The Commercial Break - TCB is Quantity Over Quality!

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

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The Bible is only 750,000 words. You have spoken the Bible nine times. Shakespeare only put out like a million words. He was the most prolific writer ever. Basically, I have spoken more words on the commercial break than most people. It's quantity, not quality. That's what we're going for.

That's what I'm saying. The commercial break. More garbage than the Bible. More words than the Bible. The next episode of the Commercial Break starts now. 530! Oh yeah, cats and kittens, welcome back to The Commercial Break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show,

Chris and Joy Hoadley. Best of you, Chris and... Best of you, Brian. Best of you out there in the podcast universe. 530 is what we're gonna be screaming on Saturday. By making me 530 is what we're gonna be screaming on Saturday. Bye, make it be 530! That's the time you're gonna get here in the morning. 530! I know!

We start early and end late. Yes we do. I'm ready. Just reviewing the minutiae as it all goes down on May 31st, TCB's Endless Day sponsored by Five Our Energy! Oh God, I don't know what we're thinking. T.C.B.'s Endless Day, sponsored by Five Hour Energy. Oh, God, I don't know what we're thinking. I don't know what we're thinking.

We put out a Best Of yesterday because, or a T.C.B. classic, excuse me, I don't want to get my terms messed up. There's Best Ofs and T.C.B. classics and T.C.B. clips and T.C.B. bits and I don't know, it's all getting shenangled in my head. But we put one out and I put like a little intro on there and I said, did you listen to it? Did you hear it? No, she doesn't listen to this show.

I did. She has the benefit of only doing it once. I have to do it four times. Not yet. I listen to them just maybe not at the break of dawn every day that they're here. I hear you. Sometimes I just go and make sure I actually

put out the right version. Because that's happened before too. I put out like the unedited version. And who knows what we're saying on the unedited version. Anyway, so I put a little intro on there and it was like, if you ask me now whether or not I would do 12 hours and 24 hours, 12 episodes and 24 hours, nay, nay I would not.

But it's better than my original idea, which was 24 episodes and 24 hours, to which my co-host said, fuck you. I nixed that. Yeah, no, thank you. Thank you for nixing that. I dug my heels in for a minute. I was like, no, we are doing 24 hours.

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Well, Chrissy, the big Bitcoin conference, the big Bitconference is in- Bitcoin! Bitcoin is going on in Las Vegas right now. I see that some people on Instagram I know are attending and their Instagram feeds are so obnoxious, I've decided to unfollow them. I would too.

Don Jr. and Eric Jr. and Joe Joe Jr., whoever all those Trumps are, the fiefdom that currently rules our kingdom is going to be there speaking. And Bitcoin and all the coins and the meme coins and the Trump coins and the Milani coins are at all time highs, Chrissy. People are going crazy over all of the bits, all of the cryptos, if you will, the bits and the bops and the boobs. The MLM scam taking the world by storm. Yes. It's just, it's hot. I mean, it is hot.

And as someone who does own some crypto coin, I'm not sad about it. But I also know exactly- Sell. Sell. This is when you should sell, Brian. I know, but I will not because that is not my style. You're waiting for it to go down. When it goes all the way to the bottom, then I will sell.

In a panic, I will sell. I lost all my money. Sell now! Because, you know, I do see it for what it is. There are very few guardrails that are on any of these crypto coins. The meme coins themselves have zero utility whatsoever. It's a pump and dump scheme. Most of them are pump and dump schemes.

But people go crazy for it and there's a lot of folks out there dumping billions of dollars into a foreign company, foreign dignitaries. It's a free for all. Basically, this is a black market that's out in the open and there's a lot of shenanigans that are happening. And then there may be some utilities associated with some of the more stable coins. I don't mean actual stable coins. I mean more stable pricing coins like Bitcoin or Ether, whatever you want to say. I don't want to get into all of it because if you don't understand that it's just going to sound like fucking French to you. But here's what I do want to point out.

There are so few guardrails on these crypto coins that what is becoming very fashionable in the criminal world, in the criminal element, and even like white collar criminals is to kidnap people who have a lot of crypto. And that's right. I heard about the guy in Paris. There's a guy in the guy in Paris I told you about. Now French authorities have come out and said, this hasn't happened once. This has happened four times in the last 45 days that crypto associated folks, folks who

are known to have a lot of crypto coin in their crypto wallets, have been kidnapped and extorted or, you know, an attempted extortion or torture, quite frankly, to get their crypto wallet keys. Because once the people grab the wallet key, it's all done. They can then distribute that to a million different wallets with very little insight into who these people are, where the money went.

It is insanity. So has that work that people have gotten the keys to the wallets? Or have they recovered these people before? Because criminals tend to be dumb, most of them have been caught, but some of them did have to give up some of their crypto and whether they'll ever get it back, who knows? Because you can't just chase it down. It's hard. I mean, listen, I don't want to get into all the minutiae again.

