The Confessionals - 146: A Touch of Mystery

Episode Date: July 29, 2019

On Episode 146: A Touch of Mystery, we have Kevin joining The Confessionals to share the miraculous things that have happened to both himself and the people in his family. He also discusses h...is run-ins with shadow people and what seems to be an entity that is frequently encountered by many other guests on our show! BECOME A MEMBER AND GET ADDITIONAL SHOWS: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinSubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaISubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionalspodcast@gmail.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Show Art: Alika Spahn Naihe (www.hauoliart.com)Audio Trailer: Dalton Boyd (www.soundcloud.com/supernova-city)Outro: Avicii Vs The Beatles Vs Martin Solveig - Without You Vs Twist And Hello (Djs From Mars Bootleg)

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Starting point is 00:02:33 Now, this week we have Kevin coming on the show, and Kevin is going to share some of the miraculous things that he's experienced, but also more paranormal type things. We are all over to place with Kevin, so let's get to it right after the trailer for this coming week's member episode. Dreams started happening. I started having really vivid dreams. And all of that, it was starting to get me, get to me. And I think this thing or demon or I don't know what it was, just totally like latched on to me. I lost a lot of, I love. And I had this girl over there.
Starting point is 00:03:51 She was over the house. And I said, hey, I'm going to go get something to drink. I'm going to go sitting on my bed. And the door was open to my room, and she was on her phone. And she sat in her peripherals, she saw a little girl. She saw the whole make of the short. She said she had to have been like four foot something, you know. She could see the long black hair.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And she thought it was one of my little sisters. So she said, you know, hi, I'm so on someone's friends, you know, I were you. And she said she looked up and there was nobody there. Anything strange, she just figured she scared her and she ran back upstairs. So I come downstairs And she said Hey I met one of your little sisters I think
Starting point is 00:04:47 And I was like You did She was like yeah She was like She was just down here She was like well one of them was And I was like No they're at my grandparents house
Starting point is 00:04:57 And she kind of just like Looked at me And she got really scared And she's like no I saw a little girl In the basement down here She was standing in your doorway And I was like
Starting point is 00:05:08 No So I started telling me everything that's been happening to me, and she never came over after that. She just... Okay, today we have Kevin coming on the show, and Kevin has some paranormal experiences, miracle experiences, and it's just going to be a fun time talking with Kevin about some of the things that he's experienced and what his mom has experienced. But Kevin, how you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:05:53 Not too bad, Jew. Not too bad. I'm good, man. I'm good. So we just got chatting here a little bit and stuff, and you share with me some of the things that you wanted to talk about tonight, including... what you experienced that you said was a miracle. And I listened to you, share that story to me.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And it does sound like a miracle to me. So I'm excited to get you going on that. But before we get into that stuff, I want to get you going on some of these shadow figures that you had seen. I believe it was when you were a kid growing up. I think you said the first time was when you were sitting in the kitchen. So what happened there? So basically what happened was from where basically my dad wasn't there that day at home. And he usually sits at the top, like basically at the head of the table in the kitchen, right?
Starting point is 00:06:37 And then from where the kitchen is in my old apartment was that there was two openings to walk into it. There was no doors or anything. I was just like walk right in from the hallway, you know, usual apartment type of kitchen, where it's just covered by like a small wall and had two openings to go in and out. And then from where my dad would usually say where I was sitting that day, it was just literally me, my mom, and my little brother. So she's sitting beside me and my little brother sitting across from me. And I was probably maybe, I'd say, probably six, a bit more than that. So around maybe like probably 10.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I wasn't too, too young, but still old enough to remember what I saw. So this was probably like in the afternoon, you know, during the summertime. So there was no school. So just literally eating, you know, lunch. And then all of a sudden I just look up. And then from where the kitchen is, to the second opening of the kitchen, you can literally see the opening of my parents' room. And what they had stuck on that side of the wall near the door was a treadmill.
Starting point is 00:07:43 So what I literally saw was this black shadow figure, whatever you want to call it. Like, I mean, fully black. Like, there was no, it wasn't like a chromy car looker and, like, full on black. Like, there was, like, light could not pass through it. Just, like, no eyes, no nothing. It was if someone who was wearing a full black jump, suit, but like I said, there was nobody in the house, right? So it literally looked like something that was shadowy, but it wasn't see if it was fully black.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So basically it appeared out of nowhere, and I'm just looking at it. I wasn't scared of anything. You know, you'd expect kids to be scared of this, but I just kept looking at it. And then as it turned around from the door, it looked at me and then looked back into my parents' room. And then it just literally strolled from my parents' room into my room that you can't see until you pop your head. through the hallway. And it just disappeared. I got up, I looked, there was nothing there.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I didn't mention anything to my mom because, you know, she'd probably call me crazy for something like that. So I just kept it to myself. And then that was the first time that happened. Like I said, there was nothing too scary. Like, like I said, there was no face, there was no nose, there was no eyes. It was just like a completely black, black figure. And then the second time that happened was, I was sitting and watching TV. I'm pretty sure nobody was home that night this was probably like a year or two later just babysitting my little about it
Starting point is 00:09:06 that was asleep I'm not sure if I explained to you in the email how I was living on the second our apartment was on the second floor so we had like this alleyway behind us that had like one light like one amber light that would light it up like an like a normal street light so I'm just literally watching TV and I'm sitting on that beloved chair if you want to call that one single chair you can sit on watching TV and next thing you know just something told me to
Starting point is 00:09:28 turn right and just look down the hallway where at the end of the hallway was my room but the door was open and then I had a window in my room facing towards the alley. Basically what happened was I just turned around and next thing you know I see the side profile of a face just walk from one end of the window to the other end of the window because you can see basically like 90% of the window just sitting from the hallway if the door was open but like I said I never really thought anything about it until I started listening to your show and you know got into more into the like supernatural paranormal stuff in the shadow figures. And then we ended up moving from that apartment a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And then my little brother's friend still lived in that neighborhood. So I was dropping him off there one time. I'm like, let me pass by and check that old alley to see how high was it. Maybe, you know, maybe I thought like it was a person passing by at night. You know, maybe I just saw his reflection. Then I realized that you'd have to be at least, at least 12 feet tall for your reflection to show up on that window. because the amber light was above you and like I said it was a second floor apartment
Starting point is 00:10:31 so there was really no way of anybody that was crossing you know walking down that alley of basically showing up you know showing up as a reflection on the window so that's what made me think you know what if it was that same whatever you want to call it shadow figure
Starting point is 00:10:48 you know whatever name you know everybody has different names for them right so I'm really not too sure what it was but like it creeps me out more today than I did when I was a kid when I think about it. Now, you know what I mean? So that was the first one and two encounters that I had in regards to a shadow figure. Luckily, never had anything since. Nothing at the new house.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Nothing weird like that. But that was the main shadow figure encounters that I had as a child. Yeah, you know, it's interesting that you weren't scared of it then, but now it kind of makes you a little uneasy. And do you think that's because you're a little bit more educated in? these topics than you were when you were a kid? I think so, to be honest to be like I was my whole
Starting point is 00:11:34 ever since I was a kid I was always into like I'd say the paranormal but because of the TV shows that we had here and you know in Canada we had this TV show I'm not sure if ever aired in this day it was called mystery hunters like two teenagers going in different parts of the world
Starting point is 00:11:48 and places in Canada and the state you know looking for ghosts looking for the skunk gave down in Florida whatever it was you know what I mean so I was kind of interested in these topics. But the older you get, you know, the more you get educated into it and stuff like that. So I was surprised that
Starting point is 00:12:05 I never really creeped me out as a child. You know what I mean? But now that I think about it, it's making me a bit iffy to think that I actually saw something. Because I've literally never had anything scary happened to me since since then, literally, you know? So that's why. Yeah, that's interesting, man. I've never heard of that show, though.
