The Commercial Break - Where TF Is Grandma!

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

EP852: Bryan and Krissy review an interesting episode of Sally Jesse Rafael (1980's-1990's daytime TV show). While mom is encouraging her daughter to be social and sleep with some dudes, grandma is n...o where to be found. We all remember losing our "v" but this 1990's television time capsule gets wild! Hang on to your hats and your virginity....it's gonna rowdy! TCB Clips: East Side Grave! Bryan's new podcast is now available on all podcast players. Search "After The Break" Watch EP #852 on YouTube! Text us or leave us a voicemail: +1 (212) 433-3TCB FOLLOW US: Instagram:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thecommercialbreak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/thecommercialbreak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@tcbpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.tcbpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ CREDITS: Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bryan Green⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ &⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Krissy Hoadley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Executive Producer: Bryan Green Producer: Astrid B. Green Voice Over: Rachel McGrath TCBits & TCB Tunes: Written, Voiced and Produced by Bryan Green. Rights Reserved To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:13 gonna give you the money make sure my name is on the flyer and we did that Craig Hunter hey bro I love you I love you bro I love you bro I don't even want to, like, put you in the grave right now, Mike, but we gonna do this shit, though. Oh, he's on. Oh, he's on. On this episode of the commercial break. I'd say she has a good sense of self-esteem,
Starting point is 00:01:52 but she was going to take it out on my car. You know what happened to her? She turned around to my mom in their apartment with a club in her hand, getting ready to leave, and she shot blood all over my mom, soaked my blood. I almost had a stroke. That was what the problem was. What? How do you shoot blood?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Holy shit. And what did she just say? I had a stroke? Did she say I had a stroke? That's what happened? Oh, my God. This is a wild. This is a wild.
Starting point is 00:02:16 But, and it sounds like the grandmother lives close because the daughter went over and grabbed a club at the grandmothers and was coming back. I'm sorry, TCB audience. I've completely lost track of what's going on here. I don't even know what this episode is about anymore. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, yeah, cats and kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian.
Starting point is 00:02:45 This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show, Kristen Joy Haudley. Best to you, Chris. Best to you, Brian. And best to you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for joining us. we've been getting a lot of compliments on the nacho appearance. I appreciate it. People, even though they have no idea who Nacho is.
Starting point is 00:03:01 It was a great interview. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. He did most of the talking, but I was there also. He was prompting. I was honking it along. But a lot of our, I assume, American listeners, the way that I know them, maybe some of them are bilingual, but they didn't know who Nacho was,
Starting point is 00:03:20 but they said such a great conversation. Thanks so much. So do you go listen to the Nacho Red episode if you haven't heard it yet. It's a long one. Strap in. You'll be there for a while. But I think it's well worth the hustle, if you will. Chrissy?
Starting point is 00:03:35 I think so, too. Well worth the time. Well worth the time. Okay. Personal question. You can answer or you don't have to answer. You can give me a range. You don't have to be specific.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Is it an expose? Is it expose, eh? Exposet, eh? At what age? Did you lose your virginity? Oh. Like, you can give you a range. Doesn't that be specific?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah, 17. 17. I was 15. Okay. I think a lot of my friends were probably in that 15, 16, 17-year-old range. I do know a couple people who were later. I don't know many that were earlier. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I know one or two that was like 13, 14. But they turned out to be not so great adults. You know what I'm saying? Well. I'm kidding. That's funny. Yeah, there were a couple like really early bloomer. But 15, 16, 17, I think is one most, I think, at least in my age, like in your experience, with my experience, your friend group.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yes. Is when most of us became like hyper sexually aware and we're willing to give it a try. Yeah. And what a big deal it was. Oh, yeah. What a big deal it was. And of course, it's made out to be a big deal. It should be a big deal.
Starting point is 00:04:49 It is. You know, back in the day, back in my day, you could. die from having sex. You could get snatched cock. Your dick could fall off. Your dick could fall off. You could get snatchcock. Should trap your cock and just choke it to death.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Because, especially as a Catholic, you know. Oh, God. You guys have the guilt going on too. Oh, man, do we? I still feel guilty about it. It never really leaves you, does it? No, it doesn't. That original sin never leaves you.
Starting point is 00:05:19 They get you from the moment you're born, and that's how they keep you around for so long. learned is that they just fill you with guilt and then you're always going back to apologize for something. Yeah. But, you know, virginity is a big deal, as it should be treated, I think. Yeah, definitely. When you can start a new life through one particular act of seemingly orgasmic temptation, then you should, you know, it's a big deal. Keep it in your pants until you're ready to handle that reason. Or wrap it up. Or whatever, some combination of something, right? And never leave it up to something. And never leave it up to somebody else's? No. Never. Leave it up to somebody else to do. To do. That's all I got to say,
Starting point is 00:05:59 no matter who you are, no matter what kind of sex you choose to have. Never leave it up to somebody else to protect yourself. That's right. That's it. Always make sure that you're protecting yourself. And then no matter what anybody else says or does, you got yourself covered literally and figuratively. This episode brought to you by Trojan. I know, right? By Trojan, small dick condoms. T.C.B. Small Cock condoms, now available in your local grocer. And here's why I asked the question. I mean, I haven't thought about virginity in forever.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Sure. And as one of the first in my group to lose my virginity, I didn't do it for some, like, trophy. I just did it because I, the opportunity presented itself. There was a willing participant. We found ourselves ready, willing, and able, and we did it, right? and then again and again and again and again and again and again yes right well at least well no with the first time i ever had sex i had sex with a girl and then supposedly she told me she had gotten pregnant it turned into a whole debacle i told you that story yeah you did god that's like the first time you
Starting point is 00:07:08 drank how you got sick i know the first time i drank i got i ended up in not such great shape and i scared me away but this didn't scare me away from sex no i was right back at it a couple months later just with someone else. But, you know, there were other, there were girls in my life that, you know, then they were also virgins and all that other stuff. So, you know, I... Was it like a girlfriend or was it a friend that you guys kind of just were like, let's see what this is all about? Yeah, I wouldn't call her a girlfriend. It was a friend, it was my sister's friend. It was my friend's sister. But you don't have a sister. Yeah, I don't have a sister. Yeah. I don't anymore.