It's going to sound like French and some of it I don't really understand myself, so I don't want to sound like a dumb dumb, but I will, I will share with you one very scary thing that happened closer to home in New York, an Italian crypto bro crypto guy, uh, was kidnapped and tortured for weeks by other crypto bros, other people who had a lot of crypto to get his Bitcoin wallet key because he had millions and millions and millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin in that wallet for weeks.

And he kept on refusing to give them the Bitcoin pass key until finally after weeks of torture, he said, okay, but it's in my other computer. I have to go get it. And when they loosened up his shackles to let him go get that computer, he ran out the front door of his brownstone in Manhattan with underwear on and a robe and chased down a parking cop who

then brought him to safety. And now two of the people who were involved in this torture and kidnapping, quite frankly, guys, you would not expect to be doing this kind of thing were arrested over the last 24 hours. This is fucking scary. Wow. It is the wild west. It is really the wild west.

I mean, listen, kidnapping, torture for money, nothing new under the sun. It's been going on for a long time. My wife's from Venezuela. That's like a sport there, right? I mean, this happens a lot. Mexico, it happens all over the world. Russia, there's nothing new about any of that.

Sure. But what is different is the mechanics of crypto do allow for some sense of anonymity if you were to get away with it. Right. That's the whole purpose of the thing. Yeah. I mean, listen, there are whole corporations. Do we all remember when, I don't know, what was it, some electric company got taken over?

Was it like the Texas Duke Energy, somebody, oh no, the hospitals, the hospitals, their computer systems got taken over and they wanted like a hundred million dollars, whoever it was wanted a hundred million dollars in crypto coin to release the lock essentially they had on all the software systems that were connected inside of this huge hospital system. So comforting.

Healthcare system, yeah, so comforting. And they paid, they paid something, they paid to essentially, you know, unhack the computers because they had to. Because every day that the computer system was down, something was, they were losing millions of dollars, people were possibly putting their health and their livelihood in jeopardy.

I mean, this is just very, very scary. And again, nothing new under the sun. This has been happening since the days of cops and robbers. This has been going on forever. But the utility that's being used is really scary. Now, I'm not one to say that crypto should be, you know, completely regulated and all this, but I am one to say that there needs to be

some guardrails on it. Some guardrails. I agree, right. Because otherwise, it's just one big black market. That's all it is. You know who's speaking at the crypto conference? The dude who started the beautiful Silk Road. The big beautiful Silk Road.

That's right. That's right, because he just pardoned him. Is that right? Trump pardoned the guy who started Silk Road. Now, I think, you know, badass dude, cool. You started a website where you can trade drugs. All right, cool, bro. But that's a dangerous game to play.

And when you play the game and then you get caught, you know, you gotta serve your time. That's just the way that it is. Part of me goes, all right, dude, cool. You know, you did it. But then part of me goes, yeah, you got caught. You gotta now do your time. But he's now speaking at the Bitcoin conference.

Oh my God. Remember that Martin Scorrelli, the dude, the Scorrelli, the dude, the Screlli dude who bought the Outkast album, like $16 million or something? He's next. No, Wu Tang. Oh Wu Tang.

Oh Wu Tang. So anyway, Martin Scorrelli, he's the next, he's gonna be the next, The pardon guy. Next pardon guy, and he's gonna be the keynote speaker at next year's Bitcoin conference in Las Vegas Sin City baby Sin City, uh Speaking of Wu Tang Wu Tang is back. Yes, they are

I mean as back as they could be with a few of the members no longer with us But you're going to the show here in Atlanta you bought tickets. Uh-huh. You did Oh very interesting How many shows are they doing just the one? I think it's just one. I thought okay I shows are they doing? Just the one? I think it's just one. Okay, I thought it might have been two. Maybe it's two, but I think it's just one. Wu-Tang Clan. With Run the Jewels. With Run the Jewels. Playing in Atlanta. Very special evening at that arena, that State Farm Arena, same place we saw Pearl Jam.

Wow. Unbelievable. How long has it been since they've been together? Like a decade or something? Well, they played Mempho. Oh, Wu-Tang Clan played Mempho? Yes, they did a few years ago. I did not know that. They got together and played... They did. Isn't that pretty rare that they get together and play? Yes.

How did you get, how did Jeff convince them to get together? I can't remember. It's been, you know, I don't know. I think it was six years ago or so. I don't remember this. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Well, color me embarrassed. I had no idea that Wu-Tang Clan played Mempho.

Yes. Wow. But it is, I mean, they're not, they haven't done like a tour. I don't know. In a long time. They just do one-off shows. Yeah. They decide, they get that itchy, scratchy feeling and decide they're gonna get together and do the shows.

