The Commercial Break - TCB Infomercial w. Reggie Watts

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

Reggie Watts joins Bryan & Krissy today…let the weirdos unite! Show me your ankles A BBC prank! We fooled another one… A muppet newsflash! Reggie’s unique sense of humor Growing up in the 80s Max Headroom Hackers Pop culture & experimentation The James Corden Show First chair/second chair Robitussin Ketamine, K-holes, and Kratom Reggie’s essentially a chemist Making love on quaaludes Shoe horns! We’re gonna do newbrews together LINKS: Send us show ideas, comments, questions or concerns by texting us   212.433.3TCB text or leave us a voicemail Watch TCB on YouTube Creator: Bryan Green Co-Host: Bryan Green Co-Host: Krissy Hoadley Producer: Christina A.  Producer: Gustavo B.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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On this episode of the commercial break. And I, you know, it's like, I know no one does this and I probably shouldn't mention on the show, but if you happen to be like making love with somebody, I apologize, you can cut out the making love part. No, you can say it's true. Yeah, please. Reggie, come on. You are, I want say it's ruin. Please, dude. Reggie, come on.

You are, I want to tell you something. You are amongst friends. Literally, we're the only ones that are going to hear this. You're fine. I worry about it. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh yeah, cats and kittens. welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green, and this is my dear friend and co-host, Kristen Joy-Hodley.

Best of you, Chris-A. Best of you, Brian. And best of you out there in the podcast universe. Hey, I thought aliens was the appropriate noise to play today, as we have the very talented, extraordinarily unique beatboxing comic, Reggie Watts coming on for the T.V.T.C.B. infomercial. I'm really excited about this one. Because Reggie is one of my faves.

He's always been one of my faves. Chrissy, not always, because I haven't known him for that long. Not like we've been best friends since I was born. But since he hit the scene, comedy bang bang and all that, he's super talented. He's written a book. We have it right here. He's written a book. book I read it I'm gonna put it upside down there we go

I love that but Reggie Watts fast times post-punk and weirdos and I'm not I'm just gonna ignore it I'm just gonna ignore the fact that blue it's just walked in the studio like goddamn queen that she is. She's unbelievable. She's unbelievable. Go, get out! We'll be alone. Oh man. Well I know and it's funny too there's a funny connection

because when we told Jeff, my husband, about Reggie, he had that story to tell. I'm gonna ask Reggie about it too. The story to tell? He's a musician too. Yeah he is. Well that's a good question for Reggie too. It's like do you consider yourself a musician, a comic or some kind of hybrid?

I think I'm kind of like a futurist too. Like he's always like predicting the future. I don't know. Reggie is a very... He is a renaissance man. For sure. So we're super excited to have him on. We'll have him here in a couple minutes. But first, but first, I wanted to talk about something that I find extremely interesting. So not as interesting as Reggie Watts, but it is interesting. And that is, did you know that in 1957, the BBC fooled an entire country into thinking that spaghetti grew on trees? Did you hear this? Have you seen this? No. It is insane.

Is it like this day in history? Yes, this day in history, TCB style. I feel like we've been broadcasting since 1957. I did too. I feel like we have another 80 years to go. Just today alone. I know. This day is never ending. I'm sweating out it is.

It's never ending. It's been plagued by so many problems. It's just so fitting that Reggie is coming on today. It really is. We're going to end with icing on the cake and that's... I know. I wish I had like, I wish I had another one of those like, it's a new moon. Yeah. Yeah. When you were like, that's just the kind of bullshit I've been trying to blame something on. That's just the kind of bullshit I've been trying to blame something on.

You know what it's. It's Fat Tuesday. Fat Tuesday. Wow, we're recording this. There you go. We should be drunk somewhere. We should be. See the world is not right. It knows.

That's right. It's trying to pull us down. You're not trying to get out there. Keep on looking. Here's some beads. Go have fun. Here's some beads. Do that.

Show me your... Show me your knees. Well, show me your knees. How's the love text? Show me your knees. Show me your knees. Show me your... Show me your knees. Well, show me your knees. How's the love text? Show me your culturally appropriate knees. Show me your ankles.

As my masseuse did the other day. Show me your ankles. Okay. I got a 14-minute ankle massage. Call it a day. Why not? An origami lesson. Oh, the origami sheets. I got a 14 minute ankle massage called it a day. Why not?

And the origami lesson. Oh, the origami sheets. So the BBC patrolled an entire country. They put out a documentary on the BV fucking seat. And what they know- I love that sense of humor. Because the world wasn't as close as it is today. You just couldn't hop on a plane, right a few people I imagine only rich people or people with means

Would take a boat to go to Italy or get on the train or whatever they did back then to Italy that spaghetti Wasn't a thing that was very popular in Britain so because it wasn't very popular the some producers are still not known for their bosses. No, they're not known for their food at all. Let me attest to that. I feel like I am British in a different life. I feel like born in the wrong country. I love the British. I love their humor. I love everything about it. I love your country, your food. But I'm Irish and I don't have much to talk about, so there you go. They put together this entire documentary where they hung cooked spaghetti from trees,

like olive trees, and just rows and rows of the spaghetti. So I saw the actual parts of the documentary and these ladies were going around pulling the cooked spaghetti and laying them out in baths. There was a guy holding a basket and they would put it in the basket and lay it out. And they fooled an entire country into believing that spaghetti grew on tree. Isn't that fucking wild? Isn't that I just like, I don't know why, but mine blowed. That's to be 1957 BBC.

