The Confessionals - 11: Behind Closed Eyes

Episode Date: April 1, 2017

On Episode 11, Cody describes his first experience with the paranormal while in high school. He then recounts other strange things that have happened to him since that time, including a surpr...ising reaction while investigating a haunted area, and seeing angels and demons. Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals

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Starting point is 00:01:33 They're staying in the shadows. It's called probing. Make sure things are all clea. Careful for the rest of the right. You guys hear that? Welcome to the show, everybody. I am your host, Tony Merkel, and I am really glad that you're here. And I'm really glad to be here.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Most of you know I was on vacation this week, and I had so much fun. I was working on the show every day, all day, and it was great. Most nights, I wasn't going to bed until about 3 or 3.30 in the morning. And I just couldn't wait to open my eyes the next day and get cracking on the show again. One of the ideas that I came up with was the possibility of doing a live after show on YouTube. I thought it would be kind of fun, and I saw another podcast do it this week, and we talked about it. And I thought, you know what, why not try it with us? So tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern Time, we're going to do a live after party on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:03:10 You can find the links to that on the Facebook page, the Twitter page, and also the web page. The web page is the confessionalspodcast.com. And when you go there, when you open up to the main page, hit enter. And once that goes through, you'll see the video stream right there. And you'll also see a link underneath the video stream where you can actually click that. It will take you to YouTube where the video is and the live chat. After we're done doing the question and answer hangout, I'm actually, going to broadcast today's interview live in video format right there on YouTube. I really encourage
Starting point is 00:03:47 you guys to kind of tune in, come over, hang out with us, ask some questions, and discuss the show. I think it would be a lot of fun. So talking about the show, we have Cody coming on tonight to share some of his paranormal and supernatural experiences he's had throughout his entire life. I really think you guys are going to enjoy the show, so let's get to it. Okay, so tonight we have a great guest with us, and he's going to be talking to us about some experiences that he has had throughout his entire life pretty much, ranging from ghosts to angels to whatever. So, Cody, how are you, man? I'm great, Tony.
Starting point is 00:04:22 How are you doing today? I'm doing good, man. I'm really excited to hear what you have to say. We talked a little bit in email and stuff, but I definitely didn't get all the details yet. And I just wanted to do this in the first take kind of thing because I knew it was going to be a good show. So I figured just get you on and talk about things. So what happened for your first instance with your girlfriend, I believe? All right. So back in high school, I was dating this girl. At the time, I had nothing to do with religion. It just wasn't for me. I had watched friends pass away at a young age who were involved with church. And that actually furthered me from believing in anything. And, you know, like a typical teenager, I was just doing what I could to make my girlfriend at the time happy. And so she invited me to go to youth group.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And I said, oh, okay, I guess I'll go. So we went to youth group and, you know, it was okay. I met a lot of nice people. And so the next week came up and she wanted me to go again. And of course, I went. And then she noticed I started kind of taking an interest and actually invited me to church that next Sunday. So, of course, I gave in and I went. And I really enjoyed it and started learning a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And then as the weeks kind of progressed in our dating and going to church and getting more involved, the church that I was going to actually goes to a youth convention every year around Easter time. And so when they started talking about it, everybody from the youth group was like, oh, man, you've never been. You've got to go. It's great. And I was like, all right, man, awesome. You know, let's go for it. So the next coming weeks going to youth convention, started having some strange experiences as I started, you know, really digging into Christianity and, you know, sort of about to give my life to Christ without me knowing. You know, it was a couple nights in a row where I would finally go to, my room was in the base.
Starting point is 00:06:34 basement. My dad built a room for me down the basement. So I had one of those old wooden slide doors, like an accordion door, and then walked in, lay down, go to bed. And I just remember I was starting to finally doze off. I would always turn my TV off and, you know, roll towards the wall. And so I'm trying to fall asleep. And as I'm falling asleep, and I close my eyes, and I could remember seeing my room as the light was on in my room. And then next thing you know, as I started looking, I seen this black cloaked figure standing out my doorway. And it freaked me out, you know, it was weird.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I thought maybe it was just a dream. And so I woke up, kind of kept my eyes towards the wall, and grab my remote to turn my TV back on in fear that when I open my eyes, this thing was actually going to be standing in my room staring at me. But that wasn't the case. The next day came home from work, went down back in my bedroom, about to go to bed, and closed my eyes, and within minutes, I could see my whole room. You know, I could definitely make out that I had an entertainment center in the front of my room.
Starting point is 00:08:01 and to the right of the room was the door to get in. Except for this time, the figure, the cloaked figure, you couldn't see a face or anything. It was standing a few more feet off from the door. And it was projecting this feeling of fear. And like I was supposed to fear it. And, you know, at that point, you know, I did the same thing I did the other night.
