The Confessionals - 119: Anubis Is Coming

Episode Date: April 2, 2019

Anubis was just the beginning for Mel. The life that she has lived you would not wish on anyone, and she comes on The Confessionals to share it all. From a consistent haunting of Anubis, the Egyptian god of the dead, to abductions and other hauntings, our guest Mel seems to be one of those people who has a magnetic attraction for paranormal experiences, whether she wants to or not!YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaINewsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterPatreon: www.patreon.com/TheConfessionalsWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail]: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3

This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. But the giant moves, he's got a... spear in one hand and he's running really fast and spears Dan holds them up like this somebody else shoot him in the face shoot him in the face they basically decapitated

when he got about feel something pulling at my leg and I look over and there are two small gray entities and they're literally I'm getting pulled off the bed I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster Yep. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here.

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It definitely means a lot to me that you guys are willing to support the show by leaving those reviews. Now moving on to the Patreon shoutouts, this is for people who go to patreon.com forward slash the confessionals and sign up to become a patron to help support the show on a monthly basis. And this week we have Maya P and Sasquatch colluded with aliens. Thanks so much for going to Patreon.com forward slash the confessions and signing up to become a patron to help support the show. It means a lot to me. Now this week we have Mel coming on and Mel starts out with talking to us about anubis and how she's been visited by this entity her entire life. But then the conversation molds into a lot of different paths.

This is a deep wormhole we're going down today for the next two hours. So strap in, get some popcorn, get a drink because you're going in for a ride right now. Let's go. Okay, tonight we have Mel coming on. Mel, how are you doing? Great. How are you? I'm doing fine.

I'm doing fine. So we were just sitting here talking a little bit about some of your experience and stuff. And I can tell it's going to be pretty intense show tonight. So, you know, it's listener discretion advice. I guess. Yeah. But, you know, you have an interesting story here because you've been visited or at least have seen Anubis-like entities most of your life.

And if anybody that is listening doesn't know what Anubis is, you can Google it. Just type in A-N-U-B-I-S, Anubis. And you'll see what we're talking about. And you'll see the classic Egyptian figure of like a wolfhead on a huge. body. That's what we're talking about tonight. In modern times, we might even call him a dog man, you know? So, Mel, you were a young child when this first happened to you. Just start walking us in through some of these experiences of seeing an an nubis-like entity. Well, as a child, now, I'm also adopted, too. But I, the time that I remember, clearly, I was about nine. And I'd been

waking up before that too early in the morning about 4 o'clock and I would hear seagulls. I grew up in Seattle and this was in just a funky old house in Seattle and I would wake up upstairs in my bedroom and it felt like there was like a difference in the air pressure, a difference in everything like in the gravity even. I mean it was almost like everything had motion to it. And before I had seen him, I would walk downstairs in the cabinets in the kitchen. There were those kind of ugly wooden 70s cabinets would go. They were kind of moving. They were all moving almost like there's this air coming through them.

Well, the time that I remember when I saw him, I went to the foot of the top of the stairs, ready to go downstairs. And I saw someone walk past in the hallway. So I went downstairs towards the kitchen. And full-on Anubis was in our kitchen. He was looking, he was just looking around, and he acknowledged me. And I just, I stood there in the kitchen too, and he was, he was looking around. And I felt calm. I was not scared.

And like I said, it was like he was doing, when I think about it now, it was like a child welfare check, you know, like a caseworker would do or something. It's really strange. but he was just kind of looking around, taking note of things, it seemed. And that's what I remember. I remember, you know, he wasn't, his eyes were not glowing. He looked, face, I mean, just acted like a person, you know, no growling, nothing like that. But he was just checking things out. And I don't remember what happened after that, but he was, you know, I could tell he had some authority.

So he was walking around there like he belonged there. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Like he had the right to be there and he was checking things out. Wow, that's interesting. And how old are you again? Nine. About nine, yeah. Now, as a nine-year-old, when you see something like that,

are you able to gauge and even remember how tall and bulky this thing was? He was not bulky, but he wasn't very skinny. He was just, he was, he would have been taller than a person, I would say maybe definitely over six feet. And he was standing straight though. He wasn't leaned over. But he was standing like a person. He wasn't like an upright dog completely. I do not know about tail or anything like that.

I don't remember anything like that. I just remember he was conducting himself like a human being. and he had a face, you know, like anubis is supposed to be a jackal, but he had a face like he wasn't super furry, you know, I don't remember the fur, I just remember he had a face. He had a snout just like, you know, anubis is depicted. I find it interesting, first off, that you experience this, and what you're describing really does seem like what you see in these old pictures from Egypt. Did it have clothing on or was it not clothed? He must have had clothing on. I was thinking about that and I don't remember it being like Egyptian. I would have remembered that. But he,

I don't remember thinking he's naked. You know, I don't remember that and I don't remember the fur. I just remember his face. And like I said, his eyes weren't glowing. His eyes were like, you know, a person's eyes, but his face was completely like a dog's, I mean, long, very long snout and upright, not hunched over. And just, I mean, he looked at me and he didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. But, you know, he acknowledged that I was there. And he, I remember he was turning his head and looking around at things too. And this isn't the first, or this isn't the last time you saw this thing. That was the first time. You know, when you saw this, uh, you, I forget how you worded it, but you referenced the idea that you

really, it didn't, didn't seem like you were sure how that whole encounter ended. Uh, was it something that like, you just woke up in your bed or you're walking down the hallway and you don't remember ever turning around to walk away from it? How that, like, what, I don't know, that can you go into more detail about that? I was fully awake. It, I, I, I didn't like, wake up in bed after that, I was fully awake. I think I probably went back upstairs, you know. I had the impression that, you know, he was, he was checking things out and that, you know, it was all good. And, you know, but I was awake. And before that, I'd been awake to, you know, nights before that before I'd seen him, I was waking up at the same time. And I suppose, I probably went back

upstairs, you know. And if I'd fallen to sleep after that, I'm, you know, I really can't remember exactly what I did, but I do know I was awake. It wasn't a dream. Yeah, I mean, even if it, even if you thought maybe the possibility of a dream, uh, the fact that it's happened throughout your entire life. I mean, at some point, you're like, okay, I'm not dreaming this, you know, uh, it's a little bit more serious. Uh, so that was the first time that you experienced it. Did you tell your parents at all or anything like that? No, no, no, I didn't tell them. And I've told people as an adult, too, you know, I told people later on about things.

And my friends and I together, I mean, we had, there's a place called Green Lake that was by where we lived in north of Seattle. It's a man-made lake. It's right in, like, the city. And I and my friend were walking around there late at night, and this is probably like when I was 13 or so. and it was really late, too late for kids already to be out. And we walked under some trees. There's a little pathway that goes around the lake. And we walked under these trees and we heard very calmly,

someone say my full name. And let's just say it's an unusual name, but I'm going by Mel. So it was like, Mel, it was just like a very calm, like it was right over our head. And my friend heard it too plain as day. And I always felt that was kind of connected with it. and, you know, I talked to, I mean, my friends, you know, I talked to them about things and stuff,

but I didn't, I didn't really talk to my parents about any, you know, any of this. Now, is it because you didn't think they'd believe you, or was there something, you know, about it that just scared you from talking about it? Do you even remember why you didn't tell your parents? That's the thing. I'm trying to, later on, you know, I talked to my mom. mom about it later on. But things, I had been, I was adopted and I went into foster care for a while, too.

So I'd been off and on and I didn't, I felt closer, I guess, to my friends. Yeah, I get that. That makes sense. I mean, especially coming from your situation and stuff. I totally understand that. So that was the first time. what happened next? I mean, how long of a period of time was it between the first experience and the second experience? Well, the other experience that happened in 2010, there was,

I'm talking about ones that I know I wasn't dreaming. And the other one, I'm in New Mexico right now, not Seattle. And that happened in New Mexico in 2010. And I was, and I was, was riding a horse out in a wildlife reserve, a game reserve. And this is where it was different and there was like a different emotion. I saw somebody walking and I thought they had a big coat on and they were far away. And then my horse noticed this too. all of a sudden, they were, like, right next to us. And that was also not, now when I said it was a different, I know it was a different one,

but this was like an older. And I guess you could even say maybe more like skin, you know, like people say like skin walkers too. There was something about, I really felt this one was like human, but definitely a dog face. And just looked very sad, not, I mean, no, not. Nothing threatening, but I looked this one also square in the eyes, and it was like human eyes. You know, I mean, it was definitely understanding very human eyes. And it just, I got the impression of it being very sad or maybe even disappointed, like, in me.

I don't know, there was something very sad. And my horse was aware of this entity, too. and she backed up and that was it we were off so that was that was one another time

that I can mention you know I've things that aren't that interesting that I could say I mean it's been something

my entire life before the first one I told you about two I think I just sort of assumed there might be a possibility when I was really young there was

underdog cartoons I'm that old and you know I mean, they're upright walking canines. But I kind of assumed that. And also, you know, in Seattle, the University of Washington, the University of Washington Huskies football, you know,

the husky is the mascot. And they did cartoons of an upright walking husky who wore clothes. And I used to draw that too. I drew a lot of that. I really liked that cartoon of the upright husky, you know. Like when the game, when they won the game, he would be all triumphant and when they lost he'd have like a broken leg or something and they you know this cartoonist drew this every week so I think I just I don't know I've never really

been shocked by things because I've kind of had them happen my whole life I mean other things too besides seeing you know upright canines but that in New Mexico where where I'm now was an experience that I did tell a lot of people about too, and I've had a lot of people tell me about things that have happened to, you know, similar. And that's the thing. I think this happens to a lot of people, but they just don't want to sound like a crazy person, you know? I mean, that's the thing I really believe this happens to a lot more people,

and what I'm going to talk about later is the reason I really wanted to talk with you, too. and then other things happened before the first time I contacted you that make it even more, you know, make me want to communicate this to others. The time, the last time I saw one, was in Tukwila, Washington, which is, you know, it's right by the airport in Seattle, and it was with some others too.