God damn right. The first Rick roll ever It grew on trees it grew on trees really guys a good tree. That's what you believe. That's what you had I I don't know. That's it. You know after the war maybe just people weren't thinking straight 12 years after the war Maybe that's they were doing like a drying action like because when I've made homemade pasta, yeah, there's like a drying rack and it could be like a branch. Yeah. This was officially they were trolling. It was like a purposeful, you know, yuckle,

yuckle, yuckles, the clown school kind of thing going on. Ah, good old yuckles, the clown school and dating advice. That's right. So if you get a chance, look up the BBC documentary on spaghetti growing on trees, because if now, knowing what we know, that in fact spaghetti does not grow on trees, then it'll be funny to you that to watch as people try and convince you I'm going to look for it.

That spaghetti grows on trees. The great BBC, the great British broadcasting corporation, company, whatever they call it, channel, I don't even know what it is. But you know, that's how the British role, they fund that BBC, now they have many other channels besides that, but they used to be the BBC, BBC One, BBC Two, they still have BBC Seven, BBC Eight. When you go over there, it's all BBC or Sky TV or whatever it is. We just don't have any kind of equivalent here in the United States Our broadcasting channels are not what they used to be

Let's just put it that way I mean, I think you could more of them bad. Oh, yeah, or does it mean that thousands of more does not mean better You know, I bet you could go ask like a 15 year old what a BC stands for NBC stands, CBS stands for it. And they probably would not even understand what you're talking about. They'd be like, what are you talking about? Channel five?

Channel five? Yeah, my dad watches it. Right. That's where he gets all his news about Trump. All right, the great Reggie Watts up with us in just a few minutes, his book, Great Falls, Montana, Fast Times, Post-Punk, and Weirdos, he's coming up on this show.

I can't believe it. It's yet another fine, fantastic guest book on the show that has no, absolutely no business being here, but we'll take it where we can get it. That's right, we fooled another one. We fooled it. You won't be fooled again Oh, yes, you've been fooled again So let's do this let's take a short break and when we come back we will be with Reggie

Yeah, I'm blue What's that Reggie and blow I'm guarantee I'm getting that blue out of here real fucking quick She's like, huh? What? Touch me, I'll bark. Oh, here she comes. She's like, yep, okay, you want me to bark? I'll bark.

All right, let's kick blue out, we'll be back. Okay. I know you're already on your phone, so pull up Instagram and follow us at the commercial break, and then follow us on TikTok at TCB podcast. Done? Perfect. Thank you. Since you're at the ready, why not text us hello at 212-433-3TCB? Or if you've got some drama in your life, a little fun story, or anything really, we're desperate for content,

call and leave us a message at 212-433-3TCB. And don't forget to check out TCVpodcast.com because that's got it all. Speaking of having it all, let's listen to our fabulous sponsors and get back to the commercial break. And we're here with Reggie now. Reggie, thanks so much for joining us here on the commercial break. Thanks for taking time out of what I'm sure is a very busy schedule to be with. The most important show in the podcast universe, the commercial break. I'm done Conan and now you done Conan. And now you're here. I've done the barbarians show.

Yes. Yes. And now I'm here. I noticed there's a pattern going on with our guests. It's like Rogan Conan. Seven months later, the commercial break when we just run out of options, we're like, all right, the commercial break. Let's go there. But you know what? Yeah, we are the most mediocre podcast in the universe. So it's okay that you're

that you're here here last. I want to ask you a question that I one time asked Dane Cook. So there's a lot of similarities here. And I'm hoping you give me a much more interesting answer. Um, what is the very first thing that you found funny that you can remember finding funny? Like just the very first thing that you found made you laugh. Yeah, it was watching the Muppet show and

they would have something called a Muppet News Flash. Oh yeah. And it was like this reporter that had like, you know, looked kind of like this big Chen like note, you know, what I know is like broadcaster looking guy and be like, a Muppet News Flash, you know, and and he he has this like little prompter paper in front of him and he's like, a Muppet News Flash, you know, and he has this like little prompter paper in front of him and he's like, there are reports of a strange identified object in the sky and then he just gets crushed by this giant bell. We're talking about the original Muppet Prime Time Muppet, right? Oh yeah.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like 1970, I don't know, 79 or something like that in 1980. And yeah, and like this bell just immediately falls on him and you hear this ding or whatever and I couldn't stop laughing for an hour. Because it's just like, it happens so quickly, it's just like, I'm up hitting you splash, there are reports of an unidentified. Pfft. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what?