Starting point is 00:07:48 After that moment, after that moment, we decided we weren't going to be siblings anymore. Just lovers. That's very Game of Thrones. Yes. This episode canceled by Spotify. Yes. It was my friend's sister. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Older? She, the sister was my age. Oh, okay. The friend was a little bit older by like a year and a half, two years. Okay. the sister went out to go study in somewhere for the summer abroad in Europe like some kind of exchange program and I ended up sleeping with her sister oh okay yeah so it's fun for the whole family his sister no her sister oh her oh it was your friend my friend was a girl and then her sister got yeah so you can imagine yeah you can imagine all the fun and hijinks we all had together that summer Anyway. Yes, I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:08:49 It was a whole thing. But then shortly thereafter, I got involved with what I would call a more serious girlfriend, you know, like kind of a love of, you know, your true love, your first love. And then she was a version. And then we tried many times to figure that out. And then we finally figured that out. You know, also it's sloppy. It's ugly. It's not usually all that much fun.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I mean, you know, it's the first time you do anything, you're going to have to get used to it and figure it all out, right? And there's, there are instruction books, but no one was, in Catholic school, no one was telling you how to do it. They were telling you how to stay away from it is what they were doing. They were explaining that it could happen, but they were saying it shouldn't happen to you. So there was not a lot of instruction. You know, like now I imagine there's some finesse that goes on. Like, have you seen those, I think we talked about this one time, in Denmark and other countries. in Europe, they have paid for extensive documentaries on teenage sex, where it is highly
Starting point is 00:09:53 graphic. It's not porn. It's instructive. But you could probably whack off to it. You know what I'm saying? You could probably whack off to it. Especially if you're 15. Yeah, if you're 15, I'd be whacking off to it, right? It shows a bunch, you know, all the parts and the boobs and different shapes. And here's a small labia and here's a big labia and here's a thing. And here's the inside of a It was all kinds. I watched probably three episodes of the Denmark one, which made a lot of news at the time, probably back in 2019, 2020. And it was English subtitles. It was incredibly instructive. I think it probably is like a green light to just go ahead and do it. But teenagers are going to go ahead and do it anyway. They're doing it anyways. You might as well be informed about all aspects of it. I agree. Well, not this generation of teenagers. And not have porn teach you. Now, porn's not going to tell you anything you don't. Porn's not going to tell you anything good. I don't even like porn to this day. And here's the reason why.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It's completely and absolutely obnoxiously incorrect. It does not have. These people are trained professionals. It's just like when you see someone jump a car or the BMX guy, you know, go over 50 cars. You cannot go tomorrow and take your BMX bike or any bike for that matter and jump over 50 cars. You know why? Because you're not a trained professional. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Sex workers are trained professionals. It's what they do. given all kind of aids and edits and all this other stuff to make it look like that's what's happening, but that's not really what's happening. It's a job for them, right? Anyway, all of this said, you know, when you first have sex, it's a very sloppy, ugly, sometimes painful thing to do. And you're going to have to get through that part in order to learn what you like and what you don't like and how to do it and where it's at where the whole even lies. I mean, that's part of the complication is that when both of you don't know what's going on, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:42 You know, it was like, where do you stick it? I don't know. I have no idea. I say all this to say that I was watching a Instagram the other day. And somebody who I follow, he's got like a, it's, I wish I could remember the name of the account. I'll put the link down on the show notes. He's got something like camp, camp with David. And when he means camp, it means campy. Like, not like camp like you're going to camp. But like, and he shows all these clips of this old stuff that he considers campy, right? A lot of times. Teresa Caputo stuff, which is why I started following him, a lot of TV psychics from the 80s and the 90s and just all these weird mix of all of it. All the stuff we like. Yeah, like nostalgia stuff, right? And he, the other day, put together a clip from a Sally Jesse Raphael show. Oh, the red glasses? The red glasses. Take me back. Take Calgon. Take me away. Do you remember Sally Jessai Raphael? Of course. 90s, 80s and 90s, there was a smorgishbork, a proliferation of these daytime talk show television shows. Oh, God, so many. Did Oprah kind of start it? She definitely started it. She started it locally in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Well, Phil Donahue. Well, Phil Donahue was well before any of them. There were a couple of the nighttime versions like Robert Downey Jr. Senior. Robert Downey Jr. Senior. Junior, Senior. Yeah, Robert Downey Sr., I think, was his name. He was like this loudmouth brashed. Geraldo was there, loudmouth brashed guys that would put together these, like, crazy nighttime or daytime. Basically, radio on TV, like these radio talk shows, these Howard Sternish type shows, radio on TV. And then came a more refined version of that, like your morning wake-up show locally, but it would be like an hour long where they would talk to people, you know, my boyfriend, you know, I.
