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innovation, everything that matters to investors right now. And Michael, before we even shout out
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long stretches of time where I like sort of know what's going on in the market and I have a decent
handle on it. But then there are these periods of time where I just like have it on smash.
Like I have the market in the palm of my hand. I'm literally like telegraphing.
this is going to happen now this is going to happen we're in one of those moments right now I have
never felt more alive and connected with the tape as I do today and I just wanted to know if you
agree with that are you are you like getting that sense that you are exciting am I getting
that I that this is one of my market moments that like I just I own this right now like I'm so I'm
so I'm so dialed in right now you're not feeling you're not getting that that's not coming
off of me that's not emanating
You're doing great work.
You know I'm a big fan.
No, we know it, but not always right at this moment.
Okay.
Like this is my tape.
This is fine.
I guess this is the most exciting tape that we've had in a long time.
It's been boring.
That's a good take, but finish the thought.
And Josh has caught it by the tail like a tiger.
I have.
I really have.
We're going to talk about, all right, guys, today's a, this is a really important show.
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We set the table.
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Now we're bringing you dessert.
Honestly, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like pulsating.
Like I, I just, there's just something about my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my command of this particular moment.
It won't last.
I understand it's ephemeral.
Nobody gets to hold on to the market forever.
But right now, I don't know anyone else.
I don't know of anyone else.
that that has it the way that I have it.
I'm feeling really pumped about that.
I wish I had your confidence.
Let's get to the show.
All right.
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Let's sniff some risk. What do you say?
I mean, it's not hard to sniff it. It's literally, it's hiding around every corner.
Stinky.
I believe that I have identified this year's dominant investing theme.
And I am calling it Halo, which is a.
acronym for heavy assets, low obsolescence. Just that first blush, does that pass your sniff test?
Does that seem to be an accurate reflection of the stocks that are going up versus the stocks
that aren't in in 26? Oh, I'm sniffing it. It's, it passes mustard of the Dijon variety.
And it passes muster. Back to you. All right. So what we're talking about here, guys, the stocks that are not
disruptable, at least not currently, by AI. I think I actually have discovered the first new
factor of the post-AI era, although I am not personally equipped to figure out how to quantify it.
That's a Kai-Wu thing. Ki-Wu. Kywu should be all over this. But so here's what's interesting.
You keep hearing people talk about rotation and you keep hearing people talk about broadening.
but those are anachronistic terms that do not fully capture and reflect what's actually happening
here because Halo stocks are not necessarily value and they're not necessarily growth.
They could be either or they could be both.
It's not about that dichotomy this time around.
It's not a value to growth, growth to that.
We're not talking about that.
they're not even natively they're not even native to any particular sector although we do have a lot of halo stocks in energy materials and consumer staples
halo stocks obey a very simple litmus test and you can do this as a rhetorical exercise out loud ask yourself
the following whenever somebody puts a ticker in front of you if you somewhat know the fundamentals
can an LLM replicate what this company makes or sells or can it not?
And you're going to have to be a little bit creative because things are being disrupted out of nowhere.
But generally speaking, we spent 15 years celebrating these asset light businesses, software being a really obvious example, information services, consulting.
a lot of the white collar services part of the economy.
Asset light, asset light.
That's what everybody wanted.
High margin businesses.
And they didn't really have like big, heavy things on their balance sheets.
Can I just have to check for one second?
Yeah.
These asset life businesses, not to be like super doomy, but these are companies that
when the equity goes to zero, the bonds go to zero.
Yes.
And hopefully it doesn't come to that.
But that's the test.
So if the answer is yes, that's not a stock that's going to work right now.
Unfortunately, if the answer is no, then, my friends, you have a halo stock on your hands.
So I'm hearing people say rotation.
They're saying broadening.
They're missing it.
I want to quote from Mike Wilson, who is a strategist at Morgan Stanley on the broadening.
And he says the broadening accelerates.
Despite choppiness across large cap indices last week,
our broadening thesis continued to play out
with the S&P equal weight index breaking out to all-time highs on Friday.
Again, this is something that you and I have been talking about for months now.
In particular, we were encouraged by significant outperformance
from early cycle reflation trades, transports, housing, regional banks, small caps.
We continue to like these areas of the market
which align with our run-at-hot framework.
So he's thinking about like the Fed dropping rates and the economy re-accelerating.
And he might be right.
So I'm not contradicting him.
I think the point that I'm making is it's not about people just all of a sudden
deciding they want to broaden out.
And a lot of these areas that are rallying, that rally is not being accompanied by
improving fundamentals necessarily.
What's actually happening is people are looking at their holdings and they're saying,
is anthropic about to fuck this company's life up or not?
And where you can say or not, more dollars are going to be allocated.
And I could give you a million examples of individual stocks.
And believe me, I'm looking at the charts in the dock.
I will.
But I think that that is really what's happening here.
And I don't think the strategists on Wall Street, they're sort of describing it with
some of these old terms from another era, but they're not quite capturing the story as well
as I'm trying to.
What are thoughts, Michael?
I think you did a great job capturing the current zeitgeist, as you often do at turning
points.
Last week during the bloodbath, because it was a bloody week, 337 stocks in the S&P 500 were
up on the week.
How nuts is that?
The index was basically unchanged, despite the carnage underneath, particularly in these
anti-halo names.
And investors are taking note.
Gungen tweeted something like,
more money went into sector funds,
ex tech last week than the entirety of 2025.
In 2025, the only thing people wanted to buy were tech names.
And just last week, it was a vacuum in the other direction.
Yeah.
Can anthropic disrupt Delta?
Airlines.
No.
I know it's a torquil.
Delta is a heavy asset, low obsolescence risk.
Nobody's going to come out with a new plane next week, and there's nothing an LLM can do that will materially change whether or not people are going to fly.
Delta is Halo.
There are so many, there are so many obvious examples of this.
Now, Delta also has a great fundamental outlook for this year,
because travel is doing really well.
So let's take a stock where it's not quite that.
Pepsi.
At best, Pepsi can grow three or four percent a year.
Why would the stock price go up 15% in two weeks?
That is a re-rating because Pepsi is halo.
Claude cannot give you a Diet Pepsi or a bag of Fritos, right?
Like to me, it's so clear, this is not about a broadening.
This is a, these people buying these stocks are refugees from the 500 or so asset light,
SaaS related stocks that they've been riding for 15 years.
That it's, it's literally like somebody flipped a switch and everyone now understands.
They have a lot of portfolio disruption risk.