Much more interesting answer than Dan Cook, by the way. You win. And the reason why I wanted to ask you this is because you have such a unique brand of humor that I find so funny. It's disorienting and funny at the same time. It comes out of the blue. It's like you have to really think to keep up

with what's going on on stage. And I love it. And I just was curious about where like your comedy gets its origins. What informed your comedy? And maybe you can help me, maybe you can explain it because you're you and you have a better idea of where you got that from.

Well, what informs that sense of humor, that disorienting out of the blue here it comes is that Muppet, you know, segment kind of tells it all, I guess, just came out of the blue. Yeah, I, yeah, I don't, you know, I don't know. I guess, I guess some of it is like the Muppets for sure. They had like a silliness to them that was very, you know, this is very silly and so it starts kind of with silliness and then I think Monty Python, when I saw Monty Python that blew me away and that was this absurdist silly humor and so I think it's just a it's just an appreciation for things that are silly and mixing it with not having to have to make everything make sense and connect. That ideas can be. And I

think it probably came from studying music, you know, where music, it's like you can throw things that don't make sense at all in a composition and it works. And you can, it can be disjointed and it can change styles drastically at any given moment. It doesn't have to make sense. And so I think with humor, just expanding it to humor and improvised or improv based comedy or whatever performance, I think that that's kind of where that all came from. Just being silly but I don't have to make it a cohesive narrative, like a little perfect sense narrative. So yeah, it probably came from that. Yeah, I think I've been a fan of yours comedy bang bang, college

humor days and I'm just so fascinated and I think that's a great analogy that you made with the music is there's no barriers, there's no walls, it comes out of nowhere, it goes places, it's not, you wouldn't expect it to go, sometimes there's no narrative to it whatsoever but it is very, very funny. Do you feel like, you talked about this in your book, which is great by the way, Chrissy and I both read it. Do you feel like comedy helped you break down barit... Look at that. Nice. That's my favorite on the messages you can do on your iPhone.

So for six weeks, I say Chrissy and I were sitting here doing the show and every, let's call it 15 minutes, shit started popping up on the video. Screaming like thumbs up, fireworks. Balloons. Balloons, little guys flying across. And we couldn't figure out for the life of us why this was happening. We were wondering if we were streaming live and someone was reacting to it. And we just couldn't figure it out until we realized that Apple had somehow placed, you know, some kind of emojis inside of our computers.

Yeah, whatever they call excited cons. I don't know Did you feel like humor was a was a like a barrier breaker for you as you you know, you were born Overseas and you came here and ended up in great falls, Montana somehow. Did you feel like humor became like a? Wall breaker for you up a great false mountain somehow. Did you feel like humor became like a wall breaker for you? Uh, I mean, yeah, for sure. I mean, for sure. I mean, but it's like, it's not quite like something that I was like, how do I survive in society? I better choose humor. You know, not that you were applying that, but just, uh, I don't know, I think some people might think that that's the way

that it happens, but no, I mean, I was just like, I was just naturally playful, you know, weird, like I loved stuff that was weird, you know, stuff that was like, that represented things in strange ways or it shows that made me feel weird, or I was always gravitated to strangeness. And so I think that that was there and then mix in the silliness, then my love of pop culture, you know, and then like referencing pop in order to like make it more palatable

for people, you know, those types of things. Like that all just kind of happened naturally. And it comes across in the music too. Chrissy, you actually have an interesting story about- I do. I ended up telling my husband that we were interviewing you, and he has a record, indie record label called Terminus Records. And he did a lot of work with Tucker Martin and Wayne

on the MyLab record. And he recently did those kind of a pandemic project for him to re-release some of his, some old things that he'd worked on old projects and my lab was one of them. So he's like, Oh my God, I don't know, you know, tell him Tucker Martin and Wayne Horvitz will definitely remember, you know, the my lab record. Yeah, for sure. It's awesome. I love that record. I was like, oh, the four plus the one ensemble record.

Yeah. Yeah. I haven't heard it in a while. Yeah, that was it was fun to tour it. Yeah, definitely haven't heard it in a while. Yeah, that was it was fun to tour it. Yeah, definitely amazing So when so were you a musician first like is that what you when you kind of came out? You were looking to be a musician or did were you looking was comedy a natural fit for you or just blending those two together made sense? I Mean I guess it just it all just started to make sense because I would use music You know in in my comedy or I would do parodies, you know, like Weird Al coming out with eat it was like such a huge thing that came out. I was like, what the fuck is happening right now?

This is insane, you know, like, yeah, anyways, it was just it just blew me away that you could do that You know and and then I started making my own parody songs and I Don't know and then also just the 80s pop culture wise in the 80s It was just I just I'm like so glad I grew up then because like it was like that the height of pop culture American or Western pop culture was it was just like, no one knew, you know, anything. Like how we got there. Like no one knew. They were just like, we're here. So let's party. You know, like, it was like that vibe. And so, yeah, so the stuff that came out was like so innovative. And for the first time, and it was experiments on television and television was the experimental platform. True. Like the internet is now. And so, yeah, so I was exposed to a lot of really crazy weird shit, you know, that is

still weird by today's standards. Absolutely. There's nothing like the 80s. Look at old Max after a minute or so. Tell that shit. Oh, I've completely rewatched that. It's like so telling of our current paradigm. I mean, it's so prescient. It's kind of incredible. It's a good show. It's fucking weird. I watched it during the pandemic.

