The Confessionals - 180: A Life of Abductions

Episode Date: November 19, 2019

In Episode 180: A Life of Abductions, we speak with guest Ryan who seems to have been involved in a lifelong abduction scenario. Ryan goes into detail about what he’s been experiencing - and with whom he has been experiencing it. We cover all the abduction “bases” on this episode, and even ask Ryan if he believes that time travel was involved in these abductions. Ryan has only just started to speak out about the strange things he’s been through, and we welcome him to The Confessionals to unload this story that has been weighing him down for far too long. BECOME A MEMBER AND GET ADDITIONAL SHOWS: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/join Tickets for ParaCon 2019 at Pennhurst Asylum: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/live-events Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail]: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcastTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelShow Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUwShow Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3Show Art: Alika Spahn Naihe (www.hauoliart.com)Audio Trailer: Dalton Boyd (www.soundcloud.com/supernova-city)Outro: Djs From Mars - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FafT6m4uQxg

This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappeared. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. Well, the giant moves. he's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast and spears dan holds him up like this somebody else shoot him in the face shoot him in the face they basically decapitated and i look over

and there are two and they're literally i'm getting pulled off the bed it's pushed and i touch air couldn't breathe and it couldn't move because i know i'm seeing a monster yep welcome to the show everybody you're listening to the confessionals i am your host tony merkle thank you for being here If you've had an encounter or a story you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. That's The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. Or go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the contact section, and you can reach me that way as well. Either way it works for me, just get a hold of me.

And if you're interested in having an extra show every week, every Thursday we release an extra bonus show for members only on the website. So if that interests you, go to the Confessionals. Podcast.com and become a member today. Now, I want to let everybody know I had some fun this past weekend and I created a Christmas ugly sweater or should I say an ugly Christmas sweater. Yeah, an ugly Christmas sweater. And it has to do with an up and coming episode that we're going to be broadcasting in December, December 17th actually. We're going to be doing an interview talking about the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy. Did he kill himself? Is he dead? Who killed him? What's going on behind the scenes of this whole thing when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. And I created an ugly

Christmas sweater kind of supporting that episode. So if you want to check it out, go to the Confessionalspodcast.com, hit the store section and you'll see it in there. I want to let you know that this ugly Christmas sweater is only going to be for sale until December 31st. So if it interests you on purchasing it, I would hop on it fast because we are going to take it down for sale at the end of next month. Now, on today's show, we're going to be talking to Ryan. And it's a little bit of a different interview where in the fact that I did not know much about Ryan before I sat down to talk to him. He sent me a very vague email. My wife saw it first. She talked to me about it. She said,

this guy has a lifelong of abduction scenario, but that's pretty much all he said. Should I ask for more information? And I said, nope, I actually want to talk to this guy already because when somebody tells me they're being abducted their entire lives, I got to hear the story at least and make a decision afterwards, whether I think it's show worthy or not. Well, obviously, I think it's show worthy because we're airing it today. Ryan comes on to talk about his experiences when it comes to feeling like he's been abducted his entire life.

And we're going to get into that right after the trailer for this coming Thursdays member episode. And I'm actually really excited about playing it because, it means the return of my producer Dalton. Dalton took a few weeks off from producing these member episode trailers because he actually lost a very close friend of his. In fact, it's his best friend. And I wanted to give him his space. And I'm really excited that Dalton has made a return to the show.

And as his return to the show comes, he is bringing a great members episode trailer. So let's go get to it right now. I really want to do is I want to talk to you about this. that seems to have been following you. And to me, it sounded like you were being taunted by this. And it seems like as soon as you started stepping into it, it lost its motivation to taunt you. Like it was getting off on the fact that it was scaring you.

Is that how you feel? Kind of not really. He is actually in the room with me right now. I can feel him. It's something that like, it's like a thing that just follows me throughout my life. Like we've moved houses and it's been following me and following me. you know, like I feel like it's something that is waiting for the moment still to just destroy me. Like whether I, whether it, you know, taunts me so much when I commit suicide

or just physically destroys me. And I know right now, you know, it's like that, you know, you watch some of these shows and it's like the person with the six cents, you know, they have the telepsis or whatever, they have that like spiritual superpower or whatever. Well, I honestly think this thing knows that I have the person with a six sense. You know, they have the, you know, they have the telepsis or whatever. I, you know, they have the, ability to just like crush, like, I could just crush, like, evil in a sense. Like, that's kind of how I feel, like, my job is. Like, it's a good versus evil. Like, God gives some of these people, like, this power for whatever reason.

You know, I don't really know the reason. I don't understand the reason. I'm not a perfect person. So I think this thing is trying to destroy something that knows it can destroy it. So it's, like, defending itself, kind of, if that makes sense. So it's in the room with you right now? Yeah, no, it's in the room with me right now. I actually saw it in the back.