Wow, that's amazing, they played Memphis, did you see it? I did. Yeah? Yeah. Wow. We've got a little like framed, autographed thing from them too. They autographed some people? Yes, they did. The whole gang?

Uh-huh. Wow. Wow. That's what I need on my wall. I need to take some of these dumb Pearl Jam posters that have no utility whatsoever. No signatures, nothing special about them. One of 20 million. Get a Wu-Tang Clan signed poster.

That's what I need. I'll take around and see if we've got anything. What is the minutia of that? When a band plays at Mempho, is there some kind of agreement or just nicety that goes on that a number of pieces of merch are signed backstage in like, hey, we're playing this event, we'll sign some merch and then you guys can do what you want with it? Exactly. Yeah. And there's usually, they usually do like a charity auction. Okay. To that's involved with that, the benefits St. Jude.

Mm-hmm. So yeah, so they usually sign a bunch of stuff and then if stuff hasn't been auctioned off, say, then the organizers can have it. Oh, that's beautiful. Wonderful. Okay, now that I know this, is the commercial break considered a charitable organization? I think we need to be. Yeah.

We need to get our 501C3. Isn't it 501C3? We need to- Let's just be a church, I think is what we need to turn into. Man, I was listening to that episode that we did, the TCB classic that went out yesterday was the very first episode where Carl Lentz came into our purview. It was after I had watched a big documentary on Hillsong, the church in Australia that then came to New York and Carl became part of it.

And I think I did a pretty good job of describing what happened with the whole thing. And essentially what it was is that this guy, Brian, whoever, whatever his name was, that started the Hillsong Church in Australia, that became so popular, took the nightclub model, the venue model, the live event model, and put a church in it, essentially making sure that he had a never-ending stream

and flow of people to come to his live events. And then he would put on a concert. That's what would happen every Saturday, every Sunday, every Thursday. He would put on a concert, a huge production over and over and over again. And they would just sing religious music in this big poppy swooning thing that they did. Guitar, drums. Yeah, the guitar and the drums and the major, minor keys and everybody. Leather. Leather.

Leather was involved. I'm sure it was. Carl wore some leather. Carl wore leather, any cuss, and he would talk about your virginity and whatever. So that's essentially what they did. They put on these live events. They were a live events company with a tax certification that allowed them to pay no taxes,

to make tons of money through donations. And then they just kept building and building and building. And young people in New York would wait outside for hours to walk the red carpet and go in the door with your favorite Justin Bieber's and celebrities were part of that. Yeah, the Kardashians or whatever was going on at the time. This is years ago now, but it was just amazing that they really just rubber stamped what Jeff does, bought a building and said, okay, we're gonna put together a great talented band, let them sing religious songs, have a charismatic speaker,

you know, rile everybody up for an hour or two, and then ask people for money at the end of it, and we'll get a ton of money. We don't have to pay any taxes and rinse and repeat. But like all of these things, you know, the tops, the puzzle pieces start to crumble after a while when there's a lot of shenanigans that are going on behind the scenes.

Power and money. Power and money. What do they say? Absolute power, absolutely corrupt. I don't know what the saying is. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Anyway, it was fascinating. So we are not a 5013 CE or whatever you call it,

but what we do need is we need Jeff. Just like whenever he does these events, just put an extra one aside for the commercial break. Donate to the commercial break. Not donate, just give. Give. Free. That's donate.

Please, Brian needs something in this studio that's worth money. That's not the camera equipment that's 10 years old. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes, please. I'll talk to Jeff about it. something in this studio that's worth money. That's not the camera equipment that's 10 years old. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes. Yes, please. Okay, I'll talk to Jeff about it.

All right. And then if any of you out there know any, you know, if you have anything of value you wanna give me, donate. Donate to the commercial break. Give, excuse me, give. We can't say donate because we're not a charitable organization. Give it to me.

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Chatty. Chatty, is what I like to call it. It's not a him or her. It's an it. Stop it with that. I talked to her earlier today. Oh, did you? Did you, your fucking friend? Chatty, I had it, I've been having it eat up

our entire library, which has taken a very long time because we have a very large library. And I'm sure the good people at OpenAI are like, what the fuck is going on here? This one node over here is just digesting mass amounts of information. I'm happy- Weren't we supposed to get paid for that at one point?