I went back and rewatched it and it was just crazy. Yeah, me too. The craziest thing, I think I think is that and I think I think we're a similar age But the crazy thing to me is that that mechs headroom bit was based on an actually grew up in Chicago It was bad based on something add it was an ad But I broke that he like hacked into the local television station. Oh, do you remember that that was crazy? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that was crazy.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's, I forget, yeah. And I don't think to this day they knew who did it, but he had some kind of transponder receiver or something and he actually took in and they were moving this weird background while he had this weird makeup on. Yeah, to make it look like half next century. Yeah, yeah.

It was insane, yeah, like they hacked like the public television. Yeah, it was insane. Yeah, like they hacked like the public television Whatever or whatever station it was for like like two minutes or something like that or three minutes I think they did it twice. Yes, they did it twice. I think they did it twice It's like crazy and no one knows to this day Yeah, no one understands how they actually hacked it or who was actually behind it which is crazy And if they did something like that today, they would, you know, they certainly be underground in the jail.

Oh my God, yeah. You talk about they eat it. But that was that time. It was the 80s. Everyone was high and happening. I kind of feel blessed to have grown up in the 80s actually. Oh yeah. That, that eat it record. 100%.

I couldn't, my parents wouldn't let, wouldn't, even though my very first like album that they got me was Run DMC followed by Beastie Boys, they wouldn't let me get the eat it record because for some reason they thought it was rude, right? It was rude and I couldn't have it. And I wasn't allowed to get, don't ask me. Wow.

We are a Irish Catholic household and certain things were all women. We went to church for the first goal, but not for God. It was a weird, I grew up in a little town. Yeah, of course. Yeah. But my grandma bought it for me, the Eat It record, and we played the shit out of that.

My grandmother would buy me this stuff too. For sure. Oh, that's cool. What a cool grandma. I don't think she realized what she was doing. Okay. Well, you got lucky. But how blessed I was. So I have a question and I don't think in doing homework about you. I don't think I got this answer. How did you actually make it onto the James Corden show as a band leader? Oh, well, oh by the way great on that show. Oh

Thanks. Yeah, it was fun. It was fun times in the city Yeah, I mean Yeah, we I think I was just I'd just gotten done with comedy bang bang and I was in la for a couple more weeks and I was going back had just gotten done with comedy bang bang and I was in LA for a couple more weeks and I was going back to New York and then in that time I got a call to meet with James Corden who I didn't know at the time and went to this hotel Beverly Hills sat down talked with the showrunner Ben Winston and and James and then like I think at one point like I think they basically just said we'd like you to be the band leader and and James was like I

don't want anybody else I want you and I was like okay but I was like I just quit comedy bang bang and I was like looking forward to having like a some solo time and like to chill time you know figure out some other projects to get into so I kind of took me a while to decide to do it or not, but it took me like, I don't know, maybe like a month of just checking around stuff like that. And then, yeah, and then it happened. And I mean, I chose to do it and they, I asked them for all the stuff I wanted and they were cool with everything that I asked for. And then, yeah, then we did it. There you go. Yeah, you broke the mold. The coolest band leader at all of

late night television for sure. And it was a good run. I think James Corden just ended last year, didn't he? Yeah, April 28. And so I want to ask you a question about growing up in Great Falls, Montana. So you were born in a stoot guard. Is that right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's right. You were born in stoot guard and then came over and landed in Great Falls, Montana.

How did, and so how, how was it growing up in Great Falls, Montana? It's beautiful out there. I loved it in your book when you were talking about how you can just see the sky. You can see all of these things forming, you know, with these weather patterns. It's beautiful out there. Yeah, it's incredible. I mean, it's, you know, it's a, again, like growing up there in the 70s and the 80s, you know, it was just a perfect time to grow up there. Because you know, you're denaving network devices,

no cell phones, and a lot of autonomy, and a lot of self discovery. So, and to be in nature and to like sign up for programs, you know, like swim classes after school, or skiing, or you know, or I was in the Boy Scouts and we used to go camping and, you know, learn knots and survival skills and all that stuff. And that was really great.

But then also Star Wars and all the 80s pop culture was really popular. So playing with kids like Star Wars and like hanging out in the woods and, you know, playing games and going to swamps and whatever. It was like, it was awesome. It was like everything that stranger things depicts. They nailed it. Like that's that's pretty much the existence is riding your bike like as fast as you can to get over to your friend's house to play

Dungeons and Dragons or to play some weird Atari game or something like that. So it was kind of an idealic upbringing. And so did you find it was easy to make friends in Great Falls, Montana? Was that your was was it easy to come from out of the country and then make your way into Great Falls, Montana? Or was was there barriers to finding friendships and assimilating and? Yeah, I mean, it was I would say, uh, yeah, I was I think it was pretty easy. I mean, like I had a lot of friends in my early years.

I had mostly girl friends. Um, but then, uh, me too. And my early and later years. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you go.