And I decided, I mean, I already knew this was a spiritual creature, and I would say full-on demon, and not that it has to be violent and scary to be a demon. I mean, demons can be quite calm, and demons can look like people, too, but I did, I saw one, and he was with people looking demons, too, and that was in Tuck Willa, and he didn't say anything, and he was first, first, he was first, he was first, I mean, and there was others, too. There were others. There was one that looked almost like a dog, too.

But that's, I should get more into the whole story about that because that took a while to happen. I've been seeing shadows. This was, this actually was last year, 2017. And it was in October. And I'd been seeing a lot of shadows around the apartment, which was normal. I mean, I've seen this before. We've had a lot of things like this happened before. in what they call shadow people,

but like little shadows darting around too, like cat size or even smaller. And I was also seeing something in the corners of the room. And my son, he had mentioned a couple of things too that he thought were kind of strange, but my husband hadn't seen anything. And it almost, I don't know, there was something going on in the apartment.

And now it's going to sound, even crazier, but when I was laying in bed, I would see almost like this sketchy, like, pattern. It was like in the corners of the room. And, yeah, it would be in the corners like this sketchy like pattern. And it was like, it was almost like cobwebs. And then I would see something, and I'm not scared of spiders. You know, rest are my phobia.

But spiders, no. But it looks like a spider that would crawl out of the corner and like kind of like in a real, almost mechanical way, go across the ceiling, like towards where I was sleeping in the bed looking up at the ceiling. And I was like, oh, boy, this is weird. And I was not taking drugs. You know, I didn't have any medication that would cause any, anything like that. And since then, I've studied this a lot because I should also say, too, I was not raised Christian.

I have not read the Bible. since then I've read parts of the Bible, and I've learned a thing or two about this. I've learned that, yes, it does stop if you call on Jesus, and if you say, you know, I'm by the power of God, and you plead the blood of Jesus. I've learned so much about that, and I feel like God has opened my eyes, and I'm not, I mean, the first thing I wouldn't have thought of before was demons. You know, I was not raised with any kind of Christian education whatsoever, you know, and I had no idea. I mean, my eyes last year were open.

But that quickly became worse. It wasn't just little spiders, you know, going across the ceiling. I knew there were other, I would see flashes with people, which I've seen before. And I thought, ghost, okay, that makes sense. You know, there's ghosts. And it doesn't even have to be from this building. There can be ghosts around here. It's a heavily populated area.

You know, I'm seeing normal people-looking ghosts and flashes of them. This was after I saw like shadows. And I would see something like it looked like somebody was walking quick down the hallway. And I also, I would notice things. It was like, wow, did the blankets move? That was the weird thing. I had a bunch of blankets packed up. And they looked like they had moved somewhat.

And nobody else was there that would have done that. My husband would not do that. And one evening, I knew, I mean, I've always trusted my gut. And I knew that there was somebody else in the apartment, in the back room. It's a two-bedroom apartment. And we ended up putting our bed in the front room because we had this big fireplace and it was really nice and it was in the fall. So I was in the back room, which I just had a desk and some bookshelves

and a bunch of blankets folded up. It was kind of cluttered, I guess, but clean. And I knew I was on my computer. Okay, I was on Facebook. And I knew someone was there. And it seemed like they came from the closet and with this big walk-in, L-shaped closet. And I don't know what I was thinking. And, oh, okay, I have to do disclaimer here.

I did have tea drinks of vodka that night, okay? Not enough to get drunk, but I had two drinks. So I was feeling friendly, I guess, and maybe silly. I don't know. But I just, this is a big mistake. you need discernment with this and this is what I should not have done that's probably started the whole problem

if I said hello I said hello I know you're there and my husband was like in the front room watching TV and I was in the back on the computer and I was like oh somebody is here

and I know it was a female and I said hi and I was like okay there's a ghost here and I'm not afraid but this is interesting and I was like well there's more than one and I did not see them yet. And there were, there were three, there was a woman and two men. And I basically said hello to them. And after that too, that was it for that I did not see them. When I was taking a shower,

I would hear music. And this can happen to people through like medical reasons, you know, people can hear music when they hear running water, you know. But I'm a musician. And it was, I heard somebody singing and it wasn't my voice. You know, it was a lot better than my voice. But it was a woman's voice singing. And then I heard my name. And now it sounds, this is where it starts to sound like, oh, maybe she's schizophrenic.

Because it sounds, it totally sounds like a schizophrenia episode. It was very strange. And my name was mentioned. Some very personal things were mentioned. every time I take a shower. And I was like, wow, I saw them. I saw her. And she was, there were three.

And for me to be, if I was going to imagine anything and also to like impress upon me or for me to like, I don't know, it's kind of funny that they'd be three Caucasian looking. I mean, they're like three Caucasian, um, dress kind of modern peoples. And, um, she said that. her friend liked me. There was these two guys, and they were dressed kind of hipsters. I mean, just three of them. And it was really strange, and they had kind of an, they acted like they kind of had

an authority, like they were there, and they were there before me. And I did not think demons at first. I thought, okay, ghosts, maybe something tragic happened at the light rail. We're really close to the light rail station there. or, I mean, it just, to me, it seemed like, okay, three ghosts, okay, big deal, you know. And I was like, it seemed a little strange. There was something weird that they would, you know, they must have known if they were there that I'm married. And, you know, it just, it was strange.

I mean, they seemed to, like, know things about me. And now it sounds totally like, okay, this mimicked schizophrenia or whatever, you know, because when I, what happened next, and it kind of reminds me of actually a movie that's out now, this was before the movie was out, but I had an allergic reaction the next day because they had said something because she, I heard the singing a lot,

and that was strange of like, okay, voices in my head. I should not tell too many people this. My friends know I'm not, you know, that it's not a medical thing or something because we've had this. I've had experiences. with my friends before, too. And I, you know, I don't do anything to cause anything occult to happen to me,

or at least I didn't think I did. I didn't know why I would be having these spirits visit me. And, of course, then I did not know to discern and say, you know, do you know that Jesus, you know, I mean, I did not know how to protect myself. So I ended up that day, I felt really strange. I had an allergic reaction. I gave myself an epipen shot. And I ended up, I mean, I could feel this.

My lips are swelling up more than usual. And my tongue. And I was like, okay, I'm going to go. We live really close to the hospital to Highline. So we went to Highline, and I was thinking maybe I need another EpiPen shot. You know, I wasn't that worried about it. I deal with allergies. and kids who have allergies.

So in the hospital, I was just waiting there to make sure because it makes your heart kind of jittery when you take a shot of epinephrine. So I'm sitting on the little examination table all by myself. Nobody else is in the room. I'm fine, really. You know, I mean, I just checked in for that and we were going to go home if everything was okay. And right behind me, where there was no room for a human to be heard of growling, right behind me. right behind me on the examination table. And there was a growling.

It was a male-sounding growl, and it was pretty wicked sounding. And I kind of went around, and I was like, what? You know, because I hadn't heard the, quote, ghost, unquote, growl at me yet. And it was so strange. I got off the table. I looked around at the back. I said, what are you doing? You know, and I shouldn't, once again, I shouldn't have been talking to spirits.

And then, I mean, I was kind of, I'm glad nobody else was looking in on the room then, too. But I looked around and I just, like, looked at, I stood up and I just decided I wasn't going to sit down there again. Then I heard a little growl. And then this is the weird thing. It was, male voice said, and it was almost like a haiku or a short poem. And I was thinking, okay, fiery. Now, I might not say it exactly right, but. He said, the fiery fox lays on the hot rocks.

And when I looked at it later, maybe he said, lays under the hot rocks, but he said that. It was a male voice, and it was finished off with a little growl at the end. And I thought about that later, and I wrote it down. I was like, I think that's exactly what he said. And I was thinking, first thought it was like, Firefox, Missoula Firefox. What? You know, so I looked it up. I was thinking, does this mean anything?

What is this? And the Urban Dictionary, there's something about a fiery fox. It means a girl who's outspoken and fiery. But I don't know. I mean, I don't know why he said that. It turns out that was one of the spirits. Because later that night, when I came back, they would, like, talk with each other. And the girl, it was really crazy now.

Tony, this is where it sounds weird. and this might be where I got into real trouble too, you know, because that night, too, I purchased. It was like a little shop packets and a little plastic thing, a vodka, and I should not have been drinking. And it wasn't a lot. It wasn't like, it was basically like one stiff drink. But I told my husband about this too. He's like, I don't see them. I don't see them. I was like, well, I do. And he believes me, you know, he knows. He just knows he doesn't see them. And after that, he did hear a lot of things that he couldn't explain.

But they seem to, I was like, okay, these guys are squatting in our house. It's like we have these ghosts in our house, and I really don't want to deal with them. They're kind of pompous, and they're kind of being jerks, and one of them supposedly likes me. And that night ended up one of them, two guys and one woman, and the two guys were, in a little conference together, I guess, from what I saw. And that's the one thing I realized, too, is I was like, this was like late at night. And my husband works early in the morning and he would be asleep when some of this was happening and it was like happening right there. My dog was, would acknowledge them and did not bark at them. He acknowledged them. I have a German shepherd. And

it was really strange, but they had been calm up to a point where these two guys were were talking and I guess they were talking about me and the woman said too, well, I mean, they were having like some kind of little drama in between the three of them. And she was like, well, you're too old. I don't think it's going to work out. I'm like, what? I don't even, why is happening and why it's in my apartment? And I don't, I have a lot of stuff going on where it's like this was really,

It felt like these people just moved in, you know, or spirits just moved in. And it was upsetting enough, you know, because I felt like I couldn't even use the bathroom or take a shower without the possibility that there was a spirit right there. And that was really strange. I mean, it just felt really invasive. And the guy, the one guy who I guess didn't like me went over to the TV set and told me that I basically needed to, I needed to die. And I was like, what? I was like, he goes, well, the sins, you've heard of the sins of your fathers. And he had said some other things, too, but he literally pointed at this PV set, or I should say, what do you call him the flat screens, you know, a Shiba flat screen?