Starting point is 00:13:41 have a 75-inch penis, you know, like bringing subjects. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You just let it fly. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You just let fly. You just let fly. What did she say? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You just let fly. Right. So there's all, like, they're, they're finding their way in the early mid-80s with the Donah Hughes. And if you don't know who Donahue is, I'm not, I'm not going to try in school, Yana, but go Google it, with the Donahue's. And then Oprah starts locally. in Chicago, and then her show starts getting syndicated everywhere. Then you've got Oprah, but she very much starts not as the Oprah you would know today. But as like a junky daytime talk show host, she would bring on weird people and racist. I've been pregnant, you know, I was pregnant at the, I was pregnant at the same time. Or I didn't know I was pregnant. Yeah, I didn't
Starting point is 00:14:32 know I was pregnant or my daughter's out of control, whatever it was. Basically the internet on TV. There you go. That's a good one. That is it. You're right. Right, the internet on TV, all the oddities and weird things. And the stuff that you don't talk about in common company, you would see some of the stuff. Yeah, not with your family at the dinner table. Until. Until, yeah. These shows started talking about it more and more.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's very much following the flavor of pop culture and society and talking more and more about things that typically were not talking about, bringing it out into the light. So then you get this, then you get another string after kind of the Oprah Donna huge. You get, you bring it down a lower rung. That's even a little bit later, but you're talking about now like Jenny Jones. Oh, yeah. Sally, Jesse Raphael. I think Ricky Lake. That's right.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And others who kind of come in and they have their daytime TV from like 2 o'clock to like 5.30 was filled with these programs. Yeah. And it was basically looking back on it too because now I'm thinking about daytime talk shows now, like say Drew Barrymore. And it was very, very different. This was like, all of the sets kind of looked the same. There was like a, you were kind of in the round a little bit. You were sitting on a chair, much like this. Yeah, like, you know, in a semi-circle.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Amphitheater type thing where they stacked up, you know, went up. And then in the middle was the stage and basically just chairs. And these people just sat there and were interviewed by the host. And then they would take questions from the audience. The crowd would get involved. That's right. It was very, very simple, very strong. straightforward question answer question answer question answer and then it got more and more rowdy
Starting point is 00:16:14 and then the producers looked for more and more things that could kind of get people talking right whatever the it was clickbait it was it was tabloid tv yeah for the most part Oprah went a different way but she was the only one yeah everyone else went the other way she's the only one who went up they went down until you know then you get jerry springer and all those other shows that mori povich and all that other shit that comes along. Sally Jesse Raphael, while she tried to start off semi-serious, had to go down that route too because that's what gets the clicks. That's what gets the eyeballs.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And so I found an episode that this guy cut a clip of that I then watched most of the episode about a pair of sisters, one who loses their virginity and one who doesn't as teenagers. And the fact that this is even a conversation that is happening on television, that everyone thinks is a big deal is just an indication of how Puritan society was not even 30 or 40 years ago. We're not even a generation out. And now you show your labia on Instagram, you know, as a fundraiser for kids with cancer, right? It's a labiathon for cancer. It's insane. So what I'd like to do, if you don't mind, let's. to all go back nostalgically to Sally Jesse Raphael and a time when not only were we pure as human
Starting point is 00:17:45 beings, but the society in general was puritanical. And we all got upset about talking about virginity on TV. Not to mention these two sisters are, these two sisters are characters. I mean, it's a very, it's very interesting. It's bad sister, good sister, mom in the middle trying to figure it all out. It's so fascinating to watch this. Oh, yeah, a time capsule. It's a little snapshot, a little Americana for you. Now, I don't even know what part of evolution in Americana we are. I think pretty much the end.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Yeah, the end. I think the year 1998 was the last great year of America. Let's put it that way. Maybe 2000. Maybe 2000. But we had Y2K and everyone was all freaked out. Anyway, let's take a break. And when we get back through the magic of my TV,
Starting point is 00:18:35 I'm going to put Sally Jesse Raphael on and we're going to watch these clips together as a family. We're going to talk about it as a family. Let's get it out in the open. You're not losing your virginity. Yeah, family talk. Who's lost their virginity? Yeah. And if you think I had the type of parents that I would go and be like, hey, dad, guess what? I bone somebody.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Fuck no. But then I had to tell him because she said she was pregnant. God, I remember you telling her whole story. And my dad had the following words of wisdom. for me. Well, you're fucked. You've fucked your life. You've fucked it all up. Oh, my head. My earpieces fell out. You laugh so hard. Those are my dad's words. He said, well, you fucked it all up, kid. Yeah, you've done it. Yeah. Well, it ended up she wasn't pregnant, just to put a cap on that story. She wasn't pregnant. I don't have a love child out
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Starting point is 00:20:51 What's up, guys? It's Candice Dillard Bassett, former Real House Wife of Potomac. And I'm Michael Arsino, author of The New York Times bestseller, I Can't Date Jesus. And this is undomesticated. The podcast, where we aren't just saying
Starting point is 00:21:03 the quiet parts out loud, we're putting it all on the kitchen table and inviting you to the function. If you're ready for some bold takes and a little bit of chaos, welcome to undomesticated. Follow and listen to Undomesticated, available wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we're back. We're talking about two things about this period of time. And I'm assuming this is like late 80s, mid to late 80s. A galaxy far, far away. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:21:33 there's a kid that I know, his name is Chris. What's up, Chris Z? Let's leave it at that. Chris Z was like one of my few friends that I had in grade school when I lived back in Chicago. And when we left Chicago, we left, not in a hurry, but we only, you know, the kids only got a month or two notice that we were going, did I remember? And we came back, we came down here to Atlanta. And while we visited, you know, I wouldn't say frequently, but enough when we went back, I never really got to reconnect with Chris until about six weeks ago. After decades of searching for him, I finally got a bone.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Like, I got a bite somewhere on the Internet. And I was like, I think that's him. And I sniffed it all the way to a place where I could contact him. And so we've been going back and forth, and it's been a lot of fun. He has kept all the, we went to grade school from first to fourth grade together. And he has all of the yearbooks. Yes. And he has been sending them to me.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And we have been commiserating about the people in the class. You know, oh, who did you go? to the skating party with, oh, I think I wrote her a Valentine's Day, you know, like all that stuff. And this would have, I mean, this is probably later than this episode is on, but still not that much later. And it feels to me like this was that time, right? This 80s, late 80s, when life was just a little different. It was different. And you, we didn't, you'd be lucky if you knew who was president. You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, you knew who was president, but you'd be lucky if you ever heard about politics, at least the way that I was.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Of course, I was seven, so why would I know about politics? But anyway, here's Sally Jesse Raphael, and we're talking about virginity. All right, let's get into it. There she is. The signature red-rimmed glasses with the big shoulder pads, too. The huge shoulder pads are. They really are, for some reason. For some reason, it's right.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah, all right. Why is this? Okay, all right, so let's take a listen. Here is the old Sally Jesse Raphael show. No, Raphael. Come on, everybody's doing it. Oh, don't worry. This thing doesn't hurt.
Starting point is 00:23:38 It seems these days that sex, and especially... This thing? What are you talking about? Specifically, Sally, please tell me. Your virginity is on every teenager's mind. When it comes to... It's always been on every teenager's mind, Sally. I'm just not interested right now.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I just want to wait to find the right girl. I would like to keep my virginity. I love that they're playing. Let's talk about sex, baby. Let's talk about you and me. Let's talk about all the good things and the bad things that may be. Let's talk about sex. Remember they had...
Starting point is 00:24:11 That was revolutionary at the time because they were holding condoms up and they were putting them like left eye. This is early 90s then, yeah. Oh, this is early 90s? Okay. Mom, just stop pressuring me. She does not get along with people her age. No more negligence and no more condoms, okay? She's just holier than all.
