dude.
Actually, Jeff's kind of like one of the
loosest people I know.
He's very loose.
When he gets his bell rung, there's no,
don't tighten up, Mr. Green.
Ding dong!
They go in there, they ring the door,
they stick their hand in and they wave.
They drop a package off and then they stick their hand in and they wave, they drop
a package off and then Amazon comes in Jeff's door.
That's all I got to say.
That's how loosey goosey he is.
Anyway, Russell's going to be here and yeah, I'm very excited.
Speaking of UK news, it seems that Megan and Harry have done the right thing and they have postponed the much-ballyhooed
premiere of her, I don't know, cooking with Kate thing that's going on. It's not, is it?
Meghan.
Meghan, I'm sorry, cooking with Meghan.
Cooking with Kate.
That's the other sister.
That's the other sister.
Cooking with Meghan, she had.
Was it a cooking show or I guess like a lifestyle show?
It was a lifestyle show, but I think you did it supposedly.
Lifestyle.
Lifestyle.
If you want to get right with your lifestyle, check out Frankie B's new video.
I wonder if she watched some of his episodes to get ready for it.
Oh, listen, I'm sure that Meghan Markle is tuned right into Frank Bernardo.
Bernardo. Even he says his name wrong.
Bernardo. In the, Bernardo. Even he says his name wrong. Bernardo, Bernardo, in the
greater Chicagoland area. People, by the way, love Frankie B. I mean, every time we do an
episode, we just get so much feedback about our Frankie B episodes. And I wish that there
was more to do, but I think we've done run out.
He's got a girlfriend.
He's got a girlfriend and she's not letting him anywhere near the YouTubes. But don't
fear not, if you've heard any of Frankie's relationship advice, he'll soon be back to YouTube at 72 years old. We did find his social
media so that's good. But actually, I applaud Megan on this one because apparently she called
it a love letter to Southern California and all things wonderful. Listen, I personally,
I think some of the content that they're producing for Netflix is a little tone deaf in general, but okay, whatever.
I mean, there's lots of cooking shows out there and, you know, a lot of them focus on
the higher end.
What's that one?
The Ina Garden?
In the Garden?
Eina?
There's Ina Garden, there's Martha Stewart, there's a whole channel now, a whole cooking
channel.
Yes, there is. Have you seen this? Of course, it's been around forever channel now, a whole cooking channel. Yes, there is. Have you seen this?
Of course, it's been around forever.
No, not the cooking channel. There is a cooking channel.
I know about the cooking channel. I'm saying a cooking channel, like a chef channel,
a food-related channel that is dedicated to just like food porn. It's a lot of-
Oh, I've heard of that.
Have you heard of this one? I can't remember the name of it, but I saw it in a doctor's office
once and it was lit- I was waiting for like a half an hour and it was literally just shots of food
with not a lot of talking in beautiful settings in France and you know, I'm sure in the wine country
and all this other stuff. So, you know, I understand that there's like a- there is a demand for that
kind of content
that people like to see their food being cooked in beautiful settings and eaten by beautiful
people and all that shit.
But it's kind of a do or die for Meghan and Harry as far as that Netflix deal is concerned.
So I'm super interested to see how that all plays out.
Does this in fact become the hit that Meghan and Harry need?
As if they need any more money.
They got $150 million from Netflix.
But I do think the right thing is to hold off on that
given all the circumstances that are going on
out in California.
Oh, it's so sad.
It is just terrible.
We've talked a lot about it on the show.
And I think partly because it's hard to believe
that it's happened in a major metropolitan city
has burned like this.
I think partly it's
because we know people that live out there and who are our own agent has been, you know,
him and I have been in conversations and he lives close to one of the fires. And they
have been getting all kinds of notifications. You're in, you're out, you're in, you're
out, you're in, you're out. That must be a terrible way to live. And then they went out
without power for four or
five days, which if you've ever done is a very uncomfortable situation.
Danielle Pletka Yeah, that's incredible. I feel so bad, too, for just the children of, you know,
because schools have been closed, obviously, and things. And I can't imagine being a young child
and knowing that you're home burned. That's so traumatic.
Jared Siffman That is like, I mean, I have never been through a fire, but that has got to be one of the
things that no pun intended gets seared into your psyche and that you just can't forget
as a child.
That's one of the basic fears of humanity, getting eaten by some wild animal, a shark
or getting bitten by a snake.
I think those things were just born with because it's a fight or flight response.
Fire is one of those things,
super helpful, but very scary, right?
And if you don't, and it can go either way.
It's like it can get out of control very quickly.
So our hearts go out.
And Russell was supposed to be with us last week
talking about his new special that came out on the 15th,
but he's here today because he was in LA
and had to get out very quickly
to make sure that he and his family were safe. So Russell Howard is an extraordinarily popular comic out in
the UK. Some might say the most popular comic that's working from the UK right now. And he has had so
many television shows on the BBC. He has had- He's gone for like 20 years.
Yeah. So many different iterations of Russell Howard.
He did a... I guess the best, the thing that we can liken it
to the best, the thing that I think he's most known for,
at least from my research, because I don't live in the UK.
You are a British expert.
I am a British expert on television, that's for sure.
I love that British television.
And any time someone British from the British television
comes in, I do get a little fanboy-y.
I'm like, oh.
I know, a little giddy.
Yeah, I don't know why. I'm so giddy about British comedy in general. But the thing that
he's probably best known for is the Russell Howard Hour, which is a television show that
ran for some 200 hours over there. And it's kind of like our daily show. It's like satire
about pop culture and news and
politics, stuff like that. There is a ton of that on his YouTube channel. I will put,
Christina, not I, Christina, we'll put those links.
