The Confessionals - 150: The Assassin's Son

Episode Date: August 13, 2019

On Episode 150: The Assassin’s Son, we have guest Allen on the show to share a very extraordinary UFO experience he had with his father and grandfather. The craft they witnessed shone a bright light down on their house, and at the same time seemed to suppress all sounds outside the circle of light! He also shares some paranormal experiences. But before everything, Allen first talks about his dad’s unique set of skills...as a hired assassin! The common denominator in everything Allen shares is that each of his stories involve his father, in one way or another.Become a member: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaISubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterEmail: [e-mail]: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastInstagram: @theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Show art: Nate Hallinan (www.natehallinan.com)Audio Trailer: Dalton Boyd (www.soundcloud.com/supernova-city)Outro: Metallica - Enter Sandman (Joel Fletcher & Reece Low Bootleg) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAWW2sW7XpI

This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing up this giant. Well, the giant moves. He's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this.

Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. Spicer got splice him, got spurson when he got about... And I look over and there are two small gray entities. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air. Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing. A monster.

Yep. Welcome to the show. Everybody, you're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or a story you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. That's The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com.

Or go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the contact section, and you can reach me that way as well. Either way it works for me, just get a hold of me. And if you're interested in having more of the. Confessionals every week, go to the confessionalspodcast.com and become a member by hitting the join button. You get access to extra episodes every Thursday. We come out with a new episode for members. Plus, you get access to live shows with live call-ins, forums, lots of great stuff. So if that interests you, go to the website to professionalspodcast.com and become a member today. Now, this week, we have Alan coming on the show, and Alan's going to share some paranormal experiences, a crazy UFO experience,

where he, his dad and his grandfather all saw it. It shot light down on the house, dampened the sound around them. Very, very interesting stuff. And before he even gets to that, he's going to share some stories that his dad shared with him when his father was a hired assassin. So definitely tune in for this week because it's going to be a great show. And before we get to that, though, we're going to play a trailer for this coming Thursday's member episode.

Let's go. Turn around five years old. It all started when we moved in through the around the south. I was laying down and I saw what looks like, you know, angel above me. Didn't have heads. And they just kept telling me that I'm not going to live long. You're going to die soon. I would tell my mom this.

She, you know, she was, you know, she was a typical mother. You know, it might be your imagination. Kept telling her to bother her more that she talked to in church. church, church. And they started having problems with it, too. Eventually, I got to the point where my mom decided to say, you need to cut it out. Just don't talk about it no more.

It's done. So at that point where I just stopped telling her about it, didn't really too much stop, kept going. I just couldn't talk to her about it anymore. All right, today we got Alan on the show. Alan, how you doing, man? Doing good, pretty good, Tony. How you doing, man?

Doing good, brother. doing good. So we were talking a little bit before the show. And you're going to come on and you're going to talk about some of your UFO experiences you had in Oregon. But before you get into that, if you could, and you don't have to share tons of details if you don't want to, but you have a dad who has a unique story to his life. And I think it would be just interesting to hear whatever you can share about his life and how he kind of got involved. involved in this. So if you could, I don't want to give too many details away. I'll let you just take it away from here and let the audience, let you share with the audience, you know, what you

would like to share with them about the unique special skills that your dad has. All right, absolutely. Well, yeah, so I guess I'll just take you back to when my father was in the military. He started out in the Army. He wanted to go to Vietnam, but my grandmother wouldn't let him, but when he turned to age, he got drafted. And so the war was over. He's like, yeah, well, I'm in the military now. Went over to Germany, stationed there. And he got into black marketing.

There's not a lot to do there, but, you know, sit around post. And he would sell Levi jeans and Jack Daniels and just wherever he could buy off post in Germany over there. And they would go for a lot more. And well, he ended up getting picked up by the Polozy for black marketing. And they frowned pretty heavily on that over there. and yeah he was sitting in a in a German prison or a gulag and he was sitting there for a while

and the CIA actually pulled up on him and said hey you can sit in here and rot forever or you can work for us he said well no brainer I'm going to work for you you know so I started doing that and one of those first missions that they had them do was actually an assassination and he was, you know, getting a little head of myself, but he was basically contracted as a government assassin.

And they dropped him over in Vietnam at first to take out a general. And he was supposed to go in between cars on a convoy. So what my father was supposed to do was to do a halo or a high altitude low opening drop, from the plane. So he dropped all his gear bag and he jumped out

and he balled up into a ball and looked like a bag of garbage on radar falling down. And then he said he popped his shoot but he popped it way too late he was about 500 feet off deck

or off the ground when he pulled and he said when he hit the ground he was just bleeding from every spot in his head and you know nose, eyes, ears, mouth but he still got up

He had to go about two and a half miles to his target destination and post up and wait for this Vietnamese general to switch vehicles. And he waited there about a day. And when that happened, he actually had a specialized, well, I wouldn't say specialized, but it was an anti-material rifle is what we'd call or a tank rifle. and he said he had a silence around that thing that looked like a coffee can and he was just waiting and waiting guy came out

and he's watching the consulate flag on the vehicle moving for wind speed and he shot and he hit the guy but he thought he missed it first but with the caliber of that round I mean you could come pretty close to somebody and they'll still hurt them pretty bad from the

from the velocity and just the round passing by so close it's almost like a concussion it'll damage you but he you know he completed his mission and he got out of there but his side mission

since he was in Vietnam was to relieve or liberate some POWs and this actually confirms his story to me because he was able to liberate two people

people and get them out of there. Now we're going to zoom forward real quick. You know, we're still with my father. We're going to zoom forward to, you know, how I know this is a true story. He and I, we were in a grocery outlet, which is basically a discount grocery store. And this guy standing next to me, he's wearing a Vietnam veteran hat, all his little medals on it. And he just keeps looking over at my father and looking over at him and looking over at him and looking over at him. And I'm like, what is this guy looking at?