And they're looking where else can I go where I don't have to worry.
I bet LLMs in my sleep.
Let me give you the top 10.
There's 149 stocks in the S&P 500 that are within 5% of a 52-week high are right there, okay?
150.
It's a lot.
These are the top 10 names by MarketCat.
And they all make the list of what you're talking about.
Walmart, J&J, Bank of America, Chevron, Caterpillar, Cisco, GE.
Coca-Cola, Merck and Goldman.
Halo, halo, halo, halo, right?
With the exception of Goldman, but you could argue like Goldman's sort of playing both sides.
Some of what they do has disruption risk, but then they're also the company doing all the
investment banking deals to raise money for the disruptors.
But all these stocks, all these businesses are not disruptible.
Philip Morris, McDonald's, G.E. Vernova, Citigroup, Verizon.
They're not under assault.
That's right.
And most of them, most of them are telling the sell side stories of efficiencies thanks to return
on investment via AI.
So not only are they not disruptable by anything that Claude is doing, but put that aside,
in many cases, there are beneficiaries, not victims of all this disruption.
These are the companies that are paying Salesforce and Workday and Service Now and Monday.com
and all of these SaaS companies.
These are the payers.
And if the payers have some leverage because of innovation, Wall Street's going to look
at that as being worthy of taking multiples up, not down.
Golden Sachs said that software stocks are like newspaper stocks in 2002.
This is brutal to me.
me. This might be way too far.
That's crazy. I want to share what they said.
Goldman Sachs warning the great software stock route of 26 may be just beginning.
I don't think it's just beginning, but I don't think it's over.
One should look no further than how the rise of the internet in the early 2000s hammered
the newspaper industry to get a taste of what may be to come.
Quote, one lesson from historical examples of industries facing disruption risk.
is that share price stability requires stability
in the earnings outlook.
Newspapers faced risk from technological disruption
as the internet grew in the early 2000s.
The share prices of the group declined
by an average 95% between 0.2 and 09,
said Ben Snyder, Goldman Sachs strategist.
Quote, the multi-year decline of newspaper stocks
ended only as earnings estimates bottomed
and the litigation disruption of tobacco followed a similar pattern.
In this case, the uncertainty around the eventual impact of AI
means near-term earnings results will be important signals of business resilience,
but in many cases, insufficient to disprove the long-term downside risk.
We talked about this.
There was no proof point.
Even if earnings deliver, we're still not giving these stocks the same multiples that they got,
because right around the next corner
could be something disruptive
we're not even thinking of.
Give me these charts, guys.
These are Goldman's charts.
On the left, newspaper stocks declining
by 95% in seven years.
I wasn't even aware of how brutal that period was.
I guess I didn't own these things.
I was getting blown up in other stocks.
On the right,
this is newspaper share prices troughing
just ahead of consensus earnings estimates troughing.
So that's interesting.
They eventually, newspaper earnings eventually did bottom when there were like five of them left.
But that's a super dire outlook.
What are your, what are your thoughts?
Is Ben Snyder going too far here?
Yeah.
I would say two things could be true.
It's an overreaction in the software stocks and it's an overreaction that makes sense because we have no idea what the future holds.
It is so influx and guess what?
Investors are always going to overreact and I think they're right to overreact.
And I think they're right to overreact because we spoke about Adobe a lot.
It doesn't matter what they're reporting today.
They can report record revenue, record earnings.
It doesn't matter.
Because investors are looking down over the horizon.
And we're all guessing.
Think about how fast the narratives are shifting with this.
Think about how screwed Google was until it wasn't.
So we could easily look back and say, this is a joke.
They're comparing enterprise software companies that Pitchbook made the analogy.
This is, it's open heart surgery to replace these.
companies at at big companies right corporate america is not going to start vibe coding their own solutions
so to replace sales force is very difficult it's not going to happen overnight so this type of this type of
analogies to me strikes me as come on well i think i think uh there were a lot of defenses of the
newspaper stocks too they used to talk about the subscriber bases they used to talk about the specificity
of the advertising product for a specific like for a geographic region and how hard that would be
for Google to replicate they couldn't but Michael in 02 they couldn't envision Facebook because it because
Mark Zuckerberg was in 10th grade and that's the point and that's why it's so hard for these
stocks to bottom dude I understand first of all to your point um so let's let's look at the performance
it's it's foggly well I want to get it I want to get into two of the defenses uh go ahead
Hold this for one second, guys.
Goldman is not, the Goldman view,
and I don't even know if the whole Goldman believes this,
this is one of their people,
is not being shared by every firm on the street.
JP Morgan defended software.
This is Dubrovco-Lakos, who said,
the market is pricing and worst-case AI disruption scenarios
that are unlikely to materialize over the next three to six months.
That's right.
You'll have to wait nine months at least.
given the positioning flush, overly bearish outlook on AI disruption.
We believe the balance of risks is increasingly skewed toward a rebound.
I think you're getting that right now, especially in higher quality software segments.
He probably means cybersecurity.
Morgan Stanley, Katie Huberti, quote,
we believe the dislocation in U.S. software evaluations is sentiment-driven, not fundamental.
Yeah, well.
Yeah.
Works the same way, though.
Right.
Not fundamental yet.
Sentiment first.
Then maybe fundamental.
We'll find out.
So, all right, let's go.
I, uh, I bought the puke on Thursday.
I sold it today, IGV.
I'm not looking to like be a hero called a permanent.
Good, though.
Yeah, I mean, seven percent.
Not bad.
All right.
Look at you.
Now you can, now you could sleep at night.
You don't have to go overnight with that.
I'm out.
Um, so I don't, you know, I don't expect like a V shape recovery.
I think that would be unusual because the looming threat.
It's not going away.
All of these companies can't prove.
They can't neutralize the threat.
There's nothing that they can say or do that is going to make people that are selling forget that anthropic is looming.
Well, I mean, that's so that's like the main point that I'm trying to make is even if you say, even if you say these stocks are at a historic discount, like the cheapest that they've been.
for the last 10 years or whatever.
Right, because you could also say yes.
And the reason is that there is the, so I think that this is going too far.
I just don't think it's over.
And I worry that they will rebound and then roll right back over again because this fear
is not going to go away.
And that's why I'm talking about the halo side of the market that's just far removed
from these concerns.
So here's what I think can quell the sell.
not today, but the thing that can fix this is time.
So I don't know if it's another two quarters or another six quarters, but if Adobe
continues to print record numbers for another five consecutive quarters, guess what?
