The Confessionals - 158: The Green Light Alien

Episode Date: September 9, 2019

On Episode 158: The Green Light Alien, we have John joining The Confessionals to share his strange and  various experiences with us. He specifically shares an encounter with an alien he had as a kid that was later confirmed by someone else who had the same experience!Become a member: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter Email: [e-mail] Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Instagram: @theconfessionalspodcast Tony's Instagram: @tony_merkel Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3 Show art: Ricardo Chucky ( https://www.artstation.com/ricardochucky)

This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappeared. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. with a giant move he's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast and spears dan holds him up like this somebody else shoot him in the face shoot him in the face they basically decapitated and i look over and there are two and they're literally i'm getting pulled off the bed

it's pushed and i touch air couldn't breathe and it couldn't move because i know i'm seeing a monster yep welcome to the show everybody you're listening to the confessionals i am your host Tony Merkel, thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or story you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. That's The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. Or go to the website, Theconfessionalspodcast.com.

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So thank you very much for following through and texting Jack and making his life a little bit more difficult compared to what it would have been if he would have just listened to my show. So thank you very much. Now, this week we have John coming on and John has had paranormal experiences, weird experiences, but he's also seen an alien entity in his backyard as a kid that was actually lit up by a green light. And then later on in life, he actually had his suspicions and his vision confirmed through somebody else who saw the same exact thing in that neighborhood. So let's get to John right now. Okay, today I have John on the show. John, how you doing, man? Been pretty good, Tony. How you doing it? I'm doing all right. We were trying to work out some

technical difficulties here, but we finally got to show up and running. And I'm glad we did because you have some interesting stuff to talk about today. You have alien encounters and some ghostly encounters and even, you know, an interesting story from when you were a photo technician. So why don't you, like we said earlier, start out chronological order. So that would start off this alien encounters. So what happened there, man? 1975. It was probably in the late summer, early fall, 1975.

And the reason I know that is because I remember the nights being pretty cool outside. And I'll tell you what. A little photo down on a story, I'll tell you. Why I knew it was that time of year. But basically it would give you a little idea. the geography of the area I lived in. There's a little place called Springboro Hall. It's between Dayton and Cincinnati.

And it's probably about, I'd say probably 30 minutes or less from Wright-Parrison Air Force Base. And it was wooded in the street down there. It was called Catapa Drive, and it was a little three-bedroom, brick ranch house. One of the things I stood out when I was a kid is that we did put our roper's on a hill so each neighbor's house you know kind of stair step down

the road as you went down the hill and our yard had a concrete retaining wall our yard from collapsing into the neighbors and on top that concrete wall was a chaining fence I was like a red girl I think it was a four or six foot fence

I don't remember specifically because the fence is no longer there anymore but my bedroom was towards the back of the house and when I laid my bed I could actually see out my bedroom window that was faced the backyard

it was probably about a half acre of land or so and I was laying in bed one night, and I heard the neighbor's dogs barking, and they knocked over the trash cans. They made all kinds of commotion. And I got up from my bed

and walked over towards the window to look out. And when I looked out the window, I saw this greenish color light coming from the sky. It was real bright. On the ground in my backyard was this alien being walking in the light.

And the light was falling in it. And I couldn't see no spacecraft or anything like that. All I could see was just this being walking in my backyard with this green light shining on it. And it was, I remember slime when you were a kid that color green.

Yeah. Remember specifically at beating that color. And I can't tell you, I can't make out a lot of details because I didn't stay at the window very long. In my parents' bed, screaming and hollering if there was something walking around into the backyard. And, you know, of course, when you're a kid, your parent called you had the bad dreams and stuff. like that, but it definitely wasn't no dream. I remember, you know, it was clear today as well.