Starting point is 00:08:30 I had grabbed my remote, turned the TV back on, except for this time I had called my girlfriend at the time, and I was like, look, I don't know what's going on. I don't know if it's me, but this is really freaking me out. And I explained to her everything I was seeing, and she's like, okay, well, you know, just try praying and going back to bed. But at this point of my life, I still wasn't to that point where I was, like, comfortable with praying yet. I was like, okay, okay, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:08:56 So then it didn't happen for a couple nights. And then it was about to come into the weekend. And it was the weekend prior to the actual youth convention. And that's when things started even get a little crazier. I had come home from working. I worked a lot in high school besides just going to school. And I came home, went to bed. because I knew how to work this weekend, and a few minutes into closing my eyes, it all started
Starting point is 00:09:34 happening again. I could see my room, and the figure that I had been seeing the last couple nights was literally in front of my bed now. I had never felt so scared and more fearful in my entire life. I mean, I felt like I was going to be harmed. I felt like I was going to be harmed. I felt Like whatever it was purposefully wanted to project its fear and like, I don't know, you can say hatred and anger. And it just wanted me to be frightened. It wanted me to be scared. It wanted me to feel like it was going to hurt me, which I just didn't understand. So at this point, you know, I'm like, I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:10:19 You know, I don't know if it's something in my house that has me worried and freaked out or what. So again, I hurry up and I called my girlfriend at the time and I was like, look, I'm so scared right now. I'm so scared. I don't know what to do. I don't know if it's my imagination, but I'm like at this time, I'm trembling. You know, I'm really freaked out thinking something in my house or in my room is waiting for me to close my eyes again so it can hurt me. and so she had been begin to tell me that when she started hearing about this she was praying for me because she was worried that it may be something demonic trying or like just some kind of bad spirit trying to keep me from giving my life to Christ which I didn't know I was going to you know end up doing so that weekend um got up did my chores like my dad made me do on the weekend and my dad made me do on the weekend and my dad and my brother went out somewhere
Starting point is 00:11:20 and I was going to take a nap before I went to work so I had laid down in my bed just got myself comfortable and as I started dozing off it was really weird that you know I heard this loud rush of wind and it was almost like a jet engine had just cut on honestly and it was so loud
Starting point is 00:11:42 but I don't know if it was like so loud like the whole sound was in the whole house or was it literally just taking over my head that it was so loud? And I remember feeling my whole body gets sucked to the bed and not being able to yell out to anybody, not being able to move. I couldn't do anything. And I, you know, I could feel I was extremely scared. But all I could do in my head was yell out to God, yell out to Jesus and pray for help and beg for help. And as I started doing that, you know, I could feel my fingers slowly starting to release from the bed and, you know, and the rest of my body. And I finally jumped up and was like, what in the world?
Starting point is 00:12:29 What is going? I was like, I was dumbfounded because I had literally never had any kind of experience like this. And of course, still, I'm just trying to attribute this to maybe, you know, maybe I'm exhausted. Maybe I'm getting into about to have a bad dream or something. But, you know, I couldn't say that that was what was really happening. Because then I laid back down and I was like, all right, just take a deep breath, calm down. You really need to take this nap because you're about to work all day long. So start going back to bed and it happens, but it's even louder and more intense and I can't
Starting point is 00:13:07 move. And this time I could barely even call out to God and call out to Jesus to help. But, you know, I could only do it in my head because I literally, felt like I couldn't breathe. I felt like I wasn't able to call out to anybody for help. And then slowly again, you know, I could feel like starting from the top of my head, down to my toes. I could finally feel relief and feel like something
Starting point is 00:13:32 was leaving me or leaving the area of what was keeping me down. So I freaked out and I called my girlfriend and I was like, look, this is what just happened. I can't do this anymore. I was like, I don't know if this is some kind of sign or whatnot. And then she looked at me and was like, well, I know this might sound crazy, but do you have any pentagrams or anything in your room? I was like, no.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I was like, you know, it's funny because even though I didn't at the time really truly believe in God or anything, I wasn't dumb enough to mess with like satanic, demonic type of things because I knew I would be freaked out. Sure. Because that's real, you know? And she was like, look around your room. You know, just double check. growing up I was really involved I love music
Starting point is 00:14:19 so I always had like posters and old records and stuff on the wall and I look above my head and of course right above my head is a slip-knock poster which is a heavy metal band and standing in each point of the pentagram were the members of slip-knot
Starting point is 00:14:37 and there was like blood on the pentagram and candles and I was like what and I was like no no this stuff she's like take it down off the wall now. I took it down off the wall. I ripped it up and threw it in the trash. And then her and I, we had talked, we prayed about things. And I was actually able to lay down and go to bed. The next weekend, we went to youth convention. And that's where I was finally, I finally gave in, gave my life to Christ and, you know, and started to believe. And that's why I felt that whatever was happening to me in my home was trying to get me to not believe and try not to give my life.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Because after that day, after I ripped that poster up, I never had any any crazy issues like that ever again. I mean, it was just, it was so surreal, you know, it was like something from a movie. Yeah. Wow, that's, that's pretty incredible, man. So, like, when, when this thing first happened, it was, it was happening when you were closing your eyes. Is that right? Like, you were, like, with your eyes closed, you were seeing your, you were, like, with your eyes closed, you were seeing your room. Yeah. Was that like a mental image that you had of your room or was something projecting an image in your head? I don't know if it, you know, it almost seemed like he was projecting the image of the room into my head. I should say it because I don't know, you know, what it was.
