The Confessionals - 126: Say It With A Smile

Episode Date: May 14, 2019

Episode 126 is a two-part show with guests Ricky and Mark. First, Ricky shares with us some of his extreme paranormal experiences. During his interview, there is a surprising disturbance on the recording that may be an EVP! Following Ricky, Mark joins The Confessionals to tell us about a time that he saw a bigfoot in Pennsylvania, and also shares a dogman story and shadow people experiences!Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaISubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterPatreon: www.patreon.com/TheConfessionalsWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail]: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Show Art: Alika Spahn Naihe (www.hauoliart.com)Audio Trailer: Dalton Boyd (www.soundcloud.com/supernova-city)Outro Music: Gospel Truth by Joseph J. Jones

This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing up this giant. But the giant moves, he's got a... spear in one hand and he's running really fast and spears Dan holds them up like this somebody else shoot him in the face shoot him in the face they basically decapitated

when he got about feel something pulling at my leg and I look over and there are two small gray entities and they're literally I'm getting pulled off the bed I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster Yep. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or story you'd like to share with me in the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. Or go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the connection section, and you can reach me that way as well. Either way works for me, just get a hold of me. This week is a little bit of a different week because I am in Texas, so I'm recording. and producing this show on Wednesday the prior week. So there are no shoutouts this week because I don't know who is doing what. But I can tell you you have a great show coming up here. We are going to be talking to Mark and Ricky.

We're going to start with Ricky, who actually had a lot of paranormal experiences, and we actually had an EVP possibly come through on the line that you'll be able to hear. And then after Ricky, we're going to get into Mark, who had a big foot experience, and then he talks about some dogman stuff and also shadow people. So strap up tight because you're in for a ride. Let's go. All right, today we have Ricky on the line. Ricky, how you doing, man? I'm good, man. How are you? I'm doing well, doing well. So you have two different experiences that you've had and both of them are pretty chilling. They're pretty chilling on different levels too. So the very first thing that you want to talk about is some kind of entity that was

bothering you. I don't want to give too much of the story away, but it kind of took control over your speech a little bit. And then we're going to talk about an experience that you had where somebody shows up at your doorstep and it might have been a ghost. I don't know, but it doesn't just involve you, but it involves your sister who was not there. So I'm excited about hearing these stories, man. So why don't you kind of walk us into these experiences, starting with the one that showed up in your bedroom? Yeah, awesome. So jumping right into it, I probably woke up around two or three o'clock in the morning. And it always seems to be that case with all, like, all these stories that we hear at the witching hour that, uh, all these crazy things happen. Um, but, um, I just woke up

with this, uh, uneasy uncomfortableness in our room. Um, and I, I, I look over to my wife, she's sleeping and, uh, I'm just kind of, like, just surveying their room and, um, just feeling really uncomfortable. And so I'm just like, I'm going to go back to bed, laying out. my side and I'm just looking at the corner of our room. And I noticed that that it starts to like bubble a little bit

in the corner almost like when you see you get a leaking a roof and it's a, you know, you're going to see the paint bubble up a little bit and yeah. So I see that and it starts to like wave a little bit.

And so I'm thinking maybe there might be an electrical fire and as I'm thinking all these things, then it starts like shifting, and then I see like this dome, like, start to come out of it. And so I'm like squinting my eyes. I'm like trying to see if like, am I really seeing this? Is this really happening? And then as it comes out, then it's, then I noticed that it was ahead.

And it starts to like look up to where I can see its face. And so going back to. when I first reached out to you, I heard this, the episode with Tile Terror with a smile. And I hadn't seen or heard of any other story that related to mine until I heard that episode that you did with that other dude. And so I was like, oh, man, like, this is insane. What he's explained is exactly what I saw. So basically it was just this white figure, not bony, but. but like really like if the skin was really tight.

So yeah, like a pale looking type entity. And it comes out to about maybe it's like collarbone area and then the arms come out. And it's like like not lunging at me, but it's like just out. And it's like this typical like Halloween like ghost cartoony like thing where it's like that's swaying side to side. And I'm like, what the heck is going on right now?

And I'm like, I'm like frozen, like in fear of what I'm looking at. And I'm hoping that my wife could see or just hoping that she'll wake up and see what I'm looking at. But that's not happening. And but then I just start remembering, okay, I know what I need to do. I know I just need to say in Jesus' name and cast this thing out or until it's a leave. And as I start to say in Jesus's name, I get to the word in, and then it speaks to me. And it says, say it. And I, it like stopped me in my tracks. Like I was like mumbling over my words. And I tried, I repeated myself.

I try to repeat the phrase like three or four times, and each time it will say, say it interrupt me. And almost like this intimidation, I felt very intimidated that I couldn't say it. But each time that it spoke, it like projected itself closer to me. So from when I can finally say in Jesus' name, it was like maybe two feet from my face. and then I just disappeared.

And then I sit up out of my bed and I'm like, I got the chills and like even maybe cold sweats. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Like I get up and I just start praying. I go and like, you know, do my safety check throughout the house and make sure the door's locked, check on my little girls in the other room and just pray and go back to bed. But yeah, that's what happened. Wow.

So you said you checked on your little girl, so I'm assuming this is when you were married with your wife. And was your wife in the bedroom? Yeah, we were sleeping in the same bed. The kids were in the other room. And, yeah, they were fine. But it took me a good while to calm down and go back to sleep comfortably. Yeah, I can understand that. Uh, did your wife, I mean, I'm assuming she would just slept through this whole thing. Like, she had no idea this was going on.

Right. And it was, um, I didn't tell her. Because when I came back to bed, she was like, are you okay? And I was just like, yeah. And I didn't want to tell her to like, like, freak her out. So I told her that next morning. And she was just like, oh, my gosh, we need to, we need to, we need to, uh, we need to, uh, unloint this house again. And, and we need to. And I'm like, yeah, let's do it, you know? And, um, so, so. Yeah, she didn't, she didn't have a clue that, you know, that was going on at that time. She said, uh, we need to annoy it the house again. Are you there? Yeah. That was really weird. Did you hear that? Yeah.

