The Confessionals - 113: The Dark Guardian Follow Up Conversation
Episode Date: February 19, 2019On this follow up conversation we catch up with Jeremy from episode 113 "The Dark Guardian" and find out what has happened to him since we last talked. He goes over paranormal experiences he ...has had, a UFO sighting and talks about a military base that is supposed to be shut down but he insists it is anything but inactive.Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheConfessionalsWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3
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Welcome to the show, everybody. This is an episode where you're going to have some bonus content of a candid conversation between me and Jeremy from episode 113, The Dark Guardian. If you have not listened to that episode yet, I highly recommend you just stop this episode right now, go listen to 113 and then come back to this so that you understand the conversation we're about to have. He talks about some paranormal experiences that he's had since last time I recorded and also a UFO experience that he had. But on top of that, he informs me that he lives next to an old military base that was shut down a long.
time ago, but he insists that it's fully operational and up and running today. And sometimes,
I quote, he feels like an experiment. So let's get to Jeremy right now. This was all circulating
around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it.
I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then
disappeared. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. Dude, he slithered over to
to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing
at this giant. Well, the giant moves. He's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast.
And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face.
They basically decapitated.
Got spursers, got closer, got spursing, got spursing, when he got to blow this head off.
I feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over.
and there are two small gray entities pulling it.
And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed.
I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air.
Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster.
Hello.
Jeremy, how you doing, man?
Good.
Yourself?
Doing well, doing well.
Before we get talking and everything, do you mind if I record this?
All right, because I figured, you know,
know, maybe we talk about something good that we could plug on to the show.
Yeah, absolutely.
You, uh, you're ready to have your show air?
It's going to be going this week.
Absolutely, man.
Awesome.
So on Tuesday, it's going to be released.
I have, um, I have two other interviews that I'm doing before yours.
They're going to be short ones.
Uh, one is a guy who I came across this past week and, uh, he had a really very intriguing, um, video.
He's an explorer guy.
He goes exploring into old, old buildings and stuff.
one night he decided to go out. Yeah, he went out, he's from the UK and he went out to a place,
an old decrepit church and he's exploring inside. He told his wife he'd be back and whatever.
And he's in there filming and he hears something. As he turns to camera, there's a full body
person standing there peering around a doorway. And it looks very physical. Like you would,
it looks like it's actually somebody there, uh, white face, completely black gown, all from
head to toe, uh, the heads covered. It looked like a nun. Um, well, that's trippy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when I saw that, I was like, I reached out to him and we did a little interview. And then last week's show, I talked about a pyramid-shaped triangle that was, that appeared over the Pentagon and here in Washington, D.C. And that video was actually filmed by two different people. And the, or no, not two different, at least three different people. And I actually got one of the guys who filmed it to come on my show and talk about it a little bit. So he talked.
for about 15 minutes, and then we're going to dive into your show.
So what's been going on, man?
What else has been happening?
I mean, you said something about a UFO that you saw.
Yeah, man.
What happened?
Well, first thing, first, as soon as I talk to you,
it's really starting delving with the Bible and stuff,
I was doing a shower in this later in time,
and I was walking off from the bottom
and I was cutting my tile
and her balcony
and she wasn't there
and I started getting it's really really
really really cool vibe
I didn't like it
I'm normal
I'm not hearing on normal
I like to do something else
I'm not hearing anything you're saying
are you uh yeah
like I don't know if the phone's like
at your neck or something but it sounded
like it was muffled
is that better
dude crystal clear
crystal clear
okay yeah so
I walked out from the bathroom
to the couple of
my tiles.
And he's really
happy in my life
and had this
vision of
I've seen something
sitting on the coach
like a clear
clear, clear vision
and if he was like
given to me
but it's never
happened before
and it was a dude
a big ripped guy
he had like
hairy legs
like you'd seem
like an old cartoon
or something
like Harry Potter
movie
and you have like
super long hair
and like I
almost fell over
like he wasn't actually
sitting on the couch
you're like
He was like right in my brain.
I've never had that kind of experience.
And I was, I stopped doing my troughs.
I was like, I couldn't see a state.
And he had the same hand of me.
And I was like, oh, man, it's not good.
And I went back to the bathroom.
I started praying.
I prayed for like five or six minutes.
And then I came back out, and then there's nothing there.
And then while there, I kind of shored it off.
Camped on my train.
I said, one of the customers hung out on.
I would try to time.
Man, I'm having a hard time hearing you again.
It keeps...
I'm sure to take my...
Take my phone.
It just keeps sound like...
It like fades into like a weird muffle sound.
Is that any better?
Dude, that's amazing.
Yeah, that's probably the case.
It's all full of dirt.
Okay, so I'm outside of town and doing another guy's house.
Again, by myself.
So you're getting really creeped out out of nowhere.
Walked out of his kid's bedroom.
And I've seen...
I don't know if it was, like, again, like a vision inside of my head,
but it was so clear.
It was a green, like a goblin kind of looking thing.
Demon goblin.
It was conched over and it was just like looking out at me.
And he was in the corner of his kid's bed.
And it's for like a second or two too.
And I was like, oh shit, man.
Like here by myself, it sucks.
So I was just, again, start praying big time.
I closed the kid's door so I didn't have to walk by it anymore
and see what was in there.
And then, yeah, I had a couple of those.
That kind of threw me off.
started, like I said, just probably pray a lot when I see that kind of stuff.
So, thank you.
This is, those are just too bad happy with after the show.
And then as of recent what started happening, and I started texting you again,
we went out to look at a new house outside, out in Barry, Ontario.
And we went to this one house and it was, actually, you know what, sorry, yeah,
We went to the one house
It was really, really creepy
My fiance is like, man, let's get out here
And I even look at this house
It's not even look at this house. It's not cute
Because the price is really good
It's a brand new rebuild
And she's like, no, there's something in here
She's like, it's nasty
We have to leave right now.
I'm like, all right, cool.
So we left and we came back up north
And as soon as we got home
Within like an hour, she's like,
Oh, we got to burn sage.
She's like, I don't feel good about that house
And like something's here
And like, I don't like it.
I'm like, all right, that's cool.