Starting point is 00:16:01 It was like it was projecting the image in my head to make sure I seen it. Okay. Wow. That's, and so the first time it happened, I know the second time that happened, you said you felt incredibly scared. The first time it happened, you didn't really feel that scared or what? No, you know, I just didn't know what to think of it. I just kind of, you know, thought maybe since I was starting to slip into a sleep, that maybe was just, you know, kind of in my head. But after it had started to reoccur, I knew that it had to be something more than just trying to fall asleep and something weird happening in my dreams or something. Yeah. What the figure looked like?
Starting point is 00:16:38 I mean, like you said, it was a complete black figure. Was it transparent? Was the edges of it like a sharp or was it more like faded? into the black room. So it's weird because the room itself was lit up like I had all my lights on on my room. But the figure that was standing there, it was a really dark, nearly black robe. Kind of like, you can describe it almost like a monk's robe in a way, how long it is,
Starting point is 00:17:07 and how it kind of covers the head and the face. But it was just black. I couldn't see anything inside the hood. black. And that's all it was. I couldn't even see hands or anything. You know, so all I just saw was this cloaked figure standing there at my doorway. Yeah. That's that, well, I mean, I think the first time that happened to me, I would be freaked out, man. Yeah, like I said, at that, at that point in my life, I just, I always tried to, you know, push it off as something else. Maybe it could be this, maybe it could be that, you know. I wasn't necessarily like, oh my gosh, there's a
Starting point is 00:17:43 demon in my room right now, you know, until something, you know, until it kept happening when I was like, this is not just by chance that this keeps happening. Did you ever feel like a physical illness or anything like that when it comes to this stuff or was it all just in your head? Um, I did so like after after the last night that had happened, I did almost feel like sick to the stomach. You know, I know there's stories of when there is demonic presence that, you know, sometimes you smell like rotting flesh or things like that, which, you know, I didn't have that experience, but I know they do say that, you know, you can, you can feel like you're ill or something like that, which, you know, I don't know if it was necessarily from what could have been there
Starting point is 00:18:34 or if it was just, you know, that I was that scared, you know, especially at the last night feeling like I was going to be harmed like something seriously bad was about to happen because when you said about closing your eyes and like I think you described it as like you sounded like a rushing wind yes did did you feel anything that came along with that or was just like more like a sound it was just a really loud sound like the best way I can describe it was that it sounded like a jet engine it was just such a loud gushed of wind and then that's when like immediately like I felt myself sucked to the bed like I just couldn't move wow so like was it like a paralyzed feeling or was it felt was it a feeling like
Starting point is 00:19:22 something like holding you there um it was more along the lines of a paralyzed feeling like I just really could not do anything but there was a weight over my entire body wow yeah because I mean I've heard of stories where people, for instance, one story, a guy that I was talking to years ago before I was even thinking about doing a show like this, he shared with me that he had an experience where he heard something walking in the room. It walked up along the bed next to his wife and walked around the bed to his side and was pushing down on his chest so hard that he couldn't even breathe. And so he, like that was an instance where he actually felt something pushing down on him, not as much as he just wanted to move, but it couldn't move.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And that's why I wasn't sure how it felt for you. Yeah. Yeah, it just felt like a whole weight over my body. It was like a blanketed weight of error. You know, it's hard to explain. You really have to, I know it sounds funny, but be in that presence or in that moment to really just kind of feel how it was. Yeah, I can understand that.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I was going to ask you if you ever dabbled in anything prior to this, but it sounds like you didn't, because your girlfriend asked you that question as well, pretty much, with the Pentagon. But I find it interesting that when you took down that poster, things kind of ceased. The band Slipknot, I don't know much about them. When I hear some of their songs, I really actually enjoy them.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I like the sound that they have. But I never really looked into them. I never really looked at their covers or posters and anything. I didn't realize that they had pentegrams and like that on their covers. Yeah, and, you know, that's, you know, I love music. I love all sorts of music. And when I had first discovered them, they were just really heavy and I really enjoyed listen to them.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So when I bought their poster and put it up my, above my room, I didn't even think that they're, you know, to look for that. I was just like, oh, cool, here they all are. Above my head it goes. Yeah. Did you even know what a pentagram? was at that time? Like when you bought that poster? Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:21:36 did, but like I said, I wasn't necessarily looking for it because I just saw, oh man, I need another poster to add to my collection. You know, and that's all I could think about until I looked up after she had mentioned that and it was like, oh my gosh, I'd never even realized this.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Like, and they were all standing right in the points too, which is you know, it was just crazy. So, I mean, are you take the poster down, did you continue to listen to their music? Actually, truthfully, no, I haven't. I haven't listened to them since. And I don't know if that's just
