The Confessionals - 117: Gorilla Man, Doppelgängers and Demons, Oh My!
Episode Date: March 19, 2019On episode 117 we speak with Jim Harold from the Paranormal Podcast and Alika from The Confessionals artistic design team! Jim comes on to share some of his spooky experiences that keep him g...oing in the paranormal realm. Then we bring on Alika from Hawaii as he talks about seeing a gorilla man in his house, dopplgangers, evil reflects, shadow kids and much more!YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaINewsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterPatreon: www.patreon.com/TheConfessionalsWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3
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Now this week's show, we have two interviews coming on. The very first one we're going to listen to is Jim Harold from the paranormal podcast and many other podcasts. He comes on to talk about some spooky experiences that he's had. And then after Jim, we're going to have Alika, who is one of the show's artists who does the weekly show art. And he comes on to talk about different experiences that he's had, including guerrilla men, doppelgangers, demons, and many, many other things. I can't wait for you guys to hear what Alika has to say. So let's get into it right now.
Okay, today we have a great guest coming on. We have Jim Harold. Now, Jim, you have many podcasts. You have Campfire. I should say Jim Harold's Campfire, the paranormal podcast, Jim Harold's crime scene. And you actually just dropped a new podcast called Soulmate Stories. So Jim, how are you?
I'm doing well. I'm tired, actually. I'm doing well. And thank you so much for having me on the show. And congratulations with all of your success with the confessionals. Well, I appreciate that, sir.
I was really excited to have this conversation with you and just have you on and share some things and stuff.
But before we get into some of the stories that you'd like to share with us today, why don't you tell us a little bit about some of the podcast and stuff that I just kind of named off?
Well, back in 2005, before some of you were born, I started a show called The Paranormal Podcast because, and I was reading your bio, Tony, and it's very similar.
I was just really interested in this stuff.
And I had a broadcast background, ended up working in the business of media, but not in front of the mic, which is actually where I went to school for.
So in 2005, I saw all these people were doing this podcasting thing.
And I said, I'll try it just for fun.
Lo and behold, I did it for several years as a hobby and it started picking up steam and I was able to go full time with it in 2012.
And we have the paranormal podcast, which are interviews with experts and so forth in the paranormal supernatural, everything from UFOs, cryptic creatures, ghosts, the whole thing.
Then we have Jim Harold's Campiar, which is a show where regular people call in and tell their stories of the supernatural.
We've been doing that since 2009.
Jim Harold's crime scene where I interview experts and authors about true crime cases.
We've just recently had another Pulitzer Prize winner on that show.
And then the newest one you talked about, and I'm really excited about, and we're recording this.
I hope I'm not blowing anything here, but we're recording this on Valentine's Day.
It's called Soulmate Stories, and it's all about people's true stories of how they found their lifelong soulmate.
And I'm doing that one with my wife, Dar, so I'm very excited about that one.
And we have a whole slew of premium podcasts I do, but I don't even really get into those.
It's in similar topics.
but I always steer new people to the free shows, which they can find at Jim Herald.com,
or they can find on all the places you listen to podcast, Apple Podcast, Spotify.
We're at Pandora, as I think you mentioned, you're on now, all those usual places.
So we hope people do check it out.
And the Camp Fire also, we have five books based on the Camp Fire stories that we've gleaned over the years,
and I'm working on a sixth.
So busy, busy over here at the spooky studio, as we call it.
Yes, absolutely.
But you know what?
You're really on to something with the soulmate stories, especially.
I really love the idea.
There's something about people's real life stories, whether it's spooky stuff,
soulmate stuff or whatever.
When people get to come on and share what happened to them and how things unfolded
in their lives, a lot of people love listening to that kind of thing.
It just, there's something that people can connect to.
So I really highly encourage people to check out your podcasts.
And the new podcast, Soulmate Stories.
It's very, very good.
I've listened to it.
Thank you.
I love it.
So, Jim, you've had some odd experiences in your life that you'd like to share with our audience today.
Well, the thing is, is that I've not had like the prototypical ghost experiences, but I've had some very bizarre experiences as has my wife.
I'm actually going to tell one of her stories because I think you'll relate to it.
And I think it's a pretty cool story.
And then I'll tell quickly one of mine.
This happened back in 2001, and this was before I was ever podcasting, before really podcasting existed.
So it wasn't one of those things where it happened.
I said, oh, this will be a neat show for a podcast because, again, it wasn't even invented at that time.
My mother-in-law had been very ill, and she came for in-home hospice back to her home.
And I've been married to my wife for a few years.
We were a young couple at that time.
We had a little daughter who would have been almost two years old.
And my mother-in-law, you know, obviously she was going towards the end, but we thought we had some time.
And that particular evening that I'm going to tell you about, my wife was over there, and I think I was home with my daughter.
My mother-in-law kind of kept shewing away my wife, Dar, saying, you've got to go home, gym's there, your small child's there, you got to be with them.
And she said, no, I'll stay here with you a little long.
No, no, go home.
So anyway, we didn't think anything of it.
And she came home and we went to bed as usual, you know, 11.30, whatever time of the night it was.
And then I think about 1.30 or 2.30 in the morning, can't remember exactly which.
She awoke.
Now, I was asleep, but she jokes on, like, waking the dead when I'm asleep.
And she looked over my shoulder and she saw Mother Mary glowing,
standing on my side of the bed, and I was oblivious.
And the thing of it is, you need to know that Mother Mary was a big deal for my mother-in-law
because she was Catholic, and she would bring roses to the statue of Mother Mary.
It was a whole thing for her.
It was a big deal and very significant in her life.
And then almost as fast as it happened, I think it lasted about 30 seconds.
Mother Mary was gone.
She was smiling.
She said it was extremely peaceful and unlike anything you would see in any movie or artist's depiction.
So anyway, and she says this was not a dream.
She was fully awake.
She goes back to sleep.
She sleeps for an hour.
The phone rings.
It's my father-in-law.
My father-in-law doesn't even say hello.
He just basically says she's gone.
And my wife, you know, when you wake up and you pick up the phone, you're confused.
What's going on?
and he said she's gone. She said, well, who's gone? Your mother's gone. She passed away about a
half hour ago. And even now, I get kind of choked up thinking about it. And to me, that was my
mother-in-law sending that sign through Mother Mary or whatever the case was, is that she had left,
but she was going to a better place. Wow. Yeah. I mean, the idea of Mother Mary popping up
stuff. I've heard that before and it's always, usually, always connected with somebody's passing.