Starting point is 00:12:23 It must have just aired in Canada, but, you know, I'm probably the wrong person to talk about TV shows and movies and stuff. It's well documented that I don't know half of the movies and TV shows out there. I don't watch TV a whole lot unless it's an NBA basketball game. So, which, by the way, your Toronto Raptors are looking pretty darn good this year. So I don't know if you follow basketball, but if you don't, it's a good time to start. Yeah, I'm not too crazy about basketball.
Starting point is 00:12:49 My friends are, but I've been keeping up with Toronto Raptors. It seems like they're doing pretty good this year. you know, all these, so that they got new players and some players left. So, um, yeah, I wish I was still into sports, like when I was a kid,
Starting point is 00:13:01 you know, but, uh, I guess older you grow, the more, the more responsibilities you have. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:06 I don't have time, too much time to watch TV, you know what I mean? I literally work. I listen to your podcast. I listen to, you know, Western South Spotsch Chronicles podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Really, that's about it, you know what I mean? When I'm at work, so, definitely, uh, right.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah, you know, it's, it's interesting though, man, I do this podcast, but I really do think about some time starting an NBA basketball podcast because that's, you know, I could talk basketball forever. So I've kicked it around and stuff, but maybe one of these days I'll actually drop one of
Starting point is 00:13:37 those episodes. I actually recorded an episode already. Maybe I'll release it one of these days. Yeah. But anyways, let's get back on to you, man, because what you saw was these shadow figures. Now, I don't expect your memory to be. 100% accurate here. But do you ever remember thinking you might have seen like a hat on these figures,
Starting point is 00:13:57 like the people talking about these hatmen that everybody sees? So for the hatman, I've actually heard about it. I'm not sure if you've heard of this, this documentary called Nightmare on Netflix. It's really creepy. Like the way they made it, it's about sleep paralysis and the hatman and how like there's always specific things that people see when they have sleep paralysis.
Starting point is 00:14:17 You know what I mean? Either the old, the night hag or the hatman or, or something else that's creepy, you know what I mean? So it didn't look like it was like the Hatman or anything. Like I said, it literally looked like a normal-sized adult, just fully black, like there was no light through it. It wasn't shadowy, it wasn't smoky. But like I said, there was no eyes.
Starting point is 00:14:38 There was no nose. There's no mouth. That's what I found weird. You know, you'd expect to see eyes or something creepy out of something like that. You know what I mean? But it was just like a completely black figure. And like I said, nobody was home that day. my parents are not as petful pranks on me or do pranks on their kids or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:14:54 So that's why it's always been in the back of my head and it just recently popped up when I was listening to your show in regards to, you know, I don't remember which podcast episode it was. Someone was talking about like shadow figures and that's when, you know, it kicked into my head. I'm like, oh my God, you know, this actually happened to me and I never, and I had completely pushed it into the back of my mind since I don't remember much about it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I can understand that, man. I absolutely understand that. It's been a long time and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Do you know the history of the place you were living in now? I know you said it was an apartment building, but was there, you know, was it a building that was renovated to be an apartment and might have had some kind of history to it or what? I've always, actually, I was thinking about actually maybe doing some research about it, but the way it wasn't like an apartment complex where there was like an elevator and you had like 20 floors or something like that. It was literally like you had the bottom first part of, you know, the apartment. which was like the first floor and they need to walk up the steps and then you had two doors you had the door to my apartment and then you had the door to the third floor apartment which was more steps because my neighbors slept up there I visited them and then up there they had their own apartment it was literally just three floor apartment and like a neighborhood full of houses you know what I mean so I know that it was probably built somewhere in the late 60s 70s that's really about it we bought it off my mom's cousin when we came from Lebanon when we first back here. So that's really all I know, you know what I mean, but
Starting point is 00:16:23 I don't think it was built on any sacred land or anything like that or anything, but I remember hearing, because where it was located, if there was like a park, like a kid's park, literally like a block down the street. And then behind there was like the woods where there was like a trail and stuff like that. And always, my friends used to always talk about supposedly the switch. I don't know what it was. I never looked into it, but supposedly a wolf that lived, down in the woods and we're always worn enough to go down there. So I'm not too sure if that was true or it was not.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I never really looked into it. That kind of creeped us all out. So we never wandered too far down into the woods. You know, we used to have like a trail where we used to take our BMXs and mountain bikes on. And that was like that was about it. We never took too deep because we always heard about all this old house down in the middle of the woods. So we never bothered up.
Starting point is 00:17:11 So maybe it was something that had to do with that if it was true. You know, so I'm not sure to be honest with you, but it seemed like your typical. neighborhood. It wasn't too old. It didn't seem like there was never any any deaths there. There was never any fighting or anything. It was a very calm neighborhood with like either old people living there or just like new couples with no kids. So that's really what it was. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, that's, I mean, I like asking those kind of questions because, you know, sometimes you hear, you know, some history of the place and then all of a sudden you start drawing the connection.