Starting point is 00:22:12 coincidental or if that was just, you know, that's what I was supposed to do, kind of rid my life of, you know, non-secular music, I guess you could say, but, you know, I still listen to non-secular music now, just, you know, nothing that is non-Christ related. Right. Well, I just wonder,
Starting point is 00:22:36 because, all right, so you take the poster down and now you're saying you haven't listened to them since. I wonder if the poster held the key to this whole thing, or was it the band? You know, because clearly the band is intentionally doing things on the satanic level when it comes to pentagrams and things like that. So I wonder if it was the poster or you listening to the music or both? I don't know. Because I know there's another band out there. And again, I love, I love music too.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And I don't listen to a whole lot of music anymore because I'm on the podcast thing. Like, I listen to tons of podcasts. But especially when I was younger, I used to love listening to music. And the band Incubis, awesome band. Yeah, absolutely. A lot of people don't know what an Incubis is. Now, a lot of my audience might know what an Incubis is. but an Incubus is a demon that comes and has sex with you in the middle of night. It essentially rapes you. And that's the name of a band. And when I was in college, I was having some, some issues going on in my life as far as demonic realm goes. And I had a roommate that listened to Incubis a lot. And I asked him, I said, hey, man, I can't have that in my room right
Starting point is 00:23:50 now. Like, I just can't. And I don't remember his reaction or anything like that. I just remember bringing it up in conversation because, like, I had some serious stuff going. on and I couldn't I just couldn't have that band in my room right now because I knew what an incubus was you know I was everybody knows I went to college to be a pastor I was studying in seminary and like I knew I knew I knew what the incubus was and I mean the band music music is great but man couldn't they pick a different title you know yeah seriously no I would think I would agree with you on that with the maybe it was through the band because you know there's a lot that people can do now subliminally that you know you're listening to but you don't
Starting point is 00:24:29 realize what's really in the background what you're listening to that could be altering you know your life so definitely i think that's a possibility and i'm not saying that slip knot or incubus or any of these other bands do this but i don't think people quite realize that there are people out there that do mean harm on people and they do things like casting spells on people and things like that um just like a year, year and a half ago, I had a situation where I now believe that somebody had tried casting a spell on me. He was into satanic worshiping and he was, he didn't come out and say it to me, but essentially I believe he was a warlock and I believe that he tried casting a spell on me. And though I don't think that it actually, I don't know how to say
Starting point is 00:25:22 that it took, but all I can tell you is that whatever happened to me that day, it kicked my butt on a spiritual level. It kicked my butt. And it wasn't until a couple months ago that I actually identified at what point in time I had this like spiritual battle of where I got beat up. Like I really got beat up big time. And I never could understand what was going on until a few months ago. I kind of realized, ah, it all started that day. And so yeah, I mean, people people have ill will and I just I always wonder like when it comes to like the band Incubis like they wouldn't they wouldn't name that band
Starting point is 00:26:03 that if they didn't know what an incubus was surely they know what an incubus is surely Slipknot knows what a pentagram is and they knew what they were doing when they made that poster you know and so Absolutely Yeah it's very interesting though Very interesting
Starting point is 00:26:18 So what else did you have to share? So a little after college, when I came back home, I was living at a friend's house, and we had really started getting into like the spiritual world. And, you know, all the, this is kind of around the time where all these like ghost hunting shows were getting big. And we were like, no way, we wouldn't do that. Like, why not? So it was a few of us. And we started our own little group. We were called the Leastport Paranormal Investigators. And we had, had just like a little, um, a little Sony camera and like a real, real old like 80s style voice
Starting point is 00:27:01 recorder. Love it. Love it. Yeah. So we, you know, we were reaching out to people on Facebook. We made a, you know, a Facebook page for it and stuff like that. You could still find it to this day. I have it on my own that I look at occasionally just to laugh at.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Nice. But, you know, we started getting in touch with friends and like, hey, can we come ghost hunt at your house? and they were just like, oh, sure, why not? Go for it, you know? Well, we grab the, there's a book called the Ghost Stories of Berks County. And it features us one about five locks, which is in Hamburg. Actually, it's right down the road from where you grew up.