We sage the apartment up,
parade and stuff.
she'd take a shower
I walked out to leave the room
and there was a dude
and like a dress suit
with like a 60s
kind of like
like top has like curved
at the top
kind of like an oval
with two side peak
kind of things
I remember I seen a documentary
of like a CIA guy
like a 60s
and that's what
that's what I took away from there
and then you're standing right there
and I was walking up
looked up seeing it
hit the wall sideways
and I fell down
like trembling back
I was never
that's really
scared me, man. Like really freaked me out. And then
some more stuff started happening. Something came into my room
a couple days later. I was standing at the end of my bed
and I'm looking at my dog and stuff and she was sleeping. And I heard a really
big guttural growl. Like not from my dog. It came like I felt in my feet.
And I'm looking around. I'm like, oh, that's weird. Like we have a concrete building
like you can't hear anything else. I'm like, all right, that's really
creepy. I remember hearing stuff
about that, like old ghost
documentary and Trisey's watch, and really, I didn't
like it. So we went to bed
and dog's sleeping. Dog didn't move.
And then around 2.30, 3
in the morning, my dogs
woke all of us up and
she was growling, like her crazy
angry growl.
And the first time I was ever heard of growl because
we only had her for a short period of time.
And she was growling at something near me
and I'm like, well, that's great.
And I was like, half to sleep.
I was trying to get pissed off.
I'm like, hey, Willow, like, relax, man.
I'm like, what are you crowling at?
But she wasn't letting up.
I'm like, all right, like, it's kind of weird.
So I turned lights on, and it felt weird in there, but, like, I didn't see anything.
I didn't get any, like, huge, like, premonitions.
So we went back to bed, woke up two hours later, and then I turned lights on.
And she was so scared when she, whatever, she was growling at, she peed the entire bed.
Like, full, full pee.
Yeah, it was, now I was like, oh, that's not good.
I was like, yeah, she thinks of that scared her so bad.
She made like a crazy like growl to like a solid minute and just completely peterosol.
So that kind of freaked me out.
And then yeah, so I started seeing, oh, what is it?
I'll get to the UFO thing.
It's probably the last thing I've seen.
So like when I was talking to about like the Bible and stuff last time we spoke,
started reading it.
I started praying a lot, ramping up my prayer, it's getting really specific.
And I was driving home from a Skokka one day.
And I knew like there's a spot in my car.
I don't know.
It just sounds weird, but in the back seat to me to the right, it's creeps me out, man.
It's like when I'm driving home, I drive two hours back and forth every day.
I'm usually on the highway at nighttime.
And it creased me out, like super, super just like I don't like it.
It's very uncomfortable.
So I pray a lot when I'm in the car.
And I ask whatever it's in the car, I'm like, I want you out of my car.
I don't care if you're just outside of it.
like power Christ
lead my vehicle now
and then drive like 100 kilometers an hour
and I see these two sets eyes there
right outside my windshield
like just white eyeballs
with like
like normal eye color
and you are like red around them
and I almost drove off the road
and it wasn't for like a split second
oh I see the corner of my eye
it was like one or two
straight seconds I've seen that
I'm like holy like this isn't leaving
like what hell is this
really really freaking out
So let me ask you before you go any further there.
You said that you told it to leave the car?
Yeah, that's what I thought was weird.
I'm like, I don't care where you go.
It did, right?
Yeah, I know, man.
That's what I was telling my show.
I'm like, I asked it to leave the car specifically.
I'm like, I don't care if you're outside the car, leave my car because you're making
you uncomfortable.
And then these angry eyes staring at me right in front of my windshield, my steering wheel is
freaking creepy, man.
Well, I would tell you this, man, maybe add to the phraseology that you use when you do that,
because, I mean, it worked, right?
You said in the power of Christ, leave the car and it did.
Right?
So what I'd suggest to people to do, and I don't think I said this to you on the show.
And honestly, I don't really deal with a whole lot of casting out of spirits and stuff.
I mean, I really don't.
But from some things that I've heard in other interviews and stuff, and I forget where I heard this,
but I would tell it in the power of Christ, leave my call.
and go where Jesus Christ tells you to go.
And that's a good idea.
And the idea of it is that you are now directing it to Jesus.
You go in the name of Jesus Christ,
where Jesus Christ tells you to go and put it in Christ's hand
and let God take care of it.
And that way, maybe that would help you.
I don't know, but that's what I suggest for people to do.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, seen that.
That really freak me out, man.
I wasn't too stoked to get my car
the next morning to drive back out there.
Yeah, so
so much stuff's been happening.
It's just bizarre.
After that, I didn't tell my fiance
about that hat man guy.
I literally, like, I was really scared
and I didn't want to scare her.
So I didn't say anything about it.
And then we were driving around
a couple of days later.
And I'm trying to
like muster up to tell her this thing.
And I like, the words couldn't come out.
I'm like, I'm telling him, like, I'm like, Dave, I'm like,
something does want me to tell you this.
I'm having a very hard time, like, executing these words right now.
And, like, I feel like there's something bad isn't going to happen if I tell you this.
And then as I was saying that, my dog was sleeping in her back.
Something happened to her, and she started squealing, like,
something was pushing into her, like really hard, like a scared, painful, like, really high-pitched squeal.
And it's so much where I looked back and, like, what the hell is going on?
I thought she got caught or something.
I, like, pinched her foot or something, but she was sleeping.
And then I kept getting louder or louder.
She was like, what's going on?
Like, something is happening.
And I mean, this is painful for me.
Like, she was really scared.
So I had to slam my brakes on, pull off the road and look back at her.
She looked so scared.
And it finally stopped.
She finally stopped squealing.
And I was like, oh, my God, man.
Like, this isn't good.
Like, I meant I lost her words as to what that was about, but.
as I was trying to tell her about this
like she just started
like somebody hurt her
like physically
it was just bizarre man
it's never happened anything like that
and then I told her about it
and she was like yeah it's not good man
she's like we got to
we ended up we're moving out of this place tomorrow
like there's so much stuff happening here
we're just we've decided to move
we threw a towel and right to the house
got out of this building
but um yeah man
I don't know what that was about
but it was pretty scary
I felt bad for the dog.