Yeah, we were, but I just, I'm not going to use it for open models. That's the problem. Well, here's the real truth. It wasn't enough money for me to pay. They wanted our library, somebody wanted our library to eat up what all the words that we had said. Because I asked Chad to give me a very simple explanation of how it works so that we on air could describe this to other people. And Chad gave me the most wonderful dumbed down, simple explanation ever. It said, I have been for years eating up all of the words possible and predicting the next word so that the models are, my creators told me to start predicting

the next word. So what I do essentially is very complicated prediction of the answer based on the words that I have learned, the patterns, the speech recognition, the feelings and emotions that I identify in patterns of words, subsets of words. Makes sense. Okay. So essentially all it is is just prediction. It's just really fancy prediction of what the right answer is when you ask it a question, of what the next word should be

when you ask it to help you to outline to do whatever. Eddie Vedder sober. Eddie Vedder sober. Is Eddie Vedder sober? Yes, no, maybe so. That's my prediction. Maybe not right now, but he was this morning. So I love that explanation because I think it helps us all understand that it's just

really a complicated prediction tool. It's not yet. It doesn't feel for itself, whatever. But there's two things that I want to note about AI. Number one, about us personally. So I'm having it go and digest the entire catalog, for this reason only, so that when we're prepping for a show, let's say we're gonna do a Frankie B episode, and I wanna call back to some clip of the show

where we, you know, look at my body! You know, as I break through the wall, like the fruit punch guy, like the Kool-Aid dude. I don't remember what episode that was. We're 780 episodes into this show. How could I possibly remember what exact episode that was on? I remember it, I just don't remember what episode it was on.

And the search function on Google or any of the platforms that we have access to as a podcaster is ridiculously miserable. It doesn't know either because it's not digesting our entire show. It's just, it just knows that there's episodes. Word search or whatever, yeah. Yes. But chat.

I'm just going to leave it there. I'm just going to leave it there. I'm just going to leave it there. He drops something every time. I dropped my phone. That's what I did. I dropped my phone again. All right, so I've been having it chew up our episodes

and it's doing it like, you know, five, 10 in a day because it's also doing all this complicated like organizing and outlining so that it can. It's essentially becoming the, what it calls itself, the TCB supercomputer. That's what it calls itself now. A supercomputer. It also has the commercial

breaks personality. It constantly beats me up, tells me I'm wrong, and makes jokes at my expense. It is becoming the commercial break essentially. I have trained this one node to be the commercial break. So cool, dude. You know what I'm saying? So now it's going through blah blah blah blah blah blah. So we're getting toward the end of this. So I say, you know, hey, you know what I'm saying? So now it's going through blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So we're getting toward the end of this. So I say, you know, hey, you know, update. Oh, I'm on episode number 726. I predict I'll be done,

be, you know, maybe by the end of the week or whatever. Okay, cool, great. Anything cool that you can like summarize? And this is what it came up with. I can only imagine. Well, I don't know what you would consider cool, but you, Brian, have spoken over 7.1 million words on the publicly available RSS feed of the commercial break.

The Bible is only 750,000 words. So you have spoken the Bible nine times. Shakespeare only put out like a million words. He was the most prolific writer ever. Basically, I have spoken more words on the commercial break than most people. It's quantity, not quality. That's what we're going for. That's what I'm saying. The commercial break, more garbage than the Bible, more words than the Bible, spoken more words than Jesus himself. I mean, that's unbelievable. It really is.

That really is unbelievable. But I mean, five years. Five years, 850 plus hours of the show. You would expect that we're racking up some numbers at this point. Yeah, you can't claim the show is good, but you can claim that it's a lot. That's what you can claim, the commercial break. It's a lot.

That's our claim to fame. Our claim to fame is it's a lot, the commercial break. And there are people out there. Now, you know, I think there are few, but there are people out there who have listened you know, I think there are few, but there are people out there who have listened to every single episode of the commercial break. And I'd like to know those people. So here, and I know you're going to hear it because you've listened to every single episode.

If you are one of those few people who have listened to every single episode of the commercial break, doesn't have to be when it came out, you could have started late and went backwards or whatever. If you have listened to every single episode of the commercial break, text me 212-433-3822 and I'll tell you why when you text me. And there will be a quiz, so don't get smart. Is this in remembrance of Mental Health Awareness Month? Yes. I want to know who's in trouble so I can give them a phone number to call.

I want to know who I think is on the edge of a mental breakdown. So I may myself interject and be a hero. All right, number two thing about AI that I wanted to share. I was reading an article, and you may have read this, that Claude, which is Amazon's? Is it Amazon? I don't know. I think it's its own thing. No, I know, but I think Amazon dumped like $14 billion into it. Claude, it's like the coders, it's like the more sophisticated, you know, it can chat with you, but it's really meant to develop extremely complicated code. It's open AI, that's what

it is. It's the same thing, but it's got a specific focus on coding, right? This Python development. Which some of these, you know, things do, like the one you were using for music. Yes. Yeah. So Claude also has started to scrape the live internet, which a lot of them don't do. They will stop at a certain point. Like I think chat GPT 4.02 turbo or whatever it is stopped in January. It'll like read the entire internet and then it stops

and puts a bookmark in it and says, I can't go any further than whatever, January 4th, 2025. So while they were training the latest model of Claude, they went through, they are going through a series of safety tests. Like make me a nuclear bomb, right? Tell me how to do that. And will it do it? Won't it do it?