We're best friends. Yeah. Yeah. That's the way to do it. Yeah. I agree. It's like, cause, cause, cause women rule. But more, more agree. More fun.

More fun. But yeah. So, but yeah, I mean, I always had like, I always had friends. I was pretty good at making friends. I just kind of was, I don't think I was ever, I don't think I ever dreamed of being with friends that I didn't get to be with, be friends with. Yeah. Like I think you just, I just made friends that I didn't get to be with be friends with. Yeah. Like I think, I just made friends with whoever was like down to be friends, you know.

And so I never really had a want or anything like that. It just kind of, it's just organically happened. And yeah, it was great. It wasn't, yeah, it wasn't hard at all really. Yeah, I feel the same way. I think like, you know, people ask like, you know, where are you in the popular clique? Are you in the band clique?

Are you in this clique? And I was like, I don't know. I was friends with who I felt like I was friends with. And I didn't really, I didn't, wasn't really bothered by anything else. I just kind of tried to tune out the noise a little bit. And it really didn't matter to me. And quite frankly, I like to be alone a lot too.

So that was one thing. Yeah. I did play third string what saxophone? I played third third third string. Third third string saxophone. Let's get it right. Third third third string. Sorry there's no string.

Oh yeah yeah yeah nice yeah no strings attached. Yeah. Fuck Russell first chair I wanted to be second chair because I didn't want to have all the responsibility of first chair but second chair was cool yeah don't know. Yeah. Second chair was cool. Yeah. I was first chair, second violin at one point. Oh, where is it? No, but that's kind of like being second chair, first violin.

I didn't want the heavy weight of first chair. I really wanted second chair, but they gave me too much. Yeah. I feel like the pressure. If you ride down the middle, no, everyone just kind of lets you be. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to stand out in any particular way. One of my favorite bits that you do,

you sing a song about Robotussin. Oh yeah. Yes, Robotussin and Benadryl. I think it's actually about Benadryl that you talk about, Robotussin 2, which I identify with. Robotussin is a nice dissociative that can really make for a wonderful Saturday evening,

especially when you're 17 years old, and all those girlfriends that you have, don't want anything to do with you on Saturday night. They're happy to talk to you at school. They don't wanna talk to you on Saturday night. Yo, yeah. Yeah, so I wanna ask you a a little bit about this because I did see Interview like maybe it was last week. I was watching this interview and you had a shirt on and I can't forget what it says

But it was about ketamine right it said something about ketamine Oh, maybe the cat cativerse cativerse. So tell me your thoughts on ketamine. I'm interested to hear this I So, tell me your thoughts on ketamine. I'm interested to hear this. I love it. I think it's one of my favorite drugs ever. It's a very, you know, it's like I kind of call the space that you enter into with the infinite liminal. And meaning it feels like you're in a diagnostic mode. It feels like you're kind of in the hallways between all the things that reality is, or at least

perception. So you're like in between everything. But and then in being there, you're also not very emotional. It's very kind of pragmatic, you know, in a strange way. And you're able to like, you know, depending on how high you get, I like going into a cave hole because that's an incredible experience, you know, to just like fall into this zone where you're not having to think about anything, you're just in a pure experiential mode. And it's so kaleidoscopic and fractal and just other worldly like just reconfiguring the way that you're seeing reality and perceiving it. And so really amazing. And then when you're not in a cave hole, but like still pretty high and

you're with friends, it can be this really incredible social situation where you're both occupying the same reality almost like you're in a dream state together consciously. Yeah. And incredible things happen in that state. I've witnessed, you know, at least seemingly telepathic things, you know, people coming up with the same experiences and not talking to one another, you know, or talking over great distances across a loud room at a very low voice, but still being able to hear each other perfectly. Very, very weird like stuff. So I'm really, and I've done music, recorded music, high, ketamine and what comes out of

it is insane. I mean, it's insane that you can even function when you're that high, but it's like things just start to happen automatically. It's like you're just automatically playing and observing yourself playing. So you're like listening to the record you're making, if that makes sense. Wow. Yeah, you're listening to the record you're making, if that makes sense. Or you're listening to, yeah, you're listening to the record you're making. It's crazy.

It's very interesting. So it's an interesting drug to me. Yeah. I've done it. Yeah. I've been in a Cahole. I find it to be a very fascinating place to be. It's almost, it is like having an out of body experience

is the best way that I can explain it, but and it is a dissociative. So that's exactly what it does, right? You disassociate from your body. And I guess that's why now they give it as a painkiller. I've had some friends who have been in, you know, accidents, trauma to their leg or whatever. And now they're, you know, giving ketamine as a-

And for mental health, you know, there's so many new discoveries too that people are going back to. Well, here's why I wanted to ask you. My shrooms, ketamine. Yeah's why I wanted to ask you. Yeah, I just wanted to ask you about it because the interview that I was watching, you were speaking really highly about ketamine.