And he pointed at it. And this is where it gets really strange. He pointed at it. And then after he said sins of your fathers, and then he said, you know about, um, you know about, um, I said Mary's little lamb before that. He said something about the lamb. Now, I don't want to misquote this, but he was talking about the lamb.

He pointed out the TV set. All of a sudden, this horrific picture comes on our flat screen, and it's of this disgusting mutant like, not a lamb, but like a sheep or something. This sounds crazy. Two heads, and underneath the sheep, It was almost like kind of flat looking, and I had two heads, obviously a demon. Beneath it was two boys or young men.

Like Lane, they're almost like this thing was covering them like a sleeping bag, except the two heads were gnawing on these younger, like, you know, two young men. And below it was like almost like this sing-along song, and it was just total blasphemy. I mean, it was this vile and it was strange. That's when I started to realize everything and everything started to click together. Like it took me, it took me that long. But I got angry. I got very disgusted and angry.

I was so repulsed by this. And it was just so sickening. And like I said, I wasn't a Christian. And I didn't know anything, but I knew enough to say, hey, you know, this is, I know what you guys are. And this is, you know, this is some BS here. And then I basically said, you know, get out. I didn't say in the name of Jesus. I didn't say, you know, anything like that because I didn't know better.

I said, get out, you know, get out. This is crazy, you know. And I said, get out. And I was like, I need to, because I was writing up a parenting plan for my youngest child. And I was like, get out. And the guy said, what? I said, well, I went to New Mexico. I have things to do.

Get out. and he turned to me and he goes, the one that didn't like me. He was shorter with lighter hair. He said, no. And I remember the way he said no. And I was like, okay, this is not a human spirit. It was the creepiest no I've ever heard in my life. It was extended.

And he didn't growl, but it was creepier than that. And it was just, I remember the look on his face. And it was just so evil. And I was like, yeah, I am going to New Mexico. And he just smiled at me. like, okay, you guys, this is, oh, if you can hear in the background, sorry, that's my child I was going to see, which I'm in New Mexico now, so I guess they were wrong, and that's my 11-year-old in the background, shouting with joy. But anyways, I just, I was just disgusted,

and I was like, no, no, and I saw, and that's when I was talking about the, quote, dogman, unquote, he was standing back there. They were standing like in the kitchen, and there's like a little nook and stuff too. And he was with a full assortment of different demons. And we're talking demons, all shapes and sizes, demons from, yes, your standard dogman. Now, this guy, his eyes were glowing. And their eyes were not glowing. It wasn't yellow and it wasn't red. I'd say it was more almost like a light orange. It was, their eyes were glowing, though. And they were all, they were very calm. Nobody attacked me. They were all standing there, like they were waiting for some kind of word on something.

And I just looked around and she had, she had a dog about the size of my dog, too. And I had been seeing, I mean, I can see them. And this was not a dot. It was on all fours. And then there was another one there too. And this is what got me. I started looking closer at them too because what I've been talking to were three very human looking.

And they say demons don't have bodies. These guys just look like average. and like I said, average white hipsters. This one demon, I noticed that it had, I thought it looked like a dog is about the size of like her dog. And it had a face that had like a human mouth to it. It had really big eyes that weren't dog's eyes. It had sloppy ears unlike the other dog, which looked more like, you know, like an American Alsatian, the larger German shepherd, like a wolf. But like the American, you know, Alsatian, it looked like kind of larger wolf.

and this one had little, like deer hooves almost. And on its back, it had what looked like almost riding like the way a jockey would ride, like hunched over. It looked like a charred child. And I'm not kidding. I'm totally, like I said, I did have a little bit to drink. Full on saw this, though. I saw this as well as I could see and I was talking to these guys, you know.

And I would tell them too, I said, I can hear you guys. Because when the two guys were talking, I was like, I can hear you. you guys. And I kind of, I kind of just wanted to block it out and do whatever I had to do to make sure that I wasn't going to be haunted for a long time. And when I basically said, okay, out, everyone out, you know, I mean, I was just like, no, this is not cool. And my breath, I could do my breath too during this time. And now I realized, too, I was in, and to me, it's as real as now. And I've never tried to go into the spirit realm. But we live, I mean, there's so much around us.

There's so much around this that, I mean, here, like right, you know, like where we are. It's not like up and it's not down. I mean, it's like here. It's just people don't see it. And, oh, it's real. I basically was like, okay, party's over. And then everything happened. This is where it just kicked into such a scary thing.

This is where I had my, quote, alien attack, which is. basically a demon attack and it's of the mind. I mean, this, of course, didn't really happen. But I thought I was going to be abducted by aliens after that because all of a sudden I got rushed by three, and it wasn't the people I was talking to, three tall, glowing eyes. I got rushed by them. There were like things like leeches. I mean, it was like this full-on mind trip that I found out that this is something that does happen to people where they get considered crazy, you know, or they end up checked into a hospital because it is frightening. And there's something, I don't know if it's infrasound or what,

but there's something that makes your heart raise and you feel this great unease. And when you're around demons, you do, you feel nauseated, uneasy, panicked. And my life, I know what panic is and I know what fear is. And I've been abducted. In 88, I was abducted in New York. I was actually held captive, you know, at Dunn Point. I was stabbed in my leg. I was assaulted, but I wasn't raped.

And so I know, I mean, I've been through a lot of things in my life that are kind of unusual. So I know fear. I mean, I know things. I know how to, like, survive things. This blew me away. It was so horrible. I, and, but like I said, it was something demons can do that.

They can make, you know, they can instill fear in you, make you feel unsettled, make you feel just horrible like you're, I mean, there's something to that. They can really set the mood for you. So I basically had a pretty big flip-out session, and I thought it really was happening, okay? And if I had known before, if I had known any of this before, I would have stopped it by, you know, saying, you know, by pleading Jesus's blood and, you know, saying, you know, using discernment, which I've had. And I'm thankful for that gift. I just never, I hadn't used to it yet, really. And it was bad to the point where I'm not the one who ever calls the police or fire truck.

I tend to like, okay, I'll go to the hospital or I'll drive someone there if I think that something's wrong with them. But I don't like to make a big production about something. I called the fire department because literally my feet started vibrating. And this is the most, this is the frightening thing that I had to talk to a priest afterward. about too because I was like if I'm going crazy which I really don't think I am because you know I was reasoning things I'm like this hasn't happened before why is this happening my legs were like vibrating to the point that I was scared I was like I felt like I was almost like ethereal enough that I could be taken away I mean I'm not kidding I felt like I was too much

in the spirit I felt like maybe it would look like I just died of like cardiac arrest or something, but I was thinking, you know what? I think something is really going on with me physically. And during that time, I was scared to death. I saw basically what you see during an alien attack. I mean, I saw a whole bunch of stuff that wasn't like the demons I had seen. I mean, it was, it was a demon attack that felt like an alien, you know, abduction. So I thought, I was like, okay, before I really lose it. And I have the text from that too. I texted. My sister. I was like, I don't know what's going on. This is so crazy, you know, and she was, she was asleep at the time.

She didn't get it till the morning, but I was, I was really afraid. And I texted my eldest son, too, and he thought it was a practical joke I was pulling on because I've never said anything like that in my life. And he didn't get it until the next morning, too. But I called the fire department because I thought, okay, this is, I'm not going to have this happen. And if it's really happening, then at least there'll be somebody to witness it, you know, because the other thing is I could not get,

it was like Billy wasn't there, and that was the scary thing. I mean, I think I went too far in. You know, I just became too much, I was too engaged with these, you know, with them, and I got pulled in, and I ended up going to a highline again. And I was really freaked out at the time.

In the morning, I felt a lot better, and I was so embarrassed, but I was like, I was scared. I was really scared. I, you know, like I've learned since then, too, it's kind of like, I'm thinking, maybe this is missing 4-1-1. Maybe this is what happens to some people. You know, maybe there's something where they're just in a different dimension, you know,

and maybe they don't come out of that, or at least spiritually they don't come out of that, and they end up just dying and then someone finds their body, you know. But I went to the hospital. And I was like, I'm sure getting a psychiatric evaluation now because I want to make sure that, you know, that I know what's really going on. I have too much to lose. You know, I can't have this happen in my life. This is too crazy. And I ended up talking to a priest and I don't even go to a church.

I went to the Catholic Church closest to me. And I talked to the priest and I said, you know what? after I was in the hospital and stuff. And I ended up and she was there, the woman was there in the morning too. And I heard a voice and I was like, okay, I'm hearing voices in my head. This is classic schizophrenia. I talked to the priest and he said he had heard all of that. When I went home and I took a shower, it felt like the shower was moving.

Okay. I mean, when I went to the apartment, I felt dizzy and I was like bumping into things, not drunk, but it felt like the floor shifted on me. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is scary. You know, I just felt really kind of, it felt really fragile. And it felt like sometimes a earthquake too inside my apartment. When I went to the church, talk to the priest, I felt that same vibration in my feet going up me. And I felt really, really nervous.

And I was like, whoa. And I told him, I said, you know, right now I feel it. And he's like, yes, you know, he had heard all of this before. I said, even when it feels like there's an earthquake going on where I live, and even when I'm outside the apartment, too, it feels like things shift. And he's like, yes, yes. And it's not being possessed, but it's called oppression. You know, to me this was, like, amazing.