Starting point is 00:24:29 No, I do not. Every time a guy looks at her, they're all. they think about of sex. I just can't handle. Thanks, Mom. Why is Mom getting involved in your virginity? The way that you wet. My guest today say they're doing what most teenagers today would consider unthinkable. I just had a little thing, too, that says lose your virginity or else. Or else. Is that what somebody was saying? Her mom, their mom. Oh, the mom. Yeah. Wait. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Okay, so Sally's saying we're having people on that most teenagers their age would think about doing. I do remember feeling like when I had sex at 15 years old, I was like way ahead of the curve. Yeah. Like my friends were talking about it, but certainly we're not doing it. They feel that they want to save their virginity. Oh, okay. So she's saying that the teenagers want to save their virginity.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Now, their family, their friends, they say these virgins are cheating themselves out of this terrific experience. They're so desperate for their friends to lose their virginity. that they go to any lengths to help them, as they say, lose it. Now, as the kids say, lose it. Lose it. I never once said that. No kid ever said that. Please meet 16-year-old Takesha. Takesha says she was so tired of her mother and her 13-year-old sister Natasha constantly pressuring her to lose her virginity.
Starting point is 00:25:57 13. She couldn't take any more. She moved out of the house. Yeah, 13. Why is your 13-year-old sister at her? Yeah, pressuring you to have sex. This is a way advanced family. These are not Irish Catholics. I'll tell you that right now. She says her 13-year-old sister Natasha just lost her virginity and is nothing more than a cheap slut. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Okay. Flood-shaming. They're at the OG level. Oh, farts are wonderful things. She's nothing but a cheap slut. 13 is a little young. I got to tell you. I mean, no shade.
Starting point is 00:26:34 If that's what, if you feel you're mature enough to have sex, listen, if you can get it hard and someone can get it in, I guess it's time to have sex, right? I don't know. I have no idea. Also blames her mother. Yeah, you're a cheap slut. I know.
Starting point is 00:26:53 The audience is clapping because she called her a cheap slut. That's awesome. She blames her mother for mold. And we've won. Why we're at where we're at, societally today. Meanwhile, you and I are sitting here yackling about it. Now, Takesha's mom, Darlene, and Takesha's sister, Natasha, are listening backstage. They'll be out with this in a minute.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I was picturing a different look from the sister. Yeah, I was picturing. She looks very matronly. She does. Laura Ashley, pullover, white long-sleeved shirt. Her mom, by the way, has the haircut. A young boy Of a 1992 race car driver
Starting point is 00:27:34 But not like a NASCAR race car driver Like a race car driver at your local track You know what I'm saying? Short on the top party in the back I wanted to talk to Takesha alone Takesha is 16 years old Very nice name She's one half American Indian, right?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yes What tribe? Atachi Wuxachi and Cherokee Okay We've got an Atachi in the crowd Yeah, Wataki, Ataki, Whatchachi. After talking to a lot of teens of my show, I think you're definitely at 16 among the minority of your generation. Now.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah. If you're looking for a lover, I'm right here. You say that you disapprove of your mother and your sister's lifestyle, and you're tired of them harassing you. The mother and the sister's lifestyle. Oh, well. They're in the lifestyle. They're in the lifestyle. And why would mom, why would we know about mom's life?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yeah, yeah. Like when you lived with them? It was horrible. I was always being pressured. They constantly had boys in the house. To try to introduce you? Yeah. She gave me promiscuous items.
Starting point is 00:28:45 What do you mean promiscuous items? Like a negligee and condoms and anything that she could think of. Condoms are good. Yeah, condoms are good. Okay. When you get to a sexually mature age, you should at least know what a condom is and probably have access to them. That's my opinion. I haven't gotten to that point with any of my children, so maybe I'll feel differently then. But I'm not handing my son,
Starting point is 00:29:10 like, you know, a banana hammock and telling him to go to it. Go get it. Do you want to lose it, son? Are you interested in losing it? Everybody's losing it. Who? My mother. Your mother gave you a negligee. Yeah. It's over there, right? Right. It's right here. Let me see. Oh, my God, that's like nothing now. Yeah, that is, that's fully clothed. And condoms? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:44 She gave me these right here. I have a whole big bottle full, and they're in storage. Why did your mother do this? I don't understand. She says that by losing my virginity, it will loosen me up, and I'll get more friends. and boyfriends and Wow Mama the year
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yeah they're doing a split screen too So you can see the mother's reaction Yeah she's in the background Yeah she's going That's not true I lost two of my teeth this morning I think she did She did
Starting point is 00:30:17 And your sister feels the same way Yes She's already She's already lost her virginity and she's you know she goes out with all these guys and everything and I just don't want that you know I'm worried about it was so bad that your mother and sister pressuring you where do you live now I well I live in well it's sort of my own apartment I live half with my grandma and just half by myself I live in an apartment but wait wait wait yeah and half by your grandma and a half by yourself what does that mean
Starting point is 00:30:53 Does that mean you have two separate rooms? Because that's just called living with your grandma. That seems like ideal when you were 16. Yeah. What's your own place. Fuck, yeah. I mean, you're not having much fun, it sounds like. But that's okay, whatever you're into.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I'm not here to judge whether or not you have sex or don't have sex. But I am going to get a little judgy about the 13-year-old. I can already see that. I'm not going to. I'm a little judgy about them letting a 16-year-old live on her own. What's half with her grandma? At least she's taking care of half the time. She lives there, but she's not there all the time.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Oh, she lived there. What does the mother say? Grandma says that mom's... Who, whew, whew. So it's a good generational thing that's happening here. Yeah, I think so. The grandmother to the mother to the child. Important to ask you, to Keisha, why do you want to wait to have sex?