I'm by a computer screen. The computer screen's off, and I saw it fade in and out of a wall behind me, like for about 10 seconds while I was on the phone with you. I'm waiting for it to, like, turn off my phone because it's done that before. I actually had pictures of it on one of my phones, and it deleted them off my phone. I completely deleted it. Do you ever feel like it is trying to possess you in some way? It's obviously interacting with you internally through your dreams.

Do you ever feel like this is actually going to a place where it's actually trying to house itself inside of you? No, I don't think so. Because it does seem to house itself within my house somewhere. If, like, it won't be, like, if I leave the house, like, it's not there, you know, it's not, like, with me, like, in the car. But when I come back to the house, like, it's back in the house. It's gone from both houses in Ohio to, like, the one in South Carolina that I live in now. All right. Today we got Ryan on the show.

Ryan, how you doing, man? Pretty good, man. I bet youself. Doing good, doing good. So, you're an interesting guy, man. So I hear you, you've been dealing with a lifelong abduct. scenario. And, you know, when you shot us an email with your experience, you really didn't go into a whole lot of details. And my wife usually goes through the emails before I get to them. And she

mentioned your email to me. And she said, do you want more information? Or she actually, she said to me that she was about to send you an email asking for more information. And I told her, I said, now, don't even bother. I said, I want to talk to this guy. Because just the way you described it in the email, you said that it was a lifelong. abduction scenario. I was like, you know what, let me just talk to this guy and see what he has to say. So we're going into this one, not knowing a whole lot about your story, but I'm very excited about talking to you because of the fact that, you know, this is something you've been dealing with your whole life and you just recently started coming out and talking to people

about it. So without any further delay in your story stuff, man, could you please share with us what you started experiencing, when you started experiencing it and just kind of walk us into some of these scenarios you've been going through? Yeah, okay. So at first, the first, I guess, conscious, like, recollection of anything was around 2003. Now, I later on started, like, with most abductees and anything in the paranormal. There was a lot of signs early on in life, but they really didn't, I really didn't think much about them until later on. So I'll just get to it kind of the first thing that was pretty crazy. I got like over the top thing that ever happened. And that was around 2003. I was going to Blockbuster video, if anybody remembers those, with a friend of mine and one of his friends.

And we were going down the road, and we saw three lights in the sky, kind of like balls of light, and they would join together, and then they would shoot back out all different ways. They would come back and form. and they would disband again and then come back. And we watched this for about an eight-mile drive

until we got to Blockbuster. When we got there, a lot of the people inside came out, and they were watching it too. And that was the first thing that kind of curiosity, but what was weird about that event when I looked back is when we were watching that going down the road, nobody really spoke about it. We weren't like in awe like we kind of came to be.

be later. It was just a real quiet moment and I always thought that was kind of strange. Never thought much about it after that. And I also want to point out that anything UFO-related, paranormal, I never had an interest in. I didn't, I didn't, I was just indifferent. I didn't look it up. I didn't have no curiosity about it. I didn't read books, watch movies, yada, yada, So I went on pretty much about my day and life and around two, two, three years later, I was living with my wife at the time. And this was in a little town called China Grove. It's also in North Carolina. And we were staying with her mom.

And right beside our bedroom in the back was probably a few trees. And about 10 foot past that was an open. open field. So one night, it's probably around three in the morning, I woke up and I was in this weird kind of like fog,

sound was different. It's like I couldn't hear anything, if that makes sense. I just remember being really thirsty and I'm getting up out of bed. I'm seeing my wife at the time. She's sitting there. She's asleep.

and then I'm in really drowsy feeling that all of a sudden three balls of light come in and I remember being right around the size of like a softball I was really close to the window where they came in out probably just 10 feet away on the other side of the bedroom

and they come in really slowly they just come straight through the glass they were they were transparent air when they went in front of the TV. I can still see the TV behind them. And then that was just like one scene. The next thing, I remember it was just like a cut scene.

And that's me feeling like I'm choking and suffocating. And then I look to my left and I see a being probably three and a half foot tall standing by my wife straight ahead where the TV would be. I see one standing there. Again, they're like sort of transparent. I can see through them, the same height. Then there's one completely on top of me. And he is, it is six inches from my face. Just stare, and this is what would be your typical, what they call gray,

black eyes, you know, slanted big black eyes, just the typical, the typical what we know out to be as grace. And what was weird is it wasn't sitting on me, like, straddling me. It was as if it was standing up on the floor and it was coming through the bed. So I'm laying home to bed and it's almost like it's coming out of my stomach standing up. That makes sense. And it's this, I can feel it paralyzing me just by its look.

And I've never, I've never experienced no kind of fear like that. ever, not before or anything, anything comes close to just that looking at me. I can't move. I feel like I'm barely able to move my finger and just my wife at the time as she is being subdued, I guess there's a being standing by her. Obviously it's got some kind of control of her. And then next thing I know, I wake up.