My mom also recalls me having that incident when I was young. Can't pay any other details over than that, but at the same period time, developed sleepwalking issue and

sleepwalking. And I don't know if this was shortly before. I saw the data. being in my yard or after, but I actually woke up walking out my front door one morning, and I don't do that anymore, but during that period of time also, I developed a fear of humming noises until about the age of 10. So if I heard on the TV, it was humming or static coming, you know, back in, we didn't have cable,

You know, you had to tune your rabbit ears or whatever. If it goes static or something, it was not far harm to turn it off. And that was a fear I had all the way up to about 10 years old. I don't know where that came from, but it also was dim from that experience. I had. And while we were at that house, we were there a couple of years one morning with a collapsed trachea. And I couldn't breathe. He couldn't go to a hospital.

My days, about a week almost, and an oxygen tip. And they went sure of what caused it. I had no injury. Look at the middle night for no apparent reason and couldn't breathe. And they don't know what happened to my throat. But about 1989, between 75 and 1989, I had to get out away from the Springboro area. I'd moved back in my senior year. My father had lived there for a long time.

I moved with my father to finish out my last year of high school. I'd met this girl there that we started dating and become my first wife and we had three kids together. But in 1989, though, while I was still a senior, I was over to her house one day. I was talking to her brother. She had an older brother. probably five years older than me. And he was stationed up in Alaska

in the military base up there. He was telling me about some of his experiences he had with different lights and stuff like that in the sky. I started telling me about my story about seeing that Indian in my backyard. I'm everything I just told you and his hair was standing up on his arm.

he got a little white and I was like, man, what is wrong? It's not that scary of a story. He said, well, he said, I have my best friend. He said, you look over that way. And he told me the same story. And so I actually end up introducing me

to his friend. I never knew who his friend was. I didn't even know him. One day I went to work with. He worked with his best friend and he introduced me. So his friend had, seen the same thing I like being

back in 1975, so I was 13 years later, 13 years later so here I'm finding somebody else that's in the same thing that, which is interesting,

it made some validation but the junior date the same girl before we got married and I started college taking college courses and I worked in a photo lab part-time

And that had been about 1990 to 90, I think. We'd had contracts and stuff with some of the local government agencies. For instance, we not only could you walk in and get off your old film and get your pictures an hour later, but we've done, you know, custom prints as well. We've done black and white. We've done enlargement. My job is pretty much going to enlargement, an enlargement. a preying out from 5x7s to 11 by 14s.

11 by 17. I ever get stuff in from sometimes I get stuff in from a Dayton Corners Laboratory. Unfortunately, we get to process pictures for court cases, murders and deaths and stuff like that. I don't know that one time

from Church Laboratory. I don't mention to say the name of it, but it was local to where it worked. And this machine that I worked, this large machine that I ran I got probably about like a 7, 7 inch

monitor on it. So I take a negative, you know, put it in it like an easel. Slide in this machine and it bring up a positive image of what's in the negative and then I could, you know, adjust for color saturation and crop it and

stuff like that and print it out. It was kind of fun, especially when I got in there. pictures of local model photographers bringing negatives for me to run all the time. Yeah, and I always know, I always had this tour. It was like, actually the mistakes, you know. It was like, oh, man, that's not good enough. And maybe his wife had a pretty cool gig.

They would go around to local restaurants and even bars, and they would hire these women to model. like night wear negligence and all that stuff. So I always enjoyed those kind of pictures. They're doing that work. They're much better than doing like the corner stuff. But anyways, back to the research laboratory.

I'm getting this envelope with some negatives in it, and the guy wanted like five by seven enlargements. not only read the name on the envelope negative negatives it was like three or four images in the first frame and up came on the screen with coordinates of like the features

of a lot of eight any being and I should remember in school having to use grid paper but you know how it had all the little squares basically I didn't imagine an outline of an alien.

And in the corners of its eyes, it would have the coordinates on that grid. The nose, the location of everything. I didn't actually see, like, a body, you know, a physical body in there, but it was like the outline

of everything of a body. And so I, because I had the experience, did in 75, all the way and stuff, I was always fascinated with GFOs. I always worked on my term papers or whatever, Roswell, the Roswell incident

or something like that happened. And I called the number, and I asked for the guy that was on the paper, and it said the name of the medical on the envelope, and he got on the phone. I told me this is, what about, you know,

I'm processing your images right now. And the fascination with E.O.C. and stuff like that. So you had an experience when I was a kid, what exactly is this? He says, well, probably nobody's going to believe you. He said, but that's from an alien autopsy. And, okay, that's kind of weird.

