The Confessionals - 146: A Touch of Mystery
Episode Date: July 29, 2019On Episode 146: A Touch of Mystery, we have Kevin joining The Confessionals to share the miraculous things that have happened to both himself and the people in his family. He also discusses h...is run-ins with shadow people and what seems to be an entity that is frequently encountered by many other guests on our show! BECOME A MEMBER AND GET ADDITIONAL SHOWS: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinSubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaISubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Show Art: Alika Spahn Naihe (www.hauoliart.com)Audio Trailer: Dalton Boyd (www.soundcloud.com/supernova-city)Outro: Avicii Vs The Beatles Vs Martin Solveig - Without You Vs Twist And Hello (Djs From Mars Bootleg)
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This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it.
I saw three long, bony fingers reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear.
When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen.
And he starts running and firing up this giant.
Well, the giant moves.
He's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast and spears Dan holds him up like this.
Somebody else shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face.
They basically decapitated.
Spicer got closer, got sparsum when he got about something pulling at my leg.
And I look over and there are two small gray entities.
And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed.
I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air.
Couldn't breathe and it couldn't move.
and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster.
Yep.
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Now, this week we have Kevin coming on the show, and Kevin is going to share some of the miraculous things that he's experienced, but also more paranormal type things.
We are all over to place with Kevin, so let's get to it right after the trailer for this coming week's member episode.
Dreams started happening.
I started having really vivid dreams.
And all of that, it was starting to get me, get to me.
And I think this thing or demon or I don't know what it was, just totally like latched on to me.
I lost a lot of, I love.
And I had this girl over there.
She was over the house.
And I said, hey, I'm going to go get something to drink.
I'm going to go sitting on my bed.
And the door was open to my room, and she was on her phone.
And she sat in her peripherals, she saw a little girl.
She saw the whole make of the short.
She said she had to have been like four foot something, you know.
She could see the long black hair.
And she thought it was one of my little sisters.
So she said, you know, hi, I'm so on someone's friends, you know, I were you.
And she said she looked up and there was nobody there.
Anything strange, she just figured she scared her and she ran back upstairs.
So I come downstairs
And she said
Hey I met one of your little sisters
I think
And I was like
You did
She was like yeah
She was like
She was just down here
She was like well one of them was
And I was like
No they're at my grandparents house
And she kind of just like
Looked at me
And she got really scared
And she's like no
I saw a little girl
In the basement down here
She was standing in your doorway
And I was like
No
So I started telling me
everything that's been happening to me, and she never came over after that.
She just...
Okay, today we have Kevin coming on the show, and Kevin has some paranormal experiences,
miracle experiences, and it's just going to be a fun time talking with Kevin about some of the
things that he's experienced and what his mom has experienced.
But Kevin, how you doing, man?
Not too bad, Jew.
Not too bad.
I'm good, man.
I'm good.
So we just got chatting here a little bit and stuff, and you share with me some of the things
that you wanted to talk about tonight, including...
what you experienced that you said was a miracle.
And I listened to you, share that story to me.
And it does sound like a miracle to me.
So I'm excited to get you going on that.
But before we get into that stuff, I want to get you going on some of these shadow figures that you had seen.
I believe it was when you were a kid growing up.
I think you said the first time was when you were sitting in the kitchen.
So what happened there?
So basically what happened was from where basically my dad wasn't there that day at home.
And he usually sits at the top, like basically at the head of the table in the kitchen, right?
And then from where the kitchen is in my old apartment was that there was two openings to walk into it.
There was no doors or anything.
I was just like walk right in from the hallway, you know, usual apartment type of kitchen,
where it's just covered by like a small wall and had two openings to go in and out.
And then from where my dad would usually say where I was sitting that day, it was just literally me, my mom, and my little brother.
So she's sitting beside me and my little brother sitting across from me.
And I was probably maybe, I'd say, probably six, a bit more than that.
So around maybe like probably 10.
I wasn't too, too young, but still old enough to remember what I saw.
So this was probably like in the afternoon, you know, during the summertime.
So there was no school.
So just literally eating, you know, lunch.
And then all of a sudden I just look up.
And then from where the kitchen is, to the second opening of the kitchen,
you can literally see the opening of my parents' room.
And what they had stuck on that side of the wall near the door was a treadmill.
So what I literally saw was this black shadow figure, whatever you want to call it.
Like, I mean, fully black.
Like, there was no, it wasn't like a chromy car looker and, like, full on black.
Like, there was, like, light could not pass through it.
Just, like, no eyes, no nothing.
It was if someone who was wearing a full black jump,
suit, but like I said, there was nobody in the house, right?
So it literally looked like something that was shadowy, but it wasn't see if it was fully black.
So basically it appeared out of nowhere, and I'm just looking at it.
I wasn't scared of anything.
You know, you'd expect kids to be scared of this, but I just kept looking at it.
And then as it turned around from the door, it looked at me and then looked back into my
parents' room.
And then it just literally strolled from my parents' room into my room that you can't
see until you pop your head.
through the hallway. And it just disappeared. I got up, I looked, there was nothing there.
I didn't mention anything to my mom because, you know, she'd probably call me crazy
for something like that. So I just kept it to myself. And then that was the first time that
happened. Like I said, there was nothing too scary. Like, like I said, there was no face,
there was no nose, there was no eyes. It was just like a completely black, black figure.
And then the second time that happened was, I was sitting and watching TV.
I'm pretty sure nobody was home that night
this was probably like a year or two later
just babysitting my little about it
that was asleep I'm not sure if I explained to you
in the email how I was living on the second
our apartment was on the second floor
so we had like this alleyway behind us that had like one light
like one amber light that would light it up like an
like a normal street light so I'm just literally watching TV
and I'm sitting on that beloved chair if you want to call that one single chair
you can sit on watching TV and next thing you know just something told me to
turn right and just look down the hallway where at the end of the hallway was my room but the door
was open and then I had a window in my room facing towards the alley. Basically what happened was
I just turned around and next thing you know I see the side profile of a face just walk from one end
of the window to the other end of the window because you can see basically like 90% of the window
just sitting from the hallway if the door was open but like I said I never really thought anything
about it until I started listening to your show and you know got into more into the
like supernatural paranormal stuff in the shadow figures.
And then we ended up moving from that apartment a few years ago.
And then my little brother's friend still lived in that neighborhood.
So I was dropping him off there one time.
I'm like, let me pass by and check that old alley to see how high was it.
