The Confessionals - 206: Attacks From The Afterlife

Episode Date: February 11, 2020

On Episode 206: Attacks from the Afterlife, our guest Jeff, who is a blind musician, joins The Confessionals to share some of the truly terrifying things he has experienced – some of which he can even attribute to the onset of his blindness. Jeff has had a life filled with bizarre and frightening experiences, including being abducted, living communally with a woman who was a healer, and being sexually assaulted by an entity with a decaying skull. BECOME A MEMBER AND GET ADDITIONAL SHOWS: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/join Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcast Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel Show Intro INSTRUMENTAL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyub39AXxUw Show Intro FREE DOWNLOAD: https://bit.ly/2HxNcw3 Show Art: Alika Spahn Naihe (www.hauoliart.com)

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Hit the store page, and it's all right there for you to view. So let's get to the show this week. we actually have a great guest coming on. We have Jeff, and Jeff shares a lot of different experiences that he's had throughout his life. Hint, I would highly suggest that you listen to the full episode today. But Jeff comes on and shares a lot of his different experiences, including a time where he thinks that he was sexually assaulted by either an incubus or a succubus or a person that was killed in that house. We're not totally sure, but he describes that experience. And I'm telling you that now because some of you let your kids listen.

to this show. It's a family event, but today it's up to you, but I'm just saying, giving you a heads up. You may not want the little ones to listen today's show. With that said, let's get to it. All right, today we have Jeff on the show. Jeff, how are you doing, sir? I'm really good, Tony. How about yourself? I'm doing well. So you have a few experiences you'd like to share with us, and there is one that you've had that I think will probably have some good conversation about. But I wanted to start you off with your friend Jeannie. Now, there is something to do with a rose that kind of appears and disappears, right? Yes, yeah.

So what happened with that? I was 19 years old. This was in 1968. And I went to a coffee house run by a church quite a lot. And there was a woman that worked there named Jeannie, who was my mother's age. But we became dear friends. And I got a call one evening from her niece. that said that, her niece said that Jeannie was blue

and they were going to go out for dessert, but I like to come. And I said, yeah, I'd like that. So she said, good, we'll be there and a half hour. Well, I sat down to study while I waited. And as I was sitting there, I had an experience, unlike anything I'd ever had, I felt like I was watching another consciousness

in my head almost, well, it did push me to the back of my head. And I was watching almost like I handed the controls of my body and my brain over to another entity. And it didn't feel malevolent or dark. It just, it was an experience that was so unusual. And there was a knock on the door and it was her niece. And I answered the door. And I heard myself say, I'm sorry, I can't go.

And she said, what do you mean you can't go? You said, you're going to go. She need to be so disappointed. I said, no, can't go. And I closed the door. And I thought, what the heck? I sat back down. And I began to feel this great heaviness.

And I lifted up my hand. It took great effort to raise my hand. And to walk was just like I was in concrete. I tried to speak and my voice was like a forced stroke. And I dragged myself into my bedroom and fell onto the bed and fell into a deep, deep sleep. Woke up in the morning, fully dressed, got ready to go to school, went off to college, came back, cleaned up my place. and there in the living room on the one of the chairs was something I'd never seen before. It was a red and green rose made out of ribbon.

So the rose head, the flower was ribbon folded back and forth. And the green stem was wrapped around, it looked like maybe wire. And there was a hat pin pushed into the stem. The thing was about a foot long. Well, I thought, I don't know where this came from, but I'll bet Jeannie would like it. So I put it in my backpack, and I wanted to apologize to her for not going.

And I rode my bike over to her place. And I walked in, and I again heard myself say, I think this is yours, or I believe this is yours. And I thought, I didn't mean to say that. And she took it and she said, this is mine. And she got deadly serious. And she said, my husband died 10 years ago yesterday. And he gave me this when we were first married.

And throughout our marriage, it would disappear. And then when I really needed a boost, it would appear on my dressing table. and I haven't seen this since he died. Where did you get it? I told him a story and about how my body and voice had felt the day before. And she said, he died of a progressive central nervous system disease and that's exactly how he moved and how he spoke when he died. So that's the story.

And my guess is that I was close to his beloved wife. And I would have the consciousness that was open to his connecting with me. And that somehow a portal was opened and that rose appeared. But that's the story. Well, when you were saying about how, like, you heard yourself say something, were you, like, having an out-of-body experience, or was it more like you were just, it was like your body was, like, physically doing things that you weren't mentally preparing yourself to do. Yeah, yeah, it was the second.