Starting point is 00:31:46 Because I think if you wait until you're married, then, well, most people that keep their virtue till they're married, they stay in the moment. marriage for lifetime and that's what I want I don't want to I don't know what stats you're reading girl but that's not true wasn't true back then not true now
Starting point is 00:32:03 so your self-esteem and your respect is very important right to you all right and that's admirable you know yeah that's good sounds like she's got a right head on her shoulders your mom and sister will have a lot to say come on out
Starting point is 00:32:22 if she gets divorced horse later, but anyways, besides the point. Exactly. Darling and Natasha. Darling and Natasha. There they go. The Scarlet, Scarlet women. Yes, now coming around the track number 15.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Darling! And now entering the ring, Natasha. The ugly slut. Charlene, you heard the audience. They're kind of appalled at this. And you also heard what Takesha was saying. And we were kind of surprised. You told our producers that you wanted your daughter to lose her virginity.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yes. Why? Because she has no social life. Oh, my. Oh, my. Aye. We're just talking about this with a guest you'll hear in the future. But it's like, please, please, somebody in government, I know you're not doing any work right now, but when you get back to work, could you please do us a favor and figure out a way to have some kind of licensing for parents or would-be parents?
Starting point is 00:33:36 This is, I don't care what your reasoning is for wanting to be a virgin, not wanting to be a virgin. This is almost secondary to the conversation we need to have about this fucking mother. Yeah, through social life. She looks mean, this lady looks like she was rode hard and put out. I thought I was thinking the same, yeah. She's had a hard life. Yeah, maybe that's where her perspective comes from. She does not understand people her age.
Starting point is 00:34:03 She does not get along with people her age. One, for men, our boys, either one, you cannot put her in a room with them for longer than 10 minutes. I get along with adults. I like adults. That is what my social life is around people that are older than me. And I think that is good because the teenagers are not too good for the Sison and for the adults. Yeah. They're hanging out with 16 year old.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I mean, listen, if it's purely innocent and you just happen to be hanging around your grandma's friends. Like a neighbor or something. Yeah, your grandma's friends or whatever. Okay, I can understand. But why? The grandmother only lives there half the time. And where is she the other half of the time? Where is grandma on cruises or something?
Starting point is 00:34:45 That's so weird. Where's the documentary on this family? because I need to watch it immediately, Netflix. They are just, they're not like me. Look at the opinionated crowd. Right, girl. You're so right, girl. I'll hang out with you.
Starting point is 00:35:06 You know, this is why we can't go to a concert without the crowd getting involved by throwing up phones or something. It's all started with Sally, Jesse, Raphael, and the likes when the crowd is just way too animated for a crowd. Jarlene, most teenagers today can't even talk about sex, but your 13-year-old daughter, Natasha, is sexually active? Yeah. Is that a good thing?
Starting point is 00:35:29 To a point, yeah. To a point, yeah. It brings in extra revenue. Oh, my gosh. I mean, it depends. You know, I mean, how many teenagers do you have doubt nowadays that aren't? At 13? I watch her, you know, and I mean, I'm not going to be against her because more I'm against her, the more she's going to do.
Starting point is 00:35:48 you know but 13 isn't 13 I mean doesn't there's a difference between encouraging yeah and there's a difference between giving the absolute green light and saying it's good for your social life yeah and saying I don't think it's a good idea I don't think you're ready but here's some condoms but here's some condoms you have any questions just in case yeah that's right stuff that comes with being active yeah there is a lot Natasha you lost your virginity at 13 was that the right thing did you do? Yeah, I think it was, you know, it was a guy I cared about, you know, and she really not, let her talk. What? So, God, let her talk. They don't. They don't ever let her talk. Oh, no, son of a wretch. Why do we come here? I want to be at the racetrack, playing the ponies. She really doesn't have no self-respect or morals. Or teeth for that matter. This runs in the family. Yes, sir. To be fair, she's 13, her baby teeth might have just...
Starting point is 00:36:54 Well, that's true. You might be right about that. Yes. Do you think that the only thing that guys want from your daughter is sex or something? No, I'll tell you one thing right now. My daughter has it. Every time a guy looks at her, all they think about is sex. My daughter's life is sitting in the apartment, eating, and watching TV.
Starting point is 00:37:13 The only time she gets out, she don't do nothing. You don't think it's anything other concerns? things she can do rather than have sex. Amen. No, but I mean, if she would even find a God, you know. I have a job. I have a job. I have a job at home.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I read books and I make money for it. Wait. Oh. Wait. You want to tell me we've been doing this for five years and you can sit at home read books and make money? God damn it. Lakeisha.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Tell us how to do this. And plus, I worked for my grandmother. And I had things to do at home. Working for the grandmother. I'm dying. know how this works. Where is the grandmother? Get the grandmother out here.
Starting point is 00:37:51 This is the part we want. This is the piece of the puzzle we're missing here. She only lives there half the time. She also has her 16-year-old working for her. Doing what? I don't know. It seems like mom has the 13-year-old working for her in a whole different capacity, if you ask me. And then where is grandma?
Starting point is 00:38:08 And why isn't she home all the time with a 16-year-old? I mean, at least most of the time. Like the occasional weekend out. Yeah, if you could drive and all that, you know, you had a neighbor. check-in or something. I can get that. A home person. I don't really like going to clubs or bars or anything else. You shouldn't be. You're 16.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Staying at home and, you know, I'm a reading person. I like my friends to come over and stuff. You don't even get out to go to the park or do nothing. But let me ask you. Get out and going to the park. Get out and going to the park. Yeah. Going, you're absolutely
Starting point is 00:38:42 right, Chrissy. It's a big shift. Although, for us. There's a lot of things in between going to the park and having sex. For a period of my life, going to the park, that's right. For a period of my life, going to the park and having sex, we're, in fact, intertwined. But I can understand what you're saying. Darlene, how do you feel about your mother who's taken care of her now? I disagree with her because she tells us my daughter that she's not supposed to have guys for friends.
Starting point is 00:39:08 That it's not right to have guys for friends. She had this one for a very old-fashioned. But, you know, I think it's all right to have guys for friends. But when it comes to guys, I'm just not interested right now. Right. All right. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah. All right. It's 2025. We're going to call back to you and just let you know from the future that there's a whole community of people that are with you. And you don't have to be afraid of whatever it is. There's even a show. Have you been watching that show? Did you continue watching The Virgin Show?
Starting point is 00:39:38 Oh, yeah. Well, the Virgin Show got cut short. Did you know that? Yeah. It got cut short. Yeah. I don't know why. Well, they, well, because you.