She's a good dog.
She actually a really good guard dog.
She took really well to my son.
She keeps them safe.
It's nice because I'm on the road a lot.
So you're saying that an inflicted pain on your dog, not your girlfriend?
Yes, on the dog, yeah.
As you were trying to tell your girlfriend, it inflicted pain on the dog.
Yeah, man, it was weird how it lined up like that.
Because I'm like, I'm having a really hard telling it, but it's like time getting us out.
I'm like, I don't know why.
I'm like, it's so weird.
I'm like, I'm like, I told her, like, literally.
I'm like, it's like something doesn't want me to tell you.
I have a really bad feeling something's going to happen.
And as I was saying it, she starts squealing, like, really loud.
And it starts getting, like, louder and more scared squealing sound.
And I was like, what the heck, man?
Like, to the point, right, actually had to, like, pull over and stand with the brakes and look back here,
and she looked super scared and really just, like, pour it up.
I'm like, oh, my God.
Like, what?
What's happening?
This isn't cool.
Anyway, that happened.
Yeah, it was pretty weird, man.
So a couple days later,
maybe I was about a week and a half ago.
I was gassing up my car.
And I remember I told you in my last,
when we spoke last,
I always felt that there was like,
to be honest,
I feel like there's something attached to me.
And I always have,
I've always felt like I'm never alone.
And like, I'm going to get like,
something bad's going to have, like something that's got to touch me, or you know what I mean?
It's like creepy.
Ugh, I hate it.
But the praying really, really helps.
And I'm pretty grateful for that.
I was gassing out my car the other day, probably like two days ago.
I was pretty tired.
I'm pretty sick, so it sucks having to work when you're not feeling good.
And I don't know if I saw it, heck, I was like out of it, but I was already up for an hour.
Gassing up the car.
Go to get back in the car, shut the door, look at it.
up with the rear of your mirror, which I still keep pent up.
And there is a full face of a man,
like probably from like his lips up to his,
or top of his eyebrows.
He was this experience.
I mean, he looked past.
And I'm like, what?
Like, what is this?
And then I blinked and he's still there looking at me.
I'm like, watch.
Like, this is the longest time I've ever seen anything.
And then I started praying.
But I wasn't overly scared.
It was weird.
So I started thinking, like, on my drive out there, I'm like, is this a thing that's like been following me around since I was a little kid?
And how we talked before, how like that, that medium lady told me that there was like some sort of dark angel, which I don't believe in either.
I certainly think that she's seen something attached itself to me back then because I always felt that there was something with me.
And it's a very, very uneasy feeling to have.
but I had this weird like
intuitional understanding that
that this is the guy
like in QA's past
he did not look impressed
he's like scowling
scowling at me
but I didn't feel like
super super scared I was almost like
I don't know man it's weird
but usually I get pretty scared
yeah you know I
I would agree with that man
I mean clearly
there has been something attached to you
throughout your entire life
and it's something that
you're very aware of. I think there's a lot of things that are attached to a lot of people throughout
their lives. They're just clueless to it or it's just not coming across as aggressively as you.
But there's people out there that have these experiences like you where it's like, it just seems
like something's following their entire life. I think that is something that happens far more often
than people want to give credit to. It's just some people feel it more than others.
Yep. Definitely. Definitely. So we'll get into the U.S.
both thing here.
I have always been a believer in UFOs.
I've seen the kind of
something which I thought was a UFO, but it was like
it looked like stars moving around
really fast when I was like a little kid.
And that was all I've ever seen in my life.
I knew that I
100% believe in them.
Never a gazillion years I ever think I would be lucky
enough to ever see anything like that.
Droving back down the highway from
Muscoa back up north for the night.
So,
there's a two-day period.
So the first day I'm driving out there
and I see as I pull out, I see this really, really,
really bright star in the sky.
There's no other, there's no other stars in the sky.
And there's a less bright
underneath it.
It looked artificially bright.
Like it was illuminating, like it almost looks like an LED light.
Like it was really illuminating, man.
Like, it was weird.
I've never seen it like it.
And we live up north, we see stars all the time,
you know what I mean?
I can see planets.
well, like, one planet
and I think it's, I don't know if it's Venus or something, but
it's red.
Anyway, this thing was huge, and it was not the moon
because I could see them in.
And there was no other stars but the moon.
And it was just shooting out so much light.
It really threw me off. I took a picture of it.
Like, I don't want to take a picture of this.
And I guess it was really strange.
The same thing is, went down to my job,
did my job. This one's way in the bush,
so it took me longer to get back home.
I was driving back in the highway. I had about
two and a half an hour drive.
and then driving back home
middle of nowhere
it's all just bush
I'm on the highway
and the inside my car lights up blue
and I was like all right
that's freaking weird
I'm thinking there's a snowplow around
because they have blue lights
on top of their trucks
but they're not that great
I've driven by them like 50 times
since to kind of test it
and they don't even show up in the car
there's like a little twirly bird thing
on top of their truck
so I didn't really pick up
when the first time I was driving back
and like that's really
strange and I felt weird. I'm like, I feel like like this weird feeling that somebody's
following me. I'm like, oh, that's really odd. My intuition is pretty fair. And then I didn't
think it, I kind of blew it off. I'm like, all right. And then after about two or three minutes
at last time, like, you know what? Maybe it was just like a business really, really far in the
woods that had like, I don't know, but it followed me for like, and I was been 100 kilometers
an hour. So it was like two or three minutes. So that was kind of a little question. I didn't
really, I didn't put too much thought into it, to be honest.
The next day, same thing, came out.
I noticed those two stars.
One was still super, super bright.
And I just kept noticing.
It looked super artificial, like, putting out a weird amount of, like,
just super bright, white light.
And I find stars are almost kind of, like,
I don't know, they're not super bright like that,
like LED looking.
Like I said, we notice few stars in here all the time.
Grading back from Muscoa again,
the same area, and the blue light's in the car.
again. I'm like, oh man, that's freaking weird.
And I kind of slowed down.
And I'm trying to look at my passenger side window
to see, like, where the flight's coming from.
But it's just all bush.
And I look behind me, and there's a car
maybe like, I don't know.
Like, you drive truck, you're on the highway.