I was definitely in my body, in my, in my head, but watching my body, like I said, is if I had turned the controls over to another being. Yeah, that's interesting. Very unusual. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely would say that's unusual. And I mean, and with the rose and stuff, I mean, you mentioned about a portal.

And that's sometimes I wonder, like, I guess what you just said, I mean, is as good as anything as far as a portal goes. I mean, I've had this conversation with other people where, you know, do you think it's, you know, it's in one location and then just physically disappears and then travels unvisibly to another location and reappears? Or does it, like, if somebody were to be able to watch it, would it, like, just move on its own to another location? But I think a portal sounds like a pretty good, you know, estimation as to what could be happening when things disappear and reappear. Yes, and of course, I think all of us have had that experience you spoke about, like, you leave your keys someplace, you go back and look for them, they're just, they're not there. And you look three times over and then they're there. So who knows? I think that's, who knows, in that case, you know, it may be something as simple as a, or simple, something like a poltergeist in your, house. Whereas this, I think there's something more to it. Maybe it's the same phenomenon, but I never met her husband and she and I maintained our friendship until her death. But that was one of

kind, that one. Yeah. So what happened with your daughter? I mean, your daughter was, what, four years old and she had some things going on in her bedroom, right? Yes, I lived in a house at that point. I was 1988, and I moved into this house in 83. It had belonged to my mother's second husband after my dad died. She remarried. And this fellow's wife had died in that house. And from what I have been told by his children, she had a very unhappy life and a very difficult death.

Well, my daughter was four and I would sleep on a dime, might be the parent that would awake when either of our children were fussing at all. And I went into her room and she was tossing back and forth and saying, leave me alone, leave me alone. And by that time, I had had a lot of experience with disembodied entities, with the souls of those who are kind of hanging around the earth because of unable to let go. And I was familiar with the sensation of being in the presence of, like I said, a disembodied entity, kind of a tingling, an energetic feeling that you could feel that there was another presence. And that was such in my daughter's room. Well, I would pray, my first reaction was anger. You know, just leave her alone.

And I would just kind of battle. And then I thought, you know, probably the greater good would be to, pray for their release from whatever it was and not be angry but try to be compassionate. And I would pray and say the Lord's prayer. Well, it continued. This pattern continued, not nightly, but probably a few times a week. We had a friend that was staying with us. And he woke up and went into her room with me.

and he felt the energy. And he got his Bible and let it fall open and dropped his finger. And he said, this is a technique that he had used. And it inevitably pointed at some wisdom that related to the situation. Well, where he pointed in the Bible was the 91st Psalm. And the line was something. like, and now shall protect us from pestilence by night, you know, from negativity by night. So we left his Bible open in her room, but boy, this thing continued.

One night, her covers were pulled completely off the bed onto the floor at the foot of the bed as if someone grabbed the top of the covers and just gave them a great pull. and they landed in a rectangle on the floor, not kicked off, but pulled off. And again, my daughter kept saying, leave me alone. Well, I would do this soul battle, whatever that energy was.

And then it stopped. And it stopped just at the point that the woman who died, her daughter, began to have seizures and went into a coma and died in the hospital. And I think that what happened in that case was that she, the woman who had died

was wanting to pull my daughter over, pull her over to the other side to ever die so she would be in the world of spirit with her. And when that didn't work, she found her own daughter and was successful

in pulling her over because whatever the phenomenon was, it stopped in my house and didn't recur again. Does your daughter remember this? Degley.

Yeah, she she said she doesn't remember much from her childhood. We, we divorced when she was, or separated when she was eight. And that, you know, that trauma, perhaps blocked some memories. Yeah, I don't remember much from my childhood either, to be honest with you. And I had a rough childhood, very rough childhood. And I do wonder sometimes if, like, my mind, you know, worked against itself and blocked stuff out just so I wouldn't remember certain things. But, uh, yeah, Tony, I think you're right. I think we are selective in our memory.

And we can't, you know, we, we know we can't handle a lot of negativity. So we're selective. Yeah. And I mean, I don't know. I just, it's one of those things where our mind, your mind is, you know, it's complex. And I just know that when I look around and I hear other people talking about, you know, things that happen in their childhood and stuff. I'm like, how do all these people remember all this stuff that happened years ago, you know? Because I remember certain things, highlights and things like that, but

I don't remember half the stuff that, you know, like people say, when we were kids, we used to go do this. And like, I don't remember that kind of stuff at all. Yeah. My memory is, I swear I remember circumcision. When I was like a few days old. Yeah. Wait, you actually do remember that?

