The Confessionals - 124: Moments In Time That Change Your Life

Episode Date: April 30, 2019

On Episode 124, we welcome guest Rusty to the show! Rusty originally contacted The Confessionals about a UFO experience, but it soon became clear he had many more stories to share! Along with multiple UFO encounters, Rusty also discusses the demonic possession of a girl that he witnessed at a youth convention, and a home he used to live in that was most certainly haunted. Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaISubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterPatreon: www.patreon.com/TheConfessionalsWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail]: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Show Art: Alika Spahn Naihe (www.hauoliart.com)Audio Trailer: Dalton Boyd (www.soundcloud.com/supernova-city)Outro Music: Get Free by Emorie

This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing up this giant. Well, the giant moves. He's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this.

Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. Spicer got splice him, got spurson when he got about... And I look over and there are two small gray entities. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air. Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing. A monster.

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And this week's shout out is Pam B and Joe Ellen B. Thank you very much for going to patreon.com forward slash the confessions and signing up to become a patron. Now let's get into this week's show. This week we have Rusty coming on and Rusty shares a lot of different experiences. He first contacted me about a UFO experience he had, but then he went into detail about an exorcism that he saw and also some hauntings that he had in a house that he lived in

and also the UFO experiences. So let's get to Rusty right now. In March of 2000, my mom purchased this house. We moved in right away and, you know, excited about the new house. And, you know, we go through a few months in the house, creaking. And we're just saying it off as, you know, the house, the house move, you know, the new move, you know. Something, you know, we're not used to, you know. And then within about six months, we got woken up about

two in the morning. I heard this little girl cry. At the time, we were caring for my niece at the time. When we heard this, we both opened our doors, you know, and go check, you know, down the hall into the living room. And we saw this little girl playing on the floor. You know, so right away, we think it's our little niece that's there. So my mom instantly turns to the bed, you know, to go check if, you know, my niece is in the bed.

and she's found asleep, you know. We come back out and that little girl is gone. Okay, tonight I have a great guest coming on. I have Rusty, and Rusty emailed me initially about a UFO experience, but it turns out the guys got a little bit more to share. We're going to get to the UFO experience last. We're going to start running through some of his experiences, chronological order. But we're going to start with a story of when he was at a youth convention

and he thinks he might have seen an exorcism. Rusty, how you doing, man? I'm doing pretty good. How about yourself, Tony? Dude, I'm doing great, man. What can I ask for? I mean, I get to sit here and hear you share some stories of your own personal experiences. I mean, I really couldn't ask for much more, brother. So, you know, I just hinted at the audience about your experience with this exorcism. You know, I actually have a similar experience that I'll share with you after you share yours. So go ahead and walk us into the experience. You know, what was going on? You were at a youth convention. What was going on there, man? Yes, sir. Seven era. And down here, South Texas, we, a lot of our churches, we do youth rallies and youth conventions for the young, you know.

And I got into a praise group, which we would sign with, you know, your Christian songs, your hymns, all that stuff, you know. And, you know, we were really active into church conventions and stuff. So we went out to this convention in San Antonio, Texas, and, you know, the week was going by pretty good. Then, I would say, probably the last two days of it, you know, we started noticing this young girl, you know, probably like I told you about a buck 10, buck 15, you know, what she weighed and she, like a screech. and, you know, it started raising ears to everybody, you know, especially, you know, for me this was going on, you know, just everybody just started coming into the,

and takes you into another realm, you know, and you, you know, you're going to this prayer and you're going to tongues, and of course, you know exactly what you're praying about and it's going, is going, is going, and we're watching this grow and it's taking, she was like throwing her body, but it's taking six men, you know, adult men to hold her, you know, from hurting herself and hurting others, of course, and, and this process of yelling and screaming and during the whole nine yards. You know, the tongue, everybody's praying. And within a matter of about 10 to 15 minutes, these curtains from the church that, you know, pretty much it blocks of sunlight, but it goes from the second floor down to the first floor,

which you walk through, you know, to enter into the, well, it blows outward. And, you know, those things are, give a guess, about 100 pounds, 200 pounds, easy. So they fly outward as this goes let's lose. And in that moment, everything went silent. And within five, ten seconds, then all the emotions are coming out of this young girl. And of course, everybody else that was trained because it felt like we were in a battle, you know, eye-opening things that you could see battling through something eternally that we have no idea of what's going on. Yeah, no, I absolutely agree with you.