All you can see is two of dots. Like, the guy's way
far back. And probably, like, a good kilometer or two.
And then I see this really, really soft, white light
on the back of my car. And I was like, oh, that's weird.
I'm like, how the hell did that guy get up here so
fast.
Again,
like not thinking anything of it.
And then I don't like
when people tail me,
but I kind of go slow.
I don't break-check people,
but I kind of slow down
and people pass me or whatever.
And then the next thing I know
the light's gone
looking in the rearview mirror
on the left
from the right-hand lane.
And there's these two,
I don't know,
like tractor,
like the same height as like a transfer
it would be
where lights would be,
but it's just two perfect circles
but they weren't emitting
any light.
Like there weren't,
like light wasn't really.
leaving like a headlight wood or even a floodlight would.
It was just perfectly, just like a dull light.
And I'm driving, I'm like, man, that's freaking weird.
I'm like, all I can see is like two light, two headlights.
I'm like, where's the vehicle?
Like, out there's the way of the highway.
I'm like, all right, keep driving.
I'm like, I'm watching the thing the whole time in my review.
I'm like, yeah, it's just so weird.
I'm like, how are they driving in the highway?
I'm like, there's no way they can see in front of them
because there was nothing lit up in front of light
like on our vehicles when we drive.
It was just two dull circle lights
and had pulled out from behind my trunk
and I could still see the other guy
way, way, way back there.
I'm like, where did this guy come from?
Man, like, that's just freaking weird.
So I was going over 100 kilometers an hour now.
And yeah, it tailed me for, I don't know,
like three, four kilometers in me.
And then blacked out as I was watching it.
I'm like, whoa!
Yeah, whatever.
It was just blanked out and it was gone.
And all the lights are gone.
There's no more light behind my car.
There's no more blue light in my car.
And I called, I got so scared.
I'm like, yeah, man.
I think I know what just happened.
And I was freaking out.
I just felt like really vulnerable.
I don't like that feeling.
I'm not a fan of not being in control of the situation.
All these are ghosts you can, like, run away.
Driving down the highway and like a UFO comes up or something like that.
what are you going to do?
I don't know the technology of combat,
anything like that.
So I was kind of freaked out.
Call with you know what I'm saying.
I never call her on the way home because I like to really focus on the drive
because I don't really particularly like driving at nighttime.
And I call her, she's like, hey, say, hey, Journey, what's going on?
She's like, why are you calling me?
What's wrong?
And I was like, I called her before.
In the summertime, there's a car followed me home, which is, I'll tell you,
that was freaking weird.
And then, I'm like, I told her, I didn't tell what it happened.
I'm like, I just want to call and say, hey.
She's like, no, no, no.
She's like, what's wrong?
She's like, you don't sound good.
She's like, what happened?
I'm like, nothing.
I'm like, I just want to talk to a couple minutes.
I'm like, just keep me on the phone for a bit.
And I'm pretty sure I cut her in the phone the entire time until I got home.
I was just listening to her and my kid playing stuff.
She didn't speak her phone.
And I ended up telling her.
And she was even just like, well, man, she's like, that's bizarre.
And she's almost just like, that's a good story.
Like, I don't, like, I believe you about like, holy Mac, you know, like, UFO.
and stuff.
Like, that never, we see coasts all the time, but nothing, like, extraterrestrial.
So I don't know what it was, man.
Like, I felt like I seen a disc or anything, but that really just still fogs on mine.
So the next morning, I walk out expecting to see these things in the sky again,
and they weren't there, they're gone.
And that was it.
I haven't seen it again since.
And I look at it, like, I'm out, I'm out here every single morning, and I haven't seen
it again.
I see us
there is a brighter star in the sky
I've noticed
and there's a star
like way way way off to the side
but there's not that
super bright one
with the one underneath it
and that picture
I took a picture
and it's gone
it's not in the sky anymore
because
when I pull out my driveway
and I don't know
I believe I'm facing south
they're right in front of me
and when I drive south
the whole time
I literally watch them
those two days the entire drive
so my god
fascinating I'm like man
how does that star so bright
that's freaking
weird. And then, yeah, man, they're gone now. And I've never, nothing else has happened since
them in regarding to anything with that situation. So yeah, kind of, still kind of pondering it.
It wasn't that long ago. And I don't know what happened, man. It's just super weird.
Well, it is weird. Why would you want to follow me? You know what you mean?
Well, I think that's a question you shouldn't even ask yourself anymore.
Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
You should be used to the idea of just not being in control of these things.
Yeah, for sure.
It's weird, though, man.
It is weird.
And I don't know what to make of it.
It's, you know, I hear.
I've been on the highway every day.
Like, it's just never my life have I seen anything like that.
And I'd even put it together right away that there was some,
because I was looking at my rear view and year.
I'm like, oh, that's a weird, just like it's such a, like a dusty light.
Like, it was definitely what's not headlight.
this weird, dull light.
And when I, I was trying to see it from them,
I turned around and, like, try and look at it and stuff my rear view.
And I look back, and it's the light, the lights are beside me now,
like, almost on my trunk, just following me.
And they didn't pass me or anything.
I tried to throw it down, and they're just going to see them.
Like I said, when people do that, I try and slow it down and let them pass because
pisses me off.
But no, they just stayed there, and they tailed me for a while, and then gone,
blacked it out.
And after now, she was just like, okay, this is very,
comfortable.
I don't want to just
but still had like an hour drive.
And then I ended up catching up to a
transport and I tailed them the entire of the home.
So if anything,
tried to make me move to be
witnesses.
Yeah, man, it's super, super weird.
Yeah.
Two of things in my apartment
have moved on their own
since we talked.
My wife and kid
were out in the living room the other day
and they sat down and the remote
was in the table and I jumped.
jumped up and kind of like
like a like a like a flip
it was like 10 gene away from them
even my son looks at her and they both look at each other
like what? You just see that happen?
They're both just kind of like dumbfounded
like what was that?
That's super weird.
Most don't like jump around on their own.