The stock will have been a screaming by because at some point people were saying, all right, I guess,
I guess they're integrating AI.
I guess the threat that we perceived was overblown.
But I don't know when that happens.
Yeah.
Well, no one does.
and I won't be the one that knows in advance.
But I do think rollovers after bounces are more likely than V.
Same.
And if it's a V, I'll look like an asshole, but that'll be great because you're talking about a lot of damage out there in this group and not fully deserved by all of them.
I can't believe the extent to which they beat up cybersecurity.
that makes no sense to me i don't care if if it's a i driven software or enterprise sass you're
going to need cybersecurity in either case if you're in business you can't it's that oh i i coded up
my own cyber security i mean it's the dumbest thing i've ever seen so to me that makes no sense but i
also understand people are not waiting they they probably think all right this is probably not a
great sale, but I still think I'm going to have a better opportunity later to buy back.
And maybe they'll get punished for that.
Maybe some of the people that are blowing out of these names now are going to look dumb in
two weeks.
I don't know.
We're going to find out.
John, can we skip a few charts?
We could circle back, but the IGV shares outstanding one.
So positioning in IGV has now been completely flushed and is, this is from Goldman,
and is significantly reduced since last summer with the ETF shares outstanding reaching
near five-year lows earlier this week. In short, there's almost nobody left to sell.
So this is the thing that it's like, come on, there was such an extreme flush.
Like nobody's, everybody's out.
Retail started buying.
Good. Yeah, retail came running in and bought the dip.
Dude, retails, this is no longer the dumb money. They've bought a lot of successful dips over the years.
So I am not thumbing my nose up at that.
I agree. And I hate that whole, I hate that whole narrative that there retells the dumb money.
They, they caught every V-shaped recovery we've seen in every asset class like over the last few years.
So I agree with you.
One more thing on this. And then we can recycle some of the charts that you have in here.
So I felt today when we saw Schwab and Raymond James dump 10%, John, next chart, please.
Just out of nowhere.
We're like, wait, what is what is happening?
Schwab was at a 52 week high.
Matter of fact, this morning, Schwab was at an all-time high.
I look up, it's down 10%.
And I immediately bought the stock when I found out what it was going on.
So the stock was down 10% because our friend Jason Wank and his company, Altruist,
which Josh is an investor in.
We believe in the company.
We work with them.
They're doing great work.
They're a great custodial solution.
Relative to Schwab, they are tiny, tiny, tiny.
and they announce their AI, it's a, it's a, it's a,
I solution.
All right.
So it's doing tax things and notes things and it's a whole thing and it's great.
It's called Hazel.
And that alone whacked 10% off the biggest custodian in the galaxy.
And this is what some software investors must feel like when they see the
companies, because like we know what's happening here, right?
This is our business.
So I Instabought.
Now listen, I sold it.
I made, I made, I made.
I made two bucks. Thank you very much Algo's for the, for the free gift. Because I don't know how investors are going to treat this tomorrow, but just we know for a fact, this is crazy. This is such a nonsensical overreaction. 10% of Raymond James and Schwab because of this. Don't you think this is like what software knowers must feel like to see some of their names getting killed? So that's a really great point. And I'm glad you brought that up. What is the what is that thing? It's like a special type of amnesia.
Um, Gelman.
Something gelman, though.
Gelman amnesia is when you see something, that's exactly what I thought of.
It's when you see something in the newspaper that you're an expert on, okay?
And you read it and you say, what?
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
This person has no idea what they're talking about.
And then you flip a page and you smile and you erase your memory and you believe what
you read on the next page.
Right.
As if the reporter covering the thing you don't know about is going to be any more of an
expert than the report.
who just wrote the article that you laughed at.
Exactly.
So it's actually, it's G-E-E-L-L-L-M-A-N-N-A-N-A-N-A-N-A-A-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-FFET.
Guess who coined that term?
This is great.
Robert Gel-Man.
No, Michael Crichton.
He coined the term in a 2002 speech titled, Why Speculate, and he named it after a Nobel Prize-winning physicist
named Murray-Gel-Man.
And so he gets the credit.
Coining a phrase is not the person who invented it per se,
although in this case it sounds like it is.
Coining it is the person who makes it a thing.
And gelman amnesia.
So we know that Schwab should not have lost 10% of its market cap
because somebody launched an AI tax tool.
We understand that, you and I,
because we know this industry backwards and forwards.
but the rest of the market doesn't.
So then somebody looking at this happening in another category of software stocks that knows
that they're talking about, to your point, they must be saying the same thing.
Like, are people out of their minds?
And I think that that is the number one argument against blowing these stocks out right now.
You know, so if you're overweight and you're super heavy in these names and you have too many
of them or whatever and we get a really nice bounce, okay.
different story, maybe as a little bit of the fog of war is lifted, you can make some sales.
But like, you sell a stock that's down 10 days in a row on no news.
Like, what are we doing here?
But so this is the market that we're in, the halo market.
And it's also just zoom out the market structure that exists, where it's just all
algos.
Like no fundamental, no human being is seeing the news from altruist, which I don't,
which was not like a secret and is selling Schwab 10% down.
and Raymond James.
And I would imagine a bunch of other names.
All right, I want to go back to some of these charts, okay?
Can we do?
There's a new theme in town.
So shout to Chart Kid Matt, aka Chart Goat, Matt.
This is energy up 20% in total return so far in 2026.
We've been all over this on our show.
We keep talking about Chevron and Exxon and Baker Hughes, et cetera.
I don't know when these stocks are going to take a breather.
But they, I mean, even on a, I think energy might have been read today or some of the names
in energy might, but they barely go down.
The buyers are sticking it out.
And here you can see materials up 16.4%.
Again, total return.
And then you can see consumer staples up 12.3.
Halo, halo and halo.
Those three sectors, in addition to industrials, have, and healthcare have like most of the
halo stocks in them.
They have the heavy assets on their books that they own cannot be replicated.
They're not information businesses.
Let's do equal weight versus cap weight.
It's just another way of thinking about the same story.
You have lots of stocks, all of a sudden catching a bid, and many of them are of the halo
persuasion.
Next chart is small caps and mid caps hitting new highs.
no mag seven in these names
yes they have software
but they have so many other things
so bullish right
there's retail there's staples
there's industrials in both of these indices
and it's just a very different story
for the rest of the market
staples are overbought
uh shorn and i did a column for cnbc pro
yesterday we told people do not
buy coke and pepsi at 85 rsi
and coke reported this morning the stock pulled back
that appears to have been good advice
It's got to be like an all-time high for RSI.