Maybe, you know, maybe I thought like it was a person passing by at night.
You know, maybe I just saw his reflection.
Then I realized that you'd have to be at least, at least 12 feet tall for your reflection to show up on that window.
because the amber light was above you
and like I said it was a second floor apartment
so there was really no way
of anybody that was crossing
you know walking down that alley
of basically showing up
you know showing up as a reflection
on the window so that's what made me think
you know what if it was that same
whatever you want to call it shadow figure
you know whatever name
you know everybody has different names for them right
so I'm really not too sure what it was
but like it creeps me out more today than I did when I was a kid when I think about it.
Now, you know what I mean?
So that was the first one and two encounters that I had in regards to a shadow figure.
Luckily, never had anything since.
Nothing at the new house.
Nothing weird like that.
But that was the main shadow figure encounters that I had as a child.
Yeah, you know, it's interesting that you weren't scared of it then, but now it kind of makes
you a little uneasy.
And do you think that's because you're a little bit more educated in?
these topics than you were when you were a kid?
I think so, to be honest
to be like I was my whole
ever since I was a kid
I was always into like
I'd say the paranormal but
because of the TV shows that we had here
and you know in Canada we had this TV show
I'm not sure if ever aired in this day
it was called mystery hunters
like two teenagers going in different parts of the world
and places in Canada and the state
you know looking for ghosts
looking for the skunk gave down in Florida
whatever it was you know what I mean so I was
kind of interested in these topics.
But the older you get, you know, the more you get
educated into it and stuff
like that. So I was surprised that
I never really creeped me out as a child. You know what I mean?
But now that I think about it, it's
making me a bit iffy
to think that I actually saw something. Because I've literally
never had anything scary happened to me since
since then, literally, you know?
So that's why. Yeah, that's
interesting, man. I've never heard of that show, though.
It must have just aired in
Canada, but, you know, I'm probably the wrong person to talk about TV shows and movies and
stuff.
It's well documented that I don't know half of the movies and TV shows out there.
I don't watch TV a whole lot unless it's an NBA basketball game.
So, which, by the way, your Toronto Raptors are looking pretty darn good this year.
So I don't know if you follow basketball, but if you don't, it's a good time to start.
Yeah, I'm not too crazy about basketball.
My friends are, but I've been keeping up with Toronto Raptors.
It seems like they're doing pretty good this year.
you know, all these,
so that they got new players and some players left.
So, um,
yeah,
I wish I was still into sports,
like when I was a kid,
you know,
but,
uh,
I guess older you grow,
the more,
the more responsibilities you have.
And,
you know,
I don't have time,
too much time to watch TV,
you know what I mean?
I literally work.
I listen to your podcast.
I listen to,
you know,
Western South Spotsch Chronicles podcast.
Really,
that's about it,
you know what I mean?
When I'm at work,
so,
definitely,
uh,
right.
Yeah,
you know,
it's,
it's interesting though,
man,
I do this podcast, but I really do think about some time starting an NBA basketball podcast
because that's, you know, I could talk basketball forever.
So I've kicked it around and stuff, but maybe one of these days I'll actually drop one of
those episodes.
I actually recorded an episode already.
Maybe I'll release it one of these days.
Yeah.
But anyways, let's get back on to you, man, because what you saw was these shadow figures.
Now, I don't expect your memory to be.
100% accurate here.
But do you ever remember thinking you might have seen like a hat on these figures,
like the people talking about these hatmen that everybody sees?
So for the hatman, I've actually heard about it.
I'm not sure if you've heard of this,
this documentary called Nightmare on Netflix.
It's really creepy.
Like the way they made it,
it's about sleep paralysis and the hatman and how like there's always specific
things that people see when they have sleep paralysis.
You know what I mean?
Either the old, the night hag or the hatman or,
or something else that's creepy, you know what I mean?
So it didn't look like it was like the Hatman or anything.
Like I said, it literally looked like a normal-sized adult,
just fully black, like there was no light through it.
It wasn't shadowy, it wasn't smoky.
But like I said, there was no eyes.
There was no nose.
There's no mouth.
That's what I found weird.
You know, you'd expect to see eyes or something creepy out of something like that.
You know what I mean?
But it was just like a completely black figure.
And like I said, nobody was home that day.
my parents are not as petful pranks on me or do pranks on their kids or anything like that.
So that's why it's always been in the back of my head and it just recently popped up when I was listening to your show in regards to, you know, I don't remember which podcast episode it was.
Someone was talking about like shadow figures and that's when, you know, it kicked into my head.
I'm like, oh my God, you know, this actually happened to me and I never, and I had completely pushed it into the back of my mind since I don't remember much about it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I can understand that, man.
I absolutely understand that.
It's been a long time and stuff.
Do you know the history of the place you were living in now?
I know you said it was an apartment building, but was there, you know, was it a building
that was renovated to be an apartment and might have had some kind of history to it or what?
I've always, actually, I was thinking about actually maybe doing some research about it,
but the way it wasn't like an apartment complex where there was like an elevator and you had like 20 floors or something like that.
It was literally like you had the bottom first part of, you know, the apartment.
which was like the first floor and they need to walk up the steps and then you had two doors you had the door to my apartment and then you had the door to the third floor apartment which was more steps because my neighbors slept up there I visited them and then up there they had their own apartment it was literally just three floor apartment and like a neighborhood full of houses you know what I mean so I know that it was probably built somewhere in the late 60s 70s that's really about it we bought it off my mom's cousin when we came from Lebanon when we first
back here. So that's really all I know, you know what I mean, but
I don't think it was built on any sacred land or anything like that or anything,
but I remember hearing, because where it was located,
if there was like a park, like a kid's park, literally like a block down the street.
And then behind there was like the woods where there was like a trail and stuff like that.
And always, my friends used to always talk about supposedly the switch.
I don't know what it was. I never looked into it, but supposedly a wolf that lived,
down in the woods and we're always worn enough to go down there.
So I'm not too sure if that was true or it was not.
I never really looked into it.
That kind of creeped us all out.
So we never wandered too far down into the woods.
You know, we used to have like a trail where we used to take our BMXs and mountain bikes on.
And that was like that was about it.
We never took too deep because we always heard about all this
old house down in the middle of the woods.
So we never bothered up.
So maybe it was something that had to do with that if it was true.