When those curtains moved like that, do you think that that was almost like, do you think it was symbolic that it was over? Or do you think that that was almost like a physical reaction to like demonic entities leaving? I feel like it was more of a, like, I'm fleeing, you know, like that demonic entity, whatever entity was possessing that young girl at that moment. I think it was, it was that process where, you know, she, entity itself was scared, you know, and it fleets, you know. It's like the way you're asking Jesus is lame, you know, a lot of entities will flee, you know. Yeah, no, I get it, man. I always wonder if at what point do we start viewing the spiritual realm on a physical level? You know what I mean?

Because like these are spirits that, you know, supposedly can go through walls and enter your body. But at the same time, you see the physical reaction of like the curtains. Yeah. Now, you said this was a girl, right? Yes, sir. What kind of strength was she displaying here? I mean, like, people talk about, you know, people that are demonically possessed show on God, like, like, they're showing, like, you know, an enormous amount of strength, like, a very, you know, unusual amount of strength coming out of their body. Uh, was she displaying similar things?

Yeah. I, I'm like, like an adult man, at the time, you know, I taught at that time, about 280, you know, and these men were, you know, about the same range, about 300 pounds. you know, a couple of them. But, you know, it took six of them to pretty much hold her down, you know. And, you know, for a girl, that's 110 pounds. You know, that's just plain a lot of strength, you know. And I've come from a firefighter background, so, you know, I know what adrenaline strength is. And this is pretty much, like, beyond that point.

You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, it is a very, it is very, very, odd thing, you know, and it's one of those things where it's a very common theme throughout these experiences that people have. How long was this ordeal that was going on? I mean, did you see that this was happening for a long period of time or was it relatively quick? Well, at the moment, like, I really don't know what was going on before the process of the screaming and the screeching, you know, but once the screaming, you know, the screaming, you know,

you know, when during a youth survey, youth rally kind of deal, it gets pretty loud towards the ending of the deal because everybody's brain, you know, the bringing people to Christ, you know, and then, you know, so it's pretty loud at to a point where it raised everybody's ears, you know, it,

the hair on the back of your neck just raised, you know, and it just felt different, you know. It wasn't like a, so when that process happened, And like I said, it was about a 15-minute ordeal, you know, and then that's when the curtain, you know, flung open, you know. You know, I had a similar experience happen to me actually at a youth convention. But before I share that, you mentioned about, I think you said it was like six men. Was there anybody else involved here at any point in time? Was there like any kids wandering over trying to pray for this situation?

Oh, well. Just standing back and watching. Like I said, pretty much the whole convention at that moment, like, give a guess about 200, you know, teenagers, kids, you know, young adults, you know, that's max about 200. And, you know, like I said, you know, within a matter of minutes, you know. And when they went to that tongue moment, like I said, it became a whole other, like a realm, you know, like everybody, it was like an outer body experience kind of deal, you know.

Because it, you know, when you get to a whole other realm, you know, you're, you felt like you're living an outer body experience, you know, you feel yourself laughing and, you know, joking and all crazy stuff, you know, and people don't get to experience that part, you know, so they will never really understand in a way. Yeah, no, I get it. I asked that because when I was a young man, I mean, I, I was probably in my early 20s. I was a youth leader.

I definitely was in Bible college at the time. And I took the kids to a youth convention. And there was a similar situation that happened. It was a young lady down at the stage. She's on the floor. She's sobbing. And there's people praying for her. And all of a sudden, she starts convulsing.

And she starts, like, yelling in this, like, deep growl coming out of her body. And it was just like, it was really crazy. I didn't see the beginning of how it started, but it was like when the youth convention was over, like the service was over, people were leaving and this started happening. And the kids in my youth group, they started walking over and started trying to put hands on this girl who's like throwing full grown men around. And I started pulling them off by like the collar. I was like, now you got to back up.