No. Coke doesn't get overbought like this ever.
Coke's like you can't find Coke in an 85 RSI, really anywhere in history.
It's it just, it's this absurd structural thing where people are like, can't disrupt the Coke.
And it's, that's not a great setup if you're a new long.
Let me show you some other Halo names.
These are like obvious ones.
ExxonMobil chart.
151.
new all-time high today. Unbelievable. This thing is up 30% since the year started or something like
that. Just nonstop rally. Walmart. Like obviously the trucks, the logistics, the distribution,
the customer loyalty, the geographic presence. They compete with Amazon, but you're not coding up a Walmart.
Okay.
McDonald's.
Same thing.
Can't replicate the sensation
of taking down a 20-piece McNugget
on a Friday night
after a sixer, right?
There's only one place to get it
and you can't get it at home on your computer.
Here's Valero.
Obviously, like, you're not going to refine gas
with a large language model.
Here's Martin Marietta Materials.
they literally make asphalt and concrete this is not disruptable at the present moment um oh you showed me
the IGV sheriff's positioning hold on i thought i thought i had i thought i had a different chart
maybe i maybe i threw it in somewhere later just the just the retail pile into
the IGV, like all of a sudden they came running and by the dip and I think I have that somewhere
in here. I haven't seen it.
So all right, before we move to the next topic, I just want to read you, just getting back to
the Schwab thing. Let me read you the lead in a Bloomberg article today, Josh. And let me see your
reaction. Tax planning and wealth management stocks sank Tuesday after financial software
provider altruist launched an artificial intelligence tool for creating tax strategies,
sparking concerns that traditional players could be at risk.
Literally and zero disrespect. We love Jason. What?
Uh, I, I, all right. So the backdrop though is, um, did you see what S&P global did today?
Smushed and it's the stock is getting murdered. Murdered like literally acts murdered. The stock went
down 43 points today just because just cause it pre-market was down like 20% so it's a panicky
environment people don't want to be in the next stock that potentially could be down 20%
and that's why that's why they're reacting this way green chart john slime green chart so
this is the nature of the market it's just get rid of it we're looking at a chart of
equity turnover and it just it just topped a trillion dollars this is the average daily u.s equity
market so yeah people are just not waiting around sell it get it out whack it off
Ian is asking why did did s p sm global do what it did today they've reported earnings this morning
they reported earnings but and i don't even know if the earnings were good i don't even know if it would
matter i honestly like i've never i've never seen anything like this i haven't listened to the call i'm
All right. They were supposed to, I mean, they were supposed to report $4.34. They did $4.30.
That's not it. That's not it. All right. Right. All right. So I am of the view that this broadening out, this halo rotation is very bullish. Okay. That is my opinion. But it is also reasonable to talk about the other side. Well, market has lost the leadership. Is it about the top? So I've got a,
bunch of charts to get through. Let's look at the top 50 stocks from Adam Parker. We're looking at
the median gross margin by mega cap stock, X financials, ex real estate. And yeah, guess what? A lot of
the mega tech growth, wow, it's a mouthful, is getting sold because their margins are getting
smushed. The market is not dumb. In fact, I would argue it's smart. Next chart, please. You love to see
this. The SEP 500, the price is going up. The multiple is coming down. I'd say that's pretty
healthy. Would you agree? The price is going up, but well, is it healthy or is it concerning
because why is the multiple coming down? Fears. I like it. I like fear. Um, duality research,
check out this no sniffer of a chart. Just last week, the S&P 500 recorded the most 50 new 52 week
highs since 2024 on a day that was likely the worst since liberation day for many investors.
How's that? Yeah. I mean, it's unreal. It's just this like, like, by,
Diffrication and people are just, they're not worried about most of the stocks.
They're worried about some stocks and they happen to be worried about some of the biggest
stocks or were the biggest stocks.
It's hard to make the case that the market is peaking when you have so many stocks going
up.
I know that sounds like circular, but look at this next one from duality.
If you look back at how the S&P 500 peaked a year ago, both breadth measures were already
rolling over.
talking about the New York Stock Exchange Advanced Declan line, as well as the number of stocks
above their 200 day. That's in the green and the purple and the great backdrop is the S&P.
So those breadth names were already rolling over. Right now, like literally, we're seeing the
exact opposite. I read the Adam Parker piece. And what he's saying is that the market is now
pricing in lower margins. And the reason that matters is because the leadership stocks of the market
had been the companies that were expanding margins.
And now the markets are afraid that the biggest margin expanders
are going to go through this multiple re-rate lower because,
and, you know, we're talking about Mag 7, like, Amazon says we're going to spend
$200 billion in CAPX.
Like everyone's CAPX numbers are going up, which sounds great.
And it is if you sell semiconductors, but it's unlikely that,
margins will survive. And I just want to, I want to just share this one data point that I thought was,
okay, the largest 10 companies are spending 35% of all the capital spending dollars of the top
2,000 U.S. companies. And that is clearly poised to massively rise, given the guidance from the
largest companies. And Adam says, this has to be a problem. We pointed out a couple of weeks ago,
a legitimate fair case for U.S. equities is a lack of Goldilocks on hyperscalor capital spending,
meaning too little and people get concerned that companies are worried about the return on investment.
Too much, CAPX, and it results in an inevitable data center overbuild.
So.
I think that's a good take.
But what, but what if that's, what if, what if a company announces that they're going to
spend not $200 billion in 2026?
What if next quarter to Amazon says, all right, we're going to pull it back to 160.
You think the market freaks out?
Maybe the market rallies on that and says, thank God.
You know what?
It's a great question.
But again, back to the gross margin story.
He's saying gross margins of the mega caps are contributing to this overall gross margin degradation.
And he points out median gross margins among the top 50 stocks have just fallen from 55.7.
percent in December to 50.6% at the end of January. And that is the lowest level for gross
margins since 2012. So these used to be asset light companies with just insane gross margins.
And now given all the investments that they're making, and I'm not saying they're bad
investments and all the spending. And by the way, taking on a lot of debt too, et cetera,
the gross margin story is degrading, starting with the biggest companies.
And he's just pointing that out as a market headwind.
I would say that's a market headwind, a bear case for the mega cap stocks that are doing all
the spending.
Their bare case is the bulk case for the 65% of the companies that are beneficial of all
of this.
So let's skip the next chart, John, and go to the breadth dashboard.