You know, so I'm not sure to be honest with you,
but it seemed like your typical.
neighborhood. It wasn't too old. It didn't seem like there was never any any deaths there. There was
never any fighting or anything. It was a very calm neighborhood with like either old people
living there or just like new couples with no kids. So that's really what it was. Okay, gotcha. Yeah,
that's, I mean, I like asking those kind of questions because, you know, sometimes you hear,
you know, some history of the place and then all of a sudden you start drawing the connection.
You're like, okay, that makes sense. Like you mentioned about like burial grounds or something like that.
like sometimes you know here are buildings and stuff houses that were built on you know in ancient
Indian burial grounds and or you know it it was owned by an axe murderer you know so it's like
oh okay that makes sense yeah now I know why you were seeing what you're seeing but um exactly so
I mean has anybody else ever you know said anything to you about seeing something or was this
something that you really only feel like you saw I think to be honest with you it was only
my little brother's not too into the paranormal
doesn't really care about it as much as I do
I don't think I've never asked him to be honest with you
if he's ever seen anything
but I should
I should definitely ask him because he was
he was always scared to sleep on his own
until he was like 12 or 13 you know what I mean
because of something and whenever
we were forced to put him to sleep
in his own bed up until he got used to it
you know what I mean he was always curled up
up to his face
like I mean like he put the blanket right
up into his face and he'd look like old
nun, you know what I mean? Because he was scared
of something. We don't know what it was. Maybe because I used to
creep him out with stories, I'm not too sure if he saw something
or anything like. I'd have to
double check and ask him to see if he's noticed anything.
But my mom's never noticed anything other than that
story I told you about, you know,
supposedly visiting her in that old apartment.
My dad finds it crazy
that I talk about these kinds of stuff.
Even though my mom actually mentioned something
to me that he always sees this really
ugly face up very close to him at night.
And he never said anything about it.
I'm like, speak about it.
He just won't speak about it.
And then my mom pulled me aside.
He's like, yeah, he always sees like this really ugly sort of face that nobody's ever
explain to me because they don't want to bring it up.
I'm not too sure why in his sleep.
So I'm not too sure if he's having sleep paralysis.
I'm not sure if he's actually seeing something that's coming or anything like that.
But there's never, nothing goes on in the house.
We bought our brand new, our house was literally built and we moved into it.
So it wasn't built on any, it was built on an old horse race track that used to be in the area.
But that's about it.
I'm not sure if a horse died there and a horse can come back and hauntier or like a jockey maybe died on that.
I'm not too sure.
But, you know, me personally, I think I was the only one that's ever experienced anything.
That had to do with the shadow figures in the old apartment.
You know, never had the chance to ask my parents because, like I said, they did, they, they,
think I'm a bit crazy when I talk about this kind of stuff, or Bigfoot or anything like that.
But, you know, so I'm not too sure.
Yeah, that's fine.
I mean, I was just, I was curious.
But, you know, you said that you were into the paranormal now.
Is that something that was spawned from your experiences or were you into the paranormal
beforehand?
I think, I think maybe that started it.
I'm not too sure if maybe that sparked it and maybe why that I continued on there.
But like I said, I said, what really sparked it was that TV show.
there was literally that TV show called Mystery Hunters, like I said,
and then there's other show that airing on some American network.
I'm not too sure what it's called, sorry, not airing right now,
but they're re-airing it.
It's called Creepy Canada or something like that.
I remember watching something and seeing something that happened
actually not too far away somewhere,
some location here in Ottawa, like at an old fort that's like maybe an hour away from here.
So I literally, I would say that it was a TV show that kind of sparked my interest,
you know what I mean, in regards?
that. And just, it grew on from there, you know, the older I got, the more I got into it and, you know,
started learning about whatever you want, demonology and, you know, ghosts and aliens. And, you know,
the usual stuff that people, I'm not saying I'm a full believer, but like, it's, it's always nice to
have a skeptical point of view about things, you know what I mean? So, but there's a lot of things that can be
explained that I don't let, you know, not everything is a hoax in this world, you know what I mean?
So, yeah, absolutely, man. I,
I get it. Not everything can be a hoax. I mean, when you have so many people sharing these
experiences that they've had, certainly not everybody can be either lying or just totally mentally
insane. So, I mean, somebody's got to be telling the truth. You did mention it just a few minutes
ago about your mom. So why don't you kind of go into that, man? Because you said that your mom
had supposedly encountered a saint. So talk to us about it. So yeah, so basically what happened
was when my dad
was working the late night shift overnight
because he used to be a taxi driver
and this was when my little baby
was sorry when my little brother was still a baby
sleeping in the crib so he was in another room
so I would just go and sleep beside my mom
in the bed right or you know what I mean so
and I never knew about this until she told me
maybe like a few months later that
and she didn't even tell me she mentioned it to one of my
one of my aunts and then
when I heard the story I kid you
not like it's like you drain the blood out of
I freaked out.
I'm like,
how could you not tell me
that this happened
while I was sleeping
right beside you?
So basically how she explained
it was that she was asleep
and then in through the door
of her bedroom
she saw this figure
that was dressed as a monk.
Like you know how monks
dressed up like the full black robe
and like the hood?
So she basically saw that
but he was not walking.
She said he was literally floating
from the main door
and floated all across
the front bedroom
and then pulled up beside her.
And then he basically put her hand,
his hand, sorry, to her face.
Not like as if he was going to slap her
or, like, choke her or anything like that,
but it was like, she's like,
I felt I was like in a meditative state,
like a trans state almost, you know what I mean?
Because like I said, my mom was really religious
and stuff like that.
So literally, as soon as he got close to her,
she told me, I literally smelled the smell
that you smell when you go up to the monitor,
stairs. There's a certain smell that you smell when you go up there. It's very fresh, clean air.
You know, there's no pollution. They don't let too many cars up there when people visit and whatnot.
So it's like as if I just got teleported back, you know, back to the homeland and had to
smell the smell and came back. And that's basically that was the first encounter she had with
something that legitimate. So I'm not too sure if he did something or anything like that.
But I have to definitely double check and ask you because like I never really wanted to bring
it up to her again because it's not that she was creeped out but like it was like something very
emotional to her you know what i mean but like that you know you know even though it's insane and
supposed to be something good i freaked out as a child you know like i was like imagine you're
sleeping beside your mom and something comes floating into the room pulls up to your mom beside you
and just disappears you know what i mean i was like wow that's that's pretty insane you know so
that's something that you know i'm sure your mom uh found it as a deeply spiritual experience for her
And I think this is a good time to just kind of bleed it right in.