You got to back up because these are kids that are just exploring their faith in Christ and Jesus. And like, you don't know what you're playing. you don't know what you're getting into. And the last thing I'm going to do is pick a fight that you can't, you can't win when it comes to that stuff. And like, because when I tell people, because I don't have much experience with casting out demons and things like that,

I'm not, I'm not opposed to it. I just don't have an experience with it. But what I do tell people is if you're going to be doing this kind of thing, that when you're telling this demonic entity to leave the person, you know, and you're praying about it, like,

and you're saying, get out in the name of Jesus. like I would highly recommend that people also say and go where Jesus tells you to go. Take it out of your hands. Don't just go like because here's the thing. Like the demonic entity didn't ask for permission to enter that person's body. It just happened, right? And so if you're casting out a demonic entity without giving an instruction where to go,

who's to say it's not going to go to the person next to you or the house next door or into the neighbor's pet? Like, you know what I mean? Like we see this like the Bible like demonic. entities asking Christ Jesus to go into a herd of pigs, right? And so clearly they possess animals, but they did go where Jesus allowed them to go. And that's why I always tell people, when you're casting out a demonic entity, you should definitely instruct it to go where Jesus tells you to go. That way it takes it out of your hands. You don't have to worry, like, it's out of your control. You're just doing your part. You know what I mean? And you're not making your role

any bigger than what it has to be. It's not about you. You're just basically a vessel. You're a tool to get the process done. So that's kind of like what I tell people. And that's kind of like what I experienced with that girl and stuff. It's just funny that you said that because we were both at youth conventions as both a young teenage girl. And there was full grown men being pushed around by this girl. And she was on the floor. Like she was just like sitting on the floor. And like she's just like convulsing. And these men are like, what the heck? I'm like, yo, I don't know. though, bro. You figure that out. I'm going to take my youth group kids and we're out. You know what I mean?

We're not playing this game today. We're going to go to Arby's. Yeah. Like I said, when that happened, it raised a lot of eyebrows, you know, especially to the younger generation that was still exploring the, you know, how many of them are still very active, you know, with the church and stuff. With me, it made my faith go skyrocket after that because I really couldn't, I couldn't but I knew it was something with the power of God, you know. So I, that's why I had to leave it because there's no other way for me to, you know, any other way for me to wrap my head around it, you know.

Yeah, and I'll tell you what, man, you may not know where those kids are in life and stuff, but I'll tell you one thing, they do remember that situation. you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And if anything, that could possibly down the road be a testament to their faith. So, you know, things work like that. So it's just, it's an interesting thing. But so that was, you know, a very interesting experience that you had.

Now, you've had other experiences that are along the lines of paranormal activity. And it kind of started when you were a preteen moving into a house. And for lack of better terms, it was haunted. So kind of walk us into what happened there. Because my mother purchased the house in March of 2000, deep south Texas. So when we, my mom purchased, you know, we moved in right away and, you know, excited about the new house and, you know, just shotgunning our bedrooms, you know, like, oh, this one's buying and that one's theirs, you know. Everybody excited, you know, we go through a few months in the house. And, you know, throughout the months, we're hearing, you know, the normal, the footsteps and the creaking and we're just saying it off as smooth, you know, the new move, you know, something, you know, we're not used to, you know.

And then within about six months, we started to know, we got woken up about two in the morning and, like, crying or playing, you know, something that emotion, you know, it was like a toddler, the sounding. And, you know, because at the time, we were caring for my niece at the time, and she was there in my mom's bedroom. So when we heard this, we both opened our doors into the living room, and we saw this little girl playing on the floor. You know, so right away, we think it's our little niece that's there. My mom instantly turns to the bed, you know, to go check if, you know, my niece is in the bed. and she's found asleep, you know. We come back out and that little girl is gone. It just, you know, and, you know, we tried not to talk too much about it,

but they'll still come up every so often, you know, like, you know, my mom would bring it up or I'll bring it up. And it was like one of those things that just played in our stuff of that, you know, and a crazy experience moment, you know. Yeah, absolutely. And so this girl that you saw, I mean, did it, did it, look like a ghost? Or did it look like it was just like, you know, somebody sitting there like a real person? It's aroma around it or anything, you know, it just, I guess like a freak, like a freak

thing, you know, like when you walk out and you see something that you're not supposed to see or something like that, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, you know it's not supposed to be there, but it's there kind of thing. And it was like, we got to see the full outline. We didn't get seeing any facial feature because her body, like if she was sitting in Indian sound, facing towards the wand, the television, you know, like, like, she was playing on the floor with toys or something, you know? So we never got to see a face of a facial or anything like that, but, you know, you could definitely see an outline of a little girl sitting on the floor, you know. You know, I often, I often feel like when somebody sees a ghost, I don't think.