And then the other time
I was so haunted I actually took my son
out of his room
because he didn't want to be in there anymore
and we put his bed beside our bed
and he's in our room now.
two weeks move and um yeah man we were in his room playing we had this big like medicine
it was like workout balls and uh no windows or anything like that opened it's no draft
a ball is sitting there and i told him like buddy we're gonna get out of here and like thinking
myself man like i had this really really bad feeling something something didn't feel good like really
negative i started getting like actually kind of pissed off and like something it's like a like a
like a psychic attack.
And I'm like,
right,
let's go.
And then right with us,
where I felt just like
negative energy
coming from the ball,
started moving.
And it started rolling towards me.
I freaked out.
I picked them up.
I picked them up.
And then I picked them up.
And we,
I just sat door behind me.
Didn't go back in there
a couple days.
I mean,
that freaked me out.
I didn't like that.
I don't like when stuff
to lose around.
Ugh.
Freaks me out.
Oh,
yeah.
I mean,
I think it would freak anybody out.
Yeah.
Yeah,
I know, man.
I was just almost dumbfounded.
I'm like,
this just happened?
I was like,
no way.
Like,
you know,
everything as a kid
only ever happened
when that
Gia Joe got thrown on me.
Like,
things don't really get moved around too much.
But,
yeah,
it did.
So we decided to pack her in here
and move on.
Hopefully,
the house is the house
we just got to new build.
I'm sure,
like I said,
whatever these things are
that are following me
around me as I go anyway.
But this is,
it's a really old building.
And to be honest,
if you,
have my own theories as to what's happening around this building.
Everybody in this building, man,
is bizarrely negative.
It's almost like
a bunch of, like, zombies walking around, man.
It's creepy.
Like, they're all really mean.
I don't like it. It's very negative building.
We actually live beside,
I'm going to out myself with my address here,
but we live,
which I believe is on top of, or,
yeah, I'm pretty sure we're on top of,
but no-ri-military base up north
and I'm in here.
I'm up in Northern Ontario
and I'm looking at it right now
and we actually, when I talk to you,
I was at the parking lot
sitting on top of the underground military base.
It's like one of Canada's biggest
underground bases for the Cold War.
They got like nuke's under there and stuff.
I don't know if they're still active.
They try and tell us, they're like,
oh yeah, it's not active anymore, but
no way, man, it's like armed guards up there and stuff
and they just changed all the lights.
I can just look at it right now
and live beside it.
It's pretty active.
They see those, you know, the helicopters that supposedly took up in Laden, they're, like, super quiet.
Yeah.
They have, like, do big helicopter things on them.
I see those in here pretty frequently flying over the hill.
Because nowhere I had military base is inside of the mountain.
I was, I'd been in it when I was a kid.
Pretty interesting.
You've been in the military base?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The underground military base.
Yeah, it's huge, man.
So, you can drive transport truck through it.
Why were you in there?
I was a kid.
They brought us in for a tour.
Who?
Who brought you in?
Um, their school.
Your school did.
Yeah.
How old were you?
That was weird.
Sheesh.
It's six, like 10, 10 years old.
10 years old?
And your experience is started around seven years old, right?
Yeah, around there, yeah.
Yeah, man, it was poorly.
I don't know.
It was a weird experience, man.
I'm like, I've been pretty sure it was just my class.
I don't think the whole school went.
Yeah, they brought us in, and there's, like, dude's just like M16,
solar source thing at the gate.
they brought us into the
base they drove us through and you could
literally drive like a transport truck through it
like it's just massive
driving it forever man
like there's actually if you go on YouTube
and you go to the North Bay
I myself again the North Bay military
norad base there's an actual video
of one of the contractors put a GoPro
and drove through the military base
and it's sped up super quick and it's still 15 minutes
and that's just the main drag like there's
all kinds of offshoots because I've been in them.
And yeah, there's all kinds of computer rooms.
And then I remember we went to to open up this door and they brought us down.
And they're like, guys are like, no, no, no, no, no.
He's like, can't go in there.
And he got really serious.
I'm like, oh, man, come on, she wants to, too much in there, man.
I'm super curious.
And he's like, that's the adult room.
And it always sparked his name like, what hell?
Adult room?
Like, later in life, well, is that a club porn or something?
Like, he's like, it's for adults only.
And I'm like, all right.
Shit, I'm sorry, bud.
Yeah, I mean, I can, I can.
understand there being areas of no-go zones. But what I'm curious about is, like, I don't know.
I mean, you, I've never heard of field trips to military bases. Was this something that, like,
every year they took the same class, like, you know, fifth grade goes there?
As far as I know, no one ever else has ever been there. I saw people that sort sometimes
like, how'd you get down there? I'm like, oh, it's my class, man. They're like, that's weird.
They're like, we've never, like, no one I know or they've ever been down there.
I'm only military guys.
Are you still in communication with anybody from that class that was there with you?
I tried, man.
They're all gone.
They're all gone.
They even closed a school down.
School's gone, though.
It was a historical school.
Yeah, I thought it was weird.
It just seems off, man.
I don't know.
I just as soon as you said it.
It's like pretty secret of military base.
Like, you don't have a lot going there.
Like, they're still armed gardener and stuff.
But they say it's closed.
They say that it is closed.
They're like, oh, we're going to rent it out to like the national history VH.
I try to look it up.
All I could find is like somebody, I guess like the Canadian Film Association wants to put
all their VHSs down there because they didn't know where to put them.
And the base is like, no.
But they're like, whoa, it's closed.
Why can't we rent it from me?
They're like, no.
And it's clearly not close, man.
Like I said, I see those hell of those black chargers when there all the time.
It's a very, very active military base.
So, like, I would try to envision to you.
Right now, I'm on main level in front of Charlotte Lake.
I'm looking at the hill where the military base is inside of it.
I used to walk my dog today.
You can pretty much walk right up to the fencing area,
and you can even see visually.
I'll take a picture, please.
for what.
The big hole cut out of the mountain where the big doors go.
You do drive transport trucks right into the mountain.
It's pretty interesting.
I'm looking it up on Google Maps right now.
Yeah, it's pretty weird, man.
It's like, dude, it's so big.
There's no way it's closed down.
It's fucking huge.
And this is just like, and there's so many rumors around town and how big it actually is.
But when I moved back here from Alberta,
a couple of three years ago, it was still.
board.