Of course, I got some holy water, and like I said, I didn't go to that church, but he said that he would come by and bless our, you know, apartment too. So I looked into a lot of things I learned about, you know, I said a lot of spiritual warfare prayers. I was scared to sleep there at night. And this, you know, I was like, I wanted the evaluation I was getting like in, it was almost two weeks. So I was like, oh, I want one right away, you know, but getting a psychiatrist, you know, I mean, it kind of, it takes a while sometimes. And, you know, I was just so afraid.

And the thing is I talked to, I actually talked to my ex's parents who are really high up. I mean, they're well-known in the church, the Catholic. And I told them to, and they're like, okay, first, because they talk to their priest. You know, and he said, this, make sure you get an evaluation just because just for your own, you know, well-being, too. because they don't know how to deal with it. I mean, that's the one thing. The church, there's not exorcists in Seattle, I learned. You know, there's some people you can pay a lot of money to outside of that.

But the Catholic Church is not prepared, you know, and I even found an old article, too, that said they needed that, and it's starting to increase. There's a lot more activity, I guess. But, like I said, I was just, you know, it's kind of oblivious. so I was scared to sleep there at night because I would feel these vibrations and I would hear and like I said with the music too I would hear that in my head you know so it was like okay this is so horrible I don't want to be crazy you know I don't want to say anyone's crazy who has schizophrenia I mean well it's a mental illness and I am so my heart goes out to anyone suffering from that and I I think I don't want to say anyone's crazy for schizophrenia I mean well it's a mental illness and I am so my heart goes out to anyone suffering from that and I feel really, maybe I shouldn't say kinship. You know, I mean, I'm sure they've been through worse.

But I just, it must be so horrible, you know, to deal with that more than once, you know. And it, I was sleeping in my husband's truck. I was sleeping in my Camaro at the time. I would just drive out because I realized it seemed like there was more activity around 3 a.m. and I would literally just drive down International Boulevard and go to like an all-night restaurant, you know, because I didn't want to, I didn't want to be there. My husband sleeps at night, like he's out, he's really out.

And if you wake him up, he's not really quite himself for like a good 20 minutes. So a couple of times that it happened, I just, I felt very, I felt like it was not a good idea for me to be there. And I didn't even know about territorial spirits. I did not know that it was that area too. And not that they can't follow you out of that area, but there's something about that area. And I, one night, I went out to the car and I was so exhausted.

I just fell a truck. I went out to my husband's truck and I fell asleep in a truck. And I had the car heart over me. He adds a big old carhart jacket over me. So nobody could see. They just think there was like this little lump of a car in the driver's seat. And of course, about 2 o'clock in the morning, I wake up to this kind of fluttering sound and these lights and stuff. And in our apartment, well, it's like these townhouses kind of in a parkway setting,

and there's these tall fir trees. So it looks like these, this light shining through like tree branches. It was like this fluttering light. outside in the parking lot, it's really dark. There's not enough lighting for it to be safe for people, you know,

for like human, you know, problems, let alone, you know, supernatural ones. And I woke up, I kind of peeked over the jacket. I felt fluttering and, like light fluttering. And then I heard voices

and this is so crazy. But I was away, not dreaming because I drove that truck. I heard some voices and complaints. Like, there's like a group of people talking to each other. And I was like, and I'm sorry, Tony, I haven't told you everything like with the alien attack thing because some of the demons, okay, some of them literally look like flying monkeys.

I'm not kidding. Some of them look like, no. Yeah. Yeah, they look like flying monkeys minus the wings. I'm not, yeah. And it was really weird. I'm talking all different types of creatures. There's ones that look almost like leeches.

all these weird different types of creatures. And since then, I've heard that, I guess that's kind of normal. They're all different shapes and sizes, some of the most grotesque things. Some look like gelatinous blobs. Really, there's just like very individual-looking creatures. I have heard that. I've heard that there's alien-type entities that look like prey manis, even, what do you call him from Star Wars, the big hairy guy, Chupac.

Oh, yeah, he's a good guy, though. Yeah, but, yeah, but yeah, there are ones that look like that. I didn't see any that looked like that or look like Sasquatch. I didn't see any. And I've had, that's the other thing we can get to, too, is I grew up in the Northwest. And, yeah, we're very familiar over here. but I didn't see anything that looked like that, but I did see something that I only saw the bottom part too

was almost like it was hanging in my kitchen. It was like this dark draped thing, and it didn't touch the floor, but it was almost like the ceiling got in the way, like the ceiling cut it off. And after I decided to ignore it, and I was going to ignore all of them, I would still see like flashes.

And if I looked into like this old like TV set that my sun used, used for like gaming and stuff is like the old it was on our flat screen it was like the old last kind i could see them and they were almost like imprint on the wall so there it was like they're still just hanging out and waiting or they left their imprint there it was really creepy but during this okay i'm in my husband's truck i wake up at three o'clock in the morning or about then and i hear this like chatter amongst them and something runs under the truck like really that scurries on their truck, so it had to be little, because this is like a little Ford Ranger.

And it pulled on the, I had locked the handle, pulled, it like hit, hit the door and something pulled on the handle. So these weren't like humans at night, like, oh, yeah, there's some girl asleep in her truck. It's a high crime area where I live. It's known for that in tuck will of the light rail. So I just put the truck into reverse. It's a stick shift. I just put it into reverse. And I heard that.

They're like, oh, she's there or something in perfect English. Or maybe I heard it in my head. But you know what I'm saying? It was like they were like this little gang of them and not just like three. But it was like the rest, the little motley crew of the other people, the other critters. And I just like backed out in my husband's truck. Not good with the stick shift, sadly. But I just tore out of there in reverse, screeched out of the lot.

And then I just like drove and drove and drove. and drove and then I had to get gas and I drove some more. And then I heard her voice and it was always like a song and she was singing about what they were going to do to my husband because I wasn't there. What were they saying that they were going to do to your husband? They were going to kill him instead and why did I do that and why, I mean, it was really weird in like this sing-songy way. And I was like, okay, this just sounds too crazy to tell anyone.

But the thing was, I shouldn't say it at that time. time at that time, I was deeply fearful. I'm like, oh, my gosh, no, they can't kill Billy. You know, I was like, no, not that's his name. But anyways, and I don't, people who know me, they know that, you know, I'm cool with that. But I just was like, so I was worried about him, you know, I was worried about him. And I was like, okay, I got to go back there. I go back.

It's, this was on a weekend. And my husband's sitting there, you know, I come in. and I hear her voice. And I looked at Billy, I was like, okay, he's not dead. He's working on something. He's working on some woodwork or something in this little a cloak by the kitchen. And the kitchen had like this little bar on it from there or what would be the dining room into the kitchen. And I saw her like, and she said something.

She said, uh-huh, you're home or something like that. And I was like, I thought they'd be, I thought he knew then too. And he's like, there's nothing here, Malim. There's nothing here. Well, after that and after that night, he heard one time he's like, what's the dryer doing? He's like, and he came in, I was like, the dryer's not on. He's like, oh, and he admitted to he heard growling. And then he heard it again one time too, but he never saw anything.

He also heard one night he would hear sounds. but I was seeing all this stuff, so he wouldn't, I mean, did you hear that? I was like, yeah, I see it and I hear it. But he was, you know, he would hear things on occasion. Our neighbor left us, she wrote a little note to us, tape to our door asking, because I guess we went home at the time, but she was like, do you know, do you have that smell in your apartment too? And she's like, I don't know, I can't get rid. It's the worst smell I've ever smelled, you know? And she, I didn't smell anything, but my neighbors smelled something so foul.

She had the guys, you know, the maintenance people check it out and they couldn't find anything. And she thought something might have died in the walls. So you're in this apartment building. How many apartments are in the building? Okay, their townhouses in a park like setting. It's so it looks like these little, there's some, okay, there's one, two, the only second, they're only two story. And we are on the main floor, you know, the,

ground floor and then there's some in front too so there's in ours there's four and then there's like a little maintenance thing too but they look like they look nice but they're not um but they're more like you know like they look like little townhouses you know and they're some of them i think have six and then some of them are like four two-bedroom apartment with like fireplaces they're supposed to look like little houses okay so she was on the ground floor next to us We shared a wall. It seems like there's a lot of activity going on there, but you also had this activity going on before you move there. Always, yeah.

Yeah, so, I mean, do you think this is a you problem, or do you even view this as a problem, or do you consider yourself as somebody who is more sensitive than others and just sees these things? Well, a long time ago when I was in foster care, I was in a Christian home. It was through this agency called the burden bearers. And they weren't, they, it was born again Christians, I guess, but they weren't, well, the guy wasn't the nicest person. But I went to church and there, I like heard someone talking tongues and stuff. And I was told I had interpretation.

Later on, I heard it was discernment. So maybe I always could see things. I don't know. I mean, it's something that I'm sure I could lose, you know. I mean, I've learned sense, and it's all something that God gives us, you know, to be able to discern and to have our eyes open to what's really going on. But I think I always would see things. I do have to tell you this, step back before I full-on met these guys, these three demons and their buddies. We lived in a house that was like it was, well, it was 100 years old.

the house that I saw, we've always had old houses before this, like, apartment we lived in. We owned one in Black Diamond, and then we lived, we rented them in Seattle. And this one house, I, one night, I was sleeping right next to my husband, and I had, I guess, you call astral projection, you know? I mean, basically, I felt, you know, it wasn't a dream. I felt myself slip out, and I had woken up before where I felt like I was, like, touching the ceiling. too, but I've always had that where I kind of like slip out of, you know, myself at night, even as a kid. And I did that. And it was really strange.