I wake up and I don't, at the moment, I don't have no memory of that. I just get up. It's like 5 o'clock, 5 a.m. I get up and I go get something to drink and I come back and I go to bed and I don't think nothing of it. You know, research and call with me, you know, with that event and I started to send a lot of people, you know, I've never met, had similar stories with like light coming through the room and not being able to move.

You know, this was all new to me. Now it's all, like, common, you know, abduction, a baseline on all, like, abduction. But at the time, you know, this was, this was completely new to me, and I was just finding it all. And it really made me, it was really scary because I knew this was real, because people have never met right and drawn the same descriptions, because I had drawn drawings.

And from that, from that particular event, and I could send them over if you like it. And I was just, I was scared, but of what was going on more than anything. That next night, I asked my life if she remembered anything. Anything funny about the night? She said no. And I kind of didn't even speak to her about it.

I know some people would be like, well, how would you not tell nobody? I can't explain it. But as much as it's a shock when it's happening, it's like you're almost, it's like they put. put some like hold on you to not really talk much about it immediately or in the moment or afterward. I can't explain that, but I kind of just stayed to myself trying to learn about it. So that was around 2006. Around 2007, we moved to Florida, Sarasota, Florida. And on the way down there, and this was in a U-Haul truck. And on the way down, we stopped at a rest stop in Georgia.

and again, I woke up out of it, the same being on top of me again. And this was in a U-Haul van, and I was like, you know, I knew that this was like a phenomenon. I didn't matter where you were. This just wasn't like just for one location I was at. Like, this could be anywhere. And I also can't explain that I could tell it was the same exact being. that was on top that was on top of me before

nothing nothing telepathic was sad but I just I knew it was the same one and that was also just like just a real quick scene and then and then it was over

didn't speak about it to no one again and I also want to point out when I started researching this stuff and when I would go back and

think about that first event when I would see the lights coming in and then the next thing I know I would see them I later found out any of your audience who's had stuff from adoption or whatever they want to call it contact me

and if you're ever wondering if you've been abducted I'm not trying to be pessimistic here but if typically if you see them that means you're being brought back that's never, that's never like before you leave. So me seeing the balls of light is, is them coming.

And me seeing them, is them leaving and pretty much flashing my brain or whatever. And that's exactly what it felt like. That's what research has pretty much shown that I've read up on it. So, and these kind of, those kind of encounter scenarios happened. a few more times and it was inconsistent. It was pretty much peppered throughout my life. That first one being the most

traumatic, the other ones were always them leaving. And I've never done regression therapy, but I actually found a woman in my area that I'm pretty much made up my mind that I'm actually going to go see here because I am curious.

about about what has happened in those moments that I can't remember. Let's see. What else? Okay. So in between all this, I started having a lot of strange synchronities. At the time, me and my wife, we weren't together no more, and I was dating, it's kind of a bad marriage, kind of ended really bad. I'd state different girls and this stuff, and just being single because we were married for a while.

And every girl that I would talk to or go on dates with would always have an owl tattoo. And it got to the point that I would be able to guess if a girl had one before I even asked, it would just be like, it would just be fun. I'd be like, do you have an owl tattoo? and they would always be taken back. And I have proof of all this. This was like five or six, five or six different women who had owl tattoos. And I didn't think that out.

It was just, okay, that's crazy. Well, as, you know, your knowledge of the paranormal evolves. You know, I'm looking more into the phenomenon. I come across the author Mike Cleoan and his book, Al's, UFOs, and production phenomenon, I believe it's called. I could be wrong. And I remember the hair stood up on my arm because I was seeing all these connections to people. I was just randomly meeting who had these owl tattoos.

And also, they also shared abduction stories, too. And that was me not searching these people out for that. There's just random accounts that they would have a UFO story and they would have an owl tattoo. And I don't know what that means, but after reading, you know, his book, I just thought, you know, there's something there. I don't know what it is, but it's something very strange. And as far as anything that happened in my life before, before that first encounter, like I said, looking back, I see a lot of weird things. I don't think we're going to about my childhood. I used to always dream.

I don't know if it's dreaming or astro projection, but when I, you know, later on research this, a lot of people lead to that. And I would always come up out of my body. This is like eight, nine years old, for years after, I would come up out of my body and just float through the ceiling, and I would fly around my neighborhood.

And it would always be this, would feel like this invisible force, like a cord that I could never get away from my body completely. So I wouldn't float away if that makes any sense. And I would always come back to my body. This was like the most reoccurring dream that I ever experienced. All right. Let's talk about a sponsor for today's show, which is euphoric.