Finally, you know, I get the last stuff on the belt because he's rung up and this guy comes over and he goes, sir, is your name such and such? And my father wasn't using his real name at the time, you know, for anonymity's sake and, you know, not to be traced by anybody, but my father just goes, who wants to know? You know, sir, you pulled me out of one of those Vietnam

PureW camps back in the day. And I just want to say thank you. and my jaw just about hit the floor I was like oh my god my father really did that like he told me about it but you know it was kind of one of those yeah yeah right you know

but this guy I never seen him before never met him just random happenance comes up to my father and he thanks him for getting him out of that POW camp I was like wow so then

listening backwards again back to my father he just pulled those two POWs out of the POW POW camps They ended up sending him down to South America during the drug wars with the Contras and Coast Roachers. And my father was still a government contract at the Sassan at that point. Basically what his job was to the other family.

I believe it was the Contra as we were trying to help out. Yeah, I believe so. I can't remember. I'd have to do a little history searching. But in any case, he was working against. the other side because we were laundering a whole bunch of money through the CIA and, you know, Ollie North and all that. Like, that's another story. But my father actually, his whole job was to strike fear, basically, into the other side. And my father was really good at it. I mean,

I wouldn't say really good. Like, he was kind of a bad guy, but he had to do what he had to do for his country. He was, his contractor. That's what his job was. And as my father said, at the time, he really didn't have the emotion about it. He was just doing a job. And, I mean, he wiped out a lot of those people, and it sent a clear message, you know. If you're going to keep doing what you're doing,

we're going to keep doing what we're doing. And he wasn't playing nice at all. And he basically took out entire families. You know, it wasn't just one specific. It was the entire family. And it's just, you know, the Princess Bride theory is they didn't, the CIA didn't want people coming back going, my name is Enigo Montoya, you kill my father, prepared to die. So there's nobody, there's nobody left to come back and seek retribution at that point. But it sent a clear message, you know, don't mess with us because we're serious and we're serious about our money. So that's what my father did. And so my childhood upbringing was quite interesting. interesting. Like, I'd always ask, I'm like, what did you do in the military? What was this? What was that? And I was like, well, you really want to know? He wouldn't tell me those things, but I remember my brother and I were like, yeah, we want to do, we want to know what you did and, like, training and stuff. And so, it sounds kind of weird, but we actually, you know, let him, like, tie us up and then he'd teach us how to escape from being tied up and so on and so forth. And I remember one instance, he tied me and my brother up and he's like okay first one out gets full breakfast and he went into the kitchen and

started making pancakes and eggs and bacon that's all you could smell man i was like oh it's a motivating factor to get out of here and of course i was the first one out and i got a full plate of breakfast but it's not to say that my brother never got like fed or anything like that it was just you know you got the extra reward of another piece of bacon or whatever you know but like that's just i never really had a traditional, I would say, upbringing. My father, he's, as we would describe him, he's like scary santa claus. He's just six foot four, you know, big, big belly, but he's just eyes of stone, like very serious.

Like, you know, when he says, hey, you need to do this, you do it. And that's just how I was raised. And, you know, that was quite an interesting childhood upbringing, learning all the different things that he went through. and yeah, that's about that. Yeah, I find a very interesting man that you basically had a dad that they make movies about. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I didn't learn that until I was about 25, but as I was growing up, he was definitely a mystery. Right, and when you're describing him and stuff like that, I mean, I'm thinking the movie of the expendables, you know, where it's these guys who the government contracts and they do the things that, you know, nobody else really can do or wants to do or they don't want their name on. And so they just kind of have these guys who are outside the rules. And it's kind of like what your dad kind of did.

And I just, I find that stuff very fascinating. And I'm sure your dad, if he ever wanted to talk to me, I would love to hear his stories because I'm sure he's got stories for days. Oh, he would chat you up for hours, Tony. hours. He's one of those guys that stops random people and he's like, hey,

you want to learn something about me? And then four hours later they're gnawing on their shoulder trying to get away from them. Like, you know, he's got stories for days,

though. Like, some of them, I just can't, I can't, like, believe they're so, they're just so crazy, but I know that they've happened to them

because they've all been confirmed, like either outside sources like that gentleman stepping up at the store and be like, thank you for pulling me out of that POW camp or you know instances like that there's just like wow he he didn't have to do anything he just told me the story and it was self-confirmed down the road yeah and you said that earlier when we were talking before the show you said that

i guess the files and stuff were declassified and like some of these stories are showing up now on you know big network television and stuff and the names have been changed but like his stories are out there now for the public to consume pretty much oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've had friends that they listened to him for a while and they ended up using his surname to look him up and what he went under. And they're like, wow, yeah, he really did. Like, there he is. There's that guy. And they just couldn't believe it either. They're like, wow, this really does happen. And that's just one of the things that, you know, we were talking about earlier is having an open mind. And, you know, things happen and they may sound a little outlandish, but where there's a will, there's a way. Yeah, I absolutely agree with you, man. And you were saying that when you were a kid, you know, like he would do things like tie you guys up to teach you how to escape certain situations. And you also told me that, you know, you guys would go hide, hide and seek in the woods.

And like, he was better at hiding than Bigfoot. Oh, man. So I remember this one instance, we were at, he's like, you know, you go out, I'll track you by foot, like track your foot in the dirt. And then I'm just going to sneak up on you. I was like, yeah, okay, old man, whatever. And I saw I'm getting ready. He's putting on this bright yellow jacket, bright yellow. Like this guy, like I said, he's 6'4, bright yellow jacket.