So this is, we're looking at the stocks above their moving averages, various from 10 to 200 days
by sector.
We're looking at the ones that are making new highs by four week all the way out to 52 week,
the ones that are making new lows.
And we're looking at RSI.
So this is a chart kit special.
And the first thing that I want to look at is making new lows.
All right.
There's no staples.
There's no energy.
There's no materials.
Look at this.
What's making new lows in the short term.
And there's really no 52 weeks to speak of.
I mean, even within tech, which is, you know, the epicenter, it's 5.7%.
Communication services, 8.7%.
They're making new eight week lows, new 12 week lows.
And yeah, they're falling below.
They're moving averages.
But look at every, look at the industrials, the staples, the energy.
Like look at the percentage of other moving out.
They're all working.
They're all working.
They're all working and barely any losers in, in those sectors.
And if they are losers in those sectors, they're not noteworthy companies for the most part.
Okay.
Do you know, UPS just hit my list of best stocks in the market?
UPS, remember what a basket case that stock was the last time we talked about it,
which is probably sometime in the middle of last year.
Because UPS is Halo.
It's physical delivery of goods.
There's no workaround.
If you need to move things from point A to point B, you're using either UPS or one of their competitors,
but people aren't up at night worried about somebody like stealing their thunder.
And that's just, it's just a totally different market this year.
And it's, it's actually pretty exciting.
Okay.
So is the market about the top?
I've got two more for you.
This is from a blue kirtik.
Pull this from a daily chart book.
All right.
The VIX closed above 21 after staying below it for 49 straight days.
Historically, this setup has been bullish.
In the prior 28 cases, the S&P 500 was negative, only twice.
12 months out, okay? Only two times out of the most recent 28 cases. We don't see those
conditions today. This is a healthy market pullback. I would agree with the data.
What market pullback, though? Right. Like what? Well, there was a there was a stock pullback.
Now, you know, the stocks have pulled back. Stocks have pulled back. Here's another one.
Here's another one from turning point market research. He's looking at the S&P 500 after more,
than 18% of its members registered a 52-week high. And it was at the highest level in over a year.
And look at all those green arrows. There was one time it didn't work out. So yeah, there's no
guarantee. But this type of broadening is bullish a.F. It just is. Doesn't mean it's going to
work 100% of the time. But like that's what it is until it's not. I think it where it becomes
problematic is obviously like whatever's working will always go too far. And then if all of the
these like quote unquote broadeners don't deliver on earnings or guidance, then it's like,
well, what do we have to hang our hats on now?
Yeah, of course.
That's right.
Of course.
Because, no, but historically, though, historically, though, you had these 20% growers,
mega cap software stocks with massive margins and unbelievably reliable cash flow streams
from license revenue.
And like the market could like fall back on those and they're gone.
They're, there, you don't have that layer in the market of like shore fire stocks because
then no longer that.
And investors are taking the money out of those names and they're putting into other names.
I just hope those other names don't disappoint.
So do I.
Last one.
I thought this is a really good chart.
All right.
Returns in 2025 versus so far in 2026.
And what I noticed here is the winners in 2025.
It's really like almost all they're nothing.
They're either getting killed or they're ripping.
There's really no in between.
I guess water buzz, but that doesn't count.
That's a special search.
So on the one hand, the stocks that are under pressure that were major winners,
App Love and Palantir Robin Hood.
And the winners that won last year that are continuing, Micron, Seagate, Western Ditch,
Lamb Research, Corning.
I wish I loved anything as much as you love saying Western Ditch.
I really I wish I did I wish I did I can't wait put that back up what else is on there
Terodyne what's fix how come I don't know that stock fix is that that's what is that's
what is that's that's fix no way SMP it can't fix fix stock I don't know either
Lamb research is on here comfort systems I don't know what that is comfort oh HVAC oh that's
HVAC oh that's so halo are you kidding me that's that is like
the definition of Halo. All right. Let's do Robin Hood. So Robin Hood's got Robin Hood is my favorite
report to look at. Just visually, they do a phenomenal job. And Robin Hood, Robert's got a good thing
going. I mean, the stock was under pressure. Not tonight, but it doesn't matter. It's a great
business. It really is. They're, they're killing it. Yep. Let's go to some charts. All right.
The first thing I want to say is just a reaction. And this could obviously change. This stock has fallen from
150 to where it closed tonight at 85 and in the post market is now down to 79.
Yeah.
This is a full 50% haircut if it opens at this price tomorrow.
It's crypto.
It's trading off crypto, period.
So somebody was saying like their revenue, their crypto revenue percentage has fallen so
much.
It's like less than 10% at this point.
I don't think that's true.
That's not true.
I haven't.
It can't be true, right?
We have it here.
Let's go to some charts.
All right, total platform assets, $324 billion.
Is that, I mean, unbelievable.
Is that 68%?
What does that say, over here?
Put it this way.
No one else in this industry has a growth rate that looks like this.
Nobody.
All right.
So here are some things that are not awesome.
Next chart.
The total net revenue was up 1% quarter over quarter.
So, you know, stalled out there.
Operating expenses are growing.
And I don't think the street like this.
Operating expenses, the,
the outlook was $2.6 to $2.75 billion.
It represents 18% year-over-year growth.
That's, you know, that's high.
Street did not like that.
Yeah.
All right, next chart.
What's in that?
What's in that?
Like, a stop-based compensation I get.
What's in their operating expenses?
I'm guessing it's built out of prediction markets and investing in the business.
I didn't have time to read into it yet.
I guess SGNA would, like, the advertising would be there.
they're spending a ton of money on ads that I know.
Check this out.
Transaction-based revenue.
So the options are just, I mean, unbelievable.
Options up 41% year of a year,
it's where most of their revenue, like by far,
3% quarter over quarter.
But look at the crypto.
So it's still massive.
Options is the neon yellow.
Is neon.
Yeah.
So crypto is the light gray.
So interestingly.
it's down 38% year over year.
It's down 18% quarter over quarter,
but it's still a significant piece of their revenue.
Yeah.
221 of 776.
I don't know who I was listening to.
They were like people don't understand like crypto is not as important as it used to be.
I'm like it's not.
Yes, it is.
I feel like it definitely is, right?
Look at the stock and look at Bitcoin.
Same thing.
All right.
This is wild.
Net interest revenues is up 39% to $411 million dollars.