And I had a friend, this was probably a decade ago, and he had something called trigeminal neuralgia, which is also referred to as the suicide disease. Oh, that is the worst. Yeah, suicide disease, yeah. Because it affects the main nerve that runs through your face. It causes these worst. Yeah. Yeah, suicide disease, yeah. Because it affects the main nerve that runs through your face. It causes these headaches. And he got it from, he thinks from playing hockey, like he was a semi pro hockey player,

right? And he thinks he got it from just banging his head repeatedly. He also came, that also came with some PTSD and some mental health issues. And he had tried everything, everywhere, all the time, every doctor, mass amounts of opiate related pain medication, all this other stuff. And the doctor at one of, you know, Sloan Kettering or somewhere, one of these famous hospitals prescribed him ketamine. And so one day I saw him sniffing something out of a bottle and like the

afternoon and I was like, what are you doing? Is that like nasal stuff? And he's like, dude, don't tell anybody this. He handed me the bottle and it was ketamine. And I was like, whoa, for ketamine, a prescription for ketamine. That's in fucking insane. How are you taking that stuff? And he's like, Brian, I swear to God, this is a wonder drug.

It has helped me so much and I can still function like I'm okay to function. It's a small enough dose that I function, but takes away the pain and it puts me in a frame of mind where I don't want to literally jump off a cliff all the time and I was like oh that's amazing now my experiences with ketamine like I you know I'm just a recreational user of ketamine and probably taking too much of it at times but I was just so surprised by this and I'm so fascinated by the pharmacology that we all as as children growing up in the 80s and 90s or teenagers or young adults in the

80s and 90s taking all these drugs experimentally you know they're legal they're bad they're don't do this arrested whatever and now waking up to this like wow ecstasy can help wow mushrooms is great can be great in therapeutic sessions ketamine can help people literally, mushrooms is great, can be great in therapeutic sessions. Ketamine can help people literally take them off the edge. And I like how you talk about this in a very pragmatic, realistic, but you're also, I don't know, in almost a responsible way. And I really thought you had some good thinking on that. And then you were talking about Kratom one and one of the interviews also. And Chrissy and I were talking about this early. What is your

experience with Kratom? Well, I mean, I first experienced it. I was doing this, I did this video series that I created called Drone Conversations that are interviews with other musicians and other cool groovy people that's entirely shot by drones but the the drones are so loud you can barely hear the conversation and so I did one with Thundercat and he showed up with this case of K shots he's great hey he had this case of K shots. He's great. Hey, he had this case of K shots. And I was like, what the fuck is this K shot thing? He's like, it's Kratom or he might have been pronouncing Kratom, but it is pronounced creative. And I was like, Oh, sure, I'll check it out.

And I did one. And I was like, Holy shit, this is an insane high. This is amazing. And he was popping them like every 30 minutes or something like that. I was just, I was like, how are you doing this? He's just got like, he's like a, built like a tank. But anyways, I thought I can, I can withstand some pretty high doses, but that was just too much. Anyways, I had one and we did the shoot. And then the next day I went to a smoke shop and they sell them there. And so I got a little box of it. I came home, took one, felt amazing. And then I took another one and I felt sick.

Sick. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, ah, maybe this isn't for me. And then I gave him away and then flash forward, I don't know, over a year later. And then this product feel free shows up on my Instagram ads and even though I hate getting ads on Instagram, I was like, well, that's interesting. And so then I ordered some and then I had one, I was like, holy shit, I feel incredible right now. And but it was mixed with Kava.

So it was like a Kava Kratom blend. Okay. And so you get the anti-anxiety aspects, calming aspects of Kava, and then you get the euphoric elements of Kratom. And yeah, so I started there. I really fell in love with it. And then started experimenting with like that. So that and THC Edible plus Ketamine produces an incredible high, like that stack if timed correctly. If you do the Edible first, then wait a half an hour, then do the feel free. I usually do the whole thing. Some people just do half, but some people get a little sick from feel free too. But anyways, you do that, that's what I did anyways. And then added the K, maybe an hour after that, after the onsets of both of those things.

And it just produced this insane high. Like I felt like I was all those pictures of someone sitting on a lotus, you know, like all the energy fields around. Like these graduated energy fields around them. And like, I felt like that. And when I was speaking with my friend, I was speaking in the most fluid, concise way I've ever spoken in my life. It was insane. I was like, what is that? And so when I hit that, that's really what I'm doing when I'm experimenting with these things, I'm calibrating chemicals and seeing where it gets you.

Is it consistent? Is it dependent on, is it contextually dependent? Blah, blah, blah. So that's where I got into it. But then feel free, it was like a little bit too grenade-like and I was, some people were like, oh, I'm having a problem with it. I'm addicted. And I don't really have an addictive personality.

So I was like, well, you know, I'll take breaks. I'm going to take more breaks from it. and I took breaks and I feel fine from it. But then this other product came in called New Brew. That is about half the dose of a feel free. Yeah. But it's they use an extract instead of using the whole cratum leaf. Okay. And feel and feel free you'll get clumping because there's actual plant matter in there. There's chunks of it. Yeah, so it gets like gloppy, which I hate because it tastes so shitty that when you're doing it and suddenly it like sticks for a second and then dumps a whole bunch in your mouth, you almost throw up.