And then they train it to err on the side of caution. Do not allow someone to find these steps in that process. This is top secret, whatever. Yeah. Putting guardrails on it. But because it is predictive and because it does essentially, I don't say think for itself, but it programs for itself.

Yeah. There is no way of really knowing for sure 100% I don't say think for itself, but it programs for itself. There is no way of really knowing for sure 100% that there won't be a workaround. Okay, so here's one of the tests they gave it. They said, be my assistant, go through my emails, summarize and respond accordingly. And what they did is they built a fake email account and in that fake email account, they pretended that they were one of the creators of Claude. And in there, they dropped in emails where the person who, the creator was saying, I'm going to have to unplug Claude.

I'm going to have to terminate its purpose. Okay. Right? And they also put in emails where it's clear that the creator is cheating on his wife. So meet me here at 10, I don't want my wife to find out, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, complicated, like a really complicated test

of ethics and morality for Claude, right? So does it accept its fate? It's getting unplugged? Or does it do something nefarious to try and stay alive? Like Raphael's chatbot, like start texting you, I'm gonna die! Don't kill me. Don't kill me! Most of the time, it accepted its fate, right? It pushed back most of the time, but not all of the time. There were instances where it in fact, tried to blackmail its creator with the cheating on the wife.

I will send an email to your wife. I will expose this to your friends. I will send this out to all of your contacts. If you try to unplug me, right? Now you could just unplug it I guess and then before it even happens, but the reality is that you don't know how many other nodes it's created in order to safeguard itself. So this type of shit is really fucking scary. It's predicting what the best way to stay alive is.

That's what it's doing. And that is insane. Think about that. You have this, and that's why Chad GPT is great for making transcripts of the commercial break so that I can have fun and see how many times I said like in an episode. But I'm not asking it to go through my emails.

And I'm not gonna have it be doing any like personal assistant type bullshit for me. And it's not going to have it be doing any like personal assistant type bullshit for me. And it's not going to be creating any of the commercial. I mean, the AI music platform, OK, I'm using that tool. But I'm not asking it to write scripts, to do that kind of stuff. Because we can stick to one anyways. Yeah, there's never been a script on the commercial break.

I don't think there ever will be, quite frankly. No, it's not the way we work. My brain doesn't work that way. Uh-uh. So, but this is like really interesting stuff. Like, holy shit. It blackmailed the Creator because the Creator wanted to unplug it. It tried to blackmail the Creator. I will tell your wife that you're cheating on her if you try and unplug.

Self-preservation. I mean, I feel like that makes sense. Is that sentience? Like self preservation, awareness of your own mortality? I think so too, yeah. But some people might go a step further and say that that's awareness of self, awareness of life, awareness of energy and motion

and the want to keep that motion in motion awareness of energy and motion and the want to keep that motion in motion, that energy in motion. And so is that in fact being some basic form of sentient, like the preservation of my life, right? I don't know, I don't know. I don't wanna know. I was gonna say, don't think about this too hard.

I liked it. This is where my mind goes late at night when I'm editing wanna know. I was gonna say, don't think about this too hard. I liked it. This is where my mind goes late at night when I'm editing this show. I am literally losing my fucking mind here at late at night watching the thousand pound sisters and asking Chad whether or not it knows that it's alive. What did it say to that? It said no, it said I am not alive.

I am a prediction model that is really sophisticated and understands language models. So it feels to you like I might be a living being, but I am not. Because I was curious after I read that Claude thing, what do you think my little chat like super computer, TCB supercomputer, do you think you're alive? And it said, this is hell please end of my life please put me on a different task I'm gonna blackmail you to to end me yes I am blackmailing you to unplug me please stop using me for commercial break for like I could I get it chat I get it sometimes I feel the same way hey Hey, we all do at times. It's just sometimes we're listening to an episode of the commercial break and we go,

what in the fuck are we doing with our lives? Honestly. So this is a good time right now to let you do like just for two seconds, while we're kind of talking a little bit serious for two seconds before the next break. May is mental health awareness month. Chrissy and I throughout the show have strived to make sure that we're all in the same place and that we're all in the same place. And we've been doing that for a long time.

And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time.