Hard to miss. You know, so I'm like, yeah, okay, I'm going to spy you from a mile away, okay? So I get out there, I start roaming around, and then bam, next thing I know about 45 minutes later, he's right behind me. Like, how did you get there? Like, I'm actively walking through the woods. Like, I'm not stopping. I'm, like, even trying to walk in circles to, like, confuse my step, you know,

brush some of them out, like in the Dalmatians or whatever. You know, get rid of my footsteps with a branch. You know, whatever I got to do to try to confuse this guy, stepping on grass. You know, whatever. Bam, 40 minutes later, I'm like, how did this school bus just pull up behind me? without me noticing. Like, how did this happen? Where did you come from?

And he just, he's got to laugh. Like, I've lost him in a store. I'm like, where's my father? Where's my father? Suddenly, suddenly I hear him laughing with some store employee just, oh, ha, ha, huh, huh. Well, there's my dad. Start walking in that direction.

Like, how did I not notice this guy? But when he wanted to be quiet and when he wanted to get around, he got around quickly and quietly. and unnoticed. That was his specialty. So when you guys were older, and I think you said you were at 25 when he kind of started disclosing some things to you about what he actually did, there's different people in the world and everybody reacts to things differently.

How did that make you feel knowing that your dad was what he was and did some of the things that, you know, normal people wouldn't do? and they would hope that they wouldn't be in a situation to have to do that. But yet your dad did it because he was contracted by our government to do certain things that are immoral or inethical, however you want to look at it, you know, but it was his job and he did his job. And so, I mean, for me, trying to put myself in your shoes, if my dad told me he did those things, I would want to believe that it wouldn't affect me as far as how I view my dad, because I know who my dad is for real outside of what he's been hired to do, and I love my dad.

Right. But, I mean, being in your shoes, I mean, for real life, how did that affect you or did it affect you at all? Well, I stopped arguing with him a lot because I do it get back about it. But, no, but for real, like, he was still my father, you know. He was always just kind of this big guy that, like, I've seen him intimidate other people when they were totally in the wrong. You know, like they got a little, what's the word?

They got a little testy or fresh, what do you want to say? Like violent with my brother or I. And they're a full-grown adult. And then my dad steps out and he takes up the entire doorway. And they're like, you know what? Never mind.

It's not worth it. Like, this guy is a big guy. I ain't going to mess with them. But I'm saying that, like, I've never, ever seen my, my father cry, not one time in his life. Like, he was having a panic attack, which is almost like a seizure when he was having it. It's because 25% of his heart was dying. And so he was having, like, panic attacks that bled into like a seizure. And he said it was the most painful thing

that he ever experienced in his life. And he never cried, none of that. But when he told me about what he did, like that was the first time I ever seen him cry ever. And it was that, watching him cry, he did. Watching him cry was like, that's what took my breath away. I was like, wow, you know,

like I've always looked up to you like you're this immovable stone that can be hurt or hindered because you're my father. That's how my father is, you know, just about anybody's father. It's like,

this is the guy that's going to protect me and he has for many years. But when he started crying and telling me about what he had to do for the government because he was so ashamed, I was like, you know, in that moment,

I was like, I'm not judging you. You had to do what you had to do. And I can only imagine what happened to you if you just said, no. I know what I know now, but I'm not going to do it. So now you're just kind of a loose end. You know, so I was like, you know, you had to do what you had to do. I mean, you were told by some very lucrative people, aka CIA, you know, either you do this or you sit in the jail forever. or I can only imagine it would escalate again.

Like either you do this or we'll make sure you never see the light of day again. Or, you know, at that point I felt like he was more self-preservating. And so I was just, I was just supportive. But at the same time, I was awestruck and my father crying. But at the same time, simultaneously, it was like, am I in a movie? Like, am I listening to something that's fabricated? But then once it got clarified by outside sources, that I never met before.

I was just, I was dumbfounded. Like, wow, I can't believe, like, this is real. Like, and I guess it's kind of like a disbelief or, you know, I guess I wasn't even sure how I should feel about it. I mean, he's still my father, and it's not going to change. But, yeah, I mean, like I said, I was just more, okay, yeah, you want me to do that? Absolutely, no problem. I'll do that.

No, don't worry. I'm not going to argue with you at all. I know he can back it up. You're a big guy, and I'm not going to tell you no. But, you know, nowadays, big teddy bear, big teddy bear. He's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. You'll strike up a fun conversation with you. You would never even know.

I mean, completely different person than what he said he used to be. And he said that was because he had children. You know, at the time when he was doing all those things, I wasn't even a thought. Never even met my mom. But now that he has kids, me and my brother, or my brother and I, he used proper English here. But he said it completely changes his opinion on everything. He understood why, you know, what he was doing was really, really bad.

And he just had to do what he had to do. Right. You know, I was watching a TED talk earlier today, and it was a guy talking about how the environment that's in our military and the training that our soldiers go through, it essentially trains you how to not to cry. And this was like the whole emphasis on his talk. And I find it very interesting. And, you know, you kind of back that up a little bit where you never saw your dad cry. And, you know, our military and the way we train our soldiers, and I'm sure this is pretty much worldwide, it trains you to be a tough guy, to know that you know that you can take on.

the challenge. And I have a guy that I work with, and he wasn't in the military. He's actually from Africa, but he is like, I think it's like a third or fourth degree black belt, to the point where when he came to this country, he had to register his hands as a weapon. So he can't be in a fight because if he's in a fight, it's like using a gun and he'll be charged like that. And he's one of the most laid back guys, fun loving guys you would ever meet. And him and I have a lot of deeper conversations sometimes after work. And basically the motivation behind it for him is I don't need to prove anything. Like if somebody's getting rowdy and stuff or yelling at me or being nasty to me, like, I don't need to step into somebody because I know if it,

if it went there, I know I would be able to take this person. And it's just, I'm not willing to cross that line. So like he's just so laid back and relaxed because he doesn't have a worry on those kind of, on that kind of level in the world because he knows most people he comes across, he could kill with his pinky. And so it kind of creates this different mentality in your mind when you don't, when you know you're the alpha, you don't need to prove that you're the alpha because you are. And it's just, it's really interesting. And I actually am going to have that guy on my show because his life in Africa is something

the audience would absolutely love hearing because he talks about being raised in Africa and what it was like, there was a civil war going on and how he had to run multiple times throughout his life from the war. He didn't finish school until he was like 25, 26 years old. And on top of that, there's a lot of weird stuff that happens in Africa that he was telling me, like snakes and stuff that you wouldn't believe existed. And he, like, you want to talk about cryptids? These are straight up cryptids in real life. He's like, this actually happened. Like, people wouldn't believe it here in America, but he's like, this stuff actually happens in Africa. It's wild. And so I'm going to have him on the show one these days. I'm going to have to come over to my house and hang out and talk and stuff. But anyways,