And I just, I find that very, very fascinating and stuff. Was that something that you guys kind of like
found comfort in when you found out that she had passed? I think so, yes. I think so, yes,
because it was kind of an assurance. Yes, she's gone from this physical plane, but she's gone
to a better place. That's the way we took it. That's the way we took it. I had another story that is not,
well, it's not quite as sweet, but it's cool.
About a year and a half ago, I was lucky enough to be asked to be a participant in a paranormal cruise,
where people would sign up and come to this cruise and meet me and some other people in the paranormal field,
Rosemary, Ellingylee, Micah Hanks, and so on.
I was very honored to do it.
So the one day we were at sea, and we were in the same.
And we were in this, they had a nice conference room and I had a bit of a cold, not a lot of fun when you're on a cruise, but I had a cold.
And I was speaking and I said, you know what, I'm going to in between sessions go grab some coffee just to kind of warm up the pipes a little.
So I walk out and it's right next to the casino for the ship.
You have to walk through the casino to get to the cafe with the coffee.
And one of the gentlemen who is an attendee, who was listening to our talks that day, is playing like this claw machine that has money in it.
Now, if you know those claw machines, like when you go to a store and they get the little stuffed animals and it's got the really polished claws where the stuffed animal falls off invariably, well, the thing of it was, was that had a lot of significance for me, those claw machines.
I almost stopped in my tracks.
I very specifically thought of my uncle who had passed in 2013,
and he had been like a second dad to me.
And for some reason, he loved those claw machines.
And he would go and he would try to win for my daughters or anybody.
He would try to win one of these things,
and he would spend, you know, seven or eight dollars trying to win a 99-cent stuffed off.
So he loved these things.
I thought about him very intensely.
And I said, you know, I wish he were here.
He would love playing that.
That would be so cool.
And I just thought about him very intensely.
And about two seconds later, this woman walks up side next to this gentleman playing this crane machine.
And she cups her hand to her mouth and she says, John, John.
Um, um, um,
ostensibly calling out to her husband or something she's with.
Guess what the name of my uncle was.
His name was John.
Now to me, and again, yeah, the skeptic will say that was a coincidence.
That was just something that happened, right?
I personally believe that was my uncle somehow connecting the dots and getting a message to me
It was like, hey, you're thinking about me.
I'm thinking about you, too.
I mean, it was just too big of a coincidence to be a coincidence, in my view.
Sure.
So those are my two stories.
So I think we live on.
I think there's communication that goes on.
And I know a lot of times when on the campfire we talk about a lot of scary stories.
And there's a lot of scary stories on there.
So people love that kind of stuff that can certainly tune in.
There's some of those sweet stories too.
And I think that it's like life.
Life is a continuum.
There's good and there's bad.
There's happy and they're sad.
and they're sad.
There's, you know, a positive influence.
There's evil influence.
I think the paranormal and the supernaturals like that.
It's a whole continuum and we try to cover it all on the campfire.
Well, that's awesome, sir.
That's awesome.
Let me ask you a quick question here.
With the idea of your uncle communicating with you and stuff,
is that something that you find in a lot of the stories that you hear on the show
with those kind of things where people are, you know,
they feel like somebody's communicating with them from the other side.
Is that something that's popular on the show a lot?
Oh, yeah, we hear it all the time.
And sometimes it's very direct and sometimes it's more subtle.
But it's there.
And it's usually the thing is it's in a very distinct way,
is very personal to the experience.
Or like that claw machine,
anybody else that would have meant nothing to.
But to me, I knew the significance.
So I think they know what will touch us and what will reach us.
and they seize upon that thing to get their message across.
Absolutely. I totally agree with you.
Before we get out of here, let people know where to find you again.
Jimherald.com.
That's j-I-M-H-A-R-O-D.com.
And they can find all the free podcasts, the books.
We even have an email newsletter so you can keep up with all the shows that cost zero dollars.
And appreciate the time to come talk with you, Tony, and the audience of the confession.
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So let's get to our second interview with Alika right now.
All right, today we have a great guest coming on.
We actually have one of our shows artists on the line today.
If you guys were to follow us on social media or on the website,
you would see the artwork that's custom every week for that week's show.
And we have two different artists that do that.
And one of the artists' name is Alika.
And he's in Hawaii and he's on the line right now.
Alika, how you doing, man?
Doing awesome, man.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing good, brother.
I'm doing good.
So you've had some crazy experiences that I didn't really know about it.
I mean, when we're talking about the show art from week to week and stuff, sometimes you
talk about, you know, what inspired you.
And sometimes your own personal experiences come up in conversation.
And we always talk about sometimes about having you come on.
And then you sent me a list of some things that you went through.
And we're talking about some doppelgangers, evil reflections and mirrors, little boy ghosts.
And I was just like, bro, I don't know how I never had you on the show yet, but let's do this.
And so here we are.
You've had some crazy experiences, man.
And I know we just talked about having you do it in chronological order.
So if you wouldn't mind, just kind of start off from the beginning with that little boy ghost.
Okay, so experiences.
And that's what attracted me to the show.
The deep interest in it happened in my life.
This is one of those many things, and this is probably the most consistent place, anything paranormal.
So this is my ex-fiance's house, caller D.
His fiancé's house, and she told me a little bit about it, that her house is a little bit haunted.
I did not know to what extent.
I started dating.
I met her house, and we had a little family lunch, so a little get-together, and some people had already left, and I'm all full.
I go into her room and take a nap.
is you walk into the front door, you see a big living room, a kitchen right behind that,
and then it's a straight shot outside to the backyard, big sliding doors.
And then on the right hand side is a long hallway with all the rooms, starting with the bathroom,
and then her brother's room, and then her parents' room, and her rooms all the way at the end.
I'm about 26 at the time, about six years ago, six or seven years ago.
The family get together.
I'm ready to go take a nap, I'm all full, so I go into the room to lie down.
I'm just starting to doze off a little bit.
She comes into the room, tells me she's going to go shopping with her brother.
They're going to go grab some food.
I was like, oh, okay, it's all good.
And so she walks out of the room.
And maybe about, I don't know, five or ten minutes later,
I'm still kind of awake and I'm still dozing in and out of sleep.
But I can still hear, I'm still aware of what's going on around me.
And I hear footsteps coming down the hallway.
and I hear them coming all the way down the hallway, through the doorway, into the room, and right next to me.
So I'm lying down on my stomach and my feet are to the door.
And so the footsteps stop right there, right next to me, next to the bed.