What, what, I didn't, I just heard like a little pickup and, I heard, it, it sounded like some, like, like, like a phone rang. And then I heard it, like a high-pitched voice just go, nah, or hello or something like that. Oh, I didn't hear that at all. What'd you hear? I just heard like a, almost like a phone when it picks up off the receiver and hangs back up. That's really weird. I wonder if that's on the recording. Hang on a second.

Let me pause the record, stop the recording. At this point, Rick and I were talking about what just happened on this week's episode, and I was able to capture some of our conversation on recording. And after we're done talking about it, we'll get right back into this week's episode. You're talking to me in the room that, where that happened? Yeah, so I don't know if like that or I don't know, I can't explain it. That's really weird. Are we on a, are we on a landline or a cell phone?

A cell phone. You're calling from my cell phone, yeah. Wow. So, because I was thinking landline, maybe somebody picked up the phone in your house and, wow. I have no idea what that was. I have no idea what that was. That's nuts. That's really weird, isn't it?

It was like... Yeah. I'm glad you got that on a... Oh, well, I'm going to cut this all out, and I'll probably put it as bonus extra content because that's really weird. I'm recording this right now. So, oh, my Lord, that's strange.

I don't even know what to make of that. It's not like... It was like, if you wouldn't get, like, paranormal with it, It was almost like an entity called into the line and then just said, huh, you know? Yeah. It's like, let me get into this conversation.

But, ha, I'm here. That's weird. And you're in the room that it happened in. Yeah. Wow. Is this a house or an apartment? This isn't like a condo apartment. Wow.

That's so strange. That's so strange. Well, we'll just talk. it up as a strange occurrence on the confessionals again. Yeah. I had once before I had somebody, I was interviewing the guy and we got disconnected. And when I called him within like the first 10 seconds of reconnecting, something came through the line and said, it sounded like it said, at first it sounded like it said, get Tony.

And then after analyzing the recording, it sounded more like it was get Tori. or get out Tori or get Tony or get out Tony. I don't know, but it was really weird, really weird. Whoa. Yeah. It's all one of the episodes. I forget, the episode is unwanted roommate or the unwanted roommate, I think it's called or something like that.

I forget what number it is. Oh, yeah. Something like that. Cool. I'll check it out. Yeah. It's, and I actually, I think in the beginning of the show, I have my patrons come on. Some of my patrons talk about it because they actually watched it live.

Typically, I let my patrons watch me do my, interviews live, but my software for the last month has been really jacked up and they haven't been able to watch and it's kind of frustrating. So like in relation to this like little technical hiccup or paranormal hiccup, I had a buddy of mine, you know, back in the day when you had your like voice or you had a little message, little, what's that thing called? Dang it. I'm old now. I forgot what it's called. Well, I can't remember either because you can't remember. I hate when that happens. It's a tape recorder.

Yeah. Message machine. Yeah, exactly. And he set his up to be the spinal taps intro, you know, so it goes like direct from hell. This is, I'm not going to say his name, but you've reached so-and-so. And so he had did that the night before. and then he came back or and then the next day some he had this weird message like where it sounded like almost like hell on that line that left a message for him and it was like insane he said

he just threw out the whole like answering that thing he threw out the whole device itself well you know I probably would too all right let me find where we left off here She said that you wanted to, or she wanted to, or both of you wanted to, uh, reanoyed the house. Did you guys reen- did you guys initially anoint the house at some point? Yeah. When we first moved in, we, uh, um, did that, did that with, you know, um, we first moved in. So that's interesting because I, I've never annoyed, anointed, anointed my house. And I actually never really thought to, to be honest with you.

Uh, is that something that, like, is a practice that your family has always practice or was there a reason behind it other than just, you know, moving into a new location and thought it would be a good idea? Yeah, I mean, since I was maybe 11 or 12, my family's kind of done that or, you know, just if you're, yeah, like you move into a new home to annoy it to get, because, I mean, you don't know who's lived here before and a lot of the negativity or spirits that could be in the home might attach itself to, I mean, you know that, just with all the storage you here. So, yeah, we've done that, you know, growing up and each time we've moved, we've done it.

Cool, man. Well, I, I'm curious about this entity that came out of the wall, obviously. The way you described it, it sounded like the wall was coming alive. Is that how you kind of viewed it in the moment? Yeah, I would say that. I would say, yeah, it was bubbling and then it started a way, like, wavy. And I just saw, like, this dome come out. And as it raised its head up, you know, it had this, you know, sunken in eyes.

It was ballheaded. It was super pale white, super, like, skinny, like, almost, like, flesh and then bone. Like, there was, like, no muscle. a definition to this thing at all. And, you know, it was like wavy. When it peered its head up and looked at me, it didn't look like it had a mouth at first.

And it was just all like head, super dark like eyes. Not like where there was an eyeball, but like just, you know, sunken in like dark holes, basically. and it just looked like death, you know? And, man, that's giving me the chills because I'm looking up at the corner of the spot where it came out now. But, yeah, man, it was intense and frightening all at the same time. Yeah, I can only imagine, man, seeing something like that and then having your wife laying there oblivious to what's going on.

I'm assuming that the show that I did, Tara with a smile, the reason why it reminded you of the MCD you saw is because of the situation where there was no mouth, then there was a mouth. Right. When it spoke to me, it had this huge grin, like, as it, when it, when it would say, say it, then the mouth would still be there. Like, it was like, I would call it an ear-to-ear smile because how maybe, how definitely it looked. So its mouth looked larger than

than it would for someone who had like fat in their face or muscle on their face. Like it was just so between each time it spoke it kept this really like creepy grin

and then yeah dude so insane. When it spoke, what did it sound like? I mean because what I'm picturing here in my head is when it speaks it has the mouth and it has this creepy smile on its face and it's like kind of like whispering with a gargly demonic voice. That might be the pre pre-conditioned imagery that in my head.

Did it sound like that though? It sounded, it was more of like a, there was no gargling like demonic type voice. Like you would get like someone how someone sounds possessed. that we're talking about, like, when someone's possessed. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. No, it was just like a, like a, it was like harsh, but like, man, it's hard to explain it. But it wasn't loud.