And the thing that jumps out, obviously, to me anyway,
is margin interest a hundred ninety six million dollars for the quarter people are trading their asses
off and using leverage to do it wait a minute they made a hundred and ninety six million dollars
in 90 days on margin interest oh my shit i mean this is a stock aside this is a good business
they are printing money they're loan sharking their users on mark on margin
they're giving people what they want um i love this chart i love this chart i love this chart i love this
chart. This is showing, okay, so on the one end, yes, there was a not so small percentage of the,
of the user base that is having a good time, that is speculating. But this chart is showing
the average cumulative net deposits, which has grown over time across their funded customer
cohorts and recent cohorts. So the light yellow, okay, the 2,021 cohort, you see that over
time and how it's growing. But look more recently, look at the top line, the people that are putting
money in today. These are legitimate deposits. Like people are, people are growing up. They're aging.
And I love it. I think this is a cool chart. It's fun. It's funny because this was one of the best
performing stocks in the S&P last year or maybe the best. And I guess I just didn't look at that
and think that it was so heavily reliant on Bitcoin. And you know, last year was like the first
full year of Trump 2.0 and he's like the Bitcoin president. And like in the end, like Bitcoin didn't
finish the year very well. It peaked in October. But like Robin Hood held on. And then this year,
I guess when Bitcoin got into the 80,000ish range, that was it. They just pulled the stool out
from under this stock. Well, guess what? Q1 numbers for crypto for the Robin reports, I'm guessing
are going to be an absolute disaster.
Unless like, yeah, people aren't going to trade more crypto as it falls.
Sentiment is DED.
All right, here's another good chart.
They continue to gain market share over time.
Look at the equities.
It was 45 basis points of all trading in 2022.
It's up to 1.1%, which is a remarkable number when you consider like how deep the market is.
Options market share.
They've got 7.5% margin market share.
Crypto. I mean, the business is the business they're they're winning. They're doing
phenomenal work. The street doesn't like it for reasons that are obvious right now. But
here's one other negative point in the report that I saw. Next chart,
monthly active users decreased by 1.9. What? Yeah, that was surprising. And this
so Q4. Yeah. So that's not great. That's not great and worse or maybe just as bad.
Annualized revenue per employee was down 2% year over year.
So they've got some things to figure out, some things to work through.
But these are growing pains.
Am I like not a short-term call on the stock because the street doesn't like right now.
The business, this is a very good business.
They're doing a good job.
So somebody who is bearish on Robin Hood or pessimistic on their model would say
people are losing too much money in bare markets relative to what other brokerage
customers lose and they're burning by enabling, by enabling,
the type of trading that we talk about a lot,
they could be burning the long-term value
of these customers because people blow up and go away.
I understand that.
I don't do on, necessarily,
on legacy platforms like Fidelity.
I think it's a reasonable point.
I don't know if it's true.
It might not be true, but it's a reasonable concern.
Of course it is.
Of course it is.
I'm not sweeping onto the rug out of hand.
I just think that that is,
I'm making it.
this up of 3% of their users i have no idea i don't think like all their users showed me the but you just
showed me the margin number that can't be 3% of the users generating 200 million dollars in margin
fees but wait but you're assuming that everybody who's using margin is blowing up yeah and they're
going to go and they're going to go away you forget i was a retail broker for 12 11 years is a pretty
good assumption um taking care of business loco in the chat says prediction markets cannibalizing their own
customers. So I had this thought. I wouldn't exactly phrase it as cannibalizing their own customers,
but like, you know, they're making this big splashy launch into prediction markets.
We can't possibly think that that's going to be a winning adoption for most of the people who go
there. Now, I know the trades are small and probably don't ruin people's lives. So I'm not worried
about that. But to some extent, if you show somebody a game like that, they don't necessarily
have more money to play it, they just play less of a different game. And in fact, some of the
crypto people are talking about how prediction markets have given traditional crypto players
a new, more exciting game to play, and that that could be behind the sell-off in Bitcoin
at Eath, Sol. Again, I can't prove or disprove it. I'm just telling you what people are saying.
Is it possible that there is cannibalization because you just put too many shiny things in front
of the same baby perhaps okay i mean it's a it you know it's a thing that people many people are saying
this i'm just reporting what i hear you know i'm i'm talking to people all over town so okay anything
else what a missouho say i'm gonna give you i mean not much uh dan dolev friend of the show
quick quick perspective prediction markets were strong but overall mixed quarter and he points out
average revenue per user $191 versus the estimated 200 that's a big
our po is our po is the big number for these stocks like in the end um all right let's keep going
okay uh we could blow through this i just i don't know i thought this is interesting to take a look
at member member the dgen dab from 2021 the these names these names have this is you know what
you know what this is this is that j p morgan report that we love titled the agony and the
ecstasy of stock picking i never forgot the stat it was seared into my brain why stockpicking is so hard
40% of all companies in the russell 3 000 had a catastrophic decline from which they never
recovered four out of 10 and they define that as a 70% decline from which no material rebound has ever occurred
And that's exactly what this chart is showing, show up to 2021.
So we're looking at GameStop AMC, Moderna, Teledoc, DocuSign, Zoom, Peloton Shop,
Roku, and Block formerly known as or Squintrador is to be.
So look at these names.
These names, this is exactly what that report is highlighting.
Dude, imagine somebody like Rip Van Winkle, this portfolio in 21 and just like stop logging in and forgot it.
And you check back and it's like, wait, I held these stocks for six years.
I'm down 80%.
Correct.
So the 2026 version of the our D-Gen Dow, which we spoke about, next chart, please.
We first spoke about this in December 2020.
I still love that we created this.
We haven't done a lot with it, but are any of these stocks delisted since we created this
D-gen-D-Gend Dow?
I don't know.
All right.
For the listener, what are some of the tickers in here, Michael?
Archer.
What are these companies?
Apple, well, that one, Coinbase, Carvana.
What's, oh, DJT, Draf King.
This real stocks in here, Roblox, Palantir, Invidia.
These are just stocks that the DGens, it's not that the stocks necessarily are DGEN stocks, like the companies.
Most of them are.
This is what the DGens like to trade.
And there's been, yeah, there's been new ones since.
There's been new ones since then.
Rigotoni is down.
69% I mean what a disaster so all right let's let's keep all right let's say something
uplifting Spotify nice uh I don't even know if it held throughout the day but the initial
reaction to Spotify's earnings was very positive and I sort of I look at Netflix which I have a tiny
amount in still um after having sold it I sort of think like one one day Netflix is going to do this
on a quarterly it still can't bounce it's still give me the Spotify chart one more time guys
Like, look, this is a stock that's been basically in free fall for the last six months.