That's what it is. But anybody don't believe you say, ain't worried about. I finished printing them and put them in an envelope and he came in and picked them up later. And then fast forward a few more years, I think it was probably about, right around

98, 94, I had gotten into, took us computer repair course and I started kind of getting fascinated with computers and that was back. Really the internet AOL just came out. I don't even remember going on a

grocery store but on every shelf there was a three-and-a-half-inch floppy disk with a 30-day free trial for America

a line. And that just started like right after I got in the computers and anybody that was really messing with computers

back during that time he got familiar with what was called bulletin boards and a bulletin board basically you run a little

program on your computer it was like a file server and you have a modem in your computer and you have your modem into your incoming phone line and then you could dial up other bolts of boards and you could dial yours and you could share files, get files from each other.

And I was back when you had, you know, you had the 14-4 mode, I mean, it wasn't the fastest thing in the world. It was a nonprofit organization, and they were based on the right Paris and Air Force based on what I remember. And they put out a flyer, a monthly flyer,

and I guess I can probably say the name now that it's not used to get it out. But it was called, I remember specific, it was called D-RAM. I remember because he ran, you know, back in the day, It was, I guess, dynamic lamb. And in that magazine, they would acknowledge you in the computer field and stuff. It was something, you know, like 10 or 15 pages, and you pick it up in their local computer hardware supply store. You know, you didn't go and best buyback.

They didn't get a computer. You went to a little computer outlet that would custom build a computer for you, and you put together, pick out your video card and what hard drive you want, amount of RAM, everything. because they custom building for you. And the magazine, every new, I don't seem like there was always, I never one had it.

So I would go through and find the local bulletin boards that I'd have to call long distance to connect my computer to. And if you're lucky, if you're lucky, the guy had like multiple phone lines in his house. Right. So you had a better chance to get on one because every time you went to try,

to dial up someone's bulls and bored, you know, it was a busy, get a busy signal. Yeah. And so I found this one, and I remember the name of it. It was called refrigerator. It was local number for me. Dialed into it, and I was searching around, I put in a UFO or something. I don't know what I had, keyboard I used to search it. But anyways, I came across a file that said Project Blue Book, and I, I,

I didn't know what Project Boo. Even I had some fascination in my experiences over time. I never even heard of Project Boo book. And there's a description on the file, and the guy said, I put it several times, but it keeps getting deleted off my computer. I was like, oh, it must be good, so I downloaded it. And I went through it.

Stop reading after a few pages, and it gets it got kind of a little bit creepy. but, you know, basically I checked the suit if Project Blue Book was legitimate. And I guess it was, and it was something that part of, I guess, the government had kind of of shut down, I guess, around the late 60, already 70s. But apparently, what was in this project book I downloaded,

stuff was still going on up until in the late 80s, an alien autopsy. And I actually went in the detail and said that the federal government had eight of these aliens in captivity. Somewhere between 87 and 89. And out of those two of them,

I suppose it was still living at that time. The part went in to talk about how they have I guess a brain in two separate hemispheres and how that they excrete their waist is through their skin and then

this diet for them is a liquid diet because the look at the digestive system right after that is when I start breeding it because it was a little bit of three people it like just as much yeah you know John I find it interesting because when I was was a kid, I remember getting on the internet and I would search similar things like aliens and

things like that. And I don't remember very much as far as where I was on the internet to see this stuff. But I mean, we're talking about, you know, the late 90s. And I remember coming across these images of these alien bodies. And it scared me so bad because it looked so real. And I had never seen anything that looked that real on TV or in movies. Like, we're talking about, you know, 20 some years ago where technology wasn't what it is now. And when you had a computer image of something on TV that was supposed to be quote unquote real, you could tell it was fake.

And this didn't look fake at all. It was like these dead bodies laying on this, like, table. And it scared me so bad. It makes me wonder if, like, in the early 90s, kind of like in the 90s when the internet was really becoming popular, or not popular, but public. I mean, it makes me wonder if, like, a lot of this stuff was leaked on the internet in the early days, and people could see this stuff, and they locked it down later on. I mean, is that how you feel about it?