It was just like, um, almost like a whispery. Um, and it was clear. It wasn't like, almost like, um, saying say it silently with anger. if that makes sense, if you can picture that. Yeah, I can understand that. I guess in my head, I'm almost picturing that creepy little guy. I can't remember his name, Lord of the Rings, that was obsessed with the ring. Oh, yeah, yeah, there's a Gullum or something.

Yeah, Ghalm, no. Yeah, I guess it could, yeah, but not drawn out. I picture Gowlum, you know, talking like, but this was like a quick, like, you know, say it and like, uh, with like anger. Like he, it, dude, it, it, it, it, it almost felt like he knew what I, or I'm saying he, but it, the thing knew what I was going to say. So as I'm trying to say the words, it's saying, say it. And then I'm like, uh, uh, and like, it was like intimidating. Like, I know what you're going to say and I'm going to scare the crap out of you.

until you say it. And I was finally able to get those words out, man. And I, man, it just disappeared right in front of me. Do you think that it had anything to do with your inability to speak? Or do you think you were so scared that you just could just mumble because you were so scared in the moment? I think, I don't know. I think that, dude, I don't know. I think I knew what to say, you know, being told stories like this from family members and having them having experiences where, you know, they've had, you know, seen dark figures in the room and, and what they did.

And those things just, you know, disappeared and never came back. So in my mind, I'm thinking, I know what I need to do. And I'm going to, and I'm going to do it. And so as I start to say, yeah, so I don't know. Like, I think it maybe knew, yeah, your question was like, yeah, that I was scared, but I don't know if it knew, like, that I was going to mumble over my words, like, I think four, four or five times. So I think it just was like, I don't know.

I don't know how to picture it, man. I don't know how to say. Like, I can't explain the intentions or, like, of this. thing, you know. But yeah. It's really interesting. And you said that family members have mentioned about seeing different things. I wonder if that's where the whole annoying the house comes from because it's just,

do you guys talk about this stuff in your family? Is it something that, like, you know that your family has a, you know, propensity to experience weird things like this? Yeah. Well, am I, so I'm Native American. So a lot of those stories that I, I hear from the reservation. And so they're, you know, they go with, they've seen crazy things happen.

There's, there's witchcraft that's going on on the reservation. And so, like, a lot of this, these things my parents kind of have seen and my aunts and uncles. And so, like, when discussing what we do, it was like, you know, you can stage the home or you can, being, or you don't like the house with oil and you pray over it. But yeah, like, so that's kind of been like how we were brought up. Yeah. I got you. Are you on the reservation now?

Is that where you still live? No, I don't live on the reservation anymore. I've never lived actually on the res. Okay. That's really interesting stuff, man. And when you said that this thing was like, I think he said it was like two feet away from your face when you were finally able to say what you needed to say and it disappears. At that point when it was that close to you, was it a full body apparition in front of you? No, no, it was still like, I couldn't, it was like flat.

So I didn't come out of the wall like, you know, standing like up the, like up the, vertically, it was like flat, like, towards me. So, like, if you can picture, like, flying towards you. But each time it says those words, it, like, project itself closer and closer and closer. And I saw, I could only still see, like, its arms and hands and its creepy face as it's getting closer to me. So I couldn't, I didn't see any, like, you know,

legs or torso at all. So it was kind of like, was it still attached to the wall kind of just like coming out at you? Is that what you would say? Or was it, I guess what I'm trying to ask is, did it actually at any point actually come out of the wall completely? And if it did, was it just parts of a body, I'm assuming? Yeah. So when it did come out of the wall completely. And, but as it got closer to me, it was, I couldn't see like the, the, the, the,

back half of it. I saw like only am I maybe there there was something there but I was only fixated on its face. And it's like hands like it was almost like it was flying to like come get me. So what do you think the whole thing was behind that? Do you think that that situation, the whole thing was something to just scare you or do you think that there was something more sinister at play? Have you ever thought why did this happen? Yeah, talking with my wife about it. I don't know. Like we've, you know, talked about different scenarios of maybe, you know, being stressed out

with work and all these things and that playing into it or. But yeah, to be honest, I don't know, man. I think it was just there just to scare me, you know, and it did its job, you know. Yeah. If that's all that it was there created to do and scare me, and I guess in that, in that case, it won, you know. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't know anybody who wouldn't have been scared of seeing what you saw and how it came at you. And then the whole thing with the speech stuff.

I mean, it's very odd. it's very strange. It's something that you don't experience in your life. And you can't prepare for something like that. And so it's just, it's just crazy because a lot of times people will see stuff, but the fact that it actually spoke to you, that's not that common, you know? And it's got to be terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. So that experience happens. And I think after that experience happens, you had another experience. Now, this experience was something where it involves your sister who was not at your house, but I'm assuming it's the same house you live in now, right? No, actually, the second experience, if you want to, I can just jump right into it. Oh, yeah, go ahead.

Yeah, it happened before the white creature that I saw here in our house, and it was at a different apartment. And so it was, again, about 2 o'clock in the morning, and I wake up to hearing someone knocking on her front door. And so I'm like waking up in bed as someone's knocking on our front door. And I'm just like, they probably got the wrong house. I'm just going to have this way here until they go away. And then they start knocking again. And then my wife goes, is someone knocking on her door? and I said, yeah, I go, babe, you got to get up, get up, get ready, and go see who it is.

I'm just kidding. I told her to do that. But so I was like, okay, I'll go peek on who it is. So I get up and as I'm walking down a hallway, to my right is our kitchen, and then the wall that has the front to the front door, it has this old. I don't know if you remember like the early 90s. You had like this ice block, like ice wall that you can, it looked like ice blocks,

basically. Yeah. But you can see through it. And then so with that wall had the front door on it. So if I just peeked my head through the kitchen, I could see if someone's by the front door. And so I do that and I see someone's standing there. and my whole my plan was to just

look through the people and then just ask who it is and tell them to be got the wrong place I'm like I don't know who would be knocking on our door that early in the morning and so as I get closer to the front door I could hear heavy breathing and like sniffling almost like someone's crying and so I look through the people

and I see this girl standing there and she's got her arms crossed. And, like, her, her shoulders are, like, shrugged up a little bit. I can see she's got, like, a zip-up hoodie, but the hoodie's not on. And her hair is kind of, like, waving a little bit. It's a little bit windy out. And we lived on the second floor, and the stairs were right next to our door. So I'm, like, looking at it, and I quickly think that that it's my sister.