Yeah. That's incredible. That I think that's an anomaly. I don't think that's a norm. Like I, that's crazy. You actually remember that? Wow. I do. Yeah, I remember, oh, I remember many, many experiences. And I, I, it's almost as if, well, it is. I, at the time, I thought, this is important. I'm going to remember this. I sort of program myself. to drop down a memory marker. Wow, that's fascinating. That's really fascinating. Well, why don't you talk to us about this other experience you had? Now, you're in a house, and I guess you were seeing like a decaying skull type of face, right?

Oh, boy. Yeah, that was... I had moved into a house that was going on 100 years old. and great old place, but the problems there began almost as soon as I moved in. And I woke up with the experience of as if I was being anally raped, this energetic sensation, terrible, horrible, jumped out of bed screaming, and it happened repeatedly. And I have the intuition that there had been someone killed in that house

that during some kind of homosexual activity gone awry, gone terribly wrong. And I was really pursuing it. meditation and prayer and talking to other people I knew that were it had a psychic ability and I had a dream and in a dream a statue we know how dreams are anything is possible the statute the statute said you're looking for Ed De Moor Ed De Moor well I knew where the statue was it was at the north gate of a very famous cemetery called Lakeview Cemetery where John D. Rockefeller and President James Garfield are buried. So I called the cemetery and now they had no Eddmore there. Well, I called every

cemetery I could think of that it was north of the position in the dream. And then one of my friends said, you know, sometimes in dreams, north, south, up, down, are reversed. And I thought, well, so maybe it was south. I called a cemetery. I didn't think there were any cemeteries south of there. And I said, by any chance, is there a cemetery? No, actually north of your position? So the, yes, I forget what I said earlier about south.

In the dream, I thought it was facing south, but now I'm thinking, could it be north? And the cemetery director said, yes, there is a small cemetery called the East Cleveland cemetery. We just have taken over. And we've cleaned it up. There have been no burials there since the 50s, but yes, we have that cemetery under our control now.

And I said, do you have the death records? Yeah. And I said, could you look up, is there an Edomor buried in that cemetery? And he said, yes. Yes, here he is. So I checked with the historical society and found that he was a single man who was buried in 1945. And his only survivors were his parents. Doesn't mean that he was homosexual, of course, but it fits.

it's the profile. I mean, first of all, the, the precise name. And I found where he was buried. So I, in that case, I think somehow Ed DeMore

wanted someone to recognize his soul's plight. And when I did that, the attack stopped. But the house continued to have these very, very attacks by disembodied entities. I was estranged from my girlfriend. I was sleeping in my music studio on the third floor. And I woke up with a full body attack.

I had this, like I talked about sensing, a disembodied entity by kind of a tingling like a chills almost like chills but this is something that's not in your body's energetic experience you're feeling it as an intrusion and in this case I could feel it head to toe and there was this entity was pressing into my body, wanting to take over my body in totality. Much like Jeannie's husband

had, with my permission, there was nothing negative, I watched him move in temporarily. In this case, it was an entity forcing and wanting to take me over. and I could see his face, and it was this horrible decaying skull.

I just ghastly. Well, again, I pressed it out. I prayed. I always, always with prayer, always asking for divine help, the sheaching the divine for assistance. And whatever one's spiritual orientation is, I think if we can connect to that higher, to God, in whatever form we understand God. I'm Christian, so I would pray to Jesus. And I would ask, I would pray the Lord's prayer and always, in these cases.

So I'd fight it off. well, I learned that there's a phenomenon called a walk-on. And a walk-on is where someone's body is taken over by another entity, and their personality, their soul, is forced out. And this happens often when people are drinking, or, I mean, are drunk, or even in the zone of shopping. I've heard that souls that want to do this hang around malls and bars, places where people are not conscious of their consciousness, if that makes sense.

They're not paying attention to who they are. They're externally focused. or depressed their own consciousness by drinking or drugging. So this happened several times, and eventually that woman moved out and I fell in love with my future wife and she moved into the house with me. And she's clairvoyant.

So she's able to see disembodied entities. I only sense them. She sees them. Well, we began to have... She'd wake up screaming. I'd feel this terrible energy. And I'd go to...