Starting point is 00:39:45 they all had sex. Yeah, they all had sex. That's right. Yes. How is having sex going to get your daughter a lot more friends? For one, she's real high, strong. When she talks to anybody... God, this mom is so great.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Oh, my God. Gets the least little mad, like she did with a friend of ours, who is, I have to say, he is abusive, mentally and physically, and he's 17 years old. Okay, so what? What? Hold on. Wait. What?
Starting point is 00:40:15 You want her to have sex with a dude who's mentally and physically abusive? I do have to say. I do have to say. I do have to say he didn't beat the shit out of her. Abusive, mentally and physically, and he's 17 years old. She got into a fight with him. He almost pushed her into a glass table while she went back to my mom's, got a club and was going to come back and beat my car, which me and my under solder.
Starting point is 00:40:37 What? I'm sorry. I didn't follow any of this. What does this have to do with the question? Was living there, okay? Yeah, because the other woman said, how do you, how will that make her more social? More social? And then she brought up this incident.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Yeah, there was a guy, and he was abusive, and then they got a club, and then there was a glass table, and we're all going to McDonald's for dinner. I don't know. She won't be friends with him? Well, it sounds like she's making the right choice. I'd say she has a good sense of self-esteem. But she was going to take it out on my car. You know what happened to her? She turned around to my mom in their apartment with a club in her hand, getting ready to leave.
Starting point is 00:41:15 And she shot blood all over my mom. Soaked my blood. I almost had a stroke. That was what the problem was. Shot blood. What? How do you shoot blood? Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And what did she just say? I had a stroke? Did she say I had a stroke? That's what happened. Oh, my God. Wait, this is so wild. This is the wild. And it sounds like the grandmother lives close because the daughter went over and grabbed a club at the grandmothers and was coming back.
Starting point is 00:41:40 But that's when she shot blood. I'm sorry, TCB audience. I'm sorry, TCB audience. I've completely lost track of what's going on here. I don't even know what this episode is about anymore. Hold on, let's listen. Did she say she had a stroke? In their apartment with a club in her hand,
Starting point is 00:41:53 getting ready to leave, and she shot blood all over my mom, soaked my mom. I almost had a stroke. That was what the problem was. How do you, how does a stroke? I've never seen anyone bleed from a stroke. Not out their mouth.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Not you. What? Like exorcist style? I guess. I don't know. What's going on? Oh, man. I almost had a stroke.
Starting point is 00:42:13 To 300 and something. I think, you know, and she could have died. What does that have to do with friends? And why did blood shoot out of the mouth? I still don't know. I don't know. This is, this family needs to be monitored by some kind of authority. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I hope that somebody was monitoring after this air. Yes. He really pissed me off. First of all, I'm finding this totally appalling. I have my 16-year-old here, and we spend hours talking about. Oh, God. Okay, there's a lady standing up together in question. There's a kid that's she's standing up
Starting point is 00:42:52 and there's a kid sitting next to her. And that kid, I don't even know how to describe this with that. I mean, poor kid, poor guy. Yeah, let's just put it this way. I don't think anybody's looking to lose their virginity to this guy. Reputation and just values. And she shouldn't have to defend having. values like that.
Starting point is 00:43:16 You know what? In my hometown, they call me a whore. Why? Because she doesn't want to have a daughter like you with values like that. And you have to live with yourself. I'm sorry, I disagree.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Noted. Thanks for your opinion. Yeah, noted. Yes, sir. I'm sorry, I have two things I want to say. Why is she getting called a whore when she won't have sex? Yeah, I'm completely confused. episode, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Bizarro County. Yeah. And where do they live is the question? I want to stay away from that. The young lady, I'm very proud of you. You understand because, first of all, okay. Is he wearing a medal with his graduation photo on it? What is going on in this town?
Starting point is 00:44:05 Sally Jesse Raphael was the wildest show on TV and I never watched it. Okay, now there's another guy getting up to stand up to ask a question. He has a medallion on a black, like, yarn swinging around his neck that's got his graduation photo on it. It's either his or his child, maybe? I don't know what's happening. Is that a purity picture? Oh. First of all, I think you're more matured than your mother is.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Well, I agree with you there. And I like to say you used to be ashamed of yourself trying to tell your daughter to make to have sex. To make sex. To make sex. I agree. Don't make no more sex. And Sally, she can't catch age by sitting in the house reading books.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Well, even the mom said that's true. That's true. Good point. Natasha, why do you think your sister ought to have sex? Why do you think so? Well, she thinks men are just sex crazed, you know, and they're not. They, you know, they have feelings. No, we're not.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Most of the teenagers are. Believe it. Not if you get a nice guy. In my hometown, all the guys that I have ever met are sex crazed. How would you know that you're 16? You could just see some blood from your mouth. Yeah, just spit out some blood on everybody. I don't think you're going to have a hard time keeping the guys away.
Starting point is 00:45:43 All right. Well, we're going to try and figure out what's going out. And where they live. And where they live. And we'll be back on the commercial break. We'll be back after the break. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. You just let fly.
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Starting point is 00:47:19 See your local Nissan dealer today. Okay, we're back with a Sally Jesse Raphael. You better lose your virginity or else. I've heard it from dozens of girls who live where I live. Well, where do you live? There are some very nice young men. Yes, there are, but they're very rare. There looks like there was one in the audience there next to the...
Starting point is 00:47:44 Yeah, that woman has a lovely, lovely young man if you want to meet him. He doesn't seem like he'd know what to do with it if he found it. So there you go. I can't argue because I don't know your hometown. What would you like to say? This is your chance. You're on national television. What do you want to say to your mother and...
Starting point is 00:48:06 The exact right place to be settling family to spirit. This is your chance. If we've learned anything, it's that settling family disputes on national daytime TV. It's the only way to go. Men's fences in a way that in a counselor's office. Proven. It's been proven. This reminds me.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I'm watching that Seven Little Johnstons is back. And one of the children is kind of wilding out. She's an adult, but she's kind of wilding out. She was adopted. She's Russian. Seems like just a kid that's a little bit lost. Yeah. But, man, that family, for all the Seven Little Johnstons,
Starting point is 00:48:40 all kind of the formulaic episodes where they play a game and they take some pictures and they do a TikTok or whatever. They air every bit of laundry all the time on that show. Yeah, you have to after this many seasons. Yeah, they just let fly. I mean, they let fly. They really do. And I just keep thinking to myself, God, are you doing irreparable damage to the family unit by telling millions of people how you feel about your daughter when it's not that complimentary? Like, I'm sure we all are, I'm sure I'm going to feel that way about some of kids at some point. But I'm not going to go on the podcast and talk about it. I said, I don't think I will.