And I was like, wait a minute. I tried to, like, shake myself back to, like, waking up or to get back. Because I remember it felt like I kind of like slipped off the bed, like through, like down through the basement. And everything was, you know, I guess in the spirit realm or whatever. And I kind of. shift myself out of that state. But at the time when it happened to me, it felt like when I was sliding off the bed,

like I was kind of gently being pulled off the bed. And so when I... But you felt like you were being pulled? Not pulled violently, but like I was flipping off the bed, but kind of like, yeah, I felt like I was getting help with it, you know? I felt like someone was very gently sliding me off. Yeah.

I mean, not like grabbed and pulled, but like sliding me off perhaps with a blank. I think it too, but just very gentle. And when I woke up, I heard this might be the same person. The growling one is, and this happened before that, the growl of, I want you. And that's what it said. I was in a growling, very low voice, I want you. And this slow growl.

And I just, I woke my husband up. I said, did you hear this? and he didn't hear anything and I just I actually posted something online because I was trying to figure out what was going on and this woman told me too

and this is okay this would have been in 2013 I think because these are important elements to the story and I'm sorry I didn't say this before but I when I posted this you know the woman asked me I think she asked me my blood pipe

I was like, well, I'm oh, negative. And she's like, oh, well, you know, of course, you know, they're going to, she's like, well, I think she said, like, you're tasty to reptilians or something. It's like some people, I don't know, there's different views on it. But I was really thankful for the input people gave. And this one guy, I think he's a pastor in some other state, said, give me your address. I want to send you some books. He sent me like five books. It was a really sweet man to do this.

And it was called Demons in Disguise, the alien, you know, like the fake alien attacks. He sent me all this stuff. This was before this happened. Of course, I thought I was too busy to read all the books. I read a couple parts of some of the books. But afterwards, after what happened to me now is like, wow, if I'd only read all of this before. But he just, free of charge, he sent me all these books after I posted this one, you know, question about what happened to me.

And so, Tony, what I'm trying to say, I'm sorry. No, it's fine. It's fine. I think now that I look back on it, that could have been the same, one of the three, the one that liked me before. And it's still the same territory. That house that we rented, that I want you, and a slow growl occurred to me when I was out of my body experience.

I think that's the same one that, you know, growled later on at the other apartment. And I do think it is, I do think it's kind of a personal problem. I think I have a problem. And like that other one said to me, too, you said the sins of your father's, you know. And he said, I mean, basically that was why they had the legal right to me, I guess, or something. No, they don't have a legal right to you. They don't have a deal. but don't buy you're so right and now oh now I'm really spicy about that yes thank you I've

had so many prep talks and I'm to the point where I would love to help other people once you know I'm not so scattered about things once I'm more settled about stuff I believe because I've been doing it and my husband was like he's like wow there's no flies now he's like after I you know I said I you know by the power of God and in name of Jesus Christ, you know, command all, you know, I say, get out, you know, everything that's evil, you know, and all demons. And I've gotten really good with it. I have my little spiritual warfare prayer list on my phone and Psalm 91.

You mentioned that to before about a man having it tattooed, I think. Yes, that's very powerful. And so is the one for, you know, well, anything where you call upon in. And Jesus' name is the most powerful, powerful weapon, you know, and having faith, too. I mean, no holy water, nothing else. It's about having faith. And that's one thing for the first time in my life. I got this strength from, you know, I mean, it's nothing.

I mean, I'm like nothing. But I felt the strength. I felt like the power, you know, of the word. I'm sorry. Did you happen to listen to this past week's episode. where I had the guy come on and he was sharing about his abductions. I might have heard part of it. I think my husband listened to it.

Well, towards the end of the interview, he was talking about how he became a Christian, and these things haven't happened since the lost time, the abduction hasn't happened since he became a Christian, and he's actually kind of like he wants to test his new power almost of claiming Jesus over it. And I told him, I said, you're talking like you have superpowers right now, like the confidence he was talking like,

and that's how you sound right now. You sound like you have such confidence, like you have a secret superpower weapon that they just can't touch. And that's the thing, and it's nothing to do. It's having faith. The power is from God, you know, and that's the thing. Just like gifts of discernment, it's from God. It's not, I mean, we're just like, what do they say, like blades of grass, you know? I mean, we're basically, but we call upon, I mean, having faith, and that's, you can move mountains with faith. I mean, that's the whole thing is when you feel that and you really, you know, and that's the thing I know now. And I do.

I feel like it is, but it's through God, you know. I mean, it's completely, it's amazing, and that's the thing. And that's the only thing. And people have said it before, too. And like I said, I mean, I didn't go to church. I wasn't a Christian. You know, I've been in a really bad Christian cluster home, or quote, Christian, unquote, foster home. But, you know, I didn't have any background on this, but when I, you don't need it.

And, I mean, that was, I've learned too, that was what Jesus did, is he cast out demons. He worked with the poor, you know, and he didn't, I mean, it doesn't seem like a lot of churches really take to that. they don't understand or they just think you're crazy, you know, or, I mean, it's like, no, demons. We don't talk about demons and get that evaluation. No, it's, and I did. You're right. I'm sorry to cut you off, but you're absolutely right. It's like, you know, a lot of churches, not all churches, but a lot of churches operate

almost as if they're scared of these things. And let's not talk about it because we don't want to attract them. It's like, hold on a second. Whose team are you fighting for? You know what I mean? Like, do you realize who? Exactly. Do you realize who your team captain is, you know?

Yeah. And that's what Jesus did. And he said that, you know, I mean, he wanted us to do it too. And that's, we don't need somebody really fancy doing it. Or even, I mean, we can call upon, you know, we can do that in the name, you know, and by the power of God, we all can. You know, I mean, that's the thing. We can do that.

And they say about self, you know, like, you know, we were told to do that. and that's why, I mean, I just, yeah, I feel so empowered. I feel really empowered by that, and I'm so thankful, and I feel like, I'm going to start crying now, but Father's Day, I was like, to me, it was like, wow, you know, I was like, I do feel what I have a father, you know? Yeah. I mean, I feel like we all do, but I was just like, I felt so loved, and after this experience, and there's more, I should tell you, because I was actually, there's no reason.

I mean, my husband was like, how did this happen to you? I got smacked so hard from the front and from the back, almost like the car ran into me and then something hit me from the back when he was, my husband was like right behind me. He was locking up his truck, and I was walking towards the apartment door, and something hit me. And it wasn't, like, oh, maybe there was somebody on a bike or something. Well, no, they didn't hit me from both directions. And it felt like my nose, I mean, I had like scrapes. I had road rash on my face, almost like it was cement, but there was no cement there.

It was like dirt and some grass, you know. And something hit me from the back, too. I mean, I've been physically hurt one time. This is really crazy. And, yeah, I've seen this in movies afterwards, too. I went to Bartell drugs to get my prescripts. to get my prescriptions for doxy-sacling. And I went there.

This person came up to my car and, like, banged on the window and wanted some money. And I was like, I'm sorry, I don't have any money. I just have my visa. And then I went into the store, and that person was gone. It was this kind of large woman. And I was driving the Camaro back. It started to rain lightly.

And all of a sudden, and this sounds so much like a Hollywood movie, all of a sudden a woman jumped, literally jumped in front of the Camaro. And the guy in back of me, too, and I was going, I was going like five miles under the speed limit or maybe even more than less, you know, I was going real slow. This woman just jumped. Unfortunately, it being a Camaro, I didn't kill her because she ended up on the top of it, you know, they're pretty low. And I called the police immediately and the man behind me did too and he stopped so I wouldn't get hit. You know, I went around to see how the woman. was, you know, well, first I got out and wanted to see how she was. And this woman, I was like,

oh, my gosh, oh, her job's broken. No, it turned out it wasn't, but her face had been like really deformed from something before. But this woman looked like she was really oppressed. She was so glazed over eyes, totally out of it. When the policemen arrived and the fire truck and everything, I mean, he acted like he was annoyed with her and he asked me if there was any damage to my car. you know, like Big New, I mean, and he said, well, there's a lot of homeless people here and they tend to cross this way. Because she was totally, I mean, she literally jumped in front of my car. And I've never had an accident in my life, you know. I've been hit on the back.

I mean, bumpers a couple times, but that's it. So that was really crazy. And I knew I was like, kind of sounds like, you know, she was oppressed by something and something. I mean, it sounds like there might have been something to that, you know, and I noticed there's a whole lot of accident. that happened around there, but I feel like that was one of the strange things that was kind of associated with this demonic present. And I'm just so thankful when I was getting out of there, let me check, because there's some things I should have said to probably, but I don't want to give you like the slim

down version of things, but I was physically, I've been physically hurt by this and where it makes no sense at all, you know? and when that yeah and but this was like I mean I was I was scared nobody wants to hit somebody even if you know sometimes people you're a trucker I've heard that sometimes sadly truckers are victims of like when somebody wants to kill themselves they jump in front of a truck you know like they you know death by like a large vehicle and sometimes people do crazy things that you wouldn't expect and you know you have to be cautious but this was this was so weird I was was in the second lane. And the guy behind me, too, said, he goes, I didn't even see her, but she jumped, you know, out. And, you know, I gave the police officer all my information and stuff, and he was just like, you're okay, you know, and I totally, you know, I never heard anything back from him, but that I felt was connected. I felt like some other things where things seem to really get even more crazy because I bought a house in New Mexico and they knew. And that's, and that's

when I finally like bought the house cash and stuff and they knew it, that's when it started to get worse. And I should say too, because I told you before the interview, but I did get a psychiatric evaluation and I'm not schizophrenic. And how long did you have that? It was in this year in March. And what happened to me when I had my little, the alien attack, I mean, what I called called the fire department because I wanted to go. I was so scared.