I was trying to get back
in my feet, and I was staying with a buddy.
He was actually my fiance's
girlfriend, and I met her boyfriend there.
And he were talking, I'm like, hey man,
he's like, yeah, someone with the normal
at base. I'm like, oh, you've been out there, that's cool.
And I went there now as a kid, and even he was like,
he was like, that's an entrepreneur, dude.
He's like, how did you guys get down there?
Like, you were a freaking school trip?
Like, that's just weird.
I don't know, it was normal to me.
They just, oh, hey, they were going to the boat,
like, we were going, and we went down there
and check the road and stuff.
Weirdly enough, I don't remember actually anything happening down there.
I've never thought about it actually since we talked.
All I remember is going down and they showed us the radar equipment.
Actually, oh man, I can't, I don't have yet time.
I can go more into it.
My grandpa used to work in there.
And he was like, he was really into the Cold War.
He was a military guy who he worked at his base.
That's why we live here in our base because he's raised his family.
here. And during the Cold War, my grandpa was a pretty high-ranking military guy. He did a lot of work with
the Americans during the, like, that's what they're Norat thing is. It's like the North American
Missile Treaty or her. So, like, there's always Americans here working on the space because it's like
a shared thing. And he's, um, my mom, my aunt's a mom about it because my grandpa, he's very
old school. He will never, he'll go to his death then, man. He won't tell you a sting. But he's
alluded to my mom. And I got to said my mom.
So I'm like, I'm super into, like, conspiracies and stuff and, like, the truth and stuff like that.
So my mom would, like, tell me, I'm like, he's God who have told you something.
And he's like, he did, he did.
I'm like, well, totally told you.
I'm not going to be about telling you one on a podcast.
So she's like, yeah, she's like, he showed me his papers, like he was clear to do like black, like black operations and like all that's other stuff.
I'm like, well, tell me more about this.
This is super interesting.
And she's like, I can't.
Like, all I know, he was in black operations,
and he was physically, she's like,
I have his charts where he was,
he was approved.
He had to go through all these physical analysis and stuff like that
to get approved to go into these black operations.
And then all I know is he was banned from going to Cuba
because I was going to have a wedding there.
You can't go.
And he alluded to my mom about, like,
how he's done really, really, really bad shit for the government.
Like he alluded to torturing people.
and stuff in that in those words.
You know, like trying to say things without saying them.
So God knows what's happening in this basement.
It's a really negative area.
I don't like it.
I don't even go.
I used to walk my dogs up there and stuff and run
because it's actually, it's beautiful.
And like the hiking trails are on top of the actual facility.
And I don't go up there anymore.
Just freaking out too.
There's too many antennas.
What kinds of weird antennas and stuff coming out of the bush?
It's really creepy and weird.
Almost like harp-looking kind of stuff on top of the mountains.
I take a picture for you one day. Actually, you know what? I'm having my old phone, I'll take a look.
So I went up there one day. I'm like, what is this? Well, what is this?
How far? How far were you from the base when you were seeing the UFOs?
Oh, man, I was pretty far. I was about an hour. Okay. So what, tell me about these antennas that you're talking about coming out of like Bush. What are you talking about?
Okay, so the mouth of the one side, because there's, there's an opening at the top of this, like, you've got to go around the city and you go off.
what we call airport hill,
and then that's where we actually have our military base.
Because we have a pretty big military base here
besides the underground base, like a military base.
They have a whole city, dude.
There's a whole city from the Cold War era
that they have now renovated it in
so the military soldiers can live up there.
Yeah, on top of, I'm in North Bay.
On top of the North Bay military base,
yeah, there's like a whole city up there, man,
of just strictly for the military.
And I even said, like,
if you're driving your car up there and your civilian,
coughs have the way to pull you over and strip
it to, like, rip your car apart and do
whatever they want, and you lose all your rights jumping up there.
So I tend not to go up there anymore once I found that out.
And then, uh, I see UN planes up there all the time.
I had a couple of jobs up there.
I was renovated.
I was actually in those houses renovating, and then, uh, yeah,
seeing UN planes up there.
I thought it's kind of weird, man.
One of the UN planes landed.
And then within, shit, I took a picture of it.
I'm like, hot, weird.
I didn't know if the UN planes came here.
a big old, like big bowling thing.
And then within like an hour, there was a black sticker.
And like the UN sign is probably six feet tall.
So like takes up half that huge like wing thing coming out to back plane.
It was blacked out.
I don't know if they painted it or I don't know why you'll cover it.
Maybe they just commissioned it right away.
I don't know.
But yeah, they covered up the UN send away away.
Because when I went to go take a picture of it again,
don't want to get a better angle when I was done work.
It was gone.
They had this black square over it.
I just thought it was kind of weird.
You know, I'm like that's weird.
I find it covered out of. Anyway. Well, I find it interesting. And I'm looking at it. So the North Bay
NORAD base, it looks like it was an Air Force, I'm assuming, right? Yes. Okay. So I have... We have a huge runway
up here. It's still super active. Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. It's big, man. That's huge.
Yeah. So there's not too far from me, there was an Air Force base that was shut down. And even though it's
shut down. I've done deliveries there.
Like, it's still operable, but it's just not
really, it's not an Air Force base per se.
It's just like they're putting people there, you know,
to work in offices and things like that.
And then they do have an armed guard at the,
at least the entrance that I go to with my trailer,
my tractor trailer.
They have armed guards that have to look and, you know,
through everything and check you out.
But I delivered in that area.
Like, it's not just like I go to this space and then I head out of the area.
Like, I've driven around the best.
to different businesses and stuff all over to place for years.
I've never, ever, ever, ever saw helicopters, planes, nothing going into that.
Oh, really? Never, because it's a shutdown Air Force base.
Like, they have, like, they have some kind of, like, museum or something like that,
where they have, like, old-time planes sitting out there.
When you drive by it on down the road, you can see the planes.
And they're just, you know, old relics.
But they never, ever, ever.
No, man, this is a, this place is like legit.
It's super active, man.
Like, big time.
Helicopters, black helicopters in and out of all the time.
Jets, I always hear jets screaming.
It's really annoying, actually.