Why don't you talk about what you experienced that you called a miracle?
Because maybe these two things are a little bit related.
Who knows?
To be honest with you guys, I think they might be.
I do too.
The specific saint that I'm talking about actually did a miracle on some lady in Arizona not too long ago.
She was completely blind and the next thing, you know, she woke up and she had vision again.
and then she remembers seeing him specifically
performing surgery.
Not necessarily performing surgery,
but like doing something.
I'm not too sure what the story was.
I'd have to look into it
or maybe even send you a link about it.
Literally a woman in Arizona.
You know, he's revered in Mexico
and stuff like that
and mostly all over the world
with Catholic specifically.
So basically what happened with me
is that as a child,
I had epilepsy.
So, you know, you have constant seizures
and not necessarily constant seizures on a daily basis,
but some people have daily seizures,
some people just happen out of nowhere.
Like it was to the point where I had a seizure in church one time
and almost gave my great uncle a heart attack
because he didn't know what was happening to me.
You know, I just dropped and started foaming at the mouth in church.
They think I was possessed or something.
So basically, we ended up visiting one of the monasteries
of these saints in Lebanon,
and then there was this little church that was built underneath the monastery.
And like I said, it was very, very small church.
wasn't huge, like the main church that's upstairs or anything like that.
So nobody was there, nobody was sitting there other than me.
Not like, not my mom, not my dad, because they had lost me that.
Not necessarily they had lost me, but like, you know, they were looking for me around.
So I just went by myself and supposedly wandered there for some strange reason.
I don't remember why or anything like that.
So what ended up happening was I'm just sitting there.
And then, you know, like I said, out of nowhere, there was no, but like there was no priest,
there was no monks, nobody visiting in that church.
And then I'm just sitting there.
And next thing, you know, this piece of candy, like wrapped candy just hits me in the head.
I'm like, what is this?
It just drops.
I'm like, oh, candy, right?
You know, every kid likes candy, so why wouldn't I take it?
And then next thing, you know, I just look up and I see this bright white light like you see in movies, like, you know, the gates of heaven are opening or something like that.
Like, literally a very bright white light coming from the ceiling.
And it wasn't like the light that they had because there was no lighter than the candles lighting up this church because it's a very old church underneath the actual main church.
So basically, like I said, I saw this white light, and then like three, four candies dropped and just like, oh, candy.
So I just started eating them.
And then, you know, I ran to my mom and I told my mom, like, oh, look, it was candy.
She's like, who gave it to you?
I'm like, nobody gave it to me.
It just fell out of discussion.
Like, what do you mean?
It fell from the roof.
I'm like, it fell from the roof.
And she's like, and she just brushed it off, like, nothing happened.
You know, I mean, oh, she thinks that maybe a monk gave me candy or, like, one of the priests or something that's giving me candy or something like that.
So basically, when I went back to do my.
my test for the epilepsy where they put like these sticky things so you had to measure the
electricity in your brain like they do to, you know, to measure specific muscle movement or
something like that on your body. Same kind of concept. All the electricity had disappeared after
had eaten that candy. So the appointment was maybe two weeks to a month later. I'm not sure. I can
definitely double check with my mom to see what it was. I think I still have the papers
proving that there's nothing left. There was nothing left.
of some sort of electricity in my brain.
And ever since then, I never needed the medication that I used to take for it.
Never had a seizure, never had any complications from it.
And nothing, nothing at all, you know, and I'm very thankful for that if that was a saint
or whoever will cause this miracle that if you want to call it that for that.
You know what I mean?
So it's a pretty crazy story.
I guess that people call me crazy about it.
People laugh at me when I mentioned it to my friends.
I'm not, I'm not BSing you.
You know what I mean?
Like, this is legit.
Like, the candy fell from the sky of the church, and I just ate it.
And then two to three weeks later, you know, I go for my appointment.
Nothing's there left.
And like I said, same thing with my cousin.
She has epilepsy.
She's 25.
She's a bit older than me.
And she still takes this medication until this day.
And her epilepsy's not gone.
She still has a bit of complications from it and whatnot.
You know, so I'm very, very grateful that that ended up happening to me.
You know what I mean?
so yeah so i mean uh you get to eat some candy some fruit snacks and you get healed that's pretty
cool exactly yeah like god north in mysterious ways you know what i mean so maybe he saw that as a way
of killing me by just dropping me candy instead of doing them in some other way i'm not too sure
like i said it's a very high possibility but like why basically make me feel like i just i should
just walk to this to this little church you know what i mean and just sit there by myself and like
I recently went back to the homeland, which is Lebanon, this past summer,
and I went and visited that church.
And I looked around, and I'm like, wow, like, I mean, it looks smaller now because I've gotten older.
But, you know, I double-checked.
I looked up.
I looked everywhere.
I even asked the monks around.
I told the moment I was sort of like, that's pretty, you know, pretty insane, you know what I mean?
That, you know, nobody was there and nobody could have actually gotten Kenyon thrown it at you.
Because it was no, like, second level steps where, like, the choir would sit and sing, you know what I mean?
So there was none of that, like, it said.
So there's no way for someone to just chuck candy from behind and, and, you know,
pool me into thinking that, you know, here's some candy, eat it, you know what I mean,
and not confront me about giving me candy.
It just literally came out of nowhere.
I consumed it.
And then, you know, ever since then, I've never had any complications or any seizures or anything like that,
thankfully.
You know, I find it interesting that, you know, because miracles happen, right?
And so, I mean, at least I believe miracles happen.
And clearly you believe miracles happen.
but I mean when we're talking about a supernatural power it whatever you believe you know
whoever that supernatural power is candies seems so far like that unnecessary right it just
if if there was um if there was a somebody that needs to be healed it just it's like if you have the
power to do that there is no
need for the consumption of the candies. I just wonder what the candy's purpose was. Like,
sometimes when there's things that happen when it comes to miracles and things like that,
it's like there's symbolism. You know what I mean? Like there's, like you doing something is the act
of faith that allowed the open door for the healing to take place. But you're a kid and you're
just, you know, eating some candy that you thought was, that was, you know, hey, cool, candy,
you know, but you drew the connection where, you know, from that point on, the epilepsy was gone.
The next time you went to the doctor, it was completely gone, right?
Completely gone. Yeah, like I said, I've never had a seizure, never experienced anything nowhere
near it. Like I said, the electricity was whatever happens. I'm not sure how this, you know,
I don't remember specifically how epilepsy worse or anything like that. Like I said, every single thing
that has to do with epilepsy or seizures
was just completely gone out of me.