That was October 28 of last year. Okay. So I had an evaluation. It took, I should say, too, because I wanted one then. But then I waited a while, things got, because I said it was two weeks, but it was two weeks from when I made the appointment, which ended up being in March, too. So that was really, you know, I was like, well, doesn't

schizophrenia hit people in the 20s. You know, it's not usually when they're older. And he agreed with me, too, you know. And I do have ADHD and PTSD, but, you know. Is the PTSD from your childhood and all the things that you went through, not with the paranormal, but your real life, the things that you went through? Yeah, my real life. Okay.

Real life stuff. Yeah, definitely real life stuff too. Yeah, but I have to say it was so, and for me to go, the things I've been through, I'm just saying this to me was so real too. This, you know, spiritual side of this is so real to me. It's just as real. So it may sound a little weird, but it was, it's very real to me. I mean, this was something that, you know, I was terrified. And this is where it gets to be the, I'm looking over because I wanted to not skip anything.

I wanted to make sure that, you know, this is very personal. After I bought a house, they came back full force. I mean, they came back in such a way, and I just bought a actual, well, more like a truck, a Chevy Tahoe. And I ended up having, I would get in the Chevy Tahoe, and it felt like somebody like when little kids kicked the back seat or they kick the front seat when they're in the back, it felt like that and I would hear that one the one that supposedly liked me I would hear that

I would hear like little like panting growls and I knew it was him you know I knew it was this human looking supposed male demon whatever and it was really strange when I was laying on the bed in the living room

so it's just nice to there the way the place is laid out and I was just laying on the bed and I was reading, just kicking back. And then I heard in one ear, it wasn't like in my head. It was like in one ear. Like someone who was leaning down, I saw a little bit of dark hair. And I heard, don't move.

I don't know if that meant don't move to New Mexico or don't move on the bed. And I would go in to places and I'd see like out of, you know, after I refused to acknowledge that and stuff, I would see in my peripheral. feel vision, I would see like little bits, like somebody standing right next to me, then flash, you know? And I would see, I would see especially that one guy in his, like, what you want to present to me, which looked like a, like I said, a Caucasian hipster, walking around, wearing different clothes and touch, but like flashes, were you two, like flashes of him and flashes of him, like, around the apartment, around

different areas. I saw that and I chose to just ignore it and call upon, you know, I call upon, you know, I would pray. And I prayed a lot. I prayed, I would pray for over an hour. You know, I pray a lot, like, from 2.30 to 3.30 and on at night, I wouldn't sleep around 3 because I was scared. Even after all this, I knew. And the most terrifying thing for me is if I started to feel, like, vibration in my feet,

almost like it's like beam me up kind of thing. I really felt like for some reason I could literally be pulled in somewhere and, you know, maybe not. I mean, maybe that would be it. And I still, to be honest with you, I still do. So right before we were going to move and we still have that apartment, we still are paying rent on it in Tauqua, not until next May. But we had moved myirstream out of vintage airstream that we were, we, we, moved some stuff down to the house here. So we had it in the parking lot at the apartment.

And he had described, I don't know, it was like, it was, I felt very haunted. I mean, he was around, but at the same time it was the strangest feeling. It wasn't completely fearful, but I knew it was like this, this guy's like glued to me, you know, and I would try things who'd go away, then you'd come back. And I just prayed and prayed that one, oh, for, you know, for spiritual armor, the armor of God, putting on the armor of God. I prayed that so many times, you know, I mean, there, and it works, but they come back. I mean, you know, it's like, God keeps us safe. It doesn't mean that they're gone.

I mean, they're here. This world, I mean, they're here. I mean, demons are here. But he kept me safe. And this guy was always, you know, he's just like, kind of like a stalker demon. And when we were moving stuff, I don't want to miss other parts of this. That might have been crucial to the story. So please let me know, Tony, if I have.

But this is where it got really ugly because I kept thinking always in the back of my head. I was like, that one told me that. was never going to go to New Mexico or you're not going to New Mexico. And when I said, yes, I mean, went, no. So I was like, okay, this is kind of freaky. Maybe they're building up to something, you know. And I was moving things in, oh, and right when I said that, a flight like hit me on the bridge of my nose.

But I was moving things into the airstream, which was just directly outside of our little apartment. and I came back in and my husband and I we were we've been you know I mean we were kind of arguing I'd been feeling terrible I hadn't gotten enough sleep and I kind of blew a fews you know we we we verbally fought you know there are no kids around but we it was horrible and I felt so horrible and right when and that's one thing like people new age people say about the oras you know don't get holes in your aura, you know, don't let your, you know, keep a strong, you know, keep a strong armor too. Well, negative, when you're negative or you're feeling upset and stuff,

then what they call like their lower vibrations or, you know, that happens. I mean, I do believe it's a, it's a Christian thing, too, in a sense that if you, when you're upset, it gives them a little bit of access to you. I mean, I felt that and I felt like that horrible feeling of like the vibration coming on in my feet. And I was like, oh no. No. And then my husband said he's like, he's like, well, I'm going to go out. I'm going to go to Fred Myers, you know, whatever, the store.

And I'll be back in a little bit. And when he said that, I felt, and I felt this before, like in bed too, like the vibration. And then this is the crazy thing with what I've seen, what I can say about demons is they can, we can see them like full on in physical form, physical stuff. eyes of a human being. And then they can do things like they can look like almost like the size of a small, like a small dog or a cat like with a blanket. You'll see a blanket move. And that's one thing.

And you can feel them like when they move, you know, not just like a human being when you hear about like succubus or incubus, you know, and that is real. It is very real. But that's one thing. You can feel like it feels like someone's right next to you. or it can feel like somebody, you can feel like this energy

that's going to your body internally. And I felt like at that time I felt right before we left. Actually, it was two days before we left. We went on the road to New Mexico. I felt internally that I was assaulted. You know, I mean, and it's not like you can't like, punch someone or try to like get them off of you you know i really and that's what i meant is this was you know it still is to me i mean physically i had physical effects of this and i felt

very assaulted it was like i maybe he was like that was his last chance because he was he was a territorial spirit like that area i don't know that i was i mean i i i went out to my Chevy Tahoe and I stayed there until my husband got back. I couldn't even be in the apartment. I couldn't, I mean, what's I do? It's like I can't punch a guy, you know? What can I do? And it was like internally, I was assaulted.

So with that, because I had a feeling that's where this was gearing up to with that entity. Was it something that you felt in the moment or was it something that like you felt after it had already happened. Were you very aware of what was going on in the moment? Yes. Yes. Just like it could have been a human person, except there was no human on the outside of me. Okay. It was as much as if somebody very forceful, but there was no human contact on the outside of me. It was all internal. and it was very real, very real in the moment and very real afterwards. And I had physical repercussions afterwards too. And this just happened.

I mean, we just, you know, we just moved. This was within the last two weeks. And, yeah. That recent. Yes. Wow. And that's where I was like, this, it's embarrassing. But I think I do believe that this.

happens to a lot more people than people think, you know. And if this helps anybody else and they're going through it, you know, just call on, I mean, even if you're not Christian, you know, I mean, this happens to a lot of people and a lot of my friends who aren't Christian know about this full-on, like about the gin and stuff, you know, saying I'm a demon, you know. but yeah that and it was just horrific and you know because I'm not demeaning anyone else who's been physically attacked I've been physically attacked by a human being too in some really bad ways you know so I can I can honestly say I know you know that it was it it's been um it

it was as traumatizing um can I ask you a question with with that how happening so recently, and I'm assuming you told your husband. Oh, yes. How did he react? What did he say? I mean, because I'm a husband, and if my wife came to me and told me something like that happened, I would feel powerless. I wouldn't know what to do.

Exactly. Exactly. He said, what the, what the, can I do? You know, what the, what can I do? What can I do? What can I help? What can I do, honey? you know

I mean it's put everything on a new level for him with this happening too you know he doesn't show certain emotions

but it's been upsetting for him and on the way down here we ended up way laid for and I'm not saying it's demonic it was because I just

bought a new car and we didn't know but the transmission failed so we were like six days late we had to wait while our transmission was rebuilt in

Mount Shasta. We stayed in Mount Shasta for six days. And I was talking to my sister, and she had been praying for me. And she was very concerned about this. She lives in Albuquerque here. And she said, well, make sure, you know, you don't know. Sometimes they don't show, you know, and they're tormentors. They want to, you know, it's all about torment.

And I was talking to her, and I thought Billy was right behind. me. I felt a presence of somebody right behind me and I turned around and Billy was on the corner, like, quite a ways away from me. I mean, he was so far away from me. So I knew somebody was right beside me. So if that is the case, you know, and I know that they say talking about it can be bad that I'd rather talk about it and maybe somebody else, you know, this has happened to them to or I know this has happened to other people. I don't know why it happened to me. I'm not special. I'm not anything that... I don't know. It's just... I don't know why it happened to me. I don't know why I would be on some demon hit list, you know?

I'm pretty much not as... You know, I didn't think I was of anything that, you know, a demon would want to mess with. You know, I was just, like, basic. I think there's different... Who knows, first of all? No one really knows why things happen to us. but this has been happening your whole life.

And you had a lot of things that kids typically don't go through. Like most kids don't go through adoption. They don't go through foster homes. And demons and these kind of things, they do pry on the week. They do go after the vulnerable. And what's vulnerable? A child going through these transitions in life going, you know, through adoptions and foster homes.

Like, like you were a tar, like, in my mind, you were probably, targeted because you didn't have the stability that a lot of kids have growing up, you know? Like, and so, I mean, you were, you were probably targeted from an early age because of the fact of it, the ease of it, you know? It's like easy lunch. And then they just kind of tried staying with you and attached themselves to you throughout your life. I mean, I don't know if that, that could be very wrong on that, but, I mean, what do you think about that? I agree. I agree. Yes. That makes perfect sense to me when I look back at it.