In the soul battle with it and force it away. And she said that she was seeing a man's form leaning over her arms outstretched wearing old-fashioned prison stripes and the face was

a decaying skull just like I had seen the only time I had never seen any of these disembodied entities that I would be doing battle with. So that happened repeatedly, and she also saw other disembodied entity. She saw a skeleton and benign beings like a prairie woman with her children. But these attacks continued.

And the matter of what we did, we couldn't end it. So we decided we would use a Native American technique called smudging. And cedar and sweet grass, different grasses are wound into braids and then like a, or maybe two inches across in a stick. And you light them and the smoke goes up. and you take a feather fan and fan it in every corner of every room in your house, even your closets.

And you can buy these even online if you look for smudge, SMUD-G-E smudging materials. And so we were, we smudged the house and as she was doing the smudging, I'm at this point totally blind. so I couldn't see to help with that. But I would be praying. And in this case, I prayed.

I said, Jesus, send your strong angels to gather up these souls. We're not angry with them. We just are, we want them to be where they belong in the light and the world of spirit. and we want them to stop attacking us. So I prayed that prayer. We went through our entire house. And a couple nights later, we woke up, and we have this signal that if she is seeing something,

she'll tap me. Or if I'm feeling something, I'll tap her. So our consciousness is joined in that moment. and we can use her clairvoyant ability to see what's going on. And I can use my abilities to battle off whatever is negative. Well, she woke up and she was making a sound. It was like, ah, not fear, but awe. and it's in the Bible it's written in the angel of the Lord appeared under them and they were sore afraid

and this was that not not fear but just awe of the and the word awesome is so overused but awe in the sense of being in the presence of something that is so powerful that you are you realize with great humility how small you are well she was making that sound

and I was beginning to say the Lord's prayer but I could barely get the words out it was the energy in the room was so powerful and what she saw were two figures. This was an old house with nine and a half with ceilings.

And these beings were as tall as the room. They were in shimmering robes, androgynous, neither male nor female. And looking at us with, she said, with great love and compassion. So what happened? I asked for Jesus to send his strong angels to take these souls back to where they belong. And these angels appeared to us.

And we were so fundersruck by the experience. It was so humbling and inspiring and so reveling. So great. I had an experience when I was a young man that I used to, if I was in the experience, if you're experiencing

a ghost, I lived in a housework. Three o'clock in the morning. On the dot, I'd wake up to go to the bathroom. In the hallway, I'd feel this entity. And I was so excited and thought, look at me, I can communicate with ghosts.

And I would open myself. what do you want, who are you? And another wise friend said, don't do that. You don't want to encourage ghosts. They don't belong here. They're stuck. And by encouraging them, you're adding to their energy and prolonging their time of being in the wrong place.

When we die, our energy, our energy, our soul, our soul is given the opportunity to travel up a tunnel of light into the world of spirit. And if we choose not to, and that is a choice one can make, we are on this plane. And my understanding is that we get a couple of opportunities, and then we don't, and then we're just stuck here. So whenever any of these experiences happened where I knew I was in the presence of a disembodied entity, I would pray the Lord's prayer and ask for protection.

because I never, it did occur to me that what I was experiencing could be a blessing, a good thing, because I was just programmed to ask for protection and ask the energy to move along. So here are these angels and I was unable to, if I had known, that I was in the presence of angelic beings. I think I would have opened myself fully rather than praying. But prayer is probably always a good thing. Anyway, that's how that ended. Although a couple weeks later, and Tony, I'm telling you the truth.

and I can't tell you why these things have happened but I know they did happen but I again we awoke and again my wife was in in a state of awe and Jesus

appeared to us and wasn't looking at us, but just in our direction. Again, my wife, La Christie said that his look was of love, of course, greatest love and compassion. And not looking directly at us because we couldn't have taken the wattage. It was, as it was so great.

an energy that I was trying to pray. The words were just, my body, my energy was in this current that made speech impossible. So that ended any negativity in that house. It was a beautiful place to live after that. And we moved from there. I was taking care of my younger brother who had a severe cognitive disability. I had gotten him out of a state institution and established a supportive living home for him. And when he died in 2014, we moved high into the Rockies where my wife always wanted to live.

and do we do we have time for another story yeah go ahead go ahead uh this this is we were we were in this uh a frame and uh my wife saw this guy walked through our bedroom wearing dirty long jobs and he he kept appearing and then he was bending over her with a cloth toward her face and she woke up screaming thinking he was trying to suffocate her. Well, after a while, we decided we needed some help with this.