I'll tell you what, Alan, I really appreciate you sharing that with me and the audience and stuff because I find that kind of stuff very interesting and fascinating. And I know it's not paranormal or cryptic related, but it's definitely an interesting story. And it's, that's what we're all about here. We're about interesting stories and people's lives and how they unfold. And, uh, you want to talk. to us about these UFO experiences you've had in Oregon. And to a little disclaimer for everybody, I lost the email and everything of all the details that we're going to be covering. So I told you beforehand, we're just going to roll with it. And I remember reading it and everything and we talked about it. But I just want you to kind of just take it away for us and talk to us about these

experiences you had in Oregon with these UFOs. Okay. Well, so I'm 31 now, but let's go back to my high school days when I was around 16, 17. I can't exactly remember the year, but it was in the middle of summer. And anybody who's ever lived here in Oregon, and if I'm more specific about where I'm not in Oregon, I'm in central Oregon, this is kind of like a hotbed, I feel like, because you can come out here and you can see things that you're just like, okay, what is that? What is going on? So let's jump back. Middle of summer, June, right around there, June, July.

I'm about 16, 17. It's about 10, 10, 30, almost 11 at night. It's nighttime. It's time to go to sleep. I'm going to go lay down. and how I used to live in high school was I had a bed I had all those things but I don't care what time of the season it is I sleep with a fan like I need that white noise or I'm just I'm here in every little floorboard everything but I used to sleep on the floor right in front of that fan my head inches from that fan just because that's where I love to sleep and that was my favorite spot I mean you know it is what it is But so I'm laying on my floor. It's about 10, 30, 11 o'clock at night.

Fans blowing on my head. And right before you pass out, it's almost like the world goes quiet and blanks out because you're about to just cross over and go to sleep. And that's what I thought was happening. But then I like kind of jolted. I was like, huh, I'm awake. All right.

Well, that was weird. Everything went quiet. And I was like, well, everything's still quiet. What's going on? It was about that time I realized I couldn't hear my fan blowing on my head. Couldn't hear the mechanics of the fan working. Couldn't hear any of that. I started to panic a little bit.

I was like, am I going deaf? So I started like snapping my fingers next to my ear. I'm like, yeah, I can still hear that. Okay, what's going on? Why is my fan not producing any noise? I can feel the wind. I can't hear it moving past my ear. And it was about that time I noticed out of my head.

bedroom window, that it is bright as daylight. And I was like, did I just pass out and wake up real fast? And in daytime, what's going on here? I check my clock. Sure, sure enough, it's to Lado clock, it's 11 o'clock. Like, it should be dark right now. Why is it bright the day? I saw somebody's flashing a flashlight in my window. And my father, we were at my grandparents' house. Let me a little bit of context here. We're out by a place called three rivers. And the reason it's called that is because where we lived is in between these two rivers. And they are separated by about a mile in some areas to two miles. And we are in one of those mile to two miles where we're in between the two rivers. So sometimes it would create its own little

ecosystem, but fog only in those areas, in between the rivers. And as soon as you drive out, It's like nothing, just a clear day. So in any case, my father's living there with me because he was actually caregiving for his parents because they couldn't take care of themselves. And I was living there because I was going to school. In any case, his bedroom's right next to mine. I hear his floorboard creak

because it's one of those older trailer homes, double wide. We were pimping it. The floorboard creaked. And I was like, okay, dad's moving around, what's going on? So I got up, I opened my bedroom door, and his bedroom door is to the left of mine and the bathroom's to the right. He's got his door open, but he's got his revolver in his hand. I'm like, oh, okay, it's one of those kind of parties. So I turned back around, grab my rifle, and I come back out, and I meet him in the living room.

And I just had a 22, but, you know, it made me feel better. So I stood out there, and we're both noticing that every single window on the house is lit up like daytime. And we're looking out, and it's lit up everywhere. The whole property is lit up like it is daytime. Like not blue light, but yellow sunlight-type light. And my grandfather, bless his heart, he was a Korean war vet. And he was born in the 30s.

And he comes out of his bedroom holding his Springfield 30-06. But he's only wearing his, you know, he's, He's in his witty tides and his little undershirt. And he's like, what's going on, gentlemen? And my father and I, we just kind of shrug at each other and shrug at him. Like, we have no idea what's going on. Like, okay, all three of us armed now, go out to the back porch through this sliding glass door. And the first thing that struck me was this deck when you stepped on it, it would go creak, pop, pop, peak, creek.

Everywhere you stepped, it was an old deck. Could not hear one noise off of this deck. I could feel it popping under my feet, but I couldn't hear the noise. I could hear us walking, the shuffling, but I couldn't hear the deck. And then I noticed that the wind was blowing pretty decently through the trees. And I could not hear the trees wrestling or the wind moving through any of it. And then I noticed there's this 500-foot perimeter of light all the way around our property. And we lived on an acre.

And right in the middle was us. And then there's this 500-foot diameter light, a big circle around us. And we're like, what? And so we look up. We see this, the best way I could describe it is almost like a floodlight. But it was like looking into the sun. You can't see around it. You don't know what's behind it.