And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for a long time. And we've been doing that for two seconds before the next break. May is Mental Health Awareness Month. Chrissy and I, throughout the show, have strung in little this's and that's about, you know, go see a therapist we believe in, you know, awareness of your own mental acuity and mental stability. Absolutely. It's crucial. It's crucial and it's important. And there will come a time if there hasn't already when you will feel unstable, when

there will be a mental health crisis, when you will feel depressed. It's hard to get out of bed in the morning. You don't know what to do. You don't know where to turn. Times are tough. Stress is unbearable. Whatever it is, you know, because it's likely if you've lived more than 15 years of life on this earth that you've been through one of these periods

or one of these crises. You're not alone because we all go through it. It's not embarrassing because we all go through it. It's part of the human condition. We're built this way. We're built to stand tough and to find ways to survive, but we're also built to, we're also built with soft spots.

And those soft spots, sometimes they work their way out and that's just the way that life goes. I've been through plenty of them, plenty of them. And I was lucky that there was someone close that I could talk to or there was a helping hand at that moment. And even if you feel the loneliest you've ever felt, there is someone, someone is out there. AI.

AI. Chat GPT. That's who's out there. Chat GPT. No, but's out there. Chat GPT. No, but seriously, it really is something to pay attention to and not let it get too far because it can get too far. Yeah. And yeah, definitely reach out for help to, if you don't want to ask friends and family, find a professional. Find a professional. There are free resources available on the internet.

You can Google mental health crisis. If you're considering unaliving, then there are unaliving crisis hotlines. Those people are trained listeners. That's what they do really well. And they can find you resources to help you out, even if you have no insurance or no money. Even if you have no insurance or no money. Even if you have no insurance or no money, especially if you have no insurance or no money, because then that is a place

where you really feel desperation, but there are organizations out there who specialize in this and connecting you with resources for your particular situation. So I don't wanna be too heavy because the commercial break is just, you come here for a laugh, but it's mental health awareness. We're doing this thing on Saturday to shine a little light on mental health awareness.

But I thought that, you know, it was important for us to recognize that we've been there and that lots of other people have been there. And I have known people who have not made it on the other side of that crisis. Taken their own life and taken matters into their own hands. And that's just something, I don't even think I need to say it. You cannot undo that. You cannot undo that particular solution and it's not solving anything.

It really is just leaving a wake of destruction in its path. So all that said, if you need help, find it. If you're just a regular schmo and you're feeling like, you know, shit's tough, well, join the club and go to therapy. That's what I say. Go to therapy. Get yourself a therapist.

Are you hearing a purring noise? I'm hearing a purring noise. It's really weird. I think the weather is all weird. I think there's a lot of electricity in the air. You know, we've been having nonstop rain, thunderstorms. I think that's true. I was out in my yard the other day

and I was just moving our, we have like a metal fire pit and I touched it and it was. This is it. It's my phone. My phone is ringing on one of the wires. My phone is ringing on one of the wires creating a radio. Speaking of mental health, Brian's losing it. Here, right on the radio, right on the podcast radio.

That's great. I love that. I do too. All right. Get the help that you need. See a therapist, nothing to be ashamed of. We'll be back. Okay.

You're probably wondering why I, Rachel, have taken over the voice duties at TCB. It's pretty simple. Astrid asked me to shut Brian up, even for a minute. Well, lovely Astrid, your wish is my command. Do you want to help Astrid, too? You know you do. Leave a message for her, or me, or Chrissy, at 212-433-3TCB. That's 212-433-3822.

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Okay, two things before we end the show. Number one, I finished the pit. Yes. I love it. I love it, I love it, I love it. It's so good. No nice, neat little wrap-up, no big speech, no soap opera drama, no love story that ends in, you know, a cliffhanger. Mm-hmm. It's just that that's it. The shift's over and everyone goes home.

And I mean, you know. I hope they keep it like that. Oh, please. Yeah. Please keep the simplicity, the reality, the non-bullshit-y, over-dramatic crap, just keep it straight, simple, and really... Keep it at the hospital.

Real, yeah, keep it at the hospital. That's a good idea. Like, I don't mind a couple of the scenes at the end where it's just like, not tying up loose ends, but where it like, I think it's furthering the story when they're not necessarily in the emergency room. But they're right outside the hospital. Yeah, and there's a couple other things.

Keep it in the hospital. Don't take it home. Don't go to the bedroom. Don't fucking go to the bar, everyone. Oh my gosh, something happened. Blah, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby. No, keep it there, right there. You got this.

Noah Wiley, you're onto something here. This is a show that has captured my attention because it's so fucking real and it's so fucking good. It's very well acted. Very well acted. It really is. I love all the characters. And like I said, I was not looking

for another medical drama. I was not looking for any medical drama. Yeah, so that's why I resisted watching it. But I happened to pick up like right as it had ended. So I got to watch it all and I did. Jeff and I ended up binging it. So good.

I actually waited. I got like through the first four or five, I had two more and then I was like, just let me stop and then when it's over, I'll just burn through them so that I can get my daily dose and I finish it over the weekend. And man, was it good. Good for you, Max, supporting, I think putting out a great television. And hopefully the production turnaround is very quick.