Oh, exactly. Yeah. I mean, from what I told you, that's what I do for a living is, I mean, I work in an IT field. You know, back then, like I said, you know, you dial up another guy's modem. you know, and computer files and download the files but you know

the government anybody that had computer systems back in those days and even up into late 90s had analog modems so that you could

you know download your patches from your vendors for your software or you know their files and everything so

the security technology has come a long way so people had a lot of holes in their system they didn't know back then. So there's a lot of that information was accessible and people didn't know that you know those files are being accessed from their systems. Like they can today, about all my experience with the extraterrestrial stuff. I wanted to ask you a little bit.

I wanted to ask you a little bit about that before we go any further. When you were a kid and you saw what you saw, do you think that there was any interaction that you might have had that you forgot about with this thing that you saw walking outside because the reason why I asked that is because it seems like you clearly had some kind of side effect maybe from this where the humming noises scared you. I mean, that's kind of very out of left field odd. And then on top of that, the sleepwalking, you're not sure if it was before or after, but you distinctly remember sleepwalking around that time. Do you think that there was an interaction that you had with these things that Maybe you just don't remember?

Well, I mean, there could be that possibility. I don't remember. But I know that, you know, my family's, at least from my grandmother's side, is very sensitive to things. I was very sensitive as a kid. I still am today. I mean, there are some places I won't go if I don't get a good vibe from it. But, you know, I. I certainly hope not.

I don't know what they would have got out of me back in. You know, five-year-old was not. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't recall anything. I don't recall any experiences, you know, seeing them up close or transported somewhere or anything. The only thing, like I said, I recall is somebody's sleep with sleepwalking and humming noises definitely. I don't know what it was about humming noises.

but I did not like him. And I don't know, I thought maybe one day I might, you know, go to one of those people that, you know, does that reverse psychology, not reverse psychology, but reverse therapy type thing. They want to take you back in time and maybe see it. With the whole photo lab thing that you were working in and you were tech there, what makes you think that why would they even risk it? I mean, if you're talking about some kind of underground operation here, why would they choose to use a public facility?

You would think that they would have some kind of like their own facility to do the things that you were doing? You would think so, but, you know, you didn't have a lot of one-hour labs. I mean, they started getting popular shortly after ours, but, you know, if you wanted something quick, you know, you come into us and we'd get a, and then right back to you within an hour. And an accident that I can figure out. I don't know. I mean, I had a, I had a, my own photo lab at my house. My father was a photographer in the Army,

on photography all my life. And, you know, it was back in. It was, you know, you had to have a flaw in equipment to involve your own pictures. And it was, you know, I don't know. I would, I would suspect. that they probably would have had, probably not our type of a margin machine, a commercial grade, but they would probably have had their own photo that I would have thought and processed

your own stuff. And, you know, it could always been some guy just making something up. I don't know. It went to a lot of trouble, you know, to just make something up for himself. Yeah. And, you know, that's the thing with that whole concept is that, if he was just making something up and trying to, you know, pull somebody's leg, I mean, I don't know. I just, I don't understand that, that why somebody would do something like that. Like, if I was going to hoax something, I would hoax it in a sense that I wanted to go big on a big scale, not just something, you know, where, hey, the local phototech guy is going to get a little chuckle out of this and ha, ha, ha. But, like, I mean, because that's all it was. I mean, it's not like you went public with it.

It's not like it went any further than you. And clearly in those days there was Internet, I mean, you would think that somebody, if they're trying to hoax something, put it up on the Internet, put it in one of these forums, these bulletin boards, and let people see it and get attraction going.

I mean, that's how people did stuff back then. It wouldn't be, you know, to go to a local photo place and have them see this, what should be, top secret layout. Yeah. You know, and just, I don't know that people, you know, back then it was like people had this impression that like we didn't see what we printed out.