think that you're catching the ghosts off guard. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think that you're walking into a room and they're like, oh, snap, you're home? Crap, you weren't supposed to see me here. You know what I mean? Like, I think it's either intellectually intelligent to the point where it does it on purpose or maybe it is like that idea of the residual energy where it just kind of fades in and out and it's like, you know, whether you're there or not, it happens, you know? But I, I, I, I, I don't think people sneak up on ghosts, you know, and catch them. I've seen way too many ghost shows to prove my point just fine. And that's, I'm going to stand by that.

Yeah. When that occurred, this is whenever that television show, Ghost Adventures, was just beginning. You know, so my mind is going crazy at this moment. So I'm watching Ghost Adventures, and I'm, like, trying to, like, judge my house off of, what I'm seeing, you know, and like, like I said, you know, we're here the footsteps and the floor treaking and things like that, but, you know, we never put two and two together. We always just, yeah, you know, like to blow it off. I said, my grandma was one of those that, nah, it's a boogeyman, you know, and, you know, just scary, you know, so you could go to bed and, you know,

just forget about it, you know, so it was one of those things, you know, so. It was one of those things, you know, So we always just and never paid attention to like too much noises like that. Like when we saw this little girl, it's like, like I said, it just blew our minds, you know, and after that we hunted. No, I get it, man. I absolutely get it. It's a common thing, man. It's a common thing. People see this crap in their house and it's got to be, you know, on some level, disconcerting.

I guess it all depends on how you view this stuff. You know, for me, if I found out there's a ghost in my house, I'd have a problem with it. I wouldn't be like, oh, let's leave it some cookies tonight. See what happens, you know? Like, I'm like, let's take care of this problem head on, you know? But so that's not the only time that something happened to your house. I mean, as you became a teenager in high school, something else happened in your bedroom, right? I'm around in three freshman year.

I have one of those. because you set your alarm on it and it'll turn on in the morning, you know, whatever time you set it for, it'll turn on whatever channel you want it on, wake up, you know? So I'll always set my alarm at 6.30 and, you know, it'll turn on with that deal. They played music and showed all the, like, whatever job. Put it on that channel because of the music. One morning, I can't tell you exactly what day of the week, But I know it's one of the mornings my TV goes off. I come to the music. And as I open my eyes, I'm watching this Western-style gentleman

walking to my room. You know, he had one of those mustaches that they crawl at the tip, you know. And, you know, the Western budding long-sleeved shirts, you know, real nice dress. But it looked more from walked into the room and the TV. And while he did that, he turned to me and smiled. When this happened, I was my eyes. You know, like, what did I just see? You know, like, what's cool?

And really, just because I didn't recognize this man, I didn't know who this man was, where he came from or anything like that. So I'm wiping my eyes, and I'm, like, starting to freak out a little bit. But when I opened him, I'm watching him leave the room. Well, he never opened. So when that happened,

I jumped up and I walked straight out, you know, opened the door. That's this man, you know, exiting my house or something. And instead I find my stepdad and my mom, you know, sitting at the table drinking coffee. And they never, they never saw anybody leave my room. They never experienced anything going on. They figured that I was on who woke up and turned off the TV. You know, they had no idea of a moment, you know. It threw me off guard.

And, you know, I always wondered after that who that was or, you know, if it was a different relative or was. It was just one of those things I never, never thought to look into it or check or anything like that, you know, it just scared me in a way. But I never got that, I never got that feeling that it was there to hurt me. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I can understand that, especially when, I mean, the thing smiled at you. So, I mean, if you're feeling like you don't get a feeling of it wants

to hurt you and it's smiling at you, all right, cool. I mean, when you first said that, though, that is smiling. I'm like, you know, that sounds creepy, you know, because I've heard, I've heard stories of people. For instance, there's an episode that I did. This guy got lost in the Smoky Mountains and he describes what happened to him the night that he got lost in the Smoky Mountains. And he saw a, a creature, let's put it that way. He really didn't want to say it was dog man. He really didn't want to say it was Bigfoot, but he was kind of saying it was either Bigfoot or Dog Man, but without saying it, he describes this thing looking at him and it smiled at him. And the smile, he said, was very unnatural. The smile went from ear to ear. And to me, that sounds like something