So we have a friend who's a very powerful medium. And we went to her and the way she works is you send her three questions and she prays and meditates and gets her spirit guide. involved and then you call her and she engages with the spirit world and tells you what's going on and we've had we've talked to my brother after his death very powerful if you if you come upon a medium that that really knows their stuff

it can be very comforting well she said that we were interacting with a guy named Clem, who had been a gold miner on that land, and he was killed for his mule and his cookstove, and he had been jilted in love. And because of that, what it came time when he died he was murdered, he didn't leave because he was, his emotions were so tied to this, this plane of existence. So numerous opportunities came. He didn't leave. He didn't leave. And finally, he was stuck here. So she sent her, her spirit guides got involved. And lo and behold, his mother was still on the other side and had not reincarnated. And his mother came. He had a reunion with her and off they went into the world of spirit and that ended that and we then found that there

was a mine on our land that in the 1870s individual miners would dig what they call glory holes 10 feet across and they go 10 feet down and this mine had gone three feet down and then a side shaft was beginning to be dug where probably he had discovered some gold or the people that killed him had and then abandoned. So that's a story of Clem. The other thing that happened in that house was we were given a grandfather clock. We saw this ad three grandfather clock. I'd always wanted one. So we picked this thing up and boy, the guy couldn't wait to get rid of it.

And we had had about 24 hours and I'm just going to sleep. And I get the sensation getting punched in the face, I startled awake. What was that? What's going on? Well, this happened repeatedly. And my wife could see this about a three foot tall being that was, like a cloaked being. She couldn't see his face

like wearing a hooded cloak. And then in my music studio, things would fly off the shelves, a box of harmonicas, a drum fell over of its own accord. So we again contacted our friend. And she said that this gets into some wild stuff

as if everything else hasn't been wild. But she said that I saw that there was a being a monk who was this little guy in the cloak had kind of captured. And I grabbed the little parasite and the other soul was able to escape and be taken into heaven. by other by angelic beings. And she described this guy just the way my wife had seen him and it. And she said that it was a parasitic being that didn't belong on this plane that had captured, attached itself to this monk who, for some, reason it was attached to the grandfather clock the monk had been attached to a being another person

rather and when the person died the grandfather clock was there and because it had belonged to the person the monk stayed connected to the grandfather clock and this with this parasitic being not allowing it to move on. So by my grabbing the parasitic being in my astral body, I allowed this monk to move on. And twice during this episode, I woke up thinking, I'm at the bathroom door. Why am I at the bathroom door?

And my wife woke up and saw me in bed and saw my astral body at the bathroom door. Those things happened a couple times. So our friend said that that little being that didn't belong here, her her spirit guides were able to grab and send it back to the plane of existence where it belonged so i'll tell you tony i i don't know why i've had all these experiences i don't i don't i don't i think i'm anything special i'm not i'm just a a guy but i've had a a spiritual life I've always had a connection to God, prayer, meditation. And I think maybe that has given me, opened me in a way

about all these experiences to happen to me. But I can't do anything at will. All I do is try to keep clear. and keep a negativity out of my heart. Forgiveness is, I think, the hardest spiritual work to not hold grudges or negativity. You certainly had a life of, you know, experiences on the spiritual level, whether you want to say it's paranormal, spiritual, supernatural. Has this, you know, process that you went through your entire life, I'm assuming, you know, it's developed you spiritually to a certain, to a certain point at least. Do you feel like going through some of these experiences that you've had,

do you think all these experiences have a positive outlook, you know, at the end of the day because you gain something from it or were some of the stuff, you still don't really understand why you went through it? Like you said about the one entity that it seemed like they were, you know, trying to rape you. That sounds like an incubus to me, you know? And so, what is that? What's an incubus? Well, there's incubus and succubes. And they're both entities that, demonic entities that try to have sex with people while they sleep. And the succubes, the succubes. Yeah, succubes tend to go after men and incubus tend to go after women. And I've just, I don't know, I don't know what you had.