Thank you, Christina.
Thank you, Christina.
You're welcome.
We'll put those links in the show note. Also to his tours, to tour tickets that are mainly
on the West Coast, but if you're near, you should go check him out. He's going to be doing smaller venues here than he does.
Or if you're in Helsinki.
Oh yeah.
That's where he's going to be starting off.
Or Budapest.
For our...
Green hero.
Sorry, that was an automatic play.
Oh, okay. I see what's going on over there.
She's on Ros...
She's even she's bored with us.
I pulled up the YouTube to put the link in the show notes. Sue me.
So anyway, so Russell's doing that tour here in the United States. Tickets are available.
We'll put a link and then you can go to this Drift website and get access to his brand new special.
Highly suggest you do because even Jeff's laughing. Yep. Even Jeff is laughing.
That's right.
Okay.
So let's do this.
Why don't we take a short break?
We'll bring Russell on through tele-podcasting magic.
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Hey Russell, thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate it.
Thank you so much for having me. I'm worried about your, your sign in the background that looks precarious. It feels like it's gonna, it looks like it's
gonna fall.
We are not sure who actually put that up. So, there's a running gag on this show,
and it's actually not really all that funny to us
here in the studio, but technically we are inept.
It is tape, we're five years into this,
we're a thousand hours worth of programming into this.
You don't know how much goes wrong technically on the show.
There's tape here, stuff hanging there.
Tape here, wires there.
But that's the way, isn't it?
The best things, the best things in life are rickety, aren't they?
Yes.
Do you know what I mean? That's what gives them spirit. If you see a nice clean suitcase
at an airport, there's no mystery, there's no excitement. I want to see bumps and scrapes.
Well, next time you're in Atlanta, Georgia, you come to our house and we'll have to lift
you into the studio to avoid knocking over any wires.
Most importantly, since you're the only British person we're going to have on the show this
week, we have to ask who is Robbie Williams and why is he a chimpanzee and how's this
playing out in the UK?
Jason Vale It's so interesting because Robbie Williams
is a massive pop star in the UK and Europe and Australia, but never kind of made it to the United States.
And I thought that as well.
I was in LA last week and saw these huge hundred foot posters of Robbie as a monkey.
And I thought that's an odd selling point because presumably if America does fall in
love with the Simeon version, they're going to be so disappointed when
they actually go to see Robbie Williams and go, oh, it's just a man. Because it would
be bewildering to see a monkey with the ability that Robbie's got.
But that I would pay for.
Well, this is it. But this is the problem I think he's inadvertently stumbled into.
The film goes massive. There's going to be lots of really giddy Americans
rocking up, presumably with bananas and tires, just to fling them at him to see what tricks
he can do. But the British fans, I think we find it really interesting because it's a
bit like, I mean, he's huge. He's as big as Ed Sheeran in this country. So it would be, I guess, you know, Ed Sheeran, instead of doing like a straight documentary
is like, I'm going to be a flamingo.
Just want one leg.
Do you know what I mean?
Exactly.
To kind of make it, to make it different.
But I guess if people don't know who you are, it is utterly bewildering.
But there's something kind of cool about it as well.
I agree with you here is that like as a story device, I can understand why I'm the monkey
and you know, I play like a monkey and I sing for a monkey. And you know, I can understand
like there, it could be a deeper meaning behind it and it could all play out well. And apparently
it's been received well by critics and the Golden Globes and maybe Oscar talk. I don't
know. It made about $500,000 in its opening weekend
here in the United States,
which is by all stretches of the imagination, a hot flop.
So I don't think that the,
I don't think we've bought into this yet,
but we know Robbie, we know of Robbie Williams.
And when I see his face, I'm like,
oh, that's a singer from the UK
who has done very well for himself.
But the challenge is that, there's an old saying in Hollywood, never work with
children or monkeys.
And he went straight for a monkey and I just think, I just think maybe it was not as a
plot device, maybe not such a hot thing.
But is it playing well over there?
Are people going to see it and they like it?
I don't know.
I honestly don't know.
But the, because I only saw the poster of it when I was in LA and I was like, shit, is that our
Robin?
And he's a monkey now?
Okay.
So it was, but because of the backdrop of horror that was going on in LA, I didn't sort
of linger on that, but it was kind of in amongst the sort of black smoke.
I saw that and I was like, fuck, that's odd. But yeah, I haven't, uh, I haven't kind of sat and thought about
it, but it would be like, you know, when John Oliver got his break to do the daily show,
if he came as an animal, you know, you've got to, the thing is if you're trying to break
America, you have to then stay as the animal. Yes. Yeah. Americans are dumb.
If you, if you start off as a chimpanzee, we're going to be, we're going to be
confused.
I don't know.
I think, I think if anyone introduced themselves as a monkey and then went,
oh, only fucking around.
I'm a singer.
I'm a singer from Manchester.
Then I think the audience is allowed to go, okay, why?
But, um, yeah, I But yeah, I don't know.
But I was surprised how big the posters were because...
They're huge.
But it's a bit like, you know, Seinfeld isn't particularly big in the UK.
It just never quite translated, which is mind blowing to, you know, Americans.
But that culture of kind of sitting in cafes talking about cereal that didn't
exist in the nineties, you know, and obviously people, loads of people are into it, but it
isn't the, it just doesn't have the same resonance, you know, in the way that something like
Friends was massive, you know, or there was a show in the UK called Only Fools and Horses,
which is without doubt the biggest British sitcom of all time.