I'm completely expecting to stay, oh, okay, so we're going to leave now, or whatever, something.
I'm just expecting that.
And I hear nothing.
So I find it kind of weird and I open my eyes and I look next to the bed.
and nothing's there.
Nobody's there.
And I'm completely confused.
I didn't hear anybody leave.
I heard somebody come in the room.
Stop right there.
I get up and I'm thinking, okay, this might be one of her nieces and nephews that were
there for the family party.
Nobody's home except for her mom.
And her mom is just coming in from the backyard.
I look at her mom like, oh, is there to be around?
Is anybody else home?
She goes, no, just us.
Like, okay, so now I'm just, okay.
So now I'm sorry.
She told me Dee had left with a brother about 10 minutes earlier.
I have no idea what's going on.
So I explained to her what's happening.
And she proceeds to explain to me like, oh, okay.
So you met him.
Okay, so he just went to go greet you.
He must like you.
I was like, oh, who's he?
And then she tells me about this little boy ghost that's in the house, hunting this house.
And she, her first introduction to it was years and years before.
So apparently these parents, known of this ghost since they first moved in in like the late 70s, early 80s.
And so her first introduction to this little boy ghost was when she vacuuming the living room.
And so she just vacuumed.
You know, like how you got lines in the carpet when you vacuum, right?
Yeah.
So she had just finished vacuuming the living room.
And she went into the kitchen.
She, nobody's home except her.
She shared an experience and he hates talking about it because he's, he's, he's, he's,
He's old school generation tough guy.
You know, he's in the military, everything.
Like, does not want to talk about anything paranormal.
But he said, even he said one time, he was going to go use the bathroom at the very
beginning of the hallway, turned back to go towards his room.
And he sees a little boy, a shadow of a little boy right in the middle of the hallway.
This little boy ran down the hallway and disappeared.
Entity that lives there that I had no clue about, and apparently he likes me.
So that was my first introduction.
To the paranormal experiences in this house, she was telling me, you know, dreams about all of this stuff going on.
And there's other things there.
And she doesn't know what they are.
And I'm like, oh, okay, great.
That's cool.
But I don't know.
I'm used to this by now.
So I'm like, okay, I'm kind of interested.
This is kind of what I've been going for in my whole life where I always went ghost hunting.
Before as a younger guy, like, okay, I've hit the gold mine.
I don't have to go hunting for them.
I'm right here.
Like, they're here.
So we're going to have something pop off.
And so as they, you know, I was with her for about a year and a half.
So in that time, four other occurrences happened.
So that was my introduction to it with the little boy who.
The next one, the demonic doppelganger.
So this one really threw me off.
Yeah.
And the first, this happened, my introduction to that was, again, I was in the bedroom.
I was in her room.
and I think we're looking for movie times or something.
So this is a couple months after the little boy thing.
I think we're looking for movie times or something.
I was checking something on my phone.
And I wanted to go tell her, walk down the hallway.
And with my personal vision, if you're going down the hallway from her room at the very end,
her brother's room is about halfway down the hallway.
And he had his clothes hanging on the boulevard.
So all those clothes are hanging, and I'm walking down.
and I walk past his room, but out of my peripheral vision, I see these legs right next to his bed.
I turn and I go, hey, babe, so blah, blah, blah, whatever I had to tell.
I'm pretty sure it was a movie time.
And so I'm talking, what I think is her voice from the kitchen.
She goes, what?
Immediately because I just get this cold, this cold feeling, start from the tip of my head all the way down my body, this chill.
I'm like, ah, and I move the car.
clothes. I look up. I move the clothes. Nothing is there. Nobody's there. And legs standing right next to
her brother's bed. But nothing is there. And I'm like, I thought you're in the room. She's like,
why did you think I was in the room? I saw your legs in the room. And so she's just like, well,
I think you left your legs in the room, you know? Like, I totally freaked out and throw it off.
She's like, what? You saw me in the room. And so I walk out there. No, of course, once again,
Nobody else is home except for me and her.
And she then tells me, you know, it's like an onion.
Just layers.
Just keep coming out.
After everything that happens, more stuff keeps coming out.
And so she tells me she has a, what she called a dark, explains it to me.
And this is kind of like in my ballpark that I would spend a lot of time in because I had a lot of friends who were into paranormal and a cult and any which, which beliefs.
you want to choose.
I had a friend for every one of them.
And she was the same way.
And so she explained to me
what was called the demonic double
or a dark double, where
somebody, I guess
a psychic or had
told her that
he saw a double
version of her, like a shadow that was always
following her around.
And it was like a dark, jealous
reproduction
of her. So I'm like,
Okay, that could explain it.
I think all of that with a grain of salt until it happens to me.
Like, I am open to everything, but until it happens to me, I don't believe it.
You know?
Yeah.
So I'm like, okay, it's a pretty good indication.
Could have been a, maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.
Fine.
So a couple months go by, I try to forget about it.
And that leads to the, which is the demonic doppelganger in bed.
So it's not as fun as you think.
No.
It's not as fun as it's some.
But, so I'm in there.
I'm in her room again.
But we had gone out and we stayed out really late.
I think it was four in the morning by the time we got back home.
So, again, it's just us.
And so we're in her room.
We're sleeping.
I have no clue what time this was or anything like that.
All I know is out of dead sleep, I'm sleeping on my stomach.
I'm on the left side of the bed.
Out of dead sleep, I just...
shoot up into full awareness, into a full push-up stance.
That's how I woke up.
I woke up from feeling myself, pushed myself up into a full push-up stance,
and I'm basically planking in bed.
I'm in this state of terror and panic, and I don't know why.
So I'm up on my hands, and I look over to my right.
You know, so I'm just checking to see if Dee is still there.
So I look over to my right, she's line.
down and she's not facing me and she's so she was a Korean, Chinese, and Filipino.
So she's got this long black Asian hair, right? So she's, I just see that. Okay, she's
turned away from me. All right. And then I'm like, okay. And then I look back down,
straight down, and I see her again. And she's lying down on the other side of me.
And I'm like, well, what?
So my brain is not calculating.
So I'm looking down.
I see her lying there.
But it's like she's really, really close.
And so I look and I see at my hand,
I notice that my left arm is going straight through her head.
Yeah.
And yeah, I just immediately like,
understandably jump out of bed,
freaking the ass out.
And I'm like yelling.
I'm like, hey, wake up.
Wake up.
And she's like, what's going on?
What's wrong?