that's probably not very natural. Yeah. Well, it sounds like it's probably some kind of, for me, it sounds demonic. I mean, I'm sorry, it's not a natural thing for an animal to smile at you and for the smile to go from ear to ear. Maybe it was a dog man. It had a long snout. And so when it smiled, it looked like it went from ear to ear. I don't know. I don't remember the episode very well, to be honest with you. But whenever I hear somebody say that, an entity smiled at them, to me it sounds pretty creepy, but apparently that wasn't the case for you. I didn't get no this man in my room. More of that freaky stage than anything else, you know.

But I could imagine, you know, seeing a dog man or something like that, man. That's about me. Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, I would be scared if I saw a dog, man. I'd be scared if I saw Bigfoot probably at this point. Oh, yeah. I've heard too many stories, bro. I've been listening to you to.

years and west's show probably from day one. From yours, like I told you in our email, I'm a truck driver. So I, you know, the whole time I'm driving, it's either yours, West's, or some other conspiracy show that's going on. And, you know, I have those in, but my ears all day, every day, you know, we're phenomenons. They're going on. Yeah.

I was literally sitting at my house one morning before I had a going to work. I had a later start back in the day. I would start at 9 o'clock in the morning. And I'm watching Monster Quest on TV. And I loved that show. I always loved that show. And I was really just in that mindset of, you know, hey, you know, I really would like to watch this, finish this episode, but I can't. I got to go to work. And it just hit me. I was like, I wonder if there's any kind of Bigfoot talk radio or something like that. I didn't even know what a podcast was. And I just Googled it. And Sasquatch Chronicles came up. And I was like, I listened for like five minutes. I was like, yo, this sounds awesome. And I was hooked. I ran through all his episodes until

I caught up and stuff. And obviously now him and I are friends and things like that. But yeah, man, I get it driving truck. Listen to podcasts. Listen to what you want. I mean, that's why I think podcasting is the future of radio because, you know, it's just, it's just better. It's just better. Yeah. I honestly, I haven't heard a new song in like two and a half years to tell you the truth. My kids, they come and they're playing these songs. I'm just like, what is that? It's one of those things, man. But like I said, pretty much the same way I got into podcasting

about that same way. Just watching, the Finding Bigfoot stuff was on TV and, you know, all that other stuff. And then when I had my other encounter, just really just opened my mind to everything that could be out there, you know? Yeah. Well, why don't you walk us into that? What happened with the UFO encounter?

Well, this one dates back to 2010 by first encounter. And I'm not sure you're too familiar with oil, you know, like just the liquids or whatever. And, well, I had a buddy drop a pallet on the ranch road down in Laredo, Texas, which is about a two-minute drive to the border. And that ranch road, it takes you to the, pretty much to the back side and the Grand River. We're driving down that road to go pick up that pallet that he dropped. And we get about two miles down the ranch road whenever, you know, down there, you know, we're in a very brushy, brushy land. We have musky trees there.

We're out there in the ranches, you know. And just in the middle and over about, I would say about two. 200, 300 yards in front of us. But it's not like a bright light that it shows a beam or, you know, it got the big old ball of light around it. It's just a light, you know, that's out of nowhere in the middle of the sky, you know. Watching as we're driving down the road, noticing it when the light would, it would light dim out. And in the middle, oh, for that light was you can see two other little lights like spinning.

got off our pickup truck, you know, and so, you know, see, we could hear a sound or a helicopter, you know, like, that's what we're thinking it was, a helicopter because we have immigration officers and all that all around there. So, you know, we're figuring, you know, they're using some kind of government issue or something, but at that time, drones weren't really too famous just yet, you know? And probably about the third time that it turns off and, you know, does that spending bill. it splits into two. And right when it splits into two, that light turns back on. And so it's two bright lights. And then those two bright lights, they spit in it. And then they make like a straight line. And then one, it like peaks up towards the top and it makes like a triangle. Right.