Very funny.
And yet nobody, well that's it, but you've got to, you know what I mean?
You've got to find it.
As an American, you have to find it.
You have to understand what does Peckham mean?
How does it fit here?
You know, so it's, I don't know, it's an interesting thing for Robbie Williams.
But then he does like stadiums in the UK. He's so big
that he probably just was like, I'll be a bit of fun, a bit of a laugh. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I totally agree.
He explained it, then when he was on, I think it was Graham Norton, he explained that the director
came in and said, hey, if this play, if we, you know, we have to, I want a story device because
the regular musical biography is played out, right? It's just the same, we're doing the same thing
over and over again, let's do something different.
I want you to think of an animal, what do you want to be?
And he said lion, he said, well, I don't know
about a sea lion, right?
So it's a lion.
A lion would be funny because the look of fear
in the audience, do you know what I mean?
Ah, three eight.
But then when the lion starts doing ballads,
that must be really bewildering.
What, how was your experience out in LA? You know, we were, we were scheduled to do an interview last week and Russell
was stuck in the, in the heat, really in the heat of the moment of right as the
fires started, it was, there was a lot of panic in the air.
It's horrific.
It was just, you know, and it's still going on.
So it was just, it was like, just this, I was, I was only there for two days, but you know, it suddenly became
this, you know, it just disaster. And then I was flying from LA to New York to do the
rest of the kind of PR and you know, there was black smoke and there were people crying
on the plane. It was, it was really heavy and awful and it's still going on. It's just, you know,
these things that happen every so often that are just unfair and cruel and yeah.
Yeah. And they seem to be happening more often, or at least we get that news so quickly now that
it's like, you know, cycle after cycle of kind of these things and we have friends and family in LA.
And it's brutal, eh?
It's apocalyptic. It really is.
It's weird and apocalyptic and you never, that's just not something that's on your bingo
card.
Earthquakes happen all the time, hurricanes you see coming, tornadoes you can kind of
predict something that happens here in the United States.
But flash fire that takes out thousands of structures is really terrible.
Russell, I have a question for you.
I want to just step back for one minute on something you said.
When you come to America,
you're gonna be on tour here,
looks like you're hitting a lot of the West Coast cities
out there.
When you come to the United States,
what are the differences in the audience tastes?
Do you have to tailor some of your comedy for,
and I'm really interested to hear this answer
from a British comic. Do you feel like you have to tailor a little bit? The jokes, I know you might have to tailor some of your comedy for, and I'm really interested to hear this answer from a British comic. Do you feel like you have to tailor a little bit the jokes? I know
you might have to take out some of the slang that you typically you might use that's familiar
to the audience over the pond, but tell me about that experience when you come here to
the States.
It's, I love it because it's kind of like, the gigs aren't as big as the ones, you know, not, not dissimilar to, to Robbie. I don't put on the, uh, the Simeon suits, but I kind of, uh, you know, I cover my own skin and
there's a better way of putting it than that. But I kind of, I, I, I'm used to doing certain rooms
in kind of, you know, in the UK and Australia and Europe, but-
Big rooms. You're trying to say big, you do big rooms.
Yeah.
Yeah, but still, you know, it's still that thing of like doing kind of, you know, a 500
seater or a 1000 seater is still wild and so exciting. So, and the electricity, we did
a gig in Detroit last time I was there, it was like a 400 seater.
Great city.
And oh my God, but the audience, it was just, it was so electric in a way that British audiences
can be kind of quite tough to kind of, you know, sort of fold the arms and you sort of
know you've got them if they're kind of the tits hang free.
Do you know what I mean?
That's kind of it.
But I've always had, whether because some Americans have found me out and they're excited that
I'm there, but I've always noticed the audiences more than meeting me halfway and kind of they've
seen loads of my stuff on YouTube or Netflix. So I'm amazed at how much they kind of know
and they kind of get me. I guess it would be a bit like, I don't know, you know, Michael
Shea or Michelle Wolf doing gigs in London, you
know, if they're doing Lester square, the audience
are going to go, are going to know Michelle Wolf,
you know, they're not, they're not going to sort
of stumble in.
Yeah.
So I love it.
And I kind of find it, I find it so fascinating
gigging around the country.
Like it's so brilliant to get that kind of street
level knowledge of America. Yeah. And there's so brilliant to get that kind of street level knowledge of America.
And there's so many different Americas.
And it's such a big country.
And, and, and it's the, it, but it is the country that the world looks to and it's in such an
interesting state of flux.
Yeah. But, but, but within that is so much kind of like social commentary and sort of like interesting comedic
analysis and there's things you see, like there's things you see in America you don't
see.
I saw a homeless man outside a hotel for dogs and it was this, like, so the man had no
home and the dog was on holiday.
And it was this kind of amazing sort of image of decadence that this man would
have a better life if he was Kim Kardashian's Labrador. And that is sad and funny and interesting.
But as an English person, I've never seen a hotel for dogs. And that is ludicrous enough,
but when you see a homeless man being
moved along, because that's where the dogs like to sunbathe, that struck me as funny
and unfair and wild. And it's sort of, it's a brilliant, dark, comedic analysis.
I agree with you.
Of the kind of weird disparity of wealth. Do you know what I mean? So that's the point
I make. It's kind of-
Will Barron And I think if you had three words to describe
the United States of America, it would be funny, unfair and wild. That is the story
of America.
Jason Vale Well, well done. Well, you're absolutely right. But then it's that thing who wouldn't want to, you know, take part of the kind of, you
know, get on the ride.