And to give you an example, I remember one time we actually called a child molester when I look at that lab. Because when we printed out pictures, we went through and checked all of them. and to make sure that, you know, we didn't have them too dark or too light or, you know, the colors were correct on it. And I guess people were under the impression that we put them in some machine or just popped them out.

We put them in our bag and we never looked at them. And I mean, I mean, people asked now all the time that we really realized that we looked at it. I mean, some of the pictures we used to take it. can for film, man. I'll tell you.

You'd be surprised what people take pictures of it again. But... I bet life was good at sometimes. Sometimes you're like, no, I don't want to see this. Yeah, there were specific people that sent stuff in all the time.

I was like, doesn't this person realize that I'm looking for stuff they're sitting in? But, you know, it happens. So you said you actually caught a, you guys caught a child molester with that? Yeah, we did. Yeah, he dropped off a bowl of film.

I won't go to details on it. Sure. He dropped off football film, and we spotted it in our lab, and he was coming back for the one-hour processing, and they held him up and told him that, you know, we were having some issues, and the issues we were having, we were waiting for the police to show up.

So we tried to hold him off and make a guy. And I get pretty much called red-handed. Wow. You know, like, how, how, man, that guy must have been really dumb, really, really dumb. When you're doing something so illegal and so messed up and you go to the photo lab and they're like, oh, we're having issues, clearly the issue is the things that were you were trying to get printed. Exactly. Like, how stupid can you be? Like, and that's what I'm saying is, you know, a lot of people do.

They don't know, like, you know, now you go to Walmart and just stick your ass. memory card in the machine that brings up your image you printed out. You know, back then, people didn't think we really looked at stuff. They thought we put it in a machine and it automatically done it. And we put an envelope and we didn't see it. Except, you know, people had custom enlargement stuff. They obviously knew. But I can count it all the time.

You know, people just didn't know we actually look through the pictures. And I would look through, I put this glove on. I look through every single picture to make sure that it was a problem. best print that we could do for the customer and we like I said we we even done stuff for the Corners Laboratory

and I hated that for every picture I mean one time we had not to get off track here but one time we had the process 700 black and white pictures for a a murder I think it was around Dayton Ohio

and well yeah from the Dayton Corners Laboratory. So it was going to court Dayton, Ohio. And as I said, it was still in the black and white pictures. And the guy that worked in the black and white lab there, after the first week, he took the next week off because we just got to him and I had to do it and finish up some of them.

You know. Yeah, I'm sure. I was moving forward. I'll talk a little bit about my ghost experience. Yeah, go ahead. I had the experience with the A-then, walking in my backyard, they moved to an area as a farmhouse.

Our driveway was probably about, it had to be 100,000 feet. And I remember, because we were living there during the blizzard I believe 77 or 78 when we had that big

blizzard and the house I always had a bad feeling in the basement in the house in general and like I said

from a young age I had kind of just very sensitive stuff obviously the noise is the humming

noise is but I guess we call intuition my younger sister one day we're down

in the basement I had this a water canteen plastic canteen and I used to wear it on my side because I always thought that was in the arm you know

and I laid it in a shower stall in the basement and you know it was kind of an unfinished basement and I had a concrete shower down there and then one room and then of course we had the washer and dryer down there

and that was about it you know it was kind of one of those damp unpainted creepy basement that did have a concrete floor and stuff, you know. But I put that canteen in the floor, that shower. I told my sister, I said, if that canteen moves, you run.

And I don't know why I thought it was, but let it drain out. And it scooted across the shower floor. And, man, we all butt up the stairs, peckified. And I was like, I knew this place was haunted. And, you know, I'd be laying a bed at night and I'd get a feeling like something was in the hallway or somewhere. And I was kind of kid that, even though I was scared, I would kind of go face it type thing. And get out of my bed and go to the hallway. And, you know, my heart would be racing.