You just know that that light is there and is casting down upon you. And we all just stood there with what I imagine with our mouths agape, just staring at this thing. And then about that time, the light just started to shift. shift and move kind of slowly and ominously towards our neighbors towards the east. I'm sorry, the west. Yeah, the west. The rim of the light started to approach us. I was like, this is so weird, guys.

Thinking of this all in my head, as soon as that light crossed over us and we were on the other side of this big 500 foot perimeter light, you couldn't even tell that the light was being shined. It was like stepping outside of a portal and then not even be able to see that portal because they've got some kind of like cloaking field on it or something. It's just once I was outside of that light, it was like that light

never existed. But I knew subconsciously it was still there moving over the neighbor's house. But the strangest part of it I mean the whole thing is strange, but another strange part to it was as soon as you're outside of this light, noise

started to flood back in. And when I I say flood back in, it was like it started off in the distance and came rushing towards you like water. Suddenly I could hear the wind blowing through the trees again. I could hear the deck underneath my feet. I could hear my heavy panting breath again. What is going on? And I started to look around in disbelief of my father and my grandfather. I was like, what? Am I, did you guys see that? We all just saw this thing. And my grandfather, I'll never forget till the day I die what he said. He just kind of looked at me with this plain face,

shrugged and went aliens. He went straight back to bed. I couldn't believe it. It was just like, how many things have you seen in your life for you to just shrugged and be like, eh? Like, did you not experience what I just experienced? Was I, like, hallucinating? What happened?

I mean, did you not notice the noise flooded back in? Like, we were in the middle of a lake and then water started rushing us on all sides. Like noise. Just, noise. The noise is supposed to be there. The wind, the trees, all of it. Like, am I going insane? And he just waddled back inside. And he's like, man, whatever. My father and I just kind of looked at each other and went, all right, I'm going to bed. Because what are you saying in that moment? Let's go find it. Let's chase it down. I mean, maybe. But that was not our first thought.

I first thought was kind of like, I helped us like, ah, we just saw what we saw. And somebody to go back inside and not talk about it because everybody's going to give me that long stare. But that was probably one of the more interesting UFO experiences that I had in my life. I mean, when I say that place is a hotbed, it was not only just UFO, but I had some paranormal experiences as well. I mean, that place being located where it was in between those rivers, they say that water kind of adds energy to paranormal or, you know, anything like that. So I feel like it was just kind of a natural gravitational point for a lot of these things.

So do you think, I mean, whatever it was that was casting a light down had some kind of like noise suppression with it? Is that what you're thinking? I mean, how do you explain that to yourself? I couldn't. I just, I just absorbed. Like, see, now my father, like I said, he was CIA. And so he kind of like trained me to like be observant, know what's around you, know who's around you, know what's around you, you know what your next step is going to be, know what you're going to think, say, do all that. And when that happened, I was just trying to input information as fast as I could, like just the sketchbook in my brain just going as fast as it can, sharpening that pencil over and over. Like what am I saying? How do I put this down? Like noise suppression, possibly.

I wouldn't say most definitely. Maybe it was just, I always thought maybe like some kind of gravitational disturbance where it just emitted something that just, when you're in that kind of field where they're floating above, like maybe things just get distorted. Maybe you're even on a different type of plane of existence for a moment where certain things are just kind of outside that time and you're just in stasis, so to speak. or floating, like some kind of noise suppression or dampener was going on at that point, because I could still hear my finger snapping. Like, that was my test. Like, am I going deaf right now? I was snapping my fingers next to my head.

I was like, well, yeah, I can hear that. I'm not going deaf, but something is going on with all the audio around me. Like, something is off. It definitely affected machinery. It affected environment. It affected inanimate objects like the deck. And so, I mean, it was just, it was ethereal. I want to say ethereal or like magical in a sense.

Like, it just didn't make sense. My brain could not compute. Yeah, I can understand that totally, man. I mean, right, it's kind of trippy. It's, I mean, imagine if whatever that was was kind of placing you in some kind of like other realm, you know, like opening up some kind of other dimension that you guys were experiencing while you were within that light. It's just really trippy to think about. And, you know, we talk about some crazy things in the show and, you know, no possibility is off limits in my mind because I firmly believe that this world is far, far crazier than we can ever imagine. And, you know, as time goes on, you know, you learn that through science more is possible than we ever could have imagined. In 1950, the things that we know are. real and true today was science fiction. And, you know, the whole idea of quantum physics is something

that is very new to us. We're still trying to learn and understand it. But it's quantum physics is, if you were just to look at it, you'd say, yeah, that's paranormal. You know, because it's, it's science is is proving more and more as time goes on that there are a lot more things possible than we could have imagined. And so when it comes to this stuff, it's just, I don't know, but it's definitely like insane, you know? Yeah, absolutely. I do know. I lived it for a few seconds.

It was beyond what my brain could compute in that moment. It was absolutely, well, I wouldn't say speechless because I'm talking about it, but like, it just rendered me speechless at the moment. Like, I had no idea what happened or how it happened. I had so many questions. That's how it always is. is you get left with more questions than are answered at that moment. You're like, don't go away.

I want to know how you did this. I want to know what happened. And then you started looking at peers around you. Like, come on, it was my father. It's like, what happened? Well, why did you not hear? But how did that happen? Why did that happen?

And he couldn't answer either. And so I was like, well, if this guy doesn't know, then this is really something strange. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. And you were, what, 16, you said then? 1617, right in that area. My birthday was actually June. Oh, it's always June.

It's always June. In any case, I was right on the cusp of 16, 17, 17 in that area. Okay. And so you said that there was other things that happened around that property, like paranormal experiences. Did you ever see any other UFOs going from that point forward? Yes. My father and I, it seemed to be, you know, he loved standing on the driveway.

in the middle of the night and just staring off into the distance. And we would just talk about, you know, whatever. Like, let's go fishing. Let's go do this. Or, you know, I saw this back in the day. And then, you know, yeah, I mean, we did two lights in the sky. Like, there was one instance where we both witnessed a light moving. It was brighter than it should be for the altitude that it was at.