Starting point is 00:49:16 The content. Mom, just stop pressuring me because, you know, I'm going to live my own life the way I want to live it, you know. At least if you stop pressuring me, then, you know, I can start coming around again. And, you know, I just can't handle the way that you act, you know. No more negligence and no more condoms, okay? That mom looks scary. Scary. All right. Let's see what's up next.
Starting point is 00:49:45 All right. The other thing is, this is really the advent of like the five-minute storyline. And what I mean by that is that this is when TV starts moving a little quicker, right? You're not spending as much time on one particular story. You're just pushing it along. But he's doing it these days. They really are.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Today we're talking to teens who say, gosh, they're happy that they have their virginity. The problem is there's tremendous pressure. their friends and in some cases their family are pressuring them to have sex i want you to meet jessica and brook now they say they've made the decision jeez look at that hair the hair yeah one one hair looks wet and like padded like matted down to the head and one looks wet and teased to the bangs wait for sex until they meet the right man and they don't want to sleep around however i have to say you know a lot of times fashion and stuff, you know, makes
Starting point is 00:50:41 its way back. And I'm so happy that hairstyle never did. Yeah, that hairstyle should go away. Same with the Laura Ashley's dress. I mean, I can understand why it's cute on children. I get that part. They're really tired
Starting point is 00:50:56 of this enormous social and family pressure, and they want the harassment to stop. Crystal and Donnie have lost their virginity. They're the girls' friends, and they say Jessica and Brooke should just get it over with and stop teasing the guys they date Crystal and Donnie are listening backstage
Starting point is 00:51:14 they'll join us in a minute so they're each girl's girlfriend right you got that Jessica let me start with you just like Takisha you're 16 and you're a virgin what is it about your friend Crystal sexual behavior that causes you problems that you don't like well because I love her very much and I just don't want to see her get hurt
Starting point is 00:51:32 I'm afraid that she could get any kind of disease she doesn't know you know and she says that she's Protection. I don't know that. We've been friends for five years and I'd hate to see something. How would you know that? Well, I know. Yeah. Like, I mean... She said she did. Yeah, she said she did. She did. What are you going to do? You want to be involved? I'm sorry, because I really love her a lot. And she loves you and she pressures you too. A little, yeah, to extent. Okay. How do you stand up among your friends? I mean, isn't that kind of difficult thing?
Starting point is 00:51:59 I use my legs and I push my upper quadrants and then I balance on my toes. You do? Yeah, I kind of ignore it, but I kind of tell him, hey, this is me. And if you don't like me, you don't have to my friend. Good. It actually is good. It's a little refreshing to see teenagers who stand on business. You know what I'm saying? Jessica, you were dating someone that wanted to have sex with you, but you refused.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Right? Yes. What happened? We were together. We weren't together that long, maybe two months, and he wanted to do it. I was like, no. Well, then that's when him and Crystal started talking. Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Oh, snap. Now we're in a whole other quadrant. Yeah, now this is, Sally Jessie knows how to make it interesting. Now I also am remembering back to that time when it was like how long you had been dating was like maybe an indication of when you should be doing certain things like, you know, a week or a month in. First base, second base, third base, yeah, you know, you're fingering at a month in or whatever. And then just I also remember a time, sometimes. in high school when I just started thinking all of that was very ridiculous like what what what do we wait and what's how there's a time period we need to be waiting I personally believe she slept with him
Starting point is 00:53:17 she says no and that's when I started pressuring my friends lose your virginity or else but he's told me that she did sleep thin people at school that's got around say she told him that and I don't know so he told you he slept with her and a lot of friends have told you do you still love her if she slept with your boyfriend oh yeah I don't want to I don't have anything come between our friendship. I don't want to have something like that. I'm hurt because I can't believe she did that to me. You're hurt, but you still love her.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Oh, yeah. It's a guy isn't anything to throw a good friendship over. All right. All right. I like this girl's way of thinking so far. But then again, if your friend really did sleep with your boyfriend, then I don't know that she's the best friend to have. Is there something wrong? That said, when you're a teenager, it's all.
Starting point is 00:54:07 just gray area. It's so gray. With Crystal's behavior, you said that she does things that kind of make you feel very uncomfortable, like she was stripping, was she? Oh, yes, she's... What? What? She's 16. Things that make you feel uncomfortable, she was stripping.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Now, stripping, like getting ready to go to the pool or stripping professionally? You got to add some context. strip for $50 on a table What? That bothers me and I'm afraid that Look at the girl in the back is like vehemently denying all of it, but you know for a fact that she is the one line She did it What, what, where?
Starting point is 00:54:52 The guys are going to think she's so easy And she does have a reputation around school And I try to defend her But it's hard for me to defend her when sometimes I feel the same way And I don't know how to help her Stripping incident Yeah, go back to that Yeah, let's go back.
Starting point is 00:55:07 What? What happened? She was at a party with another friend. I wasn't there. And she was, some guy told her he gave her 50 bucks, but she stripped on the table. You know, she stood on the table and stripped. Like down to the nude? Yeah, like down to the nude or into her brawn panties or, I mean, I don't want to get graphic because the girls are young, but I want to know because I think it almost matters. You know what I'm saying? Like stripping nude at 15, 16 years old for, guy that's giving you 50 bucks is way fucking weird. Yeah. Yeah, brawn panties. And there's a bunch of other teenagers in the room. That's just teenage bullshit. You know what I'm saying? That's just I did that. I stripped down to my panties a lot. Why don't we hear what Crystal has to say? Crystal, come on out. Yeah, let's get Crystal out here. It's not time to meet your maker. On National TV. That's right, on National TV. We're all good arguments are settled. I can hug if they want to.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah, let him hug and kiss it out. Because she wouldn't have sex with a former boyfriend, you did. She says, is it true or is it not? It's not true. I can't believe she doesn't trust me. It's just because people told her that. Why did he tell me that? Because he's a liar.