And my sister at that time was living with my folks, and they live maybe about 20 miles away. So I'm just terrified because I'm thinking maybe something's happening to my sister that's caused her to be this far away from home, and she needs help. So I immediately just unlock the door and open the front door, and no one's there. And I'm like, what the heck? and our neighbor's door is right across from us. And so I step out a little bit and their doors closed. And so I look down towards the stairs and I don't see anyone on the stairs. And then I step out, and I'm just in my underwear.

I step out of the actual apartment and I'm looking over the little railing just and trying to hear if someone's running away. And then it finally hits me that, what do you do? Ricky, what are you doing? Like, you just saw them through the people and opened and they disappeared. And so I'm like, I'm starting to get the creeps and I'm getting the chills. And I go back inside and I lock the door and I go. Our girls were like two and one at the time. And so I go in their room and I'm looking everywhere.

I'm like praying and I'm like I go in their bathroom, their closet. And as I'm walking back, I go, maybe there's like a smudge on the little people. And not maybe I'm just going to look through it again. And no, it was clear, clear as day. I could see right across to the neighbor. And I start walking back to my room. and, you know, my wife's like, you know, who was it? And I'm like, uh, it was nobody.

And she's like, okay, and she just falls back to sleep. But for some strange reason, I think like this is some type of sign maybe. Um, I've heard, I don't have to do your podcast, but other stories where people's had, um, visitations from family members that have died. Um, and then come to find out that, you know, um, they get a phone call from, a loved one saying they passed away and, you know, they at that same time, so or whatever. So I'm, I'm thinking maybe something bad has happened. So I text my sister, said, hey, are you okay? And about maybe 10 minutes goes by.

And she, uh, texts me back and was like, yeah, why? I said, okay, that's nothing. I love you. Glad you're safe. I'll talk to you about it tomorrow. So we wake up the next day. I tell my wife what happened and she's like, oh, that's creepy. And she goes, you got to talk to your sister about it.

And I was like, yeah, for sure. My sister calls me and she tells me like, hey, she's like, what the heck happened last night? And I was, and like kind of like distrae a little bit, upset. And I was like, oh, I just wanted to see if you're okay. And she's like, well, something strange happened. And I'm like, what? You know, and she said, well, when you text me last night, the phone lit up my room. And as I went to go grab the phone, I noticed that there was a girl standing at the end of my bed.

And she had long flowing hair, and she had her arms crossed. And I was like, and so I just threw it out there. And I was like, was she wearing a zip up hoodie? And she's like, oh my gosh, Ricky. You know, she's like, who told you this? And I was like, well, I go, you should relax because I'm about to tell you what happened, you know, with my story. And so there was just this weird connection with this lady that was at my front part that she had seen in her room, like within, I don't know. minutes of each other.

Jeez. That's creepy, man. That's so creepy. So was that like a situation where, was that your, first of all, was that your sister's first paranormal experience? Do you know of? I don't know. I haven't really talked to her about that, that, any, like, any other stuff.

Like, it's just, that's something that she, she's had. But I don't think, you know, I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I wonder if she's experienced stuff like you have, you know, and I don't know. Like, do you think that there was some kind of connection between the, this situation with you and your sister and then later on, this entity showing up in your home? Or do you think they were just totally two separate situations? Because it sounds like they're two separate situations, but, you know, you going through things might have a different insight. Yeah, I think they're totally two separate. you know, situations. You know, I, you know, growing up, you know, I've always seen like, you know, dark figures and like shadow people and, um, but it, for a period of time, it stopped and I didn't see anything. And when it picked back up again,

was this weird situation with my sister. Um, so, yeah, I don't know. Um, I would say it was two, you know, separate situations. And when did the situation with this thing popping up in your room happen? I know that happened afterwards, but how long ago from now? Oh, man. It happened last, I think last year sometime. Oh, man, I can't remember when I sent you that email.

Because I was mowing through your episodes and I came across that one. So I maybe, yeah, it was last year sometime. Okay. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know the exact time. But with my sister, this was like, I don't know, like six, seven years ago. So there was a good time, a chunk of time in between them. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know, man.

It's definitely creepy stuff for sure. And I wouldn't wish that on anybody having something like that come in their bedroom. Because, I mean, it's a vulnerable situation that you're in. You're in your bedroom. You're sleeping. You're not prepared to, it's not like you could just go right outside and dig a hole. You're in a vulnerable situation. It's, it's got to be, it's got to be a scary situation that you went through.

And then the situation with your sister, that's just creepy in itself. I would have a hard time not dwelling on that. Do you guys talk about it here and there? Or was it just like a one-time thing where you guys talked about it and you just don't talk about it anymore? We've talked about it before. Like, we, because when she was explaining the situation or how, the, how, she looked. I couldn't see like the face, um, just the way the light was coming in. I could just only see like the hair, the, you know, what I explained to you, but she was able to see like the face

and, um, we, we talked about the details of it. She said, it just looked like a, a girl and just, you know, at first thought, like maybe it could have been, um, you know, one of those black-eyed kids, uh, and, but she said no, she had full eyes and they weren't blacked out. And so what she did is when she saw that, she immediately pulled

the covers over her head and started praying. And then she said she just couldn't she couldn't stand in there or be in there any longer and just from when I texted her, 10 minutes she was in her room and she just left. She ran out of her room and

then texting me. Like, yeah, why? Basically, because she thought I maybe somehow sent that to her or I don't know. Wow. Crazy stuff, man. It's crazy stuff. But I do appreciate you sharing it on the show, man. I really do.

Yeah. Awesome. Thanks for having me, man. Well, I'd like to say thank you to Ricky once again. Some strange experiences and that EVP was definitely at least odd. Next up we have Mark coming on, so let's get to it. Okay. today I have a great guest coming on. I have Mark. And Mark actually lives here in Pennsylvania.