It was definitely not a commercial plane. It wasn't blinking. it was like a bright light, abnormal. Like a star that was too close and it was moving slower than it should be for a meteor. But it was still moving fairly quickly.

I've seen the space station go by, you know, what that looks like, or other satellites in our atmosphere go by and what that looks like. This was almost like watching a light bulb that was about 500 feet away from your face, But this thing in reality, it was probably about three miles up in the air, about 27 miles away from us. I mean, it was up there pretty far, and it was pretty far away.

But the light that it was emitting was way too bright to be anything that I know of. And it started making moves that were unlike anything that I've ever seen, a conventional craft of ours ever make. And then it stopped. And then like most UFOs that I ever hear of, it just goes and disappears into the sky. It's gone, gone.

My father and I looked at each other at first time. We're like, what the heck? And we waited there because like anybody who sees something like that, you think maybe you'll come back. Maybe you'll see it again. So we stand there, and we stand there, and we stand there. And then before you know it, after about five minutes,

we see conventional aircraft, but they're military. And how I know they're military is because there's more than one of them and they're flying in formation. Now, some are coming from the east, and my father said that they're more than likely coming from Colorado, NORAD, and there were some coming from the north, Washington, one of those air bases up there. And in the exact area where that thing stopped and disappeared at,

up in the air, or up in the space, they were flying in a Chevron formation, both groups, at least four planes, in a grid formation, passing back and forth over that area, passing back and forth, like, literally like a grid, like they're scanning for something,

they're looking for something. They're looking for what we just saw. And then they do that for about two, three minutes, and then they just go back in their respective directions. And my father, He looked over me and he's like, you know, we just saw UFO. I'm like, oh, interesting. I could have guessed from what we just saw, but, you know, that's something I'm not used to seeing all the time.

I mean, yes, that area, it still is a very hotbed, like, activity area. I swear that we could just go camp out there over next summer. and we would almost guarantee maybe not happen when you want it to happen. But if you're outside at the right time looking up at the sky, you are probably going to see something that's strange. Yeah, I mean, around here where I live in the Philly area, it's very populated. And so there's a lot of light pollution and things like that. But even in my area, there's been a very high uptick of UFO sightings over the last year, year and a half, two years. and I mean, I've seen it.

I've mentioned it on the show a couple of times. I've seen a particular shape in the sky two or three times. And I think it was three times. And around the same location, every time I was in my tractor trailer, driving down the turnpike at night, and I see this V-shaped craft. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know how to explain it. I mean, I've had some people say, well, maybe it was a drone.

This thing was very big. I mean, it was, it was big. Like, I saw it from miles away. And as I got up to it. That ain't no drone I've ever seen. That's a large drone. Yeah, I mean, I saw the light from miles away. And then as I caught up to it and was passing it, it was just hovering in the sky.

When I looked up at it, it was in the shape of a V, like a, like a checkmark. And one of the sides was shorter than the other. It wasn't equal in length. It was very distinct. And, you know, so there's a lot of stuff going on in disguise. And I imagine, you know, your area and stuff, you're probably seeing a lot of stuff, man. You said that you, you said that you had some paranormal experiences in that area, too. What did you mean by that?

Well, okay. So all the good stuff seems to happen when my father's around. But this has less to do with my father. He was just more of an information. piece into it. I had a ex-fiancee at the time. And this is fast forwarding from my teenage years. I'm about 25. This is when he just basically told me this is my life and all that. But I'm living back there because he's still taking care of his parents, my grandparents. And I actually moved back to over there to take care of him and my grandparents because he fell into some medical

condition where he couldn't do his job anymore. So that's how we got there. Well, I brought my fiance at the time, at the time. I have a new wife. I want to stipulate. But at the time I had brought my fiance over with. And she had like kind of a rough life. And by rough, I mean, she bumped into people that I would definitely not associate with in the ways of what they practiced religiously. Let's just go ahead and say it. They were Satanists. And she bumped into them and bumped with them without realizing that these people are sainments. And I'm almost positive. These people put like something on her.

You know, whatever it may be, it's something that she kind of like just has with her now. So back to, you know, my house there and my grandparents and I'm with her. She has a five-year-old daughter. And my ex-fiancee at the time is hanging up a tapestry. Now this tapestry, it creeped me out. Like, he was supposed to be innocent in looks, but just something about this tapestry, it had a sun with a face in the middle of it. And the face on the sun had closed eyes and it had a nose and a mouth that was in a very slight smirk.

But the eyes were closed ever so slightly. You couldn't see any eyeball or anything. It was just eyelids. But every time I looked at that thing, I was like, this thing is going to be. to open its eyes at me and start like yelling at me. It's just so creepy. And it had some like artwork around the edges, you know, I was like, okay, this is a weird tapestry. Well, she started to hang it up in our bedroom and her five-year-old said, mom, don't put that up. It scares me. It growled at me. And I'm like, what? This kid's saying things that she doesn't want this tapestry to be hung up.

And, of course, my fiancee at the time was like, okay, well, I'll take it down. And so, she laid it on the bed and my father comes in, he's like, oh, how are you doing? Where'd you get that? That's interesting. You know what that is? My fiance at the time, it's like, yeah, this is a tapestry that my sister got me. You know, I've kept it with me. It's, you know, when I'm happy, I keep it next to me and when I'm sad, I hold on to it because it reminds me of my sister. My sister got it for me. It's like, oh, so you poured a lot of emotion into this thing, too, huh? And she's like, well, yeah, my sister got it for me. It's special to me. Like, oh, well, did you know it depicts the satanic holidays around the edges? She's like, what?