Starting point is 00:27:43 If I remember correctly, the story kind of goes that there was a girl and a guy who would meet up late at these locks. It was like a canal and because they weren't allowed to see each other so they would sneak out of their house late at night. And I guess the one night, the boy decided to go swimming or he fell in and, you know, I think that's what it was
Starting point is 00:28:07 because he wasn't actually able to swim. So she went to going after him because he was starting to drown, but she drowned in the process of trying to help him. So there's, Tons of stories of people having experiences and how you can go there and, you know, you can hear her crying at night in the woods and stuff like that. So we went out there at midnight because, you know, everybody knows ghosts come out at midnight. So we went out there and we're walking around.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And they tell you not to egg things on. But we had a friend with us who, even though he wanted to be a part of the group, he just, He didn't believe in ghost at all. So he's like yelling and cursing and carrying on and like trying to summon the demons. But, you know, because he wanted some real experience. And a part of the reason I went with is because I told him, you know, I felt I was pretty sensitive to the spiritual world with, you know, being able to take on emotions and things like that.
Starting point is 00:29:14 So, you know, we start hearing some rustling in the woods. And, you know, the area just kind of got dense. It just kind of felt heavy. And then, you know, I got this sense of sadness and depression and just like total and utter disbelief. Like something had just really bad happened in front of me. So I start telling the guys, I'm like, you know, I think we're kind of in the area where this must have happened because I'm feeling really sad right now, guys. like I kind of want to cry. And they, you know, they took it as, oh, you're just being a baby.
Starting point is 00:29:56 You were trying to leave. I was like, no, like, I really have this deep saddening in my heart right now. So they started talking to me and stuff. And next thing you know, I just kept saying over and over again, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And next thing, you know, tears started streaming down my face. And they're all kind of like, dude, are you crying right now?
Starting point is 00:30:18 And all I can say was I'm sorry. I tried. I'm sorry. But that's all I can feel in my heart, just that heavy sense of, you know, trying to apologize and, you know, trying to make something right that I couldn't make right. And so the one guy who really just didn't believe in anything, he's like, all right, if you're really here and you're making this happen to him, go away. Don't come back and leave him be.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And it was just like he said that, just like, it was just like that that the tears had dried up. I had looked like I'd never been crying. And the sadness was gone. And, you know, he still, he still just didn't believe it at that time. He's like, there's no way. He's like, I don't know how you did it, but there's no way. I was like, dude, like, I, what more do you want me to say?
Starting point is 00:31:08 I can't just make this happen, you know? And then he was like, all right, fine. he's like if you're truly here and you're trying to project your feelings onto him go ahead his body's yours do what you want and i was like dude whoa hold on man i mean that's that's that's really uh that's really pushing it there because anything could happen when you open up your body to anything that could be in the area you know there could have been something really bad out there and um so sure enough as it happened i started sobbing and i start the the sadness came back and And, you know, I just, at that point, I was kind of, like, feeling like I need to leave because I was just so upset and I didn't know what else to do.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And then he was kind of taken back at that point. And so are the rest of the guys. And they're like, yeah, why don't we go? I don't we go now. And I was like, yeah, it's probably for the best, you know. And then we had gone back out there another night. And I don't know if it's something related. I just figured I would share this because we had gone back out to see if, you know, there was anything.
Starting point is 00:32:11 else we can find. And it was only a few minutes after getting out of the car. I remember feeling like my blood was boiling and I got so hot and I just remember being so angry. And I was, and I just, you know, I was able to be in my right mind, but I was telling the guys, look, we need to go, whatever is here, what does not want us here. And after they kept saying no, more, more, like, I mean, I felt like something was going to rip through my skin. That's how angry I was. And I was like, we need to go now before I don't know but I feel like I'm literally about to explode like and flip out and just freak out and I was like I can't explain it but like I felt it come from my toes and go up and it was just a really anger hatred um just yeah that was it was a
Starting point is 00:33:04 crazy feeling too you know so I was like all right let's go so then we did we did actually leave and we hadn't gone back to that spot since because we just didn't know what we were getting into or what we were dealing with. Yeah, that's, yeah, listen, I'd be like, yo, pal, you're not coming out again. My body is yours. What are you doing to me, man? So, all right, when you had these feelings coming on, was it like a sudden thing? Or did you feel like, all right, so you said the second time you felt almost starting your toes and that, that anger.
Starting point is 00:33:39 the first time, was it just like a pow out of nowhere, these emotions hit you hardcore, or was it like a gradual buildup? So unlike the second time, the first time was more of like a pow, it just kind of happened. But when it happened, it hit right in the heart and then kind of spread through to the rest of my body. So that was a really sudden, like, feeling almost like she wanted. wanted to let everybody know that she was here and she was grieving over this loss.