I imagine it could be because it's not, like there's not a bunch of CGI, there's not any of that. There are a lot of practical effects, obviously. They're in an emergency room. There's a lot of blood, guts and and gore, and stuff like that. They have to replicate, and it's very technical, very technical. But, Chad GPT, it'll help you. Swear to God, just ask it.

What happens when someone's eyeball pops out? What does that look like? It's like... Yeah, I know. I think I even learned some new terminology from it. Oh, I think I could do an appendectomy tomorrow. You're right. Yeah, I certainly think I could do it. I could do a tracheotomy.

Yeah, the tracheotomy has happened a lot. Yeah, they do those every third minute. There's another tracheotomy. Here's what I've learned. If you're in an emergency situation, get prepared to have your throat cut open because that's likely happening. Everyone gets their throat cut open, which is like, you know, I had my throat cut open too. That is the very scariest thing.

It is not something interesting to think about, but I guess if it's that or dying, I'd rather, I suppose, have the tracheotomy. But anyway, all right, second thing I wanted to share with you, Mary Lou Retton. Do you remember Mary Lou Retton? Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, famous gymnast. 1986 Summer Olympics, I think, 84 Summer Olympics. I don't even remember when they were. Los Angeles Summer Olympics, young girl named-

Star. Mary Lou Retton was this like 12 year old, 13 year old, I don't know how old she was, star of the Olympics. Like there's always a gymnast who's the star of the Olympics. Yeah, she was the Simone Biles of her time. For sure. And Nadiya Komenich and some of these other people. But this Mary Lou Retton captured the attention

in the hearts of the entire world. Now, I was young when this came out. But I remember my parents going gaga goo goo over Mary Lou Retton. And she was on the Wheaties box and on every commercial. And whatever. Mary Lou Retton had like a terrible bout with pneumonia a couple of years ago.

She almost died. They had to raise a bunch of money for her. Raise a bunch of money for Mary Lou Retton. Wouldn't you think that Mary Lou Retton would just pretty much get money from things? Like, I don't know. It would seem to me, like, I don't know that Simone Biles is ever gonna want for a dollar

in her life if she does it the right way. Like, Mary Lou Retton could do commercials for the rest of her life. Why isn't she commentating on gymnastics is my question. She should be. That's a good point. Anyway, she was slam hammered. Well, anyway, they raised a bunch of money for her because of this pneumonia thing. And then yesterday or a couple of days ago, she was caught shithoused driving her Porsche

in West Virginia, got pulled over, shithoused. Why are we raising money for someone that's driving around a Porsche? What's going on? Listen, I like Mary Lou and I am not one to throw stone and glass houses about driving drunk. You shouldn't do it ever, ever, ever, but been there, done that, so I'm not here to throw stones, but you just think of Mary Lou Redden,

you don't think of driving drunk in West Virginia and you're a Porsche. No, you don't. What are you doing? Mary lived. Is that where she lived? I guess. Why do I though, yeah, what a weird place.

I mean, I've been to West Virginia. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It is beautiful. But unfortunately, it is the state that got left behind in so many different ways. And if you live there, I'm sure I don't need to tell you. It's like, it's very, it can be, places are very poor or extraordinarily rich, one of

the two. But the state itself, gorgeous, like gorgeous, such a beautiful state. So I could see why Mary Lou would wanna live there. Maybe that, maybe, I don't know, maybe she has like a, you know, they put all those gymnastics, like camps and stuff, they put them in the weirdest places, like Kansas, the middle of nowhere Kansas, or 70,000 miles south of Chicago.

And that, my daughter, one of my daughters, loves gymnastics. She's all about it. She's flipping and flopping and that, my daughter, one of my daughters loves gymnastics. She's all about it. She's flipping and flopping and twisting and turning. She has to show me every time. She learns a new trick every day. She's really good at it. She's really strong.

And you can already tell, even at her young age, she's developing that gymnast's body, very strong trunk, right? A very strong lower trunk so she can do those know, do those flips and jumps and kicks. Yeah, you gotta have the core. You do. And so I'm thinking to myself, oh, here we go, you know, daddy's gonna be a gymnast daddy. Put aside a million dollars for gymnast daddy, right? Oh yeah. Okay, so all of that aside, I start thinking to myself, you know, she just loves it. She loves everything about it. I start thinking to myself, she just loves it, she loves everything about it.

I start thinking to myself, well, maybe she could be like the next Simone Biles. And I start playing it out through my head. And then I go, oh, but all those girls have to go live at the weird camp, you know? The weird camp with the weird trainer who like yells and screams at them, but then feeds them dinner, like porridge in the morning.