It peaked last June, end of last June.
It was 800.
It hit 400.
So it bounced today to 476.
Nobody's throwing confetti.
What do you think the story is here?
Like, do you think that it's like a YouTube story?
Like, why is, why is Spotify getting published?
Because the business is on fire.
Yeah.
But YouTube is, it's a.
three-way fight now for podcast talent
and Netflix is spending money
and pulling shows off of YouTube.
They are showing some of the shows
that Netflix has brought on continue to show video
on Spotify, but it's just like it's a fight now.
It used to, so podcasts were an audio medium.
It was basically, yet Apple and Spotify
and then a bunch of also rants that have now disappeared.
But all the podcasts are doing video now.
And as a result, it's not just Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
It's a much deeper field of, and now shows are getting bought and almost like cable networks.
You know, like if you think about Netflix as like building sort of an HBO of very high, very highly rated shows and just pulling them out of circulation one by one.
And we've already seen Spotify go through these phases where they've spent a ton of money on content and on shows.
And we're not even sure that was even good for them.
Yeah.
But the business, you're not seeing it in the numbers.
Like the business is humming.
The business is fine.
I just think, I think Wall Street understands that in the end, people only have two ears and two eyes.
And they really can only pay attention to one maximum two.
things at once. So they might have Netflix on screen and in their hands is Twitter. Or they might
have a football game on Amazon Prime, you know, on the TV, and then on the phone in their hand
is their email. But like people can't have three things going at once. And you just reach a point
where there are too many apps, too many shows, too many options, too much user-generated
content, too many social networks. And it's just like nothing can break through anymore.
You're absolutely right.
You splintered this into micro audiences.
You're absolutely right.
And also, what would you say?
What will you say if Spotify ever makes a new 52 week eye?
Oh, like, what are the chances of that?
No, I'm just saying like the story that you're narrating today is accurate.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm not saying it's permanent.
But like the stock could start working again.
I don't know what would cause it to.
Spotify is one of the last things that I,
could personally cancel.
It is so important in my life
and I spend so much time
listening to podcasts and music
two of my favorite things in the world.
Spotify is like one of the final things
that I would cancel.
And I think a lot of people are like me.
And I think the stock does not get enough credit for that.
Let me give you some of the superlatives
from the quarter.
Largest ever wrapped campaign,
over 300 million users engaged
and they did a ton of stuff.
like wrapped like celebrating what you listen to this year around Christmas.
Q425 revenue grew 13% year over year,
premium revenue was 14% growth.
Advertising revenue was up 4%.
People don't even think about this as an advertising business.
Gross margin expanded to 33.1% up 83 basis points year over year.
Full year 25 revenue up 13% gross profit up 20.
operating income up 50.
And then the guidance, they just gave us Q1 guidance, 759 million MAUs, which would be up
8 million sequentially and 293 million premium subs.
How many companies on earth have 293 million people paying them for anything?
Probably 10 or less companies.
Daniel said-
This is an incredibly important platform.
So this was Daniel X's last conference call as a CEO.
he said they've got three quarters of a billion listeners throw this charlie i had claude make this
like they're they're just they're so dominant and they're getting no credit for it um now
nobody can buy this thing it's a hundred billion dollar market cap it's a hundred billion
dollar market cap it's uh it's a 60 times earnings it would not be accreative to any buyer
no one's going to do it and it's european which means you have to jump through all
their circus, you know, you have to jump through the whole three-ring circus with the EU and
Denmark or wherever this thing is for Sweden.
It's like it's an impossible acquisition, but it's interesting to watch people fight over
Warner Brothers. And now you got this thing out there with 300 million paying premium subs.
But it's no one can buy it. Maybe that's part of the bull case.
It's a monster business. They were they were asked about, about AI.
of course and Claude the new co-CEo-CEo said an engineer at Spotify and their morning commute
from Slack on their cell phone can tell Claude to fix a bug or add a new feature to the iOS app.
Once Claude finishes the work, the engineer then gets a new version of the app, push to them
on Slack on their phone so that they can merge it to production all before they even arrive
at the office.
They're calling that honk, whatever.
Some of the stuff that we're going to see is so freaking cool.
We get to work 24 hours a day now.
It's amazing.
Amazing.
It's amazing.
All right, last topic before we get to make the case in mystery chart.
We have to talk about the travel stocks today.
And yes, I get the yesterday and today.
Give me Marriott.
So I've made the case for this on the show.
Congrats to people that listen to me.
This is one of the ones you don't have to curse me out about because it actually worked.
This is what the consumer is doing.
And don't tell me that this is all.
top 10% people this is marriott okay it's not all j w there's some courtyard marriots in there
and god knows what else and uh they have nothing to negative to say on the consumer or if they say
it's k shaped well more people are in the the right part of the k than the wrong part of the k um can i
show you hilton too before yes same thing not i mean we so i pitch this on this is the best stock in the
market a couple weeks ago. We did this on TV. So this is like this is what the consumer is doing.
And again, Hilton is not the Amman. Like, like Hilton is everybody. All right. So earlier we said
it's a market about the top, right? You lost the leadership needs. Can the market work without
the mag seven? We didn't mention something so important. The economy is fine. These names that you're
talking about, the consumer that powers the economy. Hilton's not an all time high because the
consumer is not spending money.
You have a Fed chairman that is going to probably come in here in lower rates.
You've got a comedy of monetary policy.
Inflation is fine.
Like the macro backdrop, you've got these companies spending gigabillions of dollars.
It's hard to see the market just falling out of bed.
Now, what's so great about Hilton and Marriott is that they, it's like Costco without all
the inventory in the stores.
They don't own any of these properties.
I think Marriott owns one hotel and Hilton owns 10.
or something like that.
People think they own the buildings.
Nope.
They are a point.
No, it's a loyalty points business.
That's it.
It's the whole thing.
They're marketing and loyalty points.
And then they get paid to manage the hotels.
So it's sort of halo because a Marriott Hotel is a physical thing.
But it's sort of not Halo because they're really a marketing business.
And the loyalty points makes the whole thing.
It's the whole reason why a hotel developer approaches Marriott and says, we want to license
Marriott.
We want to have you manage the hotel so that you have this guaranteed influx of people staying
there because they're part of Bonvoy and all these points programs.
And Hilton is the same way.
And people think that these are real estate or these are like building owners.
And it's the opposite.
It's the brands and driving people to the property.