Starting point is 00:34:16 But the second one, that was more of a gradual buildup. You know, I literally felt like, I guess the best way to put it was like when you take an old-fashioned tea kettle and put it on the stove, you know. It just starts getting hotter and hotter, and next thing you know, it starts whistling because it's boiling. and that's basically the same sensation that I got within my body. Wow, that's... I can't imagine that. So let me ask you,
Starting point is 00:34:45 has this kind of stuff happened to you quite often? Like, have you had other experiences where you've felt something just kind of emotionally charging you? Yeah, I mean, I've been in different places and, you know, I could feel if, you know, somebody or something that was present was either, you know, happy or sad or, you know, if it was relatively good or if it was something I shouldn't be around.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And it was weird because I, the reason I noticed is because I used to walk in crowds and feel like all different emotions from people, you know, walking through crowds. And that's where I'd be like, oh my gosh, you know, it was overwhelming. So, you know, certain areas I went into, you know, that's just kind of how it was. I just kind of felt whatever or, like, I don't know if you want to say aura or emotions or was there present is what I would, you know, I'd be able to feel. Yeah, that's crazy. Because, I mean, the thing is, like, so many people, they look at these topics, like,
Starting point is 00:35:57 okay, they look at it as, all right, so what I'm doing here, it's an entertaining show. and people look at this stuff as it's entertainment. It's not real. And people watch TV shows of this kind of stuff and they're entertained by it. But if you're not experiencing it, I have a feeling a lot of people believe that, oh yeah, it's real, but how real is real for them. You know what I mean? I'm not sure if people actually grasp the idea that this stuff really happens to people. And there's a whole other side of reality that most people live their day-to-day lives not ever thinking about or comprehending.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Do you feel like that too? Yeah, you know, and I think a part of that is because of these new shows, you know, people want to watch them for that wow factor like, oh my gosh, they're truly ghost hunting right now. This is really happening to them. Personally, I mean, there are some
Starting point is 00:36:49 where I think that are decent and I think they're capturing some honest things, but I mean, a lot of them I just kind of wish they wouldn't get so big because it's kind of giving people like a false reality. I think the best way to experience it is to just open yourself up and maybe even go somewhere where there's been some stories and just kind of adventure out and discover things for yourself. I mean, everybody can have their own personal experience. I mean, you might know, you might not know you have some gift and you might not know how to unlock it because you've never given that thought or openness
Starting point is 00:37:25 to actually trying to find out, you know, what it is. I mean, I personally believe that everybody does have some kind of gift. You know, it's just you have to try to open it up somehow. Yeah. And, you know, I think people, they go down different paths of doing that. And some of the paths they go down, they can be quite scary. Like, for me, you'll never catch me messing with a Ouija board. You'll never see me have one in my house or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I've heard too many stories of what happens when people play with these things. And the fact that they're sold in the toy section at your local Walmart is like, what the heck? I don't even get that. But, yeah, I mean, I think I tend to agree with you. I think people, I just feel like humanity in itself is underperforming its capabilities. Certainly. I think at one time in our past, us as human beings had capabilities that we no longer have. And I think sometimes people are able to, I don't know if tap into it is the right word,
Starting point is 00:38:36 but something happens with some people that they're able to do certain things, whether it's being sensitive to spirits or doing something incredibly extraordinary, like photographic memories. I mean, real photographic memories. not talking like, you know, remembering most details. I'm talking like, like, I saw this one video where this guy flew over a city and then he redrew it identical perfectly. And I'm talking like the windows, everything. And here's the fun thing about that is he was autistic, I believe. So, you know, I don't know how all that works and stuff, but, you know, there's a, there's a true beauty
Starting point is 00:39:19 in autism. And when you see things like that, it makes me smile because it just shows me that God has created them for a purpose as well. Yeah, definitely. And I think because there is that that more powerful part of the brain
Starting point is 00:39:37 that they're tapping into and that most people either A, never will experience or don't know how to do, I think they have that gift and that ability to be able to tap into that, you know, part of the brain that they say that you can't use. And I think that's very true. I've seen stories of people who, you know, were told, hey, we're going to a place tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:40:03 And then they go to sleep and they dream about, they wake up, and they will literally draw where they're going. And then next thing you know, they get in the car and that's where they arrive. They blindfolded them and said, look, oh, we're here. Like people that had the ability to tap into that part of the brain. and be able to see into, I guess, the future and be able to draw things down. And I think the brain's a powerful thing once you learn how to use it.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah, absolutely. Unfortunately, there's no real map on how to truly get to that point. I mean, we're underutilizing our brain so much. And I know people do these exercises to help sharpen their brain, but even if you're, operating at, you know, above other people, you're still not operating at its full potential, which is just fascinating to me. The human brain itself is so fascinating because of the fact that we don't use most our brain. Imagine if we could use most our brain. Yeah, absolutely. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:41:05 So you have another story here involving angels. What happened there? So this October, I believe it'll be five years since my mother-in-law had passed away. And I just remember, you know, she was in the hospital all week long. She had ovarian cancer. They originally told her it was all gone. And then six weeks later, they told her had come back. And but this time, it just came back so rapidly. By Thursday night, she was transferred to the hospice and then had passed away.