Starting point is 00:17:44 You're like, okay, that makes sense. Like you mentioned about like burial grounds or something like that. like sometimes you know here are buildings and stuff houses that were built on you know in ancient Indian burial grounds and or you know it it was owned by an axe murderer you know so it's like oh okay that makes sense yeah now I know why you were seeing what you're seeing but um exactly so I mean has anybody else ever you know said anything to you about seeing something or was this something that you really only feel like you saw I think to be honest with you it was only my little brother's not too into the paranormal doesn't really care about it as much as I do
Starting point is 00:18:22 I don't think I've never asked him to be honest with you if he's ever seen anything but I should I should definitely ask him because he was he was always scared to sleep on his own until he was like 12 or 13 you know what I mean because of something and whenever we were forced to put him to sleep
Starting point is 00:18:39 in his own bed up until he got used to it you know what I mean he was always curled up up to his face like I mean like he put the blanket right up into his face and he'd look like old nun, you know what I mean? Because he was scared of something. We don't know what it was. Maybe because I used to creep him out with stories, I'm not too sure if he saw something
Starting point is 00:18:55 or anything like. I'd have to double check and ask him to see if he's noticed anything. But my mom's never noticed anything other than that story I told you about, you know, supposedly visiting her in that old apartment. My dad finds it crazy that I talk about these kinds of stuff. Even though my mom actually mentioned something
Starting point is 00:19:14 to me that he always sees this really ugly face up very close to him at night. And he never said anything about it. I'm like, speak about it. He just won't speak about it. And then my mom pulled me aside. He's like, yeah, he always sees like this really ugly sort of face that nobody's ever explain to me because they don't want to bring it up.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I'm not too sure why in his sleep. So I'm not too sure if he's having sleep paralysis. I'm not sure if he's actually seeing something that's coming or anything like that. But there's never, nothing goes on in the house. We bought our brand new, our house was literally built and we moved into it. So it wasn't built on any, it was built on an old horse race track that used to be in the area. But that's about it. I'm not sure if a horse died there and a horse can come back and hauntier or like a jockey maybe died on that.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I'm not too sure. But, you know, me personally, I think I was the only one that's ever experienced anything. That had to do with the shadow figures in the old apartment. You know, never had the chance to ask my parents because, like I said, they did, they, they, think I'm a bit crazy when I talk about this kind of stuff, or Bigfoot or anything like that. But, you know, so I'm not too sure. Yeah, that's fine. I mean, I was just, I was curious.
Starting point is 00:20:23 But, you know, you said that you were into the paranormal now. Is that something that was spawned from your experiences or were you into the paranormal beforehand? I think, I think maybe that started it. I'm not too sure if maybe that sparked it and maybe why that I continued on there. But like I said, I said, what really sparked it was that TV show. there was literally that TV show called Mystery Hunters, like I said, and then there's other show that airing on some American network.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I'm not too sure what it's called, sorry, not airing right now, but they're re-airing it. It's called Creepy Canada or something like that. I remember watching something and seeing something that happened actually not too far away somewhere, some location here in Ottawa, like at an old fort that's like maybe an hour away from here. So I literally, I would say that it was a TV show that kind of sparked my interest, you know what I mean, in regards?
Starting point is 00:21:12 that. And just, it grew on from there, you know, the older I got, the more I got into it and, you know, started learning about whatever you want, demonology and, you know, ghosts and aliens. And, you know, the usual stuff that people, I'm not saying I'm a full believer, but like, it's, it's always nice to have a skeptical point of view about things, you know what I mean? So, but there's a lot of things that can be explained that I don't let, you know, not everything is a hoax in this world, you know what I mean? So, yeah, absolutely, man. I, I get it. Not everything can be a hoax. I mean, when you have so many people sharing these experiences that they've had, certainly not everybody can be either lying or just totally mentally
Starting point is 00:21:51 insane. So, I mean, somebody's got to be telling the truth. You did mention it just a few minutes ago about your mom. So why don't you kind of go into that, man? Because you said that your mom had supposedly encountered a saint. So talk to us about it. So yeah, so basically what happened was when my dad was working the late night shift overnight because he used to be a taxi driver and this was when my little baby was sorry when my little brother was still a baby
Starting point is 00:22:19 sleeping in the crib so he was in another room so I would just go and sleep beside my mom in the bed right or you know what I mean so and I never knew about this until she told me maybe like a few months later that and she didn't even tell me she mentioned it to one of my one of my aunts and then when I heard the story I kid you
Starting point is 00:22:37 not like it's like you drain the blood out of I freaked out. I'm like, how could you not tell me that this happened while I was sleeping right beside you? So basically how she explained
Starting point is 00:22:46 it was that she was asleep and then in through the door of her bedroom she saw this figure that was dressed as a monk. Like you know how monks dressed up like the full black robe and like the hood?
Starting point is 00:23:00 So she basically saw that but he was not walking. She said he was literally floating from the main door and floated all across the front bedroom and then pulled up beside her. And then he basically put her hand,
Starting point is 00:23:14 his hand, sorry, to her face. Not like as if he was going to slap her or, like, choke her or anything like that, but it was like, she's like, I felt I was like in a meditative state, like a trans state almost, you know what I mean? Because like I said, my mom was really religious and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:23:31 So literally, as soon as he got close to her, she told me, I literally smelled the smell that you smell when you go up to the monitor, stairs. There's a certain smell that you smell when you go up there. It's very fresh, clean air. You know, there's no pollution. They don't let too many cars up there when people visit and whatnot. So it's like as if I just got teleported back, you know, back to the homeland and had to smell the smell and came back. And that's basically that was the first encounter she had with something that legitimate. So I'm not too sure if he did something or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:24:04 But I have to definitely double check and ask you because like I never really wanted to bring it up to her again because it's not that she was creeped out but like it was like something very emotional to her you know what i mean but like that you know you know even though it's insane and supposed to be something good i freaked out as a child you know like i was like imagine you're sleeping beside your mom and something comes floating into the room pulls up to your mom beside you and just disappears you know what i mean i was like wow that's that's pretty insane you know so that's something that you know i'm sure your mom uh found it as a deeply spiritual experience for her And I think this is a good time to just kind of bleed it right in.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Why don't you talk about what you experienced that you called a miracle? Because maybe these two things are a little bit related. Who knows? To be honest with you guys, I think they might be. I do too. The specific saint that I'm talking about actually did a miracle on some lady in Arizona not too long ago. She was completely blind and the next thing, you know, she woke up and she had vision again. and then she remembers seeing him specifically
Starting point is 00:25:10 performing surgery. Not necessarily performing surgery, but like doing something. I'm not too sure what the story was. I'd have to look into it or maybe even send you a link about it. Literally a woman in Arizona. You know, he's revered in Mexico
Starting point is 00:25:23 and stuff like that and mostly all over the world with Catholic specifically. So basically what happened with me is that as a child, I had epilepsy. So, you know, you have constant seizures and not necessarily constant seizures on a daily basis,
Starting point is 00:25:38 but some people have daily seizures, some people just happen out of nowhere. Like it was to the point where I had a seizure in church one time and almost gave my great uncle a heart attack because he didn't know what was happening to me. You know, I just dropped and started foaming at the mouth in church. They think I was possessed or something. So basically, we ended up visiting one of the monasteries
Starting point is 00:25:57 of these saints in Lebanon, and then there was this little church that was built underneath the monastery. And like I said, it was very, very small church. wasn't huge, like the main church that's upstairs or anything like that. So nobody was there, nobody was sitting there other than me. Not like, not my mom, not my dad, because they had lost me that. Not necessarily they had lost me, but like, you know, they were looking for me around. So I just went by myself and supposedly wandered there for some strange reason.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I don't remember why or anything like that. So what ended up happening was I'm just sitting there. And then, you know, like I said, out of nowhere, there was no, but like there was no priest, there was no monks, nobody visiting in that church. And then I'm just sitting there. And next thing, you know, this piece of candy, like wrapped candy just hits me in the head. I'm like, what is this? It just drops.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I'm like, oh, candy, right? You know, every kid likes candy, so why wouldn't I take it? And then next thing, you know, I just look up and I see this bright white light like you see in movies, like, you know, the gates of heaven are opening or something like that. Like, literally a very bright white light coming from the ceiling. And it wasn't like the light that they had because there was no lighter than the candles lighting up this church because it's a very old church underneath the actual main church. So basically, like I said, I saw this white light, and then like three, four candies dropped and just like, oh, candy. So I just started eating them. And then, you know, I ran to my mom and I told my mom, like, oh, look, it was candy.