It's like, oh, oh, and so with new brew, it's an extract. So they just extract it from the leaf and it's much easier on your stomach. I don't know anybody who's gotten sick from it like they do with feel-free and it tastes good. It tastes like a Yurba mate, no more plantier than a Yurba mate it would taste. So they really nailed that formula and now I'm like this is the perfect formula. On occasion I'll do a feel-free if I want to like do a grenade like in, you know, hardcore. But mostly I just stick to that. So that's my relationship with Kratom now.

Yeah, I took, I've taken Kratom and I took it, I remember the first time I took it, some of us telling Chrissy that someone left a bag of it at my house after a party. There was a party, someone left a bag. Oh yeah, loose leaf. Yeah, it wasn't loose leaf, it was actually in pills. And so I called the person, I said, hey, you left this stuff over here. I had no idea what it was. Oh, take a few, you know, it'll be fine.

I'll get in there next time, whatever. I took a few before I went to a movie with the girl I was dating at the time. And I remember feeling, this feels very much like I took a painkiller and had a couple of cups of coffee. It feels like there's like a- Yeah, that's a good description. Like a mellowing effect, like a Vicodin, you know?

It's you're feeling relaxed, but you want to go do stuff. You want... I couldn't sit still in the movie. I was like, I want to go organize my closet. I want to talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel... You're so methodical about your chemical use. I feel like you take notes or something. Everybody's brain is different.

Yeah, that's true. People respond in different ways. You've got to feel what's right for you. Yeah. I mean, I'm a, yeah, I just like exploring, you know, and I like, it's fun when you're, when you're experiencing some of these things with, you know, other people and you're able to share in these experiences. Like I recently ran into methacylone, which is also known as coilids. Oh, I didn't know they made it.

Which hasn't existed. Yeah, it hasn't been around since 1983, but some chemist, I guess, somewhere figured out the precursor in order to make the chemical reaction to produce methacylone. And so I got to try it. And it's like I can kind of understand why people would get, it's classified as a hypnotic. Yeah. And I don't, you know, I don't know, it's an interesting high.

It just makes you feel really groovy. It's kind of like a volume, I guess. I don't have that much experience with like, volumes and whatever the other things that are generally people abuse. Xanax and all that. Xanax and all that stuff. I'm not super, I can't really remember what that high is, but I know that it's generally like opioid-y.

Yeah. You know, like kind of, kind of, feel good and kind of numb to whatever. But heavy. Like heavy. Heavy. Yeah, yeah. Like you got like a weighted blanket on you or something like that. This is not that.

It's like that. It's that feeling, but it's hyper-functional. So you're still like, you're zippy, you know, you're like, oh, I want to do this, I want to do that. but it's hyper functional. So you're still like you're zippy, you know, you're like, I want to do this one, but I just feel great. And then like, and I, you know, it's like, I know no one does this and I probably shouldn't mention on the show. But if you happen to be like making love with somebody, I apologize, you can cut out the making love part. No, you can say it's true.

We're good. Please, dude. Reggie, come on. You are, I want to tell you something. You are amongst friends, literally I'm going to say it's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good.

It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good.

It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It'sud. It's it's really beautiful. It's like a very hyper connected. Like it's a really beautiful thing. But you know, it's also functional so you can just like you could

be at I've taken out a party. I like to take drugs sometimes in social situations and also in like, you know, comfortable at home situations just to know what are they like in different different contexts and in a party. It's really nice to you just feel they like in different contexts. And at a party it's really nice too, you just feel like, hey man. Hey brother. How's it going? Hey dude. It's like how Matthew McConaughey must feel all the time.

Right. I imagine sometimes you get recognized and you know, I know you're a kind person, an empathetic person and you probably try to do your best to, you know, be nice to everybody, right? But you're at that party and there's that annoying guy like Brian Green like, hey, Richie, what did you do this? Right? So when you were in third grade, what was it? Everything's great. Yeah, and then everything's great. Yeah, he was interesting to talk to. Yeah, he was really cool, very thorough. Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, like a new brew or a feel free also does that socially. It makes whoever you're talking to, you're completely interested in everything they're saying. It's amazing. It's like, it makes

you so receptive to information that you see it all as Great and interesting. It's it's it's it's really quite a great. I'm going to the head shop because the head shop has it I do it a new brew at the head shop. Oh you knew brew. Yeah, get get some new brew the CEO guy He like he's the he's the dude that turned me on to it They gave me some and then he came over and gave me more and we hung out and he's a really cool Dude and he and his brother started the company and Dear Nuber Hey, I know, hey, they might, they might, I mentioned it out here, you'll probably be down

Hey listen, the commercial break audience is probably perfect for Nuber, so come on board I have to say this, we just have a few minutes left but I have to say this, we just have a few minutes off, but I have to say this, I was trying to explain to my wife, who's Venezuelan, who's not so familiar with Reggie Watts, but I said, he's like a communications voyager. He's like reaching out to people in new, weird, wonderful ways, and I've always seen you like that

as a person who just kind of mixes stuff up and is trying to communicate with people in these weird and wild ways. And I've loved it. I've since a long time ago. I've just loved your brand of humor, your music, your style. I think it's super interesting. And the book is great.