I'd be feeling like there's something there. I'd go look in the future that was there. I remember that one time I saw a full body apparition of a, excuse me, appellation of a male in my parents' bedroom. And I could see through it, and I could see it walking by the bedroom door. The time I was laying in bed and my bed lifted up off the floor. And I don't know how far it lifted off the floor, but my feet were on the ground. pretty quick when I felt

that I was headed my parents' bed but told them I had too long we moved a lot

when I was a kid in the middle town house that my grandparents had owned and they had lived in another house about two homes down

and this house came up and I guess the people fell in hard times my grandfather bought the house from them and they lived

and lived in this split foyer and when you walk in the front door. If you look straight up, there was the living to your left, the kitchen to the right.

But straight up in front of you, upstairs was three bedrooms. And you could see them. There was a railing that went across. And the far right, and when I stayed in, I stayed with my grandparent a lot, and I was good, too. I idolized my grandfather, so as much time with him as I could. And so I stayed there, I'd stay in the middle bedroom,

but every night I would I would leave that bedroom because I just got a feeling that someone was watching something wasn't like that bedroom and I'd either call up a way between them

or say I'm in the bed that house we eventually moved Texas and then I moved where you know they had moved Texas and at some point

my uncle their son rented the house from while they were down in Texas and he would come in sometimes from work he'd get in real early from work about in the afternoon

he'd take a nap sometimes because he'd go, he'd leave for like 2 o'clock in the morning go to work so he'd get up in a full day and told me one time that he laid down that middle bedroom and he woke up and something was holding him down

on the bed and he couldn't see what it was. He couldn't get out of the bed. And all he could do was start praying to God that whatever it was would leave. Eventually it did, but it was confirmation to me that something was always off in that bedroom, and I don't know. I just felt like there's some type of evil spirit or something.

Of course, he thought that as well, especially after his experience. I currently live. Mr. Frederick's Bergeny now, lived in this area for about, no longer. over 21 years. And a little three-bedroom house here. I'm like a private, gated community. And woods and a lake and this house that I was built in my community. And I actually knew the previous owner.

I used to come over here and help my grandfather. My grandparents actually moved here, Virginia. I kind of followed them. And about her graph. So that's the place came out. fell and I ain't up making an offer on it. I know she was the only person I lived here after it was built.

First thing I noticed, let me give you all background about this area. We're right in the middle of Civil War battlefield. And if you ever look up Battle of Wilderness, the battle was fought around here, of course,

anywhere in Northern Virginia or something place or monument or something. but the woods called on fire because of the Civil War battle and one of the soldiers burned up. Anyways, I started to come out from work and I noticed

there was a picture of my daughter that I had my little friend and I was sitting my old table bar and go on and I come in with other pictures but every time I come in that takes her a space down and I had framed you know, picture frame. I'm maced with a little bit.

I was like, it don't seem like it's oddly. You know, I started noticing it more often. I said to my wife, I said, why's that a picture down? I said, you know, I come in from, out of all the pictures,

hers is one face down. And one night, took the picture, and I set it between me and I was a little of my recliner, and then on the other side of that table was another recliner. And I set it right there,

and face it. towards me. I went to bed that night, and about an hour or so later, I got up, and the first thing on my line was, I'm going to go check that picture, and I came out here in the living room, looked at it, and it was turned the opposite way on the far side of the table. It had been moved. It kind of freaked me out a little bit. I haven't really had much of anything else.

my wife might have anything else besides that other than my wife one night got something tapped her on the back

of the shoulder uh she was in just minute hiding and she was in a middle bed and she thought it was me she turned around

nobody's there and I kind of freaked her out and my wife uh be home one night and they're coming back from somewhere and she said

what are those guys done on the side of the bird I'm like what guys I don't see anybody And she said, it was back here, we just passed him. And when she discarded it was a description of what civil war soldiers were back then during the war. And I noticed on Facebook, like within a week after, which was weird. Several people around here was reporting seeing up by the battlefield, crossing,

the road down here which is Route 20. Some ghost activity. I know of a person down the street from me that they had to sell their home because they actually had a full apparition in a Civil War ghost. And

their family wouldn't come and stay with him. And it was pretty about that you, done some work for the lady. She said that when he asked her, wife sat on the place. He said that the daughter comes down here from Maryland to stay with her.