She wakes up out of a deep sleep.
And I'm like, I just saw you.
You were here.
And then you were here.
And I don't, I don't know.
I don't know what's going on right now.
I don't know what's going on.
He was saying that, like, in her dream that she was having,
she just came back to bed to lie down.
And I was like, this is, this is crazy.
This is too much.
So she had this dream that she was going through the hallway
and she came back to the room to lie down.
It just so happens.
I wake up in a dead sleep panic
and I see this apparition of an exact copy of her lying down next.
I had no idea what to think.
Wow.
Yeah.
But that was probably the most intense visual,
paranormal experience.
think it was because I had no expectation of it whatsoever.
It woke me up out of sleep.
I was already in panic and this whole thing happens.
And that will always be burned into my head.
I'll never forget seeing my left arm go straight through the head of somebody else that's right next to me on the other side.
It's so weird.
There's like a mirror image.
That one, that one totally, totally threw me off.
And the next one was an auto.
experience. Another couple months go by. And once again, me and D are at home by ourselves. We were
actually house sitting because some of the family had gone, including her parents, had gone to
Vegas. So we were a house sitting. And this is pretty late at night. We're just sitting out in the
living room on the couch, watching some TV. And so she's lying down. She's got her head of my lap,
lying down, and she's sleeping. And I'm just kind of petting her head. And she's
and I lie back and I'm starting to doze off a little bit.
So I lean back and just when I'm about to just go into sleep,
and I'm petting her head, I'm still moving my hand,
I hear clear audible female whisper right into my ear.
We're screaming.
And my eyes shoot open and I don't want to panic at this point.
I'm just like done.
like she knows already.
I'm pretty sure you're used to it.
So I'm just there like trying to calm down, bring down my heart rate and like put her head a little bit.
And the only thing I could attribute that to was her double.
And so I told her about it later.
And, you know, she was saying, yeah, because according to the person that saw that I had a double,
he said it was very jealous.
It was like all the negative, all the negativity in her, like, manifested into this other thing.
That was like her evil twin, I guess you could say.
Like, yeah, that makes sense.
She's jealous and maybe she wanted to lie down next to me instead of you.
I don't know.
Like, that was, that was super weird.
And so that event happened.
And that led up to the final thing.
that happened there, or at that house anyway, was the evil reflection.
And so that evil reflection was, that one sent chills down both our spines because it wasn't
just me hearing it.
It wasn't just me seeing it.
This time, it was me and her sitting there watching the same thing happen.
So there's another witness to corroborate, you know, so she told me about this mirror in a room.
She always had it covered.
And, you know, one day I asked her, oh, why do you always have it covered?
She said, it just gives me this weird feeling.
It just feels really weird when I look at.
It's like my reflection is looking at me.
I'm not looking at it.
Okay, so what makes you think it's a bad thing?
And so I said, okay, I want to take a look at it because in the past, starting in high school,
I just started learning about how to keep myself safe because I was,
I was, as a kid, I would get tormented a lot by these unseen things that I never understood
until later on in life and I understood what they were and how to manage and how to deal with it.
And so I had learned how to use that belief to keep myself spiritually safe and keeping things,
to keep things away from me or expel things out of the space.
And so I said, okay, maybe I can go and look at it.
Maybe I can get rid of whatever's there.
Maybe we can take that mirror back.
I don't know. Let's try it out. I just want to see what happened.
So she uncovers the mirror.
We both sit there in front of the mirror.
I get myself into this space where I'm open, you know, like where I can feel the vibes, basically.
Sounds super hippie, dipppy and woo-woo, but that's exactly what I did.
You know, I just sat there and tried to tune in, see what's going on.
So I'm looking at the reflection just to see if, you know, maybe I'll experience the she experienced.
So we're both looking at the reflection.
We're both trying to get into this state of being open to whatever is going on.
And I'm looking all over the mirror, just looking all around, looking at the wood that, you know, surrounding the frame.
And this is an old mirror, too. It's like an antique mirror.
So, you know, everybody's got this stigma about antiques that, you know, maybe something followed the antique.
My eyes are scanning the images in the mirror.
And it just so happens to scan all, I just get up to my own eyes.
I look down in my own eyes and me and D are looking at it at the same time.
And I just see my eyes look at me.
Because my eyes are, so it's weird, my eyes are still moving.
Trying to scan.
They're constantly moving around the mirror slowly.
But I notice that my eyes in my reflection aren't moving.
They're looking straight at me.
Wow.
And then I see this smirk.
I see this smirk on my face in the reflection.
And it's just the most evil look.
Like it looks like the eyes are looking straight through me.
And I don't know it sounds weird for me to say,
oh, I didn't see my eyes moving because who can't see their eyes move?
If you're not looking at your eyes, you can't see them not moving.
So, but it's just this gaze that is held and so.
stuck there and it's just like
it's looking through me
and the thing that set it off
was that smirk man
because I know I wasn't smirking
I wasn't making
any expression on my face
and this thing smirks
at me and I look
over at this reflection
and her mouth just opens up
and I'm just like oh that kid
that made me panic extra hard
because it's like in a scary
movie when the scary part comes
up and you think you've got it, but the person next to you screams,
and all of a sudden you want to scream.
And that's exactly how I felt seeing this reflection,
because she was totally shocked.
She, like, backs up.
She kind of pushes me and backs up from the mirror.
I was like, you saw that.
And she's like, yeah, I saw that.
It's smirk.
You weren't smirking.
I know you weren't smirking because I was,
and looking back at the mirror, I know you weren't smirking.
And I was like, yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't, but you saw that.
She's like, it was so evil.
I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what I thought.
And so we just immediately leave the room.
And did this say we got rid of that mirror pretty quickly.
Like, there was no expelling to be done on that mirror.
Just for it to look at me that way, like, I don't know, man.
I don't know.
I don't think you've got a handle on this.
Yeah, you might be in over your head a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, for chilling one.
I've never experienced anything like that where my own reflection is like, uh, is interacting
with me.
But it's so weird.
That's one of the freakiest things that I've, I've seen visually.
But number one definitely goes to the evil doppelganger right next to me.
That was that was the freakiest one.
Yeah.
And, uh, yeah.
And so she, she just had this, um, like she was a, I don't.
a person, she was a magnet for this kind of stuff. Because as soon as I started dating her,
she first started, you know, hanging out at my place before. She would always spend time there.
And I started noticing an uptick in weird activity at my house after I started dating her.
So one of those things, the first thing that happened in my house, we're like, we're dating
for maybe two weeks, two or three weeks.