Like it's just one day it was there,
you know, next thing you know,
it's completely fun, literally.
And it was after that,
what I noticed was after that,
after that encounter that I suppose,
you know,
that I had with the candy.
But like I said,
I've always tried to draw a connection
as to why candy,
you know what I mean?
Why can,
have you just healed me overnight
of some sort of way or, you know,
I'm not too sure.
I'm not too sure why it was possibly candy.
It drives me crazy until the day to think about it
and make a connection.
But I literally realized
it was after that fact that I found that candy
and I ate it that literally fell from, you know,
the roof of this church that's built into a rock,
not even wood, you know?
And it was, like I said, there wasn't a full-sized church
where there was like a choir where they can sit
and they had the organ upstairs or anything like that.
Like I said, it's a little tiny church
where you have to bend down to the door and get into it
and stuff like that.
Really old church.
and that's literally where it happened.
It was all by myself that day.
Like I said, there was nobody there coming off for me candy.
No monks, no priests, no family friend, not my mom, not my dad.
Nobody, you know what I mean?
So that's why, that's what I find it pretty crazy that, you know, that happened to me.
And I got really lucky with that, fortunately.
Yeah, absolutely, man.
You know, and to kind of relate with you a little bit, I believe that I was personally.
personally healed physically. I had at one time in my life in my early 20s, I actually wasn't
even 20s. I was probably like 19 years old. I had a condition called paracuriditis, which the tissue
on the bottom of my heart swelled a quarter of an inch off my heart. And it was extremely painful
and it's lethal. And the pain felt lethal. I mean, I felt like I was going to die. And they said,
if I, you know, if I didn't take care of this, I was going to die. And, you know, I had a
lot of people praying for me. I was praying. And the day that I was set to go to the heart doctor,
um, I felt a lot better. And when I go there, the doctor gets irritated with me because I'm in
his office and there's nothing wrong with him. Like, or nothing wrong with me. And so like,
I'm sitting there and this doctor's like visibly irritated that I'm wasting his time. And I'm like,
sorry, dude, you know, like, but I feel, I really believe that I was healed. Now, that was through prayer.
but I've also heard of other people's experiences where it's more of a interaction like you had,
not like with candies, but like physically there's some kind of interaction.
But a lot of times, like I said, it kind of leans towards you acting in faith to do something.
And then the response is a healing.
But for you, I don't, I just don't see how, you know, candies is an act of faith.
But I would say that.
I know, right?
It makes no sense.
It doesn't need to.
Yeah, it doesn't need to.
I mean, you're a kid.
Exactly.
And your experience is what you experienced.
There's a lot of things that I believe spiritually that I don't understand and don't make sense to me, but I do believe them.
But you had this experience and your mom had this experience with the saint.
What are the connections there?
I mean, you said that you think that they're kind of related.
and I think that there's probably a possibility that there is a relation there.
Have you ever been able to connect any dots as to the two events, maybe connecting in some way?
Well, to be honest with you, not specifically, because the candy story happened before we moved to Canada.
Then the one where the saint visited my mom was here in Canada.
This was like maybe 10 years ago, I'd say.
Like I said, when my dad was working the night shift, so my mom had nobody to sleep,
She didn't want to sleep alone, right?
So I was like, okay, fine.
I enjoy sleeping in a big bed and I have all this room.
So it might as well, you know what I mean?
So, and I really think it's all because of my mom
because she's really, really, really religious.
And she's even had, like, you know, I'm not too sure.
I don't like to get too much into her and about it,
but, you know, I think it's because of all the prayer that she puts out,
if you want to call it that, you know, to the saint, you know,
to Jesus, to God, that.
Just, you know, the general way of doing things, if, you know, for people that believe in Christianity, per example.
You know what I mean?
So I really think it's because of my mom.
I don't think if it wasn't for all the praying, how my mom did, when I was a kid and I was going through that, that would have happened, to be honest with you.
Because everyone was worried, you know what I mean?
I'm like, oh, like, this basically ruins your life.
You can't necessarily work.
You can't drive.
and you can't go out because they're worried about you,
they just might have a seizure and drop in the middle of the road
and get hit by a car.
You know what I mean?
So, like, I think it was all through the prayer of my family.
But like I said, the whole candy story,
it drives me crazy until this day to think, why candy?
You know what I mean?
Why was it through candy that it seemed that I was healed from my,
from the issues of epilepsy.
And, you know, it's completely gone now.
Like I said, I've never had to take a single drop of medication
ever since then for that, you know what I mean?
thankfully. And my cousin
still has to when she's taking the exact same
medication that I have since she was
six years old and she's 25 now
and she still has to take it. And they still have to
go and get it from a specific place and have to
go through all this nonsense to make sure
she has it. You know what I mean? So that's
that's one of
the things I think
you know,
possibly are interconnected. But
I think it's mostly through prayer
because of my mom, you know, so.
Yeah, so let me ask you a question here. And
You don't have to answer me if you don't want to and stuff.
But I'm curious, what faith is your mom or you, depending on, you know, if you follow your
mom's faith or not?
But what faith is your mom at least?
So basically my family and us basically.
So, yeah, well, it's all the same, you know.
We're technically Eastern Catholic.
So we don't follow necessarily, like basically at my church.
They don't do Latin, like your typical Roman Catholic church.
It's an Eastern Catholic.
So it's mainly in Arabic and Aramaic.
So the language that Jesus used to speak in that area of Israel back in the day.
So it's very similar.
There's a lot of words that sound Arabic because that's where the Arabic language came from.
So it's technically Catholic, but it's called Marinette, so M-A-R-O-N-I-T-E.
We've been in Lebanon for like 1,600 years.
And we have, you know, a few saints that have done lots of miracles.
And the most famous one is that the one that I told you about, which his name is St. Charbel.
Like I said, that lady in Arizona, you know, he's, and the most famous, you know, supposedly
miracle that he's made was on this lady. I forgot what her name was. I'll have to look it up for you.
Basically what happened. She had this disease, this disease that was basically killing her.
And the doctors couldn't find a cure. Nobody could find a cure for her.