And Mark, we were supposed to do this interview earlier this week. But man, this week hammered me at work and life. It was just, it was a drag this week. Man, I really appreciate your patience to make it here on Saturday. It's no problem. Being a truck driver, I deal with the same stuff, you know. Yeah, man. It's like, it's one, if it's not one thing, it's the other, you know. It's just, I could go on for about an hour just talking to you right now about how crappy this week was. It was unbelievable. But I'm going to spare you and everybody else. And we're going to dive into things here tonight. Now, you have some stories to share with us. And I want to start off with your Sasquatch story that you have for us. And then we'll transition into the story of what

your friend told you about, Dogman. And then we'll wrap things up with some shadow people stories. So let's get started with the Bigfoot. And so you almost hit one of these things with a truck. So tell us about this? What happened? Well, it was 1987. I was in a marching band at school, and I was waiting with my friend. Her parents were supposed to pick her up, but they never showed up. I guess they fell asleep. So I drove her home, and it was probably about, about seven, eight miles from the high school out in it, like a country area called Helfenstein. And I took her home. I dropped her off, and I was just coming home. I had a radio, well, actually, cassette deck. It was just hot wire. I never put it in my dad's pickup truck the way I should have. I just tied the wires

together and put black tape around them. I was coming home. I was doing about 45 miles an hour on a stretch of road. And there was like a little slight corner. And stereo, it was crackling. So I reached down, took my eyes off the road and I'm looking down. I was actually had my head like level with the dashboard. And I was playing with the wires. And then I looked up and all of a sudden I just saw something on the corner of my eye like it was running across the road like it was chasing something and all I saw was two legs just out of the corner of my left eye and it must have been inches from my truck because when it passed by the time I got stopped and I looked it was gone and it just happened like a split second you know but I could see it was brown and I saw it was hairy that's all I saw now I can't actually

say it was a softwatch or if it was a dogman or what it was but but if you were to ask me I would think it was a soft-squatch because I heard stories over the years from people saying all her, there's soft-fetching this area and stuff like that, but I never heard, you know, I never saw anything like that or really heard stories, just people talking about seeing or something there. But that's basically the encounter right there with that. I mean, it just happened to a split second. Okay.

Well, you think or you know that you saw it running on two legs? I know I saw it running on two legs because it was too fast and it was tall because I could, I could see the back of the legs. That's all I saw was the back of the legs. like in the back of the fire down to the back of the calf, and that was it. Just out of the corner of my left eye, I guess I put my head up, and it just, it just went past me. Like I said, I was doing 45 miles an hour, and God knows how fast that thing was going. So, but by the time I stopped and I turned around, I looked, it was gone.

It was in the woods already. Wow. So, I mean, essentially, if you weren't playing with your radio, you probably would have got a better look at this thing. Yeah, definitely. I probably would have been able to stop, you know. I probably would have swerved, but I didn't swerve enough. I was still going my route, but by the time I looked up, it was already past me. So it was pretty close.

It must have been like a foot or inches from me hitting it, you know? Wow. Dude. Why couldn't you be looking up? That's just the way it goes. That's just the way it is. Yeah, I know. It's just like, dang it, you know?

Because, I mean, you would have had an amazing look at this thing, and you missed it. And who knows? Maybe, you know, Sasquatch Dogman, who knows what it really could have been. But you did say that, you know, you have a feeling it was a Sasquatch. What kind of gives you that vibe over Dogman? It would have been a dogman. I probably would have saw a tail. But I didn't see any tail. So that's what makes me think that's what it was. Gotcha. And now this happened in the Shamokin area? Yeah, actually closer to a Lavelle in a town called Alphinstein. It's in between Lavell. Shemokin. It's on the back road. Okay. And this is like an area where people typically say that they have seen these things. Tell me about that. I mean, what's it, what's it like out there? I mean,

I live in Pennsylvania, obviously, but I'm from Shemok and I'm probably about two hours away. What's it like out there as far as people talking about these things? So you just hear it, hear it every once in a while, or is it something that people are willing to talk about? back then it was like said 1987 and uh it wasn't here and there wasn't much like movie wise to watch just the stuff you would see on TV you know

at first I thought it was all fake even though I did believe in them because my dad and I used to watch monster movies all the time and saw the Patty filming all that stuff and legend of boggy creak and stuff I always believed in it and he told me stories about Vietnam that there were people saying that they saw something similar over in Vietnam when he was in the service and we were always into that stuff.

And there was just like, just like little talk. I mean, it wasn't nothing major. Like, a lot of people think you're nuts when you tell them stuff about that. So, and I didn't tell anybody that story in 25 years except for my dad. So, because everybody would think, oh, you're crazy, you're crazy, you know. Yeah. And I mean, I can understand that. It's just, I, what I have a hard time fathoming is somebody seeing something like that

and keeping it inside and only ever telling one person. I mean, it's because for me, it'd be something that I'm jumping out of my skin to tell somebody and you just kind of keep your mouth shut. I mean, is that up to this time now? I mean, outside of your dad, the only other person you told is me, or have you told other people since time's coming on? I told other people over it. You know what I mean?

But back then, I was like, I'm like, man, when it happened, it didn't scare me. It startled me because I'm thinking, what the heck they almost said, you know? and then I'm thinking myself I'm like I couldn't be it couldn't be and when I got home my dad was still up

and I told him he said it was possible you know it's possible it could have been one either I don't know what to tell you I'm like and I heard stories that people had seen them around

but I never heard any stories in detail just like from word of mouth you know somebody so they saw a big foot here or there was a story where the big foot looked in somebody's window or you know I mean just little things like that but nothing in detail

so Yeah. I mean, I know, obviously, we're both Pennsylvanians and stuff. And if you're into the bigfoot topic like I am, you know Pennsylvania is a hotbed. I mean, it's like people all over the state, literally every corner of the state have had sightings, even down closer to Philadelphia area. I mean, not Philadelphia itself, but in this surrounding area, there have been sightings. And I just, I've never seen one. It drives me nuts. But, I mean, so, I mean, you're talking about something that was probably, how big, would you estimate. I mean, I know you didn't get much of a look at it, but did you get any kind of size gauge as far as, like, height or weight? If I were to guess, I would probably say anywhere

between 5 or 600 pounds, but the height I couldn't tell you because I didn't see the upper part of the body because the pickup truck I was driving was an old 75 Chevy pickup, and back then those headlights were pretty dim, even with the high beams on. So, and I'm sure they weren't adjusted properly, so they weren't pointing high. So I just saw the back of it. So I just saw the back of its legs when it passed me there when I picked my head up. So I really didn't get a good description of it. I just saw it was brown. It just happened in a split second, you know.