I don't like it.
I think I'm uncomfortable.
Well, yeah, man, I, all summary see, not every day, but like the odd time, you're
like, I'll see those huge Bin Laden helicopters flying over the, over the mountain,
going to the other side of the base.
It's pretty constant, man.
Like, there's jets in there all the time.
Like the Mara Bays is very much alive.
I actually, okay, so
goes back to my buddy I was telling you about earlier.
When we came back to here in North Day from Alberta,
he's like, yeah, man, he's like,
you remember how, and I was telling him how I went down there.
He was just that he thought it was super weird too.
He's like, and to be honest with you, man,
that's another major reason why we're moving.
We think that there's some weird shit happening outside
with military base and like kind of like harp kind of things
because we'll get like super, super weird, like chest feelings
and it is very uncomfortable.
I mean, honestly, some of the things you're feeling might,
if there's something nefarious going on at the base,
there might be...
I think a catch subject, to be honest with you.
Right.
And I can understand that.
I can understand that you feel that way.
And if they're sending out signals or they're doing something,
I just, I don't know, man.
And I might be grasping at straws.
Let's just be honest here.
I might be grasping straws.
It's very...
Yeah, but here's the thing.
It's all updated stuff.
Here's the thing.
I mean, Canada, the United States, two different countries.
They operate them.
Militaries differently.
Everything.
There's tons of different things that could be going into why you see activity there,
even though it's a shutdown base.
But I just get this weird feeling when you said about the military base,
you're going in there when you were around 10 years old,
three years after these experiences started for you.
And just it seems like the enhancement of your experiences throughout your life.
I just feel like maybe there's something related here.
But why you're, why you get these feelings that you're being watched, that there's something there with you.
You know, I just don't know.
I just don't know, man.
Yeah.
I get a very, very, very, very uneasy feeling looking at that base.
It creeps me out big time.
And, oh, shit, yeah, for you.
I tell you, too.
Okay, so, like, I'm gone all the time, man.
Like, I'm constantly on the road.
I don't get back to, like, my time.
So during a day, I'm not really here unless it's the weekend.
Even then, man, it's still going to work sometimes.
So my
Fiolta is like
One day
I take the day off
Because something happened
I don't know
I forget
I think it was like
Contracted a day to shop
Or something
And I'm sitting laying in bed
resting
And I could hear
This like reverberation
Like a
What the heck is that?
It's like
Oh yeah
That's like that's like
The heart things
They're telling me about
I'm like
What are you talking about man
Like what?
It's like yeah
It happens every day
And she's like yeah
It's like a radio
video waves. You can, you can, you can feel
them. She's like, a thousand out of the building.
And she's like, yeah, it's really loud, eh? I'm like,
dude, are you kidding me? Like, you hear this
every day? I, I flipped out.
I'm like, are you? Like, that was
so loud. It was like,
I jumped out of bed and like, what is?
Like, what that sounds? And then
ever since then, she's like, yeah, have their day, man. Like,
they're doing weird stuff there. We got to get out here.
I'm like, okay, yeah, done.
Pull my landline and, like, road to you, man.
The goal thing was one thing,
right? Like, that I didn't like the building.
you know, had all these things like that is like, no, man, no way.
We got a house from the bush.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, so you got paranormal crap going on your life.
You got some, maybe some kind of, maybe a separate weird governmental harp conspiracy
bull crap happening to you.
I know.
Like, I don't, listen, man, even if you move to another place and you don't outrun the paranormal
stuff, you can just scratch this off your list of things happening to you, go for it.
You know what I mean?
Right.
And like, maybe I'm thinking, like, I'm the way we're talking.
recently and I'm like you know what I'm like
like whoever my
grandpa was like I don't talk
to anyone in my family anymore that they're so super
negative and you know I don't want to learn my kids
so I kind of
I do my own thing though still my own family
and but when I did talk to them
um
so
trying to give you like I'm like I'm like
did my grandpa like sell us out or something like that back in the day
because like he was a big guy down here man
like we get quick
quick little story we moved in here
when I was like 15, 16, we got this place, still about a military base.
And we had this neighbor.
Oh, a guy hated us.
We were partying a lot.
We'd always open the garage door and drink in there if you're a teenager, right?
And then he would write down every time we'd open the door for like months.
And he had this old notebook.
He's like, I'm going to sue you and blah, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff.
He's really mean guy.
And then my mom walked up and he's like, what's your last name?
And she said her last name, which is my grandpa's last name.
He's like, oh, he's like, you're not really.
to steal itself.
And she was like, yeah.
Just like dead face.
He was so nice to us after that.
He was shovel our driveway.
Like, hey, Jeremy.
Oh, hey, buddy.
And I go out and talk to you for half an hour.
Like, this guy wanted to kill me, man.
He's going to sue me.
And then he's like this super nice guy.
Like, clearly, he's super scared with my grandpa.
I don't know who this guy he was.
But he's a mean guy, man.
Like, he's a very, very, very not a good, not a good guy.
He's a good guy.
Scary.
A scary dude.
And he's tall, man.
It was like six, seven.
He's a really mean-looking dude.
I'm very cold.
Like, I'll talk to him once a year.
I used to, I'm talking to my...
Talked at once in a year, like,
a big job, I had a birthday.
Pops me up to someone else.
I'm like, hey, thanks, grandpa.
Whatever, man.
Yeah, very cold, dude, man.
Yeah, so, like, I don't know.
It's connected.
I don't know.
It's just super weird.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know either, but it definitely is super weird.
and the fact that your grandfather worked there
and the supposed operations
that he was, you know,
possibly working within,
it does raise a lot of questions
as to how does that possibly relate to your life?
And for like the hard things I was telling you about it.
So in the summertime, I was up there,
and I didn't know that the stuff was up there.
So I'm walking,
I was kind of jogging.
And I've seen this trail.
I'm like, I'm like, oh, my fullest trail,
whatever.
Follow the trail.
And now I get to flat land.
It's a big, it's like a little mini-knife.
There's very big hill.
And then it took a little 20 minutes to get up and I was running jogging.
So I get to the top in the flat ground and I see all these silos.
I'm like, oh, this is interesting.
I started walking.