And then one night on the 22nd one of these months, I'm not.
see sure. Maybe I can double check with my mom because she knows all of this. And what happened
was she randomly woke up in the night and there was two saints, like two, not necessarily,
I'm not going to say saints, but out of nowhere, two monks appeared out of nowhere and were told
her that, you know, we're doing the surgery on you. And she just let herself go. You know what? I mean,
she thought that, you know, she had just woken up and doctors were there doing the surgery that
had something to do with her throat. So ever since then, she's literally been healed. But the
crazy part about it is that every single
22nd of every month
she bleeds from those
incisions where that
the supposed saints
you know did to her
literally every single 20 second you can go and see
her and visit her in Lebanon every single
20 second they walk up to the monastery
of St. Charbao where he used to live as a monk
as a hermit basically
and then
literally every 20 seconds this is what drives me crazy is that every
20 second she literally bleeds from those cuts
and it just oozes out blood.
You know what I mean?
I'm not too sure if she was making this up,
but like I've seen it physically with my own eyes.
My family has, you know,
a lot of Lebanese people have.
She's very known in Lebanon about what happened with her
and this specific miracle.
You know what I mean?
So, so that's basically it.
So you've seen her in person?
Yeah, I have seen her person.
I've visited her house.
Okay.
You know, my mom has met her before and stuff like that.
And that's like, that's what I don't understand.
Like, why is it still oozing, you know, all these years later,
specifically not the 21st and not the 23rd,
but every 22nd of the month, blood comes out out of the incisions
with a supposed thing, the miracle on her.
And she's completely free of her disease that she had and all of that, you know,
same kind of concept as me, you know what I mean?
But her was different.
It wasn't candy or anything like that.
But it was literally those incisions.
every single 20 second of the month
they bleed.
So that's what's pretty crazy
about that story, you know what I mean?
Like I said, I can definitely send you a story
and you can read into yourself
not saying you have to believe it
or anybody has to believe it,
but literally, like, it's an own story
in my country
about, you know, about this specific lady
that had this miracle with these saints.
And that's not the only miracle he's done.
He's done so much miracles that, you know,
there's some miracles that he's done
that the monastery
and people won't talk about
because they're so big.
And there's lots of canes.
that are left at the monastery from people that were just,
you know,
randomly healed from their walking problems.
I mean,
the last time I saw it,
because I know they removed them this past visit that I went to visit,
probably over a good over 100 canes just lying there
on the side of the monastery that people just,
you know,
randomly got healed from just going there or visiting there or praying or,
or for example,
or doing something that had to do with prayer or something like that.
and this, like I said, just miraculously healed.
That's crazy as it sounds, you know what I mean?
It's hard to believe sometimes stories like this, but like no BS.
Like I witnessed it with my own eyes, you know what I mean?
So he's very, like I said, very famous saint in the Catholic Church technically now,
since they canaanized him back in 19, in the early 70s from what I can remember, you know.
Like I said, he was just a hermit that lived as a monk, as a Maronite monk in Lebanon.
in one of these monasteries, you know, and like imagine the life that they had to go to right like that,
because, you know, Lebanon's in the Mediterranean, and, you know, you can literally drive up to the mountains,
a snowboard and ski, and then the 30-minute drive down to the beach, and you're on the beach, you know what I mean,
all in one day.
So they had a really rough time living up in the mountains during the winter because where he slept,
they so have the little piece of, like, it wasn't even a bed, it wasn't even a mattress.
It was just literally like this thing that he rolled out and he slept on.
And his pillow was made out of wood.
And that's literally what he slept on.
He slept on a pillow that was literally a log of wood.
And it's still there.
You can still go and visit it and see it.
And I find that pretty crazy that, you know, someone could actually live out that life of, you know, no speaking, just living off the land, not letting their parents visit him,
sleeping on a log of wood in the middle of winter.
And it's like freezing cold outside, you know.
It's like, it's pretty crazy.
pretty crazy the story.
The story he has to go through.
You know what I mean? Like I said,
it's insane. I can definitely send you some links
if you want to look more into it.
Even about that Arizona woman, that literally happened
like two years ago, which wasn't even too long ago.
You know, so.
Yeah. Was his name
Daphne Gutierrez?
Yeah, that's right. Exactly. So Daphne Guterres.
Yeah. So she's completely
from blindness, yeah, an Arizona woman, yeah.
That's right. Okay. Okay. Gotcha.
Gotcha. Well, listen, before we get out of here, I want you to take just a moment here and share your friend's experience with Shadow People. I know she told you an experience and she knew that you were going to be on the show. So I want you to share her Shadow Person experience that she shared with you.
Yeah, sure. So she basically, she works with me. And we were never really close up until I had to, you know, I work at a call center. So I had to end up sitting beside her one time because there's no other same thing. And you just start talking.
and she's into the paranormal, like not necessarily into the paranormal.
She's a bit of a skeptic, but like she's had stuff happen to her, like I said.
So one of the things that happened was that she had opened the door to go down to her basement.
And, you know, if you're familiar with like old basement doors, you know, you can just open the door and the stairs lead right away down to the basement, like the old unfinished basement.
So as she was so, she opened the door and as she was turning her head to turn the light on, she turned back.
And as she looked down the hallway, she saw the shadow figure.
and it just immediately, as soon as she saw it,
it booked it down to the right and just disappears at the base.
She's like, oh, crap, what now?
So she calmly walked down, she turned the lights on, calmly walked down,
looked around, couldn't find anything.
And that was like her first encounter with that.
And the other creepy encounter that she had was she actually took a picture of this,
and I'm trying to find it so maybe I can send it to you
and have her email it to you possibly.
If you've ever seen a window in the washroom,
You know how there's the main glass
And then in between the glass
There's like the
The net for like bugs and stuff
And then there's the other piece of glass
Where you can just open up the window
And then it opens and stretches out
So
Basically what she saw was a handprint
On the inside of the first class window
But not on the outside
Like where she put her palm on
But like as someone had reached in
Through the net perfectly
And like
You know somehow magically
Got his full hand past the net
and didn't rip it, didn't do anything,
and imprinted his, whatever, imprint of his right hand on the window.
So she freaked out about that because she doesn't know who it is.
It's only her and her sister that live in the house.
The window's on the second floor, so nobody can actually reach up and break through the net.
Like I said, the net was not broken.
She really has a picture of this, and you can see, it's like,
you know when something's fogged up and you just put your hand on it,
and then you can see the imprints of your hands,
like when you used to do hand paintings of a kid,
like you can just see the, like, a good chunk.
of like, you know, your fingers and like just a bit of your hand that was missing and you can
see the rest of your, of like your palm.
Same kind of concept, just literally on the inside of the first window, but that's what drove
me crazy, is that the net wasn't broken.