That's basically everything, you know, with that story. I mean, I have nothing else that I don't know if it was chasing something. It was just trying to get across the road to go somewhere. I have no idea. Yeah, well, it's interesting nonetheless, man. It really is because it's one of those things where you talk to people and they say they saw these things crossing in front of their car on the road while they're driving. And it's one of those things I said it before. It just baffles me. I don't understand why these things would choose to run in

front of a car when clearly they're, they have to have some kind of intelligence. And if they have any kind of intelligence, you would think they would just wait until the car passes. So it's safe and undetected. And so it just, it baffles me when these things do this. And I don't know if it's just they're bored or what, but very interesting nonetheless. Now, Did you tell your friend about this sighting that when she saw her dog manna's sighting and she related to you? Did you tell her about this? Yes.

It was about five or six years ago. She lives in Chicago now. And she was coming home for her class reunion. She was a year behind me at school. And we were just chit-chat. And I'm like, you know, I never told you the story about what happened to me. I told her what I just told you. And she goes, oh, my gosh.

She's like, what don't you tell me back when it happened? And I was like, well, I said, I figured you probably wouldn't believe me. So I just left it go. I said, I just told my dad and that was it. And left it, lifted at that. And I said, over the years I forgot about it, you know, for probably, until I just, like, in my mid-20s or something like that, late 20s. And that's when the Internet came out.

And then I started getting back in to the Bigfoot thing and doing some research and reading stories and stuff like that, you know. And so I was telling her about that. And then she goes, there's so many things over where I live that, that was strange that happened. And she goes, this is the dogman story that she told me. I am not sure how old she was. And she said that the one night her brother's friend was at their house and they were hanging out.

And he lived like a mile and a half down the road and he lived down off the main road on a dirt road. And he said he was walking home and it was, the moon was out and it was pretty clear sky. And she said that he told her he was walking home in this old abandoned house. he could see moonlight reflecting and he heard something inside of it like ripping something apart and he's just getting closer he could see through the window

he said it looked like it was a werewolf for a dog man whatever you want to call it and it was ripping like the ceiling apart like it was looking for something and he saw it and he turned around and ran back to her house and then her mom ended up taking him home

and that's all she told me about that story and there's like other weird things that happened over there like somebody had a dibick box and stuff like that. And she said her brother has all these kind of stories, like with the black magic stuff and everything.

But I really never got to talk to the guy, so I didn't get to hear all the stories about this stuff. Oh, man. I wish you would have had some stories about that. Dang it, dude. Yeah. But, I mean, so how old do you think that this guy was? I mean, back in, I'm assuming it happened back in the 80s.

I mean, was he like a child child, or was he more like a teenager, do you think? No, he was, he was probably, he was probably early 20s. Wow. Okay. Well, actually, I'm wrong. I'm wrong. She didn't say how old she was at the time, but I was in my, we were 17 when she told me. So he was probably in his early 20s when she told her, I'm sorry.

She was 17 when she said about this and. That's fine. It's fine. Because I wasn't there, so I really don't know the story in detail, just what she told me. So I don't know how old is he might he may have been a teenager. I'm not sure. Okay. Like I said, she told me about five, six years ago.

So I just turned 48. So it was a while since it happened. So I'm guessing maybe he was in his teens, maybe early 20s. All right. Because she was probably about five or six years younger than her older brother. Yeah, because, I mean, the reason why I ask is because, I mean, say it's, I don't know, a 10 to 12 year old kid walking home and they say they see something like this. they run back to the house, they're scared, and so the mom drives the kid home. Okay, that's one thing.

You know, like, the parents are just like, oh, it's a little kid, probably saw a cat, you know what I mean? But when they say it's a teenager, 15, 16, 17, early 20s, I mean, this is somebody who's old enough to know what they saw, and it scared them enough to run back to somebody's house and tell them a story that sounds so bizarre and have them drive him home. you know what I mean like right it's just yeah exactly I mean it takes I mean imagine if if you were just trying to get attention it would take a lot of guts to just go back to somebody to a friend's house and tell the family what there's some story of what you saw and be terrified to to ride home you know I mean like if you're making that up it's like you look like a ridiculous fool you know I mean that's what people would right yeah exactly and so I just I when you when the ages around that it just

I find it interesting and the fact that I know that there have been a rise recently of dogman sightings in Pennsylvania, who knows what was happening back in the 80s, early 90s, whatever it was. It's just interesting, very interesting. Yeah, I really never heard anything else about dogman around this area. But I guess around the time that happened was probably, I would say, about 82, 83 somewhere around there, you know, because I'm just guessing by the age. Right.

Well, why don't we talk about some of these shadow people stories you got for me, man? What happened? Yeah, my best friend, this happened in the mid-90s. And he's one that never believes in anything that you tell him, like Bigfoot, dogman, shadow people, ghost, he doesn't believe in any of that stuff. And if you talk about, he's like, oh, you're nuts. He's just all made up. So he told me one night, we, he said, he told me one night,

were out and we got home he dropped me off at my house and he went home and uh he said he was laying in bed and it was probably i guess i know three four o'clock in the morning he said it was and he was laying on his side and all of a sudden he heard just really really loud noise and it was piercing his ears and he said the lights were all off in the bedroom but there was just like enough light coming through the window that he could see and he said he's laying on his side and all of a sudden it that there's a couple people standing around his bed. And he said he tried to yell and he couldn't yell. And he couldn't move.

It felt like something was holding him down. And he said this lasted for about 15 seconds. And then he said he was actually able to break free and get up and it disappeared. And that's the only thing to happen to him. And I was like, well, I don't know if I should believe you because you don't believe anything I tell you. You know what I mean? Like any of them other stories like, no, seriously, seriously, he did happen. He's there, I wouldn't lie.