So that's, and then interesting talking, because essentially that's what standup is.
I've got a show, but you know, I might see things during the day and then being able
to talk them out with the audience, you kind of get this, I don't know, it feels like every
show is kind of unique because American
cities are unique. Like Atlanta is such a different place to New York, which is a very
different place to Detroit, which is a different place to Pittsburgh, you know, and you kind
of, yeah, I kind of, it gives you a layer. It gives you an extra layer as an English
comic because you're, you're on holiday and you feel
like weirdly you're representing your country and you're analysing theirs on top of all
the kind of natural stand up that I have anyway.
So I love it.
Do you poke at the politics of the United States?
Do you poke at the...
Yeah, I have to bone up on it.
I have to really, because, and by also, I'm really interested in trying to find the middle ground because it feels like so much, you know, so much has
been weaponized and people are, it's so tribal and people are pitted against each other.
And fundamentally, most people, people aren't one thing or another, but they've been forced
into it, whether it's politically or comedically, you've got to be this and you've got to be into that.
Whereas it's a bit like a buffer, you kind of pick and choose.
There's things that I am really right wing about, there's things I'm super liberal about,
and that's everybody, I think.
And the brilliant thing about laughter is that it's always, it's so kind of connecting. When you're kind of lost
in laughter, you realize like that for me, looking at the fact that, you know, you have
homeless people in a hotel for dogs, like that's interesting, irrespective of your kind of
political approach. And also here's the big thing, if you voted for Trump, that doesn't define all of your
personality.
And I think that's the big thing, that it's kind of, and if you vote for Biden, that doesn't
define, you know what I mean?
I'm interested in moving those things away and trying to find the kind of meat of it.
I think this is happening throughout the world, this kind of tribalism.
I mean, I only live here in the United States, but to travel a lot.
And I see, you know, my father-in-law who lives in Venezuela is fond of saying
it extremes on both sides end up in the same place.
Yeah.
And that's why you need that healthy push and pull.
And I am very much what you just said.
I am not all against everything that Trump says.
I am not all for everything Biden says.
I have my preferences.
But at the end of the day,
this tribalism makes people feel like they belong.
And I think that's really where the story is.
The story is there's something going on in this world.
And I think it might be the disconnection and loneliness
that makes us feel like if we are on a team,
if we are a Packers fan like if we are on a team, if we are
a Packers fan, if we are a Trump supporter, if we, you know, if we're British comedy fans,
we can get on and knock the American comedy fans on Reddit because that makes us feel
like we're part of something.
Where did we go wrong that this type of identification makes us feel like we're someone?
It's funny, yeah.
Jared Ranere Yeah, but it's...
Matthew Fahey That's the story to me, I think.
Jared Ranere It's because it would appear that religion
has been replaced with podcasts. I think that's what's happened. I think people have put down the
Bible, you know, but again, it's a really good example of like...
Matthew Fahey Fair enough.
Jared Ranere...of kind of people, I think with podcasts, particularly,
you have such a connection with them because people will be going to work with you guys.
You're in their ears. So you're part of their...
You hear it all the time.
You're totally. And it's a really tight, authentic, lovely connection. And I think,
if you don't have, you know, if society has changed,
and my God, it changed during COVID, it's kind of, it's so, these become the constants,
you become the constants, you're the chats, people are kind of listening to you and it's,
I don't know.
Jared Liesveld Did you, I read this, and I looked forward,
but I don't know where it is. Did you do a series during 2020 and 2021 where you were in your childhood bedroom talking
to everybody on a daily basis or a weekly basis during COVID?
Yes.
Yeah.
So I basically, my wife's a doctor and she was supposed to come on tour with me and she
was having like a career break in 2020 and she had, she was off work and then COVID really kind of escalated and
she kind of knew she had to go back.
And, uh, two of her friends lived with elderly relatives.
And this was the beginning of COVID when we didn't kind of know what it was.
It was big and scary.
Yeah.
Big, scary masks.
Didn't, you know, know what it's going to do.
Know anybody.
Yeah, exactly. scary masks, didn't, you know, know what it's going to do. Touch anybody, know anybody.
Yeah, exactly.
So her two friends came to live at our house and then I was kind of like shipped off like
an evacuee to go and live with my parents for kind of two months, which was a real,
you know, just on a computer, on the laptop
and then kind of send it in.
So we did that for two months and yeah, it was great.
It was great in terms that it gave me a focus and it gave people something to kind of watch,
I guess,
because nothing was getting made. So there was a while where, yeah, we were kind of like
the only kind of comedy show that was still being made. But it was, I'll tell you what
it was, the green room was less cool. You know, if you do a TV show, normally you kind
of, you know, you go into the bar afterwards.
Your mom's kitchen.
It was exactly that. It was like my mom and my dad, he was really into spinning, you know, you go into the bar afterwards. Your mom's kitchen. It was exactly that. It was like my mom and my dad, he was really into spinning, you know,
bike, bike riding at the time.
So I'd see my dad's sweaty mantis and, um, and my mom going, do you fancy a glass of
wine?
So it just wasn't as, wasn't as rock and roll, but you know, listen, it, it kind of, you know what it's like, that's
what we've been realizing.
That's when we started the show and I swear this may have saved our lives. And we do hear
from a lot of people, people who I don't know, I wouldn't classify them as lonely. They're
just human beings that are looking for connection. And this is part of the way that they feel
that connection. Some girls in a factory doing whatever, making widgets or whatever she does.
And there's a thousand hours of the commercial breaks she can listen to while she's doing
that and it makes her feel better.