Starting point is 00:27:17 She's like, who gave it to you? I'm like, nobody gave it to me. It just fell out of discussion. Like, what do you mean? It fell from the roof. I'm like, it fell from the roof. And she's like, and she just brushed it off, like, nothing happened. You know, I mean, oh, she thinks that maybe a monk gave me candy or, like, one of the priests or something that's giving me candy or something like that.
Starting point is 00:27:33 So basically, when I went back to do my. my test for the epilepsy where they put like these sticky things so you had to measure the electricity in your brain like they do to, you know, to measure specific muscle movement or something like that on your body. Same kind of concept. All the electricity had disappeared after had eaten that candy. So the appointment was maybe two weeks to a month later. I'm not sure. I can definitely double check with my mom to see what it was. I think I still have the papers proving that there's nothing left. There was nothing left. of some sort of electricity in my brain.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And ever since then, I never needed the medication that I used to take for it. Never had a seizure, never had any complications from it. And nothing, nothing at all, you know, and I'm very thankful for that if that was a saint or whoever will cause this miracle that if you want to call it that for that. You know what I mean? So it's a pretty crazy story. I guess that people call me crazy about it. People laugh at me when I mentioned it to my friends.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I'm not, I'm not BSing you. You know what I mean? Like, this is legit. Like, the candy fell from the sky of the church, and I just ate it. And then two to three weeks later, you know, I go for my appointment. Nothing's there left. And like I said, same thing with my cousin. She has epilepsy.
Starting point is 00:28:48 She's 25. She's a bit older than me. And she still takes this medication until this day. And her epilepsy's not gone. She still has a bit of complications from it and whatnot. You know, so I'm very, very grateful that that ended up happening to me. You know what I mean? so yeah so i mean uh you get to eat some candy some fruit snacks and you get healed that's pretty
Starting point is 00:29:09 cool exactly yeah like god north in mysterious ways you know what i mean so maybe he saw that as a way of killing me by just dropping me candy instead of doing them in some other way i'm not too sure like i said it's a very high possibility but like why basically make me feel like i just i should just walk to this to this little church you know what i mean and just sit there by myself and like I recently went back to the homeland, which is Lebanon, this past summer, and I went and visited that church. And I looked around, and I'm like, wow, like, I mean, it looks smaller now because I've gotten older. But, you know, I double-checked.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I looked up. I looked everywhere. I even asked the monks around. I told the moment I was sort of like, that's pretty, you know, pretty insane, you know what I mean? That, you know, nobody was there and nobody could have actually gotten Kenyon thrown it at you. Because it was no, like, second level steps where, like, the choir would sit and sing, you know what I mean? So there was none of that, like, it said. So there's no way for someone to just chuck candy from behind and, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:07 pool me into thinking that, you know, here's some candy, eat it, you know what I mean, and not confront me about giving me candy. It just literally came out of nowhere. I consumed it. And then, you know, ever since then, I've never had any complications or any seizures or anything like that, thankfully. You know, I find it interesting that, you know, because miracles happen, right? And so, I mean, at least I believe miracles happen.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And clearly you believe miracles happen. but I mean when we're talking about a supernatural power it whatever you believe you know whoever that supernatural power is candies seems so far like that unnecessary right it just if if there was um if there was a somebody that needs to be healed it just it's like if you have the power to do that there is no need for the consumption of the candies. I just wonder what the candy's purpose was. Like, sometimes when there's things that happen when it comes to miracles and things like that, it's like there's symbolism. You know what I mean? Like there's, like you doing something is the act
Starting point is 00:31:19 of faith that allowed the open door for the healing to take place. But you're a kid and you're just, you know, eating some candy that you thought was, that was, you know, hey, cool, candy, you know, but you drew the connection where, you know, from that point on, the epilepsy was gone. The next time you went to the doctor, it was completely gone, right? Completely gone. Yeah, like I said, I've never had a seizure, never experienced anything nowhere near it. Like I said, the electricity was whatever happens. I'm not sure how this, you know, I don't remember specifically how epilepsy worse or anything like that. Like I said, every single thing that has to do with epilepsy or seizures
Starting point is 00:31:59 was just completely gone out of me. Like it's just one day it was there, you know, next thing you know, it's completely fun, literally. And it was after that, what I noticed was after that, after that encounter that I suppose, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:11 that I had with the candy. But like I said, I've always tried to draw a connection as to why candy, you know what I mean? Why can, have you just healed me overnight of some sort of way or, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:24 I'm not too sure. I'm not too sure why it was possibly candy. It drives me crazy until the day to think about it and make a connection. But I literally realized it was after that fact that I found that candy and I ate it that literally fell from, you know, the roof of this church that's built into a rock,
Starting point is 00:32:42 not even wood, you know? And it was, like I said, there wasn't a full-sized church where there was like a choir where they can sit and they had the organ upstairs or anything like that. Like I said, it's a little tiny church where you have to bend down to the door and get into it and stuff like that. Really old church.