I don't believe in that stuff he goes, but this actually happens. I think, okay. So now what happened to me a few years ago, this was back in 2013. I was a Friday night. I think it was in February. I don't remember the exact date or the time, but I went to bed and I usually keep my cell phone next to the bed and I used the cell phone for the alarm. So I didn't need the alarm for Saturday morning.

So I figured, you know what, I'm going to turn the phone off so nobody bothers me. I'm going to take the whole night and sleep, get the best rest I can get. it because I was really tired. So I'm laying in bed and I don't know what time has happened. Well, the phone was off. And I'm laying in bed and I'm on my back and all of a sudden I hear this loud, piercing noise. It sounded like it was electronic. And I knew my phone was off and I had nothing else electronic in my bedroom.

So I'm laying there and it started to hurt my ears and I tried to get up and I couldn't get up. I felt like something was holding me down. And when I opened my eyes, I looked like there's about 10 people standing around the foot in my bed. and all I could see was shadows. And I tried to get up and I'm trying to yell to get out of my room. And after probably about 10 seconds, I think 15 seconds, all of a sudden it disappeared when I get up. I was like, what the heck was that? I'm like, am I imagining it?

So I went back to sleep. And just as I was getting ready to doze off, the same exact thing happened. I heard that noise again. I went to sit up and when I did, I couldn't move. Trying to move. I was trying to yell again. And there I saw the same figures standing around my bed. And I'm like, what the heck is going on?

And then by that time, my dog jumped off my bed and ran out in the living room. I don't know if I scared him or if he was able to see what was going on or what, you know. So after that happened, I was able to get up. I went out and got a drink of water. I'm like, I'm like, this isn't right. And I'm like, something's wrong here. So I figured I'm going to go back to bed, try it one more time. I go back to bed.

And the third time, by this time, I get up. as soon as I heard that noise, my bed started to shake. And then when my bed was shaken, I was actually able to get up out of bed and I saw the figures. And as soon as I lunged towards them, they disappeared. And that was it. And never had nothing after that. Wow. And when I woke up the next morning, when I woke up the next morning, my stomach hurt like, it felt like I did like a thousand crunches.

My throat was sore because I don't know for me trying to yell. Was I actually yelling and I couldn't hear it myself? But I had a sore throat. and then I felt like somebody hit me in the back of the shoulders of the baseball, but that's what happened with that. It was just kind of crazy, you know. And nothing never happened after that. Nothing never happened after that.

That's essentially an identical story as to what your friend said. Yeah, pretty much, but it only happened to him once, but he didn't say he had a sore throat, you know. But he said it just felt like someone was holding him down, you know. Wow. Now, this is a good bit of years in between when he didn't. this happened when I told him about it. He's like, he's like, and you didn't believe me when it happened to me.

I said, well, you don't believe in this stuff. I'm going, I believe you. I said, I thought you're just making up and being a jerk. But I mean, like he said that they were holding him down? That's what he said. It felt like they were holding him down. I'm like he couldn't get out of bed. But, and you said that for you, he was on his, yeah, he was on his side when he,

when this happened to him. He couldn't move. He couldn't even roll over, he said. And you, and you said for you that you, that you, couldn't move though, right? Like you couldn't... No, I couldn't move at all. And when I was able to move and I sat up, they disappeared. But like the very last time when it happened, as soon as I heard that noise in my bed started to shake on that time there, I was able to get up. And when I get up, I went towards

towards the foot of the bed and they just disappeared. Like they weren't even there like a second. You know, I could just see them there and they were going that quick as soon as soon as I saw them appear. What do you think the timeline is with the time that he had that experience to the time that you had that experience? Wow. Now, how long, 20 years? How long was it from the time that he told you about that experience to the time you had that experience? About the same time. Okay. So you never really, really never talked about it much after that, you know, he's just, that's just the way he is. I just find it interesting because like, they almost sound identical and 20 years apart.

Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. I wonder if it was the same thing. I have no clue. I have no idea. I don't know if it's sleep paralysis or you really do see something. I have no clue. Now, you said something about your dogs.

Did they react to these things? He jumped off the bed. I don't know if he, if I just spooked him because I was trying to move or what was going on. I have no idea. But he was, I was on a, like if you're looking at the bed,

stand at the foot of the bed. I was on the left side of it, and he was on the other side. So he jumped off the bed and ran out into the living room, so. So when he ran out in the living room, did he run through these things, or were they not where he ran? No, no, he was nowhere near them. He ran off to the side of the bed, the side that he was on. Is that out of character for him, or does he usually do stuff like that, just run out the room? No, he usually takes over to bed and doesn't leave until I go. Typical dog. Yeah.

Wow, that's really interesting, man. I don't know if he was just annoyed or, you know what I mean? I couldn't tell. But he didn't come back in the room the rest of the night, so he stayed out in the living room. Jeez. I mean, I think it's very interesting. The fact that you both had, I think they just sound mirror image. And, I mean, like my wife, she had a hatman's encounter.

She shared it on episode three. She saw a hat man when she was a little girl. I've never seen a hat man. And for somebody to have such an experience like your friend had, and then for him to tell it to you, and 20 later is pretty much the same exact thing happened to you. I got to imagine the odds of that happening are so far. I mean, that's why it almost sounds like maybe there's some kind of intent behind it. But for 20 years span, I can't imagine, I don't know. Like it doesn't seem like it. I was thinking maybe six months later it happened to you or something like that, but 20 years is a long time. Yeah, that's the first time something like that ever happened to me, you know, with the, with shadow people like that. Hopefully it's the last. Usually never have any. Yeah, I hope so.

But yeah, another story, another story I just moved recently back in June to my grandmother's old house. She passed away last year, so I bought this house off my aunts and my dad. And this is in the early 80s also. My aunt, uncle were having some problems, you know, and here he, got a job driving over the road with a partner. My uncle was just learning how to drive a truck and they were going cross-country. And my aunt and he were separated.