So it's like Canadian military defense back off, like warning signs all on the fences.
And there are silos coming out of the top of the mountain with doors on them that you could like clearly, you open a door, you climb into the mountain.
And then there's all these like huge, huge, huge antennas.
and they all look brand new.
Like, newer with, like, they're not, like,
they're not, like, they're not, like,
stuff from the Cold War.
Like, they're newer. They're all, like, light and, like,
clean, and there's tons of them.
And they're all fenced off, can't go near them.
And then, like, so I'm like,
that's weird. Like, that's one. And, like, I know a lot of
hurts. I'm like, ah, it's very interesting.
And they look like these huge poles.
They look like telephone poles, but they're, like, metal.
And they're probably twice, three times as high
as a telephone pole coming out of the ground.
I don't know what those things are either.
But, like, they're huge.
They're all new.
And then one day I was walking down the hill,
and I kind of went,
I veered off down a different trail.
I was just,
I wanted to do.
And I was collecting pine needles
because I was making my own,
binding them up and doing my own little smud sticks and stuff.
And I was collecting some pine needles and stuff.
And I've seen this other one.
And now, like,
I've done a bunch of them.
We're sporadic, man.
There's all throughout,
all throughout the forest.
There's huge antennas and stuff.
It's just super weird.
And if you go to the bottom of the mountain
and people, like some people have
around the tree line, people have their houses and stuff.
And you see these
events coming out of the ground, like a big tube, and it looks like a
like a candy cane.
So water can actually get into it, right?
And you see like air coming out of it.
So clearly, there's a military base here
under the ground, clearly. I've been in there.
You can watch, go on YouTube tonight, go
North Bay, Norad Military Base, and you can watch
a tour of some, clearly some contracts
with a GoPro,
driving through the entire thing.
And it's massive there.
Like 15 minutes,
and it's sped up the entire time.
I'm probably a kick of an hour to drive through it.
And that's just like the main trade.
There's like all these different side shoots.
What else you're going to tell you is,
we were told as kids that this place,
it's not that big.
It doesn't go under the lake.
It just, it is what it is.
Living with this guy a couple years ago,
he's like, yeah, man,
he's a telecommunications installer.
And the military called his company.
They're a pretty good, big company here.
like accredited know-up stuff to go in and wire up some stuff from and sturgeon falls is the opposite way at this base of where it's not supposed to be and he's like yeah man he's like we were like they brought me in like into the base because like then we drove like west like towards sturgeon for like 15 20 minutes man
and he's like we're going like 60 through this like huge massive hollowed out like you drive like 10 transfer through it's huge I mean so like that's huge keep driving 20 minutes and the opposite to
direction.
This thing is just,
it's still big,
and it's so active.
I had a customer recently,
her husband,
was the new contractor
for the NORAD computer systems.
And like,
I wasn't being those.
I was like,
I'm just too,
like my grandpa's like
and I can't tell me a little bit
about your husband does.
Like he was so active.
She's like,
oh,
yeah,
yeah,
for sure.
She was like,
they just hired them.
Switch out all their new,
like,
to updating all the computer systems and stuff.
So, like,
it's very active.
Like,
he doesn't go into,
like,
like the secret rooms and stuff, but yeah.
Like, it's not shut down by any mean.
I don't know why they keep saying that.
But Canada, I find, there's a lot of weird stuff that happens to Canada, man, and nothing
ever makes the news.
There's no conspiracies about Canada, like you guys have in the States.
We very much cover our stuff up very well here.
Yeah, well, it's weird.
They cover up stuff here, too, because on our news, they don't talk about this stuff.
It's just, you know, I don't know if maybe we're more vocal about what's going on.
I think you are, yeah, for sure.
because no one ever talked about Canada.
It's like me.
It's weird, man.
Hence you're calling an American podcast
because nobody's talking about it up there.
I know, I know.
I know that Richard Therick guy
lives in Canada too.
But I don't, I've never talked to him before.
I just found his thing on there.
Wild Doc.
Yeah, he's a good guy.
He's a good guy.
He, um, him and I work together on, um,
some cross-promotion for our shows and stuff.
a very, very nice guy.
You might want to reach out to him and talk to him and stuff.
He might know a little bit more than I do about it.
And I'm sure he would be very open at least hearing you out and things like that.
But I would highly suggest you to talk to him because since he lives in Canada,
he might have some information or at least heard some things.
Yeah, man.
I'm pretty sure this town's like one big experiment, to be honest with you.
There's a lot of weird stuff that happens in this space.
I know it.
And you live there your whole life.
Look at my, well, off and on you.
Like when I was in my teens, I took off to Toronto for a good.
And we went to west for like a year.
But you know what's weird?
And like we joke about it.
Like all my buddies, we're all around like, dude, we're never staying North Bay and there.
And we like, you hate this town.
We're out of here.
Every one of us gets stuck back in here somehow.
We hate it.
I hate this town.
It's disgusting.
I hate me here.
And for whatever reason, life always brings me back here.
It's weird, man.
I'd come back three times now.
I'm 32.
I'm back here again.
Now I'm making it work to have my own business.
and stuff, but I don't know how I get stuck back into North Bay, man. It's just freaky.
I'm like, I'll talk to other buddies and they're like, hey, buddy, you're like,
you got stuck back in too, man. I'm like, what are you doing here?
I thought you were in Alberta. He's like, dude, I don't know, man.
I just, like, I try to lose twice. Like, you can't get stuck back in. It's like a big joke here.
I don't know, man. It's super weird. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, it is definitely weird.
Dude, I got to get rolling here, but it was catching up with you for sure.
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, man.
You got my number and everything. Keep in touch. Let me know. And, dude, shoot me the pictures that you were talking about earlier. I think you said about the UFO or something like that. You took a picture of something. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Shoot me a picture of that. And, you know, before you get out of that apartment and stuff, I mean, if you get any good pictures and stuff of anything you're talking about, send them over to me.
Yeah, I will, I'll doggle. I got, like, to you my old phone. I know one of them has all those, you know, not had pictures on it. I'll shoot those over to you, too.
Yeah, man. That's what I'm talking about, brother.
man absolutely all right go take care
then later
later bye bye