And, you know, I think about kids I know and kids in situations. And my 11-year-old is nonverbal autistic. And my other three, like I said, they're adults now. But my, you know, I've had some concerns about that. You know, I want to make sure, you know, and I pray over him. And he's really intelligent. He's just amazing. And, you know, I want him to be able to communicate.

And, you know, I think that, yeah, kids who are vulnerable like that, too, you know. And I do think autistic children might be targets. Sure. I mean, you'd be surprised how many people experience this stuff that also experienced abuse as a child or awful childhoods and things like that. Like, they pride, they're cowards and they pry on the weak. They don't go after, they're not like, you know, a lion, you know, will go after anything because he can.

These guys are like freaking hyenas. You know what I mean? They go after the easy lunch. They go after, they wait for the lion to kill the food and then they go after the easy food. That's what this is. I mean, they go after the easy food. And that's what shows. They're cowards and their lives, too.

You know, like they were, they, like you said, about them having no authority. That's true. And they made themselves sound so, you know, so much in power. And it was just, it, it was nothing that, you know, I guess I was kind of a sucker at the start. And now, now I'm nobody, they, you know, I, no one, I, I can't be touched by that. You know, things can happen, you know, but I know. And, you know, my eyes have been opened.

And there's no way that they're going to pull that on me again. And, you know, I just, I really, I hope that anyone else, you know, just uses and they don't have to be Christian. But hopefully that will get them looking into things too like I am, you know. And I just, I'm really, really thankful that my eyes are open. I can see that, you know, everything that led up to this, you know, and I wish, you know, of course, I wish I hadn't gotten upset right before we left and that hadn't happened, you know. I do know, I guess that might have been temporary possession, I don't know, or just maybe just oppression. I don't know what kind of words people put on that. But, you know, that just, I know now that there's no reason.

I mean, just staying positive and saying there's something to that when you're staying positive, especially, you know, because kids can pick up on that too. We didn't have any kids around at that at that time. My son was in New Mexico. But, you know, it's so important to stay strong because any chance, any door left cracked open, they will come in and it's it's so much harder getting you know getting them to leave but like the worst case scenario for like squatters or just like the most uh they're the worst i mean with infestation you could possibly imagine on the most personal level and everyone has to stay is virtually strong because i think it's getting worse you know and it's and just I really hope that, you know, I think there's more power in people coming together and just realizing it and, like, churches starting to acknowledge that too

and just getting back to like the basic teachings of Jesus too, you know, that we should be pretty open about casting out, you know, this kind of pestilence because my sister was praying for this place too, but before I even, got on our property. And we have like a house with a barn and a little bit of acreage and stuff. It's really nice, but cute little red barn. But I made sure we blessed it. Everything was covered.

When we were driving down, the road was covered in the blood of Jesus. I mean, everything. We kept, you know, like I said, my sister was praying for me. My ex's parents were praying for us, you know. And we just, you know, having faith, it's so important. And I haven't gone into all the specifics, but I have to say, yeah, before that I was physically attacked. I have pictures. I can send you a reader of my face, but it looks like I have, like, more pain on.

There's, like, a stripe and my cheeks have road rash, you know, and it looked horrible. I had both my eyes were blackened from that, too, was like this impact. And they can do physical things to you that are pretty gnarly. So, you know, I know now. And when I started out, when I wanted to talk to you about the anuvus thing, too, I believe that was demonic, too, but I believe that, you know, I'm, it's, you know, I always just thought everything was, you know, I never thought anything would go on the attack against me, you know, because I thought, hey, I'm not a bad person.

I'm not perfect, you know. I mean, not see things right all the time, but I'm not, you know, I'm not a bad person. I'm not evil. I would not attract, you know, that kind of thing. You know, I just, you know, I see things, you know, they're there. I know they're there, you know. And I think I even thought it was like more almost like a guardian angel, but they're all connected, you know. I mean, this is all connected.

And you're on one side or the other, you know. You're not like in some little. middle, you know, like, okay, there's all this stuff going on. It's like one or the other. And, yeah, of course, I choose God, you know. But can I ask you a question here? So you had these experiences throughout your life. At some point throughout your life, you had become a Christian, and you started using the name of Jesus to rebuke these things. This year. Okay, so it was this year. Okay, so I wasn't sure because the timeline here, it's hard to keep track of.

Now, this year, the very first time that you ever used the name of Jesus to cast out, or not to cast out, but to cast away any demonic entity near you, the very first time you used that, were you a Christian in that moment or were you just using the name of Jesus before you were actually believing in Jesus? And before you answer that, actually, no, go ahead and answer that first. Okay. I actually used Jesus' name in 2017. And before I had, you know, before I became a Christian. And, you know, because what happened to me happened October 28th last year. And did it work? Yes.

Okay. Thank you. I am always curious to that situation because I hear people say that if you're not a Christian, claiming the name of Jesus doesn't work over demonic entities. I don't necessarily agree with that. It worked. Yeah, because Jesus. Right, right.

And so I was always curious. And every time I have a chance to ask that question, I try to because, You know, I have heard of people saying that they are a Christian. They claim the name of Jesus and nothing has changed. So I don't know what the difference is. But I don't even want to venture to guess because that's a very shaky grounds to walk on for me. I don't want to venture guesses as to why that's the case. But yeah, I was very curious about that.

but they come back and they come back even as Christian and I think Christians are going to get hit hard with this too but I mean we're protected you know we have our armor on but they're around I mean this place everything I mean it's the world is pretty infested you know I mean to put it mildly and it's just you know, everyone has to be prepared and be vigilant, you know, and keep the faith, you know, and that's more important than holy water. I did my, I even did my own, holy water, anointing oil, everything. I threw out things because I was told that. It was so funny. It was like the clearest word one time. I was like asking what I should do in so many ways.

And this shows, okay, this shows, okay. I tend to be a little, I clean things. But yeah, I have a lot of clutter. And I heard very clearly clean. I mean, it was just like, I need to clean things and then I need to get rid of stuff. I had a ton of really beautiful stuff that was not appropriate, I guess, you could say. And I threw it out. And, you know, I used to be one of those like pin-up devil girls, you know, like the rockabilly style.

Okay. And the ones with like the black hair and the horns. And I never thought anything about that. And then there's all these pictures of me as a devil girl. You know, I thought it was just a cute little pin-up thing. You know, because I was always kind of the dark, you know, one. So physically. So I threw out a bunch of that.

And, you know, you don't have to like never. I mean, I listen to good music. You know, I mean, I love good music. and I'm a musician, and I'm not going to, you know, I know what's right and wrong in that sense, but yeah, I did get rid of certain things physically, too, and I didn't even see, maybe that attracted them too, I don't know, but, you know, I would say don't listen to other people. Somebody said, you know, you can't do this, you can't do that, just, I mean, have a personal relationship, you know, with God.

I mean, I don't know. churches are a human, you know, that's a people thing and kind of a social thing, you know. And it's, I've seen people on TV that made me physically sick, like preachers on TV. And I get nauseated when I see them. They're not the best example. Yeah, exactly. And sometimes, you know, people, if someone judges, I mean, nobody, you know, and that's the thing you have to forgive. Like, I forgave the people, the humans in my life that had assaulted me and attacked me.

as a child and as, you know, like my abductor who was going to kill me, who attacked me in New York in 1988, I forgave him. You have to forgive everybody, you know, I mean, you have to forgive everybody. And that really puts you free. You know, and that was one thing I hadn't done. I realized that I kind of was keeping myself in a state of, you know, unforgiving. you know, and anger, you know, about things, about very bad things that have happened. And you have to forget everything. So, you know, I shouldn't be the one preaching, like I said. You know, I haven't read the Bible.

I haven't done anything. It's fine. I mean, you're here to share your experiences and stuff. And I do think you're right. I think that it's not easy to do. I mean, I've been hurt in my life. And I have. scars for my childhood. And it's, my, my childhood haunted me most of my life. It still does to this

day. It's just not like it was at one time. But I came from a very rough neighborhood. All the kids in my neighborhood pounded on me for like 10, 12 years. And I became a very angry, hateful individual. I did, I did not like people. for most of my life. Believe it or not, I did not trust people. And when it came to those people in my childhood, I never forgave them. And there was times as an adult, I'm married. I think I was like five, six years into my marriage. And I find myself driving back up through the old neighborhood, looking for them, looking for a fight as a grown man. And so I think forgiveness is a key because when it comes to these kind of things,

they can definitely use that as an attraction to you. You know what I mean? Definitely. Yeah, that's the door cracked open. That's leaving the door, ajar where they can come in. It's like, it's like saying it's, it's, I don't know how to put it into words, but it's kind of like saying that you're worthless, you've always been worthless, and this is why we're here.

and we're going to remind you of that. And when you can let go of the past and move on, things change. And especially when you invite Jesus Christ into your life, and I know this is preachy, but it is what it is. When you have him on your side, things change. You know, like they answer to him. When you're not playing on his team, you're open game. you know but when when you when you yield yourself to Jesus Christ they answer to him and that's it

and it says it throughout the Bible over and over again they know who he is they know who he is and so I don't know how I got on all that but that that's perfect I mean that sums it a lot you know and it scars from from our childhood you know things that that we you know as adults hold on to especially when when we have children we want to protect them from that and the best way is forgiveness you know it right and and you know Mel this is all like very current event for you you know this isn't stuff that happened to you five years ago this is something. happened to you two weeks ago. You were, you, you were a Christian two weeks ago and they're still coming at you, you know? Oh yeah. I was attacked as a Christian. Exactly. Yeah. And my,

exactly my point. Just because you have Christ in your life and you're following Jesus Christ doesn't mean that the attacks stop. And sometimes, like two weeks ago, you experienced the worst attack you ever experienced because now they're upping their game. You're no longer, Listen, it's like this. If you're in a basketball game, I don't know if you follow sports, but just try to follow with me. Oh, yeah. If you're in a basketball game and you're, it's a five-on-five game and you're one of five

people on the floor right there playing for your team and you stand at half court on offense and on defense. Is the opposing team going to pay attention to you? They're not going to pay attention to you because you're not a threat to them. But the moment you put yourself in the game and you start playing some offense, and they have to actually try stopping you, that's when you see the defense coming at you. Before you never even saw the defense. But now you see the defense because now you're in the game.