I mean, because it was trying to penetrate you? So was it an incubus or was it a succubis? I don't know. Or maybe it was this. Ed DeMore that was just trying to get a point across to you, you know what I mean? You know, I've heard those words, incubus and succubus. I didn't. I've never heard there, them defined. You have so much knowledge from your interviews and your study. That's very helpful, very interesting. Yeah, I mean, you know, if you get a chance to look into it and stuff, I mean, maybe, you know, some of the information you gain would help you maybe understand.

your experiences a little bit more than you already do. You know, I, absolutely. The word demonic is, I don't, the way I look at these experiences is I've dealt with entities that were stuck on this plane and wanted to get, their interests were now in the case of Clem in the gold mine he was a good guy just oh and he did he did say that through this medium that he wasn't trying to suffocate my wife he was just wanting to show her that in case of fire put a wet cloth over your face to breathe so it was more looking out for than than trying yeah yeah

Exactly. And he, you know, that was, his energy was good. In the other, in the case of that anal rape, I, I, I, I, I of course, tied it to Ed De Moor because I was told you're looking for Ed De Moor. And once I tracked down Ed and his story, as much as I could learn of it, it stopped. So my, my assumption was it Yeah, that's a good assumption. That's a fun assumption. It's just, it's interesting stuff, man. Now, before we get out of here, I wanted to bring up something that you had said in the emails that you do have a memoir, right? Yes. Now, you self-published that? I did.

Yeah, I've had a publishing company, a book publishing and a CD, a music publishing company, two different licenses since the 80s. I was songwriter and I developed materials for schools on anti-bullying acceptance of kids with disabilities and anyone who's devalued.

So I self-published it. It's called Grit, a family memoir on adversity and triumph. And it's on Amazon. if you look at for Jeff Moyer, J-E-F-F-M-O-Y-E-R, grit is the title, but it's also on my website.

And like any self-published author, you make more money if people buy it through you rather than for Amazon. But, yeah, thanks for mentioning that. What's your website called? Jeff Moyer.com. Wow, you're lucky you got Jeff Moyer.com. That's such a, you know,

Moyer's a big and popular last name, and Jeff's a popular first name. I'm surprised that nobody else had Jeff Moyer.com already taken. Well, I got that 23 years ago. Oh, okay. So you're the first person. You're the first person on the Internet back then, right? Well, there are a lot of other Jeff Moyers, and I do, yeah, I'm glad I have that.

But I would also say that I have music that is free that is, If you just go to YouTube and look at Jeff Moyer. And there's a, for anyone that's grieving or who's facing death, I have an album called Peace Sweet Peace that I developed for hospice. And that's available free of charge. You can just download it by asking for it. Jeff Moyer, Peace, Sweet Peace. And then I have an award-winning children's album.

called Maxwell, the dancing dog. And my documentary on state institutions, like the prison where my brother was, lest we forget. And another album that's for families called We're People First. So, oh, and love songs, don't forget love songs for any of you lovers out there. So I've, you know, it's so hard to make a,

living as a musician or an author that I decided my intention was to get this music into the world, especially the music for hospice and people who are grieving. So I've gone the route of just putting it up so people can access it for free. Well, that's really cool, man. I appreciate you sharing that with the audience and letting them know where to find your stuff. And Jeff, I appreciate you coming on the show and sharing your experiences, man. You've been through a lot of stuff in life, and it's nice to hear people share those experiences. Tony, what you're doing is such a service to the world, and the way your openness and clarity and goodwill just shines through. And you're really a champion.

Thank you very much for what you do. Absolutely. It's my pleasure. and thank you for coming on and being part of the show. Without people like you, you know, being open to sharing your stuff, the show wouldn't exist. So I appreciate it. You're welcome, Tony. Thank you.

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When I was five years old, I have a very clear memory of being a bit of. by, I suppose they were little grays. And they told me telepathically not to be afraid. They were going to teach me to fly. And we levitated. I levitated down the stairs outside. And we, they levitated me down the neighborhood onto a little bluff. Then they said, now we're going to fly up.

And I don't remember anything after that. in that experience. But I had other experiences with particularly screen memories that when you're abducted, you're given a memory that often of a place that is not in your experience, that is in the alien's experience to block the memory of what happened to you. and boy how I mean one was driving through the two-lane truck road in Texas in the middle of the night and all of a sudden I'm going up a very steep road with highly banked sides and it gets to the it raises up and then the sides of the road level out and I'm looking at a city like something from a thousand years from now, just the most staggeringly advanced and strange city.

And in those years, I had low vision, but with binoculars I could see normally. And I had binoculars. And I saw a flying saucer hanging about the city. I studied it. It was purple with yellow lights around the edge. There was a space needle, not like the Seattle, but this thing was, there'd be 300 stories tall with a huge platform. I thought it's impossible. That is so thin that the needle went up and the platform was so vast.