Starting point is 00:41:44 that Friday morning. Well, every night after work that week, I would drive out to, she was only my girlfriend at the time, but I would drive out to the hospital to be with my wife, just to be there to support her and to show her that I cared, you know, because that's a huge thing to go through when you first start dating somebody. You don't expect those kinds of things to happen. But I just remember we were sitting there.
Starting point is 00:42:14 probably like 10 o'clock at night. And I just kind of felt like there were like people walking through the door and like the room was just filling up. And it just felt so crowded in there. And then I had remembered I had closed my eyes for a little bit. And I just remember when I closed my eyes, I could see her laying there. And I just remember seeing all these angels had filled the room. and were by her bedside. And it was just such a powerful experience.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You know, I didn't tell her to that right away. I told them, you know, like a week later, because actually when she had passed away the next day, my wife said she did open her eyes for a little bit to look around the room after she had been unconscious for a while. She looked around the room and she said the last thing she did was look into the corner of the room and had this really big smile right.
Starting point is 00:43:14 before she had passed away. Wow. So your mother-in-law looked into the corner of the room and had a big smile. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. She was really heavily involved with the church all of her life. My father-in-law is actually a retired Methodist minister.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Wow, that's incredible. It was just, yeah. So did your wife ever feel anything in the room, or was it just kind of like a thing that you sensed and so no it was just something that i sense and saw and then you know kind of told her about a couple weeks later just because you know that that's a lot to uh you know to let somebody know that hey by the way i kind of feel like i have this gift and you know she's already going through enough and the last thing i wanted to do was make her feel like i was a creeper something yeah sure well how'd she take it she was her and her father were both you know blown away
Starting point is 00:44:17 by it. And, you know, to me, her looking into that corner and, you know, even when I had arrived several hours after her passing away, she still had that smile on her face. To me, that was Jesus extending his hand to her and welcoming her to her home. Wow. That's, that's just incredible. I love hearing stories like that. You know, you hear about these things and you always wonder, like, is it real? Is there another side to this life when we pay? pass and things like that. And so when you hear about somebody who, you know, right before they die, they smile or they say they see a light or even in your case where you saw angels in the room the day before she died, I mean, it kind of, for me at least, the way I look at it is it kind
Starting point is 00:45:06 confirms that there is something else going on after this life. And once you, once you create that premise in your mind that there is something else to this life other than, you, you know, us here in the present, then it opens the door up for you to actually consider a lot of other things. You know, like if you accept the fact that God is real, then you have to accept the fact that demons and Satan are real. Right. And vice versa. If you believe that there are demons real, you can't be an atheist.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And not believe that God is real. And so those kind of things just really intrigue me and find it fascinating. Well, on one thing I always believe is that, you know, we really live in a really spiritual world. You know, and that's one thing. And I'm not doubting anybody's beliefs. Everyone's free to their own beliefs, and I support anybody. But, you know, me personally, I am a Christian. I believe Jesus died on the cross for me.
Starting point is 00:46:09 But it's that same notion that, you know, with knowing that we live in a spiritual world, that there is a Holy Ghost as well, you know, other than just the. the spirits that walk among us. And it's something that people still don't want to believe, even though they believe in things like demons and ghosts and things. And just like you said, how can you believe in those things, but you can't believe in a higher power? And everybody tries to make their point.