And so I imagine, and we started this during COVID, this was more of a saving grace for
us at the time because no one was listening.
But yeah, but I imagine you were a saving grace for a lot of people also because you were some
kind of real connection on the TV that was actually going through. Have you ever seen
the morning show on Apple TV? Have you seen this? So Jennifer Aniston plays a morning show.
Yes, I've seen, yeah, I've heard of it.
So there's a whole plot line where she starts doing the show from her bedroom because she has
COVID. And when I read this about you, I was like, he's the real life morning show, Jennifer Aniston.
You're the Russell Howard hour is you're like, what, 200, you were
200 hours into this or something?
Yeah, we kind of, I think we, yeah, that show doesn't run anymore, but we,
uh, God, we did, we're just doing the specials.
We did like, oh, how many flipping heck. Like,
I think we did 10 series of it and before that we did like eight series of a show called
Russell Howard's Good News. So yeah, it was kind of, it was a long old, long old time,
but I loved it. It's kind of, there's a weird, I think cause satire has kind of migrated
over to the internet. It just isn't, the resell isn't there. satire has kind of migrated over to the internet, that it just isn't,
the resell isn't there. So that's kind of why they don't really get made in the UK anymore. So we
don't, we had an election and we had no kind of topical comedy, which is a bit of a shame.
But I think the show is brilliant. Thanks. Check it out on YouTube. Yeah. There's loads of it.
Like clips. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of it. And what's funny is the news is so cyclical.
So you can, you know, it's amazing.
Yes, you're right about that.
Watching clips of it and going,
oh my God, how is this still relevant?
How did this come back around?
How did this come back around?
Yeah, it's so fascinating, but that's kind of,
yeah, that's kind of where I,
I guess I kind of cut my teeth properly.
So Russell, you in your new special, which is brilliant, by the way. It's so funny.
Thank you for providing a screener.
I know it's out now as this show will be released.
It's out now.
It's on a platform called Drift.
Is that right?
That's right.
You can go to your website.
Yeah, you can stream it through my website.
So my website is www.russle-howard.co.uk.
And links in the show notes, everybody.
Should just go there and we'll link to the special
and we'll link to the website.
Also, this special is hilarious.
It's brilliantly funny.
It's kinetic.
Your type of comedy is kinetic.
It can be physical.
You're really funny.
You're really good at pointing out,
pointing out hypocrisy on all sides of the spectrum and
then making it funny. And I really enjoyed it. One of the things that you said that really
resonated with me, you were talking about how I think the way that my brain works, this
is the only job that I could ever have. And that really struck a chord with me because
you walk around life just like I do. And I'm struck a chord with me because you walk around life,
just like I do, and I'm sure Chrissy does too, we walk around life observing and seeing things in
such a weird way that if we said those things out loud in the moment, we'd be arrested or
certainly kicked out of the party. But then you get to, I get to get on a microphone, you get to
get up on stage and, and do this. Did you, were you always like this?
Did you always, was comedy always a pursuit of yours?
Yeah, I've always loved making people laugh.
My mom's very funny and my dad is very distant.
So it's kind of like the perfect combo.
Oh, it sounds like my parents.
Yeah, well exactly.
Sounds like our parents, yeah.
You're trying to kind of, you know, stop her.
You try to make her, you make him laugh and her not cry.
So it was sort of that really.
But yeah, I don't know, I was always, I used to, I loved school.
So I was kind of, you know, I was okay academically, but I really loved, you know, mucking around
and just like everyone was funny at school.
It just felt like it was kind of like a, everyone's chipping in and I kind of loved that and kind
of just grew up through that.
And then through, I found standup and you're so right.
It's like when you find it, I imagine it's how, you know, you guys said it's exactly
the same for you and you now have an output for it. It's probably like
being a sculptor or a musician or a filmmaker or a screenwriter or whatever it is, but you
sort of, when you find that valve that you can hiss your madness out of. And that's the
great thing about standup that when people laugh, to me, it makes me feel like they're going, you're not mad.
It's fine.
Because you have, but that's all I do.
I just, I kind of wander around and occasionally my brain will whisper to me and I kind of
write it down in my phone and then I kind of go on stage and see whether it's interesting.
But I wouldn't have
it any other way. It's not a particularly useful way to live your life. But I think
Bill Hicks called it the third eye and it's like squeegeeing the third eye. I'm pretty
good at the third eye. You know what I mean? Even in the midst of something, I can kind
of sort of observe myself or kind of, I remember getting mugged
when I was younger and even as it was happening I was like, it's going to be pretty funny.
Do you know what I mean?
I do.
And it's not kind of, you know, it's not the best way to be, but it's kind of like the
eyes go slightly kind of like cloudy and you're kind of, you know, that da da da da da da,
kind of right in your head. But you know, I da da da da da da da, kind of right in your
head. But, you know, I bet you it's the same with loads of people where we all kind of
drift off and then I'm fortunate that I get into this, you know, place where I can just,
like even the other day we were on holiday in Australia, which is a brilliant country
and obviously we've got my son with me and there was lots of pregnant women and their partners there doing the kind
of baby moon thing. I don't know if you have that.
Yeah, we do.
Yeah, I've been on one.
Yeah.
The sort of last holiday. Yeah. Really good fun. And I was thinking, like sort of in my
head going, like, if, cause it was, if you were at an adult only resort and you were pregnant, but you gave birth, like would you
still be allowed to stay? Like, do you know what I mean?
It depends on what kind of adults only place.
Well, yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't a swinging thing, but I'm sort of like, but you know
when like kids aren't welcome, I was just, and in my head I just started like laughing
at the image of that.