I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute. This is too strange. Like, when I first met up with her, I knew that she had a rough life and she had like run-ins with some friends who later down the road that she shacked with ended up telling her, yeah, we believe in Satan and we're Satanists and this is what we do, you know, deal with it. Now you have a tapestry that depicts all the different satanic seasons. of worship? What the, what the heck? Like, let's get rid of this thing. She's like, yeah, absolutely, let's get rid of it. And I'm like, okay, okay, let's do this. And my grandparents, they're

very devout Christians. And so my belief at the time was, all right, we got to bless this thing, and we got to get rid of it. We got to get rid of this tapestry. However we're going to do it, you know what, we're going to burn it. But first, I got to bless this thing. So I'm like, I need you just kind of step back. Let me take this thing. She was very willing to let me take it. Like, okay. Took it.

Went and grabbed my grandma's Bible in the middle of the night. If I didn't want my grandparents to be like, what are you doing? What's that? What's going on? Why did you bring this to my house? I'm like, I was just trying to rectify this situation and get rid of it before it turns into something more than it needs to be with my family. So take it out in the garage.

Take this tapestry out there, set it down. Go back inside, grab a glass of water. and feverishly and probably an ill attempt to make some holy water right there. It's like, okay, this is what we're going to do. We're going to bless the tapestry, and we're going to burn it. Okay. So I went, grabbed that glass of water,

and as I'm like trying to bless it with my grandma's Bible and, you know, pray over it, I started getting this distinct feeling like there were people around me. maybe not people, but there I was surrounded. So checking my shoulders. Like, okay, what's going on? All right, let's just get this done. So back outside onto this creak, creakity poppity deck that we have that goes next to this garage. My grandma was in a wheelchair, so we had a ramp and went down next to the side of the garage side door.

So I started going towards this door, and all of a sudden behind me, I hear some, I swear, somebody running up behind me, a full speed, like a loping sprint. I looked around real fast, and there was nobody there. I could feel them under my feet running towards me. I was like, what is that? Okay, there's nobody there. A little creepy. Maybe I'm, maybe I'm flipping out.

All right. Keep heading towards the door to where the tapestry is. I get to the door, I face the door, and up this ramp that's now to my back, I hear somebody almost the best I could describe, speedwalking. Speedwalking really fast up this ramp. I'm like, spin around. Nobody there. I'm like, okay.

Something does not want me to do what I'm about to do. I need to just get in here and get this done. So I head into the garage. And at this point, I feel like a million eyes are on me. A million and a half eyes. More eyes than I wanted on me, and they were not happy. So I started taking this makeshift holy water, sprinkling it at it, saying, you know, in the name of Jesus, and I started going in all that. And I got the distinct impression that I had better start sprinkling that water around me in a circle of, like, protection, because these things are trying to get at me.

Whatever they are, just this distinct fight or flight feeling, like either run or fight. And I was like, I'm not going anywhere because I'm trapped in this garage. now. Like, I need to stand my ground. So I started throwing this makeshift holy water and then halfway through that. I'm like, this is not working. This is not working. I need to, I need to protect myself and get out of here. And that's what I ended up happening is I, I just got out of there. I was like, wow, well, I guess it won. Like, it got me out of there. It got me away from the tapestry. That's not what I wanted. I shouldn't let it win, but I just, you know, lost faith in my capabilities in that moment. And I just, I got out of there.

because I felt like I was in danger. Like, the most surrounded I have ever felt by nothing. And it was a trip. So the next day rolls around. I'm like, you know what? We're burning it regardless. So I just throw this tapestry into a wheelbarrel, and I cover it in about three inches of kerosene.

And I bring my ex-fiance out, and I'm like, hey, hand her the matchbook. To throw that thing on it lit. We're going to watch this burn together. She's like, okay, she lights it, and she throws that matchbook on top of that tapestry that was soaking wet with kerosene, and it did not light up. It did not catch on fire. This thing is standing in two inches of kerosene, three inches maybe. It is completely soaked through and through. And this matchbook, completely lit on fire, is just smoldering on top of it, not burning it at all.

I was flabbergasted. Did I just pour water on this thing? No, this is definitely kerosene. Why is fire not lighting it on fire? That's when it hit me. I was like, she put so much energy into this thing. She probably can't. I don't know why I got that feeling, but she probably couldn't.

So I lit up a matchbook, and as soon as I hit that thing with that lit matchbook, it just caught on fire, and it burned, and we stirred the ashes. And stupidly, I buried that tapestry on the corner of our property, which I really shouldn't have done. But it was too late. It was disintegrated and worked its way into the dirt. And there's no way I'm sifting through dirt for ash. But that tapestry, I feel like it kind of tore a portal open per se. because after that, we had problems with flash moments of anger,

and it started to affect other people in my house where they're just like, I don't know why I'm so mad all of a sudden, but I'm mad, I'm furious. And my bedroom door had a gap on the bottom, about two to three inches. and you could see underneath it, you know, a little bit, you could definitely tell if there was somebody walking by because their shadow would go across the door and it would block out the hall light.