And so she was sleeping at my house, and I was out at a party.
And she called me up at one in the morning, and she told me, or she asked me, like,
are you almost done with the party?
And I was like, oh, wow, what's going on?
I'm thinking in my head already, like, oh, no, she's insecure.
Like, we're three weeks in.
Like, we're two, three weeks in.
I'm like, oh, crap.
Oh, what did I get myself into?
So that's my first assumption.
She's like, okay, because I'm really freaked out right now.
I'm like, oh, okay, so why are you freaked out?
So she was lying down, she was sleeping in the living room.
And I had a fan in the living room, a standing fan.
And she said that the fan turned on by itself and oscillated completely one time.
And she woke up because she, of course,
heard the fan go off and um or go turn on and then she felt the the air and so she
turned around and she looked at it and it oscillated one full time and then it stopped and this is uh
this is one of those dial fans like you've got to turn the it was an older fan you have to turn
the dial to get it to turn on so it wasn't like a touch control nothing like that old school
fan and so i was like that's super weird so
It was about time for me to go home anyway.
So I went home and I checked out the fan.
I was like, maybe there's a surge or something.
I don't know.
Did anything else go off or did you smell any burning or anything?
She was like, no, I didn't smell anything.
So I checked out the outlet.
Everything was fine.
I'm mechanically inclined.
So I took the fan apart to go look, see if anything shorted out.
If one of the coils in the motor was touching a casing somewhere,
if something happened.
So I opened it up and nothing.
There's no sign of it.
And it never turned back on again.
It never worked again.
No matter what, there was no black burn on the plug.
There was nothing on the outlet to tell me that there was a power search.
Nothing else.
No reset clocks.
Because this was on, so one outlet was just for the fan.
And the other outlet had an extension cord from entertainment center and all that.
But nothing else was on.
There was no.
I couldn't find any reason for it
and my background was an electrician
I used to work for Pearl Harbor as an electrician
I was well versed with diagnosing and troubleshooting stuff
and it was just I couldn't find any explanation for it
so I thought that was really weird
and I was one of the weird things that happened
the first weird things that happened
when she showed up at my place
and the next
she wasn't home one day
she went back home to go
to hang out with their family.
And so I was at home alone.
And I was just getting down to sleep.
And the house I used to live in was a old plantation-style house.
There was a two-bedroom, all wood, on a raised house.
So the bottom is hollow.
So I was just getting down to bed.
And I hear what sounds like macho man Randy.
savage jumping off the top ropes and elbowing the ground.
Like, it was the loudest boom I've ever heard in that house aside for me dropping some weights
when I was working out.
And it immediately shot me out of bed.
And I had no idea what it was because sometimes, sometimes there's cats that would fight
underneath the house and they would like bump and whatnot.
Sometimes they would hit.
what would be right underneath the floor.
But I heard nothing like that.
I actually went outside with my flashlight to go look for anything that was going on underneath there.
Nothing.
There's no signs of any disturbance.
As you can tell us, they're kept fighting their stuff all over the place.
And there's a lot of dust and dirt.
You can see the footprints and all that.
But nothing, no sign of any disturbance.
And I look in the hallway, there's no marks on the floor or anything like that.
and it sounded like it was right outside the door.
Like this, just a giant boom.
So that was the second thing that happened when she showed up,
and I'm starting to notice a pattern, you know?
There's some weird stuff going on with this one.
And probably the weirdest thing.
So this is some of the bonus material that I didn't mention in the message.
So this one was probably one of the
The weirder
Experience I had with
You know what astro projection is
So I've heard other guests on the show
Talk about that a little bit
And so for people who don't know what it is
It's basically where
Your soul or consciousness
Leads your body
And you can travel
To other places
But in real time
And so your consciousness can observe things remotely without you physically observing it in your body.
So it sounds kind of woo and kind of out there, but here was my experience with that.
Dee was known as a natural traveler.
So she's told that by her crowd of her group of friends that, you know,
also told her that she had an evil double.
So she was a natural traveler, meaning that when she was a,
go to sleep, she would leave her body, her soul, her consciousness would leave her body, and she would
travel to all kinds of different places. And now things are starting to click with me. So she told me
this after the whole demonic doppelganger thing, right? So she told me all of this after all of that.
And I was like, okay, it's starting to make sense now, starting to click now, because she had a dream
that she was walking to the hallway and then lying down in bed and then i see this thing right
next to me okay so it's starting to make sense this night she had uh for the two weeks prior to this
she was having a rough time a real emotional roller coaster and um so she needed some space so she ended up
going to sleep falling asleep by herself in my room and this is at my house and she had fallen
is falling asleep normally.
You know, and by normal, I mean her head is on the pillow.
Her feet is where her feet normally is, how we normally sleep.
And you'll see why I mentioned that detail as a story progresses.
So I go to sleep.
She's already asleep.
And I end up waking up in the middle of the night, and I have this, quote, dream.
And I know it's not a dream.
And you'll see why.
So I pop up, I sit up, and everything is pitch black, but everything is strobing.
Like this super bright white light is strobing, and it's strobing in sync with my heartbeat.
And my heart is racing because I woke up in this state of hyper awareness and kind of, my heart is racing, this strobe is going off.
And I see all this stuff going on, and I'm wondering what else going on.
And so I noticed that I'm moving over and I can see my feet and I'm flexible, but I'm not that flexible.
And so curious as to what's going on now, because I'm looking straight down in my feet.
And I look to my left and I see that Dee is, her head is right there by my feet.
I'm like, that's weird.
And then I look into the corner of the room right by where Dee's head is.
And I see this thing in the corner of the room.
And it looks like a negative photo where everything that's supposed to be white is black
and everything that's supposed to be black is white.
And it's this, it looks like a monkey, like a gorilla man.
Just the facial features, just everything that it is.
And its pupils, its eyes are completely black.
Its pupils are white.
and it's staring straight at me
and it's sitting in the corner of the room
kind of hunched over
and like it's
almost too deep
it's trying to get to her
and it's looking at me like
what are you going to do about it
and I speak to it
and I noticed that my
my body
whatever it starts rising up
and I'm trying to speak to it
but I'm speaking to it
not with my mouth but with my mind
and I'm telling it to leap, get the F out of here.
And it's looking at me and it's giving me this look like, okay, I'm not leaving.