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plus free shipping. Now let's get back to the show. Well, I've definitely heard of that before when it comes to like astral projection out of body experiences, uh, people talking about like, I don't know if it's a visible cord or if it's, you know, just this feeling, but just this feeling of being still connected to your body and it's like you can, you'll always find your way back. And as far as you being a kid and having out of body experiences, that's something that, you know, happens to, I wouldn't say a lot of kids, but there are plenty of children who have had out of body experiences and they didn't ask for it, they weren't in control of it, it just was happening. And that happens to, you know, anybody, really, kids, adults.

And it's something that kind of freaks me out because it tells me that you're not in control of some of these experiences on that level. And it could be, for me, scary. Were you ever scared during these, you know, out-of-body experiences? Or was it something where you were? Yes, 100%. And how I knew I always felt like this connection where I wouldn't get lost from my body is when I would always come back. I would always be like a sucking power that would come slamming back into my bed in my body.

And every time that I would hit my body, I would wake up screaming and just bloody murder. I mean, my mom would tell the story better than me. But yeah, it was it was terrifying. And, you know, I also, I would always see owls outside my window, too. And these were things, like I said, they weren't funny until later on that they make me kind of wonder, like always, in areas that that shouldn't even been populated with them. Yeah, there's something with the owl, too. I mean, I've definitely heard of, you know, obviously there's an occultic connection to, you know, owls. but there's also this UFO abductee connection too.

And you're the first person that I've actually talked to in person that has made that connection and has had that experience. But I've definitely heard of, you know, owls showing up synchronicity with the synchronicity of people who are being abducted by UFOs, extraterrestrials, whatever you want to say the abduction is happening with. what do you think the significance of the owl is? Do you have any ideas? I thought about that a lot. I don't know. There's the whole screen memory thing where people see them right before they're about to get abducted. I think that's a possibility.

But in my case, it's always been whether I see a real owl or owls on a on a billboard, a bumper sticker, a girl that I'm talking to has a tattoo, there's always this, like, this connection to the paranormal with it, whether I see the tattoo that I immediately, just a random occurrence, engage in a conversation about something that has to do with the phenomenon. You know, all in warringed stuff, I don't know. I don't know the definite answer, but there is, There's some strong connection coming. I think Mike Clellan and his research on it is kind of showing that. And even he doesn't know, but there's some correlation. But I'm not sure. I also have this, and I ask my mom about this, I have this memory.

It's just a memory as a child and a kid, I always as an adult of a very big owl, like a three foot tall owl. coming down and picking up our dog as a child. I remember this. I'm dropping it. And nobody in my family or anybody recalls this memory with me. So I don't know if it was subconscious or what, but I've always just had this memory of a very, very big owl that was, you know,

later on, you know, I'm thinking, no owls are this big. this was an all white owl it's just you know weird stuff like that you know this is again this was I'll be before I had any curiosity about about this stuff right and then you know through

after the first initial which I believe was um was an abduction I know definitely a contact but I truly believe that I was taken um just by on the research I've seen with other people but

Ever since then, also just not just the synchronicities, but like psychic moments. Like anytime somebody's on my mind or I'm thinking about somebody or anything like that, I'm going to get a call. I'm going to get a text. I'm going to run into them. Just weird, strange stuff like that. And here's some of the off-the-wall synchronicities that, if you could calm that, I don't know. After living in Florida, I came back to North Carolina.

And I had some neighbors that I became friends with and there's some other people in the city. Well, when I moved back to North Carolina, you know, 700 miles away, I'm at a gas station by my house and I see this paramedic come in. The girl looked familiar. She was in front of me at the cash register and she turned around. I recognized her. She was my neighbor in Florida. I mean, you could go anywhere. the odds of meeting somebody that far away, I mean,

all or one in whatever the, you know, population is, you know, to them, to them be working right in my city. And then another friend that I had down there ended up being my neighbor like two months later without us being in communication with ourselves or anything. And this was all like around the same time. I mean, that's just, those are just crazy odds. I mean, there's a lot of synchronicities. And it's one of those things where the person going through it, you have to be left with a decision to do I make something of this or is this just a coincidence and I'm just, I'm losing my mind. You know, it's, and that's where I understand where you're talking about earlier where it's like, you know, the idea of talking to people and not talking to people, it's got to be hard to, you know, come out and just, you know, be like, this is what happened. This is what's going on. I know it sounds crazy. And maybe it is a little crazy. I don't know, but this is what's going on.

It's got to be hard to talk about it, you know, publicly. Oh, yeah, a relationship I had, you know, somebody that you're with you and really tell everything to. And I did. And she just wasn't ever really, you know, open to the idea. So, you know, it wasn't just like chastised me for it or anything like that. But I knew just after a couple conversations, this ain't something I can talk about with this person. and, you know, kind of kept it to, you know, to myself. I told some close friends, and that's when I found out, you know, sometimes I was doing by talking to people, typically they may share a similar story,

and that's kind of what I started noticing. People don't just, you know, people you interact on a daily basis, aren't just walking around with shirts on saying, hey, you know, talk to me about this. But what you do, a lot of the times you'll find out that a lot of people have had experiences. they just, you know, they're just kind of waiting for somebody else to maybe ask them, if that makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense. You know, this is kind of circling back around to what we were just talking about a few

minutes ago, but the idea of the owls, it just hit me. I'm sitting here thinking, I just talked to somebody yesterday, and it just hit me now. I was talking to a guy who had, you know, some different experiences. And, you know, it was, there were just various incidences. But his brother recalled seeing a UFO land on the foothill of their property, like a quarter mile away from their property. And he also recalled his grandfather finding three to four foot tall owls in their barn.