Like I said, it's on the second floor, so nobody can actually reach up and just, you know,
break the net and get his hand in there.
So like, how did that get there?
You know what I mean?
It's not like it's been there for a while.
She's never noticed it or anything like that.
So that's, you know, she came back to work one day and showed us this picture, and we're all
freaking out.
at work. I'm like, how did this happen? How did someone's hand get past the net and printed onto the
inside of the first piece of window? You know what I mean? So, like, that was one of her two in cash. I know
she has many more, like a few more that has happened to her with, you know, something that's,
that was like a basket that was sitting somewhere for like six months that was never moved from
there. And next thing, she hears the screeching. And then next thing, you know, it just drops out of
nowhere off the shelf, you know?
And she literally had them touched that whole basket.
So a good six months and nobody moved it.
And it wasn't the cat and it wasn't her sister.
And she was just literally sitting there.
She's like, what's that scratching noise?
And she turned around and the thing just dropped over as it was like some
like, sorry, poltergeist activity or something like that.
So pretty crazy stories that she's had that happened at her house.
And we tried to figure out if there was something in her house, it was built on something.
And now it was just like an old house that was built in the 70s.
Nobody was killed there.
you know, same kind of story as my old department building.
It was nothing iffy about it or anything like that, you know what I mean?
So that's what she finds weird is that where did this shadow figure that she saw in the basement appear out of?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely, Kevin.
Well, I think that, you know, she probably has something going on there if things are kind of falling off edges and all that crap.
And you know, it's not the cat.
It's just, I don't know, that kind of stuff is a little freaky.
but I'll tell you what man I appreciate you coming on and sharing these experiences and stuff
and you know you know how to get a hold of me if you ever have anything else you want to share
well thank you very much for the opportunity Tony it was good to get this off my chest and have
someone kind of believe me or you know but not call me crazy about about the whole candy story
and you know the shadow encounters that I've had about my house you know what I mean so like yeah
it's good that you do this let people talk on here and uh let you know things get off their chest
Well, that's the goal, man. That's the goal. The goal is that people have experiences and they need to get it off their chest. And so we have this platform for people to do that. Man, it was a pleasure talking to you. And thank you for being on. Take care.
Okay. And you thought we were done, but we're not done. Why? Because we were just talking to Kevin off air. And he started sharing some experiences that he should have shared on the actual interview. So Kevin, you're back. How you doing, man?
not too bad thank you for uh for putting me back i'm sorry i can you have the story at first it literally
just click back that's why so yeah man so let's just get right into it dude uh you're talking about
sleep paralysis just start from the beginning what you experience because this is something that
dude you should have shared during the main interview going for it man yeah yeah that's perfect
uh so yeah so just one night maybe like you know a good two years ago i was just you know
after a long day of work you know used to work as a uh a car detail
So we had a long day at work that day.
It was pretty destroyed.
Came back home.
You know, just got into bed.
I had, you know, I have a TV in my room.
Put on Netflix, you know, some random alien documentary.
And then just basically knocked out to it and turned it off.
I didn't, you know, sleep.
You know, I'm not too creeped out by these documents.
It doesn't mean anything to me, you know what I mean?
So literally as I passed out, you know, maybe probably like a good 20, 30 minutes into my sleep.
I abruptly get awoken into the sleep paralysis state, like it's like what people happen.
And this has never happened to me before or anything like that.
So I'm looking around and I see this really bright light like you see in your typical alien movie shining through the blinds in my room.
You know, and I'm still not freaking out at this moment, but I'm like, what's happening?
Why can't I move my arms?
Why can't I talk?
And the next thing you know, out of nowhere, three beings that look like aliens, if you want to call them, whatever, you know, grayish, some sort of some fuzzy-looking faces.
It couldn't really tell.
They didn't look like your typical gray aliens or like the aliens, you know, all.
like in movies or anything like that.
And then when I saw them, I started freaking out, you know,
because it literally physically felt like two of them were pulling up my leg
to try to drag me with them somewhere.
And the other third one was just sitting there watching me.
And I'm freaking out and freaking out and freaking out.
I'm trying to break free from this paralysis state that I'm in.
And luckily broke out of it somehow, some way,
and they just disappeared.
And then literally for the two nights that came along,
that whole night I did not sleep, and the next night I was too terrified to sleep,
so I ended up pulling it all night at the night after,
just so I didn't want to experience that or anything like that again.
So I'm not sure if an abduction gone wrong, if it was just literally my sleep paralysis.
At first I thought it was just, oh, maybe because I was watching the documentary,
and, you know, this just happened because I, you know, my subconscious was maybe thinking about it
or something like that.
But, you know, like I was explaining to you, why is it that with every sleep paralysis,
people see specific things like the nighthag, the hatman, aliens, you know, some weird
legged creature that just comes and sits on your chest or something like that.
Who knows?
You know what I mean?
But like I said, I used to have different theories about aliens.
They were extraterrestrials.
But from the looks of it, you know, the more I listen to people's podcast and get into it,
it seems like they're more interdimensional than they are extraterrestrial beings than anything.
You know what I mean?
So like I said, sorry, I can.
put this on the main interview because it just literally clicked back into my mind.
That was like one of the scariest, scariest moments.
Like I said, I've never been scared.
They're scared when I got into a fight with someone, not, you know,
not seeing the shadow figures when I was a kid, you know,
running away from getting a beating from your parents.
None of it.
None of it.
None of it.
None of that.
Literally, that was like one of the most terrifying experiences I've ever had in my entire life.
And even though, you know, it's supposedly just sleep paralysis and it's just your
imagination taking up.
over. Is it really your imagination taking over or is it something else? You know what I mean?
That just came to be. Kevin, I'll tell you what, Kevin, I'll tell you what, I don't know if this is
comforting to you because I would assume it's not, but I do not think that that was your imagination.
I don't think that that was a dream that you were projecting. I've talked about it on the show before
that I actually have done that in the past where I actually projected dreams into where I actually
thought when I opened my eyes, I was seeing something that really wasn't there.
But what you experienced and what you're sharing is something that other people have shared on this show.
We just not too long ago, I think it was episode 78.
We had Ryan coming on and sharing his alien abduction experience that he had throughout his life along with missing time.
And one of the stories they shared in there was when he was making like a sandwich and he got extremely tired.
He just went into his mom's office and collapsed on the couch and just passed out.
And when he woke up, he was essentially paralyzed.
He couldn't move.