And so it's getting more aggressive and I just feel this super aggressive tone and facial expressions coming at me and everything starts strobing really hard.
like my my heart is starting to race now because it's i'm getting into a fight now and so this thing
comes at me it full on puts its arms and hands straight up to my shoulders like it's trying to
choke my neck and i do the same thing where i'm fighting it but i can't see my arms and my my hands
but i know i'm fighting this thing off so we're in this we're in this battle in my room
in this strobing environment
and I'm
trying my hardest
to fight this thing away
and I end up
pushing it away
and out my
like it goes through the wall
and out into my backyard
and I'm watching it leave
this whole time
but it's looking at me
it's backing up
and it's looking at me
like I'm going to come back
like it's saying over buddy
and it's just got
those white pupils
are just burning a hole
in my memory because I still see it backing up and kind of moving away but just staring at me
like this isn't over. But I got it away. So I got it away and as soon as I watch it leave and it
dissipates into the distance, I get sucked back into my body and my eyes open and I am like,
I'm in a sweat already. And now like my, I can feel my body. I see my arms and I know I'm in my
body.
I'm like, oh, and I wake up and I, and I, um, see that B is lying down exactly the way I
saw her in this quote unquote dream.
She is, uh, her head is where my seat is at.
And so I was like, okay, that wasn't a dream.
And I, I wake her up and I just ask her, can you please lie down normally?
Can you please just, just put your head on the pillow?
She's, oh, all right, I don't know.
She's groggy.
She doesn't know why I'm waking her up.
the middle of her sleep.
But the next day, I tell her about this whole thing.
And she was like, you know, I couldn't sleep.
I couldn't really sleep until he told me to put my head at the pillow.
I didn't even know that I turned around like that.
I was like, okay, so you weren't, you weren't sleeping at all before.
She's like, no, I was just, I kept waking up and going back to sleep.
I was having horrible nightmares.
And then after you told me to, after you woke me up to tell me to put my head on the pillow
and that I was sleeping the wrong way,
then I could,
and I slept through the whole night.
I was like,
huh,
that's weird.
Okay,
so one was a,
was a super experience that I had.
Yeah.
Nothing,
tops,
nothing tops the double that,
that doppelganger.
I don't know,
man.
I don't know,
because what you just said and stuff,
I'm just like,
my jaw is dropped.
I mean,
I'm just like,
I mean,
that thing had,
like you were talking about
an onion earlier
with that relationship.
you know, it's like everything was an onion where you peel back another layer.
I mean, that story was like an onion.
I mean, it was like you had so much crap going on there.
Do you think that that, whatever it was that you were having this, for lack of better terms,
a battle with, do you think that caused your experience?
I think so.
I really do because it just, just thinking about the connections between the appearance
of this thing and then.
how everything was only black and white,
how I could only see everything in black and white,
and this thing was like a negative,
it looked like a negative photograph of a person.
There's consistency there.
And I feel like maybe,
maybe it was calling me into its dimension
or something like that to fight.
Maybe I woke up and the only reason I could fight it off
was because I had actually projected into its dimension
where I could see it.
You know, like, there's a lot of discussion about how maybe Bigfoot could be interdimensional
or how graze when there's abductions, how they can be on a different plane because they can take you through walls when you're abducted by them.
It's like they're different.
They can control the vibration of whatever's going on in this material plane and maybe they can travel through dimensions.
And so that's kind of my theory with ghosts.
entities, demons, that they're always around, but we can't interact with them if we don't have the
same vibration in the same way that polarized lenses can cut out glare because it's got, you know,
the light can only enter in certain directions. Maybe that's the way our consciousness works,
where we can only see what we see as we do because that's all we can accept.
And maybe some people have different lenses that they can see other things through.
And I feel like that experience was a trip into a different, with a different lens where I could, I could see it.
I could interact with it because I'm in its realm, where I'm interacting with it as an astral body or as a consciousness, not as a physical being.
And, you know, I just hear things about how you have in it abductions and they see.
that they speak to you telepathically.
And that's exactly the same way this thing was speaking to me, telepathically.
And that's how I was speaking to it.
And I've never done that at all in my life.
Like I've never spoken to anybody telepathically,
but somehow I knew how to do it.
And I was,
I was interacting with this entity without words,
without any physical, actual hard physical touch.
So, yeah, I think,
I think it's totally connected to what happened to that whole event.
Did anything ever happen again since then?
Like, did you ever feel like that thing returned to, you know, like you had that feeling
it was kind of come back or it was telling you, like, I'm going to come back.
Did you ever feel like it did come back?
And did you ever tell your girlfriend what happened?
Yeah, yeah.
I told her about it.
I told her what happened after she said, you know, how she was having a hard time sleeping.
and I explained the whole thing to her, and she was, she's pretty freaked out.
I mean, understandably, to think that you're the object of some demonic entity or aggressive
entity's affection, you know?
Yeah.
That's not very, very calming or settling at all.
And so she was bothered by it, but I told her, well, I fought it off, so at least I can,
I can do something about it, you know, so I should feel safe, at least marginally with me.
So I told her about that.
Something else happened after that.
So connected to that thing.
I was told by one of my other friends that are into this whole thing, all of this
caranoma stuff, and he told me that that entity is now,
outside in the yard.
So it stays outside now.
I guess I kicked it out and I kept it out,
but it still looks into the house.
It still does things, you know,
like through the windows and whatnot.
It still will mess at me.
And, you know,
I've had little weird occurrences in the house
where something would be knocking on the wall
and it was like,
it sounded like somebody's knocking on the door.
Sounds like a person.
It doesn't sound like a branch.
There were no trees that were touching my house, nothing like that, but it sounded like something was knocking on the wall.
And it would do it only when I'm alone and when I'm about to fall asleep.
That's kind of always when stuff would mess with me, even as a kid.
And so there's that.
There was a little knocking on the wall, but the real thing that bothered me and that scared me, but yeah, it just bothered me was.
when I started dating my now wife, she had a son before me.
And so he was about two years old when I met him.
And we were about a year into the relationship.
And he was sleeping over.
And so he wanted to sleep in this little fort that we made in my second room.
There was my bedroom and there was a second room.
So he ended up going into the room, and he had never been afraid of the dark, really.
Even now, he's not really afraid of the dark.
So I found it really weird that he was sleeping in that second room, and me and my wife, we were outside in the living room.
And he ran outside, just terrified.
And we were like, what's going on?
He couldn't even talk.
he was just crying profusely and he couldn't really put any words together and by this time like he's three years old so yeah we expect that but he could he could articulate his thoughts to us he could he could speak to us in a way that we could understand at this point so he couldn't speak he was just panicked and terrified and he finally calmed down and he took us to the room and he told us that somebody was coming through the window and
And I was like, what?