And so the war goes to her house and when her daughter saw it, she would not come back. So she had to sell her house further north of Virginia. The gist of my experiences. And I guess that's more, one reason I'm more open to what other people see because, you know, my experience is, you know, being young, I guess I feel more open

to other people's experience. And today I pretty much, I'm not into UFOs or paranormal stuff. I'm big time in the Sasquatch. Not that I don't want to see one. But that's actually how I came across your show was on West Gurmmer's Sasquatch Chronicles. And we listen to that like every day. So we hear you every time you jump on there. I didn't want to tell my story to feel like I need to get off my chest because I really don't bother

me. I never felt like I needed somebody talked to about my experience. I didn't care of people who believed my experience or not, but it did happen. And I was just more curious if people, anybody else, and the other person I met,

seen the same thing I did, you know, Springboro Hall in 1975. Back then, it was a township. I think that now, you know, now it's matter of fact in the late age it's still a township

I think it might be a city now you know because it's grown so much but you know I'm just

you know there's a lot of people that's reported seeing or aliens UFOs Sasquatch or whatever

and uh too many reporting for you know for people not really be seeing something

I mean if one person right is telling the truth and something exist, so I have an open mind that kind of stuff. And, you know, I grew up in church. And I, well, you know,

it doesn't talk about Bigfoot and eating and stuff in the Bible, but it doesn't say they don't exist, so it tells me it could exist, you know. Sure. You know, I wanted to ask you a little bit, John, about that interaction you had with the guy who saw what you saw when it came to the alien encounter.

What was that like, you know, sitting down and talking to somebody who saw what you saw, and it wasn't the same exact day in time, right? No, it wasn't. No, it was actually probably a year or two later, because I actually ended up marrying this girl I was dating, and her brother and him worked together. They were two and diemakers. and when I went to see him, we didn't talk much about the experience.

It was like, hey, this is the guy that's telling me about, oh, okay, I know you're talking about now, you know, that type of deal. You know, we just didn't really bring much up about it basically, I mean, it was good enough for me. It was like, I remember that for all these years for some reason. I was still happening.

Yeah, now with that alien and, to see that you saw walking. I mean, how tall was this thing? Was it like a short little thing, or was it tall? Because I've heard reports of them being, you know, seven, eight feet tall and all the way down to three feet tall. It was about the size I was, and I was five years old. So it couldn't have been much over four feet if that.

Probably maybe not even that. And it seemed to me it had some type of uniform on. That's what I recall, but I can't recall the details. of it because I said, you know, here I look out the window, I see this bright light, and I'm falling it down on the ground. You know, it's like coming from the roof of my house type thing. And when I fall it down to the ground, it's like, it's just in my backyard. The dogs are still going nuts.

You know, you can get the chain. They're trying to get through the chain-link fence, trash cans, being knocked all around. I was enough to get me out of bed over the window and see what was going on in my backyard. Yeah. Well, John, man, I really appreciate you sharing these stories and stuff because it's not every day you get to talk somebody who actually saw one of these entities and in the situation that you saw it. You know, like it wasn't like you were, you know, being abducted or anything like that. You just, you looked out your window. You saw what you saw. And then the fact that you had somebody else corroborate your story years later saying they saw the same exact thing. I mean, that has to make you feel good. to make you feel like you're not going insane or you made something up or dream something. Yeah, I did. I mean, it was a good confirmation. And my mom would have been confirmed, you know, because, you know, it was not long ago.

I said, hey, remember the time I saw it in our back to the arts to the year. I remember. Yeah, I never forgot it either. I was pretty petrified. I mean, you know, I guess it was a little different about you. So, I mean, being versus, you know, like a UFO or something. something, which is one reason I want to share my story is a little bit different. Yeah, for sure. And, uh...

Not like I was a butt dude or anything. No. But it definitely, definitely interesting and, you know, down to the photo lab story and everything. Uh, man, I just want to say thank you very much for sharing that with us. And, uh, I really appreciate you coming on the show and sharing. Well, yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I hope somebody else says, here you go. So, uh, something like that around the same time. That'd be kind of cool. but thanks Tony for having me on and I enjoy this into your show. Well, that's the show, everybody.

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