Isn't that weird? It's a synchronicity. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's crazy enough, but just you coming across the story, like what, yesterday? Yeah, I talked to them yesterday. Exactly. And that's, and after, you know, I read Mike Cohen's book, that stuff kept snowballing into my life. Again, it's important to know that it happened before, but because people, oh, you just like, you know, suggesting stuff because, you know, whatever, like a better word is, just because you read it.

But a lot of this stuff happened before, it only started, like, multiplying afterwards. And it's like the more that you don't ignore it, you just kind of, I don't know, maybe not embrace it, but you just kind of like, say, the universe, whatever, is kind of winked. And you just kind of, you just kind of go about your business. Like, those things happen more and more and more often. Where does that leave you now with all this stuff? I mean, are you in the middle of still being abducted in your mind?

do you think that this is stuff that's kind of passed by in life? Again, so the last time that I can consciously remember of seeing anything like that, like in my room has been years ago. But I do want to add that my ex-wife that I was when I had my first experience. She later on after we went together, she told me that she used to have experiences too when she lived in California's when me and her ever met. And it's just funny she never told me then. I don't know.

Maybe she wanted to keep it to herself. I mean, who knows. But she had experiences all the time where, you know, the same exact, you know, the same exact, you know, the same aesthetic, eduction scenario. One time she said that this one, she had her daughter. She woke up, her daughter, she woke up in just like cloudy kind of twilight zone state early morning. and there's a being right there, and she can look down the hallway

and see one standing by her doorway where her child was, and she kept saying, you're not real, you're not real, you're not real, and telepathically, she said, it said, then watch this, and then the baby started crying. And this was like a story that when she told me,

they were, like, terrified the hell out of me. And I guess maybe that's why she didn't tell me originally, because I was like kind of really confused about what was going on with me. But sometimes I wonder if by meeting her if she was

being abducted and studied on and researched and I kind I kind of got picked up by default. That always makes me wonder because I think the extreme paranormal stuff like UFOs, none of that stuff happened until after

me and her were together. And it was nothing we ever talked about either, which is just strange. I mean, I have a little scenario like the stuff I mentioned when I was a child, but any of the UFO stuff, it was after. It was after me and her. And honestly, most of it was, most of it subsided after me and her broke up too. So I don't know what the heck that means. Is there any communication between the two of you anymore?

No. A couple of years ago when I was, I was, uh, I was little. looking up on Mufon to find, because you could put in, like, the day and find if you need anybody seeing UFOs around this particular time. And I was trying to find the exact dates and time because she might remember. And I asked her about that event. I called her. And we talked for a little bit, and she remembers, you know, these episodes and around the

time. And, you know, she was able to, she was able to help me with a lack of memory around that time. But that was it. she is from a Native American descent and I've been told like that that's a that's a popular a trait for abductees too. I don't know if that's why she was abducted and then I was just because I was with her but I mean I don't know but yeah a lot of it just subsided after me and her broke up. Yeah it's interesting. I'd be interested to hear if she has experiences to this day or or what's going on with her.

When you guys were moving to Florida, and that whole thing happened, I mean, was that involving her? Um, yes, yes. Okay, so do you think you were abducted, like, at that moment with the, uh, the U-Haul? Yeah, um, I do. Um, just based on stuff I've read afterward, they don't, it's just, they don't just typically show up. it's usually just what I've read and people's regression

that you're usually being brought back at that time and I just feel it I can't, it's just annoying that I know that I was taken and she was with you

in that situation right like she was in the U-Haul? Yes so do you think she was taken with you? Most likely yeah okay now and hopefully you know

I'm thinking about like I said doing regression or people we were against it, but I want to know more. I have a lot of conscious memories, so that's one reason why I want to delve into this because it's not like I don't have no memory at first, you know? I just want to know more.

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I got you. Okay. That's where I was. Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, even that, did you have any lost time experience? Not that I can hurt because I never really, you know, paid attention to what time it was when you know, it didn't like, kind of like when you wake up in these scenarios, you don't really have, you can't really get your barrier that happened.

When I seen the light orbs coming through the window, I did, straight ahead was the TV and an alarm clock, and I seen that it was like 3 or 4 a.m. And then I remember, like, the next scene when I seen them, and then I'm waking up, I remember it saying 5 a.m. So that was like the only time I was able to actually see. And it was just a split second difference. And then two hours that went by. There was another pretty, like I said, most of them have been just that where I see them right in front of my face.