But I was recording all of this onto a little tape recorder and I got to the, we turned a corner in the, city it was kind of into the outskirts now. I dropped the microphone and I fished it out of the picked it up off the floor of the car and looked out the window and we were back in a two-lane truck road. I mean, just like that, it disappeared. So, and the final experience

was I was teaching. It's Ken State, the summer course for teachers on my materials. And I always stayed in the same little motel. And I woke up in the middle of the night. And Tony, I was terrified. I couldn't move. I was under a bank of extremely harsh lights,

like maybe 15 by 30 feet in panels in squares. And I had the sense that the, The lights themselves were evaluating me in some way. Like I said, I couldn't move. I tried to scream. My voice didn't work. And in the state of terror, and I again went unconscious and woke up some hours later back in the room. and you know you hear so many things about the different aliens and their intentions

and the ones that dealt with me meant me no good although you know they would not you never would put someone in a state of terror and I think that there's a very good a website called Allies of Humanity and that's a place where people can read about what's going on and

what's coming and I think we're heading into a time when we're really going to stand together as a human race and say this is our planet and you have no business being here and we are united against you. So I recommend that.

I don't, I suspect that somehow the alien and my ability to perceive as embodied entities, somehow they work together. I have no idea how. But, yeah, that's been a part of my life too. So you do think, because I was going to ask you this, so you do think there is some kind of correlation between these abductions and the spiritual side of your life and what you experience. Yes. Yeah. I, when I was a kid, a young man, I was interested in the tricks, telepathy, astral projection, telekinesis. and I wanted to learn all of how to do all those things

I thought that was spirituality and what I learned man I I wound up getting imprisoned by a woman that I think was she definitely was connected to the aliens if she wasn't alien herself

in part you were imprisoned by it 30 years well yeah I was I was a I went into her company and she eventually had me so terrified of her. She claimed that she could, well, she ordered the death of Eisenhower, Edward Dirksen, by God, later they died, and other terrible things of that sort. either she could see the future or she had some dark ability to connect it into causality. I don't know.

But when I left her after two and a half years of torture and spiritual torture, it was a still small voice within. It was my little tiny inner voice. that said, this is not right. And you must leave. And although I suspected she might be able to kill me, I did believe she could kill me. I knew that that's still small voice within my connection to God was more important, more powerful, and would protect me.

So out of that experience, I learned that, boy, the tricks are not important. What's important is spirituality. It's different than paranormal abilities. But what's important is our connection to God, to right and wrong, to justice, and our commitment to living a life that's in accordance with those rules. that's all it's important. No, you first you've got the kingdom of God.

I'm giving you an interview and a half, I apologize. No, it's fine. It's fine. You should have led with this, man. So, this lady that you worked for, you worked like as an employment status with her, but... No. No. No, I wasn't worked...

No, I was a... You know, I had a young man of a backpacking guitar. I'd gone to California in 1968, seeking the paranormal, seeking to be able to do telepathy and all that. And I've been studying that.

I've been studying how to open my mind and send thoughts and receive thoughts. So she was a, she said, I'm a, I have a place where young people live and it's right in the ocean in Southern California

once you come and check it out. So I did. I was at that point living in the commune in the Santa Cruz mouse and she was working for the owner of the commune. It sounds like a cult. I'm sorry?

It sounds like a cult. Is that what it was? I guess you could say it was a cult. She was she had true paranormal power I don't know

how to explain it she was also a criminal and a con artist and a violent person she had but she also could heal and had a great knowledge of

spiritual and religious practices and so I was initially hooked in by her, what she knew. But, and I did work for her.

I mean, we were cutting firewood to make a living. But, and there were a few other people that came in and out. When I left her,

there were a total of 11 people in the house. And so I, when I left, but, you know, she had a

lot of people that had bought into her view of the world. Jeff, what you're telling me, I swear, I don't know if I talk to somebody on the show, if it's an interview that hasn't been aired yet. I don't, I don't remember, but I've heard this story before. Wow. I kid you not. I feel like I've talked to somebody who had a very similar experience to yours. Oh, wow. I feel like, honestly, I feel like, honestly, I feel like, either I talked to somebody or heard it in an interview somewhere, a very similar story. And it makes me feel like either I or somebody else talked to somebody that was involved in the same person as you, because you said there was a camp of people, right?

Yes, not a great number, but there were probably a couple dozen people in the two and a half years that I had been there, that I knew of before me or during my time. That's incredible. You know, I, it could be, I think I might have talked about this when I was on Sasquatch Chronicles. Maybe you, maybe, did you have that interview? I probably heard there then. That's probably where I heard it.