And so we were there, and I stood there, and I was looking for anything, like, anything that would look like something coming to the way.
Like, maybe he was mistaken.
Maybe it was shadows.
But, you know, I remember saying stuff like that when I was a kid and nobody believed to me.
So I want to believe him.
But I want to make sure that, you know, it's a real concern.
Maybe he was mistaken.
I don't know.
So I'm looking around
and my wife,
she's standing at the doorway
looking into the room.
The light is on now.
So she's standing at the doorway
and I'm looking around the room
for anything that it might be.
And she screams.
And once again,
it's like that us being in a,
we're two people in the scary movie
and I'm not panicking,
but as soon as she screams,
I'm going to get,
I'm going to scream.
I'm like,
oh, what, what's going on?
So she screams and she goes,
there was a there was a uh uh there was a uh there's a face in the curtain and i was like a face in the curtain
and i look up and i'm like i don't what is going on and she goes there was a face she calms on
there was a face in the curtain i know this is going to sound super super weird like now i'm imagining
things but the wind came through the curtain and there was a it looked like somebody's head
was coming through, like trying to come out of the curtain.
And I was like, no way.
She goes, no, I could see a head.
I could see a face.
I could see this big, like nose, like nostrils.
But it looked like a gorilla.
And I was like, oh, my God.
So I make the connection there.
Wow.
That I can't say for sure that it's the same thing.
Jacob, my stepson,
he sees this thing he tells us he sees like a man trying to come through the window and it's just big
coming through the window and then my wife as we're trying to look for this thing she sees a head
coming she sees the form of a face behind the curtain like it's trying to come through the window
and i'm just like okay so i guess it's not over then so that was the uh the only
anything that happened after that. And we've moved out of that house now. Now we live in a different
place. But that was the last thing connected to that entity that happened in that house.
Wow, man. Dude, so do you think that entity was strictly connected to that house or was it to
the ex-girlfriend and she kind of brought it to that house? I mean, that's crazy that your
wife and stepson saw what you battled.
during your out-of-bought experience.
Right.
And it freaked me out.
And I don't know if it was just connected to D,
or if it was, or if it's connected to me.
So a little backstory on that house that I used to live in my old house,
that house is on a lot.
There were three houses on that lot.
The house I lived in was all the way at the end,
all the way at the back of the lot.
and then my mom lived in the middle house,
and then my grandpa lived in the front house.
Now, when we first moved into that lot,
it was just my grandpa that had a house in that lot.
My grandpa lived in my old house.
He lived in the house that I was living first.
So that was when I was like five years old.
He moved into that house,
and he lived in that house until I was about 15.
And then he moved into the first house.
Now, when I was 20, I moved, oh, sorry, when I was 24, I moved into that, that house that, that my grandpa first moved into.
Now, when my grandpa was living there and I was a five-year-old, I would play in the yard all the time by myself, but I would always feel uncomfortable whenever I was around this orange tree that grew in the yard.
and that orange tree
like it gave us
sweet oranges and all that stuff
like nothing was too weird about it
but I always felt
like something was watching me
when I would play by that orange tree in the yard
and so I always avoided that area
I wouldn't really go by there
when I was playing outside by myself
and
so the same friend that told me that
I had I guess banished that entity
out into the yard
told me that it was hanging
out by that orange tree.
And that window
that my wife saw
the face come through
the curtain or trying to come through
the curtain, that window is directly
in front or the
orange tree is directly outside that window.
I don't know if it was connected
to me or if it's connected to
that house or that
land.
Yeah, that's something, that was a question
that I always wondered about.
But I don't think it's connected to me because it never followed me.
It's probably not connected to D, but if I connect all the dots now,
maybe it's just connected to that land, that house.
Well, Orange, you glad you moved out of that house.
I am.
I am glad.
Want, wamp.
But that was my, that was my, pretty much my childhood home.
That was the only home I really.
knew and it was only consistent place that I really had because I stayed on that, I was on that
property from five years old to 30 years old. I was there for about 25 years. Dude, man,
those are some crazy experiences, dude. Like, why is it that when I do this show, I hear all
these crazy stories? And I'm the one that doesn't ever experience anything. I just hear all
the stories. I'm like, I mean, I don't think I want to experience what you experienced, but my Lord,
My lord. Have you ever felt like you were going crazy when you had some of these experiences?
When I was younger and that's why I really, I really connected to the interview from the last show,
this most recent show that just aired, the Dark Guardian. I really could relate to him because
he talked about how he, no matter what, where he was.
went. Like, he was always tormented by something and, you know, a lot of people in the house didn't
really believe or listen to him or anything like that. And growing up, I had a lot of experiences
like that. Like, I remember one time sitting in, um, in my room and one of my older houses, I,
I moved around a lot as a kid. So in one of the houses that we were, me and my mom were
staying in, I, um, I remember sitting there and just being completely in a state of
panic and fear to the point where I couldn't move. I was frozen and I'm just there huddled up
like my knees to my chest sitting on the bed and I just felt like I was surrounded by something
that wanted to hurt and I would sit there and I grew up Catholic so I would pray and I would say
the Helmarin and I would say they are father and just basically all the penance prayers that I learned
in confession.
And so I would just say those things and it would go away.
But I would have to be in a state of desperation until it went away.
And I would try to tell my mom about it.
But my mom does believe in this kind of stuff.
But at that point in time, she was a young mom.
And at this point, I think I was nine years old and she was 26.
And so she's a single mom and she's got way more concerns than me feeling, feeling scared in my room or in the room by myself, you know?
So she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, just go to sleep.
And, you know, I get it now as an adult.
Like, okay, yeah, it's not much of a concern to you and you've got all these other things to worry about.
I get it.
But as a kid, I was like, oh, like, nobody believes me.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm crazy.
you know, like, so I always wondered about that and I, and I just spent a lot of my life, just
wondering what all of this stuff is. And so I really relate to that last, that last show.
Yeah.
The Dark Guardian show. Yeah. And this, I was, I was stillborn as well. So I was born
dead and I didn't come back to life to like maybe 10 minutes later. And it's,
just that the doctors didn't want to give up on me.
Like I wasn't,
I was completely suffocated by the,
by the umbilical cord,
but when I was born,
I had no vital signs whatsoever.
Like there was no faint heartbeat.