Starting point is 00:32:55 and that's literally where it happened. It was all by myself that day. Like I said, there was nobody there coming off for me candy. No monks, no priests, no family friend, not my mom, not my dad. Nobody, you know what I mean? So that's why, that's what I find it pretty crazy that, you know, that happened to me. And I got really lucky with that, fortunately. Yeah, absolutely, man.
Starting point is 00:33:19 You know, and to kind of relate with you a little bit, I believe that I was personally. personally healed physically. I had at one time in my life in my early 20s, I actually wasn't even 20s. I was probably like 19 years old. I had a condition called paracuriditis, which the tissue on the bottom of my heart swelled a quarter of an inch off my heart. And it was extremely painful and it's lethal. And the pain felt lethal. I mean, I felt like I was going to die. And they said, if I, you know, if I didn't take care of this, I was going to die. And, you know, I had a lot of people praying for me. I was praying. And the day that I was set to go to the heart doctor, um, I felt a lot better. And when I go there, the doctor gets irritated with me because I'm in
Starting point is 00:34:07 his office and there's nothing wrong with him. Like, or nothing wrong with me. And so like, I'm sitting there and this doctor's like visibly irritated that I'm wasting his time. And I'm like, sorry, dude, you know, like, but I feel, I really believe that I was healed. Now, that was through prayer. but I've also heard of other people's experiences where it's more of a interaction like you had, not like with candies, but like physically there's some kind of interaction. But a lot of times, like I said, it kind of leans towards you acting in faith to do something. And then the response is a healing. But for you, I don't, I just don't see how, you know, candies is an act of faith.
Starting point is 00:34:51 But I would say that. I know, right? It makes no sense. It doesn't need to. Yeah, it doesn't need to. I mean, you're a kid. Exactly. And your experience is what you experienced.
Starting point is 00:35:03 There's a lot of things that I believe spiritually that I don't understand and don't make sense to me, but I do believe them. But you had this experience and your mom had this experience with the saint. What are the connections there? I mean, you said that you think that they're kind of related. and I think that there's probably a possibility that there is a relation there. Have you ever been able to connect any dots as to the two events, maybe connecting in some way? Well, to be honest with you, not specifically, because the candy story happened before we moved to Canada. Then the one where the saint visited my mom was here in Canada.
Starting point is 00:35:44 This was like maybe 10 years ago, I'd say. Like I said, when my dad was working the night shift, so my mom had nobody to sleep, She didn't want to sleep alone, right? So I was like, okay, fine. I enjoy sleeping in a big bed and I have all this room. So it might as well, you know what I mean? So, and I really think it's all because of my mom because she's really, really, really religious.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And she's even had, like, you know, I'm not too sure. I don't like to get too much into her and about it, but, you know, I think it's because of all the prayer that she puts out, if you want to call it that, you know, to the saint, you know, to Jesus, to God, that. Just, you know, the general way of doing things, if, you know, for people that believe in Christianity, per example. You know what I mean? So I really think it's because of my mom.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I don't think if it wasn't for all the praying, how my mom did, when I was a kid and I was going through that, that would have happened, to be honest with you. Because everyone was worried, you know what I mean? I'm like, oh, like, this basically ruins your life. You can't necessarily work. You can't drive. and you can't go out because they're worried about you, they just might have a seizure and drop in the middle of the road and get hit by a car.
Starting point is 00:36:57 You know what I mean? So, like, I think it was all through the prayer of my family. But like I said, the whole candy story, it drives me crazy until this day to think, why candy? You know what I mean? Why was it through candy that it seemed that I was healed from my, from the issues of epilepsy. And, you know, it's completely gone now.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Like I said, I've never had to take a single drop of medication ever since then for that, you know what I mean? thankfully. And my cousin still has to when she's taking the exact same medication that I have since she was six years old and she's 25 now and she still has to take it. And they still have to go and get it from a specific place and have to
Starting point is 00:37:34 go through all this nonsense to make sure she has it. You know what I mean? So that's that's one of the things I think you know, possibly are interconnected. But I think it's mostly through prayer because of my mom, you know, so.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah, so let me ask you a question here. And You don't have to answer me if you don't want to and stuff. But I'm curious, what faith is your mom or you, depending on, you know, if you follow your mom's faith or not? But what faith is your mom at least? So basically my family and us basically. So, yeah, well, it's all the same, you know. We're technically Eastern Catholic.
Starting point is 00:38:13 So we don't follow necessarily, like basically at my church. They don't do Latin, like your typical Roman Catholic church. It's an Eastern Catholic. So it's mainly in Arabic and Aramaic. So the language that Jesus used to speak in that area of Israel back in the day. So it's very similar. There's a lot of words that sound Arabic because that's where the Arabic language came from. So it's technically Catholic, but it's called Marinette, so M-A-R-O-N-I-T-E.
Starting point is 00:38:44 We've been in Lebanon for like 1,600 years. And we have, you know, a few saints that have done lots of miracles. And the most famous one is that the one that I told you about, which his name is St. Charbel. Like I said, that lady in Arizona, you know, he's, and the most famous, you know, supposedly miracle that he's made was on this lady. I forgot what her name was. I'll have to look it up for you. Basically what happened. She had this disease, this disease that was basically killing her. And the doctors couldn't find a cure. Nobody could find a cure for her. And then one night on the 22nd one of these months, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:39:21 see sure. Maybe I can double check with my mom because she knows all of this. And what happened was she randomly woke up in the night and there was two saints, like two, not necessarily, I'm not going to say saints, but out of nowhere, two monks appeared out of nowhere and were told her that, you know, we're doing the surgery on you. And she just let herself go. You know what? I mean, she thought that, you know, she had just woken up and doctors were there doing the surgery that had something to do with her throat. So ever since then, she's literally been healed. But the crazy part about it is that every single 22nd of every month
Starting point is 00:39:55 she bleeds from those incisions where that the supposed saints you know did to her literally every single 20 second you can go and see her and visit her in Lebanon every single 20 second they walk up to the monastery of St. Charbao where he used to live as a monk
Starting point is 00:40:12 as a hermit basically and then literally every 20 seconds this is what drives me crazy is that every 20 second she literally bleeds from those cuts and it just oozes out blood. You know what I mean? I'm not too sure if she was making this up, but like I've seen it physically with my own eyes.