And like,
Holidays over.
Yeah. But that's what I mean.
It's a boy.
Get out.
J.M. Mr. Green, we'll be giving you your bill, sir.
You're no longer welcome at Chateau Adults.
S.C. Exactly.
And that was, but the point is, I was just alone in my own head and then I just wrote
it down on my phone and it's like, I'm sure I'll go to a gig at some stage and see if
I can knock that into something.
But do you know what I mean?
Do you do a lot of improving on stage?
Yeah, I kind of like, I used to do loads when I was younger, but it's kind of, I don't really
like, I don't like picking on people.
I've never really been into that of like kind of, you know, rinsing the front row.
Like roasting doesn't really, like English people, we're mean behind each other's backs.
Like we would never say-
You're very polite about being assholes.
Just want you to know.
That's what I mean.
But the roast, that culture just, I mean, it's beginning to, it's sort of slightly changing,
but I kind of think sometimes there's a fine line between an excellent diss and just being
rude to somebody.
Yes. an excellent diss and just being rude to somebody. You know what I mean? And it just it always makes me feel a bit icky if you're just if you're kind of
like the high status comic who's the expert and you you know you're basically
calling someone's mama whore. You know what I mean? It just feels very kind of like ehh.
It's a whole brand of comedy. Some people do know, okay, some people do find it funny, but it's, yeah.
But I think there are people who do it, like you said, masterfully.
And it's, they're not, it feels like at the end of the day, it's done with some
level of love and not at the expense of someone else's feelings.
And then sometimes it's just mean for the sake of being mean.
Yeah.
And, um, you know, there's whole podcasts filled with people who do that.
Yeah, but I think that thing of when something happens, like organically,
I've always been pretty good at like, I was doing a show in, where was I? I was in Denmark,
in a place called Alborg. And I said, what's been happening in Alborg? What's the latest? And this lady
went, we shot two elephants. I said, well, like, and I said, like, what, the Ula or that?
And she was like, no, no, no, the government. They said, why? A zoo. And you're like, what,
why was that? And she went, well, one of the animals, one of the elephants was sick. So okay and so the other one like and she was like well we didn't want him to be lonely.
So it's so bleak. So then that became this whole thing of like you know you should never
work for social services. Do you know what I mean? Never, never, never work a suicide
hotline but the point is it kind of, I love it when you can make something
that's happened organically, then it has to become part of the show. So the whole evening
was interlinked with this kind of knowledge of how they dealt with problems. But I love
improvising within my own head and kind of trying to kind of create
a bit of magic, but I just don't, I'm not into that whole kind of, you know, slamming
people.
I don't have, if somebody heckles me, fine.
That's one thing.
But I don't kind of go looking for the front row and you know what I mean, weirdly, I went to see a comedian and my PA, Andy, booked me the tickets and
she's lovely, but she kind of got me them.
It was like the third row in the middle and I was like, fuck.
And it was really, but what was interesting, it was really interesting to feel that fear. Pete Slauson Yes.
Jason Vale Yes.
Jason Vale Like, and I didn't want that, I was like,
God, and I'm a comedian, I know, you know, and yet in my head, I'm going, oh God, oh God,
oh God, oh God, and I just thought, it must be so awful for people. Like, some people must love it,
and of course, but some people must be sat there just praying that they're not going to be
eviscerated. So it just made me think-
I've been to small comedy clubs and it feels like if you're too close-
You're in trouble.
Yeah, exactly.
And listen, I'm a big boy, I do this for a living, we've been up on stage, I've seen
it, but also my wife who is petrified of any public attention from strangers, she already
feels the fear and then I feel the fear for her.
And we went to a comedy club one time
and this guy, his whole schtick was pointing out
people's physical appearances and then knocking them
without them having said a word.
Now, was it funny?
There were parts that were funny,
but he was randomly going through the audience
and I was like, please don't pick my wife
because I'm gonna have to hear about it the entire car. Please don't pick my wife.
And you know, I think some of the, okay, that's a valid form of comedy.
But it would kill me.
But the thing that interests me is how do you sleep?
Because you just at night, like my brain does that anyway.
My brain does that, you know, I'll be trying to-
Yeah, who did I hurt?
What did I do wrong?
Yeah, but I'll be trying to go to sleep and my brain will remind me of some thing I did when I was 16.
Yes!
Do you know what I mean? Like, do you remember that?
Yes, I do.
Do you remember that? Outside the pub? Yeah, what a dick.
What an asshole.
Yeah, yeah. And like, it just reminds you of these cringe moments.
Yeah.
You know, so I can't imagine, like, if you had a career where you were just like,
remember that time? I'm pretty sure she was crying.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, or you feel bad.
And it's just not, I don't know, it's easy, but it's just not as interesting as trying
to kind of zone in on stuff.
Agreed.
Okay, speaking of picking on people, I have to tell you this.
This is the most interesting thing I've seen in two weeks on any website ever
Right you on your website you clearly are a very popular comedian
Who's got accolades from all over the place and you've done it. I mean you're would you consider yourself one of?
The UK's most popular comics. Yeah. Yeah, probably. I'm certainly yeah
Yeah, your own government set up a website that tracks the popularity of comics.
Do you know about this?
I did not know this.
YouGov.UK. Is that your official government website?
Yeah.
I found a website, a web page dedicated to tracking the popularity of the comics that come from the UK.
Wow.
It's crazy.
Now, I'm sure there's only six people who voted on this.
There's got to be, you know, I mean, it's like this random website.
And the government.