So now we're watching a triangle figure with force. And sometimes just turning off and each one of them have that little in the middle. This time they're a little closer, let's say about 150 yards from us, you know, about, give it gets about 300 meters or so up in the air, you know, so if there was anything,

we could hear it, you know, we never got a humming sound or anything. So we're like, well, shoot, let's take pickings back then. So all the razor phones and they were dead, like completely dead. No, no battery life on them, no nothing. So, you know, we're okay.

That's weird, you know. and then those lights end up making a diamond shape like from the triangle it went into a diamond shape so now you got one in four corners and they start like covering in like a circle

kind of deal and then they all just make one more line again and by this process it's already about five ten minutes into it and then they all I'll just come back to get into one, and in one bright light, it just zooms off. And you think, like, it just, these are like a telling of light, just enough so you could

see which direction it went, and you couldn't, and that, that was really the eye-opener, open-minded situation that happened. Yeah, for sure. So, I mean, you reach in your pockets and you pull out your razor cell phones. I haven't heard somebody to say that in a while. and all of them are dead. Is that what you're saying? Yeah.

Every one of our phones, one of the guys that was with me, he had, and mind you, multiple eyewitnesses. There's three of us that ain't right thing. You know, still to do this day,

we, like, if we see each other, we'll bring that up, you know, and, like, oh man, that's freaky,

you know? And one of my buddies, he had one of those old-school peanut phones, the Nokia, little single, little, tiny phones. Yeah.

And he had one of those phones and nothing like none of our phones had battery, you know, and we just thought that was, you know, and of course, mine, besides seeing the lights in the sky, you know, but, you know, it had no sounds, no,

like, you know, it doesn't make us so sick or anything like that. It would just light that popped up in our sky, you know, and look on YouTube to the UFO side. There's one video in there that it shows almost the same thing, except that's doing a different. Yeah, that's interesting, man.

I mean, with this sighting that you had, did you ever feel like at any point that those lights were aware of you at all? Sure, not these ones at least. Like I've mentioned, I've had a few others, but these ones at that moment, you know, it just, like I said, way out of the ordinary to, for something like that to be in the middle of the ranch that we were driving down, especially where I rigged at, you know? So it, uh, it was kind of, it was more of a scary situation, I guess, now that I think about it because, you know, we had no, no cell phone,

no nothing now. Yeah. Now, I mean, I guess, I'm, I don't know, I mean, if this thing was, or things, I guess, were in the sky and your cell phones went dead. If it had anything to do with what was in the sky, I guess maybe it was aware that you were there or it's just a natural effect that it has on electronics. Did you have any experiences with the cars or anything that would be a sign that it was affecting that? Well, that truck, we actually turned it off when we pulled over. because I guess

I think it was more just so we could see if we hear sound you know we never let the lights on or anything like that we just shut everything down at that moment you know because you know we're trying to we're trying to hear sound and see

you know if it was a helicopter or what it was because like I said when they split apart and then they all came back together you know there's no like crazy sound sound you know like You know, we never got that. So, you know, as far as it affecting the vehicle and stuff, we never really got to

see if that happened at that moment because we had just shut it down, you know? Yeah, I mean, I just find it interesting and fascinating that you did have the electrical difficulty with your phones. And, I mean, where do we hear that? We hear that with Bigfoot sightings. You hear that with dog man sightings that, you know, all of a sudden your cell phone or whatever electronics you had, all of a sudden they stopped working. and it's like, you know, what's going on here?

I mean, this is clearly not something that's just totally natural because, I mean, I've never heard of an animal being able to affect the electronics that you're holding or, you know, somebody's pickup truck driving by affecting your cell phone battery. You know, there's definitely something going on here. Now, you said that you, that was the first experience. Did you have any more UFO encounters after that? Around the same time of year. It's around no other year.

and I've, like, I work this, this side of Texas a lot because, you know, I'm driving and, you know, so we do a lot of, a lot of work over here and on this side of Texas, you know, so much, like I said, every year, probably like two or three years in between that, you know, I wasn't in this area, you know, but, um, the following year, I got in with another company and I was, down in Carrizo Springs. You know, it's about driving one way. And we were deep into a ranch, you know, give a guess about 30 miles in. And we got turned around from the oil field location because they had problems. So this time, it was about 20 truck drivers.