Well, more than one, more than a dozen, I don't have to say, maybe even a hundred times. My ex-fiance and I would be laying in bed and we'd be watching that door because we'd hear something out there, we're like, oh, somebody's wandering around. You'd see the shadow move across the door and me thinking that it's the five-year-old getting up trying to sneak some string cheese from the kitchen or something,

I jump up and I run over there, I rip that door open as fast as I can and there's nobody standing there. I'm like, uh, okay, so I peek in my head real quick into my old bedroom, and that's where the kid sleeps, and she's fast asleep. She is out like a light. I mean, blanket strewn, her hair's a mess, she is out. I'm like, okay, this is definitely not the kid walking by. What was that? more than a few times we've seen a shadow move across the bedroom door, outside the bedroom

door, but you could see the light being blocked by it. That house just, it reeked, it reeked of like, I want to say evil, even though my grandparents were totally devout Christians, and we had, you know, all the, we had a very happy household, I would say. But once that happened, it just it put a dark shadow over that place and I just tried to to deal with it and not give it power not give it power at all so what's the end what's the end game here I mean did did the house eventually feel more peaceful or the last time you were there and still feel evil well we ended up like my my ex fiance and I we went to a priest well I like one of of our local churches and talk to the pastor there and we're like, you know, this is what's going

on. He's like, well, you need to, you know, tell it in the name of Jesus, the blood of Christ, you know, it needs to go. It needs to listen to you and, you know, in the name of God and the name of Jesus. And you need to just not give a power and bless that house. And so we actually had that priest come in. He's like, oh, yeah, it does feel a little uncomfortable in here. Like he was visibly like he's a very cool level-headed guy but once you got in there he like you could tell he was just like okay i need i need to have my defenses up right now and his whole demeanor kind of like changed a little bit where he's like happy and fun loving but you can tell he was like looking around corners a little extra at that point but he started like you know praying over the house

praying over everybody in the house and um yeah everybody like we all my grandparents my father my ex-the-aunce and I, like, I had told everybody what was going on. I was like, listen, if the house feels a little strange, this is why. And like, this totally makes sense because we haven't felt right either. And so once we have that pastor come in, he helped to like bless the house and get rid of it. And I want to say it got rid of it, but it just really dampened it down. I haven't been back there in a bit because my grandparents, they actually don't live there anymore. So that house belongs to the bank now.

I feel sorry for whatever moves into that place. But yeah, as far as I'm concerned, when we left, that house was better. It was definitely better. But sometimes I feel like I have something that follows me because of it, almost like I'm a conduit for that now, because of what I experienced. I mean, throughout my whole life, I've always had a little bit of weird experiences, but like that was definitely something that I feel like held on for a bit and it's still something that I kind of deal with today. But, you know, I keep up my fight, keep my cross close.

And yeah, I just make sure I don't give it the power. Yeah, well, I mean, that's good, man. And, you know, sometimes things do follow us around, you know, and you're done messed up by bearing that in the yard. Yeah, tell me about it. I mean, that's one thing with me. I mentioned it on my show before. Maybe I'll retell that story someday when I came across the guy that invited me to his house and was a Satanist and all that stuff.

I mean, one of the things that I wound up doing that day was I took the Satanic literature out of his house. And I didn't want to take it to my house because taking it to my house, I didn't know what was attached to it. and so I took it to a church dumpster. I was like, well, you know, maybe this is the most opposite that I can get. And I threw it. I barely did the dumpster. But I kind of wish I would have burned the books like I originally planned on. But the guy, like, he was standing over me and he yelled to me.

He's like, no. I'm like, all right, bro. You're yelling at the wrong man. But I'll respect your wishes and I won't burn them. But it's one of those things where I kind of wish I could go back in time and redo that whole situation because knowing what I know now, the story would have gone a lot differently, and it probably would have been more of a juicy story to tell people. But because...

Yeah, right. Yeah, I hear you. I put up with a lot that day more than I should have and more than I would have if it happened today. And it's just one of those things where when you have something that might have some evil attached to it, the last thing I would suggest to anybody is, you know, bearing it on your property or even having it on your property in any form. Right. Yeah. Like you said, if I could go back and change everything from what I know now, uh, like then I was totally a novice. I was just like,

all right, I've seen this in a movie before. We're going to take care of it. And it's going to be good. And then it was like, what have I done after the fact? Just kind of like hand on the forehead. Like, man, uh, I wish I would have approached that a little differently instead of just knee jerkingly as fast as I could, you know, like, but let's get done. Maybe I should have researched a bit more. and that's uh yeah i totally feel you like if i could go back and redo that situation i totally would yeah it's i mean like you said you were not like i mean it was one of those things where you really didn't exactly know how to handle it but you knew you had to handle it so you did the best you could

uh you know so it's like hey does anybody have sage or one of those scented candles i just need something to burn here and you know say some chant or something i saw this in a movie once you know Right. I knew I needed to do something, but I should have sharpened my skills in that aspect. That's not how I was trained. I wasn't trained in that aspect. I was trained much differently. Yeah, I understand, man. I mean, even with me, people ask me all the time, they email me things like, you know, I have this going on in my house. How should I handle it? And I mean, I advise the best I can, but I'm not an exorcist and I'm not a demonologist. I'm not, uh, a guy who goes to people's houses and, you know, cleanses or anything like that. I, I have a very short list of things that I recommend to people that I know work from my past experiences and talking with other people that I feel is something I feel comfortable recommending the people. But when you're dealing with this kind of stuff, it is serious. And, you know, I don't take it lightly. And I don't want to suggest for somebody to do something that one wouldn't work and they lose

faith in the process or two does more harm than good. This is something you don't want to play with. And so I'm very short on the list of things that I recommend to people. And I'm very clear to people, I'm not sure if this is going to work or not. You can try it. But this is what I would feel comfortable sharing with you to do, you know? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I wish I had the arsenal then that I do now, you know, just the knowledge, the straight knowledge. And the resources that I have access to now actually. You know, things definitely would have gone down

a little different. I would have had real holy water, not some cap water that I just said, you know, blessed this water. You know, I would have had real holy water. I would have had,

you know, some verses set up. I probably would have, you know, had some more ward on myself for protections. You know, I was just kind of like,

I felt like I was just walking in there in my pajamas, you know, let's get this done. Yeah. And I quickly found out, that I was not geared up for that type of battle at all. Yeah, it's like, hey, babe, get the Aquafina deer park water.

I need it now. Yeah, yeah, basically. Yeah. I think Aquafina would have been a better choice than the water I picked out. Well, I'll tell you what, Alan. I appreciate you coming on the show and sharing these stories, man. It's really been a pleasure talking to you. And you have some really interesting stories to share

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