And right now you're in the game. And so they actually played some offensive defense against you. Does that make sense? Perfect, yes. Okay. Yep, that sums it up. Yeah. That's a good analogy.

Okay. Well, I, uh, I love basketball, so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cal, that's good.

Mel, I'll tell you what. You got some, um, you got lifelong experiences here. And I don't think you're alone. I think there's a lot of people out there experience a lot of things like you. In fact, I know there are because I've heard countless stories of people, not personally. Like, I haven't talked to them,

but I've heard of these stories of people dealing with incubus succubis. And it's not cool. And that's just one aspect of what you've experienced. And there's so many things we can go into here. I wanted to ask you, kind of taking this back a little bit, on a couple things that you mentioned. And I just wanted to ask you some, you know, generic questions here just to kind of, I don't know, tie up some loose ends. when the one entity was standing next to the TV and I think you said the TV turned on or there's something that things were on you were seeing things on the TV and you did you describe a goat or

there was goats on there? No, sheep. Sheep. It was a two-headed. It was a sheep that was two-headed. It was over almost like a sleeping bag. It was covering these two young men. They were two young men laying there.

They were laying there. And this cover of this horrific, just grotesque, two-headed sheep. It was a mockery of Mary had a little lamb. It was the strangest thing. And it was almost like a sing-along thing. It was so, it took me off really bad too. I just, I felt rage about that. And it was the other one.

it was the lighter-haired, shorter-looking as he was presenting himself came in. And he pointed to it almost like he was just giving a presentation. And it just came on like that. Okay. It just sounds, it sounds very baphimetti. You know, that's not even a word baffamette, but it's very, you know, like, it definitely gives me that vibe. and there's so many different kinds of demonic entities and things like that.

And when it comes to the anubis, first of all, let me ask you a question. When somebody says dogman, do you picture the anubis in your mind? Well, I did. I mean, first when I heard about, I mean, I was intrigued about this because also when my husband was listening to to stuff and he told me about this too. He listens to Sasquatch Chronicles. This, when he had heard of that, because I told him, I told him everything before this, too. And so this, when I think of a different, I mean, my experience was different, you know,

and it sounded like, you know, it was a cryptid thing. But when I think of, yeah, when I think of that, you know, I wouldn't have called, what I saw a dog man, you know. It was a person with the head of the dog, you know. I mean, it wasn't a growling, you know, out in the woods or out in the desert, you know, creature. You know, I mean, your question was what, what I think of when I think of dog man? Yeah, I just wasn't sure if, like, when somebody says dog man to you or you were to hear that phrase, I'm sure you've heard it before, especially if you listen to Sasquatch,

I wasn't sure if you, when you hear that, if that's what, if you picture what you saw throughout your life. I picture, actually a picture because I think that all, you know, like, I believe like Sasquatch is partially, not as much, but partially of, you know, angelic or demonic, you know, I believe, I believe that it's, that may be mixed with Neanderthal, you know, that when you think about that, you know, kind of thing and, you know, like, I think they are spiritual. I think they're a different type of people that is spiritual, you know, like they say the Nathlum.

But primate, you know, like, I think that some of them have snouts and stuff. You know, I mean, there's like a different look and stuff that they're more animalistic. I don't know what I've heard people describe. It seems like there's all different types, facial. you know, depending on where people are. The one, when my second youngest, and he's 20 now, was about three, we were on Mount Rainier, and I've been everywhere around here, and I've known, I don't want to see, I mean, I know Sasquatch is in the Northwest and Blue Mexico, and we were up, not in the foothole of Mount Rainier,

We were up a little bit higher than that. And we used to live in the foothills of the mountain rain air. But we were by this little stream. My husband was heading towards the van again. And my son was going towards his dream. He was three, about three. And I saw somebody, I don't know what it was, but I felt that feeling. I was like, we're going now.

But I saw somebody peek out from behind the tree. I don't know. I've never seen that watch. You know, like I've never looked into. to a face, thank God. But, you know, I, it was that feeling, which I think comes from

something being of a spiritual origin, too. And I think that when I hear encounters that other people have had, too, they sound a lot more squatchy. It sounds like, you know, more of something and not to say, yeah, demons can definitely live in forests.

but I think there's a difference. I've heard Linda Godfrey mentioned the new best, like one that is in people's houses, you know, and that's what did it for me. That's why, you know, I was like, okay,

other people seen this. And I felt a whole lot better, you know, but a whole lot better. And, you know, I'm just so thankful that people can share now that we have this internet and everything. but I think that there's other people

have such different experiences, you know, from what I've heard, it just sounds very different. But I do believe, I think that they're all, they all have the spiritual side, you know, that they are partially demonic, you know, maybe Sasquatch isn't as much. But I also do believe that Sasquatch does eat people. And I'm old enough to have gone camping

with my adoptive parents. I'm old enough to have gone there before the eruption of Mount St. Helens. And I can say this, I never ran into a Sasquatch, but I remember the trees. There was a lot of trees that I could walk along

that had been like pushed over. I remember walking on trees because they were down in Spirit Lake Campground. And I remember remember, you know, I remember different feelings of areas, but like I said, I just, I've always believe, you know, of course, being from Seattle, even our Sonics, you know, our Sonics had, like, the Wheatle on the needle, they had like a little fast watch mascot, the Seattle Sonic

basketball team. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, when I was little, and it's like the we were like embracing it with all that fast watch culture, you know. So, I mean, and my friends, on my friends, like, people are in Muckusuit and people, all, everyone who's, like, from, like, you know, coastal natives, you know, everything. My kids were involved in, like, native dance and stuff, and Edomqa, and everyone just takes it for granted. Yeah, I mean, Seth Batch is, is there. I mean, you know, and disregarded as a different type of people you don't really want to mix with, you know, you want to stay out of the areas where they are. Yeah, I agree with you.

I don't want anything to do with them, to be honest with you. Yeah, I will not be hunting for one. No, and, you know, I do like going out in the hikes, and I like getting out there and things like that. And, you know, I like going into areas that they're known to be in and things like that. But, you know, I haven't been out in a while, and I haven't been out since I started changing my opinion as to what Bigfoot might be. And I really do lean towards more of a possible nephalum type creature these days.

And if that's the case, I'm not so sure if I actually want to see it. You know, like maybe from like a mile, oh, not a mile away. That's too far. Maybe like 100 yards away. It doesn't see me. I'm upwind. I know downwind, downwind. Downwind.

If I was up wind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, though? If I could see it from a, you know, from a safe distance behind bars or something like that, that'd be great. I don't even want to do that. I just, I just, I know, I know Sasquatch is and, you know, they, they are.

And that's all I need to know and I just need to know, I mean, I don't want to be anywhere near them. and safely can say that they have a long history of, you know, you don't want to go gifting them or anything like, you know, what I've heard some people do. And from what I've heard from people, you know, just, yeah, they have a long history of eating people, okay? it's not cute, you know, and they're no chabaca, you know, they're not, they're not a woody, you know. Yeah, it's something that's very real in my eyes, and I would avoid. I absolutely agree with you. It's, there's something off about them. Let's just put it that way.

There's something off about them. So, definitely, you know, pursue at your own risk. But, uh... Yeah, they're big, yeah. Bigger than us. Unpredictable, you know, and maybe they're a lot more, um, corporal than some of the other, um, spiritual beings.

You know what I mean? I mean, they're more of the earth, but I do believe they're, they are demonic. I do believe that they're, yeah, that's enough of them. Well, Mel, I really appreciate coming on tonight and stuff. Uh, you had, you jam-packed two hours of info. So lots of info to go through, a lot of stories and experiences to kind of think on and stuff for the audience. And you and I will talk and stuff off air.

We'll figure out of time for you to come back and go into some details because there's tons of questions I could talk to you about. We could go for another two hours. But I think we'll cut it off here and save it for another day. Great. This has been like the best therapy session for me to be honest. I'm not a therapist. I'm not a therapist.

everybody, I'm not a therapist. I'm just a truck driver with a podcast. Don't sue me. I'm not... Hey, this is good, though. I mean, thank you. No, I appreciate that. I just, I'm just kidding around.

I know, you know, it is what it is. I just, I enjoy hearing these, these odd stories. And I really enjoy being able to speak to the people firsthand and just kind of help people think through these processes because there's been plenty of times that I've interviewed somebody and afterwards they'll say that, you know, they feel like they have a more clear feeling as to what they experience just by talking it out because they don't talk about these things to just anybody. And so by talking it out with me from the beginning to end, it just helps people to just kind of work through the process. And sometimes that's all you need. You just need to have somebody

hear you out and so you can think it through and just verbalize, which, the experience was. And I just really appreciate it coming on tonight and sharing that tonight. Well, thank you. Thank you for having me on. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, there are three things you can do to help support the show. One, go to iTunes and do a five-star rating and review. Two, go to patreon.com forward slash the confessionals and sign up to become a patron to help support the show. And three, you can go ahead and share the link to this show that you're listening to right now around social media. That would help me out a great deal.

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