And the government is keeping track of it.
Where are your tax dollars going?
I mean, you know, people might have faults with Joe Biden, but I can't imagine he's
got a questionnaire asking people what they felt with Chappelle's last
special.
You know what I mean?
Right.
You are a very popular comic, by the way.
By some, you're like number, you can break it down by men, women, Gen X.
I'll send this link to you.
You can check it out if you feel so inclined.
But Johnny Vegas, you know who Johnny Vegas is?
Yeah, I do know.
Have you heard of this guy?
The guy from Benidorm, right?
Yeah.
And like the glamping show? He ranks so highly up there. And I was like, I didn't even know Johnny
Vegas was a standup comic.
Yeah. He's a great, he hasn't done standup for many years, but again, so clearly they've
asked a lot of people in the North of England, but he was a phenomenal comedian. He was really like in his pump. My God. Yeah. He was, he basically
played the role of a light entertainer who, um, every, his life had unraveled and he used
to do like live pottery on stage. This is kind of like, yeah, this is like the mid nineties
and he, he would have a story about how his dad made him eat his pet rabbit. It was all
really dark and he was making pottery as he did it. Yeah, so I doubt, but maybe people had seen
him live, I don't know, but he's a really great comic. Well, listen, the only thing that I knew
him from was Benidorm. But then I got on down the rabbit hole and then I watched his show on glamping
I won't go too far off on this but I watched the show on glamping where he's just like he's trying to start this
Camping park, right? RV park or whatever by making these things
I found him to be a very lovely lovely human being a complete opposite of what you see on Benny
Yeah, he's a really he's a really gentle soul. He's wonderful. He's really, really
funny. But yeah, there's, I'm trying to think, there's a great clip of him. He did Just For
Laughs, the Montreal Comedy Festival. I think, you know, you've got to do seven minutes.
They have lawyers who check your jokes, all very kind of regimented. And I think he went on and did 15 minutes. And obviously this was before the, you know, the stories about, no, no,
the stories that came out about Bill Cosby because he kept saying, I could have been
the next Bill Cosby, but you lot had to fucking play God. And it's just this utterly bewildered Canadian audience, but it's pretty legendary.
It's worth a spin.
If you want to see a great comedian going down in flames, then I would recommend that.
Chris, he might be a, we might be, you know, beloved podcasters and he might be a beloved
comic, but you have never been named
the UK's weirdest crush of 2013. Did you know you were named UK's weirdest crush of 2013?
What's it all about?
Well, basically there's a big magazine called Heat over here, which is like a sort of showbiz and I was voted the weird crush.
So the person that I guess women and some men fancied but felt terrible about.
So it's kind of, it says a lot about kind of like male ego that I was kind of delighted.
But like, as in, like I just can't imagine a world in which, like, people going off, is there
a girl you fancy but you'd feel fucking awful for admitting it?
Do you know what I mean?
That's the thing.
That would be, that would make the press.
Like if people were saying that they, so yeah, I was kind of, I was essentially the nation's
pity fuck.
That's kind of what I was.
Do you get followed by the press over there?
Yeah, yeah.
So it's kind of like, it's kind of weird really, because I would describe myself as a famous
comedian rather than a celebrity, you know, and it's kind of, so I've never really been
to kind of red carpets or anything like that.
I've been to, you know, I went to my sister's, my sister did a premiere for a film once and I went
to the in-betweeners film, but aside from that, it's just not my thing. I don't really sort
of, so I've never looked in that kind of world of showbiz, but I've been on TV for like 20
odd years and you know, done arenas.
People know you.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's kind of, so when I do, yeah, when I kind of do press, then sometimes it kind of like my, during COVID,
we were supposed to be going on my brother's stag do, you call it a bachelor party. But obviously
we couldn't, and I was doing an interview with Lorraine, who's really lovely kind of early morning
kind of TV host. And I got out of kind of pint of of cider because it was supposed to be my brother's
stag deal and just kind of downed it. Just was in the middle of this, you know, like,
you know, essentially news more just like drinking like, like really rough cider. And
that went pretty wild. Like it was kind of all over just like Howard drinks for breakfast.
And it was just a joke to my brother and all his
cousins. So yeah, I have to be pretty, um, things sometimes, yeah, it's just that old
thing, isn't it? Of like, you know, like, like even in the special that that is true.
That line of, you know, it was in the paper that somebody said that I was obsessed with
the idea of running a gym for grannies. So it's just kind of, yeah, things I say on podcasts sometimes end up in the press. So it's pretty wild.
Well, we can only hope.
Yeah, man, I'm sure.
We can only hope. People can find the special now available on your website.
That's right.
We're going to put links in the show notes. He's doing a tour, mainly of the West Coast
of America, but we'll put the links there.
Oh, that'd be amazing. Russell, go ahead. Sure. notes, he's doing a tour, mainly of the West Coast of America, but we'll put the links there.
Oh, that'd be amazing.
Russell, go ahead.
Sure.
Please.
Yeah, I have been dying to know, because we have discovered the show, Naked Attraction.
Yes.
Oh, do you watch that?
Yeah.
Dying to know, have you ever known anybody that's been on there?
No.
Or known someone that knew someone?
Because, I mean, the show is so wild.
Yes. And it must go against everything that you think of, of British people.
Yes, absolutely.
Like, yeah, exactly.
But it's...
Yeah, no prudishness there.
Yeah, it's funny, isn't it? Like, America, it's so lovely to come to America because you
were sort of regard us as like these regal, noble beasts.
We do. regard us as like these regal, noble beasts. And yet, it's because we're far away from you.