So everybody, you know, everybody got on the CB radio, you know, and just communicating with everybody, letting everybody know. So we all decided to stop. So like I said, it's about 20-foot drivers behind each other, you know. And we all got down, big old huddled into a big old group, watching these lights, you know, and they're like playing 10. It wasn't just like, you know what I mean?

It just seemed like they were dancing. Like they were just zooming back and forth and up and down and side of the side. And one of the gentlemen that I was working with, he actually caught it on video camera. And, you know, he, you know, dancing. Are those lights on YouTube, do you know? I really don't know if he ever put him on. But I need to get a hold of him and see if he did put him on.

I know for a fact, though, that he did record him because a few days later, we watched him on that camera again. And, you know, just still flabbergasted by what we saw that night, you know. Yeah, I mean, so these lights that you saw in the sky, I mean, if you had to estimate, how much. How many were you looking at? Like, 60 to 100. You know, so like I said, it was not a handful of life.

Like, it looked like the stars were literally then, you know. Of course, you know, you look up at the sky, you know, at nighttime, you know, you just see a thousand stars, you know. So, like, especially in one spot. So if you could imagine just turn your head while you're looking at the sky and watching these things just. to round around all over the place. It's kind of terrifying, you know?

For sure. Yeah, and what, like after that, I kind of got out of the oilful for a little bit because of that reason, especially because I was doing a lot of work in that area. And it terrified me a little bit, but it was more just, like I said, my, my mind was already open to everything that, every possibility, you know, and, you know, like, the way We were talking about earlier Bigfoot's and dogmen and, you know, the lizard people and stuff like that. So, like, my mind is just baffled by all these crypticrifting things and phenomena that we have no idea about, you know. And everybody's still trying to find answers to.

When all this was going on, it was just like, like it felt like it refried in my mind, you know, like I had to give myself a break, you know. and so I got out of the oil show for about another year being into that following work in the carri-so. I needed the money, young family, young man, you know, just trying to strive to make work for his family. And this time around my banding in my hand, trying to help him fix his life and get his trade breaks going on his truck. These seven lights,

just appeared in a, like, in a straight line, pretty much. Just one light after another, and they looked like street-like, no, just without a, without a glow or the beam. But just bright, pretty much about 50 yards, I would say, 50 yards to 100 yards away. And these ones we heard, Homi. I guess how you would picture, you know, like, something like orange street-like color and a straight line,

like, and then they went upward, like, a vertical, you know, from horizontal to vertical, you know, like, just, just all in the straight, the simultaneous tennis is lying, and then they all turned out one by one. And then after that, I told my buddy, I was like, I'm sorry, bro, I love you, but peace. Deuce's. Yeah, man, that's crazy stuff, man. I mean, the second encounter you just shared with us. I mean, dude, like you said that scared you.

I mean, I can't imagine because if I saw 60 to 100 lights doing their own independent thing in the sky, I would think that I'm getting invaded by something. Is that how you felt? Back in, well, like 2011, so somewhere in between 2009 to 2011, they made a movie about this guy getting abducted by aliens. And he was like trying to tell us, like, And they put him through hypnotism and everything like that.

Well, by the end of it, you know, he ends up killing his family and killing himself. I'm not sure. I think it was like case 39 or case 29 or case something. I think it's what the movie was. I just seen that movie when that, like, I went out to that job. Whenever I went out to that job after watching that movie, like, all this, all that started happening, you know. And it threw me off, you know. And at this time, I wasn't, I wasn't, I guess, strong in my faith at that time.

You know, like, so it, I did the downward spiral for a little bit, you know. So everything, you know, like I said, it, I felt out of everything and regroup in a way. Yeah. No, I can imagine. I mean, dealing with this kind of stuff, everybody reacts to it a little differently. And, you know, I mean, honestly, because if you don't think about this stuff a whole lot, Like, obviously, I think about this stuff now. I mean, I think about UFOs more than I ever did because of the show.

And, but if you're somebody that doesn't really think about this stuff on a regular basis and you have these experiences, it can throw your life into a world wind. Like, you, like, all of a sudden, everything that you thought you knew is no longer, uh, viable in your mind. You're like, because I saw this in the sky and you don't know how to make it. Is it government? Is it extraterrestrial? Is it, uh, swamp gas? You know, you don't know what it is, but you know what you saw. and you're scared to tell people because you don't want to sound like a crazy guy.