Usually one for each person who may be with me. And, you know, just kind of like put so much fear in me and then boom, it's over with. But there was another time when living in Florida where I woke up and, went to go to the bathroom, and to go to the bathroom, I had to, um, walk, walk past the living room, walk past the kitchen, and through the kitchen, it was the bathroom. So I go in there, and I do remember this was like, around the same time, it's like 3 a.m. I go in, I go in the bathroom, use the bathroom. I go to open the door, and it won't open, and, um, kind of fidgeting with it. I'm thinking I was like, that I locked myself in here somehow. And finally, uh,

it opens. And when I open the door, I should be seeing the refrigerator and part of the kitchen straight ahead. But I don't see this anymore. I see everything is in like a reddish, oranges haze. The floor is dirt. And there is a couple tables coming out of the ground, the floor of the floor. Sorry. Metallic, metallic tables, there's at least two, one straight ahead of me.

And when I'm walking out of this bathroom, again, I'm in this twilight zone moment again. I'm not freaking out. Sound is gone. There's no sound again. Straight ahead to its back towards me is a being. And I can't remember if I'm like, I don't remember walking up on it. I just remember, again, it's like the scenes change and then it's turned around. And this would be what a duck used to call like mantis.

That's exactly what, that's exactly what it looks like. It wasn't as tall as other people described. This was like probably six foot. And it was the most horrifying thing I've ever seen in my life. And it turned around. Again, it had this robe on that was really old. Old in the sense that not the time period, but it was really, really weather too.

And it was telepathically it said it's time and it took its long spindly finger and touched the middle of my head

and next thing I know I remember falling kind of out of the door in my closet onto my bedroom floor like falling through the door of the closet back in my bedroom

and then I don't really remember anything else after that. That was another crazy story. You weren't originally in the bedroom, though, right? Yeah. Yeah, I got up. I got up. I had to go pee. Went up, went to the bathroom.

When I walked out of the bathroom, my house was not there. And then after it touched me on the head, I was back in my bedroom, but in my closet, falling out. of like, the door, kind of like just kind of falling out of the door. Like, I get opening, like, me just kind of falling out. Okay.

Just remember, like, and it's been kind of waking up as a, as a, as I failed pretty much, like, kind of like to my knees. And then I do remember a little bit after that. I was kind of startled. I went into the living room, and I had a cigarette. It's kind of a nerves where shook up, and then I went to bath. I wasn't talking to nobody about this stuff either. That was dumb.

That was pretty. And it's weird because I never had issues, like real traumatic issues about being able to go to sleep, you know, thinking about when it was going to happen. I always thought that was, but every now and again, if I got it into my head, I would have issues like, you know, but pretty much my life would always just return to normal. I wouldn't really think much about it.

But here in the last few years, I, you know, researching more and meeting more people who shared these experiences and stuff. It's really got me intrigued again. But, yeah, like, most of the stuff has subsided with me. I have two kids now, just being a dad, but I'm still interested in about this whole phenomenon. And, you know, what that all meant. I wonder if it doesn't happen to me.

my kids. I mean, that's kind of the stuff I think of now. Yeah, I can understand that. I mean, if I was going through these things, I'd be worried about, you know, my kids as well. I mean, even with what I do and stuff, I'm always very careful as to, you know, what's going on in my own home because, you know, I got a kid now and I don't want him being affected by anything negative. So far, so good. So far, we've been pretty well protected spiritually at the house. But, you know, that's a big, that's a big concern. That's a big concern. And it's something that isn't too far-fetched to be concerned about because a lot of times people who are dealing with abduction scenarios, their parents have experienced similar things. And their children tend to have some kind of experiences.

I talked to a lady a couple of weeks ago who she was dealing with a lot of paranormal type stuff. And it turns out her son started drawing pictures of what she saw in her bedroom that it was attacking her. So clearly these things were presenting themselves to her child as well. And so, I mean, it's definitely something to be concerned about and to look into and be alert about. What do you think this whole thing is, though? I mean, the whole push behind the idea of abductions and, you know, extraterrestrials abducting human beings and stuff. I mean, you've had time to think about it. Why do you think this is going on?

Do you ever get a sense to what's going on and why? Our question, I guess, the why. But I've started just looking back and I'm like connecting dot, this is my own opinion. And I shared this to go with other stuff these and not so much contact these. But that's that and anybody who's had this happen will tell you there's this there's this knowing when you're in their presence that they come across as. not totally biological. They just, robotic almost,

like almost some kind of mix. And I don't know, I can't even put into words how, you know, I kind of feel that way. It's just that, you know, anytime I would have a thought in my mind and they would kind of answer it,

it was always, it just seemed like out of a, a computer database of like common responses or something. It was never nothing that seemed genuine. It just seemed like an automatic email response kind of thing. I mean, it just, something that was like biological. I know people say, you know, they're, you know, I guess this horrible bedside manner they have. And that's where a lot of people think, you know, that they are malicious.