But it also, that experience also taught me never to doubt when someone says something that I've not had that experience, never to doubt it because the words, world is I saw things and experienced things that were so un not just unusual but hard it's hard to explain hard to wrap my head around just about the time I would think okay I've got her nailed she's a con that's all she something would happen and she would look at me and say, now do you believe me? And I would, I would just be dumbstruck. But I was initially attracted by her healing ability. And then I was controlled by my fear because she was so, she could be so terrible and was so violent. Do you remember what episode number that was on Sassau?

Squash Chronicles? 535, maybe. Okay. Well, I knew I heard you, heard that somewhere. And it actually answers another thing that I was thinking, because I, when you were talking to me in the beginning of the interview, I was thinking of myself, his voice sounds so familiar. I feel like I've heard this guy's voice somewhere.

And now it's all coming back to me because you're the blind musician that I was. Yeah, that's right. That's right. me and Wes were talking about you after he interviewed you. He called me and he was like, I just interviewed this guy and, you know, because it's impressive. I wanted to ask you, one, are you able to be a musician right now as a blind man or is that something that came later in life or were you blind most of your life? I started to go blind when I was five just at the time of the abduction. And I think that I think that I was blinded by that that

experience. I think it was like an experiment. But just of that same summer, my brother was born, as I said, with a severe cognitive disability. And his needs were so great and the crisis and the family so profound that

my little problem of going blind just kind of as was off at the side. But I a piano teacher was told my parents were told I was

pretending I couldn't see so they told the piano teacher I was pretending I couldn't see and when he discovered that I really couldn't see refused to teach me any further but that

that somehow subliminally taught me that I could if I could hear I could play if I could puzzle something out by ear. So I've taught myself to play 20 instruments by year. And I've been a songwriter since I was 16 and 21 albums. They've made my living as a musician for 15 years or so.

Wow, that's impressive, man. Well, I'll tell you what, I'm going to do is I'm going to add this as like, probably when I produce this show, what I'll probably wind up doing is, let's see here, I'll probably do the whole interview that we first did. And then I'll, because sometimes I like adding extra bonus material.

I'll probably add this on the very end of the show, like after the after music. Like, because, because I like giving extra stuff sometimes as a bonus content. But sometimes I make it like, the song ends and then right away it kicks in. and sometimes I let it just dead air play for like a minute or two minutes, and then all of a sudden this kicks in.

And it's for... That is so... I'll tell you, I've heard you say you do that, and I think, well, I don't... I never just let it roll and listen into air, but that's... Yeah. I'm going to do it from now on, man. Yeah, and it's not all the time. I mean, but it's just, it's just like that little reward for people who let the whole episode

to the very last second play, you know, every once in a while I put some extra stuff on the very end. And I mean, I honestly, like I put out, you know, well over 100 shows. And I probably put it, I probably did that on like five episodes. But they're scattered throughout. They're like little, little ghost episodes, you know. Let me, let me ask you this. What did Wes think of me?

Oh, well, I mean, he doesn't call me about people he doesn't like. Let's put it that way. Oh, good. Oh, good. Yeah, I mean, we, we, if he's impressed by somebody, that's when he, you know, he calls to talk to me about it and stuff like that. I mean, I don't remember what his comments were. I just remember him telling me about the upcoming show that he just, you know, recorded. And then I remember tuning in. And he, he kind of referenced it on a show I did a couple weeks ago. We did a censored show. And it was me, West, Dark Waters, and Timothy Renner. And he kind of referenced how he listens to my show, but I don't really listen to his show. And I do listen to his show, but I don't listen to it as fast as he would like me to listen to it. Because half the time, I already know it's on the show before it even airs, you know? And so I guess I'm a bad friend like that. But no, I remember when he told me about the interview he had just done with you, I remember tuning in and listening to your story.

And I was fascinated by it. I was just listening to it while I was driving in my truck. and that's where when you started talking about it's like I've heard this somewhere where did I hear this? I was thinking maybe I heard either I talked to somebody or somebody else talked to somebody that you may have ran into

with the same lady and then when you said Sasquatch Chronicles that all connected to my head is like that's where I know him from okay well Tony this exchange really means world shouldn't because I I thought after that interview

that I had just gone too far and that I had introduced too many things that were so far out there that it, Wes was kind of shaking his head. So I'm glad to hear that.

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