Starting point is 00:40:29 My family has, you know, a lot of Lebanese people have. She's very known in Lebanon about what happened with her and this specific miracle. You know what I mean? So, so that's basically it. So you've seen her in person? Yeah, I have seen her person.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I've visited her house. Okay. You know, my mom has met her before and stuff like that. And that's like, that's what I don't understand. Like, why is it still oozing, you know, all these years later, specifically not the 21st and not the 23rd, but every 22nd of the month, blood comes out out of the incisions with a supposed thing, the miracle on her.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And she's completely free of her disease that she had and all of that, you know, same kind of concept as me, you know what I mean? But her was different. It wasn't candy or anything like that. But it was literally those incisions. every single 20 second of the month they bleed. So that's what's pretty crazy
Starting point is 00:41:25 about that story, you know what I mean? Like I said, I can definitely send you a story and you can read into yourself not saying you have to believe it or anybody has to believe it, but literally, like, it's an own story in my country about, you know, about this specific lady
Starting point is 00:41:38 that had this miracle with these saints. And that's not the only miracle he's done. He's done so much miracles that, you know, there's some miracles that he's done that the monastery and people won't talk about because they're so big. And there's lots of canes.
Starting point is 00:41:49 that are left at the monastery from people that were just, you know, randomly healed from their walking problems. I mean, the last time I saw it, because I know they removed them this past visit that I went to visit, probably over a good over 100 canes just lying there on the side of the monastery that people just,
Starting point is 00:42:08 you know, randomly got healed from just going there or visiting there or praying or, or for example, or doing something that had to do with prayer or something like that. and this, like I said, just miraculously healed. That's crazy as it sounds, you know what I mean? It's hard to believe sometimes stories like this, but like no BS. Like I witnessed it with my own eyes, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:30 So he's very, like I said, very famous saint in the Catholic Church technically now, since they canaanized him back in 19, in the early 70s from what I can remember, you know. Like I said, he was just a hermit that lived as a monk, as a Maronite monk in Lebanon. in one of these monasteries, you know, and like imagine the life that they had to go to right like that, because, you know, Lebanon's in the Mediterranean, and, you know, you can literally drive up to the mountains, a snowboard and ski, and then the 30-minute drive down to the beach, and you're on the beach, you know what I mean, all in one day. So they had a really rough time living up in the mountains during the winter because where he slept,
Starting point is 00:43:11 they so have the little piece of, like, it wasn't even a bed, it wasn't even a mattress. It was just literally like this thing that he rolled out and he slept on. And his pillow was made out of wood. And that's literally what he slept on. He slept on a pillow that was literally a log of wood. And it's still there. You can still go and visit it and see it. And I find that pretty crazy that, you know, someone could actually live out that life of, you know, no speaking, just living off the land, not letting their parents visit him,
Starting point is 00:43:39 sleeping on a log of wood in the middle of winter. And it's like freezing cold outside, you know. It's like, it's pretty crazy. pretty crazy the story. The story he has to go through. You know what I mean? Like I said, it's insane. I can definitely send you some links if you want to look more into it.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Even about that Arizona woman, that literally happened like two years ago, which wasn't even too long ago. You know, so. Yeah. Was his name Daphne Gutierrez? Yeah, that's right. Exactly. So Daphne Guterres. Yeah. So she's completely from blindness, yeah, an Arizona woman, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:14 That's right. Okay. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Well, listen, before we get out of here, I want you to take just a moment here and share your friend's experience with Shadow People. I know she told you an experience and she knew that you were going to be on the show. So I want you to share her Shadow Person experience that she shared with you. Yeah, sure. So she basically, she works with me. And we were never really close up until I had to, you know, I work at a call center. So I had to end up sitting beside her one time because there's no other same thing. And you just start talking. and she's into the paranormal, like not necessarily into the paranormal. She's a bit of a skeptic, but like she's had stuff happen to her, like I said. So one of the things that happened was that she had opened the door to go down to her basement. And, you know, if you're familiar with like old basement doors, you know, you can just open the door and the stairs lead right away down to the basement, like the old unfinished basement. So as she was so, she opened the door and as she was turning her head to turn the light on, she turned back.
Starting point is 00:45:13 And as she looked down the hallway, she saw the shadow figure. and it just immediately, as soon as she saw it, it booked it down to the right and just disappears at the base. She's like, oh, crap, what now? So she calmly walked down, she turned the lights on, calmly walked down, looked around, couldn't find anything. And that was like her first encounter with that. And the other creepy encounter that she had was she actually took a picture of this,
Starting point is 00:45:35 and I'm trying to find it so maybe I can send it to you and have her email it to you possibly. If you've ever seen a window in the washroom, You know how there's the main glass And then in between the glass There's like the The net for like bugs and stuff And then there's the other piece of glass
Starting point is 00:45:52 Where you can just open up the window And then it opens and stretches out So Basically what she saw was a handprint On the inside of the first class window But not on the outside Like where she put her palm on But like as someone had reached in
Starting point is 00:46:08 Through the net perfectly And like You know somehow magically Got his full hand past the net and didn't rip it, didn't do anything, and imprinted his, whatever, imprint of his right hand on the window. So she freaked out about that because she doesn't know who it is. It's only her and her sister that live in the house.
Starting point is 00:46:26 The window's on the second floor, so nobody can actually reach up and break through the net. Like I said, the net was not broken. She really has a picture of this, and you can see, it's like, you know when something's fogged up and you just put your hand on it, and then you can see the imprints of your hands, like when you used to do hand paintings of a kid, like you can just see the, like, a good chunk. of like, you know, your fingers and like just a bit of your hand that was missing and you can
Starting point is 00:46:48 see the rest of your, of like your palm. Same kind of concept, just literally on the inside of the first window, but that's what drove me crazy, is that the net wasn't broken. Like I said, it's on the second floor, so nobody can actually reach up and just, you know, break the net and get his hand in there. So like, how did that get there? You know what I mean? It's not like it's been there for a while.
Starting point is 00:47:07 She's never noticed it or anything like that. So that's, you know, she came back to work one day and showed us this picture, and we're all freaking out. at work. I'm like, how did this happen? How did someone's hand get past the net and printed onto the inside of the first piece of window? You know what I mean? So, like, that was one of her two in cash. I know she has many more, like a few more that has happened to her with, you know, something that's, that was like a basket that was sitting somewhere for like six months that was never moved from there. And next thing, she hears the screeching. And then next thing, you know, it just drops out of
Starting point is 00:47:41 nowhere off the shelf, you know? And she literally had them touched that whole basket. So a good six months and nobody moved it. And it wasn't the cat and it wasn't her sister. And she was just literally sitting there. She's like, what's that scratching noise? And she turned around and the thing just dropped over as it was like some like, sorry, poltergeist activity or something like that.