My entire body was black,
blue,
purple,
all these different colors because there was no circulation going on.
I had no heartbeat,
no brain activity.
Uh,
I wasn't,
of course,
I wasn't breathing.
And the doctor just decided,
like,
he just didn't want to give up on me and he would try.
And so he tried for 10 minutes.
and I came back to life.
And ever since then, my mom told me that story,
and I would always wonder about a time I was like maybe five or six years old,
like, what am I doing here then?
Because I had a concept of death and life and had a concept of a soul
and because I was raised Catholic and I learned about all of that in school.
And I would always question like, okay, so why did I come back to life?
and how did that
affect me?
And I don't know, I always wondered that
and as I got older, I started
running into a lot of people who were
into this kind of stuff and
they could tell from right away, like,
it would always tell like you've got one
foot in death's door already.
So it's like you're kind of halfway in between
and I guess, you know, from time to time
I would be able to interact with all of these
things that would happen.
And maybe that's why I experienced the stuff I experienced.
Like when I was younger, I could see stuff.
But I would, as I got older, I purposely tried to cut that out of my life because it was
just causing too much weirdness, you know?
So that relationship with D that I had was the thing that brought me back into this
world.
Because for several years, I had just completely cut paranoia.
and spirituality out of my life.
Everything was just, and money, and just do what you got to do.
Don't complain.
Be a nice person.
That's it.
Nothing else to life.
All this stuff is just coincidences.
Let it go.
That relationship kind of brought me back into the world very forcefully.
Yeah.
Because of all the things that happened.
And I had to start asking these questions again.
Wow.
That's incredible, man.
Absolutely incredible.
do you think that this whole, I don't know, endeavor that you've been on with the show is almost destiny then?
I don't know.
Absolutely.
Dude, I mean, like the way we met, you weren't a listener of my show initially.
Like, I mean, we met because of the Vegas shootings and stuff and your one post went viral.
And I contacted you asking you how you are getting a hold of all the people that were there.
And that's how the Vegas shows even started.
Like, we did what, two, three, four of them.
something like that where we have people coming on that were actually there. And the first show was
put together because you were connected to these people because your post went viral. And then we
build a relationship. And now you're working with me on the show. I mean, it just seemed like it
was destiny for you to kind of get involved in the show and stuff. I mean, what are the odds of me
finding you because of a viral post that went viral and contacting you. And then from there,
our relationship actually building you being an artist and also being involved and enjoying
this kind of content. It's just crazy.
Absolutely, man. I completely agree.
And as a younger man, I never believed in destiny or fate because I just felt like, no,
you make your actions, or you make your destiny for your actions.
And I still believe that. But I also believe that there is some, there's like an underlying
script here somewhere. And I feel like, um, the only time you recognize that some,
something is destiny is when you can look back at everything and see the opportunities that you
took to allow things to fall into place the way they have now. And so I believe in destiny,
but I believe destiny only happens to those who are aware of the opportunities and they take
the opportunities and actions necessary to fulfill it. And yeah, I completely agree with you.
And I remember listening to your show after you message me,
and I wanted to just hear what the show was about.
I remember listening to it, like, oh, this is so cool
because I'm listening to these stories and I'm seeing all these things in my head.
And I just wanted to draw them out and just showing you, deciding to show you like,
yeah, I listened to your show and I drew this picture.
And I just wanted to share it with no expectations at all.
Like, I just wanted to show you what your show is doing for me.
And it's pretty cool that I get to express myself creatively.
And I have this awesome material, these visuals that are coming through.
And it just moves into this.
And I feel like if you hadn't taken the opportunity to message me and ask me about the
post that I made about the Vegas shootings, none of this would happen.
And if I didn't take the opportunity to just, yeah, why don't I just draw it out?
Why don't I send it to you and just share it with you?
and not be afraid of like, oh, what if he doesn't think it's nice or whatever?
Like, just show it to you.
Just share it with you.
And if I hadn't taken that opportunity, all of this stuff, all of these steps were necessary to get here.
Yeah.
So I completely believe in it.
Absolutely.
Dude, I mean, when you, when this, it's so crazy because the way you just said that, it's funny because you would send me sometimes, you know, pieces you drew after hearing the show.
and I used to think, wow, this is really good.
But I was always, like, kind of shy to ask you to help with the show because I didn't want you thinking that I was taking advantage of our relationship.
And so I remember the one time, like, you sent me some artwork and you're like, if you ever need help with anything, just let me know.
And I was like, well, actually.
And then it turns out that you and I subscribe to the very, very same philosophies on how to, you know,
you know, cross-promotion and working with people and giving. And it's just like,
it was like we were meant to work together. Uh, I mean, even down to, you know, our go-to guys
when it comes to like business philosophies and stuff. I mean, it was just like everything
clicked on all levels because, uh, you know, we're just pretty much the same person. Even,
you know, I look at pictures of you. I'm like, we even kind of look the same. So.
Yeah, man. You're like a taller Puerto Rican version of me. And I'm like,
A smaller Hawaiian version of you.
Got the same bald head.
We got the same beer.
Yeah, pretty much the logo is you.
Yeah, yeah.
When I wear the, what do you say that?
Because when I wear the sweatshirt, you sent with the logo,
when I wear that out, everybody asked it, like,
oh, so you're just going to wear a logo of yourself?
A little narcissistic, huh, buddy?
Kind of fool yourself.
I'm like, no, no, this is a show.
My friend Tony.
He runs a show.
like, oh, oh, okay, and I show them the picture.
They're like, dude, you guys are like twins.
Yeah, it's funny.
It's funny, man.
Like, I was just looking online today, and somebody said that I looked like a well-known
big footer.
And I'm like, how?
It doesn't even make sense.
He has a full, beautiful head of hair.
He's white.
I mean, I said, I'm Puerto Rican, a lot darker than him in bald, and I can't even grow
hair like that.
So I don't know how we look the same.
Definitely, because I'm Puerto Rican too, but I'm way less Puerto Rican than you are.
Yeah.
But yeah, we have that same silhouette.
So, yeah, the logo was basically us.
Absolutely.
One of us, pick one.
Absolutely.
Dude, I appreciate you coming on and sharing these stories, man.
I feel like this was something that should have been done a long time ago, and I do appreciate you sharing with us now.
Oh, yeah, man.
No problem.
No problem.
I've got a ton more.
So if you ever need an interview, I'll let you know.
We might do a sequel at some point.
Please.
That'd be so awesome.
I love sharing these stories.
Well, that's short, buddy.
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