We're close to Europe and they know the truth about us.
And the truth is that we have a dating show for people who don't know what naked attraction
is where the people meet naked and you have like five women or five men behind five kind
of capsules. And you sort of gradually, you know,
you lift it up. You start from the pelvis. So you'll just, you know, you will just see the,
the cock or vagina of the, of your potential, you know, a fiance. And they, they literally kind
of talk about their bits like...
Very clinically.
Clinically, but like in the same way you might talk about like buying veg at a supermarket.
I think one of the famous lines is, are you a moth man?
And this guy goes, well, you know, I don't mind.
However she wants to do it is fine. So it's kind of weirdly, it's like a cross between
a porn film and like a Wallace and Gromit episode.
Do you know what I mean?
There's kind of a lot going on.
But yeah, it's, I don't know anyone who's been on it,
but it's a really good question because presumably
they know people, you know, so their life must forever
be different.
Do you know what I mean?
If just kind of like...
Like a financial advisor or a plumber.
So we have broke down a couple of these videos.
So watch them here in the studio and then comment it on them as we're watching them.
And our listeners are floored.
Last time we did it, it was a woman with men and we just talked about penises for an hour and I think that probably half our audience tuned out. But
we have always wondered about this show. It's available on one of our streaming platforms
here, HBO Max. Now, I'm not sure how many people watch it, but we've always wondered
who's going to the grocery store the next day. I mean, everybody in the entire world
just saw your cock and now you're-
Nicole, naked, everything.
Yeah, exactly. And it's just, it's-
It's so weird.
But it-
Boggles the mind.
Yeah.
It boggles the mind.
It really does. And it's, that is the show, isn't it? You almost want to follow them around
afterwards.
Yes.
Do you know what I mean? And just kind of-
You're so right about this. We need a where are they now after the dates. And I mean,
I know they show the first date that they go on, but naked attraction. One of my favorite
oddities currently anywhere in the world.
Absolutely.
Russell's special is brilliant. It is available on his website. Again, links in the show notes
and his tour. And there is so much of Russell out there on YouTube.
We'll also link to his YouTube channel and of course his social media.
Russell, you are welcome back here anytime.
We are fans of yours.
Russell Marek, Jr.
Yeah, I would love to.
Whereabouts are you guys based?
We're in Atlanta.
Yep.
Well, I'll tell you what, if I get the chance when we're over there, I'd love to pop in,
say hello.
If you have the chance, then you've hello. Please, we would love that.
If you have the chance, then you've got our information.
We would love that.
And if you should come close to Atlanta and do your act, we will be sitting not in the
first row, but somewhere there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
Excellent.
Brilliant.
Well, lovely to meet you both.
Russell, you're the best, man.
Get back to that kid of yours.
Thanks for coming on late.
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So fun to talk to Mr. Russell Howard.
And I like how he described, he says,
you Americans think
that all British people are reserved and, you know, quietly funny. And then he comes on and
he's reserved and quietly funny. And very nice. He's so nice. He was great. Moe Gilligan, who was
our other British comic friend that we made here on the commercial break, and Russell Howard,
both of them are proving that British people are in fact a little bit reserved and very funny
and very nice.
So there you go.
And very naked.
What's that?
And very naked.
Well, there you go.
They're very-
On naked track.
I wonder, like, I think he, I think what he was trying to say is that it is as much of
a sensation over there as it is over here.
It's like, wow,
that's crazy. But I am still looking for that person that knows that person that was on the
show and what was their life like afterwards. How do you ever date someone again and not know that
they know what your penis looks like? Do you know what I'm saying?
Or use them as a plumber or your financial advisor.
Do you know what I'm saying? Or use them as a plumber or your financial advisor.
When I went to the bar, at least I knew that I had my sense of humor and that they weren't
going to see my penis likely for a long time.
If I go on that show, then I know it's all over.
All right.
Thanks to Mr. Russell Howard for coming in today.
We certainly appreciate it.
All of his stuff will be in the show notes, links to his YouTube, links to tickets to
his show, links to his special, links to his website, links to his social media. We'll
put it all in the show notes. Please do us a favor and go check out that special. He
didn't come here for his health, Chrissy. He needs people to watch that special.
Yes, he does. I think he will. He's gonna have a lot of people watching it.
Oh, I think so too, yes.
But we wanna make it a thing here in the United States
because we know that people over there are gonna watch it
because they love Russell Howard.
People here, do they know Russell Howard?
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YouTube comm slash the commercial break that includes all of our interviews
So if you want to see just how handsome Russell is compared to me, go check that out.
You can imagine both of us on Dating Naked, a naked attraction.
What is it called?
Naked Attraction.
Dating Naked is a different show.
They don't actually show anything.
They just tell you they're going to show something, but they don't really.
I just noticed the camera keeps swaying over to one side.
Are you noticing that?
Our camera doing its own camera tricks.
That's kind of cool.
There you go. All right.
Add the commercial break on Instagram.
TCB podcast on TikTok.
If TikTok's still around, I think it will be.
I think, I think he just,
Trump just invited the CEO to the inauguration.
So I think we're all good.
Yeah.
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Please talk to us.
We wanna hear from you.
All right, Chrissy, I think that's all I can do
for right now.
I think so.
I'll tell you that I love you.
And I love you.
Best to you.
Best to you.
Best to you out there in the podcast universe.
Until next time we talk, Chrissy and I will say,
we do say, and we must say.
Goodbye.
Goodbye. Until next time we talk, Chrissy and I will say, we do say, and we must say, goodbye. Kiss me.