Starting point is 00:47:58 So pretty crazy stories that she's had that happened at her house. And we tried to figure out if there was something in her house, it was built on something. And now it was just like an old house that was built in the 70s. Nobody was killed there. you know, same kind of story as my old department building. It was nothing iffy about it or anything like that, you know what I mean? So that's what she finds weird is that where did this shadow figure that she saw in the basement appear out of? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah, absolutely, Kevin. Well, I think that, you know, she probably has something going on there if things are kind of falling off edges and all that crap. And you know, it's not the cat. It's just, I don't know, that kind of stuff is a little freaky. but I'll tell you what man I appreciate you coming on and sharing these experiences and stuff and you know you know how to get a hold of me if you ever have anything else you want to share well thank you very much for the opportunity Tony it was good to get this off my chest and have someone kind of believe me or you know but not call me crazy about about the whole candy story
Starting point is 00:48:59 and you know the shadow encounters that I've had about my house you know what I mean so like yeah it's good that you do this let people talk on here and uh let you know things get off their chest Well, that's the goal, man. That's the goal. The goal is that people have experiences and they need to get it off their chest. And so we have this platform for people to do that. Man, it was a pleasure talking to you. And thank you for being on. Take care. Okay. And you thought we were done, but we're not done. Why? Because we were just talking to Kevin off air. And he started sharing some experiences that he should have shared on the actual interview. So Kevin, you're back. How you doing, man? not too bad thank you for uh for putting me back i'm sorry i can you have the story at first it literally just click back that's why so yeah man so let's just get right into it dude uh you're talking about sleep paralysis just start from the beginning what you experience because this is something that dude you should have shared during the main interview going for it man yeah yeah that's perfect
Starting point is 00:50:02 uh so yeah so just one night maybe like you know a good two years ago i was just you know after a long day of work you know used to work as a uh a car detail So we had a long day at work that day. It was pretty destroyed. Came back home. You know, just got into bed. I had, you know, I have a TV in my room. Put on Netflix, you know, some random alien documentary.
Starting point is 00:50:23 And then just basically knocked out to it and turned it off. I didn't, you know, sleep. You know, I'm not too creeped out by these documents. It doesn't mean anything to me, you know what I mean? So literally as I passed out, you know, maybe probably like a good 20, 30 minutes into my sleep. I abruptly get awoken into the sleep paralysis state, like it's like what people happen. And this has never happened to me before or anything like that. So I'm looking around and I see this really bright light like you see in your typical alien movie shining through the blinds in my room.
Starting point is 00:50:51 You know, and I'm still not freaking out at this moment, but I'm like, what's happening? Why can't I move my arms? Why can't I talk? And the next thing you know, out of nowhere, three beings that look like aliens, if you want to call them, whatever, you know, grayish, some sort of some fuzzy-looking faces. It couldn't really tell. They didn't look like your typical gray aliens or like the aliens, you know, all. like in movies or anything like that. And then when I saw them, I started freaking out, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:16 because it literally physically felt like two of them were pulling up my leg to try to drag me with them somewhere. And the other third one was just sitting there watching me. And I'm freaking out and freaking out and freaking out. I'm trying to break free from this paralysis state that I'm in. And luckily broke out of it somehow, some way, and they just disappeared. And then literally for the two nights that came along,
Starting point is 00:51:39 that whole night I did not sleep, and the next night I was too terrified to sleep, so I ended up pulling it all night at the night after, just so I didn't want to experience that or anything like that again. So I'm not sure if an abduction gone wrong, if it was just literally my sleep paralysis. At first I thought it was just, oh, maybe because I was watching the documentary, and, you know, this just happened because I, you know, my subconscious was maybe thinking about it or something like that. But, you know, like I was explaining to you, why is it that with every sleep paralysis,
Starting point is 00:52:09 people see specific things like the nighthag, the hatman, aliens, you know, some weird legged creature that just comes and sits on your chest or something like that. Who knows? You know what I mean? But like I said, I used to have different theories about aliens. They were extraterrestrials. But from the looks of it, you know, the more I listen to people's podcast and get into it, it seems like they're more interdimensional than they are extraterrestrial beings than anything.
Starting point is 00:52:37 You know what I mean? So like I said, sorry, I can. put this on the main interview because it just literally clicked back into my mind. That was like one of the scariest, scariest moments. Like I said, I've never been scared. They're scared when I got into a fight with someone, not, you know, not seeing the shadow figures when I was a kid, you know, running away from getting a beating from your parents.
Starting point is 00:52:58 None of it. None of it. None of it. None of that. Literally, that was like one of the most terrifying experiences I've ever had in my entire life. And even though, you know, it's supposedly just sleep paralysis and it's just your imagination taking up. over. Is it really your imagination taking over or is it something else? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:13 That just came to be. Kevin, I'll tell you what, Kevin, I'll tell you what, I don't know if this is comforting to you because I would assume it's not, but I do not think that that was your imagination. I don't think that that was a dream that you were projecting. I've talked about it on the show before that I actually have done that in the past where I actually projected dreams into where I actually thought when I opened my eyes, I was seeing something that really wasn't there. But what you experienced and what you're sharing is something that other people have shared on this show. We just not too long ago, I think it was episode 78. We had Ryan coming on and sharing his alien abduction experience that he had throughout his life along with missing time.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And one of the stories they shared in there was when he was making like a sandwich and he got extremely tired. He just went into his mom's office and collapsed on the couch and just passed out. And when he woke up, he was essentially paralyzed. He couldn't move. And there was these entities walking up and down the hallway towards his bedroom. And it looked like they were looking for him. They were these entities. Extraterrestrial, you want to call it, grays, you want to call it demons, whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 00:54:28 It seemed like they were looking for him. But he wasn't where they thought he'd be. Where he was. Yeah, I do remember that episode now. Right. So he shares that experience. but then way back. I want to say it was probably episode 30, 31, something like that.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I think I called the show Bedroom Visitations. David comes on the show, and David talks about him in his bed at night with his wife. He wakes up to having two, it's in the show intro, two great entities pulling him off his bed. Like he had that happen to him. And so what you just described was what two other people. on this show have described pieces of. I don't know if you actually were dreaming this. I know that it's not comforting, but I don't know what else to tell you other than I've heard this before and people who shared this with me before shared it as in they weren't dreaming.