This one I'm not sure about.
Give me Expedia.
They're going to report this week.
This chart, you'll notice, does not look at all, like Marriott and Hilton, just has been absolutely hammered year-to-date.
I think this is part of the AI disruption story.
Here are the expectations.
Revenue up 7.1% year-over-year and earnings up 41% year-over-year.
if they deliver that and the stock doesn't react to the upside i don't know what to do um but i think
people are worried about expedia being easily disintermediated by a chat bot that finds you hotel rooms
or a chat bot that books your flights for you like i so that's that this is a really interesting
travel name because they are not benefiting in the same way the the the halo hotel this is
expedia is very much not halo i would just say that so they're going to report i think on thursday
Okay. All right, I'm going to make the case for the only stock that I own individually in my personal account.
It's a stock that I've made the case for it before. Last time it was April 2025. So it's not like I did this yesterday. And I'm making the case for IMAX again because A, it's working. B, I don't think you missed it. The stock is not extended. And it's a $2 billion market cap. It's still a modest success company.
IMAX is Halo. So I got an email today from Jennifer Horsley. Jennifer is,
the senior VP of investor relations, and she won't respond to my emails.
I'm trying to get Rich Galf on the CEO on the show.
So if anybody knows Jennifer, please send her to this video.
All right, let's get right to it.
You didn't ask me to do this?
Please.
All right.
So this is what the email said.
Dear IMAX investment community, IMAX momentum has carried into 2026 with strong January
box office growth.
The IMAX January box office of $80 million grew 16% year over year.
propelled by Avatar Fire and Ash, where IMAX has delivered 13% of the total box office cumulative to date
versus 11.3% on Avatar Way of Water.
As many have seen, recent Oscar nomination Spotlight and My,
IMAX's strong partnership with leading filmmakers.
Of note, five of the 10 best picture titles played in IMAX,
including three standout releases where IMAX delivered 20% or higher
of the opening weekend domestic box office including sinners one battle after another and f1 the movie
let me show you some charts look at this brand awareness i don't know how this is quantified
but they've got it they're comparing themselves with the spn and marvel and hbomax and spotify
the brand is super strong and you think about who the audience is this is a bit of a faceblower josh
look at this diverse audience base it's not just for fanboys everybody half
About half male, half female.
If you look at the age, dude, young people are going to the theater.
Look at this 25 to 34 demographic.
Chart off, please.
I don't know why this angel just walked into my office, but look at this cutie.
Oh, my God.
Are you going to take him to an IMAX movie this year?
We're seeing Goat on Friday night.
Okay.
Let's keep it moving.
2025.
So this is from Investor Day.
And this was in December.
Was on track for the best year in IMAX history.
33% iMacs box office up yeah the system i mean it's all it's all working and then 2026 it's the same
thing leveling up for another record year their guidance is to all-time highs on the system installations
the box office and the stock is working and it has been working and it's a volatile stock right it's a small
it's a small market cap but there's a special story here that's happening and i think this is
going to continue to work well they're going to have possibly
the biggest one of the biggest events in the decade for cinema this summer when the odyssey
debuts is it a summer movie or christmas movie i don't even know uh it's it's i believe it's summer
when they announced ticket sales a year in advance which has never had done before
everybody was like what are you doing and guess what they sold that in two was it two hour
i can't even i tried to get tickets you can't get them and some of these imax screens are nothing special
Like they're larger than the traditional format, but they were like retrofitted into a traditional multiplex.
The real IMAX, the 70 millimeter, there's only like six of them on the continent of North America.
Like there, I happen to have gone to one for one battle after another in Fort Lauderdale.
They have one in a science museum, the 70 millimeter IMAX.
And, but they're rare.
There's one in Manhattan at Lincoln Square.
It's not like a hundred of them.
Can you imagine if there was?
And also, so China's going nuts.
They're doing a ton of business there.
And Dune 3 is going to be another mega, mega, mega, mega IMAX hit.
And that's this summer too, right?
They're doing 20% of the total global box office in IMAX is for a lot of these names.
It's an event that people are coming out.
Yeah.
No, it's a great stock.
And I think if they weren't based in Toronto, if they were like, if this was like a New York or an L.A.
based company and had more visibility with U.S. investors, I think the stock would be materially
higher. I don't know what you do about that. That's just, that's just the reality.
I'm waiting. Yeah. All right. Great pick. I love it. Let me do the mystery chart and then we'll
get out of here. This is an industry group within the financial sector. So it's a sub-industry
group. It's an, it's an, it's, I got you. How do I put this? It's not an industry group. It's a
sub-industry group. It's like even smaller carve-out of an industry group. But there's a lot of
stocks in it. There's at least 25 stocks in it. Insurance? No. Capital markets? I'll give you two more.
What is it? What's the next guess? Capital markets? Close, but no cigar. Okay. I don't know.
What is it? Okay. It is within capital markets, but I told you it's a sub-industry group.
It's the broker-dealer index ETF.
IAI says the U.S. broker-dealers and securities exchanges, ETF.
And this is, so Robin Hood's in here.
This is about to get really interesting, I think,
because now the question becomes, all right,
we know a lot of these companies in here are reliant on crypto these days.
We know a lot of these companies in here are reliant on not getting disrupted by AI.
but now we see like what happened with Schwab and Raymond James today.
And like we like starting to get the first inklings that maybe the brokerage business can be disrupted by new AI tools and possibly new AI driven platforms for trading.
And then there's the whole prediction market angle.
Some of the companies in this index, I'm going to show you them in a second benefit from increased volatility.
So give me that chart because this is not just broker dealers.
this brokerage deals and exchanges.
So Goldman Sachs number one waiting.
It's 18%.
Morgan Stanley's 14.
Put those aside.
Schwab is three.
CME Intercontinental.
Moody's is in here.
MSCI, S&P Global.
So these have all been annihilated.
NASDAQ, interactive brokers, LPL financial,
Raymond James, CBOE, Robin Hood, Coinbase.
Would you agree with me?
like there are some this fireworks in this group uh or potential fireworks in this group coming up
in the in the next couple of months this is really interesting because we had a chart i can't
remember who made this chart um it might have been s m actually ironically enough that showed like
dispersion with insectors and basically there's no point in picking individual energy names because
they all move the same like they're all the same trade not this that basket the dispersion is
a shotgun. There are serious winners and losers. It's a really interesting basket. Yeah,
we're going to keep an eye on that. Maybe we'll pick that up and do a segment on it in a couple
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