So she was staying in the house on that with my grandparents. And she was sleeping in the attic. And my grandfather had the bedroom down at the bottom of the steps from the attic. And my grandmother slept in the other room that's next to his. And this is in the early 80s. I was probably 83. I was 13 when it's happened. and I remember all the stories they were saying about it.

And my aunt said the one night she's laying in bed, and the same thing happened her, but she didn't say that she saw the shadow people, but she felt it. She said she felt like something was holding her down in bed, and she couldn't move, and the bed was shaken. She said it happened twice that night, and then she came down and told my grandfather, and he just didn't say anything to her, and that was that for that night, you know, And she said like a night or two later, she's laying in bed. The same thing happened to her.

Again, the bed's shaken. And she felt like something was holding down. And like the covers were on her. She couldn't get the covers off of herself. And then she, I guess she went down to tell my grandfather and my grandfather, he was sitting in a living room. I guess it was early in the morning, you know, and she said he was sitting in a living room.

She was telling him about what happened. And he told her when he was sleeping that same night, that he saw three red lights bouncing down by the foot of his bed. And he didn't know what it was. And back then, I don't think they had laser pointers or nothing like that. So I think he can roll that out, like somebody putting laser pointers in the bedroom. And he said he saw the three red lights bounce around, but he had no clue what it was for. And he just blew it off because he was one of them guys at a real stern, you know.

He didn't say much. And when she called him that, he told her that story. And then later that morning, there was a knock on the door in the state. police came, knocked in the door here, my uncle was killed in a truck or trailer accident. I guess he was sleeping in a cab and a guy that was driving, wrecked the truck, and my uncle flew out, and I guess he was dead instantly, you know, and I don't know if that had something to do with what happened to her. You know what I mean?

Wow. That's a shame. That's pretty messed up. Because I remember that vividly from when I was a kid because I remember hearing the stories about it. They don't want us kids to hear about it, but I was sitting at the top of the steps listening to tell him the story here. but she's like I said she had didn't see anything about the shadow people and she just felt like

she was held back in bed like she couldn't move and couldn't get the covers off of herself and the bed shaken yeah wow that's that whole story is sad man um i wonder i wonder what i mean in your opinion if that happened to you would you be better off having that experience where you're being held down but you don't see anything or would you rather see what you're being held down by I'd rather see it. Really? I'm the opposite. Yeah.

I think it's better to know than not to know because at least you know what you're dealing with, you know. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's a good point, actually, because I was thinking if you don't see it, then over time, maybe you can create some kind of thing in your head as to what it really was and wasn't a big deal. But at the same time, if you're dealing with something serious, maybe it is good to see it so that you know how to go about handling your business. But, um, right.

Dude, man, that's some, uh, that's some deep stuff, man. I, I don't even want to speculate as to his experience, uh, lining up with his death. I don't want to go there, uh, just because I feel uncomfortable with that, you know what I mean? Um, right, right. But it, it's a sad, man. That's a sad story. And you're a truck driver. I'm a truck driver. And when I hear stories of stuff like that happening, uh, it hurts. It hurts because it's like, it could happen to one of us, you know what I mean? And it's just kind of scary.

Right. Yep. It kind of brings you back down a little bit because you go through every day driving your truck, tons of hours, nothing ever happens. You deal with bad drivers around you. You know how it is. As a truck driver, you learn how to read cars. You know what's going to happen before it happens.

You can see somebody coming up next to you. And just the way their body language is with a car, you know if they're going to cut you off or not. And so after a while, doing that kind of stuff. Like, you feel very comfortable in the truck. I got this. It's not a big deal. I know what I'm doing. But the fact of the matter is, truck driving is one of the most deadliest jobs in the nation. I mean, it's just one of the most dangerous jobs you can be doing. And then when you hear of a fallen truck driver like that, it kind of brings you back down to

earth. And it's just like, you got to be careful because this is serious, you know? Yeah, you have to keep your head in a swivel driving a truck. That's for sure. Yeah. I mean, they say, what, every five seconds, check your mirrors? Yep, yep. You have to anticipate. You have to think of the worst, unfortunately, you know. Yeah. You know, and one of my biggest fears is, and I know this is Octopic and all, but one of my biggest fears is having an accident where I hurt somebody really bad and I survive.

That is something that scares me so bad because I don't know if I could, I certainly wouldn't drive truck anymore. And I don't know how that would affect me, but it would kill me inside. And so it's just one of those things where, you know, that's why I take such careful caution when I'm driving truck. I really try to, you know, I'm a professional, and I try to be a professional. I don't get road rage. Yeah. I mean, I get paid by the hour. I don't know about you, but I get paid by the hour. So I'm not, I'm not going to, you know, drive a million miles an hour and risk having an accident. I'm getting paid by the hour. I'm getting paid to do this. I'm not going to get road rage. I'm not going to, you know, get angry. Somebody cut me off. I've learned to expect it. Driving in the Philadelphia area, you learn to expect it and doesn't catch you off guard. And you just, it's standard, you know, so don't let it get to you. Because the worst. thing you can do is be an emotional driver because that's when accidents happen. Yeah, I used to drive down to Chester a couple years ago down to Scott Paper.

Oh, man, the hood. Yeah, I used to go down to night, though, and there were some characters in a road at night, especially after the Eagles, the Eagles or Phillies game. There were lunatics all over the place. You had to be on your best alert, you know. Yeah. Scott Paper, where is that exactly? I can't remember.

I know I've been there, though. It's Kimberly Clark. It's Kimberly Clark. It's right by Harris. casino in Chester. Yes, yes, yes, right off... I'm not familiar with it. I think it's...

Oh, crap. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yep. Exactly. Yeah, it's right there by, is it Albright College, I think? No, Albright's in Reading. Oh, okay.

Because of the day, I can't remember the name of it. It's been a few years since I've been down there. I think Wideners and Chester, isn't it? Um, I'm not sure. All right, anyways, we're getting off topic. Yeah.

I'm sorry, everybody who's listening to this. So listen, Mark, I really appreciate you coming on here and sharing these stories and stuff, man. They were definitely fascinating. So you know how to get a hold of me if you have any more stories to share. Right. It's been fun. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it.

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