Starting point is 00:55:27 This was a very real experience that they had where they were paralyzed and something was trying to abduct them. Yeah, that's what I find. That's what I found crazy. You know what I mean? like why was it that specific night it happened? Like I've watched millions of you know alien documentaries and slept to them and passed out and never experienced anything like that or of any sort but
Starting point is 00:55:49 why was it that you know that specific night that it had to happen where I just you know what are the odds that you know how could your imagination cause a bright light right out of your window to pop out of nowhere you know what I mean and then boom three entities popped into the room and try to pull out your like to take you somewhere and drag you off
Starting point is 00:56:05 the bed and like I said I'm lucky I somehow, you know, you know, broke out of it. And then, like I said, I woke up and just everything went back to normal. They disappeared. The light instantly disappeared. It sounded like it's faded away or anything like that. It was just, it was freaky. I'm telling you, it was genuinely freaky.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And like I said, I've never been that terrifying my entire life of anything that's ever happened to me. You know, imagine you experience something like that. It just freaks you why. I try to forget about it, but sometimes it just pops out of nowhere when people mention sleep paralysis and stuff like that. It just brings back bad. memories from that night. And, you know, I think I might have experienced one more sleep paralysis
Starting point is 00:56:42 after that, but it was nothing like that. It was a sleep paralysis, but it was a genuine sleep paralysis. Like, you were just, you just woke up and you just couldn't move, but I didn't see anything. I didn't experience anything scary. And that was really the last time that happened. So what are the odds that, you know, just that one time, my supposed imagination took over and wanted to play a trick on me and, you know, pop aliens into the room and a light outside the window. You know what I mean? So that's pretty creepy, to be honest with you. Yeah. You know, I mean, I don't know, but I'm venturing a guess that if this really did happen to you, that you, what you were watching before you fell asleep, maybe it attracted something.
Starting point is 00:57:24 You know, like people say that when they're messing around with, you know, watching a lot of like horror films or, you know, they were doing something along the lines of experimenting. with some kind of paranormal idea, then they have an experience. I wonder if people can attract these experiences to themselves by dabbling and just, you know, innocent watching of TV shows and things like that. I don't know, but I've heard people say that. And it's like, is it a coincidence that you were watching those things and then this happens? Or is it something that was more sinister, more planned, and more intentional. I don't know. Exactly. Exactly. You know what I mean? That's a good way of putting it because like, like I said, I've watched many documentaries about, you know, whatever you want to call it, aliens and inductions
Starting point is 00:58:18 and people's stuff. And I passed out to it, like perfectly fine. I'll, you know, like, I'll go watch a scary movie. It doesn't, it doesn't affect me in any way. I can sleep like a baby. Even when you watch it's something like scary, like, the had nightmare. Like it's very, very, like I can probably count the times on my hand that I've had nightmares in my entire life. You know what I mean? It's always good dreams. It's always weird dreams, but it's nothing sinister where, you know, it's something like demonic, for example,
Starting point is 00:58:42 or alienish or anything like that. I was genuinely the only time that I've experienced something that had to do with something sinister like that where, you know, entities popped into your room and tried to drag you off the bed and take you somewhere, which God knows where that would have been, you know what I mean? But when I think about it, I'm like, what is the correlation now?
Starting point is 00:58:59 between the entities and the saints and God and whatever you want to call it. Where does that all come into play? You know what I mean? That's what drives me crazy the most is like how is it all related? You know what I mean? Is there a correlation there? Is it good versus evil? Is that actually true?
Starting point is 00:59:17 You know what I mean? So like I genuinely don't know. I really don't know. It's a question that probably will never be answered, you know? Well, it will be answered. It's just, is it going to be answered on this side of life? That's the question. On the side of life.
Starting point is 00:59:29 That's true. That's true. That's very true. We, you know, people, you know, I just got to tweet today telling me that I, that I have too much Christian philosophy or something like that on my show. I'm like, well, I'm a Christian, so, you know, you get what you put in. And so, you know, and I told the person I said, if you don't like it, just go listen to another show. But. Exactly. That's what I'm saying that is, I believe. that, you know, there is life after death and that, you know, our answers are going to be found.
Starting point is 01:00:06 And so when it comes to this stuff, we, on this side of life, we all have different thoughts and opinions and beliefs. But, you know, one way or another, we're going to find out, even if there is no God, even if there is no God and this whole thing is made up, we'll find out because when we die and nothing happens and we wind up turning into worm food, I guess we got our answer. You know what I mean? So. Exactly. Exactly. I'm not really concerned about trying to prove to anybody one thing or another. We'll all get our answer sooner or later.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Eventually, exactly. And what you experienced, man, I think you might have been under attack, man. I really think you might have been under attack. But, you know, who knows? Who knows? It's true. It's true. You know, like, why that house, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:55 So, like, it's crazy. It's crazy. Who knows? Yeah. It is crazy. but, you know, maybe one of these days you and I will reconnect on this topic and stuff, but I just wanted to get this in the episodes so you could share with people with that, because I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 01:01:11 When you started sharing this with me, I was like, dude, what are we doing here? Like, you should have said this earlier. Yeah, I thought maybe the shadowing candle was a bit more, you know, creepy. But then I realized, I'm like, oh, crap, I should have talked about my sleep paralysis because who knows what sleep paralysis actually is, you know, because they still don't have a proper explanation for it until the day. So, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Well, I'll tell you what, man. I do appreciate you coming on. And we'll finally end the recording here and end this episode. But I do really appreciate you coming on and sharing that experience with us. No words. Thank you very much again for the opportunity, Tony. And if anything ever happens, I'll get back in contact with you if I get any more. So from many family numbers, anything like that.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please go ahead and share the show with your friends. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, email, Snapchat, Pinterest. I don't care how you share the show, but if you enjoyed it, please share the show with your friends. And until next week, friends, stay safe, take care, and remember, the truth will set you free, but first it'll piss you off. Bye. Yeah? All right. Well, you know what? Do you want to help Daddy? Do you want to help Daddy record?
Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah, come here. Come here. You can help me record. Okay? Let's do this. Can you say something for them? Say, say hi. Hi. Hi. Hey. Good job.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Say hi, hi. Hi. Say bye. Say bye. Stop touching the microphone. Say bye. What? Say hi.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Hey. Yeah, you say hi, but you don't want to say bye. That's good. Oh, God. Oh, yeah? Don't touch Daddy's Bigfoot. cast to be careful all right you want to go play go ahead

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