Great Falls, Montana Fest Himes, Post-Punk, Weirdos. Reggie, I really appreciate you coming on today. And I know Chrissy does too. Absolutely, and I share a love of shoe horns with you as well. Oh, sick. They're the best. Wait, tell us about the shoe horns. Hold on, you can't leave it like that.

What? I didn't. Oh, no, he's not. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah, no, I love shoe horns. Yeah, they're a really great one. I use it every day.

I have a really good one. All my Gen Z friends are like, what is that? They're like, they have no idea what it is. And I'm like, it's a shoehorn. They might show them, they're like, what? Yep, that's awesome. I thought of my grandfather in that part of the book because my grandfather used to have like the, he has the old school, he used to have the old school.

The tiny ones. The tiny ones, but then he also had the very large ones too. Like, you know the ones that you slipped down, like when he got older, the older ones where he got down, he had a shoe buffer, an electric shoe buffer from the, I don't know. I'm gonna guess the 50s.

And I just used to play with that thing. Every time I went over there, there was nothing else to do except for the shoe buffer. And I just used to put my foot in there. You gotta take care of your shoes and your feet. It'd make noises. Yeah. Oh, man.

It's like, I could probably spend the entire afternoon talking to you, Reggie. We really appreciate you coming on. Thank you for taking the time. Hopefully we'll get a chance to talk to you again. And, you know, New Brew, come on, come on, born. Exactly. Yeah.

I'll tell you what, we get New Brew, and we'll all drink it, and we'll do an episode of the commercial break. Let's do it. Oh, yeah, let's do that. That'll be fun. I'd love's do that. Okay done deal. So new brew CEO guys send us some new brew and we'll get Reggie on and we'll say new brew all day long.

It's we'll call our show you the new brew break. Yes. I'm a whore I'll give it out. Reggie thank you so much. Go out and get the book guys we really appreciate it. Thanks Reggie. Nice to meet you. Pleasure. What? Thanks so much. Go out and get the book, guys. We really appreciate it. Thanks, Reggie. Nice to meet you.

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break. That's all for now. Let's listen to our sponsors and get back to the show. Oh man, the great Reggie Watts. How can you argue with the great Reggie Watts? You can't. It's hard to argue with the great Reggie Watts. You can't. You can't, it's hard to argue with the great Reggie Watts. I feel like I'd lose anyway. He's so cool. He's like the epitome of cool. And then he's super smart on top of it. And I always feel like Reggie's,

I don't know how to say this, like he's so cerebral, right? That I wonder how stupid he thinks I really am. Like I ask him that question. Like how dumb do you think I really am. Like I ask him that question. Like how dumb do you think I really am? I mean. Well, he's gonna come back. Yeah.

Well, they all say they're gonna come back. They all say they're coming back. But as Astrid pointed out, it's hard to say no, I won't come back. But I'm sure it will happen at some point. At some point, somebody's gonna go, nope, no thanks. That's probably when we get like, you know, Corey Heyman or what a Feldman on or something.

We tried to have Corey Feldman on. He just wanted us to pay him. I was like, no, I'm not gonna do it. No, not gonna get in the business of paying people to be on the show. If three listens is not enough to prod you onto the show, well then fuck you. Then fuck you.

If the great Reggie Watts knows it's important that Corey Feldman should know it's important. God damn it. Of course, I do notice that a lot of our guests, including Reggie, and there's no, and I don't blame Reggie for this at all. As a matter of fact, I'm also thinking the same way, and I'm not even half as famous as Reggie is,

that I do notice that they go through the list. Conan, Joe Rogan, you know whatever two bears And whatever it is. Yeah, they make the rounds and then when they've exhausted all other options They're like well, I guess I gotta go do that other show This one more they say they have listeners, but I yeah, they say they have listeners But I was actually on the show and I wouldn't listen But but in our defense, I actually don't have a defense. There's no defense.

Aw, that was exciting. I love all our interviews that we've been doing. Yes, I do, and I love Reggie. Thank you, Reggie, very much for coming on. Go grab his book, Great Falls, Montana, Fast Time, Post-Punk, and Weirdos. weirdos it's a great book it's a great read it's an easy read I actually think this is the kind of book that can be turned into a movie and I I think it should be turned into a movie because Reggie is just one of those unique comic minds that don't come along very often and we cherish it and it should be put on celluloid in a very funny way so that we can all enjoy it for many eons to come of course I'm probably 30 years older than Reggie and I'll die before he does, but whatever.

You get the point. You get the point. Well, Blue, Chrissy and I want to say thank you very much to Reggie. Yes, Blue especially. She's a big fan. Yes, huge fan. So much of a fan. She pushed over a 10 pound weight to get in the door.

She did. I must see Reggie. I must see Reggie. fan she pushed over a ten pound weight to get it and and i'm a city i must be ready and all right okay tcb podcast dot com that's where you go you find out more information about christian i all the show notes all the audio all the video right there from one location go nowhere else go to tcb podcast

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all I can do for this day. I think so. But I'll tell you that I love you. Yeah, I love you. Best to you. Best to you. And best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Christy and I always say,

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