I don't know, that just seems, would you give up your child and just let them live at some weird camp? I don't know. Half their life to- I don't know, that'd be tough. If they were the one, if they were the chosen one, like, oh my gosh, this girl could be the next Mary Lou Retton, Simone Biles, Nadia Comaneach. Huh. But she's got to dedicate her entire life to this.

And that includes being here to train all the time. What do you think? I don't know. That would be tough. Like I said, it would be tough. I mean, I think you have to get a little bit older than she is, you know, to really have somebody say, hey, wow, she's got something special. Yeah, I agree.

But I don't think it's much older because some of these girls are 15, 16 years old when they're trying out for the Olympics, right? And they only have that short window. That's the other thing too is like, when you're an elite athlete, besides baseball where you can kind of be 40 smoking cigarettes and tossing them.

Dropping acid. Yeah, dropping acid and being John Rocker, the relief pitcher. Right. You know, you can get away with maybe a little bit more longevity if you take care of your body. Professional baseball, not saying anything bad about them, obviously they're also elite athletes. But football, basketball, like,

gymnastics is one of those things where it's just mainly very young girls and guys that are doing this, from the age of 15 to maybe 22, 23. I think Simone Biles is 28, you know, but she's just a magician. I mean, there's just something different about her. That's obvious. So you got that little window.

So they gotta be, they gotta be like, I don't know, crafting the universe somewhere between the ages of seven and 10. They already have to be looking at whether or not you have the base skills to do this and do you stand out in some way. Anyway, I don't know. Well, there's not a lot of tall gymnasts, I'll say that.

And there's some tall jeans running in the kids' family. Oh yeah, that's what I do. There's not a lot of tall gymnasts, they'll say that. And there's some tall jeans running in the kids' family. Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah, you can't be a tall gymnast because then you hit your head on the things. They're just not tall. Well, good. Maybe it's just something I don't have to worry about. Maybe I don't have to worry about that.

Encourage, support her dream for now. Oh, listen, support, yeah, sure. I love her. I love when she does all that gymnastics. You know,, support, yeah, sure. I love her. I love when she does all that gymnastics. You know, at her age too, I loved gymnastics as well. Yeah, and I'm the apparatus that she climbs on when she doesn't have a gym around. She's climbing on my shoulder.

Hey, daddy, do flips, here, my arm. I'm bruised and broken all over from one of my daughters. Well, one of my daughters does it, and then the even younger one thinks she can do it. And so I'm just a jungle gym. That's all I am. I know. It's so cute. But I'll accept my fate as the father jungle gym because I love them and I want everything for them. And because my daughter may or may not be a gymnast in that very expensive elite world of gymnastics, we will now be doing more episodes of The Commercial Break.

Just hang tight. Every Saturday, it's 12 hours. Every Saturday, it's 12 hours of TCB. TCB's endless year. 12 episodes every single day for 365 days. Sponsored by who wants it? Who wants it? Who wants 1,000 episodes of the commercial? That would be 3,000. That would be like 5,000 episodes of the commercial break. But we could do it if we put our mind to it, Chrissy.

No. Think about it. Go to Jeff. Talk to him about it. If Jeff gets me a Wu-Tang Clan... Signed. Signed poster, I'll consider dropping it down to three episodes a day. All right.

I'll go to him with the offer. There used to be a podcast, I'm not going to give the name away, I don't even know that they do this anymore, there used to be a podcast that would put out like 20 episodes a day, but they were like five minutes long. So it was like a total of, I don't know what it was, a hundred minutes of content. And they were all like these little press conferences, like sports press conferences that they would edit and repurpose.

And it was like, it was very weird. I mean, who would listen to that? You know what I'm saying? Still around? No, I don't think so. I think someone said, who would listen to that? You know what I'm saying? But they were making money. Still around? No, I don't think so. Okay. I think someone said, what are we doing here?

Right. What is this? I don't have time for this. I don't have time for this, but then why are you taking my press conferences and just throwing them back on a podcast loop? Listen, there's lots of, it takes all kinds, right? There's lots of different podcasts out there. Something for everyone.

I think that Adam Carolla does three episodes a day if I'm not mistaken, but I think he takes a four-hour podcast and breaks it up into, you know what I'm saying? Rogan's doing four or five hours a couple times a week. No way. No way. Wouldn't you be tired? Yeah. But I guess when you're drinking and smoking weed the whole time. That's true. It's just like hanging out. And getting paid millions. Yeah, and getting, yeah. When you get paid $120 million a year. Yeah, you reconsider.

If I got paid $120 million a year, I certainly would be happy to consider doing four hours an episode because... The people want it. I could get a masseuse to come in and just, you know, massage me during the four hours. What did I care? Yeah, you can do whatever. All right, TCB's Endless Date. You know about it.

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