And so you can just keep it to yourself and you don't have an outlet, hence the confessionals. So, I mean, that's what we're here for. That's what we're here for. We're here to learn from everybody else's experiences. Yeah. And pretty much what led to be really into going into the cryptids and, you know, all the extra phenomenon stuff. So whenever I got, like, I had to reopen my faith, you know, I had to bring myself closer to God again, you know. And so, devotional kind of thing that, like, you know, I had to go redo a lot of things that was going on in my life at that time.

You know, so I went from dropping the circuit of music to, you know, listen to my Christian music again, you know, to going and dropping, you know, the cussing, you know, to going and dropping, you know, the cussing and speaking the right way. again, you know, and, you know, just little things at a time, you know, but I had to fix myself, you know, and get, you know, ask for help from God, you know, because, like I said, it made me test at that moment, you know, and like I said, I don't know, it was just because the movie that I saw before that, other, you know, I started the internet, you know, just everything you could find on UFOs, everything you could find on dog, man, everything you could find on Bigfoot, you know, The like down here we have a, it's like a, you know, it's like a dog man itself, but like just a dog, you know, just stay small. Like a vampire dog or something. I don't know.

But it, like that, that was the hard thing down here, you know. And it made you start thinking about all these cryptics and the foreclores and the boogeyman and stuff like that. You know, like people always blow off and make jokes out of and all that stuff. It made you think about it, you know? Yeah, no, I get it, man. And the whole chupacabra thing, I've heard people try to have possible explanations for it as, you know, it's a mangy dog.

I mean, have you ever heard that explanation for that? Sometimes that's what the description is. Their hind legs are smaller than the front legs for breed of dogs. About a year ago, down here in South Texas, they came gentleman. It's a weird-looking dog that he caught, but the thing, you know. So, but I guess that's every skeptic for you because, you know, we could bring a big foot to

somebody and they'd be like, oh, no, that's just somebody dressed up, you know, like, I guess, I guess that's how it is. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to make of the Chupacabra. I know I had somebody who wanted to come on the show and share their experience with it, and they would seem to be pretty certain this is something not normal. And so she was nervous about coming on the show. She's like, I don't feel comfortable with this. I said, well, you know, you don't have to.

I'm not going to make you do it. But I told her, I said a lot of people look at the chupacabra as something that's, you know, actually more normal than any other cryptid. But I guess she was just really afraid of the backlash and things like that. And she didn't come on. Maybe one of these days she will and stuff. Maybe she's listening to this right now. And she's, oh, you know what? Maybe I'll finally come on, you know, a year and a half later, you know?

Yeah, well, like, I was saying, like, my grandma's a Hispanic, you know, and the stories she would tell you about, you know, things like that. It was just one of those things that you, you know, you just never want to dig into it or, or like the witches, you know, like, down here we call them Bruja, bitch, you know. But that would always be like, don't go to pass this lady's house because the fruha, you know, you listen. you never went because you never wanted to experience anything past that, you know? Yeah, I totally get it, man. Especially as a kid. Oh, for sure, for sure, for sure. Well, listen, man, I really appreciate coming on tonight and sharing some of these

stories that you've experienced. You know, if you had to sum it up, man, as far as the ghostly encounters go and stuff, I mean, I know you referenced it several times throughout the show that you're a Christian, how do you reconcile your experiences with your faith? Is it something that you believe that ghosts are real because you've seen them? Or do you believe that all ghosts are demonic entities? How do you view these things? There is no wrong and wrong answer to this.

I honestly, but not typically all of them. You know, like I do believe in the demonic entities and stuff. I think they're just stuck in, you know, especially if they die suddenly or, you know, anything like that. You know, because, you know, we've all heard the stories, you know, or Redwood and they see the light and they come back and they preach about it or they tell people about it. And I'm necessary to always a bad thing. I think it's a way for, you know what I mean?

No, yeah, I totally get what you're saying. There's a lot of people without opinion. Yeah, I honestly don't think that they're typically, you know, demon-possessed or anything like that. Like, you know, of course, you know, I think the bad ones from the good ones, you know, like, or not the good ones typically, you know, but just the bad ones in general, you know, the... That's fine, man. That's fine. Well, listen, man, Rusty, I really appreciate coming on and sharing your stories, man. I really appreciate it.

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