And there was these entities walking up and down the hallway towards his bedroom.
And it looked like they were looking for him.
They were these entities.
Extraterrestrial, you want to call it, grays, you want to call it demons, whatever you want to call it.
It seemed like they were looking for him.
But he wasn't where they thought he'd be.
Where he was.
Yeah, I do remember that episode now.
Right.
So he shares that experience.
but then way back.
I want to say it was probably episode 30, 31, something like that.
I think I called the show Bedroom Visitations.
David comes on the show, and David talks about him in his bed at night with his wife.
He wakes up to having two, it's in the show intro, two great entities pulling him off his bed.
Like he had that happen to him.
And so what you just described was what two other people.
on this show have described pieces of. I don't know if you actually were dreaming this.
I know that it's not comforting, but I don't know what else to tell you other than I've heard
this before and people who shared this with me before shared it as in they weren't dreaming.
This was a very real experience that they had where they were paralyzed and something was trying
to abduct them. Yeah, that's what I find. That's what I found crazy. You know what I mean?
like why was it that specific night
it happened? Like I've watched millions of
you know alien documentaries
and slept to them and passed out
and never experienced anything like that
or of any sort but
why was it that you know that specific
night that it had to happen where I just
you know what are the odds that
you know how could your imagination
cause a bright light right out of your window to pop out of nowhere
you know what I mean and then boom
three entities popped into the room
and try to pull out your like to take you somewhere and drag you off
the bed and like I said I'm lucky
I somehow, you know, you know, broke out of it.
And then, like I said, I woke up and just everything went back to normal.
They disappeared.
The light instantly disappeared.
It sounded like it's faded away or anything like that.
It was just, it was freaky.
I'm telling you, it was genuinely freaky.
And like I said, I've never been that terrifying my entire life of anything that's
ever happened to me.
You know, imagine you experience something like that.
It just freaks you why.
I try to forget about it, but sometimes it just pops out of nowhere when people mention
sleep paralysis and stuff like that.
It just brings back bad.
memories from that night. And, you know, I think I might have experienced one more sleep paralysis
after that, but it was nothing like that. It was a sleep paralysis, but it was a genuine sleep paralysis.
Like, you were just, you just woke up and you just couldn't move, but I didn't see anything.
I didn't experience anything scary. And that was really the last time that happened. So what are
the odds that, you know, just that one time, my supposed imagination took over and wanted to play a trick
on me and, you know, pop aliens into the room and a light outside the window. You know what I mean?
So that's pretty creepy, to be honest with you.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, I don't know, but I'm venturing a guess that if this really did happen to you, that you, what you were watching before you fell asleep, maybe it attracted something.
You know, like people say that when they're messing around with, you know, watching a lot of like horror films or, you know, they were doing something along the lines of experimenting.
with some kind of paranormal idea, then they have an experience. I wonder if people can attract
these experiences to themselves by dabbling and just, you know, innocent watching of TV shows
and things like that. I don't know, but I've heard people say that. And it's like,
is it a coincidence that you were watching those things and then this happens? Or is it something
that was more sinister, more planned, and more intentional. I don't know.
Exactly. Exactly. You know what I mean? That's a good way of putting it because like, like I said,
I've watched many documentaries about, you know, whatever you want to call it, aliens and inductions
and people's stuff. And I passed out to it, like perfectly fine. I'll, you know, like,
I'll go watch a scary movie. It doesn't, it doesn't affect me in any way. I can sleep like a baby.
Even when you watch it's something like scary, like, the had nightmare. Like it's very, very,
like I can probably count the times on my hand
that I've had nightmares in my entire life.
You know what I mean? It's always good dreams.
It's always weird dreams, but it's nothing sinister
where, you know, it's something like demonic, for example,
or alienish or anything like that.
I was genuinely the only time that I've experienced something
that had to do with something sinister like that
where, you know, entities popped into your room
and tried to drag you off the bed and take you somewhere,
which God knows where that would have been, you know what I mean?
But when I think about it, I'm like,
what is the correlation now?
between the entities and the saints and God and whatever you want to call it.
Where does that all come into play?
You know what I mean?
That's what drives me crazy the most is like how is it all related?
You know what I mean?
Is there a correlation there?
Is it good versus evil?
Is that actually true?
You know what I mean?
So like I genuinely don't know.
I really don't know.
It's a question that probably will never be answered, you know?
Well, it will be answered.
It's just, is it going to be answered on this side of life?
That's the question.
On the side of life.
That's true.
That's true. That's very true.
We, you know, people, you know, I just got to tweet today
telling me that I, that I have too much Christian philosophy or something like that on my show.
I'm like, well, I'm a Christian, so, you know, you get what you put in.
And so, you know, and I told the person I said, if you don't like it, just go listen to another show.
But. Exactly. That's what I'm saying that is, I believe.
that, you know, there is life after death and that, you know, our answers are going to be found.
And so when it comes to this stuff, we, on this side of life, we all have different thoughts and
opinions and beliefs. But, you know, one way or another, we're going to find out, even if there
is no God, even if there is no God and this whole thing is made up, we'll find out because when
we die and nothing happens and we wind up turning into worm food, I guess we got our answer.
You know what I mean? So.
Exactly. Exactly.
I'm not really concerned about trying to prove to anybody one thing or another.
We'll all get our answer sooner or later.
Eventually, exactly.
And what you experienced, man, I think you might have been under attack, man.
I really think you might have been under attack.
But, you know, who knows?
Who knows?
It's true.
It's true.
You know, like, why that house, you know what I mean?
So, like, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
Who knows?
Yeah.
It is crazy.
but, you know, maybe one of these days you and I will reconnect on this topic and stuff,
but I just wanted to get this in the episodes so you could share with people with that,
because I couldn't believe it.
When you started sharing this with me, I was like, dude, what are we doing here?
Like, you should have said this earlier.
Yeah, I thought maybe the shadowing candle was a bit more, you know, creepy.
But then I realized, I'm like, oh, crap, I should have talked about my sleep paralysis
because who knows what sleep paralysis actually is, you know,
because they still don't have a proper explanation for it until the day.
So, you know.
Yeah.
Well, I'll tell you what, man.
I do appreciate you coming on.
And we'll finally end the recording here and end this episode.
But I do really appreciate you coming on and sharing that experience with us.
No words.
Thank you very much again for the opportunity, Tony.
And if anything ever happens, I'll get back in contact with you if I get any more.
So from many family numbers, anything like that.
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