And that's a whole other thing, whether it's good or bad. But that I don't know. I think that's above us to even understand. But I just feel that it's the responses that they've, and the simple words they gave me and other abductees is that they just seem sort of Andrew like, I don't know if you know who, what's his name? Darrell Sam's big UFOologist

for like 40 years now but he seems to think the same that they're that they're manufactured. But I do want to point out that usually there's just presented and one that's a little taller

that you're typically dealing with 101 or my case that one usually seems more real if that makes sense and everything else seems like 100%

cloned. I don't know answer your question, but that's just one part I wanted to add is that I don't know if they really have to come across space and time as advanced as they are. I don't know if they send, it just

seems like a surrogate thing or it's some sort of been in space and time and they're actually where they are at and here at the same time or I don't know, but I don't, as far as maybe the agenda and I'm not a

pessimistic person, but I've never felt good about it. And that's because I feel like if you're highly intelligent, and you, that's just, just like us as humans, if we're more intelligent than animals beneath us, then we have a responsibility, and gift to that intelligence. And that's by being kind,

and I know all humans don't do this, but, you know, we don't have dominion over everything, like, well, we shouldn't anyway. And if they're that as extras or that intelligent, then they could do things to not come across as being, be it feeling correlated, everything that it's not in the category of good. And I feel like if they're so intelligent, they have these capabilities.

Most part, you just don't hear about it. And I think that people who have honestly, that have sometimes good experiences, I think that's all BS. I think they tell you, tell you what they, what you want to hear. And it's usually a basic, you'll be fine, you're okay. I mean, this is what they, they always say. Doesn't seem genuine, doesn't seem real. Yeah, I think people who have good experiences and stuff.

I mean, maybe, if it is BS, maybe that's just the memories that they have, though, you know, maybe that they, because, I mean, if these things are abducting people, maybe they have, not even maybe, they probably do have the ability to adjust your memory and adjust what you think and all that stuff. So, I mean, it might be just a reflection as to what was implanted into their memories. Yes, exactly. The act of being taken is, is not cool. It's not cool. So whether, you know, and I get it, you know, sometimes if a traumatic thing happens, you do need to walk away with, all right, well, what was the benefits to this? Because you have to live with it. So you do need to define that, but you can't disregard being taken against your will.

And I know there's some people who said that this theory that we made in an agreement before we came here, okay? My only problem to do some, to do some mission or something, my only problem with that is, if you can't consciously recall it, it doesn't count in my books. If I don't remember making some deal, then it doesn't, it doesn't count. I mean, that does it give you a right to take people, take people's children, and I don't know, if you're so highly involved and there's better ways of doing this. But, you know, those kind of questions are just kind of like never ending. That's kind of the pursuit of all this. Yeah, I mean, there's tons of questions.

And the problem is there's a lot of people with opinions and opinions differ and people get so set in the nature of their opinions and that, you know, I'm right, you're wrong. That doesn't line up with what I think and what I believe. It's like, just because you think something, just because you believe something doesn't mean what you think and believe is right or all right. It might be just partly right. And there might be somebody out there in the world that has another piece of the puzzle that you can use to really get a full picture as to what's going on. But when dealing with this stuff, the more time that goes on, the more I see that this affects people on a very deep level, people who are abducted, but even people who aren't abducted, but just looking into the topics. And we all formulate

our own thoughts and opinions. And sometimes we get so caught up in what we believe that we now have turned off other people's stories, other people's experiences, their opinions, because it doesn't line up with what they already come into the situation, quote unquote, knowing. Yeah, that's a good point. And that's why, always anything that it's an opinion of mine now, that's not kind of set in stone because I'm by very well years from now and look at this different and, you know, because there is no answers.

I mean, that we all have like a little piece of the puzzle. That's why it's always important to listen to others. I'm not totally saying, you know, for example, that they're bad or good. I just want to know more. And in one benefit that I can take away from all this, the biggest thing was that it really, even after a lot of the contacts decided, it opened me up to the realm of all things possible in this world. My curiosity for so much other stuff, you know, quote unquote, going down the rabbit hole and finding out so much other stuff that, you know, maybe we're never taught in school, you know, good things, bad, things, everything. And, you know, it's some, it's some amazing stuff out there that we couldn't

have since of, and it's some terrifying stuff. But I truly believe that knowledge is power. And, you know, for people who have experienced anything like this, it's kind of a blessing somewhat because kind of the veil is kind of lifted a little bit. And you start seeing the world on how it is that it's not this, you know, rat race that you think, you know, the grind every day, going to work, family, like, it's bigger than that. And I look at, you know, my experience is leading me to, like, open those doors and just seeing how, you know, crazy, you know, the world is.