Starting point is 00:56:30 He lied to us so bad. He was trying to go out with us at the same time. And then one day Jessica was just like, Brad, just tell me. Just tell me. What about the girls at school that's girls at school that tell me that you said? You know about the girls at school, Jessica. They're all lying and I'm not. I don't believe everything I hear about you, which is like not that you're very innocent either.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Well, you know. Oh. What kind of? A lot thickens. What kind of, what in the heathers is going on here? Crystal, you know that I don't sleep around. She says she thinks she's this holier than all. No, I do not.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah. I do not think I'm holding. Yes, you do. No, I do not. She has the power because she has a virgin power. Okay, Crystal, you're right. She's a bobby. She's a bad man.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Well, that's a freshman. It doesn't seem to say it. Yeah. Jessica, I'm not, or whatever her name is, I'm not sure this is the hill you want to die on here. I had a lot of partners, sexual partners. I wouldn't say a lot. 50 or 60. No.
Starting point is 00:57:33 I wouldn't say a lot. About 10. 10? 10. 10. 10 and 15 years old. Well, okay. To each their own.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Because I was 16, Crystal. You've two years, 10 guys. That's like five a year. Yeah, we can do the math. Thanks. It's like five a year. She did the math for her. Figured that out.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Just like a lot of people, Crystal, you have 16. Oh, she's spoiled your sexuality. Yeah. Want to tell Crystal anything in front of us? I love you very much. I'm afraid you're going to get hurt. You know that I'm not going to do anything that's stupid or ridiculous. Well, how do I know? I'm not. I have not. No, no, no. I have not slept around late.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I don't do that anymore. It was just, it was just, it was about a month ago. That's when I was sleeping around. I'm all, I'm cured of it now. When, um, it was just when I was younger, when I was younger, and now I slow down because I care about her. Because I know how she feels about it. And I know that she's worried about it. Why is everybody talking? Why there's so many people talking? I think she's a good influence on you. I'd like you to make Brooke.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Brooke is 18 years old, and she wants to wait. Brooke does not look 18. To lose her virginity. Brooke looks 27. Yes. And she doesn't want to have sex for the sake of it. Now, her friend, Donnie, will be out in just a minute. Brooke, why has your friend been pressuring you to have sex?
Starting point is 00:58:58 Basically, Donnie and I have known each other for a very long time. We've known each other since kindergarten, and we've been best friends for a long time. I think she's been pressuring me because we've had a really close relationship and we've done everything together and this is the only thing that we cannot talk about you know I mean I ask her questions and I'm really nosy about it but we haven't shared it so I don't
Starting point is 00:59:16 really know what she's talking about when she talks about sex so I think that it's a little bit of wanting me to do something that she's done and also I think it might be just a little bit of jealousy I still have my virginity I have something special to give to the right guy oh now if the other girl's 18 then that's your in a whole other
Starting point is 00:59:34 territory. Yeah. Talking about 14. 14. In 10 guys and between 14 and 15. 13, 14. Yeah. Is a whole different animal than 18. And it may sound trite. And it's just a number. And I get it. But when you're 18. Well, I still think there's statutory rape laws. When you're 18? No, below 16, right? Oh, for sure. Yeah. Well, I think below 18. Oh, is it below 18? I don't know because I've never had sex with anyone under the age of 18 as an adult. But you know what I'm saying. Brooke, what bothers you most about what Donnie? If I was single today, if I was single today, I think my cutoff line would be 30. I think that would be the cutoff line today. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:00:19 He does. What bothers me most? Well, basically, it's just that it's my personal feeling that I would like to keep my virginity. I want to wait until I meet the right guy. I'm not going to wait. I mean, it's not necessarily that I want to wait until I meet the right guy. It's just that I want to wait until I meet the right guy and then give him what I have to offer. But she just pressures me
Starting point is 01:00:36 And sometimes when a good friend wants you to do something You kind of take it into consideration Oh, a lot, yes. Oh, it's a lot. Teenage pressure is very strong. Brooke, while you were on vacation with Donna, you said she told a whole crowd of people that you were a virgin.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Did that embarrass you? Who's talking about this? I didn't grow up around these kind of people. I don't know. We weren't talking about this in large crowds. Like it just didn't... She's a virgin. She's a virgin.
Starting point is 01:01:04 She said when they were in Vegas? When they were on the beach or something like that. Meanwhile, the other one's stripping. This one's 13 and grandma's not home. Wow. It's wild out there. You've got to be careful. Blood's being spewed.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Here's a point. The world is full of people and most of them are not well. A lot of them showed up on Sally, Jesse Rapia on this one episode. What a wild, wild episode. I could have, I mean, I watched some of it, so I already knew. But it is really fucking wild. This particular episode. But this got me going on a whole, like, daytime talk show back in the 80s and 90s.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Oh, it's so much fun. We'll have to, maybe we'll make it a regular segment. I think so. Yank an old daytime talk show and throw it out there. Yeah, that was some good stuff. Oh, it's really good. All right. Well, here's my bottom line on this.
Starting point is 01:02:01 You'll know when you're ready. How's that? And, you know, talk with your parents. Don't be pressured. Don't be pressured. Talk with your parents. And if you choose to wait until marriage or when you're an adult or forever or whatever, that's your choice. The great news is it's your Willie Hoo-hoo or Ping-Pang, you get to do whatever you want with it.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Or you should get to do whatever you want with it. So don't let anybody else tell you what to do. Who cares? You know, if you're a virgin, you're a virgin. But if you're 13, really think about it. If you're under the age of 15 years old, 15 and under, give it some thought. It can change your life. Like my dad said, you're fucked.
Starting point is 01:02:40 If you're 16 and above, you're in the go zone, but just also... Yeah, think about it. You need to protect yourself. But that's a good rule of thumb until the time you die. You need to protect yourself. Take it from someone who knows. Children will change your life. And I can't imagine that changing like that when I was 16 years old.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I would have been royally screwed, royally screwed. But then I know young mothers who did just find. Now they're living there. Teen moms. Yeah, that's right. They're some of my best friends. They're fine. Everything turned out great for them.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Well, they get paid a lot of money to do teen moms. Anyway, you know, whatever. Blah, blah, blah. All right, a couple things. Go watch the Nacho Redondo episode or listen to it. It's Tuesday's episode. And tell us what you think by dialing in. 212-4333-3-TCB.
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