Starting point is 00:46:44 And in no way am I trying to push religion on anybody, you know, by even saying this. It's just that's my own thinking. We're allowed to share our opinions here on the confessions. So, Cody, I really appreciate you coming on here and talking with us and sharing your stories. Before we get out of here, is there anything you'd like to share with the audience, any kind of advice, anything? Just closing thoughts. Yeah, you know, in no way, shape, or form, do I, you know, say that I'm a, you know, say that I'm a
Starting point is 00:47:18 professional or, you know, or having a professional opinion, but I would definitely advise people to go out and seek the unknown. You know, it's, whether it's spiritual or not of this world, you know, I would highly encourage people to go out and find the unexplained
Starting point is 00:47:39 and have their own experiences. You really open yourself up and open your life up to a lot more when you start I guess you could say finding more to reality because there's so much that we don't know about but the more that people
Starting point is 00:47:56 open themselves up and have their own experiences and we share them on this show like this show like this and we share them together the more you know we can really kind of come together and say
Starting point is 00:48:08 wow this is out there we need to get more people looking for these things you know yeah absolutely I 100% agree It's why the show even started because I just want people to feel comfortable sharing their stories and, you know, letting other people know that this stuff is okay to talk about. I say it all the time, but I mean it.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Like, it's okay to talk about this stuff. And if you have a second, I have one more quick, small story to tell you. Ooh, a bonus round. Let's do it. Yeah, I got a bonus one. So when I was up a college, I got into this Christian club and I'd started going to a Pentecostal church. Now, if people don't know, it was actually the Epstock Pentecostal Church. They really believe in the presence of the Holy Ghost and getting the gift of speaking in tongues.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I know it's in the evangelical churches and stuff too, but this belief is that everybody can pray in tongues once they're baptized in the Holy Ghost. And I remember being at church one day when I, you know, at this point I had thought. I had given my life to Christ, but this particular church service, I really had. And, you know, I was baptized with the Holy Ghost, and I remember speaking in tongues that day. And I remember, you know, coming home from work a couple nights later. And, you know, I was just enjoying music, driving down the road late at night, going back to my dorm room. And I remember out of nowhere, I just started praying in tongues and, you know, just speaking. and I even had to turn the music off and I was like, you know, I didn't know why.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And then I remember as I came up on this man, we had locked eyes and I stared at him, except for his eyes went like a neon yellow. And I remember him exposing his mouth and they were just like fangs as I rode by him. And that's when I just kept praying in tongues. And it was just such a crazy experience. And then I just remember going home and I prayed that. night and so believe that was my first true experience with seeing a demon yeah I'd say so and I don't even say that sarcastically I absolutely think that's what you saw I've heard just to tell
Starting point is 00:50:31 you I've heard recently a story of a guy I believe he was walking down the street and this model looking woman came jogging down the street by him he said blonde long blonde hair just jogging down the street and he said she was captivating and when he looked at her as she passed by her eyes glowed i think he said the eyes glowed and she had fangs and so he he he stopped right there and started rebuking her in the name of jesus and uh i can't remember what how i think she just kept on going i can't remember i feel i feel like Something else happened there, but I just don't remember. But I just heard that story not too long ago.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And it's very similar to what you just shared. That's wild. Yeah. And you know, it's funny because until this day, like, that is something I can see vividly and I can close my eyes and look and just remember like how locked on we were eye to eye and how it was just, it's a spiritual world out there. And I hope more people get to go out and experience it because it's such, even though that sometimes it could be frightening, it's a truly amazing experience.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah, absolutely. And I really hope that, you know, people understand that and, you know, take what you had to say to heart. And thanks for coming on here, man. I really appreciate it. Oh, thank you for the opportunity, man. I really appreciate it. You got it, man. I'll talk to you later. Take care. Well, that's the show, everybody. I hope you enjoyed yourself. I certainly did, as always. and I really hope you guys come and join us with the after party on YouTube tonight. Once again, you can find those links on our Facebook page, Twitter page, and on our website, the confessionalspodcast.com.
Starting point is 00:52:26 All you got to do is go over to the website, hit enter, and the first page that opens up, you'll see the video stream right there, and the link underneath the video will be the link you can click to go right to YouTube and join in on the chat. Come hang out with us, ask questions, and talk about the show. But it's going to be a lot of fun, and I hope to see you guys there. And those of you that don't show up, I'll definitely see you guys next week right here Saturday night for another episode of the Confessionals. Take care. Yeah, this one right here goes out to all the baby's mammas, mammas.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Mamas, mammas. Baby mama's, mamas. Yeah, go like this. Okay, let's see here. Emails. Click mouse. Come on, click. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I think my batteries are dying in this mouse. Um, hmm. Where is the show going? What? Where do you see the show going from five years from now? Hmm. That's a good question. Well, how to answer this.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I guess, well, five years from now, I'm hoping that this show is huge. and people are still enjoying it. And I hope that I have tons of guests lined up every week. Ah, man, where do I want the show to go? Well, yeah, I guess five years from now, I would love to be doing this full time and plenty of guests lined up, audience that just loves the show and enjoys it.
Starting point is 01:00:15 and, you know, I hope the people that are on the show can just share their experiences and, you know, get it off their chest and move on or clarify what actually happened to them so they can understand things better. But I just want to make an impact in people's lives one way or another. I know that sounds corny, but I just want to be an impactful person on this earth while I'm here. and apparently I have this platform, the confessionals, to do that. So I want to impact people's lives in a positive way. Yeah, I think I'll respond to this guy.

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