Yeah. And let me clarify with you. I agree with you. I don't think abductions are positive scenarios. I personally do not believe that. From the outside looking in, as far as I know, I don't think I've been abducted. but looking at the scenario and looking at people's stories, I don't think it's a good thing. And anytime somebody is taken against their will, I don't look at it as a good thing.

When something's coming into somebody's house in the middle of the night and taking them without their permission, it's not a good thing. Kidnapping isn't a good thing. And so I don't view abductions as a positive thing or anything like that. I just, when it comes to these things, I try to keep an open mind and hear everybody out. And that gets me in hot water with a lot of different communities. Even, you know, my faith is, I'm a Christian. And so I get in hot water with other Christians obtaining thoughts about certain things that Christians don't typically believe. And it's like, I don't think God would be upset with me exploring knowledge and exploring thought and, and all that. Because if God is who he says he is, then all knowledge and truth should lead back to him in some way or another.

And so I don't fear exploring things and opening myself up to other people's opinions and other thought concepts and stuff. Because for me, the curiosity of life leads there. And if I don't go where I'm curious, I'm just going to be a bored human being hating life. so I try to But as far as you go, man I mean, I hats off to you because you know, going through what you went through and then diving into it and looking into it more and more

I don't think some people would have the guts to do that. I think they would feel like they're going to attract more attention if they did that. Yeah, I have these moments where, you know, every, I'll be on this kind of this kind of moment where I'm always you know, you know, research and stuff, looking stuff up, you know,

just evolving my knowledge and curiosity of it. And then there'll be times where I'll think that I'll get my moments where I think, you know, like a lot of people say, anytime you look at the paranormal and starts looking back kind of thing, and I truly believe that. So I have my moments where I'm not,

I don't get stuck on, you know, this all the time, but then, you know, for like an entire year, it'll be all, it'll be all consuming because I'll think back at the stuff that's happened to me. And that's kind of where I'm at that now with wanting to do this regression thing again. I'm at this moment where I want to know more again. It just doesn't fit realm of possibility what we're taught. So, you know, I get used to what happened to me, but then there'll be days I'll just be sitting in traffic. And I'll think, like, Holy hell, like, that's, this is crazy as hell. Like, I want to know more. I'd be happy to, to update you once I go through with this regression thing, because I've already talked to, the woman she's been doing it for like 20 years, Duran for years, trying to find the right person. So, be happy to let you know how that goes. Yeah, absolutely. I was going to ask you where you're at with the whole regression thing. I mean, because it's got to be hard to find somebody who can do regression therapy and then also be willing to do regression therapy for somebody who was supposedly abducted.

You know what I mean? It's got to be hard to find somebody who fits the bill. Yeah, that was, and I've looked years before, and that's what I would always run into. And I asked, I talked back and forth for like a week or so with Darryl Simpson. I was pretty much asking him where, how to go about that. And he gave me some pointers and point me in the right direction. And it was pretty much, you know, anybody is looking for that. It's just somebody who has a lot of, not necessarily just in euophology,

just years of experience doing regression and a typical therapist who is into, you know, are open to, you know, spirituality, anything that's anything like that, It's not your typical, you know, just I got certified to be a therapist type person. Like, they need to be somebody who's open for these possibilities. And because, I mean, that's what you're going to want. And then them have an experience. And that's what I found. Typically, the therapists who do, you know, past life regression, just by default,

they're already open to a lot of things. You're doing regression for you to remember a past. life, you know. I mean, they're already open to possibilities of a lot of stuff. So, I mean, the therapists who just do, you know, regression for like, you know, post-traumatic stress, you know, something simple, but small things like that, you know, they're probably not best suited, but, you know, the ones to do the past life regression and have years' experience doing that, that's where you're going to, that's where you're going to want to go from what that's what I've been told. Yeah. I mean, I've never done.

regression therapy. I never had a need to, but I've actually talked to some actual regression therapist and actually a friend of mine, he actually does hypnosis, or at least he used to do hypnosis, which is not exactly the same thing, but it's similar. And, you know, interesting stuff, though, nonetheless. Ryan, man, I appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences, man. And, you know, if anybody reaches out to me, you know, that wants to be in a touch with you and let you know, you know, information that they have or whatever. I'll be happy to pass on their information to you. Yeah, definitely. And if you want, I don't know what best email, but you just let me know with the one you have for me. I'll send you some photos of the original,

like drawings I took about the, like the first encounters that I experienced. Yeah, absolutely. If you, if you send me an email with that, I would be happy to post those on the show notes. Yeah. It's okay with you. Yeah, that's fun. Awesome, man. Uh, dude, I look forward to that email and thanks for coming on talking. All right, but I appreciate it. Thanks, man.

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